WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:07.559 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:14.679 fourteenth fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions Katz R. 3 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:20.120 Tupsa at iHeartRadio Statia. Good Thursday afternoon here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 4 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:22.920 Welcome to I on the Ball. I'm Jay Gonzalez, your host for 5 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:27.559 the next couple of days because Steve is having a birthday and he's taking the 6 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.440 next couple of days off. He's on his way to Vegas as we speak. 7 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:35.799 So today Steve is too old to be going to Vegas for his birthday. 8 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:39.439 I hope he's listening to that. I mean, I'm too old to 9 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.759 be going to Vegas for my birthday. Well he is, and he's going 10 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:46.079 for the whole weekend too, so hopefully we get him back on Monday, 11 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:49.159 but he'll he won't be here today. But I've got my guest host. 12 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:55.159 You just heard Adam Gonzalez, known around town as his mother's son, who 13 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:58.679 happens to be my wife, so he's also my kid too. Adam is 14 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:03.799 a former sports information at Arizona. Covered Jed Fish's first year working for Jed 15 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:10.079 on doing media for football, also did a DA Barnes and women's basketball including 16 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:14.760 the Final four Final four year. Some other sports, uh worked with our 17 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:18.480 with our guests today, Jim Anderson from there Arizona men's golf team, Well 18 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:22.599 he was well, he was uh working there, So a lot of familiarity 19 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:26.760 with the Arizona sports now working in the College of Science at at the University 20 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.879 of Arizona. On the board today, we've got Ryan in his debut working 21 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.519 the board intern. Ryan's going to be here for us this summer, so, 22 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:38.079 uh, this is his first day on the board, so we're gonna 23 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:41.000 hope it goes well. Ryan, You ready for this? All right, 24 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:45.439 let's do it. You know, lots of stuff to talk about, a 25 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:49.319 lot of great topics to go on. A couple that had planned, but 26 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:53.040 one that I didn't plan that we will talk about now. With Frank Bogel 27 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:56.879 fired from the Phoenix Suns, just like that, he's gone after a year. 28 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:00.239 Yeah. In the NBA, especially, the coach is the easy escapegoat. 29 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:04.879 It's easy to get rid of a coach, right, So it doesn't 30 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:07.240 really surprise me, it doesn't surprise you. What do you think, Well, 31 00:02:07.520 --> 00:02:10.400 everybody's saying he was the wrong guy for this. He's not the fit. 32 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:16.719 Yeah, he's like a defensive guy. The Sons didn't put together a 33 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:23.439 team with good defense on its mind, right right, you know it did 34 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:25.240 just seem yeah, I mean it kind of seemed awkward all year long. 35 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.439 I have a lot of thoughts on the Suns. Uh, well, let's 36 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:35.159 hear the good ones. I mean it's not great right now. What I 37 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.639 like when they made that big trade to get Kevin Durant, they gave him 38 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:44.080 a lot. Obviously, I thought it was a good move considering, you 39 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.159 know, what they had going on at the time. But then when they 40 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.639 took and this has nothing to do with him as a player, when they 41 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:54.319 traded all their picks for Bradley Beal. Bradley Beal great player. If he's 42 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:58.840 your third best player, that's a good thing. Couldn't have been a worse 43 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.759 fit for this that specific roster, right, So it doesn't work. And 44 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:07.919 they had no facilitat and no point guard on the right, they didn't have 45 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:08.800 a guard at all. I mean they had guards, but not a point 46 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:13.360 guard. Every now and then, Devin Booker in the previous years, he'd 47 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.960 go point book he'd be a point guard for every now and then it work. 48 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:20.919 It'd be cool. To have Devin Booker be your point guard for the 49 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:24.000 entire season is like malpractice. Yeah, he's not. That's not what he 50 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:28.639 does, and to ask him to do that, it's crazy. So the 51 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:32.919 way I mean, Devin Booker and KD and Bradley Beal all do the same 52 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:39.199 thing exactly exactly, and to not have somebody any like you know who didn't 53 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:45.000 perfect for them is TJ McConnell. It doesn't even have to be an all 54 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:49.599 star point guard, Mike Conley, just somebody like that who can calm things 55 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:53.360 down for a second. Their and their offense just was stagnant every now and 56 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.800 then, just because he didn't have anything to run going back even front of 57 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:00.400 the do you do you think they should have fired Moni Williams? I mean, 58 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.439 if they were going to do all this other stuff. In hindsight, 59 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:08.280 yes, because Monnie Williams is an absolute trash back. Okay, so in 60 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:13.000 hindsight yes, okay, it thinks he I mean, MANI you know, 61 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:16.600 they got him to the finals and after that, after after after going up 62 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:27.160 too oh in the finals, just big time right right? But but kay, 63 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.480 let me ask you that would he been a better coach for this maybe 64 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:35.199 maybe, but still not the guy. All right? So who's the guy? 65 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:38.680 Now? That's that becomes a big question. There's you know, are 66 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:42.279 they going to recycle a guy or are they going to go get somebody you 67 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.279 know who's you know, an up and coming kind of guy. I mean, 68 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:47.720 you know, they're already talking about Mike Butenholzer. I don't know Mike, 69 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.439 Butenholder they said he's going to like lead the search. I guess he 70 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:56.639 worked for the Suns, right, But I mean it'd be kind of hard 71 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:00.319 to get an up and up and comer to say, hey, come fix 72 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:05.000 this. Here's Kat Booker and Bradley Beal. Here you go. That's hard. 73 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:11.120 Who among the coaches that a would be candidates or b that or maybe 74 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:13.720 have other jobs, you know, and one of the other one of the 75 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.240 other teams that would move up It would be considered to move up to the 76 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:20.439 Sons. Do they could handle this roster with KD, with Devin Booker, 77 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:26.519 with Bradley Beal and with the Clippers there you might you'll probably get fired. 78 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:30.759 Things are haven't gone well for the Clippers. But don't the Lakers want him? 79 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:39.199 Sure? Just I don't know. But I again, but you know, 80 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:43.399 when you're talking about a franchise like the Sons that has that has guys 81 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.720 like me, like these three guys Booker and and and and and Katy and 82 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.560 stuff, and you can't get a coach that can not just I don't think 83 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:54.800 it was just. I don't think it was Frank. I won't say that. 84 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.480 So it's not like they can't get like Frank is a good coach. 85 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.000 You want a title, right, he's a good coach. He did well, 86 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.120 the facers didn't fit for yeah, but you know, so, but 87 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:08.079 who do you get that can come and handle all of that? What ty 88 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:12.680 you mentioned? Tylo? You know, I don't know if you're not gonna 89 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:20.199 you're not gonna pull right. The thing with the NBA, it's it's there's 90 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:24.920 a lot of guys out there who they could hire just some random assistant coach. 91 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:29.079 And well, I mean the Lakers hired Darvin Ham, he was the 92 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.360 Bucks assistant coach. No one really had that right right now. He obviously 93 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:38.920 just got fires that didn't go well. Yeah yeah, Steve Kerr, no 94 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:43.360 way, he's still you think he's still good at uh? Yeah, you 95 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:46.480 think so? I mean things are kind of unraveling a little, I know, 96 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:50.560 but I don't think. Yeah, I mean, it's it's really I 97 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:54.519 mean, it was shocking. This is just this has happened so recently. 98 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:58.720 There aren't even names being thrown out yet on social media anything. At least 99 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:02.199 there weren't last night. Act Steve and those guys are they're tight. I 100 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:05.079 don't think. Yeah, all right, the Warriors are going to go through 101 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:08.920 some changes, right, I don't think is going to be one of them. 102 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:12.560 Yeah, I mean he would he would leave only if he was I 103 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.279 mean, he would be gone only if he left, not if they're not 104 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.480 going to ask him to leave or anything like that. Probably not. Yeah, 105 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:23.040 all right, anyways, well that's you know, again, some something 106 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.360 more to talk about here. During the summer, we got a lot of 107 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:28.800 stuff, uh to talk about. But that's uh, you know, that's 108 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:30.879 happening. It's happening right now. But I mean vocal just okay, what 109 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.920 woes? Just tweeted Budenholzers emerging as the front er to be the Suns next 110 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:40.480 already there you go, there you go? And woes is he he kind 111 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:46.399 of knows what somebody told him that exactly exactly. But have you have you 112 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.000 liked what the new owner has been has been doing and just his kind of 113 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:53.079 Okay, so that's approaching. Is that one of your things that yeah? 114 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:57.720 Like at first, yes, like things weren't going well. The Suns went 115 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.360 up to oh in the finals, and then they lost four stre and then 116 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.759 they got dog walked against the Sun against the Mavericks, and then they started 117 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:09.759 the next season really poorly. Things were going bad, like the window was 118 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:16.319 quickly closing. New owner comes in, makes a splash, got rid of 119 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:20.759 some guy, Michale Bridges, really good player, like elite role player, 120 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:24.639 especially for a winning team, got rid of him, Katie. I thought 121 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:30.720 it was a good move. A lot of people didn't like what he did 122 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:35.279 next by putting together like an NBA two K team, Like, okay, 123 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.440 here's a bunch of good players we have, you know, Booker, Beale, 124 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:43.320 Durant, what can go wrong? Well, that's not really how it 125 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.480 works. So he made what I think was a good move to keep the 126 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:52.840 window opening, go for a title, and follow that up just dug a 127 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:58.000 hole. Took two steps forward and took three steps back just because oh, 128 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.000 I can get Brad Beale and I don't have to give up need like players 129 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.759 of like that they would like to keep. All I gotta do is get 130 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.919 rid of these picks. Great, sure, yeah, prob missed to Brad 131 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:13.080 Bule costs like fifty sixty million dollars, So they can't sign anybody anybody else, 132 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.120 right, that's the issue. Brad bill is a great player, horrible 133 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:24.200 fit. Well, they it seems they from that to nothing, you know, 134 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.320 lead that they've just been going in the wrong direction and continue to go 135 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:33.080 in the wrong. DeAndre Ayton saga. Yeah, Like the thing was DeAndre 136 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.679 Ayton. He obviously has his own issues, but him and Monty didn't. 137 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:41.600 Yeah, Monty left and they're all gone right all right? Man? Well, 138 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:43.759 well, I'm sure we'll talk about this some more. We'll get some 139 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.639 of the Phoenix guys when we get a chance. But again, this happened 140 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.279 just a little over an hour ago. And uh, you know, uh, 141 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:54.759 you know, Frank Bogel out as the Son's coach. The quote the 142 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:01.200 I guess the money quote from from the Son's front office. We're here to 143 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.039 win a championship and last season was way below our expectations. We will continue 144 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:09.519 to evaluate our operation and make the necessary changes to reach our championship caliber caliber 145 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.720 goals. So you know, I mean they feel the windows still open, 146 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.279 but yeah, is it, Yes, it is, but things have to 147 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:24.080 change drastically though, right, Yeah, They've got good players and like the 148 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:28.759 Timberwolves really good. Yeah, the Nuggets are good. Yeah, the thunder 149 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.440 are really good. Right, Right, it's not just about what you're doing. 150 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:35.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you know that the Western Division is 151 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:35.720 good. They a bunch of good teams back there, and you know, 152 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:41.000 the Timberwolves, I mean they're the next you know, Denver Nuggets coming up 153 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.039 right that that are just worth different good they're a little different, but in 154 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.879 terms of yah, they're a team that's going to be here for a little 155 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:52.519 while, you know, with the guys that they have, any have you 156 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.759 watched them much? Yes, well I watched I watched them a bunch recently 157 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:01.080 because you've started as you know, we talked about this a couple of days 158 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.679 ago that he's like and the way I put it, he's the next next 159 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.279 Michael Jordan. Right, He's the next guy that they're talking about who's kind 160 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:13.039 of he just like he looks just he looks like he's got he's got that 161 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:18.559 fade away jumper. Then and and those kinds of things that that Yes, 162 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.360 and you know, even even Reggie Miller who said he hates when people compare, 163 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.519 you know, he said, why can't guys just be guys? You 164 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.759 know, we always have to have the next Lebron and the next Michael Jordan 165 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:35.559 and the next Kobe Bryant. He said, But but this one it fits 166 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:41.120 the mold better than most of the other ones have, right, And and 167 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.879 that caught my eye. So I've been paying attention to to to see and 168 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.720 you're you're right. I mean, he just he's shocking, Yes, and 169 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:54.240 he's taking like they talk about in the NBA, taking the step. You 170 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.879 can see him right now taking the step. Yeah, so we'll see. 171 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.399 But and if he's that guy, one, how long does he stay in 172 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.960 Minnesota? See that sucks. But two, if he let's say he does, 173 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.360 how long is Minnesota? I'm saying that sucks that you asked that question. 174 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.120 Hey, you know I'm not I'm not the one that keeps bringing up 175 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.360 the small market thing that happened last night with the with with the game last 176 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:26.960 I have I have nothing but bad nothing. But well we'll get to that 177 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:30.360 in a minute, because there's again a lot of stuff going on around the 178 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.679 NBA to talk about. You got playoffs, you got we've got t J 179 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.039 McConnell, and people talking about him. Why is that guy like I said 180 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.919 nothing but bad things to say about Rick, Carla, Yeah, exactly. 181 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:43.720 So anyways, all right, so we are going to have we're gonna be 182 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:48.480 talking some Arizona men's golf here in a couple of minutes. Jim Anderson is 183 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:52.039 going to join us. Head had golf coach guests to the show a bunch 184 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.679 of times, love having him on. They're going they're playing in the regionals 185 00:12:54.799 --> 00:13:01.120 or golfing in the regionals on Monday at the in what slat Fayette Purdue as 186 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.879 the host. They are the number two seed in that region, trying to 187 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.720 get one of the spots in the national Championship tournament, which would be the 188 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.919 following week. So we'll talk to Jim as they get ready for that, 189 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:16.360 and then in the in the in the four o'clock hour, we're gonna bring 190 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.320 in Greg Hanson and just talk about all things going on. You know, 191 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.679 there's a lot of there's still a lot of football and basketball stuff happening. 192 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:26.799 We talked yesterday about how you know those seasons have been over for a while 193 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:28.279 and we're still talking about them and we're gonna be talking about them through this 194 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:33.120 summer as they get players and whatnot. So Greg will join us and we'll 195 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:35.240 talk to some of that. I'm sure he's gonna want to talk about some 196 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.120 of you of a golf. We'll see what he has to say about NBA 197 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.759 and all the other stuff going on. So we'll we'll have those guys on. 198 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.720 But looking forward to getting Jim Anderson. So let's go and take our 199 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.799 break and over a little ahead, but we'll get Jim on and and break 200 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:52.639 down how they're doing. Didn't do so well in the pac TWEF tournament, 201 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.440 so we'll see how they're coming off of that and what they expect to see 202 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:00.720 this this week. And so stick around Jim Anderson. It's golf coming right 203 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.759 up. 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On the other mic Ryan as you running the 285 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:02.160 board with us and on the phone out. Jim Anderson had had men's golf 286 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:06.759 coach at the University of Arizona getting ready for the regionals up in UH West 287 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:11.119 Lafayette and Purdue on Monday. Jim, Welcome to the show. Hey, 288 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.440 Jay, Adam, how are you guys this afternoon. Thanks for having me 289 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.200 on. We're good. It's golf weather out there for US gym's. We're 290 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.519 actually even playing a little bit, so it's kind of nice. But you 291 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.279 guys, uh have been out there for a while. Things are you know, 292 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:23.359 you're you're you're now you know it's playoff time? I got do you 293 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:26.640 guys call them playoffs? I don't know if you know it's a it's postseason. 294 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:30.200 But you know, for golf, it's different, right, It's not 295 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.839 like a game it's you got you got the postseason, but you guys, 296 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.319 uh, your head, your head out to West Lafayette. First of all, 297 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.039 just tell us a little bit about how you're doing going in. I 298 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:44.440 saw that you know, it didn't go so well in the Pac twelft tournament. 299 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.079 But you know you are, you are where you are, So how 300 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.240 where are you right now? Yeah? No, we could be more excited 301 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:56.599 for the opportunity to compete at Purdue. And they have a great course, 302 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.440 therapy die course, the Candy course, and from all the research we've done, 303 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.160 it sets up like a championship set up. And we've got you know, 304 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:07.079 we've got a great team. We've we've enjoyed a lot of success this 305 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:12.200 this year and and semester specifically, which is which has created a nice buzz, 306 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:15.680 maybe a bit of expectation and all the good things that come with being 307 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:21.920 a great team. But we also know that that you know, we the 308 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:23.759 number we caret going in, with the two seed, the ranking that we 309 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:27.319 have eleventh in the country, all that stuff gets thrown out starting this time 310 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:30.000 of year, and and that's true of even you know, the last tournament 311 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.920 we played. Of course, we wish we could have done a few things 312 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:36.400 a little bit better at Pac Twelves, and we learned from it, We've 313 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:38.559 practiced on it, and I think that experience is going to help us be 314 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:42.319 better prepared for what we need to be ready for. Here come Monday, 315 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.319 Tuesday and Wednesday and Purdue, Hey, coach, good to talk to you. 316 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:51.720 My first question is, with golf being such an individual sport, what 317 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:56.279 makes a great team. I think there's a lot of things that that, 318 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.240 uh, you know, great teams have that even our team, that our 319 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:04.799 team has and it's it's not even it's not even because we coach it or 320 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:08.279 try to have it. Our our our guys are very very proud of the 321 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.799 fact they get to represent our university, our community, our golf community, 322 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:17.000 Arizona Golf. You know, there's there's a ton of great players who've played 323 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.200 here. Teams have had success. So you know, our chemistry, it's 324 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:26.319 built around guys who love the game of golf, who are competitive, who 325 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:30.000 are hard working, and they share similar interests. That way, so all 326 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.039 of a sudden, we spend you know, hours and hours of the day 327 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:38.079 together and friendships are forged and relationships continue to manifest and next thing you know, 328 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.319 you've got a bunch of guys who like being around each other and like 329 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.240 to compete, and you know, I don't know if we if we want 330 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.599 to say we coach a chip on their shoulder, but we're competitive. You 331 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.640 know, we want we want our team to to have, you know, 332 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:56.640 the attention that that great teams have, and so those are things that motivate 333 00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:59.240 us. Those are things that we try to do. And you know, 334 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:03.000 those are probably not much different than that of you know, our football team 335 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:06.160 that we've enjoyed watching our basketball teams and so many of the other sports here 336 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:07.599 at the u of A. And the coaches, the coach you know, 337 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:12.319 they're trying to put the right people around one another to share in a goal 338 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.160 and work hard and try to accomplish some some really cool things together. Well, 339 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:18.680 well, we've seen what Clancy Shields has been able to able to do 340 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.240 over there with men's tennis, which sort of a similar kind of thing, 341 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.079 right, you got an individual sport, but you put a team together and 342 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:29.640 you see the way those guys are during a you know, during a match 343 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:32.480 that they're you know, they're cheering, and they're up and down, and 344 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:36.279 there's a lot of a lot of excitement and noise and know you're not going 345 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:37.799 to do that on the golf course, but still you got your guys who 346 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:42.480 you need to have them backing each other and and and and pulling each other 347 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.720 along, right, I mean, that's that's how works. How do you 348 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.079 do that? You know, in the course of a golf tournament like this 349 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.359 where guys wann't have to be focused on how they're playing, but too they 350 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:55.319 care about the team. Yeah, I think you know you're not going to 351 00:23:55.400 --> 00:24:00.079 see it, just like you nailed it there Jay with you don't necessarily see 352 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.359 it or hear it the same way because you don't have your teammates watching you 353 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.599 on court three. You know, after you've wrapped up on court two, 354 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.079 and you know that that's going to happen. But you know, in a 355 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:11.920 t sheet, you know our five man, he's our first, four man, 356 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:15.319 three man, two man, and one in the back. So as 357 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.119 we finish, we get to support here and get excited about results that are 358 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:22.319 coming in the other thing, too, is despite the fact that it's an 359 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:26.119 individual game. You know, college golf is a team sport and and only 360 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.720 six players ultimately get to play at the NCAA Championship as an individual. There's 361 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:34.240 one hundred and fifty that are part of a team. So when you think 362 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:38.319 about it in that level, it's really important that you are tuned in and 363 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:42.599 with with your team and you are making decisions that are going to be you 364 00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:45.039 know, good ones for your team. And you know, the things that 365 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.440 we try to coach into our team every year, and our team this year 366 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:53.200 has done a great job is composure, patience, you know, just maintaining 367 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:56.880 a clear mind through competition. Because you know, you guys play golf. 368 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.880 I played golf. It can be a frustrating game. You can you know, 369 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.160 you can see the hero shot and sometimes we try the hero shot and 370 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:07.799 it works. But I think, you know, just being calculated and making 371 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.319 really composed decisions, especially this time of year, is is a sign of 372 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.960 really really good teams. Okay, so you're going into this uh this regional 373 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:19.480 in uh in uh. I'm sorry about that. In my computer kick, 374 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:23.079 you're going to this region and Purdue tell us a little bit about the field. 375 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:27.480 You know, you guys are the number two seed there. You obviously 376 00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.559 have an expectator. You know, if you're the number two seed, you're 377 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.200 somebody that ought to or can have has you know, a real good shot 378 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.240 to win this thing. So what what do you expect to see and what 379 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.119 do you hope to see? Well, one of the good things about coaching 380 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.759 golf is I don't have to necessarily scout the opponent very often. You know, 381 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.440 for us, it's not so much about who who gets a sign to 382 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:52.279 the regional as much as it is is making sure that six wildcats are ready 383 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:56.480 to take on the challenges whatever course we're playing present. So we've done a 384 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:59.480 lot of homework on the golf course. As I mentioned, is that Pete 385 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:03.200 died is on which is which is great. He's he's the kind of architect 386 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.160 who I don't think we have any PDE in Tucson. I could be missing 387 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.480 one. I'm pretty sure we don't. But you know he did TPC sawgraphs 388 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:17.319 for example, and and so many other great courses that really challenge great players. 389 00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:21.480 He was the architect. He was kind of renowned to to to not 390 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.720 care if a player can't shoot under par on his course. You know. 391 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:29.440 So our guys are composed and we're you know, talking about distances we want 392 00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:30.960 to try to fly it off the tee. We're talking about you know, 393 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.599 targets from those distances, and you know, in the practice round Sunday, 394 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.359 we're going to do our best to make sure we have yardages dialed in because 395 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.599 the ball is gonna fly a little bit differently, uh less elevation, probably 396 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.720 a little cooler temperatures, different grasps play played from and you know, getting 397 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.960 getting used to the green speeds and shipping on some firm greens and some really 398 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.160 really good Midwest golf. So you know, that's that's our focus. And 399 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.160 you know, if we take care of the business internally a lot of times 400 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.880 that yields the results we're looking for externally. Is your is your roster made 401 00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:03.640 up of guys who have similar games? Or do they all have is everybody 402 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.240 you know very different? Or how do you how do you assemble a roster 403 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.920 like that in terms of you knowing the courses that that you play in the 404 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:12.599 PAC twelve and well soon to be the Big twelve, but you know the 405 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.720 PAC twelve and stuff, and where are you're going to be, how you 406 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.400 know, how do you shape your team in terms of the type of player 407 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.599 that you're looking for and how you know what are the similarities and differences between 408 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:27.000 the different guys on your team? Good question. And you know, first 409 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.880 first it goes back to the recruiting process. And the first thing I might 410 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.599 say is recruiting can be hard. So you know, obviously everybody wants to 411 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.880 have Rory McElroy on their team. And if you could put the games of 412 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.240 five Rory McElroy's or Scottie Scheffler's or whomever you're talking about that we watch on 413 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.079 Sundays playing golf on TV, you know, that's what we would what we 414 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.400 would recruit. But you know the fact is different players make it make their 415 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:53.319 way onto our radar, different relationships are forged, and we have guys with 416 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:57.359 different types of games. And a really cool question you asked there, Jay, 417 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:03.680 because I don't I don't know if this is a strength or maybe lucky 418 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.680 or maybe it's not it's a weakness of us, But honestly, we have, 419 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.200 like on our lineup, we have, you know, there's a nice 420 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.559 mix of guys who play with control and precision and you know kind of kind 421 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:21.480 of take care of you know, I guess they're the game within themselves really 422 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.680 well, you know, like you would just expect them to be in twelve 423 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.240 or thirteen fairways, you would expect them to be on or around the green, 424 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.319 you know, fourteen fifteen times, and they're gonna chip it up real 425 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.000 tidy and wedget real close even though they can't reach part five. But we 426 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.759 also have two or three guys who absolutely bomb the ball and can kind of 427 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.079 overpower our golf course. So if we were assigned to a golf course where 428 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.240 we needed bombers, that would probably be a disadvantage because you know, the 429 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.920 two or three guys that are traveling that are a little more within themselves, 430 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:53.880 they they would probably you know, maybe struggle compared to the field of bombers. 431 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.559 But I think we're equipped and set up that, you know, either 432 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:02.400 type of course that we're presented with, we we've got strengths in both areas 433 00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:07.440 and and uh players who are capable on the other side. Kind of a 434 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.440 similar question to you know, playing different kind of golf golf courses. Does 435 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.079 playing desert golf all the time here in Tucson does that help when you go 436 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:21.559 to a place like Indiana for instance. Sure? Yeah, I mean the 437 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.519 one great thing about Tucson, I mean, there's there's so many great things, 438 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:29.960 but and we we are very fortunate to access so many of the courses 439 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.519 here in town. In fact, you know, I don't want to overstep, 440 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.240 but there's not a course in town that says, nope, can't come 441 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.680 out here. So so we can provide a ton of variety. There's there's 442 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.359 there's certainly desert courses. There's hilly courses, there's flat courses. We have 443 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.440 parkland style courses. So we're able to present different looks for our guys, 444 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.680 you know, weekly, So that that's a that's definitely a strength for us. 445 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.359 Desert golf can can be intimidating, and I think, you know, 446 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:57.359 for for prepping for a regional that's good because there's gonna be some hay at 447 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.960 the et Purdue and and there's going to be you know, some tight looking 448 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:03.920 fairways because they're growing up the rough, and you know, it's just a 449 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.440 championship setup. So you know, if you can kind of put yourself on 450 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:14.039 that difficult keyball the Gallery or Star Pass or so Wilo or any of the 451 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.039 great the desert courses. I shouldn't be using them all by name, but 452 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.079 so many great desert courses. If you can put yourself on a t shot 453 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.279 that was challenging for you, they remind yourself, oh, I've hit this 454 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.160 shot before when you're at Purdue. Sure there's there's definitely a benefit of doing 455 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.480 that, but you know a lot of times like those experiences are are forgotten 456 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.599 when you're in the moment of competition and you just have to rely on the 457 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.920 player that that got you there, and and and the confidence you've built with 458 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.359 all the reps you've logged, and you know know that you're you've earned the 459 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.599 right to be there and just be confident, be yourself and play free. 460 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.039 So in terms of your your approach with your guys, I'm looking at your 461 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.480 roster only a couple of seniors on the team, you know, unless one 462 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.279 of these guys goes off and wins the PGA Tour tournament, like the kid 463 00:30:55.319 --> 00:31:02.119 from I think was it from Alabama that did that earlier this year somebody something, 464 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.039 somebody played as an amateur and won a tournament. I can't remember. 465 00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.599 Oh yeah, you're speaking about Nick dunlast year on the AMEX. Uh. 466 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.960 So you expect to see have most of these guys back. So is this 467 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.599 sort of a you know, you're I mean, you've you've got a chance 468 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.039 to win this thing, but you're also looking at you know, we might 469 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.799 be even better next year. Well sure, you know, when you when 470 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.319 you start looking ahead, it's certainly uh, I don't want to say necessarily 471 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.359 exciting, but we're encouraged by the roster that we're going to get the return 472 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.519 Sam Summerhouser being our only senior and he graduated today, so I want to 473 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:40.440 shout out Sam. He's been a rock team for four years. But yeah, 474 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:44.119 we absolutely are excited about the roster we have returning. But you know, 475 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.119 I think in the moment now, i'm you know, I think we're 476 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:51.000 trying to we're trying to seize the opportunities in front of us, and we're 477 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:56.160 not really really trying to trying to be too focused on what might happen in 478 00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:57.880 the future. So you know, this this a lot of the guys who 479 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.880 are traveling to Regional this year. We're a part of a regional team that 480 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.960 was pretty good last year too, and we're going to rely on that experience 481 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.319 and continue improving and you know, just do our best to play our best 482 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:13.160 golf this time of year. And if that happens, I think I think 483 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.799 we'll be uniquely positioned to have, you know, the opportunity to come back 484 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.920 on the show and talk about some great things that are going on with Arizona 485 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.079 golf. You know what. I always love to do that. Well, 486 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.480 Jim, I appreciate the time. Get you guys ready and looking forward to 487 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.960 seeing how you guys do. Starting Monday. It's a three day tournament, 488 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.160 right, you got to finish in the top five to move on to the 489 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:36.160 to the national tournament. Right, that's exactly right. You have thirteen teams 490 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.160 for five spots to get to go to LaCosta starting Monday. So Monday, 491 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:43.160 Tuesday, Wednesday will be East coast time too, so you know that'll be 492 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:45.920 like anyone following on on online, you'll you know, you'll be able to 493 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.160 wake up and probably start seeing some scores right away. Yeah, Adams and 494 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.279 mind eyebrows went up because Adam played La Costa. You would have it might 495 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:57.599 have been about ten or very young, but I remember it. We we 496 00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.039 got we got the chance to play there several years years ago. He's an 497 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.319 old guy now, you know that, so it was quite a while back. 498 00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.119 All right. Well, Jim, good luck, good luck on Monday. 499 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.599 We'll keep an eye out for you and then we'll see hopefully you know 500 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:13.880 you're talking about going to Nationals. When you get back, I love it. 501 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.000 Thanks so much for having me, gentlemen, burn down, go cat. 502 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.920 Thanks coach, good luck. All right. That was Jim Anderson, 503 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.359 head coach of the men's golf team in Arizona. They're gonna be playing in 504 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:27.000 the regional in West Lafayette starting Monday, a three day regional' there's what I 505 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.440 had here. There's thirteen teams in it. You got to finish in the 506 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.799 top five to move on. So we'll see if they do that Arizona. 507 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:38.240 The women just missed it by two strokes when they finished in sixth place at 508 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:42.559 their regional earlier this week. So hopefully a little better, a little better 509 00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.720 luck for the man. All Right, we're going to be right back. 510 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.960 We've got a whole bunch of cool stuff to talk about, a lot of 511 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:52.599 it involving the NBA, some other things happening. There's a show, hey, 512 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.480 discussion I want to have with Adham over here today, so we'll have 513 00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:58.480 that. But stick around for that. We'll take your calls five to two 514 00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.160 zero four, one six. We'll be right back. If you're an Arizona 515 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.839 men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years now, 516 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.079 take a look back at the Ludolsen era in my new book, Lessons from 517 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.679 Loot. 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All Today by Few zero four ninety two zero seven four 540 00:35:51.440 --> 00:36:06.320 eight or Picture Rockspooling dot com ye breaking down all the exes at Alls. 541 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.920 It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salvinz. This is I on the Ball on Fox 542 00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:16.960 Sports fourteenth fifty. Welcome back to Balling on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 543 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:21.840 your host Ja Gonzalez. My buddy Steve is on the road to Vegas for 544 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.000 his birthday, and we'll see if he survives that he makes it back on 545 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:29.199 Monday, I got Ryan running the board and I got a great guest co 546 00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.679 host, Adam Gonzalez here on the on the show today, we just had 547 00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:36.519 a great conversation with Jim Anderson from Arizona Men's Golf. They'll be playing in 548 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.719 the regional on Monday. So I want to have this conversation Adam that on 549 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:44.000 this topic that I've been wanting to talk about all weeks since it since it 550 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.400 came out. Steve and I never got around to it. But you're the 551 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:50.679 perfect guy to have this conversation with because you know the NBA more than either 552 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:53.639 Steve or I put together. But also, you know, I feel like, 553 00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:58.159 you know, you can have a sense of this. But I think 554 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:06.199 it was Monday, Rivers in an interview was talking about NBA players and NFL 555 00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.239 players, and he said, I can take thirty guys from the NBA and 556 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:14.199 put them in the NFL right now, but you can't get thirty guys from 557 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.719 the NFL and put them in the NBA. That's been a long you know, 558 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.800 there's been that's been a conversation like that over time, including you know, 559 00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.360 with some guys out of Arizona. So first, just on that premise 560 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.960 that just that statement alone. Oh and if you want to, if you 561 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.679 want to talk about this, give us a call. Five to zero four 562 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:37.000 one six seventy four forty since that they get the number, right, I'm 563 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.320 on five to zero four one six seven four four zero. Give us a 564 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.800 call. We can talk about this or anything else. We're going to talk 565 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.679 about this for a few minutes. Your first, your first thoughts on that 566 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:51.840 statement. Okay, First, there's not thirty guys on either side. Okay, 567 00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.239 okay, let's start starting that. But there's one right answer. There 568 00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.920 are no NFL guys I could play in the NBA zero zero zero. There 569 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.360 are I think NBA guys that could play in the NFL, right, I 570 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.719 think it is zero NFL. Yeah, like you could. You could get 571 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:12.199 some guys to go play wide receiver, tight end. And now we're talking 572 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.840 if like you drop them like tomorrow, yeah, not like if you have 573 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.800 a year to prepare whatever. Yeah, he said right now, So let's 574 00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.679 let's let's let's discuss it in this way that the NBA season ends, Okay, 575 00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:28.280 it's over. Whatever, All these guys and even if you know the 576 00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.960 fine, if you're a team, a player that's in the finals, whatever 577 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.840 they're they're done in June, that they can go to an NFL camp this 578 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:43.280 season and play. There aren't many couple okay, there are zero zero NFL 579 00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.239 players going to go to the NBA. Okay, why do you say that? 580 00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:52.440 Well, one think about it. Trent Williams, Okay, he's a 581 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.880 giant in the NFL. He is like maybe the best football player in the 582 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.000 NFL. He's the size of Lebron James. Yeah, he's six seven, 583 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:06.559 six eight, big dude. He's an undersized power forward in the NBA. 584 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.360 Okay, I see where you're see where you're going. There's no seven footers 585 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:15.000 in the NFL, No No two. The the dribbling aspect, the shooting 586 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:22.599 aspect, Okay, think about this. Everybody everybody in the NBA can shoot. 587 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.920 The bad shooters in the NBA can shoot. You put a twenty five 588 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.840 j McConnell can shoot. He's me I was gonna see. I was gonna 589 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:37.039 say Jannis ko Okay, he probably shoots like twenty eight percent from three in 590 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:43.800 his career. If you put Janni's an empty gym, take fifty three pointers, 591 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.159 he's gonna make like forty eight of them. Yeah, that's not gonna 592 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:51.239 happen with NFL guy, It's just not They're just not that good. It's 593 00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.880 just not gonna happen if you had the dribbling aspect, the zero the skill, 594 00:39:55.639 --> 00:40:00.800 zero NFL player. Okay, and there are maybe a couple NBA players 595 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.639 who good. Yeah, and you know, and really when we're talking about 596 00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:08.199 that, like people said Lebron would make a great tight endure in the NFL, 597 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:13.400 you know other guys that size, right, Kevin Durant' is not gonna 598 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.719 go play in the NFL. Think about like Lebron James. He will be 599 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:21.039 the biggest person on the field, on the field every just like that every 600 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:22.360 time. Yeah, you're right, you're right, and he's not. He's 601 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.360 never the biggest person on the you know, the one, the one guy. 602 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:29.360 And there's a lot more. Well, you know, we go, 603 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:35.039 we go to the guys that were mentioned in this conversation, Tony Gonzalez, 604 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.000 Antonio Gate. That proves my point that they played college basketball and then they 605 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:44.920 were Hall of famers. That proves my point, Like you you it happens 606 00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.039 every now and then, Oh this guy never really ever played football. Well, 607 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:50.320 he just got drafted in the seventh round. He's gonna go play. 608 00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:55.199 How many players never played organized basketball and just got drafted to the NBA. 609 00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.480 But then there was Charlie Ward won the Heisman Trophy and he's played in the 610 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:06.920 NBA. He is like the one exception, one off. Yeah, they 611 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:10.440 played Division one college basketball, right, and like, uh, I can't 612 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.679 play in the NBA. I'm just going to go try out the NFL. 613 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:15.599 And two of the five, Well, Tony Gonzalz was a really good college 614 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:22.119 football player. He played college football and Antonio Gates did not. But regard 615 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.239 Tony Gonzalez did. He played for caln He was really good and I hated 616 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:30.639 him at the time. But anyways, so you know, there's always been 617 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.280 that discussion. And he actually got a cup of coffee in the in the 618 00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:37.800 in the NFL was Fendi Onobun who game there. He walked on the court 619 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.840 Rember. When he walked on, we said, why is that guy here 620 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.960 and not at Arizona Stadium. We said that about him the entire time he 621 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.719 was here, you know, and he and he got I think he actually 622 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.599 got drafted. I don't even think let's see what you got a free agent 623 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.719 contract. I think he actually got drafted, like in the seventh round by 624 00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:00.239 the Rams. That could be wrong, sixth rounds around by the Rams. 625 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:02.639 We've had him on the show. We've been trying to get him on the 626 00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:06.760 show coming up, and we're gonna we're still gonna try and do that. 627 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:08.679 So not this conversation has happened. We definitely want to get him on. 628 00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:14.800 But Fendy was I mean, that guy was a specimen on the court. 629 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:22.880 Another guy who you thought could do that might have even been Ronde Hollis Jefferson, 630 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:27.119 a little tooth then little tooth you think too thin and too wirey. 631 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:32.119 Yeah, but okay, think like there are forty math right, forty four 632 00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:37.159 players taken after Fendy on him on who didn't play a down of college football 633 00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:44.199 and he got trapped. Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. Yeah so yeah, 634 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.960 no, good, yeah, that's good. Look And I think people forget 635 00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:51.840 on the nineteen eighty eight team. Now again, these guys they were walking 636 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:53.480 on, you know, they they walked on and they helped the team. 637 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:57.679 But you know, Luke brought them on the team because he because they could 638 00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.440 help. Craig Bergman was a quarterback of Arizona in the late eighties. Dick 639 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:06.480 Tomy actually Larry Smith recruited him here, but then Dick Tomy ended up getting 640 00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:10.880 the job and Craig Craig was a reserve on that eighty eight Final fourteen and 641 00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:17.519 then a Tiz Jenkins was a recruit or not a recruit, a reserve in 642 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:21.119 the late nineties. I think he might have even been on the two thousand 643 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.159 and one. Yeah, he was the two thousand, yeah, yeah, 644 00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.840 so he might his senior year, I think with the two thousand and two 645 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.559 thousand and one. Yeah, so he he might have been on that, 646 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.079 on that team that also went to the Final four. So Artie's played and 647 00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.440 he played in some games. Well, Berkman played in some games too, 648 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.079 but Bergman would just run out there, go stand at the line, had 649 00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:45.880 thrown the ball. You ever play You ever played pick up basketball with football 650 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.760 players? No? Oh, it's yeah, it's the worst. Well, 651 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.960 speaking of a guy, And we're gonna have this conversation again tomorrow because I 652 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:57.880 tried to get him today to have this conversation today. But tomorrow we're gonna 653 00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.400 have Calvani Fahn, who did that about his as well. As anybody at 654 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:05.760 Arizona. He came here as a basketball player, a highly recruited basketball player 655 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.400 by lud Olson, and ended up being one of the best players on that 656 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.599 ninety eight twelve and one ninety eight football team as a fullback. And that 657 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.559 gets to one of the points that somebody made talking about this today. It 658 00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:21.920 was it was that guy he's on Dan Patrick's show, he Texas play, 659 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:28.039 he subs in for him, played football at Princeton. I think big dude. 660 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:32.239 Anyways, he said, he said that you would not be able to 661 00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.360 drop an NBA player onto an NFL roster in a years and now if you 662 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.960 gave him a couple of years to develop, that yes they could. But 663 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:44.400 and he said one of the big things said, those guys wouldn't They wouldn't 664 00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:47.239 be able to take the hitting. They wouldn't last sure four weeks, sure 665 00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:53.719 into a season before they're killed. And and so there's there's that. Calviny 666 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:58.840 fun was one of the hardest hitters as a fullback that ever came through Arizona 667 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.119 start and started here as a basketball player. And I'll ask him, you 668 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:06.360 know, when you first started getting hit, what was that like for you? 669 00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.039 After you hadn't been getting hit for a while. Yeah. No, 670 00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:15.679 I again, when we would go to the rec center, I worked with 671 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:16.719 the football team, so I knew a lot of those guys. Yeah, 672 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:22.159 I had a lot of friends on those like kind of mid to late twenty 673 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:29.400 tens teams. Yep. Not not happy when it was a football day at 674 00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:34.480 the Wreck. I mean, I Danny, who was a guest yesterday, 675 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:38.119 guys tooth chipped wow by one of those guys. Yeah, like they're just 676 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:45.119 again because they're so like physical, right and you just come but they don't 677 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.960 but they don't have the other skills that they don't to that point, you 678 00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:52.679 said you can't drop them in to an NFL team because they'll get smoked. 679 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:57.199 NFL player are gonna fall out in three minutes, right right? Yeah, 680 00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.519 yeah, So it's a it's an interesting and fun conversation. But you know, 681 00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.840 I mean, because you see some guys who you know are just athletes, 682 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:07.400 right, yes, incredible athletes. They can pick up a golf club 683 00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:13.000 and golf some can. But here ones okay, here here's the thing that 684 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.719 extraordinary athletes can. You know, here's the thing. So you say, 685 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:20.039 who can you do? Can NFL go to NBA and none of them can 686 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:25.000 play baseball. Okay, none of them can play baseball stick holding the ball, 687 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.840 holding back something different. Russell Wilson can. Sure, very few of 688 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:35.960 them, Like that's what I'm saying. It's it's I. I hope he's 689 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.880 not listening. I hope they're not listening. But Lamont and and Ricky Hunley 690 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:45.119 I saw them. There was a U of a I don't know if you 691 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.480 have a sponsor, was sort of a U of a golf tournament of some 692 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:52.119 sort, and I remember if it was a a n actual tournament, but 693 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:53.559 it was an event where there are a bunch of you of A football players 694 00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:58.639 were at this event to golf. Don Pooley was there and he was giving 695 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.159 lessons to these guys, and Ricky and Lamont picked up a golf club. 696 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:06.679 I think it might have been for the first time, and trying to watch 697 00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.800 and watching those guys swing golf clubs was Yeah, it was actually pretty funny. 698 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.960 Yeah. They both play now. In fact, I ran both of 699 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.039 them were at this tournament that I played in this last weekend down in two 700 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:20.360 Bacs. So they both play play enough to go put a bunch of money 701 00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:22.119 into an event and play, so they obviously, you know, the game 702 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.079 grew on them. But these guys, you know, they were, you 703 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:30.039 know, playing at Arizona and they could not They could not swing. I 704 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:37.840 mean a professional athletes. Buddy, Frankie, you played golf with him that 705 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.079 one time, right, we played it. We played in a scramble. 706 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:46.119 He can't swing the club. He can do everything else, he can't swing 707 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:51.599 club. It's very funny. Bo Jackson could swing a golf club. I 708 00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.880 played golf with him once. I did play golf with Bo Jackson one time. 709 00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:59.559 Really yeah. When he was he was like a consultant with the White 710 00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:02.480 Sox and was when I was with the with the t EP and the the 711 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:06.760 Diamondbacks, White Sox spring training golf tournament and he was in my group. 712 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.280 He showed up with one golf club. He had a seven iron and that's 713 00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:13.559 all he hit. He just hit a seven I all day, hit it 714 00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.079 a mile. He hit it as far as he needed to hit it. 715 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.880 Randy Johnson, I played golf with Randy Johnson. Guy could hit the battle 716 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:22.719 mile. He was really good. Baseball players. Baseball players can't because they've 717 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:28.119 I said, they've most NBA, NFL players. Yeah, Michael Jordan's I 718 00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:32.039 think he's a pretty good player. Then there's Barkley swings a little bit. 719 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.239 It has gotten a little better, but in the end, zero NFL players 720 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:42.480 can play in the NBA. A few I think King King go the other 721 00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.880 throw him in there at the slot receiver, throw them at the edge receiver. 722 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:49.199 Give me some of the guys who you think would be good NBA guys 723 00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:53.079 who would be good uh NFL players? Tyres MAXI is a slot receiver. 724 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.039 Yeah, but even Tyres Max he's like what six three six four, so 725 00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:04.800 he'd be a big receiver so fast? Yeah? Who else? Somebody? 726 00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.000 We would you know that, we would all know that. I mean, 727 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:19.320 let me think like Russell Westbrook. Yeah yeah, any good running backs like 728 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.199 a Drew Holiday, Yeah, could be a good running back. But I 729 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.320 think there's so tall. There's still Drew Holidays like six four six five. 730 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:30.079 Ye think think about Derrick Henry. How big Derek Henry looks at running But 731 00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.880 that's an average two guard. Yeah yeah, yeah, Now Derek Henry is 732 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:38.719 probably a little thicker. Yeah yeah, Okay, all right, good good 733 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:43.119 conversation. That's fun. That that yeah, that's uh, it's an interesting 734 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.719 concept, interesting thought and there's people are still talking about it, so and 735 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.039 again, we'll talk about it again tomorrow when we get Calvin. The worst 736 00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:52.519 part about that conversation was that they brought it up in May instead of like 737 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:55.840 July. This is a July conversation. There's a lot going on. Well, 738 00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.360 I know, but you know you had Austin Rivers's saying off nervous. 739 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.679 Should have brought it up in July. There's nothing, there's nothing else to 740 00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:08.559 talk about. Very fun, good conversation. So all right, again we've 741 00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:13.800 bet well, we we're running out of time for this segment, but we're 742 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:15.599 not breaking news. There's other stuff besides the Frank Vogel. Ryan, you're 743 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.920 ready for breaking news? Man? All right, man, he's gonna, 744 00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.199 we're gonna, we're gonna run through some stuff. There's more things to talk 745 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:27.000 about. I want to have this conversation that was had this morning about show. 746 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.599 Hey uh Otani, a guy that Adam and I are following, closing 747 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:36.239 now that he's with the Dodgers. But it was really it's really good conversation. 748 00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:42.800 I'll save it for that about well, there's all these comparisons between him 749 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.039 and Babe Ruth, right, because you know, Babe Ruth was a pitcher 750 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.800 and then he became a great hitter. Uh, show Hayes. You know 751 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.719 he's been pitching. He hurt his arm, so he's not gonna pitch it 752 00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:57.239 all this year. He's a d h He's he's lighting it up. You 753 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.280 know, some questions about his future as far as that goes. So we'll 754 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.360 talk about that. All right, we're gonna take our break here in just 755 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:07.800 a second. Again, Greg Hanson's going to join us. We'll let him 756 00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:09.239 in on the show. Hey, conversation. We'll probably have it at the 757 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:14.280 tail end of breaking news, get his thoughts, uh, and talk will 758 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.400 probably end up talking a little bit about his Yankees. Well. It also 759 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:20.559 Greg pipe in on some of the stuff that's going on with you have a 760 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.840 football and basketball. You know, they're building the rosters again. It's all 761 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.880 all going on. It's going to go on for the rest of the summer. 762 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:30.599 So we'll have all that stuff and then anything else happening. A lot 763 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.559 of baseball stuff. I mean, I'm the base I'm really really having fun 764 00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.320 with baseball right now. It's been well, the Dodgers are good, so 765 00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.679 that helps, but it's been it's been great to watch and there's a lot 766 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:42.440 of cool stuff. All right, let's go and take our break. Let's 767 00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.679 go right now, and we'll come back. We'll take your calls to five 768 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.039 two zero four one six seventy four forty. Ryan will be coming back with 769 00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:52.159 breaking news and then we'll get into a show, hey, conversation, so 770 00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:52.760 stick around.