1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:30,120 M m m m. Hello and welcome to the Gay Mess Decides podcast. 2 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,719 Will we decide everything in the world of gaming so you do not have to 3 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:39,520 think for yourself. I am your host today, Mike Vinatti, and with 4 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:47,880 me is Sean Turbo Sean McDowell. Today we're talking about PlayStation five sales milestones, 5 00:00:48,439 --> 00:00:53,359 some new Zodakay just like Daddy Jeff promised, kind of, and we 6 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,600 are making a list of the best fighting games ever. But before we get 7 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,799 started, I just want you guys, though, you can find more from 8 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:06,359 Sean and me and Jeff at our discard. Give us a good rating wherever 9 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,120 you're listening. You hit that light butt on YouTube, please send in a 10 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:14,120 super chat. 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I had Bivlon day today. 20 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:53,040 A bunch of personal stuff happened, Like, yeah, you ever go 21 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,680 water heater changed out? Because, let me tell you, that is a 22 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,519 bit of an ordeal. How Yeah. If nothing else, just going without 23 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,159 hot water for a while really sucks. But I would be misserable. I'm 24 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,719 just talking on the dump trick today about how much of love my showers, 25 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,280 and mostly it's because, like you know, it's all warm, it's like 26 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:14,080 a little sauna in there. It's relax It's like my big I need to 27 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,719 relax moves. I'm just gonna actually take a hot shower. Yeah, I'm 28 00:02:16,759 --> 00:02:20,639 with you there. I'll only take in a nice hot shower at the end 29 00:02:20,719 --> 00:02:23,680 of the day is usually when I do it. Yeah, No, I 30 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:25,960 understand. It's just it's been hot here in general today, though pretty very 31 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,039 muggy outside right now. I think it's one of our rare nineties degree days 32 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,919 we've had here so far. So I've been trying to go on walks instead 33 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,080 of napping after work like I sometimes tend to do. So if I just 34 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:42,360 kind of forced myself to walk, that'll kind of wake me up. Anyways, 35 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,360 it's a little rough today with all that sun. I could probably use 36 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,599 a little bit of sun. Anyways, I'm so gosh darn pale for an 37 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,599 Italian. Yeah, but we got plenty of news to talk about today, 38 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:01,479 starting with Sony has announced that Placeation five cells have reached forty million yea in 39 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,719 about three years now, actually about too much slower than places Should four hit 40 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:10,240 that mark. But with the production problems that they have places Should five, 41 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,360 with the pandemic and everything, I think the still tracks very well for them. 42 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:21,800 I think there's no reason to be anything but optimistic about how PlayStation five 43 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:25,199 is doing. Yeah, that's that feels crazy to me that they would that 44 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,199 they're only slightly behind the PS four, which was already a huge success, 45 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,680 and then they had like basically like two years there if you just couldn't get 46 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,000 a PS five trendy of where it was. But me and Jeff I've talked 47 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,840 about this before of like how easy is it for you to walk into a 48 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:46,400 store and get a PS five? Yes, that for the longest time, 49 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:51,199 do you could not get one near me? And now they're in stock everywhere 50 00:03:51,199 --> 00:03:53,240 and just walking too, even Walmart and grab one. But considering that they 51 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,639 had those issues for so long, Yeah, these numbers are like really good. 52 00:03:57,719 --> 00:04:00,919 So it almost honestly a little surprising because you guys have talked about on 53 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,199 the show recently, like, uh, the PS five being a little underwhelming 54 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:11,800 both of the consoles before anyone gets both the consoles, not in every way, 55 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,759 but maybe just in terms of some of the power output work. Yeah, 56 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:17,240 and in terms of like exclusives and stuff because games are getting you know, 57 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,360 they take longer and make so like while you playing any new PS five, 58 00:04:20,439 --> 00:04:23,839 Yeah, a lot of third party stuff that maybe you could play elsewhere. 59 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,040 So it's yeah, but the casual audience still sticks their consoles and they 60 00:04:28,079 --> 00:04:30,399 seem to be sticking in PS five for sure, right, And of course 61 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:36,079 this means that that here also now forty million copies of Astro's play Room out 62 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,839 in the worlds PS five game attach rate, well, they were like there 63 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:46,839 was like a list of the most popular PlayStation five games, like as voted 64 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,839 on by players attached the Sony's Little Block post about this that was like thirty 65 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,560 games, so that doesn't tell you much. But Astro was on there. 66 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,519 I think the Teachings Revenge was on there, along with some five Nights at 67 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:02,319 Freddie Game right, and like just every like first party PlayStation game was on 68 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:06,480 there. Of course that makes sense. Yeah, I do you know, 69 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:12,319 of course, whatever the Xbox series consoles are at, it's probably not forty 70 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,319 million. I do wonder where it is, and they don't say anymore. 71 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,839 I'd assume. I assume they're doing better than the one, which, you 72 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:23,240 know, the one picked up a little bit there towards the end. But 73 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:29,879 I mean we've said before you don't need an Xbox console anymore, and they're 74 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,160 okay with that. So the numbers are not going to be as strong as 75 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:36,519 the competition where you kind of only can play them on the console. I'm 76 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,040 so a little weirded out about their whole And this was like the language that 77 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:45,160 Phil Spencer was talking about on you know, the Giant Bomb at Night Couch 78 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:47,600 with Jeff. I was almost a little not weird out, maybe a little 79 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,439 weird about surprised, but kind of almost how nonchalantly he's like, yeah, 80 00:05:51,519 --> 00:05:56,800 the console market, Yeah, you know, we lost that one, you 81 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,839 know, so if we have to kind of looked at PC and other things. 82 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,879 I'm not saying that they're giving up on consoles, and of course he's 83 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,560 not really meaning that either, and yet it almost feels a little bit like, 84 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:11,399 yeah, I'm like, well, I guess my big fear here. 85 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:15,439 Maybe not fear is not the word, but it'll be interesting and maybe disastrous 86 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,800 if there is a places in five pro, which is looking more and more 87 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,519 likely all the time. There is a fresh bout of rumors over the last 88 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:26,720 week, and there isn't an equivalent from Xbox, right what an f xbook 89 00:06:26,759 --> 00:06:30,439 just says if you want to pro go get a PC or something, that's 90 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,319 gonna be weird. I guess it would. But at the same time, 91 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:40,639 they do have that scalability and the people who really want the power but are 92 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,000 also only buying consoles. That's like not a huge crossover, I feel, 93 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:49,000 at least anytime you anytime you know, data does get released on all that. 94 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Like basically it is like, you know the PC players who want the 95 00:06:53,959 --> 00:06:58,040 highest of high end, and then you know the tech enthusiasts in the casual 96 00:06:58,079 --> 00:07:00,600 market who are buying the super high enco So I think the series ACX is 97 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,519 still at a perfectly fine place for now. We'll see if the five Pro 98 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:09,079 does end up being a thing, we'll see how big of a gap that 99 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:12,879 is. Because maybe it's just like the PS four Pro was and it's just 100 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,839 a really good upscaler of existing PS five tech And so if that's the case, 101 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,680 well then I really need to rush on and get it. And then 102 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,160 you know, it doesn't look like there's a huge discrepancy between the consoles. 103 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,399 So but I guess, you know, just for me, if if you 104 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,800 have a PlayStation five Pro, if it is just doing things like running four 105 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:33,279 K games at a nice sixty fps, or we've been running like games in 106 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:36,720 like the not four K and in what's supposed to be the frame right road 107 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,920 mode at a steady sixty fps, and suddenly you get comparisons like from Digital 108 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,600 found You where here's you know, this game sixty fps on plays five Pro, 109 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,720 and here's the best Xbox console we have right now, and it's it's 110 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,199 really unsteady. Right now. This is a speculating on if there isn't some 111 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:58,279 kind of upgrade from Xbox, and they're very well could be. We're just 112 00:07:58,279 --> 00:08:01,680 not hearing those rumblings as much right now, and you kind of like take 113 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,839 that in with like, you know, just sort of this the emphasizing of 114 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:09,639 the console market we've been hearing from and you know, not to make it 115 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,720 too much PlayStation versus Xbox, but just to jump off something you were saying. 116 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,199 I think it's totally fine the way Phil did talk about and is positioning 117 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:22,759 everything, because I think they are just forward looking over at Microsoft, because 118 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:28,959 they're like, the consoles get so big as a whole, and so we 119 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,559 want a bigger market, we do have to start looking elsewhere. And I 120 00:08:31,639 --> 00:08:37,200 know some people see it as sort of getting out of consoles or not caring 121 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,039 as much about the decade console. But I think it's important to note that, 122 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:46,039 you know, looking looking at Xbox as an eco system seems to be 123 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,840 something that is going to be working for them in the long run, and 124 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:54,120 so I don't think it's necessarily gloom and doom on that front. I think 125 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:58,080 I think every company is doing their own thing right now. I think even 126 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,840 if there's varying levels of success and then your term, I think in the 127 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:03,759 long term, they're all they all had their place right now, all right. 128 00:09:03,799 --> 00:09:07,360 Next up, here. Nintendo has released the Legend of Zelda, Oracle 129 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:13,120 of Ages, and Oracle of Seasons on NFL. These are game Boy game 130 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,080 Boy Color games. We knew these were coming, but they did get dropped 131 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:22,159 somewhat suddenly yesterday. They're on there right now. Kind of the first thing 132 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:28,000 here is that so Jeff said, he said this on nintendogs a couple weeks 133 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,039 ago, he heard that something else was happening with Zelda first switch that was 134 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,799 not Tis of the Kingdom related. If somebody even asked on Tuesday, could 135 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,919 this just be Oracles of Ages of workal Seasons, and Jeff said maybe. 136 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,159 Literally, all I know is what I'm telling you, something Zoda related that's 137 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,559 not Tires of the Kingdom. And then literally the next day this did happen. 138 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:52,559 So you know, Jeff would would say the same thing if he was 139 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:56,399 here. This might just be all that person was alluding to. So that 140 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,679 to Jeff, this might be it. Everybody, So like, you know, 141 00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:05,799 don't get your hopes up for the wind Waker or Troilet Princess. And 142 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,679 he himself said on Twitter when someone asked him like about this after the news 143 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,159 broke, he was like, I literally said, I don't know, and 144 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,799 I mean, I don't know, so maybe this was just at so maybe 145 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:20,840 it's spotted. We don't know. Really here is actually at least and it 146 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:22,399 certainly does match up with like, you know, people telling him, Hey, 147 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,480 you know they told him by the end of the year. This is 148 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,879 a lot sooner than even that, So this might maybe this is all we're 149 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:33,000 getting zodaweise. Who knows, But either way, I really like these games. 150 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,000 I think that these are both a ton of fun. I think it's 151 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,679 really neat how they kind of combine into one super game. Right, look, 152 00:10:39,799 --> 00:10:43,679 eat your heart out, uh sega, these are good stuff. If 153 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,639 you are you are you more of an Ages guy or more of a Seasons 154 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,720 guy. I think I like Seasons a little bit more. I'm kind of 155 00:10:50,759 --> 00:10:52,759 interested to play them again. I mean when I played them, I play 156 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:56,240 him back to back, right, So it does almost kind of like I 157 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:01,120 think the season's gimmick is more interesting in distinct there are other Zoda games where 158 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,919 you kind of like change time and that's how the world changes, right. 159 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:11,399 The season thing is inherently more interesting to me, but it is almost kind 160 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:13,080 of a package deal to me. I just kind of think of it almost 161 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:18,000 as a whole. Yeah, I remember back in the day I played both 162 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,360 because I got n for cheap, like after they had been old for a 163 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:24,480 little bit, And I don't know why, I remember liking Ages more and 164 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:30,440 I haven't played them since. Is Ages the more puzzly one, and forget 165 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:33,399 about I'd know one's supposed to be more combat and one of those more puzzles. 166 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:37,600 But like people say that, I wouldn't like get so distracted by that. 167 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,480 I mean it's still the same, Like they still have the same amount 168 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,200 of dungeons and stuff. It's not like one's a Mooso game or something, 169 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:48,840 right, Still pretty similar. One might lean slightly more puzzly than the other 170 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:52,080 one, But if you weren't, if that wasn't drilled into people, people 171 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,159 may not even necessarily have picked up on that. There's the animal companions though, 172 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,519 that's for real. So they took a cue from Kirby with that, 173 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:01,919 so that's good. Yeah, Ages is supposed to be the puzzle focus one, 174 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:05,360 says the nick ge the combast focus one. Yeah, that's right, 175 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:09,080 because Seasons does have a lot of Zelda one bosses in it. I remember 176 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:13,559 that, and that's pretty neat. I think that's fun so yeah, I'm 177 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,759 excited to play these again at some point. There's a lot to play right 178 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:20,679 now. Still, it's a rough time to release two Zelda games. Yeah. 179 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,240 I see some people kind of despairing because maybe this means we are less 180 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:31,480 likely to get remakes of these games in that Leaks Awakening style, And I 181 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:33,679 think that might be right. I don't know if that was ever really on 182 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,200 the table though, I just don't know. I think I think this might 183 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,279 be a good time to say I did not care for that Links Awakening remake. 184 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,919 I surprised how many people because, like Jeff wasn't super crazy about it. 185 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,399 I liked it. I guess I don't find it super essential. I 186 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,120 could just play the original whenever I want. Yeah, it was weird because 187 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,519 it was well executed, I feel, but like the art style wasn't something 188 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,960 that I was into. The like very lego, like the classic toy. 189 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,720 I liked the art style. Fine, I guess that's all it kind of 190 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:09,559 comes down to. I mean, that's really it's basically it's different that and 191 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,639 the nice thing is being able to map more items to the buttons, because 192 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:16,440 that is annoying with these game Boy games. You have two slots, and 193 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,960 one of them is for your swords, so you can even swap that out, 194 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,840 so you're pushing pause and swapping items around a lot. You kind of 195 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,039 do get over it, though, but I think a lot of people overlooked 196 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:30,039 these games for a Zelda game. Anyways, at the time, they were 197 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,279 very late game Boy games. Game Boy Advance was basically on the horizon, 198 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:35,399 and like, you know, you look at them, and they did look 199 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,039 like Links Awakening, which at that point was almost an ancient game, right, 200 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:41,840 it was like eight years old or something, So you know, I 201 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:46,159 could see a lot of people maybe missed out on these. Um, if 202 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,480 you ask a lot of people what's the Zoo game you haven't played, they 203 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,240 could probably list these. They should go and play them. I think that 204 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,159 they are a lot of fun beef hammers making me laugh. It has color 205 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,519 in it, of course, Jef thinks the stress pick on someone who's not 206 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:01,919 here. Jeff's soul the remake thing, I almost I can kind of understand 207 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:05,799 where it's coming from. It baffles me that doesn't even like d X for 208 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,120 le so like, and he doesn't even like just adding color to it. 209 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,919 I get what he's trying to say. He's trying to say he doesn't like 210 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,639 the garishness of game Boy games that got convert to game Boy Color games. 211 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,080 I get it, I don't agree with it. I will say, how 212 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,600 much angle looks fine, It's it's a big color. What do you want? 213 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:28,200 You know? Like, I don't know. I like DX a lot. 214 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:33,679 So do you like the Oracle games more than the Minish Cap because I'm 215 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:37,240 so probably mostly like I probably put mish Cap even though I think the games. 216 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:41,759 These games break a better pace, they don't have some of that slow 217 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,840 down and talk to you constantly problems that especially the beginning of Minish Cap. 218 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,440 Hass these are like the related because this is also the Capcom people making these, 219 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:56,080 right. I said before that I'm not a big Zelda guy in general, 220 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,960 but really that's like I'm not big three D Zelda guy. I do 221 00:15:00,159 --> 00:15:03,600 really like two D Zelda, and I actually think like the Oracle games a 222 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:09,120 little bit more because they do feel like that old school two D Zelda of 223 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,039 um, you know, Link to the Past and Links Awakening and seven Storre 224 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:18,960 of that lineage, whereas Menis Cap felt like too much of a departure from 225 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 me. And that's why that's why I didn't like some of them. I 226 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,559 guess definitely was sort of taking more in from the three d Zelda games than 227 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,600 definitely even than this was right right. There's probably a little ak arena in 228 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:33,720 here, obviously of ages, but still mostly kind of feels like descended from 229 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,759 the original Zelda, right all right. Next up here this is from my 230 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:43,600 GM, but Barter's Gate three developer Larry and will definitely make a Divinity Original 231 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:46,759 sinse sequel, but not before taking a break. Larry and Boss Swin of 232 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:52,320 vin Vinky Vincy. I'm sorry, I'm not sure, said IgM. Divinity 233 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,360 Original Sin is our own university built, so we're definitely gonna get back there 234 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,639 at some point. We'll get back there at some point, but we're going 235 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:02,399 to finish this one three now then take a break because we will need to 236 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:06,960 refresh ourselves creative. We also, you're seeing FOURGET developers putting their four hundred 237 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,159 developers, putting their heart and souls into this, getting the best of them 238 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,879 and they're craft in this game. So I can tell you it's quite a 239 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:18,240 thing. Um, I think this is good to hear, maybe not shocking, 240 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:22,799 but DAVIDI Original Sin two, I know is a very well received game. 241 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,000 I played a good bit of it. I really liked it, and 242 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,039 never quite got around to getting as far as as I like because something always 243 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,919 comes along and distracts me. And they did have build a pretty interesting world 244 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,320 of their own. I think it makes a ton of sense for them to 245 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:38,279 jump at the opportunity to make a bolder Skate three. I think that's going 246 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,960 to reach an even bigger audience than DAVIDI Original Sin did. But it is 247 00:16:42,039 --> 00:16:45,600 nice to hear them basically saying like, yeah, we're going to do Original 248 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:49,559 Sin three next. Yeah, that's nice. I'm I'm not a huge fan 249 00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:55,440 of like the more D and D style RPGs or so weird me. These 250 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,200 are called what aarpgs? Right? An RPG? This is CRPG? Does 251 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,119 it cr you see the RPGs have done. We've had this discussion on all 252 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,640 the episodes, but it's these prefixes are dumb. Anyways. Yeah, the 253 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,079 but aarpds and CRPGs, the more you know, pointing click with a mouse 254 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,079 style isometric RPG. I've never been my thing really either of them, and 255 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,240 so I don't know how much say of this other than I know that people 256 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:26,119 do like Divinity, so I'm happy to see that they're doing more of it, 257 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,359 because so it's always good when devs get to do stuff with their with 258 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,960 their own ips rather than just relying on pre existing ones. Right, yeah, 259 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,839 no exactly, And they did a good job building that up. Like 260 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,039 Divinity Original Sin one seemed like this kind of surprise hit, and then their 261 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,240 Vinity Original Sin two, there was like a big revival of these style of 262 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:48,720 RPGs, and I think Divinity Original Sin two is still kind of brought up 263 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,319 as the best of them, with you know, your Pillars of Eternity and 264 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,799 you know what, like all that stuff that was happening around then. I 265 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,400 hear that one kind of brought up the most. So I think Divinity Original 266 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,680 Sin two is my most started game. I started constantly starting a start on 267 00:18:03,759 --> 00:18:07,119 my Steam deck. I started, came out, I started the console version, 268 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,559 and always like it and then always just kind of fall off. Unfortunately. 269 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:14,319 My problem is it's kind of my problem with all of those games, 270 00:18:14,319 --> 00:18:17,079 even the original Boarders game. I like the role playing quite a bit, 271 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,119 actually, like walking around and like having my talking modifiers. I find the 272 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:27,039 combat in them a little impenetrable sometimes. All right, next appear from VGC. 273 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:32,119 Pickman four's first week sales in Japan were more than those of the first 274 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,799 three Pickman games combined, but Mitsuo published the physical game sales chart for the 275 00:18:36,839 --> 00:18:40,319 week ending July twenty third, and Pickman four is that number one, with 276 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,880 about a little over four hundred thousand copies sold. By comparison based on archive 277 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,160 for MIT two information, the first Pickman was a little bit over a one 278 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,440 hundred thousand, and its first week Pickman two a little bit over one hundred 279 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,400 and sixty thousand, Pickman three a bit over ninety thousand, just the original 280 00:18:55,799 --> 00:18:59,279 Pickman three. And it's interesting here is that this only counts physical sales, 281 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,880 right, so Pickman four, um like probably actually did a good bit better 282 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,720 than four hundred thousand. I'm actually not sure Japan how much that split is 283 00:19:08,759 --> 00:19:12,559 between digital and physical over there. So this is both great news and also 284 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:18,200 not too surprising. There are so many more people that have switches at this 285 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:22,599 point than who ever had action. Yeah, yeah, big big switch. 286 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,839 This is kind of like the switch effects. I wanted METROI to get and 287 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,759 got a little bit of that, but it seems like Pickman four is getting 288 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:33,880 it in a pretty big way. I mean, I see some people say, 289 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,200 like, oh wow, Pickman four, you know, is doing better 290 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,400 than Base sixteen, but again a lot more switches than PlayStation five Japan, 291 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,599 definitely right. But this is good news. I see people seem really happy 292 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,039 with Pickman four. I hear mostly good things. I hear, like from 293 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:53,599 the grape mind, some people think it's a little easy. I don't even 294 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,200 know how much of that is the complaint. I am generally just seeing people 295 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:03,160 really enjoying it. That's good. I'm not a Pickman guy, as me 296 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:10,839 and aj established on Nintendogs, neither of us big Pickman fans. But Pickman 297 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,400 is an interesting one because it is like, you know, the like the 298 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:17,680 more cute ce art style and everything they do try to go for that more 299 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:26,279 family friendly approach for a for for rt s, I guess game kind of 300 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,559 ish. So it's kind of it's kind of impressive that they managed to like 301 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:33,960 mainline, mainstream, mainstream that at all. So I'm you know, I'm 302 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,039 happy for the Pickman purves. You know what, Jeff Broad you got yours 303 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,279 at a boy? Yeah, MP, there it is. It's the Pickman. 304 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:44,880 People are almost like Jeff's like shocked. People actually do care about Pickman 305 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,240 because sometimes it could feel so much like he's the only one who likes it, 306 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,799 But there are a lot of people who do or who at least show 307 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,480 up for it. I have like Nintendo assid Nintendo fans do at the very 308 00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:57,480 least, right, Yeah, exactly, And I've not been a Pickman person, 309 00:20:57,519 --> 00:21:02,759 but I become Pickman cure. I played the demo for four and did 310 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,240 enjoy it. I do want to play more of it. I'm surprised how 311 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:10,039 kind of relatively long this one seems. Uh, you know, like the 312 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,799 original Pickmen people could supposedly beat in like nine hours. I think this one 313 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,519 is probably closer to thirty hours. It sounds like, so it's a media 314 00:21:17,599 --> 00:21:22,920 game for Pickman. Next up your CD project read plans to layoff around one 315 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,519 hundred staff, which is about to nine percent of its team. That's nine 316 00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:32,680 about nine I realized they had gotten that big, right. So this is 317 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,680 an organizational update message posted on the studios site. The CEO there, Adam 318 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,160 Kasynski, stated that the company was to have teams that are more agile and 319 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,559 more effective, and that after analyzing the teams in the company, the decision 320 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:52,519 has been made that some are no longer needed h Man. In the worst 321 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:55,519 case, this reads to me like those weird people who are like on mush 322 00:21:55,599 --> 00:21:59,839 Fire half of her stoff and everything's fine. Kind of downsizing, which is 323 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,279 incredibly problematic. But I don't know, Like CD Project Red is a studio 324 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:08,839 that really hired up at their which or three was this giant hit, so 325 00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:11,599 you know, it's it's not hard for me to believe that they were maybe 326 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,599 overstaffed. Still though, that's a lot of layoffs. That's pretty shitty. 327 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,799 Yeah, that's always shitty when we have to like see this, see you 328 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:22,839 see a bunch of people get their jobs like kind of toss away because someone 329 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:29,519 didn't plan this out properly. It's just it's always I always hate hearing about 330 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:33,000 this. I always hate cmbons social media, like everyone talking about like, 331 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:36,880 well, I know I got laid off today. It always hurts um. 332 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:40,000 I don't know, I just yeah, like I said at the top, 333 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:45,880 it's really wild to me that CD Project got this big because like they I 334 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:51,880 had aspirations of being the next rock star when Wild yeah, wild Hunt did 335 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,920 well and right, I mean you had they had Gwentz happening right then. 336 00:22:53,960 --> 00:23:00,079 They were really really high on cyberpunkin they had clearly high. Clearly they got 337 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,400 you know what the term would be cocky with Cyberpunk, because you know they 338 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,640 did not stick that landing. It's gotten better now, it looks right, 339 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,759 and people are really excited for that expansion, right, And that's what this 340 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,559 is kind of shitty because and everyone who's played down, everyone who's played is 341 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:18,000 saying like, yeah, this is what the game should have been when launch. 342 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:22,359 It's like, yeah, who I thought, like two issuears of development 343 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,160 later, it's finally what it should have been. So yeah, something something's 344 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,759 up there with management. That's that's what it looks like to me, between 345 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:34,359 that and this and everything's going on over there. And I mean, gosh, 346 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,519 you have to wonder what's going on with the next Witcher because expectations for 347 00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:41,440 that are going to be really high, and I can see a world where 348 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,160 that's like becomes the mass effect and drama of that. Seriously, you don't 349 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,200 want that. But you know, you had like this trilogy and it like 350 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,440 wrapped up in this satisfying way, and now here's the next one. Anyways, 351 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,000 because of course there has to be a next one, Like the Witcher 352 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,160 is just in a precarious place as a franchise, so they got to be 353 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,839 really careful with that. All right, we actually it's nice we have here. 354 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,480 There's a bunch of fighting game community news this right, yes, start 355 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:12,559 starting with the one I find most exciting. Nikolillion All Star Brawl Too was 356 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:18,480 announced this Yeah, it's gonna have some new characters, including split Word and 357 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,880 Jimmy Neutron. Shocked, Jimmy Neutron wasn't in the original his Okay, this 358 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,400 wasn't a joke, right, because I haven't been following this. His dad 359 00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:27,200 made it in, but he didn't. Yes, that's right, Yeah, 360 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,079 his dad was in the that's right. I remember that end because Dad was 361 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,440 a bit of a meme. These fighting games love the memes, like like 362 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,680 they had Shaggy and Multi Versus is like a cover character and it was all 363 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,160 that ultra instinct shaggy stuff or whatever it is. I mean, that was 364 00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:48,200 dope. I don't sanction it is, but I feel like then that that 365 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:49,920 killed the joke though, right, like it's uh oh it did. Yeah, 366 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:53,039 yeah, once like the company starts acknowledging it. That's what that Chip 367 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,559 Pokemon episode of Pokemon Once your parents like chipp Pokemon once your parents were on 368 00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:02,960 Facebook, we all we all act. Yeah, exactly. Um, there's 369 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,400 also some nice graphical improvements. I love to show the graphical improvements. They 370 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,200 would actually like showed the old April O'Neil model, you know I feel about 371 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,559 April, and then they showed like the new one. Big improvement, very 372 00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:17,279 big improvement. They didn't he didn't just improve it. They like it looks 373 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:21,319 like they remade it. Like this is like when when I saw that that 374 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,559 was too When I was watching, I was like, I mean, this 375 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,400 is just Nick All Stars, isn't it. And then you know they showed 376 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:32,480 the Cybis I'm oh no, they basically did remake everything. It is. 377 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:34,440 It's more than like, you know, a super stree Fighter game. It 378 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:37,599 is it is a sequel, even if you know a lot of stuff is 379 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,480 like obviously not in terms of scale, but it seems like it's almost like 380 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,119 a smash for to smash ultimate thing where they are building on the base, 381 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:52,519 but everything is improved. Cool right, And the original was really criticized for 382 00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:56,799 not having voice acting. They later added it and kind of an update, 383 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:59,400 this one will have that from the start, which I think is going to 384 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,440 help it seemed like a more premium product from the beginning. It's coming out 385 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,160 for just about everything. It's going to have some new single player stuff. 386 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,240 I thought there's promise. With the first All Star Brawl, it kind of 387 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,160 felt like even they were surprised that it caught on as much as it did 388 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:17,799 and it didn't have the budget to really match us expectations, and maybe this 389 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,079 time they can. So I am hopeful. Here next one, Brand Blue 390 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,079 Fantasy Versus Rising is getting rid of penalties for using simple inputs. Sean, 391 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,359 what does this mean? Yeah, this is one of the two that I 392 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,119 add here, So it's exactly what sounded like if you weren't aware gram Blue 393 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,400 Fantasy Versus the existing game Rising is the like, well, Rising is like 394 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,119 the All Star Brawl too, that's coming out yeah shortly here where it will 395 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,920 have upgrade graphics and new gameplay mccas and YadA, YadA, YadA. What 396 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,400 they're doing is something that like kind of took off on Twitter. In the 397 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,400 FTC, the director said that they are. The way it worked in the 398 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:02,279 first one was you would have cool downs for all your moves if you did 399 00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,839 the simple input version of them, so you know, like sort of modern 400 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:08,960 control stuff and three Fire six to give people context there. But just like 401 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,839 you know in three Fire six you do twenty percent last damage if you choose 402 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,640 do modern controls and grant blue Fantasy versus Rising. They're just getting rid of 403 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,799 any kind of penalties for doing simple inputs. They can even they're even ging 404 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,000 the option of turning off as they're calling it technical inputs, so you know, 405 00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:29,240 like quarter circles and z motions and stuff. They're even giving the option 406 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:32,839 to strap turn those off so you don't like accidentally get them, so that 407 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,319 way everything will be smash inputs like you know, forward in attacks, backwards 408 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,440 all, you know, that kind of thing. So I wanted to bring 409 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,119 this up with you because this will get into the topic of the show at 410 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:51,640 the end here. But you being we're both like fighting game enthusiasts, Like 411 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,559 you're on the more casual side. I'm more yeah, competitive enthusiast, but 412 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,039 we're both like sort of in the middle of the two. Like I'm the 413 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,319 mat Nick muscles in in your the I'm the Max yeah there, yeah, 414 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,880 yeah. So I'm wondering what you think of this of making just simple inputs 415 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,319 not just you know, as good, but making them basically the default. 416 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,880 What do you think about this? I don't. I always say the one 417 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:21,319 thing I like about fighting games is how transferable a lot of the skills are 418 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,240 from one game to another. And I think that's a nice thing about what 419 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,799 you would call classic controls. And like a street Fighter is, if you 420 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,240 learn to play Street Fighters six with classic controls, you could basically take that 421 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,720 and you will know how to play, you know, like like a King 422 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:42,000 of Fighters or previous street Fighters, Old street Fighters or Feature street Fighters, 423 00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:45,839 things like that. Yeah, I think that's my one thing. I don't 424 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,839 ultimately care if people want to do simpler controls, simpler inputs. I mean 425 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,279 I do get it. I mean it's still something of the hot topic even 426 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:56,519 for Street Fighters six, right, there are still some people who aren't happy 427 00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,519 about modern controls, don't think they should be allowed in rank stuff, but 428 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:02,880 at least an option in six, whereas in here, you know they're like 429 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,359 they're the old inputs are going to be in there, but they're basically making 430 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:08,599 it so that if you're not doing the simple inputs, you're kind of like 431 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,559 messing up, because it's like, why not just do the thing that's easier 432 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,200 to use? Do you think they feel better kind of being experimental with this 433 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:22,200 in Grand Blue Fantasy Overduc not that's like Guilty Gear Dragon. That's basically what 434 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,240 they said, without saying explicitly. They were like, um, I wouldn't 435 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,200 have it pulled up here. It's a very long Twitter posting go find if 436 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,160 you want to, But paraphrasing here, the director was like, and we 437 00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:34,359 feel that this is the right game to try this bold new approach. So 438 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,000 they're basically saying, like, we all want to try this in Guilty Gear. 439 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:40,680 Maybe we don't even want to try this in Blaze Blue, but Grand 440 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:42,480 Blue, where there's a lot of casuals coming from like the mobile game and 441 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,519 our thing, maybe this is a good place to try to set what are 442 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:49,119 we getting a new Blaze Blue? Like they haven't actually done Blaze Blue Slash 443 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,640 Blaze Blue, I never even so it's like the newer like Dragon Ball Fighters 444 00:29:53,680 --> 00:30:00,599 style engine. Right, we don't really know what, like are exist is 445 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,799 up to outside of Graham Blue Fantasy versus Rising what a mouthful? We all 446 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,960 really know what they're up to outside of updating existing games. So maybe at 447 00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:14,319 EVO next weekend we might might hear what's next from them because the last one 448 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:17,440 was a Blaze Blue Cross Tag Battle, the one that was the Big Cross 449 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,480 and that was still like the pick the old pixel or stuff. That wasn't 450 00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:22,519 like I mean it was another game. Yeah, that was like twenty eighteen 451 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,400 or song. So it's been a while, so I will say it's probably 452 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,000 more likely that the next team is just fighters to huh like dragon Ball again, 453 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:33,519 because that that probably was their most financially successful finding game. I am 454 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:38,680 minded. I am still holding out hope that we get a Persona five arena 455 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:45,519 from them. It'd be so cool. That'll be so cool. They yeah, 456 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:51,559 we need It's just yeah, they brought back for they Yeah they need 457 00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:52,960 to do five. Come on, Ryan, do do that in that engine 458 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,720 so I can kick but with GA again. I liked how that kind of 459 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:02,519 did quote unquote simple controls where every character had kind of one mash combo and 460 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:06,039 it like did okay damage. It would even use a superbar if you had 461 00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:07,079 one. I thought that was a pretty nice We've been doing it for a 462 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:11,279 while because Guilty Gear has had that as well. For while. It's like 463 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,160 all the Arts System games to me, like they're big problems, less so 464 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,240 than the it pots is this that there's always some kind of like there's two 465 00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:19,720 meter systems and there's a zillion things you can do with the meters, and 466 00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:25,240 it's always a bit so I use your double trick X cross thing to increase 467 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,359 your defense by ten percent. That is why they tone things down a lot 468 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,279 and Strive and that's why, Hey, um, I don't have any elegant 469 00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:34,480 way to put this in. But you know, a while back now, 470 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:40,000 as is two weeks ago or something, the EVO player numbers came out and 471 00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:47,119 Street Fighters six seven thousand competitors, which is nuts. But Guilty Gear Strive 472 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,759 still going strong and almost twenty five hundreds. So like clearly mainstreaming things and 473 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,680 simplifying things, it worked. They got more people in. Like I like 474 00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:57,759 Guilty Gear fine. I somehow just never even touched Drive. I think the 475 00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,759 timing just kind of was weird. Hey, it's on game pass and everything, 476 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:05,079 so you want to dip your toes there you go. Uh, But 477 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,640 you know, once once we have blast Bloom, you know, my girl 478 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,680 no elver millions back, I'll be in there for sure. You better have 479 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:17,039 her part, you know. And berets, you know, I like beret 480 00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:22,160 characters Okay, Project L. We got an update on that. This is 481 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,000 the fighting game from Riot that has kind of been in the works forever. 482 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,240 We see. Seems like we got more info and more screen time on this 483 00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:32,680 we've had in a long time. Run it by me, Sean all right, 484 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,079 So the main points here are as we knew already, a Project L 485 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:43,279 is a tag fighting game, so like Marvel versus Capcom, what we thought 486 00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:45,839 would be the case, but we didn't know for sure. It has been 487 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,839 confirmed with this latest news dump. There is a duo's mode, so you 488 00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,200 know, like duos in your in your mobiles like Legal Legends. They're doing 489 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,359 it where you can sit down with a friend you know, on your couch 490 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,759 or online or whatever, and you can each play one of the two characters 491 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:02,240 on your team, which I think is really cool. Other games have done 492 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,079 this like Street Fire, acrosstechn and Moral Combat nine I've both done this. 493 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,559 It's a very cool mode, like to just it's another way to like get 494 00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:16,680 your friends involved in a way that isn't just like you know, hey, 495 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,160 learn this fighting game and then we'll play. Because with this you can like 496 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,359 carry your buddy a little bit you want. You can't carry me exactly. 497 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,599 Yeah, being you can handline and the funny thing is they confirmed you can 498 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,160 even do two v ones. So like maybe you know, two newcomers come 499 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,359 in and they want to like play together because that way maybe they'll have a 500 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:39,920 little synergy there, and then you know, the expert of the group plays 501 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,279 by themselves, and you know, maybe they'll be yea, chrisy you shut 502 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:51,319 the hell up. I mean that that would make sense for like couch stuff 503 00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:54,200 and like you know, for casual competitive mode. I imagine a person controlling 504 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,079 both characters is just gonna have an easier time doing combos with the tags and 505 00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:02,160 stuff like probably it would be an advantage, but still it's neat. I 506 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,079 mean, I do like in fighting games, especially as somebody who played overwatched 507 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,400 a while and got very frustrated and how often like I felt like I was 508 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,679 losing or something was happening because of the team, whether it was sure or 509 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,039 not. In a fighting game, I know it's me and it's just me. 510 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,519 It's fine, So you're going to lose a little bit of that if 511 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,719 you have a tag partner. All the FCC heads were joking on Twitter like 512 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,360 this, this is gonna be the most mainstream fighting game ever, because they 513 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,159 brought the one thing that fighting is have always been missing. Blaming your friend 514 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,519 exactly so, but at least if it's my friend that's fun, I wouldn't 515 00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:37,079 be interested in this. If it's like you get paired up with a RANDO 516 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,280 for that, I think you will just do like you know, one versus 517 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,079 one normal tag rules, but I think that's same. I'm kind of excited 518 00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:45,920 for this just because you know, I played a little bit of Legal Legends 519 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,719 what probably eight years ago now, I remember, and I liked the game. 520 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,840 I liked the characters a lot. I just didn't want to play a 521 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,920 MOBI for very long. But they've always have had fun characters, So I'm 522 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,480 really excited that, like a fighting game is going to give me a way 523 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,320 to inter act and play with those characters and not make me play a mobile. 524 00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:07,360 Definitely. Um. We did get a little more info on it, 525 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:12,000 speaking of like we mentioned tagging a lot the fuse system, so Mike, 526 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:16,440 you'll be kindfamiliar with this. It's like S and CVS grooves, so you'll 527 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:22,320 be able to like sort of choose how how your character characters go into battle. 528 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,000 I forget the exact details out them, but some of them are like 529 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,320 they have this thing called handshake tagging, which is a like Marvel versus cap 530 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:32,960 of Infinite thing that they took where when you tag in the character, you 531 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,719 can switch to that character as well. And like one of the fuses that 532 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:44,920 you can choose is U double handshake tagging. They call it double down, 533 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,360 I believe, So you can, like you can be fighting and then you 534 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,159 tag in the our person and you like set up a combo with them or 535 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:53,559 something like that, and then if you have this fuse active, you can 536 00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:58,960 tag back to the other character, so you can swap between the two characters. 537 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,400 Like it's yeah then, uh sounding spicy. There's some other ones, 538 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,000 like there's one that's like a comeback mechanic, and so it seems like basically 539 00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,239 the fuse will be your way to sort of add maybe a mechanic of another 540 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,800 fight right into here and sort of make your you know, make your echo 541 00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:19,960 and are more unique than like your friend who plays the same characters or something 542 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,559 like that. So that's kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, And then 543 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,559 the last little bit here which pertains to me, I'm very excited. There 544 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,599 will be a demo at EVO, and this is going to be the first 545 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:32,480 time that the public gets to play this game. So I'm very excited because 546 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:37,039 I'm going to EVO and I'm gonna be trying this out and Taken eight and 547 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:45,360 MK one and all these games excited about You're gonna get to play it too. 548 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,320 It's all good. Yeah, I'll get to play it for like one 549 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,679 match at you standing in line for an hour. Yeah, it's gonna be 550 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,679 real fun, man. I remember, like god, very early on a 551 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,679 games beat, I covered that the fighting game from the company that Riot bought 552 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,559 to make Project Oh is like something with rising Thunder, Rising Thunder and like 553 00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:07,840 the whole thing there was kind of using cool down special moves and simpler inputs 554 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,119 for it instead of quarter circles and things like that. Like that was the 555 00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:14,880 impass, and clearly a lot of that is going into this game now because 556 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,239 they I guess I didn't put this in there, they did confirm that the 557 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,800 uh, well, I think they talked about in the past, but the 558 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,400 controller layout is going to be like the simple inputs that we mentioned earlier, 559 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,480 pressing like a direction plus special rier than doing like quarter circles and stuff. 560 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,440 So they're definitely trying to get more people in and I guess that sort of 561 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,400 plays in the topic we were just talking about that. It does seem to 562 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,079 be the way going forward to get people trend. Yeah, it may make 563 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,599 make inputs simple, but had there been a lot mechanical that they know on 564 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,519 I'm here for it. If it gets more people playing, that's that's what 565 00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:47,559 we need. Yeah, why not? All right, that's it for the 566 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:52,199 news. I got a few super chats here to go through. The Rachi 567 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,920 says, shout out to Turbos Sean, Hey, that's you, thank you. 568 00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:59,920 Yeah. Oh, grug here says thanks for the TV Talk sex record 569 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:04,239 dations on Tuesday. Mike and Turbo shot. Mike looks less like a boomer 570 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,679 on the lg C three. Well that's good. Oh you got that? 571 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,199 You got the LGC three. Very nice. Yeah, I've had I've had 572 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,920 my us. It's over on the other side of the room, my LGB 573 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,840 eight for a very long time. Now. That was, um god, 574 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,000 because what they're on three, So I means, yeah, this is like 575 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,519 the five year old model. At this point, I don't think I could 576 00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:30,840 tell you what my what model my TV is right now, I'm not sure 577 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:37,199 what company is it. I don't even know I got I got this visios 578 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,719 and the corner I'm going to buy a TV. I think about that and 579 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,039 like I look and I asked people, like what TV should I get? 580 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,239 Like I care? Then once I get it, Oh who cares? I 581 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,000 have the TV? Now? You know what that tells me, Mike, 582 00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:53,119 You know what it tells me. You didn't buy a good one. You 583 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,920 totally be bragging like, yeah, I got c I mean I bought it, 584 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,800 okay one, but I bought it, uh like what five years? 585 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,559 And I'm at this point now where I'm like, I do so little gaming 586 00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:06,719 in the living room. That's not something I'm gonna spend Monday on TV. 587 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,119 I'll spend it on GameCube games instead. That's why not. JD Camp says, 588 00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,880 have you done a nineties Disney show on the Dinosaurs? No? JD 589 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,559 Camp, But me and my brothers love that show. Sean. You are 590 00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,119 poor, precious little Sean. I don't know if you ever saw the hit 591 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:32,480 ABC sitcom Dinosaurs with Baby Sinclairio not the Mama. I saw what the final 592 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:36,880 episode right and then always circulates as a meme and like that that's something. 593 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,320 But I saw it. I saw it in some social studies or history classes 594 00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,079 because the teacher just liked the show is like here ice age, all right, 595 00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:51,119 let's go. It is like the ending is bananas, but it is 596 00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:59,760 in ancredible show. It tackled like very serious topics like sexual harassment and drugs 597 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:07,480 and like environmental crises and like ages. Was that like late eighties or oh 598 00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:12,760 this is this is nineties? Probably early to mid nineties. I'm thinking kind 599 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,239 of yeah, it is, uh, and it's done with these gorgeous Jim 600 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:22,000 Henson puppet suits that still look kind of amazing day incredible prop work and things 601 00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:24,599 like that. JD. Camps is nineteen ninety one is when it started. 602 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,119 I think it's still just a really really fun, goofy show. Then there's 603 00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:35,039 something kind of timeless about it because of like all the funny costumes and stuff, 604 00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,599 like, you know, it is kind of interesting how the quality of 605 00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,920 a puppet can really sell. You know, if you look at the old 606 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,679 TMNT movies, they had different costumes for each one, and going from the 607 00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:49,920 originals, which were extremely emotive and everything, to two, which was like 608 00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:53,599 kind of a step down there, to three. I mean, I'm a 609 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,639 ever two, but yes, my three. It wasn't Jim Henson anymore? 610 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,519 Is the problem? Yeah? So it was just like rubber ship can suits 611 00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,599 shit in the shape of a turtle? Basically awful. Yeah, three is 612 00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:07,320 bad? Uh, I thought too. No, I'm curious. I'm want 613 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,760 to compare one to two because in my mind they were the same. But 614 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,559 you might be right. I think I think they were different. They were 615 00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:15,440 like a slight step down by that might be misremembering. Yeah, but it 616 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,920 was still Jim Hanson and Jim Hanson also did the Dinosaurs show, which is 617 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,800 why they are so good. Um yeah, Jady Camp, We're gonna do 618 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,400 that episode. I'm surprised we haven't yet, because again, all the Minaughties 619 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,239 love that show. Chris says, do you guys think Sonny could bring back 620 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:35,599 PlayStation All Stars Battle Roy out? Now? The Placestation brain is writing so 621 00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:40,840 much higher than in the Placetation three era. I don't think they should. 622 00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:45,880 I think they should try. How much did a PlayStation All starts Battle roy 623 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,039 our customer, for one thing, come up with a better name this time? 624 00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:52,760 That'll help to just call it PlayStation All Stars? And you got it, 625 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,239 but you didn't mean. I don't know, so weird that was, 626 00:41:57,679 --> 00:41:59,960 and now it's just a meme because you know, I was just like, 627 00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,400 well a Battle Royal, like they made that so many years before Pug, 628 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,559 Like that's such a fun game and they're not. I worry because they do 629 00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,599 it now. I think it actually would be more of a Smash clone. 630 00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:15,719 And I liked it's weird, like you can only kill people with special moves 631 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,599 thing. It was so it was here's the problem with that. Here's the 632 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:22,280 problem with that. You could only kill with super moves. And that's why 633 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,119 it sucked is because if you spend your super it's like, well great, 634 00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:29,519 now I can't win the game, and that's just dumb. I liked it, 635 00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:34,360 though, so weird now this is goofy. It was really incredibly unbalanced 636 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,239 because some people just had way better supers. I killed Moore people exactly, 637 00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,440 Oh for sure, absolutely. But there was something about it I thought was 638 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,360 really fun. There's something there they could try it. They added Cat My 639 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,639 Girl Cat as Dealco from Gravity Russian. That made me happy. I had 640 00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:53,280 a good roster. I I wish they could just remaster it or make it 641 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,400 leave in the Bass version available places. In five. I thought that game 642 00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:00,519 was really underrated, kind of had a bit of a what do you people 643 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:05,199 want thing? When people were so down on that. I thought that game 644 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,920 was a lot of fun. Sweet Tooth Senate, I think he's actually just 645 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,480 called sweet tooth even never one these days loves to be like well actually not 646 00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,880 just a car's name. Yeah, I didn't know about that until they like 647 00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:16,800 brought up on the BombCast or whatever. I was like, I don't belie, 648 00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:23,480 what the sweets the car? That's so dumb, like cast Cutter saying 649 00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:27,239 Tombo was planned for place and all started. It was apparently going to be 650 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,159 the next dealc That makes me sad. But yeah, there's so many people 651 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:37,880 that they would obviously add now um like Astro, like alloy Gin probably add 652 00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:42,920 um. They couldn't work out that deal for Crash anymore. No, yeah, 653 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,559 you're right, the yeah that chip sailed. I was shocked they didn't 654 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:46,719 get him less than Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Yeah, they'll probably 655 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,679 throw window blawing Cade six just anoy Christian and they confirmed to me that people 656 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,480 didn't in fact like him a trace. Thank you, Chris, I forgot 657 00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:00,000 the name for great TSA's son. Boy boy, you can you can have 658 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,280 a return o girl in there? Why not? I guess sure, why 659 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,400 not? I hope so. I don't think it's ever happening, But god, 660 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:13,880 I would actually love PlayStation those stores a battle right now, Big Jimbo 661 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,559 Ryan, Okay, here's what we should talk to you about this, But 662 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:20,440 he says high Fellas would really love for new Slight Cooper games. I wonder 663 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,280 who I'd have to talk to to make that happen. Is there any old 664 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:29,239 PlayStation IP you went back? Um, yes, Big Jimbo Ryan, Jumping 665 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:35,599 Flash, Jumping Flash Jimmy's favorite over there. Yeah yeah, but like seriously, 666 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,159 Jumping Flash two is such a fun game. Jumping Flash Shoe basically had 667 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,599 Metri Prime's control scheme before Metric Prime came out, right of the first person 668 00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:46,480 tank thing. It's like, it's that even with the jump. It even 669 00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:51,039 literally like Metroid Primes. You jump, he certain looking down to the ground. 670 00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:53,239 That's straight from Jumping Flash. Jumping Flash, like just had it all 671 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,079 figured out. Such a cool game. I'm upset we never had more. 672 00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:02,280 I was very happy when the characters showed up in Ashell's playroom because again, 673 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,519 Astro's Playroom is just like the best game. But yeah, I try to 674 00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:12,039 think why I would even want like because they have sort of brought back a 675 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:15,000 lot of the characters. I would want, like Ratchet like I would, 676 00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:20,079 I would like a new Jack and Dexter especially. Yeah, I guess I 677 00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,440 differ from most people. I think a lot of people want one more like 678 00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:27,280 Jack two or Jack three. I am. I like those games. I 679 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,119 like the original, like very Mario sixty four inspired Jack and Dexter the most. 680 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:36,320 Still, I never played Sly. Should just do that, because I'm 681 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,800 sure I would. Actually, Sly Cooper was the one that I probably played 682 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,719 more than Jack and Daxter. I was always a Ratchet guy, but I 683 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,480 think Sly Cooper is the one that I played after that despite their abite it 684 00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:51,480 not being as well. I mean, it was still popular, but not 685 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,599 like as poplars Jack and Daxter, I would say. But yeah, I 686 00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:58,119 mean that's that's the thing one thinking about these Like, to me, PlayStation 687 00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:00,960 now has always been strong for it's their party relations. So I'm thinking of 688 00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:06,400 like, you know, what are great PlayStation games, Metal Years, Solid 689 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,840 seven, Mega Man Legends, right, yeah, yeah, all these games 690 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,920 I love. They are like other companies, So that's a little you think 691 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,400 about side. Yeah, Sly and Jack in Daxter. There still are some 692 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,440 franchises that I really would like to see back, at least like the Ratchet 693 00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:25,440 style, or you would get one cool one generation Ape Escape. Such is 694 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,199 so much fun. That's such a neat idea. It's a bit of a 695 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,920 shame we haven't had a new one of those. Yeah, trysthing new with 696 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:37,360 that forever. Yeah. Um, nothing from the PlayStation three Air except where 697 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,199 I charted. I don't need a new resistance. I don't need a new 698 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,000 kill. So I'm pretty you know what I do like Infamous? I do 699 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:49,679 like Infamous. I think like, Okay, they went in a good direction 700 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,519 with it. They just need to go further. They just needed to make 701 00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:55,079 it, you know, more fun. But I guess they basically have that 702 00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:59,679 Carra with Spider Man now, So right, exactly what what's the best Infamous 703 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,679 is? Its second Son? I think it's Second Son Slash First Light. 704 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,840 Yeah, because firstly, I like, expanded on it in some ways they 705 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,599 really like. But yeah, in terms of bass games, second Son. 706 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,639 And then Goldie says, I don't have a place Station five spending too much 707 00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,880 on super chats and no problem with that at this point. Should I wait 708 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,039 until twenty twenty four and get that pro. I have a good PC and 709 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,880 can wait for Spider Man. If you can't wait, wait, but there's 710 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:28,559 there's still no guarantee about a PRO and if something doesn't get announced like by 711 00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,239 the end of the year, maybe just just just bite that boot. I 712 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,199 don't know. That is always the awkward thing, right, if you've already 713 00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:37,679 waited this long to get a Places to five and now it's like maybe, 714 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,719 yeah, yeah, you have to wait, Like how much do you want 715 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,960 to play the exclusive? Because if that's that's the big thing, I'm a 716 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,119 more I'm a PC switch gamer, just like it sounds like Goldie is just 717 00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:51,599 like Jeff is, and we're always saying like I go to my console really 718 00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,519 exclusives, Like I just I don't even have my own PS five. I 719 00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:59,119 borrowed my buddies so I could play FF sixteen and after playing, I was 720 00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,840 like, you know, I've played now, I've played Ratchett, I've played 721 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,239 this, I could play God of War, I could play Horizon, but 722 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,599 those are probably coming to PC at some point. I'm just like, I 723 00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:14,039 don't know, you really have to think about how badly do you want to 724 00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:15,719 play that? Like handful of like, you know, a dozen or so 725 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:21,559 exclusives right now that Ratchett Clint Grit depart just came to PC. Apparently that's 726 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,039 a pretty good port actually of this one. Yeah, I sorry, it 727 00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:27,800 has like a couple of very minor issues, but in general, yeah, 728 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,639 apparently it's very good. Which, Hey, Nixy's who I thought, you 729 00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:32,519 know, get the PC people to do a PC port. It's good. 730 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,719 There go a game. That's it for Supertest for enough. If you guys 731 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,159 have more polease send than we will read them before the end of the show. 732 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,639 We're going to take a short break here. We've got a couple of 733 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,800 games we are going to play when we get back, so stick around. 734 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:57,519 We will be are and even b all right, we are back. We 735 00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,679 are ready to play some games. Looks like I have somebody besides Jeff to 736 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,559 trounce and destroys this to the messy pin the same. Actually, I think 737 00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:07,119 we're about even. He might even be doing a little better than me. 738 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,360 But that's okay. I'm going to win today for sure. Just what you 739 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,800 did last time? Did I lose against you? You didn't. It wasn't 740 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,800 blowout, but you can remember. Anyways, this is closest to the Messy 741 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:27,760 Pin Special Guest Edition Volume two presented by terab Oshean powered by Metacric, executively 742 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,000 produced by Benji Bob Kojima. Anyways, if you don't know, this is 743 00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:37,039 the game where if every round, every round, we will be looking at 744 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:43,039 a certified retro game that is older than ten years. For those who don't 745 00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:46,000 know, the goal is to predict the game's metacric score. We use a 746 00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:51,440 closest to the Pins scoring system, so for every point deviated away from the 747 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,679 actual point you are, you get one point added to your score. It's 748 00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:58,440 like golf. You want to have the lowest score the lost deviation by the 749 00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:01,719 end of the game. If weeks guess the exact number right, instead of 750 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,480 gaining zero points, we will deduct five points from our total score. Now, 751 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,960 Mike, I told Benji Bop what we were doing for the topic of 752 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,239 the show today. So I have a feeling I know what the theme is. 753 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,159 I have not looked at the game, so so run even footing here. 754 00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:20,440 Okay, what do you say we you flip a coins, see who 755 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,840 goes first? You do it. I know how much you like to flip 756 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:28,119 your coins. Absolutely I'll do an Alphabecca order heads would be you, Mike, 757 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,679 So you get to pick first, you get tell me what you think. 758 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:37,360 PlayStation All Stars Battle Royal at the PlayStation three, released November twentieth, 759 00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:45,480 twenty twelve, Based on sixty nine critic reviews, has on me dot com. 760 00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,639 All right, good, yeah, this is funny. Um Yeah, 761 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,920 like I said, I remember it like not doing super well, which of 762 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,920 course doesn't mean like it isn't the sixties or something, but yeah, I 763 00:50:52,920 --> 00:51:00,199 should have done better. I think I'm gonna say seventy four, seventy far. 764 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,159 Okay, it's interesting that you say that, because I was definitely uh 765 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,320 thinking right off the bat seventy five, because I think I think I think 766 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:16,280 it leaned a lift higher in the seventies. I want to say, so, 767 00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:21,280 I mean, you know, I'm gonna pull a little bit distance between 768 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,840 I just make things interesting. I'll say seventy six. I'll go up a 769 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:29,280 little bit here. Okay, so I like it. Let split the difference 770 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,920 here. I'm saying seventy six, Mike is saying seventy four. The actual 771 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:40,519 score is seventy four, you bastard, fucking go hell yeah, dang, 772 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:46,400 good guess so Mike, Mike has negative five five two going into round number 773 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:52,239 two. Marvel, Marvel versus S and K two. I think he means 774 00:51:52,280 --> 00:52:00,360 CAP Converse, Assess and K Millennium two thousand game, though I'm pretty sure 775 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,920 that's what it means. Release on the is that? Yeah? Okay, 776 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,559 okay, because I'm trying to see it's PlayStation two November six, two thousand 777 00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:15,320 and one, twenty. Yeah, it's gotta be cvs two, um, 778 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:22,199 cvs two very highly regarded. Oh my critics, they right, the critics. 779 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,840 Yeah, that's the thing because pixel game gross, yeah, and not 780 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,320 all off content and mostly an arcady kind of thing. I think the prestige 781 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,079 would have carried alow though, So I'm gonna say I'm gonna go maybe a 782 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:42,280 little higher than I'm talking about it. I'm feeling eighty two. Eighty two 783 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,719 feels right for this. I think a little bit better than that probably. 784 00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:51,360 Oh h, I think you're not too far off it. I will once 785 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,119 against say eighty four. And also, I don't know why this thing is 786 00:52:55,199 --> 00:53:00,440 pulsing every time you're clicking on something, But that's okay. A man, 787 00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:04,840 nobody knows, nobody doing what the scoreboards is doing. What it's going to 788 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,880 do. It it's it's it's as natural state. Yeah, alright, well 789 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:14,639 I got eighty two mice guy eighty four. The actual score is eighty one. 790 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:21,199 Nice. That's such a good game. I mean, two versions, 791 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,079 it has to be good enough. That's I feel like that's it just got 792 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,360 um points knocked off for lack of content because, you know, fighting games 793 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,840 at this time, we're mostly does arcade poards, and so they were like, 794 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,440 you know, hey, we've been nice to see some a little more, 795 00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:40,280 right, all right? Game number three, Virtua Fighter five on line 796 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,880 Xbox three sixty October thirty at two thousand and seven thirty six Critic reviews. 797 00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:53,119 What you feeling Mike about VF five. I feel like I remember this game 798 00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:58,800 at least the places in three like original version being reviewed pretty well. I 799 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,159 don't know why there'd be any a friend for the three sixty version. I 800 00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:05,679 think I remember there's a lot of like fighting game free servey this game. 801 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,960 People liked this game. I think I'm gonna even say in ninety I think 802 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:14,239 people liked this so nine Okay, trying to remember, but yeah, people 803 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,719 were high on this. From what I will tell you, Virtua Fighter five 804 00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:21,440 is the Virtua Fighter. People always let you know, they go back to 805 00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:24,400 VF one or VF two for being influential, But VF five is the game. 806 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,599 Right that being said, I think games never do that. Well, 807 00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:32,000 I know that's it's so weird to me that I think this one did. 808 00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:36,840 I'm curious now I'm curious too. I mean, you know what I'm gonna 809 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,199 I'm gonna try to I'm gonna try to play save. I'm good. I'm 810 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,400 gonna Gillow Risky here maybe, but I'm gonna put a big gap between us. 811 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,280 I'm saying only eighty. Okay, this is make up some ground here. 812 00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:50,000 Yeah, if I'm a lot closer, if it was a lot lower, 813 00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:52,079 I might make up that ground. All right. So I got eighty, 814 00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:58,599 Mike's got ninety. Actual score is eighty nine. I told you, 815 00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:02,480 man, dang very good. I definitely. I mean, I'd love to 816 00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:07,639 deduct eighty points from my score here is once the game I will. I 817 00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:12,920 will take my nine points. Uh so I should be a twelve? Could 818 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,119 I ever even think it's time? Like? Man, critics really like this, 819 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,480 Okay, that's wild. It was a very good game. It was 820 00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:22,320 it was very complex it's weird. That's like the last virtual player, right. 821 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,920 There has not been a Virtual Fighter six. Uh no, not not 822 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,639 an original one. They released improved versions of Virtual Fighter five. They well 823 00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:36,119 they literally remade VIA five in the in the Dragon engine. You know, 824 00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:43,400 GG made it. So that's interesting. Uh all right, well that was 825 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,360 a big hit to me. All right, let's say what game number four 826 00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:52,360 is. Castlevania Judgment Was This Boy Doing to Us? Released on the Wei 827 00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:59,880 November eighteen, twenty eight, thirty three critic reviews, Um, it's my 828 00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:07,039 pick yep shit. I this small as games everyone thinks is bad, but 829 00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:12,480 it's actually kind of dope because this is the one what I believe Aiding like 830 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,719 one of the old yeah, one of the old school developers. May I 831 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:22,840 believe this was the Aiding one. And so Aiding did a lot of a 832 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,400 lot of blood fighting games that people don't realize they've worked on, like Moral 833 00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:30,280 versus Capcom and stuff like that. I want to say though, that people 834 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:39,440 were down on this one overall. Um, how down on us? It's 835 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:47,800 a wee game. I think it required motion controls for some things. Ah 836 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:53,920 my guts telling me rather low? But how low? I even feel like 837 00:56:54,119 --> 00:57:01,679 seventies, something might be a little high. I'm almost feeling like I'm almost 838 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:07,119 feeling like sixty eight, Like I think this game might have been knocked. 839 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,880 I don't know, I don't know how people were reacted to this. You 840 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,559 know, screw it. I'm I'm so far removed from yet this point. 841 00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:19,400 I'm just gonna I'm balls the wall. Sixty eight I'm walking in. Yeah, 842 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,119 they did not like this game. I remember. I think it's definitely 843 00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:25,960 in the sixties. I think even lower than that, actually, maybe even 844 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,280 lower than the six. People did not like it. They really dragged this 845 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,239 game. I've never played it. The arrangements were really good, good soundtrack. 846 00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:35,960 So I'll say sixty five might maybe even lower. I'm not sure. 847 00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:38,679 Is that your final answer? Sixty five my final answer? All right, 848 00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:42,119 sixty five for mic, sixty eight from me? Yeah, and I got 849 00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:46,320 me second guessing because I feel like people really dragged this one. How badly 850 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:53,760 did the forty nine? Yeah, people realizated it. I was able to 851 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,400 play a little safe there. It's like, well, it's got to be 852 00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,559 lower than him. But yet people did not like this game. All right, 853 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,440 Well, I couldn't careless to play it now, Like because it can't 854 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,800 be that bad. It's not. And that's the thing. People who actually 855 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,760 try it out now they're like, no, this game actually kind of rules. 856 00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:13,400 One of the one of the things I've heard is that a lot of 857 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,159 the casuals didn't like how aiding it was. So like Marvel versus Capcom three, 858 00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:21,440 you get hit once you're dead. This is a similar kind of game 859 00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:24,119 where like you will get messed up on a good combos. I remember not 860 00:58:24,199 --> 00:58:29,079 liking the character designs like this is like there was like that era where Simon 861 00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:32,400 Belmont was just an anime guy with like red mop of hair for some reason. 862 00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,840 Yeah, instead of like the beefcake that he is. Right, Yeah, 863 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,000 it's really weird. It's a weird game, all right. Well the 864 00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:45,559 last game, maybe I'll be able to make up this sixteen point discrepancy on 865 00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:52,719 Bushito Blade. Let's gonna go either way. PS one Game September thirtieth, 866 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:59,400 nineteen ninety seven, thirteen Crack Reviews. Mike, Yeah, no idea Bushito 867 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,360 Blade. Uh, we'll see. We'll do a cowards answer saying eighty two 868 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:10,400 as a cowards answer, that's so safe. I know, well it's safe, 869 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:15,880 but also that's what I was gonna go with, oh, there's no 870 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,639 winning for me at this points. The best sign help for us to try 871 00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:28,440 and nail it exactly and just you know, have some bragging rights. Um 872 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,440 see it, I am good prices, right, I'm gonna say eighty one. 873 00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:37,920 Yeah, I think people like to a good amount. Maybe didn't love 874 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,119 it super well, all right, no way, I'm coming back from this. 875 00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:44,159 But I'm locking eighty one. Mike's locking eighty two. The actual score 876 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:49,280 is it's three. I was on the wrong side. That's funny. The 877 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,760 cowards answer was very close. It was very close, which means that Mike 878 00:59:53,840 --> 01:00:01,159 wins was sixteen points to my very high thirty three. There incredible all right, 879 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,719 good good stuff there, especially like the part where I won by a 880 01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:10,480 lota. Well, we got plenty more fighting game content today because we're gonna 881 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,360 take a little break. We're gonna set up for a Sean and I to 882 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,199 deliberate on the ten best fighting games all time. None of that mount rushmore 883 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,559 crap. Here, we're deciding some stuff. We don't care how important a 884 01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:27,199 game is. We are only talking about quality in our preferences. Let's get 885 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:35,840 We'll be right back. Welcome back, everybody, it is now time for 886 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,679 Sean and I to decide as we decide things right here, this podcast was 887 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:46,559 right the top ten fighting games of all time. There's no method to this 888 01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:52,519 madness. We're just going to work together as friends to decide together. We've 889 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:55,960 also asked our community for some help here, so they'll have their suggestions. 890 01:00:57,039 --> 01:00:59,960 Chat is popping off to their suggestions. There's gonna be a lot of fun. 891 01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:02,760 Ten should give us plenty of room to get a lot of people's favorites 892 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,280 on it. Um Sean, if I may suggest one off the top here, 893 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,440 one I think is very dear to both of us. One we both 894 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:15,079 like a lot. One that is very acclaimed in general. Street Fighter three 895 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,519 Third Strike. Oh yeah, I'm not you know what I'm gonna We'll see 896 01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:22,000 how far it down goes, but I'm gonna play right at the top here. 897 01:01:22,119 --> 01:01:28,360 Yeah. That is just like that is still kind of the ideal classic 898 01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:31,920 fighting game to me, where it has just enough mechanics to be interesting, 899 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,320 but not so much that kind of gets bogged down in it. You have 900 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:44,440 the beautiful character sprites, the beautiful Yeah, like the fun soundtrack. Uh, 901 01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:46,280 it's just a fun It's a fun game to play. And it's a 902 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:52,000 really fun game to watch people play. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, 903 01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:57,800 something as simple as the way the Perry system works in that game does so 904 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,199 much for the game. There's so much depth in just the foot seas of 905 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,800 everything there that well, you're already throwing out some slanks, some stem I'm 906 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,000 gonna help people. So, uh, the Perry systems game, if you 907 01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:10,039 tap forward instead of winning back to block, if you tap forward at the 908 01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:15,760 right moment, you can perfectly block an attack without taking even chip damage. 909 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,960 You can kind of reverse it too. Foot seas is kind of just like 910 01:02:20,119 --> 01:02:22,519 you know, it's when you're sort of spaced out, you're kind of in 911 01:02:22,599 --> 01:02:24,119 neutral, you're probably you're kind of just trying to get a little pope there. 912 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,880 You're just kind of throwing some stuff out seeing that's right, that's right, 913 01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:31,159 you're learning, I'm learning, I know my pluses and minuses and all 914 01:02:31,159 --> 01:02:35,519 this stuff. There you go, that's right, and with thirds, right, 915 01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:38,159 they with the Perry system. The developers haven't mentioned before that the entire 916 01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:44,079 point of press tapping forward to Perry is when you know it, you have 917 01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:47,559 to risk something because you can't block if you're pressing forward to Perry. So 918 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,000 it's either you get to Perry or you get hit. It's it's beautiful, 919 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,360 it's simplicity. Love it and yeah everything you mentioned as well. The music 920 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:59,599 is good. It's beautiful, is fantastic game, and that Perry system gave 921 01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:04,800 us the greatest, the most iconic fighting game moment. Every let's go justin 922 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,679 right with the with the chun Ley versus Ken with just those perfect Perry's I 923 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,800 have from a desperate situation and then he does his own super to win it 924 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:19,039 while everybody freaks out. It's incredible. Everybody in Chad who sang Second Impact 925 01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:22,280 is better is just insane. Although Second Impact and the original street Fare three 926 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,559 have very good stages. Also, I kind of wish you could just play 927 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,199 all the stages in the Stry because they are really Harry's were just bad in 928 01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:34,760 every prior version of us have three, So like, if you like the 929 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,119 Perrys, you play Third Strike as simple as that. That's why it's the 930 01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:40,039 once lived on. Yeah, we still have amazing stages in three. We 931 01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:45,360 did ever tell you about subway shots? No? Yeah, when we played 932 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,519 this game, and I think when me and my friends were playing in a 933 01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:52,119 lot, we had like the version that was on the original Xbox in that 934 01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:53,960 street Fighter collection. But you know you do random stages and if you got 935 01:03:53,960 --> 01:04:00,280 the Subway level, you know everyone did a shot. Subway shots is those 936 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,360 like nines. This is one of those like the Naughties specials. There those 937 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,559 good times. And then it's like a I love the roster because didn't you 938 01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:12,360 do have like normal street Fighter people and new characters that are very much street 939 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,239 Fighter spirit, like Makodo. They used to have weirdos. I know at 940 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,639 first people that the weirdos were a bit much. I think the weirdos are 941 01:04:18,679 --> 01:04:25,920 like Necro in twelve and que. I think they're very even they bad character 942 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,119 to the game, definitely they did. Okay, Sean, not let you 943 01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:31,480 sort of suggest one here now? Oh well, I was gonna ask you, 944 01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:34,960 do we want to like just run through a series real quick, like 945 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,400 while we're on it, or do we want to flip flop? We do 946 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,159 because you think there might be other street Fighter games you can say, because 947 01:04:41,159 --> 01:04:45,079 to me, like like street Fight three is kind of still the one thing 948 01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,679 about six is honestly the next one for meeting now, that's the thing. 949 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:53,559 It's liked. We we said this before the break, but this is what 950 01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:58,400 we think are the best ones or maybe even a little of like the ones 951 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,039 that we really love, and so I think we need to say it now. 952 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,960 I don't think Street Fire two makes the list, No, And I 953 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,519 think I think Jeff would Yo if he was here. And I like street 954 01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:15,480 Fire two, and obviously it is the game Yo Turbo. Sean comes from 955 01:05:15,519 --> 01:05:19,159 street Fighter to Turbo. Super Turbo was the first fighting gaer play. So 956 01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:24,320 I have mad respect and love for street Fire two. But here's the thing. 957 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:29,280 The people who actually know anyone, anyone who's getting mad right now is 958 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,840 getting mad because they don't play Street Fire two. That's a busted ass game. 959 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,639 I like, yeah, street Fight two is great, it's still nostalgic 960 01:05:35,679 --> 01:05:39,079 to play it. But if you told me I can take ten fighting games 961 01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:45,000 to a desert island, street Fire two, like Super Turbo specifically, would 962 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,880 be like or maybe the first one would be like Mount Rushmore of Moore. 963 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:54,840 Absolutely street Fighter two, but top ten no, no, no, it's 964 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,800 not my favorite. So then I think that, you know, then stands 965 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,920 the reason. Four. I don't think it was really cool, but like 966 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,920 there'll be six is just a better four or a better five. Yeah, 967 01:06:10,039 --> 01:06:14,880 it's it's it's like there's there's a delineating mark there between three and four of 968 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,519 like old and new era, and I think you're more of an Alpha guy 969 01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:19,880 than I am. I like the Alpha's fine, but I'm not thinking about 970 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:24,760 I like the Alpha's a lot. Yeah, but um, I don't think 971 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,559 any of those make the list either, like on someone else's list. I 972 01:06:28,599 --> 01:06:30,519 wouldn't bat an eye if they said, like Alpha three because I think it's 973 01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:36,119 like good and especially like Alpha three Max. Yeah, totally absolutely, But 974 01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:43,119 when it comes to best, the question becomes is it too soon to put 975 01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:45,000 three Fighter six? I don't know. I mean we're I mean we're we 976 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:48,079 basically have almost had like quote unquote a season of it because we have our 977 01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:53,119 first deal c character, our first kind of balanced pass. That's the thing 978 01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:56,880 with with fighting games. A season is a year. So we haven't haven't 979 01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,679 that ship yea as of this recording, on the off chance, so I 980 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,920 was watching it later. Um, as of this recording, Rashid just came 981 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,360 out this week, and so that's where we are in Street Fire six. 982 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,960 I I almost want to say, Mike, I almost want to say that 983 01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:15,519 we just agree to leave it off for recency bias. Maybe we'll see, 984 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,119 we'll see many you know what, you know what, I'll it'll be the 985 01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:20,639 first honorable mention for now and then if we have a spot, let's see 986 01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:26,280 see. But I'm okay with Street Fire Third Strike kind of just rapping that 987 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,159 whole series. Same all right, well then let me see let me look 988 01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:38,199 at mildast here. All right, um says we're on the topic of Capcom. 989 01:07:38,239 --> 01:07:40,760 I think a Marvel game, let's say, is a Marvel Baby. 990 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,800 I think it's Marvel Baby. That's the question is where you curly mustache? 991 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,000 Uh? The question is which one is the thing? Yeah? I mean, 992 01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:54,280 I know you like three a lot. Ultimate It's a big deal for 993 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,000 a lot of people. I like at fine. I am very much a 994 01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,360 Marve versus Capcom two boy. Um that I mean, I got had that 995 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,760 for Dreamcast and it was kind of my Dreamcast game. I was. It 996 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:09,800 was kind of mine too. Yeah, yeah, because I Dreamcast. I 997 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,400 play a lot of games that Drincast because me and my friends love the arcade 998 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:18,640 experiences are like not a great port on Drinkcast. But NBC two is basically 999 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:25,319 arcade perfect. It's a fantastic port of just this goofy, beautiful mess of 1000 01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:30,439 a game with these like the character sprites reading from gorgeous and new to Felicia's 1001 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,359 like old ass dark Stalkers sprite, the more again sprite that would be in 1002 01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:39,479 every game until D the for Yeah, that was wacky three D backgrounds, 1003 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,199 but it's just, you know, it was like the first, especially the 1004 01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:45,159 first fighting game I remember where it was just a silly amount of characters and 1005 01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:48,000 I loved that and you had to unlock half of them, and I had 1006 01:08:48,039 --> 01:08:51,520 so much fun just playing through the you know, the story mode of the 1007 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:57,000 arcade mode over and over and doing those fights and just unlocking more characters, 1008 01:08:57,239 --> 01:09:00,600 seeing which weirdos were in there, and you know, like I never had 1009 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:01,880 to play this game too seriously because I just played it with my friends and 1010 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,920 my brothers a lot, and we were because we played together, we're about 1011 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:10,239 a similar skill level, even if my one friend did have a freaking sentinel 1012 01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:14,520 on his team in that droop absolutely crazy to see. God, I just 1013 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,359 like, this is still just such a game I associate so heavily with being 1014 01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:23,680 like a thirteen year old is constantly and I felt so good on that Dreamcast. 1015 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,760 So going into this episode, I was thinking to myself, like, 1016 01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:31,840 which Marvel game? I think the realization came too. Probably only one is 1017 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,239 making the list. I don't. I don't see both making a list between 1018 01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:41,239 NBC two and UNBC three. And I think even though I prefer three, 1019 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,800 I also love too, and so if you have love for two but none 1020 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,000 further not really Summer three, probably three please very ugly? Like those graphics 1021 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:57,760 have aged pretty bad. You know, I'm good run, I got that. 1022 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,319 Mars Cock two is some beautiful game. This this, this Ultimate Mars 1023 01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:05,479 Account three even have a good soundtrack. Actually that's it? What's wrong? 1024 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:11,159 What did I stayed? Upset? You everything? What are you talking about? 1025 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,000 What you think Ultimate Marvelus is? Caclam three is a pretty game. 1026 01:10:16,279 --> 01:10:19,640 I mean in terms of raw assets, no, but like the art direction 1027 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:25,479 is still phenomenal. Yeah, it looks like a comic book if you will 1028 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,439 be pushing it a little bit, all right, you know, me and 1029 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,520 me, this is where me and Michael Bahris throats if we talk, any 1030 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,760 looks better than infinite love that well? Yeah, yeah, I want to 1031 01:10:39,039 --> 01:10:41,760 Mike. You're like, I didn't bring this up because NBCi is my favorite 1032 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:46,079 Marvel But yeah, I know you freaking plays well, but yes, it's 1033 01:10:46,079 --> 01:10:49,319 but ugly. Okay, while we're on this, though, we should probably 1034 01:10:49,319 --> 01:10:54,439 talk about uh Caclam Versus S and K two, which in terms of like 1035 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,520 the Versus series, and this is like almost even not really the Versus series, 1036 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,119 and the way that there's a linear considered is considered vers but it's just 1037 01:11:01,159 --> 01:11:04,319 so different from like because like you know, X the expect Children of the 1038 01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:09,680 Atom to Marvel's Capcom two, there's like a pretty straight linea share cap Conversus 1039 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,560 that's the case almost its own thing in terms of what it's combining, and 1040 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,479 it's fantastic. It's so much fun. It does a really good job of 1041 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:21,560 not just like combining those rosters, but combining those mechanics. Um, just 1042 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:26,359 a gorgeous two D game. Really again, very good backgrounds. I think 1043 01:11:26,399 --> 01:11:29,199 it's a I think it's a better looking game Marvels Capcom two is. I 1044 01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:34,039 think it's generally definitely more coheite cohesive, Like there's something fun about the mess 1045 01:11:34,079 --> 01:11:39,079 the hot messrs too. Yeah, Marl Versus Capcom two was mostly just an 1046 01:11:39,079 --> 01:11:43,279 asset dump, and they did create a bunch of original stuff for CBS two, 1047 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,199 so yeah, they modernized a lot of stuff for it, right, 1048 01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:48,520 yeah, Machi, right, like, come on, let's go great. 1049 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:54,159 Yeah, Maki, who was originally supposed to be Linn Kursaala from a VP 1050 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,920 the Only versus Predator r K games a cool but yeah that's why, Yeah, 1051 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,279 that's why Maki has the town is there originally supposed to be played. 1052 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:08,319 We got true love making. He has a good song. Yeah, um, 1053 01:12:09,039 --> 01:12:11,960 are you saying you want in the top ten? I think I do. 1054 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,800 I think I think I like this more than actually any King of Fighter 1055 01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:19,920 even personally, I would agree any yeah, anything. I'm a capcom chill 1056 01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:25,119 so I show I've been appreciating SK more. There's maybe one other s and 1057 01:12:25,159 --> 01:12:28,520 K game I consider, uh after where are you? Where are you feeling? 1058 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,399 On here? I'll be as high up as like those. I think 1059 01:12:31,399 --> 01:12:34,520 maybe a seven it is okay for now, We'll might be even lower. 1060 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:39,840 But I do like a lot put from a little bit later. It's been 1061 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:46,039 really enjoying it. I I'm actually not a big CVS guy, but I 1062 01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:49,800 played it some. I played at Galloping Ghost every time I'm there. I 1063 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:54,279 appreciate it a lot. So you know what, I'll appreciate your decision to 1064 01:12:54,319 --> 01:13:00,000 put on there. I appreciate you appreciating me. Um, all right, 1065 01:13:00,199 --> 01:13:03,640 Mike, I want to keep the cap contrain rolling with one boy. Okay, 1066 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,920 let's hear it. I'm putting in the top ten. Okay, well 1067 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,800 if you if you want to put low, that's fine. I just want 1068 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:17,199 to get them too. But okay, our stone is legit rival School No. 1069 01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:26,880 One. Oh right, okay, we're going Vampire Survivors or which one 1070 01:13:27,319 --> 01:13:34,760 m Vampires Savior aka Dark Stalkers three on us consoles. Yes, it is 1071 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:40,279 no good, it is. It is the game. A lot of people 1072 01:13:40,279 --> 01:13:44,640 don't realize this is basically the game that invented the anime fighter. Like you 1073 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:49,000 know, I usually gets accredited to Guilty Gear vampires Vampires say you're specifically like 1074 01:13:49,159 --> 01:13:55,840 the Dark Stalkers series did that in like the early ish nineties. It's still 1075 01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:00,640 a beautiful game, so well animated, basically the level of anime you would 1076 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:05,960 get from something like I guess like Third Strike was happening in like I can't 1077 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,119 remember exactly when the first one came out. I think it was like ninety 1078 01:14:09,119 --> 01:14:14,520 one, Like, oh my god, the first the first Dark Sockers was 1079 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,279 ninety one. Yeah, it was. It was it was very like chat, 1080 01:14:20,359 --> 01:14:25,439 keep me honest down there. But yeah, like Dark Sockers was the 1081 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,199 ninety four that makes a little bit more sense. Oh, ninety four, 1082 01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:31,039 okay, So it was in ninety four, ninety six, ninety seven or 1083 01:14:31,039 --> 01:14:35,000 something ninety seven, yeah, ninety five, ninety seven, okay, okay, 1084 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,439 so yeah, but yeah, it was like you know, it was 1085 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,600 still in the first half of the nineties when they were street Fighter two was 1086 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,920 nineteen ninety two. I thought, nineteen ninety one. That's right, that's 1087 01:14:45,039 --> 01:14:47,760 right, okay, Okay, I forgive him that he's a child. Everything 1088 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,720 is. Anything from the mid to early nineties is practically the same time. 1089 01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:55,199 Hey, that's why I remember Visa it was ninety seven. I don't remember 1090 01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:58,279 on the first game. It is weird, like Final Fight is eighty nine, 1091 01:14:58,319 --> 01:15:00,079 and that's a game that looks way ahead of eighty nine, right, 1092 01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:02,479 so that sometimes like, yeah, that's why, that's why I struggle to 1093 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,560 keep some of these early games like the dates figured out. Yeah, um, 1094 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:12,680 okay, But anyways, I'm nominating Vampire Savior because it is the best 1095 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,920 version of that game. Weirdly enough, the Dark Soccer's games, they like 1096 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:21,399 each one like is missing a little bit from the others, and so Vampire 1097 01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,880 Savior is the most well rounded one. And as some of my characters that 1098 01:15:26,039 --> 01:15:29,920 become a cock and like the Marl Versus Capcom series, like the stages are 1099 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,399 all gorgeous. Like basically everything we've been talking about for other games that would 1100 01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:36,920 come you know, five day even ten years later, came in this one 1101 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:44,039 first. So my question you here, Mike, is where where are you 1102 01:15:44,079 --> 01:15:45,760 willing to put it for now in this top time? Yeah, it's because 1103 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:50,760 because I have been able to play a good amount of Vampire Savior thanks to 1104 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,960 the recent collection, we had to switch what there was a version this for 1105 01:15:55,079 --> 01:15:57,800 PSP of Night. There's a nice sucker game there. I actually played a 1106 01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,800 good amount of back in the day that I liked a lot. I don't 1107 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,760 know that was based on exactly, but that was fun. I have no 1108 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:08,439 problem with this being on the list. Um, I would probably rather play 1109 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,479 cap COVERSUSK two than that, but I don't feel so strongly about it. 1110 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,199 If you want to put it a little bit above that, maybe not, 1111 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,399 maybe not more than one spot above it though, hang on here, I'm 1112 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,800 pulling up. I've talked about this before on the show. This is a 1113 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:28,079 good opportunity to actually bring it up. Uh. This is the other Walls 1114 01:16:28,119 --> 01:16:30,000 girl that I have hanging on my wall in my home, because I have 1115 01:16:30,039 --> 01:16:33,960 that, you know, the Felicia one from the comics right behind me there. 1116 01:16:34,119 --> 01:16:38,600 But this is the cover from that game that you just mentioned, Dark 1117 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:44,199 Starker's chronicled the Chaos Tower for PSDA. I have a giant two foot by 1118 01:16:44,359 --> 01:16:46,560 like four foot walls girl of this hanging on my wall over there, and 1119 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,840 it's absolutely gorgeous. I love this artists from my favorite artists. Um, 1120 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,279 I think I think, yeah, I wouldn't even put that high. I 1121 01:16:56,279 --> 01:16:58,079 think I would put out like nine or ten. I think that, I 1122 01:16:58,079 --> 01:17:01,039 mean the cap might be going lower. We'll see. All right, well 1123 01:17:01,359 --> 01:17:03,600 you know what, let let's see how do you do this? No, 1124 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,560 we just invented cap con versus us in K three, y'all. I always 1125 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:14,359 just copied Dasis crap because I don't know how you got Then I just delete. 1126 01:17:15,079 --> 01:17:18,319 There you go there like I'm perfect. All right, enough a capcom 1127 01:17:18,359 --> 01:17:23,880 for a hot second here, because I gotta I gotta bring up Smash now. 1128 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,239 I was a pretty big Smash Brothers, a melee guy those are the 1129 01:17:28,279 --> 01:17:30,720 only actual tournaments I ever went to. Nothing big, but I did go 1130 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:35,159 to a couple Smash Brothers melee tournaments. They didn't get immediately knocked out in 1131 01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:39,439 at least one of them. Um, but gosh, this was the game 1132 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,359 that, you know, me, my brothers, my friends would play almost 1133 01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:45,479 every day for a while. We all kind of picked our mains and just 1134 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:50,159 had an endless amount of fun playing each other. Something about just the way 1135 01:17:50,199 --> 01:17:55,159 this game feels a giant improvement over the original till sixty four version. It's 1136 01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:58,439 just still like a fun, good start this just since there's a content there 1137 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,319 were a lot more characters. Um, really surprisingly decent single player offerings. 1138 01:18:02,359 --> 01:18:05,960 Even just the challenge mode was a lot of fun. I loved how kind 1139 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:11,319 of almost seriously the game took itself like. He had these really dramatic orchestral 1140 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,319 arrangements of songs that were sort of very good I heard of for Nintechno properties 1141 01:18:15,359 --> 01:18:18,960 at the time, right, really cool stages. Yeah, this was like 1142 01:18:19,319 --> 01:18:23,439 this. This was my everything for a good while. So Super specif Ability 1143 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:29,039 is just one of my favorite games ever, let alone fighting game. And 1144 01:18:29,319 --> 01:18:32,479 I'll kind of say at the same time, like Ultimate it's obviously also just 1145 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,319 really really good and in many ways a more refined game like those are the 1146 01:18:35,319 --> 01:18:38,800 two Smash Bros. Games worth talking about, Like, I think we may 1147 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,840 we might be all agree on this one. Super Smash Brothers Ultimate might be 1148 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,199 the best fighting game package of all time. Yeah, in terms of what 1149 01:18:45,279 --> 01:18:48,159 you get, I wish, Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. 1150 01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:51,760 I mean, especially if you get all the dalc like all their games do 1151 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,239 specific things better, like you know, the sense story mode and everything like 1152 01:18:56,279 --> 01:18:58,760 that. But in terms of like if you just want stuff to do, 1153 01:18:59,399 --> 01:19:02,479 Smash All is still just on top. But that's so that's my thing. 1154 01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:08,560 We're gonna really put two Smash games on here. I could, I could 1155 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,199 see it for now. I don't think both stay, but I think we 1156 01:19:12,279 --> 01:19:15,039 could put both on for now. Yeah, because even like Ultimate, it's 1157 01:19:15,079 --> 01:19:17,399 probably at this point a better game. Somebody told me which one are you 1158 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,760 gonna play? It's Ultimate? I think, I think, yeah, No, 1159 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:26,199 I'm the same way Melee is special to me, but Ultimate is the 1160 01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:28,960 better one. And all right, you know what, you know what the 1161 01:19:29,039 --> 01:19:31,359 chat is losing their minds over this, So I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. 1162 01:19:31,399 --> 01:19:34,079 I promised, people I would. I'm gonna give the rant, Mike. 1163 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,880 If you think Smash isn't a fighting game, you're out of your goddamn 1164 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,920 mind, because what else is it? You canna say, Oh, it's 1165 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,479 a party game, like what you rolling dice and moving board game pieces. 1166 01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,800 No, it's a fighting game. Or even still having that conversation, I 1167 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,760 thought we were all like so passive people who think they're cool on the internet 1168 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,800 like to have this. Yeah, but here's the thing, here's the thing. 1169 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,520 Think about this way. I'm just gonna put all y'all in the ground 1170 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,560 with this one. If you think Smash is a flying game, then you 1171 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,840 must think Mario Kart isn't a racing game, because why you got items, 1172 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:11,359 you got platform, you got a crazy traversal. What suddenly suddenly easy? 1173 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,039 Like Mario Kart is't a racing game? Like? No, like it, 1174 01:20:15,039 --> 01:20:17,199 it's a racing game, smashes a flying game. It's just Nintendo spin on 1175 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:24,640 simple as that easy. Anyway, Why don't we so put like I would 1176 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,760 put like Melee high or an ultimate lower at least maybe right now? I 1177 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:33,079 don't know, Okay, like Melee so much? Um disagree? Give me 1178 01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:38,560 numbers. I'm feel I'm feeling like five, six, seven spots. All 1179 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,600 right, give Melee five and Ultimate seven for now? How about that? 1180 01:20:42,119 --> 01:20:48,720 Oh, you know like Melee High, I didn't. I don't like nostalgic 1181 01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:53,760 speakings of you don't like that. I think, I think if we're looking 1182 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,479 at I think, if we're looking at this list as the best games, 1183 01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:01,159 I think Ultimate goes higher than Melee, but by like one spots. It's 1184 01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:06,279 a big see against the package. It's the package, baby, I know, 1185 01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:11,800 but Melee is Melee. I know it's almost obnoxiously like noxious at this 1186 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,520 point that people still cling on the Melee in a way. But I mean 1187 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,159 it's incredible, it's influential, it's still a fun game to play. I 1188 01:21:18,199 --> 01:21:23,399 don't blame tho those lives. It's gonna be an a part where I'm like 1189 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,439 gonna feel bad having two entries for any franchise because there are there are the 1190 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,920 whole series. I would probably one to see you presented. But here you 1191 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,640 go ahead, Now, what's something you're thinking about? All right? I'm 1192 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,119 thinking I'm thinking we should rapid fire a few of these, just like, 1193 01:21:36,199 --> 01:21:40,399 yeah, make some more headway here. Um, let's just talk about the 1194 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:46,520 three D Fighters on the whole um, so techn Soul Caliber and Virtue A 1195 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:51,720 Fighter as the primary ones. Yeah, I mean I Virtual Fighter was like, 1196 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,359 it's definitely a mount maybe more Mount rushmore one for me. I like 1197 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,439 a Virtual Fighter two back in the day on my Saturn. Virtual Fighter five 1198 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,000 was obviously the kind of a big deal for me. The three D fighting 1199 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,920 game is sol Caliber two. Yeah, I think, I mean, I 1200 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:09,279 think Nick's can have a stroke if we don't at least mention Virtual Fighting though, 1201 01:22:09,319 --> 01:22:12,039 which yes, also very good. I think it's very good also, 1202 01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:15,600 but I've always I generally liked Sol Caliber more. I think it's gotten a 1203 01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:20,680 little wee bish and the lower installments, but yeah, they lost their way, 1204 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:27,079 like with five especially. Yeah, two two is still kind of the 1205 01:22:27,119 --> 01:22:30,960 perfect three D fighting game for me. I think it's so much fun. 1206 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,079 It's got a great roster it. I love how each version has a little 1207 01:22:35,119 --> 01:22:40,680 extra character in it, and obviously playing as Blink in the Gameki version is 1208 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:45,319 super fun, really cool single player mode actually with lots of stupid little lord 1209 01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:47,119 dumps that I'm all about. The presentations just great. I mean, the 1210 01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:51,960 original Soul Colburn Dreamcast also very good, but two is just that a bit 1211 01:22:53,119 --> 01:22:57,880 better. M that is still the fighting game, the three D fighting game 1212 01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:00,720 for me. And you know, it's like it's like it is a game 1213 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,039 you can actually give to a friend and they can button mash into Okay, 1214 01:23:04,039 --> 01:23:09,199 they will do things and but obviously if you really know what you're doing, 1215 01:23:09,239 --> 01:23:13,520 you can do some fun combos and you can link some stuff together and get 1216 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,439 kind of nuts. Um. I think we shouldn't at least mention the tech 1217 01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:26,119 and games, and I think I think for pure representation, I think currently 1218 01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:30,520 at the bottom is where I would put it simply because me and Mike don't 1219 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,600 have love for it. So hey, right, if on your list you 1220 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:38,199 wanted higher, that's on you. But I think I think Tech and Three 1221 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:45,239 you can't overstate how influential that was. That was literally something that people don't 1222 01:23:45,239 --> 01:23:47,359 think about this anymore in terms of a lot of fighting games. People were 1223 01:23:47,359 --> 01:23:53,159 buying ps ones to play Tech and three at home. Like, right, 1224 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,800 it was very big when it came out, and it still holds up like 1225 01:23:57,079 --> 01:24:00,720 very well. And I know I'm not teching guy when like I have played 1226 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,520 a bit of Tech and three recently actually played it on the Police US a 1227 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,760 classic and I get it. I absolutely do get it. I want to 1228 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:11,800 play more tech in. I feel bad not being as into that series as 1229 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,680 I am, but you know, right now I can almost I probably I 1230 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,720 care about that or Alive as much I care about Thick, and I won't 1231 01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,239 do that to anybody. I'm not gonna put that Alive three on there also, 1232 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,199 you know, actually a very good game. But yeah, we won't. 1233 01:24:25,239 --> 01:24:28,279 We won't do that. But Tech and three mid Beetle Squeak in. 1234 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:33,920 We'll see where running out of room? Yeah, and I will. I 1235 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,800 do want address this because you just played it on stream. Tech and seven 1236 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,439 very good game. Flawed game, I would say, And I think even 1237 01:24:43,199 --> 01:24:45,880 the people who play it competitively and everything, we'll tell you that as well. 1238 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,359 Like it's it's a little off in some ways. It's still a very 1239 01:24:48,399 --> 01:24:53,880 good game overall, but people, it's more about the content in Tech and 1240 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,560 seven. As Banda Namco, you know they make Smatch as well. They 1241 01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,800 know how to put content content on there, like, but I think Tech 1242 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:05,840 and three is I don't know, there's something about that and I like classic 1243 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:11,000 fighting games, and Tech and three still feels interesting in a way that seven 1244 01:25:11,079 --> 01:25:15,880 kind of doesn't. All right, before there's a couple other things. I 1245 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,640 think, Mike, we might to get here, and honestly, one that 1246 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,399 I'm not really all that huge on by I think you're a fan of we 1247 01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:29,760 should talk about is Killer Instinct. Oh? There it is, Yes, 1248 01:25:30,079 --> 01:25:38,760 Mike, I know you like your Killer Instinct. Did I break you? 1249 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:45,199 You just bring it in number three? Number three can't be at number three. 1250 01:25:45,239 --> 01:25:47,399 I don't even care. I like a fine kid. It's both of 1251 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,760 our lists. Bring it, bitch, bring it buzz go. I will 1252 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:55,439 fight for this. I will fight for them. What it's with you and 1253 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,199 Jeff Like, it's not good enough? It's on the list. You have 1254 01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:02,439 to have it as high as possible to look it's very good. I'm fucking 1255 01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,840 with you. I would think at least below ultimate is where I would put 1256 01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,880 it. Like, I know, that's fine, it's fine. I mean, 1257 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,680 I get it. People do like it a lot. I don't like 1258 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,000 here. I hope they make a new one. It's a fun game. 1259 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,399 I hope they do too. Yeah. Okay, So for anyone who doesn't 1260 01:26:17,399 --> 01:26:20,560 know, if you're out of the upa Killer Instinct, um, you know 1261 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:25,039 it's a smaller game because it's originally intended as like an Xbox live arcade game. 1262 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,000 It doesn't have a ton of content, but they absolutely like put some 1263 01:26:29,119 --> 01:26:35,800 in over time there's This game is still, in my opinion, the most 1264 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:43,439 fun fighting game to play because it does something that basically no other fighting game 1265 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,720 does. In this way, you are always playing the game. You were 1266 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:51,800 never sitting there just taking a combo to the face. You can combo break, 1267 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:56,279 you can counter break, There's so many things you can do on the 1268 01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:00,520 defense. You're always playing. It's always hype, not even mentioning, you 1269 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:04,319 know, the musical ultra combos of this game, in particularly Killer in Sining 1270 01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:08,399 twenty thirteen, is what we're talking about, to be clear, the musical 1271 01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,560 ultras the like you know, putting in random ask characters is fun too, 1272 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:18,119 like Rash the battle toes in here so good like And if anyone disagrees, 1273 01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:21,600 I'm just gonna say this, it's because you probably haven't tried it. You 1274 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,560 probably haven't been like I'm not like, I haven't played a ton of it. 1275 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,840 But this isn't some weird opinion of Sean's like inside the fighting game community 1276 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,439 of like, which I have some exposure to not but to Sean, this 1277 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,199 is not a bizarre opinion. The people who like no, no, and 1278 01:27:35,279 --> 01:27:40,600 they speak barely very highly of this killer instinct. Um, let's talk about 1279 01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,840 a couple of series that aren't on here yet, maybe actually Developer because we 1280 01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,960 don't have anything from Art Systems right now. That's good because they were the 1281 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,680 next ones on this like a list of games that I have where yeah, 1282 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:57,000 like Guilty, Gear, Blaze Blue and Persona would be like the big ones. 1283 01:27:57,359 --> 01:28:00,800 It's just a question of like which ones of each would you know? 1284 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,800 Beyond that, yeah, that is kind of and like there's a part of 1285 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,199 me. It's like I like all of them, like some of them a 1286 01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:09,920 good amount. I don't know if any of them are my top ten, 1287 01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:14,640 Like if one would be, it would pe Persona for you know, ULTIMATEX 1288 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,680 or whatever. Partially because I mean, you know, well, you know 1289 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,119 it is like a lots of those games, but characters that I like a 1290 01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:26,479 right, even though even though there's something kind of bizarre about just how uh 1291 01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,560 uh sort of not graphic novelly. What do we call that when the video 1292 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,399 game is mostly a story with with pictures and work I mean, yeah, 1293 01:28:34,399 --> 01:28:36,920 no, no graphic novel. Yeah, basically yeah said, why did I 1294 01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:41,920 think there's no where? Yeah, it's very graphic novel for a fighting game. 1295 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,000 There's a lot of text and stuff, but it's so fun. Um, 1296 01:28:45,039 --> 01:28:48,319 I don't know. Yeah, we're saying I was looking forward to chat 1297 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:54,359 Chat was there to help me through much. That sounds like. That sounds 1298 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,359 right as I don't think grapping novels, right, But you're saying it is. 1299 01:28:58,199 --> 01:29:01,800 Um, you know, I like is Blue like Guilty Gear, Dragonball 1300 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,159 Fighters was good. That's the thing. That's the thing. We didn't mention 1301 01:29:05,239 --> 01:29:13,119 that, and that's the thing. Dragonball Fighters I think at least deserves consideration. 1302 01:29:13,279 --> 01:29:16,039 Yeah, you think that's the one. I think if we're gonna represent 1303 01:29:16,119 --> 01:29:19,920 our system works, that would be the one. And I say this as 1304 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:25,119 someone who does like Guilty Gear a lot. I played Exert, I played 1305 01:29:25,159 --> 01:29:31,399 Strive Dragonball Fighters, like man, that game is gorgeous. That game looks 1306 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,439 better than the show a lot. It looks really cool. It's a really 1307 01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:41,720 slick fighting game too. It gave us the Marvel versus Capcom people wanted when 1308 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:47,119 Marvel Infinite let everyone down, right, that's exactly right. So I'm well, 1309 01:29:47,159 --> 01:29:49,960 before we even do that, because there's a couple of things. Yeah, 1310 01:29:50,039 --> 01:29:53,840 what about Mortal Kombat. We haven't talked about Mortalkombat. That's the thing. 1311 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,760 Yeah, we need to talk about MK. Uh here let me put 1312 01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,479 let me I think we agree that if we put in our acis we put 1313 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,239 a big dragon ball fighters. Yeah. Uh, I'm you know me, 1314 01:30:03,279 --> 01:30:05,800 I'm a boomer. So when I think Mortal Kombat, like, my favorite 1315 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:09,760 is Ultimate Mortal Kombat three. That's kind of the one of me because that's 1316 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:15,239 sort of the no punteted ultimate version of that original idea of Mortal Kombat trilogy 1317 01:30:15,359 --> 01:30:18,159 is like the most content I was. I was gonna say, it's either 1318 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:23,680 it's either UMK three or its trilogy. I think um K three has a 1319 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:27,920 better focus because it isn't trying to do as robot smoke and he blows up 1320 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,039 the planet. Um. You know. A lot of the new more combats 1321 01:30:30,039 --> 01:30:35,880 are also very good. At the MK has love nine. People love nine, 1322 01:30:36,199 --> 01:30:39,279 and that was a big deal. It was really kind of brought that 1323 01:30:39,319 --> 01:30:44,159 back again. It has smoke. So yeah, here's the thing, if 1324 01:30:44,199 --> 01:30:47,520 we were to if we were consider a modern one, I wouldn't say nine. 1325 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:54,640 You're a ten guy. I m K X is a very good fighting 1326 01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:58,920 game. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, Nick, 1327 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:02,880 you did tell me about uh yeah, I mean, look, I like 1328 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,800 them all eleven, just the story mode didn't get me as much. UM 1329 01:31:08,119 --> 01:31:11,880 and the best guest characters though, I think, yeah, and like that. 1330 01:31:12,279 --> 01:31:14,039 There you go. You got that side of things, now I got 1331 01:31:14,039 --> 01:31:16,600 the R side. It didn't feel great to play competitively, like I hear 1332 01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,439 that from the friending game community. It felt off and I played a combo 1333 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:25,880 breaker theory came out and I dropped it like very shortly afterwards because I just 1334 01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,560 like, distilln't feel distilln't feel good. I don't like the way they went 1335 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:33,600 too far with the variations being tied to like clothing and stuff. It was 1336 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:40,159 very weird. Um, So if we if we want like just one on 1337 01:31:40,199 --> 01:31:44,880 there, it is UMK three nine or X Yeah, and I'll vote u 1338 01:31:45,079 --> 01:31:50,520 K m K three. I'll just do that. That was pick. If 1339 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,760 I had to pick one from Yeah. As much as I love X, 1340 01:31:55,039 --> 01:31:59,560 I think it would be nine if we picked to myra one just because I 1341 01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:01,720 try us the mk hads and I liked the game a lot as well, 1342 01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,119 So I guess it is just do we do we think three or nine is 1343 01:32:05,119 --> 01:32:12,359 the better representative to put up here? I would argue nine, because if 1344 01:32:12,399 --> 01:32:19,399 we're talking like still feels good to play the older mks do feel kind of 1345 01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:25,119 jank a little. I guess I like that Janko bit. Again, there's 1346 01:32:25,159 --> 01:32:29,399 definitely an nostalgi effector with those those old ones for me. You know, 1347 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,640 we have a lot of modern fighters on this list, we have a lot 1348 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,520 of old fighters on those. We have more old fighters than new fighters. 1349 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:40,439 This would be the oldest I think actually actually maybe Vampire Now it'd be older 1350 01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,920 than Vampire Saver. Baby, umk, yeah, it's around that time. 1351 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,560 If well, no, because Vampire Saver is nice. We're doing that one 1352 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:54,720 specially that's ninety seven. Them three might actuallyuly wow. I mean, look 1353 01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,720 at the list Mike, we have. We have like a two thousand and 1354 01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,319 two thousand and like two thousand and one. Two thousand and one is two 1355 01:33:00,359 --> 01:33:05,319 thousand and one. I still want to we'll combat three for now. Since 1356 01:33:05,359 --> 01:33:10,560 you got your killer in stickpick, maybe we can defer him. Okay, 1357 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,720 okay, I'd be wanting to do that, but again, we don't know 1358 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,680 he's gonna make it. We have to figure it out. Are you thinking, 1359 01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:20,640 well, I don't get you out of maybe ten? Actually? Sorry, 1360 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:26,079 Teck and three. Yeah. Yeah, it's just we're just not teching, 1361 01:33:26,359 --> 01:33:29,520 uh bros. Really yeah, well, I just don't think tech. 1362 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:30,560 I don't know. Maybe techn makes it though. Maybe you could put it 1363 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,439 at nine and tech and could be ten, I don't know. Or you 1364 01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,640 could put tech and at nine. We'll figure out. I think we put 1365 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:40,479 you m kid three and nine because I think, again, sorry to attacking 1366 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,000 people, Tech and three might be the least likely to be on this list 1367 01:33:44,039 --> 01:33:48,560 on our list. To be clear, we'll see uh kills yells throughout just 1368 01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:53,600 a few more before maybe we'll look at the community. And so just before 1369 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:59,720 today, I always heard about how much people like Guru Mark the Wolves where 1370 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,720 Wolves of London, uh, and he was just playing it, like I 1371 01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:06,359 get it. People call it S and K's Third Strike, and I immediately 1372 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:10,920 picked up on that vibe. Yeah it's it's not it's not the gameplay, 1373 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,000 but like the vibe, the vibe exactly. So I was enjoying it a 1374 01:34:15,079 --> 01:34:17,399 lot. I don't know if I played it enough to be able to say 1375 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,560 it's better than Teck and three or something like that. It is really good 1376 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:26,119 though, and you know, we don't we don't have a p S and 1377 01:34:26,199 --> 01:34:29,640 K game on the list. We do not know, we do not I 1378 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,279 think, and we have cap Versustan K two party is like if we did 1379 01:34:32,359 --> 01:34:34,600 have one, maybe it would be that. I mean, you know what, 1380 01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,680 maybe I would put it up with Teck and three. Actually I don't 1381 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,239 know. Here's my thing. Here's my thing, Mike. I don't know 1382 01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:45,600 enough by S and K games to put one on this list at all. 1383 01:34:45,119 --> 01:34:51,680 Yeah, you're so, I'm thinking as sad as it is, maybe just 1384 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:57,800 no S and K because like kof thirteen is probably the one I would put 1385 01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,760 on there if I did. And again and I just haven't played enough too 1386 01:35:01,239 --> 01:35:03,960 to speak on. I've just never been using Kay guy, I was probably 1387 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,319 a bit of King of Fighters and ninety eight not too long ago, and 1388 01:35:06,399 --> 01:35:12,520 it was it was fun like usually the ones people will go to. Yeah 1389 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,119 right right, I know the ones people do generally say, you are here 1390 01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:20,800 the best point gary on that consideration list. Just from my benefit, sure, 1391 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:25,359 absolutely on there. Oh look, Jeff Grubbs just said he made art. 1392 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,359 What is this that Jeff grubb has made? I'm not I'm not sure. 1393 01:35:28,359 --> 01:35:30,560 I want to bring it up and me only have it. It didn't 1394 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,760 it didn't work anyways, So that's okay, it's the leak. Oh no, 1395 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:43,960 it works. Gloribo in nineteen ninety four. I incredible. All right, 1396 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:48,000 everybody buy your Global hoodies. Thanks, Thanks, Jeff. I hope 1397 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,800 you're having a nice big You're probably still driving Gan. I don't know what 1398 01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:58,439 you're doing hereby get your Gloribo hoodie on the game mess store link on the 1399 01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,000 description beloff. Yeah, hey, Jeff, what's your favorite fighting game? 1400 01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,000 I wanted to say she Fighter two so I can call him a boomer. 1401 01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:08,720 You have to don't know what fighting game is? No, he doesn't. 1402 01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,640 He gets he's you know, he's old. He'll get confused and tired. 1403 01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:20,239 Um let me see. Yeah, outside of like other honorable mentions like two 1404 01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:26,840 is actually yeah, I would Yeah, Yeah, I love Parson. You 1405 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:30,439 know what I'm putting at the bottom, Yeah, put it there for now. 1406 01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:32,079 It's good enough that a lades as. There's the honorable. The worst 1407 01:36:32,119 --> 01:36:35,159 part, the biggest problem Powerston two is that it's too freaking hard to play 1408 01:36:35,279 --> 01:36:40,399 now. It's shocked like like that on something. Give me a break. 1409 01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,520 Poor Powerstone two over to switch. For the love of god, what's up 1410 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,800 with skull girls? I never really played that much to you skull Girls fan 1411 01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:54,039 care about it? Still? Girls is interesting because it basically is like a 1412 01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:58,079 Marl versus Capcom game. Is that style of game? Have you never play 1413 01:36:58,119 --> 01:37:01,479 it, you might not know that it's interesting. It's very interesting. But 1414 01:37:02,279 --> 01:37:06,159 that's also one of those where I haven't played enough to really, you know, 1415 01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:10,920 get into it in any meaningful way. I think, though, if 1416 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:15,439 we're getting to that area, there are some that the community picked out that 1417 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:19,199 I think are at least worth mentioning. So let's hop on over here. 1418 01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,960 Let me see. Do you need to like reform at this a little? 1419 01:37:23,039 --> 01:37:29,079 Maybe? Oh stretch it, baby, you only just like move the window 1420 01:37:29,239 --> 01:37:31,439 over because I think that might work. Yeah, fair enough. As long 1421 01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,920 as we get like the beginning of everyone's submissions, I'll just do this. 1422 01:37:35,039 --> 01:37:41,079 There you go, well behind? So hey, perfect, okay, So 1423 01:37:41,359 --> 01:37:44,720 let's start at the top. Showed you, Kodo, says a Marvel versus 1424 01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:48,079 Capcom to. Benji also says Marvel versus Capcom too. Hey, we got 1425 01:37:48,319 --> 01:37:54,159 good news for you guys. Yeah right, mister Buller says soul Caliber two 1426 01:37:54,239 --> 01:37:57,359 is probably why I played the most outside of Smash while we got communess right 1427 01:37:57,399 --> 01:38:02,079 there too. Jet Chat Banks brings down the entire conversation by saying TGA twenty 1428 01:38:02,199 --> 01:38:06,239 nineteen Fighting Game nominee Jump Force, to which I say, no, no, 1429 01:38:06,399 --> 01:38:10,840 sir, no, thank you. I will say shout out to jump 1430 01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,560 for us for Gameia floor Hire on Trivia Tower at that one time. But 1431 01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:19,159 that's the only remember that now. Yeah, Giggy, my guy coming in 1432 01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:24,800 with the Vampire Savior, the Lord of Vampire, which yes, and he 1433 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:28,840 has its lovely little gift of Felicia just out landing Enrico's head. I love 1434 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:38,680 it. Uh x x Boppenheimer x X, says Seafoo. So can I 1435 01:38:39,399 --> 01:38:43,239 I get it? I get it. It's money who who? Yeah, 1436 01:38:43,239 --> 01:38:49,960 okay, I'm seeing who's um Ray says street Fighter Alpha three. Yeah yeah, 1437 01:38:50,119 --> 01:38:55,760 I respected, I respected. That's probably not Make three. I would 1438 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,399 just so much more rather played Third Trike. And I know they're not necessarily 1439 01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,119 like that similar, they're similar enough. I like Third Strikes Vibe more. 1440 01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,640 Yeah, they're in that vein of like faster paced Street Fighters for sure. 1441 01:39:06,319 --> 01:39:15,119 Um Squirt Russell, thanks casual. Uh nominates tech in tag tournament to we 1442 01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,319 you. Addition, the only gamer dress up the Misha Mos as Mario and 1443 01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:25,239 Luigi Mike incredible. I have to admit I was very salty about Tech and 1444 01:39:25,319 --> 01:39:30,119 tact Treament one for a long time because I was very upset about the Places 1445 01:39:30,199 --> 01:39:31,880 To two when it was launching, because even before it launched, it was 1446 01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:35,840 clear that it like was going to kill the game out of the Dreamcast's upset 1447 01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:42,119 about that and tech A Tag Tournament one just looked graphically so much worse than 1448 01:39:42,199 --> 01:39:45,239 so Caliber on Dreamcast. It bothered me so much. I would get so 1449 01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:50,479 mad. I was a guy screaming about the jaggies and everyone's fun like, 1450 01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:56,960 I don't care. It's not fair. The Dreamcast is there so much better, 1451 01:39:57,039 --> 01:40:00,800 man, I still love mine. Raw Party says not thing. I'm 1452 01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,359 fighting games, but Street Fighters six is probably my favorite. Hey, there 1453 01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:10,000 you go. It is is breaking through in the mainstream, So gay respect 1454 01:40:10,079 --> 01:40:15,479 him. Jay, who I recognize that profile picture is beef Hammer says God 1455 01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,239 damnit, Sean, I have to throw away my joke. Is no one 1456 01:40:17,319 --> 01:40:21,479 real killer in the same twine, thirteen games would lose the cred we built 1457 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:25,319 up with the FTC if we forget it. That's right, he uh. 1458 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,800 He originally said he doesn't have it here. He originally said Persona four Arena 1459 01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:34,199 and then changed it to the joke answer of Melti blood actress again current code 1460 01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:42,319 before clan Killer instinct always delightful Beef doctor Ryan, who is still wandering why 1461 01:40:42,399 --> 01:40:49,720 did they buy that Zoo street Fighter? I watched that end today, I 1462 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:55,239 was in tears. Uh. Street Fighter three third Strike is the best fighting 1463 01:40:55,279 --> 01:40:58,960 game ever made. I think me and Mike would agree. There's certainly an 1464 01:40:59,039 --> 01:41:02,760 argument to be made there. Soul Caliber four is coming from Alex who points 1465 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:09,079 out that as Darth Vader and Yoda, which and star Killer and star Killer 1466 01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:14,359 the most the Apprentice the most important character, four is definitely the best of 1467 01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,840 all the post soul Caliber two and yes, oh yeah by far, like 1468 01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:23,840 even six, which plays very well. Four. I think was also very 1469 01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:27,279 salty that soul Cover three was a Placation two exclusive. Boy did that pis 1470 01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:31,800 weird choice? That was a very weird I was very upset about. But 1471 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:36,479 yeah, I think we definitely like two more. Uh. Sister Classic Clink 1472 01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,800 says, if you're going to include an anime fighter, it might as well 1473 01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:43,319 be the best one. I'm Persona for Arena Altimax, which you know, 1474 01:41:43,399 --> 01:41:45,720 I'm Mike, you know I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna at least 1475 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:50,239 honorable mentioned for arena. I think I need deserve getting a surprising amount of 1476 01:41:50,279 --> 01:41:55,399 love from Chat Like maybe I don't know. It's good. They're persuading me. 1477 01:41:56,199 --> 01:41:59,920 They're persuading me to want to consider that more so than Dragonball Fighters. 1478 01:42:00,039 --> 01:42:05,000 We'll see, we'll see. Um let's see where we're we cranted some basketball, 1479 01:42:05,039 --> 01:42:09,279 says UMK three is probably the best moral con or probably the moral combat 1480 01:42:09,359 --> 01:42:13,239 that makes the list right. Well, you would agree with Lenny cool Diick 1481 01:42:13,319 --> 01:42:15,359 den Verse says, I'm a Garo Mark of the Wolves, pervert and I'm 1482 01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:18,079 tired of hiding. Don't worry, I get it, man. That was 1483 01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:20,520 real. I was really enjoying just playing a bit of that game. It 1484 01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,520 was a lot of style, it was a lot of fun. I'm just 1485 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:28,560 like immediately curious to kind of learn some combos and learn some of these mechanics. 1486 01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:33,479 I wasn't quite rocking yet. Funny game, definitely fun. Jack EEG 1487 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,159 says, I'm not really a funning game guy, but I spent so much 1488 01:42:36,239 --> 01:42:39,960 time on Teching five back in the day. Haven't returned to me a long 1489 01:42:40,039 --> 01:42:42,119 time. But I'm certain, I would still love it. Now, what 1490 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:46,479 else are considered the good tech ins episode? It's five? Like yeah, 1491 01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,560 if people are saying what is the best tech and they will say three or 1492 01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:55,479 five? Okay, interesting? Yeah, I think three is just like if 1493 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:59,880 we're talking about tech in we would say three because it's, um, it's 1494 01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:03,199 more universal amongst both the casual acts or something impressive about it being that good 1495 01:43:03,319 --> 01:43:11,279 on the original PlayStation right yeah yeah, um. Big Tony says Bloody Roar 1496 01:43:11,359 --> 01:43:14,439 two, which, hey, I respect, but I have a Bloody Roar 1497 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,239 game for game que but it's the one with a subtitle you get remember a 1498 01:43:17,319 --> 01:43:23,520 pursuit turns it to a bunny interest in game. Uh, sleepy Dad says 1499 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,920 Marvel versus Capcom three, which hit at the perfect time for them in college. 1500 01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,279 Uh, that came out around the same time for me, so I 1501 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:35,560 definitely respect that choice. As we discuss at the top, UMBC three or 1502 01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:40,119 Marvel two are both like very eligible would be on this list. Uh. 1503 01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:44,520 Punished Rose says Blaze Blue Cross Tag Battle, which hey, you know are 1504 01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,359 a good game as own, right if you're gonna look at the r w 1505 01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:50,359 By characters or whatever, the Ruby characters, Yes, yes, it is, 1506 01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:55,920 and I love it for it because I love Ruby. That's the game 1507 01:43:56,039 --> 01:44:00,560 that's right, Tool one or whatever. They say, No can keep track 1508 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:03,520 of all those uh fud Sachs says Power Stone, which we just mentioned a 1509 01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:10,479 little big. Dugan says is not a new one. Dugan says cowards and 1510 01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:14,560 puts in Star Wars Masters a Terrace. Cossie. There you go. Jeff 1511 01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:18,319 rubs actual favorite fighting games. Yes, absolutely, yeah, with Thuk and 1512 01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:25,000 Horror that's it. Horror, Yeah, Mara Jade of course. Yeah, 1513 01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:31,359 all the stars are here, everybody. Kassau says. Smash Ultimate joins the 1514 01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:36,840 debate, and it certainly did earlier on EVO. Janis says WW have No 1515 01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:43,239 Mercy, which quite the type of game we're looking for. But fighting games, 1516 01:44:43,279 --> 01:44:45,840 like I do, consider that its own John refers everything. Even though 1517 01:44:46,039 --> 01:44:51,439 obviously very close to fighting games, fighting game adjacent wrestling are just sort of 1518 01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:55,399 their own things. It is sort of its own thing. But even then, 1519 01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:59,479 like I wouldn't actually take Eddie fighting game over some of these, all 1520 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,880 of these. Scream Man puts one in here. I actually did see this 1521 01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,439 one earlier and it's a little longer by I'm going to read this quickly, 1522 01:45:05,359 --> 01:45:09,399 he says it may not make our top ten, but I want to give 1523 01:45:09,399 --> 01:45:13,880 a show to them's fighting herds, the ultimate don't judge a book by its 1524 01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,800 cover game. I bought TFH Morbid Curiosity in twenty twenty and shockingly loved it. 1525 01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:23,760 Amazing necode, a satisfying fighting system, a fighting game RPG, hybrid 1526 01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:27,239 story mode, and dynamic music where it changes based on which character is winning 1527 01:45:27,319 --> 01:45:30,279 are some of them. Many reasons why this is my personal faifying game. 1528 01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:31,880 So, Mike, if you're not aware, this is the game that originally 1529 01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:36,760 started as like a my Little Pony fan fighting game, and then they got 1530 01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:40,520 the season desist from Hasbro so they had to turn into its own thing. 1531 01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:46,039 It's a good story because like they got like the artist from MLP to like 1532 01:45:46,079 --> 01:45:49,840 do original designs for them and everything. It's actually really cool and scream Man 1533 01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,319 is right. I see Christian backing and stuff over in the chat there, 1534 01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:59,159 like this, are you Brownie? Not even remotely? And that's why I 1535 01:45:59,359 --> 01:46:02,560 checked this out Morbid Curiosity after seeing the documentary on how it was made, 1536 01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:06,640 because my favorite like um FTC channel, did documentary on it. I was 1537 01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:14,439 like, really that the pony game and then I played it and it is 1538 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:18,199 very fun. Mike is actually a very fun game. Uh yeah, I 1539 01:46:18,239 --> 01:46:21,439 want to say real quick, because the people in chat are upset that wrestling 1540 01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:26,239 games the count of smashbars count, all right, wrestling games officially count, 1541 01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,079 and we are not including any. Yeah, does that make you feel better? 1542 01:46:34,079 --> 01:46:39,000 Versus row two thousand and sixth of the game rules. Seffroth himself is 1543 01:46:39,119 --> 01:46:45,239 nominating the game he's in Super Smash Bars Ultimate A Sasquash Crossing says Moral Kombat 1544 01:46:45,319 --> 01:46:47,319 Too because I'm old and used to play it in the arcade. Man, 1545 01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:51,159 I mean that was such a big deal, just like I remember going to 1546 01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:55,640 an arcade and seeing Mortal Kombat Too for the first time. It was like, 1547 01:46:56,279 --> 01:47:01,760 I don't know why that felt important, especially after especially after all the 1548 01:47:02,079 --> 01:47:06,399 hearings and everything surrounding Moral Kombat. Like you know, you go and see 1549 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:11,159 MK two, like what is this all about? And it is just it's 1550 01:47:11,159 --> 01:47:15,159 a step up from one. Like back then, the digitized graphics looked incredible. 1551 01:47:15,359 --> 01:47:18,680 CRT Reptile was playable. I like, there's there's more than one girl? 1552 01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,760 Is that even allowed? Oh they got rid of the other girl? 1553 01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:27,279 Never mind, you know, it's good stuff. Uh Uh, Okay, 1554 01:47:27,399 --> 01:47:32,159 miss THEO who frequently gives me crap for my choice of video game wife, 1555 01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:39,520 who's uh coming out with a banger here? Nominating Dead or Alive one and 1556 01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:43,920 she leads with it's not why yet think I sort of guys, it's not 1557 01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,880 what it looks like. To paraphrase a little bit here, she says that 1558 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:53,439 it feels like a Virtua Fighter Light in terms of difficulty to spose complex in 1559 01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:58,479 some ways it is the Virtual Fighter engine, right. Um, I don't 1560 01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,560 know how this works because it's different companies, she says, the same arcade 1561 01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:05,880 board. So I assume there's some Yeah, I assume that's legit. I 1562 01:48:06,199 --> 01:48:12,239 don't know too much about this, actually you'll say for sure. Uh, 1563 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,119 and goes on to say, you know, like the series got kind of 1564 01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:20,279 weird, but the first game was first game not that perfect? Is that 1565 01:48:20,359 --> 01:48:25,079 what you're insinuating? It's like, you know, Py Light, Oh, 1566 01:48:25,239 --> 01:48:30,000 we got jiggle physics right up, showing you a character's ass and they're ending 1567 01:48:30,079 --> 01:48:32,279 like that or a Life three Mike. We get to the point where I 1568 01:48:32,319 --> 01:48:38,039 can't remembers when I just watched Max's playthrough of it, did her Alive six? 1569 01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:42,920 I think just straight up has the youngest characters getting attacked by tentacle monster 1570 01:48:43,279 --> 01:48:46,159 in the story mode. It's just like they just they knew and they just 1571 01:48:46,359 --> 01:48:49,479 went for it. And we're not get respect. When you say youngest character, 1572 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:55,119 you mean youngest, but legally the character who is exactly eighteen and nine 1573 01:48:55,199 --> 01:49:02,800 day older. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. He Zipsis says, can't 1574 01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:09,000 believe asn't been said. All right, But Fighters Mega Mix which features of 1575 01:49:09,159 --> 01:49:15,119 course the Hornet, the Daytona car. Fighters Mega Mix rules again another kind 1576 01:49:15,119 --> 01:49:17,239 of beautiful mess of a game. But all these virtual fighter characters, all 1577 01:49:17,279 --> 01:49:21,600 these Fighting Vipers characters, Sonic the Fighters, and then just weird things like 1578 01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:29,439 the hornet from Daytona, like the Sega Am two Palm Tree logo. God, 1579 01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,319 this was a really fun game. I had a lot of good times 1580 01:49:32,359 --> 01:49:35,760 with this. It's maybe a little almost a little too silly to make the 1581 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:42,800 list, but it is such a fun game. I will always stand Fighters 1582 01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,680 Mega Mix apps. It's very dumb, but it's like a dumb the best 1583 01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,319 it knows it's dumbed too. It knows what it is, and it's great. 1584 01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:53,760 Dan Parks says, Tech and seven is the reason we have the mock 1585 01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,359 or a good ass tech end. This might be the last year at EVO 1586 01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:58,720 for it, so it will be a culmination of everyone's hard work or a 1587 01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:02,119 past eight years. Terms of quality, Uh, tech and seven has it 1588 01:50:02,239 --> 01:50:06,279 all, which shouts to Tech and seven. I think it is a good, 1589 01:50:06,399 --> 01:50:11,439 well rounded package. It's just the fighting I think least some to something 1590 01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:15,239 I'd be desire for. Serely scuttle button techonadio. People seem happy or people 1591 01:50:15,319 --> 01:50:17,279 skeptical. What are people making? Mixed? People are mixed. I think 1592 01:50:17,359 --> 01:50:21,279 they like it overall, but there's some concerns about more meta stuff, like 1593 01:50:21,359 --> 01:50:26,479 the net code isn't a huge step up. It seems like it's just the 1594 01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:30,800 improved version of Tech and sevens which was not good. So we'll see all 1595 01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:35,800 that turns out. But I think in general people are excited about Technadian generally 1596 01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:42,000 speaking. UH Carl Manger says, air guys, I need a Diablo like 1597 01:50:42,119 --> 01:50:48,880 in my fighting game. Oh God, bless the ring ye Bay seven characters. 1598 01:50:49,079 --> 01:50:53,960 It is yes, very prominently featured. Ogto says, I suck at 1599 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,960 fighting game, so casual to the cater to the casuals. I nominate nid 1600 01:50:58,039 --> 01:51:06,399 Hog or Samurai on the bad Guy from Final Fantasy fourteen Heaven's Ward correctly acclaimed 1601 01:51:06,399 --> 01:51:10,880 expansion. I here it is. I've never heard of a Samurai Gun by 1602 01:51:11,199 --> 01:51:18,159 nitog Samurai Gun either. Yeah, Buggadillo says Saturday Night Slam Masters that Capcom 1603 01:51:18,359 --> 01:51:24,119 wrestling game from Apparently I'm bad at picking out dates from the nineties, so 1604 01:51:24,199 --> 01:51:27,880 I want to say the mid nineties for this mid nineties, probably not early 1605 01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,239 nineties. It was it was a Super Nintendo game, so I had to 1606 01:51:30,239 --> 01:51:33,279 be something. I never really played much of this, which is weird since 1607 01:51:33,319 --> 01:51:38,560 I like wrestling and I like Capcom. I just heard about the sequel, 1608 01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:41,359 which I didn't even know exist because it is only in arcades and it's just 1609 01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:45,319 much more of a straight up two D fighting game with less kind of wrestling 1610 01:51:45,359 --> 01:51:49,720 stuff, although it's still there. Uh. Tokyo Game Life says Bariki one 1611 01:51:50,399 --> 01:51:56,920 never heard of Apparently you attack with the joysticks? Is that what we're doing? 1612 01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,960 Got him? Vision forty nine says I'm only half joking when I say 1613 01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:06,199 the dual mode on the Xbox and PS two parts the Revenge of the Sith 1614 01:52:06,319 --> 01:52:12,880 game. I do remember that having a versus fighting game thing. Not making 1615 01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:16,159 a list but shout outs. Um hosp says that they're just gonna throw out 1616 01:52:16,279 --> 01:52:20,680 arms and run away, which good, try, good try. J D. 1617 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:25,319 Camp says A Fight Night Champions, the slow mo chaos shouts with the 1618 01:52:25,399 --> 01:52:29,960 sweat flying off never gets old. I never again, I don't. It's 1619 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,239 like boxing games aren't the first thing come to my mind, the best actual 1620 01:52:32,319 --> 01:52:35,600 like boxing game that's not punch Out, which isn't that's definitely not a fighting 1621 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:40,479 game. But like remember a Fight Night was fun, not Fight Night. 1622 01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,239 Ready to rumble, righty rumble, righty rumble? Yeah, I like right 1623 01:52:43,359 --> 01:52:46,199 rumbo definitely making it. But it was fun. Yeah, Rumham says Smash 1624 01:52:46,279 --> 01:52:49,239 Ultimate which isn't just a party game, but Doubles is the one if you 1625 01:52:49,279 --> 01:52:56,399 use items, I'm sus fuck off Bench said, so you've been playing that 1626 01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,199 Street Fighters six items mode, Sean, huh, because it's so much where 1627 01:53:00,239 --> 01:53:02,119 fun when you play in items right? Oh yeah, but you played all 1628 01:53:02,159 --> 01:53:05,760 the time. I bet you can't get enough of that having the bulls charge 1629 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:10,199 in it's so fun and wacky. Can't get enough fun? Yeah that's what 1630 01:53:10,279 --> 01:53:12,640 I thought. No, I played the default mode. As I played the 1631 01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:15,199 default mode and Smash weird how that works, right, you shut the hell 1632 01:53:15,279 --> 01:53:21,399 up. Next thing, Bench, Jac the Youngster nominag super Smash Flash two. 1633 01:53:23,279 --> 01:53:29,319 Oh that's cute. That's adorable. Good good try Bench shoutouts to running 1634 01:53:29,399 --> 01:53:33,119 that on your high school or middle school computer. Jeff grupp I said, 1635 01:53:33,119 --> 01:53:35,520 and chat that Rocky he is great in a fighting night and he's correct. 1636 01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:41,000 I played that Rocky game. What Yeah, well I had on Xbox. 1637 01:53:41,079 --> 01:53:43,960 That's a good game. That came was fun. Sucks shit you such ship? 1638 01:53:44,159 --> 01:53:48,279 Yeah, I've been told. Matt Rare Monkey says Oscar one twenty percent. 1639 01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:53,840 The cool thing is when the super par hits one twenty percent slowly drains 1640 01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:56,119 and you have iffinite supers during this time. Oh that's like an S and 1641 01:53:56,159 --> 01:53:59,920 K game when you go into like yeah max mode or whatever. Yeah Max 1642 01:54:00,079 --> 01:54:12,159 Man, uh sleeve mc dick exactly, Sleep mcdickle. Is that my name 1643 01:54:13,159 --> 01:54:17,960 is this sleep? Sleep Sleep at Austin they changed the name. Whoever you 1644 01:54:18,119 --> 01:54:27,399 are says Champions. Look, they're not a serious person. Drew Man says 1645 01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,680 fighting games aren't my jam. However, I did play Solcober two because Link 1646 01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,880 was in it, and that's definitely saying. That's influence on a lot of 1647 01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:39,680 people. Uh Pickman woolf five says, please, for the love of God, 1648 01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,680 put a teching game on there. Mike seems like someone who hates tech 1649 01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:47,039 In for no reason. Just you you, you've learned what it was because 1650 01:54:47,079 --> 01:54:50,800 I liked Virtual Fighter like Sega, and I resented tech In for a while 1651 01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:54,760 because of it. And BRODDI speaking, we do sadn't play a lot of 1652 01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,479 tech In. So hey, at least we're giving our shout out to tech 1653 01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:01,000 and three somewhere see Prono bounce, says Garo, Mark of the Wolves s 1654 01:55:01,079 --> 01:55:05,119 and K's response to thirds right that argue looks, sounds and plays better mmmm 1655 01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:09,800 also being more bounds. Also, I will say that at this moment, 1656 01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,880 I will actually feel worse than not having Garu than tech and three on the 1657 01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:16,399 list. I would actually say that. It's because I think I'd give you 1658 01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:20,319 that one. It's like representation just from what I've seen it. I don't 1659 01:55:20,359 --> 01:55:23,079 know, but we'll see, all right, well, we'll see. We're 1660 01:55:23,079 --> 01:55:29,359 almost done here, Uh Garu, where Wolves of London? You know? 1661 01:55:30,359 --> 01:55:36,399 Ller six ten says tech and three Please DMC depressed me crying says Smash sixty 1662 01:55:36,479 --> 01:55:40,640 four, The only smash where Kirby is good. They have a Kirby avatar 1663 01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:44,039 for the audiolist. Kirby is well. I forgot, I don't know what 1664 01:55:44,199 --> 01:55:46,920 where the pets were. Kirby wasn't terrible and for an ultimate was he? 1665 01:55:47,039 --> 01:55:50,199 I don't know. I liked playing as Kirby in those least. Yeah, 1666 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:56,000 Wong Gifts says, is, of course the lames a rob fighting game Arm 1667 01:55:56,239 --> 01:56:00,079 Joe. What, oh my god that Voles Jean versus the police, On 1668 01:56:00,199 --> 01:56:02,039 Valjean versus the police. This has to be like a meme or something. 1669 01:56:02,119 --> 01:56:08,479 There's no oh my god there, It's like some jankass Arxis game from like 1670 01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:13,039 two thousand and one. Change. Men like me can never change, he 1671 01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:20,199 says, just kidding to the law, you have no rights. Come with 1672 01:56:20,359 --> 01:56:25,920 me too for six so one. Now the wheel has turned around. Jean 1673 01:56:26,079 --> 01:56:30,520 Valjean is nothing. Now there you speak to me of crime and the price 1674 01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:35,880 you have to pay. Every man is born in sin. Every man must 1675 01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:42,479 find his way. You know nothing of javert. I was born inside of 1676 01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:46,600 jail. I was born with scum like you. I am from the cutter 1677 01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:51,439 too. But but but now in that song you're supposed to house you're so 1678 01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:55,760 thank you. This just to have Jean Valjean singing his bit too, and 1679 01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,920 I need a Jean Valjean to do this with me. So well, guess 1680 01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,680 well, I'm not fucking nerd mic, so I can't do that for you, 1681 01:57:01,279 --> 01:57:04,439 he says, just saying I've never played this. It's Marvel versus Capcom 1682 01:57:04,479 --> 01:57:10,319 two, which one's because of character selection and music. It's always always be 1683 01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:16,439 Corgi nominates Project Justice get some rival schools series representation. My rival schools Project 1684 01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:20,119 Justice Knowledge isn't like vast. I've played a bit of them and do like 1685 01:57:20,279 --> 01:57:25,880 them, but nothing crazy same that that's not why I played at Galloping Ghosts 1686 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,520 and Talk Yeah, that's where I played. That's where I played it too. 1687 01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:32,399 Yeah. M and Goldie says Rival Schools and also Oscar one twenty percent. 1688 01:57:33,399 --> 01:57:39,279 ENUFE nominates Debt or Alive Too Ultimate for the OG Xbox or Debtor Alive 1689 01:57:39,359 --> 01:57:42,840 four for the three sixty, which I hear are both good, fine games. 1690 01:57:43,079 --> 01:57:45,159 I've seen that like Combo Peck of Debt or Live one and two Ultimate 1691 01:57:45,239 --> 01:57:48,199 on Xbox. At first, I was like, oh, maybe I could 1692 01:57:48,199 --> 01:57:50,840 just have three and that's fine, But now maybe I'll had to pick one 1693 01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:55,479 and two up. Also, sir meat, while it brings up a game 1694 01:57:55,479 --> 01:57:58,520 we haven't even mentioned yet, I will say Samurai Showdown. Yeah, I 1695 01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:00,600 was gonna ask about Samurai Showcase. Yeah, but you go ahead. What 1696 01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:04,279 did they have to say? Or Garo Marketables? So I think if we 1697 01:58:04,399 --> 01:58:08,600 put an S and K game on there, it would be Garo between the 1698 01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:13,079 two because sam show is just it's niche, like a game where you basically 1699 01:58:13,319 --> 01:58:15,000 like you when you die in like you know, two hits. It's like 1700 01:58:15,119 --> 01:58:17,960 it's gonna be niche, but it's cool. I don't like it, Like 1701 01:58:18,119 --> 01:58:23,560 when that lady did her Super movement she got naked during it. There's a 1702 01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,520 screen, so you know, you know, I mean Dan already put one 1703 01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:28,840 in here about it. I'll just say, oh, yeah, I know. 1704 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:30,119 I shadn't my opinion, all right? Able to listen to the bass 1705 01:58:30,159 --> 01:58:33,840 guitar in the NVC two Carnival stage, which I won't play here because it 1706 01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:36,920 might break things, but yes, we knows. Well, yeah, all 1707 01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,880 right, people wouldn't hear anyways from your computer. I would have to play 1708 01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:45,000 it. Uh no, they're okay, they're here. Um, here's the 1709 01:58:45,079 --> 01:58:48,479 thing. Yes, we got to finalize this list. Yeah, and here's 1710 01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:55,960 my thing. Yeah, it's it's so tough. I feel bad about their 1711 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,640 being two Smash Bros. Games, but we're kind of an impass because I'm 1712 01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:01,199 not gonna allow Melee to be taken off the list. I don't think you're 1713 01:59:01,199 --> 01:59:08,479 gonna allow Ultimate to be taken off the list. That's kind of an impast 1714 01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:13,600 there. Yeah, Ultimate is just too good. It is too good. 1715 01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:17,399 But like it would not it would not be a list I took part in 1716 01:59:17,439 --> 01:59:20,000 if Melee wasn't on it, Like I feel that strongly about it, right, 1717 01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:27,199 it'd be weird to me in a way. Um, which one of 1718 01:59:27,279 --> 01:59:30,479 the ones that aren't on there? Do you want to put on the most? 1719 01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:39,720 I would say, I'm just gonna say it right now, I'm gonna 1720 01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,680 make executive decisions. Three Fire six, I'm just gonna say, too recent, 1721 01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,279 going considerate. Plus it just kind of gives us it out on that 1722 01:59:45,479 --> 01:59:48,119 because it is good, right, Yeah, so that to be clear, 1723 01:59:48,239 --> 01:59:51,199 Me and my me and Might both loves love. It's fantastic. I'm traveling 1724 01:59:51,239 --> 01:59:54,600 to freaking Las Vegas to play three First six. Yeah, I love that 1725 01:59:54,680 --> 02:00:00,079 game. Um person for a rene um not quite. I'm not quite feeling 1726 02:00:00,159 --> 02:00:03,159 that one, okay, And the same with Powerstone two Parston two, we 1727 02:00:03,239 --> 02:00:08,159 are like, okay, interesting. I mean, I'll tell you I kind 1728 02:00:08,199 --> 02:00:13,199 of want Grue to get on the list a bit. It's really good. 1729 02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:17,720 I think it'd be a shame. I think it makes us our list look 1730 02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:21,640 a little unserious without a straight up s m K game on there. And 1731 02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:32,560 I think Aru's the best of them, I of the little I've played of 1732 02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:39,319 both Teken and Garo. Because here's the thing, here's the thing, Mike, 1733 02:00:39,359 --> 02:00:45,319 I would actually say Dragon Ball Fighters overall over both of those. Yeah, 1734 02:00:45,359 --> 02:00:46,119 I mean, look, I get it. I just I don't know. 1735 02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:55,159 My enthusiasm is only so high for that one, which I which I 1736 02:00:55,239 --> 02:00:58,239 understand because you haven't really liked. Yeah, you are writ in terms of 1737 02:00:58,279 --> 02:01:00,600 like we there should be an art System game on there as Yeah, and 1738 02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:04,159 I just feel like that's the one, even though it's basically a Marl versus 1739 02:01:04,239 --> 02:01:09,960 Capcom game, Like it can't be understated how big Dragon Ball Fighters was, 1740 02:01:10,239 --> 02:01:13,000 right, And then I also feel, yeah, then I feel bad about 1741 02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:16,520 tec In All right, let let's okay, let's let's run down the list 1742 02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:19,720 really well. Hold On had Haunt let's run down list for the audio listeners 1743 02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:25,359 real quick. Yeah. From one to ten, we currently have Street Fire 1744 02:01:25,439 --> 02:01:29,600 three, Third Strike, Marvel Versus, Capcom two, Super Smash Brothers, 1745 02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:33,520 Ultimate, Killer, Instinct twenty thirteen, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Soul 1746 02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:40,399 Caliber two, Capcom Versus s and K two, Vampires Savior, Ultimate, 1747 02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:47,199 Marl Ultimate, Mortal Kombat three, and tech In three. There's is there 1748 02:01:47,359 --> 02:01:53,279 any way I could talk you into letting Melee just be the Smash Brothers representative. 1749 02:01:54,399 --> 02:01:57,760 No, Ultimate, I can't. I can't do it. I just 1750 02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:00,680 can't even do it. It's it's in playing with You don't even care about 1751 02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,560 the game. Clear, you don't even play it for real, Like, 1752 02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:06,239 why do you care? It's insane to me that anyone would make a list 1753 02:02:06,319 --> 02:02:12,960 where there is a Smash game and you don't include Ultimate because of again, 1754 02:02:13,159 --> 02:02:23,800 the package. You really obsessed with packages. Um, okay, I think 1755 02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:29,199 maybe we should get rid of Ultimate Mortal Kombat three. Actually I don't know 1756 02:02:29,359 --> 02:02:32,520 a moral Kombat there. I don't know if it's as important as Grue anyways, 1757 02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:41,520 Like this, this sign up rules. This feels so weird to me 1758 02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:45,279 to say, yeah, I'm okay with a Mortal Kombat not being on here. 1759 02:02:45,439 --> 02:02:49,840 Yeah, Mortal Kombat's always been more and I know it's been better about 1760 02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:54,720 that recently. It's been a little bit flash over substance. It always has 1761 02:02:54,760 --> 02:03:00,039 been. So I think we're in agreement, like either nine or ten and 1762 02:03:00,239 --> 02:03:08,159 feels like the ones that we don't super care about Ultimate Ultimate Moor Kombat three 1763 02:03:08,359 --> 02:03:11,840 or tech In three. I somehow feel worse taking tech On off than Mortal 1764 02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:16,560 Kombat, even though Mortal Kombat three means so much more to me. Yeah, 1765 02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:19,239 I think if we, like, if someone went back, I think 1766 02:03:19,319 --> 02:03:24,239 they would find more to like in tech and three if they actually got into 1767 02:03:24,319 --> 02:03:28,119 it, rather than Mortal Kombat. Yeah, I think Mortal cart three. 1768 02:03:28,279 --> 02:03:30,560 I think you had to be there. I don't think anybody's to play Mortal 1769 02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:34,119 Kombat three now and appreciate it. All Right here, I'll we'll go over 1770 02:03:34,199 --> 02:03:39,119 this for the audio listeners, but let me rearrange things a little bit here, 1771 02:03:39,159 --> 02:03:46,880 And how does how does this feel to you? This list of ten? 1772 02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:50,800 Like if we if we take UMK three off, put Garo on at 1773 02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:59,199 the bottom, and then tech In sticks around at nine, that that looks 1774 02:03:59,239 --> 02:04:01,600 pretty good to me. It looks like it looks like an US leaning list, 1775 02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:03,520 which, hey, it's our list. We get the right to do 1776 02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:09,479 so. But I think it's a good list. I think it's a good 1777 02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:14,520 list. Okay, yeah, I like The one thing I want to ask 1778 02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:19,319 about is how do you how strongly do you feel about CVS two? Not 1779 02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:24,359 that strongly. I could go lower, but it stays on the list. 1780 02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:28,039 Oh, I say thet Okay, if it's staying on the it's staying on 1781 02:04:28,119 --> 02:04:30,800 the list. I think that's fine because as much as I love the Dark 1782 02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:36,560 Stalkers series, I recognize that Vampire Savior being at like eight is like probably 1783 02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:40,840 where it deserves to be. Yahause he's about right to me because it because 1784 02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:44,279 like it's it's in part there because of my love war, but also like 1785 02:04:44,399 --> 02:04:47,439 in part influence. I think that feels right all right. So then how 1786 02:04:47,479 --> 02:04:54,279 do you feel about the order here? Generally? Pretty pretty good to me? 1787 02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:58,359 Actually, I mean I think it's like generally good, you know, 1788 02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:01,199 or being that high as that that's your just I could I can move I 1789 02:05:01,279 --> 02:05:05,920 can move it down. I could move it down a little, but it 1790 02:05:06,199 --> 02:05:10,359 is an if you know, you know situation, yeah, plus it you 1791 02:05:10,439 --> 02:05:14,520 know, then it looks nicer having the two Smash players games separated separated by 1792 02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:18,279 something. Yeah, something some work there. Uh. Dan park is pointing 1793 02:05:18,319 --> 02:05:21,520 out Visa is in there because the Midwest show and you're not wrong. Uh, 1794 02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:27,720 Mike, I don't know if you know this. The the Vampire Savior 1795 02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:33,760 Capital of the World is in Ohio. What that's where everyone gathers from around 1796 02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:40,479 the world for their like world championship. Where in Ohio it's at one of 1797 02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:45,520 the arcades. I can't remember or something like that. Yeah, someone in 1798 02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:49,760 cham might know. But that's right, Since that's right, base will be 1799 02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:55,560 another state as far as I'm concerned, so far away, okay, Um, 1800 02:05:56,399 --> 02:06:00,399 I'm just looking at once over I think in general just looks good. 1801 02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:04,279 Yeah. Again, you know a Mike and Sean leaning list by a good 1802 02:06:04,319 --> 02:06:08,680 list over all right, all right, we're locking in then rheing it off 1803 02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:13,520 for the audio listeners, we'll go to bomb the top one more time. 1804 02:06:13,880 --> 02:06:17,319 Number ten is Garo Marcola, Wolves, Number nine is Tech and three, 1805 02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:24,359 number eight Vampire Savior, Number seven, Capcom Versus Asking K two, Number 1806 02:06:24,439 --> 02:06:29,159 six Soul Caliber two. And the top five we have number five Super Smash 1807 02:06:29,199 --> 02:06:36,000 Brothers, Meller Theatri Alone, Number four Killer Instinct, twenty thirteen, coming 1808 02:06:36,039 --> 02:06:41,439 to your home only on Xbox one, Number three, Super Smatch, Blarsultimate, 1809 02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:45,880 Number two, Marvel Versus Capcom two, and number one, Street Fire 1810 02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:48,640 three, Third Strike. That's our list. We're sticking to it, and 1811 02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:51,000 if you don't like it, you can go make your own. This is 1812 02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:55,439 a competent chat. I said, a great list for casual fighting gamers and 1813 02:06:55,560 --> 02:07:00,840 that is just so passive, aggressive, incredible. Oh yeah, I think 1814 02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:03,600 it's a good list. You know too. Yeah? Hey if if if 1815 02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:10,319 two Smash Brothers bothers, you just imagine one of them's gone into Ultimate ball 1816 02:07:10,359 --> 02:07:15,840 Fighters. Yeah, girls, getting girl. Ah yeah, I like it. 1817 02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,199 I have to play all these games. We did good, Mike, 1818 02:07:18,279 --> 02:07:21,159 we did good. Yeah, and um this guy's I saw street Someone could 1819 02:07:21,159 --> 02:07:24,800 play about the Street Fighter two again. So again it feels good for me 1820 02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:31,760 to say this for once Boomer. Uh oh, Jeff Grab say, do 1821 02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:34,720 you even know who Cassandra Kate is? And I tell you about this Sean 1822 02:07:35,119 --> 02:07:39,640 No. Yeah. Like when we were playing Backgroub, but it was like 1823 02:07:39,800 --> 02:07:43,840 there's some bad girls, like who's this backgirl? I thought Barbara Gordon was 1824 02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:49,119 backgirl and he would try like obviously that's Cassandra Cage. Yeah, I laughed. 1825 02:07:49,199 --> 02:07:51,920 Then there's like some comment like, well, these guys don't even know 1826 02:07:53,079 --> 02:07:58,279 Cassandra. Kate is uh, they're there's such a main street batman and I'm 1827 02:07:58,319 --> 02:08:01,960 like, what is he? What is the opposite of a household name? 1828 02:08:01,319 --> 02:08:05,479 You know? Because that's what I can say. Kane is all right, 1829 02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:09,720 everybody, We're gonna take one last short break. We'll get back, We'll 1830 02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:11,119 talk a little bit about some games we've been playing. We'll wrap up here. 1831 02:08:16,920 --> 02:08:22,760 Alrighty, we are back. Sean, what have you been playing? 1832 02:08:24,439 --> 02:08:26,560 Would you believe it? Whole lot of street fires six? There you go. 1833 02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:31,560 You're doing that rashid life. Oh hell, no, fucker shit. 1834 02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:37,319 I've been playing manon I mentioned, I mentioned to you and Christian when you're 1835 02:08:37,319 --> 02:08:41,079 talking about the r night. But um, she feels sort of like that 1836 02:08:41,359 --> 02:08:43,720 Laura role, the Alex role, that like highbread rappler, sort of like 1837 02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:46,960 doing our things. So that the h that's who I've been playing. Well, 1838 02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:50,399 you danced around her a little bit. But I am going to EVO 1839 02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:54,079 next weekend. That's in part while we're doing this is because you know Evo's 1840 02:08:54,119 --> 02:08:58,720 coming up next weekend. Make sure to watch everyone. I might there's the 1841 02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:01,720 smallest possibility I might have a streamed match, so I'll tweet out if I 1842 02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:07,119 do. Okay, uh, if I win my first match, I will 1843 02:09:07,159 --> 02:09:13,359 get to play against Foodo, one of the best fighter players in the world. 1844 02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:18,600 Oh, Christian, I'm gonna fucking die man. Bro No, don't 1845 02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:22,039 worry, Bro, you gott You're gonna get it. Yeah, my my 1846 02:09:22,239 --> 02:09:28,359 platinum No and telling me all the way to go. I could be in 1847 02:09:28,399 --> 02:09:33,439 the tournament. Yeah, your invited there once invite. Yeah, they won't 1848 02:09:33,439 --> 02:09:35,560 believe it when they see my lily. I rest. You haven't played in 1849 02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:39,199 a couple of weeks, but yeah, uh but yeah, that's been taking 1850 02:09:39,239 --> 02:09:41,319 up a lot of my time a single player wise. Uh, you know, 1851 02:09:41,399 --> 02:09:43,800 I play. I beat Tears of the Kingdom not too long ago. 1852 02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:48,319 We had the whole discussion that's up on the YouTube channel being right now. 1853 02:09:50,399 --> 02:09:54,279 That is where we got that isn't there. That's why those people are beating 1854 02:09:54,359 --> 02:09:56,000 it right now. Thank you, Jeff, thank you. Get some squid 1855 02:09:56,039 --> 02:10:03,319 word. Um. But the larg I've been playing was Foul Fantasy sixteen, 1856 02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:05,680 which i'd beat. I beat a while ago, and now I'd beat that. 1857 02:10:07,199 --> 02:10:13,159 Yeah, most people are beating I got, i'd be like two weeks 1858 02:10:13,199 --> 02:10:18,520 ago. Um, and it is. I have thoughts about I definitely want 1859 02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:20,600 to talk to you about May maybe we find someplace to talk about this more 1860 02:10:20,680 --> 02:10:22,680 in death. But yeah, I still need to play more of it. 1861 02:10:24,039 --> 02:10:28,079 Yeah, how far are you? Like I got? I did the freak 1862 02:10:28,159 --> 02:10:33,760 fight, not like the first you know, you're pretty early. I am 1863 02:10:33,119 --> 02:10:37,680 like, okay, it took me again. It's just I don't spend that 1864 02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:39,960 much time in my living room playing games anymore, so I gotta just kind 1865 02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:45,279 of really force myself back in there. Yeah. Um, but like you 1866 02:10:45,359 --> 02:10:48,600 know, in summary, no spoiler opinion on um, I think it's very 1867 02:10:50,359 --> 02:10:56,119 good, but it's weird. It's a lacking in some ways. Um, 1868 02:10:56,600 --> 02:11:01,159 the story is I'm just gonna say, because people maybe almost like stop talking 1869 02:11:01,199 --> 02:11:07,600 about they just like jump to it's bad. It's problematic in a lot of 1870 02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:13,479 ways. Interesting, Okay, it does because like Basy fourteen, especially the 1871 02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:16,720 layers, pansions, the big takeaway, it's just how amazing the story is. 1872 02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:22,079 So I find it a little concerning that that is not people's takeaway because 1873 02:11:22,079 --> 02:11:24,439 it's yeah, people, it's just you know, it's the same. It 1874 02:11:24,760 --> 02:11:28,840 feels like it feels like it wasn't made by them, which is so weird. 1875 02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:35,239 It feels like the story is not a creative team three or whatever. 1876 02:11:35,479 --> 02:11:39,279 It doesn't create a business unit, business unit, thank you or whatever it 1877 02:11:39,359 --> 02:11:43,079 is. It's it's three. I can't remember the world. Um. But 1878 02:11:43,239 --> 02:11:48,279 yeah, the story is messy. The gameplay is really good, and then, 1879 02:11:48,439 --> 02:11:52,199 like character action games a lot, I love character action games, and 1880 02:11:52,359 --> 02:11:56,479 that's kind of the problem with this, and um, I told this to 1881 02:11:56,560 --> 02:12:00,840 you the r night, but it feels like it's balanced like a character action 1882 02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:05,800 game, which does mean that's easy because you're supposed to show off in character 1883 02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:11,000 action games, and you know, people are used to RPGs having progressive difficulty. 1884 02:12:11,079 --> 02:12:16,880 Even in the jobber fights, it just feels like you are kind of 1885 02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:22,800 like whacking like sort of soulless puppets a lot of the time, and then 1886 02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:28,159 you're just trying to get to the big icon fights, which was a problem 1887 02:12:28,279 --> 02:12:31,680 I had for must much of the game. It gets better at the end, 1888 02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:35,560 I feel, but the problem is it's a forty hour game. In 1889 02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:41,239 character action is often good because it's you know, liking that ten to fifteen 1890 02:12:41,439 --> 02:12:45,920 hours, and so it almost feels like they made an incredible character action game 1891 02:12:46,359 --> 02:12:50,720 and then like shoehorned in the Final Fantasy story to make it a Final Fantasy 1892 02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:56,119 game and stretched out to forty hours. So I'm very conflicted on my thoughts 1893 02:12:56,159 --> 02:13:00,520 are still forming a little bit, but I think it's a very good game 1894 02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:09,239 that is weirdly simultaneously I returned to form profile Fantasy and also messy in ways 1895 02:13:09,319 --> 02:13:13,720 that fifteen wasn't. It's like a different kind of right, because fifteen's messy, 1896 02:13:13,479 --> 02:13:18,640 but fifteen's messy and a lot of we're we wear our production problems on 1897 02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:24,760 our sleeve. Kind yeah, fifteen was development hell MESSI this is problematic decisions 1898 02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:28,399 mess Okay, Yeah, yeah, I've definitely gonna try to play more, 1899 02:13:30,039 --> 02:13:31,600 try to I mean I thought in my staycation I was gonna like play the 1900 02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:35,840 rest of it. Didn't touch it. I will say, Mike, you 1901 02:13:35,960 --> 02:13:39,720 haven't even gotten to remotely the best of the Icon fights, and that I 1902 02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:43,680 think it's enough to keep your playing. I mean, they were even just 1903 02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:46,079 the starting one, right, and you know as far at this point, 1904 02:13:46,119 --> 02:13:50,159 the phoenix E free one is so freaking cool. They go full two Towers 1905 02:13:50,239 --> 02:13:52,840 with it, and I'm a fan of that. Yo, that's by far 1906 02:13:54,039 --> 02:13:58,319 the worst one. Okay, it gets good. I think it's already better 1907 02:13:58,399 --> 02:14:03,000 than the Garuda one. But if he's said, okay, uh gosh, 1908 02:14:03,079 --> 02:14:07,079 but anything else Sean No, that's basically it for me. Jesscau Street Fire 1909 02:14:07,119 --> 02:14:09,439 Sex have been taken up so much time, what you've been up to kind 1910 02:14:09,479 --> 02:14:13,520 of still a lot of Diablo four actually, just kind of was playing the 1911 02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:16,399 season, playing with my brothers, playing it to kill some time here and 1912 02:14:16,479 --> 02:14:20,239 there. But you know, it is more Diablo four. I'm still having 1913 02:14:20,279 --> 02:14:22,840 fun with that. Actually. I think one of they supposed to do another 1914 02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:28,760 developer team tomorrow because they have to explain their their patch to make sorceresses and 1915 02:14:28,239 --> 02:14:35,000 barbarians better and stuff like that. Well, situation over there, yeah, 1916 02:14:35,119 --> 02:14:37,760 the community is very much in full on we hate everything though. That's like 1917 02:14:39,119 --> 02:14:43,680 that's like always the problem Blizzard games is once you start slipping, everything starts 1918 02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:46,920 annoying those people, they're gonna start complaining about everything. Well, play all 1919 02:14:48,079 --> 02:14:52,319 Overwatch, so trust me, I know I World work Craft all the time. 1920 02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:54,359 Oddly enough, not right now. They're players, I think are pretty 1921 02:14:54,399 --> 02:14:58,439 happy they liked this expansion. So it's the world warcrafts doing Okay, Christian 1922 02:14:58,479 --> 02:15:01,479 sad word playing Rimnant too, I don't know, doesn't really look like my 1923 02:15:01,680 --> 02:15:07,600 thing. That game both looks beautiful and also incredibly boring to me graphically. 1924 02:15:07,880 --> 02:15:11,520 I mean, that's how I feel about all souls of games. I'm just 1925 02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:15,000 I'm not even getting touched this. Let's see, there's just so many things. 1926 02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:16,479 I mean, I'm also just still playing a lot of fun Fantasy five 1927 02:15:16,560 --> 02:15:22,439 and actually kind of kind of an act three on that one, which is 1928 02:15:22,479 --> 02:15:26,239 good because there's other things I want to play, even on my switch, 1929 02:15:26,439 --> 02:15:31,279 like Pickman, like Bicky Lucian Island. So yeah, it's like if ably 1930 02:15:31,319 --> 02:15:33,720 had a little break and it already feels like that's kind of at a end 1931 02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:37,000 and things are you make good games? Like when did games get good again? 1932 02:15:37,279 --> 02:15:41,279 Yeah? Right? What thecredible? All right, let's think we've got 1933 02:15:41,319 --> 02:15:46,479 a couple more super chets here. This one's from Josh P. Wiggs says, 1934 02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,479 the fuck is this? I come for Jeff Scrub and not Turbo yawn 1935 02:15:50,800 --> 02:16:00,199 weeky face like that. Uh, and then El Greg says, what games 1936 02:16:00,239 --> 02:16:03,520 with Christian put on the list instead? I'm giving money so he has to 1937 02:16:03,640 --> 02:16:07,960 talk during the main podcast. Now, Okay, come out of your hole 1938 02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:11,079 for a second. Wait what, I was distracted and I wasn't even listening 1939 02:16:11,079 --> 02:16:13,439 to this one. Yeah, give us, give us like one or two 1940 02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:16,159 changes you would make to our top tip. Yeah, I would quarterfin a 1941 02:16:16,239 --> 02:16:22,239 Nindea first. And that's it because yeah, before, before ninety eight, 1942 02:16:22,319 --> 02:16:26,720 games didn't have style, and after they all got style. All video games 1943 02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:28,760 before King of Fighters and ninety eight didn't matter. I respect it. I 1944 02:16:28,840 --> 02:16:31,879 respect the choice. All right, thank you number one. I respect the 1945 02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:35,799 choice. Thank you, Christian. All right, everybody, I think, 1946 02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:39,159 thank you, thank you. I'm gonna start wrapping it up for us. 1947 02:16:39,239 --> 02:16:43,280 Now do I have this sundstrow play in a second here, But Sean first, 1948 02:16:43,319 --> 02:16:46,559 tell everybody where can they find more of yet? You've been doing good 1949 02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:50,200 work over at Giant Bomb, thank you. Yeah. Um. Personally, 1950 02:16:50,319 --> 02:16:54,079 you can find me on the Shambling Corpse of Twitter, at Turbo Shan Underscore 1951 02:16:54,239 --> 02:16:58,200 and at most our places as Turbo Sean Shaw and I'm on Blue Sky. 1952 02:16:58,319 --> 02:17:00,639 Hey it seems like that might be where we're going, So check me out 1953 02:17:00,639 --> 02:17:03,000 there if you're on there, Um, twitterat TV slash Turbo Shan. I 1954 02:17:03,079 --> 02:17:05,479 know, like you know, some people have been missing my streams. I 1955 02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:07,760 do plan to get back to those after I get back from EVO. I'm 1956 02:17:07,799 --> 02:17:11,079 not training in street art, sex and stuff. Picked up song frontiers in 1957 02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:13,639 the Steam Summer sale, like sit, try that out. Here we go 1958 02:17:15,319 --> 02:17:18,760 and then yeah, professionally a giant Bomb. Follow us on social media where 1959 02:17:18,799 --> 02:17:22,680 I post as I've been calling them the mini Bombs, the little short edited 1960 02:17:22,440 --> 02:17:26,840 highlight reel clips I put up on Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, all usual 1961 02:17:26,879 --> 02:17:28,760 places. So check him out and share him around, really appreciate that. 1962 02:17:30,479 --> 02:17:33,280 Yeah, this is a good stuff, a new one with a backgrub in 1963 02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:37,799 his special keys, very stroke in joking. Yeah, there we go. 1964 02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:41,760 Fantastic, all right, everybody. I think I am going to be on 1965 02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:46,639 Professional Fridays tomorrow on Giant Bombs, so you know, Jeff won't be there 1966 02:17:46,639 --> 02:17:48,440 and I will, so it'll probably the best one. Yeah, I'm looking 1967 02:17:48,440 --> 02:17:52,000 forward that I'm gonna start playing this music, which Sean actually probably would' even 1968 02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:54,440 be able to hear. Willie, I thought it was already playing. Mike, 1969 02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:56,559 No, I should have played it earlier. I was like, nah, 1970 02:17:56,440 --> 02:18:00,680 sometimes I do it too late and we had to start running to finish 1971 02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:03,239 talking. So it is Oh, I think I need to hire the voluere 1972 02:18:03,239 --> 02:18:05,159 again. That's okay. You got plenty of time to tell people all the 1973 02:18:05,239 --> 02:18:09,319 things that you're up to on the internet. Well, well, we have 1974 02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:13,159 the poll glam right now for the game mess Game Club in our choices. 1975 02:18:13,440 --> 02:18:16,799 There are some game I never heard of, Uh, Super METROI with Sean 1976 02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:22,719 is excited about, and um a third game. Sean helped me out. 1977 02:18:22,719 --> 02:18:28,879 You made the poll, don't you read Sexy Brutel and then Wilds not Outer 1978 02:18:30,040 --> 02:18:33,520 World outer a wild I don't know. That's confusing. Yeah, so we're 1979 02:18:33,559 --> 02:18:37,040 not we'll end that poll at the end of the month. We're not doing 1980 02:18:37,079 --> 02:18:41,520 our discussion for return of the oberdent to a little bit later, kind of 1981 02:18:41,600 --> 02:18:43,319 start it next month. It's because Sean's going to EVO. He's going to 1982 02:18:43,399 --> 02:18:48,280 be busy. Yeah, the same thing with Jeopardy. Everybody not happening tomorrow. 1983 02:18:48,399 --> 02:18:52,319 Not happen to get the patron content. We'll get to it the week 1984 02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:58,280 of August seventh. Your boys need vacations, thanks, grab out out everything. 1985 02:18:58,360 --> 02:19:01,000 They're getting delayed. Just as watch Jeff's back to We're gonna figure out 1986 02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:07,000 that Colombo podcast the Columbos, which I as soon would just be we we'll 1987 02:19:07,040 --> 02:19:11,680 each watch, we'll watch an episode Colombo, and then we'll talk about it. 1988 02:19:11,079 --> 02:19:16,079 There we go, starting with that first Steven Spielberg directed one, which 1989 02:19:16,159 --> 02:19:18,879 is really famous. You know, this is a good chance for all of 1990 02:19:18,959 --> 02:19:24,040 you to be watching the Colombo with us, as you should be. Have 1991 02:19:24,159 --> 02:19:26,840 you ever if you watched much Colombo? Sean, I've seen Colombo. I 1992 02:19:26,879 --> 02:19:30,639 haven't watched much of but yes, I've seen in passing. All Right, 1993 02:19:30,680 --> 02:19:37,799 you just seen Colombo. I live. I lived the Columbo. I was 1994 02:19:39,079 --> 02:19:43,719 by it. I was there, I was there when the Colombo Wars happened. 1995 02:19:46,239 --> 02:19:48,760 Yeah, exactly like that. Oh, I'm tired of vamping. I 1996 02:19:48,799 --> 02:19:52,440 should have absolutely played this song better. Jeff would have done such a much 1997 02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:56,200 better job with that. Yeah, he gets things right, he has some 1998 02:19:56,360 --> 02:20:28,920 things before we like four hour Enjoy. Most people are beating right, yeah, 1999 02:20:31,239 --> 02:20:41,840 Oh, let's freaky go alrighty, let's set up this next okay, 2000 02:20:43,239 --> 02:20:48,760 alright, uh yeah, I got good again? And all right, okay, 2001 02:20:48,799 --> 02:20:52,559 oh am, I gonna do this because I have to keep you big, 2002 02:20:52,559 --> 02:20:56,879 and you have a four case screen, so as long as you keep 2003 02:20:56,920 --> 02:21:00,879 the discard window pretty good, it should be. Yeah, you have their 2004 02:21:00,920 --> 02:21:05,520 own late late layout for this No, no, no, yeah, I'll 2005 02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:07,440 figure it out. Be good enough to worry now you need just over lay 2006 02:21:07,440 --> 02:21:11,120 it over the window if you need to on top. That's rated last time. 2007 02:21:11,120 --> 02:21:18,760 It's fine, It'll be good enough. It's me Hi, Hello, 2008 02:21:18,319 --> 02:21:22,360 me Hi. Sean's the problem. It's me Yeah. Yeah, it does 2009 02:21:22,399 --> 02:21:31,120 sound like so need Sir Sean always agrees I have the right background image for 2010 02:21:31,159 --> 02:21:37,559 this episode. This is perfect, Felicia. Let's go just duplicate this. 2011 02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:46,920 Oh good god, I agreed. Doctor Mike has been good guests so far. 2012 02:21:48,600 --> 02:22:00,799 Incredible. I will the fan PlayStation All Star batteryal until I die. 2013 02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:05,479 It's a good game game. I love that. I think I think just 2014 02:22:05,680 --> 02:22:09,959 this the HP mode should have been the default. I think that would be 2015 02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:13,120 enough to set apart from Smash but I like I like that one. No, 2016 02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:16,719 I like the default that you have to use your super to kill people. 2017 02:22:16,840 --> 02:22:18,879 Yeah, like I do. Right, there's specials, but Super. 2018 02:22:20,280 --> 02:22:22,920 I was drinking so many motherfuckers with that shit. It's like, oh, 2019 02:22:24,040 --> 02:22:28,200 yeah, you're you're gonna you're using your Super. She's gonna say mine a 2020 02:22:28,319 --> 02:22:35,040 a little while, alright, see him with this good reverse course technique. 2021 02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:43,760 Microphone it looks fine. It's fine, that's not a big deal. Yeah 2022 02:22:43,799 --> 02:22:46,360 yeah, I was going in the bathroom that we can do this. All 2023 02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:52,719 right, sounds good, b RB. Everybody alright, Christians, our time 2024 02:22:52,840 --> 02:23:00,840 Shine? What the fuck likes case six? Bro? I don't know anyone 2025 02:23:00,920 --> 02:23:05,079 from that. Everybody think I hate k six. It was like, I 2026 02:23:05,239 --> 02:23:07,920 think you actually said I hate Kate six one time, like when they brought 2027 02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:11,799 him back or whatever. You're you're like, man, fuck this guy. 2028 02:23:11,479 --> 02:23:16,200 No, No, I like, it's just like they definitely killed him because 2029 02:23:18,120 --> 02:23:20,360 he wasn't like I don't know why people think like, okay, si, 2030 02:23:20,440 --> 02:23:24,799 he's like the face of Destiny, who's never like that, Oh my camera 2031 02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:28,639 is frozen? Why were my dead? Oh? Because he might click it 2032 02:23:28,760 --> 02:23:33,479 away, don't worry what Oh yeah probably yeah he probably he probably minimized discorscord. 2033 02:23:33,719 --> 02:23:37,000 Yeah yeah, all right, it's okay. Well, oh no, 2034 02:23:37,399 --> 02:23:43,719 you're not missing anything. I looked basically the same. That's that was the 2035 02:23:43,799 --> 02:23:46,600 whole thing with Destiny too. When it came out it was K six and 2036 02:23:46,040 --> 02:23:52,200 Sabala, there was like, you know, it was like they tried to 2037 02:23:52,319 --> 02:23:56,879 make the game like jokey and serious at the same time. I see ye 2038 02:23:56,079 --> 02:24:00,399 yeah. Once I was like, oh it's jokey. All the trailers of 2039 02:24:00,440 --> 02:24:05,399 Sabala were like serious storytelling shit, and all the all the K six trailers 2040 02:24:05,440 --> 02:24:11,200 who are like four world breaking jokes and stuffy? Did you minimize discorder? 2041 02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:16,799 So on? Why? Because I and yeah, I probably did do that 2042 02:24:16,879 --> 02:24:22,479 by accident. Good work, all right, I think we're ready to go. 2043 02:24:22,639 --> 02:24:26,760 That's me who realized. But it's okay, actually be if who realized. 2044 02:24:26,879 --> 02:24:30,239 But good job everybody. I didn't team effort. It was a team 2045 02:24:30,239 --> 02:24:35,360 effort. Now she sold me. Please one, all right? All right, 2046 02:24:35,920 --> 02:24:37,239 well, let's get a good pause in there for Christian and then we'll 2047 02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:41,840 get into this. Alrighty, so it shouldn't be too hard to set up. 2048 02:24:41,879 --> 02:24:46,079 It's just's gonna yeah, I'll just switch the window instead. Let's see 2049 02:24:46,319 --> 02:24:48,920 change window and then let me get the drink while you do that. Then 2050 02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:58,879 let's see how this shows up for you. Yeah, you will have to 2051 02:24:58,440 --> 02:25:03,959 it looks for comments, all right, I just crap out the address bar. 2052 02:25:03,159 --> 02:25:05,000 I'm sorry, Mac, I can't really hear you. Yeah, sorry, 2053 02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:09,319 I'm you all got to like read the suggestions from the community, because 2054 02:25:09,360 --> 02:25:11,520 oh yeah, I got those pulled up too, Okay, good cool. 2055 02:25:22,520 --> 02:25:26,159 He's on Deceney plus by the way. So if you want to have nightmares 2056 02:25:26,399 --> 02:25:31,639 with those puppets quote unquote gorgeous puppets, I mean I feel like I feel 2057 02:25:31,639 --> 02:25:35,399 like you're just speaking from a point of not liking puppets at all. No, 2058 02:25:35,920 --> 02:25:41,200 I'm I'm okay with puppets. But this shit, this is like very 2059 02:25:41,360 --> 02:25:48,879 nineties puppet animatronic shit that is like candy fucking scary nowadays. I've never been 2060 02:25:48,959 --> 02:25:56,000 a huge puppet guy, so they've always like a little look like complex and 2061 02:25:56,159 --> 02:26:01,079 like they they seem to have lots of moving part arts now, bro. 2062 02:26:01,479 --> 02:26:03,920 Yeah, I mean they're impressive. They've always been impressive. That's what I'll 2063 02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:07,319 give them cry for. But I don't know even even some of the sesame 2064 02:26:07,399 --> 02:26:13,760 streets stuff while I was a kid, never really never really left a good 2065 02:26:13,879 --> 02:26:18,000 impression on me. Some of them creep me out a little bit. There's 2066 02:26:18,040 --> 02:26:20,879 a little bit out there, right. You can't blame beef hair for that. 2067 02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:26,280 One was funny. That's funny. Maybe just crop out the top there, 2068 02:26:26,680 --> 02:26:30,559 Yeah, absolutely no, I don't want to see your porn tips. 2069 02:26:31,120 --> 02:26:39,559 Wow. Wow, took out my bookmarks bar and everything. Uh yeah, 2070 02:26:39,639 --> 02:26:41,840 that'll be fine. That'll be fine. I'm just scroll up a little bit 2071 02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:48,079 when I'm gonna use this space below. Okay, well then so so leave. 2072 02:26:48,200 --> 02:26:52,840 Yeah, I'll leave like some below there go. Yeah, for like 2073 02:26:52,959 --> 02:26:56,399 honorable mentions and stuff. I scrolled between them. But yeah, you'd probably 2074 02:26:56,440 --> 02:27:05,399 just put this below. Look at you, you're a pro. You're a 2075 02:27:05,840 --> 02:27:09,520 obs. Now you can cans we here on look a new skill. Obs. 2076 02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:15,360 I haven't learned like Mike. I know we agreed no joke banning, 2077 02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:18,719 but I really want a band wolf for seeing that brawls the goat. Look 2078 02:27:18,760 --> 02:27:22,239 I do too. If he keeps, will warn him he's been warning. 2079 02:27:24,079 --> 02:27:28,319 That's your Zomer warning exactly. All right, let's do a pause. We'll 2080 02:27:28,360 --> 02:27:35,040 get back in here. Okay before that, are you gonna do another after 2081 02:27:35,319 --> 02:27:39,239 after this list? Can you do like another pause, like a small like 2082 02:27:39,879 --> 02:27:43,920 we've been right back after this messages or whatever. We'll do another break before 2083 02:27:45,239 --> 02:27:48,680 you. Yeah, She's do a break like and then continue. She's give 2084 02:27:48,719 --> 02:27:54,600 it a small gap, a small break out this Yeah, the good restroom 2085 02:27:54,600 --> 02:28:00,600 real quick? Actually yeah, same Christian ertain the people talk to people about 2086 02:28:00,680 --> 02:28:03,399 how you hate our list, Yeah, I tell people how good our list 2087 02:28:03,600 --> 02:28:07,360 is Oh no, I'm sick. I'm I'm I'm sniffing a lot, my 2088 02:28:07,479 --> 02:28:11,239 allergies. You made me talk now, what the fuck? I child? 2089 02:28:11,360 --> 02:28:13,319 Yeah, they made they made that. Yes, they both of them. 2090 02:28:13,559 --> 02:28:18,120 Yes man, No, no, Keen a fighter, that's my stop. 2091 02:28:20,639 --> 02:28:24,799 I would put Keen a fighter first, motherfucker. I can't change the list. 2092 02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:28,719 Listen, this is their list. I don't want anything to do with 2093 02:28:28,840 --> 02:28:31,200 this list. By the way, I don't want I don't want to be 2094 02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:35,639 This is like a crime that I don't want to be associated with this like 2095 02:28:37,120 --> 02:28:39,239 I would have. I would have picked like five of the games that are 2096 02:28:39,319 --> 02:28:46,639 on this list of ten, straight up. But yeah, whatever, it's 2097 02:28:46,639 --> 02:28:52,040 their list. They put their name on it, so I don't know. 2098 02:28:54,319 --> 02:28:56,680 If there's a god, they should be punished. That's what I believe. 2099 02:29:01,959 --> 02:29:09,959 Sorry, my my, my allergies are acting up. I rude wolves London. 2100 02:29:09,360 --> 02:29:13,159 I don't forgive the list. It's great. Yeah it's pretty good, 2101 02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:16,479 pretty good list. Well, thank you appreciate that. Got a fixed on 2102 02:29:16,559 --> 02:29:22,280 here. Good thing. Now it's gone. I look at that beer back 2103 02:29:22,319 --> 02:29:26,159 I cut too. Yeah, it has a beer back. Why don't you 2104 02:29:26,280 --> 02:29:30,319 have a d I thought you were a professional. No, I'm I'm a 2105 02:29:30,440 --> 02:29:33,719 fraud. Oh that's right, I have to I'm allert shic to bullshit. 2106 02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:39,879 Yes, wow, very cool. I don't know what you're telling they experience 2107 02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:43,479 here. I don't know. Why, what's this? Why am I full 2108 02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:48,520 of shit? I don't know. I don't know. I know I love 2109 02:29:48,600 --> 02:29:52,239 the list I was telling the child will pick everygain. Okay, I don't 2110 02:29:52,239 --> 02:29:56,440 believe you anymore. I think I think you're lying. I'm know, like 2111 02:29:58,399 --> 02:30:03,399 you know, I can't lie impossible to Jeff's asking if your hourgies are actually 2112 02:30:03,440 --> 02:30:07,920 just COVID again, No, it's I hope it's not COVID. Are you 2113 02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:13,440 like casting on a fucking maybe? We do know that Jeff has witch powers. 2114 02:30:13,840 --> 02:30:18,760 He does, Yeah, he's a I mean I think he lost his 2115 02:30:18,879 --> 02:30:24,040 powers when he cut his hair. Oh right, well this has been growing 2116 02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:26,680 back, though I think it never it doesn't come back. It's just gone 2117 02:30:26,719 --> 02:30:28,959 forever in the waters a little bit, and you know, He's like, 2118 02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:35,760 I'm gonna I'm gonna see if you like give this guy COVID. Man, 2119 02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:37,639 I'm gonna that stuck in my head better than the Patriot theme song I've had 2120 02:30:37,680 --> 02:30:43,559 stuck in my head for the last week the Patriot theme song No one knows 2121 02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:48,000 it. It's Somebud's an obscure John Williams score from some weird uh like two 2122 02:30:48,079 --> 02:30:56,760 thousand era bizarrely American patriotic movie with Mel Gibson, then by Roland Emeric during 2123 02:30:56,920 --> 02:31:05,440 his Independence Day glow. I'm pretty good at among us. Yeah that's right. 2124 02:31:05,559 --> 02:31:09,120 Yeah, you're pretty good, but not because I lie. It's because 2125 02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:15,000 I'm really good at doing the tasks. I'll learn every task really fast. 2126 02:31:16,360 --> 02:31:18,000 Matt Lhar's right, Yeah, it was like they're trying to uh, the 2127 02:31:18,079 --> 02:31:22,319 Patriot was just trying to make Brave Heart in the like a revolutionary war. 2128 02:31:22,440 --> 02:31:28,440 Brave Heart doesn't really work. But he's not very good ki go, but 2129 02:31:28,559 --> 02:31:33,040 the score it's very good and odo from start check the Space nine's in it. 2130 02:31:33,799 --> 02:31:37,799 They kill him but he's in it. Oh no, and you know, 2131 02:31:39,159 --> 02:31:43,239 yes, well he's also actually dead too, so that's that still applies. 2132 02:31:46,360 --> 02:31:54,159 We're wolves, blunder. I mean I know why that second's watching again 2133 02:31:54,200 --> 02:32:00,200 tonight. I don't think so. Speaking of musicals, taking him is a 2134 02:32:00,239 --> 02:32:03,639 cool I don't think he's seen it four times now, maybe five times. 2135 02:32:05,719 --> 02:32:09,239 I was say angry he was just watching it. Once. I can't believe 2136 02:32:09,280 --> 02:32:13,239 he watched it four fucking times? You shit did? Are you talking about 2137 02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:18,000 that goddamn movie again? Every now? Every time? Mike scene? So 2138 02:32:18,079 --> 02:32:22,520 I think about that movie, you know? All right? Righty, get 2139 02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:26,040 ohit, turn your camera back on. Ye. Okay, let's make sure 2140 02:32:26,079 --> 02:32:30,399 you're lying, by the way, before people think I'm a fade Dark Soccers 2141 02:32:30,440 --> 02:32:33,000 fan. I remember when I said ninety one, Nick, remind me that's 2142 02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:35,920 when The Street Fire two came out. So you go, there, you 2143 02:32:35,959 --> 02:32:39,159 go, No, that's not the right thing. This is the right thing. 2144 02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:48,520 Okay, you got me in the right place. He chopped your head 2145 02:32:48,559 --> 02:32:52,040 off, but yeah, double your head off. That's good enough. All 2146 02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:56,680 right, there we go. Okay, we'll do a pausible come right back, right,