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You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio
Network, the best in paranormal talk radio

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in the UK and around the world. There are more than one hundred motion

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pictures made in Hollywood every year.
Ninety percent of them are bonds, but

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ten percent are not. In film
school. These movies are called blockbusters,

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but there's a better term for how
they're made. X Files. Join Mac

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in the gang as they explore the
dark secrets behind lights, camera action,

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and the unexplainable success of no talent
punks like Quentin Tarantino, All coming from

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the weirdest place on Earth, Hollywood. This is Mac Maloney's Hollywood X Files,

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and now here's Mac. Well.
Good evening everyone, I'm welcome to

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Macaloney's Hollywood X Files here on the
Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Mac

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maloney one. What the show we
have for you tonight, Bob as always,

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girls, please sit down, get
get your big box of Kleenex,

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your big box of wipes. You
squeegeee in yallou because the very famous one

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one is here. Wannie, Hello
Mac, Hello, ladies and gentlemen,

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all ships at sea, Hello girls, especially you guys. Welcome to the

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Hollywood X File Show. Tonight.
It's going to be a good one,

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hope. So, and I'm glad
you're all here, and I'm glad to

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be here mac as you know,
I love for this. Yes, So,

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fourteenth week in a row here,
glad to be anywhere? Actually,

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fourteenth week in a row. Did
you have fish and chips in the past

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seven days? No chips, but
no fish? Holy Cow's like being in

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China and not eating Chinese food.
What's the matter. They're going to lock

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me up pretty soon. I'm not
consuming that really, Yeah, they would

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do that, Yeah, for sure. You know it's a nanny steak.

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We could take a photo of you
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go. Just make sure that you
have five fingers, not six. Listen,

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if you could, if I could
ask you one real quickly, reallyquickly,

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tell me the story you told me
the other day on the phone about

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how the UK is training into a
nappy state. Can to tell that story

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in thirty seconds? Yeah? Well, the government is you know, the

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government does everything and is involved in
everything over here in the UK. Apparently

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there's a problem in the junior level
schools, you know, the grade schools

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we call here in America. Okay, where kids are not properly party trained,

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then you're playing simple not bathroom trained. Okay, yes, not everyone,

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but a lot enough of them where
it's a crisis. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, that's not a good crisis
to have. No, it's it's it's

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the nappy crisis. And they rely
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the teachers to partty train these kids. When does this bullshit end? I

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mean when they don't have enough time
to do regular instructions with all the other

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stuff that they have to do.
Well, being married to teacher, I

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can understand anyway, thank you.
You're hipped to all that. I am

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his responsibility, and it's it's getting
pretty bad. You know, the teachers

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haven't bought into it yet. It
hasn't really been implemented. Yeah, but

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and then and then the parents are
saying, well, hey, it should

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be up to the parents. Well, no kidding, get with it.

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Draw the line. It's like if
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dog has to be house trained.
If a kid goes to school, he's

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got to be plonty trained or he
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I'm sorry anyway, let's just switch
in goo to switch How about that

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national correspondent. Switch late Steve Water
is with us down. They're in West

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Virginia somewhere, switchy. It's a
pleasure to be here tonight. Man,

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Okay, let's look at the hair. I get no comment tonight. Yeah,

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Raven has given the kind of cut
sign. Yeah it's I don't know.

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It looks fake, but it looked
fake last week, So okay,

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switch everything okay with you? Everything
is beyond wonderful. No club tonight,

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but with us, Oh in the
studio with us is ufo mechanic Alan Now

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I don't know, oh imacla everyone. Okay, everything okay with you?

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Yeah, usual flooding and craziness or
the Northeast. Yeah, the Northeast.

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If anyone doubts global warming, come
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A little dip in the road at
the thirsty moves tonight. But that's okay.

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That means we'll be good. Yeah, yeah, a little surprise,

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A little dip in the road.
Well we'll talk about it. I no

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surprise behind the bar. We'ment expecting
anyway. Also with us is our favorite

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good witch there is our favorite is
our favorite good witch up there in sideways

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And yeah, raving is raving?
How are you? Hi'm my friends,

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Thanks for having me. You look
very film noir again tonight, But you

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look like you're in black and white? Is that the idea? Yeah?

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You know, I decided to go
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a Victorian child that wasn't going to
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favorite TV show tonight, okay,
anywhere? All right? I will include

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that also because we have to have
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Chicago is doctor Bob Gross, doctor
Bob? Hello? Everyone? I dressed

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like a doctor that's not going to
make it through the winter. Wow?

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What on this took a turn?
Yeah? It's seventy one degrees here in

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Chicago? Is it really? That
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like sixty five here in the day
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love that, you know. Oh
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not have any snow this year.
Think about that. We had like,

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wow, four inches. Yeah,
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not real cold right, yeah,
global warming. But the bad side

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is is that there are communities around
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a fairly well known place and it's
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of damage in January and flooded again
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inside, but the Coma has flooded
the beach Coma and Implomi and flooded out

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for a month. They sold it
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on Sunday because there was a h
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So we're going to introduce one one. Have you introduce your buddy Trevor

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hre sure H. And Trevor's been
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over forty years. Forty years yep, time flies, I know.

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So I know Trevor from way back, and we enjoyed talking movies all the

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time. I'm not going to tell
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is, but in any event,
Trevor is a digital media producer yes wow

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st Out of Massachusetts who specializes in
cinematography, live event videography, editing,

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and podcast production. He's also notorious
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and television shows. I'm really serious
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okay, all right, yeah,
he is in your face. Okay,

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thanks for joining us. Let's clap
them in. Let's clap them in

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because we may never see him again. Thank you, Jeff, thank you,

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thank you all for having me.
I will railroad all of your opinions

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really on the show. Okay,
we'll see him about that. So listen.

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We've introduced everybody now, so now
it's time for Top ten. We're

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doing to Top ten tonight, and
it'll be obvious why Raven can't read them.

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But we have a special guest calling
in to read the top ten tonight.

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This is we're going to have to
clap him onto and it's going to

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have to be sustained applause. This
is Al Ferrari, the main character in

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Max's new book, How to Dumble
Body At See You and Not Get Caught

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Alfar. Now he's in the Witness
Protection Program. If you read the book

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you will know why. But he's
a region close the location. There you

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go, and he's uh appears to
be wearing a mask or something, but

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he's incognito. Al how are you
tonight? How are you tonight? I'm

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good, I'm good. Okay,
your name is Al Ferrari. Do you

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drive a Ferrari by any chance,
I wish. Yeah, okay, I

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had one, but I had to
sell it to that guy man who made

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that movie. Yeah. Listen,
So how do you feelaker you are the

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character of a of a book,
best selling book, hopefully, how do

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you feel has your life changed?
My life never changes. It's always perfect.

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Oh really yeah, just like switchy. Well, listen when we get

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to this and you know, get
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this is top ten Top ten,
Yes, Top ten reasons why Raven should

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rule the world. Top ten reasons
why Raven should rule the world by Al

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Ferrari, main character man how a
double body seeing? Please? Oh?

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Number ten? Number ten. While
she would deport all cat haters, she

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would deport them to some nice Caribbean
island. Nine. Pretend we've heard the

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I hang on, pretend we've heard
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Go ahead, Number nine please.
Number nine. She would investigate Mac,

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the infamous Mac Maloney, to see
if he actually went to film school.

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All right, Oh, okay,
that report, I thank you,

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switchy wow a two, switch a
two. I'm waiting for that knock of

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the door. Actually, Number eight
please. Her dog Scotch would become head

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of the Alcoholics Beverage Commission. Right, She's ruling the world now, so

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she can do anything. What about
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I see what you did there,
mister Ferrari. I'm glad you can see

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it. Number seven she would lift
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Massachusetts. Yes, yes, we'd
have to fight that. I love I'm

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wearing birking Stocks right now, don't
wow. Number six she would make buns.

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Now, this is very controversial because
we're not sure what kind of buns

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she means here, but she would
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I think they all had buns already. I think she's talking about buns

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up top, not at the bottom. Okay, well, I'm not talking

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about bacon because I cannot do that, but buns up top. Okay,

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all right. Number five she would
order a massive research program to bring Princess

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Died back to life. Oh my
gosh, yes, I would, and

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we would go. We would also
go to Limelight. I would make Limelight

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in New York City a thing again, and we would go and party.

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For sure. Our reason for bringing
back Princess Die is that? So one

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one can finally find happiness again,
exactly, and we could all go to

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Limelight together. Yes, Princess,
so perfect, Go ahead, proclaim Uncle

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Al's bees as the best bees in
the history of the freaking universe. Right

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now, he didn't some of Uncle
Al today. I don't want to do

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this perfect it's length, Okay,
yes, it is very good, honey.

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Next, please, this is She
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get switched safely out of West Virginia. Drop you a couple of bridges from

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there. Don't worry, you're right, Go ahead. Two. She would

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include deer from the government's daily recommended
nutrition shot for children. Yell a little,

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a little controversial, and the number
one reason Raven should rule the world.

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She would declare April thirty first as
lonely Larry Day just shot him the

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up. Let's clap for l because
wonderful Alferrari don't want very much. Why

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don't we do this in the mail? Yeah, there you go, Yeah,

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sure is. The ig is in
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don't we do this? Why don't
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we'll be right back after this.
You're listening to Macaloney's militarck sound shot here

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in the distant done that radio never
please stay tuned. Hey Mac maloney fans,

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this is Pistol Pete and I'm sitting
here with the one and only Mac

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Maloney. Hi Mac, hi peig. Now, Mac, you've got a

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new book out called how to Dump
a Body at Sea and Not Get Caught

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that you wrote with our pal,
famous crime novelist Mark Zappula. How did

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this whole thing come about? Well, Mac and I have this mutual friend

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that we would go out having beers
with every once in a while, and

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he had the same twenty stories that
he would tell us kind of over and

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over again, and at some point
I said, you know, we should

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write these down, and we did
and it turned into a book. It's

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such a crazy title. How'd you
come up with it? Well, kind

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of the same thing we're in about
talking to this friend of oz one night

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and he just said, you know, how to get rid of a Body

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at Sea? And I get taught, And of course we didn't know,

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and so he told us and the
secret is in the book. But I

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can say that it involves a lot
of chainling fence and some crabs. Now,

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Mac, you gave me an advance
copy of the book, and like

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I said before, it's one of
the funniest things I've ever read. It

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reminded me of The Sopranos if the
Sopranos had a laugh track. Thanks Peter.

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But it also gives you instructions on
how to do some pretty shady stuff,

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stuff not exactly legal. Well.
Yeah, the book is about the

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true life adventures of a druvenile Delinklent
growing up in Boston in the late nineteen

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eighties, so you get a lot
of the inside stuff like the best way

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to steal a CA, best way
to burn ACA, how to make fake

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IDs, things like that. But
in one chapter you actually tell people how

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to turn an old, broken down
Toyota into a brand new Rolls Royce in

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five easy steps. And it actually
works. Yeah. I know it sounds

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crazy. I didn't believe it until
I saw the proof, but yes,

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it actually works. Now, one
last question. There's a lot of laughs

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in the book, but also a
lot of pretty crazy stuff, legal and

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illegal. Is it really all true. It's really all true, but on

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the advice of a publisher, they've
asked us not the same thing beyond that

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for legal reason. But yes,
it is altru Well, thanks Mac.

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That's how to dump a body at
sea and not get caught. The al

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Ferrari story by Mac and crime writer
Mark Zippula. Get it today on Amazon.

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Welcome back in What's macloney Hollywood X
Files? Here on the Just a

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Thunder Radio network. This is Mac
Maloney, Wow with the show we have

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for you tonight talking about Hollywood TV
stuff like that. Let me quickly introduce

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the members of the Platic Girls.
You know he's here across the puddle,

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every fame, just one one,
Ella mackl everybody. Yes, I'm here,

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and thanks for having me on the
show again. We appreciate us.

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Okay, just in one word,
yes, and no is Princess Kate all

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right? Do you fear for her
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right now, the scuttle butt is
nobody knows for sure. After that fiasco

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with the with the picture alleged doctored
photograph and but we want this proof of

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life. Yeah, and then the
princess being videoed holding up a clock with

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a date and time on it actually
ticking a newspaper. She's saying something like

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help me hello commoners. Yes,
I like her. I like her.

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She looks like Penthouse in nineteen ninety
two one song. Right. She's a

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good looking woman, no doubt about
it. So here's the other side story

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that was that Harry and Harry and
Megan are like ragging on this wall situation

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and they're saying this was Megan would
never screwed up, like really yeah,

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yeah, she knows her stuff.
Yeah, those two not to get into

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this, but those two miscalculated,
those two. They did. They thought

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they were going to be like American
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be like American entertainment celebrities with shows
and stuff like that. And whether the

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Palace did it to them a what? But they just you know, when

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you drive up the spic of the
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you know, Wanta Bee, you
know what I mean? Right,

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I don't think you're shirting for money, but it's a little bit different than

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be kind of you know, noticed
and revelent, relevant and stuff like that.

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So anyway, there goes the last
of our British listeners. So why

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not Also with us is our national
correspondent Switch place, Steve Wood, Switchy,

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great to be here. Let's kind
of diabolical to get that cat out

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of Get the cat out of the
Frank Mac gets marsupial, trust me,

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is it really Yeah, he's like
doctor Evil. No, no, it

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looks like Arn Stravo Blowfelt. He
never gets right exactly and Bond I've been

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expecting you. Switch Everything okay with
you? Everything is wonderful. Yeah,

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okay, except you have a cat
in your eye. Get that. It's

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just a it's just a piece of
tail. Don't worry about the uh anyway.

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Yeah, wow, let me take
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Switchy, can you help serious?
Also in the studio with us tonight your

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pullman camp gall now wow, hey
Machelo. Everyone, everything okay with you?

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And the bees? Yeah, wife's
just moving along, waiting for spring,

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waiting for the warm weather. Now. I saw a honey bee flying

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around the other day. Could that
be yours? A scout? A scout?

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Yeah, one of the hives is
out and about buzzy. Yeah,

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that's good, okay good. Also
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there, and so I was graving
is with us him? My friends,

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Thank you so much for having me
Okay, the show will be over by

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the time I got the introductions done, but yours is the most important.

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You look very film noir tonight.
They really got to go on as far

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as the mood of the show,
even though we're doing TV right, sure,

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yeah, okay, all right,
you get the beanie. You get

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the beanie on the that's the hat, right, you have a bun?

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No, my hair is down.
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done. You asked me to ask
her, but she's got a pom pom

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on the hat. The hat.
Nope, no beanie. Wow. Okay,

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if you got the film more than
going on, you have to be

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in black and white. That's how
I see her in black and white.

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Uh, everyone else out there,
paint your own picture. Thank you Raven

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for joining us. Also, we
need a doctor, and there's one here,

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Doctor Bob Grows. How you doing
hellover one? It's great to be

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here in all me Chicago, to
see all of you again. I can't

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believe it's that warm. Have anyone
I wish with that Lake Michigan bellowing cold

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air. Usually I'm only six miles
from the airport, so there's propellers push.

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That's good, Okay, that's nice
clean air too. That's excellent.

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Thank you for joining us, Doctor
Bob, how everything to be here with

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all of the film night tonight?
Yeah yeah, film TV everything. Yeah.

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Okay, you watch a lot of
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don't have a TV anymore. Oh
but I'll tell you that's one of those

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great guests for the show. At
the TV show, somebody throw it out

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the window, right, you can
tell us what you Okay, that's good.

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That's cool though. Man, all
right, let me introduce it with

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us. Also with us is our
good friend, new good friend, Trevor,

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who is a media guy, filmmaker. He's in Boston. Trevor,

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how you doing. I'm doing very
well. Thank you, thanks for having

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me on the show. Okay,
you get rid of the cat? That's

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good? Or is that what you're
petting? No? No, the cat.

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The cat's on the lap now she
came back, Okay, all right.

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Trevor went to film school too.
Yeah. Where'd you go to film

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school there? Uh? I couldn't
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went to Keen State College, which
actually had a very good film program,

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but wasn't a very good school.
Yeah. Yeah, I was lucky enough

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I got to intern with Ken Burns
for a bit while he's just making the

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Jazz documentary. Oh really, Yeah, he's an asshole, right, just

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tell us the truth. He's a
fun He's an asshole, isn't he not?

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Not in my experience of him,
But he was very strange. Okay,

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it sounds like and I was.
I was more excited to work with

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his editor, Paul Barnes, because
Paul had directed this, I mean,

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had edited this incredible documentary for Errol
Morris called The Fin Blue Line, which

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is one of the very very few
films that literally saved a man's life.

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Yeah that's yeah, that's an excellent
movie. Wait, the Fin Blue Line?

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You edited? That? Is that
what you said? No? No,

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no, But I got to work
with Paul Barnes, who edited,

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Okay, yeah, cool, and
he edited. He was the head editor

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for Jazz. So yes, I
was working for Ken Burns, but I

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was really more excited to work with
Paul Barnes. His work in that film

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got a man, an innocent man, off of death row, literally one

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of the very very few examples of
a film in history saving a person's life.

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Yeah that's cool, and the film
is a masterpiece on top of it.

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So it's nice. Yeah, it
was a great experience. How long,

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oh is that twenty five years ago? Yeah, twenty five years.

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He looks like he's streaking eighteen.
How old is this? I know I'm

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almost fifty really yeah, yeah,
okay, anyway, wow. Also with

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us is super literary agent Jim Frankel, which we also have to clap fall

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because he's known to pop. Jim, how are you doing. I'm good,

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I'm good, and I'm glad to
be here. I love talking about

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movies. I'm in the middle of
negotiations for two, not one, but

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two different film deals. Really,
so yeah, yeah, graduations. You

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know, I have somebody I work
with on the left coast. But yes,

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you know, it's it's a strange
time, you know. At the

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same time, hell's a poppin with
films because of the five months when nobody

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was technically doing any work on anything. Yeah, the strike, because the

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strike. But at the same time, you know, writers were writing,

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whether they admitted it or not.
Actors weren't acting, but the writers were

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writing. And so there's a lot
of property being bandied about right now.

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And I got my fingers into a
couple of them that look like we're going

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to make deals. Okay, that's
good to hear. I want to ask

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you anymore. I'll go to sleep
tonight. You won't ask me anymore anyway.

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I have another film connection, which
is that in my career as a

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book editor, which I did for
almost fifty years since I was a small

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child, I published, I edited
or published a number of tie ins with

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movies and TV shows. I mean
dozens and dozens of them, from the

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ridiculous to the sublime, you know, ranging from things like mean Streets to

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uh oh. On the other end, say Badge three seven three, which

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is real, the other end of
things. If you if you know that

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title, it's a bad movie,
bad bad, bad movie. You do

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what you gotta do? Right?
Is that a drag net movie? What

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was his Badge? What was Bade
three seven three was Eddie Egan's sequel to

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The French Connection. Eddie Egan was
the guy who who the French Connection was

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about pretty much. But but the
script for Badge three seven three was so

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bad that when the person who wrote
the novel based on the movie uh submitted

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the manuscript, the title on top
of the of the manuscript didn't say Badge

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three seven three. It said I
hate to say it, but this is

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what it said. It said mix
versus spicks, and then there was the

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real title page. But I'm half
a fat the kind of movie it was,

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it was, it was, it
was bad. Okay, right,

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that's okay. This code in Hollywood
for a lot of things, like for

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if there is a lot of hot
rods in it and girls, and you

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know the guys who has a hot
rods? You don't get the girls and

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stuff? They call them tits and
tires movies, right, really know that?

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Yes, it's uh, I don't
say anyway. Now, well I

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said it for you, so listen. So tonight what we're talking about is

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like what we can start talking about
anyway. Hold it, she's holding up.

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What's it say? They says tits
and tires? How does she write

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that? And tit? Because it's
my cross stitch? You guys forgot.

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I was working on this. I'm
working very hard on it. Yeah,

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it's it's your what that's a stitch
in crochet? It's a cross stitchka.

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So I'm just like messing around with
it because I just started doing it.

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Can you spell it? Can you
spell it for us? Slowly? T

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as in tango, I as in
India tea as in tango. Well,

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you're right out, Okay, all
right? Why all right? I never

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thought Croshe would be exciting, but
apparently it is. H Anyway, we

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are alphabet with the names of the
royal family. Oh God, Elizabeth?

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No? Thanks? Oh? Really? Is that's how they do? Mean?

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I think they probably kicked Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, anyway, I

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did whatever. Anyway, wo why
are we dumping on the Royal family tonight?

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Okay? They have their problems.
You started it, We should have.

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I did start anyway. Listen,
So tonight we're talking about TV shows,

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our best, our favorite TV show, and our worst TV show.

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And I don't like there's a lot
of candidates. So I'm going to throw

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the switch for us because he's a
real TV guy. So switch one just

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thought us. Now, think about
for a second, what's your favorite show

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of all time? Can you narrow
it down to one? Well? A

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Fugitive starring David Jansen as doctor Richard
Kumball, which the original version. There

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was a reboot in the nineties which
wasn't bad, but this was this kind

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of set the tone for television shows
up to that point. You really didn't

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have a continuing premise. Everything was
usually resolved in one or maybe a two

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part episode, but this was unresolved. I mean, this guy's falsely convicted

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for the murder of his wife and
he's got the relentless Lieutenant Gerard, played

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magnificently by Barry Morse. And I
remember Stephen King saying that Barrymore scared the

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hell out of the whey was a
kid. I mean, you scared,

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Stephen King. That's pretty cool.
Yeah, that's scared everybody. Roy Huggins

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created it. And the genesis of
the of the TV show. Now,

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I can go on forever about this, so you're gonna have to come off

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at some point, but not yet. The genesis of the TV show is

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he wanted a sort of something like
a contemporary Western. He wanted somebody moving

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from town to town, but he
didn't want it to be a drifter.

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He wanted him to have a compelling
reason. And so he came up with

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the idea of that he's falsely convicted, he escapes and every week he has

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to elude the police. And it
was very like Quinn Martin the producers that

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it's stylized like a Western because poor
Richard kimball Man. He'd walk into town,

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there was another murder, there was
something, some horrible calamity, and

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sometimes he'd be accused again. But
other times he would have to put his

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safety on the line to help somebody. He always had this moral dilemma.

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Yeah. Cool, Yeah, that's
a great show. It really is.

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It's an iconic showing. Way.
Who's the guy his name escapes me?

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Who's the lead character? David Jensen? Oh, David David Jensen. Yeah,

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And he played it. It's kind
of funny. He like underplayed it,

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if I can remember. He underplayed
it very very well because it made

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him very dark and mysterious and on
the run. But it was good.

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And Quinn Martin was smart because he
would put the show, our show into

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four different segments, and he would
say, segment one, segment two,

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so I want to say a book
in a way, you know, But

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then then he continued the storyline.
It was great. Is it not really

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like? Uh lame miss rob though, isn't it? Leib When when the

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screenwriter, uh, I think his
name was Leonard Stansmore. Uh, he

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was uh given the you know,
the basic premise, and he's the one

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that wrote the Pilot and he saw
the uh the uh connection between you know,

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uh Javert Javert. That's where he
got the name Gerard when the police

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lieutenant obsessed with his capture and he
saw the you know, kind of parallel

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there with Leai miss rob this uh
this really great man and this in his

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case he had reformed and he was
helping people and eluding the the the evil

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in this case Lieutenant Javert and uh
you know, and also uh uh Peter

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Ruggalow did the music for the show, and he was known as kind of

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a jazz musician. But people remember, I remember that music as it's d

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I used to record it with my
little little real the reel tape recorder.

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And he actually, I'm not even
sure that he when he scored the Pilot.

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I don't know if he had.
He made about two a little to

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over two hours of music, you
know, uh chase music, the themes

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and various uh presented in different ways. But he said, you know,

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he didn't actually see the TV show, but he was friends with David Jansen,

406
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,920
and he was known to say that
when uh, when you heard the

407
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,200
music that he that that he composed, you saw David Jansen like and Jansen

408
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:59,279
was the perfect perfect choice to play
doctor Richard. A few times where the

409
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:05,759
person and on this on the page
uh matched the uh, the the actor

410
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,160
matched the character, and just a
couple other quick things. They also used

411
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,359
a lot of music from what they
call the CBS Library of Music, and

412
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,279
it like Jerry Goldsmith, uh Bergard
Herman and others that actually originally composed some

413
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:22,720
of the music for the Twilight Zone. And so that that was it just

414
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,319
it just fit it like a glove
and even dominic frontiery in the last episode

415
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,920
last last season, season four when
they went to color and so. And

416
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,400
the last thing I'll say about it
is the film they made with with Harrison

417
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,559
Ford. I think a lot of
people have ripped on it, but I

418
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:43,000
think was the best translation from a
TV show to a movie ever done.

419
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:45,079
Yeah huh really yeah, I remember
it is okay, but I know that

420
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:47,839
there's holes in the in the plot. But I was going to say the

421
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,759
typical fugitive script back then is he's
he's going from town to town. He's

422
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:58,759
walking, he sees the chi accident. He has to save, you know,

423
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,079
the person inside the car because he's
a doctor. That's the thing he

424
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,000
keeps getting in these things, these
moral dilemmas because he's the doctor. He

425
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:07,400
saves the person in the cop but
the cops coming. The cops say,

426
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,400
well, you have to come with
us. Okay, So because he's done

427
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:15,240
a nice act, he's going to
be in trouble, you know. And

428
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:20,160
that's usually what it was, you
know, And it was a Marral dilemma.

429
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,880
The thing is mac they ended,
they could they ended the TV series.

430
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,200
They didn't leave it open ended.
It was a big debate. Actually

431
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:30,119
they thought maybe it would hurt it
in reruns if they had a conclusion.

432
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,759
But they did have that two part
episode that had the highest rating, and

433
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:39,519
they held it for about thirteen years. The who Shot j R? Episode?

434
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,920
Really, so what happened? He
turns out he kills her? No

435
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:50,160
no, yeah, because he lost
he's actually the one of the man.

436
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,000
No man, he's exonerating and they
get the worst of the man could the

437
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:58,640
perpetrator? Okay, so, switchy, that's your favorite show? What's your

438
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480
worst show? When we already through
a list of okay, okay, it

439
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:07,800
shows we can't you know, hundreds
of happened over the decades, and a

440
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,480
lot of them are these things back
in the old days. No matter how

441
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,360
bad a show was, it would
last like eleven or thirteen weeks. Yes,

442
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,280
a half season. Yeah, okay, I thought, I'm not going

443
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:22,639
to deal with those. My worst
show is more contemporary modern family, like

444
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:30,599
One Family. You know that's actually
show hate modern family passion. I've never

445
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:35,199
been able to watch a full episode. It's so full of itself and pretentious

446
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,599
camera you watch it though I felt
that way. I couldn't watch it.

447
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,559
I never watched it when it was
on, but we've watched it in reruns.

448
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,719
It's actually pretty funny. The way
they put it together is actually I

449
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:51,480
got to I kind of agree to
disagree with you. Damn Switchy. It

450
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:55,519
needs to be buried in a shadow
grip. I don't care for the later

451
00:34:55,639 --> 00:35:00,440
seasons. I think it really peaked
at like season four, and then it

452
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,800
was like all down. Hell yeah. If we see anything over season four,

453
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,480
we don't watch it. It's like
a lots of TV shows, the

454
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,360
first two years are the best,
and then when they get popular, it

455
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,920
starts to drain. I mean,
there's something you are This is the difference.

456
00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:19,239
The first three years was black and
white, and it had a lot

457
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,559
of that quality. Shadows, the
wet streets and so forth, and Kimball

458
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:28,599
walking off into the night. It
at so good in the fourth season.

459
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,440
Yeah, that's funny that they turned
into color and then loses a little bit

460
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,480
of All the TV shows were going
to color at that time. That was

461
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,119
a big deal. Yeah, yeah, okay, so many. That's why

462
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:39,960
I used to watch Police Squad because
it was in color and like that was

463
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:45,239
unheard of at the time. Wasn't
that a comedy? Yeah, And it

464
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,920
had like eight episodes and then it
got canceled. It's a damn shame.

465
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,880
It was so ahead of its time. I'm gonna go to your Police Squad.

466
00:35:54,599 --> 00:36:01,239
When Frank walks in and he talks
to another coworker, uh who is

467
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:07,559
so tall that uh with where the
camera's framed everything from the man's shoulders up

468
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:13,760
is framed out. And Frank says
to him, every time I see this

469
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,360
joke, I die laugh. And
he says, oh, you got something

470
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,400
here, and the guy picks up
his hand and then half a banana just

471
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,400
falls down, and it is every
time. It's the dumbest joke, and

472
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,440
it it just sends me railing every
time. It's yeah, oh, it's

473
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,480
so good, and it's it's stuff
like that. That like, I'll think

474
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:36,559
about it at the most inappropriate time, and I'll and I've seen it two

475
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:40,599
hundred times and I will still laugh
every single time you have to turn the

476
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:46,480
TV off when you're having six Right, Then, where did that come from?

477
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,800
Well, she said the most inappropriate. I don't own a TV.

478
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,840
I'm one of those people. We
don't believe that. Wow, that's interesting.

479
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,840
That's that's yeah. So is that
the in the opening credits? I

480
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,199
mean the mixing it up with maybe
one of the you know, the the

481
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:12,840
movies that now Leslie Nielsen was in, but the naked gun. Yeah?

482
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Yes, is that the one where
you know, you're looking at it from

483
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:19,920
the point of view you're on top
of the cop car and the like the

484
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:22,480
like the lightest spinning but they're going
through super markets, they're hitting people and

485
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:28,159
stuff. That Yeah, very funny. I think the one where the car

486
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:37,599
is going through a woman's uterus and
then where was I mean, it's just

487
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,920
so good. I cannot believe that's
one sentence I didn't expect to hear any

488
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:47,079
But I think the funny cut off
bingo card twitching. The funniest thing on

489
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:52,840
that show was when Frank Greben was
with Priscilla Presley. Oh yes, and

490
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,920
she climbs up the ladder get something
out of the attic and she pulls something

491
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,559
down and yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time I see or hear that,

492
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,320
I it's just too funny. I'm
gonna be a I'm gonna be a

493
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,639
sexist pick here. But you know, missus Elvis had something going there for

494
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:10,920
a while. You know, she
was in a lot of movies. She

495
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:14,800
was pretty, she could act.
Yes, I don't know, I don't

496
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,800
know. But when she pulled that
stuffed animal out of the ceiling, go

497
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,480
ahead, it was all over.
Okay, all right, we'll take you

498
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:24,320
with her. Cool all right.
So anyway, so Raven, so what's

499
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:30,719
your favorite show? What's your worst
show? We'll just favorite show. It's

500
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,559
really funny. I'm kind of got
a piggyback off of Switch. My favorite

501
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:38,719
show has to be Twin Peaks.
Yeah, okay, And I say that

502
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:45,119
obviously because of the Philip Girard connection. And I actually just started doing a

503
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:50,039
rewatch of Twin Peaks a few weeks
ago on Twin Peaks Day. I mean,

504
00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:55,000
it's just I love David Lynch.
He's just so bizarre, and I

505
00:38:55,039 --> 00:39:00,559
mean the story is like this,
you know, mystery soap opera type of

506
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,920
a thing. But then like there's
kind of like these elements that like catch

507
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,840
you by surprise that are just funny. Like literally, in the pilot,

508
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,159
you know Laura Palmer's dead and the
school doesn't know about it yet, and

509
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,159
in the background of one of the
shots, all you see is this guy

510
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:21,239
dancing and he just kind of boogies
off screen and it's like this thing where

511
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,079
you blink and you miss it.
It's just great. And then there's so

512
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:31,519
many little hidden things where you know
Bob the I mean, you can call

513
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:38,199
him the antagonist because he's part of
that. It wasn't even cast initially.

514
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:43,079
He was got He got put in
by accident because in the pilot, at

515
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:45,840
the very very last I'm pretty sure
it's a pilot, it's the very last

516
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:51,639
shot, Sarah Palmer is screaming and
all you see is the reflection in the

517
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,400
mirror. Like again, you blink
and you miss it. You see the

518
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,679
reflection of Bob in the mirror.
And that was Frank Silva. He was

519
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,239
a set director, I think set
designer really. He was there completely on

520
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,159
accident and he got cast. And
it's like I mean, the show just

521
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:09,719
has layers, and this is another
one where it has. It had two

522
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,519
seasons off the bat in the early
nineties, ninety to ninety one, it

523
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,599
had Firewalk with Me in the movie, and then it had the Return in

524
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:21,280
twenty eighteen. And I mean,
after you watch the Return, it's just

525
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,519
like I need more, like forever
for the rest of my life. I

526
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:30,960
just love that show. I mean, I don't know, I can't say

527
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:35,159
enough about it. I think everyone
needs to freaking watch it because it's just

528
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,679
so freaking good. You and I
need to have a discussion about gwinn Peaks

529
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:45,760
sometime. All kinds of other hidden
things in the original that David Lynch used,

530
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,679
like the film Laura. Are you
familiar with that at all? Uh?

531
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,119
Yes, okay, very quickly,
Mac. Just just in the film

532
00:40:54,159 --> 00:41:00,639
Laura, there was a character played
by Clifton Webb called Waldo Lie Decker mina

533
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:05,280
bird was named Waldo, Yes,
sure was after Li Decker. There's a

534
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,760
million little things like that in there. And actually in the film Laura,

535
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,559
the question is is she alive or
dead? And the same thing anyway,

536
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,800
uh, And and well we have
to talk about the return sometime too.

537
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,800
But yeah, for sure. Yeah, well we'll talk more about that off

538
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,400
air, for sure. But yeah, I just it's every time I watch

539
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,119
it, I just like feel like
and there's so many scenes where you just

540
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:32,000
feel like not good, but you
also can't turn away, like and again,

541
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:35,960
I'll bring it back to the pilot
when Sarah Palmer is walking around the

542
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,000
house calling for Laura and there's that
really uncomfortable shot of the stairwell and the

543
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:45,760
ceiling fan going, I mean,
you're you're your anxiety just spikes, but

544
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,519
at the same time, you're like, I just need to soak it up.

545
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,880
Oh god, I love that show. The Music School at Minty.

546
00:41:54,159 --> 00:42:00,000
Yes, Angelo Battle Lamente I cried, yeah, oh my god. Yeah.

547
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,840
And Julie Cruz, I mean she
just said a few years ago and

548
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,719
ye, so yeah, my favorite
by far Twin Peaks. I can talk

549
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:14,559
about that until I die of Oxygen
loss. Least favorite movie, least favorite

550
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:20,079
TV shows, it's a really really
close tie. But I'm gonna have to

551
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:24,719
say Full House terrible show. It's
just I'm sorry, it's a piece of

552
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:30,639
shit. I like, my kid
loved that show and we would get home

553
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:34,239
from school and it was like in
the nineties, so we were little.

554
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,800
She loved it. She was older
than me and she used to dominate the

555
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,800
TV so she would always watch Full
House and I had to watch. You

556
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:49,679
know, you get it, dude, Like it's so annoying. And plus,

557
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:54,079
the layout of that house is chaotic
and makes no sense if you think

558
00:42:54,079 --> 00:43:00,559
about it, because it has a
peaked addict where the one guy lives at

559
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:06,079
some point with his wife, the
one that committed all the fraud. She's

560
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:09,119
in there. They're living in this
thing that has a peaked roof, but

561
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,679
the exterior shot of the house has
a flat rooftop. Huh. I was

562
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,519
seven realizing that, and I'm like, no, I'm sorry, you were

563
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:22,199
watching in my book? Yeah,
okay, let me ask you this though.

564
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,159
Okay, this is you know,
I never watched it because it's kind

565
00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:28,320
of, you know, before my
time or ahead of my time or whatever.

566
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,320
But what have with the Ulcean Twins? Man? I come on,

567
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:37,880
they turned out the freaks billionaires.
They're literally, I know that, billionaires,

568
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,880
but you know they would have they
have. They have a whole Instagram

569
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,280
page dedicated to them. That's Mary, Kate and Ashley smoking. And it's

570
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,880
the best thing I've ever seen in
my life. And it's just pictures of

571
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,800
them smoking on the streets smoking cigarette. They're doing they are killing it really

572
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,480
yeah yeah, yeah, but I
mean, didn't you don't you think that's

573
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:57,840
an odd way for them to turn
out. Didn't you think that they would

574
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,400
become kind of like, you know, actress and maybe have a sitcom you

575
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,159
know, who knows. I just
don't know. They weren't good, but

576
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,639
then they get the younger sister,
as has been the one that's become the

577
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:15,800
Elizabeth superb. She's very, very
good. She's the one that stayed in

578
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,719
the business. But the two sisters
literally became billionaires from all of their direct

579
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:27,960
to VHS videos from the nineties.
And when they appear, they just they

580
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:32,920
do such odd things. Mary Kate
gave a performance in this very little independent

581
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,119
film called The Wackness that came out
in two thousand and six, two thousand

582
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:42,599
and seven, where she plays a
straight up acid head hippie and she walks

583
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,159
away from the film, I mean
walks away with the film. The performance

584
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:51,800
is excellent and I just didn't expect, you know, little full house girl

585
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:57,880
to play this acid head that and
the performance is phenomenal. They just don't

586
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,679
care anymore. They don't have to. They don't care at all, and

587
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,320
I love it. They have what
the kids call you money, But look

588
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,320
didn't they didn't they kill question for
Raven? Okay, what was your other?

589
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,559
What was the other one that was
almost tied with Full House? The

590
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:14,760
other I mentioned actually on the first
episode that we did of the Hollywood X

591
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:22,280
Files as friends. Don't get it. I don't get it. I don't

592
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,559
understand the appeal to it. I
don't think it's funny. It's like that's

593
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:28,719
up there with like a Big Bang
theory as well that that's another one.

594
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:31,960
I don't get why it's funny.
I just think it's boring and I think

595
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,159
people need to be told when to
laugh and I hate that. Just like

596
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:40,960
those guys, I just wasn't as
smart. Do you not like multie Raven?

597
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,199
Do you not like multicams with laughing? You do? I do?

598
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:50,320
That's the thing, because I do
like Seinfeld. I really enjoyed How I

599
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,840
Met Your Mother. I thought that
was a good show. There's just there's

600
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:59,639
ones that become so like people just
foam at the mouth for them, and

601
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:01,679
then I watch them and I'm like, I just don't think they're funny.

602
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,079
Let's yesh. But that happens to
a lot of you know, when the

603
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,800
when the when you're the top comedy, you've been watered It's taken you a

604
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,320
while, you know, two or
three years to climb up there, and

605
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,639
for some reason you get watered down. They mentioned Seinfeld for for instance.

606
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:22,480
Okay, well you know when when
Larry David left, that's when that thing

607
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:25,320
just started to spiral a lot of
control. But you could tell by the

608
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:30,400
third or fourth year. And once
again, we watch it. If it's

609
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,480
anything over the fourth or fifty year, we don't watch it because it's it's

610
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:37,920
like they're almost running out of ideas. And I hear, like the right,

611
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:39,719
the original writers move on and now
they're making you know, a tons

612
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,639
of money, and they bring in
out of the writers and they try to

613
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,760
change stuff. Larry David, who
is funny in a way. I'm not

614
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,000
a real big fan of his,
but when he left, it started to

615
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,559
lose it. But it hung on
for him like five years. Man,

616
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:55,280
and they're doing stories about you know, craming with a chicken and I mean,

617
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,880
come on, you know, I
mean pull the plug and you're having

618
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:04,360
a rick shaw and I'll cash services. But if you have a doobie one

619
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,880
night and then you put on some
red Seinfeld has a really good time.

620
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:13,199
I miss that, just for a
comedy kick when you need it, really,

621
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,800
Yeah, you know, I mean, let's face it, you know,

622
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,840
comedy is the kind of thing where
there's so many different styles, so

623
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,920
many different tastes in comedy. There
are people who are going to love one

624
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,760
kind of comedy and hate another.
Yeah, but it's funny, it's funny.

625
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,960
Though funny is funny? I mean
you can no, that's not true.

626
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,400
It's all subjective. This is what
you think, what you think is

627
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,119
funny, what I think is funny, what anybody thinks is funny is it's

628
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:43,000
a personal thing. I think for
a semester, I studied at the in

629
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,880
Chicago Second City in Chicago, I
studied there for a semester. Yeah,

630
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,199
and you'd get in there every you
know, for every class, and then

631
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:57,159
we're about twenty or thirty of us
in there, yep, and we just

632
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,840
it was all improvised. Yeah,
yes, okay, yes, and uh

633
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,079
they you know, they taught us
how to improvise. And it was like

634
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:06,960
a semester long was right before nine
to eleven, okay, sure, and

635
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,480
every every night. It was just
you were laughing for like three hours.

636
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:14,599
Yeah. So those a lot of
those guys went on to Saturday Night Live.

637
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:16,880
And my question is why did they
stop being funny then? Because that

638
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:22,360
that's that's going to be among at
least least one a for terrible shows.

639
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:25,519
And we'll get to when you get
to meet, but set in it show

640
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,599
used to be wonderful. It was
must watch. You're on a date and

641
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:34,679
You're coming back live is on first
chair? Yeah yeah right, it's cheap

642
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,800
entertainment, right, okay, but
it's first and Roses is going to be

643
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,119
the entertainment. It's been around.
Yeah, it's been around for thirty years.

644
00:48:40,159 --> 00:48:45,880
And there Richards and the expensive wine
ups. Those people at Second City,

645
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,639
they were crazy, it's funny,
but I think they toned it down.

646
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,400
The police would come in occasionally because
like they'd be walking around the outside

647
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:59,000
of the building at the top floor
on the wall. Really have to command

648
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,400
and tell them get all off the
wall. You're gonna die, you know.

649
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:07,000
But every other class somebody the police
had to come in and stop breaking

650
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,320
up. They're living, They're not
okay through the noses. That is interesting,

651
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,880
okay, cool, but just to
go back to our original premise is

652
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,119
that it just seems that the Office, remember The Office? Okay, I

653
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:21,039
watched that, like for the first
two years, I felt that I was

654
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:25,000
the only person watching it in the
original not the British one, the British

655
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,480
one is, but the American one. And then once it kind of hit

656
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,480
it, they they you know,
all of a sudden, you know,

657
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,159
it turns into friends. That's what
happened with Big Bang. Actually the first

658
00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:38,119
two this is my turn, but
the first two years of Big Bang actually

659
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:42,239
pretty good. But then they turned
it into friends where they're just sitting around

660
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,519
talking about their fields and all that
bullshit, and and I know that's what

661
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:49,400
people want, but that's just not
funny to me, especially when they were

662
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,840
funny one season and then they're not
funny the next you know. Yeah,

663
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,960
And that's the thing. It's like, you know, at the end of

664
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,840
the day, the people that are
making the shows that I hate are appeasing

665
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,039
people that aren't like me. So
I'm I'm impossible to please. So you

666
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:08,800
know, unless it's Twin Peaks or
Twin Peaks adjacent, I'm just going to

667
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:15,360
be You're a huge David Lynch fan
Raven yes, I love I would literally

668
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,400
uh. Over the weekend I watched
I rewatched Dune the original, and then

669
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,880
we watched Yeah, and then we
watched the remake. Really oh man,

670
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:28,599
couldn't get into killing me? Yeah? Yeah, I turned it off after

671
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:35,440
the big creature in the What is
that huge creature with the big worm?

672
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:38,679
The worm? Yeah? It's hot? Wat Did I hear that when you

673
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:44,199
watch? Maybe Trevor can elaborate on
this. If you watch the new Dune

674
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:51,679
at the theater have popcorn containers that
look like the worm, people said.

675
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,760
Some people said it look like a
flashlight, but it's supposed to be.

676
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:58,880
I almost said, it depends on
how you use it. Is there hole

677
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,280
in the bottom? It does look
like it does? You know it does?

678
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:10,800
That's exactly like a fleshlight attached to
a bucket. That's what the That's

679
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,320
what the remake worm looks like because
the original one was more of like a

680
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,360
flower pedal design, and this one
is more of a flesh light design.

681
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:25,800
This is more of a Jorji O'Keefe. Let's talk about that flower. Hey

682
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,440
listen, Trevor, you new here, so why didn't you explain to the

683
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:39,159
audience exactly what a fleshlight is A
fleshlight is a It has a handle very

684
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:45,079
similar to a flashlight or the old
fashioned long stem flashlights, and at the

685
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:53,599
end of it is a mold of
a Usually it's a famous porn stars vagina.

686
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:58,440
Okay, boom, I was one
way we're going to get to the

687
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,239
punchline. Okay, go ahead.
A good fleas a good flash flight.

688
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:12,920
Uh. It's battery operated and it
it it simulates the motion when you put

689
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:21,639
your member inside of it, and
uh, it simulates having coitus. Okay,

690
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:30,440
all right with with your favorite porn
star Hwy five of them. Okay,

691
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:36,920
so you know of what you said. Actually I know about Trevor.

692
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,000
I don't know if you guys know
this, but the movie Lars and the

693
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:46,159
Real Girl is movie Trevor a good
movie movie. Wow, Oh that was

694
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,760
great. Okay, I don't know
what I'm going to edit that out.

695
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,840
I'll leave it in and just you
know, think put it on a loop.

696
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,559
That's what my date said. That's
what my date said. Anyway.

697
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,400
Okay, Wow, hey, so
Raven, you had your best in your

698
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:07,039
worst. Okay, why don't we
go to uh when we go to doctor

699
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:10,199
Bob, This would be interesting.
Doctor Bob, So your favorite TV start

700
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:15,960
with whatever one you want that was
your favorite, Okay, my favorite one.

701
00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:27,480
The TV show was Hill Street Blues. Yeah. And the one thing

702
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:31,360
that it was really interesting to me
because like Hill Street Blues, like it

703
00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:40,119
was the named Stephen Baccio. Uh
I grew up in Pittsburgh, Okay,

704
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,840
and uh now that was that TV
show was filmed in like Pittsburgh, Buffalo

705
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:55,559
and Chicago. And when I,
uh I did my undergraduate degree at Duqune

706
00:53:55,679 --> 00:54:02,760
University in Pittsburgh, Okay, I
did my student teaching in the Hill District

707
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:12,400
and that's where this a lot of
this TV show was filmed. And you'd

708
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,039
see that the the the TV show
was something that I would see almost every

709
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:22,440
day when I'd go up into the
Hill filming. Yeah, huh really yeah,

710
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,320
and you know, all the crime
and everything seemed like there was a

711
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:30,239
lot going on. But I'd see
that almost every day when I would go

712
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:36,039
up there. It was the first
really really a wild place to work.

713
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:39,519
I went up into that district to
find out. I did student teaching in

714
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:45,440
a school called Herron Hill School,
which was up in the top of the

715
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:49,440
hill, the Hill District in Pittsburgh, and I couldn't find the school,

716
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,320
so I had to go to a
So I went into a gas station to

717
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,280
ask for directions, and I was
only like three blocks away, but I

718
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,679
was lost, and they gave me
directions and they charged me for the directions.

719
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:08,280
They said that'll be five dollars.
I started. I said, oh

720
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,760
yeah, so I started walking really
fast in my car and they came after

721
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,559
me. No that in that case, you pay them the five bucks.

722
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:20,320
I'm sorry. But anyway, Okay, if something like school one time,

723
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,679
as the alarms went off early five
minutes in the school and there were like

724
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:30,360
twenty stores that got robbed because they
didn't get a chance to put their gates

725
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,480
down to prevent the students from getting
in and you know, robbing the stores.

726
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:38,800
Wow, uh, that whole you
know, when i'd watch it then,

727
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,840
because I did my student teaching there
in like sixteen or seventy. But

728
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,000
then when I would go home and
start watching you know, the TV show

729
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:52,079
Hillstreet Blues, and I had seen
that, you know, sometimes i'd see

730
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:55,679
that same corner. Yeah, some
of the same people that were there when

731
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,840
I was doing my student teaching.
Maybe the people you ran into were acted

732
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,400
just shipping that. So what was
your what was your what's your least favorite

733
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,039
show? Well, my least favorite
show. Like I said, I don't

734
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:12,880
watch a lot of TV, but
there was one as a kid growing up.

735
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:19,800
It was called Science Fiction Theater.
Oh that's a great show. Are

736
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,239
you kidding me? Oh? Come
on, doctor Bob. I thought we

737
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:27,360
were friends. Really where we were. The reason I didn't care for is

738
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,360
because it scared the hell out of
me. Oh yeah, okay, okay.

739
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,760
It was like I was born in
forty eight, and that was about

740
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,679
fifty five, fifty six to fifty
seven where that was going on. Of

741
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,079
course, we had one of those
black and white TV. We're talking about

742
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:46,840
a different than mystery. We're not
talking about science mystery, mystery, Science

743
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:53,159
theaters different you Okay, that was
from the fifties, right, yeah,

744
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:59,039
yeah, yeah, Oh I guess
you seven. I remember one night's watching

745
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:00,880
that show by my I was a
little kid. Yep. It was the

746
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:08,760
first time that they had UFOs on
and they had a he was a someone

747
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:15,840
was a minor in Mexico and a
flying saucer beamed him up and they had

748
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:21,400
to figure out and he he accidentally
had this device that they could trace him

749
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,840
with, you know, to find
Saucers and it's Scared the Daylight. Yeah

750
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,559
yeah, funny weeks yeah yeah,
yeah, but that's the I mean,

751
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:32,480
I loved watching it, but it
scared me to death. They used to

752
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:37,119
in Boston. They had something called
Fantasmic Features, okay, and they had

753
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,440
a guy named Sheep and his head
was like a ping pong alien guy.

754
00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:45,960
But they would have movies on that
were just a bit scarier than your kind

755
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,239
of normal movies, you know.
I mean, like, yeah, the

756
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,719
Attack of the There was something like
the Attack of the Giant Crabs or something

757
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,559
like that, and they actually show
a guy getting cut in half and stuff.

758
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:59,760
It was kind of graphic. Let
me put graphic the kid. And

759
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,239
you'd go to a movie theater,
you know, would get too scary.

760
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,079
I'd crawl underneath the seat, really, I mean, and you could tell

761
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:12,519
how scary the movie was because remember
those little Jugi beads. Yes you get

762
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:15,559
in the theater, yes, and
you'd get kun how many black Jugi beads

763
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:20,039
you had on your shirt? Hey
wait, we're walking home. That showed

764
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:24,320
you how scary how many times it
ducked? Okay? Cool? Why doctor

765
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,639
Bob, so listen, why don't
we do this. Why don't we take

766
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:32,000
a measure break now and we'll we
be right back. You're listening to mcaloney's

767
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,199
Hollywood X Files tonight. We're talking
about a favorite and least favorite TV show.

768
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769
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776
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777
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:51,159
what a show we have you tonight. I'm talking about Hollywood Movies,

778
00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:57,199
TV everything, our favorite and our
least favorite TV shows with us. Girls.

779
00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:00,519
Get ready, if you're not already
fanning yourself and wiping your off down,

780
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:07,800
here's it. Well, where did
that come from from here's your wanting

781
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,760
pretty famous one one. Okay,
girls, Hey you, ladies and gentlemen

782
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,280
and all ships at sea, welcome
to the show, The Hollywood ex Files.

783
01:00:16,039 --> 01:00:19,679
It's a good one. It's fun
so far getting a few laughs out

784
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:22,199
of it so far. A few
laughs, that's all you can hope for.

785
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,400
Okay. Also with us talking about
a few laughs, I don't want

786
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,960
to say very few, but a
few laughs. Switch plays Steve one on

787
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:35,800
National corresponding, Switchy, great to
be here making everybody laugh, making everyone

788
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,320
laugh, okay, just with your
presence. He looks diabolical tonight. I

789
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,360
don't know, maybe I said that
before. But you've got the lighting.

790
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,719
He's got the lighting and the Carol
Channing glasses, doesn't okay? All right?

791
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:52,079
Switching also a rendition of Hello,
Dolly. Well, you know if

792
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:54,880
we get if it gets slow,
okay, we need extra time. Okay.

793
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,800
So in this studio with us is
Alan Andol Hey Mack, Hello everyone,

794
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:05,360
Steve right, club's not here today. Maybe that's why you're being diabolical

795
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,360
because you're it took care of club
during the week. What do you mean,

796
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,639
take care of well? He's not
here? Is okay? Well?

797
01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:17,559
All right, he'll turn up.
Okay, I wonder thank you out holy

798
01:01:17,639 --> 01:01:22,480
cow. Okay, also with us
is a favorite good witch up dude in

799
01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:27,679
Siways, Raven, Raven, How
are you hi, my friends? I'm

800
01:01:27,679 --> 01:01:30,159
doing great, Thanks for having me. Was that an orange juice? I

801
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:32,239
just caught you drinking half of the
glasses. I didn't think you were coming

802
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:34,880
to me, so I was like, oh, let me just do it

803
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:38,000
quick, quickli. So what are
you drinking tonight? Is it uh ginger

804
01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:44,360
ale? Yeah, it's gingerrele okay, mixed with but is that col stuff?

805
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,159
Is that that? No? Okay, get this, let me spill

806
01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:52,800
the tea. So Colish is not
back yet. And because I uh have

807
01:01:52,159 --> 01:01:55,599
absolutely no self control when it comes
to that stuff, like, I just

808
01:01:55,639 --> 01:02:00,039
don't know how to act around it. I have gone through all of my

809
01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:02,800
backstock of Colsh and my cat is
here, so please don't yell at her.

810
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,800
She's a baby, Okay. So
I have two cans of Colsh left

811
01:02:08,199 --> 01:02:15,159
and it doesn't come back to the
supermarkets until March twenty fifth, a week.

812
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,400
I'm actually having a raspberry jam in
tonight, which is from my local

813
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,239
brewery. It's very good. I
just I do love my colsh Okay,

814
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:27,880
you're going to bring some of that
next time you come to visit. No

815
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,440
a, yeah, if you can't, you know, if it's if it's

816
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,559
what does it for? You get
to bring it so we can well see

817
01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:38,920
you. I guess prime you know, wait in man, you guys.

818
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,360
But not the last time I was
there, but the time before when we

819
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:49,679
were at the UFO fest. Ahead, Yes, I was hammer Okay,

820
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,800
wow, you really like past?
What I should have been at? Well

821
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,400
we did that. Well, we
went down the calm. There was some

822
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,920
drinks at the Max's. Yeah,
that's okay, that's what you will.

823
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:08,239
Full The conferences are all about an
abduction bait. It was before we even

824
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,960
got there. I was, I
was drunk. Yeah I will. I

825
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,280
will bring a case of cols the
next time I come come up. Okay,

826
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,079
drop the house and we'll sit it
on max deck and we'll sit down

827
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:22,679
and drink it. No, okay, we'll put it on the company card.

828
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:27,360
We can go. We've got to
repair the railings, got to repay

829
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,119
the railing for us. The whole
half of the railing went out on the

830
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:32,920
windstorm the other day. So you
know, no, no trouble. Yeah,

831
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,320
it's okay anyway, wow, where
was I? Thank you very okay.

832
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:43,719
Also with us is once again we
need a doctor on call twenty four

833
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,039
hours a day, doctor Bob Gross. How you doing doctor? Just turn

834
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:52,360
your head and cough go that's the
name of his new album. We keep

835
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:57,400
asking you this, but what are
you a doctor of I've a doctor of

836
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:03,199
education, so I could can t
shat institutes of higher learning as well as

837
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:10,239
conduct research. Oh wow cool okay, uh, you said, what is

838
01:04:10,239 --> 01:04:14,840
it? Training? Hend and cough? Shall I tell my go for tell

839
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,440
my joke. Yeah. The guy
goes into the doctor's office and he's get

840
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,400
he gets his exam and you know, it comes to the point in the

841
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:26,920
exam where he has to go through
the test the process with the reublic glove

842
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,639
and so and so. The doctor
says, okay, here, you know,

843
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:34,000
it's time take your position. The
guy takes his position and yeah,

844
01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:36,639
he said, starts the procedure and
the doctor says, Tom, hey,

845
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:42,199
listen, calm down, don't worry. It's not unusual for people to get

846
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:45,559
an erection during these and the guy
says, I don't have an erection.

847
01:04:45,679 --> 01:04:50,559
The doctor says, yeah, but
I do. What I was going through

848
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:56,559
my job. Yes, sorry,
doctor boss. Yes, and they do

849
01:04:56,639 --> 01:04:58,639
that same thing. They have you
all lined up in the room and that

850
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,559
doctor gets behind you. Oh,
and he says, bend over. He

851
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:08,880
stuck his use his finger shut.
I said, does this mean we're engaged?

852
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:15,559
Oh no, you're supposed to tell
you that happened to me one time.

853
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,320
You know. I assumed the position
go ahead, and it just seemed

854
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,159
like it was taking a while.
So I said, doc, is everything

855
01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:27,719
okay? And he said, I'm
not the doctor, I'm the janet.

856
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,079
Actually I've heard the guys say,
hey, you should have taken your ring

857
01:05:32,119 --> 01:05:34,599
off when you did that, and
he goes, ring nothing, that's my

858
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:42,639
wristwatch. Oh how what happened?
Off the road? We go, thank

859
01:05:42,679 --> 01:05:46,679
you doctor. We appreciate also with
us is h I'm glad? I asked

860
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,320
I have to flip a coint wh
would have introduced? Thank you all one?

861
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,480
What are you introduced next? When
when you go to super agent?

862
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,679
Jim Frankel? Jim, how you
doing? Okay? I'm good, But

863
01:05:57,719 --> 01:06:01,039
I think the rating on this thing
just went from for PG two R that's

864
01:06:01,079 --> 01:06:09,599
okay? Where's th f w H
definitely went to that and all of our

865
01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:15,199
English listeners. They're gone, they're
gone. Yes, okay, they're going

866
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,119
to that's okay. We love you
guys regardless. Start talking about the food

867
01:06:19,199 --> 01:06:23,840
bangers and Mash. I love bank, I forget it. Yeah, yes,

868
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,039
the whole contradiction of TI. Yes, fish and chips. Yes,

869
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,079
that's about any that's where we understand
that fish and chips. Anyway, Jim,

870
01:06:32,119 --> 01:06:36,519
everything's okay with you, right,
Yeah, we're having spring here more

871
01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:41,360
or less. You're down in North
Carolina. Some days it's in the seventies,

872
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,239
some days it's in the fifties.
Okay. And you get that hat

873
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,880
on, right, the bulld arm
hat. That's right, yep? Okay,

874
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,960
do you follow them? Wait for
the baseball season to start again?

875
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:55,119
Really? Yes? Who were they
a minor league team for the Cubs or

876
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:59,519
someone. No, they're for the
Tampa Bay Rays. Oh okay, yeah,

877
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,920
yeah they're they're some of their A
couple of their guys went from the

878
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:12,360
Bulls to the Rays near the end
of the season last year. Rais are

879
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,320
good on talent, you know what
I mean. They judge talent better than

880
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,599
a lot of other teams. Yeah, they're very good, and the Bulls

881
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:23,159
have been very very good. They
won the International League year before last.

882
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:27,679
Nice yep, and they keep in
second. They nearly won it again last

883
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,800
year. Yeah yeah, cool.
Yeah. I think minor league ball.

884
01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:33,760
When I lived in Sarato, they
had the Glenn's Falls White Sox, and

885
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:38,599
we grew up there and we saw
some of the guys who went up and

886
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,079
were heavy hitters in like the mid
eighties White Sox. One of I forget

887
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:45,559
their names now, but they were
all like these big, huge guys and

888
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,199
just went hit home runs like crazy. You know, we saw them in

889
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,320
minor league. You know, it's
kind of cool to you know, kind

890
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:58,079
of see them, you know.
So anyway, let's let's Trevor is our

891
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,079
special special guest tonight. Troup.
What's your last name? You have some

892
01:08:01,239 --> 01:08:06,159
kind of a royal name, right, Yes, my last name is Chamberlain.

893
01:08:06,719 --> 01:08:13,719
Wow. Okay, and you're not
Irish? No, no, it's

894
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,560
actually a pretty strange story. I'm
I'm actually half Indigenous and half English.

895
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:26,079
Huh really well, yeah, my
mother my mother was raised on a reservation

896
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:31,760
really yeah? Wow? Where whereabouts? Uh? It was. She's a

897
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:38,800
member of the Ute tribe. Uh
there from the four Corners, So the

898
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,479
they were on a reservation in that
area until she was a kid, and

899
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:49,680
then they moved to a slum in
California called Cosmelia. And I'm not using

900
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:57,479
the word lightly. It literally was
categorized as a slum and it was it's

901
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:03,439
it's it's indicative out bad the living
conditions are on the reservation because my mom

902
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:09,079
says the slum was better paradise compared
to the reservw Man, that sucks.

903
01:09:09,119 --> 01:09:13,960
I mean that is yeah, you
have to go back. I mean,

904
01:09:14,079 --> 01:09:16,520
you know it would not go on
to politics and all this stuff and woke

905
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:21,239
and all this stuff. But listen, you have to understand what we've done

906
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:27,199
to the Indigenous people. Okay,
I mean the one hundred and twenty million

907
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:32,279
is the low estimate. One hundred
and sixty million is the high estimate of

908
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:39,159
how many Indigenous people have been killed
in this country in the last five centuries.

909
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:47,960
That is the largest recorded genocide in
human history. And nobody talks about

910
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,000
it. You can call it wokeing. Oh, but listen, what you

911
01:09:51,079 --> 01:09:55,479
have to do. You have to
realize what history is. You have to

912
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,359
know what happened to make things hopefully
better in the future. But if you

913
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,880
turn your if you close your eyes
to what happened, then what good is

914
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,640
what you're going to do in the
future. You know, you have no

915
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:11,960
foundation. You know, there's no
hope. You have to know, you

916
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,640
have to know these things. That's
what I in the you know, from

917
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,840
two thousand and five to two thousand
and seven, I was working with a

918
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:27,439
Navajo tribe and then NASA. NASA
hired me to recruit Native Americans into their

919
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:35,880
astronaut program for their Areas project because
Native Americans thought differently about things, so

920
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:41,199
they wanted them to be astronauts so
they could help them solve the issues when

921
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:44,000
they got to March. What a
cool idea, I mean, you know,

922
01:10:44,119 --> 01:10:47,840
and what happened though, what happened
like the bah Well, I mean

923
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:55,359
I had to I worked with just
the Navajos, yep and that was from

924
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,520
two thousand and five two thousand and
seven, So I had to recruit the

925
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,720
best in the brightest Navajos and then
I would recommend them to NASA and then

926
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:11,760
they they bring them on board.
They needed people to think differently about things

927
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,600
because they told me they were going
to run into things on Mars and other

928
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:21,640
planets that people who were educated in
the Western cultures could not handle. Thought

929
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,880
that Native Americans could help them deal
with those. Wow. Man, what

930
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,760
a cool idea and would have been
cool if they did it. But you

931
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,600
know, who knows what I did
it for a few years. Yes,

932
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,560
but have they been so, Trevor
would not that you are the expert on

933
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:44,039
it. But has there been a
Native American in space? I believe there

934
01:11:44,079 --> 01:11:46,119
has. Yeah, okay, I
believe there has. Yes, yeah,

935
01:11:46,279 --> 01:11:49,159
it probably makes sense by this time. Wow. Anyway, So listen,

936
01:11:49,239 --> 01:11:51,520
Trouble. We're going to throw it
to you though. Okay, ye,

937
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:58,600
you get a good name, good
kind of uh you know BBC drama name,

938
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,720
right, Treva Chamberlain. Yeah,
oddly enough. I'm going to change

939
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,880
it in a few years. But
I do admit that it is a good

940
01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:09,479
It is a good name. I
just don't want to carry it anymore.

941
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,600
What are you going to change it
to? You know? I have no

942
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,159
idea? Yeah, okay, all
right, one one is going to send

943
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:23,640
you one names, Trevora. Read
those and be like, I'll just take

944
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,159
a handful of scrabble pieces and throw
it at the role and whatever you know

945
01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:30,319
falls down. That's what I'm going
with, Raven. I wouldn't be surprised

946
01:12:30,359 --> 01:12:35,720
if that's good for you man,
So Trevor, So let's go with your

947
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:42,640
favorite TV show? Yo, the
show? Your favorite TV show? Okay,

948
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:49,119
So I usually rate things two ways. Uh, what's the best that

949
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:53,439
I've seen? And what are my
favorites. My favorites are the ones that

950
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,079
I can watch over and over again, Okay, the best ones. They're

951
01:12:57,079 --> 01:13:01,840
the best, but they're challenging and
might not be not something you want to

952
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:08,359
watch over and over again. My
favorite TV show is also the best TV

953
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:15,319
show I've ever seen, and it's
called Twin Peaks, and I I Am

954
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:21,760
not gonna say much more, uh
objectively about it because Raven covered it already,

955
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:26,600
So sorry, sorry to get dark
on you guys, but I'm going

956
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,479
to talk about it from a subjective
point of view. It's just is this

957
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:36,199
a love letter to Raven? Do
you want to? Just because I I

958
01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:42,039
can't even look in the camera right
now, I don't want to come across

959
01:13:42,079 --> 01:13:47,279
like I'm, you know, jumping
out her spot. So uh, there's

960
01:13:47,319 --> 01:13:51,279
a lot of stories going on in
Twin Peaks, and they're masterfully told.

961
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:58,439
Uh. But there's one thread that
goes through the original series, the film

962
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,159
fire Walk with Me, which I
just saw in the movie theaters two weeks

963
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:05,520
ago, and I'm going to see
it again in a theater. I've seen

964
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,720
it. I've seen it five times
in the movie theater, and it is

965
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:14,520
the most horrifying experience to see it
in a in a film, I mean

966
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:21,079
in the theater. There is this
story in Twin Peaks and one of the

967
01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:27,920
stories, and it is the most
accurate portrayal of that of this kind of

968
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,279
story I've ever seen, and I
can speak to it personally. And I

969
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:34,159
know this might be shocking for one
to be the first one who's hearing about

970
01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:40,560
this since he's known my family for
decades, but it is the best depiction

971
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:46,439
of child abuse I've ever seen,
okay ever and because what it does,

972
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:55,479
it shows the arc of this character
who's being physically and sexually abused. We're

973
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,359
talking about Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks. I walked with me the movie.

974
01:14:59,399 --> 01:15:03,159
Okay, go ahead, and then
it goes into the movie to get the

975
01:15:04,319 --> 01:15:13,720
nuanced background of this abuse. And
I've seen so many other stories about abuse

976
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,600
and it's very sad and the fallout
and all this stuff. The truth that

977
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:24,520
Twin Peaks gets is the self destructive
nature of the victim, the heavy drinking,

978
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,680
which is something I did. Being
real shitty to your friends and the

979
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,560
people that love you, which is
what I did. All of these self

980
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:41,600
destructive behaviors that start because of abuse, and thank goodness, through therapy,

981
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:48,039
I was able to get past it. But then it goes on to the

982
01:15:48,079 --> 01:15:57,279
return, which drops the biggest bombshell
on this whole story is that you find

983
01:15:57,279 --> 01:16:01,159
out that the person that was sexually
abusing her was sexually abuse themselves. And

984
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:09,279
then it becomes this story about generation
and how this child made the decision to

985
01:16:10,119 --> 01:16:15,800
be the one that's going to stop
this ongoing circle of abuse. It is

986
01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:26,000
masterfully told, so is the These
are very heavy, you know, issues

987
01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:30,319
and stuff. Does the re for
it to be to explored on broadcast television

988
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,760
on the big three networks is insane? Right? Is it right? I

989
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:39,720
understand? I get that. Does
the casual view will pick up on these

990
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:45,359
things? I have to watch it, watch it. I think that later

991
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:49,840
generations of viewers have picked up on
the deep dive into it. Okay,

992
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:54,640
yeah, I'll tell you what.
Whenever I go see fire Walk with Me

993
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:01,760
in a movie theater, which I
do consider part of the television series it,

994
01:17:02,279 --> 01:17:09,399
whenever I go see it. There
is always there's always people that have

995
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:14,520
not they've they've both not seen the
film and for some reason have never seen

996
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:23,640
Twin Peaks. And the first thing
and what you will see is and and

997
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:30,279
it's it's so sad every time get
up, and there's at least five women

998
01:17:30,399 --> 01:17:38,079
in the audience that can't stand up, that are in absolute shock at what

999
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:42,319
they just saw. They thought they
were going to go see this movie about

1000
01:17:42,359 --> 01:17:47,880
this quirky town and murder, and
what they got was, well, that's

1001
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:53,479
in fire walk with me, this
story. That's a good that's a good

1002
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,239
film, you know, I mean
a film that if if if you do

1003
01:17:56,319 --> 01:17:59,800
a film and you know, people
can't get out of their seats after because

1004
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,960
they're so emotionally involved, that's good. So listen, So what's your what's

1005
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:08,279
your least favorite? I can't wait
to hear? Okay now now now I'm

1006
01:18:08,319 --> 01:18:12,399
gonna get fired. Now I'll get
fiery and fun. Okay, So sorry,

1007
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,600
sorry to go down the dark path, but Twin Peaks, but it

1008
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,439
does mean a lot to me personally. The worst TV show I've ever seen

1009
01:18:20,199 --> 01:18:26,640
is actually a recent one. It's
this piece of dog shit called Dexter.

1010
01:18:27,239 --> 01:18:29,880
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, oh okay, yeah, yeah,

1011
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,399
yeah yeah. Now heavily promoted the
first two I'm sorry, go ahead,

1012
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:40,279
heavily promoted heavily you know what I
mean, promoted like France was. You

1013
01:18:40,319 --> 01:18:46,880
know, go ahead, I'm sorry. There's some background here. It was

1014
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:51,199
shown on Showtime and oddly enough,
with the exception of Twin Peaks, the

1015
01:18:51,279 --> 01:18:58,479
Return where Lynch negotiated control and complete
control over the show. Showtime has a

1016
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,479
reputation of ruining all of their good
shows. Okay, they've done it time

1017
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,960
and time again. They ruined Homeland, they ruined Masters of Sex, Home

1018
01:19:08,039 --> 01:19:11,960
ruined people. Tell me they ruined
Weeds. I never saw weeds. But

1019
01:19:12,119 --> 01:19:15,039
listen, let me stop you right
there, isn't Homeland a perfect example what

1020
01:19:15,079 --> 01:19:21,359
I said before, the first two
years of Homeland unbelievably like compelling and you

1021
01:19:21,399 --> 01:19:26,000
bet, you know, in fast
moving and stuff. And then when they

1022
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,439
get fit, when they get popular, down the drain man just it's so

1023
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:38,000
quickly went downhill. You know.
Showtime loves the money, and if the

1024
01:19:38,119 --> 01:19:43,840
natural conclusion of a story is going
to threaten their money, they intervened.

1025
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:49,880
And the perfect example of this is
Dexter because it conveys right away the natural

1026
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,439
ending of the show. In the
first episode, the basic premise is that

1027
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,800
he's a serial killer who only kills
other serial killers with a hot Yes,

1028
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,279
he's a serial killer with a hot
right, But it's projected right away that

1029
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,720
in the end, the last serial
killer he's going to have to kill is

1030
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:13,800
himself. Yes, yes, that
was apparent right away. Yeah yeah,

1031
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,359
yeah yeah. So but they they
they didn't go with that, right they

1032
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:24,359
know. They went eight seasons,
yeah, they they kept saying that they

1033
01:20:24,399 --> 01:20:29,359
were leading to it, and then
in the last season the executives at Showtime

1034
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,680
intervened. The writer's room was scrambling, and it just went in this direction

1035
01:20:34,079 --> 01:20:40,800
where the whole season was dog shit. Yep. And it literally ends with

1036
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:45,439
him like walking away scott free because
Showtime, of course, wanted to bring

1037
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,039
it back a few years later to
continue it, which is what they did.

1038
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:53,000
Yep. I can see that.
I can see. It's when I

1039
01:20:53,039 --> 01:20:56,840
get to my favorite and word shows. It's the exact same thing, you

1040
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,199
know, it's the same thing.
It's that you know, you like,

1041
01:21:00,279 --> 01:21:01,680
I'm just going to throw another example
out there. This isn't one of my

1042
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,119
shows, but we all know it. Breaking bad, Okay, breaking bad,

1043
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:11,319
the first season of Breaking Bad,
if you remember, it ends after

1044
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:16,359
what's his name, you know,
does a bad thing to that girl who's

1045
01:21:16,359 --> 01:21:21,039
the drug addict in the hotel.
And then the last scene is that plane

1046
01:21:21,359 --> 01:21:27,439
exploding in the in the little girl's
dog coming down that you come up.

1047
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,880
Okay, ended there, and you
know they were going to end it there.

1048
01:21:31,279 --> 01:21:35,439
But what happened is what you just
said. It got popular, let's

1049
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:41,640
scramble. It was good. It
was okay after that, but nothing beats

1050
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,600
the first season. The first season
is like, oh my goodness, you

1051
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,000
know, yeah, and that was
a great way to end it, but

1052
01:21:46,039 --> 01:21:49,520
they didn't. But they didn't,
you know, but anyway, go ahead,

1053
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,159
traveling, I will say, I'm
sorry, go ahead, I'm sorry

1054
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:57,600
to interrupt. Go ahead please.
I did watch the I don't remember if

1055
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,920
it was just still Dexter or if
they renamed it something different, whatever it

1056
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,840
was, but when they when Schuhan
brought Dexter back, I watched it because

1057
01:22:05,079 --> 01:22:11,560
so yes and no, like Clancy
Brown wasn't it and that was amazing,

1058
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:17,760
Like the actors were phenomenal and I
very much enjoyed that it was in where

1059
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:23,680
were they were they named Canada?
I don't remember to Canada at the end

1060
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:29,960
of the it's not like that they
were in a snowy area and I really

1061
01:22:30,039 --> 01:22:31,520
I love the winter. So like
for me, that was like a big

1062
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:38,279
plus. It was fine, but
it's like you said, like you knew

1063
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:43,760
he was going to ultimately be like
the final boss if you will type of

1064
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,079
thing. So it's like, I
don't want to like, you know,

1065
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:49,960
spoil anything, but come on,
we all know. But it's like for

1066
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:55,199
me, like that show peeked with
John Lithgow and they should have ended it

1067
01:22:55,239 --> 01:23:00,960
there because I mean, he was
just such a great villain and the fact

1068
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,960
that they continued it after that really
bummed me out. But I did want

1069
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,760
to watch it just so I could
because I already finished, you know,

1070
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,000
the original run of it. So
I was like, let me just finish

1071
01:23:09,079 --> 01:23:11,960
it. And it was fine,
you know, yeah whatever. But it's

1072
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,720
like Trevors said, it said,
you know, when you're when you're popular,

1073
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,439
is the end of a story means
the end of your money trail.

1074
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:23,000
And you don't want that. You
know, you'll do anything, you know

1075
01:23:23,079 --> 01:23:26,000
to keep it going, you know, so he listen, time, I'll

1076
01:23:26,039 --> 01:23:29,479
keep it going. We're gonna take
a very quick break here now and we'll

1077
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,920
be right back after this. You
listen to mcnoy's Hollywood X Files here on

1078
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:40,199
the distance thunder Radio networay please stay
too so I see you hear us next

1079
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:43,000
time. This is mac Nwani for
the entire gang saying, be safe,

1080
01:23:43,079 --> 01:23:46,880
be happy and by bye. Okay, the show's over. Hey, kbra,

1081
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,199
where are we going to eat tonight? Well, gentlemen, what do

1082
01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:53,520
you feel like? Chines eats Italian
sushi? How about we go where they

1083
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,279
have the best hamburg in the world? And where would that be? One

1084
01:23:56,319 --> 01:24:00,239
one? Only the Starboard Gally,
Starboard Gally. They're a great seafood place.

1085
01:24:00,359 --> 01:24:03,439
But they're a New gray Port and
we're an Exeter but they're only twenty

1086
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:08,000
minutes away down Route ninety five.
And believe me, they have the best

1087
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:17,600
hamburger in the world. Let's go, okay, boys, license and registration?

1088
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,000
Where's the fire? You clown's going
through the circus Berna Hari just to

1089
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:25,239
get the best hamburger in the world. And where's that Pally? That's the

1090
01:24:25,279 --> 01:24:29,680
Starboard Gallley, Newburg. A great
seafood place, yes, but they make

1091
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,439
a great hamburger too, and they
start with the best peep super fresh buns,

1092
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,600
great topics. Wells, it's only
twenty minutes of weak from Exeter twenty

1093
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:44,239
five reportsman that with a police ascot. Buddy, light them up, Switchblade,

1094
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:55,239
Starboard Galley, they're here. That's
the Starboard Gally fifty five Water Street,

1095
01:24:55,279 --> 01:25:00,199
newbray porton great seafood and the best
Hamburger in the world. And tell

1096
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:46,039
them one one that you rarely welcome
back if we went to Macaloney's Hollywood X

1097
01:25:46,079 --> 01:25:50,199
Files. Here on the distant Thundet
Radio network. This is McLarney. What

1098
01:25:50,319 --> 01:25:54,039
a show we have for you tonight. Girls, he's still here, the

1099
01:25:54,119 --> 01:25:57,760
very famous one one hanging in there
by a thread. Yes, I am,

1100
01:25:58,279 --> 01:26:01,239
ladies and gentlemen, my favorite girls
that are out there that write to

1101
01:26:01,279 --> 01:26:06,000
me occasionally. Interesting, really yeah, I keep those I haven't been written

1102
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,840
to in a while, so I
don't know. It must have something I

1103
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,880
said. But well, happy to
be on the show as always, and

1104
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,560
wow, I lived for this.
Okay, there's a top ten in there

1105
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:23,159
somehow. Thank you. Also with
us is Switchblade Steve. What Switchy Great

1106
01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:25,359
to be here tonight, Matt.
Okay, all right, I don't want

1107
01:26:25,359 --> 01:26:28,039
to how are your segment? But
what did you have for breakfast today?

1108
01:26:29,319 --> 01:26:32,600
Well, I had the same thing
I did last week, pancake and some

1109
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,399
bacon. But for dinner tonight,
I had to go down to Huntington.

1110
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:42,920
Oh I stopped by waffle House.
I got there waffle House, oh Man

1111
01:26:43,319 --> 01:26:46,159
for eleven bucks plus a couple of
bucks coffee. Oh come on, do

1112
01:26:46,279 --> 01:26:51,479
you know waffle house. You get
a waffle, you get a couple eggs

1113
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:56,800
cooked your way, you get either
either sausage, bacon, or ham,

1114
01:26:57,359 --> 01:27:01,159
and you get hash browns. Oh
yeah, I love those. I think

1115
01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:05,600
that deserves a round of them.
Yes, all right, Yeah, it's

1116
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:10,520
a real about forty five fifty minutes
to get to the closest waffle waffle house.

1117
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,680
Yeah yeah. So also the place
they had the big paddle on the

1118
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:20,920
wall and you could paddle yourself.
Well okay, I wish I okay,

1119
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,239
that was really good. That might
be in San Francisco someplace. Okay.

1120
01:27:25,359 --> 01:27:30,479
Yeah. That waffle house also had
flesh lights. I mean, you know

1121
01:27:30,079 --> 01:27:34,199
a new special, the worm.
Anyway, that's how they served your Coca

1122
01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:40,119
Cola. I worked Atlanta for two
weeks. There's a waffle house at every

1123
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:45,279
dish on both sides of the highway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're

1124
01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:46,399
going to ask me if I let
this is one place I can leave a

1125
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:50,159
tip? Oh really? Yeah?
Huh okay, so uh so let's say

1126
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:54,319
it was a loved Bucks so you
you threw down it was thirteen bucks with

1127
01:27:54,399 --> 01:27:59,920
coffee. They're about okay, so
you threw down seventeen bucks. I kipped

1128
01:28:00,039 --> 01:28:04,600
in books ten. But she must
have been beautiful, you know. And

1129
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:09,439
I thought, and it's waffle?
And what was her name? What was

1130
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:13,000
you? Waitress? Is his name? I don't know. I want to

1131
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,960
say, Okay, can you send
us pic? Yeah? That sounds right.

1132
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:21,960
Yeah, Louise was off that day. Also with us is uh said

1133
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:27,319
something about the quick Picker upper.
Wh wait, don't say that wrong.

1134
01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:32,239
Also with us is the waitress of
Dreams. Raven up there in sideways,

1135
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,399
raving? Were you? Did you
work at the Dunkin Donuts or something?

1136
01:28:36,399 --> 01:28:41,600
Did you manage the Dunkin Donuts or
something? Or did? I've worked at

1137
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:47,600
a lot of various food and retail
companies throughout the years. Have you ever

1138
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:54,439
been to Bondtender Donuts? Oh?
God, yeah, yeah, don't blame

1139
01:28:54,479 --> 01:29:00,239
her, you know, I just
cants in New York. Yeah, yeah,

1140
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:05,279
Raven, did you have you ever
been a bartender? No, I'm

1141
01:29:05,279 --> 01:29:11,399
a bartender for myself. I make
a really good drink that I believe,

1142
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,319
But you would be the I don't
want it. This is probably gonna sound

1143
01:29:14,399 --> 01:29:16,560
bad, but you would be the
perfect bondtender, you know what I mean?

1144
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:20,800
You would you engage that all the
drunken people at the bar, and

1145
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:25,960
you know, kind of like the
show. So here's the thing we're on,

1146
01:29:26,079 --> 01:29:30,680
Like, you know, a show. I'm not like nice really,

1147
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:39,640
so like I wouldn't be like a
good really yeah on the show? Okay,

1148
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,319
yeah, like you know this is
an act. She's doing it for

1149
01:29:42,399 --> 01:29:47,399
us. You just misunderstood. That's
all that voice you just heard, is

1150
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:56,880
uh? You home testify to that
for sure. Anyway, Well, thanks

1151
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,760
for joining us. We should let's
start the cow now. We might have

1152
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:06,319
to get out of here soon.
But you can tell how dysfunctional I am

1153
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:12,560
when I could admit that a woman
saying that she's not nice or a really

1154
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:20,039
mean person in real life is the
most attractive thing I've please. And I'll

1155
01:30:20,039 --> 01:30:26,840
take another I'll take another hit for
the Okay. Trevor Chamberlain guest tonight.

1156
01:30:27,279 --> 01:30:30,079
I'm just going to introduce him now
he's going to change his name soon.

1157
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,840
But thank you for you know,
for inserting that. As the kids said,

1158
01:30:35,359 --> 01:30:40,680
good thanks for having your media guy
media raza in Boston. Is that

1159
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:46,920
it okay? All right? Yep? Yeah, there's a lot going on

1160
01:30:47,039 --> 01:30:51,479
here. Yes, they shoot a
lot more films here. Yes. I

1161
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:55,560
never got involved with those. I
did live events, I did sports,

1162
01:30:55,560 --> 01:31:00,239
I did concerts, a lot of
interviews, you know, I'm on that

1163
01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:04,840
side of it. I don't as
much as I love film, the actual

1164
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:10,319
workflow, the day to day work, you know. I can't do fourteen

1165
01:31:10,399 --> 01:31:12,800
sixteen hour day. Yeah, those
that sucks. Yes, Yes, I

1166
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:16,399
used to do commercials for Zaya's,
a big department store. It'd be like

1167
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:21,920
eighteen hours. Everyone's coked up,
but may it was just horrible, horrible

1168
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:28,079
stuff. But they wonder why cocaine
is still rampant in the industry. Like

1169
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:32,000
that's unbelievable in the industry, believable. This is back when I was in

1170
01:31:32,039 --> 01:31:36,000
film school. Real quick, I
did go and I got a job on

1171
01:31:36,079 --> 01:31:43,479
a production company that did ads for
Zayas Membersayas guys, right, And we

1172
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,479
would go into this store. We
went to the store in Saugust at like

1173
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:51,600
eight o'clock at n I kicked everyone
out and would stay there until at least

1174
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:58,039
eight or nine the next morning.
And I was the assistant to somebody assistant

1175
01:31:58,239 --> 01:32:00,920
who knows, Okay, so I
had to like pick up the cameraman and

1176
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:05,960
the assistant director at at the airport, right, and the assistant director is

1177
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:09,880
the guy who's really in charge,
but that's another story, okay. And

1178
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,000
I picked him up, and I'm
driving. I'm like the gopher, Okay.

1179
01:32:13,279 --> 01:32:15,880
I drive from the airport to the
site. And they get out and

1180
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:19,880
they're unpacking their stuff, and the
guy goes into his uh, into his

1181
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:25,640
luggage and he comes out with appear
a dirty white athletics socks. Okay,

1182
01:32:26,199 --> 01:32:30,520
and I'm you know, I'm and
there's like about half a pile of cocaine

1183
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,039
in there. And this is before
they would search you. And they say

1184
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:36,279
they never go for the smelly socks. You know, this is long before,

1185
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:44,520
and everyone was like, just coked. That's a great idea, yeah,

1186
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,720
really back then, and and and
you know, and and I suppose

1187
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,239
they thought, and I'm the only
guy who's not in on this all right,

1188
01:32:50,319 --> 01:32:54,520
because I had a family connection to
the people. I didn't want my

1189
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,680
parents to know him, you know, blowing up and and I suppose I

1190
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:00,600
tried it helped them, but it
all did is just get you through the

1191
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,680
night, you know what I mean. Didn't add to the creativity and one

1192
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,760
of that stuff, you know.
But yeah, that was that was like

1193
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:10,960
my first one of my first jobs, soon out of film school. So

1194
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,840
anyway, so listen, we're all
this. I didn't know. I didn't

1195
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,680
introduce everybody. Trevior, that's your
introduction, doctor Bob. What's up pulse

1196
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:21,760
tonight? What's the prognosis? Hey, I'll tell you this is exciting a

1197
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:28,960
bunch of filmmakers hanging out telling the
story. Yeah, Devin's I'm boring normally,

1198
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:30,880
but I agree with you. Okay. You know it's too bad club

1199
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,880
isn't here because he's saying, right
now, you know, I've learned a

1200
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,640
lot tonight. Yes, this is
really a great show. Right yeah,

1201
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:42,680
yeah, yeah. While he's eating
his chin and he's eating treats in between

1202
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,800
taking potshots up my hair, he
has to pass. I feel like he

1203
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:49,359
was behind the lens throughout the whole
show, right, he's looking in on

1204
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:54,439
us, also with us as super
literary agent. Jim Frankel, Jim how

1205
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,119
you doing. I'm good, I'm
good. What are you drinking that?

1206
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,359
Ask me my favorite and least favorite
shows? Okay, are you drinking scotch?

1207
01:34:01,399 --> 01:34:05,079
There is that? What's in that
class? No? What class?

1208
01:34:05,199 --> 01:34:10,000
Okay? Listen, So why don't
we Why don't we throw to you first?

1209
01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:14,399
Okay, I've introduced everyone close to
them. Now let's go to you,

1210
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:15,319
Jim, We're going to go to
one one first. Well, let's

1211
01:34:15,319 --> 01:34:20,119
go to you first. So you've
been around you were me and entertainment super

1212
01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:24,000
literary agent, et cetera, et
cetera. You watch a lot of TV.

1213
01:34:24,119 --> 01:34:29,199
I'm guessing well, depends on the
on the decade. Okay, decade,

1214
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,560
I've watched very little. Okay,
that's a lot, and most of

1215
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,520
the time in between. Okay,
so you have a least favorite show,

1216
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:40,640
So let me you do any the
least favorite first. Do you want it?

1217
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,079
Okay? All right? See,
you know I have a feeling there

1218
01:34:43,119 --> 01:34:50,520
was a show called t H.
E. Cates Robert Loggia as a second

1219
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:57,840
story guy who was actually a good
guy. Yep. And you know it

1220
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:02,279
was a great concept. I thought, terrific concept, except for one small

1221
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:09,119
problem. There were no plots,
so he was what was he was going

1222
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:13,399
that happens was burglar. He was
a good burglar, right, he was

1223
01:35:13,399 --> 01:35:15,479
a burglar with a gold type thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1224
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:20,720
I remember that. I remember the
title the second story guy. But

1225
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:27,600
this setup was great, a great
setup. But whoever was writing it had

1226
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:32,159
no idea about story how to do
it? Yeah yeah, funny yeah yeah,

1227
01:35:32,199 --> 01:35:36,000
And that was so frustrating. I
wanted to if if if I had

1228
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:40,560
had more than one TV, I
would have thrown a shoe through the one.

1229
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:45,239
Yeah right, Okay, interesting,
Okay, So, so favorite show.

1230
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:46,800
I got a feeling you're going to
say friends. Are you going to

1231
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:51,119
say friends? And we're just gonna
be disappointed? Okay, No, I've

1232
01:35:51,159 --> 01:35:56,319
watched some Friends. I only have
watched Some Friends since Matthew Perry died,

1233
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:01,119
just because I was curious. But
it's OK. But it's got the flaws

1234
01:36:01,159 --> 01:36:05,640
of a lot of those ensemble shows
in that it's a limit. As somebody

1235
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:11,159
pointed out, there's a limit to
the permutations, to the combinations of what

1236
01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:14,319
you can do. And it seemed
to me like it was an endless cycle

1237
01:36:14,359 --> 01:36:18,239
of one's everyone else so and so
loves so and so does Yeah, I'm

1238
01:36:18,359 --> 01:36:23,239
going to get married oh god knows, no one loves anyone like move on,

1239
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:29,279
so so forget about that. But
a quick question that did can't last

1240
01:36:29,319 --> 01:36:31,560
a full one season or just a
half a season? Do you remember?

1241
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,720
I don't think it lasted more than
a half a season. Okay, I

1242
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:41,560
think you're right. That'd be thirteen
episodes back then when they probably something like

1243
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:45,800
that. But that's for my favorite
show. I think my favorite show.

1244
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:51,720
You know, there's there there's a
lot of good TV right now, you

1245
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:57,560
know, the last few years there's
been really peaked TV. Don't that excuse

1246
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:03,600
everything. But back in the day, there's another another show called Saint Elsewhere,

1247
01:37:05,239 --> 01:37:12,399
which was which is Tom Fontana,
very early Tom Fontana, and it

1248
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:16,640
was originally I think Boo was involved
as well. Yeah, yeah, and

1249
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:23,880
that show terrific cast, great cast
and great writing, and the characters were

1250
01:37:24,119 --> 01:37:29,119
just really they weren't you know,
they were all complicated characters. It was.

1251
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:32,199
It was very you know, the
characterization can make such a difference,

1252
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:39,359
and the writing obviously is what does
that addition to these But do you really

1253
01:37:39,359 --> 01:37:42,560
want to see a show about a
gritty hospital? I can see being a

1254
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:47,279
gritty police wasn't just that it was
a gritty hospital. It was also very

1255
01:37:47,319 --> 01:37:51,279
funny. Do you want a funny
hospital? Do you really want to find?

1256
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,840
It was very strange. It was
strange, it was. It was

1257
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,560
an odd show. Yeah, I
do. It was an odd, odd

1258
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:04,000
show. My favorite episode was probably
the one where somebody goes to heaven.

1259
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:08,840
Oh that's good. Yeah. Music. They had a musical at least one

1260
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,880
musical episode. I remember that,
yeah, which was just off the wall

1261
01:38:13,319 --> 01:38:18,760
and really they broke so many rules
and it was it was great fun.

1262
01:38:19,239 --> 01:38:23,279
It was a if you have a
funny hospital, just like you can have

1263
01:38:23,319 --> 01:38:28,520
a funny person of wark there.
You always say that. Imagine the guys

1264
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,800
who go into the pitch meeting and
they're going to pitch Hogan's heroes and they

1265
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:36,079
go, okay, now listen,
just listen to us here for a second.

1266
01:38:36,119 --> 01:38:43,840
Okay, it's a funny show by
the Nazi walk half insane. No,

1267
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,760
no, listen to us, listen
to us. And it gone on

1268
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,239
that show. That was show a
huge here. It was like on for

1269
01:38:48,319 --> 01:38:51,720
eight years. It was funny in
a way. Yep. And they say

1270
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:57,119
the secret is will make the Nazis
such morons that it will be funny,

1271
01:38:57,159 --> 01:39:00,239
And that's how they did it every
Nazi and is a moron of course us

1272
01:39:00,279 --> 01:39:02,920
so yeah, woking seers. So
yeah, it's at elswhere it was.

1273
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,680
It's it's a it's a famous show. It was around for a while,

1274
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:10,199
lot around and reruns a lot.
It all looked great. It always kind

1275
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:13,520
of looked grainy and kind of dock
to me, you know, kind of

1276
01:39:14,319 --> 01:39:16,279
you know, like you're in a
really bad, funny hospital type thing.

1277
01:39:17,079 --> 01:39:19,399
Well it was supposed to be a
bad hospital. Yeah, yeah, that's

1278
01:39:19,399 --> 01:39:23,399
what I mean. It's like Boston
City Hospital. I don't want to yeah,

1279
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:27,439
okay, well Jim, so let
me go to Uncle el here,

1280
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,720
Uncle Allen, and then we'll go
to street. Don't want to take one

1281
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,920
one now, we'll go to one
one one, and then I'll go last.

1282
01:39:32,039 --> 01:39:35,000
Okay, if we have time,
go ahead, be quick, okay,

1283
01:39:35,079 --> 01:39:40,399
okay, this will be fairly quick. Okay. Best TV show ever

1284
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:44,159
start the original Star Trek. Yeah
that's true. Yeah, it went from

1285
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:48,119
when do you think about it?
It went from cowboys and Indians and maybe

1286
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:54,239
maybe some detectives to it puts sci
fi on the map. It was,

1287
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:59,039
you know, they pitched it to
Lucille Ball from Desilu and they said it's

1288
01:39:59,079 --> 01:40:01,840
going to be in space. It's
gonna be it's gonna be wagon train in

1289
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:06,199
space, and it's it was gonna
be a wagon trained to the stars,

1290
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,840
is the way they sold. And
she thought it meant wagon trained a lot

1291
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:15,439
of Star people on it, you
know, Star, and so she green

1292
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,079
lighted it. So I mean that's
I mean. I remember as a kid

1293
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,640
watching the original Star Trek and I
used to have to go to my friend's

1294
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:26,760
house on Thursday nights to watch it
because he had a color TV and it

1295
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:30,920
was in color. And I remember
like just sitting there and just been blown

1296
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:35,000
away by it was good as the
Star Trek and nothing. Well, that

1297
01:40:35,039 --> 01:40:39,840
way you could tell who was wearing
the red shirts was gonna die? Yeah,

1298
01:40:40,319 --> 01:40:43,359
who had no name? It was
a guy. It was always the

1299
01:40:43,399 --> 01:40:46,079
guy in the away team that didn't
have a name. He always died.

1300
01:40:46,239 --> 01:40:51,920
The guest star you know, well, I haven't seen him before he gets

1301
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,760
fried by somebody. But talk about
an iconic TV show, I mean really,

1302
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,680
I mean, I think they figured
out that more people in the in

1303
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,479
the and you know, in twentieth
century, more people followed Star Trek up,

1304
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,000
you know, more than anything else, you know, Star Wars,

1305
01:41:05,119 --> 01:41:09,680
whatever, more things have came out
of came out of start Track, those

1306
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:13,920
Star Trek conventions. Oh my god. Yeah. It was only on for

1307
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,439
two years, two and a half
years, you know, I mean,

1308
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:20,600
I'll think about the demographics. This
was before they did they canceled Star Trek

1309
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:26,399
before they did demographics, and then
they found out with the reruns that was

1310
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:30,760
it was perfect. It was exactly
what the advertisers want. And every year,

1311
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,199
the second season and third season,
the suits, the TV weasels kept

1312
01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:39,079
cutting the budget. Yeah yeah,
yeah, really yeah, and that's why

1313
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,039
they had no money, no money
for sets and stuff. So they would

1314
01:41:43,239 --> 01:41:45,119
beam down to the gangs to plan
that they beamed down for the cow.

1315
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,279
Great it was, yeah, but
it was so called the stories shows.

1316
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:53,800
They were just on board the thing, flashing lights, trying to take over

1317
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:58,079
people. My favorite episode was a
piece of the action, which was where

1318
01:41:58,079 --> 01:42:00,119
they were to go down the gangs
and the gangs. It was perfect,

1319
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,840
really, I mean, it was
excellent. Your worst show, worst show,

1320
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:08,079
here we go, television show.
Worst show is the City on the

1321
01:42:08,159 --> 01:42:12,399
Edge of Forever. That Joan Collins, and she when she gave a talk

1322
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,479
at one of the Star Trek events, she said, people remember her As

1323
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:19,520
who was a Alexus, that bitch
on Dynasty. Y know, I was

1324
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:27,279
that nice Edith Keeler, Yes,
she certainly was. Remember remember we had

1325
01:42:27,279 --> 01:42:30,479
the uh, we had the Gone. The guy who actually played the Gone

1326
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,479
on the show a few Yes,
I remember him. Yeah, he was

1327
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:36,319
good. Yeah, he either went
out in the des and went a drunk.

1328
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:40,399
I don't know. He was boiling
in that. Yeah, yeah,

1329
01:42:40,399 --> 01:42:44,279
he was a he was a he
was a very famous stunt double and cowboy

1330
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,439
cowboy movies and stuff, and that
he put the rubber suit on. He

1331
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:54,880
was boiling it. That was that's
last last star trek thing would be Oh

1332
01:42:54,960 --> 01:43:00,800
the was it of h Well,
you know the Troyas. Yes, she

1333
01:43:01,119 --> 01:43:08,680
was unbelievable righteous woman. So that
would be my best. What's the worst?

1334
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:15,359
Worst would be anything from that point
forward with a laugh track with smart

1335
01:43:15,399 --> 01:43:18,399
ass kids that you know, that's
my parents. What what's going on?

1336
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:23,439
I hate that? I mean any
I have I mean you guys are talking

1337
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:30,840
about shows like Friends, full House, Seinfeldt. I've never seen a single

1338
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:35,159
episode twin Peaks. Nothing. Sorry, as soon as I get a look

1339
01:43:35,159 --> 01:43:45,880
at win Peaks does not have a
laugh track anything. Watch it's what's any

1340
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:50,840
of those anything, any any current
sitcom sitcoms to me, some of the

1341
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:56,119
funny not Fanny, but I have
to stick up a modern family. Modern

1342
01:43:56,159 --> 01:43:59,560
family has kind of Fanny never saw
it. Seinfeldt was funny in the first

1343
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,800
few years we talked about before Big
Bang Theory, the first couple of years.

1344
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,520
Now, how about this for a
pitch. Nerds get hot chicks.

1345
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:11,399
I mean that's what it is.
And it's like, how these nerds get

1346
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:15,720
really good looking girlfriends beyond all rational
you know, explanation for it. That's

1347
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:20,000
a great concept. But when they
all have girlfriends, they turned it into

1348
01:44:20,039 --> 01:44:24,039
friends, literally into friends. They
should have they should have just made it

1349
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,520
Revenge of the Nerds the movie.
Yeah right, okay, but yeah,

1350
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:34,319
yeah, in one movie done,
I'm gonna go We're gonna go one one

1351
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:39,039
one because we're running out of time. We don't want to rush him one

1352
01:44:39,079 --> 01:44:46,840
one. What is your favorite TV
show all time? Falty Towers Americans.

1353
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:54,600
I thought you were actually the storyline
was based on a hotel. He actually,

1354
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:59,439
yeah, it's funny. But then
along with uh, the Monty Python

1355
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:04,159
Troop. Nothing, Python's funny.
Great, It's alright, it's okay,

1356
01:45:04,399 --> 01:45:08,520
It's it's funny. It was only
on for two seasons, six episodes.

1357
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:12,159
Really, yeah, Mac, don't
forget I'm going to deport you because you

1358
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:15,359
don't like cats. That's right,
so you can be on my side.

1359
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,239
Wind up in Siberia. Well,
and what's your least favorite one? Faulty

1360
01:45:18,279 --> 01:45:21,840
Towels, Sam and Pam and Tom
Pam and Tommy. The movie was terrible?

1361
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:27,479
Yes, yes, really? And
series that private take, I haven't

1362
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:31,840
nothing that bad. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, he has a personal

1363
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,840
steak in it. Well, he
has a personal stake in it. Lily

1364
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:43,359
James played Pamla Suer innocent. That's
the stand was the greatest. It's incredible

1365
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:47,520
casting, incredible casting for someone like
her who came from my down on Abbey

1366
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:51,880
to you know, Lily James,
the Love of my life from Johnson Abbey,

1367
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,800
Lady Rose go ahead, and for
other cool movies that she's been in

1368
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,399
since then. Yes, but Pam
and Tommy just me throw up. Really

1369
01:46:00,399 --> 01:46:04,199
and I was watching it, I
really did. I really wanted to like

1370
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:09,800
it because of the prurient interest I
had in the movie, in the series,

1371
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:15,680
because of the plot line was you
know, you know what the plot

1372
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:21,600
line was. Their sex tape was
released by this guy by Seth Rogan Ohn

1373
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:26,840
right, yeah, he did that, right okay, and he stole the

1374
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,960
tape and then released it and got
all kinds of money. Did the ship

1375
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:35,000
hit the fan? But you know, uh, I was stunned and shocked

1376
01:46:35,039 --> 01:46:41,560
at at how what Lily James had
to go through to look like she did.

1377
01:46:42,239 --> 01:46:47,000
She acted well in it, but
she really came across as Pam Anders

1378
01:46:47,039 --> 01:46:54,520
said, go ahead, but it
it disturbed me because of this is how

1379
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:59,399
when an actress, to me gets
maybe a little bit type casted. I've

1380
01:46:59,399 --> 01:47:02,279
always saw a once in Downton Abbey. That was the only time I met

1381
01:47:02,279 --> 01:47:05,920
her. You know, I expected
her to be like Downton Abbey, not

1382
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:12,920
in this movie. But it's it's
like blurred my vision of how she was

1383
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:15,399
supposed to be as an actress.
Well, he's been good, that's God.

1384
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:20,479
Yes, okay, you need I
can. I can salvage her for

1385
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:25,880
you. She just did a movie, an excellent movie that not a lot

1386
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,960
of people saw, and I encourage
all of you to see it. She

1387
01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:31,840
was just in this film called The
Iron Claw, which was about the von

1388
01:47:32,119 --> 01:47:39,039
Eric brothers who were wrestlers in the
ear And I'm not spoiling any of them

1389
01:47:39,279 --> 01:47:44,199
anything. So many of the brothers
committed suicide, so much debt. And

1390
01:47:44,279 --> 01:47:47,439
she gives a performance in that film
as the wife of one of the von

1391
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:55,000
Eric brothers, and she is seen
amazing. She's it's a great it's a

1392
01:47:55,039 --> 01:47:59,159
great movie. Yes, it is
actually good, very good good movies.

1393
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,159
She's a the movie Yesterday about a
guy against content in the head and he

1394
01:48:02,199 --> 01:48:06,359
comes back and there's no Beatle music
in the world he but he knows Beetle

1395
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:10,720
music. She's really good in that. You know, she's one of these

1396
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:12,680
people. I hate to say it, but you know, soon as she's

1397
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,760
on the screen, boom, you
fall in love with her, you know

1398
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:16,439
what I mean. He can't take
your eyes off her, all that kind

1399
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:20,239
of stuff. And she's just really
good in that. And then I start

1400
01:48:20,319 --> 01:48:26,439
out and not outtakes by bits and
pieces of Pam and Tommy, and I

1401
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,760
was like, wow, what what
did you do here? You know?

1402
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,800
Maybe she just wants to stretch or
whatever. Okay, So anyway, so

1403
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,960
one one those are your best in
your ears left guitarer is the best.

1404
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:42,079
Pam and Tommy. I have kind
of like a recency bias on that move.

1405
01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:45,439
Maybe there's worst movies TV series I've
seen, but Pam and Tommy takes

1406
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,880
it. Yeah, that's it's pretty
bad, just a bad movie. So

1407
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:53,479
I think it's just me right left, it must be Yeah, I think

1408
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,359
you're it. Okay, So I'm
gonna say this will be funny. It

1409
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,319
might not be that funny. I'm
gonna say. My favorite, really looking

1410
01:49:00,359 --> 01:49:04,880
back on it, and just effective
TV show, just like an effective TV

1411
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:09,880
show was The X Files. Oddly
enough, okay, when it first came

1412
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:14,319
on once again, the first two
years, the first two years of that,

1413
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:17,159
I just I hate these the word
compelling, but it is. And

1414
01:49:17,199 --> 01:49:20,399
the chemistry was right. And here's
an odd thing too, you know,

1415
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:24,840
just looking at it from you know, a guy's point of view, what's

1416
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:30,279
your name? Who is the redhead? At the time, she was very

1417
01:49:30,359 --> 01:49:33,159
unusual looking on TV. Okay,
she's not this kind of classic puge,

1418
01:49:33,199 --> 01:49:36,680
but once again, it's one of
these you know, you couldn't keep your

1419
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:40,960
eyes off her, you know,
she's and they put her in like severe

1420
01:49:41,119 --> 01:49:44,920
lighting, which like made that like
end it, you know, ye yeah,

1421
01:49:45,119 --> 01:49:48,600
and she she was she had a
sexuality without being sexy, that type

1422
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,640
of thing. She's always were in
spirits and everything is cool. Listen.

1423
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:57,560
So it was very good and in
fact, and the and the stories were

1424
01:49:58,359 --> 01:50:00,239
you know, I mean, I
can imagine I can like getting creeped out

1425
01:50:00,359 --> 01:50:03,520
at a TV show. You usually
don't get creeped out of TV shows,

1426
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:06,880
but I remember being creeped out locking
the door and stuff, you know,

1427
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:12,399
and really really good. But then
they get and so here's my worst one,

1428
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:16,079
the X Files, because then they
they got bad. You know what,

1429
01:50:16,199 --> 01:50:19,880
I agree with you there too,
it's so bad, so bad.

1430
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:28,279
And then it's that's the greatest example
of a production company selling out the integrity

1431
01:50:28,279 --> 01:50:30,960
of its show for the money.
I can't think of a bigger example of

1432
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:34,159
that. I find. I still
find Dexter to be the worst. But

1433
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:38,520
X Files is the biggest. Was
the biggest show. Yeah, yeah,

1434
01:50:39,119 --> 01:50:43,399
the biggest to have that happen.
It is so sad what they did,

1435
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,479
and they ruined it. You don't
go ahead all you're and she get pregnant

1436
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,880
by a nailing or something at the
end of that. Who knows. They

1437
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:54,439
were really strong. It's like,
you know, they started with the cigarette

1438
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:58,199
guy and you know, halfway through
femurs involved, and it's like, what

1439
01:50:58,279 --> 01:51:00,279
the fuck? You know, you
can't follow it. You know, and

1440
01:51:00,319 --> 01:51:04,239
you can tell the last episode had
no idea what they were going to write.

1441
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:06,279
Oh, let's blame it on that
guy, you know, and then

1442
01:51:06,359 --> 01:51:11,800
that's that. The season ending,
it was just so disappointing. And and

1443
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:16,520
going back to Twin Peaks and with
the Xbox two, is I keep hotted?

1444
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:19,920
Is the music Like when I think
of Twin Peaks, Okay, that's

1445
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:25,880
that's a that's like three notes,
okay, But it's so iconic when you

1446
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:29,119
hear it, it's Twin Peaks.
When you hear the X Files theme,

1447
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,640
it's the x Files, you know. And then and this part of it,

1448
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:33,600
that's that's a big part of it, I think, you know.

1449
01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:39,920
And you're gonna do a show on
on scores and soundtracks, Yeah, yeah,

1450
01:51:40,039 --> 01:51:45,640
yes, yeah, switch with movies. I literally just bought these on

1451
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:51,600
vinyl the other day. Beverly Hills
Cop and what's the other one, Jerry

1452
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:57,000
Goldsmith Star Trek the Motion Picture?
Oh wow, yeah cool, very cool.

1453
01:51:57,239 --> 01:52:00,039
And then I have all the Twin
Peaks films and shows on on vinyl,

1454
01:52:00,199 --> 01:52:03,680
all the all the music, yeah, I mean, score is music.

1455
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:12,720
So it's just such an important character
shows and movies. Kid, if

1456
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:16,279
you ever want to shape sorry,
this is I don't know if I've ever

1457
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:21,079
mentioned this on the show, but
as a kid, so I'm a child

1458
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:26,920
of like the nineties, you know, and I love The X Files,

1459
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:31,680
but I hated the music. It
made me so upset. It was so

1460
01:52:32,039 --> 01:52:38,039
like, it was just so intense
and I could not handle it. And

1461
01:52:38,399 --> 01:52:43,800
LLL can back this up that when
I was a child being traumatized by the

1462
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:46,600
music of The X Files, I
would run up to my room and LLL

1463
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:55,680
and my mother would turn the volume
way up on the TV in bed and

1464
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,600
they were like, oh, oh
my god, it's so funny. And

1465
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:01,359
I'm like, oh my god,
here's there are people on Twin Peaks.

1466
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:09,000
I'm in the frontier who does a
lot of the music. I'm sorry,

1467
01:53:09,079 --> 01:53:16,439
Angelo, I confused. My composers. Was it talked about how they got

1468
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:20,600
that first, remember how you got
that kind of mellow twin beings and then

1469
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:26,680
it kind of changes to something so
dark and so and so. Uh.

1470
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:30,960
David Lynch is laying back and Angela
Bellamente is at the piano, and David

1471
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:33,600
is saying, okay, we see
this young girl, you know. Then

1472
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:38,159
he starts out with the music and
then she's kind of lost in the woods.

1473
01:53:38,319 --> 01:53:41,680
She recedes into the woods and she's
so sad, and he goes if

1474
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,600
he does this, and he says
okay, he said, oh, that's

1475
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:46,119
that's perfect. And he says,
okay, David, I'll go home and

1476
01:53:46,119 --> 01:53:50,439
work on it. He says,
no, that's perfect. Yeah, yeah,

1477
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:55,079
yeah, yeah, yep, yep. I mean that stuff like that

1478
01:53:55,119 --> 01:53:58,079
happens a lot. The first thing
that comes up usually is the best thing.

1479
01:53:58,159 --> 01:54:00,159
You know, if you bang it
every if you screw around with it,

1480
01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:05,279
you're gonna lose it. It's gonna
I mean, they're they're so good

1481
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:12,479
at just translating emotion. Yeah,
that's why they're good instantaneously, That's why

1482
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:16,000
they're doing That's why they do what
they do. I mean John Williams Double

1483
01:54:16,199 --> 01:54:24,319
seven music is so look look at
that, think about yeah, yeah,

1484
01:54:24,399 --> 01:54:27,520
yeah for sure. So anyway,
so look, uh, I think we're

1485
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:32,199
at the end of the show.
We everyone is uh giving this. We

1486
01:54:32,319 --> 01:54:35,319
did it all right, that's good, Okay, let's give us. Let's

1487
01:54:35,319 --> 01:54:42,680
give us all the round of applause. We will sweeping up in post.

1488
01:54:43,199 --> 01:54:47,880
So I want to thank everybody.
Let me start by thanking super Asian super

1489
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:51,199
literary agent Jim Frankel, and we're
going to clap for him for once again

1490
01:54:51,279 --> 01:55:00,399
because he has sent me letters.
Why don't you clap on me, Joys

1491
01:55:00,439 --> 01:55:02,399
for the glitch at the beginning I
have. That's okay, No one knows

1492
01:55:02,439 --> 01:55:05,680
about that. You know that was
It was a lot of fun to watch

1493
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:11,199
though. Speaking for myself, it's
a hilarious blue book. It's eating by

1494
01:55:11,239 --> 01:55:14,560
the way, over the year,
I was eating a bagel. Beg.

1495
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,800
Okay, yeah, that's good.
I need a bag right, cream cheese

1496
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:24,560
or what it's regular cream cheese and
light smear cream cheese and light smear butter.

1497
01:55:25,399 --> 01:55:29,880
Yeah, the cheese really smear.
Hey, it's a technical term.

1498
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,560
Is it toasted? I know it. I learned it in Birdcage. I

1499
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:45,439
love a good smear. Yeah,
almost almost naked gun. Let me thank

1500
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:50,279
everyone, Jim, thank you for
bringing up the whole bag. Doctor Raven.

1501
01:55:50,359 --> 01:55:53,760
Let me send you my ring size
so we can get this going.

1502
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:00,000
He's a joke in there somewhere.
We don't have to thank you, doctor

1503
01:56:00,039 --> 01:56:03,279
Bob. We appreciate it, Doctor
Bob, Thank you, Thank you a

1504
01:56:03,399 --> 01:56:09,000
great show. Let's see, we're
gonna thank Trevor Chamberlain. Now, thank

1505
01:56:09,039 --> 01:56:11,680
you Trevor for joining us. Do
you know what you're going to change your

1506
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:15,600
name to? Is it just going
to be like, no, a middle

1507
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,039
name? I do. It's terrible. I don't even want to say that's

1508
01:56:18,079 --> 01:56:21,000
come on, why not? It's
that kind of show. What's your middle

1509
01:56:21,079 --> 01:56:27,840
name? I can understand it's it's
it's Edson E D S O N.

1510
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:35,159
Not even Edison. It's it's better
than edseel right, definitely if you if

1511
01:56:35,199 --> 01:56:39,239
you were over eighty, you'd get
that joke. Thank you Trevor for joining

1512
01:56:39,279 --> 01:56:43,159
us. We really appreciate it.
I want to thank you for having me

1513
01:56:43,319 --> 01:56:47,239
on here to discuss my middle name
and to give a five minute monologue on

1514
01:56:47,359 --> 01:56:54,000
flashlights. Yeah, thank you so
much. Well done, well done for

1515
01:56:54,039 --> 01:56:59,000
you show. Yeah, thank you. It sounds like you would. I

1516
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,760
always wondered what they were. Well
now you know, and he sounds like

1517
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,840
he knows what he's talking about,
which is good for radio. Thank you

1518
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:12,359
very much. This is a lot
of fun, Raven. It's time fresh

1519
01:57:12,359 --> 01:57:15,960
to say goodbye to your Raven.
The Satus put so much for having me.

1520
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,520
I had so much fun. These
are really really great. Really yeah,

1521
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:21,600
okay, instead of getting drunk with
five white guys tonight, you were

1522
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:27,439
with six make a difference to it
was a really nice change of pace.

1523
01:57:27,479 --> 01:57:30,680
Okay, where did you come up? When do you come and visit the

1524
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:33,439
next day? He put the booze. He again, I know, I

1525
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:39,760
know the show another show. Thank
you, thank you, Switch, Thank

1526
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:45,479
you Switch, pure as always,
one question for Switch, go ahead,

1527
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:49,960
yes, Switch. What's that image
behind your head? That is a blurry

1528
01:57:50,319 --> 01:57:55,279
moth man in my studio? Here? Truth is, it's not an expensive

1529
01:57:55,279 --> 01:58:00,119
studio. That is a shower curtain. Okay, I couldn't more. You

1530
01:58:00,159 --> 01:58:04,239
want to know, Jim, Okay, thank you, thank you, Switch

1531
01:58:04,239 --> 01:58:09,039
for joining us. I thank you
all. It was the car running.

1532
01:58:10,079 --> 01:58:12,800
It's going to it's going to get
there in twenty minutes as soon as the

1533
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,279
MBB we will. Oh that's right, we're good. You're running late,

1534
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:19,760
right one one. Thank you very
much for joining us. We appreciate it

1535
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:26,560
as always. Here the plugs real
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1536
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1537
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1539
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1540
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lot of stairs, things like that. When they finish, they rip up

1541
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1542
01:58:49,399 --> 01:58:54,199
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1544
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1545
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1546
01:59:04,479 --> 01:59:10,760
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1547
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:15,319
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1548
01:59:15,399 --> 01:59:19,079
Okay, And we end every show
now by saying John McCain was not

1549
01:59:19,319 --> 01:59:23,800
a loser, Okay, he's a
war hero. You don't make fun of

1550
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:27,520
people like that. You don't make
fun of people like that, you look

1551
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:30,319
up to them, Okay. And
so this is mag for the rest of

1552
01:59:30,359 --> 01:59:34,760
the gang. It's a large gang
tonight, saying until you hear us next

1553
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:39,680
time, be safe, be happy, and bye bye.