WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:07.599 This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez sound Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:14.720 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions katz R 3 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:19.760 TUCSA at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye 4 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:23.320 on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, he's 5 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:27.920 Jagan's awas. We got our guy Ryan in with us today. Well, 6 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:31.640 and of course Adam Adam is running the show. Adams here, don't ke 7 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:35.320 forget your short timer though I don't know he's got one more day, short 8 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:37.560 time. Don't screw it up, Adam. I won't. I won't. 9 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:40.560 It doesn't matter because if you do screw it up, what are you gonna 10 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.840 do? Right? What? Exactly? All right? Welcome everybody. It's 11 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.640 Tuesday. I think it's Tuesday. A lot of stuff going on again as 12 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:51.920 always is always, which is good for us. We have a pretty good 13 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.439 show today. Yesterday the show was pretty good with the Snoop Dogg. I 14 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:59.640 did get all the podcasts up, didn't put you know, all the commentary 15 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:02.439 on him. But if you want to go listen to the past shows, 16 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:07.040 then you missed Wednesday Thursday, Friday or yesterday. There they are all now 17 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.760 up on our podcast page. Oh the just the commons. Just you know 18 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:12.480 how I put like a summary of the show. I didn't do that. 19 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.239 Okay, that was just what is it? Just a guess or the whole 20 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.959 thing? The whole thing? Each show is up, So the whole show, 21 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:21.879 okay? Cool? You know, for if you want to listen to 22 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:23.400 our guests, you know, you can go to a quarter after each hour 23 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.120 and listen to the guests. You don't need to listen to us. Yeah, 24 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:30.959 okay, okay, Uh the basketball stoff going out with you a basketball 25 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:33.599 All of a sudden, I'll be in breaking news and we can hold for 26 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:36.319 that, right sure? Who do we have today? Jay? Well? 27 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.680 We uh? This weekend the nation, the Southerner's on a chapter of the 28 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:44.120 National Football Foundation, is holding their annual golf tournament. It's out at Alkenquistador, 29 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:48.519 which is the Alkhinkeisador golf course that's up in Oral Valley off of locking 30 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:51.799 you out a drive, not over by the hotel anyways, it's a it's 31 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.239 a they're one of the big events of the year, big fundraiser for them. 32 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:57.879 Nimur hasse uh he's the principal at Mike Come Mountain, long time a 33 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.480 high school football coach here in town. He's the chair of the golf tournament 34 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:07.319 for the Southern Arizona Chapter, and so he's gonna come in and talk a 35 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:08.800 little bit about the tournament. I think he got a couple of forces left 36 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:13.400 to sell, so maybe he can talk you into doing that when he comes 37 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:17.120 on the show here in about three twenty and then in the second hour. 38 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:21.520 We've been trying to get him, but he's been a busy dude since ena 39 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:25.759 football season, recruiting and all that kind of stuff. But Justin Spears from 40 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:30.560 the Arizon Daily Stars college football beat writer, and you have a football beat 41 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:32.560 writer for the Star, will pick his brain about all the things that are 42 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:38.400 still going on. And the transfer portal seems to never end. Even though 43 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.840 the portal is now closed, you can't get in it anymore, there's still 44 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:45.599 a lot of activity there as well as there is in basketball. But we'll 45 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:49.560 get Justin's impressions at spring ball, what's going on in the transfer portal, 46 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.000 impressions of Brent Brandon, et cetera, etc. So just I'll join us 47 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.840 at about four twenty. Okay, good to get some updates on what over's 48 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.639 going on. Obviously, he is his own show in the morning, right 49 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:04.280 he does, Yeah, he's he's on with Ali Farhan on that other station 50 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.800 in ESPN fourteen ninety They do the morning thing. So that's why we don't 51 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:09.960 mind talking to him. We're talking about their show. It's a race to 52 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:14.039 see if you can get Snoop Dogg on the show first. But I'm figuring 53 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.879 we're kind of the underdogs in that, and that all least the chair of 54 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:20.800 the Arizona Bowl and probably had something to do with getting Snoop Dogg here. 55 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.120 So I don't know if if it's a huge upset if we get Snoop Dogg 56 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:27.039 on our show before he does ten to one. Don't put any money out 57 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.520 there, don't put any money on us. Yeah, well, we're like 58 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:35.599 minus a thousand on that or something. I mean plus a thousand. You 59 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.919 call that dead money to us, Yes, exactly, Okay, Okay, 60 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.919 I want us going on. It's going on. Tennis. Men's tennis goes 61 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.599 next to right the round they're at Columbia. I think on Friday. I 62 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:51.680 don't remember we said Friday or Saturday. I'm gonna check on women's golf right 63 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:57.000 now because they they're in the Las Vegas Regional. I think they're playing as 64 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.199 we speak, So we'll see if we can find out what's going on there. 65 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:04.919 Baseball as a game tonight against a su A nonconference game. Yeah up 66 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:08.520 at A. Did you see there was a little back and forth there. 67 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:11.280 No, I guess one of the players u A players. I hope I 68 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:14.120 get this read ken. Don't know who said that. We okay, we 69 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:15.439 hope to play them and hope to meet them by a thousand or one hundred. 70 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:20.120 I don't get so the uh so, the uh the issue baseball coach, 71 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:26.560 Uh, he's the pro former issue guy, former an MLB guy, 72 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.240 says, okay, bring it on, let's see what happens. Yeah, 73 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:32.759 that's funny thing about it, didn't they you They get snookered by good uh 74 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.800 Grand Canyon second time last week? Yeah, the twenty four whatever it was, 75 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.120 that whatever, and then they come back and sweep. The only thing 76 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.680 that gives them in trouble is great. You hope you don't run into him 77 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.040 in a super regional or something like that, right, because they've done it 78 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:48.319 twice to them now. Yeah, Yeah, but they can handle their pack, 79 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:53.040 the pack twelve. Yeah, yeah, yep. Yeah, women's golf 80 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:57.519 is going on as we speak. They they're done for the day. Uh 81 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:01.199 they Arizona has dropped to seventh place. There are three but they're only three 82 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:03.959 strokes out. There were two strokes out of fifth place yesterday. There are 83 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:08.240 three strokes out of fifth place after the day. But they got to get 84 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:11.399 got to bounce up into the five spot to get into the national tournament. 85 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.639 It's still Arkansas, Purdue, you c LA, Florida State, and Baylor. 86 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:17.839 Baylor's at my at plus two. Oklahoma is a plus three, Arizona's 87 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.519 a plus five. So Arizona's gotta gotta move it up a little bit. 88 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:25.360 They were only one under part to day. They gotta they gotta scratch and 89 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.439 clown get there, get their stuff up if they want to make the national 90 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:32.000 tournament. Yeah, okay, a lot of stuff going to Actually, boxing 91 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:34.199 wise, did you see the fight? You probably don't see the fight? 92 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:40.040 Nah, a good fight with uh with Canelo? But did not? Uh? 93 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.839 Was that the one where the guy tested positive? Different? That was 94 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.959 that was a week before Ryan Garcia. Yeah, now he wants his second 95 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.759 test to be retested or whatever. It is. Uh, then we'll see 96 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:55.000 what happens with that he had he had lost a lot before. He didn't 97 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.279 make weight, right, didn't make weight, couldn't win the title. Uh, 98 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.040 and then he beats the guy surprisingly Yeah, and then now this so 99 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.920 it's very weird, but it's very boxing. I get my I get my 100 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:13.120 drug up. Boxers confused, Well, it's understandable that happens. It happens. 101 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:17.079 Well, it happened with our guy, Oscar Oscar. Well, dere's 102 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.759 a a few years ago and he's coming back to now, so we'll see 103 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:24.680 what happens with him. We also want to try to get the UFC guy. 104 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:29.160 He's from u Sawa or some down down south, maybe not in Rio 105 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:31.639 Rico or somewhere. He got beat maybe three weeks ago. Uh. And 106 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:36.560 what's our first question? What the hell are you doing? Hell? Why 107 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:42.279 are you doing this? Yeah? Yeah, well yeah, why why would 108 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:45.680 you want to? But okay, go ahead, go ahead and get punched 109 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:48.600 in the face for a profession. Yeah, just tough life. Tough life. 110 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.160 They think they think you're doing roofs at one hundred and ten is tough. 111 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.720 You know. I know if I told you that I was in Vegas 112 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.839 once and the place house saying wait, wait, wait what hell a while 113 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.959 back and there I was in it, and I was at a hotel where 114 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:12.279 staying in place where there were apparently a bunch of UFC there's a UFC event 115 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:14.639 that weekend, and a bunch of them were happened to just be staying where 116 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.360 I was staying. It was a hill grand vacation, so it wasn't like, 117 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:19.399 you know, one of the big casino hotels, so it's kind of 118 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:24.560 a smaller place. And these guys are just you know, around the lobby 119 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:28.360 all the time. And I looked at these guys and I thought, why 120 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:32.240 would you step in into a ring with any one of these guys where where 121 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.839 where their intent is to kill you? Well, why would you do that? 122 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.399 I just it just made no sense to me, and it still doesn't. 123 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:46.759 But I mean, they they're scary. Yeah, yeah, they're scary 124 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.319 looking dudes, even without their mushroom ears what do you call it, cauliflowers. 125 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:53.279 Yeah, And they looked like they would punch you in the face if 126 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:56.399 you just look at them cross eight or something. Yeah, Well they probably 127 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:59.600 do. How do you become a fighter like that? It's gotta be there's 128 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:01.600 got to be something a little wrong. They're not like a choir. Boys. 129 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:05.920 Come on, I mean even boxers, okay, boxers. You know 130 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:09.439 you thought you gotta be a little different to be a boxer. But the 131 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.560 the UFC guys are just I don't know, man, I'm too pretty to 132 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:20.279 be a box right. Moisturized, you know, I keep that, keep 133 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:26.240 it to myself. I'm a little creeped out. Now, I'll give you 134 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:30.720 my moisturize. You might look, I'd rather know. I love I love 135 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:37.519 my you know, my natural bronze. Look, that's bronze. Was a 136 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:43.879 little chocolate. Okay, like chocolate. So n b A Hey, your 137 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.080 your nuggets are gone. Man. They're in trouble game the Gonzales curse. 138 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.799 They're in big trouble, you know. I mean it was two at home. 139 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:54.039 Yeah, you can't do that there. I mean, Jamal's not playing 140 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:58.039 well. Minnesotan't even have Gobert last night. Yeah, well, the thing 141 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:03.480 was Minnesota's playing really well. You said Denver's not playing well or Jamal it's 142 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:09.519 because the other team's playing out of their mind and what ja the court? 143 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.399 So he's gonna get he's gonna get suspended. Yeah, but he's the game, 144 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.200 right, Virginia get suspended for a game for doing that, probably you've 145 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.559 got to set a precedent. So yeah, yeah, I think he will 146 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.519 be. But yeah, they're in trouble. The series goes back to Minnesota 147 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:26.399 now, and I think the smart bet last night would have been to pick 148 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.440 Denver, not just for go Bear, but because they needed to win last 149 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.960 right, they needed to win and they didn't even come close. Yeah. 150 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.799 In fact, what's his name? There was another guy? That guy, 151 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.159 Aaron Gordon. Gordon hasn't looked good in this whole series. Well, he's 152 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:45.039 trying to do the impossible. Stop Edwards, right, he was the he 153 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:50.039 was the lebron stopper. Right now he can't stop Edwards. Tough task. 154 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:52.039 I know, that's very tell you what he's you know, you're hearing more 155 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:58.840 and more and people are always comparing somebody to Michael Jordan, right, but 156 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.799 you're there's start, you know, there's people starting to be like really serious 157 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.039 about it, not just okay, here's a you know, he's another guy. 158 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.360 I like, you don't even Reggie Miller. He kind of he kind 159 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.279 of qualified and said, you know, we're always we're always trying to find 160 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:16.000 the next MJ YadA, he said, but this guy just with a lot 161 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:20.919 of the types of things that he does that he'd be particularly pointing out to 162 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.919 the fadeaway jumper is that. He said, that's a Michael Jordan move. 163 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.720 And and I'm like I and so I've been paying attention to, you know, 164 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:33.159 highlights that you're you're coming across social media and saying you see, you 165 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:35.519 can see it. Now? Is he as good as him? Yet? 166 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:37.759 No? Is he going to be as good as him? We don't know, 167 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:43.480 but there are you can see when people say that their similarity is already 168 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:46.039 And he's the best athlete you could argue in the NBA. He's got that 169 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.919 kind of spunk, the attitude. Did you see the movie that he made 170 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:54.399 with I think he did with Adam Sandler. Yeah, it was pretty good 171 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.720 movie. It was campy, you know, camp be low budget, but 172 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:00.639 he was pretty cute good Ye, it was good art in his role. 173 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:01.960 He was like nineteen twenty years old at the time. Yeah, yeah, 174 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.919 and probably really not really known at the time. Do you know what college 175 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.360 you went to? Yeah, Georgia, Georgia and they sucked, and they 176 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:16.399 sucked. They always sucked because they had the coach tell me he's doing the 177 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.519 CBS Tom Crean, that tells you how bad he was, that it's never 178 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:24.799 been good in basketball, right exactly. So here's this guy from Georgia and 179 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:26.639 it says, how could he not be any good with this guy on your 180 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:31.440 roster? Yeah so wow, wow, okay, but yeah, you know, 181 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.360 but again for you know, for who admittedly a non NBA guy, 182 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.559 to be paying attention to this guy, I think it says, you know 183 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:43.399 that he's actually there's something there that's catching. I agree, he's got he's 184 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.519 got the marketability to be the face of the league. That is only what 185 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:52.240 twenty two. Yeah, So when they talk about age j especially with Boswell 186 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.799 and all the other age, when you're playing this game, it really doesn't 187 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.120 make a difference. If you can play, you can play. You either 188 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.960 got the talent you don't. We talked about it, not to scapegoat Bosball 189 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.080 when he was seven, seventeen I think he was seventeen. Oh, he's 190 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.639 only seventeen. He played out of his mind. Yeah, when he was 191 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.080 eighteen he lost his mind again. And he's at seventeen. He's probably been 192 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.960 playing organized basketball for ten years. Yes, of course, and this is 193 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.960 what they do. Ye, it's like it gets me, It gets me, 194 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:20.519 kind of makes me laugh a little. Where these guys play five games 195 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:22.440 and five days, they're twenty two years old. What else are you going 196 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.200 to be doing? Yeah, they're used to this, go to the boss. 197 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:30.159 We didn't need ice packs, we need the drugs. We'd need shots 198 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.159 in our legs to get past. Look, I pulled a hamstring watching my 199 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:35.960 son play the other day, all right to my point, thank you very 200 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.360 much. I went to his you know, his his league basketball game up 201 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.320 at Sporting Chants and I, you know, I pulled a hand to get 202 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.600 up the stairs, just pulled the hammer, just sitting there trying to sit 203 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:48.840 down, like my hamstrings were hurting. So this is what these guys do. 204 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.240 I mean, there's too many games. Oh, come on, they 205 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.399 get paid millions to do it. The patient sho should survive. Yeah, 206 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.600 yeah, no, And look and when when you see I put in the 207 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.279 work and that and that's the thing that that you know, if you want 208 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:09.039 to separate yourself, and what separated Jordan is nobody worked harder than he did. 209 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.679 Right, He was the hardest working guy. And if you didn't work 210 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:13.759 as hard as he did, well, he was on your ass. That's 211 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.039 what Kobe was. That's what Kobe was working for. And he hated it 212 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.000 when the guys wouldn't come, wouldn't work. It was hard. And if 213 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.639 that, you know, if you want to, if you want to tell 214 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:26.159 you as Steve's secret sauce, that's the secret sauce. And especially in that 215 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.919 sport, you know, because the individual skills are so important. If somebody's 216 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:33.639 working harder than you, then they probably gon't end up being better than I'll 217 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.200 give you a perfect example, and we covered him. I covered him. 218 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:41.159 You saw him, Colid. Yeah, I mean, the guy would have 219 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:45.480 been fantastically good, lasted a long time in the league had he worked as 220 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.600 much as Damon. He was a little acadaisical and used his talent, you 221 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.720 know, just wanted to you know, flash the talent and you know, 222 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:54.480 didn't do all the other pieces that come with it, no, no doubt. 223 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.039 And in fact, Damon was the one who said if he would have 224 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.120 worked as hard as I would, he would have been playing forever. Yeah, 225 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.240 because he was stoppable. Yeah he was. He was. You know, 226 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.799 there's still people who say that he could have scored every time he had 227 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.480 the ball if he chose to. And then the thing is he didn't chose 228 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.240 to. Well, he had a tough defender. He was defended pretty much 229 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.639 every game. Yeah, exactly exactly, but you know, but again a 230 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.960 guy like that, you know, but that's why you say, you know, 231 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.039 the great ones have all the parts sight, whether it's the mental aspect 232 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.679 of it, the want, that desire, all that, that's it. 233 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:33.000 The first thing you say is mental. I mean you have to want it 234 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.840 and then continue to want it right for right, even when you're up there. 235 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.600 Okay, let's go, We'll get all right, Let's take a break. 236 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.639 Neimer Hasse coming up talking about the National Football Foundation golf tournament and just 237 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:46.320 some of the other things that they do here with camps and scholarships and all 238 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.799 that kind of stuff. So we'll have Neimer Hasse coming up or after the 239 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:52.360 break. Stick around. The window depot has everything you need to create the 240 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.639 kitchen or bathroom of your dreams, frowsy aisles of in stock cabinets, available 241 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:01.320 in a variety of sizes and configurations, and instantly elevate your space. Today, 242 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.840 visit a showroom and let our experts guide you. 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Wow, this is I on the Ball with Steve Rovera 311 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:07.279 and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen to fifty. Hey, welcome back to 312 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:11.119 IYE on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, 313 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.319 He's Jagin Zawiz. Now on the phone, we have Nimar Hassey from the 314 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:18.359 National Football Foundation. Nimer, how are you good? How are you guys 315 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.920 today? We're doing fine, We're doing good. Nimer, appreciate you coming 316 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.799 on. I know you got your big event this weekend, a golf tournament 317 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:30.359 out at Alconquistador, But I want to talk to you a little bit about 318 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:32.839 that and some of the stuff that's going on. So first, tell us 319 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:36.240 about the tournament. When we talked yesterday, I think you said you've still 320 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:37.799 got a couple of foursomes you'd like to sell. But tell us a little 321 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:42.119 bit about the tournament. What the money does. Yeah, so this is 322 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:48.880 for the National Football Foundation Southern Arizona Chapter. I'm one of the vice presidents 323 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:52.200 and Tim Kish is our president, who's a great leader for us. The 324 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.640 golf tournament is thirty four foursomes. We have room for two more full fourth 325 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:03.000 themes. The funding care of our charge as an organization in Southern Arizona, 326 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:07.200 trying to make football better, trying to make connections with youth football, to 327 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:14.200 high school football, to the University of Arizona, and the funding helps with 328 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:18.319 the community outreach, but it also helps with our Scholar Awards, and which 329 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:22.839 we've been presenting the spring to different players around the city who have earned the 330 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:30.759 Scholar Award through their leadership, community service, academics, and of course their 331 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.440 play on the field. And that's with the funding. It's our one and 332 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:40.319 only main fundraiser. Everything else is more outreach and support to the community with 333 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:45.039 recognizing leaders through football. So i'd been involved. I think both of us 334 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:48.279 have been involved for a long time. How difficult is it to kind of 335 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.599 vet all the that's not the right word, but come up with a ten 336 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:55.799 or twelve, whatever number you come up with, because there's so many quality 337 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:00.680 kids out there. Yeah, and you know, it's good process that they 338 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.519 that we've all established. I'm not on the committee because I work at a 339 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:07.200 high school and so you know, just by default, I can't be on 340 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:15.680 it. But the people who score the applications have a rubric and they come 341 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.119 to consensus, you know, based on the scoring system. I mean there 342 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.359 are some that are close. We don't have a set number either. We 343 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.279 take the best and if one year we're giving six away and one year we're 344 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.160 given twelve away, that's just the way it will be because we want to 345 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:34.480 recognize the students to deserve it. So these athletes and student athletes, well 346 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:40.559 these guys are really student athletes, right, They get scholarships. How much 347 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:44.720 of these scholarships and as you said, it's all funded by this golf tournament, 348 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:48.680 right, well, we have we have different This is our main fundraiser, 349 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.160 but we do have donations that come out from the year and we use 350 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.920 that too. Some of this, some of the golf tournament money will go 351 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:00.480 to operational costs for community outreach. We have like a senior showcase that we 352 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:04.519 put on. We do a youth football clinic, We have a seven on 353 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:12.039 seven that we partner with another group. So we're we're doing many community outreach 354 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:18.240 events. And then the golf tournament funds helps the scholar awards for sure, 355 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.759 but then other things that we want to do in Tucson. Also, girls 356 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:27.599 flag football is a big thing, and we're trying to support tournaments and partnering 357 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:33.519 with you of A on that as well. But yet, I mean, 358 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:40.640 it's these student athletes that are recognized are not only top football players, but 359 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:44.480 they have the academics to go with it, and they also do the leadership 360 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:48.759 and community service, which is very important to the well rounded student. It's 361 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.559 funny because the flag the women's of girls flag football has become very usual the 362 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.920 last two years, I think two three years though, and I think it's 363 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:59.400 gonna be Olympic sport here coming up soon. Right. So I'm sure you've 364 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.319 got a lot of us from that or was that an internal thing that you 365 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.000 guys had to realize, well, this is going to be a big deal 366 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:10.039 later. I think it's a request. It's out there, but not really 367 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:12.119 request directly. Does. I think that's more internal. You know, a 368 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:17.599 lot of the high schools in southern Arizona. If we could move, if 369 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:21.839 flag football or if the girls flag football ever moves to the spring, it 370 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:26.440 would be a lot easier because two son schools don't have the facilities to put 371 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:30.880 it in. So maybe NFF could be the driving leader and getting tournaments at 372 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:36.559 least down here to get that recognition. Okay, so when we wanted some 373 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:40.799 of the other stuff. But on the golf tournaments this Saturday, it's at 374 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.759 at elkin Kisador, which is not the by the hotel, but over there 375 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.519 on locking down a Drive. There are tea sponsorships, whole sponsorships you can 376 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:53.000 still get. There's still two foursomes left. It's you t off at seven 377 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:57.519 thirty, Is that right? Yeah? We t off at seven thirty and 378 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:03.279 we'll have a great day. We have probably I know we have over one 379 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.079 hundred prizes for the Raffle and the Silent Auction and it'll be, you know, 380 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.440 just a great time. And my goal this year is to raise thirty 381 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:17.519 thousand dollars for the Organization for Scholar Awards and other community outreach programs that we 382 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:22.000 do. We're in good shape, but you know, selling the two forces 383 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:25.359 would be fantastic for us. Okay. So now one of the some of 384 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:27.759 the other great things that you've really started doing over the last few years has 385 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:30.720 been a lot of these clinics. I guess you had a coaching clinic over 386 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:34.799 the weekend. You've got the you've got the showcase. When when is that 387 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:40.960 showcase? Whereas athletes, you know, can't have an opportunity to to to 388 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.400 be seen in front of coaches and stuff from some of the smaller schools who 389 00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:48.079 are looking for quote unquote diamonds in the rough. Yeah, it's in mid 390 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:55.200 February every year and we hosted in Phoenix. It's a statewide senior showcase. 391 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.759 Tim Kish is the lead on that and he he's real passionate about that because 392 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:07.440 it provides opportunities scholarships. Kids sign on that day in some in some regards, 393 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.440 and it just gives another opportunity for the non D one student to have 394 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.400 a chance to play. How has that been? How successful has that gone? 395 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:22.640 It's been been great. I know they're getting scholarship money. I believe 396 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:29.880 the numbers over four million dollars that was raised just recently. And and that's 397 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.359 just helping students, right, I mean, that's what our job is, 398 00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:37.519 just to create other pathways to the goal, to their goal, you know 399 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:38.960 name right, you know, as you mentioned, you know when you first 400 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:42.519 started, you know describing what NFF does. One things is, as you 401 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:47.640 said, to try and get people to want to be a part of football. 402 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:48.920 Right. You know, there's so much going on, you know, 403 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.160 so many moms out there saying my kid's not playing those kinds of things. 404 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:56.480 You guys, you're trying to help help that help people love football, you 405 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.640 know, as you said, the girls flag football program. But you know, 406 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.119 what's that like out there? What are you seeing from in terms of 407 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:08.599 people and the interest in football these days? So fince post COVID, I 408 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.319 was worried actually about football for a while when COVID hit and everything. But 409 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:18.359 since COVID is behind us as far as shutting everything down, I've seen numbers 410 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:23.799 going up. We go to the youth football jamborees. We rotate get out 411 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:29.279 there and you know, just kind of helping tell people who we are and 412 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.119 just supporting what they're doing. And I'm seeing good numbers out there. It's 413 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:37.240 really encouraging to see so many people involved in football and tier as well. 414 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.119 We want to really stretch out and help the youth chier as well. And 415 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:47.160 we go to Friday Night Lights and present Player of the Game football teams at 416 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:52.319 different games every Friday. We partner with Arizona Ball on that. So and 417 00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:56.680 then we have connections with Arizona and helping them with the you know, the 418 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:03.640 ZENDEEV Kicking camp and then they're seven on having girls or their girls football flag 419 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:08.240 football, and then Victory Victory Foundation Mike Biller does seven on seven and he 420 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.599 provides that seven and seven for free and we're a partner in that as well, 421 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.559 so with them, and so just trying to make football better and support 422 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:22.079 people to feel comfortable to improve the sport in Tucson, Southern Arizona as a 423 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:23.799 whole. Yeah, I mean, you know, again, you know, 424 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.319 for those of us who love football, we I think everybody you know appreciates 425 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.920 what you're doing. So One of the things that you guys have always done 426 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.240 has been a part of too, is getting getting players into the college Football 427 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:38.079 Hall of Fame. There's four of them at Arizona that that the Foundation, 428 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.160 and then there's some coaches and whatnot. Tell us a little bit about anything 429 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.839 that's going on there. Last I heard, I think Antoine Cason with somebody. 430 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.119 You guys we're trying to get in. What's the status in terms of 431 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.680 the college Football Hall of Fame, whether the coaches or players that the Football 432 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:59.119 Foundation is involved in. Yeah, we're actually the main path forward for any 433 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.920 U of a football player to get into the college Hall of Fame. It 434 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.559 has to be in conjunction with University of Arizona and US, but we are 435 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.759 part of the National Football Foundation College Hall of Fame, so that's the only 436 00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:14.599 way to get in is through us. We are going to have more talks 437 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.200 about that. We did not not too long ago, try to put anton 438 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.480 Cason in and it's just a hard process and sometimes it takes a few years 439 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.119 to get anybody in. But that's one of our one of our focuses for 440 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:29.880 sure. Who would be your next guy? Who's the next guy up? 441 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:36.799 Well, I would think we'd still work with Anton Cason. Steve McLoughlin has 442 00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:38.720 been floated around and he'd be a good candidate as well. Yeah, he's 443 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.559 lou Gross Award winners, so one of them win big awards. Christ McCallister, 444 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:47.880 who should have won the the Thorpe Award, right, So yeah, 445 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.480 him too. There's there's some good ones out there that you know, that 446 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.160 qualify that we want to keep pushing forward. Yeah all right, So, 447 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:59.160 uh so you got this going on, you've got anything else this summer that 448 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.079 people should keep an ey out for. We're going to partner with Victory Foundation 449 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.359 for the seven on seven tournament that's in June. It's a free tournament for 450 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.799 all the high schools that are in our area and southern Arizona. So it's 451 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.680 really nice to have that free seven on seven tournament. It's very well organized. 452 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.240 Michael Dialer, who's you know, part of most of the schools down 453 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.559 here, that helps the fundraising, but he also gives back quite a bit, 454 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.880 and so we'll be partnering with him on that, and then later in 455 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:33.000 August we'll do some community outreach with the youth football and the different jamborees that 456 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.359 they might have Okay, So we're talking to Nearmerhase He Southern Arazona chapter of 457 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.960 the Next Football Foundation, also a longtime high school football coach. Also the 458 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:48.200 principal at Michael Mountain, right, Mike michaununt. So what are you doing 459 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:55.839 football wise besides this, I'm principal. I don't do anything in football wise. 460 00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:00.440 I support our own football program and I do my volunteer work with the 461 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.519 National Football Foundation. So you miss it. I don't want to get I 462 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.920 don't want to get in Pat Newgen's way. He's such a good coach. 463 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.359 Well yeah, let him just do his thing. Well, you must have 464 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:14.920 been proud of what they did this this uh this season because he was going 465 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.000 up against his old buddy up here at the cdo areas with with mister Peace. 466 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.480 You must have had, you know, some pride in that whole matchup. 467 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.039 I did. I mean, we're we're a brand new school. This 468 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.839 is our first full class of students. We we don't have we you know, 469 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.799 we have a full class of seniors, but we have a lot of 470 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.279 students that have experience on the football level that are all coming back next year. 471 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:44.240 So I'm excited for what Pat's building and have Our students are great leaders, 472 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.799 great students, and good people, and then they work hard. So 473 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.240 it's just nice to see a brand new school being successful. And I'm excited 474 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:53.960 for the upcoming season. But I was really proud of what they did final 475 00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.920 anytime you get in a final four of any conference, that's a heck of 476 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.240 achievement, and I was proud of that. Okay, what's harder being a 477 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:07.559 football coach? For being in high school? Principal Principal is a marathon. 478 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:15.920 Football coach is a sprint. They're both difficult, but they're different in the 479 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.319 time. Because you were a longtime coach obviously know the landscape of the city. 480 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.680 How do you think the football situation at the high school level, even 481 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:30.119 youth football has come since your time in the last maybe twenty years. Actually, 482 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.200 for a while I thought football in southern Arizona's kind of dipping down, 483 00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.160 but I think it's trending up now. There's really good from our clinic. 484 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.680 This past weekend, we got some high school coaches that are real professional and 485 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.680 they're up and coming people. And that's the hard part. You know, 486 00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.279 the pool of coaches is then it's hard to find people. I remember when 487 00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.559 I was a head coach. I had twenty five assistant coaches easy and then 488 00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:58.240 had to turn people away. Now it's hard to find people. It's a 489 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.480 tough job, and I think the pool of coaching, we just need to 490 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:05.920 keep building in our young people to get back in the sport. I use 491 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.400 a Jeff Bowl now at take a Verty example, there's not a lot of 492 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:13.440 people like him and his age that are like grinders and they watch film. 493 00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:16.440 And I learned from Howard Brining and Will Kramer, and that's what you did. 494 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.440 That was the standard. You know, the standard was you're gonna work 495 00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.000 seven days a week and you're gonna watch film and you're gonna learn the game. 496 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:27.279 And that's kind of tailed away. But I think we're on the upswing 497 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.759 now. I also think the shutdown with COVID and what happened in southern Arizona 498 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:36.599 really knocked off a lot of programs and I see that coming back now and 499 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.640 that's encouraging. And that's as a national Football Foundation, that's got to be 500 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:45.319 our one of our main drives is to help people get tuos on football back 501 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.119 to where it was ten years ago. All right, Neimer, Well, 502 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.599 we appreciate the time and great stuff that you guys are doing. I will 503 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.319 be out there on Saturday. I'm going to force some some I'm very happy 504 00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:00.359 to do that. Then I show I tell your name, chicken score check. 505 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.720 I'm looking at Southern Arizona, foe. I'm looking. I'm looking forward 506 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:10.039 to the lunch. All right, that's a whole bunk. Okay, talk 507 00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:15.280 to you soon. You know that they're their golf tournament. I play in 508 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:16.480 it every year. It's a it's a great event. And you know, 509 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.519 all the guys are out there, right you run into the Huntley's and Cecil 510 00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:24.599 and all those guys are always out there. Ran into Lamonta this last weekend 511 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:29.639 at the Autism golf tournament. But uh uh, you know there's a lot 512 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.760 of guys out there. You know. It's really well supported by the football 513 00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.480 guys in town. I suspect we'll see Brent Brannan out there and stuff like, 514 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.679 unless he's out recruiting somewhere, which I don't know if he can. 515 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.760 But anyways, a great event. So if if you've got a little bit 516 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.480 of a time and a little bit of money, I want to support this. 517 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.280 They do have two fources. You can go to the the Football Foundation, 518 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.960 They don't have a website, but they do have a Facebook page and 519 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.719 you can you can sign up for this golf tournament there under the National Football 520 00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:59.719 Foundation in Southern Arizona. Chapter. All right, let's take our breakcord and 521 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:04.400 come back. We'll take your calls five two zero four. 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All today five two zero four ninety 547 00:36:52.760 --> 00:37:05.760 two zero seven four eight or picture Rockspooling dot com. This is I on 548 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:10.880 the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez sound Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Subscribe 549 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:15.360 now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app Just Surgery I on the Ball. 550 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.079 Hey, welcome back to Iron the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 551 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.760 Steve, He's Jay, got Adam with us, we got Ryan with us, 552 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.039 we got the whole crew. Welcome to Tuesday. I was gonna say, 553 00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.840 Thursday Tuesday Show, if you want to call, please do five to 554 00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:36.519 zero four one six seven four four zero. My boy, go ahead. 555 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.119 I was gonna say, you know, you know, who do our listeners 556 00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.880 think should be next in the College Football Hall of Fame from Arizona? Who 557 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:45.159 do you think? Well, no, I thought I thought those guys right 558 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:49.199 three that you brought up, because because it's been a while, and you're 559 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.920 right, Cason, we've had him on the show. Yeah, maybe shortly 560 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:54.000 after he didn't get in. He had two a couple of years. Yeah, 561 00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:57.360 it was why they were trying to get him in. Yeah, so 562 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.199 probably yeah, yeah him, Uh, you know Chris McAllister, who I 563 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:09.159 think that year a cornerback from Texas won won it when mccawster was clearly ninety 564 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:14.119 eight, was clearly the best, the best defensive back in the country that 565 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.800 year, the whole reason that that team went twelve and one arguably. And 566 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:22.840 then, as we mentioned, Steve McLoughlin, so or Cougar went to my 567 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.400 high school, won the Leu Gros Award, which is like, you know, 568 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:30.360 the top award kicker. He was so consistently so good. Yeah, 569 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.800 he was. In fact, I ran into a scout Casey Scowling in Phoenix 570 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:38.159 in scott Still because he's now a cyclist and it looks good obviously, the 571 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:44.079 still he doesn't look like a punter bigger than bigger, scored a touchdown and 572 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:45.159 beat the hell out of one guy, remember one plan. I think he 573 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:51.880 came down the thing and so it's not the typical kicker punch got so but 574 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.360 those guys stick out him in my mind. If you know College Hallow Change, 575 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.920 do you think do you well? They have their criteria right, Yeah, 576 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.199 you could get into some way, do you think though? And this 577 00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:07.760 might be a naive question because I don't know that because they played at Arizona 578 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.159 and it's kind of isolated here. Enough publicity that that's one of the reasons 579 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.480 why they haven't got in. Yeah, because see yeah, yeah, well 580 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:21.880 yes and no, I mean I think that the Football Foundation, what I 581 00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.800 understand about it that they bend over backwards to not do that, right that 582 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:30.239 if a guy's worthy, whoever he played, he's worthy, right, you 583 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.960 know, the right and the yeah, yeah, of course they're going to 584 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.960 give it to the Heisman. You know, they're gonna put the Heisman Trophy 585 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.320 winners and you know the quarterbacks like Tim Tebow and those guys in there. 586 00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.159 But they do look for kind of under the radar kind of guys. I 587 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:51.159 mean because arguably, you know, anybody in Arizona's kind of under the radars, 588 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:52.599 right. I mean, Ricky Hunting was a two time All American, 589 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:58.039 you know, deserves to get in. Chuck Cecil was not. I mean 590 00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:00.199 he was an All American, but you know he was you know his story. 591 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.400 Everybody knows history. You know, undersized guy who just was you know, 592 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.400 a gutsy walk on guy, made a name for himself. You know, 593 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:10.320 he gets in. Part of it is the cell that the that the 594 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:15.480 that their local foundation, you know, does Teddy Bruski was you know, 595 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.639 again a no brainer. He set the all time n C double a uh 596 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.440 sack record. All right, there's an All American and then all the things 597 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.239 that he did in you know, in the NFL. And then but a 598 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.119 guy like Rob Waldrup. But rob Waldrup won again the Outland Trophy. He 599 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:35.000 won the award that goes to the best person at his position. That's where 600 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:38.480 that's where Steve McLoughlin maybe fits the criteria. Like that Antoine Cason, who 601 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.400 won the Thorpe Award, fits that criteria. You know, Chris McCallister did 602 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:47.760 not you you asked me no, no, no, uh uh, you 603 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:52.679 know, no shot at Antoine Kayson, who did I think was a better 604 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.280 defensive back at Arizona? Christ mc callister was, but he just happened to 605 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.639 be in the year that somebody else. Somebody thought somebody else was better because 606 00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:04.079 he played at Texas As opposed to be right. But you know, you 607 00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.639 can get in. It's just it's it's harder. But you know, a 608 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.760 big part of it is what the Local Football Foundation does. And when you 609 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.440 think about the four guys from Arizona that are in, you think those guys 610 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.039 did a great job to get those guys in because they deserve it, like 611 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.679 they can't get dictmy yet because there's a specific criteria that you got to win 612 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:24.800 I think seventy percent of your games and he's like at sixty eight percent of 613 00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:30.320 him going to Sentos State kind of yeah. So but you know Jim I 614 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:36.480 think Jim Young is in there. Who else? Uh? You know, 615 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.880 Mooddr I think is in there. A couple of a couple of Arizona coaches 616 00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.800 that are in there. So it's it's hard and look deservedly so, I 617 00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.559 mean Hall of Fames over the years, more recently have gotten too damn easy 618 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.880 to get into. So you know, if Antoine takes case on didn't get 619 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.000 in. Okay, you know, as long as somebody who he's he's not 620 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.960 better, or as long as there's not somebody in there who's better than right, 621 00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.360 Okay, Okay, I was gonna say something and I just when you 622 00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:07.039 raised your finger, Yeah, well you know on my memory. Remember that's 623 00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:08.639 why I have the kids. So you want to hear something very sad, 624 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:16.000 Oh hear okay, incredibly said you forgot something. I couldn't remember it talking 625 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:22.360 to somebody I could not remember his name, Tommy Lloyd's last name when yesterday, 626 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.320 Tommy, what are you going? I can't I gut that guy. 627 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.280 I couldn't come up with it. If you're a doctor out there, we're 628 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:35.760 taking hope you take our insurance. And I can't stop laughing. Yeah, 629 00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.920 well you gave me just the guy just now. I said, uh, 630 00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.719 Tom Crean, could I know the guy? I mean, what was he? 631 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.519 But I see him on on the TV right now, and that guy 632 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.079 got Tom Green? Yeah, I mean Tom Lloyd. I couldn't remember. 633 00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:52.320 They have the meeting that I can't go to the I can't go to the 634 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:57.159 union. Yeah, they meet the people today. Yeah, yeah, if 635 00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.280 there is that. You know, if you guys know who Tommy Lloyd is 636 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.199 and what, don't tell them. Don't tell the guy you always fist bump 637 00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.239 doesn't remember where the hell you are. And you got to win more tournament 638 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.039 games so everyone could remember. You know, we didn't get him the assist 639 00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.000 title this year either. You know, well, who who would have gone 640 00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:21.320 to? I don't know who. Don't pass the ball, Bradley. We 641 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.840 tried. They need to try. Yeah we weren't we and you know what 642 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:28.199 we there there are times we hand them out like candy. But it was 643 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.920 you know, there were times that you're giving yourself up. I don't think 644 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:36.360 that's true because you can't you can't know, but they're but there are times 645 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.480 that they're borderline ones and that you don't have any questions about that. Yeah, 646 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:45.119 we give it. It's it's a judgment called Steve. You know. 647 00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.280 It's like it's it's like the pitch is on the corner, right, is 648 00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:51.480 it a striker a ball? Sometimes some days it's a striking, some days 649 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.280 the same pitch as a ball. It's the same, it's the same thing. 650 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:55.599 You know, you realize this is on the public flour. We're on 651 00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.559 the public you know, I'm not saying I'm not telling anybody anything that they 652 00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.119 don't you know. I mean, you know, there's just some Yeah, 653 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:06.039 there are some days that that that that thing's an assist and some days that 654 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:10.199 it's not. So did you give did you give the kid who went to 655 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:17.159 to to concede another for forget to Baylor on the pass? Lu shot And 656 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.519 it was away game. It was an away game. Uh were in Arizona. 657 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:27.559 Guy took a shot and and and uh and and and he tried he 658 00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.039 tried to say it was a pass. Yeah, no, I wouldn't give 659 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:31.480 it an assist on that one. Yeah, I remember, I know the 660 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:35.400 one you're talking about where it ended up to the ballast. It ended up 661 00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.679 being in an l e U. But it was it was clearly clearly a 662 00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:42.440 shot. There was one this year, there was we had one of those 663 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:46.920 this year. It was it was it was with It was with Umar and 664 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.079 the he was he was a receiver right right, and it was it was. 665 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:57.199 It was clearly it was clearly a shot, but it was short and 666 00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.239 Umar caught it and through it, and they they wanted us to give an 667 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.679 assist on that. He said, no, it was a shot. There 668 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.960 was a crap shot and Umar caught it and you know, and and put 669 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.639 it in. They tried to come over and tell us that that's that was 670 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.119 that was an assist. We said, no, it's not. And I 671 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:20.360 think it was somebody who's trying to get a double double and it happened because 672 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:24.320 what it was. Let me, okay, no, I take it back. 673 00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:27.920 Here's what it was. Here's what it was. Umar was going for 674 00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:31.559 a double double and it was a pass and they tried to tell us it 675 00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.320 was a shot and he caught the ball and we said no, that was 676 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:37.559 a pass that was not a shot. It was the other way around, 677 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.920 That's what it was. And and so we gave an assist. Uh and 678 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.039 instead of a rebound in a basket. I think you mentioned did get the 679 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:50.440 double, but he got the he got the double double later in the later 680 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.400 in the game, remember that game. Yeah, but but but uh, 681 00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:58.039 because he was going for consecutive right right, going for consecutive double doubles, 682 00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.440 and it was getting late. But it was clearly a pass from the top 683 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.440 of the key, as if I recall it. I think he was even 684 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:07.039 Colin Boso who threw it, and they tried, but it was it was 685 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.559 kind of up towards the basket, and they wanted to call it a shot 686 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:13.599 and a rebel. Overall though, I think he even surpassed the rebound mark 687 00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.840 because he went he got eleven twelve. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 688 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.480 passed by by by a couple. We got to make those calls, you 689 00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:23.440 know, and sometimes you don't. You really don't know what you get. 690 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:30.960 He's like the black I still I still dispute the you know Matt Othics fourteen 691 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:36.719 assist game from years ago that that day that the guy who was calling assists 692 00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.760 for Arizona that day. Because back and then when we were doing that, 693 00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:42.559 you had a team that you were calling for. Yeah, okay, because 694 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.719 so there was a two guys calling for the home two guys calling for the 695 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.400 visitor, and the guy that was calling and he gave he gave man the 696 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.559 fourteen assists, and I'm like, no, we got to the end. 697 00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.360 I'm like, he's got fourteen. It sists. No way he had fourteen 698 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.119 assists. But he got fourteen assists. And in the book, it's in 699 00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.559 the book, is fourteen? Okay to good? Look at that game. 700 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.119 A lot of stuff goes on at that table that people don't know. Yeah, 701 00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:07.840 well I just gave some of it up. I know, I know, 702 00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:15.199 I know Jay's glove didn't fit. Okay, but again, you know 703 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.320 it's it's that ball on the corner man right on the right, on the 704 00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:22.679 right on the black. Is it a ball today or does it strike today? 705 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.320 That's too much for me to know. Why did you say it on 706 00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:29.480 the air? Now? Do you know Jacob's alas, sir? Yeah, 707 00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:31.760 I do happen to work with them. Did you hear the day the judgment? 708 00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:36.559 Here here's my okay, I know, have I ever told the story 709 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.360 on the one of my favorite stories, one of my favorite stories on this 710 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:45.079 It was when Connecticut was here, remember with U was it? Yeah? 711 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:46.320 It was like the year after they won the title. Yeah, okay, 712 00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:51.599 So they come here, right, and I think it was ok for he 713 00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:55.239 was going for a triple double. He had double had double digit points, 714 00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:00.519 he had double digit rebounds, and he had nine blocks. Okay, and 715 00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:06.039 the shot goes up from Arizona. He goes up to block it just well, 716 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:08.679 they said he tipped it. We said he didn't, and he did. 717 00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:14.159 We didn't give him the block. And Jim Calhoun literally and Sports Illustrated 718 00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:16.360 ripped our stack crew for not giving him the block, said that he had 719 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:20.880 a triple double and the and the local stack crew wouldn't give it to him. 720 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.480 And we watched you know, I remember because he argued about you know, 721 00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:27.480 he mentioned it in the postgame press conference and stuff. So I watched 722 00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.119 that over and over and they showed the replay over and over and over again. 723 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:35.320 He couldn't tell. Well, the rotation didn't change. I thought we 724 00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:37.320 had we had it right. And Calhoun called us out for not giving him 725 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.639 the block and giving him the triple double, and I'm like and basically said, 726 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:44.920 if that, if that play happens at Yukon, it's a triple double. 727 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.519 So the start crew was a tainted face. So what did he say 728 00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:52.920 earlier? Bronze face? I changed it. I changed it to light chocolate. 729 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.400 Screwed us out of a triple double from our star plaint he was, 730 00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.800 he was very upset at us. Well, tell them, tell them they 731 00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:07.719 got back for the block that that Laura Woods got after the right that they 732 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.599 call goaltending, right, yeah, right that year two thousand and one. 733 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, there you go. Okay, 734 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:15.920 God, I forgot what was gonna say, New Mahassi came on blah 735 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.599 blah blah. We have we have a lot of bricking news right, kind 736 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.360 of connected to juve. But it might come to me yeah in a bit. 737 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.719 But yeah, so you know that we that stuff like that over the 738 00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.519 years. It's always been fun to go through that stuff. All right, 739 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:35.920 Okay, that was fun. Okay, So again back to the Football Foundation. 740 00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.719 If you want to get out there, you know, do you what 741 00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:39.679 cost? Did you guys say the cost? God, I had it like 742 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:46.400 one sixty is one fifty. I think a foursome foursome runs six hundred dollars, 743 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:50.519 so you're talking one hundred and fifty dollars if you want to get the 744 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.800 four summer, you know, just go out there and play. There's ta 745 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:59.519 sponsorships, there's whole sponsorships, anything like that, and definitely a good cost. 746 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:00.840 You know, you night what you said. We've been part of their 747 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.440 the event that they used to have for the UH for the four students and 748 00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.639 the awards, but they used to do a big dinner or or sometimes it 749 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.639 was the luncheon, and yeah, it's some impressive, impressive, very impressive 750 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.800 kids. Kids you didn't know because it's not specific. It's it's specific to 751 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:22.360 football, but the kids are academically unbelievably and their football players. Some kids 752 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.400 going to army and then you see him later becoming big time army people or 753 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:29.599 naval or whatever it is. UH. You know, the aspirations of being 754 00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.400 mentioned Casey Scyron because I always would give one to a U of a guy 755 00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:38.039 Casey Skyron was an award winner one year. That guy, Dave Roberts was 756 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:43.480 the name he was. He was like a UH. I think he was 757 00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.199 one of the last ones when he was an engineer. What do you call 758 00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:52.480 it, uh, astrophysicist or something like something incredible incredible. There's been a 759 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.760 lot of things because it's more than football. It's academics. Uh and you 760 00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.679 know, community works work and stuff like that. So always good stuff that 761 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:06.199 the Football Foundation does. Again, one of those organizations that's in town that 762 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:08.320 people don't realize how much they do. And they do a lot of stuff. 763 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:12.079 So if you get a chance, you know, take take a look 764 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:14.559 at that and maybe get out there and fill up those last two for us. 765 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:17.960 When he was talking, I brought up the nugent, nugent and and 766 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:23.440 good combination back in the day. But I would have to say, and 767 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.000 this is maybe me stepping too much and we're in out of time, that 768 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.000 Nugent is is probably one of the top one or two coaches in the city 769 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.679 at that level. Yeah, but he could do more. He did it 770 00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.400 starts a brand new program, you know, and does what they did last 771 00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.000 year, you know, get get you know, get that far in the 772 00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:44.320 in the playoffs, right and you've got a former understudy of Toomey's and back 773 00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.079 in the day, no one of the but there's a bunch of those guys 774 00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:49.320 in town right now and they're all doing a great job. And they're all 775 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.039 and I think that's why the level of football is improving, improving, is 776 00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:55.719 improving again. So good, good for those guys. All right, let's 777 00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.599 take our break. We're back here at the top of the hour. We're 778 00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.400 going to come back. Adam'sked up a whole bunch of breaking news right at 779 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:07.519 him. Yeah, that wasn't the confident, Yeah it was. I don't 780 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:13.880 know if he understood cooked up. All right, we'll be right back with 781 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:14.480 breaking news.