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Now one of your pudding. I
got a string going on here, something

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just because my dog. Something killed
your dog? My dog. We're flying

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through the or over the tree.
I don't know how it did it,

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Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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over the fence and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,

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I didn't see any cars. All
I saw was my dog coming over

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the fence. Sat what are you
putting? We got some wonder or something

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crawling around out here? Did you
see what it was? Or was it

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was? Standing enough? I'm out
here looking through the window now and I

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don't see anything. I don't want
to go outside. Jesus quice you better

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New York, Hello, get somebody
out here. What quent on out there?

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It's got a bit of about sixty
nine? I don't know easy out

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there right? Oh, greetings from
Alaska. I'm going to share with you

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today the experience the two relatives that
were with me on the river bank with

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al Hooding and we have manon camp, and they found some of the fire

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logs out out of the river that
same year, less than a month later

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from that experience. We'll call them
Penelope and Jasmine. That's not their real

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names, but close enough, Penelope
and Jasmine. We're going gold prospecting by

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Harris Creek, which is north of
Kliganick. It's just above where the cutoff

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for the New Yekuk River where they
come together there they take off. They

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get up there and there's this big
gravel bar right there in the middle of

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the river. It's got this huge
tree stock and it's antiquated. I don't

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know how long that tree style has
been stuck on that particular gravel bar,

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but it breaks the channel up into
two and it goes right around the gravel

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bar, and it's really deep channel. If you're facing north, deep channel,

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high bank to your left, tree
stump in front of you on this

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gravel bar, lower bank to your
right, with a lot of trees that

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wrap back around the bend. A
little further down on the left is the

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mouth of the Nuyakuk River and a
spit that a little bit of a point

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from where it diverges our converges.
I should say. They get there and

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they get set up, and as
they're getting set up, they heard weird

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noises, but they put nothing to
it. Just they were in the deep

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woods it's probably just some moose growing
or something. They just never came across.

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They do their thing. They set
up their tent and they said it

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just behind that big tree stump to
block the breeze that comes down the river.

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They're set up and they're comfortable.
They got a limited amount of firewood,

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but they only planned on camping on
the gravel bar just that one night,

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and they were going to continue up
to Harris Creek. They're doing their

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thing. Jasuine's tired, goes asleep. Penelope stays up ten in the fire,

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sipping some cold ones and joining the
beautiful staery. And in that time

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of year, it's roughly a twelve
twelve light cycled twelve hours of dark beast

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twelve hours a light. It has
n't gone into the wee hours of winter

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where we get three four hours of
actual sun on the horizon kind of light.

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He's doing a thing, little fires
popping, the crackling away, and

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it keeps getting this eerie feeling like
he's just something like he's being watched.

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Grabs a spotlight, firearms still in
its case. Inside the tent. They

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were on a sand bar. They
felt safe from any intrusion, as they

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felt it would be all right.
So he just grabs a spotlight and it

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goes around the whole long gravel bar
there, just beaming off into the trees,

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trying to figure out why he's getting
this erie feeling, and he gets

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to the front side of the stump, facing northwards Terrace Creek. Terms of

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beam on it sees five cents of
eye shine, three smaller ones, two

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taller ones. The three smaller eyes
shines were bright, vivid white, and

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the two taller ones were a amber
red. And immediately he's what the hell

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is that? And it was more
curiosity for Penelope, because Penelope, he's

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checking his glasses and he's just trying
to put together what he's seeing. It

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seems to out of place to have
that kind of thing happening, and so

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he chalked it up initially to just
somewhere that it must be someone some reflectors

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of some kind up there, and
it's just in a weird pattern. I'll

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be able to make it out tomorrow
at that because it didn't move, none

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of that stuff, And he still
has this eerie feeling. He was able

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to compartmentalize eye shine into something to
worry about. But what's funny is subconsciously,

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he knew something was off. I
only laughed because Penelope gave me so

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much crap before this experience for him, I'll leave it along and just tease

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him what the name changed. Penelope
starts beaming again, just keeps feeling like

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he's being watched. Beams again,
and he's circling back the other direction this

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time. And when he swings the
light over to where the Nyakuk meets the

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Newshiak River. There at that little
point, he thought he saw what looked

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like a big guy in the fur
jacket jump into the trees, but he

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heard nothing. The thing that's weird. He's still in a little bit of

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a self denial. It's like things
aren't making sense, but internally his mind

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is danger. So he digs the
gun out, and he said he felt

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like he was on autopilot. Everything
was surreal. It sounded like a weird

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noise happening, but he couldn't really
make it out, like a whining of

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a saw way off in the distance. But that's the best thing he could

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equate it too. He said it
probably wasn't a sawt So he gets his

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rifle out, has it loaded,
has it ready, stokes the fire a

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little bit and continues drinking some cold
beers. Now he continues spotlight and didn't

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see anything else of the eyeshine wasn't
there, And so he calms down and

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he sits and he's just trying to
piece together what he saw and if he

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actually saw it, because let's be
honest, if we were out there and

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soft five sets of eye shine,
when's your first response be what the hell

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am I looking at? And did
I really see that? He's going over

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everything in his mind, and he
said, as he's doing that, he's

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facing north towards Harris Creek with the
fire right in front of him, a

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little offset spotlight next to him in
the rifle landing up out of his leg

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because he was sitting on a tree
stump, a small round and out of

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the corner of his left eye he
sees this big thing moving out of the

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river bank adjacent to a parallel and
then moving up towards Harrys Creek, and

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he throws up. He grabs the
spotlight out of the corner of his eye,

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and he beams and this scene gets
beamed thuring away from him. So

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he didn't see his face, but
he said it was tall man like long

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arms. It wasn't pitch black,
but it was very dark in color,

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and it was obviously not a man. It was way way too big to

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be some man and way too big
to be a suit to be moving that

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fluidly. Still, he wasn't reactionary. It was more what the hell you

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do with that? So it just
moves on into the darkness. He stopped

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beaming. It just heading the sand
type of thing. He goes, no,

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this ain't right, so he wakes
up Jasmine. Jasmine's not happy.

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His feathers were ruffled to be interrupted
by foolishness until he came outside. Finally

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came out after arguing back and forth, and Penelope was serious, Hey,

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get your butt out here, come
see this stuff for yourself. I need

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a witness, basically, And that's
what boils down to, because he felt

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if he didn't get Jasmine to come
see this stuff going on with him,

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no one would believe him. And
hey, fair enough, that's how it

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goes. So finally coaxes Jasmine out
of the tent and demands Jasmine bringing his

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rifle. So Jasmine calling out his
rifle and saying, man, they're better

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be a bear ready to charge us? For getting me out of this damn

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tent tired, because they've been on
the river a couple of days. It

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takes a while to get way up
there like that. So they're going back

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and forth, and he's explaining what
he saw and Jasmine's dismissing it, and

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I hope he's not. I know
what bricker I saw. Dude, listen

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what I'm telling you. And then
he goes listen to that, and Jasmin

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catches on that, I mean buzzing
sound off in the distance. And as

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they're both literally listening to the air, not really looking in any particular direction,

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from the direction of Harris Creek just
north of them, they hear the

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loudest, blood crimbling scream that they've
ever heard, and it snapped them out

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of their little trance argument stuff.
Survival mode instantly kicks in, he said.

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Once Jasmine came out, he was
standing and holding his rifle, and

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somehow his rifle ended up right near
the edge of the water, because when

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they were startled, stuff flung,
when they were jolted with that scream.

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That's how loud it was, that's
how forceful this scream was. He immediately

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grabs his rifle again, he's checking
it. They get the spotlight and they

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beam the direction that they heard the
scream come from. They want to know

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what the hell's coming, so they
beam, and when they beam, they

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see three sets of eye shine,
two bigger red eye shines, one smaller

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white set eye shine. And they
killed the light real quick because once they

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this time, when they being there
was movement, they killed it. We

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don't want to attract that, whatever
the hell it is, because they couldn't

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make it out. They could just
make out the eye shine at that distance.

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They sit down the spotlight and they're
talking amongst each other. Maybe we

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should drip down river a little waves
anchor out what we did the year before

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with the out hooting star earlier that
year with the out hooting stuff, and

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they're discussing that because we didn't see
anything at that point, and this time

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they actually see these things and they're
not necessarily trying to hide. They did

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a little movement, but they both
recognized it's not right. So they start

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talking reliving what happened a few weeks
before with me in the skiff when we

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had to ditch that that camping spot
with the big bonfire. And as they're

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discussing reliving that moment. They hear
another screen come in the same direction,

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but it's a little closer, so
immediately they snap out of their debate,

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so they beam it. They beam
up up towards Harris Creek again, and

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now there's the three they saw,
the two bigger red eye shines, the

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smaller set of white eye shine.
They saw two more red eye shines,

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even taller than the ones, and
three or four other white eye shines.

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They started panicking because of the noise
and ice shines. So there's something living

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and there's something very loud over there. They already know it's a hairy man,

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but they're trying to figure out how
this is happening. They decide they're

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going to roll with the punches.
Nothing has happened. We'll stay here on

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this gravel bar. Now it's only
twenty feet to the taller river bank,

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probably thirty on this side, to
the other side of the river bank.

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A deep channel between that and the
high bank to their left, and that

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goes towards the northwards Harris Creek side
of it. They got their game plan.

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They're gonna forget about it. They
don't want nothing to do with it.

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They're going to forget about it.
Nothing's happened. They're safe. And

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as they're discussing how they're safe,
they're this cadence of something dropping in the

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water, something that big, just
like little pebbles getting dropped in the water,

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and it's happening at such a rate
that they can't ignore it. At

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first, they figured there was a
little fish jump or something. You've ever

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been on lake and a little fish
was similar to that. The sound that

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starts happening, and then the cadence
speeds up a little bit and it is

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coming from behind them and from just
off in front of them, and they're

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thrown off by it. It's like
all of a sudden, there's a new

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thing making noise. They decide,
we can't ignore this. Let's stoke up

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the fire. Jasmine wasn't feeling good
genuinely and said, hey, I'm gonna

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have my fire. I'm ready,
but I need to lay down so if

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anything starts coming in on us,
let me know for sure, and I

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will jump up and join you.
And Penolopi wasn't happy with that. Hey,

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his look wasn't feeling good to see. How go lay down? As

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just as they finished that little conversation, Jasmine's crawling into the tent. A

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huge splash hits the channel between them
and the high bank to their left,

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cublooge and there's a broken top half
of a birch tree, leaves still on

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it. They didn't hear this thing
break, nothing, All of a sudden,

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it's just cut pluge, and Penelope
was just frozen watching this thing start

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to sink into the river and then
get drugged down by the current. It

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was just so random. A tree
in the channel. So he's trying to

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figure out what he just saw.
You know, it was a tree,

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you know it was a birch tree. But he was trying to process the

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mechanics of what just happened. Why
is this happening? And immediately the fury

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level goes right back up to where
he can't not pay attention. He resumes

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posted in front of the fire and
he's got his firearm. He's telling Jasmin,

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who's communicating from the tent, Hey, I'm fine, I'm just laying

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here. I'm ready to move,
just holler if you need me, and

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he goes, Dude, something through
a tree in the river next to us.

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Something's not right. So they talked
back and forth and he realizes that

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Jasmine is genuinely not feeling good,
so eases up on how aggressive he's being

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about help me. He realizes he's
there and he'll help. So as they're

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having this little discussion, corner of
his eye he sees movement again. This

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thing is pacing back and forth and
not quite getting parallel with them on the

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river bank, but just above them, pacing back and forth. And after

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it stopped pacing back and forth,
it turned and looked directly at him and

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started doing this swaying thing as it
lowered and squatted itself down, bringing its

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elbows onto its knees, and then
doing this sway thing and going back up

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to standing up. He said it
was every bit of at least twelve foot

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tall. At least that was a
rough guesstimate, but he said it was

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very big, obviously, very hulky, like real, real thick. So

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this thing squats down, stands back
up, doing the same thing, took

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a half step towards further down the
river bank, coming towards them, not

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directly because it dropped water, but
coming down the river bank, it does

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this little half step, does the
same thing, staring right at him,

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squats all the way down elbows on
the knees kind of thing, and does

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the same thing, and stands back
up and a little half step does it

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again. This whole time, he's
just measurment as what the hell am I

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watching as this thing is doing this. When it would get to full height,

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he noticed its eyes would take off
him and look behind him and then

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right back to him, like it
was really fast. But he noticed it

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because it was every time it stood
up. He was like, what the

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hell? And he's trying to tell
Jasmine what's happening, but he's stuttering because

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he's obstruck by what's happening, but
he knows it's looking at something behind him.

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He doesn't like that, thoughts,
so he grabs the beam. He

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gets Jasmine to come out. Jasmine
starts watching this thing do it. He's

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still on his hands and knees like
a dog, looking out of the tent

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or to his right. Now up
at the river bank, at this thing

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doing this. Now, grant you, there's no beam on it, as

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simple firelight and the ambient light at
that time of night, the woods still

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seemed pitch black. But they could
see this thing doing this thing, and

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they could see its eyes because of
the firelight. When it would look at

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him, it gave off a certain
luminescence. It's all own high beams.

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It just a weird type of eyeshine
was coming off of it to where it

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was easy to see. It was
two live eyes. It wasn't like a

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direct eyeshine. Just understand what he's
getting at. So anyway, Jasmin's washing

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the scene. Penelope grabs the spotlight, spotlights it. It doesn't punch.

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It keeps doing a thing. It
stopped popping doing this little half step thing

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and doing it. It was just
standing one place, stand up, do

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the same thing down and it just
kept doing that repetitively at its own pace,

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its own cadence. And so he
turns around and beams directly behind where

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he's noticed the thing keeps looking.
Once it stands up all the way,

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he sees two sets of eye shine
down river on the opposite bank looking back

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at him. So now concern goes
way up. Now, what the hell

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do we do? Turns around because
Jazz is slapping his leg because Jasmin's still

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on all fours, looking over to
his right up at this thing doing this

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stuff, and he starts slapping Penelope's
leg to get his attention because he couldn't

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speak. This thing had come further
down parallel with them, just directly across

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the twenty foot distance or so a
little higher than them, and was just

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so massive standing there, and it's
starting making this weird noise, showing its

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teeth, and then started rocking back
and forth with that same noise down to

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his knees and then back up.
And they were like, this thing is

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getting worked up. It's challenging us. So immediate concern, a very immediate

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concern. They decide they're going to
take their fire arms. We're going to

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circle around to the backside of that
tree stuff and keep an eye in that

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direction in case it starts throwing stuff, which is a genuine concern. They

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did that directly as a result of
what happened to me the year before when

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that one chucked the rock at me. They immediately got behind some kind of

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real cover instead of a simple nile
on ten, so they didn't know its

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intention. And how could you this
thing's making this weird noise, standing up,

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squatting down, You got two sets
of eye shine behind you. You're

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sitting here freaked out because this thing
is doing this. But yet you know

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there's other ones around. I've been
in similar situations. It is not something

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you want. I hear a lot
of people say I want to have an

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experience. I just want to see
you one to confirm I know they're there.

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But and fair enough, if I
get it, human curiosity, you

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want to know. But sometimes you
got to be careful what the hell you're

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wishing for, because there's certain things
like the reality of what was going on.

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For my looks, this thing's doing
this crazy stuff. They're virtually surrounded,

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but yet they had a retreat,
they had the skiff right there,

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they had guns. Nothing drastic has
happened, but there's some owmnous about what

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this thing is doing. It goes
on for a little bit, still doing

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a thing, and it always would
turn and be directly facing them. But

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he did notice after a couple of
times a bit squatting down on whatever.

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Once they got behind the stump,
it was looking and not where it was

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originally where he saw the two sets
eye shine behind him on the river bank.

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But the eye shine he had anticipated
was moving. So when he beamed

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that direction where he saw it looking
now, sure enough, two sets eye

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shine, different heights. They were
bobbing and moving because of the light or

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whatever, he could really make out
full figures, but it kills the light.

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They're behind the stomp. The one
is still on the bank, on

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the opposite side of the stump,
and they're watching it move around. It's

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almost like it's searching the ground looking
for something, and they think, oh,

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it's going to grab a rock.
Jasmine's freaked out at the thought.

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He goes, we can't just let
it grab a rock, shoots a shot

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in the air right just scares the
shit out of Penelope because Penelope wasn't expecting

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it. The shot rings out.
This thing takes off into the trees,

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just doesn't look back, just gone. And he didn't shoot at it.

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He shot immediately. Penelope turns,
beams the opposite side of the river bank

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and there's just some brush moving.
No eye shine, okay, pop the

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shot in the air of this scene
took off, so they beam up towards

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Terrace Creek again. No more ice
shine. They're like, we're good,

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We're good. That okay, now
we know what to do with the pop

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shot. They're gone. They felt
confident in this. They calmed down.

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Some time passed. Jasmine gets back
to sleep, Penelope decides, I'm gonna

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have one more cold on him.
Does this thing is laying there and he's

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got the rifle laid on him just
because of what they just dealt with and

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saw things have gotten quiet and it's
just dozing off that He didn't remember how

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much time had passed, but it
was plenty dark by now, and he

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heard something in the water, like
a gurgling water sound or something moving through

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the water. He's just laying there
listening on is that something drifting down the

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river and water's just lapping over it, or it's something moving through the water.

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He found out soon enough. He
fell and heard water dripping off of

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this thing as it came onto the
gravel bar. So it crossed across the

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channel and is coming up the gravel
bar and it circles around the stone,

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and it circles around the whole tent, huffing hoof, and it was imitating

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a bear huff, he said,
really well, but it was too loud.

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It was far too loud to actually
be a bear huff. But because

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you're on the Salmon River, he
wanted to make sure right. So,

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after this thing circled once and he
heard it going back towards the stump.

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He figured, now it's a good
time. I can get out behind it

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and get sight on this if it
is a bear, and scare it off.

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So he unzips and then he hears
the grunting stop. Whatever it was

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heard the zipper, and they got
quiet, and he couldn't hear it moving

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anymore, and he goes, hey, we're armed in here. I will

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shoot you, very loud. Screaming
echoes up and down the river, very

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loud, multiple octaves. Freak the
hell out, Jasmine's up right now because

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this thing literally screamed less than fifteen
feet away from them. Okay, they

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felt it through everything. So he
threatens to shoot. Scream happens. He's

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stuck the zippers only part of the
way up, and he ain't gonna freaking

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get out of there. So in
his mind's eye, he's picturing this thing

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just snatching the tent like you would
a rolled up brown paper bag and just

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smashing it against him, And rightfully, I would have thought the same thing.

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They're quiet, they're dead quiet.
They hear the thing moving again,

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circles around one more time, grunting
aloud, of this time with the gurgley.

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If you had a bad walk in
pneumonia. At every time it had

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that sound to it, and he
said it was unnerving because you could tell

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it was massive. The scene was
massive, felt footsteps in the ground.

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It circled the second time and it
stopped behind the tree stump, and they

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heard the tree stump moving rolling in
the gravel, and they could feel it

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being rocked and pushed because of the
weight of it in the ground. They're

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not that far from this thing,
so they're like, is this thing going

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to smash us with the tree stump? And Penelope said, screw this.

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Oh zips up the tent and just
shoots out the door the opposite direction of

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this thing. He's just shooting high
out the doors. Let's a bunch of

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rounds fly at their ten round box
mag or whatever and splash buns. There's

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just all sorts of sound that happens
on both sides of the river at this

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point. So they're both like boys, shit. So they get out,

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they crawl out, they beam around, and they don't see nothing that happening.

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They felt eerie enough that they took
what they could. They left the

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tip there. They got in the
skiff and they used the battery life left

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on that spotlight to putter their butts
and stay in the channel to get back

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down to Kliganik. And they camped
out on the landing at Kligannik there.

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And this is not unique to me, It's not unique to them. Nicko.

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Like Chris, that photographer several fishing
game warns, I wish they would

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cut board and speak because they I'm
sure they've seen just as much shit it

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not more than me a little something
about what I exactly know. I am

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not no expert, I'm not a
researcher. I am simply First Nations Alaska

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native that has had these encounters and
experiences and never talked about it until just

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the last couple of years. In
our culture, we don't share, we

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don't spread it out. It stays
in our community. It's part of our

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oral history. When I'm speaking on
these things so nonchalantly, it's because that's

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how it is out there in the
bush. These things happen periodically. You'll

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have a hairy man's scream at you, You'll have something thrown at you as

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you're walking down a mountain trail.
It happens all the time, but it's

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never talked about, especially in our
culture. Now, there's people that have

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had Alaskan experiences that have shared elsewhere. I'm from Alaska, I've shared it

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elsewhere, but a lot of First
Nations don't. That's because it's not in

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our culture. We don't go squatching. A matter of fact, that one

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I saw by the Mannacota trail,
it made a wooden knock sound with his

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mouth. It didn't bang two sticks
together. It made like a tongue pop

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and it sounded like two Louisville slungers
hitting each other. So what do you

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do with that? I don't know
by no means of my an expert.

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I've just had circumstances happen from the
places I bear, and that give me

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a different outlook on it, because
for us, it's not a matter of

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proving anything. There's nothing to be
proven. It's just as relevant as moose,

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barrier, wolverine, caribou. It
is just as relevant. It's the

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outside world that doesn't accept it.
Doesn't accept it because someone with a fancy

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piece of paper didn't say it was
And that's on them. I can't change

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that. They can sit there in
their Ivy League school that's less than two

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hundred years old and try to dictate
something that has been passed down orally for

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tens of thousands of years through the
first nations. They dismiss it. Oh,

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it's there, metos, it's this, that's that. Okay, fair

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enough, But until you have experienced
it, a lot of non believers won't

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they won't believe it. Understandable,
But understand, when I'm speaking of these

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things, it's not that I live
in some fairy tale land in my head

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or some bullshit like that. I'm
very saying these things are happening constantly in

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a remote village. And when I
say constantly, I mean every time someone

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goes outside. I'm saying it happens
with such relative frequency. There's why report

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it. You leave the village,
something screams at you, you make it

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home. That's daily life, not
literally every day, but that's part of

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life in the remote Alaska. Weird
stuff all the time. You know how

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many UFOs sightings have been shared with
me from just between New Studio Hawk and

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Koligany. Literally, I already have
several handfuls of just those encounters of seeing

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a UFO in these very remote places
in Alaska. There's so much going on

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that we have no clue. Understand, I'm not trying to sound like I'm

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some authoritative voice and I know all
this. What I'm sharing is what I

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know, and I don't know squad. I'm not an expert, seeing their

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checks several times, scenes what they
would call structures, seeing these things running,

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doing all sorts of different various things. But it's by default. It's

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not unique to me. There's so
many people in Kalignik New Studio, Hawk

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back Home and dilling here, Elecni
Gick, several lodges in through the wood

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Chick Chicks State Park. It just
doesn't get spoken about, so no one

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knows that this stuff is going on. So when you hear someone like me

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just spouting so nonchalantly about it,
it could give you the wrong idea.

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And maybe I know something others don't. I don't know shit. What I

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do know is what I've experienced,
and what I've experienced has been aggression,

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cunning. The level of cunning these
things have is unreal to mock a baby,

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to lure someone else. So what
I'm getting at is I'm not an

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expert on anything. I am only
sharing what I've dealt with and what others

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are sharing with me. If I
had come across like I'm some expert on

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something. I apologize. I'm just
sharing what I know, and honestly,

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in the big scheme of things I
don't know, squad, I can tell

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you they shake stuff, they break
stuff, and they throw stuff. That's

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not a wealth of knowledge. You
understand. I'm only nonchalant about it because

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I've accepted it. I've seen it. It's just part of what's going on

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out there. It's what it is. This has been Fred and Will asking.

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I appreciate your time, and you're
listening. They say you don't gotta

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go home, but you can't stay
outside steps chart this chart, that chart,

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everything calling right back, right back
Joy for me, Joy, stay

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right, come it right away,
still still stay sast don't doubts, sasstssts

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things, muss things