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o'celly effect. Hopefully you were looking for the show, but if not,
and you just stumbled across it, welcome anyway. It's a Sunday, it's
weird. I don't usually broadcast on a Sunday. I don't usually record on
a Sunday. That is often my day off. But when I had a
chance to sit down with an old friend, I said, yeah, let's
do this on a Sunday. Ed Opperman. Okay, if you haven't heard
of the Opperman Report, welcome to the internet. Because he's been around a
while. Uh and he's been on my show much many times, much times.
That's good. That's perfect excellent grammar there on my part. Anyway.
Ed Opperman private investigator, podcaster, a fighter against the New World Order.
His announcements say on his radio show, I think still Ed first off,
man, how you doing on this fine Sunday afternoon. Oh yeah, I'm
still using that same intro that we recorded ten years ago. And I am
doing very well on this Sunday afternoon. Thank you for working around my schedule.
I had to get some stuff done today. I interviewed this kid,
Quinn Mitchell. You might have seen him. He's fifteen years old and he's
that kid that asked a question to Ron de Santis and De Santis got all
pissed off at him and kicked him out of his rally over there. Okay,
so I answer you at him this afternoon. That's a free time this
afternoon view. Great, Well, you're gonna put that up on Patreon,
because I know you got the active Patreon over there where listeners can go sign
up. And I see Operaman Report releases all the time here squeaking behind me.
By the way, there's a new little batch of puppies that might chime
in during the show. My apologies, but I can't leave him out with
the other dogs because they were just born like a week and a half ago.
Anyways, just telling you what the noise is. Uh so, yeah,
and you have is patreon slash Opperman Report right or is it something else?
No, that's it Opperman Report at Patreon. I got up there some
exclusive everything we put out Monday a Friday on AMFM radio. You can find
their commercial free five hours of content a week guaranteed. Nice. Then I
took some exclusive stuff. I just interviewed May Pang, so I second interview
with May Pang, John Lennon's ex girlfriend. John Lennon had a wild weekend,
the Lost Weekend. I remember hearing about that on the Howard Stern Show
years ago because I wasn't a big Beatles fan, but I have to confess
I'm a recovering Stern listener from many years ago. Uh have you listened to
him lately? By the way, I got to ask you about that.
I just listened to him today. I was in the carl listening to him
today. Yeah. I just did a show with the radio gunk who does
a whole show about the Howard Stern too. Man. He wow, he
is definitely he turned into something different since he's been on Serious FM, you
know, over the past what decade now, more than a decade I think
he's been on Serious right. Oh yeah, yeah. But that story he
talks about, you know, the loss of his mother, and his mother
is like in a cam you know, and the loss of his father very
mundane, you know, brushing his teeth, you know. He he's very
isolated it from the world and just talking about like an old man just aroundling
he always was. But then he turns around and decides to scream at people
about I don't care drop dead if you don't get a vaccine, and I'm
like, oh my god, you know, and I'm certain that given the
circumstance on the world stage, he's right now probably screaming about how Israel needs
to wipe Palestine off the planet, which I don't even want to discuss with
you, but you know, because I'm sick of hearing about it. And
you know, look, I know it's a it's a pivotal thing. It's
important, yes, indeed, But I'm talking to Ed Opperman today. I
want to relax a little bit and talk about other stuff like may Pang,
because the may Pang story is pretty wild. Now. I was always fascinated
by this weird Yoko Ono kind of circumstance, like how did she land a
rock star? She was an avant garde artist and all that crap. Well,
even apparently the guy who wants to post naked on an album cover,
whether might have gotten sick of her temporarily or she gave him permission, I
think to go run away with may Pang temporarily. Did you get into that
story with Maypeg? I interviewed may Pang about five years ago and we did
like a nice two hour interview and the one things she's hesitant to talk about,
you know, in this newest film, The Lost Weekend, a love
story. Okay, first of all, it's a great film. I recommend
you go to IMDb look it up and you could buy its streaming. There's
a lot of video footage on there you haven't seen before. And she flushes
out the story of the Last Weekend a lot of details that I haven't heard
before. And also the producers and Julian Lennon is in it quite bit.
I had no idea the depths of the relationship she had until this day with
Julian London and with the Julian London's mother. Wow. Now in the film,
they really get into Yoko. Everybody's afraid of Yoko. I'm afraid of
Yoko myself. Okay, everyone's afraid of Yoko. Let this guy. Okay,
wait, wait, everybody you're afraid you are afraid of Yoko Ono.
Now, look, when I was running bootleg and you know, music out
of New York City. I was a little nervous about Yoko and On myself,
because she would literally show up with people at stores like on Saint Mark's
Place and whatever else and shut places down and get people like literally arrested over
bootleg albums if it contained anything related to John Lennon. So I can understand
being nervous if you're in that position. What in the hell would make ed
Appraman nervous regarding Yoko Ono. Well, I just don't want to get trigged
into court, you know. And like I said, I was going to
have this I think his name is Senora so Hit his name, but he
had just gotten out of prison and for some selling some John Lennon material that
he wasn't supposed to have, and right before I was going to do an
interview and he got rearrested. So I don't just want to get ragged into
Yoko On with stuff. But the documentary film was very much more open and
liberal about talking about Yoko Ono and the hypnotism that caused John Lennon to go
back to Yoko Ono. But when I tried to talk, first of all,
it was right before the film was to come out, so it was
one of those all day press events where she was sitting there in the room
taking interviews that everybody. So they were all going to give me twenty minutes.
Yeah, and according to what I see online, I mean they just
released this film on the thirteenth of this month, so I mean this is
fresh, this is oh yeah, And I answered the luck on the tenth
I was in, it was only like twelve people I say that interviewed it
too, so they only gave me twenty minutes. And then they had some
technical problems over there, so it was a little bit late. And I
said, hey, listen, I'm still getting twenty minutes, right, and
Sai, oh yeah, I don't worry you getting twenty minutes. So I
didn't want to waste any time, so there was no cratuities. I mean
usually my pre interviews like fifteen minutes. So we kind of rushed through the
interview. And she was very hesitant. I could tell right away she was
hesitant into being as open as the film was about Yoko. She's still a
radio too, you know, like a lot of people are. But it's
still a good interview. You can find it in the Patreon. The film
I'd recommend one, uh, what's it called again? The Last Weekend?
Last Weekend? A love story apparently, And yeah, and there's a trailer
out there that you can find on YouTube. Apparently it's got let's see a
Tribeca Film Festival official selection okay, uh, and a few other things,
but yeah, let's see. Okay. I was looking to see if it
maybe won an award already, but no, not yet, but it was
nominated for some awards and stuff looks pretty good. They got this. Uh.
The thumbnail on the YouTube is a really interesting little picture of like Lennon,
like you know, with different looks on his face and different friends.
Let me tell you, there's a lot of video footage in this thing I
haven't seen before, Okay, like a Julie and like a birthday party when
he was a little kid running around this big state. You know, there's
a lot of video in there you haven't seen before. Nice. So,
I mean, if you're just a Beatles fan, that this is of interest
plus made The main Pang story is kind of wild because to my understanding,
now again you're saying she's a little nervous about talking about Yoko, but it
was sort of like Yoko almost said, okay, I give you permission to
go, like right, oh no, yeah that part yeah, and by
the way too, that's Yoko's official story to that whole thing. But I
give you permission to go. And Yoko told that story interviewing herself where there
was a she videotaped herself answering the questions, and then videotaped herself answering the
questions. Okay, man, no, no, I know I'm afraid of
people like that. No, gianty you know she's related to a hero heito?
Did you know that? And she went to an old boy's college and
I wait, and her and her husband, wait a set, what is
this? She had some kids with some guy, and then her and Lennon
kidnapped the kids from the guy, and then they gave it back to the
guy and the guy had to run and hide in a cult for years.
Wow. Okay, oh, man, yokos got crazy, crazy stories,
a lot of reasons to be afraid of her. Okay, I didn't know
all this. I'm recommending fear, chuck. Okay, no, you're recommending
fear of Yoko Ono. Okay, look look cool. I mean I'm not
gonna. I'm not gonna get nervous about it just yet, but maybe I
will if I dig into it, because sounds pretty weird. So anyway,
what is she hesitating about though? I mean, if that's all there is
to it, what is this was? It was about the hypnotism in her
story, and she told the story on my show, and they tell a
story in the video that when John went back to visit her, she said,
Oh, I want you to come on, We're going to hypnotize you
to quit smoking. And then suddenly John was saying, oh, Yoko's letting
me come back. I'm gonna move backward to Ugo. And she really flushes
out that whole story. So there's that. One more thing too that I
found out that I didn't know before is that she had been meeting with Lennon
five years after that breakup, that they would get back together and have little
rendezvous, as mister Bill Cosby used to call them, the kind of like
secretly, you know, a little fun dagger like Okay, let Yoko,
I know, but I'm gonna write Little Tristan for five years when hey,
look, things like that happen, you know, it seems seems like there
might have been some love there. Okay, So now I'm getting the idea
why they named the video that way. I mean, it's a love story.
That's great, Okay, cool. No, I will check it out
and I'll give you guys links in the show notes on O'Kelly dot com so
you can follow through about the film. I'm going to give them a little
promotion, even though a nothing you might like in the Patreon. So as
long as we're promoting the operant report as low as three dollars a month,
by the way tensent today, I put a lot of free stuff in it.
So I have all those videos of Mike Lindell in that deposition where he's
freaking out his pillows, Lumpy, did you watch those depositions? No?
I didn't know about that part, you know. I I go to the
new release because I'm on your Patreon, and I go, I'm one of
your patrons, and yeah, I'm signed up. You'll you'll find me there.
I'm either signed up as check O'Kelly or the Acelli Effect. I have
two accounts with Patreon, but one or the other I might be signed up
as the ocell ef a matter of fact, I know him signed up as
the ocell effect because they deduct it from my Patreon right right. Anyways,
Yeah, so, uh so I didn't know about this stuff. Yeah,
tell me about the extra stuff because I know you mentioned it because I put
a lot of free stuff up too. Okay, And like I said,
all the depositions of Mike Lindell over his lawsuit with Domingion voting machines and where
he's freaking out at this deposition throwing tangents and stuff, and at one point
the attorney says, well, when people call you up to complain about the
lumpy pillows, he freaks out, it goes lumpy pillow. Oh my god.
I have all that up that. But I also interviewed the fellow just
recently, mister to get his name, Rob from Las Vegas, and the
he one that computer a cyber symposium where Mike Lindell said, Hey, if
you if you can prove that my report here that he brought from a convicted
con man, that there's any errors in this report that that was tamping with
the voting equipment there, I'll pay you five million dollars. Yeah, I
guess I did prove it. He won. And now Lin Dell's trying to
stiff on. As a matter of fact, I did that interview the day
before Lindell went on TV and said that his lawyer's will quit. Oh wow.
Well look, I don't usually do this in public, but I'd love
to talk to that guy. If he's willing to tell a story to me,
it's great. Yeah, I'd love to hear from him, just to
get that story, because I read about it and it was like, okay,
so he offered five million dollars and yeah, and then now he doesn't
want to pay, and now he's not paying. Yeah. Well, you
know, look, he wants to style himself after Trump. I mean,
that's that's about Trump's m O. Right, I mean this is what the
guy does. Okay, yeah, screw you take me to court and then
he pays, you know, forty eight cents on the dollar. I happen
to know that figure from one of the cases in Jersey. But anyway,
you tell me, well, you know, check another show. I bet
you would love I just put it up. You might have seen it yet.
You remember Art Bell? Right? Oh yeah of course, okay,
yeah, so Art Bell did that story wry about Mel's hole. Okay,
do you remember that Mel Waters he was up in Washington State and he found
this hole on his property and it was like seven thousand feet deep and all
that kind of nonsense. No, I don't remember that because, you know
what, the thing that sticks with me with Art Bell, biggest thing of
all is that the guy with the time traveler deal, the John Teeter Tighter
or whatever his name was. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, that was
crazy. But he had a whole bunch of stuff like this. Tell me
about Mel's hole a little bit. Good. Mouse Hole was this wacky story
and I play the whole call in Mousehole. Mel Walters was a guest or
Waters it might have been. He was a guest, and then there were
callers into So I played pretty much the whole thing, about thirty minutes of
that. But my involvement with that which I try to, you know,
start myself into everything I can that I know the guy that wrote that story,
and the guy who wrote that story was this crazy guy that was basically
stalking Bell on old Bell used net and h message boards. Yeah yeah,
okay, you remember that stuff. Yeah, that boards. Yeah, and
like the in the in the late mid to late nineties when if the late
and on the Internet. Yeah, like ninety seven, I think is my
first experience with that, and you could go on there. I was on
the JFK boards back then. That was one of the first things I got
onto. And then I think other guys traded like you know, a homemade
you know, porno, like like if you had naked pictures of your girlfriend,
there was message boards for it. You know, this is the wild
days of the Internet, and people would trade weird stories. I think that's
where like you know, creepy pasta and all that like actually evolved from those
message boards right where people were trading like this is a true crazy story from
my town, and urban legends got spread around. As a matter of fact,
I'm taking a look at your Patreon now. Is this the one called
Opperman Live? Is the Opperman Report of time travel Portal? No, but
I think the Opperaman Report is a time travel portal. Okay, we'll get
to that. That's one of my Friday night live shows where I talk about
how I've predicted so much stuff. Man, that's come right, you know,
I'm like a thousand percent especially and that was last week. That's before
I predicted I predicted the night before Sydney Powell flipped that she was gonna flip.
Oh I want to get out to that too. Well, look,
you do predictions on Friday nights. That's what you're doing. No, no,
no, no, not I should, oh I should. Okay,
I'm the Gene Dixon of the talk radio nineteen of twenty twenty four. Oh
but I'll just at to so many my passions, Like I predicted Trump was
gonna get go to prison, wind up in prison. Well listen to wait,
wait, you're predicting Trump is going to go to prison. I predicted
that in twenty fifteen during the primary he was gonna wind up in present.
Gentleman's bet with you. I'll bet you a dollar. Okay, I'll bet
you got it. I'll bet you a dollar he does not go to prison.
Okay, okay, Well, like seriously, and I my time expires
in twenty twenty five. If he doesn't go to prison by twenty twenty five,
you mail me a crisp one dollar bill, Okay to twenty twenty five
December thirty first, twenty twenty five. Okay, I can do that,
yep. And also to let's get this down correctly. Yeah, now,
uh does that count, contempt of court, doing jail time. No,
no, no, you said prison Okay, okay, okay, now just
get the facts down. Yeah, because I'm I'm I would also if you
want to double that bet, okay, I'll bet you two dollars that he
does he does a night in jail, contempt of court. Hmmm before all
all this ends. Now see, I think that's possible. I I I
wouldn't want to bet against that one. I think he could easily go for
contempt. But I don't think no prison time and actual sentence. Nope,
no way. Matter of fact, I'll tell you what, if you want
to go a double or nothing, I got. I got a prediction for
you. And I'm not good at predicting. I I literally you know,
I'm the guy who picked only twice correctly in my entire life a super Bowl.
Okay, and uh that that indeed does mean that I bet on the
Bills what four times? Anyways? So you know what I'm saying. The
Buffalo Bills, remember that losing streak they had, they would get to the
super Bowl and not win. I'm not at all Okay, no worries neither
am I. Thus you know probably stands the reason why I didn't win.
But anyway, I'll give you a two dollars bet on he's actually going to
be declared the winner in twenty four. Well that's a possibility too, Okay,
I would give you that. That's a possibility. All right, So
we're stuck on the dollar. But you know what I stand by it.
I don't think he's going to serve no prison time, no way a night
for contempt or violating his gag order or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
he might get tossed in there because I think that would be advantageous to
him, because the way I see it is, all of this has been
advantageous to him up to this point. You know. It strengthened his core
support, and I think it's actually extended the you know, the grievance factor
when it comes to the GOP side of the equation. It's all about the
grievance, like they do believe him when they when he says they're coming after
me because they want you, you know, and the whole place. It's
a whole mess. But anyway, yeah, no, I'll take I'll do
that dollar bet though, and if you can think of something else, we'll
add to it. Okay, that's a little running town. Oh yes,
the show goes on. Sure, let's do it. I'll tell you about
my time travel portal with Trump though, yes, please. The day after
Princess Diana died, I was invited to the US Open and h David dinkin
stadium. They had to watch the US Open from a friend of him,
right, and Trump was about twenty five feet away. If I would have
thrown a rock at I could have hit him with a rock. And everyone's
supposed to be looking down at the tennis players, but Trump is looking up,
you know, and he's talking to these two young models. You know.
They were very animated talking to mister Trump, Dana. But every time
I would turn my head, he was staring right at me. Okay.
And I had never met him personally at that time, whatsoever, I had
no connection with Trump or anything he had would at that time, he should
not have known who I am. Okay, unless time travel okay, because
let me tell you, okay, this is a time traveling portal. Okay.
But what I thought it was is that one time I was out with
some friends of mine and there were bunch of flight attendants and they had one
of those flight attendant parties apartments in Manhattan. This doesn't have anything to do
with Boa Diedle, does it. It does have to do both. Did
I told you to start before? No? No, I could. Yeah,
go ahead, because well, you know again, you and I we
were kind of in the same area at the same time during certain events,
so I can imagine who would be which, by the way, I don't
know if I'll tell you my Trump story too, which will take about a
whole of a minute, but go ahead. They said, you'll never believe
who's at our apartment tonight, And I said who? They said, Marla
Maples. Now this is the stewardesses, said this, Yeah, okay,
because they had one of those stewardess apartments where people were coming and going all
the time. And Marlon Maples had just hit the press that Trump was cheating
on Evanna, and Marlon Maples had to high tail it out of her apartment
because the paparazzi was following her around, and she went and hid in the
stewardess apartment with two garbage bags of her clothes, that's all she had.
So I made the joke with you with a straight face. I said,
oh, well, let's go in there. We could tap the phones,
and then we could sell it to the paparazzi. We could sell it to
the National choir, right, And they all got mad at me. Oh,
you're so cruel this poor girl. How reasons me? I said,
who's paying for this night out? I can beck make all the bad jokes
I want, so when you know, a couple of weeks later, I
made the same joke to Bo Diedele, right, And I always assumed that
it was Bo who ran to Trump and said, Hey, Trump, I'm
gona keep an eye in the sky. Befully he wants to tap your phone,
blah blah. By I was just going to say, Bo Deedle would
exactly be the guy who does that. Yeah, go ahead and give me,
give me a little bullshit twenty old retainer. And so I always figured
when Trump was staring me down at the US Open that it was because Bo
or someone had gotten to him. But now I don't know, man.
I think it could be time travel. And he knows, you know,
Mike work in the Epstein case, my work in the Trump and Epstein lawsuit.
He knows I have to clatch right now in a Stormy Daniels case all
my people put that Stormy Daniels deal together. So he definitely knows who I
am. Now I'm convinced of that. Keith Schiller. I've done jobs with
Keith Schiller. Juliani knows who I am. So I sure see there you
go that that could be the problem right there. I wonder if did I
ever tell you that story about the US in Trepid. I don't think so
that's a good story. Man. You like this because involves Roger Stone.
Oh okay, yeah, go ahead, good. It involves another guy we
both know, but I'm not going to say his name. Okay, okay.
I was sitting home right and I'm watching the Trump's gonna debate Hillary Clinton
at the US and Trepid. Now, the US Intrepid is owned by a
guy named the Fisher Foundation Fisher House, Dad, and Fisher is this rich
guy in New York is a real estate rich guy, and he owns the
Intrepid Museum. He commissioned the shuttle to come up part of the Interpreting Museum
and stuff like that. And so he's got a bunch of stuff in the
what they used to call the garment district, right, I mean, I
don't know about that. I don't know that. But he donates money to
nine to eleven victim military people and stuff first responders, and he's got this
I would call it a fetish where he would hire one hundred cops in uniform
to run these funerals for his friends and relatives and show up with their bag
pipes, in their motorcycles and duel and stuff, and have one hundred cops
there, you know, in formation. So they give him like a police
version of a military funeral kind of deal, and he hires them to go
there in their uniforms and probably run here. He would hire that through Keith
Shiller, and Keith Shiller later on went to work with Trump's Trump's head of
security. Then he went to work on at the White House, Trump's head
of the White House. There he was somehow at a meeting in Iraq.
Okay, went there the military over there. Okay. I so Keith Schiller
knows who I am. I've done work for Keith Shiller, And Keith Schiller
was pissed off at me and my partner when we went to a little business
together because Keith Shiller had this business where he was controlling all the cops in
New York City, and you couldn't dare touch on his little toes, even
if my little tiny business had nothing to do with this guy anyway. So
Keith Schiller was working for Fisher House, he was working for Trump. And
now Trump's down there at the Intrepid Museum to do this debate with Hillary Clinton.
And who's there in the audience Trump's guests? You got, uh,
Paula Jones, who I need a broad rick, that whole bunch. Put
those together, Okay, I know every one of those people. Of course
I've interviewed half of them. Me and Paula Jones had the same agent,
the same agent, by the way, Gina Rodriguez, who's a witness in
the Stormy Daniels case. You put the Stormy Daniels thing together. Okay,
you know who the world all is this? Yeah? No, you know,
Wanita, you know, uh, don't you know Danny's uh what do
you called it? Bill Clinton's black son? Basically? You know, I
know I tried to get him one years ago and he was real popular and
he would just blow me off over and over. I forgot who gave me
his name. Oh, I know who it was? That guy, Uh,
Robert Morrow. So I talked to Daniel Willing. I said, it's
Patty his pronounce the name. I just told you. I just told you.
Well, look that that that guy's a strange case anyway, you know.
And he's he's he's Have you met him in person Tomorrow, No,
I haven't met him in person, but we've had you know, I've had
him on the show. He did a great hit the first show with me
about Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. No, he's one of those guys though.
He's kind of like like he screams like this is what they didn't know what
was called autism before kind of deal. He's like one of those shaky,
nervous guys, really really quirky, odd presence if you're in a room with
him. I've only been in a room with him once. I've interviewed him
once on the show. But yeah, he's he's an odd one, kind
of you know me, but he's an odd guy. Yeah. God good
though, But in Morrow's there, of course. Okay, but let's be
putting Bob Morrow's side. Yeah, yeah, putting him on the shelf,
on the shelf the Intrepid Museum. So all these Bill Clinton mistresses are sitting
around, and who else is there? Keith Schiller is there, Giuliani's there.
These are all people who know me. So somehow my name must have
come up in that group, probably because I get a phone call from a
guy and he said, was on behalf of Rogerstone, on behalf of okay,
on behalf of Rogerstone. Yeah, and he calls me up. He
goes, ed, I'm over here at the tumid. Oh this is wait.
This was the day after Kelly and Conway, the day after the grab
him by the pussy tape came out the Axis Hollow. Everything's day after Everything's
on fire then, because yeah, yeah, okay, so the Access Hollywood
deal with the bus and right, okay, this is going on, right,
but what are they talking about? We need that oppoman. They called
me up. They want me to give them Kathy O'Brien's contact information because they
wanted to get a hold of Kathy O'Brien and get her in that room too,
to get her in the little group. Okay, which okay, which,
by the way, you know, depending on who it is, I
mean, Rogerstone could have a variety of people that volunteer to do stuff for
him. I don't know if you know about that little next to some people,
but interesting group of cats that he has coming and going there that you
know, say they're his security, they're representing him. Oh oh yeah,
yeah, oh yeah, I'm in with that whole bunch. I'll tell you
about that, Okay. But the thing is, man, so what the
guy says to be he goes, yeah, that access Hollywood thing. Kelly
and Conway leaked that because she's fucking CIA. Oh what That's what they were.
This is what they were doing. This is what they were talking about.
This is what was going on before Trump starts debating Hillary at the Intrepid
Museum. Oh man, what a clown show. Oh my god. Yeah,
I mean, Kelly, can you picture Kelly and Conway working for the
CIA? I don't know, man, I've had people on my show.
I thought out later on they were CIA. I didn't think there were c
A at the time. I think a lot more people not you know,
actual say agents full time, but you know, or sponsored an asset,
an asset that was okay. Well look, anybody, anybody could be an
asset, okay, because they'll utilize anyone. You can go through. You
know, if you look at what I what I refer to as the Assassination
Guide. You ever read that thing about Central and South America where they talk
about the people that they, you know, like to recruit for certain work
and all this kind of stuff. You know, they give medications of the
types of people that they're fully willing to employ one way or another in this
guidebook, which is too funny because at a certain point it says, you
know, sho, you should commit nothing to paper, and you're reading this
off of a freaking handbook that they put the paper right. It's really funny.
But yeah, yeah, no, they they were. They're willing to
employ anybody pretty much. It doesn't matter if it's criminals, low lives,
degenerates of any kind, you know, paranoid guys that you know, actually
paranoid guys. They recruited a bunch of post World War II that were like
these like lunatics that were like following everybody around and surveilling people in Germany that
weren't even part of the uh, you know, the the Gestapo and stuff
that we're doing that independently, the CIA was recruiting those guys all kinds of
weird stuff. You never know, who they could actually attempt to recruit to
use as an asset. So fair enough, but Kelly and Conway does not
strike me as an effective asset in any way, shape or form. I
mean, well, and I said also to George Conway, you know he
was up to his neck and all that stuff, Kenneth Starr and the Star
report and who was that girl, the nineteen year old. Well, he's
one of those people that gets himself, you know, like you were saying,
you get yourself, you know, invited into situations. He's that kind
of I'm trying not to anymore. I just I just quit a big job.
I just quit a really big thing that's going to be on the news.
Oh boy, Well, do you want to give me a hint or
no? Yeah, I can give you a hint. Well, it's opposition
research, okay, and on a sitting political candidate, a sitting but a
political uh congressman. It's a huge sex tape. Okay, it's a huge
nice story. And by and I had I couldn't. I couldn't for my
own personal reasons and stuff like that. I discontinue my my cooperation with this.
But I did lay down a good road work road map. There's a
very competent young journalist involved in this, and a very prestigious publication, so
there's no problem there, but my involvement. I had to back away.
But I did leave a roadmap for them, so I will take credit in
the future. The next time I'm a guess, I'll run the whole thing.
All right, cool? Cool? But is it that it was too
disturbing or is it that it was just getting a little too close to people
that are a little too greasy? What are we talking here? Kind of
why you had to back Okay, Okay, I've been thinking about this.
Okay, I'm older now, Okay, I'm not doing I'm not the guy
I wasn't too. I was eighteen and went, I don't know if I
ever say we were talking about the TV show. At the beginning of that
TV show the clip, you know, it says, hey, you know,
people come to me with their problems and I fix their problems for him,
right, And I'm really you know, I'm half the man I was
back in twenty eighteen, first of all. But you look good on that
too. You know, you look good on that tape. You look nice,
and you know, I think I look great. You look like you
look like, you know, you're like what they're trying to portray you as,
and you come off as is I'm like the Batman. They called me
Batman, and they do. The thing is too. I was in great
shape, and I was swimming three miles. I was hiking you all day
long. Yeah, I was briding my bike for you know, you didn't
strike me as coming from the League of Shadows. But here's the thing.
When somebody says to me that, you know, you're you're definitely like a
rugged sort of PI guy who's willing to get a little bit down and dirty.
You had to look, you know. But the thing is in the
past. Okay, Like with the Sarah Palin case, I had a client.
Okay, with the Epstein stuff, I had a client. Okay,
Carli Sheen, you know whatever, Wiener Gate, all that stuff. I
had a client. You had a couple of clients with some of those things.
But yeah, yeah, right, But so that you know, it's
not a situation where, okay, if they get if they take out an
opera man, the client's just going to hire somebody else, you know.
So I'm really not at that high risk where this situation here there really was
no client. It was me negotiating this for my own benefits, you know,
for my own and it was just very uncomfortable doing that, okay,
And I don't think I'm up for it this moment in my life, so
I backed away from it. But I think the stars were all in aligned,
and I think that had I pursued it, we may not have we
may not be seeing this chaos we see right now in the House of Representatives
right now, which I'm taking perfectly with. You know. I said the
other day that Matt Gates is a fellow who who broke up with his high
school girlfriend the night before prom. He fired Kevin McCartney there with no replacement
in sight. So he breaks up with his call his high school girlfriend with
no date for the problem, and then prom night he went stick, but
he fired the limo driver, so he has no ride home, okay,
which it's the same kind of stunt he pulled there with having no one to
fill in for Kevin McCartney there. Yeah, well, you know, he's
that kind of guy. You know, I don't need to play it,
but you know it's odd because I would have thought, you know, if
it was going to be a sex tape, I would have pointed at a
different congressman. But I'll ask you about that maybe off air. I see
what you gotta say, because well, you know, I'm not going to
press you on it. You don't want to reveal it just yet. Oh
no, I can't. No, I wouldn't be allowed to do that.
I can't say larning that stuff. No, no, But I just want
to throw something at you that I heard, you know, through the grapevine.
But we'll get to it later. Anyways, So you're telling me about
this whole thing with the intrepid, okay, and that that's really fascinating.
Oh my Trump story, I want to tell you real fast. Remember back
in the time when Trump was working a lot with Vince McMahon, and Vince
McMahon was doing this I don't know, Bodybuilding Federation crap, right, yeah,
okay, So anyways, they had this event in Atlantic City and they
had you know, like a press room in this kind of thing, and
then there was another place I guess fans could meet the bodybuilders or something.
Right, it was like Vince McMahon's big next thing. He was because he
was mister personal bodybuilder too and all that. Anyways, I got invited there
by some of the guys that worked security, but not the group that's normally
with Trump, like the adjunct guys that he would pick up locally. Okay,
same group of guys that would handle like say, when you know the
the MTV beach house came to a town or you know that kind of stuff.
That little group of guys. You know what I'm talking about, Yeah,
Okay. So the thing is that they're they're not they're not connected to
Italian businessmen, but they are connected to Italian businessmen, right they they know
them, but they don't really work for them. So there's this odd confluence.
In this private room that was had there was like a like a closed
off not a dining room, but like a banquet room there, I guess,
okay, at the Trump property, and I got invited to be in
there. In this room, there's no press allowed, okay, and everybody
speculating whether Trump's gonna come through there, McMahon's gonna come through there. Trump
himself walks in there, and I happen to be sitting with guys who I
don't want to give out their name. Still I can tell the story,
but I can't give out their name. Anyways, let's just say these were
guys who definitely would have known all about the cement stuff that I that I
talked to you about years ago with Trump and everything right okay, and they're
just laughing at him. I got to shake Trump's hand. I never wanted
to admit it, admitted on air. People ask me, hey, you
ever meet him, because you were, you know, in New Atlantic City.
I never even wanted to admit this because I wasn't sure if I could
even tell the story. But the joke was he walks away after you know,
these guys are like snickering at him, and they're going, you know,
well, one thing I can guarantee you is this, he says to
one of the guys that I knew, said to me, one thing I
can guarantee you is this. He'll never stiff us. He stiff everybody else,
but not us, not that I promise you. And I said,
well why, he said, well, you never read about it in the
papers, have you? And then there was a comment about you could also
look he realizes that I don't care who he is, will end up in
a trunk, so we never get stiffed. Keep that in mind. That's
what he told me I was okay. Anyway. I got to shake his
hand though, and his hands aren't that big. Just telling you, you
know, I believe that. And I don't know if you have ever heard
that John Tino story. The name is familiar, but go ahead. I
think they bought. His name is Jeff Lee Levigne and he wrote a book
about the Trump and about Trump and his women and stuff like that. I
had him on the show anyway. In the book he talks about this fellow.
His fake name is John Tino, and he used to run the massage
parlors in Times Square, like in the early eighties, and Trump used to
according to John Tino, who was organized crime, that Trump would go in
there and he would hook him up with this porn star and Trump would go
in. They'd call him mister real Estate, and Trump would have sex with
these porn stars. And he said that they were filming everything that was going
on in there, and that one time Trump had a threesome with a porn
star and a very young girl like twelve thirteen years old. Okay, with
a girl there, and they have a film at at Now what makes you
know you hear these stories? Okay, it's in a book, but what
makes me believe it. There's a couple of things. When the whole Epstein
thing broke. I forget when at one point, either when Epstein died or
when he got arrested, the crap hit the fan. I was getting phone
calls from everybody. Business Insider was going to my website downloading the twenty four
page letter where Epstein said he created the Clinton Foundation, and I was being
contact BBC interviewed. I could go to find out if I look up that
BBC interview and the people reports were coming to me, and they were kind
of saying, hey, you don't believe that John Tino stuff, do you?
And I says, well, what Johntino stuff? Of course, I
don't believe that. You know what Jontino stuff. And then when I interviewed
the guy who wrote the book and mentioned the whole John Tino story, they
wouldn't talk about John Tino. I had him on, then I had his
co author on. First I had the co author on and she says,
oh, you have to ask you how the author he knows about Johntino.
He worked on that part. I was asleep that day. Okay, you
have to talk to him. And he wouldn't talk about it either. It's
in the book after the book was published. But that the something happens,
Okay, a mystery where suddenly people don't want to talk about something that's already
in the book. Money gets to them in some kind of ways. Because
the woman went on vacation in France for months. I saw that, and
somehow and even you know Daniel hanks Man, he talks about this. He
says he worked for the tabloids at those times cover up stories for Trump,
so he must know a lot of stuff. Right. Well, look,
there's the catch and kill angle. But there's also this other problem here because
if you notice at a certain point, you know, when they did the
whole sweep and they cleaned out you know, Times Square in that whole area,
and you know, those massage parlors became a thing of the pass because
of Giuliani. Right yeah, Okay, Well here's the thing. Not everybody
got picked up or went to jail there, you know what I mean?
That is so true. Yeah, So if you pay attention to who didn't
go to jail there, you can kind of see who got let go,
you know what I mean? And I think that's what it's got to do
with because now I'm putting this together in my mind about something I think it's
related to that is that there were certain people that Giuliani was not allowed to
touch. The strip clubs too. They put those previsions on the strip clubs.
They couldn't be close to a church or school and stuff like that,
and a whole bunch of strip to shut down except for ones associated with a
certain group. That's right, uh, the pathrow right there, you go,
exactly exactly that was the thing. And I can't track down. I
mean, I know some people who should be able to tell me that,
but they don't tell me that, you know what I mean. So there's
something about that where certain people were untouchable for a reason, and I think
that that has continued to go on, and they might have caught, you
know, instead of a pecker catching and killing that tape or whatever, it
might have been caught and killed for Giuliani, you know what I mean,
and for Trump, you know what I mean, Like that thing comes together
like look, you let us operate, and we got this, you know
what I'm saying. One of those kinds of things, Cause that's the sense
I get. I can't prove that. But that is the sense I get
from the situation because I've always and I've tried to tell people, go look
at it for yourself and see who didn't have to lose their businesses. Okay,
he was on his crusade, right, he was shutting down pornos stores,
he was shutting down massage parlors. We're going to clean out all this
fils. We're going to turn it into a family. You know, you're
gonna come here for New Year's Eve. It's going to be this clean,
corporate place. You know, the eminem store will be here, right,
you know what I'm talking about. And uh yeah, they did that,
sure, but take a look at who didn't get their stuff seized. Take
away that story about Giuliani and Lee Roy Nicky Barnes. I've heard it,
yeah, because you can go on YouTube and you can listen to the recording
when Leroy Nicky Barnes makes his phone call to the SDNY and he says,
listen, I want to cooperate with you guys, because what's going on is,
you know, the guy's out there supposed to be doing things for me,
but they're doing things against me. And what happened was his His wife
was outdating one of the guys that worked for him, so he sent some
guys in there to kill them, and instead of killing him, they sat
down and they drank and they partied with him. So Nicky Barnes gets all
pissed off. He has nowhere to go. He goes to Giuliani's crew that's
d n y and he says, listen, these guys supposed to doing things
for me, they're doing things against me. That's the only reason I'm coming
to you. This is on tape, it's on YouTube. Anybody can watch
it. Wow. The next day, two white guys go into that same
nightclub and shoot the guys Nicky Barnes's enemies, no kidding. And then who
goes Giuliani's out to a a press conference out in front like that club.
So don't worry, we're looking at to this. We're gonna find out what's
responsible. Yeah beautiful. Uh yeah, Okay, well that that's interesting.
Do you want to people know that story then? Because you know my partner,
I'm gonna look at his dad was the guy who was the cop who
arrested Nicky Barnes for bribery. Okay, that's a great story too, but
the other life had me have a couple of drinks to say, yeah,
no, look I would I would love to get into that. I mean
that, that whole that whole thing fascinates me. You know, the it
goes way beyond the American Gangster film, you know what I mean, with
with what went on there and tell you the truth. That's That's another thing
that I've started writing my book and I'm rewriting it with a co author when
I come back from Dallas. But you know, there was a point at
which I got introduced to one of the commission members when I was a kid,
you know, yeah, well, yeah, he would be referred to
as the heavier gentleman, you know what I'm saying. Anyways, all he
was concerned with is wisest kid here, and he wanted me to get something
to eat. But that because I was kind of like a gopher, like
a mascot for one of these local wise guys, who, by the way,
I still can't track down what his real name was. I called him
Uncle Joey, and everybody referred to him as Joey, but that was not
his legal name. And he disappeared at a certain point a Jersey based wise
guy who happened to make trips into New York and happened to be in that,
say, the southern part of Harlem, I believe is what the what
he had control over, you know what I'm tyingalking about? Anyways? Yeah,
so right, the guy who would be referred to as fat let's put
it that way. But anyway, there's a whole thing about the heroin moving
in and out of Jersey and all kinds of stuff, because you know,
it's funny. I get to the DEA agents. I don't want to get
the wrong one, but I think it was the one was I don't think
it was the one that was the guy the cop behind the French connection.
I think I answered it a couple that week, and uh I asked him.
I says, what about the CIA smuggling heroin and cocaine. Oh no,
there's no proof of that. Okay, there's nothing to see there been
off it. I say it. He tells this story off the air.
But by the way, you talking about catch and kill not to change the
subject. Yeah, catch and kill. That's my my client, that Keith
Davidson who was involved in a hold, catch and kill with the McDougall and
Stormy's nice. Well, and that's that's the next update I want to get.
Yeah, but to tell you the truth though, I mean, I
was starting to do stuff like, uh, I learned really early how to
cut heroin, Okay is what it was. And yeah, I didn't.
I didn't talk about this for a while, but I felt like it was.
The chapter in the book is called look, the Drug War has child
Soldiers too, Okay, And it all came out. I decided to talk
about it because I had interviewed Ricky Ross and uh, you know, I
talked to him off air a little bit about Hey man, let me ask
you a question. Didn't you find it strange that all of a sudden,
like coast to coast, we all suddenly had the formula how to make ready
rock. Like it was just one of those things that sort of showed up
for us, you know what I mean. It just it's spread seemingly like
simultaneously, even though people in California weren't talking to people in New Jersey,
New York, Connecticut, you know, so on how is it that we
all knew instantly how to turn you know, cocing to rock. You know
what I'm saying, because that was the next thing I learned how to do
when we were doing this in the basements of housing projects, okay, in
rooms that we had set up with you know, we had clean room set
up, Okay, but in the same rooms only a few months before I
was sitting there whacking up heroin. I was bulking out heroin, stepping on
it, you know. But it was just one of those things that I
had a skill for. I could do it, and I could do it
properly. And we were working with stuff. We were working with fentanyl back
in eighty two. Man, I don't understand why people are talking about this
is new. That's interesting. We're just talking to somebody else about this recently,
and they were saying that fentanyls around a long time ago too. Yeah,
I was unaware of it. No, it came to us, those
of us that were there, you know, breaking things down and for redistribution,
right, we had that in eighty two. Fentanyl, who was readily
available, was cheapest hell too. People tell me that it's slightly different now,
and I imagine it is. But we had ventanyl along with the other
stuff, you know, with the QUINEI and all that stuff. There's a
whole bunch of different things. But I'm not going to get directions and I'm
not going to share the information or give somebody recipes here. But what I'm
saying is this has been going on a long time. I found it interesting
though, that me and Ricky Ross could tie it down to like an exact
month. Well really, all of a sudden, I interviewed Ricky Ross too,
you know, a while ago, and I'll tell you something. And
I remember, I forget what I guess it was in the eighties. It
had to be like after nineteen eighty that I was getting the marijuana from the
yippies and used it would used to be commercial Colombian three hundred and fifty pounds.
And these guys have shown me this stuff that's three hundred ounce, you
know. And I took one one head off as like an lyst trip,
and you could see the difference right away. Oh yeah, And I went.
I took some of it back to the guys on Stanton islandho were the
big shots, and I said, look look what I have. I can
get this for you. I can get you all you want. I can
get you, you know, truckloads of this stuff right, and he held
up a twenty dollars quarter quarter pounds right, quarterounds? What was it?
Twenty dollar bad quarterbouns? Right? Yeah? What did they call that quarter
around? Said? Well, back then, I mean, look, you
had eighths usually were about twenty bucks then, I think, right, and
sure, no eight it was forty dollars an ounce, but they used to
call a quote around something twenty dollars and whatever. Anyway, But the thing
is he held up what he says, says, ed, look, you
can have forty joints here for twenty bucks, and you want to charge someone
twenty bucks for five joints and say, no one's gonna buy that. I
was one of those kids selling joints for a dollar back then. It always
by yeah, So I've rolled hundreds of thousands to joints. I was making
thirty hundred weeks in high school. But the thing is, it wasn't until
sixty minutes did a show an episode about Hawaiian marijuana. Look at this Hawaiian
marijuana. It sends similarly, there's no seeds, it's exotic marijuana. And
right after that, everybody wanted Hawaiian And what did I have? I had
this that extensively for three hundred dollars an ounce, and then everybody wanted it
right away. Some people were calling it the Maui Wowie or whatever. But
this was from Mexico. Now, this stuff wasn't from the Hey, look
I just told you what they called it. I'm not telling you what they
were. It was growing. It was that was real, you know,
I'm just saying. But they would call it that. And then the big
thing all of a sudden there and about that time period was no, this
is the hydroponic this is new. This is a new way of growing it.
Remember, oh no, yeah, but that was real too. That
stuff was powerful. Man, when I start growing on stuff indors. By
the way, I just interviewed this guy wrote a book about Tom frassad from
the founder of High Sight Times magazine. I just interviewed him a couple of
weeks ago. The book has chaos on the title, I fear what it's
called, but really interesting stuff. I found out a lot of stuff I
didn't And I know I know all those guys. But by the way,
you know what aj Wemmer told me that he was at George No, he
was at Alan Ginsburg's apartment and Alan Ginsburg gave a bj to George Soros.
What yes, Wow, George Soros was hanging around with those guys. I
would have never known that. I never heard of that. I screenshot it
as I heard this. You know, wow, is that a long story.
But we were talking about, you know, because that was the same
crew with Tom Frasad and all those guys yet be headquarters down on a nine
bleak of the street and dial a joint and all those characters. And I
found a lot of a lot of new stuff. I found that a lot
of stuff in his interview, man, I didn't know before. Is that
what Abby Hoffman was coming back into circulation over there? That that whole thing.
I was there the day he turned himself in. And uh, my
friend, my friend, I used to get my pot from Fred got better?
Who would get it from AJ? And AJ got it from the hippie
mafia Richard Stratton okay, okay, and hit Richard Stratton's one that brought in
all that hash too. I sold a ton of that hash man okay.
And when Abda Abby Hoffman turned himself in, all the press came down to
hippie headquarters on nine Bleika Street and the whole street was covered in press trying
to get a story, and Fred was the yippie spokesperson. So I says,
hey, aren't you going to go talk to them? He goes,
no way, I'm keeping a low profile as you can. Look up.
Fred got better. Man. I love this guy. He was a hero
to me. He told me so much. He died of heroin addiction,
like so many people in those days, and he got on that ergotamine.
You know, he was part of the gotamine project that does reduce the cravings
for heroin. But what happens is, man, is you take one little
hit after that and it kills you. You know, it's like you're,
oh, yeah, it's not like it's not like the blockers, is he
They have blockers today that just makes it so it doesn't work. But they
used to have stuff that made you either violently ill or could kill you unless
you lost your cravings. Man. And but then as soon as you took
me and you're what's that called your resilience to it? You know, your
resistance? Yeah, you're you're yeah, you're resistant. So you're what do
you call yeah that word? Yeah, But it's so it's so reduced that
you took one at ahead of heroine that would kill you say he overdosed on
heroin. Man, Yeah, ah man, brilliant guy too, and everybody
who knew him and talked about him loved him. Well. Look, and
I saw the introduction of and I didn't work with it. I never worked
with the what they call meths today, you know, but but back then
it was crank. And yeah, that was another thing that was just there
were labs all over in Jersey, and not just in North Jersey either,
but there was plenty in North Jersey, but there were labs all up and
down the coast that it was a matter of going in and working with I'll
just give you is working with Sealerno's people, Okay, to get the heroin
uh, you know, cocaine. I never knew exactly where that came from,
except it was somebody out of Florida. That's all I ever knew about
that. But it arrived and we had to work with it, and we
suddenly had the recipe for you know, base or ready rock, which later
on people called crack. Okay, uh, but that stuff was in our
hands around the same time again that the uh you know that this ventanyl was
and that's why I was surprised when I saw a fentanyl show up in legitimate
you know, pharmaceuticals later because I didn't. I wasn't aware of that until
like maybe the early two thousands, and all of a sudden, people were
saying, yeah, they make these ventanyl patches, and like, I wasn't
in that business at that point, you know, because I was doing that
as a kid to survive. But by the time I'm an adult, I'm
hearing about guys that are turning around and you know, getting you know,
boxes falling off of trucks there with fentanyl patches in it, you know what
I'm saying. And they were taking strips, right, they some kind of
strips and they would take them and they would actually take the fentanyl back out
of the patch and put it in because it was like dirt cheap to do
it and you could put it back into. So the heroin supply in the
early two thousands had some of this in it too, but it was this
repurposed crap from the patches and then somebody else. But but we used to
get that from, you know, out of Philly. That was part of
the trade that went on with the Pagans, because the Pagans got into the
crank business, right, and so they were in the crank business. Crack
was just everybody's game and the heroin. Like I said, you had to
get it out of Harlem. I used to make many trips to Harlem,
and my first trip to Harlem I remember clearly in seventy eight. I was
six years old, first time going through there. It's a whole weird story
anyway, But the point is that a lot of this stuff that people think
is brand new is not new. And you used to have much larger networks
now. The reason why I bring all this up is because Nicky Barnes and
all those people that was all that stuff that was involved before, right,
So it was sort of like still working off at the back of that and
still getting whatever the Sicilians were getting out of that. Wherever their supply was
coming from was massively supplying like the whole I don't know Northeast pretty much at
Harlem. So anyway, it's just it's just one of those things. But
like I said, commiserating with Ricky Ross made me realize that, you know
what, we all got the same information. It was like urban chemistry got
shared simultaneously across the whole country. And it wasn't like, oh, of
course gang bangers talk to each other and stuff. I got nothing to do
with gang bangers on the West Coast. But yet the same month, I've
got that information that somebody's teaching me how to do it in a basement,
in a tenement in Jersey, that he's learning out there on the West Coast.
Except he was a smarter business guy. You know. I was just
a kid, but he was, you know, older than me, and
he knew how to you know, organized business. He had it coming in
so quick, he didn't know how to get rid of it. He was
starting to set up distribution everywhere, you know, you know, the Ricky
Ross story, inside and out right, quite outside and out. But I
had him on the show years ago. Yeah, well, I mean enough
to know that what I'm saying to you sounds George Webb, Yeah, George
web Well, Gary Webb, Gary Webb, Yeah, Gary Webb. Hey,
you know what, man, real quick, We've only got a couple
of minutes left. I would like to pay tribute to Daniel Hopsick, who
just passed away, you know, and the last interview I did with him,
he really went into the whole Gary web thing, how much he admired
Gary Webb and what an influence it was on his life too. And so
we you know, uh Dennis Daniel, Hopsicker Daniel, all that stuff,
barrying the boys, the Muhammad Anta's flying circus, you know, all the
work he's done on the on the the flight schools down there in Venice,
the nine to eleven flight schools, all that incredible work. Man, I
tell you, you know, when I learned about his work and I read
all his stuff before I ever did a radio show, I said, if
you know, this is the kind of people I want to have on the
show, you know. And I had him on like the first ten shows.
And he had never done a show before, he had done one show.
But he got well, he got spooked by them, you know that
they were just so crazy, and he had done like one YouTube thing,
you know. So I got him, Hue Man, We got him on
the record, and then we became friends. I had him on ten times
over the years, all great stuff. Man looking into voting machines that did
great work, and we lost them this year. You know, one of
these old reliable sober characters, man out there doing really good, hard reporting
and taking the consequences for it, and they assued many times, and you
had brutal cancer at the end, you know. So I just would like
to you know, I've been asked a few times to go on shows and
do a tribute to Daniel Hopsiker, and this was my first opportunity to talk
about him. No. Look, great great stuff that he put out,
you know, And you could argue with a lot of stuff you know that
anybody puts out, obviously, but the truth is that, you know,
this is the type of thing that you know, guys like Doug Valentine have
done great work on. And I mean I just heard from him today.
Yeah, yeah, Daniel, how's he doing, by the way, because
he was not doing too well last times. And the problem I'm trying to
get him on the show, but the problem is I don't see him,
Like right now, I don't have a camera on this computer with the microphone
hooked into so you have to do it with which we can read your lips,
you know, yes, right, yeah, But he's written that great
book that just came out, you know, the new book by Doug Hunton.
It just came out just a very very recently I got a copy over
here. Okay, you're looking to see what the title is. Yes,
I am, because I have a very bad memory. Yeah right, Valentine
Miquen, Oh no, not that one. Pisce's Moon, The Dark Arts
of Empire and uh yeah, he was just contacting me today talking about too
about this. Yeah. I know you don't want to talk about it either,
but this is really a genocide going on, and how this is textbook
Project Phoenix, you know. Yeah, well, okay, so that's the
uh okay, uh places Moon? That one, The Dark Arts of Empire.
Yeah, I was, yeah, a blind guy trying to read on
the fly. Whats moon? Uh? Yeah? Dark? Uh what is
it? Let's see the Dark Arts. Let me click on this thing and
go to it. The Dark Arts of Empire right by Doug Valentine. That
that's the new one. Huh yep, that's a brand new how off the
press that just came out? Uh yeah, well no, I was just
mentioning that, you know, stuff by him, you know, Powder Burns
by Sally Castillo. I mean, all this stuff on the drug war is
extremely important. He uh, what do you call it? Uh? Daniel
got into the uh the hasson Puss story and all that too, Right which
one not that? Which which the CIA pilot guy? Oh yeah, definitely?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I'm just saying, I mean,
this is the guy who was doing a lot of work for a long time
on stuff like that. And I would just say, you know, if
you're familiar with Ricky Ross and Sally Castillo and Doug Valentine, you should also
be familiar with with Daniel's work. Right that was Castillo still alive? Yeah?
Yeah, absolutely, because I was supposed to get him through Danny Romero.
Is Danny Ramar's life as far as I know. Okay, But if
you want Selley's number, I give you Selley's number one or done? Yeah,
I think I text his number, I called his number, I left
it for him. But if you want to put in a little recommendation for
me there, you know what I can get for you. If you want
who's that chewing on shaman? You know what? I would talk to him
what? But But let me just ask you this is he is he still
like committed to that whole thing? Is he still like all in? Yeah?
He is. He's a He's a nice guy though, man, He's
a sincere guy, crazy you know, I asked my question about a h
a wolf or something like that, or and he went on forever Yellow Selly
went on forever. Okay, Okay. But the thing is it's funny because
he came on my show and he says, yeah, I'm still for Trump,
you know, because he had it says in his Wikipedia he had abandoned
Trump and his lawyer said he was no longer supporting Trump. Comes on my
show he has offered Trump. Three months later, t see Cunan Shaman,
step a Trump, no mention of the poor, Edimns, the Rodney Dangerfield
of radio. This happens to you, I was gonna say before, this
happens to you a lot, doesn't it, because there's been a bunch of
times where like I remember a couple of years, no more than a couple
of years ago, probably five six years ago, you were on my show
and you mentioned something, and the next thing I know is like maybe a
week later, it was this breaking headline and like you you were like sending
me a text on Skype like damn it, you see this, look at
this. And I was like, oh wow, yeah, you mentioned that
on my show. Like I had the Bill Clinton mistress came on and said
that Hillary Clinton had had an abortion or maybe it was two abortions after Chelsea
was born, and then Rush Limbo says it then he has it's kind of
not mine anymore. Another one was Joe Scarborough was talking about my Steve Banning
porn and meth house, about the padlocks on the inside of the house.
No one talked about that before and stuff, right, the band and stuff
was part of this one time too with you where it was like, wait
a minute, you just told all this stuff on my show, but like
it was like a month later before, uh, I know, before it
was like, oh look according to it was like no, not bright part.
What do you call it? The other guy, the guy who never
changed this stuff and died, the guy who still got like the nineteen ninety
five version of his website up. What's his name? Oh that Trudge?
Yeah, yeah, Drudge. It goes on Drudge and they're like Drudge revealed
and I'm like, Drudge revealed. Opperman had it on, uh three weeks
ago, what are you talking about? Well, like I said, we
did the first show on epstein Man with Robert Morrow. That's the only guest
I could find that even knew the name Jeffrey Epstein back in twenty thirteen.
Nobody knew the name. See, that was something that I was talking to
just real fast because that lawsuit is still ongoing, right, And I saw
a settlement not too long ago with the banks and all this, and I
got Pierce redmon On and we were sitting there talking about you actually and saying,
you know what it wasn't for like Ed Opperman would have never known about
this. And then it becomes this massive headline and I'm waiting for Opperman to
pop up on TV next because he had all this stuff that they're like digging
around, going, oh, we found out about this, and I'm like,
yeah, I knew that. I know that woman's name. They're like,
we know for the first time, here's a victim showing up at Glen
Maxwell's trial and all this other stuff. And I'm going all these all these
different you know, documentaries and everything coming out. Nobody, nobody went to
Opperman, what's going on? That's a good question. It makes you wonder,
right, you know what I was gonna say. But let me tell
you some Stephen Hoffenberg, who was Jeffrey Epstein's original partner back there a Tower
Financial and you know, okay, you know it's a scam. It was
a Ponzi scheme, you know, And but he was left holding the bag.
Everybody else skated. Rudy Giuliani was the Tower Financial corporate attorney, paid
one million dollars a year. You can google from night and day. You're
not gonna find that anywhere on Google. But Steven Hoffenberg wrote that check and
Steven hoffbuk told me that information on tape on my show several times, so
it's no doubt about the accuracy. Well, and that's that's the wild thing
with you is, like I said, you're always ahead of the curve.
Which, by the way, if you were to be able to get to
Dallas, okay in November from the seventeenth to the nineteenth, because I really
hope that you're gonna post this on your operaman feed, you can put it
on Patreon, whatever you want to do with it, because it's gonna be
a free show out to my listeners as well. But if somebody's in Dallas
and they want to come meet me, I'm gonna be at the jfk L
Answer Conference from the seventeenth to the nineteenth, and I'm promoting that all this
month. I've got some interesting guests. I'm gonna have John Newman on you
know, this coming week, and I've had plenty of interesting guests recently about
it. But I'm gonna be the MC of that conference and kind of running
breakout rooms, panels, the media room, all this stuff going on.
Because it's the sixtieth anniversary of the execution of John F. Kennedy there in
public in Dallas, Texas in nineteen sixty three. It also happens to be
the tenth anniversary of the Ocelli Effect. So I'm going to be giving out
goodies for anybody who comes into support and meet me there at the conference.
Hell, if you want to meet me outside the conference, get in touch
with me. And if you just happen to be in Dallas, you know,
I'll sign something for you or get you an Ocelli Effect hat or whatever.
If you're a supporter of the show, or you're somebody who's you know,
interested and wants to go check out the conference, by all means,
come on in and do that. Because there are loads of speakers going to
be there and I'm going to be introducing everybody, and again there's going to
be panel discussions. Like I said, John Newman will be there, a
whole bunch of other guys, some well known, and the youngest guy I've
ever seen give a presentation, a guy who's fourteen years old, who I'm
actually satisfied is well versed in the photographic evidence in the case. That's a
rarity right there, I'll tell you that. And the youngest presenter I've ever
seen at a conference, a fourteen year old guy named Alex Harris, is
going to do a presentation there on the Dallas Cinema Associates film. But anyway
of interesting stuff coming up there. There's a lawsuit still ongoing with the Biden
administration regarding the JFK records and the crap that we've been handed so far and
all that documentation we've been through. Just want to let your listeners know that,
and of course remind mine once again about it. Explain to me again
what is It's called the Lancer JFK Lancer. It is a conference. It's
a twenty seventh conference that's been held by JFK Lancer and it'll actually be at
the Lorenzo Hotel in Dallas, Texas from the seventeenth to the nineteenth of November,
so that's Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and I'm taking a road
trip there. And if anybody feels like chipping into my well being as I
go and all that, yeah, I still need gas money and everything,
but supporting the network will also allow me to do stuff like get some special
presentations. I'm planning on filming stuff, et cetera, et cetera. So
yeah, there's a lot going on there. And how would people if they
wanted to support this, how would they do that? Oh? Yeah,
well they can go. They can sign up for either if you're not going
to be in Dallas, you can actually sign up for a virtual conference as
well. I'll get i'll boot you and i'll exchange links. But if you
go to JFK Lancer Publications dot com, I believe I'll double check that real
fast and while I'm talking to here, but yeah, JFK Lancer Publications dot
com. You can get there. I'll give you a link and if you
want to include it with your with your show notes whatever, when you decide
to post this, Okay, I'd be real grateful if you are. As
a matter of fact, I'm gonna make an announcement right now at this JFK
Lancer conference. Okay, if you want to me check Ocelly. I will
be lurking on the grasso. Okay, you can come there and look for
me. If you find me, you will get a prize. How's that?
Okay? What's the date for this Lancer thing again? Seventeenth to the
nineteenth of November of November, that's correct, and it's yeah. JFK Lancer
Publications dot Com is where you can go. And yeah, I mean there's
and it's three days, like I said. And there's a lot of Brent
Holland, Bill Simpitch, Bart Camp, I'm listed there, David Boylan,
Larry Hancock, a whole bunch of researchers, Stu Wexler, Vince Paul Meyra,
Robert Nelson, Rob Clark, Rex Bradford, you know, so on
and so forth, a lot of people. If you know the case,
well, let me ask you this. I just interviewed somebody recently who mentioned
the JFK Lancer and Jeff Lancer Publications dot com. Okay, and it was
either John Hanky or it was that fellow who wrote that book about the Fuzzy
Picture of Oswald in the doorway. Yeah. Bart Camp would be that bar
Camp and John Hankey was on your show recently. I think Hanky one time
presented at Lancer a long time ago. It's bart Camp. Okay, I
just had bart Camp. That was a great show too, and a very
interesting book. This guy's got some's counting the hairs on the head. Yeah,
this fuzzy bigfoot photo of the background. Well, he's doing a presentation
at Lancer on this topic and I planned to ask him question and I'll be
introducing them. So there you go. And I just gave you a link
there to the JFK answer conference. Like I said, if you look on
Facebook, it's there too, and I'll be tweeting about it and putting it
out on Facebook all the way up to when I hit the road on the
fifteenth, because I'm going to be driving with my my Friday Night co host
there. We're going to drive there from Georgia here to Texas. So not
sure how long that takes, and obviously I won't be doing the driving.
So Texas is a big state. Man takes a long time drafting Texas.
It does, it does, But I don't know. He seems to think
we can do it in twelve hours from making It's about right. I don't
know, all right? So yeah, yeah too bad man. If I
would have more notice, I would have maybe take a road trip with you.
They say they would have been fine. Listen, I would have loved
it if you if you feel like it, I mean, you know,
we could we could sort of sort something out. Let me know off air,
think about it. Whatever. Yeah, it would It would take a
miracle. And I just had a big, big job. I could have
made some big money the other day. But then go through so JFK Answer
Productions November seventeenth to the ninth. I think meet Chuck o'celly. Look in
the grassy and the home you white spot at Opperman. You have to look
carefully. And here's the thing. If you go there and you tell me
that you know you showed up from this show or whatever, guaranteed, I'll
give you something for free, bumper stick or pen pen something. I have
t shirts a few other things with me. I'm not something for free.
No, no, no, that would be something I did when I all
a young boy and I was just trying to so big and be useful to
the to the insane. Adults around me. So that was something I did
as a kid. Okay, it's just uh nice, hey man, hey,
we all you know, we all have a past ed. What what
are you working on currently that you can talk about in public though? Any
anything you want to remind my listeners about? Uh not really, But I
did want to say one last thing about Hoffenberg. All this litigation you see
in the Virgin Islands to none of this, all this suing these banks and
JP Morgan and all that crap, but that none of that would be happening
if it wasn't for Stephen Hoffenberg who initiated all of that. Man. People
only realize what this guy did, even the lawsuits in the Virgin Islands,
because that's a weird situation where they're going after you know, and I read
it the way I read it is, I mean, you got two banks
route have settled for something like was it seventy five million dollars or something?
Right? Well, yeah, but even before that though, that's where the
Epstein Trust was was down on the Virgin Islands, right, and they the
Virgin Islands of Denise George went after that trust and well there was so much
corruption, man, Okay, look up the Butterfly Trust with these guys Darren
and Dyke and Richard Kahan. They had their because they're the executives of this
estate, and they had their wives set up the Butterfly Trust and get paid
ten million dollars. Okay, all of this is out in the open.
All this is known by all the prosecutors down there and stuff like that.
They were all got their little hands in the pie. Uh. And then
the whole big story about how Biden went down there Christmas week and suddenly Denise
George was fired. No, that's that wasn't about that at all. Okay,
it was about money. Well that's about money, but anyway, and
then later on came the is the JP Morgan by the way, on JP
Morgan Chase is the company that runs the food stamp uh with these EBT cards.
Okay, they got a cut of every EBT transaction. And they still
have to do that after they've been openly caught here fronting for Epstein and nobody
says a damn word about it. Well, and they what they handle there
is the Department of Agricultural Credit System, which is technically not money. That's
the weirdest thing about it, right, is that it's technically not money,
but somehow it get turns into money. It's it's really fascinating, right because
and JP Morgan is integally involved in y. That's fascinating. I can understand
maybe the Agriculture Department can do that, but how do they have a private
industry create money and then profit from it. Yeah, they're saying they're creating
money out of a credit applied from the Department of Agriculture. I mean,
and nobody questions it. It's it's the most bizarre thing. Just that if
it's running normally, no, no Epstein, no nothing, you should be
questioning this. Why does this work this way? And also for listeners of
the Ocelli effect, if you go to patreon dot com slash Opperman Report all
one word together Opperman Report and Opperman has two p's in case you were wondering
the uh it's not the Opperman Report. Patreon dot com, Patreon dot com
slash Opperman Report. Go there, sign up. Guess what. I am
a patron there and definitely agree that Ed's work needs to be heard. And
it's cheap. I think I'm signed up for like three bucks. Okay,
Uh, just saying I don't I don't have a big budget for stuff,
but it's well worth it. You plunk down even three bucks, you're gonna
get plenty out of Ed's Patreon and look, buy his books, go to
his website. Oppermanreport dot Com is still running right, Oh yeah, And
like I said, so even on Patreon, it's a lot of free stuff.
I put up free stuff all the time, court documents and all stuff,
tons of free content on that. So you just check it out whenever
you can. Yeah, absolutely, and I recommend it highly. And of
course not just because Ed's my but he's often in the middle of a whole
lot of Some people call it shenanigans, but sometimes it is shenanigans. Sometimes
it's very serious works. Yeah, sometimes it's you know, it's awfully greasy.
And like I always say, though, I'll tell you what, if
I ever end up in a divorce court though, and somebody hires Ed Opperman
in opposition against me, I'm gonna be really really pissed, and I'm gonna
give up, first of all, because hell of a private investigator, hell
of a podcaster, and uh happy to call him my friends. So,
guys, no matter who you are, where you are, when you are.
I want you to remember that I am merely O'Kelly, and all of
you are the effect.