WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:15.439 The Ham Radio two point zero audio podcast rip. Thank you for downloading and 2 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.239 listening to this podcast. So basically what I do is I take all the 3 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:24.679 audio clips out of my videos and upload them to spreaker, and then from 4 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:30.199 there they're spread out to iTunes and SoundCloud and now Amazon Audible as well. 5 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:34.719 But I want to welcome you and thank you for joining the audio section of 6 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:39.679 this series on Ham Radio. I hope you enjoy it, and I would 7 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:45.560 appreciate you leaving us a comment or a review on whatever podcast service you're listening 8 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:51.759 from. Thank you in seventy three. I hope you enjoy it, and 9 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:57.640 we are live. Good afternoon. It's twelve oh one. I made it. 10 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:03.119 I made It's twelve o one, Him Radio Him Radio two point o 11 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:10.640 lunchtime live stream. So yeah, I was talking to my Brother's a big 12 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:15.079 mac head, so he would get along with Mike probably, but I was 13 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:17.280 talking to my brother. I'm just gonna tell you the short story real quick. 14 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:19.120 Talking to my brother the other day, and he got into job a 15 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:23.640 year or two ago, and they're making all the computers or windows, and 16 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.280 he likes to gripe about windows, of course, which I don't really blame 17 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:30.040 him quite frankly. But leaving that aside from the moment he was talking about 18 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:33.280 how Windows crashes all the time. I'm like, what do you talk like? 19 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.079 Literally, I have four machines, including my laptop here at home, 20 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:41.879 and I never get any crashes. Well, guess what happened ten minutes ago. 21 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:46.959 My whole system froze. The whole system froze. Uh yeah, I 22 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:52.840 had a hard reboot reset and uh obs is our restreams doing something weird where 23 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:57.040 my chat overlay is not working? I don't know. So yeah, I 24 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:00.760 should keep my mouth shut about how Windows is. I guess because he was 25 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:04.879 blaming teams Microsoft Teams for making a system crash, and I'm like, well, 26 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:07.680 Teams is not an operating system. Well it's made by Microsoft though. 27 00:02:07.039 --> 00:02:12.000 Yeah, but it sucks, so stop using it. But that's what they 28 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:19.719 use in their in their work, all right, So little right exactly. 29 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.280 Yeah, they can't hear you right now, Michael. But yes, he 30 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.240 says, don't confuse the symptom with the root cause, which is totally correct. 31 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:28.960 So special shout out to people in green text in the chat. I 32 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:32.560 saw Andy Calley in there. He was there pretty early A zero a MS 33 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:37.800 in there a C three AK, Phil W zero, hp K seven t 34 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:42.560 RD. You guys are YouTube channel supporters, and I really appreciate you guys 35 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:46.319 supporting the channel and being here today. So we got a pretty cool show 36 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:51.159 lined up for you. I did a really short video at Hampkation in February 37 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:54.319 and posted that the week after I got back about Flex Radio amplifiers and tuner 38 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:59.759 geniuses, power genius, tuner genius, and ten genius. All of the 39 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:04.080 geniuses except for the Apple Store genius. They don't sell that crud. Okay, 40 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.639 all the geniuses being so are being sold at Flex Radio now. So 41 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.719 and this whole show was Michael's idea. So I'm gonna bring you guys in 42 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:14.560 and on mutu and good afternoon. How are you guys doing. We're good 43 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:19.960 yourself. I got the system back up in time, so I can't complain, 44 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.120 you know. So. And you you were munching on all those potato 45 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:28.879 chips at the same time, right, doritos, doritos, Yeah, so 46 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.439 very true. You were slamming Windows. I'll be honest. I run Windows 47 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:36.159 on my remote at my remote station. It's sort of the core tool for 48 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.879 the remote and in running a remote since when did I start this two thousand 49 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:44.319 and five. It's never been a problem. It's been rock solid ever since. 50 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:50.800 Honestly, it's yeah, it's not it's it's not a it's it's a 51 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:54.759 pretty great I mean ever since Windows ten, Windows Windows uh, what was 52 00:03:54.800 --> 00:04:00.560 the one before not Vista Vista was crude? Windows seven. I think the 53 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.479 Windows seven was pretty good. Windows eight, I never really cared for Windows 54 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:06.800 ten has been pretty solid. I haven't gone to I haven't gone to eleven 55 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:11.719 yet. Um, generally, I waited about a year after Microsoft releases a 56 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.360 new version of Windows to upgrade, long before they sunset the old version. 57 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:20.399 But still, Steve, are you an early adopter just by design? Yeah? 58 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:26.000 Are you really? Wow? Okay, well that's cool. So okay, 59 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.480 But then, but then again, when I left the military in two 60 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:33.959 thousand and nine, m the network a network on the ship was still Windows 61 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:40.879 NT Yeah. Yeah, so you know, and my laptop I'm on right 62 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:46.279 now here in the conference room is Windows eleven. Okay, well it's working, 63 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.480 so can't can't complain with that. But yeah, I have, I 64 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:55.959 have, I have very few problems with my systems. I built this computer 65 00:04:56.079 --> 00:05:00.279 here just just for streaming, because I wanted something beefy with a lot of 66 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.000 memory and CPU power for streaming, and it's been rock solid for pretty much 67 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:05.680 the whole time. And I don't know that I'm ready to blame Windows. 68 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:11.319 I think it was I think it was either OBS or Restream that actually crashed 69 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:14.879 the system just now. I don't think it was Windows. But anyway, 70 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:17.279 moving on, we will move on. We're not here to talk about Windows 71 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:24.120 today. So Flex Radio is uh, yeah, as everything except the radios 72 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:27.639 I believe is now being sold at gigaparts, and I could pull that up 73 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:31.079 here in just a minute. But why don't one of you guys kind of 74 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:35.439 start from the beginning and tell us how that sponsorship came or that that partnership 75 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:39.720 came about, and then we can kind of dive into whatever is on the 76 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.920 agenda today. Oh I didn't get the agenda. Okay, we'll talk about 77 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.120 us. We're just hey, I'm very shoot from the hip man. That's 78 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.800 all right. We just talked about whatever funny we were in a meeting yesterday 79 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:54.160 Steve and I and our associated manager. So what are you talking about? 80 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:58.240 We don't know. We'll figure it out, yeah, you know. But 81 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:01.680 anyway, so I still find it surprising, but maybe I shouldn't. You 82 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:04.040 know. We go to a ham FESTUS Flex Radio and people come up and 83 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:08.120 say who are you? And never heard of us? But then they're not 84 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:11.000 on social media, they probably don't get any magazines and they just operate ham 85 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.839 radio all day. So we a long time ago decided that we needed to 86 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:20.160 expand our horizons, and especially since the four oh three A products, which 87 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:27.600 amazing set of products they build in HF Radio, from filters to pretty much 88 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.720 everything you need to go to. Their website also supports not only the Flex 89 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:35.959 Radio and the Flex Radio ecosystem, which means everything communicates over a computer land 90 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:41.120 which makes it verily throw a bunch of buzzwords that I'm really sorry, but 91 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:45.319 scalable. It grows, It keeps Kyle busy, you know, so he 92 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:53.879 can interface everything to everything and note red and so those the products, the 93 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:58.920 Power Genius and the tuner Genius Excel also work with OM Radio. So we 94 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:02.680 don't deal that much radio. So we met with I guess Laurie or my 95 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.639 VP met with getting parts not I guess. A while ago was after the 96 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:11.120 Huntsville ham Fast, and it took a while to get in place and we 97 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:14.319 thought, geez, why don't we make it available in their store because they're 98 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:19.319 such a great online presence and a great amazing marketing program. Um and just 99 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:26.680 to show there's more to it, right and hum and there. I don't 100 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.639 know, Steve, We're still building it, right. It's taking some time 101 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.000 to get it out there, and it's a whole new world and uh type 102 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:36.800 of thing for that. And we do have customers that you know, run 103 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:42.480 their p Power Genus XL amplifier on their seventy six ten or there's seventy three 104 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:46.000 hundred and the same thing for the tuner. But it takes a bit more 105 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.040 plug and play. It's not quite as plug and play ash, so it's 106 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:53.199 a bit more plug and understand and make it workish Steve any want to add 107 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:55.519 as well? I was, I was, you know, not to cut 108 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:59.600 you off there at the end there. I would definitely agree with the plug 109 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:03.199 and it is. It is in a sense plug and play, but plug 110 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:13.279 and learned with with everything that I did prior to Orlando learning it, collaborating 111 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:18.560 with you know, Michael Andy and a few others with flex it works, 112 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:24.240 and you know, one of my concerns from the beginning was taking a Flex 113 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.680 and I'm putting it to a one on one D and I'm going to put 114 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.320 it on a TS five ninety and I'm gonna put it on seventy six ten. 115 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:41.919 I had no issues, and the little hurdles that I had are very 116 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:48.639 easy hurdles to overcome. And do we still have do we still have things 117 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:56.440 to figure out and work on? Absolutely? M Yeah, we um uh. 118 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:01.120 It's no different than taking any radio and making your mf J amplifier track 119 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.960 or you know what. You you know, you bought a CAT five hundred 120 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.759 from Ela Craft and you wanted to work with your cam with TS five ninety. 121 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.080 It's the same hurdle, you know. It's just usually a couple of 122 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.840 wires. And I have a kPa five hundred that I put on the back 123 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:18.039 of my Flex sixty four hundred. Yeah, and it works well. And 124 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.120 we keep that Flex sixty four hundred down in Costa Rica. So the last 125 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.799 time we went down there, I packed in my UH in my check bag. 126 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:26.799 I think I packed my kPa five hundred and packed it really well and 127 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.639 it was fine. I took it down there and plugged it into the Buddy 128 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:35.080 Hecks XPEAM and we did five hundred fifty one. So that's a great little 129 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.759 amplifier. It really is that amplifier is that is that is a plug and 130 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:43.320 play amplifier. It takes one cable and that's it and it just it just 131 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:48.000 it just goes so um. But yeah, it's it's it's I've never done 132 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:52.279 it the other way around. Because so Jason at Skaggins, he tells me 133 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.399 at Hampkation that I need a power genius sitting right here behind me and all 134 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.200 my videos, and I said, yes, yes, side, do let 135 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.120 me know the tracking number when you send that, because now you guys have 136 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.480 those, Steve. So that's Jason's fault. I'm not blaming you for that 137 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:11.879 one, Steve, because Skagan says, I think I think one of the 138 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:13.159 guys it wasn't Robbie, but I think one of the other guys says, 139 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.000 why didn't Jason have a power gee? He's on the desk behind him, 140 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.759 and it's like, bro, you know, I'm gonna just let that question 141 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.039 float, but but I would love to have one. One of these days 142 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:28.840 I might be able to grab right. Yeah. Well, well, I 143 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.759 mean I bought my I bought I bought my flex radio and I bought the 144 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.759 Flex radio for Costa Rica, which the guys that we all share the spot 145 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.720 down there, they they pitched in and they so we ended up splitting out 146 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:46.279 about four four or five ways. Um so, and then of course I 147 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.639 bought that Flex radio and Laurie made me a pretty good deal on that Flex 148 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.399 radio that I gave away on my hundred K live stream, which was January 149 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.639 of last year. And the lady who won that was at our local ham 150 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:01.000 fest last weekend, so we got for a bit, so that's pretty cool. 151 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:03.639 She showed me a picture of it and everything, so um yeah, 152 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.200 yeah, definitely getting getting some good use out of the Flex radio. But 153 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.120 uh yeah, I haven't haven't hooked up the I don't have I don't have 154 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:15.720 an antenna up at the house right now that would handle of legal lim and 155 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.840 amplifier. But um but if I had a legal limit amplifier that I could 156 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.279 plug up and I can, I can solve the antenna issue pretty quickly, 157 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.399 so you know, that's that's kind of the thing there. But yeah, 158 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:33.200 I mean I know somebody who sells I know somebody who sells intendants. Yeah, 159 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.039 I've got it. Yeah yeah, yeah, this yeah insert DX Commander 160 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:41.120 joke right here. So, um, which I actually I actually just got 161 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:45.000 those of you who took advantage of the d X Commander um Easter special with 162 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.399 the expeditions that Colin was selling. I bought three of them. Insert second 163 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.639 DX Commander joke right here. But we're gonna give two of them away on 164 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:56.639 the live stream probably next month, probably in May, perhaps like the weekend 165 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:00.480 before dating something like that. We're gonna do a giveaway. We're gonna give 166 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.039 away two brand new d EX Commander expeditions. So more to come on that 167 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:07.679 later. Just a little side note there. So cool, Okay, So, 168 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:13.159 um, is there any is there any plans to carry the full line 169 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.840 of Flex radios at gigabarts or or I mean, why did this why did 170 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:22.399 the decision come about to just carry the genius equipment? Um, there's no 171 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.639 plans to bring in the Flex. But you know that's today, right Do 172 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.679 you never know how the crystal ball gets polished? Uh type of thing? 173 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:33.919 And if i'm you know, we've always considered it as well, um, 174 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:37.759 and as always looking for ways to get the radio in front of different people. 175 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:43.120 So that's certainly not an impossible discussion. Baby steps we've got. I 176 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.960 was telling um Daniel yesterday, it's amazing the heat we get from you know, 177 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.759 you you can't get this out fast enough. Why did you bring them 178 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:52.399 in? You know? It was like, Um, but you know, 179 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.000 with all about eleven thousand plus radios in the field, you tend to you'll 180 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.799 have a few, a few guys and the it was a good opinion. 181 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:01.840 Called the person. We had a nice long chat. He goes, oh, 182 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.000 I understand what you're doing now, and so maybe long term, but 183 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.279 maybe tomorrow. You know, it's like somebody will wake up and say, 184 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.120 yeah, you need to get some product here in the shelf. And we 185 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:16.919 were in DVA three CW and I were down at their store, their twenty 186 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.360 fifth anniversaries special. Is that what? It was? Just radio day? 187 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.919 Yeah, a couple of weeks, just a couple of weeks ago. Then 188 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.559 yeah, and Stephen, his lovely wife, took us out for dinner. 189 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:31.519 We had a great time and we went through the Signals Museum, which I 190 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:33.399 said we were going to mention as well. We mostly give them a plug 191 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.799 because this is a big deal. This is just not a museum of radios, 192 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:46.320 right, Steve correct The Signals Museum originally was Museum of Information Explosion came 193 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:52.000 to be a brain child two years ago and that brain child now is quite 194 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:58.200 amazing. Um, there's a flex correct me if I'm wrong, U sixty 195 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:03.039 four hundred. We've got, we've got we have a club station. But 196 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:13.679 the whole Signals Museum is the history of not only Ham Radio, but radio 197 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:22.759 teletype photography. It's it's a work in progress. It's probably three quarters of 198 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.399 the way there. It's there's a lot of final touches in place right now. 199 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.080 And you know, I know Mike and Andy when they came for you 200 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.679 know, Ham Radio Day, they stopped by and they visit some of the 201 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:39.759 curators and dosins as you know the common word here with the Space and Rocket 202 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:46.080 Center dosins, and so they got to see everything. And I think one 203 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:52.840 of the big things about this museum is once it is open, and we're 204 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:58.000 gonna have an open house Hunts moll Ham Fest weekend, probably that Friday before 205 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:03.639 maybe Thursday for the earlier earlier arrivals, since Saturday and Sunday, you're going 206 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:15.440 to be crazy and let everybody see what the history of technology because there's there's 207 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:20.639 there's so much going on the way everything is interfaced. I know at one 208 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:22.639 point you were talking about you take your cell phone, you scan a QR 209 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:28.799 code and it plays a video about what you're looking at. M But the 210 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.919 automation, like the the it's interactive. If you want to play with a 211 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.559 telephone switchboard, you know Lily Thom's Tomlin style with the plug ins. Uh, 212 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:43.159 there was a whole CW uh you know, interactive station with monitors that 213 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.159 pop up and animated graphics. I mean this is you know, it was 214 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.679 blown away. It's just not sort of a trivial. Here's a sign and 215 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.799 here's you know, here's what a CW key works like. It's it's hands 216 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.120 on and what it's probably be as you said, eighty percent down. I've 217 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.200 never seen so many cathedral radios in one place, you know, all too 218 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.000 and they were amazing and MIT and I guess Mark finds them everywhere, right. 219 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.919 And I was gonna say, Mark between the museum has home, and 220 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:12.000 I hear he has a lake side home probably about an hour away, so 221 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:18.799 he has plenty of items available to bring in, you know, swap things 222 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:23.840 out from the museum with other things. And last night I didn't get to 223 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:29.320 go to the meeting last night. But last night they restored I think a 224 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:34.399 litho lithograph. I know they restored. It seems like every month they were 225 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:41.720 restoring something and making it better. There is there are so many tubes. 226 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:47.639 They actually have their own tech center. They really it is real joke. 227 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:52.840 I mean they can fix it. If they can't fix it, there's something 228 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:55.639 wrong, and you know, I don't want to give him that shout out 229 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:57.799 and all of a sudden people are like, can you fix my old antique? 230 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:03.200 You know, you know, but right there is you know, there's 231 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.000 a Tesla coil. There, there is a spark gap. I don't know 232 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.920 if they're going to put that on the floor, but there is one RFI 233 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.359 city Wow. Yeah. They asked him if we wanted to stay in repair 234 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:18.720 radios because there's a whole repair center in the back. You should be able 235 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:25.440 to smell the oil of a model twenty eight KSR teletype screaming away. Wow. 236 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:26.640 Right. You know they hadn't gotten to that part right, that was 237 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:32.359 sort of in the back. But so we were we were at our our 238 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:37.880 local our small local hamfests that happened last weekend, and we talked about this 239 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:40.359 on my Sunday live stream. But I don't think you guys caught that. 240 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:42.960 So if you look at the zoom window right now, you can see one 241 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.720 of the fines I found. I did not buy this, but I got 242 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:49.200 a I got a small crash course from the guy who had this on his 243 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:56.079 table. This is a KWM two Collins and it's one of I think he 244 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:57.240 said it was the first, but if not, it was one of the 245 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:03.759 first transceiver that they ever built in colin circa nineteen sixty two to four ish, 246 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:10.400 I think. And he had a set of calling um uh, I 247 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:15.559 can't remember one tens or one of ones or whatever it was that the transmitter 248 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.000 receiver. He had a set of those two and those he said those were 249 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:25.160 from the fifties. But yeah, the vintage radio thing is fun to to 250 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.519 read the history on and to see how this all this stuff came about and 251 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:32.279 see how they did things back in the day and how you know, some 252 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:34.319 of the stuff that exists today. Why why does why is this knob over 253 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.880 here? Or why is this called this? This term? Where did this 254 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:41.480 term come from? A great example is a term pl tone? What's a 255 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.079 pl tone? You don't see the term pel tone in any of the study 256 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:48.000 guys for Technician, General and Extra. But it's an old Motorola Team term 257 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:52.720 that means private line, which is what we call CTCSS. It's the same 258 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.400 thing. It's not actually private, that's kind of what they called it back 259 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:57.240 then. But but stuff like that I like to see. I'd like to 260 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:03.640 see things like that that are M vintage and especially this one. Look. 261 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:06.359 I mean, it looked brand spank and new. It looked like that he 262 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:08.920 had done a fantastic restore job on it. Even on the inside it was 263 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:12.279 a little bit dusty, but it looked like it it was very well taken 264 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:17.359 care of. So um So your museum if it has stuff like that, 265 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:19.960 I'm already interested in it. So I was already thinking about coming to Huntsville 266 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:22.960 maybe a little bit, maybe a day earlier than I did last year. 267 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:26.039 So we're gonna have to see what the timing looks like for all that. 268 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:33.720 Okay, but I was at it is. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna 269 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:34.880 are you planning on are you going? Well, first of all, you're 270 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.160 going to Dayton, Michael. I will be at Dayton this year, okay, 271 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:41.519 for sure, for sure? Okay, which reminds me I need to 272 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.359 write my presentation on remote operating, So we'll take the shameless plug. And 273 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:49.759 I do have part of one of the foreign presentations, and back in January 274 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.519 I had to write the schedule for it or the description of it. But 275 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.519 we really want to focus on I want to focus on new users, you 276 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.519 know, the not not the geeky guys that already know every thing because they're 277 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.400 painting on the butt to argue with just like me. Yeah. No, 278 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.279 I want to focus on the new years and give them some some steps they 279 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:11.680 can follow to getting into remote operating, being whether it's down in your shack 280 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:15.200 or just in a different room or in the backyard, or maybe taking a 281 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.359 device to shut in so he can get on the air on eighty meters and 282 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:26.200 describe all the meads he's using, you know. Oh sorry, well there 283 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:27.279 you go. Okay, then yeah, that shot should be a lot of 284 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:32.319 fun, good, good good. Yeah. That that's always a fun show. 285 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:33.519 We were just talking about it the other day. And of course hunts 286 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:37.079 Field's right around the corner after that, well a couple of months after that, 287 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.839 but not too long. Don't don't tell Kyle, but I want him 288 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.319 to do some stuff too. So he was in the chat earlier. I 289 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:48.359 think he's probably still out there. He's still there, yeah, but yeah, 290 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:52.880 he's probably at work right now because we're we're actually heading to a Overland 291 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:57.440 show in Springfield, Missouri, tomorrow and Shane and I are going to meet 292 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:00.720 Kyle there. We're gonna hang out at that show this weekend. So I 293 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.480 kind of represent Ham Radio. I'm doing a presentation that says how to get 294 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:06.920 started in Ham Radio, which I did at the same show last year and 295 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:08.960 had a dozen or so people there, so that was a fun thing. 296 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:14.039 So that's what Eric was doing at QSO today as well. Right he wanted 297 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:17.440 to more focus on the new stuff. And we're going to be at IDXCC 298 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:22.720 and Vasilia, California this weekend as well. Oh okay, okay, good, 299 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:26.119 Yeah, I've heard of that. I don't know anything about it, 300 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:29.359 really, but I have heard of that show. So okay, good, 301 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:36.960 awesome. Well, um, how's um? I guess how's the what of 302 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:38.240 the I mean, I don't want you to give me. I'm not asking 303 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:41.920 you to give me sales numbers or anything. But how has the response been 304 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:45.640 Steve to Flex Radio being there, have you seen people come by and ask 305 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:52.000 for it or online. Have you seen much questions sales? Whatever I mean 306 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.519 about sales are when it comes to the tuner genius and the antenna genius, 307 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:03.319 I'm impressed. Of course, you know, people above me may have different 308 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.839 answers to that. The you know, like I just went to the club 309 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:12.400 breakfast this morning and we were talking about the amp, you know, and 310 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:17.400 I gave them what I you know, my own personal review, and I 311 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:22.759 said, my only con for the amp is just the SOPs because I'm a 312 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:27.319 kPa five hundred owner. Also, yeah, so my only thing is just 313 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:34.039 the size of the amp. It doesn't fit my atmosphere in the shack. 314 00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:37.319 Yeah, that's my only thing, that is it. You know, I 315 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:42.359 plugged it up. You know, I wasn't told necessarily break it. Yeah, 316 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:48.680 but I tried. I did. I did, and I was impressed 317 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.519 right out the box. You know. I tried to avoid you know, 318 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:59.200 looking at the startup guide how two things and one on one D fifteen hundred 319 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:03.720 solid to the one sixty vertical seventy six ten same thing, TS five ninety, 320 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:10.920 same thing. And I was doing RF sensing. So okay, so 321 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:14.039 let me stop you there, because I I don't know the answer to this 322 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:17.799 question. But I think it would it's um, I think it's good info. 323 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:19.279 So for the power genius says, I understand it. You know, 324 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:23.200 you plug your Flex radio the sixty four hundred that you guys can probably see, 325 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:27.240 that's right there, So you plug the sixty four hundred into the Ethernet 326 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:32.440 port. Okay. Also that it's plugged into an antenna into the power right 327 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:36.160 now, obviously, and I could go in, well, I could take 328 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.279 that inside and plug it into my switch in my in my office upstairs, 329 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:42.240 if I had a power genius down here plugged into my antenna, and then 330 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:47.720 those two will see each other across the network. How does that work with 331 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:52.279 a seventy six ten or a you know, an Icon radio or something, 332 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.680 or a Yasu radio? Whatnot? Does the does the RF sent or I'm 333 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:02.160 sorry, does the network matching up still work? The same? Good question? 334 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:07.079 Um? No, you have to do the old the other school, 335 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:11.200 which is um where you have to send banned data or frequency data directly from 336 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.480 the radio into the amplifier. Okay. And that's always been a challenge when 337 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.880 you have multiple devices because generally you then make the computer the key part to 338 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.559 communicating. So before you do anything. You get a boot up the computer, 339 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:27.279 um and um. But in a one on one just like your kPa 340 00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:30.400 five hundred, you have to have one cable or you could run the kPa 341 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:36.000 five hundred in RF sense mode and it just works. You just put up 342 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:40.480 a single RCA push to talk cable which we don't use on a on a 343 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:45.240 flex radio. So that works really well. And kay uh you know I 344 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.000 have I have cool ways you know where we can take the amplifier and get 345 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:52.000 it off your bench, Steven. You can extend it over you know, 346 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:55.480 a couple of geeky ways to get it a little further way or even at 347 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.920 the base of the tower type of thing. Right, But you still want 348 00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:02.440 it's a nice amp you want to sitting in front of you, and just 349 00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:04.200 I'm gonna take a minute because there's one feature I want to talk about with 350 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:07.440 the amp if you don't mind, sure, no, no, go ahead, 351 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.880 you we um And it's the harmonic dummy load And what the heck is 352 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:14.559 that? And I remember when I told it to Steve, he went, 353 00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:18.720 oh my god, I never heard of this before. Let me let me 354 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:21.799 interrupt your Steve's never heard of that before. Because Steve don't watch my channel, 355 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:25.039 not because you've mentioned this on this channel, So shame on Steve. 356 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:27.119 But this is a cool feature. Go ahead, Michael, I just had 357 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.640 to throw that into rad Steve from minute. Okay, let him defend himself. 358 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:36.440 Oh that's that's okay. When he said when he asked to borrow the 359 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:38.720 amp now right, yeah, yeah, I just shot myself. Yeah, 360 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:42.519 then I'll just shot myself the foot, okay, all right, all right, 361 00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:48.119 go aheads a harmonic dummyload. So you remember you remember from Ham school. 362 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:52.279 If you amplify a radio signal like say fourteen mega hurts and you make 363 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:55.279 it more or fourteen mega hurts more volts, you also get more harmonics, 364 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:57.799 right, so you get a big signal at twenty eight and then the third, 365 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:04.319 fourth, fifth harmonic. So and legally we can't allow that that energy 366 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:07.640 to flow out the antenna, right, so we capture it with a very 367 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.920 simple or no amplifier. Manufacturers capture it with a very simple device called a 368 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:17.359 low pass filter. So it lets fourteen megaherts through, and somewhere about halfway 369 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:21.960 in between, there's this big filter that prevents all this energy from coming out. 370 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.559 And essentially it's a bad SWR is what it sees because it's and it 371 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.480 reflects. So if you could measure, if you could re measure that reflected 372 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:36.279 wave at twenty eight megahert sealed ceds actually fairly big. So in every every 373 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.960 other amplifier hits, the low pass filter goes nope, not making it. 374 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:44.480 The antennant bounces back and it goes right back to the lmdos, which can 375 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:49.839 cause bad IMD intermodulation distortion, and it can corrupt how how clean your signal 376 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:56.000 sounds. So credit four O three A with this design part of the clean 377 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.480 Signal initiative that we're starting to go down that whole path. We don't want 378 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.119 that reflected energy to go back into the lmdos because it's going to make our 379 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:07.160 signals sound worse. So they actually add another filter, a high pass filter 380 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:12.079 that grabs that energy coming backward and deflects it over to a dummy load and 381 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.480 turns it into heat. Now I didn't think it was a big deal, 382 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.000 and I didn't think it was that much heat, But there's a four hundred 383 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:23.240 wat dummyload in that radio and it gets hot from just capturing the reflected energy 384 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:27.119 and it's not doing anything wrong in fact, it's doing everything right. And 385 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:33.680 this is why the power Genius XL has some of the best IMD numbers out 386 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:38.759 there, and it's from this technology design. Of course, this all adds 387 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.799 to the cost, but you get a cleaner amplifier, and you know, 388 00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.440 the amplifier also supports two two OEM radios at the same time, meaning that 389 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:53.519 you could be actually listening on forty meters while transmitting on eighty. Now generally 390 00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.599 only contesters do that in s O two R mode, but it's just it's 391 00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:00.240 part of the amplifier. Can you okay, so two OEM radios, So 392 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.519 can you not have an icon and a flex radio at the same time? 393 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:07.839 Yeah, oh you can. Okay, okay, I thought you meant two 394 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.200 flex radios, but okay, you could do. No, you could do 395 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:14.039 like a sixty six hundred, which is like two radios, yeah, the 396 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.079 whole talk on the spectral capture unit, right, or you could have a 397 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.960 sixty four hundred or you know, one radio dedicated to one half and the 398 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.400 other radio. You know, you're five ninety, which is a great HF 399 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:29.759 radio for the money by the way, um, yes, very good contest 400 00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.359 radio for the money on the other half and you know, you gotta work 401 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.759 out a few tricks, but yeah, it works. Cool, Okay, 402 00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.839 I remember why I told Steve and his guys there and they were like, 403 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.680 oh, I've never heard of this before, right, this harmonic dummy load 404 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.839 and it's it's a feature. It is a cool feature. I yeah, 405 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.519 and we did. I couldn't tell you which episode it was, but Michael 406 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.720 has been on the show three, four or five times in a while, 407 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.880 and yeah, yeah, yeah, but we have talked about that for and 408 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:00.119 I thought it was a cool fee you're back then, so yeah, that's 409 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:04.960 definitely worth bringing up again. Good. Um, So Steve, have you 410 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:10.960 tried the what do you think about the uh? Well kind of a loaded 411 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.720 question. What do you think about the tuner genius? Because the tuner genius? 412 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:19.920 Uh because to me now, and I'd like to hear what you have 413 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.759 to say about this also, Michael, I mean having a tuner and the 414 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.319 tunor genius is not it's not cheap, it's it's it's a few bucks. 415 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:36.799 And having a tuner genius just means that your antenna is not resonant, basically 416 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.079 or having having an Aintenna tuner, meaning it means that your antenna is not 417 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:42.920 resonant. So if you have a hex beam or a triband or something like 418 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.319 this, then you should already have a resonant. You have a step yr 419 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:49.519 which adjusts itself obviously, then you should you already have a resonant antenna. 420 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.720 So is there a reason to have a tuner genius if you're using a resonant 421 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:59.759 antenna and I think you can hook up like what six or eight different antennas 422 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.319 to the thing. Not really, Now, the tutor question is a good 423 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:04.720 question. I'm just going to speak in tuners in general. I'm not a 424 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:10.640 tuner guy because my old fart, my old elmer's long since passed away, 425 00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:12.319 said what do you need a tuner for? Fix a pagan antenna? Use 426 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:18.920 it right, you know. And so tuners just your intenna system starts at 427 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.599 the connector you put in the back of the radio, right, and you're 428 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.319 supposed to, you know. We were all taught to match impedances as best 429 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.519 you can all the way through. So but the world's gotten generally lazy and 430 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.920 said, well if it tunes, I'm great, And well, sure it 431 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:37.200 tunes. The radio sees a great SWR, which is highly overrated. Doesn't 432 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.279 mean your antenna is radiating very well, and you'll radiate, you'll get some 433 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.319 signal out, but you can do better. And yeah, so the Tuner 434 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.559 Genius is good to tend to one. I'm going to pass it to Steve 435 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.160 because you've used it your first impressions. I'm biased obviously, and I have 436 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.519 a stepper antenna, So I use my Tuner Genius, but I have it 437 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.400 in bypass mode just so I can use it as my watmeter. Oh okay, 438 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.200 the Stepford which is really handy. Sorry overkilled, but go ahead. 439 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.640 Yeah. Well, and what I was going, you know, I don't 440 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:11.960 have a contest setup, which we're thinking maybe you know version two of living 441 00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.119 here in Alabama, so you know, the only resonant intendant I do have 442 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.720 is my Mosley Cel thirty three that right now is only ten feet off the 443 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.680 ground because I can't put it. Can't put a tower up on the water 444 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:30.039 table in the backyard. Is horrible. So for I'll use the seventy six 445 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.960 ten in is as my example. When I went to use the tuner, 446 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.359 I'm like, okay, I can wire it up with our little interface kit 447 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:45.200 that we offer. Great, I have to put it in am okay, 448 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:52.400 put it in am Press tune. Puts an AM by the way just to 449 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.000 get twenty one so out because that's what the tuner wants. It was just 450 00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:57.359 an easy way to do it. Okay, So you know, put do 451 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:04.640 do the AM trick and it's not a bust on any other product we offer, 452 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:08.319 Harry Giggle parts a lot quicker than the LDG, you know at one 453 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:14.119 thousand. Okay, I have never opened up a palstar box here. I 454 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:15.519 don't get them back. So to me, if I don't get them back 455 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.359 in returns, they must work. That's a good thing. Yeah, okay, 456 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.400 you know, I'm not going to bash the three letter company because someday 457 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:30.640 they work, someday they don't. But yeah, yeah, the tuner worked, 458 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.880 and it was a very quick you know, with my one sixty vertical, 459 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.839 I've got it set right now for eighteen forty ft eight one sixty. 460 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.240 So during the one sixty contest, that's when I really got to play with 461 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.920 it, and I was able to go up to nineteen twenty park myself there 462 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.839 zip zip within less than three seconds and it had no issues. Great, 463 00:32:54.200 --> 00:33:00.160 So that's what I used it. And even when I moved ten ksees it 464 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:06.640 was a very quick. Zip zip. It wasn't right like others. Yeah, 465 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:08.640 I've I've heard that about the tuner Genius, that it's incredibly fast. 466 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:15.400 So that's good. Even when and even when I went back to let's say 467 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.640 nineteen twenty or went to nineteen forty nineteen fifty to chase somewhat, I call 468 00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.119 him the Jersey Boys, where when I was still living up there, it 469 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:27.160 right to it, click, click, done. There wasn't no all you 470 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.480 know, I'm going to have that little one second click and then it goes 471 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:36.240 up. No, it was milliseconds. Wow. Okay, Tunior, you 472 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.559 asked what in Tennis. I didn't answer the question, Tunor. Genie. 473 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:42.119 It comes as in the s O two R model, which pairs beautifully with 474 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:46.160 the power Genius for single operator two radio, which of course pairs beautifully with 475 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.720 you know, a sixty six hundred or two sixty four hundred or two AM 476 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.400 radios. Right, there's only one in ten a part. And that's when 477 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.319 you really if you're building that sort of station, that's where you really want 478 00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:01.559 the intended genius as well, because you have eight antennas that you can share 479 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:07.159 among those two gotchas, and there's also a tuner Genius, which is a 480 00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:12.000 one by three meaning one RF porting and you've got an antenna switch on the 481 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.000 back for three antennas, which is pretty typical for most most urban operators, 482 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:20.239 right. Not many get past three, you know, hf antennas. Some 483 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.079 do, right, So how do you switch that? Is it emmanual switch 484 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:28.400 or is it you do that in software? If it's tracking, it'll do 485 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.400 it. You assign it when you set it up and say, hey this 486 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.960 is this is eighty forty and this is my tribe, right, But I 487 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.400 mean like, like, how how are you switching those? You said it 488 00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.320 had three outputs, So how do you choose which one is it? Is 489 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:45.840 that something you can do in smartest dr that um, But there's also you 490 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.679 can send it banned data from the radio so the radio knows so when you 491 00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.960 go to say six meters, the radio will send the six meter cat commanded. 492 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:59.000 See this is where this is where we it gets a little more, 493 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.320 a little more cable to have both the tuner Genius and the antenna Genius working 494 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.039 at the same time. So we've got some solutions we're working on. We 495 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.039 don't have all the equipment to go test everything, but you know, the 496 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.800 math does they say, The math says it should work just fine by by 497 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:16.639 splitting RS two thirty two parts. And there's many if you know, if 498 00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.719 you know how to do this, you don't even need to listen to me 499 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.239 because you already know what to do. But as a user, if you 500 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.880 don't know what serial RS two thirty data is and how it works and how 501 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.800 you make it multi I don't know multi cliented, then there's a bit more 502 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.760 bits you got to throw at it type of thing. It's not complicated if 503 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.840 you understand the technology, which is a retty typical question. It's part of 504 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:42.199 the reason that I have, you know, I have this talk called the 505 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.639 Death of the RS two thirty two parts because I think it's you've heard it 506 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:47.679 right, It's you've heard a little limiting right. Is we get more and 507 00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.440 more integrated in any hamshack And you know, in my case, you can 508 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:53.920 look behind me. All my hamshack stuff now in the shelf behind me, 509 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:59.159 and this is now just really a desk with the mouse and then a little 510 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:05.079 bit of stuff on it. Is it is the antenna genius weather proof? 511 00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:08.239 Is it made to be mount outside? No, outside's fine, but you 512 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:13.119 need to come up with your own weatherproofcase, okay, which isn't hard today, 513 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.880 right, No, I'm just yeah, I'm just I mean, because 514 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.480 a lot of guys use those. Uh well, MFJ makes one, but 515 00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.079 there's a couple of other companies that make them. Also. That's just one 516 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:28.599 one one coax coming out of the shack, and six or eight intenas you 517 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.400 know, vertical horizonal whatever to even even including two meters if you have a 518 00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:36.840 transverter. Even heath Kept made those, right yeah, yeah, so, 519 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.280 but but those are typically you want those mounted outdoors so that you don't have 520 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.880 six or eight or ten coaxes coming into the shack. You just have one 521 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:45.599 coming out of the shack, and then it controls the antenna switch on the 522 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:49.639 outside. So that's what I was wondering. If or you can get really 523 00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.159 carried away and put a little shack at the base of the tower, run 524 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.440 a lane cable to it, and put all the radios out there, and 525 00:36:54.480 --> 00:37:00.719 guess what, You've actually significantly improved your station because you've gotten rid of feedline 526 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.960 losses m which is what I do in my remote right even when I go 527 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.320 to the cottage where my remote is, I have to use my rote remote 528 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:13.559 remotely because it's two hundred feet away. Okay, that's easy to fix things 529 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.280 because I have to watch cross field. But you know, and and CAT 530 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:22.000 five is a lot cheaper than lmr FO. You know, yes, UV 531 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.760 resistant Cat five at that it's easy to get. That would be a good 532 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.559 idea. But I usually whatever crap I have lying around, and then I 533 00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.360 said, oh see, I place it next summer. And then it's like 534 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.280 five years later, right, and it's still working. We'll see that the 535 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.119 sun in Texas would kill it the summer. The summers and Texas would kill 536 00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.440 it. If it's not UV resistant, it might fast, it might last 537 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.480 a couple of years. But of course I have the I have the canine 538 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:51.480 dog problem as well. So I got three dogs in the backyard and they 539 00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:55.679 like to chew on things. So Basco sauce, Yeah, yeah, I 540 00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.840 could do that make your signal really hot? So all right? Cool? 541 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.400 Uh so okay, so tunor genius we answered that? So in tenna genius 542 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.320 is I think you said it was eight output. It's a two by eight. 543 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.880 We actually also have a I don't know, Steve, if you know 544 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.599 this, we actually have some one by eights as well. Which means one 545 00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.119 in and eight out, which is it's a little younger brother. We've got 546 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:22.800 those in Stocker in Texas. So yeah, okay, Ranco's team at four 547 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:28.480 or three a I've done. You know, their stuff is not inexpensive, 548 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:34.840 but it's really good, good, good, Okay, okay, cool? 549 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.199 So so what else? Those? Those are the three items that the tunor 550 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.480 genius and tenner genus and power genus. Is that the three items that you 551 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:47.280 carry, Steve, Yes, that's the current genius profile we have. Yeah, 552 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:52.719 okay, that's a whole bunch of other Ham Radio stuff. Yeah, 553 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:58.480 yeah, true computer stuff. Okay, that was you know, I plugged 554 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.079 the computer. You know, because Mike and Andy when they came for Ham 555 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:06.320 Radio Day, you know, they were right as soon as you come in 556 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:07.199 the door, and you know, Jason, you've been to the store several 557 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.880 times. Their table was right as soon as they came in the door on 558 00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.000 the right hand side, second door in right right. The first thing that 559 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:22.199 they said is this is a computer. This is a computer store with amateur 560 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:28.320 radio in the back. Corn. Absolutely, they were very happy. And 561 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.320 that you know when somebody that has never been to the store says you have 562 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.519 computers Okay, Yes, we are a technology superstore. We're also a technology 563 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:45.119 town. Oh we still have our flavor of ham radio and makers. And 564 00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:51.559 arguably, by the way, the computer today is fifty percent of our Hamshock, 565 00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:55.639 if not more. In some cases. It's a beautiful mix a lot 566 00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.159 of a lot of times. That is true, Yes, very true. 567 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:04.679 So so okay, I'm looking at this antenna genius on the Giga Parts website 568 00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.639 right now. So this is the eight by two. So so you've got 569 00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:12.519 you've got, well, I can switch the I can switch the views. 570 00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:16.880 Everybody sees what I'm looking at here, you've got them. It looks like 571 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:24.119 RCA or composite type cables on the top there. Yeah, I can't really 572 00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:28.719 tell what that is. That's the green port in the center. I think 573 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:34.400 is probably power and probably I think those are the dip switches. And then 574 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.920 okay, okay, there are other connectors. It will take, it will 575 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.639 take BCD band data. Okay, first we're switching. There will be a 576 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:47.440 land connector or power connector, or the dB nine's are or do the idnsities 577 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:53.480 or for your your BCD inputs. Okay, okay, but you could you 578 00:40:53.519 --> 00:41:00.079 could, you could run um but you could run this at the base of 579 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:06.239 your tower and just connect an ethernet from it to your hamshack and control everything 580 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.760 pretty much in the flex ecostructure. Yeah, in the non flex you may 581 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:14.800 you know again, you may call Kyle. I love picking on Kyle. 582 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.679 You may you may use Node red to drive some information to it, you 583 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:23.519 know, if you're getting to that level of integration type of thing. Okay, 584 00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:28.639 okay, um, yeah, there's there's you know, the world's great 585 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.960 now with the technology because thanks to think in all honesty, thanks to things 586 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:36.800 like Node red and in the couple of hundred actually we have but two thousand 587 00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.840 members playing around in that world. It's allowed us to really integrate stuff that 588 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:49.199 wasn't designed to be integrated. Let's do look like our connect Yes, yes, 589 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.280 PTTA in and out and ptt B in and out. So that's for 590 00:41:52.400 --> 00:42:00.639 cascading things, that's right, okay, okay, yeah, cool, okay, 591 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.360 well perfect, all right, So I've got some RS two thirty two 592 00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:09.119 and civ b CD converters that are actually now available. So yeah, could 593 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:15.400 with the Array solutions, I think they call it a cat CR five you 594 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.079 come out of the radio and RS two thirty two you go into that and 595 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.400 then it'll control three devices, so you can send one to the tuner, 596 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:29.199 one to the power genius, and one to the intenna genius, and then 597 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:34.360 it's a Joe magic right, and just write the check. Okay, hmm, 598 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:38.559 interesting, interesting, Okay, Well, I'm kind I'm trying to think 599 00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:44.039 about my own setup here and thinking about how that I could incorporate something like 600 00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:49.760 that because I've been wanting I've been wanting a some sort of out external intenna 601 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.360 switch for a while. So um currently only have currently have one HF intenna 602 00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:59.599 up, but I have a hex beam that I'm working on. And then 603 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:01.280 and I can't put a d X before everybody starts. I can't put a 604 00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:05.639 DX commander in the backyard because of dogs, because it does require a bunch 605 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.199 of I don't want something with ground radials in the backyard. But we can 606 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.639 take that to the hunting lease and use it there, so that that might 607 00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:14.480 be something in the future for that. But yeah, I'm just kind of 608 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.840 thinking about my own I play. I'm just trying if I put it into 609 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.760 my own application, I kind of get a better understanding how it works overall. 610 00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:25.719 So good. Yeah, there's just the mind's the limit, right, 611 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.559 we right know, because we are customers, which are you know, like 612 00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.400 the Marks of the World at the Signals Museum, right that they just they 613 00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.920 and or they're retired and they just got a new hobby for their hobby, 614 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:45.719 right, and the integration is huge. COVID made remote mainstream. Yes you 615 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:47.920 know, and you know how and you know how plug and play. You're 616 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:53.159 you have a sixty three or sixty sixty four. Yeah, you know you 617 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:58.079 know how plug and play that is, right? So oh yeah, yeah, 618 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.559 yeah. Our biggest issue with that radio on there is the internet because 619 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:07.440 it's not stable. So when the Internet goes down at the site, through 620 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:09.800 no fault of the radio, we can't connect to the radio. So you 621 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:15.119 know, that's the biggest problem we have. Uh, but you know that 622 00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.480 it is what it is. So but when it's when it's up and running, 623 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:24.840 it's great. So cool, all right, Well, what hey, 624 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.360 I got to ask the question, and I know what the answer is going 625 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:30.639 to be, but I'm gonna ask it anyway because it's my show. Right, 626 00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:35.280 So, what's what's new coming down in flex radio? Do we have 627 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:44.880 it? The answer is, um, so I can't tell you. But 628 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:46.360 and the reason I can't tell you is you know, in the early days, 629 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:51.360 you'd leak stuff out, but I mean social media has really killed the 630 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.079 ability to let out rumors because say, yeah, we're working on working on 631 00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.199 thing and we hope to have it out by me, and then you know, 632 00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:02.239 something comes up. Whether you're there's parts. Availability has always been an 633 00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:07.199 issue in different areas. You know, whether and I've said this about the 634 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:08.920 Maestro. You know, we went to buy this is what delayed the Maestro's 635 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:13.079 along with issues with the tablet. And then you go say something like and 636 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.639 I wasn't there, but yeah, we'd like to buy five thousand of these 637 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.880 and stockpilems so we can build radios for five years. And they go, 638 00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:22.000 oh, yeah, we're weren't going to make that many. So you then 639 00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:27.639 have to requalify different hardware. Yeah, and you know when we're seeing in 640 00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.039 every HF manufacturer has this problem too with you know, power app chips. 641 00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:36.239 Yeah, once you've used for twenty years aren't available anymore, right, you 642 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:40.559 know, so because we were the amateur radio was the only people using them, 643 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.920 not a big industry, right, So yeah, we're not gonna do 644 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:51.920 another production law and so I can't say anything we've got some new radios coming 645 00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.639 out that are commercial, the ninety six. So yeah, so Dawn in 646 00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.599 five SKT he put a picture in the chat and I'm like, that looks 647 00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:01.239 photos shopped. It looks like you took a sixty four and put a new 648 00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:04.679 number on it. But no, he says, it's the military. So 649 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.880 what is it if there's we're doing a lot with the military. Now I'm 650 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:14.000 a Canadian, so they don't tell me anything anymore. Well, if I'm 651 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:15.639 learning want to learn anything, I have to google it and look for the 652 00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:21.639 press release. But that being said, the military, whether the Air Force 653 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.000 or water, has been incredibly impressed with the technology of the platform, the 654 00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:29.719 ability to scale. They loved waveforms. Now while amateur hasn't done much with 655 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.840 waveforms yet. If we, if we, Hams came out with a really 656 00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:36.280 new mode, and I'm going to get beat up on this, but I'll 657 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:37.960 say it anyway, and you generally you would have had to go buy a 658 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:43.639 whole new radio. Well you could write a waveform for that and just load 659 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.119 it and the radio do it, or a new mode of mode. You 660 00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:50.079 know, it's even a better example where you just the sort of thing. 661 00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.000 So that's where a lot of that development time is right now. We will 662 00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:58.360 I know I've said it before. It will benefit us in the long run 663 00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.079 and good. We would all have liked the gotten more of it back in 664 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:07.960 the amateur world sooner. But if you've ever run your own company or work 665 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:13.079 for somebody, you know sometimes the priorities are different. Right. That was 666 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.280 the big That was the big theme at the Flex Radio dinner at him Mention 667 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:22.559 last year, is that these these military agreements had not come to a finish, 668 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:29.400 but they basically they fulfilled their obligation and they they kind of finished some 669 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.119 projects somewhere and now they're now they have time to work on more to the 670 00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:37.039 amateur side. So which day that's happening. Not as fast as we'd like, 671 00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.199 But sometimes you get Scope Creek too and we say no and then they 672 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:43.800 say, well we'll pay you something with a lot of zeros on it if 673 00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:47.480 you do it. Oh okay, well okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, 674 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:51.920 that's understandable. I did you brought up the Maestro and I meant to 675 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:53.679 I was going to ask you about that earlier. What is there still a 676 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.760 backlog on those or what's the story on the lab? There will be a 677 00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.400 I don't know what we'll call it. Let's just call it Maestro se for 678 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.280 for fun, because there was an Ambu and the ma models which have the 679 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.880 front panel, yes, built into the right, which is like this one. 680 00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:14.800 It's backwards over my head here. Yeah, yeah, and it's double 681 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:21.199 backwards because anyway, they they've all been impacted by this. This is the 682 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.199 display. And it's like I said earlier, So we quantified a display, 683 00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.559 We got it to work, it'll do what we wanted to do. We 684 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.679 can write the software for it. And then all of a sudden there's no 685 00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:30.840 displays available or not enough displays, so you do the second one. This 686 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:35.639 went on through three cycles. Oh wow, and so and I don't know 687 00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:38.719 if you know this. The display on the sixty four hundred m and the 688 00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:44.320 sixty six hundred m and the Maestro is eight inches. Yeah, it's a 689 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:49.000 little less common, right, where seven and eleven are the norm, and 690 00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:53.679 all hammers like you seventy six ten and even my seventy three hundred there you 691 00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:59.159 know, Yeah, they're much smaller displays. So you know we have these 692 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.519 you know, all these discussions you think about, they happen internally too, 693 00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:04.679 right, Oh yeah, we like screw it, man, just go to 694 00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.239 a seven inch. Well, then we have to retool and that really drives 695 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:13.119 the price up and everything even more. So. We thought the eight inch 696 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:17.360 display was still such a huge selling feature in both devices because how many people 697 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:21.199 are on this chat that have at least two pairs of glasses sitting at their 698 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.400 desk. Yeah, you know, we're not going and it's an aging group. 699 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.559 So that's what the lay is. But targets the fall with a big 700 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:32.199 push to exceed that. I don't know if I could say that out loud. 701 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:37.199 But the work continues and there are many things to have to happen. 702 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.440 There will be some new features we've promised, so we'll have some news on 703 00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:46.719 that that will be in there. It's a little it's like saying, and 704 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:52.400 I'm gonna say this hypothetically, you're going to support IPv six. Okay, 705 00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:57.480 it was common as especially from Europe, because you can't get in some cases 706 00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:02.360 an IPv four address hopefully, but it depends on the NICK network card or 707 00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:06.719 the modem that's in the device that comes with right, does this support it? 708 00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:08.519 So these are all things that you know, we're sort of a little 709 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:13.320 bit out of our control. Um oh you want a tablet that does all 710 00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:17.440 that, Well that's double the price. So yeah, yeah, I wish 711 00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.280 you could share more. But there's always a bunch of things in the air 712 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.239 that drive the end result, right right, Okay, so so they're they're 713 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.840 hoping Q four or you said fall, but I think in September, but 714 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:35.719 it really does change, right so when that happens. Yeah, yeah, 715 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.920 yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah, yeah, I like to 716 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.280 tease you guys, but you know, I totally And the ship shortage and 717 00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:50.400 global supply chain issues have affected everybody, you know, so no, yeah, 718 00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.239 well, good case in point two is when the first buyer happened. 719 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.880 That was the guys that build all the local oscilators right that we use. 720 00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.360 We had to retool a mother board to take the new oscill later when you 721 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.960 retool it and then you have to requalify the board. So by the way, 722 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.559 um, I was talking to one of our designers a while ago, 723 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.159 what do you think how much money you have to do? How much money 724 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.599 do you think you need to set aside? I think I told Steve this, 725 00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.199 if you want to design a new radio for Scratch and you're you're you 726 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:21.000 know, Jason's hammer radio company, and I'm going to build a HF radio 727 00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:23.440 that I want to compete with us or Alcraft. How much? How much 728 00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:31.039 money do you think you need to set aside? M I'd probably I'll probably 729 00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:36.760 get it wrong, but three hundred thousand Steve did I mentioned to this Steve 730 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.159 to dinner? You mentioned that dinner. I just don't remember. Then the 731 00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:45.880 figure I think a million, and you'll be light Yeah, yeah, I 732 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:47.840 wonder if it was into seven figures or not. So a lot of us 733 00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:51.239 just taken up by salaries. Say it takes you six or eight months? 734 00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:53.639 Okay, so we all like to get paid. Yeah, yeah, you 735 00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:55.880 know, so you can do start quickly doing the math, and you'll see 736 00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:59.800 you'll chew through that pretty fast. And then you have to pay that all 737 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.880 back. Yeah. How many where is you going to sell? Twenty? 738 00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:06.039 Well? Not worth it? Okay, now it's worth it, right? 739 00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:10.480 Yeah? Yeah? Okay, Well, when that my and I'll send I'll 740 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:15.159 send Laurie an email and and propose this as well. But when that Maestro 741 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:22.519 becomes a thing, um, let me let let me know prototype, I 742 00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:24.639 will call you. Well, yeah, dat, and the and I want 743 00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.360 I want to I want to get one for myself as well, So I'll 744 00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.599 buy one and then we can get on and do a live stream together and 745 00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:32.679 we can go through everything that it does. Sure so, because because I 746 00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.039 have I think I have a I think my model is the B model, 747 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:43.679 not the A model. I think. But there are other than construction of 748 00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.039 them. They're identically the s. There's like the power buttons on a different 749 00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:50.920 place or something, right, So, yeah, mine's the one on the 750 00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.000 mind's the side that's a bee. Okay, that's what I thought. Okay, 751 00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.760 So and we're gonna have to figure out where to put the power button 752 00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.440 on the sea hop maybe it'd be someplace differently. Yeah, so you can, 753 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:05.079 Yeah, so you can. You can make it look different. So 754 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.280 yeah, that's good. But no, no, that that'd be a really 755 00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.679 cool video live stream to talk about that when it's a um right before it 756 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:15.320 releases or right right as it releases. However y'all want to do that is 757 00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.280 fine, So we should we should plan for that because I always thought that 758 00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:21.039 was a cool device. Anyway, I'm getting away with saying more than I 759 00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.559 should because I know everybody in the company is in a company lunching right now. 760 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:30.400 Sorry, he's watching. I'm waiting for Laurie to pop up. Shut 761 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:37.280 up, that's good, Okay, we all try, right, Oh yeah, 762 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.719 really do care? So yeah, yeah, exactly, you know Hey 763 00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:45.639 that Um, I'm not going to mention who but you know, some companies 764 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:49.639 get mad when you speculate on new products. But um, you know, 765 00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.239 but they yeah, but they they if it's the one you're poking on. 766 00:53:53.679 --> 00:54:00.920 Yeah, I think on our end, I got then I get the vendor 767 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.039 bulletin. And the first thing I immediately do is when are you doing a 768 00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:09.519 live chat? Because they would send up that vendor bulletin, it would get 769 00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:20.400 leaked to YouTube content creators and leaked. Yeah, and then the information was 770 00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:27.519 wrong. We saw that with the seven ten m and well there was speculation 771 00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:30.679 on the seven ten because their their promo photo had a big screen behind it. 772 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:35.000 There was oh it comes with a screen. I'm sure it didn't come 773 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:40.840 with the screen, but that was a terrible promo photo. But well, 774 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.280 and see that's the other thing leaked. If your stuff is getting if your 775 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.559 stuff is not getting leaked, you're not playing the leak game correctly. All 776 00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:52.440 of these all these oh leaked Hollywood trailer to this new movie. They didn't 777 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.000 leave they leaked that on purpose, you know, it was all part of 778 00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:59.239 the plan. So yeah, leak information when you get it on purpose. 779 00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:00.880 I mean I have a list. I have a list of trolls. I'll 780 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:05.280 link stuff too, Right, that's good, that's good. You know, 781 00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.800 it's like it's like giving you an explorer backpack. H Look what happens? 782 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:15.599 Yep? Correct, that's that's exactly right. So good deal. All right, 783 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:19.320 guys, we're just about it at an hour. So is there anything 784 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.559 any final thoughts from either one of you? No, but I'm thinking doritos. 785 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:28.400 M hmm. I think I finished that back. Oh. I always 786 00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.840 Jason, always glad to be here and talk about stuff. And hopefully if 787 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.920 we see some people at Dayton, which is like a month away, a 788 00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:40.239 month away. Yeah, it's coming up real quick. So and uh and 789 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:44.000 Steve are you guess you guys will be at date and we'll see Steve again. 790 00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.239 Yep, you guys are in building two. We're in building three, 791 00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:52.360 right next to Yasu who knows who knows why we'll be putting in the back 792 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:55.159 of a Blanco. You know, Jason, I gotta tell you this, 793 00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.480 it will never happen because we just don't have the budget for it, but 794 00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:00.880 we poke arounna ideas of what is the booth going to look like or what 795 00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:06.880 fizzas you know, and we don't we won't have anything new to announce at 796 00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:10.480 that time. But I said, Lauria, we need to go rent one 797 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:17.079 of those you know, twelve by the eight video walls and have it just 798 00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:22.880 hanging above the booth, just with a waterfall going on. Imagine that be 799 00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:25.440 great. But we actually made calls, but it couldn't find anybody that would 800 00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:29.840 deliver one without like a whole crapload of money, right because they're used to 801 00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:34.440 doing concerts and oh yeah yeah, and but I just imagine so why we 802 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:37.400 can get some of those beam those projectors are pretty bright now, we just 803 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:43.199 get a screen up there and totally totally yeah. Kyle's reminding us about the 804 00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:47.239 Flex Radio dinner. So I think Kyle and I and uh one or two 805 00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:50.840 other people I can't remember who else right now, we're we bought tickets for 806 00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:57.159 the Thursday night dinner, so well, Thursday night will be Um the ham 807 00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:04.599 Side guy, Nathan Frizzle Frizzlee Nathaniels, thank you. Sorry, it's not 808 00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:07.360 in front of me, so I'm guessing, yeah, looking forward to that 809 00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:09.039 because I don't know that much about him, but others said, you know, 810 00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:14.239 it's really great. And then for the new Ham or the newer Ham. 811 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:16.599 We could do a whole show on this. But on Friday night Bob 812 00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:22.880 from Palmer's going to talk about chokes and was I posted this on the community 813 00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:28.400 and got ripped a new one. But I think the what what's missing in 814 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.599 today's world is any wire you hook up to a compute, to a radio, 815 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:36.960 not just the intent. The Intenta cable can be a receiving antenna and 816 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:40.960 these all these contribute to your noise floor as well. So he's going to 817 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:45.760 talk about the use of chokes in a today's common hamshack. And she mentioned 818 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:51.519 to Steve yesterday and because you saw it, right, they have this beautiful 819 00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:53.360 like you say, hey, I've got an icon seventy three hundred and send 820 00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:59.280 me the choke kit and choke I have, Yes, yes, I have 821 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:02.679 to know what your noise floor starts to go down. Nothing to do with 822 00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:07.239 and transfering, of course, but as the importance now is in receiving right, 823 00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.159 So right right, So Bob's going to talk about that. That's really 824 00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.079 I will you know what, that'd be a good live stream too. So 825 00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.400 maybe i'll shoot an email out here later because i've I have I have one 826 00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:21.840 of their seventy three hundred kids, and I bought a kit for something else 827 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.519 I can't remember, but I don't have the seventy three hundred here in the 828 00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:28.400 shack, so I never have hooked it up. But last that's the seventy 829 00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:30.480 seven hundred. I wouldn't mind. Oh I bought a kit for the Flex. 830 00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:32.920 Yeah, I bought a kit, one of the because they make one 831 00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:36.000 for the Flex. I think, yeah, he does, and he's a 832 00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:38.119 big Flex user too, right, yeah, yeah, But so I bought 833 00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:40.920 their seventy three hundred kit and their Flex kit, and I put um, 834 00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:44.920 I didn't put every the Flex kit comes with, like everything, Well, 835 00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:46.519 I don't have everything hooked up on my Flex, so I put the ones 836 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:51.760 in that that I had connections for, Like I don't have two antennas, 837 00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.199 I don't have to receive antenna. I don't have an amplifier in the shack 838 00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.679 right now. So I didn't hook any of that up. But but the 839 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.400 stuff that I did I used, and yeah, I did notice a difference 840 00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:02.360 on it too. I need to see if they have a seventy seven hundred 841 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:07.000 kit. But but that'd be an interesting topic as well. Okay, all 842 00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.039 right, well, good to know that that's that's who's speaking, that's Friday. 843 00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:13.159 And if you need tickets, so if i'll post it in the end 844 00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.800 of the chat or where to order tickets for the either two of the dinners, 845 00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.360 or just email me and you know NFO at flex Radio dot com, 846 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.519 we'll get you all started out. Okay, perfect, I'll go look for 847 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:24.760 the dinner the link to the dinner tickets. Okay, yeah, I think 848 00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:27.760 Kyle shared it with me like a month ago. He's like, Hey, 849 00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:29.800 we're gonna go Thursday. I'm like, that's great, I'll go buy mine 850 00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:30.519 right now. And I went, I went and bought my tickets. So 851 00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:35.599 yeah, that's that's. I think I've been on Thursday last two years, 852 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:38.840 will the year before COVID and then every year since COVID. So yeah, 853 00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:43.719 it's definitely. It's in our insider which we send out one rate this which 854 00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:45.480 is about a week behind and it should be done this week, so we'll 855 00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:50.760 have to get it done. But I'll pop it in the chat on YouTube. 856 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:52.679 So perfect. Okay, give me a second. Yeah, no, 857 00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:58.679 that's fine, Steve. What's going on at Gigaparts anything special? Some guy 858 00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:01.840 named Jason Scoggins decided to sit across from me here in the conference room. 859 01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:07.199 Oh um, I did see in the chat somebody asked about the Explorer bag 860 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:15.280 going, um camo or olive drab. I remember what it was. Okay, 861 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:21.159 it's the Desert Tan now Khaki. Whatever we're gonna we're just gonna leave 862 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:28.719 it at the time being Desert Tan. M Okay, I know that posted 863 01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:30.239 in the Skype chat, so you'll have to dump it in it says, 864 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:35.840 I got it, Okay, I got it in the zoom chat. So 865 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.800 yeah, Jason said something about it. Um having y'all doing. I think 866 01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:45.159 it's an add on for it that will hold some of the masts. Because 867 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:49.320 my only grap about the explore bag it's not tall enough to hold my spider 868 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.800 Beam's mask and therefore not my Well, it's not gonna hold a fifty foot 869 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.280 carbon fiber that you guys make, but that little squatty one that that you 870 01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:58.400 sent me a sample of it wouldn't hold. It was too tall for that 871 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:01.320 mast as well. That master's too talk for the bag, brother, But 872 01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:05.199 UM, I think you are working on some sort of ad on that'll that 873 01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:07.719 is like a mask carrying bag or whatever. Yeah, you know, you 874 01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:13.199 know our skunk works is always fully operational, right right, So yeah, 875 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.000 I'm looking forward to seeing that. But by the way, I want to 876 01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:19.280 give a plug out to de Good Parts. When you go to a business 877 01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.000 the first time, you sort of like, you know what it's all about. 878 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.719 So the beautiful storefront, but I got to go to their distribution warehouse. 879 01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:30.559 That's not a trivial place now. Every every time, every time I 880 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.320 go in there, they're like, you don't have a camera on you do 881 01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.119 You like, no, it's in the truck. Okay, you can come 882 01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:40.920 in so they will let me film anything. Yeah. Oh yeah, it 883 01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:46.239 sounds right. That's a yeah. But that is a cool place, very 884 01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:52.119 much so cool. All right, well, guys Stephen and Michael, thank 885 01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:54.280 you very much today. This is uh. I always like talking about Flex 886 01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:58.760 Radio stuff on the channel. Um, somebody somebody hit me up the other 887 01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:00.360 day. They're like hey, and they reply to when the when I went 888 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:07.480 down there and toured the facility in Austin like four years ago. Somebody recently 889 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:08.920 replied put a comment on that video and said you need to do this again 890 01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:12.000 or talk about flex radio and more. And I'm like, well, yeah, 891 01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.639 I do, but but they need to release a new radio also, 892 01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:22.800 yeah, we know, maybe we'll get bug. You can always and you 893 01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:25.000 can always see to show up. You could always be like Elcraft and release 894 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:29.800 a new radio and then have it backwarded for three years, so you know, 895 01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:37.639 sting, Well, I can't tell. Yeah, the number of conversations 896 01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:39.280 I've been in, you know, there's always an idea sitting there coming. 897 01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:45.639 Oh yeah. And fortunately and unfortunately the people that manage the numbers for the 898 01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:49.159 company art hand operators. So it's a good and bad thing, right yeah, 899 01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:51.840 right, and and say, okay, well how many can you build? 900 01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:52.760 What? You know, what's the cost to build it? How quickly 901 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.679 game bring it market? How many you going to sell? Right? Right? 902 01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:59.920 And of course you you pay for the rate when you buy a raid 903 01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.639 today. It pays for the development, and it pays for the support on 904 01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:06.880 the tail end as well, right right, you know you don't have to 905 01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.039 buy extra support. It comes with right the first two years with it, 906 01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:15.440 correct, which is a good thing. Yes, so yep, cool, 907 01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:17.920 Well, thanks guys, once again, thank you very much. For the 908 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:22.639 time today, I'll let both of you go and we will see you if 909 01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:23.840 not before, If if I don't talk to you all before, then I 910 01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:29.559 would definitely see both of you in Dayton. Absolutely. Yeah. So y'all 911 01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:30.760 have a good weekend, and Steve, I'll hit you up and we'll do 912 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:34.840 something when we when we get to uh it's not to August, but when 913 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:37.920 we get to Huntsville, we'll do something with that museum as well. Okay, 914 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.199 yeah, okay, okay, all right, Thanks guys, appreciate it. 915 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.519 Thank you for for being in the chat today. Go check out. 916 01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:51.480 I put links to Gigaparts and to flex Radio in my in the description and 917 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:53.639 the email blast that I sent out prior to this video going live. So 918 01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:59.760 thanks to everyone for joining today and we'll see you this weekend sometime later. 919 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:00.880 Seven three seven three