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The following is a presentation of Playfly
Sports Properties in Michigan State Sports Properties.

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Well. Hello, oh, and
good evening. It is Tuesday, April

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twenty fifth, twenty twenty three.
I'm your host, Jason Straighthorn Alaw with

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my co host Otis Wiley, Jayu
Chew Chew Culcherk. This is Sparta.

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Got a jam packed show today.
You know, lots of things to talk

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Well, some fellas, how was

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the weekend? Look what's today?
Tuesday? Tuesday weekend? Like, what

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was it? It was great talk
I hob I it was a good song

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our guy, Steve Kyle. You
had Chuck Brandley, Yeah, Chuck Brandley

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Adam signing. Let's look at a
couple of pictures from there. Yeah.

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Man, it was good to little
dB support from Ashton Henderson or Dippitty a

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d and see Kyle Man. You
know, Kyle had to get into it,

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Zach. You know they lined up, man, but I had to

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tell a little if we had to
put the disclaimer out there. Man,

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Like listen, Chuck just got surgery, man, Like, no one was

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hurt in this this accent here,
but no, it was good to show

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some love to Chuck. And uh
it was good to eat. Some had

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those man, I had those.
I had those, man like man,

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I had to bacon bourbon jam Man, slap your own mama. Good,

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tell you that it slapped your mama. Good to you. I mean,

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how was your weekend? Man?
My weekend was good? Man? Started

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you know what's in I can't Ohio
for the weekend for the USFL Michigan Panthers

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game boy. Yeah, home.
You know they haven't asked you to suit

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up, like you got somebiity,
like, didn't ask you to suit up.

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I ain't about that. It's not
enough dollars, right, you can't

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get one TV one. I need
a couple more commas. Oh look,

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Johnny can Stands said, listen to
you over the weekend, you were great.

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Yeah, try trying to channer in
my inner Jason Strayhorn there, man,

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so your play by play gud might
be a little upset at you.

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Got so be careful, man,
Like you don't even give us full Like

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how is it being on the air, you know, yeah, with the

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us FL. But like talk about
that, man, I know that's a

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big, big feat for you.
Yeah, it's uh, it's definitely.

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It's it's different because like you have
to realize and Jason, you're gonna know

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exactly what I'm talking about when I
said, it's like you're sitting there watching

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it, but you got to explain
it to someone who's just listening, and

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you got to paint that picture for
them as if so they can see what's

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happening. And it's the USFL is
faster in time wise, with the play

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clock and everything. Then the NFL
or college, so you have to get

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your thoughts out quicker and everything like
that. But it's really cool, man,

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It's good. There's a lot of
guys that played at high level that

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are, you know, just vying
for an opportunity for another shot at the

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league. And this is done at
the right time. So when their season's

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wrapping up, NFL training camps will
be starting and these guys will be you

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know, have the opportunity to have
film out there. And one guy that's

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balling out in the USFL right now
is corner uh former Spartan Josh Butler.

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He is having a day. He
is using otis. He had two PBUs

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that you would be so proud.
It was just perfect technique and everything,

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like like coach Barnett taught him,
well yeah hook slot yeah, and Josh

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Josh Butler, you know, like
he said, he's a dude that you

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know, Spartan Nation know him.
But don't be surprised if he gets a

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call to go to an NFL camp
at the end of this uh this spring

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season, because that's the opportunity that
he needed and he jumped to it.

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He got the call when he was
living in la He got the call at

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three am saying, hey, we
want you to come. He jumped in

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his truck and drove down. You
know. So he had his dogs with

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him and everything, and yeah that's
what known for him, right, you

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know, the dogs on senior day. To man, you know what,

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we got to get him on as
a guest man because we can set it

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up and we might know somebody know
somebody. Yeah that's good, man,

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good, that's excellent. Man.
Two and oh, looks like the luck

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is rolling this see if they continue. Man, I mean that's that's awesome.

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Troit. Are you in Detroit this
week? To Detroit the next four

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weeks? But to this is gonna
be the first week at home. And

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talking to those coaches, they're like, we got to be two and oh

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going home because I think Detroit is
gonna be the Seattle the battle Hawks off

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the USFL. They're gonna have the
most fans in the stands. They're gonna

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be excited about it. Detroit doing
a lot of big things for the games,

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the things and everything. This week. WWE wrestler Big E who we

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played against Otis and he played at
Iowa. Lineman uh So he's gonna be

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em seeing the night at Ford Field. So it's gonna be a unique experience.

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It's gonna be really cool. I
might be there, man, I

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might be making an appearance my brother. Let me let me know. Yeah,

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let's see. Let's see how he
treats me the reverse. Let's see

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how we get treated with the road
out for me. You know that'd be

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great. Man. Man, You're
luck to you guys this week as we

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continue. Man, you know there
there was a national championship another one guys

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that came to east Lands and this
time it was the dodgeball team. We

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talked about it before, but they
Settle celebrated their national championship at home with

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you. Check it out? Where
else does anybody recognize what that is?

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Where else would you go? That's
the place that champions go to celebrate ricks

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s c r straight to ricks.
Man. Look, you were so you

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were there. Let's seen you.
Cho was in both of these pictures.

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You see got the Michael Jackson Thriller, polls Man Tiger. Yeah, Man,

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the Blowfish and those guys. That
was a legendary night at ricks.

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You were there, Man. When
I did the marig to you was like

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twelve legendary night at Ricks. Could
you imagine if at Rix, if those

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walls could talk woods and there?
Oh my god, who knows? Man,

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But congratulations again to the dodgeball team
man national champs. Uh but guys,

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you know, talk about some sparks. Man Like, let's talk about

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an old spotan dog who's kind of
changed over his field of play. Now

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he's it's Le'Veon bell Le'Veon belle is
boxing. He had hell of a fight

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he won. Hey, he's uh, he's speaking into existence. He's like,

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it's gonna be a bloody if you
saw that video. I don't know

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if you watch him follow him on
social, but you know it's the fandom

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of like the hype talk where he's
he's felt right into what probably he's most

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comfortable with just talking at that cash
and that trash and he backed it up.

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Man. I still think about when
he fought against Adrian Peterson and you

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know, knocked him out. So
I think he's I saw I saw some

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outlandis he wants Logan Paul next.
I saw that. Hey, Logan,

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see what I can do? K
and Sid see what I can do?

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Both of them they want to smoke
one. I can get the one there,

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we get shuted up, brothers,
make it happen. Hey, you

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look at Lean and Trim though,
Yeah, get the one eighty. Remember

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him playing his last game in Green
and White man like two fifty five thirty

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five. Yeah, that last game
gets Minnesota. Bro, he was up

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the shoot from running back to a
four running back clearly like talk to us

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man like, obviously it was a
great running back, But I mean to

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cross over to boxing. You know, it's it's a tough feat to do,

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and he's he's looking like he's enjoying
it and knocking people out. Yeah,

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it's it's definitely a tough feat to
do. Uh. But it just

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goes to show that running backs are
like here we go. But but if

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I'm livon, you don't you don't
want logan Paul, you don't want that

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smoke, Like I get it.
You know, it's it's gonna be a

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great payday. But you know,
let's let's work. Let's work. Let's

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work the system here a little bit. Hey. I was like, I

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feel like he's gonna come on here
and just be like, no, bro,

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I've talked that talk. I don't
care. You don't get paid to

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get knocked out regardless of me.
That's what I'm saying. If you don't

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remember spending that money, man,
Hey, Benny Fowler, he was.

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That's the best athlete he's ever played
with, and that says a lot.

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Benny played with a lot of great
athletes. Now we were spending some time

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with him. So hey, man, look, that's that's your task.

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You gotta go. We gotta track
Le'Veon. Now bring him on the show.

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Do the people want to see Le'Veon? Come on the show and let's

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talk some boxing and some old Spartan
stories. If that's the case, then

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we got to get some engagement.
If we do, I'm sure we can

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coax them to get on the show. So we just got to do it

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through social media. The power of
social media. We can probably get him

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here, guys. So another news. You know there's a high school down

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in Florida. You know that we
have a recruit that we're trying to get.

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This guy by the name of David
Stone. Nobody, nobody's paying attention

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to that. I amg Academy sold
today for one point two five billion,

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fellas, And the thing that you're
missing is I took a look at that

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this sold for one one point two
five billion cash. Yeah, don't forget

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the cat. Yeah yeah, nothing
known about it. This ain't no savvy

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made, This ain't no like I'm
real man, Like that is an absolute

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like like option for what they built
it with to then what they sell sell

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it like endeavor. That's what,
like I said past employer of mine,

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I mean, they're beast in the
in the market. Man. It's a

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it's a piece of work where they
they will and do it, get it

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right to where it's beautiful, and
you sell that thing. And I honestly

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want to know what that group is
going to do, like is keep it

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consistently like or revamp it up and
start building a little bit more. I

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don't know, but I haven't seen
you're you're a parent straight. Have you

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received some communications of this cell?
Yeah? There was, there was an

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email that came out this morning before
all the you know, but yeah,

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not a lot of communication about it. The group that bought it is an

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Asian group that that's like a private
equity group that has about eighty two other

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schools around the world. So you
know, one of the things that they

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their mission is to try to get
more sports involvement for people to get into

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you know, English speaking universities around
the world. So I think they're going

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to be bringing those eighty two campuses, like some of the athletes out of

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there over to IMG to get them
some some high level coaching. I don't

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know what it says about the football
team. That's one thing that that's a

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little bit in the air from my
business hat says. I don't know how

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much sense it makes my you know, football fandom says, man, make

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it bigger and better. But we'll
see what happens. You know, when

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I hear the type of company that
bought it, it just seems like it's

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going to be more you know,
tennis, golf, volleyball, those types

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of things will cross. But we'll
see what happens with football. Yeah,

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see that point straight My whole thinking
behind this because Endeavor and All and Dever

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owns ufc US and they merged,
They just recently merged with WWE. They

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Nevor bought WWE for over I believe
it's like nine billion dollars and now they

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have a comorant that they're going for
and then their publicly trade to come for

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you know, with coming in at
twenty one billion. So there's a lot

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of money that was thrown around there. But the thing that concerns me with

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this new organization coming through is the
fact about you know, IMG has something

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very good going. You know,
they they're preparing kids for the next level

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in athletics and for college. If
it's not broken, don't fix it.

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You know, let you know you
can acquire it. You know. But

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I'm just saying, I'm I'm with
you straight. I'm a little you know,

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on the fence. You see what's
gonna happen with the football because IMG

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cop athletes into college. You know, these kids get an opportunity that they

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would never get out of high school. You got a guy like I just

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want Davie Hall. I don't talk
about the people that are not here.

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You got a guy like Jordan Hall. I love it. You know that

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came in and look at look at
what he's doing, look at the impact

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that he's at in such a short
time. So that is what I want

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to see continue because these guys are
coming in with the mind, the and

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the body to play at the next
level. So I hope this new organization

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doesn't you know, taint too much
of that, try to make too big

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of a splash and get bigger than
Theirches. Like he's out there with that,

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he's out there with the other lady. The thing that David Stone with

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me is I don't like at the
end of the day, this gotta come

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to an end, Like we gotta
we gotta make a decision. You can't

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be coming here, going there and
come in here going and like it's just

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now, it's just coming. It's
just a facade. It's just it's just

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you know, like at the end
of the day, make me that's what

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it is today to you sound like
me, You sound like us old heads

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out here. It's different now for
these kids that is different. But I

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know a point where it gets played
out. He's playing with their emotions,

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right, how many how many times
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are you recycling those fixtures? Like
that's the thing it's like now, is

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it just all for social media likes
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know, like you're going back and
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need? You know it's between us
and oh you, but like what what

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more do you want? I gotta
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the other schools videos and join up. Oh man, it's like that sounds

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like Sugar Knight. That was I
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It is crazy. I mean,
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with another coach that was a Power
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a former teammate that's a Power five
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the twenty four to seven around the
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The players, these kids are feeling
the same pressure. I mean, they

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don't know they got Ohio State.
All these people in the school putting pressure

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on them. The parents don't know
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guys. Then you have guys that
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guys like David Stone that are playing
the game just to try to get

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their followers up and you know,
basically raise their overall value. And the

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way things stand, it's a lot. It is a crazy world. We

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can have like several shows on this
maybe we will. We'll have to have

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Oldest break us down with a seminar
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athletics and MMR rights goes. That's
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this now. And I don't know
if we talked about this on here or

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not, but uh, the NCAA
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take unlimited yes, yes, and
everything like that just PADDs to like as

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a parent, as a pair of
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going to be playing at the next
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parent, really, you know,
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gotten to the unlimited. They're just
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five guys at the end of that
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see parents passed out in the in
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dizzy, Like how many pitches can
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can you see? Facilities start blending
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and you know the coaches are all
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Commit. It's a lot. Now
you're going to add more, Like you

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said, it's going to be unlimited
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to shake out? They didn't give
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schools still have fifty six visits to
give out guys. So that means who

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is going to be affected by this. It's going to be that developmental player

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that we talk about a lot.
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chips, the five and four stars
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guys that don't have the name or
whatever it is behind them right now,

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or they may not have grown into
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get those official visits of Power five
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wealth in my opinion, to the
lower tier schools are going to get more

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talented players. It's the way of
this world with the transfer portal and everything

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that goes along with it. Guys. I mean, there's a lot going

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We could do a whole show on
on this. Want to get to our

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guests, but talking about this subject
in particular, what happened, we have

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to mention what happened, what's going
on in Boulder, Colorado. The Buffalo's

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prime coach, Prime Deon Sanders.
There's been a mass exodus. Guys.

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It says thirteen right now, it's
twenty as of Saturday have hit the portal

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as of right this minute. Maybe
it's more since we got on the air,

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like I don't even know what.
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Like it's a Max excedus. It's
like what's gonna really, it's what's

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gonna happen, Like clearly you got
to go attack the portal, which he's

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been open and honest about attacking the
portal. So I don't think there's gonna

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be a drop off, but it
is tough where you losing some foundational players

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that you should have retained, like
you had the receiver who bought out screen

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game, like youuld have thought they
had a connection like him and Shador Sanders

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have been legit having a connection this
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because like listen, this ain't it. Like something's got it, something's happening,

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man, where you know he'll be
good because I think he's getting the

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five stars coming in. I think
the writing on the wall is that if

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you're not at this level, you
already showed me what you can do,

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so go somewhere else and flourish.
But this ain't it for you. And

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I think maybe Prime is honest with
them. I wish we could be a

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fly on the wall that presentation of
like it's like the league. Hey,

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man, turn your stuff in.
Hey, we're gonna go with somebody else.

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Man, we appreciate your hard at
work effort. I'll do whatever you

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can for you, but this one
ain't for you. So we'll get you

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right man. Or like, hey, you graduating, all right, what's

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the next step. You're gonna go
in get a job or you're gonna be

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a here Like I just those conversations
are just weird, man, Like I

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wish we could be in to be
honest with you. Yeah, what do

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you think too? Yeah? I
think it's uh, there's something deeper.

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There's a deeper layer to this,
because there's no way that I get it.

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At the end of the spring game, you know, two three guys

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jump in the portal because they're unhappy
with their playing time and they're unhappy with

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spring ball. But like twenty something
guys leaving, you know, some by

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will some by like the receiver,
I'm sure he wasn't told to leave,

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you know, some of them.
I'm sure they were told, Hey,

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you know, we got guys coming
in the summer year. Spot's not gonna

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be You're far on the depth chart. We're gonna give these guys a chance

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over you, and they're leaving.
But if you're gonna have this, you

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know, this continuous revolving door,
you know, how can you go and

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recruit kids? Now? How can
you go? Are you going the basketball

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approach to hey, you know,
come here for a year, test it

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out. If you don't like it, you can leave? You know?

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Is that the sentiment that you're sending
when you're sitting in you know, a

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parents living room and saying that,
So, how are you gonna do that?

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I love coach Prime. I love
what he's doing for the game and well

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how he's elevating black coaches to those
levels, but also too, there has

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to be that, you know,
take that step back and be like,

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there, this has been done so
many times, so many years. College

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football has been there and it's been
this way for a reason. You can't

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just go and disrupt the apple cart
in one season, because you could lose

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everything like that. You got to
slowly transition, build upon the culture that's

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already there, add add your own
flavor to it, and then continue to

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go that way. Yeah, man
man that as well said, I agree

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with you, go ahead, go
ahead. How many of those guys were

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a few tough guys. How many
are those in that portal? That's a

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question right there. Clearly you still
have like who is like are we going

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to because I know we've had some
Colorado guys come over here, Like how

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many of that group is like,
are some dudes? And do you see

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us getting some of them? Because
of the relationship that you on me have

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with some of those recruits. But
that's a question. I don't know if

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you're a recruit there. If you're
a recruit there, do you leave because

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you do you feel that your coach
abandoned you the first time? And now

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do you go follow him again?
Well, we know Jared Mangham did exactly

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that, but he by way of
South Florida Colorado University of South Florida and

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then back as running back and he's
playing with his brother Jayden Mangham here.

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Did you see him close saying to
coaches, please I am a Misgan State

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spartan. Yeah, stay out of
my DMS. So the colluding's there,

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man, Like it's crazy out here, because insane. I mean it's you

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know when you see guys that going
to the portal and then within you know,

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twenty four hours, forty eight hours
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That is what you call colludion,
collusion, tampering, whatever it is.

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There's something going on, right,
But you know, how do you get

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your arms around all that? And
you know, I think that there are

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players, absolutely, there's players from
Mels tenure at Colorado. There's from the

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previous coach that just got fired.
I don't know his name at the top

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of my head. And and uh, you know just what Diana is bringing

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in, uh some freshmen that haven't
gotten there yet. There's I think fourteen

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or so that are coming in star
five stars, like only one one five

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star and three or four four stars. The thing too, though, like

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what those kids, because I'm sure
it was a spring game, so there

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are tons of recruits there. They
could have been caught up in the atmosphere,

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like I sold out stadium. You
know, this is the year before

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and then this is so now you're
a recruit. You're like, oh man,

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look at this, you know,
and you can go to coach Prime

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right now, Hey, hey,
I'm coming here, I'm coming, I'm

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coming, and Coach Prime goes,
oh, well, I got to make

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room. So that's a very that
That is exactly how that stuff works,

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ladies and gentlemen. Right there,
he's got he's got guys that are wanting

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to come in, and he has
a make room there. It is for

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the coaches are trying to recruit me. I'm sorry, I will not be

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able to get my what is this? Oh yeah, this is the one.

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The guy when he calls out Zach
Recordney basically calls out Prime here by

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saying that my film from practices last
season aren't allowed because the head coach at

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Colorado, we don't know who that
is, Prime won't allow it. This

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is very unlucky. And if you
have any questions, just text me.

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That had a lot of views.
Guys, that's like three hundred and ninety

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two thousand plus views. You know, you got to let the kid go

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if you're if you're giving him the
if you show him the door, at

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least give him his luggage that in
prison was a rental okay, right,

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you know, because there's no excuses
saying to saying, oh, you know,

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it's their concepts and everything that was
last year. You know, they're

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gonna run different concept different schemes and
everything like that. Give the man his

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luggage, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's unfortunately. You gotta

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let the have that's his resume.
The film, howe it is is a

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practice or game film, and that
that should be the property of the young

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man that's trying to Somebody gave us
the fact here here we go arts.

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Yep, lord, She says,
there are five guys still in that roster

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today. So a lot of the
guys that were asked to leave and voluntarily

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left this week were his recruits in
nineteen and twenty. So we have the

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smartest, uh you know, little
chat room in all the college football Did

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you put arts comment on that we
might need to get to peel this this

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one money is the a D.
We might need to get that buddy,

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man. I know, Rick,
come on, man, we want to

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talk to him. Yeah, how
come this is your buddy? Awesome,

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man, that's awesome. You know, I know. Other news we talked

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about, we're still in church report. We had hand faeing on Oklahoma.

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Well, that hamp Faye, former
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is now going to be a boomer
sooner. Man, you're looking at

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one hundred thousand views, like uh
two believes he's going to he's already converted

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to the tight end. I don't
know that for a fact, But I

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wish we showed those pictures of him
in front of the stadium Instagram picture of

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you know, having two gloves on
and you know, catching the football.

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I mean it's okay to wear two
gloves. Didn't Brothelisberger wear two gloves like

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there was no there was no uh
you know, the work was going to

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be played with this. You know, I got it, got some buddies

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down where you know where my cattle
is in Oklahoma, by the way,

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I know I need a cow beef. Man. I got big boys.

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You know, those guys are excited
to have them down. You know,

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he did call me to part like
an hour before we jumped down the air

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here. You know, He's like, Hey, this this guy, and

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they think, uh, you know, they all love venables down there,

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and they think he's a talent whisper. So he's gonna do good things with

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this and you know it's like,
you know, congratulations to him. That's

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like I don't know, like if
you're looking at the pro is that a

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lateral move? Is that an upward
move? Is it a down move?

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What do you guys think? Well, is this it's a great question.

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Great Now this is the first this
is the first year in the SEC,

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right, yes, next year next. Honestly from what that program has done,

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yes, I think it's a it's
an upward move, to be honest

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with you, like historically historically with
historically historically, Yeah, I mean I

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think it's for an upward move where
we're at like I feel like it was

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coach d'ser like I would say no
because like we were, we were prominent.

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But yeah, I think it's time
for you know, Bloomer sooners playing

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some great games. That river River
soow down in Texas is a beast,

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right like you are prime time football
down there. So I think it's a

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good move for him and if he
lands and successfully produces, I think he

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has a plan to go to the
NFL. I mean, he has the

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body of a solid tight end.
Like I don't see him as a quarterback,

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you know what I mean, like
to your point now that I'm looking

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at it like he's a Rocky Barbo
of Rocky Lombardi type Phil. So yeah,

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I think it's an upper move.
Look at like our girl what she

408
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:56.559
said. I'm not gonna Ben wasn't
trying to thinker put it up? Oh

409
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:03.519
man, No, you know what
I mean? Whatever, Hey man,

410
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:04.960
it's a free country. Can people
say what they want to say. I

411
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:10.480
don't know. Yeah, maybe he
wasn't. I don't know what that implies.

412
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:18.000
But you know, like like I
agree with you, maybe right now

413
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.680
it can you can consider it a
lateral move. But historically, over the

414
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:29.839
last decade or two, Oklahoma's just
put way more NFL talent out than Michigan

415
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.240
State. I would love to say
it the other way around, and I'm

416
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.759
looking forward to it changing, but
the way it was, and you know,

417
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.960
outside of what Venables has done as
a new coach coming over from Clemson,

418
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.440
the longtime defensive coordinator with Dad Bo
Sweeney has come over to Oklahoma,

419
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.319
so it's going to take him some
time to get the thing going. Oklahoma's

420
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.480
got a rabbit fan base. I
mean, it's crazy, and they have

421
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:56.759
a lot of talent that continues to
want to go there. So I like

422
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.279
the move by him, you know, because I'm sure it's a little nerve

423
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.960
wracking when you're looking around your your
quarterback one minute, then you're tight end,

424
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.640
and then as you're a tight end, they bring in like eight tight

425
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:12.960
ends into your room in December,
so that had to be a tense Christmas.

426
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:17.400
And also them walls start closing in. Absolutely, let's go back to

427
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.920
two sours. Like he still didn't
confer. Was the position full of change?

428
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.319
Like he's gonna be fully tight end? Did you get to that question?

429
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:29.240
I didn't get. I don't know
that I can't. But they're just

430
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:31.160
excited about it and excited what it
is. They think he's going to be

431
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:36.599
a tight end because Venables, it's
a defensive minded coach. He wants to,

432
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.680
you know, sustain drives, keeping
you know, guys on the field,

433
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.920
and a tight end is gonna do
that, be able to block and

434
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.839
everything like that and let the defense
go out there and win it for them.

435
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.839
And I guarantee you gonna have a
double pass already in the mix.

436
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.960
Question. Guy, we gotta move
it along because we got got to get

437
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.200
to our guests. But Will Levis, you know, NFL Draft is coming

438
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:05.279
up. Odds for will Levis went
from plus four thousand down the plus four

439
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.079
hundred in a short time. Because
there's a lot of movement out there.

440
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:12.319
There's rumors saying that he's been telling
his family and friends he's gonna go number

441
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.960
one overall to the Carolina Panthers.
Listen, we all know, and they

442
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.960
tell you one thing, it don't
matter to you. Get that call.

443
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.359
So I got it. I got
it. I got a draft story for

444
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:30.920
y'all. I'm sitting in my living
room. The phone rings, the Buffalo

445
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.279
Bills call me. It's the fifth
round. Hey, yeah, we love

446
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.440
you. We're gonna pick you up
with our next pick. I'm like,

447
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:45.559
okay, let's go. Buffalo us
on the clock the pick us in.

448
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:57.640
They go up there. They go
up there and say so it's a pick

449
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:02.359
in the fifth round. The Buffalo
Bills elect and everyonce already running back.

450
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.639
I was like, oh, let's
go Xavier Omar from I don't know,

451
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:20.519
Central Kentucky or something like that.
I'll say you mother samesease brother the same

452
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:24.239
these man. Caroline's like, hey, left rown. I went from fourth

453
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:30.079
round and undrafted. So when you're
talking about it, don't matter until you

454
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.519
get that call. Man. Like
to be honest with you, it does

455
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:37.079
not matter. It's hey, do
you remember this, Do you remember that

456
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:46.599
story about about Caleb. It wasn't
in Kellen and Hoyer. We gotta bring

457
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:52.280
Kellan on or someone. We gotta
confirm this. But apparently I believe Kellen

458
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:59.039
called Hoyer dude his draft and fact
that he was the consest we're gonna take.

459
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:07.599
I think I heard that too.
I swear somebody you know Kellen did

460
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:14.960
it. Kevin apparently did that.
When you don't go drafted and it's like,

461
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:21.559
hey, the last laugh playing boy
is older than all of us.

462
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:24.920
He's still in the league. Unbelievable
man, great, great uh career.

463
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.320
He's put together the guy. So, you know, speaking and talking about

464
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:35.440
drafts, we got the NBA draft
Akins, Look, Jay Nakins is looking

465
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.880
at testing the NBA draft waters I
would say, looking, he is,

466
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:44.000
so but he's my this is my
favorite player on the squad. Like and

467
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:50.679
I say this because he he does
what you're supposed to do in all fastest

468
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.880
of the game, and you know
loves that like loves it, like you

469
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:59.960
know that Jayden is going out there, he's gonna play defense, he will

470
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:01.960
dunk on you, he's gonna shoot
the trade ball, and he has that

471
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.400
quick first step, and so why
not just to see where you do land

472
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.400
and you have the opportunity to come
back. I love Tom's response on he's

473
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:16.719
going to be celebrated regardless decision is
So you see Coach Thomson, I said,

474
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.360
Coach Tom Izzo saying, hey,
he's grown immensely in two short years,

475
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.639
which that's facts. He's truly elevated
himself and has worked truly hard.

476
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:30.199
And so for him to do this, I love Tom that he does this

477
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.000
with the NBA, with all of
our guys that go. It's like,

478
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:36.519
let's figure out what the analysis is. If it's not what you think,

479
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.800
you know, I'm gonna tell you
what I think. But it's truly up

480
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.360
to you as a man to make
the decision, and we're gonna live and

481
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.719
die by it. And so we've
had some of these instances where remember Deontay

482
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:52.440
Davis where we thought he should have
stayed. Absolutely everybody's thought he should have

483
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:57.840
stayed one he got from money,
but really it didn't last. And I

484
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:02.239
think those are the instance instance of
examples for him to say listen, I

485
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:07.119
know what I'm talking about. So
stay one more year and I guarantee you

486
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.559
you're gonna you're gonna be going further
in the draft versus like we can win

487
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.119
the championship if he comes back,
right, So I think those are the

488
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.920
instances that there's unfinished business. I
hope he does decide what's best for him.

489
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.719
Obviously, being me, I would
love for him to just say I'm

490
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.239
coming back and then it's on.
It's on the popet. Yeah, I

491
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:29.760
like I like to quote there by
untitled Beer Ranking Show. I mean,

492
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.800
is that just Sean? Can we
just say Sean? If you look at

493
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:39.840
Shannon Brown, Jackrey Akins a similar
you know slope, it is the athletic

494
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:45.360
guy explosive. I mean, just
one of those guys that just his athleticism

495
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:51.400
belongs to the NBA and being coached
by Toime Menzel doesn't hurt. So why

496
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.360
not? What does this hurt?
To go test the waters? I wish

497
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:58.280
NFL guy like this, that'd be
cool. You know, you could decline

498
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.320
is it the portal like this right
now too? I could truly play with

499
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.199
three power of our schools if I
want, like, well, well you

500
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:07.599
saw that today with the Notre Dame. We didn't get into that. There's

501
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.679
a quarterback in Notre Dame that has
the blessing of Marcus Fraeman. Here he

502
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.400
is right here, geez, we
do have the best. This is Tyler

503
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:21.559
Buckner is entering the portal with the
understanding if he doesn't get the offer that

504
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:27.440
he wants, he can come back. See see see see see see.

505
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.599
I don't know, I don't know. I'm a I'm a US sweet hour

506
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.480
not I mean my guy, Like, what do you guys think about a

507
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.920
guy? Don't I know? Colin
Hayward did the same thing, but there

508
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:43.519
was a coaching change, so I
gave him a pass on that. You

509
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.239
know. So you know because when
coach D's last year he was gonna transfer,

510
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.559
Coach Tucker came in. They talked
and it was a good fit for

511
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.440
him and it was the best decision
for him. I don't like this.

512
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:59.119
If you're leaving, take your ass
out the dough You're not he put the

513
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:04.039
little twangoing if you're not, like, how are you going to be in

514
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.760
the locker room Like, I'm not
gonna really accept you. Wait a minute,

515
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.079
hold on, they can't. They
went out and got Sam Hartman though

516
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:15.360
from wake Forest over his head.
But you know that, you know that's

517
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:21.039
a possibility. But I'm to have
it both ways. You can leave,

518
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:27.880
So you're saying that, I look
at this as more for from the Notre

519
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.639
Dame perspective, like they would what
are they gonna lose? They're saying that,

520
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.920
Okay, go ahead, but if
not, you can come back and

521
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.440
be our solid number two in case
Sam Hartman gets hurt. I mean,

522
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.320
that's what they're saying. The thing
is that straight. The thing is this

523
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:45.280
all right? You do win a
workouts? What something you do off season?

524
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:47.519
You go you got blood, sweat
and tears and everything like that,

525
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:51.639
you go through the upstowns and everything, and that person saying, no,

526
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:53.119
I'm gonna leave to see if something, if the grass is green, are

527
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:57.440
out there, but if it's not, I'll come back to you guys,

528
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.119
Like, how do you take that? A quarterback that says, hey,

529
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:07.079
guys, I would love to be
here. They just got somebody. I'm

530
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.440
just saying, this is what it
is. This is a quarterback I'm talking

531
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:14.320
about in the locker room. And
we we're in the Notre Dame locker room

532
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.519
right now, and they brought in
Sam Hartman from Wake Forest, who is

533
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.960
clearly the number one guy that's we're
coming out of the spring right now.

534
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.639
And then this is your boy over
here that's saying, hey, look man,

535
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:28.880
I'm gonna test it because you know
there's there's roomors out there. People

536
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.960
like Alabama need a quarterback, right
and Tommy Reese, who just left Notre

537
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.760
Dame, is down there. So
so so what are you saying. You're

538
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:42.760
telling me you're gonna be pissed at
him. You're gonna be pissed off at

539
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:47.360
this guy because actually, go play
somewhere versus no, no, no,

540
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:51.400
I will not be mad at him
for leaving. I am not mad at

541
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.760
him for leaving. But I don't
want to be second fiddle. I don't

542
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:58.119
want It's like you dating a girl
and she's saying, you know, I

543
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.719
like you, but let me go
see if there's someone back out there for

544
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:02.760
me. And if I don't find
anyone better, I'm gonna come back to

545
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:07.639
you. No, you ain't coming
back to me. He's a backup already.

546
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.920
This is just like saying, Okay, that's signed chick took. That's

547
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:16.239
what he's saying. He ain't gonna
be the starter that's if if you and

548
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:22.840
I started, you're starting running that
and somebody comes in. You bought out

549
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:28.920
st you started the past year,
but there's some instances where you may have

550
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.440
been struggling. They're gonna bring somebody
else in. And they paid him that

551
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:36.400
bag and they got to play him. What are you doing you. I

552
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.519
am not saying he can't leave.
It's saying leave, just leave, just

553
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:46.000
go go, don't don't want to
come back. It's what I'm saying for

554
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:52.519
a quarterback. I mean, no
way, no way, man, no

555
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:58.480
way, no way. How can
you get that good? If he's that

556
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:05.559
good, he's gonna find somewhere else. That's what he's testing the waters for.

557
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.119
So you you would accept the teammate
back as a backup if he tried

558
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:15.599
to go out there anything, and
if he back that left as a backup

559
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:17.960
because he has been recruited over and
it's clear that he's not the starter.

560
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.000
No, not not in the least, not in the least. But I

561
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:28.079
can get it into business, is
what I'm saying. Like he used to

562
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.559
be when we played. Man,
I'm saying no, I'm saying he can

563
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.239
leave. I want him to leave, But I'm just saying the door's not

564
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:38.519
open to come back. But that
ain't the ways played. Just like when

565
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:43.440
we're just talking about ankins in the
NBA, you can test the water's different

566
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:46.920
the way seventh you can go into
the league. That's different. That's going

567
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:52.840
to the league. He's going to
another team, and he's like, you

568
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:57.599
don't want to shut it down.
It's over with. So you can go

569
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.119
to that. You can utilize a
guy because he got a recruited over his

570
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.719
head. It's his fault. Now, Okay, I don't know. I

571
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:10.760
mean, I digress, digress,
what you accept Nate carter Back. No,

572
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.760
he wants to leave gone, we
can go. I don't get it.

573
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:22.719
Well, man, look a little
baseball. Let's gotta gotta celebrate with

574
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:28.400
quick wins. Quick wins, man
baseball margin a victory ever against Michigan.

575
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.519
Yeah, yeah, this is good
man. Obviously this is on the Sunday.

576
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:36.159
I'm learning more baseball from the step
of how college is set up.

577
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:39.519
But you play these series of Friday, Saturday Sunday, and so look,

578
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.000
Friday Saturday, obviously we came up
short. But Sunday, you know they

579
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.679
turned it up. But congratulations coach
Boston. The squad of beating that team

580
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:51.679
down the road regardless of the wind. Whenever you beat them, I don't

581
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.199
we gotta celebrate it. Whenever you
beat them, you celebrated. And so

582
00:43:54.320 --> 00:44:00.800
congratulations fellas. Absolutely softball makes history. Yeah, we shared with this last

583
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.760
Thursday, but uh, you know, it was a good We looked great

584
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:09.159
obviously, but it's good to just
see this happening, like when we're here

585
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:14.880
living and breathing of this monumental breaking
barrier. So h that was a good

586
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.639
thing to see. And hopefully that
there's young girls are watching that, you

587
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.840
know, looking to coach, to
break into coaching. This is you got

588
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.639
two role models in coaching softball that
they can look up to and women of

589
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.960
color. Uh, to get it
to get in a job here. So

590
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:32.280
it was good. Good. We
gotta get show on. People asked about

591
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:36.119
getting coach so on. So that's
what's that's gonna be one of our lineup

592
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.280
guests coming on and just talk softball. We'll just talk shop with us.

593
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:43.199
So we'll get her on as one
of our guests soon. You gotta have

594
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.880
it. I gotta have it,
guys, you know what. We got

595
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.360
to get to our guests in a
minute, and we'll get to the offensive

596
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:59.039
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on me for my house. Well, guys, the moment we've all been

602
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:34.800
waiting on, and you know that
was a long first segment, but you

603
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:38.079
know you gotta have intestinal fortitude and
you have to have stick to itiveness and

604
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:42.920
guts to stand in the fire and
wait in that bullpen until your name is

605
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.480
called. And that's the only what
offensive lineman we'll do. So let's bring

606
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:52.840
on wald Lake's finest. Spencer Brown
joins, this is Sparta. How you

607
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:57.480
doing, Spence man? What's going
on? I'm doing good? But they

608
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:07.920
used to old lineman Now and right
man, hey man, you're celebrating that

609
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:13.960
you heard somebody right there. I've
seen the swipe, the double swipe pushed

610
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.280
down to put your body weight on
him and he never got up. Man,

611
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:24.400
talk about that play right there.
What's played peaceball that's against Pittsburgh.

612
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:31.360
Yeah yeah, Man, first of
all, awesome game. We came back

613
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:36.800
dream team that that team. Man, we definitely had a lot of guys

614
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:42.920
on the field. Came back,
counter helped us kind of put a big

615
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.840
one up for us. Uh Speed, Speeds was working and j Ree was

616
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:51.800
working, but it was down the
stretch. I think it was an extra

617
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.519
point conversion. I think Speed's called
the extra point conversion to put this up

618
00:46:55.119 --> 00:47:00.519
two or one. But man and
I got beat the play before, so

619
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:07.639
really I was just out there,
just out there playing. Man definitely was

620
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:13.559
talking smack back and forth all game, Dog all game, was spe talking

621
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.719
all game. Man. But man, swipe his hands down. I think

622
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.679
I just called him at the right
time, you see what I'm saying.

623
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:24.400
Caught his hands down and let him
have it, man, You know what

624
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:28.559
I mean, Let him have it. Man. We just spights talking.

625
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:31.079
Then we up. Then my boy, my boy Holiday took it back to

626
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.400
the crib. Man. So I
was in there, man, So we

627
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.360
wepins. We we learned a little
bit of a lingo language from Coach Cap

628
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:43.400
was like, you know from when
we were playing, like it was like

629
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.360
I'm sure we was growing up.
It was all about pancakes, pancakes,

630
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.960
pancakes, right, you saw I
hop and just a little plug, you

631
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.559
know, some syrup pancakes. But
he said he calls those things takedowns,

632
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:58.280
right, Yeah, like knockdown.
It's a knockdown to take that knockdowns,

633
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.920
knockdown saying God, same thing,
but you still call it what you referenced,

634
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:06.280
Like, what do you reference as
pcake? Man, I'm trying to

635
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:12.440
dump somebody, flush, flush all
that, catch your body like all that,

636
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.719
man. But I mean normally,
I mean them players just naturally happen

637
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.719
straight know what time it is,
man, I mean, you ain't gonna

638
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.440
be able to do that the play, but if you catch somebody and just

639
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.159
throw out the play, they just
naturally happened. You really can't look for

640
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:29.119
them, just like boxing, you
really can't look for a knockout. You

641
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:31.280
just you bought your way in today, you know what I mean. But

642
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:40.239
definitely got to capitalize on all them
opportunities. Spencer, you know you talked

643
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.440
a little bit about that Pit game
and you said that the Dream Team,

644
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.960
you know, you mentioned there what's
the difference from that team and last year's

645
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:52.480
team. We had pros though,
Man, we have pros everywhere. Man,

646
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.880
I mean we got pros on this
team. But I mean obviously we

647
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.320
hit the We hit the uh we
hit the genie in the bottle man with

648
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:12.320
Ken that year, I mean awesome
player. We had Connor Hayward, speed,

649
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:17.239
speed, Naylor Man. That b
line was sweet too. Jacob Pannas

650
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.000
super was sweet, Drew Beasley,
Drew Jordan. We had a lot of

651
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.800
a lot of older dudes up front. Man linebackers was cool. Oh,

652
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:30.519
Crowch was hard. Crowch was hard. Shout the cross cross was hard.

653
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.920
Caws five. We had a lot
of dudes that team, man, But

654
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.559
I feel like we was we was
cool, A lot of older dudes on

655
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:43.320
the upfront to Kevin Jarvis j carried
two pros. I mean, we had

656
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.440
we had a squad man, we
had a squad across the board. Matt

657
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:52.159
Allen good leader, coaches everybody.
Just by the end though this Uh,

658
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.559
I wouldn't say talent. I would
say we're probably more talented. This year

659
00:49:57.639 --> 00:49:59.960
team was more talented, you know
what I mean? But I just feel

660
00:49:59.960 --> 00:50:02.000
like we execution, you know what
I mean, we just got to do

661
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:05.519
a bad job of execute. But
the players, I mean, I would

662
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.079
say it's a talent drop off,
you know what I mean. It's just

663
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:13.360
a little bit more senior leadership we
had on that team. And that happens

664
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:15.400
to every program. It's a lot
of seniors league, you know what I

665
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:23.840
mean. But execution probably the difference
spence. So, so you you started

666
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:30.000
off well like Northern, some Northern, then you went to Western, right,

667
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:36.719
Okay, all right, so then
but so you came in spring of

668
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:39.960
nineteen, and you're a guy that's
seen a lot, right, we talked

669
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:45.960
about this a little bit offline.
You're a guy who came in early and

670
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:49.480
roly, which was kind of new
then it was kind of getting more regular

671
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:53.880
at that time. But you have
a coaching change from coach d Over to

672
00:50:53.920 --> 00:51:01.239
mel Tucker. Then you have COVID, Then you have tunnels shooting. You've

673
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:06.360
seen a thing, a lot of
things, man, for a guy,

674
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.320
young man, it is this is
your fifth year, right, uh,

675
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.440
this is my fourth year, but
fifth of coming up coming up right,

676
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.119
which you could technically have a six
year because of COVID. Like, you've

677
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.360
seen a lot of things, man. Like we talk about like your journey

678
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:24.039
at Michigan State coming from wald Lag, you know, the basketball focus and

679
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:30.199
then now looking where you've come to
right now as a starting right tack on

680
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:35.880
the big ten. Oh man,
I'm blessed. It's crazy because you talk

681
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.480
about all that northern I mean,
you know you've been out there. They

682
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:43.320
don't have no guys that they sit
in the school. So when I was

683
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:49.519
there, when me and my brother
was there, man like it was new

684
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:54.400
dog. It was new Man definitely. Man, it was new because they

685
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:58.199
didn't have I wouldn't say they wouldn't
have no kids like us. Definitely.

686
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:01.320
It's not a lot of blacks and
school. It might have been like two

687
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:07.159
other dudes besides me, I got
short. But other than that, man,

688
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:13.360
it was new. They wasn't really
used to that I was playing JV.

689
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:15.639
But I know I was supposed to
be on varsity like I was.

690
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:21.039
I was just getting played around with
out there. Like especially as far as

691
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:25.480
recruitment too, it was kind of
ain't really didn't believe in it because they

692
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.800
never seen it. And a lot
of the kids, I mean, it

693
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:34.559
was nobody that went to be one. So I took a chance for myself,

694
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:37.760
went to Walleck Western. They had
a lot of a lot of talent

695
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.159
that was coming out there, Cody, a lot of a lot of a

696
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:44.840
lot of good coaches and mentors,
and I'm cool with to this day.

697
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.719
I took that risk and went out
there, and then the rest is history

698
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:52.840
for real. But when you talk
about like my career, I barely been

699
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:57.159
playing alignment like a lot of guys, I think that I played line in

700
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.000
my whole life. I never really
played like I didn't want to play line,

701
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:01.079
you know what I mean. I'm
the type of guy we wanted to

702
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:07.760
man. I want to celebrate touchdown
or make the tackles, celebrate do something.

703
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.760
I didn't really find no pleasure in
being the alignment. I ain't played

704
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.239
alignment until like my junior year high
school. But like my first two years,

705
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:21.039
I was playing like wide receiver tighted
in NBN. But I was warning

706
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:22.880
like two forty my freshman year,
you know what I mean. I hooped

707
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:28.039
my whole life in high school,
playing all the circus to be the circuit,

708
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:36.000
Nike the circuit. A lot of
my guys NBA guys, or playing

709
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:38.800
D one, hooping two dog.
So it was blessing to do that all

710
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:44.679
of the quarter, like, but
there was somebody just told me, like,

711
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:46.599
man, you can make a lot
of money playing a line I didn't

712
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:51.679
want to. I don't want to
play it though. Man, I definitely

713
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:55.280
didn't want to play it, just
because I ain't find no joy in it.

714
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.960
But like I just took the risk
and listen to my mentors and my

715
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:05.920
coaches and everything. The rest is
history. Man. So you're you're you

716
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:07.400
know, you didn't want to play
it. Now you're playing, You're having

717
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:13.199
a success playing at Like what is
that joy that you find in it now?

718
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:21.239
Uh? Winning team first? Just
just just winning games and buyding with

719
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:27.400
my brothers after the games. Really
and just really when you say an accomplishment,

720
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.559
because like where I'm from, like
it's not a lot of people still

721
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:36.000
still playing or still playing at this
level. So sometimes we always want more,

722
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.280
Like like I remember sitting on the
bench and I wanted to travel,

723
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:43.360
then I wanted to play. Then
I want to play more than I want

724
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.159
to start, So just to scene
where I come from, and then why

725
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:50.320
I meant, nah, it's crazy, but we're still working, man.

726
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:53.960
So I don't really know how to
feel. Really, I can't really look

727
00:54:53.960 --> 00:55:00.000
at the scoreboard because I mean,
it's still a lot more to be done,

728
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:06.559
but man, really just winning Doug
winning, there's nothing like playing as

729
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:10.000
far as stadium back to even going
to high school and I was at Wall

730
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:15.679
like Northern, like them goods.
Probably they thought it was crazy about say

731
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.280
I was going to go D one, But I remember I went up when

732
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.440
I was all ignored. My mom
we was driving up to school to Okay.

733
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.559
It was like for the Michigan game, and She's like, man,

734
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:28.960
I wish you you can go up
to school, go up to states,

735
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.360
Like don't wait. That kind of
always been my goal. Like I had

736
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:37.400
like thirty offers, but I always
I wanted to go in and shoe just

737
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:42.320
because like I want to be in
state. Hero got a tag on me.

738
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:45.360
But I just set the goal.
That's why I want to go.

739
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:51.679
When I did it, so to
me, it's priceless, you know what

740
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:55.719
I mean. Yeah, Spence,
talk about you had the pleasure of because

741
00:55:55.760 --> 00:56:00.159
D recruiting you right on. You
know, I'm talking about your first coach

742
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:06.039
D encounter. You know, we
always want to tell ask our guys when

743
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.079
they come on if they were coaching
guy, what is your first encounter and

744
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:12.119
like, what did you feel about
him when you first met him, Slash

745
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:15.719
starting to play for me and then
I know COVID happened. But talk about

746
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:22.239
coach d he a smooth operator,
man, a smooth operator. Man.

747
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:27.719
That's my guy. Man Hall of
Famer. He was a legend. But

748
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.559
Doug, I mean, especially as
the kid is different. Now you see

749
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:35.960
what I'm saying, Like when you
were a kid and you get recruited,

750
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:37.639
you've seen this dudes like man,
like this is dude. They be seeing

751
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:43.320
on TV this dude. And we
said at the games, he's famous in

752
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:46.280
Michigan. He's famous in the country
him and is doing that thing. And

753
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:52.039
at that time it was winning.
I mean, he had that stretch,

754
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:57.000
Rose Bowl, Big Ten Championship Bowl
games. They had a good stretch.

755
00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:00.760
So man, it was kind of
like me, Jordan, for me,

756
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:07.400
you know what I mean, Like
because I mean, dog man straight,

757
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.239
you've been out there. Tell me
what you can tell the fans, and

758
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.000
you can tell them what's it like
out there, because like, man,

759
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:19.559
it's really rare to have somebody like
that walk through your school and then they

760
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:23.800
shut the whole school down. Everybody
got to go to class like Jim,

761
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:29.559
like with the coaches, like it
was crazy, man child coach Z too

762
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:36.719
man schools. Yeah, Man,
it's crazy, but it was rare out

763
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.800
there for for for somebody like him
to just walk into the school just regular,

764
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:44.760
like Hey, what's going on?
Man? So it was a crazy

765
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:50.000
experience. Like it was crazy.
But when I see him, I don't

766
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.920
know, Man, he's a like. I would say that he's afe.

767
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.880
Man, he's a like I feel
like he feel I feel like he's a

768
00:57:54.880 --> 00:58:01.559
people person. He's for the people. Oh he mean well, Smence man,

769
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.519
you know you just brought up coach
Z. So that was your coach

770
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.519
at Wall Lake Western, So you
know, you look at you're a guy

771
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:13.280
obviously Wildlake Northern. First of all, master this question. Did you did

772
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:17.480
you play an instrument or something?
Were you into performing arts like instruments or

773
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:22.320
something like that, band orchestra,
singing, none of that? How did

774
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:24.440
you get to Northern in the first
place? And that's all I mean.

775
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:30.400
I stayed right around the corner from
uh from Northern, I stayed right the

776
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:31.880
corner. But this was this is
really what it was. I'm gonn tell

777
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:37.639
you the full story. The people, the real people who know me.

778
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:42.880
I was enrolled at Brother Rice first, so we moved out. I'm originally

779
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:49.360
from Camp and we moved out the
commerce and the intentions of I was going

780
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.880
to go to Brother Rights. So
I was enrolling Brother Rights for like the

781
00:58:52.920 --> 00:59:00.239
whole summer and then going into the
Camp. I reclassified and then I did

782
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:01.320
that. So we was already out
there. So we was just like,

783
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:06.400
you know, we just this school, awesome facilities right around the corner.

784
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:12.239
And that was that's what it was, you know what I mean, Oh

785
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:16.440
so you reclass reclass man, That's
what it was the beginning of this.

786
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:21.480
See see this is something that you
don't hear a lot of that in Michigan.

787
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:23.360
But but it's worked out for you, right, you know, you're

788
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:28.480
able to get another year you know
of experience on your belt. Right.

789
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.920
I see you that La Shane is
your mom. Yeah, I see it

790
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:42.840
in the chat shout out to the
Brown. I mean I already know she

791
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:47.880
tuned in for absolute Yeah of course, you know. So I'm just so

792
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.639
you have a degree already. You
already have your degree and that was it

793
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:55.960
advertising marketing, and you're getting going
for your second degree and communication. I

794
00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:00.400
mean, so you pound up degrees. You already walked and got I seen

795
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.000
you the captain goal. I mean, congratulations on all that, all your

796
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:07.239
success off the field as well.
Brother, that's great, sure you know,

797
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:14.679
seeing what you have been able to
accomplish, right, like you've been

798
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:20.239
able to see this high school transition
for yourself looking at today's guys that I'm

799
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:22.400
sure you host that you got to
take out when they come in town on

800
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:28.440
their official visits and all this,
Like how has recruited in your mind going

801
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.760
just back to twenty nineteen changed in
it? Do you like it or do

802
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:36.039
you think it's too much? I
mean, I mean it's the many in

803
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:40.199
the NFL to me now, it
is when we when I first got here,

804
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:45.480
we was just off the stipends,
stipeing checks. Man, I remember

805
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:50.000
coach D. Coach D. I
mean, they wasn't playing too Like you

806
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:52.960
talked about unlimited visiness for college coach
he was stripping, dude, scholarships if

807
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:59.559
they taking unofficial visits just one time
and just anything though, Like it's different,

808
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:04.239
Man, wasn't no hopping teams and
hitting the portal and doing all that.

809
01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.760
Like it's way different. Like you
went to the school, You're there,

810
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:13.320
you know what I mean for four
years? Nice, it's one year

811
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.760
cycle. Everybody want to get their
one year in the team up for one

812
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:22.639
year in the cycle. Being in
Wars Portal. I don't know. I

813
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:28.519
feel like it's more business now and
more me, me me instead of h

814
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.119
we we we're in the team.
I don't really, I really don't know

815
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:36.599
what it is now because I mean
every day it's new rules, every day

816
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:45.679
it's changing. But it's definitely different, man, definitely different for you,

817
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:51.440
right right, So, like I
mean, just you know this question.

818
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:58.079
They used to try cooking me earlier. You can't say nothing that can't heard

819
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:01.679
it heard the whole thing. Do
you accept the guy back that said,

820
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:05.159
you know, like I'm gonna put
you guys a second fiddle. I'm gonna

821
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:10.639
go test the waters and if nothing's
there, then I'll come back saying like

822
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:17.119
Strek too, It does depend on
who he is and the player. Now,

823
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:21.519
like if you talking smack about us
and then the whole time and then

824
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:24.000
I'm gonna leave, leave leaving and
go ahead lead. But like if you're

825
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:27.440
a guy you trying to look what's
best for you and then you want to

826
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.159
come back, you know what I
mean? I mean Ben Ben Sumer did

827
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:32.480
it. I mean, look where
he is Now, that was my guy,

828
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:36.800
that's my roommate, you know what
I mean, And my guys hated

829
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:42.679
it even but I give you a
pass to because it was a different coaching

830
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:45.239
staff too, I don't you know
what I mean. So that was cool,

831
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:49.559
Chucker, But I mean he could
a good John Tucker. Don't want

832
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:52.880
to lose no time, man,
And that's really what it is. I

833
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.039
mean, if you can help the
team, you could come and stay,

834
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:58.400
you know what I mean. But
if you were cancer and you a problem

835
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:00.199
and the guys don't want you,
I feel like it's the guys, if

836
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:06.880
the guys don't accept you, you
know what I mean. Yes, that

837
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.679
very eloquently because clearly it's two sides
of that. Like he also stumped you

838
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:19.119
because then, I mean he did
it was low key though. I mean

839
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:22.400
I would say what I would do. I mean, I mean, I

840
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:25.679
mean, but that's not here,
that's everywhere, man, it's the it's

841
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:30.000
the mini NFL or I get it. I get it. I get it.

842
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:32.719
But if I you know, if
I'm a business owner and an employee

843
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:38.360
wants to leave, I'm not going
to take him back. I know that

844
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:43.840
is not a fair. But he's
saying off street code, loyalty definitely,

845
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:49.360
Yeah, you on a different thing
street, so your your boss can be

846
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:52.400
on a different street call than you
know, I'm saying he can leave like

847
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:59.280
we're going back into the We're not. If you want to transfer and make

848
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:03.239
what's best for I respect that right. Well, Look, I think everyone

849
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:08.920
wants to know, like this spring, what did you what was the positives

850
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:13.239
coming out of spring ball for for
the offensive line and specifically before the squad,

851
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:15.199
and what do you you know,
what do you need to think you

852
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:19.079
need to work on an off season
to get us back to that that peachbol

853
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:23.360
squad, like you got the talent, but getting us to like winning those

854
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:26.280
games we know we should win,
but also competing the ones that we need

855
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:31.239
to compete with. Man, it's
a lot, Man, we got a

856
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:36.079
lot of young dudes out there flying
around, and I think I think,

857
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:41.039
I think our team is gonna be
special. Uh defensively, defensive line,

858
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:45.199
it's a lot of activity up front. I can't wait to get some guys

859
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:50.039
back. Linebacker room like one of
strongest rooms on the program. It's not

860
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:56.360
the conference for real. In my
opinion, running backs, we're gonna be

861
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:00.119
ready to running back. I love
the running back room. I think,

862
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:12.519
stop he run running backroom pops to
you. I mean, you know,

863
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:17.079
you know I'm not gonna put I'm
not gonna put you on the spot.

864
01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:21.039
But tell us about like that.
What like Nate Carter? What what does

865
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:26.400
he bring to to you know,
the team? I mean, what yeah

866
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:29.239
with him is? I mean you
got to just get him a crease and

867
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:34.599
he ready. And that's the thing
with all our backs, Jared Jared smooth.

868
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:38.199
You know what you're getting out of
him every time you run the ball.

869
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:41.960
Physical, gonna put his head down. They ain't gonna really want to

870
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.880
tackle h Burger Smooth, they prem
smooth, Nate Carter, all of them.

871
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.039
But I say it's really on this, you know what I mean,

872
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:53.039
if we blocking, we do what
we're supposed to do, they gonna eat

873
01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:55.760
because they're talented enough. You know
what I mean? That wrong? Very

874
01:05:55.800 --> 01:06:01.599
talented, oh tight end wrong,
talented, elite excited excited for him for

875
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:05.480
this year too. But O line, we got a lot. I feel

876
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:11.519
like we jail Jail a lot more
better. The coheestonfits is a lot better.

877
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:16.000
We got we got JD coming back, Nick come back, Sire and

878
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:21.320
road with them guys, too.
Brendon Baldwin, he played a lot of

879
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:26.280
games last year for us. He's
only getting better. He's getting better too,

880
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:30.960
Key Shine, He's doing his thing. He coming in balling. And

881
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:36.400
then even the young guysan Ethan doing
Ethan got a lot better too, let

882
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:42.239
Bow Stainton Romeo, he's a he's
a he's a good guy too. I

883
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:44.880
mean, and it's a lot more
damn. I think it's like nineteen guys

884
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:49.159
in that room, so Dallas Spencer, we I mean, we need everybody.

885
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.679
We were as good as our week
as link. That's why I'm learning

886
01:06:55.920 --> 01:07:01.000
wide receivers, Key Trey, I
like Tom Tom, tell your Gates,

887
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:05.239
Ryan Glovery, Tyrie, all them
dudes. My toy fits had a huge

888
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:12.320
scring. But to get back today, it's just gonna be just hard work,

889
01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:15.280
dedication. We just gotta stay focused, make the most out of each

890
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:21.719
day and just really jail just always
just just either it's hanging out, practicing,

891
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:25.760
studying, doing more film together,
just hanging around the dudes more,

892
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.079
just building more bonds. And I
think that's what we're doing. I think

893
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.039
the coaches did a good job that
implement a lot of that stuff too.

894
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:38.599
With a team activities. But man, you know and y'all playing, man,

895
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:41.559
you don't really know to the first
game. And uh so we're still

896
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:45.760
working right now. We're going into
summer workouts, so we're just trying to

897
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:48.800
win, trying to win some workouts, trying to win for a camp,

898
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:51.719
try to win each game. Man, just take it one day at a

899
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:59.239
time. People are asking questions,
what do you think about the secondary?

900
01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:02.039
And then that's the sixty four million
dollar question? Or does oldest have to

901
01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:06.800
suit up to get I mean our
secondary are our second our second day nights,

902
01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:11.760
our secondary. Nice man. We
got a lot of young dudes and

903
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:14.079
they all can play, and they
all can fit in. I like my

904
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:18.119
guys, Ja Ja Maine, Malise
Spence, he gonna come up and hit

905
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:26.479
DT his confidence on a million.
Oh Marquee, I love Marquee. Marque

906
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:30.399
coming for y'all, Marque coming for
youll chess chas chat. We're gonna do

907
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:34.479
his thing. I like our back
end man in up front. I mean,

908
01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:39.760
they're gonna be throwing lots of bread
because we've got guys coming on front.

909
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:42.600
So I ain't even really tripping on
the back end, but we can

910
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:46.479
cover dudes. Oh, I'm excited, man, because everybody's gonna be able

911
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:50.600
to play. We need everybody for
twelve plus games. It's a long season.

912
01:08:50.640 --> 01:09:00.600
But we're gonna be straight. We're
gonna ask a question. Yeah way

913
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.359
second, I was gonna ask because
I forgot J D N and Nick say

914
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:08.880
Mak all three of y'all came in
together. Yeah, okay, so you

915
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:12.600
got some You got a lot of
experience on that offensive line. That's That's

916
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:17.880
what I'm saying. Man to play
start in some games too. Oh yeah,

917
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:21.079
I just I just think that you
guys definitely just got to take that

918
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:26.840
step in that extra film preparation.
Man. I think you guys know kind

919
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:29.359
of what to do and what it's
going to be like. You just got

920
01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:33.319
to do extra film preparation to make
that game a lot easier for you because

921
01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:38.720
I mean, they all them defensive
guys, otis close year. They always

922
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:46.720
give you down. They give it
to yeah, man, job, they

923
01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:50.239
don't know how to they don't know
how to disguise it can look at I

924
01:09:50.279 --> 01:10:01.520
know it's passed Spence. You in
that huddle, man, You in the

925
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:06.840
huddle. So everybody want to know
what you think as a player, like

926
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:14.359
which quarterback is the one that's gonna
like this play safe, Spence, we

927
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:21.359
ain't gonna put you in the dollar
you answered, how you answered like a

928
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:25.720
politician? He answered direct, however
you want, that's up to you,

929
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.439
man, I want to I want
the best one who's gonna win this games

930
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:34.319
and put put in the best position
to be successful. So tell me the

931
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:38.159
strengths of the top. You know
the couple of guys, like, what

932
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:41.600
do you what do you like?
You know about each one? Uh?

933
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:47.600
Pt my guy. The thing with
him is, you know the playbook front

934
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:50.039
and back. He know it like
a oc you know what I mean.

935
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:56.680
He's been there before, you know
what to take, and he getting better

936
01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:00.680
man after his confidence and his confidence
straight. He be in there before,

937
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:02.880
you know what I mean. So
really it's just making the right choices,

938
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:11.359
making the right decisions, and keeping
your confidence at a million. Noel kimm

939
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.439
I like his swag. I like
his charisma, you know what I mean.

940
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:17.399
And that's the same thing with Howser
too. Howser got that Kelly swag.

941
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:21.640
Howser got that swag like like like
he like he mean for this,

942
01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:25.439
you know what I mean. But
but but he's coming to a lot,

943
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:29.800
man, it's different flavors. Man, they all three different quarterbacks to me.

944
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:32.920
But but and they all got to
bring something special to the table.

945
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:43.359
Competition is still going, but uh
they I mean, competition definitely still going.

946
01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:47.039
But that's that's every position, even
even if the first game, first

947
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:50.279
three games, whatever games. Man, you always compete in y'all know that.

948
01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:56.680
But I definitely I like all of
them. Man, I like all

949
01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:00.560
of them. I love all of
them. So what's what's you just said?

950
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:02.960
It's like you're gonna block regardless for
all three of them, no question,

951
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:05.880
because I know sometimes it's the drop
was like, I don't mess with

952
01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:11.760
my man's man. They man,
they all can play, I think,

953
01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:17.239
but I mean front runs for me, uh pt and uh and Cam no

954
01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:21.239
question, but I mean no compete. I mean house the compete too.

955
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:26.359
But they are. We don't know. We don't know what can happen.

956
01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:35.880
But y'all y'all know we know somebody. So Steve's answer that you have a

957
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:42.920
nickname. Who who asked? No? That is right there, Steve swid

958
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:48.399
three one three maybe s B expense. I mean I don't really whatever whatever,

959
01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:53.319
somebody try to track a joke say
something to me. I don't know

960
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:56.960
whenever they see me. I don't
really got no nigga name. I know

961
01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:02.680
you just got swagged all the way
around you. Was about to ask questionn

962
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:06.600
Yeah, ready, yeah, before
we wrap it up, here a couple

963
01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:12.359
of rapid fires for you here when
I played, when I played running Back,

964
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:15.600
I used to after winds. I
used to give handwritten thank you notes.

965
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:17.520
Put it in all the linemans,
lockers. What do what do the

966
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:24.239
boys do for you now? Oh? Man, man, they shut love

967
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:27.840
Man, we hang out, we
pop out, we do a lot of

968
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:32.079
stuff. J Jerry, Jerry,
Jaron Show. I love to the line.

969
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:38.319
Oh. He always tried to get
this hype. Let's go, let's

970
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:45.239
go activities fence. So he he
hypees up a lot Berger Berger get is

971
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:49.479
going. But man, they not
really. I won't say give me those

972
01:13:50.159 --> 01:14:00.279
goodie bags and brighton he said.
I know he was somewhere else written by

973
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:09.640
that, but I mean to know
with those notes, because man, all

974
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:15.239
right, game day. What's in
the headphones everything? I don't know,

975
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:23.079
Man, I'll be I don't know
what's in the headphones. Uh it depends,

976
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:25.880
man. I might turn on the
interview. I might turn on highlights.

977
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:34.880
I watch interviews highlights, smooth songs, rap anything. Uh sometimes we're

978
01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:43.239
in no headphones. But if I
was to my artist, it depends gun

979
01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:55.119
the future. A lot of Detroit
artists okay, okay, smooth say anything

980
01:14:55.239 --> 01:15:01.680
though, anything though, I jay
Z too, I'm tripping jay Z.

981
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:04.680
A lot of jay Z, a
lot of Maybak, a lot of Rick

982
01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:13.239
Ross, a lot of Maybak music, a lot of jay Z. Yeah,

983
01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:15.319
I would say that. I would
say that a lot of that,

984
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:19.279
A lot of that going on after
after the game, after when what's the

985
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:30.119
spot? What's the spot like church? I don't know, I mean,

986
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:32.800
I don't know. It depends,
It depends on the game, depends on

987
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:36.319
the day, depends on all that
just depends on what what what? What?

988
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:41.000
What people got going on? Because
everybody, Hey, where you're going

989
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:44.800
with? What's talking about? What
your favorite watering hole? Like, where's

990
01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:49.600
the spot? Like a bar restaurant
that you want to go? Yeah,

991
01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:57.000
shout out Field House most definitely shout
out to the house. Definitely have a

992
01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.119
good time the mother bars. I
mean, I ain't really been, you

993
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:08.960
know, since like my freshman years
for real, Like I mean, but

994
01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:15.800
all this uff, we'll delete this
part. No, what I'm saying,

995
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:19.720
like for dinner. I'm gonna tell
you why they changed, though, I

996
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:24.960
mean after COVID they changed. I
mean the lines way. I mean,

997
01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:29.039
the line's always been long, but
they way longer than you're paying fifty sixty

998
01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:36.640
get in, like get hold on, hold on, I'm talking about what

999
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:42.760
people. I'm talking about like general
population. Yeah, I'm talking about I'm

1000
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.119
yeah, I'm just saying like that
in general. Look like I do to

1001
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:56.600
to don't you don't pay you don't
pay man, never never, never,

1002
01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:00.279
But listen, you're gonna get a
kicked out of this. We're gonna we

1003
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:02.760
go to ricks. I forgot what
night that was. My man is trying

1004
01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:06.399
to say, Hey, hold on, man, it's it's ten days.

1005
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:17.359
No, we're good. I know
the walk straight down recently. Yeah yeah

1006
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:23.399
yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
that's what I'm saying. They shouldn't even

1007
01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:26.359
like, That's what I'm saying,
like, I don't know not man,

1008
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:32.199
well all of them really, all
of them really, man, just depends.

1009
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:36.760
Man, y'all know what time it
is. Spen's a throw back for

1010
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:44.960
real, Yeah, man, you
could have been like yeah, no,

1011
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.680
I came out in the early nineties. He can't be your shot, your

1012
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:55.359
era straight. You boys are different, then he's different. Man, That's

1013
01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:59.119
all I'm saying. Hey smith Man, thanks man for coming on the show.

1014
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.319
Brother. We really appreciate your time
and it was a great conversation,

1015
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:05.920
enlightening to a lot of people,
I'm sure, like just not only today

1016
01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:11.640
but in the future too. Man, Like, congratulations on your success and

1017
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:15.000
we look forward to more for you. Man, if we can help you,

1018
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:18.359
just holler Man, We'll do whatever
we can do for you. Appreciate

1019
01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:24.640
you boys, thanks man, appreciate
you get the baby, yes, sir,

1020
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:30.199
Yeah, another one another another degree. Congratulate some degree and your success.

1021
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:35.920
Man, We'll see you soon,
guys. Old Lyneman, Man,

1022
01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:41.560
I mean you see how they do. That was a great conversation. Great

1023
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:45.720
dude, I think so real.
Good good luck this year, big expense.

1024
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:49.119
I mean there's a lot of people
talking about him and you know old

1025
01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:58.600
Soul right shout out which you listened
to which? Because you say I listened

1026
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:02.960
to that, you got to be
like which with songs in her get into

1027
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:10.079
the detail exactly what that's for the
next show we have. Yeah, Man,

1028
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:13.000
I like to talk to him again, man, absolutely so you guys,

1029
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:16.319
any findal thoughts for uh before we
take this and put a bow on

1030
01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:19.880
it. No, it was that
was good to uh to bring him on,

1031
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:24.439
and you know that was our one
of our first that was our first

1032
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:29.359
off linement. Yes, yeah,
that was that's that's good. We're spreading

1033
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:32.800
the love like we're not just going
office wide receivers the playmaker. We get

1034
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:38.479
some love around each position. Big
fellas need love too, yeah, man,

1035
01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:41.520
Yeah, so it was a good, good show to like to get

1036
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:43.880
to know him. I think the
best part of when people come on,

1037
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:47.800
we're not just talking exs and those
we're getting to know them in real time

1038
01:19:48.039 --> 01:19:51.920
like us as well, but also
our followers and people that support him on

1039
01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:56.199
a you know, day to day
basis. But man, every guy,

1040
01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:59.199
we got to do some character guys. Man, just real dudes that you

1041
01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:02.199
can go kick it with, and
then that gives you more uh motivation to

1042
01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:05.239
go support them on the field.
Because this guy is a complete guy.

1043
01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:10.279
Two degree working, you know,
a degree working on another one. This

1044
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:15.399
is what it's all about. He's
utilized this place for his good right,

1045
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:17.520
and I think that's his testament to
what the guys were going on the squad.

1046
01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:21.880
So looking forward to big things,
big spans appreciating spending time with us

1047
01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:28.319
two. Yeah, definitely. You
know, I just love this platform giving

1048
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:30.359
Uh. You know, everyone did
the opportunity to come on and you know,

1049
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:35.319
showcase them themselves as a person.
So UH love talking to Spence.

1050
01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:40.600
He's a good dude, good character
guy and uh wishing nothing but the best

1051
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:48.680
for him. Uh. Come Saturday, Friday, September Friday, correction move

1052
01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:56.359
game time for Central Michigan's We moved
from Saturday the second of that ain't happening.

1053
01:20:56.600 --> 01:21:00.359
That ain't happening. It's always let
me know when y'all have kickers song

1054
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:11.239
we bring bearing man. Let's go
and get him, ye Jesus, that's

1055
01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:15.479
right. Next, what is it
Thursday, We're gonna have a draft special.

1056
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:18.880
It's gonna be crazy and they're gonna
have shoot you breaking down all the

1057
01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:27.600
positions like mel typer Junior otis coming
in hot headed down I sixty nine.

1058
01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:31.039
But don't worry, he'll be around. We will all be around. Thank

1059
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:35.319
you guys for joining the show.
For ODIs Wiley, j u Cochrik,

1060
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:39.960
I'm Jason Stringland. This is Sparta. Have a good night, God bless

1061
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:54.359
and go great Go White. This
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1062
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:58.880
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1063
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:03.800
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1064
01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:11.159
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1065
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:15.760
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1066
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:20.399
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1067
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:25.680
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1068
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:29.880
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1069
01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:31.520
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