WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.240 Hey, everybody, Jim Cummings here, Thanks for stopping buy don't go anywhere. 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:08.240 Why. I'll tell you why because coming up next we've got tuned in 3 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:13.480 with Jim Cummings starring Billy West. Billy West, come on, what you 4 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:16.280 know? You're not going anywhere now. Oh by the way, don't forget 5 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:22.440 to check out our bonus content on Patreon. Be there. How you doing 6 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:27.559 out there? It's me Tigger am Dark Wing Duck. It's me Bunkers keep 7 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:32.039 bobcat. All right, y'all, did it rain your favorite firefly? You 8 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:36.320 design? Hold the old knock. My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to 9 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:42.880 tune Jim. But it was funny because it was something to do with Ghostbusters 10 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:48.679 and Extreme Ghostbusters. We were all eat music, Yeah, yeah, yes, 11 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:53.479 and mall. And it was funny because I was singing the whole time 12 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:57.119 and nobody knew it was me, apparently in the podcast, and because they're 13 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.159 all my friends, and I was thinking, somebody knowledge. Then I'm singing 14 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:04.599 the goddamn theme song, but the sud that's strange in the neighborhood. Who 15 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:11.439 are you gonna call Ghostbusters? Bit? It was the Extreme Ghostbusters theme song. 16 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:14.599 It was the same song, but different, really different. Yeah. 17 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:18.640 Well, and that was interesting that it was interesting for me because I tried 18 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:23.239 to disavow that I was new. I was green, new in town. 19 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:30.079 You weren't green. I get booked on this show Extreme Ghostbusters and they said, 20 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.200 yeah, we want you to do a slimer and I said, well, 21 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:37.239 wait a minute, that's mister Frank Welker's gig. Yeah, and they 22 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:42.959 said he doesn't want to do it. M hmm. So stupidly I just 23 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.319 said, you know, I mean, everybody was like, yeah, welcome 24 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.040 on, we got you on, blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, 25 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:53.519 and I translation, I hadn't even met Frank, right, and boy, 26 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:57.719 I threw a seven that week. I said, I can't get out of 27 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.359 this. Feel horrible. I felt like heel like a like a small No, 28 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:05.439 well, nobody thinks that of you, but yeah, they you know, 29 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:07.960 And I think what Billy's alluding to is then when he said, well 30 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:13.280 he doesn't really want to do it, they don't finish the sentence right for 31 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:17.520 Scale, Right, that's what he didn't want to do for Scale. Okay, 32 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:22.000 yeah, I mean you got a second or third season thanks to who 33 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.319 you know, me a little bit. Could I have some too? No, 34 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.919 none for you. No. And but they don't tell that to the 35 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:32.800 people that they are never to pay the fiddler. They'd rather spend it on 36 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:38.800 ice sculptures. Yeah, you know, they never got money to pay the 37 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:44.919 fiddler. Oh my god, they entertainment sadly, that's deadly accurate. We 38 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:49.960 were doing something years ago and Wayne, Wayne all Wine, Rucy Taylor, 39 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:54.400 Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse and myself. We were down in Florida at the 40 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:58.280 opening up. I think it was actually for the opening up Disney World. 41 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:00.840 I mean, this is like, no, it couldn't have been that that 42 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:05.759 long ago. Anyway, it's some big to do and uh so they all 43 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:08.159 they had to have poo and Tiger and and Mickey and Minny and so. 44 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:14.439 And I think Goofy was there, and we're walking by these incredible for the 45 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:19.840 for the press, these astonishing ice sculptures, big giant and Mickey, you 46 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.000 know, and there's Goofy taking a pee on a tree, big ice tree, 47 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:27.960 and you know, and there's there's you know, Donald's over there doing 48 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:31.400 o arm parts and ice. It was amazing, you know, And we 49 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:35.639 are being schlept on and we'll go wow, oh boy, that went all 50 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.319 out on this. Yeah. And then they go right this way, right 51 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:42.240 this way, and oh, okay, well this looks pretty good here. 52 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:45.599 I mean, I like crab, you know, and lobster. And we 53 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:51.879 go downstairs and we go inside this little Disney tower, a parapet, you 54 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:53.439 know, like one of those little round things on the edge of the castle. 55 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:58.479 And we walked down the steps. We're walking and we finally hit the 56 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:00.919 ground floor, which is like way down there, and it's dark, and 57 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.719 they flick on a light and there's a card table over there with a can 58 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:13.039 of cheese whiz Ritz crackers and a couple of avions. And then and and 59 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:17.839 we're we're going wow, you know, and and it was just maybe some 60 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.360 chocolate chip cookies. But you had to open up the ritz. It was 61 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:25.839 still in the box, you know. And he had to go off when 62 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:30.680 you saw and we and I the one who set this card table up. 63 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:35.040 Yes it was it was early on, but yes I had words. And 64 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:38.759 we walked over and Rucy said, oh my god, look at least there's 65 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:42.160 a bar here. So she so for it, says, gimme, I'm 66 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.439 our teeny, you know, Rucy Taylor was she was, she was abroad. 67 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.040 She was great, Yeah, yeah, you know and she and and 68 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:50.639 and he goes, yes, ma'am, that'll be four fifty. She said 69 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:58.199 what I said, do you know who she is? I'm sorry? And 70 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:00.560 I said, do you know who she is? This is Minie Mouse? 71 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:05.319 Mini Mouse wants it goddamn Martini, Gira Martiny. Yeah, And I get 72 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:09.399 your boss down here, and and I said, no, we have to 73 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.639 leave. This is silly. We're not are we? Are we? You 74 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.319 ashamed of us? Is it something we didn't say? Because we had to 75 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:21.600 get up at six o'clock in the morning in Florida, which is three o'clock 76 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:28.519 drivetime, no morning drive. Eighteen radio. Oh that's a big one. 77 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:31.519 Eighteen radios. Billy knows. Oh man, you you did those? You 78 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:38.680 were those radio was a great place for somebody like me. We're rolling away, 79 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:42.480 huh oh yeah here, well yeah we started. Yeah, I think 80 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:46.680 we still find something. You have to edit it. I don't care. 81 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:48.839 No, I'm just kidding. My guest, my guest today is the great 82 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.600 Gym coming. Oh yes, I have to get my radio voice. You 83 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:56.639 know what? Every time I look at podcasts, Yeah, there'll be people 84 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:01.319 and like everybody's got a microphone. Now, if I invested, like in 85 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:08.240 Yetti and all those the explosion of podcast it's like the Beatles selling guitars. 86 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:11.040 You know, it's like, you know what it is. These people have 87 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:17.240 fetishized microphones to the point they light up their purple and green and uh and 88 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:21.879 I'm sick of looking at them after forty three years, you know. And 89 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.680 I love it how everybody's got to look the part. Even though you don't 90 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:30.199 need headphones, we can hear each other. Fine, yeah, yeah that 91 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:32.319 was you that said that, right, Yeah, I thought so you don't 92 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:39.519 need headphones and uh and if someone's recording you even with a phone, you 93 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:43.240 don't need microphones either when I think about it. But no, it's like 94 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:46.920 you gotta It's like the lifeguard that shows up to the beach, you know, 95 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.399 with a surfboard and a row boat and you know, five pairs of 96 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:56.600 trunks and yeah, man, I'm a lifeguard. Yeah that's right. I 97 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.959 want I want to say something, okay, And I don't know how I'm 98 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.480 important it is, but yeah, it's important to me because I've got a 99 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:09.199 lot of friends that I go way back with. Um, you know guys 100 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:14.680 that became producers or guys that did this or that, and uh, it 101 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:17.279 doesn't seem like it, but we go back quite a way as at this 102 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:23.680 point and uh yeah, And isn't it funny when you're sitting with like Robbie 103 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:30.480 Paulson or Maurice LaMarsh or you know, us tres Tress that we never became 104 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.759 yesterday's men. Do you know what I mean? You could have been put 105 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:39.279 out a commission seventeen years ago and you never come back. Yeah, so 106 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:45.240 good. But you know it's like you're one of the reigning champions. I'm 107 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:50.000 I'm working my way to complimenting you. It's remarkable us twenty years to realize 108 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:55.560 we were lasting. Yeah, because how many people did you start off with? 109 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.360 Did you know? Did you do auditions with? Did you do and 110 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.279 cartoon one or two? Car tunes one or two? And they are not 111 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.600 around anymore. I mean, God willing, they're still alive, but there 112 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:09.360 are not working. Well. I was in New York, I had I 113 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.639 had been doing radio in Boston. You know, I came by radio by 114 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:18.519 the way of being a musician and being out of work when disco came in. 115 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:22.079 And you have to know that Billy West is one of the baddest guitar 116 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.600 players you ever met, not even if you didn't meet him. Look at 117 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.639 these hands, Look at the arts rioters. You can see the wells and 118 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.720 the bumps. Yeah, but that's a That's a sea cord, isn't it 119 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:33.320 When you just tell us. See he just held up his hands and he 120 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.519 can't fight it. No, I can't fight it. The funk is in 121 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.960 his trunk. So I got into radio when when Disco came in. You 122 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.159 know, it was like we were playing everywhere and we had gigs, you 123 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.720 know, the team, and it was like one day we got sucked out 124 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.440 of the window of a jet. Fuck. You know, they got rid 125 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:56.679 of the stages. They brought in the mirror balls and the hanging giant refrigerator 126 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:03.000 size speakers, and I said, answers the star now, which was bad 127 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:05.639 news. If you had a combo, you were you were done. Yeah. 128 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.600 So I got into radio at that point, and um, it was 129 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:11.320 a good lateral move. Yeah. And that was Boston, and then I 130 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:16.759 moved to New York and I started working with Howard Stern. We were sort 131 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.840 of my boss. I've heard of him. Yes, Hey, Robin, 132 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:26.440 I just farted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, how yeah, 133 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:30.919 I turned into Robin there's the Yeah right, I love that. The Idiots 134 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.440 Guide to the Stern Show. Yeah, what do you a sea comp? 135 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:39.600 Do you coom? Yeah? Yeah? Well I remember seeing and it was 136 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.320 I don't know, I guess it was entertainment Tonight. And you were It 137 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.440 was when Howard was really starting to break. Of course you were there. 138 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.080 You were riding the wave, man, you were you were on top of 139 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:52.799 it. And and you were there and we had not met yet and you 140 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.759 were still in New York obviously, yes, and you're doing March shot and 141 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:00.879 I thought, and like that, and then you us that did the Larry 142 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:07.200 Fine and I said, this guy's amazing. I love Nobody does Larry Fine. 143 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.120 Yeah, everybody. I'm a kind of pan you know, but nobody 144 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:16.919 does Larry. Everybody's really stoic until you do something low brow like Larry. 145 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:22.360 And there's so much chisel on the tree. Yeah, you know what. 146 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.679 He was from Philly and they all had I don't know what it is that 147 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:33.039 Atlantic that plugged up kind of because George O, the voice of George Jetson 148 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:35.840 was from Philly. Okay, yeah, yeah, that stuffed up Come on, 149 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:41.159 Cleves away. Yeah, you take an extra five minutes just to get 150 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:46.120 there. Yeah. I sang a song as George Jetson that really that they 151 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:50.840 didn't use. I was so proud. Well, I did a couple of 152 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:54.639 commercials. It was me and the and it was split down between me and 153 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.559 like Jeff Bergman, if you don't know that name, you should is. 154 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:03.559 He's an incredible technion and voice guy. And he he did his time as 155 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:09.919 Bugs and he's back again doing it, I believe. But I started to 156 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.879 talk about how when I was in radio, I was auditioning around New York 157 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:20.960 City and my friend Eddie Gordetski, who was in radio with me and Boston, 158 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.679 became a big producer out here, but this was when we were still 159 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.600 kind of bumming around in New York. And he said, I went to 160 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:35.279 an audition today and there was a guy sitting next to me and I recognized 161 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.360 his voice, and I said, are you Jackson Beck? And Jack the 162 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.559 Old Mighty Lion says yeah, sure I am. You know, Yeah, 163 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:48.120 I'm Jackson Beck and yeah, and uh, my friends talking a home and 164 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.360 says, oh my god, I can't believe I'm sitting here with you. 165 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.320 And well, where you've been We've been saving a seat for you, you 166 00:11:54.399 --> 00:12:01.639 know that kind of and and then he said, my end, Billy West, 167 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:07.399 does you all the stuff that you do and everything? Jesus, that's 168 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.200 wonderful, that's great. Give me his phone number, tell me where he 169 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:15.919 lives, and I'll kill him. Yeah. See I was thinking that, 170 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.960 yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh that's great. Blue though, yea for 171 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.360 those things, you know. I mean, Jackson Becket was this mighty, 172 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.639 mighty voice of the twentieth century. I mean, if I could, if 173 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.600 I could stick it, hang it on one guy, it was him. 174 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:35.639 He was the narrator of The Superman on radio. Yeah. Paul Freeze was 175 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.799 in there, Paul Freeze. Yeah, yeah, Um, all these great 176 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.559 voice guys. I mean, we can't help, but you know, mention 177 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:50.360 them because they they were the grist for our mill. You know, we 178 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:56.039 were a little kids sitting in front of the TV going what who? Yeah? 179 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.000 Is there there's a real adult behind this character. I mean, I'm 180 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:01.200 not stupid, I know it, But what kind of people are these? 181 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.399 I thought they were magic, pure magic. Yeah. And I remember meeting 182 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:11.039 Mark Elliott and he was the guy who did Disney The Disney's Wonderful World of 183 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:16.799 color. Oh him and he and he was so cool. And and back 184 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.480 back then when we first started, when I first started out here, you 185 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.279 would meet somebody and and it would beat like Don la Fontaine, right, 186 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.600 Don la Fontaine coming up neck. You know, I can't even do him, 187 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.320 you know, you absolutely and and but I mean, you know, 188 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:33.799 and he'd he'd come up to you and he'd say, hey, how are 189 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:39.360 you doing? And I thought that movie theaters talking to me, right, 190 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.240 it sounded like I was my name was a movie. It's surreal because it's 191 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:48.919 the only reference you had for these incredible voices, and they're so iconic, 192 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:52.360 you just go. It's it just pulls you right back. Yes, out 193 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:54.360 of the West, out of the Western sky. Call them the sky King. 194 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.159 Yes. Whoever, I don't even know who that dude was. Um? 195 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:03.000 Who was the guy? Um? The lone ranger guy? Oh right, 196 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:05.840 he not. I know the actor's name, Clay Moore, but I 197 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:11.399 can't think of the announcer. Huh um, I can't slipping. But yeah, 198 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.759 we got turned on, like we sat up and barked like Lassie when 199 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:20.320 we heard these voices. Art Gilmore, Art Gilmore, the guy that did 200 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:26.320 all those movie trailers Frederick William Foy. So his name Frederick William Foy. 201 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:30.919 Maybe that is I don't know, three names, sounds good. And those 202 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:37.120 guys had a similar um approach. And Dick two Feld Hey there, hi 203 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:43.039 there, oh there, oh yes, Mickey Mouse Club, Yes, and 204 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:46.519 he played the robot on Lost in Space. Yes, warning a little Robin 205 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:54.240 Sudden and and uh yes. It was a big influence on us because oh 206 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:56.879 yeah, he was the radio guy on TV. There was a show called 207 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:01.559 laugh In and the joy was their phone. He would have one era and 208 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:05.240 we used to think that that was like an affectation, but it's a little 209 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:11.039 more than that. It actually helps you. Yeah, and um and I 210 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.360 liked one of his publicity photos where he had a fake hand on the side 211 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.200 of his head and there was no arm. It was just a hand and 212 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.440 he's going like he's talking into a mic. He was so funny and so 213 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:28.639 just whacky. Yeah for a guy who sounded so straight laced. Yeah, 214 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.799 my favorite line was his this is your off stage announcer, reminding you that 215 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.000 this is your off stage announcer. Yep, there was nothing you know, 216 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.759 he wrote those because he was whacky. Oh manah and so uh you know, 217 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.759 when you were talking to this guy off off off the job site, 218 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.960 you know, if you're having launched or something. You sounded like you felt 219 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.320 like you were in the middle of the eleven o'clock news. Yeah, yeah, 220 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.440 that's true. Yeah, yeah. I had that with Don Lafonte, 221 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:03.480 Billy whatever had and to that John Chris Flucy, you know, or you 222 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:08.759 know, I got the Three Stooges their star on Hollywood Boulevard. And when 223 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:11.639 we were at more So in Frank's once any point, you see that corner 224 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:17.759 over there, it was like a history lesson where I sat there with Marilyn 225 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:22.320 Monroe in nineteen fifty seven, and you know, he had a story for 226 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:27.080 ever because he was like the missing link between old Hollywood and nowadays. Yeah 227 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:32.960 yeah, yeah, boy, that's cool. Now I think you are the 228 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:36.120 missing link, the missing link. I don't know, I was feeling it. 229 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:38.000 Can you walk with your knuckles dragging on the floor, because that would 230 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:41.840 help? Oh God, what I spent? Let me ask the question, 231 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:47.480 what do I spend more money on hair dye or men's disposable diapers. That's 232 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:51.360 a tough one. I just hope I go quietly and definitely the diapers ce 233 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.399 definitely a diapers. In fact, I'll be right back. I gotta I 234 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:04.079 gotta make a deposit. I got up some mud. Yeah. If you're 235 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.319 enjoying everything we do, hear it tuned in and want access to even more 236 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.319 Jim Cummings podcasts, you can support the show today on Patreon. 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But now, when you first got because you you 245 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.720 started in New York with all the with the Howard Stone show, Yes, 246 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.880 and that was that through an agent? Did you do that like a regular 247 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.519 vo guy? Or how did the hell did you get that gig? I 248 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:02.640 got it because the station and bias him was the flagship of Infinity broadcasting. 249 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:06.440 It was where you were, and I was there and I wanted out. 250 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:10.079 It was just it was it was growing pains. I wanted to go to 251 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:11.880 New York. I didn't care. I was willing to throw the dice. 252 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:15.839 Yeah, yeah, you know, I'll do the I'll do the sidewalk drill 253 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:19.599 and do knock on doors. I was willing to do anything. And I 254 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:25.839 had a lot of energy because I was a young guy. And our sister 255 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:32.799 station w x RK in New York had come into this morning guy Howard Stern, 256 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:37.680 who was in Washington, DC originally DC one on one and he got 257 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.920 fired and he was getting a reputation for being like really ranked and notorious, 258 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:48.960 and what he was doing was laying the foundation for just about everybody's style in 259 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:53.039 one way or another. Um yeah, you know. I mean, now 260 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:57.400 there's so many Howards. There's sports Howards, and there's check Howards and there. 261 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:02.359 You know what I mean. It's and he he himself is it's like 262 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:08.200 being nibbled to death by ducks. You know, he was he was pure, 263 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:12.039 he was undiluted. And then you know, yeah, years of people 264 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:17.000 just taking all Okay, we'll ste our version of that. Yeah, yeah, 265 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.359 that's what happened. But um, but I got it because it was 266 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:23.759 our Sisters station and the president of Infinity Mel Karmers, and said, if 267 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:26.920 you want to go to New York, I'll bring you in New York. 268 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:32.359 Um, but no, not everybody wants to live in a sewa because he 269 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:38.079 was paying me through probably right about the bean blore o so big box huh 270 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:42.720 yeah, yeah, okay, pulling coin. Yeah, the subway, this 271 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:47.279 is big time radio. I used to walk for fifty blocks in New York 272 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:48.880 because I was just like I was like candid, you know, I was 273 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.119 looking everywhere. Wow, wow, look at this, this is New York. 274 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.839 And then when you're not looking, somebody's like, hey, give me 275 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.400 a wallet. Yeah wow, this really is New York. Thank you, 276 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.200 here's my wallet. It's the least I could do. Yeah. Yeah, 277 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:07.920 is this local color? Dog gun it? You're good? Yeah, Little 278 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:15.240 Johnny Jones oh Man, So what was your first animation gig first animation gig? 279 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:21.720 I was still in Boston. It was nineteen eighty oh in Boston eighty 280 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:26.160 six. Wow. Um. They were gonna redu Beanie and Cecil, which 281 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:32.519 was a show from the sixties. Remember a Bob clip pet cartoon, and 282 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:36.200 that guy was really interesting. There's not a lot about him out there, 283 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:41.640 but his name was IRV Shoemaker and he did Dishonest John and he did Cecil 284 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.559 was yes, he did both Cecil and Dishonest John. And there was an 285 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:52.319 announcer you probably worked with him named Jim McGeorge. He played Uncle Captain off 286 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:59.240 Puff. Oh yeah, but he was doing the Al Perry. Yeah yeah, 287 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:03.599 yeah that one. Yeah yeah, yeah. That was such a weird 288 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.240 show. It wasn't It was hip and it was really cool. And I 289 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:14.240 remember there was a lion called Tara Long Lion and it took and I was 290 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:17.440 fifteen one day and it went wait a minute, I get it. Yeah 291 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.359 right, you know ten years later. Yeah, sure. But there was 292 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:27.480 some hip stuff going on in that show. There was a avant garde wild 293 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:33.359 man and they named the the Caveman who was on Beanie and Cecil, the 294 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:38.480 wild Man from Wildsville and he was beat Nick. Yeah. And there was 295 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:44.400 bongo music. Yes, yes, yes, I remember the Lord Buckley. 296 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:49.039 It was really Lord Lord Buckle, the guy oh man you fought because he 297 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:52.640 was he Oh wow, she has the British guy. It wasn't he, 298 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:56.640 No, he wasn't British. He was. It was like fake British. 299 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:00.480 His name was Sir Lord Buckley. But I mean he decided to make himself 300 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:07.000 why not so that people would just yeah it did he have? Oh man, 301 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:14.000 that's the wildest. Yeah, you were that beatnick sort of groove and 302 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:18.400 um then they use and when Lord Buckley was gone, they used scat Man 303 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:25.039 Caruthers to replace him. Oh wow. Yeah, he was a cool dude, 304 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:29.000 I know, and all that beautiful stuff. It's so rich and so 305 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:33.640 magnificent. That's we don't have any of that anymore except for you, thank 306 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.240 god. Really was lady and gentlemen round of about what I know about him. 307 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:41.400 Oh man, that's fun stuff remembering all these names from New York. 308 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:48.519 Um, Jutton bird thought, mute Chucker, Oh yeah, remember him, 309 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.519 you know, the devil. And there was a place up and it still 310 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.640 is there, I hope a voicecaster. Oh yeah, in Burbank and there's 311 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:02.319 a wall of everybody's real to reel and it's like at the Smithsonian of voiceovers. 312 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:06.680 Yes, voice actors, unbelievable, no way to play them. Yeah, 313 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:07.519 no where to and no where to play them. Yeah, you know 314 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.480 what I mean. Peter Cullen's up there. Oh, everybody, Well you're 315 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:15.319 there, I'm there. I used to go to the studio on three ninety 316 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:21.640 five Madison or two ninety five Madison called Super Dupe. And in the the 317 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:26.599 the booth where you recorded, there was just a wall of cassette tapes, 318 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.640 you know, in their cases. And I was leaning up against them and 319 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:34.240 I look at my hand and it's filthy black with dust, and I said, 320 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:37.759 they're on my ass to make a demo tape, I said, I'll 321 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.519 just send me over. I'll do a dog and pony show for whoever wants 322 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:45.240 to see me. Look at this. This this speaks volumes like yeah, 323 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:49.920 yeah. And if you did one and you got into it and everything, 324 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:53.920 they would always shoot you down and say that's too long. But I wanted 325 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.880 to show you a way. It's too long, yeah, but you that's 326 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:04.559 all Billy. But I'm not done. No, but I got out. 327 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.519 I think my first one was two and a half minutes long. And then 328 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:12.759 about ten years later, well I was I was working, so I guess 329 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:17.720 it didn't matter. But um, I was told no, that's really long. 330 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:21.400 Yeah, you'd be like forty five seconds, five seconds, I know, 331 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:23.359 but I wouldn't. I wouldn't get anything done on that time. You 332 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.519 know you need more room. Well, I don't know. You know what 333 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.480 you're you're misguided in a way. You think that you're supposed to be all 334 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.160 things to all people with that one little shot. Yeah, like, how 335 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.720 good a copyrter you are? Are you funny? Do you write funny stuff? 336 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:41.000 And it's like it's not about that. They just want to hear the 337 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:45.160 quality and your delivery and then you're off to the races. Yeah, Now, 338 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:49.599 did you have a first demo? I I finally got one when I 339 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:53.960 started working for Jeff Danis. Oh yeah, yeah, Jeff Jeff Damis was 340 00:24:55.079 --> 00:25:00.119 our agent for a while there, and I see amazing and he would say, 341 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:06.440 you need a demo, You have to have a demo. He sort 342 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:10.759 of baby sat me like a mother. Eighties Yeah, well no, nineties, 343 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:12.880 nineties, mid nineties, and uh, well he was right. He 344 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:17.039 used to babysit me kind of like because I was new in town. And 345 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:22.640 he would repeat. He would say, you're going over the waves studio today 346 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:27.759 waves. It's north Hollywood, barely outside of Hollywood, and he said it's 347 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:33.839 on Kwengga Boulevard Waves Studio, you know, because in other words, I 348 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.039 might have been writing when it was delivered like that. And he said, 349 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.079 it's okay to go there during the day. Let's stay out of that part 350 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.200 of town at night. He was warning me. He was right, he 351 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.559 now, let's stay out of that part of town. Yeah, just just 352 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:56.000 everywhere. Yeah, stay out of everywhere. Yeah, that's very true unless 353 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:00.519 you really like, you know, cardboard backs, condos, Yeah, refrigerator 354 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.920 boxes, people living in refrigerator boxes. I kind of liked it in Studio 355 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:10.640 City and I, um, the studios right there. Yeah, but the 356 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:15.640 neighborhoods started to change. There was like first it starts with the mail theft, 357 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.519 your your box, getting all your mail just grabbed. And well, 358 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.160 plus Tom Kenney moved in. Yeah I know, you got that's you gotta 359 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.640 go by. Neighborhoods and him were like the Hatfields and McCoy's. Yeah. 360 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:34.519 Tom Kenny is the funniest. Oh, such a refreshing breath of fresh air. 361 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.759 When I first got a load of him, I said, look at 362 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:42.839 you yeah yeah, yeah, well he's one of those guys. Yeah, 363 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:47.839 but yeah, that was that was crazy. Going over to the voicecaster, 364 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:52.720 then Lane Craig. We had all these places, these voicecasting places that are 365 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.119 just no more. Oh was that guy? Don't think he used to eat 366 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.200 while he was talking to even smoke all the time. His name was Stu. 367 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:07.319 Oh yeah, Rosen, I can't remember. Yeah, he bothered me. 368 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:14.400 I didn't like him, so I had every audition for him. But 369 00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:19.759 all these characters, Yeah, I like what you do and he beat Yeah, 370 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.119 they're smoking, like, leave me alone. I never smoked a cigarette 371 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.039 in my life. I did everything else, but not that. Wow me 372 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.599 too. Yeah, yeah, I have every cigarette I've ever smoked right there. 373 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.519 I've never mainlined heroin. Yeah, I know I can draw the line 374 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.240 somewhere. But I did mainline cocaine. Yeah, but like a nut in 375 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.960 the eighties, and I wound up with Hapatitus. Oh yeah, I had 376 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:47.200 serious problems. Oh yeah, it was a bad boy. We've talked a 377 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:52.400 little bit about this, but it's inspirational to people that are struggling with any 378 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.559 kind of addiction. I mean, there's more trouble to get into nowadays. 379 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:59.160 It's like there's a basket of Robbins. I was in a band, you 380 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.200 know, we share that experience. You played with lots of people. You 381 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.960 were primarily right. You ever lay out front and just be the singer. 382 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.359 Yeah, yeah, that's right. Two bands and uh and I was a 383 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.839 guitar player and a singer, and it's just part and parcel. In the 384 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.000 eighties, it was just part of the deal that you just got blopping drunk 385 00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.559 because because it was like depressing, you were only gonna make sixteen bucks a 386 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:30.519 piece at a VFW hall, and it was money for Chinese. I didn't 387 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.200 have that kind of grief. Well, you had money for Chinese food, 388 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:40.279 and so so I um, I just said, Jesus is awful. And 389 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.400 me and my buddy would caucus in between breaks and we just try to suck 390 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.680 down as much BlackBerry brandy and other kinds of crap. And I liked it 391 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:53.839 because suddenly I I didn't have the kind of problems that always plagued me, 392 00:28:55.559 --> 00:29:00.359 which was depression. I was born with chronic low level depression. And there's 393 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.759 no way you can know that when you were a kid, I just thought 394 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.160 everything was upside down. Just thought you were Irish. Yeah right, you 395 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:11.119 know I know this one. Irish are right. I have a dual citizenship 396 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.720 to Ireland. Welcome to the Divil. Yeah, that's a chapter. And 397 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.079 it wasn't walked, and it wasn't water. No. He said, you'd 398 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:22.839 better meet him now because you're gonna meet him later on. And I said, 399 00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:26.920 meet the Divil, okay, And he was right though, the old 400 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:32.400 bastard was right. Yeah. And um, the drug of Irish poets your 401 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.880 birthright, the muse. That's Madam Bottle. Oh my god. Yeah, 402 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:42.160 so true. And so I had a real tussle with that stuff. And 403 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:47.680 then somebody said, hey, man, you want to do some cocaine. 404 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:49.839 And I said, I don't know about that stuff, you know. I 405 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:53.759 mean, I was but I but I was a blooming garbage head. Eventually, 406 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.480 I just take anything anybody put in front of me and take this. 407 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:02.559 You look like a party guy, yeah. And so I would do coke 408 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.799 and just get drunken. I'd be so messed up. And I wound up 409 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:11.079 crashing a car doing like ninety miles an hour, and I fell asleep on 410 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.000 the mass Pike and what woke me up was the sound of the car going 411 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.000 through the guard rail and it flipped upside down on the other side of the 412 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.119 mass Pike. I don't get your attention, wheels going, you know, 413 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.319 and the crap. It was right in front of the Western State Police barracks. 414 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.799 It was like I delivered myself to them. You know. It's like 415 00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:33.519 a perfect the scream for help help. Oh man. Yeah. Someone said 416 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.160 that's a great way to scrape bird shit off your roof. Yeah yeah, 417 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:42.160 well that too. But um but I my point being is that there's people 418 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.559 that struggle and I don't have to go into a whole sort of tail. 419 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:51.119 Yeah. But uh but I chased it down stupidly, and I was lucky 420 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:56.880 to have lived through it. Me and five other chuckleheads once went to Peru, 421 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.319 Thelema we were gonna have. We had this brilliant idea, Hey, 422 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.640 why don't we go where they make the ship? Oh oh that kind of 423 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:11.440 Peru. I was thinking, Okay, not Machu Picchu. Well I think 424 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:17.799 that right, um. And so we we went down there, and and 425 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.920 I was so smashed on the way down that I some guy reclined. I 426 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:26.079 mean I started chicken and boating and making a scene. Now they'll just tie 427 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.079 you up and duct tape. Ye. But I promised I'd be a good 428 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.160 boy and I would switch it on and off. I would be the black 429 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:40.039 devil one minute and then I'd be like cherubic angelic, and so they they 430 00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:45.559 they were gonna dump me in Orlando. On the way Peru, it said, 431 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:49.599 you did Disney World as punishment? Yeah, um so, I, 432 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:52.960 you know, was there with my friends and it was like one big long 433 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.599 day. I was as high as a rat the whole time. It really 434 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.200 was, And and everything like whatever you looked at it looked like a super 435 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:05.960 eight of woodstock, you know, like too much exposure, too much everything, 436 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:07.519 and the colors are sort of bleeding, and it was like, oh 437 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:13.640 jeez, and we got in all kinds of trouble. We were with gangsters 438 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:19.799 and you know, I'm pounding around like I just took everything so nonchalantly. 439 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:24.079 And these guys were like Carlos and Lara by their names were, and it 440 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:30.759 struck me funny. It just for some reason it reminded me of Jack Benny. 441 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:37.839 Oh Carlos Olaraby, and these two guys had no idea who Jack Benny 442 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.160 was. But if you commit to it a good bit, it's a good 443 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:44.519 bit. Oh man, Yeah, Diane laughing, They wrote, Oh Carlos, 444 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.200 and they were in they were saying, you know, me and me 445 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.759 go no paranoia, you know, do some coke with them, and one 446 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:58.720 guy bullet scars, and you'd think that would have phase tip off a little 447 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.759 bit. It was just like a dummy, a drug fueled robot. Yeah, 448 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.119 But luckily I pulled out of the nose dive, you know a few 449 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:10.279 years later, and I went to rehab in Belmont, Massachusetts. And I 450 00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:15.440 know you're not supposed to tell tales out of school, but Steven Tyler was 451 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.240 there when I was there. Rick James was there when I was there. 452 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.079 Yeah, the heavy hitters, Yeah, Rick James, he's probably still there 453 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:30.519 in spirit, in spirit in four point spiritual restriction. Man, oh jeez, 454 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:37.319 a four point see only Billy would know. Yeah, the straight Yeah, 455 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:38.880 you go out of your mind. You're you're tighting your own tongue. 456 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:43.559 And they say you're gonna calm down, bud, No, I won't. 457 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:50.000 No, yeah, right, okay, maybe yeah, give up cave. 458 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.559 You're rolling around on the floor, yep. But are am I saying too 459 00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.880 much stuff? No? Hey? Who cares? I mean, do you 460 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.680 think no one wants to hit a life life? Yeah? And I and 461 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:06.920 I don't think anybody wants to know how great your life is going? Yeah, 462 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.760 yeah, Hey, I'm paste waxing this marvelous old packard out in front 463 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:15.920 of my house this morning. Yeah. Yeah, you know you too. 464 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.400 I did that too. What a coincidence? Yeah, this marvelous old packard. 465 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.599 Yeah, and uh so. But I mean, no one wants to 466 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.039 hear about how great you're doing. I think it's more interesting to know that 467 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.920 you were teetering. Yeah, no, that you made it through that damn 468 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.320 talk. Yes, oh yeah, yeah, because everybody has him yep. 469 00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.719 You know, boy, I know, I sure have trials and tribulations that 470 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.320 that makes us what and who we are. Yep. I'd be scared nowadays. 471 00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:49.400 Yeah, I mean like, oh yeah, yeah, fentonel And how 472 00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.400 do you know if you're even getting it somebody? Yeah, come by and 473 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.719 go into your coffee. Yeah, Hey, I don't feel so good. 474 00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:01.280 Yeah, all of a sudden, you gave me this coffee, didn't Yeah, 475 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.599 good night, everybody. Brendan has a question for you, guys. 476 00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.000 Okay, I was just wondering, Billy, who was it that helped you 477 00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:12.239 realize you were on the wrong path and you know, help stee you in 478 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.000 the right direction. Is there anyone in particular that you may want to give 479 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:21.039 a mention to UM. I guess it was the combined efforts of them, 480 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.880 the counselors at a place called Appleton House. It was in Belmont. It 481 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:31.159 was basically a nuthouse, but they they took care of people that you know, 482 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.039 you had to go in and they give you a lithium and you hadn't 483 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:39.559 slept. Being passed out is not sleep. You could spend years just passing 484 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.360 out and having never slept, do you know what I mean? You're just 485 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:50.119 like a walking dead. And so I had my first real night's sleep and 486 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.719 they had great food, and I said, you know, welcome back to 487 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.159 life. I was like going, why can't I just stay like this? 488 00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.519 Why it was the depression that was driving me. But you know, like 489 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:04.960 I said, it's a combined effort of people that gave you advice and everything. 490 00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.760 I spoke to a rabbi once on you know, you could talk to 491 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:15.280 different people, and on that little campus where I was, and the rabbi 492 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.199 I came in and I said, you know, I don't know the route 493 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:20.719 of my problem. I just know that I had a real hard time with 494 00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.840 my old man. And I said, you know something, it dawned on 495 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:29.480 me. I hate him I think I hate him, And the guy wisely 496 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.840 looked at me and said, did it never occurred to you that he may 497 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:37.519 have hated you? And I said, no, it didn't. And it 498 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.000 sort of made sense suddenly that this guy wasn't ready to have a son. 499 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:49.400 He was a perennial team and he never stopped being eighteen oh and he was 500 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:54.280 he had psychosis and his mother fed him up. So it's like there's this 501 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:59.679 mental weird illness on both sides of the family, but alcohol sure brought it 502 00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:05.519 out. Yeah, the Irish side and the German side, and um yeah. 503 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:10.920 It was going to Ireland that made me realize what would being Irish was. 504 00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.320 It's not like I'm going to How can I go to Ireland and not 505 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.199 visit a pub? Yeah? How how was that? What you? Well? 506 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:24.159 This was like this was not that long ago. I got Irish citizenship. 507 00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:30.000 My grandmother was born there and so Ireland made overtures to anybody who had 508 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:36.639 lineage, and my grandmother was born there in nineteen oh four. I should 509 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.199 have done that. You can still do it. I have a certificate of 510 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.559 citizenship. Need a reason I couldn't, Well, you might either a year 511 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.639 or two. I don't know what's going to happen around these parts. But 512 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.440 um, but anyway, I go over there, and I got to go 513 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:58.719 to this hall of records in a town called ross Common. And this guy's 514 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:02.360 driving me and he's giving me a little rundown on what Dublin was about. 515 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.039 You see this river here when I go, yeah, that's the Dublin River 516 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:09.360 and it splits the city right in half. I said, don't tell me 517 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:12.880 both sides are at war with each other. And he goes, no, 518 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.599 no, no, something like that. Yeah, but he said, the 519 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:21.320 Vikings came here and they came right up this river. And he he's there's 520 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.719 a corner, a corner where with like you know, a shop and road 521 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.960 signs, and he goes, and they got out right there, you know 522 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.920 ship. Oh yeah, let's get the Irish. Um. So, you 523 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.000 know, little tales like that were interesting. And he said, what brings 524 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.400 you here? And I said, well, I'm a citizen now I got 525 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.199 dual citizenship. He said, welcome home. I said, um, you 526 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.800 know, I'm I'm I'm thrilled. I'm just gonna see what's going on and 527 00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.280 I want to walk around Dublin. And he said, well, there's one 528 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:57.159 thing you gotta know you before you get it. You gotta have the sweater. 529 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.320 Yeah, you gotta have Irish coffee. You don't have to have booze 530 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.199 in it. We don't. We don't ever run like that anymore. Otherwise 531 00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:08.880 I wouldn't have a me job, you know. So he said, well, 532 00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:13.480 the first thing you should know is that the Irish Army is the only 533 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.559 army in the world that takes a lunch break. And I said, really, 534 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:21.199 he goes, so don't go attack on us between one and two in 535 00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:25.920 the afternoon. Ask you love that, lord, I love it. I 536 00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:31.519 used to have those. Yes, oh my ashes, Billy Connolly, boh 537 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:36.679 yeah, oh god, yeah, that's good stuff. Yep, Billy. 538 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.400 Can I ask who are some of your favorite comedians? My favorite comedians? 539 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:46.199 That's interesting question. Um. The first televised image I ever remember seeing was 540 00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:50.559 in the nineteen fifties. My mom let me stay up and watch your Show 541 00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:55.519 of Shows, which was um sid Caesar. He was a great performer. 542 00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:01.920 He was just like a dynamo doing dialects and um, you know, he 543 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.480 could act. He was our Steve Allen show or your Show of Shows. 544 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:15.480 It was your Show of Shows. Had Carl Reiner, Howard Morris, Imogene 545 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:21.639 Coca, and then later a woman named Nanette Fabrey. But Sid Caesar was 546 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.440 doing amazing stuff. And then I read his book that he was a mess 547 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:30.519 the whole time. They'd get out of that theater and it was like doing 548 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:36.679 a Broadway play every week with no que cards. They had to put on 549 00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.400 a ninety minute show minutes like every Saturday night, and you had to go 550 00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:45.360 off the air right when it was cut off time of the sketch. Yeah, 551 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.599 yeah, snippet. So um, I do remember seeing that tons of 552 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:53.440 pressure. But I was enamored with what this guy was doing and he really 553 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:59.920 lit the fuse for me. Um, long story short, um Jonathan Winter 554 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:04.559 after him when I got a load of that comedian Jonathan Winners, who used 555 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:08.239 to do noises and voices and come up personalities, used to pull him out 556 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:14.079 of his rear end and he never had material per se. He would you 557 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:15.360 could just go, oh yeah, you could just look at him and go 558 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:21.960 expecting bad weather, admiral you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, you 559 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.679 know yeah. I did a lot of shows with him, and uh he 560 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:29.360 was on the Adams Family and I was lurch because I'm so tall and uh, 561 00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.679 and Rip Taylor was uncle Fester. Oh wow, And I always I 562 00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.559 got him right over there. I was gonna go grab him, but I 563 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.519 thought, no, I'll be tempted, and I'll start annoying people with trump 564 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:42.679 sticks because you know I always bring drumsticks. I don't know why, ye 565 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.119 And uh. And so I was there and Rip Taylor says, handed him 566 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:50.199 a stick, just one. And I said, oh, okay, here, 567 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.000 Jonathan, here's a stick. And he goes, oh, ka, 568 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:58.639 must get two foot, must born corporal. You know, I think he 569 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:04.960 was wait, what's that? Don't god? I got him here, put 570 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:08.239 this away, you know. Um. He was beautiful. He was so 571 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:13.320 beautiful. He was willing to just you know. He took us on a 572 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.719 tour of his house because we did a movie. I did a movie with 573 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.840 Mark Hamill, Jess Harnell and Tom Kenney and a lot of voice people were 574 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.719 in. You're in the tail end of it, and um, we got 575 00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:28.559 to go out to Jonathan Winner's house in Montecito. Oh boy, that was 576 00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.559 We're going to film a segment in there. And uh and I played this 577 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:37.119 this kind of shlub guy who works in a factory. And and it turns 578 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:45.400 out that my uncle created my great uncle created two famous superhero characters. So 579 00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.960 all of a sudden, I'm thrown into this comic book world. And and 580 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:55.760 Mark plays this impresario named Don Swan Yes, Donald Yes, And um so 581 00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:59.719 here here I am in the living room and the cameras a role in. 582 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:05.159 Jonathan Winners and Sid Caesar my two absolute heroes. And I was like, 583 00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:09.559 you know that talking Head song, and you met find yourself shooting next to 584 00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:15.920 Johnathan Winners. My god, how do I work this? Yeah? Yeah, 585 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:20.000 you know, and um you ask yourself, You ask yourself, what 586 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.719 am I doing here? Yeah? What am I doing? Next? Caesar? 587 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:29.239 Yeah? Jonathan Winners? So um so they we were, you know, 588 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.320 we just got it off out of nowhere. They started in and they 589 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:36.119 said, I don't even know. We were young guys, and you know 590 00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.599 we were at war. War was hell, and he was he was waxing 591 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:45.280 poetic about the war. And he said, when they told you to fire 592 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:46.840 a torpedo, you got a fire torpedo, or if you didn't have one, 593 00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.639 you went out that shoot, and and you know, just crazy stuff. 594 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:57.440 And Sid Caesar's doing German. He's yelling in German like a German boat. 595 00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.400 You boat commander, And I said, look, look, this stuff 596 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.679 is all great and everything, but you guys got to get out of the 597 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.480 way, you know. I mean, I have a right to my grant, 598 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.880 my grandfather's um, you know, creations. I don't care that he 599 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.000 created it while you guys were around. No, he didn't create anything. 600 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.960 We were the ones that wrote it. And I said, oh, it's 601 00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.159 fine. Well, you know what, it don't matter because now is now 602 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.920 and I'm here, I am trying to improvise with the two greatest guys that 603 00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.480 wrote the book. Yeah, and I just said, I'm gonna cut this 604 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.920 short. And I just went, so, here's my advice to both you. 605 00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:37.119 You better just roll out of the way because the circus is coming to 606 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.000 town. Whoa, that's out of good. So that's pretty good. So 607 00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:44.679 Jonathan Winners goes, I W I went too, you're gonna be rolling out 608 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.960 of the way. La la, he's out of his mind. Yeah, 609 00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:52.960 he's an idiot. You're an idiot. Yeah, just ripping me up. 610 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.519 Yeah, God, that's so nice to say, though, Oh yeah it 611 00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.079 was. It was. I was totally dissed by Jonathan and Winners. Oh 612 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.320 good night, everybody. Sorry to hear that. Yeah, yeah, that's 613 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:09.320 great. Those guys had serious problems too. Sid was raging alcoholic when they 614 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:15.599 used to leave that Admiral Theater on the end of Saturday night and they're wrapping 615 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:23.599 up everything and they'd go to Umning Tout Shores or oh yeah, that's that's 616 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:30.199 the Watering Hall of Broadway. Yeah and um or they go to Leo Lindy's. 617 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.639 It was an eatery that was open all night long and they had cheesecake. 618 00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:37.199 But they were famous for their food. And Carl Reiner and Sid Caesar 619 00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:44.599 and Howard Morris and uh Mel Tolkien and Larry Gelbard, Woody Allen and Mel 620 00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.440 Brooks, they all go to eat and Sid, right in the middle of 621 00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:52.360 eating this dinner would just go down in his plate. Oh wow. And 622 00:45:52.480 --> 00:46:00.920 it was the other expression probably know what I mean. They they said that 623 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:05.840 they couldn't like let people see that because he was the biggest star in television 624 00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:08.079 back then. Yeah, he had a phone in his car in nineteen fifty 625 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:12.159 two. He told me he had a phone. It was on the police 626 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.039 band. We had. We had a car, but not a phone in 627 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:22.320 nineteen fifty two, right, So that's so wow. So he went facedown 628 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.320 and they decided to turn it into a bit you know, like trying to 629 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.239 talk to him and everybody riffing and that because they wanted to keep it out 630 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.079 of the papers. Oh wow. Yeah. It was just things were really 631 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.559 different, man. It was like, if something like that came out, 632 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.960 you'd get the network. Now, they'd make t shirts. Yeah, now 633 00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.400 it would. Yeah, you could run for president after you fell in your 634 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.840 plate of food. Yeah, good man. Yeah, try the veal. 635 00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:58.280 Oh god, that's painful. Uh, heroes. Here at the full figure 636 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.719 discat network. We produced it twenty hours of podcasts each month, covering the 637 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:07.159 greatest shows of the nineties, including The Simpsons, South Park, King of 638 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.639 the Hill, Syfeld Friends, Futurama, and so much more. So. 639 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:14.159 If you're in the mood for a good old dose in nostalgia in your ears 640 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.679 each week, check out all the shows available right now on the fourth finger. 641 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:23.920 Discount Network Links earned a description of this podcast. Okay, so that 642 00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:27.760 was back in New York. He were obviously, you know, I'm Beanie 643 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.960 Cecil. But with the first big cartoon that you did, hear what came 644 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:36.920 first rented? Stimpy Rent and Stimpy came up after Beanie and Cecil because I 645 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.400 hadn't moved to New York yet and my friend Andy Paley, a musician that 646 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:46.639 I came up with in Boston. He met the Clampett family and the mother, 647 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:54.159 the wife Bob Clampet's wife, Soldy, and his daughter and his son. 648 00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:58.760 They were going to revive the show, so which I was a part 649 00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.280 of. But that's how I met John Chris Feluci. He was an animator 650 00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:07.199 on Beanie and Cecil, and you know, it got a load of him 651 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.239 and it was like the show went for five or six episodes and then the 652 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:15.519 plug got pulled, you know, and I said, well, so there's 653 00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.719 my big career. You know, I don't know what to do now. 654 00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:24.079 And it turned out to be John K's calling card. You know. It's 655 00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:30.239 like six episodes in and like getting a laser sight boom, blow off my 656 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:35.360 own foot. He was self destructive. Wow, I mean just and um 657 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.800 you know, so he got fired from Renn and Stimpy. But but that's 658 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.639 how I got that job, as he created that show with a few of 659 00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:47.519 his cohorts him. We did four seasons and and uh the first two seasons 660 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:53.119 were him doing wren when I was doing Stimpson. Jay kat which is coming 661 00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:59.679 back. Yeah, yeah, they're bringing it back. Plus. Wow, 662 00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.239 that's cool. Yeah, kitching, let's do it. You ought to come 663 00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.320 by there and show them your wares. Yeah, show my wife. Oh, 664 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:12.599 I see what you mean your underwear. But serially, okay, I 665 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.280 don't know. I mean, I just um, do you know Deborah Wilson, 666 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.639 she's a new but she's not that new. She's she's older, but 667 00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:30.599 she is a killer. There's Wally Wally. She's Karen on a TV show 668 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:36.280 in the sixties. Probably she's a girl. She's a dream. She's an 669 00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:44.280 ever loving teen and Karen is her name. Um. She she she sets 670 00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:49.920 her hair with great precision. It's her favorite indoor sport. And by the 671 00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:57.920 light of television, she can't even do a book report was the Beach Boys. 672 00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.679 Oh wow, that's amazing. I almost remember that. We probably didn't 673 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:06.480 get that station. I don't know that. We had rabbit ears. Well 674 00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:10.760 I had those with with aluminum foil on luminum foil. Yeah, we're nutty. 675 00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:19.000 We thought we could just get good TV reception by a little It worked 676 00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:23.000 a little bit, but nothing was hooked up. Everything was like you you 677 00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:28.239 were getting your signal from a local station. And that they didn't have a 678 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:34.280 big signal. You were looking at basically pixels, Yeah, protons. Yeah. 679 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.880 WFMJ was good. When I was at my grandmother's house. Where were 680 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.440 you on in Ohio? Youngstown? We had three stations. So you're a 681 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:46.039 Midwestern boy and I am too. I was wanted Detroit. Yeah. Yeah, 682 00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:51.079 it's really good to be from Youngstown because you have to leave in order 683 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:55.119 to be from there. Hey, you know I did that everywhere. Yeah, 684 00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:59.880 that's true with everywhere. Yeah, um, I Detroit is no more. 685 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.119 I mean there's not much, not much left to it. Did you 686 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:08.440 ever do a convention there? Motor City? Oh yeah, maybe a long 687 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:13.880 time, long time ago. That's where there's only the only life left that 688 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:17.880 skyscrapers are empty. But you know something though, every city kind of followed 689 00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:24.440 suit to this day because of COVID and people weren't going to work. And 690 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:29.679 then I wish I had invested in Zoom at that time. Oh yeah, 691 00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:35.239 what you said. So skyscrapers and office buildings are basically knowing in them, 692 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.920 and there's all this real estate, so they're gonna have to turn it into 693 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:42.480 housing, you know, for apartments or dwellings or condos, they're gonna have 694 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:46.760 to because all these edifices, you know, and it's like, whoa, 695 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:52.639 you wouldn't want to be stuck with that rent no owning that that'd be good. 696 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:57.400 Well turn it into homeless shelters for people who are homeless, will make 697 00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:01.559 lots of money. No, no, no, no with me. I 698 00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:06.480 know this is this is my landlord. You buck or I'll touch you. 699 00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.199 I know that. Dude. I can't believe we both rented from him. 700 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.280 That's guys. How amazing is it that these shows that you know, you 701 00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.840 worked on twenty five thirty years ago, I've just now been rebooted and you've 702 00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.079 got a new lease on life. You know, it's almost lucky. Careers 703 00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:30.840 have a new resurgence. It's it's it's crazy, and Futurama is bad after 704 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.480 yeah, look at that. After that. So it's like I was ready 705 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.920 to retire. I cashed in my social Security and my pensions and everything. 706 00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.480 Well you do that still work? Yeah, that's what I did. Well, 707 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.840 I know, but I didn't really know that. And then I said, 708 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:45.880 you know what, that's what I'm gonna do because I don't know which 709 00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:52.719 sea suckers in Congress are gonna go after my uh social security right now, 710 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:55.400 I said, I'm not gonna what. They lick their chops over stuff, 711 00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:01.039 so um yeah, so rent and stimpy, I said, okay, And 712 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:05.639 I'm screaming and yelling like thirty one years ago and I can still kind of 713 00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:07.199 do it, you know, but it's the recovery time is a little longer, 714 00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:12.559 yeah, because you're just flat out screaming. And I said, you 715 00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:15.679 better keep a paramedic in the lobby because I'm seventy one. Now. Yeah, 716 00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:21.239 I was, you know, calling people an idiot. Yeah, really, 717 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:30.239 I shall kill you. It was crazy. Yes, that's good. 718 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:37.199 Yeah, both love you. It was like the best of Peter Laurie. 719 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:43.239 Uh yeah. And Wren was a Chihuahua, so sometimes he sounded south of 720 00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.920 the border, yes, and then many didn't. It was an amalgam of 721 00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:52.639 actual It was like Kirk Douglas, you know, criminals. Yeah, it 722 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.400 was like lots of stuff all rolled into one. Uh huh, and it's 723 00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:00.280 uh, well, those the best characters. Yeah. Yeah. John gave 724 00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:05.440 me a tape originally of all these different guys. Burrol lives, shoot, 725 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:13.079 that's Julia. Shoot. But you wouldn't believe me living de blul that's all 726 00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.239 I can remember. Well, he was. He was intense. He was 727 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.280 a cat on a hot tin roof. I think he's a big daddy, 728 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:24.000 like a circus act. He was intense. But seriously, wait a minute, 729 00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:27.880 that's a circus term. Yeah, I think so, what is it? 730 00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:30.440 Wait? Tense? He was like a circus act. Okay, was 731 00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:37.599 intense. But I'll be right with everybody. I'll be back in a moment, 732 00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:42.679 back in Burbank, California, the moos and squirrel on the corner of 733 00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:47.320 Pico and Sepulvida where nobody's dream comes true. That's right, seple Vida, 734 00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:52.320 seple vida in Las Sianaga. When I first came here, I said, 735 00:54:52.719 --> 00:55:01.519 even, I know what that means. That means the Sienaga. That's true. 736 00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:09.159 Yeah, oh yeah, but he doesn't like boys. No, I 737 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:14.880 get used to it. Oh man, they're okay now that we've ruined everything, 738 00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:20.480 we've ruined everything. Yeah. But but from from there you did four 739 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:22.039 seasons. I thought it was like two. No, it was four. 740 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.519 That's pretty good. Yeah, it was pretty good. And now how many 741 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:29.000 have you been picked up for? Now? I think we're doing twenty episodes. 742 00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.079 Wow, So who knows if they're going to continue it. It would 743 00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:37.559 be nice if they did, but I gotta I'm seeing a voice specialist. 744 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.599 A while back. Jess used to go to this guy named Gary Katona who 745 00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:45.239 was a voice builder. You know when rock groups came to town and the 746 00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:50.159 lead singer was like meat, Oh yeah, he could get a voice out 747 00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.119 of him by doing a few of these exercises. Because you're you exercise. 748 00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.679 I never knew much about what was going on. I'm gone to one or 749 00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.000 two of those over the years, but I didn't. I never cared. 750 00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:01.440 I had magical thinking. I just said, you know, I don't know 751 00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:07.400 what I'm doing so and it working, so what do I care. And 752 00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:14.440 if you don't exercise the muscles around your throat um, they don't usually get 753 00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:17.239 a lot of exercise. So there's certain exercises you can do. But it 754 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:22.280 protects the throat against you know, battle fatigue, arm slought, you know. 755 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.000 And you know what I do. I used to do. I would 756 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:30.280 get one of these, see it's a little bottle of water and get three 757 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:35.480 Ricola cough drops, yeah, and put them in there and then just slowly 758 00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:38.239 drink them throughout the session and it would get warm. It wasn't hot, 759 00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:44.320 it wasn't cold room temperature, and I would just slowly drink, do a 760 00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:51.280 little gargle, swallow and saltwater. The reason i'm sort of I'm smirking is 761 00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:55.239 because you didn't give me that advice once I did, But Nope. Regarding 762 00:56:55.239 --> 00:57:01.440 a particular fellow, oh who came to town once, he fancied himself a 763 00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:06.880 voice guy. Oh, and um, I know you're gonna say. And 764 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.760 this guy was new and he said, so you do ran and stumpy, 765 00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.440 I go, yeah, how did that go? And I said, well, 766 00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:16.800 it's really rough and you know, no, no, no, no, 767 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.039 how did that go? He wanted me to show it. In other 768 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.760 words, he wanted to steal my soul. Yeah, and he did this 769 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:27.800 to me in front and B J. Ward was there and it was a 770 00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.800 scoopy. I've got a poster here somewhere, Zombie Island. Zombie Island, 771 00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:36.480 and uh, there's a man named Frank Walker who is like he might as 772 00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:40.480 well have his own, you know, a monument daddy. He's he's it. 773 00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.360 Everybody loves Frank Walker. Not only is it the most talented guy, 774 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.400 he's been around forever. He was in an Elvis movie Yep, you heard 775 00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:51.920 me. Yep. He was in an Elvis movie. Damn it. He 776 00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:54.800 has controlled terrible movie, but he was great and he was in it. 777 00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:58.880 Yep on camera. I don't know if I'm getting through to you. He 778 00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:00.480 was in an Elvis movie. Mess with him, all right, you don't 779 00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:05.199 mess with him. And we love this guy and he can he has control 780 00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:08.039 over every chamber in his body. Yeah, to make sounds and noises. 781 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:13.760 Yeah, I mean it's uncanny. And he was Coujo uh the movie Coujoe. 782 00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.440 Yeah, he was Coo. Or anytime a dog comes walking into a 783 00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:22.079 scene and decides to act real friendly and make friendly noises, that's he made 784 00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:24.239 the sounds of them. Yes, he was the dog. He was Coujo. 785 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:30.519 Yeah. And every time any given monster you wanted to hear any Let's 786 00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.320 say, okay, you say to Frank, your casting director, Frank, 787 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:42.400 we need a Martian dinosaur. Frank would say what side of town see exactly, 788 00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:44.960 and he'd give you that. Dude. You go, oh my god, 789 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.119 that's that's. I mean. We know a couple of little tricks here 790 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:50.599 and there, like you know, the old guys in the thirties would to 791 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:54.199 do a bear. But this never run. Oh yeah, that was Frank 792 00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:59.440 could just like it would come roaring up from the depths. Oh yeah, 793 00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:01.760 Dante in front of Yeah, we're talking the other day. The first time 794 00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:05.800 I ever met him, it was at Hannah Barbara and it was a Scooby 795 00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:07.239 Doo. It was just a you know, and I was a you know, 796 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:14.679 grimy Man number three or something, you know, or baggage. No, 797 00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:16.719 no, it was just this regular old stupid cartoon, you know, 798 00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:22.960 fourteen minute quarter. And um, and I'm sitting here and Rob Paulson's here, 799 00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:24.880 and bj Ward's there, and we're also there's Frank. Frank was like 800 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:29.920 five feet in front of me, and um, and then Andrea Romana was 801 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:34.559 the director, and she goes and and then um, and then the lion 802 00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:37.440 the tiger jumped down out of the tree and roared and you hear this, 803 00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:47.960 and and I just froze and I felt the tiger, and I I peed 804 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.440 a little bit. Okay, fine, fine, are you happy I'm minting. 805 00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:57.119 I'm admitting that a bad man. I pete a little bit because it 806 00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:00.559 was a god damn tiger in the room. And and then I look up 807 01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:05.599 and it was only Frank. I stopped peeing. So that was good, 808 01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.119 you know, and I realized that and then he's turned. It turns out 809 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:13.480 he's the nicest guy you can imagine. And here's this suck butt sitting up 810 01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:16.360 there going well, you know, And it was the it was the first 811 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:20.119 I don't know, I think it was the first Scooby doing maybe twenty or 812 01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:23.039 fifty years or something. Twenty years was made for home release. Yeah, 813 01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:28.840 I made for home videos, and you played like Cajun yeah necks and yeah, 814 01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:31.320 yeah, yeah, looking for treasure and wanted to kill people, wanted 815 01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:35.360 to kill people and um and I ended up wanting to kill that dude. 816 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:38.679 And I was doing Shaggy and so they hired him to Scooby Doo, and 817 01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:43.400 um, here he was lobbying for everybody's job. You know. He was 818 01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:46.920 like touretting out voices during the breaks and yeah, and um, well I 819 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:51.760 don't I won't get that far into the story. But anyway, he wanted 820 01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:55.000 to know like where you stood. Oh yeah, you know, like is 821 01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:00.079 he happening with this with Disney? And you know, because he wanted to 822 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.599 do Winnie the Pooh oh and um and so by the way, so I 823 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.599 get on the horn, you know, and I call my good friend Jim 824 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:12.280 Cummings, and I said, you know, there's this small Yeah, you 825 01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:14.360 know, I don't mind saying it, because I mean, he had a 826 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:20.199 goddamn nerve and there's only one there's in our business. Really, they're really 827 01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.800 a holes are few and far between. Thank all, gentlemen. Every guy 828 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:28.519 I know is a real gentleman. And yeah, thank god. Um but 829 01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:36.440 but except for Rob Paulson. Yeah really jes so fastl wicking, mercurial, 830 01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:39.360 and I don't like that ship those qualities in a person. I hate that, 831 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:43.559 especially if he's competing with me. Now, we're great, He's a 832 01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.119 great guy. No, And the thing is we're not like, you know, 833 01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:51.400 like competitive, we're not athletes like you know, I've got to drive, 834 01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.519 I've got to go one more the distance. No. They walk into 835 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:59.159 a studio full of these brilliant people and you say, I better be on 836 01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.480 my toes today, you know, because everybody is up in the game, 837 01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:06.719 and the same tide raises all boats. If you're with great people, you 838 01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:12.800 just kind of the energy types. So um So, anyway, you said, 839 01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:16.840 well, I'm gonna call him up, or if I run into him'm 840 01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:22.280 gonna give him some advice, because didn't you say something like to you like, 841 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.639 yeah, so how do you Yeah, how's that go? How's that 842 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:29.400 going? I go pretty well, scream into a pillow. Yeah, yeah, 843 01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:32.199 yeah, and yeah. And he asked me how I get that soft 844 01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:37.480 rasp right on Winnie the Pooh's voice, and I said, you don't want 845 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:39.440 to know. I go, no, dude, seriously, I'm I mean, 846 01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:42.639 I'm gonna do it. I want to do you. I mean I 847 01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:46.559 want I'm gonna do tager and I'm gonna sitting right there telling me to my 848 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:52.280 face. And I said, uh, okay, you man. When I 849 01:02:52.320 --> 01:03:00.679 write this down, first to get a pillow. What a pillow? Use 850 01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:02.880 a thick one. Now, you don't want to do it on your way 851 01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:07.440 into the studio. This is all the night before, then a refresher course 852 01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:13.039 at breakfast. Now you get in there and you hold that pillow up and 853 01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:19.519 you take a deep breath and you go, you know, and you just 854 01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:22.719 shred that voice. You mean, at the top of my lungs. Yes, 855 01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:29.320 at the top of your little bitty legs. Okay, and then howl 856 01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:39.559 like a monkey and do your best Tyrannosaurus rex impression backwards Cynosaurus riz and repeat 857 01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:45.039 and and do that for about an hour and a half. CORRECTI band, 858 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:49.880 got it? Oh wait a minute, don't forget your tea with a little 859 01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:55.480 bit of lemon, not too much, and some Belladonna, just some some 860 01:03:55.480 --> 01:04:01.320 some Macure cross yes, and guard and go get him tigger. Yep, 861 01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:05.920 I remember that. You call up mister Disney in the morning and tell him. 862 01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:10.400 I said, you tell him I'm tired. Yeah, you know, 863 01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.320 nerve, Yeah, the nerve. Anyway, there was only one of these 864 01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:15.960 guys, and I'm not gonna tell you his name. It was Scott. 865 01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:23.079 Anyway, Um, I'm done. Oh hi is this are these on? 866 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:28.159 These are on? Aren't they are? Okay? So speakers and listen. 867 01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:33.480 That's a dulcet tones of two guys that have been around the block to the 868 01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:39.480 dulcemer tones a couple of times, been around the block a couple of times. 869 01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:42.320 You know. Yeah, Well just you SiGe, somebody up across from 870 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:44.159 me, and you just play them like a piano, you know what I 871 01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:50.960 mean? That's right, said bones, like a finally toned fiddle. With 872 01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:55.559 the Futurama revival, Billy, they've brought back the original cost but have they 873 01:04:55.559 --> 01:05:00.760 brought back the original Rods as well. Futurama has a lot a lot of 874 01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:05.239 the original writers, but again because of the COVID, everything's on zoom now, 875 01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:10.079 Like I see the writers and I see the director, and it's like 876 01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:15.679 it's like when you watch the Brady Bunch opening squares and there's one person in 877 01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:24.119 every square. I hate the story of a greedy producer. Yeah. Yeah, 878 01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:27.320 there's no reason for it now. I don't think. I don't think 879 01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:30.519 for for like sept if here in California apparently, Well, because when you 880 01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:34.800 travel, nobody else is coviding. No, nope, Um, but you 881 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:41.360 can. You can work from anywhere in what we do, you really can. 882 01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:43.880 I mean I'm sure you have. You brought a set up on the 883 01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:46.599 road with you a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not crazy 884 01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:48.800 about it. I like being in the room with people. I like an 885 01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:54.199 engineer. M yeah, because yeah, because I don't like being the engineer. 886 01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:56.159 No. I don't like to turn it over. No, if I 887 01:05:56.239 --> 01:06:00.599 touch anything, it's a childhood thing. It's like if I mess with anything, 888 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:04.880 I'll render it unusable. You know, I'm lucky that the phone still 889 01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:09.559 works because I had that, you know, the Mighta's Touch of Gold I 890 01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:11.960 had the touch of shit. All I had to do was touch something and 891 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:15.480 to be cracked or broken or yeah. Yeah, it's just I you know, 892 01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:19.760 it's autism. I'm on the autism spectrum. And I can't tie my 893 01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:24.679 shoes. That's why I've got these sandals on. I can't tie a necktie. 894 01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:29.280 But asked me to do a fucking friend dresser impression. That's autism. 895 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:38.000 Yeah, oh my god, there's a reference for you. Yeah, while 896 01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:41.880 we're on the subject of a futurama, you just came from recording today, 897 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:45.920 right, No, No, I was gonna work today, but I but 898 01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:48.400 I was flying in across the country last night and it got to be so 899 01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:54.239 late because there was flights were late, and I said, I don't want 900 01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:57.800 to show up at a gig, you know, if if they can cancel 901 01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:00.039 it in time, which I did, get the word and I lobbed it 902 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.159 in in time, so they could, you know, just rearrange. Yeah, 903 01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:10.000 yeah, I never do that though. I'm like I got immigrant mentality. 904 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:13.519 You know, it's like coming to goddamn work till they tell me don't 905 01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.519 come in anymore. Just said old Irish thing. It's like, you know, 906 01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:19.079 you had a chance to work for eighteen hours a day and you didn't 907 01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:23.960 do it? Yeah, what do you schmuck? You know? Yeah? 908 01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:28.000 Yeah, well I have a I always say I have a blue collar mindset 909 01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:31.559 toward a no coller career, you know, because how many times have I 910 01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:36.079 worked in T shirts? You know? Plenty? Sure, you know, 911 01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:40.920 but that's like, um, a lot of the old guys in New York 912 01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:45.280 were like that. Jackson Beck was running around which Bermuda shorts, Bermuda shorts 913 01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:51.039 and a T shirt and he was in a Woody Allen movie and we're doing 914 01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:56.639 a political commercial and we gotta we gotta get the voice, the voice, 915 01:07:56.679 --> 01:08:00.480 who's the voice? And Jackson Beck comes in and then he's he does his 916 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:05.079 thing. He goes call me when you need me, you know. Yeah, 917 01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:10.960 yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't matter 918 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.760 if it's you know, um, fruit roll ups yeah, or Thompson's water 919 01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:21.000 Seal or Little Caesars, A little Caesars you can get a crazy eight topping 920 01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:26.840 tops. Oh god, let's bringing back memories. I know. It's like 921 01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:30.600 he was so he was so nice to me. That's good. And this 922 01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:34.840 was guy was a living legend. Yeah yeah, not many of those And 923 01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:41.399 now we're like, I see young people and it's like, oh yeah, 924 01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:46.479 I am I venerable? Yeah are you sure? Oh okay, yeah, 925 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.439 you know when it's better than that? What's what? What? Yeah? 926 01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:51.960 You would think? You know. I always like it when you're at a 927 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:58.319 convention and some fifty year old guy walks up and I, way, he's 928 01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.439 older than me, and no, he's not. Nobody's older than me anymore, 929 01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:03.600 you know, and and and then he goes, yeah, you know, 930 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:09.880 I uh, we just had a fiftieth birthday for me. And I'll 931 01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:13.199 tell you what, dark wig duck Man that that's my boy right there, 932 01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:16.239 and we agg I'm in Darkwing duck Cake, and I think, you old 933 01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:20.000 fart, I'm that much older than you, that you you were a child. 934 01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:25.439 Great, and that brings you right down. You're right down to earth, 935 01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:28.600 you know what, right down. Bless these people. I love doing 936 01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:33.039 the intentions. I love talking everybody because most of them kind of are on 937 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:38.199 the spectrum one way or another. And that's that was what geeks were. 938 01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:42.000 I was a geek, you know. I collected comic books and me and 939 01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:45.000 my friend had him and the other the hard guys didn't want to know from 940 01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:46.960 comic books. They will kick your ass. If you were any different, 941 01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:51.319 they'd circle the wagons. And I can't believe I don't have a few sitting 942 01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:56.279 right here anyway, go ahead, So um, so these guys um, 943 01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:00.920 you know, and like if they were conventions back then, I up and 944 01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:04.239 left join the circus. Oh yeah, you know. So so now people 945 01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:09.000 are coming in, and there's voice people that want to do what we do, 946 01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:12.479 and I always tell them we're saving a seat for you, you know, 947 01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:15.520 I just you got to say something encouraging. There's people that come up 948 01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:23.880 with horrible impressions and it doesn't matter because I love these these kids. They 949 01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:27.439 know more about you than you do. Boy, yeah, you're not kidding. 950 01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:31.560 And and so there isn't a narcissist within twenty miles of one of these 951 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:38.199 shows. These people are empaths, they're sensitive. Yeah, and a lot 952 01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:43.880 of them have unbelievable talent. Like I've seen drawings where this kind of unassuming 953 01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:45.880 kid came up and he wasn't sure, you know, he was kind of 954 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.600 looking down and I drew something for you, and I was like what, 955 01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:56.119 Yeah, Yeah, it's really unbelievable. It's it's a it's a blessing. 956 01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.079 Some of these kids. And yeah, there's so many kids that are on 957 01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:04.640 the spectrum. And and it seems, and I've developed this mini philosophy over 958 01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:09.600 the over the years that when if somebody glombs on to one of your voice, 959 01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:12.680 it's it gives them a bit of a life raft, doesn't it. 960 01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:15.399 It's almost it gives them something to hold on to, something to cherish. 961 01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:18.760 It's something. It's a safe place. And that makes me feel crazy. 962 01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:23.640 My safe place is when I started out. Because you're not sure who and 963 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:29.399 what you are, so you you take a couple of prototypes, Like there 964 01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:35.760 were guys like DAWs Butler who did hand a barbar of voices and Don Masska 965 01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:43.279 and if you could do some of those voices that they did, um, 966 01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:46.680 you you had the basis of where to go. You had a vehicle to 967 01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.760 sit in for a while, like a golf cart. Yeah, like quick 968 01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:58.640 Draw mc graw, right, boy, oh quick straw? Yeah yeah. 969 01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:04.239 And that wasn't he my that was but yeah And he was Elroy Jetson Yeah 970 01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:10.239 yeah, um he was Yogi Bear. Yeah. You gotta admit, I'm 971 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:17.119 smarter than the average bat. Yeah yeah, and you yeah, like an 972 01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:21.800 idiot the back of hand um and these guys. So if you could, 973 01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:27.159 you had your little gallery of heroes, that was your fortress that you could 974 01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:29.359 cling to. But then when you got out in the real world, you 975 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:31.760 realize, no one's gonna hire you to do Yogi Bear, no one, 976 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:35.319 no one wants. You know, if your plumber number six, you can't 977 01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:40.800 make them sound like the ranger from Jellystone Park. Yeah, you had to 978 01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:45.960 do variations of stuff that you felt like, you said a life raft. 979 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.720 Stuff that that sang to you, meant something to you, and you say, 980 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:53.119 I want to just bring something to the table. I got that immediately. 981 01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:57.520 Yeah, you wanted to just bring something to the craft. Yeah, 982 01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:00.680 badly. And now you know when celebrities they stunt cast and they bring in 983 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.279 celebrities. Some of them, some of them are okay, but for the 984 01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:08.000 most part, why are they some of them not? Some of them are 985 01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:13.000 is just so anemic and you don't know how on earth somebody paid somebody twenty 986 01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.319 million dollars to come in there. They're not all Robin Williams no or Eddie 987 01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:21.399 Murphy or Murphy or Chris Rock. Yes, and so um, I always 988 01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:26.560 had a real problem with that. And uh, there's an actor he's not 989 01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:32.319 with us anymore. Tony ja He played Jaffar and he was a very you 990 01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:36.520 know, really very British. Well he wasn't Jaffar, he was Oh who 991 01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:43.479 was he? He was um, oh god Dom Claude Frolough in Hunchback. 992 01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:47.720 Oh right, that was his big complaint that he wasn't a mega hit. 993 01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:53.800 After that, Jaffar was, Oh gosh, I forget a British a British 994 01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:59.560 feather another one, but son foreigner, you know, Tony Jum heard he 995 01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:02.079 read articles where I just went off and I said, I don't get this 996 01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:06.560 celebrity voice thing. I mean, someday these people aren't gonna be famous, 997 01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:12.439 and that you're gonna you're gonna watch something and you're gonna go, who who 998 01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:15.880 who is that Brad Pitt? Who gives a shit? What he sounds like? 999 01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:17.960 Yeah, you know you look at him. Yeah, that's what you 1000 01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:21.079 do. Well he was sin bad, was he? Yeah? I was 1001 01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:25.800 in that Oh okay, and he was yeah, speaking of I mean, 1002 01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:30.720 it's a perfect example because he's just whoa. All right, I'll go I'll 1003 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:33.800 go get you know, if you want me to bring back what was it 1004 01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:40.399 the treasure? All right, I'll go and get the treasure. Brad Pitt, 1005 01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:45.239 Lady Brad Pitt. You know the man voice, the MANI voice, 1006 01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:48.600 But we came up cutting our teeth on, you know, whatever anybody threw 1007 01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:55.920 at you. You want. You wanted to be an objective fulfillment machine. 1008 01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:59.319 You know, like Jimmy said earlier, can you do and ask him all 1009 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:03.560 like you know, falling down a hill and bopping and yeah and yes, 1010 01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:09.720 because because you you want, you wanted to get those you were fighting for 1011 01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:12.399 your life every day was like that. You go out there. Yeah, 1012 01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:15.720 you you can get confident in everything. But I really worried about stuff. 1013 01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:19.079 I used to think long and hard, you know, before I opened my 1014 01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:23.319 mouth, especially on the show like Futurama. Oh no pressure. They've shown 1015 01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:27.439 me photos, pictures of the characters and it's only Matt graining, you know, 1016 01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:29.439 And I was like, oh my god, you know, and I 1017 01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:31.840 went with my guts on all these pictures, which is the best way to 1018 01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:38.840 go? Yeah, the best stinks. I like that, you know, 1019 01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:44.119 but you know, and um, there was this Zoidberg character and he's portly 1020 01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:47.960 and sometimes for laughs you could play against type. You might give him like 1021 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:55.760 a high a ninny voice, but it wasn't. It's he was Zoidberg. 1022 01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:59.560 And I said, well, he's from some Jewish planet or something, you 1023 01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:02.239 know, he's from here, and we're waiting for him, you know that. 1024 01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:06.159 Yes, And he had all this cool meat hanging off his face because 1025 01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:11.159 he was like a crustacean, and and I thought, well, he would 1026 01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:14.720 have he would have some sort of impairment. And the first two guys I 1027 01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:20.000 thought about were George Jessel from Vaudeville, who used to say, you know 1028 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:25.119 the definition of a smartass a fellow like sid on an ice cream calling and 1029 01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:29.960 tell you what flavor it is. And then there was Luji Kolbi from Yiddish 1030 01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:32.720 theater. Oh yeah, leaned into Arthur and said, what's it like? 1031 01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:39.880 All of that money, you know? And so I think there's the two 1032 01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.760 of them. Yeah, and Super collided him. However you want to call 1033 01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:46.800 it that, And that's was Zoidberg. It was a perfect fit. And 1034 01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:53.680 it wasn't like you were imitating anybody in particular. You were you were doing 1035 01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:58.119 alchemy kind of yeah, absolutely, yeah. And they used to hire us, 1036 01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:00.680 you know, producers used to have a lead bar are on the table 1037 01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:01.920 and you'd come in. They say listen, we got a we got a 1038 01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:05.760 problem. We gotta lead bar on the table. Can you turn it to 1039 01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:13.359 gold? Yeah and boom you would do it. Yeah, alchemy because you 1040 01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:15.920 have something has to change. I can't come in and just be Billy West 1041 01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:20.800 and be Billy West all over the place and and then some because no one 1042 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:27.399 cares. But if you do some sort of transfiguring, uh, you know, 1043 01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:33.079 trans trans modern profication, I can something with transcend it. Yeah, 1044 01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:36.439 but it's alchemy. There's where magic comes from. Everybody says, how come 1045 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:42.079 there's no you know, magical voices because celebrities aren't known for magical voices. 1046 01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:46.439 Only a couple. Um, but I'm curious where. I'm curious where fry 1047 01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:49.760 comes from, because fried, to me, sounds pretty close to your Now. 1048 01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:54.039 That was That was me when I was twenty five years old. I 1049 01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:56.199 was on the spot and I said, I gotta come up with like a 1050 01:17:56.279 --> 01:18:00.640 kid, a twenty five year old, And I said, Jesus, and 1051 01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:04.479 I wanted it to smack of truth reality. I didn't want to put on. 1052 01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:10.239 So when I was twenty five, I was all whiny and nasally and 1053 01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:14.880 complaining, not unlike now, except my voice is lower. Um. But 1054 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:16.600 I would, but I'd be like, I'd break a string. Oh shit, 1055 01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:19.720 I broke a string. Now what am I gonna do? You know? 1056 01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:25.760 I was like yeah, yeah, and it's got that in there, 1057 01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:29.319 and it's like, greetings to the year three thousand. It still sucks. 1058 01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:33.159 And that was basically what I sounded like when I was twenty five, and 1059 01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:38.600 so I decided to use that voice for him. And and it just when 1060 01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:44.520 you're telling the truth, you're always um, you always hit a bull's eye 1061 01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:49.840 because somebody can relate to your truth. Yeah yeah, yeah, someone, 1062 01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:55.319 It'll it'll ring true to people and they'll go that that doesn't sound like a 1063 01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:59.800 put on it. I'm not being had here, yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 1064 01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.520 And you know, sometime when it comes up to characters and voices, 1065 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:08.520 uh, I have a mini philosophy that if you do a perfect impression of 1066 01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:13.199 somebody that nobody knows, that's a new character. Yes. And if you 1067 01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:17.720 do a terrible impression of somebody everybody knows you're you're doing William Shatner and they 1068 01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:21.359 think it's Boris Karloff, Yeah, that's you got a new character. You 1069 01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:26.039 got a new character. Yeah, that's a um. A sentiment shared by 1070 01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:30.680 a lot of people. Jess Harney all talks about that. Um, when 1071 01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.840 they wanted me to do Richard Nixon and UM, and I said, I 1072 01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:39.079 you know, that's the thing about doing a perfect impression. Who the hell 1073 01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:42.479 cares? You know. Yeah, it's gotta it's gotta have a thought of 1074 01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:45.880 that. It's gotta be funny in some weird way, and you gotta throw 1075 01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:50.520 a curveball into it for it to make a mark. Yeah, otherwise you 1076 01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:54.479 just you know, I don't want to say you're just rich little rich little 1077 01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:57.800 is great, but but the impressions is not where you want to go. 1078 01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:02.119 So Nixon, yeah, you don't want to be Sparrow Agnew. No that 1079 01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:10.960 we have him. It's the headless body of Spiro agne Art. So anyway, 1080 01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:14.920 I I thought about Nixon, and I remember, UM, when I 1081 01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:17.079 was a little kid, Nixon and John F. Kennedy they were running for 1082 01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:21.439 president, and John F. Kennedy just looked beautiful. He looked like a 1083 01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:25.960 game show host, you know. He had that buttered toast hair and a 1084 01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:30.239 ultra bright smile. And Nixon, on the other hand, looked like a 1085 01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:36.800 sweathle. Yeah, always coming in and he would have his hair was matted 1086 01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:41.840 and everything, and they did extreme close ups of him because that's what Kennedy's 1087 01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:46.000 people wanted to do, yeah, because it was like grotesque and Kennedy again, 1088 01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:50.359 he looked like a mattinee Idol. And so I want to be president 1089 01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:56.479 of the United and I'm watching him with my mom and he was like, 1090 01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:00.319 he was like there was a tug of war going on in his head. 1091 01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:02.760 And I said, Mom, he looks like he's going to turn into a 1092 01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:08.359 werewolf because I was into horror movies and it was like Larry tall Butt, 1093 01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:10.479 you know. Yeah, but he did wait until he got off camera, 1094 01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:15.199 right, Yeah, whatever you know, whatever happens, whatever noises you hear 1095 01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:17.039 in this room, don't let me out after midnight, you know, because 1096 01:21:17.039 --> 01:21:20.920 it would turn into a werewolf. And I thought, I just kept thinking 1097 01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:24.199 about that, and I said, what if I play him like a guy 1098 01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:27.039 that's on the verge of turning into a werewolf? And it was like, 1099 01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:38.119 I want to be personally in because RU. Yeah, yeah, because that's 1100 01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:42.880 what that's in comic books. That's how it's written that r U. And 1101 01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:46.920 that's what became Nixon. And there's a lot of people that Nixon sounded like 1102 01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:51.640 they don't sound anything like Nixon. Yeah, oh that's perfect, but you 1103 01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:56.159 but you gotta, you know, put some kind of signature on it, 1104 01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:00.640 because if if somebody's doing Nixon impressions and they go a row, they'll say, 1105 01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:04.239 well, no, he's doing Billy, He's not doing Yeah. Yeah. 1106 01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:06.800 When you get the chance to voice Bugs Bunny, Billy, did you 1107 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:11.119 want to make sure you stay true to mel Blank's performance or did you want 1108 01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:14.039 to give that one you ain't spin as well? I tread like hell to 1109 01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:17.439 be faithful. But there's lots of things you can be faithful to, like 1110 01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:23.039 depending on the director, Like if it was a frizz freeling Bugs Bunny, 1111 01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:30.399 it was different from Um from Malampus yeah or um or some other what was 1112 01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:41.560 the other director there? Um, I forget um chucks um oh my tongue. 1113 01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:47.439 Yeah, there's Robert mckimpson, Chuck Jones, Chuck Jones, and and 1114 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:53.359 you had to pick one to kind of be. You couldn't be everything and 1115 01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:58.039 um, so I went with a certain version of Bugs Bunny, which was 1116 01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:01.760 not so cutesy, a little bit irreverend, but I wanted to walk it 1117 01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:04.319 down the line, you know. But the thing is is you're trying to 1118 01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:09.720 replicate choices of the greatest guy to ever step in front of a Mike mel 1119 01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:15.119 blank and um, so I you know, I just played it like I'm 1120 01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:18.760 gonna just do what the director wants. Yeah, if he says if he 1121 01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:20.800 tells me to do something, and I'm not going to say, well, 1122 01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:25.479 bugs wouldn't say that, you know, because I'm not an artiste, right 1123 01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:30.199 and um you know and that And I thought the movie was really great and 1124 01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:33.600 I got to work with a lot of my friends. You did, Dazzy, 1125 01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:38.720 Yeah, that was he just came in and came out boom. That 1126 01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:42.319 was great. That was great. And we had some good people to work 1127 01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:46.000 with. The director Ivan rightman, Um hired me to do that. And 1128 01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:55.159 you know Ghosts or No Ghostbusters Daddy Shack Yeah, oh god yeah yeah yeah 1129 01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:58.359 yeah. He's no longer with us. Yeah, but he was great. 1130 01:23:58.479 --> 01:24:01.600 He was a great guy to work for. Um. Yeah, you can 1131 01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:05.079 you know, if you're gonna replicate characters, you've got to try to be 1132 01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:10.079 faithful. You can't just try to turn it into a new thing. I 1133 01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:14.399 don't believe in that, you know. If I mean, I think impressions 1134 01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:17.640 are great, and I'll do him if I'm any good at one. But 1135 01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:23.119 but I'd rather always create from the ground up, where you're in on it 1136 01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:26.720 with everybody else. Like the writer said, we were thinking of a this 1137 01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:29.359 or that, and the producer will go, how about if it was this? 1138 01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:33.000 And and you listen to everybody and you become part of the amalgam, 1139 01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:38.079 you know, just like I said earlier, bringing something to the table. 1140 01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:43.680 Yeah, ain't I a little stinker? That's that's weird? Can you give 1141 01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:49.800 me some laugh? Though? Dare you good? Goodbye? I love Eric 1142 01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:55.680 Bowsa. He's a new guy and he's a phenom. He's not so new. 1143 01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:59.319 He's been on the scene for a while, but he's like shooting like 1144 01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:02.760 a rocket. He's coming up and he does I think, I don't know, 1145 01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:08.880 it's just my opinion. I think he handles the characters better than anybody. 1146 01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:12.319 You know. Yeah, he's really good. I mean he does, 1147 01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:15.359 like everybody, Yeah, and he does. He's like Warner Brothers. The 1148 01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:21.039 brother really is and um and everybody said, aren't you gonna worry about a 1149 01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:27.359 guy like that? And I said, watched the last scene in Um. 1150 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:31.640 Gentleman Jim. It was a movie in the forties. Gentleman Jim Corbett yeah, 1151 01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:40.359 I remember Harold Flynn and uh it was George Sullivan Bond. So John 1152 01:25:40.479 --> 01:25:43.840 L. Sullivan's the old timer, like an oak tree that used to stand 1153 01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:46.079 there and just throw punches, and he you could hit him, and he 1154 01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:51.840 was like a piece of iron. Gentleman Jim invented boxing. Yeah he was. 1155 01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:57.840 He was all over Yeah, John L. Sullivan like a thirty round 1156 01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:00.439 fight. And John L. Sullivan was the big man on campus and everything. 1157 01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:03.399 And here comes this guy out of nowhere and knocks him on his ass, 1158 01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:09.319 and and it's New Year's Eve and they're celebrating at Gentleman Jim's after the 1159 01:26:09.439 --> 01:26:13.079 fight. You know, he's got the he's got the world by the balls 1160 01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:16.560 suddenly. And then this old ward Bond shows up at his front door and 1161 01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:21.520 he's got a silk scarf on, and he got his belt, his his 1162 01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:25.680 world champion belt, and he hands it to him. You know, I 1163 01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:29.159 mean, you got to remember that the day is gonna come. Sure, 1164 01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:31.520 you know, that's just life, that's how it goes. Oh yeah, 1165 01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:38.119 yeah. It's not like I fancied myself of having a championship belt of any 1166 01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:45.880 kind. It's just like graciousness, yeah, being gracious Yeah yeah, yeah, 1167 01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:49.680 yeah, I know. I hate nothing but the best, nothing but 1168 01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:53.600 the best. You know, go for it. It's like I I'm I 1169 01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:57.640 root for anybody that's yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not real. This 1170 01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:04.079 isn't a real doggy dog and history or if if that's your mindset, yeah, 1171 01:27:04.359 --> 01:27:08.640 well it isn't for me. But but you're yeah, you have always 1172 01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:13.640 been like a relaxed um, very natural, and then you could put on 1173 01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:17.960 World War three at the snap of a finger, and that's what I admire. 1174 01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:21.279 Oh well thanks, yeah, you kidding me. Don't levis hang? 1175 01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:25.319 Levis hanging? I need to know some some gym Wild War three stories. 1176 01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:28.399 Man's never angry. I need to heed some Wild War three gym World War 1177 01:27:28.439 --> 01:27:30.680 three. Well, no, I don't know. No, he didn't mean 1178 01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:34.279 that kind of it's a you can go. I don't have a lot of 1179 01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:41.119 gearing up. We just did this thing the other day, but like eight 1180 01:27:41.279 --> 01:27:44.880 eight voices or eight characters, and I just turretted them out. I don't 1181 01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:50.600 My problem is all these psychoses and all these problems and neuroses that allow me 1182 01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:55.640 to do this. They're like this far under the surface. Yeah, it's 1183 01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:59.760 not like I have to go deep diving. That's what correct there, They're 1184 01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:02.760 like, get your back and call that. That's your your arms, yes, 1185 01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:09.239 um, and and you um had the ability to expand your bag of 1186 01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:13.199 tricks probably like like a motherfucker when you came to town. And that's why 1187 01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:17.439 everybody wanted some of that DNA of yours. Yeah, wow, that's good. 1188 01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:21.199 Yeah, maybe I've still got plenty and thank god we both do, 1189 01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:26.920 thank god. Yeah. I was ready to pull the plug, just go 1190 01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:29.600 fishing, you know, And then the phone started ringing, and I said, 1191 01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:31.079 I want to what you want to what? You know, screaming and 1192 01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:35.840 yelling again. Oh well, you know, sure, I mean lucky me. 1193 01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:40.439 Let's put it that out right. I don't feel like, you know, 1194 01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:44.239 come on, give me a break, you know, because I started 1195 01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:47.119 out wanting to work as many hours a day as I could, because, 1196 01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:50.119 like I said, my uncles were oh yeah, you know, they were 1197 01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:55.000 these blue collar attitudes, journeyman and they would sleep Some of these old Irish 1198 01:28:55.000 --> 01:29:00.039 guys in the forties and thirties would sleep in the doorway of work after so 1199 01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:03.520 they left the bar at night the way they'd be on time. They'd sleep 1200 01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:06.680 in the doorway and the foreman would come in and go get up. I 1201 01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:13.479 want to work and and and I looked at their rationale was like, I 1202 01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:15.079 didn't want to go home because I wouldn't make it to work. I want 1203 01:29:15.119 --> 01:29:17.079 going to lose my job, you know, I don't want to lose my 1204 01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:20.560 job. Yeah. Yeah. And they were tight lipped and they were hard 1205 01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:26.079 asked, and they had iron constitutions. Man. Yeah, well you know 1206 01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:29.000 that I'm a fan of you big time, and I love you. I 1207 01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:31.319 just love you, and I think you You've always been like a pace car. 1208 01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:34.800 You know. You gotta watch to go. That's how it's done. 1209 01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:39.720 Thanks man, you know, thank you very much. God bless you. 1210 01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:43.880 Billy West. Ladies, gentlemen, that was good. We're done. I'm 1211 01:29:43.920 --> 01:29:46.800 happy. I'm happy, and I'm so happy. Just the excuse to come 1212 01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:49.920 over and just shoot the ship with you is fine by me. Well, 1213 01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:53.920 thanks everybody. Yeah, I don't know, I'll look at one of these. 1214 01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:57.960 Hey, Jim Cummings here tuned in with Jim Cummings with Billy West for 1215 01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:00.560 cran out Loud. What else do you want? Subscribe? Yeah? Like, 1216 01:30:00.840 --> 01:30:03.800 hey guys, hey, guys, like push that button, like and 1217 01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:10.159 subscribe. I'm on Venmo and PayPal. Do we have that take care of 1218 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:13.720 me. We've got something anyway, have a good time. Thanks