WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:08.000 Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and I'm Catherine Jileco. 2 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:12.519 As parents and parenting writers, we can't help but see everything through a parenting 3 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:17.079 lens. But as our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested 4 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.960 in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm going over the same parenting 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:26.120 topics over and over. So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom 6 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:30.160 anywhere, we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we thought about 7 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:33.359 it, and maybe what we can learn from it, if only what not 8 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:37.359 to do. Watch and listen along, and let's all make like we're doing 9 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:42.560 something important for our families. Each Wednesday we bring you a watch or rewatch 10 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:46.439 of an older entertainment property. And for this week of July fifteenth, we 11 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:52.039 are continuing with the pilot of Lost. We'll be talking about part two, 12 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:57.359 the part where they go on a walk to the highest place in the island 13 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:03.600 and they encounter a polar bear, and then they find out that somebody's been 14 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:07.599 broadcasting for rescue for sixteen years and nothing has happened. So, as Charlie 15 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:15.120 says ominously at the end, guys, where are we are we we are 16 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:21.519 in a very enjoyable TV series that is just throwing stuff at the screen with 17 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:29.239 abandon. That's right. A lot happens in forty three minutes or whatever it 18 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:34.480 is, and there are, oh my goodness, so many characters. Each 19 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:40.280 of them has to have a little moment, and I thought that was all 20 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:44.079 done fairly graciously. I know these people at this point since I watched it. 21 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:48.319 You do not, but there's a lot of oh yeah, that guy, 22 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:55.319 and you know, knowing a lot more about them than they are getting 23 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:00.719 the merest of sketches right now. I mean, Sawyer is being painted as 24 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:07.640 such a bad guy, and you know, Son and Jin have their thing, 25 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:13.759 and her little unbuttoning of her sweater once he walks away is just a 26 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:19.879 little delightful character note, and he seems very controlling and awful. As we 27 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:23.280 learn about Michael and Walt that Walt's mother died and his dad has now come 28 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:27.000 to take him, but that did not work out so well because they are 29 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.879 crashed on an island. Who the heck knows. However, it does appear 30 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:38.680 that his dog survived the crash. But I did enjoy Terry O'Quinn yes upon 31 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:45.400 hearing that Walt's mother has just died, says you're having a bad Mond love 32 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:52.560 that. Yeah, a count Nina thing going on between the two of them, 33 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:59.039 Yes, lovely, But you know, Locke telling it like it is. 34 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:01.280 I don't think we've ever gotten name of Teri o'quinn's character said by anybody 35 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:07.759 yet. But his name is Locke, his character's name, and and he 36 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:12.120 needs someone to play back emmon with and Walt needs something to do, so 37 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:19.080 it does indeed. But the dog aforementioned, a dog that we discussed last 38 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:23.919 week, is in fact Walt's dog, Vincent, and we assume they will 39 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.800 soon be reunited now that Michael knows that the dog is a alive and be 40 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:30.400 in a certain part of the jungle, and see that he could get him 41 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.719 and maybe look good in his son's eyes, because so far not looking so 42 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:37.960 good. Right, So but yeah, man, that kid, Wow, 43 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:46.800 poor Walt, Yeah, oh goodness. And we get a little sketch of 44 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:52.400 Shannon is basically insufferable princess, but at least she kind of speaks French, 45 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.800 kind of speaks French. It's the parents, see how important it is to 46 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:59.159 have your child study a foreign language and never know when it will come in 47 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.560 handy. She's not speaking French like I speak French, in which case there 48 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:05.199 would be about a seventy percent chance that she was translating it wrong. But 49 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:10.840 she's got to be good for something, surely, right, other than just 50 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:14.960 you know, sen bathing nearly naked for all guys to enjoy. Well, 51 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:20.439 by my estimation, her French was reasonable. Okay, you could hear it 52 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:27.399 enough to I mean, it was hard to hear for sure, but it 53 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.560 did sound like that's what. Okay, good, good for you, Shannon, 54 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:38.560 be good for something, babe. You spent a year in Paris. 55 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:45.879 She's like, yeah, not going to class. Yeah, we can relate, 56 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:50.040 but we'll find a little bit. We've got a flashback of Charlie and 57 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:55.240 when he was retrieving from the bathroom when they went and found the pilot, 58 00:04:55.680 --> 00:05:00.920 right, and a little flashback of Kate to find out that she oh fugitive. 59 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:08.319 And even though it seemed so very much more likely that the handcuffs that 60 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:14.800 Michael and Walt found in the jungle had previously been confining either Sawyer or said 61 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:21.079 in fact, it's Kate Kate, it was a nice detail that she put 62 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:28.399 the oxygen mask on her captor well, while the plane was going down and 63 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:31.000 he was knocked out. Yes, she's got about it for a second, 64 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.879 but then she did it. She actually did it after having removed the key 65 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:41.240 to her handcuffs from his pocket. She may regret having done done that. 66 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.360 I don't know. He didn't look too good, No, he doesn't. 67 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.439 And also we got a little more of the adorable Hurley, one of my 68 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:56.600 favorite characters, or hey Garcia, Yes Hurley. It was just really to 69 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.399 a large degree, providing comic relief. And God bless him. Yes he's 70 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:09.639 he's there, supposedly helping Jack with a surgery. And then just the side 71 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:14.399 of blood, not for him, not for him. I know, I 72 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:15.560 think I could handle the side of the blood, But the side of a 73 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:19.439 piece of metal being taken out of somebody's body and blood's spurting out afterwards. 74 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:26.519 Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Yeah. And on their way 75 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:32.399 climbing, they find and Sawyer shoots a polar bear. The polar bear, 76 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:36.680 yes, in the jungle, because why not, you know what, We're 77 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:43.519 throwing stuff at the screen. And it's funny because I remember hearing that about 78 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:47.560 this show, that there's like randomly a polar bear in the Jungle. I 79 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:51.639 thought it was. I didn't realize it was going to be an episode two, 80 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:56.879 you know, I thought it was gonna be much later in the game. 81 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.800 Yeah. What are the most fun things about the show when watching it 82 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.000 the first time, when everybody was watching it the first time, is that 83 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:10.639 people were into the mystery of it and they were writing about it. There 84 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:14.720 was I think a guy named Doc Jensen, who I think wrote for Entertainment 85 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.800 Weekly, had a whole column that he would every week go into the mythology 86 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:20.759 of all this stuff and explain what this meant, to explain what that meant, 87 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:26.920 and like the Extra Hot Great Forum was full of stuff with people coming 88 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:33.360 up with really fantastic fiction about what was going on. Whether any of it 89 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:38.279 was related to what the creators had in mind, I don't know, but 90 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.839 it was certainly fun to read. And the polar Bear was one of those. 91 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.839 There were lots of theories about the polar Bear and how the polar Bear 92 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.480 got there and what the polar Bear meant. And I don't think I don't 93 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:54.000 think any of it came to fruition. I think it's just a WTF thing 94 00:07:54.160 --> 00:08:00.600 that the creators would really like us to have forgotten about afterwards, but it's 95 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:05.839 sure it was really delightful. All the stuff that people wrote, all the 96 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:11.879 creativity that this show unleashed, ultimately perhaps to no effect, right, but 97 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.319 the joy I got from reading it was real, and I think that many 98 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:20.439 people felt the same way. So, you know, and things like things, 99 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:24.519 things coming up, lots of things. There are so many things. 100 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:33.200 But you know, I think that Michael in this episode gave us lots of 101 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.360 lessons on how not to parent. You know, like, I know you're 102 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.000 new to this guy. I know you're just just parenting now that your ex 103 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:46.600 has passed. But know your kid's age would be good. It's just one 104 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:52.840 figure. It's not hard. It's probably written down somewhere. And when you're 105 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:58.320 your child is warning a lost pet, I'll get you a new dog. 106 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:03.879 I'll get you a new dog. Yeah, Walt didn't take that very well. 107 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.480 Really, Walks you're having a bad month is pretty much the best parenting 108 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:20.679 we saw, right, YEP acknowledged their feelings. That was that was not 109 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:26.799 good man, pick up pick up here. I mean, yes, he's 110 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.679 been through some trauma and he is new at this, like you said, 111 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:39.519 but yes, he needs to get it together. Pretty quick. Yeah, 112 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.840 there was. I forget how much Walter was in these early episodes. He 113 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:48.879 was really in quite a bit of this That kid I seem to remember. 114 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.919 I don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but that young actor 115 00:09:54.320 --> 00:10:00.960 was very good in this episode. I think wound up being indicative of of 116 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:05.039 the difficulty of hiring child actress for shows that are going to go on for 117 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:11.200 a while. Yeah, because they hit a growth streak in real life, 118 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:16.360 and if your show is not observing the same time constraints of real life, 119 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.759 and you expect them to come back the next season being the same agent sis, 120 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.799 it's a miracle of the Island children age faster. Yeah, yeah, 121 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:33.720 that's it. Yeah, but as of now, he's really very, very 122 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:39.399 good and very moving. So, and Claire is still pregnant, and there's 123 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:43.480 lots of people. There's lots of people. Yes, Claire's still pregnant, 124 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:48.039 and apparently the baby is coming back. I don't know she was. She 125 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.080 was very worried about not feeling the baby. The women's supposed to eat shellfish. 126 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:56.720 Is that like a thing that I heard or is that not? They're 127 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:01.360 not supposed to eat sushi like raw fish, which which that was did. 128 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.080 I don't think Jin had a high bachi. I had a little barbecue. 129 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.279 No, maybe that was the baby just going like, hey, hey, 130 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:18.200 stop it, I don't like that. My bag is this? Yeah, 131 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:24.639 but I don't think Claire's gonna take it that way. Oh my. So 132 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:33.519 that is the pilot of lost ends, with mysterious transmissions, with mysterious uh 133 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:41.799 creatures, a heck of a lot of screwed up people, yes, possible 134 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:52.639 felons amongst us. And uh although of course we were given to believe that, 135 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.279 you know, this, this marshal who was transporting case seemed to be 136 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:05.320 a very bad person, and yeah, you know, implied that no one 137 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.600 was going to believe her. Yeah when she but of course we do because 138 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.000 we already like her, right, we already liked her when we found out 139 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.639 this information, So it's right. On the other hand, boy, did 140 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.720 they go out of their way to make Sawyer look like at s ob didn't 141 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:26.639 they just there no shading on that role at the beginning. A couple of 142 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:33.000 soulful looks maybe, but yeah, they were setting them as up as the 143 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:39.720 enemy. So and I know they're all very different, but at the moment 144 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:50.639 the Sawyer and then the Australian drug Charlie Charlie, and then there's Boon, 145 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:56.519 right is the lifeguard slash step brother whatever? Yes, so those three are 146 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:01.759 a little bit hard for me to tell apart. Right now, these three 147 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:07.759 like young white guys that are supposed to be attractive, which they are. 148 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.480 I'm not saying they're not. Yes, well, well one of them has 149 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:13.600 a British accent, one of them has brown hair, and one of them 150 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:22.360 has a lot of stubble. So yeah, I'll get there. It just 151 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.559 takes. Yeah, it is definitely one of those shows where you're like, 152 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:28.919 now is that the which? Which guy is that? Who is that? 153 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:35.879 That's why it helps to have distinguishingly distinguishing characteristics. Yes, so you definitely 154 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:41.639 know SAYI to SAYID, and you definitely know Michael is Michael and Jin is 155 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.240 the guy out there speaking Korean. Yeah, so you can kind of tell 156 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:48.440 them apart. Jack is our hero, I see if it's even been called 157 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:54.840 right. So the rest of them will, over these many many, many, 158 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:58.399 many, many many many weeks, differentiate themselves. Yeah, are we 159 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:05.080 going to meet all forty eight? Some of them? There was I well, 160 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:11.440 I We'll get to it. But yes, there are there are a 161 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.519 lot of characters we are being directed to pay attention to, and then there 162 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:24.120 are people who will just exist to be killed by creatures. Right, there's 163 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:31.759 just the fodder. But anyway, that is the beginning of Loss. Now, 164 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.120 you said this made you less sick, much less? Yeah, I 165 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:41.039 except for the flashbacks of the plane falling apart, I assume, right, 166 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:46.759 But I was even able to take quick glances at that, and there was 167 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:50.919 just a little bit of running in the jungle and that. Yeah, everything 168 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:56.600 else was pretty good, pretty good. Good. Well, don't don't eat 169 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:01.840 any any shellfish. Somebody has just picked off the beach of mysterious Island and 170 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:07.120 you should be just fine, right, what could go wrong? I'm with 171 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:09.840 early in that, right, it was Darvin, But I'm not that dum. 172 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:16.080 I'm not eating that whatever it is. Yeah, they just kind of 173 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.039 took those two characters and said, we're gonna do something with gen and Son. 174 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.320 We don't know quite what yet, so we're just gonna have them off 175 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.279 in a corner not speaking English. Right, we'll get there. Well, 176 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:33.000 next Wednesday, we will continue with season one, episode three of Lost, 177 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.480 which is Tabula Rasa. We will see you back here tomorrow. For our 178 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.799 weekly Roundabout round up. Thank you for listening. You can find all our 179 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.000 episodes on Spreaker, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your 180 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.320 podcasts. You can find recaps, links, and an opportunity to comment on 181 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:54.279 our website at parentingroundabout dot com. 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