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All right, let's go Bred Rogan
Rodney peak not Ay five seventy la sports

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Rodney. How you doing today?
I'm doing pretty good, Fred, pretty

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good, pretty good, pretty pretty
good. I had a good night's sleep

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last night for first time in a
while. All right, what's a good

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night's sleep? How many how many
hours of good night? I got a

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good eight in? I got a
good eight? My god, yeah,

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I got a good eight. I
was in bed at ten, up at

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six. I was, uh and
wide awake at six, which was good.

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It wasn't that groggy feeling when you
wake up. You know, no

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one answers either. It was just
I was tired and and laid it down.

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When I say no one answers,
no sleep meds or anything like that.

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I put on some nice relaxing zen
music and fell out naturally, Fred

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And got up once in the middle
of the night, got up one time,

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and then was right back and uh, six o'clock rolled around, and

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man, the uh. I actually
beat the alarm, you know, I

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beat the alarm. And you know, usually Monday, Wednesday, Friday,

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I get up a little earlier because
at a session, but I don't usually

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set the alarm. But today I
did and I, uh, you know,

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when you beat the alarm by five
minutes, I was pretty proud of

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myself. Can I tell you something? Can I tell you something? First

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of all, you know, if
you know anything about health, you realize

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sleep is critical. And if you
can get eight hours of sleep, that's

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that's what's recommended. Do you know
in the last I would say forty five

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years, I have not slept eight
hours one time when I was at Channel

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four. Wow. When I was
at Channel four, and I am not

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lying to you, I would sleep
like four hours and forty five minutes a

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night. That's it, that's it. And now now I can get up

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to and I feel great today because
I slept six hours. If I can

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hit six hours, that's like eight
hours. But here's the problem. If

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you're only sleeping four and a half
hours a night, five hours a night,

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that's not good for your health.
No, it takes its toll on

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you, and I mean you will
pay the price for it down the road.

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And I did everything I could.
I just maybe my mind wouldn't stop.

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I don't know. I could not
sleep, and of course I drank

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like a fish. I don't know
if that was a problem, but uh,

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maybe that'll do it. You know, I thought it would help me.

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Okay, well maybe it did,
but not for long periods of time.

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So if you got eight hours of
sleep, that's pretty good. Yeah,

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and that's rare. That's rare because
usually it's six at most. I'm

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yeah, I'm tossing and turning or
something distracting me, or I'm up or

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whatever. I can't fall back asleep
once I get up. I mean,

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it's not consistently all the way through, and last night was, but it

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is so important. So you've been
on you on four and a half hours

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sleep on a regular Now that's that's
your time. Well, no, I'm

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up. Do you get up?
Or do you do you slay there?

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Try to go back to sleep?
I mean that's the question is like what

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do you do if you're if you're
not sleeping, do you feel like,

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okay, it's time to get up
or do you feel like I need to

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get another two hours in? Man? If I'm up, I can't go

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back to sleep. And that's the
problem. So now now I'm getting six

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hours, and I feel different than
I did, And I actually think it

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has to do with not doing the
eleven o'clock news anymore. I still get

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up early, but it's going to
bed a little earlier now, giving me

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that extra time. Yeah, but
that is tough. I mean, I'll

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tell you who doesn't sleep, Kevin, Kevin doesn not sleep. How many

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hours a night is fix o'clock in
the morning, four o'clock in the morning.

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Yeah, I mean I try to
get at least six and a half

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to seven. The key word is
try. I say I'm successful. They

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are probably about sixty five seventy percent
of the time. But what time do

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you go to sleep, Kevin?
On irregular you're trying to do it.

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It can vary anywhere between ten and
eleven anywhere within that spectrum wanted general basis,

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sometimes it's later. Sometimes if I'm
really just dog tired, which will

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happen a lot of times during football
season because that's just a grind between what

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I do here and what I do
on weekends, sometimes I might go to

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bed a little bit earlier, but
generally i'd say it's between ten o'clock and

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eleven o'clock, and I'm usually up
anywhere between four and five thirty. Yeah.

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Seeing my problem, Rodney is that
Kevin will attest to this, It'll

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be one am and I'll be seven
sending Kevin ideas. Absolutely, yeah,

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yeah, you know, It'll be
eleven thirty at night and I'll be sending

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Kevin ideas. That's the problem.
I can't. Your mind won't turn off.

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My mind won't turn off. If
I'm watching the game, I will

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sit there and watch stuff and if
something. And Kevin told me to stop

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texting him because I texted him like
six thousand times one day and he goes,

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just email me, just put them
all in one email and then when

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you're gone, just send it to
me. Yeah, right, because I

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just start writing stuff down the whole
time. I can't. I don't know

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what it is. All notes,
just notes, notes, notes, notes,

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this is that you know, nine
thirty ten, fifteen, eleven oh

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two. Just put the notes in
it in one big mass email. That's

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what I started doing because he held
at me and he said stop doing that.

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Every time I looked up and go, I look at the you know,

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the timestamp of the of the notes
that Kevin sends us notes every day,

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and I look at the timestamps.
Sometimes those timestamps are like five thirteen

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am. Yeah, you know,
yeah, I forty Kevin, you do

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you said a timer for the night
before to send it down at five forty

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five and nope, no, he
just he's up those alive. Yeah,

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you guys track your sleep. I
have that on my watch where it tracks

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my sleep, so now I know
how many hours I sleep. And it's

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funny. If it says I slept
six hours, Psychologically I tell myself,

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man, I'm doing great. But
if I slept five hours and forty minutes,

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I say, man, I'm screwed
all day. And I don't even

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know if there's a difference, quite
frankly, but when I see it,

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that's the first thing I do.
I look at that phone, I go

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tell me it's six hours. If
it's six hours, I feel great.

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If it's five hours and fifty nine
minutes, I'm screwed for the entire day.

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But sometimes as soon as you see
it, he put you in a

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mood. I see you're like,
you didn't reach the goal you're under the

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time that you wanted to sleep.
It automatically triggers something in your brain and

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your emotions that you're screwed for the
rest of the day. Yeah, And

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there will be times during the day
where I'm doing this or I'm doing the

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TV show here, or I'll just
start to get tired. But I don't

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even know if I am tired.
I think my mind is telling me I'm

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tired because I didn't sleep six hours
today, I'll fly through everything. Nap.

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Are you a napper? Can you
nap? When I was at NBC?

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Truly, when I was at NBC, there were areas. We had

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an office that had a couch in
it. If you came in at a

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certain point in time, I would
be sound asleep, and I slept for

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fifteen minutes. It was always fifteen
minutes. If I got fifteen minutes at

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some point in the day, then
I was fine. It's all it took.

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Fifteen all it took. Or if
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thirty, I would sit in this
chair and close my eyes fifteen minutes and

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I was ready to go for the
eleven. That's all I needed was fifteen

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minutes just to kind of recharge.
And I didn't send an alarm or anything.

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It would be fifteen minutes every time. Every time fifteen minutes you felt

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that, you know, your body
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Time to get up. Yeah,
And when I wake up too, you

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know you said you go back to
sleep. When I wake up, I

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am up, shoot out of bed, I'm up, boom done. The

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minute I open my eyes, I'm
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It depends from me. It depends
like if it's early, if it's

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like a I'm trying to get up
at six and I get up at four,

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you know, like we do at
a certain age, have to go

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to the bathroom, and I know
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hours. If I can get that
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if it's early in the night,
like if it's two am, I can

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get back to sleep. But that
last two hours, which is usually the

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best part, is like the good
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know, four to six, whatever
it may be, or three to five.

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That last two hours is great.
But if I get up, you

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know, around in that time,
I can't go back. I can't go

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back to sleep good. How many
hours? If we ask our listeners,

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how many hours an I do use
sleep? Okay, percentage wise? How

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many do you think would say eight? Eight hours? Percentage wise? I

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think that'd be a low percentage.
So why so to why okay? So

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what do you think the average would
be for our listeners six? Yeah,

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I think so. I think you're
right. What's s six? I mean

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a lot of our listeners are on
the road, right, truck drivers,

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delivery people. There's a few fair
amount people in the office. But yeah,

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I would say six hours, six
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eight, but I would say it
on average people will get get six.

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Yeah. And here's the other thing. So some people go to bed earlier.

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Right, if you go to bed
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that because pardon me? Can you
do that? Like? You know?

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I know that you're off the eleven? Now you're off the eleven. Can

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you can your body clock tail you
eight? Be? Yeah, I'm I'm

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out by eleven now as opposed to
be it out by twelve. No,

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I'm definitely out by eleven. I
used to I used to fall asleep by

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twelve forty. Yeah, so I'm
probably a sleep times ten thirty. So

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if the Dodgers or Lakers are playing, right, yeah, you watch the

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game, think about it for a
minute, then I go to sleep,

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and it's much healthier. It's a
much better way to work. And I

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can tell you from doing the news
at eleven o'clock at Channel four. That

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more people operate like that now than
ever before they go to bed before eleven

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o'clock at night. Right, I'll
bet you if we took the average time

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people go to bed, it's between
ten and eleven. Yeah, I agree,

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I agree at least that's the goal. But I think, yeah,

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I think most people try to get
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your overall point about where the where
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entertainment watching the news kind of thing. It used to be definitely after

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that, I'm not going to bed
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at least still eleven thirty, you
know, whereas now it's not, as

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you know, it's instant gratification,
so you don't people don't stay up just

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to watch the news anymore. So
they're out. But when you were working

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at Channel four and you did the
eleven o'clock, what time would you go

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to sleep then? Would it be
midnight? Twelve thirty, twelve forty twelve

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forty And could your body shut down? Yeah, there's a lot of times

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that you know, after doing something
like that, the adrenaline's still there and

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your body can't shut down for a
period of time. It became routine for

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me after a while, so I
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when I got home after the eleven
and I laid down, I could go

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to sleep, but I didn't sleep
soundly. So then it was like four

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hours and forty five minutes. And
it's interesting because when I started doing the

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eleven o'clock News at Channel four,
and that was, you know, forty

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four years ago. TV was different, Our worlds were different, and that

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was the show of record. If
you did what I did for a living,

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that's the only show you wanted to
be on, was the eleven o'clock

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News. If you were there,
you had made it. Well, you

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know, times changed and people change, technology changed our world. And now

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the eleven o'clock News. And by
the way, it was the biggest profit

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center at the TV station, the
biggest profit center. It was like thirty

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five percent of your yearly revenue came
from that thirty minutes at eleven o'clock.

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Think that, yeah, we're still
than the five o'clock, six o'clock hour.

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Huh oh yeah wow. Yeah.
So now if you look at it,

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the eleven o'clock news broadcasts across all
stations and across the country, there

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are blips on the radar screen very
few people watch. So in Los Angeles,

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for example, maybe three thousand would
watch the Channel four news at eleven

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out of sixteen million people. Think
about that. And right now, the

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area where people do watch local news
is the afternoon block five and six.

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Because our worlds have changed time and
I'm sure the demographics too will tell you

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something about the eleven o'clock news now
too, right that demographic is what do

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you think that? I mean,
I don't have any idea, but what

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the demographic? What is the demographic
you think of the the viewership of the

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eleven o'clock news. Well, remember
this that when the rating system was created

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back in fifties, it was twenty
five to fifty four adults. So what

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does that mean? That means that
was the target area to sell in You

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wanted to attract an audience critically of
twenty five to fifty four year old adults.

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Sure, if you could get younger
people, fined, but that wasn't

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the primary sales area twenty five fifty
four adults. And when ratings come out,

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they also come with demographics, so
you can see who's watching. And

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it's imprecise science, but it's the
only science, all right. So when

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you and why was fifty four the
end of it? Why? Because when

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they created the rating system, people
died at fifty five. That's how many

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years ago it was, and they
never changed it. So theoretically, if

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you are older than fifty four,
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you have demoed out. We love
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you to listen to us, we
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funny. I talked about this on
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we don't care. Yeah he's old. But no, in other countries it's

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not like that people are respected for
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can be cast aside. So also
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rating system, people at fifty five
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in sales disposable income. You can
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some of us live check to check
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in that age bracket sixty that have
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buy things. And that's why people
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the spot and go, I need
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That's never been taken into account.
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just got this yesterday. It was
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Springs, it's the Coachella Valley.
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fifty five plus. And I was
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don't understand because I'm killing it out
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go, I said, yeah,
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got to check on them every day
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I see out here, Rodney,
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well, you know, you know
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chapter of their life. Yeah.
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enjoying it. But what we do
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in radio because actually our audience should
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terrestrial AM radio. And sure we
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we have younger people too, So
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doesn't usually happen. It's a bit
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the audience is older, and that's
why. You know what you see

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the spots are for stool softener and
blood pressure medication, right, don't you

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that's what you say. Yeah,
they're all there. Yeah, at that

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time of night. Absolutely, you
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they go through a litany of things
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it's going to give any Are you
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why. And the point is,
and the reason our audience here is mixed

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and we have young people listening is
because we're on the app and we podcast,

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so you can access the content any
way you want. And that's how

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younger people function. When we were
growing up it was you had to make

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an appointment right on a TV show
eight o'clock Thursday night. You had to

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be there or you'd miss it.
Yeah, there's no tap in it,

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there's no watch nothing. You know. Hey, I want to why I

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missed it last night. I'm'n watch
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it last night. So I'm gonna
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the morning when I wake up.
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right, But that's how this generation
grew up, where you could access whatever

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you wanted when you wanted it.
So for us, we have people that

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listen to the show on the app
more and more stream the show wherever you

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go, you take it with you. And we also now have the ability

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if you missed anything, you can
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available to you when you want it. Because you are in control now,

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you make those decisions. And that's
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Yes we have people older than fifty
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seven, and we have women listening
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a huge demo in sports radio.
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is. I don't even know how
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sleep. Did you get a good
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did. I got one last night
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share that I got a good night's
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the rest of the day, I
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this, I got a good night
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the real Lakers please stand up.
Well, everybody hopes last night they were

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the real Lakers, and we'll talk
to Dan Waking next. Let's go.

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Let's go, let's keep it moving
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Baby, we talked about it.
I got the full eight Freddy, I'm

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ready to go right. Keep it
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right? Uh, well, last
night did we see the real Lakers?

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Well, they were playing at Land. Did we see the real Lakers.

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Hey, but find out what the
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at team right, Yeah, but
the Clippers don't have an identity. Oh

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that's right. Yeah, it's ty
Tyler's fault. They don't have an identity,

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rdy, that's the problem. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.

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Yeah, but apparently the Lakers last
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our insider from the La Times,
Dan Waking. Dan, thanks for jumping

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on. Thank you for having me. I'm very in demand today. And

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why is that because you asked a
million dollar question last night? Apparently,

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So it's funny. Can I toot
my harm for two seconds? This is

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not the type of thing I normally
would do. So yesterday it was an

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interesting day. So in the morning
I happened to win a Professional Basketball Writers

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Association award, which is very nice
for the show. Ron James, thank

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you guys, yeah for I mean, all it took was Lebron James breaking,

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you know, basketball's most hollowood record
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do it. So really I did
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so, you know, postgame,
Austin Reeves gets stunted down. I asked

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him a question he says, you
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I reminded him that, but no
one saw it quite like he did.

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And people today have been like,
this is your best work ever. It's

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just like, well it's important to
remember what people care about. Listen,

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Yeah I could, I can out
a thank really quickly. Yeah, Dan,

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was there no no thought otherwise that
you you were going to ask him

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that question? You had to get
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had to ask him. I mean
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mean, that's kind of the job, you know what I mean, And

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and and so you know, look
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who tried Anthony Davis. Oh,
Anthony Edwards, Like we asked Anthony Davis

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about that, you know what I
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kind of what you do. And
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well as I do, like I
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good spirited about it. I didn't
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who you can really ask that question, who you can need ale and who

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you can needle a little bit on
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what I mean. And I think, like, you know, luckily the

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Laker locker room. I think like
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they understand when they're on like the
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write like this is sort of old
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know, there was the players rookie
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Lebron's explaining something to him and he
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and he makes that like kind of
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know, like lash in the playoffs, people are comparing him to like the

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weird artsy kid from the wedding crashers
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like, so, I mean,
he this is you know, this is

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he's very comfortable. This is a
very comfortable place for him, like it

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or not, right, right,
Dan D'Angelo, Russell d Angelo Russell has

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I think, you know, his
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the trade talks. I think he's
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just for a period of time,
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an extremely important piece for the Lakers. Of the players out there that are

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not named Anthony Davis or Lebron James, where do you rank him in terms

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of the importance for Lakers success?
I mean, I think he's probably,

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you know, on any given night, somewhere between like three and five,

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but like more often than not third, I think, just because like what

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he so. So what I think
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right, Rodney, is that,
like you know, when we talk about

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these types of players, so like
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I would put in like that top
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are you know, D'Angel Russell,
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Jared Vanderbilt, And then probably say
like Spencer Dinwiddie right now, right,

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who's become like kind of this like
plus minus savant for this team? Right?

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So those are those are like the
guys that like on a nice night

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basis like really really matter, right, So I think the thing that Delo

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does that none of those other guys
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volume up, you know. And
I think, like the assists are great

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last night. You know, he
got to the line is cutting all that

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stuff really matters. But like,
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just sort of by the product of
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spacer. I know, he made
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and Lebron James still like that's not
really like he's been terrific this year,

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but that's not like that's not the
main event with Lebron James. Like they

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just need to shoot threes. It's
it's a math problem every night. You

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know, if the other team shoots
twenty more threason than they do, you

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know, they're gonna be uphill and
you're gonna be relying on things like making

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up that difference at the free throw
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to get those listles. Some nice
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you know, I think like last
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think with six for ten from three
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you know, just to like kind
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really really matters on this team.
I mean, I think there are nice

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when all of those guys, like, you know, I think that the

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connective things that Austin Reeves does is
sort of like a figured out player,

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you know, really kind of stands
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Ruey Hotchimer's ability to hunt a mismatch
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is like it's been sort of his
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like I said, like I mentioned, you know, we'll see when if

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Jared Vanderbilt gets back kind of the
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is that why when I say,
well the real Lakers please show up,

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it's a it's a math problem.
You know, sometimes are out shot from

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three and and that's the issue.
Sure, because you see them play against

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atlant you go, Okay, they're
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play against Golden State, you go, ooh, I'm not so sure they're

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going to get out of the plane. Warriors. Yeah, Fred was that,

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looked at that Warriors game and I
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without Anthony Davis, right Like,
I mean, that's just sort of that's

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just sort of a rule for them, right, Like they're plus six in

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the first corner when he's playing,
they're run off the floor, you know,

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functionally when he's at and like,
you know, they fought, and

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you know, if if if they
get that call on Lebron James corner three

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instead of him being out of boundary's
inbounds when it's a three point game or

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a four point game at that time. You know, I understand that if

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if Sinans were pots and pan right, like, the world will be a

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kitchen. Like I get that part
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I I that's just for me is
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the more sort of compelling like what
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of like, you know, just
why why have they been so like meandering

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against sort of the middle middle of
the pack against the league, you know,

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like they get up to play the
thunder they play hard against the timb

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Wolves, they're in these tight games
with you know, they played Denver,

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like at least they're tough in the
last couple of games, like, you

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know, Sacramento definitely has their number. But the Clippers, you know,

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you know, they've beaten a lot
of really good teams this season, so

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like, why can't they beat like
the pretty good teams? And I just

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think it speaks honestly, Fred And
I've said this on the show and I'll

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say it again. I just don't
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I don't think they can. I
just I just think that why you

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don't think they can because they're because
because they're best player is a thirty nine

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year old or their second best players
a thirty nine year old. Then he

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doesn't have like the what would you
say, the I'm trying to get the

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00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:18.079
way that put the Yeah, I
mean I was I was gonna say the

409
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:25.519
like the hood, the blank to
the wall sort of like ability to play

410
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.559
like break neck defense every night.
It's like very much a pick your spots

411
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.039
thing, and it's very much like
you that's just the reality of it.

412
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.839
Right, He's got a bum ankle
that he's playing through he's trying to manage

413
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.680
an eighty two game season. He's
been incredibly available this year, as has

414
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:48.440
Anthony Davis. But like that's the
the reality. So if you're a Lakers

415
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.319
optimist, what you're holding on to
is like you look at where they are

416
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.920
when it was like Hubber meets the
road time. I'm just throwing all sorts

417
00:28:53.960 --> 00:29:00.000
of cliches out there today. You
know, when in the end season turned

418
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:07.079
against the thunder you know in Golden
State, Uh, a classic game earlier

419
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.000
this year, Like when when like
it's just like go full on, go

420
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:15.240
time they have it now, it's
a little concerning then, like that when

421
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.920
they've gone to flip that switch against
Denver, when they went to flip it

422
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:22.200
against Sacramento, they couldn't get over
the hump. Like that to me is

423
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.720
like kind of the big question.
But but yeah, I mean I think

424
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.440
they're fred to your point. You
know, there are nights they don't look

425
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:30.960
like they're gonna get out of the
plane, and I think there are knights

426
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.039
where it looks like they can get
back to the conference finals. It's I

427
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.519
think that's just gonna be kind of
how it is with them. Yeah,

428
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:45.640
is that scary. It should be
that they can't win without without Anthony Davis,

429
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.119
and when he went out against Golden
State, it was all the air

430
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.880
went out of the building. And
they have running and they have a hard

431
00:29:52.880 --> 00:30:00.200
time winnyone, Like they don't have
Lebron playing like really hard defense, really

432
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.359
hard end defense. Like that's just
like and he just I mean, it's

433
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.480
just that's the reality of it.
It's not I don't think it's like a

434
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.440
hostile thing. I think it is
very much so a picker spots thing.

435
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:15.000
You know that that makes me think, Dan, if that's the issue,

436
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.519
and maybe they just don't have enough
gas every night, how are they gonna

437
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.920
win a seven game series? Uh
so, I mean here would be the

438
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.759
again, like the optimist argument for
this, right, the playoffs are different.

439
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.880
The game slows down like it is
harder. It is like they like

440
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.680
the general kind of way that people
describe it. It's like sort of like

441
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.559
one and a half times the mileage. So if you play forty minutes in

442
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:38.640
the regular season, you play forty
minutes the plaoffs, it sort of feels

443
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:44.279
like you played sixty if that makes
sense. Yeah, but you're not traveling

444
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:51.319
as much. But on the same
team, it's more mental and you know,

445
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.759
it wasn't like he was twenty three
last year in the playoffs like he

446
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.680
was, you know, thirty eight
and even more hurt, and they like

447
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.839
they figured it out right. So
I think that would be sort of the

448
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.440
optimistic reed. I'm the Lakers now. The pessimistic creed is is exactly what

449
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.119
you said. I mean, like
it only gets harder. You look at

450
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.839
the Western Conference, it's a minefield. You know, how are they going

451
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.599
to stop Luka Danci in the seven
game series should they need to? How

452
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:25.160
would they stop or in a one
game playing. The same goes for Phoenix.

453
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:27.799
You know, like there's a world
in which you know, the playing

454
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.680
Stephen Kurky, you have to beat
Stephen Curry to go beat Kevin Durant to

455
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.839
even to go to then to then
go play Nicola Jokic. That with how

456
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:45.039
did they stop Anthony Davis in a
how they mean? That's gotta be yeah.

457
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:51.200
I mean that's that's why they're scary
too, you know, I mean

458
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:55.960
I think it definitely cuts both ways. I mean it's why anybody tells you,

459
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.640
like with any real sort of like
outside of like when I talk to

460
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:01.799
people I had this, had a
conversation last night with an assistant coach on

461
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.599
the Hawks, and he's asking me, you know, who I thought would

462
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:10.079
come out of the West, And
like, if you say anything other than

463
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:15.759
Denver, I think you're just kind
of guessing at this point, Like you're

464
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:20.640
really guessing. Like there's a lot
of speculation that goes into anyone but Denver,

465
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.599
at least with Denver, you know, like there's like the proof of

466
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:30.039
concept is so strong. Yeah,
as far as Dan that, you know,

467
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:35.799
going back to D'Angelo and Austin Reeves
and Ruie Hotchimura, does it you

468
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.400
know, we we we've talked all
season long. Who's gonna be that third

469
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:42.559
guy, who's gonna does it matter? It's just it's just they need that

470
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.160
guy every night. They need a
third guy every night. Yeah, I

471
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:50.640
mean I think they need more than
a third guy. I mean I think

472
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.720
yeah, they yeah, Yeah,
I mean I think that's just kind of

473
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:57.039
how it is. Is like they
need, you know, guys to play

474
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.480
well. They need to be a
team that at times is where the sum

475
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:06.440
is greater than the parts. I
mean, I I think doesn't matter who

476
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.279
it is. You know, sometimes
you got a big three or you got

477
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.680
four, and you know your big
three is going to do this, you

478
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.160
know, yeah, I don't think
you d is gonna be Delo is gonna

479
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.079
give you twenty five and you can
count on that and bank it because he's

480
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:22.279
the third guy, Whereas now it's
like it could be Delo, could be

481
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:29.039
RUI yeah, yeah, I mean
I think I think Rodney there is an

482
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:34.400
element of like consistency that's important.
And I mean, like I think like

483
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.799
I would point again to Lebron and
Anthony Davis and then sort of say,

484
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:42.799
like, Okay, are those guys
there every night in these big spots right

485
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.440
like that? That that the way
the Lakers need them to be, Like,

486
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.079
you know, I mean I don't
think ad was that was there against

487
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.160
the Kings in that way last week. I think you would tell you the

488
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:59.799
same. Lebron had a awful game
last week against Sacramento. I believe if

489
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:05.359
I I can't keep totally like disappointing
Laker losses straight in my mind, but

490
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.719
I mean, oh yeah, in
Sacramento, Lebron had a very bad game,

491
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.440
you know, And on those nights, it doesn't matter if Austin Reeves

492
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.320
scores thirteen points in three minutes like
he did to start the game right,

493
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.880
Like, it doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter if you has a good game

494
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.159
or a bad game, and he
had a bad game too. I just

495
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.320
think that, like they don't have
very wide margins. I think they know

496
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:30.320
that they need to play. They
probably need to play closer to like their

497
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:37.639
A level basketball than some other teams
do, just kind of for a variety

498
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.519
of reasons. But I do think
they've got the type of depth and they

499
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:46.480
do create the types of looks and
the types of mismatches that you know,

500
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:52.159
it definitely doesn't feel like all was
lost, especially not at I mean,

501
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.360
they beat the Hawks last night,
Like that's awesome, the Hawks around the

502
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.199
second I have a back to back, But there is a stretch here,

503
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.599
guys where they're gonna play some pretty
winnable games. They're not gonna be easy,

504
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:06.559
right, Like even though like Philadelphia
doesn't have Joel and bid like Tyrese

505
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.320
Maxie is back and like he's a
real all star, right, Like the

506
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:13.320
Indiana they're gonna play Indiana twice,
you know, home and the road,

507
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.719
and like Indiana's got you know,
two hundred and fifty thousand reasons to be

508
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.400
met at the Lakers from the tournament, right, and they're gonna come after

509
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.400
them, and they had to Pascal
Siakam and and then like that team is

510
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:29.639
like, you know, dangerous,
but the Lakers should Like the Lakers will

511
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.559
be favored against Philadelphia, they would
be favored against Indiana. They will not

512
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:36.519
be favored at Milwaukee. But my
my gut would tell me that they'll be

513
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:42.280
favored in Memphis, in Indiana,
in Brooklyn, in Toronto, and in

514
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:47.320
Washington, DC. Like that's their
next seven games, right, So to

515
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.039
me, like, I think we'll
answer all of these questions like how serious

516
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:55.760
are they and if they really ratchet
up, you know, their sort of

517
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.880
intensity. I think, you know, the census is that they're gonna get

518
00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:01.800
some bodies back here soon. That's
kind of the feeling. I know there's

519
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:05.119
some reporting today that that might not
be the case. That's not what I've

520
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:10.119
heard. I think they're like game. Vincent feels close, Jared Vanderbilt probably

521
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:15.280
behind him, came Rettish feels close. You know. I think this is

522
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.000
this is where you kind of you
take the governor off the engine and like

523
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:24.440
this is where you kind of let
it rip. That's a golf cart.

524
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:30.320
That's a golf cart. Go before
we let you go real quick here because

525
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:34.760
we're running short on time. Got
to ask Clippers, uh seem to be

526
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.719
struggling. Paul George says, we
have no identity. Uh tyrone Lew says,

527
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.599
maybe it's my fault. How could
you be so good and then find

528
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.880
yourself in this situation? Because eighty
two games is a really long season.

529
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:52.320
And once you kind of establish I
think, like like that you're real in

530
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:58.199
terms of your contendership and the Clippers
I think are very real, then you

531
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.840
just kind of have to wait for
the playoffs and it's like, again,

532
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:06.559
perfect world. You would watch this
team every night honing, sharpening its craft.

533
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:08.119
But I mean, to me,
like they've kind of come out of

534
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:12.760
the off star break mostly like a
team that's just kind of bored. I

535
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.199
do think that the Westbrook injury has
hurt them. You know, they've missed

536
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.639
his playmaking, and they've been a
little banged up, and they've missed Paul

537
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:23.559
George sometimes they miss kwhile Leonards some
games. You know. But I think,

538
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:29.800
to me, I kind of still
believe in like the overall sort of

539
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.880
packaging on this team, and you
know, if it looks like they're headed

540
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.719
for a four or five matchup of
New Orleans. Tough series, not an

541
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.079
impossible one, even though I know
they just lost the Delicans, Like I

542
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.519
mean, I think that's you know, they're they're they're built for to win

543
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:51.039
a handful of these. All right, Dan, appreciate the time as always,

544
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.039
thanks for jumping on, and we'll
talk to you soon. Guys,

545
00:37:53.320 --> 00:38:00.639
always appreciate you look forward to it, all right. Good stuff and wiki

546
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:07.599
good stuff always and congratulations again.
Yeah, all right, next to our

547
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.440
Dodger fans, we'll open the phone
lines, not yet, we'll set it

548
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.920
all up for you when we come
back at one o'clock. Uh. And

549
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:20.960
also at one o'clock we're going to
talk about the changing marketplace and Scott Boris

550
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:28.599
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553
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555
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561
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562
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from the Court to the court Room with

563
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Jacob m RONDI. Alright, righty, now our weekly chat with our good

564
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friend Jacob EMROWDI proud partner of L
A f C and the Lakers and Jacob,

565
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:06.480
how are you I'm doing? Did
you just call me Jacob and Rob

566
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:16.440
d No, No, I called
you Jacob and a mommy. Oh man,

567
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:21.760
I knew there was something you'll try
to let that kind of slide by

568
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:23.119
a little bit. Well, No, that was your old commercial. That

569
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.320
was your old commercial, Jacob.
So I just went with that. I

570
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.599
figured, I figured, I waved. How are you guys? We're doing?

571
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:35.880
Where are you? Where? Am
I. I actually am in a

572
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.239
conference room sitting with a client of
ours, and as soon as you called,

573
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:44.199
I've stepped up so that I can
have a conversation with you and our

574
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:47.199
birthday boy, mister Rodney, right
on, right on, Thank you,

575
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:51.159
Jacob, thank you, well,
good look at you put us at that

576
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.039
in priority. I hope the client
is okay with that, Jacob. I

577
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.039
don't want to put you out.
Actually, actually, you know what it's

578
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.960
it flowed. It was a very
good flow because just finished speaking to him.

579
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:04.360
You know, we have a client
of ours who was involved in an

580
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:08.519
accident on August second, and then
the next day was involved in a second

581
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:14.119
accident, back to back, and
then two weeks later was involved in a

582
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.639
third accident. And it's always so
so so complicated trying to you know,

583
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:22.320
separate all those accidents and whether he
was injured from all three of them,

584
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:27.320
and which body part was injured.
So, you know, usually when you

585
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.840
look at these things, people think
getting into an accident multiple accidents is actually

586
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.719
a you know, is a good
thing for them. They believe that,

587
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.360
oh, well, I have three
cases. But unfortunately sometimes you have to

588
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:43.079
take a lot more time to be
able to explain to them that having multiple

589
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.760
accidents number one is not good for
anybody because you're injuring yourself. But number

590
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.280
two, it complicates the matter,
and as attorneys we have to be able

591
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.440
to navigate through all of the different
you know, body parts and injuries and

592
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:59.320
be able to tell their story to
the insurance company. Jacob, do you

593
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:02.360
need us speak with the client?
Yes? Or no? I think we're

594
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.960
good for right now. I think
he's good for right and definitely not you

595
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.599
Frid some advice, you know that. I'll be happy to step in if

596
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:15.960
you need me. My mother wanted
me to be an attorney. Oh you

597
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.719
are you are an attorney. You're
just an attorney, you know, you

598
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.679
know on radio rather than you know, in the courtroom. All right,

599
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:24.280
let me ask you this since we're
on this, we'll just do this right

600
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.800
now, because I've been wondering,
if you're in an accident case, how

601
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.719
long should it take to get this
thing resolved? Jacob. Yeah, that's

602
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.840
a great question, and I think, you know, many people misunderstand the

603
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:42.800
concept of how long it should take. You know, many people watch TV.

604
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:45.519
They're watching Law and Order. It's
a one hour show, you know,

605
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.559
in the fifteenth minute, something occurs
and in the seventeenth minute, they're

606
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.960
in a courtroom and they think this
is exactly how the legal process works.

607
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:58.440
But the reality is, you know, when someone's involved in an accident,

608
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:05.800
it's important to make sure that if
your case is one where your injuries have

609
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:09.639
resolved quickly and you don't need to
see any more doctors, then that case

610
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:15.079
is going to resolve quickly. But
it's always interesting when our clients want their

611
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case to be settled in three months, but we're the sixth month and they

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still say, my body hurts and
I still need to see more doctors.

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So what I always explain to people
is that every case is different. What

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occurred to your cousin or your neighbor, and you know how their case went

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and how much they got or how
much they didn't get, does not apply

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to your case. We look at
every single case based on the merits of

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that person's injuries. We always encourage
our clients not to settle their case immediately

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if they're still injured, and if
they have the opportunity to continue to work

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on their health. You know,
at the end of the day, they

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I always tell my staff, we
are attorneys that tell a story. We

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tell the story of a client that
the insurance companies trying not to want to

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hear. The insurance company's job is
to look at every one of these clients

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as a number and as a name
on a file. But our job is

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to bring these clients and their injuries
to life, and every one of those

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cases has its own, you know, life cycle. We have cases that

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are settled in maybe four months,
and we have cases that we're now five

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years in and we're still battling.
And I always tell our clients, do

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not rush. This is not a
rush against the time, because how am

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I supposed to prove that you're going
to be suffering from this shoulder injury two

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years down the line. If after
two months you want your case to be

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settled, and when you explain that, they understand that this is really not

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a rush, you know, to
settle your case. It's really more of

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a rush for you to get better. And the client that we have that

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actually care about their health, which
is a type of clients we try to

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you know, we try to represent, then it's easier to tell their story

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and they don't care whether the case
settles in three months, five months,

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or five years, as long as
their story is told. And how difficult

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is that, Jacob, for someone
to be patient, I mean, even

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with your expertise and people that look, I just this is going on too

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long. I need my money.
I need to get this done with.

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How difficult is that for your your
clients and you to convey that to your

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clients. Extremely difficult. And I
think you just hit it, you know,

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on the head. I think if
an individual's focus is I need to

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get my money, and then it
makes our job much much more difficult because

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in order to get just this you
have to allow, you know, this

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story to play itself out. If
somebody looks, you know, to have

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a case and have a quick cat
payout, they're the ones that the insurance

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company loves because the insurance company takes
advantage of them, dangles a couple of

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you know, a couple of thousand
bucks or a couple of hundred bucks in

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front of and if they're in it
for the money, they're settling it immediately.

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When I use the word money,
is that you know, when you're

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injured in any kind of an accident, you have the right to payment suffering

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money. So we understand that if
you file a civil action, which we

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do you're going to get paid,
you know, a financial you know,

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what you would call a retribution or
a financial payout based on your injuries.

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But I think communication around me is
the most important part. And you know,

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there's only so many hours in a
day. But when you sit with

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your client and you explain to them
if they're in financial need, then of

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course they're going to push to get
their case settled as quickly as possible,

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because don't forget, many people who
are injured, they can't work, they

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lose their car, they don't have
the money. You know, if they

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can't work, they can't pay their
bills. Sometimes unfortunately they can't allow their

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case to sit around. And if
those are the people, then it's their

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case. They tell us what to
do and we will do the best for

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them. But usually you have to
allow your you know, your attorney to

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protect you and allow your case to
you know, play itself out. All

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right, Jacob, before we let
you go a Laker thing because you are

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a proud partner of the Lakers.
We're chopping this up with Dan wiki earlier.

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You know, the Lakers are so
up and down and and Dan believes

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here's the issue. If you cut
to the chase. They just don't have

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enough gas in the tank to do
it every single night. So that led

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me to ask him, do they
have enough gas in the tank to do

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it in a seven game series in
the playoffs? What do you think I

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think they do. I think,
you know, still, you know,

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having Lebron James on your team.
I don't think anybody wants to go up

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against the Lakers while they got Lebron
on the team. I think another thing

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we have to take into consideration is
they've been playing some really good teams back

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to back to back, and overall, I think they've played well. I

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think the record shows that they can
play and match up against anybody in the

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league. I think what's going to
be important is are we going to get

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some of those guys that are right
now injured back for the playoffs so they

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could be deeper. Is Vando going
to be back? You know? Is

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Gabe Vincent going to ever play again? Right? These are the things.

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I mean, we just lost Christian
Wood and it appears he's going to be

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gone for a long time. But
I think, you know, the likes

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of somebody like Van Dooh is really
important because you don't have too many six

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for ten. You know, basketball
players that can guard the best player on

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the other team, or can play
defense, or even can bring the ball

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up. So I think it's going
to be all about, you know,

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attrition. I think it's going to
be how healthy they'll be. And I

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still don't think anybody would like to
play it, you know, against the

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Lakers in a seven game series,
and even that game that they lost,

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you know, to the Warriors.
I think, you know, losing Anthony

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Davis is a big, big loss
in a game like that, and I

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know we ended up losing that game, but you know, the health of

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Anthony Davis, health of Lebron James, and you know, they're hitting these

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three pointers. Early in the season, they were taking really really crappy three

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pointers. Now they're taking good three
pointers. You got d Loo, you

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know, just tie the record and
he'll know break it hopefully Friday night.

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I mean, there's some guys that
are you know, that are doing things

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for us that we've not had in
the past three or four years. So

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you know, I'm optimistic about what
they can do as long as they just

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you know, hopefully get into the
top eight. Hopefully they don't have to

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be a nine or a ten,
and I think right now there I think

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one and a half or two and
a half games out of the eighth place,

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so it's still still pretty close and
hopefully you know they can make that

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run at the end. All right, well, Jacob, thanks for jumping

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on walking out on your client again. If you need us, we are

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available, and no, I will
be taking you guys up on that,

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you know, on that favor,
I will definitely do it. I think

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sometimes maybe talking to you will probably
make them feel better than talking to me.

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All right, Jacob, have a
good week. Thanks you guys,

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take care, bye bye. All
right, later this hour, this upcoming

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hour, we'll open the phone lines
and we'll explain what we're going to do

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as we get a little closer.
When we come back, Blake Snell has

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signed a deal with the Giants,
not the deal he wanted. Why we'll

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get into it.

