WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.799 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female home builder with a 2 00:00:03.839 --> 00:00:07.919 passion for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack. 3 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:11.359 With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family 4 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:13.759 on a date with me. That's a good note. It's goddemn weird. 5 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:18.600 See. Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company in the country. 6 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:23.160 You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it 7 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.559 just doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of 8 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:31.839 construction, real estate, development, design and more. Here. I'm predictable. 9 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:34.159 Every time I think I know what you want, you switch it out. 10 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:37.600 But that's what makes your houses all your day. Discuss anything that happens 11 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:41.280 between the roof and the foundation. Nothing is off limits. You truly do 12 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.000 care about everybody. She can yell at chicken screen, but when you get 13 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:48.000 her alone, she's the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough 14 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:54.600 as nails. Welcome to Cidy Stumpo Tough as Nails on WBZ News Radio ten 15 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:58.920 thirty and I'm here tonight with Samantha. Who's this lovely woman. I'm Marion 16 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:02.399 Ryan. I have the privilege to being the district attorney for a Middlesex county. 17 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:03.560 Is that a good thing? It's a great thing. You love your 18 00:01:03.599 --> 00:01:08.719 Joe. I love my job. How long? Eleven years? Eleven years? 19 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:14.000 Eleven years and still get up and love what you do? I do 20 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:19.159 love it. Now that position is what how do you get into that position? 21 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:23.560 It's an elected position with a four year term and we're on what you 22 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.319 know, I am just coming to the middle of my second year of my 23 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.159 third term full term, so now this one we have to start going back. 24 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.640 I'm campaigning again and you've been there for eleven years. Yeah, so 25 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:38.079 why would we change a good thing? Well, I hope that won't happen. 26 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:42.200 I think we're doing some amazing things in this county. We've really made 27 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.519 an impact on people's lives. Go ahead and talk about it. So I 28 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:49.719 think one of the best parts of this job, and there are some very 29 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.719 hard parts, you know, usually when we're responding something terrible has happened. 30 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:57.560 But one of the great things about this is we are number one. We 31 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:02.680 help people moving forward after something terrible has happened. Very often we're the first 32 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:07.280 people they're meeting with the police. Can you cite some an example like the 33 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.840 listeners so they understand. So for instance, someone may lose somebody in a 34 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:15.919 terrible driving under the influence crash, So there's that awful knock at the door 35 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:22.680 being told that something's happened. Now you're then catapulted into sort of a whole 36 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:27.080 different world of somebody maybe has been arrested, charged with what happened, or 37 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.000 we're doing an investigation to figure out what happened, and our working with our 38 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:37.280 attorneys and our advocates, we're helping you to understand that process, keeping you 39 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:42.319 updated on what's happening, and then really partnering with families to help them get 40 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:47.400 through the trial if we ultimately apprehend somebody and get to a resolution. So 41 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:52.280 there's that piece. The other great piece is we are able to take things 42 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:57.280 that we learn from when something happens and turn that into prevention, because it's 43 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.960 always better if people never meet us, if the crime doesn't happened. You 44 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:05.439 know, we've this morning, I was doing work with senior citizens, talking 45 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:08.759 to them about how to avoid being scammed. So we've seen from people who've 46 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:14.400 lost literally hundreds of thousands of dollars. How they were trapped in that scam, 47 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:15.960 yeah, and how they're trying to prevent them. Ray's mother got the 48 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:21.639 grandmother scam where the grandson called it. And she's going, it doesn't really 49 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.360 sound like you. Yeah, my nose is brunque was broken. Yeah, 50 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:29.280 And she went and she bought gift cards like this is. She has passed 51 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:32.000 away now a few years ago from pancreatic cancer, but she was sick of 52 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:36.960 the time and she still left the house on chemo and everything else, and 53 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:38.719 went and bought these gift cards because they were a grandmother. They're going to 54 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:43.560 take care of what they think somebody needs something like she and he said, 55 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:46.960 don't don't call my father, please write And so she didn't call. And 56 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.360 then by like the third time they told her to go back, She's like, 57 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.280 I better call somebody. This this can't be right. And of course 58 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:55.360 she called Ray and then ways like, well would you do so yes, 59 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:59.759 I mean, so that's what you're doing. You're doing preventing what we learned 60 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.960 from what happens. Then we take that out into the community to say, 61 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:04.800 you know, we know people are doing this. So for instance, people 62 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.919 now don't ask you for the gift card because that takes too long. They 63 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:11.719 just ask you to rub the back of the gift card and give them the 64 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.840 number. So you know, the bad guys get ahead of us, and 65 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.560 we try to take that information and share it with people so that they can 66 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:24.439 avoid this because we literally see hundreds of thousands of dollars and we are these 67 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:29.360 bad guys in other countries or they not always sometimes they're here. Sometimes the 68 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.199 money goes out of the country. Sometimes you have people here who are channeling 69 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:36.639 the money to somebody else. Remember that crazy call about ever Source and you 70 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:41.079 called the guy out. I get a lot of crazy calls. Somebody said 71 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:43.920 he was ever Source and that we hadn't paid the bill. Yeah, yeah, 72 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.720 yeah, ever Saurce. That was another scam. I'm like, buddy, 73 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.079 you're calling the wrong person. We pay our bills there, Okay, 74 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:49.720 no, no, no, we're going to shut your power. Well, 75 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:51.759 then shut my power off. I'll be waiting. We'll be sitting here waiting 76 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:56.439 for you shut our power off. But see, that's exactly when you say 77 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:59.399 it's going to happen, like you'll often people will often get a phone call 78 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:01.240 saying you Social Security checks are not coming. Well, now they're in a 79 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.879 panic. What am I going to do? Or we Today when I was 80 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:08.879 doing the program, somebody said they had called and said, the state police 81 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:12.319 are going to arrest you because your credit card was used to buy guns. 82 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.639 They're coming. He was in a panic, like, the state police are 83 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.519 going to come and arrest me. What do I do? Well, the 84 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.279 way you can fix this is give me your social Security number and send us 85 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:27.519 some money. But that's what people get frightening, especially if you know. 86 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.600 And one of the things we in another piece of what we've been looking at 87 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:34.360 is we forget how lonely people are sometimes and they're in their house by themselves. 88 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:38.600 Maybe they don't have family that they That's why we should go back in 89 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:41.959 time and live in three deca families again in some of them okay, and 90 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:45.399 grandmother, your great grandmother and the kids, and then everybody lived longer because 91 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:47.160 everyone's happy, right, I think, I don't know, maybe not, 92 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.040 maybe maybe not. But so that's what you're doing out there. You're also 93 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:58.600 doing prevention. You're doing we're really doing education. We're doing the That seems 94 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.680 like a lot of work for your for you and your team to be dealing 95 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.240 with I have a wonderful team with all the crime that goes on also too, 96 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:09.000 because that's really what you are. We have what's coming in the door 97 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:13.879 immediately, we're working on our old uncharged cases, and then we're trying to 98 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:18.360 do the prevention and education piece as well. Lustress. How many city and 99 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:23.079 towns are in middles fifty four it's a lot, Yeah, just about one 100 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:26.399 point eight million people. We are the biggest county. I was gonna say 101 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:30.120 that the population is of the Mississippi. Okay, So how many counties do 102 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:31.959 we have? We have Norfolk. We've eleven in Middlesex. I mean in 103 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:38.720 Massachusetts. So what are they? Suffolk, Middlesex, Norfolk, Hampden, 104 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:45.040 Franklin, Worcester. Yeah, I can't vote North Suffolk. That's all I 105 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.040 hear. You probably live in Norfolk, she does, Yeah, you do 106 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:51.319 brooklines at Norfolk. Norfolk. Yeah, but you're Suffolk. I'm Middlesex, 107 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:57.079 Middlesex. Yeah, because RUSSI said she's not part of our but where where 108 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.439 where we grew up new and is part of Middlesex. Yeah I knew it 109 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:04.480 was Middlesex and Stuffolk is Boston, right, got it? What it's why 110 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:08.480 I ask, because most people don't know that. And then you run yours 111 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.399 the way you want to run, they run the way they want to run, 112 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:14.439 and then you all ever get together and run once a month, well, 113 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:17.240 once a month we meet to just kind of talk over issues that affect 114 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.600 all of us, that sort of thing, got it? What's the biggest 115 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:23.639 issue right now? And we don't want to talk about that because we've got 116 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:28.920 a lot of issues. I would say the biggest issue for everyone everywhere is 117 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:31.680 mental health. I'd have to agree with that. Yeah, I mean probably 118 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:36.519 eighty five percent of every case of the cases we see, there's some mental 119 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:42.199 health piece that's going on there. And now we have less psychiatrists and we 120 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.600 don't have enough to go around right now, right, So what do you 121 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:46.439 do? We are you going to do? People are just a little bit 122 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:49.040 off, right, Like I I've suffed from panic attacks since twenty six years 123 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:53.639 old, so I understand it. And people just go, Cindy Stumble's got 124 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:57.240 panic attacks, Yeah, she does, imagine that. Why, I don't 125 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.480 know. Ask my mother and my grandmother because they gave them to me, 126 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.120 because they have them. But back then at twenty six, they want to 127 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:05.040 blame it on PTSD. You know, no, no genetics, thank you 128 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:09.079 very much, nean orm. But well, genetics are a huge piece. 129 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:13.199 It's also you know, we have this whole everything we've been through, it 130 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.360 had a ketch up on this right, being locked down COVID working under the 131 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:20.399 conditions. I was working full time. We were essential as you know in 132 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:24.639 Massachusetts as builders. But that wasn't a good way to be working. Being 133 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.800 afraid. You're you're afraid, you're I mean, I don't know anybody that 134 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.200 wasn't besides my kids not being afraid because it's literally spring my body with liphole. 135 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.759 You were, but your brother was running around kissing everything in the world 136 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:37.759 like you could care less, like he was in his twenties. Like I'm 137 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:39.679 not going to get this. If I get it, I'll be strong enough. 138 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.039 And and then there's everybody else that we're going I'm i gonna end up 139 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.960 an event lator I'm gonna endup dead. I mean, it's that was a 140 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:50.679 tough time and now it's showing all. It's, you know, the ugliness 141 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:54.960 that comes out of that, especially for young people, for kids. I 142 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:56.960 don't know, I don't even want to be around big crowdsy would you, 143 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.000 No, I know. I think of that now in a way I never 144 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:01.320 did before. Like, what do I want to hold a Celtics game? 145 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:03.960 I love the Celtics, right, there's players let live in my homes. 146 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.759 But I love you guys. I'll see you guys when you come home. 147 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.039 Right, Like, I don't really need to go. I don't want to 148 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.399 be there. It's a different like energy Boston experience. When you're there, 149 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.840 you're good. And then I'll get home. I'll come home and I'll get 150 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:18.200 sick. But hold that thought you're down. In one second, I'm Sidy 151 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:22.600 stumbleing you listening Tough of Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty and We'll be 152 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:35.200 right back, sponsored by Flora Decor, National Lumber and Village Bank. Oh 153 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:43.879 and Welcome back City Stumpo Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty and I'm 154 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:48.519 in the studio with n Now you go. It's good, Sammy, she's 155 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:50.679 the guest. She can go for you go first. I'm sorry Mary and 156 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.200 Ryan the district attorney in Middlesex. I'm chopped liver today. Anyways, It's 157 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.799 OK. Yeah, I fought with her the Peter Brady Why don't my kids 158 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:03.159 ca learned financial literacy? Is that like so high to learn? It's easy 159 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:05.559 to be It's nice to be our kids. God, no, it's nice 160 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:09.000 to be my brother. Okay, that's what my daughter would say too, 161 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.639 it's nice to be her. What's wrong with these people? These kids like 162 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:16.120 aliens? Like do you remember you got up and old? Went to was 163 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:20.039 younger? Oh? Let me just ask them a very simple question. Have 164 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.720 you been working your whole life? Yes? Have you been working as a 165 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:24.679 teenager yes? Did you always have a job yes? Did you have to 166 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.360 be held responsible, reliable and dependable? And when your father and your mother 167 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.720 gave you an eyebrow, did you know to go stage left? That look? 168 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.039 That look we used to call it the look. The look, it's 169 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.039 the one eyebrow looking. You went, okay, I pushed it. What's 170 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:43.159 wrong with the concrete today that kids don't wait to democraticly? You know, 171 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.960 my son's favorite word is pre much editor. I'm the oldest, therefore I 172 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.159 should have that. That's say, okay, and I got all the rules, 173 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:52.960 so I was the oldest. Yeah, yeah, I'm the oldest. 174 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.639 I got all the rules. And by the time everyone's like, get with 175 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.360 everything. Sammy says when she has and they're going to be working by eight 176 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.720 because that's a good idea. I like that idea. No, I just 177 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:07.840 don't understand, like, come on, we had grit, we had grind, 178 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.519 we had we had like we want to go. I'm eighteen, I'm 179 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:13.679 out of here, Like mom and dad, I love you to death, 180 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.440 but it's time for me to move all my life, like these kids want 181 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.600 to come home. She didn't really want me to go. I didn't want 182 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:22.519 you to go because you're specially you're in erees. You're just a special. 183 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.519 Two minutes ago, she wanted to punch my face special. No. No, 184 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:28.679 I was going to beat her up earlier, but no, just told 185 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.120 me leave everything that I don't need you. Yeah, she would have pitic 186 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.360 attack if I left. But at the end of the day, I just 187 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:39.159 want her to understand that times have been good the last decade, right in 188 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.039 our business, in our world and a lot of businesses, and now we're 189 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.840 coming into some shaky waters on water waters, yeah, water, water, 190 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:52.600 water, water waters. I just want her to know that it doesn't always 191 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.559 last forever. And when you get into business when the market's great, and 192 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:00.840 she did. She came into a good market at twenty six, twenty six, 193 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.240 twenty seven. These kids haven't felt what a bad market feels like. 194 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.679 But see, we will take care of that for them, don't we. 195 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.000 We will make it all good. But we hope we can make it all 196 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:13.879 good. But here's the difference. I could vicariously live through older people when 197 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:18.039 they told me a story this generation can't. Like if my mother and grandmother 198 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.559 told me a story of my grandfather, I listened right, and I could 199 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:24.440 put myself in their shoes. For some reason, maybe that was just a 200 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:28.120 talent that some people have, but I believe them. They're my parents, 201 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:30.840 my grandparents. They don't want the best for me, not the worst for 202 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.879 us. Right. But to go back to what we're talking about priors again 203 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.559 to our personal life with our kids is mental illness. And that's that's a 204 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:41.080 big root of the problems going on right now. Big root of it is 205 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.360 in some cases that is because people didn't get care for a long time, 206 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:48.440 you know, for two or three years, they really didn't get care. 207 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:56.679 There also is just a real shortage of mental health professionals that are available to 208 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.159 and there's also just and people forget this. And we've been doing a lot 209 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.039 of work around. This is just loneliness. You know, people spend so 210 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:09.080 much time kind of in their own head and on their own devices, they're 211 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.519 really unable to interact. And I'll give you a couple of examples. We 212 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.440 started two programs. One we started in schools, in middle schools, which 213 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:24.120 is called Nobody Eats Alone, because kids are just left a lot of times 214 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.919 kids are just they're the kid who's left at the table by themselves. So 215 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:31.080 it's a program where kids really agree to reach out if they see somebody alone. 216 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.399 And the starting I think they are doing it. I mean the place 217 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:41.440 the schools we've started, kids seem to really respond to it. The schools 218 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:45.240 have been good about putting together groups of kids, like maybe it's the class 219 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:50.799 officers, maybe it's the sports teams. And I think when you really explain 220 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.919 to kids how important it is, kids have been good. I'm always impressed 221 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:58.200 with kids. I just did a group and a lot of the kids talked 222 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.279 about how they have had at some point been new in the school, so 223 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.480 they knew what it felt like to be kind of the new person or to 224 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:11.159 be the person who didn't have a friend. We've also been in a lot 225 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.759 of communities we've been buying benches and again I want to break in on that 226 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:18.639 one. Okay, yeah, with my own personal opinion experience, My mommy 227 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:22.039 didn't hold my hand. They moved me from the North Shore thirteen to new 228 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:26.039 and I had a culture shark walking through that school. I was like, 229 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.559 well, these kids are weird. This is all They bring me back to 230 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:30.279 where I came from, right, Like, I don't want to be here. 231 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.879 But no one held my hand and said, oh honey, it's gonna 232 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:35.240 be great. I just had to go do what I had to do, 233 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.960 Like I had to go and make new friends, and no one held my 234 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:41.320 hand and no one cuddled me, and oh, Cindy, will let me 235 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:45.240 walk you through the school. My mom dropped me off, went's a guns 236 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.879 councilor I checked in and from that point she stayed with me out the door. 237 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:50.720 She went out the door. I went and had to figure it out, 238 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.360 find the way around school, all of it. But so probably two 239 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.200 things. There. Certainly are kids, and you probably were one of those 240 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.080 kids who are more resilient and who can do that. Well, you had 241 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:05.039 to learn that, well you learn it, and some kids aren't is able 242 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:09.159 to do that sometimes and the other piece of it, I think is we 243 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:13.159 were all more engaged with each other because think about you walk through places, 244 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.639 people's heads are glued to their phone or their device, right, so they're 245 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.799 not reaching out to another kid. They're busy with whatever they in school. 246 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:26.600 Well, that's a whole difference. When did it become normal that you could 247 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:31.279 bring your phone to school? Right? Like? When? However, and 248 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:33.360 my grandmother said to her, my grandmother has been passed away now for eight 249 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:35.840 years, said to my kids ten years ago, when we were shooting Tapa's 250 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:41.080 nails, you see what you're holding. That's going to be the downfall of 251 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:43.639 this country. She was right. Do you remember Nana saying that to you 252 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.120 holding that Apple iPhone, like this is going to be the device that's what's 253 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:50.000 going to take this country down. But again, she's been waiting for the 254 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.159 depression. She was waiting for the depression to come back to her. Right, 255 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:56.000 so we can we wasn't my choice to have a phone at school? 256 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:58.440 That was yours because you were so scared, well, because I wanted to 257 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.440 be able to read. But back back then, you didn't have the Internet 258 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:03.600 on your phone. You had a phone number. I called you, you 259 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:08.200 answered it. That's it, not looking at TikTok and bomba bah. So 260 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:11.039 you're right, people's heads are in phones. I mean, we see an 261 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.080 incredible number of pedestrian accidents because people are busy with their phone. We have 262 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:21.159 driving situations where people are just they're watching a movie on their phone while they're 263 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.799 trying to drive. That's crazy. Yeah, but people are doing even even 264 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.919 and we're all addicted to this, right. We all use our ways or 265 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.879 our maps or whatever going how to use mind. I do the old fashioned 266 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.399 way. I put the window down. Hey, we as blah blah blah. 267 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:38.200 And people are just distracted by that stuff all the time, so that 268 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:44.320 connectedness. Nobody talks to strangers. Now you get on a fresh subway or 269 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.759 something, and everybody is just looking at their phone. It's a different way. 270 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.480 It's a very different. But it changed really drastically, like only that 271 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:57.120 will change and really that's it. Yea within ten years, yea, within 272 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:00.960 ten years, I saw the change only to maybe. But you're right, 273 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:06.880 people lonely. That's why audio devices are great. So if you are lonely, 274 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:10.240 there's place like xpace right, which is on Twitter. But I don't 275 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:12.119 like go on my Twitter because all I see is bad things happening in schools, 276 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:15.240 kids beating each other all you wants to send this in family group chat, 277 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:19.119 and our algorithm to be really negative. Yeah, my algorithm is very 278 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.640 bad. But then I watch one and I want to watch another, And 279 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.200 then I watch another and I don't understand why these kids are beating each other 280 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:29.240 up at school and hitting teachers, And come, I'm not like this little 281 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.359 like little lady with a cane, like I get life, right, but 282 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:36.640 we as parents, like you don't put your hands on teachers, Like this 283 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:37.960 is all crazy. That is what I'm watching. But again, that's where 284 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.519 my algorithm is pulling me to because the more you watch that, the more 285 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:45.279 you get right. So I don't see nice kids doing nice things in school 286 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.759 right now. And there's lots of that. There are really lots of that. 287 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.440 We put in a lot of loneliness benches, a lot of them located 288 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.799 between like schools and senior housing, so people sit and talk to people. 289 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:02.400 You know, that's really worked and it sounds like a real throwback idea, 290 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:04.839 but it's a place for some I like to just sit down. We put 291 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:10.359 a bench in in Lowell between a senior housing in a school. So if 292 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:11.759 you live at the senior housing and it's a nice day, you can go 293 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.440 sit out there. The kids go over and sit on the bench. It's 294 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.519 been a real back to what you said, sort of that community feeling of 295 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.720 people knowing people. But if you think about this, and this is what 296 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.920 kids don't understand, and I say it all the time, sit down with 297 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.079 an elderly person, talk to them, hear their life story. You learn 298 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.839 more from that one conversation than you might learn in one year in school because 299 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:38.759 you're learning somebody else's journey, what they've been through. And if you're empathetic 300 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.839 and you're cure enough, that's why older people need to talk to kids all 301 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.519 But maybe I shouldn't be talking to my kids. You talk to my kids. 302 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:49.680 I talk to your kids. Mister builder, I'll take your son. 303 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:53.880 I'll give you my son, because then there's a different respect factor. But 304 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.960 I think we've lost so much it's crazy. And then you have so much 305 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:03.039 to worry about with all the crime that goes on. Just we are we 306 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:06.240 up and crime we're down in crime. Crime is unfortunately, crime is down 307 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:10.200 in Middlesex County, really down. Fortunately it's down, yeah, so down, 308 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:15.119 meaning what the hard crime or the robberies, or like the shootings, 309 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.240 or because the hot crime seems to be down but the stealing is up. 310 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:23.000 I will say the only thing that is probably it's down, but it's not 311 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:27.519 down as much as we would like. Our younger people with guns. And 312 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:33.799 we're fortunate because in part because we live five minutes from great hospitals, so 313 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.599 we have lots of kids who survive things that if we live somewhere else. 314 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:40.599 Oh, I thought we could to go to break right now? Is thinking 315 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:41.680 that my face? I'm Sinny Stumbley. He looks a tough of his nails. 316 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:45.720 On w BZ News Radio ten theory Be right Back, sponsored by Pillow 317 00:19:45.720 --> 00:20:02.079 Windows of Boston, Next Day Molding and Kennedy Carpet and Welcome back to Tums 318 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:06.079 Nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty. And I'm here with the lovely 319 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:10.319 Marion Ryan, the District Attorney Middlesex County. There you go, and Samantha 320 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:12.039 the one that when we leave here with Ncarote. No, I love in 321 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:15.519 Knockarot. I like that, not growth the price what we say to you 322 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:22.039 know, we've had an uptick in those situations with people shooting at each other, 323 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.440 shooting at members of different groups, and those things are very scary, 324 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.960 even when no one gets hurt, because they're scary in a neighborhood. We 325 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:33.960 have a bill that became part of that. We filed a bill that became 326 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:40.440 part of the gun bill for people shooting at houses because we've had an incredible 327 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:42.799 number of cases where people are the age group of those kids, I'd say 328 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:48.920 old the people shooting at house eighteen to twenty seven, twenty eight, you 329 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.039 know that ten years, so it's not fourteen, fifteen year old. Now 330 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.680 we have that isn't true in some places, we haven't really seen that. 331 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:02.160 It's older kids, and you know is shooting it houses, whether I'm doing 332 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:06.599 it to scare you or One of the things that's very frightening now is people 333 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:11.039 have guns that can shoot a lot more. They're automatic, whether they've got 334 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:15.079 one of the little switches or their ghost guns. So we would use to 335 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:18.200 go to a crime scene and we might see seven or eight casings on the 336 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:22.119 ground. It's not unusual now to go and there might be thirty five or 337 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:25.799 forty on the ground. So that's how many shots have been fired. And 338 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:30.400 when you do that, especially in city areas, you end up with houses 339 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:33.039 that get hit. So if you think about what it's like for the people 340 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:37.480 in that neighborhood or people who live in those houses. We've had some really 341 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.240 terrifying things. Things have gone through people's windows, gone in the walls of 342 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.559 their houses. That's what ends in neighborhood because if you have any resources at 343 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:49.119 all, you think I'm getting my family out of here. I'm certainly not 344 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:53.880 leaving my kids out to play when something like that might happen. So that's 345 00:21:55.039 --> 00:22:00.160 a big focus is really we take a very hard line on gun cases. 346 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:06.319 You know, you just can't be out there doing this random shooting. Do 347 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:10.680 we have enough cops to go around these areas? I would say short. 348 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:15.960 I would say the majority of cities and towns in Massachusetts right now would tell 349 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:19.960 you that they are low on enrollment. We do have great police departments across 350 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:23.960 our county, people who really partner with us when we make an effort to 351 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:29.559 say, you know, we're going to target this or that in certain communities, 352 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:32.559 and that is made an enormous difference. We've seen a lot of that 353 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.359 in our approach to drug overdoses and things. We've done a lot of partnerships 354 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.440 and push those numbers down pretty dramatically. I feel like in high school there 355 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.079 was like a waiting list for people to want to be a Newton cop. 356 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:48.359 Yeah there was, there was, But here you are like my friend's parents, 357 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:49.559 Those kids wanted to be cops, and they're like, I'd have to 358 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.680 be in a waiting list. I don't think i'd get in. And now 359 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:55.480 you know, we just turned over in Brookline that you don't have to live 360 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.240 in Brookline for a year, which is great, but I mean we've pushed 361 00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:02.119 that so hard. Can kids, young guys and girls afford to live in 362 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:06.319 Brookline for a year and pay rent so then they can apply to the police 363 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:10.359 force? Right? Maybe get in then? Oh no, I mean we 364 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:14.160 need we need police officers. That's that's for sure. Look as far as 365 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:18.160 I'm concerned, I stick by this and we you know, and I put 366 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:22.119 all these about Brookline police to come to Brookline. You'll see about four hundred 367 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:27.359 and fifty signs near where I live. You know, we're backing the Brookline 368 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:30.000 police. We're proud, you know, the Brookline Police. What's the sign 369 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:34.839 actually say, spend five thousand dollars on these signs? We support the Brookline 370 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:38.319 Police. Yes, because I feel like a lot of these police offices have 371 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:42.799 just been so disrespected the last four years plus, right that the morale is 372 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:47.200 not there, and you've got to lift their morale too. Look, I'm 373 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.319 not going to say there's always a bad doctor, a bad lawyer, a 374 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:53.880 bad build financial advisor, a bad builder, a bad HVAC guy, bad 375 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.200 plumber, a bad cop. You're not going to stop that. I mean, 376 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.440 but the majority are not bad as far as I'm concerned, they're not. 377 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:04.799 And you know they're not theater. Look, when we were young and 378 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:08.200 a cop torch just we deserved it. That's the truth. We deserved it. 379 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.880 Okay, we're being punks, we're being jerks out there. I feel 380 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:12.599 like as a kid though, everyone was like I want to be a cop, 381 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.400 I want to be a fighter fighter. That's like all you ever heard. 382 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:18.480 I wonder if that's anything like that anymore. No, they want to 383 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:21.920 be influences. What's wrong with you? They're going to be influences. That's 384 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:23.720 what they think. They come to like the school fair or whatever and say 385 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.640 this is the day, the day that you decide what you want to be. 386 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:27.599 You're going to bring an influencer to school that day and be like, 387 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.400 this is what I want to do. Yeah. Do they just love that 388 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.599 way they bring parents into talk? I think so do they. So our 389 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.000 big, our big problem is, as you said, is guns on the 390 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.440 streets. And then people that can legally have a gun, they go and 391 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.079 they get a license to have a gun, and they're mentally and physically healthy 392 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.839 to have a gun. And then you got people that are going to be 393 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:53.400 illegal and do illegal things in criminal activity. They're going to find guns. 394 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.480 They're going to find it no matter what. It's not hard to find a 395 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.839 gun. You also have a lot of people who may be got a license 396 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.039 to have a gun, and over time, you know, a mental health 397 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:07.519 issue has arisen. I mean we've seen lots of those. You know, 398 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.480 somebody who might have been perfectly fine when they got their license, may we 399 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:14.920 need to renew us. Ten years has gone by or something, and things 400 00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:17.920 have happened. And that's why, you know, some of the things that 401 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:22.400 we've passed to Massachusetts, like the red Flag law, really important because the 402 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:26.240 chief of police gives you a license. Now the chief of police is not 403 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.599 traveling around with you every day and maybe seeing what's going on with you. 404 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:33.200 That's why it's really so important, for instance, for families, when you 405 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:38.480 see somebody who's struggling to make that known so that they don't necessarily have their 406 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.839 gun. Well, what about renewing, Like you have to renew your driver's 407 00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:44.440 license, why don't you have to renew your gun license? Well, even 408 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.200 when you do, though, the authorities, I see a snapshot of you. 409 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:49.480 You know, it's like when you go to renew your driver's license, 410 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.559 they see you for the ten minutes you're in the registry office. They don't 411 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.119 know that you drive in a very crazy way when you're out on the road. 412 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:00.759 And that's why we've really been encouraging people, or especially when people get 413 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.799 older. You know, there are people who maybe they get older, they're 414 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:08.400 physical and mental health has declined. Maybe they shouldn't have their guns anymore. 415 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.240 You lost your glasses already. I just handed them to you. No, 416 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.000 I did. I gave up. When I first went through a metopause, 417 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.279 I heard it ray I'm a licensed carrier. I said, lock this up. 418 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.200 Lock it up for two years. I want nothing to do with it, 419 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:25.799 because my menopause would make me feel like, oh it cockle crazy. 420 00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:29.079 Right. So, but I think when you know that you're cucko crazy, 421 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.839 then you really not cuckoo crazy. But I just felt more comfortable here locked 422 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:37.079 this up because I could say I'm a little bit more emotional, and I 423 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:38.519 came out of it whatever, and then I went back to Cindy. But 424 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.599 you have to know when to lock something up and put it away and don't 425 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:47.680 carry it right and you got to no, you're But sometimes sick people don't 426 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:49.680 know. They don't know that. That's how you know the difference. I 427 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.480 once asked. I was interviewing a doctor and he said, I said, 428 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:56.640 do you think I'm crazy because I talked to myself? He goes, no, 429 00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:59.440 are you answering yourself back? I go no, he goes, then 430 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.160 you're normal. It is when you're start answering yourself back and it comes to 431 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:03.400 another voice and you're crazy. Cindy, You're like, okay, good to 432 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.599 know that. So gun, what about what else do we have? Like 433 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.680 in our area a lot of our crime and break ins that's been our area. 434 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:17.119 Well, we just we just made arrests in that very large, long 435 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:22.160 term investigation where people who were Indian and Southeast Asian had been targeted. That 436 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:29.119 was a nine months investigation. Yeah, we arrested four people down in Kinnecticut 437 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:33.839 and Rhode Island for that, and that was that was frightening because you know, 438 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.440 if you've ever had your house broken into, you know, it's terrible. 439 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.119 Somebody's been in your house, They've been touching your things, they took 440 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:42.319 your things. This was compounded by the fact that not only was that happening, 441 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:47.880 but people realized that, you know, not every house on the street 442 00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:52.519 was getting broken into. It was only primarily families that were Indian or Southeast 443 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.200 Asian. So then you wonder, like, who's targeting me? How do 444 00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.559 people figure out that it's me? And we're still looking at that part of 445 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.839 the investigation. But for instance, one of the things we found during the 446 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:11.160 arrest were a membershipless for temples, so clearly there was they did have information 447 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.799 about who belonged to this temple, could probably predict, you know, when 448 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.839 they wouldn't be home, when they'd be at a service, that sort of 449 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:25.440 thing. So that was truly frightening for people. What's coming on us next, 450 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.880 I would say the mental health issues continuing. I think we're also going 451 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.400 to see a lot more of the cyber kinds of crimes. You know, 452 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.640 the AI, the deep fakes AI is going to be. Look, I 453 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.519 can tell AI in literally three seconds to build a city stample home and because 454 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.920 there's so many homes on the internet, it comes up with a like this, 455 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.720 So how hard it is going to be? Put me my face or 456 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.319 on a naked body or vice versa, or me talk like I'm you. 457 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.440 You talk like I'm me and I'm not you and you're not me, and 458 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.359 you're saying things that would be me and vice versa. I mean, I 459 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.079 don't know about I'll say again, there's always something good, but then we 460 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.680 find the bad in it. That's great, but then you gotta find the 461 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.759 you know, you have to bring the bad into it. So there's things 462 00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:15.039 like we rely on surveillance, video and photos and things. Those can all 463 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.920 be altered by AI. Will come to Brookline. You're everybody's going to body. 464 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:23.640 We're protecting everybody there. It's crazy. But the other things that people 465 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:30.519 have to understand is that you've been doing this job for eleven years. How 466 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.559 many other have held that position for as long as you've told it? Many 467 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.160 or not, there's a few. So there's a reason why you hold a 468 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.880 position for eleven years. But how many women? How many women? That's 469 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:45.480 a good one. I like that one, Sammy. No other woman has 470 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.519 been da this long. I like that, Sammy. That's a fist pump. 471 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.079 I need a fifth pump right now. We're not going to throw you 472 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:57.640 out today. She just retrieved herself. Oh no, we're going to break. 473 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.519 I'm to be stupling. Listen to I Was Nails on WBZ News Radio 474 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.440 ten thirty. It will be right back, sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, 475 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:18.960 Boston Wood Smaller Insurance, World Auto Body and Tosca Drive Auto Body And 476 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.720 welcome back to Tapa's Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty. And I'm Sidney 477 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:27.000 Stumpo and I'm sitting here with the lovely maryon Ryan, the District Attorney of 478 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.680 Middlesex County. And she's tough. And who else, Samantha Smithy. That 479 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.119 was a great question. I gotta give you. I'm not gonna let anything 480 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.799 go that you did earlier. You just saved her. Now I can ask 481 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.440 for things now. Earlier. It wasn't earlier. I was getting disowned this 482 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.599 own. She's like, Mom, I make a strong living. Why are 483 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.920 you telling me that I should be spending that much money because you shouldn't because 484 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.799 you're safe for rain day? Did your parents tell you safe for rainy day? 485 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:53.880 Is that just stuck in our brains? We ever hear of that? 486 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:56.400 No, but it's the truth, right, Yeah, I'm not crazy? 487 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.119 Right, Well, I can't speak to that, but you're not. It's 488 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.480 crazy, but I'm not crazy about that, correct. I like that. 489 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.480 I'm crazy. I want to be those crazy just but not crazy about that. 490 00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.000 So talk to me about domestic violence. Talk to me. I saw 491 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.480 a lot of that going on. Who COVID a lot of it with our 492 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.359 police because they hang out of my job nights and all of a sudden, 493 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.960 there's four and then they're gone, right, and I know where they're going. 494 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.359 I can get the calls coming through what's going on domestic So we've created 495 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:27.319 a lot of partnerships that really are a reflection of we all know the response 496 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.799 we had thirty years ago. You know, the police go out, we 497 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.359 kind of separate people. We hope it gets better. That wasn't very effective. 498 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:41.240 What has been effective is helping people to really find a way out of 499 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.240 that life. So for instance, and having people that aren't police to be 500 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.079 supportive of them. So we created a program brought it to Middlesex about eleven 501 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:55.279 years ago called the Cut It Out Program, where we train hairdressers, folks 502 00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.880 who do personal services, people who do your nails, who do a facial, 503 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:04.160 even restaurant workers what the signs are of domestic violence, because there are 504 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.960 lots of injuries that are inflicted in domestic violence cases that don't happen in any 505 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.000 other case. So, for instance, there is no other crime where people 506 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.480 pull out a clump of hair, but that happens very often in a domestic 507 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.400 violence case. And I pull out a clump of hair in the back of 508 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.039 your head, it hurts unbelievably, but you can comb your hair down and 509 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:27.200 you can go to work, and no one else sees that you go to 510 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:31.359 the hair salon that your hairdresser sees those clumps. They see the little petiki, 511 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.599 the first blood vessels in your eye, they'll see the little marks on 512 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:40.799 your neck where somebody's grabbed you and choked you. So we've trained those providers 513 00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:45.599 for what the signs are, to look for, and then how to approach. 514 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.279 I mean, you can't say gee, you know being abused at home. 515 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:51.480 No one's going to say g I am, but how to kind of 516 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:54.720 ask questions that are not threatening or to And when we do it, we 517 00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:59.640 go with people from the local shelters and police officers. So it's not a 518 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.200 person and saying you know, I've heard there's a shelter you could go to. 519 00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:07.240 They're saying there's a shelter down on Washington Street. The woman's name is 520 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:13.000 Samantha, whatever it is, and they can give people those kinds of connections. 521 00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:17.880 So we've now trained several thousand people across Middlesex County to what to look 522 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.519 for, how to reach out for help, give me the delivery. So 523 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.920 the hairdresser sees a hole in a woman's head, see the hare has been 524 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:30.440 pulled out, Does she engage in a conversation? Does she call somewhere to 525 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.079 somebody come out and engage. No, that we train people to be able 526 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.960 to ask that question about starting out, you know, depending on what your 527 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.359 relationship obviously is. But you know, I notice you've lost some hair back 528 00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:43.119 here. Okay. You know, somebody might say, well, it's my 529 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.720 medication, it's whatever, And now they've come back twice and you've now seen 530 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:51.079 different big clumps, so you might be asking and maybe even just the question 531 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.160 of are you safe. And when we do that training, what people tell 532 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:58.319 us who've been doing that work for a long time, they've all seen it 533 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:00.759 and they didn't know what to do with it. We give them something they 534 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.680 can be doing about it those questions. Maybe you just say, you know, 535 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:07.440 I know, you say you're fine, but let me just tell you. 536 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.920 There's this woman, you know, Alice, who works down the street. 537 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.920 Here's her number. You might want to talk to her. What we 538 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.960 know and what the studies bear out is that people often have to hear that 539 00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.840 five or six times before they're ready to do something. It's not very likely 540 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.159 that someone's going to suddenly say, you're right, I'm in an abusive relationship. 541 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.679 I short of seen that, but maybe I worked. They think about 542 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.760 idiots, so I know they think about it, and then they feel safer 543 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:38.440 because now you've given them an actual person. They know you, and they 544 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:43.599 feel safer saying things you know. You know how it is with your hairdresser. 545 00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:45.199 You know your hairdresser forever. They know all kinds of stuff, and 546 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:51.039 what's really important is they're usually kind of separated from the rest of your life, 547 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.079 so you can say things there that aren't going to get back to your 548 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:58.719 work, that aren't going to get back to your family. People sort of 549 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.800 trust that, and over time, many of them end up coming forward and 550 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.840 saying, you know, somebody cared about me. They asked if I was 551 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:10.639 okay. They're living often in a very frightening reality and for somebody to just 552 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.239 reach in and care about them is really important. So that program's been really 553 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:20.679 successful. Let's make this clear to the audience. Domestic violence happens in poor, 554 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:22.760 middle class, and rich and ultra ultra rich. It lives in every 555 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.679 kind. Doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. That's why I like 556 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.440 my show. We can talk about whatever goes on between the foundation roof, 557 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:34.519 and Samuel'll tell you I'm a huge on domestic in conversations with this, We've 558 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:42.440 done so many conversations. But look, my experience is that sometimes we can 559 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.119 get the families, the women and the children out of the houses and put 560 00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.559 them in they have their own apartment, especially the brook Few house in Roxbury 561 00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:55.480 to bedroom. They get in there and sometimes they want to leave in five, 562 00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:01.079 six, ten, twelve nights right because they only remember the good or 563 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:06.679 their promise this is not going to happen again, and come home and things 564 00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.480 are going to be different. But leopards don't change their spots. They would 565 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:16.920 have to go through so much psychiatry to even change that. But again, 566 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.800 the woman is used to I've got my husband, I've got my roof over 567 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.360 my head, I'm not in some strange area, I'm not in a shelter, 568 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.440 and they start to justify that this is okay. I've seen it so 569 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.559 many times, and a lot of times obviously it's about children, you know, 570 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.800 you know, I don't want my children not to be with their father, 571 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.480 my children were. It's very hard for somebody, and as you said, 572 00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:44.960 it's in all kinds of communities. Sometimes in a in a more affluent 573 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.280 situation, it's very hard to lead that because you don't want to be abused, 574 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.239 but you also don't want your kids to have given up all of their 575 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:57.320 friends. They're not going to their same school in the house. Yes, 576 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.760 let's call it what it is. Right. We tolerate, but we tolerate 577 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:04.880 because sometimes, well, I'm living a nice life. Sometimes I've heard that, 578 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.760 but Cindy, I live a nice life. No, you're not living 579 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.039 a nice life. Well, and you know until it life is that you're 580 00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.079 when you go home. Everybody should go home and feel safe. Right you're 581 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.280 in the streets, you're hanging, you're doing whatever, you're working. I'm 582 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.599 on construction. I'll go home. I want to feel safe. Everybody should 583 00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.559 feel safe when they go home. Everybody should have a partner that makes them 584 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:25.840 feel safe. But I tell you some of the stuff I'm watching next. 585 00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:29.440 These women can throw down as good as the men can. Right now, 586 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:31.880 I wouldn't want to bang on some of these women either. They can throw 587 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:36.400 down. They really can. Well, that's another and that's another piece of 588 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.679 it. You know, people think about domestic islands in its very traditional way. 589 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:45.000 It is, you know, a traditional couple, usually a female who's 590 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.239 the victim. We're seeing a lot more. For instance, people don't think 591 00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:52.159 about this. We see couples that have been married fifty or sixty years and 592 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:59.239 there's an abusive situation going on. Maybe they're both on well, maybe one 593 00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.960 of them just reques. There's a lot of care people who maybe things were 594 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:05.800 sort of okay when they worked and they were away from each other a lot 595 00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:10.079 of the time. Now they're home together, you know that retire Yeah, 596 00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:14.679 that's not that's not what people expect, you know, we have. We 597 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:19.719 have victims in domestic violence cases who are eighty years old, and that it 598 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.719 poses a whole lot of different challenges. That person is not as portable or 599 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.719 able to go to a shelter. They got it, They need their medication, 600 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.320 they need to be in their home. There's just sort of a lot 601 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:35.679 of other issues. We also have a large number of adult children who, 602 00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.880 because of mental health issues or substance issues, are back living with their parents. 603 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:45.199 That situation phrase very often. Somebody doesn't want to take their medication, 604 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.920 they won't go get a job, the fight starts. You know, you've 605 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.840 got an eighty year old mother and a forty year old son. You know, 606 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:54.679 we see a lot of that, and people don't think about that as 607 00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:59.719 domestic violence, but it is. Yeah, any of you children put in 608 00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:05.400 the head and whoever thought you'd see boys sixteen, seventeen fifty putting their hands 609 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.599 on their father's I mean, this is I'm seeing this. Yeah, whether 610 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:13.480 it's Newton, brook Line, Revere not sure. So I'm seeing it, 611 00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.920 I'm hearing it. I'm seeing it. It's not normal. But what do 612 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.920 you do? You lock up these kids, You lock up the kids that 613 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.639 are hitting their parents. You lock up the husband that said his wife you 614 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.280 lock up, Well, I think we en have jails to go around right 615 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:30.199 now for everybody. But what about reopening mental hospitals Again, well, I 616 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:37.079 think we certainly right now. There's certainly even if there were situations where people 617 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.119 thought that was good, and clearly we people didn't have an opportunity to do 618 00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:44.039 a lot of things they were able to do safely in communities. But the 619 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:49.360 biggest problem right now is we don't have enough mental health workers. We just 620 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.840 can't fill them. We're going to get them because they're not coming out of 621 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.039 school, they don't want this job. They're hard jobs, they're not the 622 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:59.079 best paying jobs, and you can spend a lot of money to get the 623 00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.800 education to do that job. So we have to think of a different model 624 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:05.840 of how to provide that gear. And the insurance companies are terrible. Unless 625 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.079 you're very rich and you need help for your kids with drugs and any of 626 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:12.079 the unless you're going to write a check for eighty eighty five thousand a month, 627 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.320 you're not getting a kid help you there. Okay, Anyways, I'm 628 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.480 sending you stuff when you will send Tess Nails on WVZ News Radio ten thirty 629 00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:37.880 and'll be right back please and welcome back to Toughness Nails on WBZ News Radio 630 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.400 ten thirty. And I had a lovely guest here tonight, which is Marion 631 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.559 Ryan, the District Attorney in Middlesex County. Glad you take it. We've 632 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.800 had a great opportunity to talk about some of the work that we're doing, 633 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:53.159 some of the programs that we have, particularly proud of our Unsolved Case Unit. 634 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:59.199 So please go to our website, Middlesex da'soffice dot com and look at 635 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.639 both the programs that are out there that are available, some of the tips 636 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:07.519 about keeping people safe, and also please look at the work we're doing around 637 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.000 uncharged and unsolved cases. And I'm Sidney Stumpo, and I got to get 638 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.000 right behind her because I've been backing her if I don't know how many years 639 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.760 now. I respect Maria and I appreciate it. I think she's great at 640 00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:20.800 what she does. And I put my money where my mouth is. Everybody, 641 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.239 have a great safe weekend, and we'll see you next week. And 642 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:29.119 this is Sidney Stumpo Tough his Nails on ws Thank you Seemy, WBZ News 643 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:30.159 Radio ten thirty