You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio
in the UK and around the world. There are more than one hundred motion
pictures made in Hollywood every year. Ninety percent of them are bonds, but
ten percent are not. In film school. These movies are called blockbusters,
but there's a better term for how they're made. X Files. Join Mac
in the gang as they explore the dark secrets behind lights, camera action,
and the unexplainable success of no talent punks like Quentin Tarantino, All coming from
the weirdest place on Earth, Hollywood. This is Mac Maloney's Hollywood X Files,
and now here's Mac. Well. Good evening everyone, I'm welcome to
Macaloney's Hollywood X Files here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Mac
maloney one. What the show we have for you tonight, Bob as always,
girls, please sit down, get get your big box of Kleenex,
your big box of wipes. You squeegeee in yallou because the very famous one
one is here. Wannie, Hello Mac, Hello, ladies and gentlemen,
all ships at sea, Hello girls, especially you guys. Welcome to the
Hollywood X File Show. Tonight. It's going to be a good one,
hope. So, and I'm glad you're all here, and I'm glad to
be here mac as you know, I love for this. Yes, So,
fourteenth week in a row here, glad to be anywhere? Actually,
fourteenth week in a row. Did you have fish and chips in the past
seven days? No chips, but no fish? Holy Cow's like being in
China and not eating Chinese food. What's the matter. They're going to lock
me up pretty soon. I'm not consuming that really, Yeah, they would
do that, Yeah, for sure. You know it's a nanny steak.
We could take a photo of you and photoshop you eating fish. There you
go. Just make sure that you have five fingers, not six. Listen,
if you could, if I could ask you one real quickly, reallyquickly,
tell me the story you told me the other day on the phone about
how the UK is training into a nappy state. Can to tell that story
in thirty seconds? Yeah? Well, the government is you know, the
government does everything and is involved in everything over here in the UK. Apparently
there's a problem in the junior level schools, you know, the grade schools
we call here in America. Okay, where kids are not properly party trained,
then you're playing simple not bathroom trained. Okay, yes, not everyone,
but a lot enough of them where it's a crisis. Yeah yeah,
yeah, that's not a good crisis to have. No, it's it's it's
the nappy crisis. And they rely on the teachers. Nappies here rely on
the teachers to partty train these kids. When does this bullshit end? I
mean when they don't have enough time to do regular instructions with all the other
stuff that they have to do. Well, being married to teacher, I
can understand anyway, thank you. You're hipped to all that. I am
his responsibility, and it's it's getting pretty bad. You know, the teachers
haven't bought into it yet. It hasn't really been implemented. Yeah, but
and then and then the parents are saying, well, hey, it should
be up to the parents. Well, no kidding, get with it.
Draw the line. It's like if you if you buy a dog, the
dog has to be house trained. If a kid goes to school, he's
got to be plonty trained or he you know, you don't let him in.
I'm sorry anyway, let's just switch in goo to switch How about that
national correspondent. Switch late Steve Water is with us down. They're in West
Virginia somewhere, switchy. It's a pleasure to be here tonight. Man,
Okay, let's look at the hair. I get no comment tonight. Yeah,
Raven has given the kind of cut sign. Yeah it's I don't know.
It looks fake, but it looked fake last week, So okay,
switch everything okay with you? Everything is beyond wonderful. No club tonight,
but with us, Oh in the studio with us is ufo mechanic Alan Now
I don't know, oh imacla everyone. Okay, everything okay with you?
Yeah, usual flooding and craziness or the Northeast. Yeah, the Northeast.
If anyone doubts global warming, come up to the north shore of Boston.
A little dip in the road at the thirsty moves tonight. But that's okay.
That means we'll be good. Yeah, yeah, a little surprise,
A little dip in the road. Well we'll talk about it. I no
surprise behind the bar. We'ment expecting anyway. Also with us is our favorite
good witch there is our favorite is our favorite good witch up there in sideways
And yeah, raving is raving? How are you? Hi'm my friends,
Thanks for having me. You look very film noir again tonight, But you
look like you're in black and white? Is that the idea? Yeah?
You know, I decided to go with the theme. So I dressed as
a Victorian child that wasn't going to make it through the winter. That's a
favorite TV show tonight, okay, anywhere? All right? I will include
that also because we have to have a doctor on every show joining us from
Chicago is doctor Bob Gross, doctor Bob? Hello? Everyone? I dressed
like a doctor that's not going to make it through the winter. Wow?
What on this took a turn? Yeah? It's seventy one degrees here in
Chicago? Is it really? That means it'll be like that means it'll be
like sixty five here in the day and a half. That's good. I
love that, you know. Oh man, we've escaped. Any We did
not have any snow this year. Think about that. We had like,
wow, four inches. Yeah, we had very little snow this year either,
not real cold right, yeah, global warming. But the bad side
is is that there are communities around us. Hampton Beach, New Hampshire is
a fairly well known place and it's flooded. That did fifty million dollars worth
of damage in January and flooded again on Sunday. And not to get too
inside, but the Coma has flooded the beach Coma and Implomi and flooded out
for a month. They sold it and then it had to flood it again
on Sunday because there was a h it's a mess. It's a mess anyway.
So we're going to introduce one one. Have you introduce your buddy Trevor
hre sure H. And Trevor's been my friend for oh, I don't know,
over forty years. Forty years yep, time flies, I know.
So I know Trevor from way back, and we enjoyed talking movies all the
time. I'm not going to tell you right now who is whose favorite director
is, but in any event, Trevor is a digital media producer yes wow
st Out of Massachusetts who specializes in cinematography, live event videography, editing,
and podcast production. He's also notorious for having not so humble opinions on movies
and television shows. I'm really serious about them, not so humble really yeah,
okay, all right, yeah, he is in your face. Okay,
thanks for joining us. Let's clap them in. Let's clap them in
because we may never see him again. Thank you, Jeff, thank you,
thank you all for having me. I will railroad all of your opinions
really on the show. Okay, we'll see him about that. So listen.
We've introduced everybody now, so now it's time for Top ten. We're
doing to Top ten tonight, and it'll be obvious why Raven can't read them.
But we have a special guest calling in to read the top ten tonight.
This is we're going to have to clap him onto and it's going to
have to be sustained applause. This is Al Ferrari, the main character in
Max's new book, How to Dumble Body At See You and Not Get Caught
Alfar. Now he's in the Witness Protection Program. If you read the book
you will know why. But he's a region close the location. There you
go, and he's uh appears to be wearing a mask or something, but
he's incognito. Al how are you tonight? How are you tonight? I'm
good, I'm good. Okay, your name is Al Ferrari. Do you
drive a Ferrari by any chance, I wish. Yeah, okay, I
had one, but I had to sell it to that guy man who made
that movie. Yeah. Listen, So how do you feelaker you are the
character of a of a book, best selling book, hopefully, how do
you feel has your life changed? My life never changes. It's always perfect.
Oh really yeah, just like switchy. Well, listen when we get
to this and you know, get it over with quickly. So no,
this is top ten Top ten, Yes, Top ten reasons why Raven should
rule the world. Top ten reasons why Raven should rule the world by Al
Ferrari, main character man how a double body seeing? Please? Oh?
Number ten? Number ten. While she would deport all cat haters, she
would deport them to some nice Caribbean island. Nine. Pretend we've heard the
I hang on, pretend we've heard the before, but we are laughing inside.
Go ahead, Number nine please. Number nine. She would investigate Mac,
the infamous Mac Maloney, to see if he actually went to film school.
All right, Oh, okay, that report, I thank you,
switchy wow a two, switch a two. I'm waiting for that knock of
the door. Actually, Number eight please. Her dog Scotch would become head
of the Alcoholics Beverage Commission. Right, She's ruling the world now, so
she can do anything. What about your dog ry dogs? Ruby? But
I see what you did there, mister Ferrari. I'm glad you can see
it. Number seven she would lift the ban on Birkenstocks on Plumb Island,
Massachusetts. Yes, yes, we'd have to fight that. I love I'm
wearing birking Stocks right now, don't wow. Number six she would make buns.
Now, this is very controversial because we're not sure what kind of buns
she means here, but she would make buns mandatory for women everywhere. Personally,
I think they all had buns already. I think she's talking about buns
up top, not at the bottom. Okay, well, I'm not talking
about bacon because I cannot do that, but buns up top. Okay,
all right. Number five she would order a massive research program to bring Princess
Died back to life. Oh my gosh, yes, I would, and
we would go. We would also go to Limelight. I would make Limelight
in New York City a thing again, and we would go and party.
For sure. Our reason for bringing back Princess Die is that? So one
one can finally find happiness again, exactly, and we could all go to
Limelight together. Yes, Princess, so perfect, Go ahead, proclaim Uncle
Al's bees as the best bees in the history of the freaking universe. Right
now, he didn't some of Uncle Al today. I don't want to do
this perfect it's length, Okay, yes, it is very good, honey.
Next, please, this is She would send in the Special Forces to
get switched safely out of West Virginia. Drop you a couple of bridges from
there. Don't worry, you're right, Go ahead. Two. She would
include deer from the government's daily recommended nutrition shot for children. Yell a little,
a little controversial, and the number one reason Raven should rule the world.
She would declare April thirty first as lonely Larry Day just shot him the
up. Let's clap for l because wonderful Alferrari don't want very much. Why
don't we do this in the mail? Yeah, there you go, Yeah,
sure is. The ig is in the mail. But look, why
don't we do this? Why don't we take a commercial breakdown and regroup and
we'll be right back after this. You're listening to Macaloney's militarck sound shot here
in the distant done that radio never please stay tuned. Hey Mac maloney fans,
this is Pistol Pete and I'm sitting here with the one and only Mac
Maloney. Hi Mac, hi peig. Now, Mac, you've got a
new book out called how to Dump a Body at Sea and Not Get Caught
that you wrote with our pal, famous crime novelist Mark Zappula. How did
this whole thing come about? Well, Mac and I have this mutual friend
that we would go out having beers with every once in a while, and
he had the same twenty stories that he would tell us kind of over and
over again, and at some point I said, you know, we should
write these down, and we did and it turned into a book. It's
such a crazy title. How'd you come up with it? Well, kind
of the same thing we're in about talking to this friend of oz one night
and he just said, you know, how to get rid of a Body
at Sea? And I get taught, And of course we didn't know,
and so he told us and the secret is in the book. But I
can say that it involves a lot of chainling fence and some crabs. Now,
Mac, you gave me an advance copy of the book, and like
I said before, it's one of the funniest things I've ever read. It
reminded me of The Sopranos if the Sopranos had a laugh track. Thanks Peter.
But it also gives you instructions on how to do some pretty shady stuff,
stuff not exactly legal. Well. Yeah, the book is about the
true life adventures of a druvenile Delinklent growing up in Boston in the late nineteen
eighties, so you get a lot of the inside stuff like the best way
to steal a CA, best way to burn ACA, how to make fake
IDs, things like that. But in one chapter you actually tell people how
to turn an old, broken down Toyota into a brand new Rolls Royce in
five easy steps. And it actually works. Yeah. I know it sounds
crazy. I didn't believe it until I saw the proof, but yes,
it actually works. Now, one last question. There's a lot of laughs
in the book, but also a lot of pretty crazy stuff, legal and
illegal. Is it really all true. It's really all true, but on
the advice of a publisher, they've asked us not the same thing beyond that
for legal reason. But yes, it is altru Well, thanks Mac.
That's how to dump a body at sea and not get caught. The al
Ferrari story by Mac and crime writer Mark Zippula. Get it today on Amazon.
Welcome back in What's macloney Hollywood X Files? Here on the Just a
Thunder Radio network. This is Mac Maloney, Wow with the show we have
for you tonight talking about Hollywood TV stuff like that. Let me quickly introduce
the members of the Platic Girls. You know he's here across the puddle,
every fame, just one one, Ella mackl everybody. Yes, I'm here,
and thanks for having me on the show again. We appreciate us.
Okay, just in one word, yes, and no is Princess Kate all
right? Do you fear for her or she gonna be okay? Well,
right now, the scuttle butt is nobody knows for sure. After that fiasco
with the with the picture alleged doctored photograph and but we want this proof of
life. Yeah, and then the princess being videoed holding up a clock with
a date and time on it actually ticking a newspaper. She's saying something like
help me hello commoners. Yes, I like her. I like her.
She looks like Penthouse in nineteen ninety two one song. Right. She's a
good looking woman, no doubt about it. So here's the other side story
that was that Harry and Harry and Megan are like ragging on this wall situation
and they're saying this was Megan would never screwed up, like really yeah,
yeah, she knows her stuff. Yeah, those two not to get into
this, but those two miscalculated, those two. They did. They thought
they were going to be like American celebrities. They thought they were going to
be like American entertainment celebrities with shows and stuff like that. And whether the
Palace did it to them a what? But they just you know, when
you drive up the spic of the money, it's hot to be a celeb,
you know, Wanta Bee, you know what I mean? Right,
I don't think you're shirting for money, but it's a little bit different than
Yeah, they're not scraping for money, but they don't have enough money to
be kind of you know, noticed and revelent, relevant and stuff like that.
So anyway, there goes the last of our British listeners. So why
not Also with us is our national correspondent Switch place, Steve Wood, Switchy,
great to be here. Let's kind of diabolical to get that cat out
of Get the cat out of the Frank Mac gets marsupial, trust me,
is it really Yeah, he's like doctor Evil. No, no, it
looks like Arn Stravo Blowfelt. He never gets right exactly and Bond I've been
expecting you. Switch Everything okay with you? Everything is wonderful. Yeah,
okay, except you have a cat in your eye. Get that. It's
just a it's just a piece of tail. Don't worry about the uh anyway.
Yeah, wow, let me take the knife out of my back.
Switchy, can you help serious? Also in the studio with us tonight your
pullman camp gall now wow, hey Machelo. Everyone, everything okay with you?
And the bees? Yeah, wife's just moving along, waiting for spring,
waiting for the warm weather. Now. I saw a honey bee flying
around the other day. Could that be yours? A scout? A scout?
Yeah, one of the hives is out and about buzzy. Yeah,
that's good, okay good. Also with us is our favorite good witch up
there, and so I was graving is with us him? My friends,
Thank you so much for having me Okay, the show will be over by
the time I got the introductions done, but yours is the most important.
You look very film noir tonight. They really got to go on as far
as the mood of the show, even though we're doing TV right, sure,
yeah, okay, all right, you get the beanie. You get
the beanie on the that's the hat, right, you have a bun?
No, my hair is down. Okay, wan wan, her hair is
done. You asked me to ask her, but she's got a pom pom
on the hat. The hat. Nope, no beanie. Wow. Okay,
if you got the film more than going on, you have to be
in black and white. That's how I see her in black and white.
Uh, everyone else out there, paint your own picture. Thank you Raven
for joining us. Also, we need a doctor, and there's one here,
Doctor Bob Grows. How you doing hellover one? It's great to be
here in all me Chicago, to see all of you again. I can't
believe it's that warm. Have anyone I wish with that Lake Michigan bellowing cold
air. Usually I'm only six miles from the airport, so there's propellers push.
That's good, Okay, that's nice clean air too. That's excellent.
Thank you for joining us, Doctor Bob, how everything to be here with
all of the film night tonight? Yeah yeah, film TV everything. Yeah.
Okay, you watch a lot of TV. I can tell I actually
don't have a TV anymore. Oh but I'll tell you that's one of those
great guests for the show. At the TV show, somebody throw it out
the window, right, you can tell us what you Okay, that's good.
That's cool though. Man, all right, let me introduce it with
us. Also with us is our good friend, new good friend, Trevor,
who is a media guy, filmmaker. He's in Boston. Trevor,
how you doing. I'm doing very well. Thank you, thanks for having
me on the show. Okay, you get rid of the cat? That's
good? Or is that what you're petting? No? No, the cat.
The cat's on the lap now she came back, Okay, all right.
Trevor went to film school too. Yeah. Where'd you go to film
school there? Uh? I couldn't afford a good film school, so I
went to Keen State College, which actually had a very good film program,
but wasn't a very good school. Yeah. Yeah, I was lucky enough
I got to intern with Ken Burns for a bit while he's just making the
Jazz documentary. Oh really, Yeah, he's an asshole, right, just
tell us the truth. He's a fun He's an asshole, isn't he not?
Not in my experience of him, But he was very strange. Okay,
it sounds like and I was. I was more excited to work with
his editor, Paul Barnes, because Paul had directed this, I mean,
had edited this incredible documentary for Errol Morris called The Fin Blue Line, which
is one of the very very few films that literally saved a man's life.
Yeah that's yeah, that's an excellent movie. Wait, the Fin Blue Line?
You edited? That? Is that what you said? No? No,
no, But I got to work with Paul Barnes, who edited,
Okay, yeah, cool, and he edited. He was the head editor
for Jazz. So yes, I was working for Ken Burns, but I
was really more excited to work with Paul Barnes. His work in that film
got a man, an innocent man, off of death row, literally one
of the very very few examples of a film in history saving a person's life.
Yeah that's cool, and the film is a masterpiece on top of it.
So it's nice. Yeah, it was a great experience. How long,
oh is that twenty five years ago? Yeah, twenty five years.
He looks like he's streaking eighteen. How old is this? I know I'm
almost fifty really yeah, yeah, okay, anyway, wow. Also with
us is super literary agent Jim Frankel, which we also have to clap fall
because he's known to pop. Jim, how are you doing. I'm good,
I'm good, and I'm glad to be here. I love talking about
movies. I'm in the middle of negotiations for two, not one, but
two different film deals. Really, so yeah, yeah, graduations. You
know, I have somebody I work with on the left coast. But yes,
you know, it's it's a strange time, you know. At the
same time, hell's a poppin with films because of the five months when nobody
was technically doing any work on anything. Yeah, the strike, because the
strike. But at the same time, you know, writers were writing,
whether they admitted it or not. Actors weren't acting, but the writers were
writing. And so there's a lot of property being bandied about right now.
And I got my fingers into a couple of them that look like we're going
to make deals. Okay, that's good to hear. I want to ask
you anymore. I'll go to sleep tonight. You won't ask me anymore anyway.
I have another film connection, which is that in my career as a
book editor, which I did for almost fifty years since I was a small
child, I published, I edited or published a number of tie ins with
movies and TV shows. I mean dozens and dozens of them, from the
ridiculous to the sublime, you know, ranging from things like mean Streets to
uh oh. On the other end, say Badge three seven three, which
is real, the other end of things. If you if you know that
title, it's a bad movie, bad bad, bad movie. You do
what you gotta do? Right? Is that a drag net movie? What
was his Badge? What was Bade three seven three was Eddie Egan's sequel to
The French Connection. Eddie Egan was the guy who who the French Connection was
about pretty much. But but the script for Badge three seven three was so
bad that when the person who wrote the novel based on the movie uh submitted
the manuscript, the title on top of the of the manuscript didn't say Badge
three seven three. It said I hate to say it, but this is
what it said. It said mix versus spicks, and then there was the
real title page. But I'm half a fat the kind of movie it was,
it was, it was, it was bad. Okay, right,
that's okay. This code in Hollywood for a lot of things, like for
if there is a lot of hot rods in it and girls, and you
know the guys who has a hot rods? You don't get the girls and
stuff? They call them tits and tires movies, right, really know that?
Yes, it's uh, I don't say anyway. Now, well I
said it for you, so listen. So tonight what we're talking about is
like what we can start talking about anyway. Hold it, she's holding up.
What's it say? They says tits and tires? How does she write
that? And tit? Because it's my cross stitch? You guys forgot.
I was working on this. I'm working very hard on it. Yeah,
it's it's your what that's a stitch in crochet? It's a cross stitchka.
So I'm just like messing around with it because I just started doing it.
Can you spell it? Can you spell it for us? Slowly? T
as in tango, I as in India tea as in tango. Well,
you're right out, Okay, all right? Why all right? I never
thought Croshe would be exciting, but apparently it is. H Anyway, we
are alphabet with the names of the royal family. Oh God, Elizabeth?
No? Thanks? Oh? Really? Is that's how they do? Mean?
I think they probably kicked Yeah? Yeah, yeah, anyway, I
did whatever. Anyway, wo why are we dumping on the Royal family tonight?
Okay? They have their problems. You started it, We should have.
I did start anyway. Listen, So tonight we're talking about TV shows,
our best, our favorite TV show, and our worst TV show.
And I don't like there's a lot of candidates. So I'm going to throw
the switch for us because he's a real TV guy. So switch one just
thought us. Now, think about for a second, what's your favorite show
of all time? Can you narrow it down to one? Well? A
Fugitive starring David Jansen as doctor Richard Kumball, which the original version. There
was a reboot in the nineties which wasn't bad, but this was this kind
of set the tone for television shows up to that point. You really didn't
have a continuing premise. Everything was usually resolved in one or maybe a two
part episode, but this was unresolved. I mean, this guy's falsely convicted
for the murder of his wife and he's got the relentless Lieutenant Gerard, played
magnificently by Barry Morse. And I remember Stephen King saying that Barrymore scared the
hell out of the whey was a kid. I mean, you scared,
Stephen King. That's pretty cool. Yeah, that's scared everybody. Roy Huggins
created it. And the genesis of the of the TV show. Now,
I can go on forever about this, so you're gonna have to come off
at some point, but not yet. The genesis of the TV show is
he wanted a sort of something like a contemporary Western. He wanted somebody moving
from town to town, but he didn't want it to be a drifter.
He wanted him to have a compelling reason. And so he came up with
the idea of that he's falsely convicted, he escapes and every week he has
to elude the police. And it was very like Quinn Martin the producers that
it's stylized like a Western because poor Richard kimball Man. He'd walk into town,
there was another murder, there was something, some horrible calamity, and
sometimes he'd be accused again. But other times he would have to put his
safety on the line to help somebody. He always had this moral dilemma.
Yeah. Cool, Yeah, that's a great show. It really is.
It's an iconic showing. Way. Who's the guy his name escapes me?
Who's the lead character? David Jensen? Oh, David David Jensen. Yeah,
And he played it. It's kind of funny. He like underplayed it,
if I can remember. He underplayed it very very well because it made
him very dark and mysterious and on the run. But it was good.
And Quinn Martin was smart because he would put the show, our show into
four different segments, and he would say, segment one, segment two,
so I want to say a book in a way, you know, But
then then he continued the storyline. It was great. Is it not really
like? Uh lame miss rob though, isn't it? Leib When when the
screenwriter, uh, I think his name was Leonard Stansmore. Uh, he
was uh given the you know, the basic premise, and he's the one
that wrote the Pilot and he saw the uh the uh connection between you know,
uh Javert Javert. That's where he got the name Gerard when the police
lieutenant obsessed with his capture and he saw the you know, kind of parallel
there with Leai miss rob this uh this really great man and this in his
case he had reformed and he was helping people and eluding the the the evil
in this case Lieutenant Javert and uh you know, and also uh uh Peter
Ruggalow did the music for the show, and he was known as kind of
a jazz musician. But people remember, I remember that music as it's d
I used to record it with my little little real the reel tape recorder.
And he actually, I'm not even sure that he when he scored the Pilot.
I don't know if he had. He made about two a little to
over two hours of music, you know, uh chase music, the themes
and various uh presented in different ways. But he said, you know,
he didn't actually see the TV show, but he was friends with David Jansen,
and he was known to say that when uh, when you heard the
music that he that that he composed, you saw David Jansen like and Jansen
was the perfect perfect choice to play doctor Richard. A few times where the
person and on this on the page uh matched the uh, the the actor
matched the character, and just a couple other quick things. They also used
a lot of music from what they call the CBS Library of Music, and
it like Jerry Goldsmith, uh Bergard Herman and others that actually originally composed some
of the music for the Twilight Zone. And so that that was it just
it just fit it like a glove and even dominic frontiery in the last episode
last last season, season four when they went to color and so. And
the last thing I'll say about it is the film they made with with Harrison
Ford. I think a lot of people have ripped on it, but I
think was the best translation from a TV show to a movie ever done.
Yeah huh really yeah, I remember it is okay, but I know that
there's holes in the in the plot. But I was going to say the
typical fugitive script back then is he's he's going from town to town. He's
walking, he sees the chi accident. He has to save, you know,
the person inside the car because he's a doctor. That's the thing he
keeps getting in these things, these moral dilemmas because he's the doctor. He
saves the person in the cop but the cops coming. The cops say,
well, you have to come with us. Okay, So because he's done
a nice act, he's going to be in trouble, you know. And
that's usually what it was, you know, And it was a Marral dilemma.
The thing is mac they ended, they could they ended the TV series.
They didn't leave it open ended. It was a big debate. Actually
they thought maybe it would hurt it in reruns if they had a conclusion.
But they did have that two part episode that had the highest rating, and
they held it for about thirteen years. The who Shot j R? Episode?
Really, so what happened? He turns out he kills her? No
no, yeah, because he lost he's actually the one of the man.
No man, he's exonerating and they get the worst of the man could the
perpetrator? Okay, so, switchy, that's your favorite show? What's your
worst show? When we already through a list of okay, okay, it
shows we can't you know, hundreds of happened over the decades, and a
lot of them are these things back in the old days. No matter how
bad a show was, it would last like eleven or thirteen weeks. Yes,
a half season. Yeah, okay, I thought, I'm not going
to deal with those. My worst show is more contemporary modern family, like
One Family. You know that's actually show hate modern family passion. I've never
been able to watch a full episode. It's so full of itself and pretentious
camera you watch it though I felt that way. I couldn't watch it.
I never watched it when it was on, but we've watched it in reruns.
It's actually pretty funny. The way they put it together is actually I
got to I kind of agree to disagree with you. Damn Switchy. It
needs to be buried in a shadow grip. I don't care for the later
seasons. I think it really peaked at like season four, and then it
was like all down. Hell yeah. If we see anything over season four,
we don't watch it. It's like a lots of TV shows, the
first two years are the best, and then when they get popular, it
starts to drain. I mean, there's something you are This is the difference.
The first three years was black and white, and it had a lot
of that quality. Shadows, the wet streets and so forth, and Kimball
walking off into the night. It at so good in the fourth season.
Yeah, that's funny that they turned into color and then loses a little bit
of All the TV shows were going to color at that time. That was
a big deal. Yeah, yeah, okay, so many. That's why
I used to watch Police Squad because it was in color and like that was
unheard of at the time. Wasn't that a comedy? Yeah, And it
had like eight episodes and then it got canceled. It's a damn shame.
It was so ahead of its time. I'm gonna go to your Police Squad.
When Frank walks in and he talks to another coworker, uh who is
so tall that uh with where the camera's framed everything from the man's shoulders up
is framed out. And Frank says to him, every time I see this
joke, I die laugh. And he says, oh, you got something
here, and the guy picks up his hand and then half a banana just
falls down, and it is every time. It's the dumbest joke, and
it it just sends me railing every time. It's yeah, oh, it's
so good, and it's it's stuff like that. That like, I'll think
about it at the most inappropriate time, and I'll and I've seen it two
hundred times and I will still laugh every single time you have to turn the
TV off when you're having six Right, Then, where did that come from?
Well, she said the most inappropriate. I don't own a TV.
I'm one of those people. We don't believe that. Wow, that's interesting.
That's that's yeah. So is that the in the opening credits? I
mean the mixing it up with maybe one of the you know, the the
movies that now Leslie Nielsen was in, but the naked gun. Yeah?
Yes, is that the one where you know, you're looking at it from
the point of view you're on top of the cop car and the like the
like the lightest spinning but they're going through super markets, they're hitting people and
stuff. That Yeah, very funny. I think the one where the car
is going through a woman's uterus and then where was I mean, it's just
so good. I cannot believe that's one sentence I didn't expect to hear any
But I think the funny cut off bingo card twitching. The funniest thing on
that show was when Frank Greben was with Priscilla Presley. Oh yes, and
she climbs up the ladder get something out of the attic and she pulls something
down and yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time I see or hear that,
I it's just too funny. I'm gonna be a I'm gonna be a
sexist pick here. But you know, missus Elvis had something going there for
a while. You know, she was in a lot of movies. She
was pretty, she could act. Yes, I don't know, I don't
know. But when she pulled that stuffed animal out of the ceiling, go
ahead, it was all over. Okay, all right, we'll take you
with her. Cool all right. So anyway, so Raven, so what's
your favorite show? What's your worst show? We'll just favorite show. It's
really funny. I'm kind of got a piggyback off of Switch. My favorite
show has to be Twin Peaks. Yeah, okay, And I say that
obviously because of the Philip Girard connection. And I actually just started doing a
rewatch of Twin Peaks a few weeks ago on Twin Peaks Day. I mean,
it's just I love David Lynch. He's just so bizarre, and I
mean the story is like this, you know, mystery soap opera type of
a thing. But then like there's kind of like these elements that like catch
you by surprise that are just funny. Like literally, in the pilot,
you know Laura Palmer's dead and the school doesn't know about it yet, and
in the background of one of the shots, all you see is this guy
dancing and he just kind of boogies off screen and it's like this thing where
you blink and you miss it. It's just great. And then there's so
many little hidden things where you know Bob the I mean, you can call
him the antagonist because he's part of that. It wasn't even cast initially.
He was got He got put in by accident because in the pilot, at
the very very last I'm pretty sure it's a pilot, it's the very last
shot, Sarah Palmer is screaming and all you see is the reflection in the
mirror. Like again, you blink and you miss it. You see the
reflection of Bob in the mirror. And that was Frank Silva. He was
a set director, I think set designer really. He was there completely on
accident and he got cast. And it's like I mean, the show just
has layers, and this is another one where it has. It had two
seasons off the bat in the early nineties, ninety to ninety one, it
had Firewalk with Me in the movie, and then it had the Return in
twenty eighteen. And I mean, after you watch the Return, it's just
like I need more, like forever for the rest of my life. I
just love that show. I mean, I don't know, I can't say
enough about it. I think everyone needs to freaking watch it because it's just
so freaking good. You and I need to have a discussion about gwinn Peaks
sometime. All kinds of other hidden things in the original that David Lynch used,
like the film Laura. Are you familiar with that at all? Uh?
Yes, okay, very quickly, Mac. Just just in the film
Laura, there was a character played by Clifton Webb called Waldo Lie Decker mina
bird was named Waldo, Yes, sure was after Li Decker. There's a
million little things like that in there. And actually in the film Laura,
the question is is she alive or dead? And the same thing anyway,
uh, And and well we have to talk about the return sometime too.
But yeah, for sure. Yeah, well we'll talk more about that off
air, for sure. But yeah, I just it's every time I watch
it, I just like feel like and there's so many scenes where you just
feel like not good, but you also can't turn away, like and again,
I'll bring it back to the pilot when Sarah Palmer is walking around the
house calling for Laura and there's that really uncomfortable shot of the stairwell and the
ceiling fan going, I mean, you're you're your anxiety just spikes, but
at the same time, you're like, I just need to soak it up.
Oh god, I love that show. The Music School at Minty.
Yes, Angelo Battle Lamente I cried, yeah, oh my god. Yeah.
And Julie Cruz, I mean she just said a few years ago and
ye, so yeah, my favorite by far Twin Peaks. I can talk
about that until I die of Oxygen loss. Least favorite movie, least favorite
TV shows, it's a really really close tie. But I'm gonna have to
say Full House terrible show. It's just I'm sorry, it's a piece of
shit. I like, my kid loved that show and we would get home
from school and it was like in the nineties, so we were little.
She loved it. She was older than me and she used to dominate the
TV so she would always watch Full House and I had to watch. You
know, you get it, dude, Like it's so annoying. And plus,
the layout of that house is chaotic and makes no sense if you think
about it, because it has a peaked addict where the one guy lives at
some point with his wife, the one that committed all the fraud. She's
in there. They're living in this thing that has a peaked roof, but
the exterior shot of the house has a flat rooftop. Huh. I was
seven realizing that, and I'm like, no, I'm sorry, you were
watching in my book? Yeah, okay, let me ask you this though.
Okay, this is you know, I never watched it because it's kind
of, you know, before my time or ahead of my time or whatever.
But what have with the Ulcean Twins? Man? I come on,
they turned out the freaks billionaires. They're literally, I know that, billionaires,
but you know they would have they have. They have a whole Instagram
page dedicated to them. That's Mary, Kate and Ashley smoking. And it's
the best thing I've ever seen in my life. And it's just pictures of
them smoking on the streets smoking cigarette. They're doing they are killing it really
yeah yeah, yeah, but I mean, didn't you don't you think that's
an odd way for them to turn out. Didn't you think that they would
become kind of like, you know, actress and maybe have a sitcom you
know, who knows. I just don't know. They weren't good, but
then they get the younger sister, as has been the one that's become the
Elizabeth superb. She's very, very good. She's the one that stayed in
the business. But the two sisters literally became billionaires from all of their direct
to VHS videos from the nineties. And when they appear, they just they
do such odd things. Mary Kate gave a performance in this very little independent
film called The Wackness that came out in two thousand and six, two thousand
and seven, where she plays a straight up acid head hippie and she walks
away from the film, I mean walks away with the film. The performance
is excellent and I just didn't expect, you know, little full house girl
to play this acid head that and the performance is phenomenal. They just don't
care anymore. They don't have to. They don't care at all, and
I love it. They have what the kids call you money, But look
didn't they didn't they kill question for Raven? Okay, what was your other?
What was the other one that was almost tied with Full House? The
other I mentioned actually on the first episode that we did of the Hollywood X
Files as friends. Don't get it. I don't get it. I don't
understand the appeal to it. I don't think it's funny. It's like that's
up there with like a Big Bang theory as well that that's another one.
I don't get why it's funny. I just think it's boring and I think
people need to be told when to laugh and I hate that. Just like
those guys, I just wasn't as smart. Do you not like multie Raven?
Do you not like multicams with laughing? You do? I do?
That's the thing, because I do like Seinfeld. I really enjoyed How I
Met Your Mother. I thought that was a good show. There's just there's
ones that become so like people just foam at the mouth for them, and
then I watch them and I'm like, I just don't think they're funny.
Let's yesh. But that happens to a lot of you know, when the
when the when you're the top comedy, you've been watered It's taken you a
while, you know, two or three years to climb up there, and
for some reason you get watered down. They mentioned Seinfeld for for instance.
Okay, well you know when when Larry David left, that's when that thing
just started to spiral a lot of control. But you could tell by the
third or fourth year. And once again, we watch it. If it's
anything over the fourth or fifty year, we don't watch it because it's it's
like they're almost running out of ideas. And I hear, like the right,
the original writers move on and now they're making you know, a tons
of money, and they bring in out of the writers and they try to
change stuff. Larry David, who is funny in a way. I'm not
a real big fan of his, but when he left, it started to
lose it. But it hung on for him like five years. Man,
and they're doing stories about you know, craming with a chicken and I mean,
come on, you know, I mean pull the plug and you're having
a rick shaw and I'll cash services. But if you have a doobie one
night and then you put on some red Seinfeld has a really good time.
I miss that, just for a comedy kick when you need it, really,
Yeah, you know, I mean, let's face it, you know,
comedy is the kind of thing where there's so many different styles, so
many different tastes in comedy. There are people who are going to love one
kind of comedy and hate another. Yeah, but it's funny, it's funny.
Though funny is funny? I mean you can no, that's not true.
It's all subjective. This is what you think, what you think is
funny, what I think is funny, what anybody thinks is funny is it's
a personal thing. I think for a semester, I studied at the in
Chicago Second City in Chicago, I studied there for a semester. Yeah,
and you'd get in there every you know, for every class, and then
we're about twenty or thirty of us in there, yep, and we just
it was all improvised. Yeah, yes, okay, yes, and uh
they you know, they taught us how to improvise. And it was like
a semester long was right before nine to eleven, okay, sure, and
every every night. It was just you were laughing for like three hours.
Yeah. So those a lot of those guys went on to Saturday Night Live.
And my question is why did they stop being funny then? Because that
that's that's going to be among at least least one a for terrible shows.
And we'll get to when you get to meet, but set in it show
used to be wonderful. It was must watch. You're on a date and
You're coming back live is on first chair? Yeah yeah right, it's cheap
entertainment, right, okay, but it's first and Roses is going to be
the entertainment. It's been around. Yeah, it's been around for thirty years.
And there Richards and the expensive wine ups. Those people at Second City,
they were crazy, it's funny, but I think they toned it down.
The police would come in occasionally because like they'd be walking around the outside
of the building at the top floor on the wall. Really have to command
and tell them get all off the wall. You're gonna die, you know.
But every other class somebody the police had to come in and stop breaking
up. They're living, They're not okay through the noses. That is interesting,
okay, cool, but just to go back to our original premise is
that it just seems that the Office, remember The Office? Okay, I
watched that, like for the first two years, I felt that I was
the only person watching it in the original not the British one, the British
one is, but the American one. And then once it kind of hit
it, they they you know, all of a sudden, you know,
it turns into friends. That's what happened with Big Bang. Actually the first
two this is my turn, but the first two years of Big Bang actually
pretty good. But then they turned it into friends where they're just sitting around
talking about their fields and all that bullshit, and and I know that's what
people want, but that's just not funny to me, especially when they were
funny one season and then they're not funny the next you know. Yeah,
And that's the thing. It's like, you know, at the end of
the day, the people that are making the shows that I hate are appeasing
people that aren't like me. So I'm I'm impossible to please. So you
know, unless it's Twin Peaks or Twin Peaks adjacent, I'm just going to
be You're a huge David Lynch fan Raven yes, I love I would literally
uh. Over the weekend I watched I rewatched Dune the original, and then
we watched Yeah, and then we watched the remake. Really oh man,
couldn't get into killing me? Yeah? Yeah, I turned it off after
the big creature in the What is that huge creature with the big worm?
The worm? Yeah? It's hot? Wat Did I hear that when you
watch? Maybe Trevor can elaborate on this. If you watch the new Dune
at the theater have popcorn containers that look like the worm, people said.
Some people said it look like a flashlight, but it's supposed to be.
I almost said, it depends on how you use it. Is there hole
in the bottom? It does look like it does? You know it does?
That's exactly like a fleshlight attached to a bucket. That's what the That's
what the remake worm looks like because the original one was more of like a
flower pedal design, and this one is more of a flesh light design.
This is more of a Jorji O'Keefe. Let's talk about that flower. Hey
listen, Trevor, you new here, so why didn't you explain to the
audience exactly what a fleshlight is A fleshlight is a It has a handle very
similar to a flashlight or the old fashioned long stem flashlights, and at the
end of it is a mold of a Usually it's a famous porn stars vagina.
Okay, boom, I was one way we're going to get to the
punchline. Okay, go ahead. A good fleas a good flash flight.
Uh. It's battery operated and it it it simulates the motion when you put
your member inside of it, and uh, it simulates having coitus. Okay,
all right with with your favorite porn star Hwy five of them. Okay,
so you know of what you said. Actually I know about Trevor.
I don't know if you guys know this, but the movie Lars and the
Real Girl is movie Trevor a good movie movie. Wow, Oh that was
great. Okay, I don't know what I'm going to edit that out.
I'll leave it in and just you know, think put it on a loop.
That's what my date said. That's what my date said. Anyway.
Okay, Wow, hey, so Raven, you had your best in your
worst. Okay, why don't we go to uh when we go to doctor
Bob, This would be interesting. Doctor Bob, So your favorite TV start
with whatever one you want that was your favorite, Okay, my favorite one.
The TV show was Hill Street Blues. Yeah. And the one thing
that it was really interesting to me because like Hill Street Blues, like it
was the named Stephen Baccio. Uh I grew up in Pittsburgh, Okay,
and uh now that was that TV show was filmed in like Pittsburgh, Buffalo
and Chicago. And when I, uh I did my undergraduate degree at Duqune
University in Pittsburgh, Okay, I did my student teaching in the Hill District
and that's where this a lot of this TV show was filmed. And you'd
see that the the the TV show was something that I would see almost every
day when I'd go up into the Hill filming. Yeah, huh really yeah,
and you know, all the crime and everything seemed like there was a
lot going on. But I'd see that almost every day when I would go
up there. It was the first really really a wild place to work.
I went up into that district to find out. I did student teaching in
a school called Herron Hill School, which was up in the top of the
hill, the Hill District in Pittsburgh, and I couldn't find the school,
so I had to go to a So I went into a gas station to
ask for directions, and I was only like three blocks away, but I
was lost, and they gave me directions and they charged me for the directions.
They said that'll be five dollars. I started. I said, oh
yeah, so I started walking really fast in my car and they came after
me. No that in that case, you pay them the five bucks.
I'm sorry. But anyway, Okay, if something like school one time,
as the alarms went off early five minutes in the school and there were like
twenty stores that got robbed because they didn't get a chance to put their gates
down to prevent the students from getting in and you know, robbing the stores.
Wow, uh, that whole you know, when i'd watch it then,
because I did my student teaching there in like sixteen or seventy. But
then when I would go home and start watching you know, the TV show
Hillstreet Blues, and I had seen that, you know, sometimes i'd see
that same corner. Yeah, some of the same people that were there when
I was doing my student teaching. Maybe the people you ran into were acted
just shipping that. So what was your what was your what's your least favorite
show? Well, my least favorite show. Like I said, I don't
watch a lot of TV, but there was one as a kid growing up.
It was called Science Fiction Theater. Oh that's a great show. Are
you kidding me? Oh? Come on, doctor Bob. I thought we
were friends. Really where we were. The reason I didn't care for is
because it scared the hell out of me. Oh yeah, okay, okay.
It was like I was born in forty eight, and that was about
fifty five, fifty six to fifty seven where that was going on. Of
course, we had one of those black and white TV. We're talking about
a different than mystery. We're not talking about science mystery, mystery, Science
theaters different you Okay, that was from the fifties, right, yeah,
yeah, yeah, Oh I guess you seven. I remember one night's watching
that show by my I was a little kid. Yep. It was the
first time that they had UFOs on and they had a he was a someone
was a minor in Mexico and a flying saucer beamed him up and they had
to figure out and he he accidentally had this device that they could trace him
with, you know, to find Saucers and it's Scared the Daylight. Yeah
yeah, funny weeks yeah yeah, yeah, but that's the I mean,
I loved watching it, but it scared me to death. They used to
in Boston. They had something called Fantasmic Features, okay, and they had
a guy named Sheep and his head was like a ping pong alien guy.
But they would have movies on that were just a bit scarier than your kind
of normal movies, you know. I mean, like, yeah, the
Attack of the There was something like the Attack of the Giant Crabs or something
like that, and they actually show a guy getting cut in half and stuff.
It was kind of graphic. Let me put graphic the kid. And
you'd go to a movie theater, you know, would get too scary.
I'd crawl underneath the seat, really, I mean, and you could tell
how scary the movie was because remember those little Jugi beads. Yes you get
in the theater, yes, and you'd get kun how many black Jugi beads
you had on your shirt? Hey wait, we're walking home. That showed
you how scary how many times it ducked? Okay? Cool? Why doctor
Bob, so listen, why don't we do this. Why don't we take
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It's a good one. It's fun so far getting a few laughs out
of it so far. A few laughs, that's all you can hope for.
Okay. Also with us talking about a few laughs, I don't want
to say very few, but a few laughs. Switch plays Steve one on
National corresponding, Switchy, great to be here making everybody laugh, making everyone
laugh, okay, just with your presence. He looks diabolical tonight. I
don't know, maybe I said that before. But you've got the lighting.
He's got the lighting and the Carol Channing glasses, doesn't okay? All right?
Switching also a rendition of Hello, Dolly. Well, you know if
we get if it gets slow, okay, we need extra time. Okay.
So in this studio with us is Alan Andol Hey Mack, Hello everyone,
Steve right, club's not here today. Maybe that's why you're being diabolical
because you're it took care of club during the week. What do you mean,
take care of well? He's not here? Is okay? Well?
All right, he'll turn up. Okay, I wonder thank you out holy
cow. Okay, also with us is a favorite good witch up dude in
Siways, Raven, Raven, How are you hi, my friends? I'm
doing great, Thanks for having me. Was that an orange juice? I
just caught you drinking half of the glasses. I didn't think you were coming
to me, so I was like, oh, let me just do it
quick, quickli. So what are you drinking tonight? Is it uh ginger
ale? Yeah, it's gingerrele okay, mixed with but is that col stuff?
Is that that? No? Okay, get this, let me spill
the tea. So Colish is not back yet. And because I uh have
absolutely no self control when it comes to that stuff, like, I just
don't know how to act around it. I have gone through all of my
backstock of Colsh and my cat is here, so please don't yell at her.
She's a baby, Okay. So I have two cans of Colsh left
and it doesn't come back to the supermarkets until March twenty fifth, a week.
I'm actually having a raspberry jam in tonight, which is from my local
brewery. It's very good. I just I do love my colsh Okay,
you're going to bring some of that next time you come to visit. No
a, yeah, if you can't, you know, if it's if it's
what does it for? You get to bring it so we can well see
you. I guess prime you know, wait in man, you guys.
But not the last time I was there, but the time before when we
were at the UFO fest. Ahead, Yes, I was hammer Okay,
wow, you really like past? What I should have been at? Well
we did that. Well, we went down the calm. There was some
drinks at the Max's. Yeah, that's okay, that's what you will.
Full The conferences are all about an abduction bait. It was before we even
got there. I was, I was drunk. Yeah I will. I
will bring a case of cols the next time I come come up. Okay,
drop the house and we'll sit it on max deck and we'll sit down
and drink it. No, okay, we'll put it on the company card.
We can go. We've got to repair the railings, got to repay
the railing for us. The whole half of the railing went out on the
windstorm the other day. So you know, no, no trouble. Yeah,
it's okay anyway, wow, where was I? Thank you very okay.
Also with us is once again we need a doctor on call twenty four
hours a day, doctor Bob Gross. How you doing doctor? Just turn
your head and cough go that's the name of his new album. We keep
asking you this, but what are you a doctor of I've a doctor of
education, so I could can t shat institutes of higher learning as well as
conduct research. Oh wow cool okay, uh, you said, what is
it? Training? Hend and cough? Shall I tell my go for tell
my joke. Yeah. The guy goes into the doctor's office and he's get
he gets his exam and you know, it comes to the point in the
exam where he has to go through the test the process with the reublic glove
and so and so. The doctor says, okay, here, you know,
it's time take your position. The guy takes his position and yeah,
he said, starts the procedure and the doctor says, Tom, hey,
listen, calm down, don't worry. It's not unusual for people to get
an erection during these and the guy says, I don't have an erection.
The doctor says, yeah, but I do. What I was going through
my job. Yes, sorry, doctor boss. Yes, and they do
that same thing. They have you all lined up in the room and that
doctor gets behind you. Oh, and he says, bend over. He
stuck his use his finger shut. I said, does this mean we're engaged?
Oh no, you're supposed to tell you that happened to me one time.
You know. I assumed the position go ahead, and it just seemed
like it was taking a while. So I said, doc, is everything
okay? And he said, I'm not the doctor, I'm the janet.
Actually I've heard the guys say, hey, you should have taken your ring
off when you did that, and he goes, ring nothing, that's my
wristwatch. Oh how what happened? Off the road? We go, thank
you doctor. We appreciate also with us is h I'm glad? I asked
I have to flip a coint wh would have introduced? Thank you all one?
What are you introduced next? When when you go to super agent?
Jim Frankel? Jim, how you doing? Okay? I'm good, But
I think the rating on this thing just went from for PG two R that's
okay? Where's th f w H definitely went to that and all of our
English listeners. They're gone, they're gone. Yes, okay, they're going
to that's okay. We love you guys regardless. Start talking about the food
bangers and Mash. I love bank, I forget it. Yeah, yes,
the whole contradiction of TI. Yes, fish and chips. Yes,
that's about any that's where we understand that fish and chips. Anyway, Jim,
everything's okay with you, right, Yeah, we're having spring here more
or less. You're down in North Carolina. Some days it's in the seventies,
some days it's in the fifties. Okay. And you get that hat
on, right, the bulld arm hat. That's right, yep? Okay,
do you follow them? Wait for the baseball season to start again?
Really? Yes? Who were they a minor league team for the Cubs or
someone. No, they're for the Tampa Bay Rays. Oh okay, yeah,
yeah they're they're some of their A couple of their guys went from the
Bulls to the Rays near the end of the season last year. Rais are
good on talent, you know what I mean. They judge talent better than
a lot of other teams. Yeah, they're very good, and the Bulls
have been very very good. They won the International League year before last.
Nice yep, and they keep in second. They nearly won it again last
year. Yeah yeah, cool. Yeah. I think minor league ball.
When I lived in Sarato, they had the Glenn's Falls White Sox, and
we grew up there and we saw some of the guys who went up and
were heavy hitters in like the mid eighties White Sox. One of I forget
their names now, but they were all like these big, huge guys and
just went hit home runs like crazy. You know, we saw them in
minor league. You know, it's kind of cool to you know, kind
of see them, you know. So anyway, let's let's Trevor is our
special special guest tonight. Troup. What's your last name? You have some
kind of a royal name, right, Yes, my last name is Chamberlain.
Wow. Okay, and you're not Irish? No, no, it's
actually a pretty strange story. I'm I'm actually half Indigenous and half English.
Huh really well, yeah, my mother my mother was raised on a reservation
really yeah? Wow? Where whereabouts? Uh? It was. She's a
member of the Ute tribe. Uh there from the four Corners, So the
they were on a reservation in that area until she was a kid, and
then they moved to a slum in California called Cosmelia. And I'm not using
the word lightly. It literally was categorized as a slum and it was it's
it's it's indicative out bad the living conditions are on the reservation because my mom
says the slum was better paradise compared to the reservw Man, that sucks.
I mean that is yeah, you have to go back. I mean,
you know it would not go on to politics and all this stuff and woke
and all this stuff. But listen, you have to understand what we've done
to the Indigenous people. Okay, I mean the one hundred and twenty million
is the low estimate. One hundred and sixty million is the high estimate of
how many Indigenous people have been killed in this country in the last five centuries.
That is the largest recorded genocide in human history. And nobody talks about
it. You can call it wokeing. Oh, but listen, what you
have to do. You have to realize what history is. You have to
know what happened to make things hopefully better in the future. But if you
turn your if you close your eyes to what happened, then what good is
what you're going to do in the future. You know, you have no
foundation. You know, there's no hope. You have to know, you
have to know these things. That's what I in the you know, from
two thousand and five to two thousand and seven, I was working with a
Navajo tribe and then NASA. NASA hired me to recruit Native Americans into their
astronaut program for their Areas project because Native Americans thought differently about things, so
they wanted them to be astronauts so they could help them solve the issues when
they got to March. What a cool idea, I mean, you know,
and what happened though, what happened like the bah Well, I mean
I had to I worked with just the Navajos, yep and that was from
two thousand and five two thousand and seven, So I had to recruit the
best in the brightest Navajos and then I would recommend them to NASA and then
they they bring them on board. They needed people to think differently about things
because they told me they were going to run into things on Mars and other
planets that people who were educated in the Western cultures could not handle. Thought
that Native Americans could help them deal with those. Wow. Man, what
a cool idea and would have been cool if they did it. But you
know, who knows what I did it for a few years. Yes,
but have they been so, Trevor would not that you are the expert on
it. But has there been a Native American in space? I believe there
has. Yeah, okay, I believe there has. Yes, yeah,
it probably makes sense by this time. Wow. Anyway, So listen,
Trouble. We're going to throw it to you though. Okay, ye,
you get a good name, good kind of uh you know BBC drama name,
right, Treva Chamberlain. Yeah, oddly enough. I'm going to change
it in a few years. But I do admit that it is a good
It is a good name. I just don't want to carry it anymore.
What are you going to change it to? You know? I have no
idea? Yeah, okay, all right, one one is going to send
you one names, Trevora. Read those and be like, I'll just take
a handful of scrabble pieces and throw it at the role and whatever you know
falls down. That's what I'm going with, Raven. I wouldn't be surprised
if that's good for you man, So Trevor, So let's go with your
favorite TV show? Yo, the show? Your favorite TV show? Okay,
So I usually rate things two ways. Uh, what's the best that
I've seen? And what are my favorites. My favorites are the ones that
I can watch over and over again, Okay, the best ones. They're
the best, but they're challenging and might not be not something you want to
watch over and over again. My favorite TV show is also the best TV
show I've ever seen, and it's called Twin Peaks, and I I Am
not gonna say much more, uh objectively about it because Raven covered it already,
So sorry, sorry to get dark on you guys, but I'm going
to talk about it from a subjective point of view. It's just is this
a love letter to Raven? Do you want to? Just because I I
can't even look in the camera right now, I don't want to come across
like I'm, you know, jumping out her spot. So uh, there's
a lot of stories going on in Twin Peaks, and they're masterfully told.
Uh. But there's one thread that goes through the original series, the film
fire Walk with Me, which I just saw in the movie theaters two weeks
ago, and I'm going to see it again in a theater. I've seen
it. I've seen it five times in the movie theater, and it is
the most horrifying experience to see it in a in a film, I mean
in the theater. There is this story in Twin Peaks and one of the
stories, and it is the most accurate portrayal of that of this kind of
story I've ever seen, and I can speak to it personally. And I
know this might be shocking for one to be the first one who's hearing about
this since he's known my family for decades, but it is the best depiction
of child abuse I've ever seen, okay ever and because what it does,
it shows the arc of this character who's being physically and sexually abused. We're
talking about Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks. I walked with me the movie.
Okay, go ahead, and then it goes into the movie to get the
nuanced background of this abuse. And I've seen so many other stories about abuse
and it's very sad and the fallout and all this stuff. The truth that
Twin Peaks gets is the self destructive nature of the victim, the heavy drinking,
which is something I did. Being real shitty to your friends and the
people that love you, which is what I did. All of these self
destructive behaviors that start because of abuse, and thank goodness, through therapy,
I was able to get past it. But then it goes on to the
return, which drops the biggest bombshell on this whole story is that you find
out that the person that was sexually abusing her was sexually abuse themselves. And
then it becomes this story about generation and how this child made the decision to
be the one that's going to stop this ongoing circle of abuse. It is
masterfully told, so is the These are very heavy, you know, issues
and stuff. Does the re for it to be to explored on broadcast television
on the big three networks is insane? Right? Is it right? I
understand? I get that. Does the casual view will pick up on these
things? I have to watch it, watch it. I think that later
generations of viewers have picked up on the deep dive into it. Okay,
yeah, I'll tell you what. Whenever I go see fire Walk with Me
in a movie theater, which I do consider part of the television series it,
whenever I go see it. There is always there's always people that have
not they've they've both not seen the film and for some reason have never seen
Twin Peaks. And the first thing and what you will see is and and
it's it's so sad every time get up, and there's at least five women
in the audience that can't stand up, that are in absolute shock at what
they just saw. They thought they were going to go see this movie about
this quirky town and murder, and what they got was, well, that's
in fire walk with me, this story. That's a good that's a good
film, you know, I mean a film that if if if you do
a film and you know, people can't get out of their seats after because
they're so emotionally involved, that's good. So listen, So what's your what's
your least favorite? I can't wait to hear? Okay now now now I'm
gonna get fired. Now I'll get fiery and fun. Okay, So sorry,
sorry to go down the dark path, but Twin Peaks, but it
does mean a lot to me personally. The worst TV show I've ever seen
is actually a recent one. It's this piece of dog shit called Dexter.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, oh okay, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. Now heavily promoted the first two I'm sorry, go ahead,
heavily promoted heavily you know what I mean, promoted like France was. You
know, go ahead, I'm sorry. There's some background here. It was
shown on Showtime and oddly enough, with the exception of Twin Peaks, the
Return where Lynch negotiated control and complete control over the show. Showtime has a
reputation of ruining all of their good shows. Okay, they've done it time
and time again. They ruined Homeland, they ruined Masters of Sex, Home
ruined people. Tell me they ruined Weeds. I never saw weeds. But
listen, let me stop you right there, isn't Homeland a perfect example what
I said before, the first two years of Homeland unbelievably like compelling and you
bet, you know, in fast moving and stuff. And then when they
get fit, when they get popular, down the drain man just it's so
quickly went downhill. You know. Showtime loves the money, and if the
natural conclusion of a story is going to threaten their money, they intervened.
And the perfect example of this is Dexter because it conveys right away the natural
ending of the show. In the first episode, the basic premise is that
he's a serial killer who only kills other serial killers with a hot Yes,
he's a serial killer with a hot right, But it's projected right away that
in the end, the last serial killer he's going to have to kill is
himself. Yes, yes, that was apparent right away. Yeah yeah,
yeah yeah. So but they they they didn't go with that, right they
know. They went eight seasons, yeah, they they kept saying that they
were leading to it, and then in the last season the executives at Showtime
intervened. The writer's room was scrambling, and it just went in this direction
where the whole season was dog shit. Yep. And it literally ends with
him like walking away scott free because Showtime, of course, wanted to bring
it back a few years later to continue it, which is what they did.
Yep. I can see that. I can see. It's when I
get to my favorite and word shows. It's the exact same thing, you
know, it's the same thing. It's that you know, you like,
I'm just going to throw another example out there. This isn't one of my
shows, but we all know it. Breaking bad, Okay, breaking bad,
the first season of Breaking Bad, if you remember, it ends after
what's his name, you know, does a bad thing to that girl who's
the drug addict in the hotel. And then the last scene is that plane
exploding in the in the little girl's dog coming down that you come up.
Okay, ended there, and you know they were going to end it there.
But what happened is what you just said. It got popular, let's
scramble. It was good. It was okay after that, but nothing beats
the first season. The first season is like, oh my goodness, you
know, yeah, and that was a great way to end it, but
they didn't. But they didn't, you know, but anyway, go ahead,
traveling, I will say, I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm sorry
to interrupt. Go ahead please. I did watch the I don't remember if
it was just still Dexter or if they renamed it something different, whatever it
was, but when they when Schuhan brought Dexter back, I watched it because
so yes and no, like Clancy Brown wasn't it and that was amazing,
Like the actors were phenomenal and I very much enjoyed that it was in where
were they were they named Canada? I don't remember to Canada at the end
of the it's not like that they were in a snowy area and I really
I love the winter. So like for me, that was like a big
plus. It was fine, but it's like you said, like you knew
he was going to ultimately be like the final boss if you will type of
thing. So it's like, I don't want to like, you know,
spoil anything, but come on, we all know. But it's like for
me, like that show peeked with John Lithgow and they should have ended it
there because I mean, he was just such a great villain and the fact
that they continued it after that really bummed me out. But I did want
to watch it just so I could because I already finished, you know,
the original run of it. So I was like, let me just finish
it. And it was fine, you know, yeah whatever. But it's
like Trevors said, it said, you know, when you're when you're popular,
is the end of a story means the end of your money trail.
And you don't want that. You know, you'll do anything, you know
to keep it going, you know, so he listen, time, I'll
keep it going. We're gonna take a very quick break here now and we'll
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very famous one one hanging in there by a thread. Yes, I am,
ladies and gentlemen, my favorite girls that are out there that write to
me occasionally. Interesting, really yeah, I keep those I haven't been written
to in a while, so I don't know. It must have something I
said. But well, happy to be on the show as always, and
wow, I lived for this. Okay, there's a top ten in there
somehow. Thank you. Also with us is Switchblade Steve. What Switchy Great
to be here tonight, Matt. Okay, all right, I don't want
to how are your segment? But what did you have for breakfast today?
Well, I had the same thing I did last week, pancake and some
bacon. But for dinner tonight, I had to go down to Huntington.
Oh I stopped by waffle House. I got there waffle House, oh Man
for eleven bucks plus a couple of bucks coffee. Oh come on, do
you know waffle house. You get a waffle, you get a couple eggs
cooked your way, you get either either sausage, bacon, or ham,
and you get hash browns. Oh yeah, I love those. I think
that deserves a round of them. Yes, all right, Yeah, it's
a real about forty five fifty minutes to get to the closest waffle waffle house.
Yeah yeah. So also the place they had the big paddle on the
wall and you could paddle yourself. Well okay, I wish I okay,
that was really good. That might be in San Francisco someplace. Okay.
Yeah. That waffle house also had flesh lights. I mean, you know
a new special, the worm. Anyway, that's how they served your Coca
Cola. I worked Atlanta for two weeks. There's a waffle house at every
dish on both sides of the highway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're
going to ask me if I let this is one place I can leave a
tip? Oh really? Yeah? Huh okay, so uh so let's say
it was a loved Bucks so you you threw down it was thirteen bucks with
coffee. They're about okay, so you threw down seventeen bucks. I kipped
in books ten. But she must have been beautiful, you know. And
I thought, and it's waffle? And what was her name? What was
you? Waitress? Is his name? I don't know. I want to
say, Okay, can you send us pic? Yeah? That sounds right.
Yeah, Louise was off that day. Also with us is uh said
something about the quick Picker upper. Wh wait, don't say that wrong.
Also with us is the waitress of Dreams. Raven up there in sideways,
raving? Were you? Did you work at the Dunkin Donuts or something?
Did you manage the Dunkin Donuts or something? Or did? I've worked at
a lot of various food and retail companies throughout the years. Have you ever
been to Bondtender Donuts? Oh? God, yeah, yeah, don't blame
her, you know, I just cants in New York. Yeah, yeah,
Raven, did you have you ever been a bartender? No, I'm
a bartender for myself. I make a really good drink that I believe,
But you would be the I don't want it. This is probably gonna sound
bad, but you would be the perfect bondtender, you know what I mean?
You would you engage that all the drunken people at the bar, and
you know, kind of like the show. So here's the thing we're on,
Like, you know, a show. I'm not like nice really,
so like I wouldn't be like a good really yeah on the show? Okay,
yeah, like you know this is an act. She's doing it for
us. You just misunderstood. That's all that voice you just heard, is
uh? You home testify to that for sure. Anyway, Well, thanks
for joining us. We should let's start the cow now. We might have
to get out of here soon. But you can tell how dysfunctional I am
when I could admit that a woman saying that she's not nice or a really
mean person in real life is the most attractive thing I've please. And I'll
take another I'll take another hit for the Okay. Trevor Chamberlain guest tonight.
I'm just going to introduce him now he's going to change his name soon.
But thank you for you know, for inserting that. As the kids said,
good thanks for having your media guy media raza in Boston. Is that
it okay? All right? Yep? Yeah, there's a lot going on
here. Yes, they shoot a lot more films here. Yes. I
never got involved with those. I did live events, I did sports,
I did concerts, a lot of interviews, you know, I'm on that
side of it. I don't as much as I love film, the actual
workflow, the day to day work, you know. I can't do fourteen
sixteen hour day. Yeah, those that sucks. Yes, Yes, I
used to do commercials for Zaya's, a big department store. It'd be like
eighteen hours. Everyone's coked up, but may it was just horrible, horrible
stuff. But they wonder why cocaine is still rampant in the industry. Like
that's unbelievable in the industry, believable. This is back when I was in
film school. Real quick, I did go and I got a job on
a production company that did ads for Zayas Membersayas guys, right, And we
would go into this store. We went to the store in Saugust at like
eight o'clock at n I kicked everyone out and would stay there until at least
eight or nine the next morning. And I was the assistant to somebody assistant
who knows, Okay, so I had to like pick up the cameraman and
the assistant director at at the airport, right, and the assistant director is
the guy who's really in charge, but that's another story, okay. And
I picked him up, and I'm driving. I'm like the gopher, Okay.
I drive from the airport to the site. And they get out and
they're unpacking their stuff, and the guy goes into his uh, into his
luggage and he comes out with appear a dirty white athletics socks. Okay,
and I'm you know, I'm and there's like about half a pile of cocaine
in there. And this is before they would search you. And they say
they never go for the smelly socks. You know, this is long before,
and everyone was like, just coked. That's a great idea, yeah,
really back then, and and and you know, and and I suppose
they thought, and I'm the only guy who's not in on this all right,
because I had a family connection to the people. I didn't want my
parents to know him, you know, blowing up and and I suppose I
tried it helped them, but it all did is just get you through the
night, you know what I mean. Didn't add to the creativity and one
of that stuff, you know. But yeah, that was that was like
my first one of my first jobs, soon out of film school. So
anyway, so listen, we're all this. I didn't know. I didn't
introduce everybody. Trevior, that's your introduction, doctor Bob. What's up pulse
tonight? What's the prognosis? Hey, I'll tell you this is exciting a
bunch of filmmakers hanging out telling the story. Yeah, Devin's I'm boring normally,
but I agree with you. Okay. You know it's too bad club
isn't here because he's saying, right now, you know, I've learned a
lot tonight. Yes, this is really a great show. Right yeah,
yeah, yeah. While he's eating his chin and he's eating treats in between
taking potshots up my hair, he has to pass. I feel like he
was behind the lens throughout the whole show, right, he's looking in on
us, also with us as super literary agent. Jim Frankel, Jim how
you doing. I'm good, I'm good. What are you drinking that?
Ask me my favorite and least favorite shows? Okay, are you drinking scotch?
There is that? What's in that class? No? What class?
Okay? Listen, So why don't we Why don't we throw to you first?
Okay, I've introduced everyone close to them. Now let's go to you,
Jim, We're going to go to one one first. Well, let's
go to you first. So you've been around you were me and entertainment super
literary agent, et cetera, et cetera. You watch a lot of TV.
I'm guessing well, depends on the on the decade. Okay, decade,
I've watched very little. Okay, that's a lot, and most of
the time in between. Okay, so you have a least favorite show,
So let me you do any the least favorite first. Do you want it?
Okay? All right? See, you know I have a feeling there
was a show called t H. E. Cates Robert Loggia as a second
story guy who was actually a good guy. Yep. And you know it
was a great concept. I thought, terrific concept, except for one small
problem. There were no plots, so he was what was he was going
that happens was burglar. He was a good burglar, right, he was
a burglar with a gold type thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I remember that. I remember the title the second story guy. But
this setup was great, a great setup. But whoever was writing it had
no idea about story how to do it? Yeah yeah, funny yeah yeah,
And that was so frustrating. I wanted to if if if I had
had more than one TV, I would have thrown a shoe through the one.
Yeah right, Okay, interesting, Okay, So, so favorite show.
I got a feeling you're going to say friends. Are you going to
say friends? And we're just gonna be disappointed? Okay, No, I've
watched some Friends. I only have watched Some Friends since Matthew Perry died,
just because I was curious. But it's OK. But it's got the flaws
of a lot of those ensemble shows in that it's a limit. As somebody
pointed out, there's a limit to the permutations, to the combinations of what
you can do. And it seemed to me like it was an endless cycle
of one's everyone else so and so loves so and so does Yeah, I'm
going to get married oh god knows, no one loves anyone like move on,
so so forget about that. But a quick question that did can't last
a full one season or just a half a season? Do you remember?
I don't think it lasted more than a half a season. Okay, I
think you're right. That'd be thirteen episodes back then when they probably something like
that. But that's for my favorite show. I think my favorite show.
You know, there's there there's a lot of good TV right now, you
know, the last few years there's been really peaked TV. Don't that excuse
everything. But back in the day, there's another another show called Saint Elsewhere,
which was which is Tom Fontana, very early Tom Fontana, and it
was originally I think Boo was involved as well. Yeah, yeah, and
that show terrific cast, great cast and great writing, and the characters were
just really they weren't you know, they were all complicated characters. It was.
It was very you know, the characterization can make such a difference,
and the writing obviously is what does that addition to these But do you really
want to see a show about a gritty hospital? I can see being a
gritty police wasn't just that it was a gritty hospital. It was also very
funny. Do you want a funny hospital? Do you really want to find?
It was very strange. It was strange, it was. It was
an odd show. Yeah, I do. It was an odd, odd
show. My favorite episode was probably the one where somebody goes to heaven.
Oh that's good. Yeah. Music. They had a musical at least one
musical episode. I remember that, yeah, which was just off the wall
and really they broke so many rules and it was it was great fun.
It was a if you have a funny hospital, just like you can have
a funny person of wark there. You always say that. Imagine the guys
who go into the pitch meeting and they're going to pitch Hogan's heroes and they
go, okay, now listen, just listen to us here for a second.
Okay, it's a funny show by the Nazi walk half insane. No,
no, listen to us, listen to us. And it gone on
that show. That was show a huge here. It was like on for
eight years. It was funny in a way. Yep. And they say
the secret is will make the Nazis such morons that it will be funny,
And that's how they did it every Nazi and is a moron of course us
so yeah, woking seers. So yeah, it's at elswhere it was.
It's it's a it's a famous show. It was around for a while,
lot around and reruns a lot. It all looked great. It always kind
of looked grainy and kind of dock to me, you know, kind of
you know, like you're in a really bad, funny hospital type thing.
Well it was supposed to be a bad hospital. Yeah, yeah, that's
what I mean. It's like Boston City Hospital. I don't want to yeah,
okay, well Jim, so let me go to Uncle el here,
Uncle Allen, and then we'll go to street. Don't want to take one
one now, we'll go to one one one, and then I'll go last.
Okay, if we have time, go ahead, be quick, okay,
okay, this will be fairly quick. Okay. Best TV show ever
start the original Star Trek. Yeah that's true. Yeah, it went from
when do you think about it? It went from cowboys and Indians and maybe
maybe some detectives to it puts sci fi on the map. It was,
you know, they pitched it to Lucille Ball from Desilu and they said it's
going to be in space. It's gonna be it's gonna be wagon train in
space, and it's it was gonna be a wagon trained to the stars,
is the way they sold. And she thought it meant wagon trained a lot
of Star people on it, you know, Star, and so she green
lighted it. So I mean that's I mean. I remember as a kid
watching the original Star Trek and I used to have to go to my friend's
house on Thursday nights to watch it because he had a color TV and it
was in color. And I remember like just sitting there and just been blown
away by it was good as the Star Trek and nothing. Well, that
way you could tell who was wearing the red shirts was gonna die? Yeah,
who had no name? It was a guy. It was always the
guy in the away team that didn't have a name. He always died.
The guest star you know, well, I haven't seen him before he gets
fried by somebody. But talk about an iconic TV show, I mean really,
I mean, I think they figured out that more people in the in
the and you know, in twentieth century, more people followed Star Trek up,
you know, more than anything else, you know, Star Wars,
whatever, more things have came out of came out of start Track, those
Star Trek conventions. Oh my god. Yeah. It was only on for
two years, two and a half years, you know, I mean,
I'll think about the demographics. This was before they did they canceled Star Trek
before they did demographics, and then they found out with the reruns that was
it was perfect. It was exactly what the advertisers want. And every year,
the second season and third season, the suits, the TV weasels kept
cutting the budget. Yeah yeah, yeah, really yeah, and that's why
they had no money, no money for sets and stuff. So they would
beam down to the gangs to plan that they beamed down for the cow.
Great it was, yeah, but it was so called the stories shows.
They were just on board the thing, flashing lights, trying to take over
people. My favorite episode was a piece of the action, which was where
they were to go down the gangs and the gangs. It was perfect,
really, I mean, it was excellent. Your worst show, worst show,
here we go, television show. Worst show is the City on the
Edge of Forever. That Joan Collins, and she when she gave a talk
at one of the Star Trek events, she said, people remember her As
who was a Alexus, that bitch on Dynasty. Y know, I was
that nice Edith Keeler, Yes, she certainly was. Remember remember we had
the uh, we had the Gone. The guy who actually played the Gone
on the show a few Yes, I remember him. Yeah, he was
good. Yeah, he either went out in the des and went a drunk.
I don't know. He was boiling in that. Yeah, yeah,
he was a he was a he was a very famous stunt double and cowboy
cowboy movies and stuff, and that he put the rubber suit on. He
was boiling it. That was that's last last star trek thing would be Oh
the was it of h Well, you know the Troyas. Yes, she
was unbelievable righteous woman. So that would be my best. What's the worst?
Worst would be anything from that point forward with a laugh track with smart
ass kids that you know, that's my parents. What what's going on?
I hate that? I mean any I have I mean you guys are talking
about shows like Friends, full House, Seinfeldt. I've never seen a single
episode twin Peaks. Nothing. Sorry, as soon as I get a look
at win Peaks does not have a laugh track anything. Watch it's what's any
of those anything, any any current sitcom sitcoms to me, some of the
funny not Fanny, but I have to stick up a modern family. Modern
family has kind of Fanny never saw it. Seinfeldt was funny in the first
few years we talked about before Big Bang Theory, the first couple of years.
Now, how about this for a pitch. Nerds get hot chicks.
I mean that's what it is. And it's like, how these nerds get
really good looking girlfriends beyond all rational you know, explanation for it. That's
a great concept. But when they all have girlfriends, they turned it into
friends, literally into friends. They should have they should have just made it
Revenge of the Nerds the movie. Yeah right, okay, but yeah,
yeah, in one movie done, I'm gonna go We're gonna go one one
one because we're running out of time. We don't want to rush him one
one. What is your favorite TV show all time? Falty Towers Americans.
I thought you were actually the storyline was based on a hotel. He actually,
yeah, it's funny. But then along with uh, the Monty Python
Troop. Nothing, Python's funny. Great, It's alright, it's okay,
It's it's funny. It was only on for two seasons, six episodes.
Really, yeah, Mac, don't forget I'm going to deport you because you
don't like cats. That's right, so you can be on my side.
Wind up in Siberia. Well, and what's your least favorite one? Faulty
Towels, Sam and Pam and Tom Pam and Tommy. The movie was terrible?
Yes, yes, really? And series that private take, I haven't
nothing that bad. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he has a personal
steak in it. Well, he has a personal stake in it. Lily
James played Pamla Suer innocent. That's the stand was the greatest. It's incredible
casting, incredible casting for someone like her who came from my down on Abbey
to you know, Lily James, the Love of my life from Johnson Abbey,
Lady Rose go ahead, and for other cool movies that she's been in
since then. Yes, but Pam and Tommy just me throw up. Really
and I was watching it, I really did. I really wanted to like
it because of the prurient interest I had in the movie, in the series,
because of the plot line was you know, you know what the plot
line was. Their sex tape was released by this guy by Seth Rogan Ohn
right, yeah, he did that, right okay, and he stole the
tape and then released it and got all kinds of money. Did the ship
hit the fan? But you know, uh, I was stunned and shocked
at at how what Lily James had to go through to look like she did.
She acted well in it, but she really came across as Pam Anders
said, go ahead, but it it disturbed me because of this is how
when an actress, to me gets maybe a little bit type casted. I've
always saw a once in Downton Abbey. That was the only time I met
her. You know, I expected her to be like Downton Abbey, not
in this movie. But it's it's like blurred my vision of how she was
supposed to be as an actress. Well, he's been good, that's God.
Yes, okay, you need I can. I can salvage her for
you. She just did a movie, an excellent movie that not a lot
of people saw, and I encourage all of you to see it. She
was just in this film called The Iron Claw, which was about the von
Eric brothers who were wrestlers in the ear And I'm not spoiling any of them
anything. So many of the brothers committed suicide, so much debt. And
she gives a performance in that film as the wife of one of the von
Eric brothers, and she is seen amazing. She's it's a great it's a
great movie. Yes, it is actually good, very good good movies.
She's a the movie Yesterday about a guy against content in the head and he
comes back and there's no Beatle music in the world he but he knows Beetle
music. She's really good in that. You know, she's one of these
people. I hate to say it, but you know, soon as she's
on the screen, boom, you fall in love with her, you know
what I mean. He can't take your eyes off her, all that kind
of stuff. And she's just really good in that. And then I start
out and not outtakes by bits and pieces of Pam and Tommy, and I
was like, wow, what what did you do here? You know?
Maybe she just wants to stretch or whatever. Okay, So anyway, so
one one those are your best in your ears left guitarer is the best.
Pam and Tommy. I have kind of like a recency bias on that move.
Maybe there's worst movies TV series I've seen, but Pam and Tommy takes
it. Yeah, that's it's pretty bad, just a bad movie. So
I think it's just me right left, it must be Yeah, I think
you're it. Okay, So I'm gonna say this will be funny. It
might not be that funny. I'm gonna say. My favorite, really looking
back on it, and just effective TV show, just like an effective TV
show was The X Files. Oddly enough, okay, when it first came
on once again, the first two years, the first two years of that,
I just I hate these the word compelling, but it is. And
the chemistry was right. And here's an odd thing too, you know,
just looking at it from you know, a guy's point of view, what's
your name? Who is the redhead? At the time, she was very
unusual looking on TV. Okay, she's not this kind of classic puge,
but once again, it's one of these you know, you couldn't keep your
eyes off her, you know, she's and they put her in like severe
lighting, which like made that like end it, you know, ye yeah,
and she she was she had a sexuality without being sexy, that type
of thing. She's always were in spirits and everything is cool. Listen.
So it was very good and in fact, and the and the stories were
you know, I mean, I can imagine I can like getting creeped out
at a TV show. You usually don't get creeped out of TV shows,
but I remember being creeped out locking the door and stuff, you know,
and really really good. But then they get and so here's my worst one,
the X Files, because then they they got bad. You know what,
I agree with you there too, it's so bad, so bad.
And then it's that's the greatest example of a production company selling out the integrity
of its show for the money. I can't think of a bigger example of
that. I find. I still find Dexter to be the worst. But
X Files is the biggest. Was the biggest show. Yeah, yeah,
the biggest to have that happen. It is so sad what they did,
and they ruined it. You don't go ahead all you're and she get pregnant
by a nailing or something at the end of that. Who knows. They
were really strong. It's like, you know, they started with the cigarette
guy and you know, halfway through femurs involved, and it's like, what
the fuck? You know, you can't follow it. You know, and
you can tell the last episode had no idea what they were going to write.
Oh, let's blame it on that guy, you know, and then
that's that. The season ending, it was just so disappointing. And and
going back to Twin Peaks and with the Xbox two, is I keep hotted?
Is the music Like when I think of Twin Peaks, Okay, that's
that's a that's like three notes, okay, But it's so iconic when you
hear it, it's Twin Peaks. When you hear the X Files theme,
it's the x Files, you know. And then and this part of it,
that's that's a big part of it, I think, you know.
And you're gonna do a show on on scores and soundtracks, Yeah, yeah,
yes, yeah, switch with movies. I literally just bought these on
vinyl the other day. Beverly Hills Cop and what's the other one, Jerry
Goldsmith Star Trek the Motion Picture? Oh wow, yeah cool, very cool.
And then I have all the Twin Peaks films and shows on on vinyl,
all the all the music, yeah, I mean, score is music.
So it's just such an important character shows and movies. Kid, if
you ever want to shape sorry, this is I don't know if I've ever
mentioned this on the show, but as a kid, so I'm a child
of like the nineties, you know, and I love The X Files,
but I hated the music. It made me so upset. It was so
like, it was just so intense and I could not handle it. And
LLL can back this up that when I was a child being traumatized by the
music of The X Files, I would run up to my room and LLL
and my mother would turn the volume way up on the TV in bed and
they were like, oh, oh my god, it's so funny. And
I'm like, oh my god, here's there are people on Twin Peaks.
I'm in the frontier who does a lot of the music. I'm sorry,
Angelo, I confused. My composers. Was it talked about how they got
that first, remember how you got that kind of mellow twin beings and then
it kind of changes to something so dark and so and so. Uh.
David Lynch is laying back and Angela Bellamente is at the piano, and David
is saying, okay, we see this young girl, you know. Then
he starts out with the music and then she's kind of lost in the woods.
She recedes into the woods and she's so sad, and he goes if
he does this, and he says okay, he said, oh, that's
that's perfect. And he says, okay, David, I'll go home and
work on it. He says, no, that's perfect. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yep, yep. I mean that stuff like that
happens a lot. The first thing that comes up usually is the best thing.
You know, if you bang it every if you screw around with it,
you're gonna lose it. It's gonna I mean, they're they're so good
at just translating emotion. Yeah, that's why they're good instantaneously, That's why
they're doing That's why they do what they do. I mean John Williams Double
seven music is so look look at that, think about yeah, yeah,
yeah for sure. So anyway, so look, uh, I think we're
at the end of the show. We everyone is uh giving this. We
did it all right, that's good, Okay, let's give us. Let's
give us all the round of applause. We will sweeping up in post.
So I want to thank everybody. Let me start by thanking super Asian super
literary agent Jim Frankel, and we're going to clap for him for once again
because he has sent me letters. Why don't you clap on me, Joys
for the glitch at the beginning I have. That's okay, No one knows
about that. You know that was It was a lot of fun to watch
though. Speaking for myself, it's a hilarious blue book. It's eating by
the way, over the year, I was eating a bagel. Beg.
Okay, yeah, that's good. I need a bag right, cream cheese
or what it's regular cream cheese and light smear cream cheese and light smear butter.
Yeah, the cheese really smear. Hey, it's a technical term.
Is it toasted? I know it. I learned it in Birdcage. I
love a good smear. Yeah, almost almost naked gun. Let me thank
everyone, Jim, thank you for bringing up the whole bag. Doctor Raven.
Let me send you my ring size so we can get this going.
He's a joke in there somewhere. We don't have to thank you, doctor
Bob. We appreciate it, Doctor Bob, Thank you, Thank you a
great show. Let's see, we're gonna thank Trevor Chamberlain. Now, thank
you Trevor for joining us. Do you know what you're going to change your
name to? Is it just going to be like, no, a middle
name? I do. It's terrible. I don't even want to say that's
come on, why not? It's that kind of show. What's your middle
name? I can understand it's it's it's Edson E D S O N.
Not even Edison. It's it's better than edseel right, definitely if you if
you were over eighty, you'd get that joke. Thank you Trevor for joining
us. We really appreciate it. I want to thank you for having me
on here to discuss my middle name and to give a five minute monologue on
flashlights. Yeah, thank you so much. Well done, well done for
you show. Yeah, thank you. It sounds like you would. I
always wondered what they were. Well now you know, and he sounds like
he knows what he's talking about, which is good for radio. Thank you
very much. This is a lot of fun, Raven. It's time fresh
to say goodbye to your Raven. The Satus put so much for having me.
I had so much fun. These are really really great. Really yeah,
okay, instead of getting drunk with five white guys tonight, you were
with six make a difference to it was a really nice change of pace.
Okay, where did you come up? When do you come and visit the
next day? He put the booze. He again, I know, I
know the show another show. Thank you, thank you, Switch, Thank
you Switch, pure as always, one question for Switch, go ahead,
yes, Switch. What's that image behind your head? That is a blurry
moth man in my studio? Here? Truth is, it's not an expensive
studio. That is a shower curtain. Okay, I couldn't more. You
want to know, Jim, Okay, thank you, thank you, Switch
for joining us. I thank you all. It was the car running.
It's going to it's going to get there in twenty minutes as soon as the
MBB we will. Oh that's right, we're good. You're running late,
right one one. Thank you very much for joining us. We appreciate it
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