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Hey, everybody, Welcome to the
episode of Challenges the podcast all about the

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challenge as always. I am Brian
uh sitting in uh Minnesota. Is Carlin

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San Diego and once again sitting a
work Zachie Bananas. Nothing creative today because

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I'm sick, so you're gonna have
to deal with it. So I just

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realized, is sweet in the chat
room? Is that actually joker? Or

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is that sweet Uncle Tea? That's
joker? Okay. I was just trying

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to figure out why his what his
last comment was about. And yeah,

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so for all the thus you haven't
figured it out yet, we have no

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sweet Uncle iced tea or whatever.
This weekend he's at a conference or some

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porn thing. I don't know.
Hey, porn convention would be fun to

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go to all the time. There
was just one Chicago. Hey, at

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the end of this year, if
we need to, you know, spend

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the rest of that budget we have, we know what to deal with it

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now, porn convention, that's right, And we could go find Dustin at

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the place. Oh oh man,
I think he's probably hung up his hat

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all right. Should we just jump
right into it? Do you have anything

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Facebook all right. Uh, I

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did not write down the name of
the episode. It's episode six though I

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completely forgot to write down the name
of the episode. But whatever. Uh.

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It started with Lee Roy being our
previously on person and I actually really

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enjoyed this one. It starts off
with him holding a big heavy weight bag

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and having to do multiple takes what
he's trying to say, and then they

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finally they start the you know previously
on and it goes into you know,

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what happened last week and whatnot.
But he cracks jokes but a few different

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people. He it focuses on Cam
and he talks about how hot she is

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at one point in time. It
just I loved how wholesome he was.

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I thought it was great. I
did love the behind the scenes of all

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his mess ups. And just for
the record, the episode the episode was

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called Karma Maria. That's right.
Uh yeah, it made me think of

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ten take tj Yes, oh Lera
is getting a taste of that. It's

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great. Uh. So we go
straight back into the house with Leroy walking

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in and Cam is super proud of
him. He just won the elimination.

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She's really happy that he is back
in the house, that he's got his

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star. I love their relationship.
They're one of the one of the only

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relationships in this house, in any
Challenge house that I have really enjoyed.

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I think it's just because I like
Leroy so much. Yeah, uh,

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what was that. I just said. LeRoy's great, so it's hard to

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not like him. Yeah. We
get a quick flash to Kara talking to

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I think Jay saying that she's not
actively going for Cam and Leroy, but

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she's also she feels a little weird
and like doesn't feel like she can go

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and talk to them about what happened
last week and about Leroy getting voted in.

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And she also makes a comment of
like, because Leroy now has a

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star, she has to kind of
keep him and Cam out of the elimination

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because if she, if Cam goes
into the elimination, the Cam's gonna try

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and take her star. But I
don't know it was I feel like it's

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just one of those things where she
should have just walked over there and like

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an adult, had an actual conversation. But the last time that conversation tried

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to happen. It failed miserably.
M Now she's just proving that old Car

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is not back. It's still very
self entitled Car, and it's kind of

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annoying, kind of annoying this episode. I put the majority of this still

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on Cam. I feel like Car
tried to go do the right thing,

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and I think Cam is the one
that wouldn't, you know, make peace.

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Yeah, yeah, oh well we
also get oh she was talking to

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Ryan, That's what it was.
Because Ryan then gets a quick confessional thing

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about how he is kind of playing
both sides, trying to keep both sides

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happy because that's the only way that
he's going to be able to make it

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to the end of the game.
But he's a fluff player and he's not

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going to make it to the end
of the game except to be a sorry

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I have I have a growley little
dog. You I do. She is

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desperately trying to get me to play
with a ball and it's just not gonna

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happen. Yeah, So Ryan's talking
about how he is to play both sides.

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Then we get a great Carra given
us this great little montage of because

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they have no TV channel and they
have no TV. They have nothing to

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do in the house. You've got
two different TV channels. You can watch

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Steve in the Wild and Aces in
Places. And I would like to say

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that there's probably a third channel that
doesn't have a very fun name, but

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it's the toxic relationship between Nicole and
Laurel. Because yes, Steve makes a

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weight bag out of shoe strings and
duct tape zip ties and duct tape stuff.

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How do you do not love him? I think he is the greatest

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character we've had in a long time. I just I think he's creepy.

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There's something about him that gives me
the ick. Part of me thinks it's

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the really stringing long hair, but
I don't know. There's just it's the

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it's the he's always do. I
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he's always doing things with his hands, and I don't know. He just

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there's something about him that gives me
the ick. And I don't know.

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I just yeah, no, thank
you. He's quickly moving up my list

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of favorites. He had a lot
of confessionals this week. I thought he

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was going home because he had a
lot of confessionals this week. I should

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have picked him on my Well,
at least you picked somebody. Congratulations,

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Steve. I completely forgot to pick
my picks this past week in the Public

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League and bombed royally. Sorry,
I'm still I'm still thirty third place.

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So it happens, well, we
are already onto the challenge, how smack.

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So the challenge is called take a
Seat. It's happening on a big,

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giant soccer pitch. I believe we've
had competitions there in previous seasons before.

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It looks familiar. The game is
basically musical chairs, or at least

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the first phase of the game is
musical chairs. They are competing in pairs

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and they have to TEAJ is going
to call out a section, row and

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set of seats and they have to
run across the field to that area and

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get the seats, and the last
person to get a seat or to not

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get a seat, they and their
partner are out for that round. They

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do this five times notable partners.
Apparently Kara has been paired with Ace on

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all of the other challenges, so
he's a little offended because she chooses Jay

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this time. Turns out to be
a bad choice. Brad and Laurel,

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which I thought was a super strong
pair also turns out to be a bad

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choice Cam and Leroy. They finally
pair up, which I mean, of

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all the pair, all of all
the challenges so far to do, I

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don't think this is a bad one
for them to be paired on. And

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then we get a super fluff team
of Derek and Jazz, and then we've

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got a grouping of others. I
just didn't write all of them. Now

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those are just ones that I noted. Yeah, so phase one, the

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TJ calls out the area that they're
supposed to go sit down, and they

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take off running and Lee Roy goes
into a section and then Cam goes,

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what are you doing? And he
realizes that he's in the wrong section,

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but Brad has followed him into this
section, and Laurel's yelling at Brad,

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what are you doing? And so
they both kind of get back in line.

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They're running some more and Brad fucking
up causes him and Laurel to be

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the first team out, and TJ, over the loudspeaker says, Brad's out

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shockerund really funny. Oh, I
feel like yeah, I mean so,

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I don't know if Wolf remember this
MP Survivor, but I'm Thriver All Stars

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when Colby came back, and I
think that's shoes are still It's like it's

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kind of like, you know,
you grew up seeing Superman and now it's

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more like, you know, uh, Superman in a fat suit. I

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don't know who is. I mean, Brad is in better shape than he's

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probably ever been in, but mentally
he's just he's not doing well in this

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game. Yeah, so I didn't
really I didn't really run down on the

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who else got out in this other
notable things. Derek is fast as fuck,

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right, I was gonna say,
you just call him and Jasmine a

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fluff team, and like I would
agree, Jasmine is not the best.

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I mean, Derek is not fluff
at least in this shay. Okay,

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So when I wrote that down,
when they just paired up at that point

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in time, I thought pure fluff
team. And within the next five minutes

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I was going, holy shit,
Derek is kicking ass. I was so

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surprised. Turns. Yeah, two
time state champion and hurdles. That's that's

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impressive. It is impressive. I
mean it was fifteen years ago, but

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that's still impressive. Same, uh
Man is fast, he got he got

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to the seats first every single time. No. I think the bad thing

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about this for him, though,
is I bet you a lot of those

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people are looking at him being like
I wouldn't want to have to foot race

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him in the final. Yeah,
yeah, yep, Yeah, he's definitely

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up his game up over the last
like he he may not be as much

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of a fluff player as initially thought, but you know, CAVL at one

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point in time injured his hamstring.
Avery mentions that this is basically hallbrowl with

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everybody because they're all kind of fighting
each other for these seats. And then

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we get to Phase two and the
five teams of Phase one that did not

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get out five for whatever. The
teams that stayed through Phase one, they

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had a thirty second advantage for phase
two. Phase two was they had to

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run from one side of the stadium
to the other into this big giant section

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where there are tokens like to the
size of dinner plates laying all over the

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place or hidden around that. Each
team has to go and find a token.

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When they find their token, they
have to run back to TJ and

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they can exchange it for a set
of weighted blocks. All of the blocks

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are different weights and you have to
hang them from a scale so that both

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sides balance out, and first team
to do this wins. The bottom five

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teams are going in or up for
elimination. Ace gets to this puzzle and

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goes, this is super easy.
I don't understand why so many people are

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having so much trouble with it.
And he and Nicole, being that he's

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partnered with Nicole and we know how
she is with puzzles, they finished this

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super fast and ultimately end up winning. He's like fucking rain Man on this,

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like he just looks, yeah,
yeah, it was impressive. He

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went through really quickly, so he, Nicole and Ace win. The middle

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group is Jay Kara who has a
star, Adam, Flora, Ryan,

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and Avery. And the bottom group
is Leeroy who has a star, cam

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Brad who has a star, Laurel, Tina, Kefla who has a star,

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Derek and Jazz who also has a
star, and then also Veronica who

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has a star, and Steve.
It is a very large, very stacked

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group of people in that bottom and
it makes a difference as to who has

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stars in the bottom because it is
a double little elimination. Yeah, we

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immediately get a confessional from Cam saying
that she wants to go in. She

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wants to go in, she wants
to get her star. She does not

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want Leroy to go in. Yeah, and this is where I note that

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Steve had a ton of confessionals,
because by this point in time, I

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think he'd had like five and everyone
else that had maybe one. Mm hmmm.

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Where're just flying through this episode,
guys. I think we're gonna get

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to Drummer and just want it.
I have I have some discussion topics that

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I want to know your thoughts on. So we're back at the house a

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cha. We initially get Jay and
Kara talking, and Kara immediately tells Jay,

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I want this to be Jazz versus
Veronica. Who are the other two

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female star holders? Because she wants
her star to be safe. And if

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you put two star holders down there, either you have one star holder winning

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and having an extra star that they
have to give to someone, or you

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have the winning girl going down against
one of these girls and taking their star.

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So either way, karus star is
safe. Jay's not super keen on

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this because he wants to have Jazz
is back, so he's kind of noncommittal.

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Wants Jay wants to have everybody's back. Yeah, well apparently so it's

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jazz. Also also we get a
quick uh shot of Kavla talking to his

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wife and saying that he wants he
wants to win to be able to open

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up a mental health center, which
is good for him, but that is

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not enough money to do that,
so you know. Uh. Then we

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get a shot of Laurel and Nicole
hooking up in the sauna. Vomit talk

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about toxic relationship. Well, that's
my favorite part. I think they're both

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beautiful women. They there's something.
I can agree that they are both good

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looking women, but their relationship is
just so ungodly toxic. I agree with

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that. I get like it's just
I get the ick from it. But

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Veronica and Ryan catch them in the
act or catch them post post coitus.

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I found it rather entertaining all the
just the banter between all of them.

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What are you doing here? Yeah? After spending three hours in the sauna,

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as Veronica like to say. Uh. We also get a shot of

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Brad. I'm sure this was Tim's
favorite shot. We get a shot of

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Brad holding a hand towel around his
waist, not not like a normal towel

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from a shower, but a hand
towel because apparently he's allergic to the detergent

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and that was his way of dealing
with it. I guess. But who's

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he talking to? He's talking to
Ryan, Derek and Veronica. Veronica.

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Yeah, they're all just got stars
in their eyes. Like well, Veronica

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doesn't really care because Veronica is gay, but the guys both care because they're

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also gay. So she immediately he
walks out of the room. She goes,

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I bet you too like that?
Yeah, yeah we did. I

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thought she was by? Is she
just oh she might be by? I

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might be wrong with that, but
yeah, it was. It was an

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entertaining scene. Brad is not a
bad He's not a bad person to be

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looking at that is that is a
very nice busy I would not have been

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upset with that either. We get
another scene of people talking game. Ace

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is talking to Steve and Ryan and
he's trying to tell Ryan that Steve shouldn't

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go in, he should save him, and that he thinks it should be

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Lee Royan Brad like get out a
strong player and sure, I mean not

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a bad strategy, not a bad
strategy. It does open up stars getting

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stolen. Yep, yeah, it
definitely does. Cam. We get a

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shot of her saying that she wants
to go against Tina because she wants to

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go down. She wants to go
down for sure, and she wants to

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go against someone who does not have
a star. And the only two people

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who don't have stars that are in
the bottom are Laurel and Tina, and

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she doesn't. She's not convinced that
she can get Laurel in, so she

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thinks that she can get Tina.
I think it's also she's a little skre

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to Laurel. I A. And
then finally we're on to the nominations.

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All right, so we'll run through
these real quick. The men's nominations go

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really fast. Kefala gets voted in
by everybody, and then we have uh

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Brad with one vote, Leroy with
two votes, and Steve with three.

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So it's an almost immediate Steve and
Keffler are going in. No big deal

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there. The issue is when it
comes to the women. Laura is politic

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and hard to get jazz and Veronica
in politick in throwing a tantrum because she's

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not getting her way. I mean, yeah, one way or the other.

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She's able to pull it off ultimately
and it ends up being Jazz and

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Veronica. But there's a lot of
back and forth. Yea, there's a

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lot of back and forth because there
are a lot of people who Jazz has

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made promises to. And Adam brings
up the point that I thought immediately at

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the beginning of this episode and when
they first came back to the house,

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what the fuck does Jazz have to
offer to anyone? Right? What the

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hell kind of promises could she be
making? I don't understand why so many

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people have her back when she is
not good at this game. No,

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she never has been, because she
can't even offer like a like a I

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won't say your name sort of thing, because she promises that to everybody.

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That's good. Yeah, it doesn't. It makes no sense to me.

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She only has a star right now
because Klara gave her one. That's the

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only reason she would not have a
star. Ever, if she didn't get

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given one, there's no I mean
maybe maybe if she went into elimination against

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Veronica, could she have the chance
of getting a star. Yeah, but

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Jazz is a fluff. Is a
flufflay. I don't I truly don't know

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understand why so many people are at
least in this in this nomination. Why

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so many people were ride or die
for her? It made no sense to

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me at all. No, And
I don't know why people didn't stick to

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their guns as soon as Car challenges
that. Yeah, it's just like everybody's

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like, oh, okay, whatever
you want, yep. Yeah, because

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I mean, we get through the
nominations and Car is happy because she got

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her way, She got everybody in
there that she wanted. Cam is pissed

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because Car got her way. Flora
is pissed because she was in the nominations

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and Carr got her way. Nicole
is pissed because Carr got her way.

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Like, there are a bunch of
people who are really mad at the fact

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that Car got away. Don't get
me wrong, she definitely threw a temper

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tantrum. Yeah, but ultimately it
ended up working like a pot as politicking

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strategy, Like yeah, I mean
I I don't see anything wrong with the

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Car did. Like, if you
have the opportunity to influence the game in

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a way that benefits you, you
don't just sit there and like be like,

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nah, I'm not gonna speak up, Like, yeah, the people

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that wanted to like get him in
there, should have fought harder, but

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it seems like once Car started throwing
a fit, they just kind of sat

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on their hands and let Cara like
argued to Adam and all them, Like.

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The thing is is like if I
were in that position, if I

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were the only other woman with a
star in this game, I absolutely would

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have done the exact same thing.
Yeah, I would have thrown a fucking

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fit, like, no, you
are not putting people down there who are

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gonna go after my star when we
have two star players that go in immediately,

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not gonna happen. Yep. Yeah, I think the thing that irked

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me the most about this whole like
everybody being mad at Kara, is Nicole.

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As she's walking away from her conversation
with Flora, she tells Flora that

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Kara is playing itself game, that
she has always played a selfish game,

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and that she is a clown who
needs her star taken away. And the

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only thing that I could think of
that from that was Nicole, this is

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a fucking game where there is only
one winner. Everyone is playing a selfish

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game, and if you're not,
you're a moron. Yeah, and you're

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telling me like someone like Cam who's
very outspoken. If Cam was in Carr's

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position, Cam would be fighting to
protect her stars. Well, fuck Camra.

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Cam would have done the exact same
thing. Yep, agreed. We've

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seen the bathtub scene, We've seen
her act as entitled as anyone else like

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Laurel would have done the exact same
thing. Nicole would have done the exact

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same thing. It. Yeah,
it baffles me that none of them see

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that they would all do the same
shit that Kara just did. Honestly,

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I think it's just because Cara is
good at this game and always has been,

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not always. Yeah, it just
bothers me because it reminds me that

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Car's got that sort of selfish entitled
streak. Yeah, that that poly era

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that bothers me. Yeah, why
did that bother Wolfe when we just sat

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here like five minutes ago saying this
is an individual game. If you're smart,

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you are playing selfish, like we
just thought everyone should be doing what

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Car is doing. Well, it's
because I said, it reminds me that

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she's in her She's in her entitled
phase which started last week, which this

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week was not a factor in.
Yeah, and it just I just don't

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like that side of Car. I'm
not saying she was wrong to try to

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get this to happen, but just
the seeing that it wasn't going to happen

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and like throwing a tantrum about it. It's just like it is a little

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frustrating. But honestly, I think
it would have been frustrating regardless of the

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player that they did it true.
I mean, if Car saw the like

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people were gonna, you know,
put her star in danger, and she

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just sat there on her hands and
did nothing, I think we'd also be

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disappointed. It's like, why did
you not stand up for yourself? Why

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did you just let them walk all
over you? Yeah, I think it

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would have been more disappointed about the
fact that Car is usually pretty outspoken.

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If she'd sat on our hands and
done nothing, it would have been like,

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where the fuck did you go?
Like, who the hell is this?

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So? Yeah, well, we're
onto elimination already. H Uh,

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this elimination it's I think the most
physical we've seen so far. That it's

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called rope rumble. Before I saw
the rope, I saw the rope,

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I was hoping for not so fast. I know I did too. I

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was hoping for that or for that
tug of War one where they were standing

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on the boxes and Jordan pulled Josh
over. That was it was Grace,

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She's fantastic. Before anything even happens, everybody is filed in and TJ looks

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up at all of them and congratulates
Ace and Nicole and then calls Ace out.

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On the furry leopard print trench coat
that he's wearing along with his gold

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medallion. That was quite the outfit. It was pretty entertaining. I have

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a question. I don't want this
taken the wrong way because I'm I'm genuinely

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concerned. Okay, does it seem
like Ace maybe has like a Parkinson's thing

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going on? Oh, I didn't
notice. I've noticed all this season and

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then the last time he was on
he seems very twitchy, interesting, and

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you would be like, well,
I mean, you know, maybe that's

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just who he is, thinking about
the old Ace, And I mean this

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was like, you know, twenty
five years ago when he was on the

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real world. It's just not the
impression that I got. And if you

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look at him, I get shades
of like watching early Michael J. Fox

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when he that he had it.
Yeah, and I just kind of get

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like his shoulders kind of twitch a
little bit, and just the way he

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kind of holds his head and stuff
like, I don't know, it's just

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a weird thing sort of they sort
of picked up on since he was the

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winner and they focused more on him
this. Yeah, and I'm just like,

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am I just thinking about it too
much? Or is there something?

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Oh? Yeah, I'll have to
keep it. I'll have to keep an

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eye out. I had noticed that
I had an either, well, I'll

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definitely keep it out now as well, because it's pretty low key. I

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mean, he's not It's not like
modern day Michael J. Fox where he's

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just sort of all over the place. It's just like little like, oh

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man, he can't. It doesn't
seem like he can sit still, but

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not like in like like he's drugged
out or anything. It's just just kind

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of twitchy, like I said,
just kind of moving shoulder. I could

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see, like I can picture what
you mean by early Michael J. Fowx.

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No, I hadn't noticed. Granted, I also almost always are usually

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watched it on my phone and I'm
taking notes while doing it, and I'm

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usually at work. So naughty,
naughty, naughty, naughty, you guys

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know what. Ace his real name
is Is that not his real name?

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No, that's a nickname. That's
a nickname. His real name, His

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real name is Clyde. Clyde.
I feel like I might have known that.

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Maybe I'm just no, I don't
think I knew that. Interesting,

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all right? Yeah, I also
just realized that Ainsley in the chat room

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said that this was a really fun
challenge to hark him back to, you

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know, ten minutes ago. I
wholeheartedly agree that I actually really enjoyed that

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challenge too, because it was very
It was fun to watch. It was

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fun to see everybody run back and
forth. It was a very visual,

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visually pleasing challenge, unlike the ones
where they're doing a bunch of things that

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I'm sure it would be very fun
for them, but it's not fun for

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us to watch. Yeah, Like
we said that because they were all ramming

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into each other. Was kind of
like hal brawl and Jays. Yeah yep,

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all right. So TJ points out
that all four of the nominated players

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are star holders and then kind of
turns to the middle group and goes,

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how did that happen? And this
is when Veronica says that putting all star

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holders in isn't a smart decision,
but not everybody has a very high IQ,

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and you get a bunch of oh
what do you guys think of the

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decision of putting in all star holders. It makes sense, but it goes

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against Kara's right from last episode where
she's like, the star holder's got to

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look out for other star holders.
True. True, I think it's a

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great decision. I mean I'm trying
to think, like, because I do

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think it's a great decision for car, I'm trying to think like, is

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there really a big deal for those
that don't have stars already? Yeah,

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because regardless if no, if neither
of the winning players decided to go in

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against someone else, there are now
two stars that are going to be given

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to two new people. Because you've
got you either way on either one of

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these eliminations. You have two stars
going against each other, and that person

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can't keep both stars, they have
to give the other one away. So

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this immediately benefits two people. Yeah. True. I guess my only argument

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to that would be is like,
so if you're lucky enough to whoever wins

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gives you a star, then that
means you probably have a good relationship with

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that person. You can probably work
with that person and trust them. So

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you're putting an ally of yours in
danger of going home, so that we're

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worth risking losing a potential ally.
Yeah, because everybody wants stars. Did

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you not like to skip ahead to
the end real quick? Did you not

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see the look on Adams Adam's face
when Steve didn't give him the star?

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Adam was pissed. Yeah. I
don't think any of them care that you're

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putting them in danger. They're looking
at this as this is my ticket to

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the final, like I have to
have this. This is my ticket to

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the final. I feel like we're
getting close enough. Yeah, where at

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the halfway Yeah, with halfway point, and it's close enough now that it's

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time to get a star. Because
if you start doing the math and if

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you start doing well, if it's
guygirl except for TJ throws in a surprise

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like, hey, everybody's going home. This is a double elimination me.

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That means you just got to make
it through like three more challenges hopefully,

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so not two more eliminations. Okay
to have someone not steal your star.

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So let's let's say let's put the
this there. So let's say Cam was

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in the middle and Leroy was in
the bottom. You think it'd be smart

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with Leroy having a star for Cam
to say it's worth me risking LeRoy's life

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in this game and him going home
to throw in the star people because he

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could maybe win and get me a
star. Well, I'm not saying Cam,

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that's not a good idea for Cam, Yeah, because you might lose

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her ally. Yeah, but her
ally isn't the one going down, That's

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what I'm saying. So like,
if if you're receiving the star from the

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person, it's probably because they're in
an alliance with you. They're probably giving

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the star of someone they like.
So you're basically if you're saying that a

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star Leroy wouldn't be able to give
a star to Cam, and Cam wouldn't

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be able to give a start a
Leroy, they'd have to give it to

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someone of the same sex. That
Okay, that's true. That's a good

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point. So it doesn't matter,
Yeah, Zach, I don't know.

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In this instance, it wouldn't matter
because they're going against someone of their same

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gender or of their same SACS.
I just feel like if one of my

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close allies had a star, I
would still rather send in a non star

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holder than being like, let me
throw my alliance member in there because they

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are. Yeah, I mean,
if I have the chance to keep my

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alliance member safe, then yeah,
I'm gonna try that. But if it's

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if it's something where I'm going to
be out voted and my alliance member is

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going to be going down there,
then yeah, I'm not gonna be upset

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when they then give me a star
because I'm not gonna feel like it's painting

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00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,039
a target on my back. I'm
gonna look at this going all right,

407
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:46,920
I have to keep this now,
like I have to really step my game

408
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,240
up. But I mean they're ultimately
they're all trying to go for stars anyway.

409
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,319
Yeah, I mean, look at
how Jazz reacted to getting a star

410
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,720
two weeks ago. She was stoked, well because, like you said earlier,

411
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,519
she wouldn't get win any other way. Yeah, but I mean because

412
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:06,839
she wouldn't get it on any other
way. It put a target on her

413
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,880
back, but she still wanted that
star. I think they're more likely to

414
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,200
want the star than care about the
target. Yeah, yeah, I agree.

415
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,799
I think first and foremost I try
to protect my alliance. But like

416
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,680
you said, if the numbers aren't
there, and everyone else is pushing like

417
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,839
we gotta do this. I'm like, all right, I'm on board because

418
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:29,000
if they go in and win,
then I'm getting a star. But yeah,

419
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,240
yeah, So I mean, ultimately, I think this is a great

420
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,599
idea. I don't understand it.
I do understand why Veronica is pissed,

421
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:40,119
but I don't think it's everybody up
there is stupid for doing this. I

422
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,960
think they were all very smart for
doing this. No, I agree,

423
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,880
but all right, So the game, there is a big giant circle,

424
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:53,279
kind of like a pull wrestle or
whatnot. There's a big circle in the

425
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:58,640
sand. In the middle of this
circle, cross or separating the center of

426
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,720
the circle is a green and orange
beam. The two players start one on

427
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,440
either side of this beam, and
this beam has a very large heavy rope.

428
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,599
We've seen the same rope for things
like Not So Fast or the Togger

429
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:15,920
Wars. Big giant, heavy rope
and it's kind of bundled up in the

430
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,320
middle, and the point is to
get the entire rope to your opposite to

431
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,719
the opposite person's side, and the
first person to do that wins. They

432
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,039
are allowed TJ. I don't know
if this was just a voicer over for

433
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:31,760
us, or if he actually said
it to them. They are allowed to

434
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,639
jump on and over the beam.
It is not a you have to stay

435
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,159
on your side type of thing,
which I'm happy he said. Yeah.

436
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:46,239
So then he turns to Ace and
Nicole and asks the Ace, first,

437
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,280
you know, would you like to
take one of the guy's place and go

438
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:57,000
for this. Ace gives one of
the realist explanations I think we've ever heard

439
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:00,079
of. I don't think I could
beat either of them. Nope, I

440
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,840
don't want to do this. I'm
good, I'll stay right here, which

441
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,039
turns out to be a very good
decision for him. And then Nicole kind

442
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:12,320
of gives an explanation where you kind
of think that she's going to turn it

443
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,599
down, and then she says,
let's go. I'm gonna do this.

444
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:22,559
I'm gonna go down. I think
she makes some really odd decisions. So

445
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:30,559
she initially starts this off by asking
the ladies, let's make a deal.

446
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:34,480
Tell me what she'll give me as
a deal, which, again I don't

447
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,559
understand why she's asking this to someone
like Jazz. What the fuck is she

448
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,599
going to be able to offer you? Okay, so here's she going to

449
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:45,079
be able to offer you. Here's
what I think Jasmine can offer because it

450
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:46,719
seems like, you know, we
we saw on this episode people talk about

451
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,039
how well insulated Jasmine is. So
Jasmine's argument is like, hey, I

452
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:57,159
have eight people on my side.
That's eight people. If they win elimination,

453
00:35:57,679 --> 00:35:59,639
you're you know, they're good with
you. If they're in the middle,

454
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,559
I'll put you in like if you're
riding with me, my people are

455
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:07,800
writing with you. Yeah, but
okay, there are only what twelve people

456
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:13,760
there? If you have eight people
on your side, and unless you have

457
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,599
won the challenge that week, there's
the potential of her being up against Jazz

458
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:22,920
in the bottom. Jazz is people
are gonna pick Jazz, not Nicole.

459
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:29,719
They're gonna keep Jazz safe, not
Nicole. No, I agree, So

460
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,679
I think that's I honestly, I
think it's a bullshit argument because Jazz is

461
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:39,119
two connected. If she were connected
to four strong players, cool, If

462
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:45,159
she were connected to three strong players, fine, But being connected to more

463
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:50,360
than half the house, it backfires
every time. It doesn't matter who it

464
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,039
is, what season it is,
it backfires every time. You cannot be

465
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,880
that connected. I don't know though, because we heard her say, like,

466
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,400
you know, I think it is
when at the end when she's leaving,

467
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,199
Like you know, I've I've tried
to play a game I've seen so

468
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,039
many other people play. You say
it always backfires. But I feel like

469
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:07,159
this is the game Banana plays,
this is the game West plays. Like,

470
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,119
Yeah, but they are both players. They have other things to back

471
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:15,280
them up. They can win challenges, they can win eliminations. Jazz can't

472
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,679
do any of this. She is
purely riding on the fact that she's connected.

473
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:23,559
That is true, and I don't
think that she has I know that

474
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:28,440
she does not have the gameplay to
be able to back it up. Yeah,

475
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:34,920
so being that connected and not being
able to win doesn't help because they're

476
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,920
that can they Bananas and Wes and
hell even Kara for a point a part

477
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,679
of time, Laurel like, these
people are all really connected, but they

478
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:51,039
do well because they can also win
in eliminations and win and challenges and save

479
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,119
their people. So like they're able
to there's a reciprocity there. There's nothing

480
00:37:55,159 --> 00:38:00,000
with Jazz. It's just if she
happens to end up in the middle,

481
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:04,239
she'll be fine and she'll be able
to help them. But she's more likely

482
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,000
to end up in the bottom.
I agree with that, so I just

483
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:13,239
I really the overarching theme of this
episode is I don't understand why Jazz is

484
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,760
so connected and why so many people
have her back. It doesn't make any

485
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,880
sense to me. I mean,
I think it might be because she's fluff

486
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,639
and there's a lot of people to
be like, there's only one person that

487
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:24,440
can win this season. You know
who I want to run against, Jasmine.

488
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,599
Yeah that's true, that is true. But yeah, so uh,

489
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,599
Nicole asks them, let's let's make
a deal, and they both try to

490
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:38,239
say something so then Nichole says,
Okay, Jazz, I'm gonna take your

491
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:44,320
spot. I'm gonna go against Veronica. And she gets down there and Veronica

492
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,800
asks her why and she tells her, well, because you're playing with Karaica

493
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,159
is like, the fuck are you
talking about? I'm not allied with Kara.

494
00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:57,559
Where the hell would this come from? And within about thirty seconds,

495
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:01,079
Nicole chases her mind and tej so
what's going on down there? And Veronica

496
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:05,840
goes, well, I think she
wants to change her mind on who she's

497
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,159
going against. I was like,
you've got to be kidding me. This

498
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:10,480
cannot be real. This cannot what
is happening right now, This has never

499
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:14,920
happened before. You can't just decide
that you want to go the other way.

500
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,880
Yeah, I call a bullshit on
this. Yeah. I feel like

501
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,239
once you make a decision in this
game, even if it's like me and

502
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,559
Tim have talked forever, at any
point, if you're like I want to

503
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:30,440
go home, I think that is
just automatic. You're gone, all right,

504
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,639
Well, you made a decision.
And I feel like this is even

505
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,480
more like even more of an example
of as soon as you make a choice,

506
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:44,239
you have to stick with it.
Yeah. I could not believe that

507
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,360
they actually let her do this.
So she says, Yep, I'm gonna

508
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,159
change my mind, Jazz, let's
do this, and Jazz and Veronica switch

509
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:57,599
places. I believe it absolutely forward
me. I think, you know,

510
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,480
the producers thought this is better TELEVI
and then just having to stay the same.

511
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:05,079
And I feel like, had she
tried to pull this, like after

512
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,000
the men went and they got to
see the challenge, I think but would

513
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,039
say no, But the fact that
like no one had even started the challenge

514
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,159
yet, and I think they're like, hey, sure, why not?

515
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,880
You just made the decision thirty seconds
ago. Yeah, and I'm sure they're

516
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,480
also looking at it. As you
know, Nicole is the winner who gets

517
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:23,960
to choose who she wants to go
against. I can understand it from that

518
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,639
point. But to Wolfe's point,
I agree, if you make that choice,

519
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,199
you should not be able to back
out on it. I'm also wholeheartedly

520
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,920
on the if you say you want
to go home, that should be an

521
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,719
immediate yep, okay, bye,
goodbye, go home, because we've seen

522
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:44,440
it way too many times where people
say they want to go home seventy five

523
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:50,400
times and then they make it to
the end. Yeah, agreed. Yeah,

524
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,000
I don't know, don't. I
don't. This seems bullshit to me.

525
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:58,840
To let her change your mind.
I don't know. If maybe they

526
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:04,199
thought we'll switch switch it and editing, Yeah, like we'll just reshoot her

527
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,039
selected Jasmine or something. I mean
maybe, but they decided not to.

528
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,960
They decided to show the whole thing. Yeah, Chris says in the chat

529
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:13,480
room. I'm not sure what they
should have allowed. I'm not sure they

530
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:15,639
should have allowed the switch, but
props to Veronica. I agree. Perhaps

531
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:20,440
to Veronica. Veronica isn't even sure
why she how she convinced the Coole to

532
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,480
switch. Thirty second conversation of Cole's
like, Okay, yeah, cool,

533
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:29,360
I believe you. Yeah. But
here's I don't know if you guys knows

534
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,440
why. Like I believe Veronica that
she's not working with Kara, but I

535
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,079
also don't think she's working against Car. I think if they end up like

536
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:40,559
in the middle together and it benefits
Veronica to go Karl's direction, Veronica is

537
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:44,480
not gonna like be like, no, I can't do that because it's Kara's

538
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:47,159
idea. Well, yeah, because
we've seen it. We've seen Veronica do

539
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:51,519
things like that before. Like what
was it a few seasons ago when I

540
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:52,119
don't think it was in All Stars. I think it was in just a

541
00:41:52,159 --> 00:42:00,000
regular season uh when Leroy is the
uh is the burn vote and Verona kind

542
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:08,440
of looks around and goes Leroy and
throws Leroy into elimination And it's purely just

543
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:14,599
because you know, people fucked up
and she's gonna take that chance and throw

544
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:19,320
them in. Like she's very opportunity
opportunistic in that way, and it benefits

545
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,760
her in this game, yeah,
because like if next week Tina's in danger

546
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,519
and she can save Tina by working
with Kara. She's gonna make the move

547
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:34,320
with Carara. Yeah course, yep. All right, So I mean everybody

548
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,360
on the stage, everybody, everybody
there is just as flabber gets it as

549
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,159
we are. But they have the
switch. How do you think Jasmine was

550
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:49,960
feeling? Oh my god, I
would be livid, like all of you

551
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000
know, I've been super hyped for
getting into this elimination, like Okay,

552
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,880
I'm going against Veronica, We're gonna
I'm gonna kick some ask I'm gonna do

553
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,159
really well, I'm gonna do this. And then Nicole says, oh you

554
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:01,679
don't have to do that. Oh
thank you, and just all of that

555
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,480
would have gone flooding at him,
Like I'd have been like, okay,

556
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,239
I'm fine, I'm safe, I'm
good. And then to immediately have that

557
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,960
pit but put back in your stomach
is still oh. I would have been

558
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,079
so mad. It's so mad.
Yeah, I mean she seems to take

559
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:22,400
it relatively well, but it was
still just like what what just happened?

560
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:31,639
But can we talk about TJ's magic
trick. TJ's magic trick. Oh,

561
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:37,400
with Nicole's changing clothes, She's got
a change and then like a little like

562
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:42,599
quick like flash boom, She's in
her uniform. TJ's got his hand up

563
00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:50,559
like you just made it happened on
his face. It's just like like I

564
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:57,480
did it. See I figured that
Nicole was basically already dressed and just had

565
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:00,360
a sweater over her over her shirt. No, it's like a quick,

566
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:04,760
quick flash and she's just like,
oh oh, how did I get my

567
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,800
uniform. I'm gonna have to go
back and watch parts of this episode.

568
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:14,440
I still haven't gone watched and gone
back and watched the Brad's boner bit Bread's

569
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:21,800
boner. It's a great little clip
from what's the last episode? All right,

570
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:27,559
So onto the competition. The men
go first. Cathla starts is off

571
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:30,519
super strong, like at one point
in time, he fully picks Steve up

572
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:37,760
and throws him to the other side
of this rope sort of a fireman's carry

573
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:45,159
situation. Yeah it was. It
was impressive, but ultimately Steven's up winning

574
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:51,280
Kafla's hamstring kind of gives out on
him. Titans, he gasses out.

575
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:57,519
Yeah, so I could. I
could see that. I would probably guess

576
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:00,760
out pretty quick. I'd come in
super hot. Yeah, people be like,

577
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,599
oh shit, and then I would
just guess out immediately. Yep.

578
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:08,679
So yeah, stevens up winning,
which is unfortunate because I like KEFLA and

579
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:14,400
then the women go, uh nothing
really all that notable. Nicole wins super

580
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:20,679
fast. I also like KEFLA,
but as glad Steve stayed yeah, uh

581
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,199
yeah, Nicole win's super fast.
Jazz seems to take it pretty well.

582
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,199
She doesn't seem all that upset by
it. This is good, although I

583
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,360
will say it did annoy me.
Ken what you were talking about earlier with

584
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,039
the whole like, what's Jasmine's power
in this game? Like when Jasmine friends

585
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:40,480
got called back down? She tells
Nicole, you're gonna regret this decision.

586
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,639
Yeah, I was just like,
no, she's not. You're going home.

587
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,599
There's nothing you can do to make
her regret it. She talks a

588
00:45:50,599 --> 00:46:00,119
big game Jesus Christ, Caroland,
mhmm, stop scratching. What's funny is

589
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:06,320
she was like eight feet away?
Apparently apparently just picks it up a little.

590
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:12,639
Well. Yeah, so Nicole gets
Jazz a star. Good for her.

591
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:15,880
She's now one of the star holders, and TJ tells Steve, well,

592
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,119
you can't keep two stars, so
who you can give the other one

593
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:23,199
too? And Steve. This is
when he, even though he's very good

594
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:28,159
friends with Adam, he turns to
Adam and says, you know, I

595
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,559
want you to get your star.
I want to compete in the final with

596
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:34,280
you. I really want to do
this with you, but I'm not gonna

597
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,880
give you a star tonight. His
reasoning is because he wants to give it

598
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,119
to someone neutral, not someone who's
gonna basically set a bomb off in the

599
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:45,559
house, which he thinks Adam would
be, and he ends up giving it

600
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:50,360
to Ace. So Ace's choice to
not go down into elimination tonight was a

601
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,280
very good one because he got a
store anyway. Yeah, it's just like

602
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,400
what the fuck? But this is
where I noted Steve. This is yet

603
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,159
another instance of Steve acting real weird
and just he picks up the star and

604
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,639
is like turning it and looking at
it super I don't know it. It

605
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:10,039
was like Gullum with a ring.
It just he's a hand model, Carli.

606
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,280
I know, but it's just weird. I also don't really get the

607
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,280
decision to give it to acens of
Adam, Like did I miss something where

608
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,440
we feel like Adam with a star
is going to become like some super house

609
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:27,880
villain or something. I don't know. I don't I don't understand that decision

610
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,079
either. It made no sense to
me. Like Adam had it start at

611
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:35,039
the beginning of the season. He
was just fine with it, like and

612
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:37,920
the only reason he doesn't have one
now sins it got stolen, like it

613
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,599
just yeah, it's weird to me. I don't understand why he made that

614
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:44,360
decision. If I were in his
place and I had the chance to give

615
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:50,679
my biggest alliance a star, I
would do that. Like we're far enough

616
00:47:50,679 --> 00:47:53,519
in this game now that that person
could potentially hold on to it for the

617
00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:59,880
rest of the season. I guess
the only potential argument is if he's thinking,

618
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:02,400
you know, with what went down
tonight, like you know, we're

619
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,519
people that have stars are gonna be
s targets, and so it's like I

620
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:09,880
don't want to be down here next
week against Adam, Like Okay, I

621
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,840
can understand it in that aspect,
but I mean, regardless of who it

622
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,679
is that has the star, they're
all targets every week. So yeah,

623
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:21,719
but I mean I neither understand not
wanting to go against your friend. Yeah,

624
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,119
because I's think I continued the trend
of throwing in the star hoards,

625
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:25,679
like I great, give me Ace
then next week and I'll take out Ace.

626
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:30,440
Yeah. Well that's the thing though, is like I don't think any

627
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,599
of uh, well no, I
can't say that none of the guys are

628
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,880
not strong players. Like Ace is
still a pretty strong player. Like I

629
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:42,159
honestly think that if if Steve were
if he didn't want to like blow up

630
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:45,639
the house, and he wanted to
give it to a player who Adam could

631
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:47,360
potentially take it from at a later
date, he should have given it to

632
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:52,000
like Ryan or Derek. I feel
like they would be a much better,

633
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:59,000
much easier chance for Adam to get
a star than Ace would be until they

634
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:02,079
go against Derek and a nation that
requires lots of running. That's true,

635
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:07,159
but like Ace is super smart.
So if it's anything having to do with

636
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:12,039
a puzzle, then I don't know
if they're gonna win it. Yeah.

637
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:15,199
I mean, granted, they can
still go against someone else entirely and just

638
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,400
steal his star, So if there's
that, yeah, I just I don't

639
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,000
know. I don't feel like I
don't feel like really any of the choices

640
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:29,639
except for maybe Brad, I don't
feel like anybody would really blow up the

641
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:32,280
house in the way that he seems
to think it would. And maybe it's

642
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,000
not even giving as to start,
it takes from him later. Maybe he

643
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:37,119
wants as in the finals, like
yeah, and then we're gonna get you

644
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:43,800
Leroy star Adham. Yeah. Maybe
I don't know. Well, that's the

645
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,760
end of the end of the episode. I'm looking forward to next episode.

646
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,920
But his next episode is tritty.
Yeah, favorite episode of the season.

647
00:49:55,559 --> 00:50:00,760
Zach, you want to give us
our updated standings for the Time League.

648
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,360
Absolutely, I can't say. I'm
sure you guys probably assume this watching episode.

649
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,079
Carlin had a massive week this week. Oh did I really? You

650
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:14,760
did? You had both Ace and
Nicole on your team this week. Oh

651
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:21,199
shit, I do have a team, all right. At least I did

652
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,599
well so points for this week,
you know. Uh, for this week

653
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:30,039
alone, Carlin came in first place
with fourteen points. I came in second

654
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:37,880
with five points, Wolfian third with
two points, and Tim had negative to

655
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:45,880
Tim. Tim is down to one
and overall he's down to just one person,

656
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:52,079
just Brad. Oh oh, Tim, You're so fucked all right,

657
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:58,039
So overall it sucks. So in
last place it's Tim with twenty five points.

658
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:04,239
Uh, dropping into third place.
Wolfy with thirty six. Carlin has

659
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,519
jumped into second place with forty four, and I'm still slightly ahead with fifty

660
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:15,000
eight. Slightly forty four to fifty
eight. That's not slightly. I'm meg.

661
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:20,079
You jumped fourteen points this week,
Carlin. If if Eighth and Nicole

662
00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:22,760
win next week, you're gonna be
up there tied with me. Yeah,

663
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:30,719
if you don't score any points,
true, I call bullshit rigg Alright,

664
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,920
well, I'm gonna say that the
Public League is also rigged because I didn't

665
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,400
put my picks in this week.
I'm still doing better, still doing better.

666
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:45,679
It is ranked three, I'm number
two. Yeah, so Public League

667
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:51,039
the devil himself with six hundred and
sixty six points. Mister whatever Sve is

668
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:55,159
back in first place. Wooo,
well done. Steve, Zachie Bananas is

669
00:51:55,159 --> 00:52:00,760
in second. I even though I
didn't put in any well, Big Uncle

670
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,639
Sweet Tea has moved up a seventh. And even though I didn't put in

671
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,679
any picks for this past week,
I'm still in an eighth, which I'm

672
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:15,199
okay with. And then we have
Wolfy wait down at thirty three. At

673
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,559
least you're beating Tim in the our
league. Wilf. I guess, so

674
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,199
who are you? Who did you
pick last week? Wolfe? Oh,

675
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:28,519
you've got one hundred and nine points. Nice, So you picked Cam,

676
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:34,840
Laurel and Leroy. Alright. I
figured there'd be more fallout from last week's

677
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:43,360
episode. Last week and Nicole got
one hundred and eleven points herself. This

678
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,000
past week, here me who I
had Nicole, Laurel and someone else.

679
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:52,840
I think I think we have yeah. Yeah, So Nicole scored scored one

680
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,159
hundred and eleven points by herself,
so she had coitus for twenty five points.

681
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,719
She won the elimination, She won
the regular challenge. Uh TJ says,

682
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:07,440
you're killing it. She stole a
star, She had eight confessionals.

683
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,519
She was the first team repaired to
do a challenge, which I think that

684
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:22,280
was kind of everybody. She survived
another episode, and she said what she

685
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,199
would do with the prize money.
I don't remember her saying what she was

686
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:30,079
gonna do with the prize money,
but apparently what she was going to do

687
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:36,760
with the prize money. Yeah,
so one hundred and eleven points. Goddamn

688
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:45,400
girl. Yeah, I don't know. She's doing good though. I thought

689
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,400
Laura would get more points too,
for participating in the Coitus. I thought

690
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:53,800
both of them would have massive weeks. But yeah, Laurel, let's see,

691
00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:02,000
she got Coitus eight confessionals again being
first parent team I everybody was,

692
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:06,199
I think at the same time.
So I think everybody got that, survived

693
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:12,079
an episode and said let's go.
So she's missing the all of the elimination

694
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,679
and star stuff. Yeah, I
mean she still got forty six points,

695
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:19,119
which is not it's nothing to shake
a stick out. I mean Brad got

696
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:27,679
eleven. Jesus, do we think
do we think Brad go ahead, go

697
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,840
for it? Say? Do we
think Brad has any chance of making to

698
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,159
the end in winning as Tim's only
person? Oh my god, I mean

699
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,320
with the funk ups that he's had
the last two episodes, if that man

700
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,920
does not get his head in the
game, he's going to be out in

701
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:49,280
the next few weeks, Like poor
Tim, stupid fucking decisions. Tim will

702
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,719
have to go like the whole second
half of the season being like and Tim's

703
00:54:51,719 --> 00:55:04,320
eliminated from the draft already, poor
man. Es goodness. You can also

704
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,800
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705
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:13,119
Join our Patreon five dollars a month. What do we get in the Patreon

706
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:20,639
pre shows after shows? Also we
read your name off, so thank you

707
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:27,519
to Abby Ainsley, Alana, Alvin, Amanda, Anna, Brian, Caroline,

708
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:35,199
Christian Christopher, Cindy, Derek,
Eduardo, Elizabeth, Ellen, Greg,

709
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,159
Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jennifer, Julie, Caitlin, Catherine,

710
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:49,239
Christy, Laura Lords, Martees,
Maverick, Mendy, Patty, Roldan.

711
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,559
This is it. I feel like
this is a much longer list than we've

712
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:59,840
had in previous weeks. Oh rolld
and Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Sarah,

713
00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:02,800
Scott, Seth, Shaq Shick,
Our smile of Jack stand is a

714
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:08,480
roll list. Steven, Steven Taylor
and Will. Thanks guys, I had

715
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,840
it filtered. I don't know why
I still shut up that way. You

716
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:21,840
will keep our lights on appreciated.
Ummm what if that changes it? That

717
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,519
does change it? Yeah, Brad
looking at the standing I've just been running

718
00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:29,679
through all the standings for everybody,
the points that they've scored in the Public

719
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:35,920
League. Brad scored sixty three points
in week one and every week since so

720
00:56:36,039 --> 00:56:40,400
he's had eight thirty to twenty and
eleven. Brad is not doing well in

721
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:49,079
this Fantasy Game, it's not so
Big Uncle Sweet. In the web version

722
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:54,320
of the Fantasy game for the private
one for us, I'm in first place

723
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,159
with seven hundred and ninety eight.
Zach is in second place with seven hundred

724
00:56:59,159 --> 00:57:02,599
and thirteen. Wolf He's in third
place with seven hundred and six, and

725
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:08,000
Big Uncle Sweet Tea is in fourth
place with four hundred and ninety seven.

726
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:16,440
There is a two hundred plus point
gap between him and third poor man.

727
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:22,039
Did we figure out what the loser
is gonna have to do if they if

728
00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:30,280
they lose this? The fantasy league
we have now, I mean, I

729
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,320
think we can safely assume, like, let's figure out what we're gonna make

730
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:40,639
him do the jojo come on the
show. Oh, that'd be great,

731
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,559
well, Zach, do you have
any social media stuff? No, major

732
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:52,719
social media stuff. The only cads
say is the new reality show on Amazon,

733
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:58,039
The Goat, started today. They
dropped the first three episodes with people

734
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:02,119
competing from various reality shows to prove
that they're the greatest reality contest of all

735
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:07,639
time. And we have tech Money
representing the challenge. We also have Davonney

736
00:58:08,639 --> 00:58:12,920
and Davon is also on there representing
Big Brother though, but She's also a

737
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,880
former Challenger. Nice, so check
that out. Amaz. I haven't watched

738
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:24,360
it yet but should be good.
Wendell from Survivors also on there, Wolfe.

739
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:30,719
I'm sure you know Wendell. Uh
probably if I saw him, well,

740
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:36,159
he was the Ghost Island winner.
Yeah, I don't, I didn't.

741
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:42,480
I don't know then by name,
Okay, yeah, I guess that's

742
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:46,360
it. Thanks for listening, everybody, and for this episode of Challenge that

743
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:52,880
has been Brian Carl in San Diego, Zachie Bananas and I don't remember the

744
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,880
quote zach wanted me to say.
It wasn't something like take your pants off,

745
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:07,159
put your pants down, your pads, don go Chie got Schalie and Shallie Chie
