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You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience
podcast. Oh no, it's hello,

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La, Hire we go. What
a great welcome past. It's the only

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one that breaks the firehouse kitchen table. We had to kitch your table going

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on here and appreciate we're pumbling Mike
into permission right before the show. We

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had to kitch your table going on. Sorry, let slip that right in

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there. Sorry. Welcome back,
Welcome back, Welcome back. I got

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a guy who got on nineteen sixty
two. I love these guys. Eighty

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four years old. Is attack of
crying that lot. I was gonna tell

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him we got to get him on
here soon. You know what I mean.

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He's still married. TikTok TikTok.
Hooked him up with my mother.

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It's gonna be eighty five. He's
he's ready to go. I think,

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yes, yes, hold on,
yeah, Well hook him up with the

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first time. He found a guy
who actually worked with my father in seventeen

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engine bro. I've been striking out
every single time you get a guy on,

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like nope, you were starting to
think the member starting to talk,

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you know, starting to talk like
it was something wrong with me, right,

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Like maybe I every numbers back wins. I don't know what we were

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dealing with the old every time he
has somebody a little too long, you

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gotta dan. But the captain.
Captain did remember my father transferred to He

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remembered the whole nine goats. So
I'll talk to him about on it.

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We will. Hey, Mike,
I don't know what Mike's doing in Mike

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wasn't nicking, thank god, thank
god. Yeah, maybe he was watching

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a cop show and you know,
something like that going on. I don't

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know what's going on. That's what
sounded like. It was quick. But

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anyway, I got I just finished
locking up all the silver with because I

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got Gonzo and Jose coming up uh
to stay with me over the weekend,

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so I had to secure all the
valuables. You know, get Porter Ricans

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coming up. He don't whoa,
whoa. I don't know. I didn't

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even go missing, you know,
sound effects. Now, look here here

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we go talking about God. I
don't know unless you're hurt. I'm only

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a little bit of Spanish. Yeah, what side you decide that steals all

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the jewelry or what's up? You
know, if it's free, it's for

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me. You know, fight was
a fight. I don't know. You

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have to come up papers. Uh
going to get them papers. We got

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to get our guests in here.
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you know it's gonna be my third
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I hook him up with my mother. I think he's liking it. He's

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smiled, smiles back there, he's
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let's bring him in. Rook,
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how you are? You ready?
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Coming to the stage, Captain Joe
says, so do you think,

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captain, how are you doing to
night? You guys doing well? Thank

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you, Thank you for coming on. So I never knew you were so

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handsome, you know, wow,
thank you? But I'll see that later.

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You should see my mother. Did
you get somehow? I gotta be

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careful, you know, I can't
divulge too many secrets. I hear what

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you're saying. A man of mystery. He's a man of mystery. That

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captain says. Are we gotta get
patriotic real quick? Here we go.

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I pleasurely to the flag of the
United States of America and to the Republic

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for which it stands, One nation
under God, indivisible with liberty and justice

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for all. Yeah. But you
guys in the chat too, who we're

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going to see on Monday. They're
coming down to pay their respect to two

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eighty eight Darren Phillips coming away from
Canada. A whole bunch of guys.

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We'll go out for a few drinks. And the first person that comes to

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me and you can tell me exactly
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is on me, bro. So
come up with whatever the coefficient is when

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you see me, and you'll win
a round the drinks. All right,

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All right, all right, kat
Well, welcome to the show. Thanks

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for coming on. Like I said
before, uh, let's go back back

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because you got on the sixth back. But before you got on. Let's

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say, let's get a little the
old where you grew up a little about

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your childhood, what made you want
to be a five man, etcetera,

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etcetera, etcetera. Well, let
me see, I was born in nineteen

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thirty nine, and I grew up
like as a kid. During the war,

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I heard all the more stuff on
the radio. I has heard about

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the Japs in the Nazis and this
sat and the other thing. And I

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started grammar school in forty five,
graduated grammar school in fifty three. I

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went to beat to the pre seminary
in the Brooklyn on Washington and Atlantic Avenue

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for two years, and then I
decided that I didn't think I would make

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a good priest. So you liked
this too, that's something to do with

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it. We never once man's poison. Wow, I didn't know that.

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I went to this high school.
The last two years in the Bronx Saint

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Helen's High School. So I went
two years in Lebronx. There I got

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out of high school. I had
a hair up my ass. I couldn't

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go back to I couldn't go to
any more school. I was finished with

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it. So I have to me
and my friends bought a car. We

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bought a fifty one Chevy station Wagon, ripped out those back seats and make

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a camper out of it. We
traveled a whole United States. I wasn't

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gonna ranch in the in the Rocky
Mountains, worked picking peaches and Paradise Valley,

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Colorado. I worked in a department
store in LA And one morning I

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wake up and the guys say to
me, we always did everything by majority

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rules. It was three of us. I wake up. We lived in

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Labria, by the Labria top pits, and they said, we're joining the

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Marines today. And I said,
screw you, guys, I joined the

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freaking Marange. What do you think
I'm crazy? You know? So so

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they say, sorry, you're out
vot. You gotta join Marines. So

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you got down to join Marines.
And Marines and says, well, we'd

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love to have you guys, and
the quote you can will take you for

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six months, and you can do
six years the weekends and and and and

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uh two weeks in the summer for
six years. So we didn't like that

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deal. So he's we said no. So then they he says, well,

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I got a friend in the army. He might take you. He

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was a real school guy. So
he send us down to the Army.

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I got down to the Army with
these guys. The army guy takes us.

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So we got down for induction,
and I passed my physical and everything,

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and I'm up there and they I
crossed the line, raised my hand.

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I'm looking around for my buddies.
Nither one of them could get in

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the freaking army. I'm the only
guy who didn't. All right out of

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there, and I'm I'm winging my
way to Ford in California. Didn't know

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ship from SHANEO or about nothing.
Man, So I ended up in a

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freaking army. Dude. That is
hilarious. So all the guys that wanted

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to go into the service, none
of them went into the service. The

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one guy caught up with me,
Billy Dietrich, who became a deputy chief

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in the job in the sixth Division. He was with me. He caught

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up in me a little while later. So I'll tell you about the army.

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So I wasn't I was used to, you know what I mean,

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the brothers in school and all that
stuff. He used to wrap us around

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and treat us a little shambley.
But Anyhow, I get these sergeants.

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They wake us up for REBELI about
five o'clock in the morning, it's about

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October fifteenth. Were standing out there, pitch black, big black colored guy,

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really really tough, tough man,
and he cursed and coursed and curse

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and he says, h he says, all right, oh, your motherfucker's

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He says, I want you to
look up at the sky and it's just

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you see that light going across that
sky. And we all looked up and

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it was like a star. This
is nineteen fifty seven. Now the star

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going across the sky very very slowly. You know what that is? He's

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telling us. You know what that
is. That's a fucking Sputnik sput We

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didn't know what Sputnik was. He
says, that's the motherfuck the Russians,

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and they're gonna bomb the shit out
of us. You better be ready and

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you better pay attention here. And
this is bootcam. So that's how my

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bootcamp started out. Soh my god, it's awesome. So anyhow, I

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went through when I went there,
and I I went down to Fort Gordon,

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Georgia and went to MP school and
then uh, they shipped my ass

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from them Fort Gordon too. Germany
sent me over to Germany and I worked

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in in the headquarters in Germany in
the in the crypto room. I had

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a top ultra secret clearance in the
scripto room, and I had a gun

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and if anybody come in, I
had to shoot them. But nobody ever

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came in. So you got that
going for you. Yeah, yeah,

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So I don't like that job too
much. So I what year were in

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Germany? Cap What year was that? Fifty eight to sixty? I was

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there twenty nine, thirty thirty months
was it still you know from the walled

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it was just starting to be rebuilt. It was great as holes. All

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the buildings were collapsed. Nobody everybody
walked the road. Bicycles there was,

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and they were picking up bricks off
the street and piling them up and taking

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them places to build homes and stuff
like that. They didn't have many cars

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anyhow. So I transferred to a
company battalion MP battalion that did patrol work

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rather than the headquarters. And I
was very fortunate. I was eighteen years

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old. They gave me a brand
new nineteen fifty seven Chevy and the German

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policeman as a partner and put me
on the auto barn as a highway patrolman.

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Can you imagine that stoop A little
kid just out of high school about

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six months and I'm the highway patroma
and a brand new Chevy riding the auto

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barn in Germany. I had a
ball. All I did was scraped bodies

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off the freaking paper. They couldn't
drive over there because they didn't have cars

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for years. They were just getting
the cars, and they drove one hundred

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freaking fifty miles an hour. The
mortal bonds were. They were banned now,

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but that terrible and all I used
to do was crash into each other.

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They were killing each other left and
right over there at that time.

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So that was one of my jobs. I did that for a while.

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Then they was black lieutenant. Name
was linwood Cott Hill Hartman. They just

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got out of that college in DC
that it's a very good college that I

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can't think of the name of it. But anyhow town, no, no,

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Howard Howard University, Okay, Howard
University. So they made me,

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made me drive him and our job. They had missions. The Russians had

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missions in Heidelberg because that was the
United States headquarters, and we had missions

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in Berlin and the uh with the
Russian part of Berlin, and in Moscow,

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and so these guys were nothing but
spies. And they had they had

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this big black Russian limousine with the
hammer and sickle on the back of it.

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And we had to go out and
sit in front of the where they

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lived in the morning. And when
they come out, we get me in

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Linwood. He called me Sahib Joe. I don't know what he called me

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joe, and he said, all
rights, these these Russians all around,

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all around all day, and we
were harassed them, you know, every

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time they stopped, we'd be right
there. We wouldn't let them go anywhere

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without being on their tail. So
I did that for a while. Then

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they sent me to Warns Germany,
and I was up there. That was

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fun, I would There was along
the Rhine River where the pattern and them

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guys crossed from Mets, Germany only
twelve years before. It was really a

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big, big, terrible battles crossing
the Rhine there. They had just built

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the bridge, rebuilt the bridge that
crossed the Rhine there, but the river

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banks were filled with shell holes like
the artillery shell holes and bomb holes eight

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ten feet deep just all over the
place, and they were in the ruin

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backs were inherited by these great big
rabbits hairs they had tall twelve years and

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we take the jeeps and we chased
the hairs that farm graders. That was

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great time over there. Of course, we had all lovely frau lines and

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oh nice had a little schnitzel,
is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah,

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they had. They had those wine
region there, so they had big,

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big wine festivals all the time and
beer festivals. So that was really

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good. Then I went back to
Mannheim, Germany, and I I just

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was more or less a town patrol
MP drive around, you know, gies

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up and bringing them home and all
that stuff. That stuff like that.

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So I did that all our traffic
about two and a half years. And

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then they put my ass on the
boat sent me back to America. I

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come back into It was beautiful July
summer day, my dream day, beautiful

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coming down. We passed up Ambrose
Lightship and I can see the Jones Beach

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water tower and you know, I
love Jones Beach when I was a kid.

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I saw that. I was just
so happy, man, I was

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like it's like unbelievable. We pulled
into the the Brooklyn Army Terminal with the

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ship called in there, and when
I was doing the ship, I ripped

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my name tag off and I would
never answer any role calls or anything because

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I didn't want to do any job. So I would sleep on the deck

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summer times. To get it comes
to get off the ship to get discharged,

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they call my name and and and
they said, where the hell you've

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been? We hadn't seen you in
ten days. We've been looking all over

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for you. I said, I
don't know, I hear I never heard

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you call my name. So anyhow, so they tell you, They tell

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me, all right, you got
a choice we give you. I think

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it was fifteen cents a mile travel
to get from Brooklyn Army Terminal to your

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home of record. And my home
of record was New York City, so

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they would have gave me a subway
token, right, but your place of

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enlistment. My place of enlistment was
LA three thousand miles away. Nice.

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Look at that? Nice for sure? I want to go back to my

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hot place of enlistening. Pay me
so nice. I don't know how much

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it was, but three thousand times
a couple of bucks sent for something.

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But anyhow, it is the fifteenth
cent ride hot back to Flushing and I

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was home. Yeah, with a
few extra shekels they dressing. I went

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to work for Italian guy in Corona, mixing cement for a couple of months.

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And we had a hurricane in September
and it's flushing the cemetery. The

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place was devastating and they needed clean
up cruise. So I went to the

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cemetery and got a job cleaning up
after that. It was a temporary job

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cleaning up after the hurricane, but
the guy they liked me, so he

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says, you want to stay on
as a jobs I stayed there. I

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stayed for thirteen months as a grave
digger, so I dug graves there for

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thirteen months. Then I got on
the cops. I took the cops tests

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in the fireman's test about two or
three weeks apart. The cops called me

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in no time, so I went
on the police department and I lasted a

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year on them. Well, the
fire department called me in June, but

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I turned it down because I sort
of like being a cop, you know.

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And then by July I decided maybe
I don't like being the cop.

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You know. One of the reasons
was I was working on the west side

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and house kitchen and it's the daytime. Some guys comes up to me and

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says, oh, just smoked.
They're smoke in the building up there.

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Like I run up and being a
you know, a cop hero like break

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down the door and I run in. But I don't know nothing about smoking

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nothing, right if I'm leophyte with
this scrap. But the guy in the

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apartment was had had filled it up
with sulfa candles to kill all the roaches.

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Roaches, yeah yeah, do you
ever get you ever get a feed

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of sulfa candles? Oh? Yeah, good? I mean it was just

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show me the death of two seconds. I stumbled out of an apartment,

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fell halfway down the stairs, and
I says, ah, man, this

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this sucks. The fireman come running
in. Boom, boom boom. They

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did that in two seconds. They
had it taken care of. So I

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was watching them. I seeing a
few flyers there when I was a coping

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right, and I see these guys
are doing all right. I like that.

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I like this style, so so
I put my name back on the

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list. So instead of going in
June. I went in in October.

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I don't even lost about four months
or five months, I don't know,

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not that much. Did you did
you tell him? I did I tell

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him what I was doing it?
Doing it? Who bro, No,

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I'm potentially keeping it low. I
don't want to scare loom Cap What So

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that was nineteen what sixty two?
Sixty two? Yeah, October sixty two

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he got appointed. Right? How
long was probi school then? And what

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to like December twelve? Couple of
weeks right, yeah, Wait, did

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you have anybody on the job?
Did you know anybody on the I didn't

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know anybody. No. Wow,
look at that guy. That guy was

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a world traveler, slim and trim, kicking mp bro, he know how

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to do it. Yeah, guy
was picking peaches and yeah, slaying women

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California and then he was slaying women
and he was like my whole life.

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I was in probi school. They
had that collapse or the fat factory in

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Masmith. You might remember that's the
soap factory. Yeah. Yeah, they

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lost five and yeah they lost four
guys. The six guys get five guys,

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I think five guys. Yeah.
I was in probi school for that.

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So that they made a big deal
about that to make us learn,

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you know, well that was the
fire was out and then the marquee collapsed.

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Yeah, the whole thing fell down
on them. Yeah wow. Yeah.

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So and then I get out of
there and they sent me down to

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the Broom Street eighteen truck and Broom
Street, right at the foot of the

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Wiisburg Bridge. Yeah, they just
tare that building down. That's that's too

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long, ago called me. They
just tore that firehouse down. Not too

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long or did they tear it down? Yeah, the cops were using it

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for a while, and then they
just finally tore it down. One eight

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five Broom Street was the address,
right at the base of the Williamsburg Bridge,

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right, Yeah, except it wasn't
a towel out of back then,

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yea. And we used to get
those, uh, the wonderful spare riggs,

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you know those, and they were
they had wooden spring loaded ladders about

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eighty five feet or something maybe the
longest. And the tractors were nineteen thirty

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thirty two thirty three tractors. If
you're lucky you got a thirty eight nineteen

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thirty eight tractors. Some of them
had solid rubber wheels. You know,

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and you can never stop, and
god damn things. We just had to

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open the apprass doors and we'd all
get behind the thing. We pushed it,

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push the rig, push the rig
out, the lieutenant, everybody,

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we put just a chauffeur would be
you know. We pushed it out the

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doors and turn right, go down
Broom Street. Was the tiniest little bit

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of a hill, impercept of them, but it was enough, and it

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was just like, would get it
going going, and he popped the clutch.

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You never shut it down until you
get back to quarters. Could you

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imagine telling the guys nowadays that story. Could you imagine you gotta push it

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down the block? Could you half
a block before we could pop the clutch?

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Cap That was pretty crappy over there, big fifteen foot over hangs on

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the yeah, yeah, yeah,
right right, and you rode the sideboards.

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There was no seats running, and
the bell was in the middle.

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One guy rang the bell. How
how was the neighborhood back then? Cap?

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It was pretty crazy, right,
treacherous. It was the heroin capital

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of the city. I saw more
murders than I went the fires, and

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I saw a lot of fires,
believe me. In front of courters one

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day in Broome Street right now,
summer, like sitting there horse shit and

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watching the the girls go by or
whatever was going by. They were just

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beginning to get there. They were
getting them in plants about that time.

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So they look at his broad over
here with the tenement across the street.

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And later on that tenement was used
in the Urban Cowboy movie they filmed in

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it, but it was occupied.
This day, it was still occupied.

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There was a guy on the first
boutany the fire escape and his girlfriend right

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it's right across the street. We're
looking up at him and they're arguing.

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There was Spanish. The argument like
Helen Spanish. This guy takes a machetti

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and he shots. He rom off
at the shoulder. Oh God, picks

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her up and he throws her up
the fire escape into Broome Street. That's

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what it was like down then.
It was crazy man. That's crazy man.

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Yeah. How what was the work
like? How long before you caught

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your first job? When you were
there? My first job I caught down

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there by weight down, real low
reach side down by sort of just above

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the Fulton Fish Market, towards sort
of by the Manhattan Bridge a little,

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I guess it would be Eastern Manhattan
Bridge. You ten minute or something.

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I didn't know what the hell I
was doing. I don't know. I

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know there was they were dragging me
around in the smoke. I don't know.

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Yeah, put a whole here,
put a whole break that window.

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Do this. Well, I got
into it after a while. You know,

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cap who was some of the guys
you remember, like who was your

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boss? Is there that you that
you remember? Well? If you can

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remember him, I can remember him. Yeah, Beatman who became the August

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Yeah, gush, Yeah, he
was the captain of seventeen engine and then

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he became a battalion chief and came
back to the battalion. Uh Ray Gimler

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was the captain of seventeen engine after
him, and he was a great guy.

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He was a patriotic guy. He
ran all the support the guy in

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Vietnam parades up fifteen and you went
everything. The captain of the truck was

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Walter Bourbon. And we had I
can name the lieutenants, Murretta, Maretta,

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I remember Murretta. And there was
so many lieutenants. But anyhow,

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was there a senior guy there that
kind of there was a there was a

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senior the guy was a couple of
senior guys that were good in the in

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the in the truck and in the
engine. There was a couple of senior

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guys to two Jewish guys, Maxie
Rutter and David Cohen. They had been

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there since nineteen since the war ended. Was a vote in the war.

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Maxie Rutter was standing on the deck
of the Missouri when they signed that the

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the world the Jacks signed the thing, and he has a he had a

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picture of it, and then you
could see him. He was a sailor.

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He was all he's there. So
those those two guys are really really

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good guys or lower recited Jews.
They came from the area. They knew

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everybody. They could get anything you
wanted. They were great, great guys.

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We had a one guy in the
in the truck and he was a

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big polart guy and he was he
didn't like he didn't like ProBiS, he

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didn't like young punks and he were
to arrest the it out of you,

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you know. Yeah, And then
we had other guys Manny Syracuse, he

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was he was a senior guy.
He was good. And Amiel Pagano was

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another one. He was great.
And when I when I get there,

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as I probably, they told me
they gave me like a big five gallon

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can of whitewash. And I'm brushing
about eight to tenants brush and I said,

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you got a whitewash the seller.
That's that's your job, kid,

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you know. And and I went
down and I was whitewashing. And so,

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I mean, it's a big,
huge double firehousing. And I was

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whitewashing and sellar every time I went
to work down there, and down there.

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One day I got I know,
I got maybe halfway through it,

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and I said, this is bullshit. I ain't doing this. So so

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I stopped. And nobody ever said
anything to me. You're gonna last white.

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Let's see if this kid's gonna actually
go down there and do this.

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Let's see how long we get this
guy to do this? How was that

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guy will blay that cap? How
was that guy Kobla? He was one

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of the engine guys. They were
all good guys. They treated me nice.

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They were they were love of the
guys. Seventeen Engine were perfect.

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They were great. I loved them
guys. You hated to see when a

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guy left you, you thought you
were getting abandoned. You know what what

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are you leaving for? You know
this? This is great? You take

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it personal almost right? Yeah?
Yeah? Did you work with a lot

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of World War Two guys? Cap, h You work with a lot of

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World War two guys. Oh,
they were all World War two guys,

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been right. One of the MPOs, the seventeen engine, Bob Scolone.

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He was a belly gunner and then
beat seventeens and that over in Europe.

408
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.720
That guy he was never said nothing
to just sit at the kitchen table and

409
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:57.480
drink off and smoke cigarettes. He
was someplace else. Yeah, he survived

410
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.440
the war. I don't know how
many missions he did, but he was

411
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.279
a great, great guy. And
he he became a chief, you know.

412
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.920
And I think his son was on
the jar too. Not positive,

413
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:13.440
but he became a chief out on
White Corse Street at someplace out there in

414
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:17.599
Brooklyn. Mikey Baron was there too, right, Cap. Mikey Barron was

415
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.640
Yeah, he came just there to
me, Mikey. He was a good

416
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.440
guy. I work with him.
Who else? I mean, I can

417
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.559
name all of them guys that you
probably know. Mikey Barron was great.

418
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:35.079
Jowey McWilliams, Joey Mcwilliams' son is
one of the guys who was putting the

419
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.640
flag up down at the World Trade
Center with that famous picture. Oh yeah,

420
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.359
yeah, yeah, right right right, right, yeah, Well his

421
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:46.799
father was me. Were buddies there. So you do almost ten years in

422
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.079
the truck, right, and then
I put it Yeah, well I was

423
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.759
there twelve years in the truck.
I was only in the engine for a

424
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.839
month or two because one of the
what happened was in the nineteen seventy three

425
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:02.920
I was supposed to get promoted and
and they called it off for two weeks.

426
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:09.360
So so now I'm supposed to get
promoted. November fourth, November thirty,

427
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:15.960
we went on strike. The fight
apartment, the UFA went on strike.

428
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.960
So I was supposed to get promoted
the next morning. So you know,

429
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.559
nobody says anything. I go down
there with my wife, my kids,

430
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:28.400
my family, down to the eleventh
floor in the all municipal building and

431
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.079
there's a whole bunch of other people. They are similarly like me, and

432
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.840
they say, what are you doing
here? What are you doing here?

433
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:36.239
And we said, we come down
to get promoted. Nobody called you,

434
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:42.760
Nobody told you it was Oh my
god, yeah, it's terrible. That's

435
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.639
horrible to there, you know,
and all the other people. The women

436
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.760
went crazy, they started screaming and
yelling. Finally the guy ran and he

437
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:52.079
got some big chief. I don't
know who the big chief was, I

438
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.960
don't remember. And he came out
and he was very stern. He says,

439
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.400
there's no promotions today. Leave and
he kicked us all off, kicked

440
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:06.760
everybody out of the headquarters. And
then we were still on Broome Street then.

441
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.960
And then right after that, I
think December six, that was like

442
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:17.960
November fourth, December six, we
moved into Fort pitt On down there on

443
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.639
pitt Street, and and then one
of the guys who wanted to go to

444
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.639
the truck, so I went across
the floor for that time. It was

445
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.000
only six weeks. I think I
was in the engine. I don't know,

446
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:31.840
but we are always in the engine. We worked, you know,

447
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.159
across the floor all the time.
Yeah, but you were there during the

448
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.440
layoffs then two. No, it's
up in the Bronx during the layoffs.

449
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.800
Okay, that they came in seventy
five, July seventy five, they came.

450
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.280
Oh you got promoted in January of
seventy four, right, right,

451
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.880
Yeah, So that. Then I
covered a little bit in Brooklyn Knife Battalion

452
00:35:54.960 --> 00:36:00.400
and Brooklyn very short. I had
a little wait, so I got six

453
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.440
two you know truck. And that
was great because all of them good guys

454
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.199
who are up there. John O'Regan
who wrote Lot of three, Vinnie Done

455
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:15.000
you know, never heard him.
Yeah, now that that rig was in,

456
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.320
they were all in quarters with each
other. Twenty six, twenty six,

457
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.679
two fifty eight they were all in. Yeah. We had a towel

458
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.880
out there, and they had a
remount and UH and fifty eight had the

459
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:34.079
engine and the officers there were and
the engine. The engine was Ray Donny

460
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:40.320
I was in the truck. Wow. Uh, let's see Lottery Fitzpatrick was

461
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:45.360
in the truck. He got killed
up in the UH in nineteen eighty.

462
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:51.440
Yeah, I'm trying to think who
else. There was a lot of pretty

463
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.159
famous Donny Hayde up there at that
time. No, not that I know,

464
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:59.039
he wasn't there at that time,
probably after, but yeah, Billy

465
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:02.599
Ryan was there. He became captain
and Rescue three. Very Yellow was there.

466
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.400
He was a lieutenant, but he
got hurt and he got out of

467
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:13.400
the job. Josh would again he
ever hears George McCain. I've heard of

468
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.960
it. Yeah, I've heard of
He was twenty five truck captain. There's

469
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.679
you can get to write a book
about that guy. He was such a

470
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:30.599
screwball, but good fireman, probably
Grace. When he was a fireman,

471
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.480
he got locked up with a Bronx
River for catching Canadian geese and pulling their

472
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.239
feathers out because he wanted to make
a freaking sleeping bag. And the maid

473
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:45.000
was on the front page of the
news. Fireman arrested. Oh my goodness,

474
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.000
that's a little screwy. That's a
little screwyt Yeah. The only way

475
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:53.079
back in the sixties, So twenty
six two, how would they how would

476
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.639
they divide the runs? I mean, you guys, just for all in

477
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:01.360
the you would have alternate day.
It's first stop. One day we'd be

478
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:07.920
first, first s up, and
we go out first. It was very

479
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.239
busy, so it didn't really make
much something If if we were first s

480
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.880
up, we'd go out to a
box and you know, ten minutes later

481
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.639
they were out in another box.
You know, it's just back and forth

482
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.599
like that. But that's what it
was, was alternate days. You would

483
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.440
go like that was it was.
It just as busy as eighteen or was

484
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.000
it more Did you feel like it
was more busy up there at the time

485
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:35.400
in your career, Well, there
was eighteen truck at the end down there.

486
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:37.159
They were doing eight or nine thousand
runs a year when I when I

487
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:43.480
finished, you know, I don't
know, I don't know about at least

488
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:47.960
you know, around nineteen seventy we
were really way up there. Twenty six

489
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.280
trucks seemed to have more fires.
You know, it was a bigger area,

490
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:59.320
and they had a lot of trouble
up there because they had the the

491
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.239
Black mus on the headquarters on one
hundred and sixteenth Street there, and they

492
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:07.800
were always causing problems. You know, it was always troubled fires this that

493
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.760
a lot of fires up there.
They've been in that same fire house the

494
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:15.679
whole time. Cap that one right
into projects there is that well date,

495
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:22.519
I know that they had the old
fire houses and they built that one probably

496
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:29.320
around and in the early maybe early
early sixties, maybe nineteen sixty or something

497
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:31.599
like that. I don't know,
but it was it wasn't brand new when

498
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.840
I was there, but it was
you know, relatively new. Yeah,

499
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.079
yeah, yeah, yeah. Fifty
eight had a single house and twenty six

500
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:44.079
side of single house some place I
don't know where they were, all right,

501
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.880
and that was it's a pretty pretty
good place over there. We had

502
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:52.000
a lot of well you must have
had a lot of laughs too, because

503
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:53.960
having so many guys in, you
know, working at that time, right,

504
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:58.639
it's crazy. We had Johnson,
you know that the firehouse cookbook guy.

505
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:00.159
You know, yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right,

506
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.320
and him and he was always cooking, wanting to cook, cook, cook,

507
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:06.480
cook, And there was all the
other guys who wanted to cook.

508
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:08.199
And they would fight and then once
in a while the other guy make a

509
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:14.239
meal and and and they said he's
better than Sanino, and Saneo get pissed

510
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.199
off, you know, and you
know, and they'd fight back and forth.

511
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:21.679
It was crazy. Angelo Pernicon was
the guy he used to fight with.

512
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.800
Angelo cas Angelo liked to cook too. Would you say that was like

513
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:31.159
the craziest time for the city like
that? That seventy four seventy five was

514
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:36.599
that the the Bronx was was really
when it took off, Well, the

515
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:43.320
lower reast side was absolutely insane.
But Avery ABCD twenty eight, Yeah,

516
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.079
yeah, yeah, Alphabette City there, Yeah, yeah, Fourth battalion was

517
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.599
out of sight, out of sight. I used to go four or five

518
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:52.880
little hands at night down there,
you know, all the time, all

519
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.760
the time, you know. And
they had they had these gangs, Puerto

520
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:01.800
Rican gangs down there. They hated
us, and they were blocked, you

521
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.440
know. But set a car fire, you go down the block, they

522
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.039
block off the They throw two ay
dvs, one of each ends that are

523
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:15.559
blocked blocking in. Then they all
be in the roofs, thrown refrigerators,

524
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.400
ash cans, ti roof tiles.
And then I used to shoot out us.

525
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:23.480
They all right, everybody inside,
small on this fire, you know.

526
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:27.599
So would everybody run in the buildings
And then they say, all right,

527
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.679
everybody out, it's only bricks and
bottles to get. Could you imagine

528
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:35.039
the bottles? Can you imagine the
guys today? I mean, could you

529
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:46.159
imagine running for the space. Oh
my god, I'm offended. Oh my

530
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.039
God, Almighty give me strength.
So you stayed there until they disbanded them.

531
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.360
Oh no, not was Bricks and
bot That was the Lower East cent

532
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:58.559
I was thrown about the bricks and
Bottles in twenty six struck. I stayed

533
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:02.280
there. They disbanded the company.
Uh and and the budget cuts because it's

534
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:06.679
seventy five. That's when they were
getting getting ready to lay off. And

535
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.039
Beam was the mayor and the city
was broken ship, you know, and

536
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:15.639
so they were they were doing away
with the second sections, the twenty six

537
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:23.000
two, twenty seven two, and
then all them one o three, they

538
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:28.280
were doing away with him. That
like one of the last days in twenty

539
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.920
six two, we got a second
or third along the Second Avenue on about

540
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:36.880
one hundred and I don't know,
fifteenth Street or something, and it was

541
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:45.280
a really bad fire. And when
one of the one of the apartments when

542
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:46.719
it blew, you know, I
don't know what I'm blue, but it

543
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.440
blue the air conditioner out of the
front window all the way across Second Avenue,

544
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:54.960
through a window across the street in
the tenement across the street. But

545
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:59.199
anyhow, this fire, it was
murdered, so we put it out and

546
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.599
everything you go home. When you're
watching on news channel four, it was

547
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:09.800
this little blonde head cuty and who
was coming and she was up there reporting

548
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:15.639
on this fire, and she accused
us of setting the fire because we didn't

549
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:21.480
want to get disbanded. On the
evening news. Can you imagine accusing us

550
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:30.920
of setting the fire fake news back
then, true to NBC you get that

551
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:35.280
name. But Cap, did you
know that you were getting disbanded? Did

552
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.079
you know that it was happening beforehand? You know, it's not what you

553
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.840
can do about it. You know, how long beforehand do you think?

554
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.559
Did you did? I don't know, two or three weeks or not?

555
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.639
Not warm? And they just said, where do you want to go?

556
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:52.320
Or they stuck yourself? They sent
me the fireman pretty much got it,

557
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.119
you know, they stayed in hall
them. They sent me to the tenth

558
00:43:55.199 --> 00:44:04.360
Battalion and I was there very shortly. But it's another good story covering in

559
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:08.920
the tenth battalion. So I'm surplus
stay tour. Right, it's winter.

560
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:12.559
So I call him up the night
before. You wanted to want me to

561
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:14.840
do. We didn't want me to
go blah blah, that's what you did.

562
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:15.920
And they tell you go to this
truck, go to that engine.

563
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:22.360
And they says, well, report
the battalion headquarters because there's no vacancies and

564
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.400
just come in and hang out there. Right, So it's snowing like crazy.

565
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:34.719
I drive into Manhattan and I parked
the car and I go in and

566
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:36.880
they said, oh, didn't they
call you? I said, no,

567
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.159
nobody call me. He said,
you gotta go to Coney Island during m

568
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:45.199
on the fifth Street and I gotta
go to Tony Island. You know,

569
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:51.800
sure drive. So I call up
the guy in Coney Island. I saiy,

570
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.039
look like Lou, I says,
I'm your relief. They just told

571
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.639
me now. And I'm on the
east side of Manhattan and eighty fifth Street.

572
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.519
I said, I don't know how
long it's gonna take me to get

573
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.639
there. I'll get there as soon
as I can, but God knows with

574
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.880
the snowstorm and everything. Right,
Yeah, I drive, I drive there.

575
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.440
It takes me about two two and
a half hours. I get to

576
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.800
Coney Island. The guy was happy
he got over time. So I'm sitting

577
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:17.360
in the kitchen having a couple of
coffee and it's his chief and then he

578
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:23.199
was Birmingham. I'm not gonna get
a little fat bastard. He comes down

579
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:28.079
to the kitchen and he says,
who's the truck officer. I says,

580
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.559
I am. He says, you
get up right now and go, oh

581
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.199
no, it was the engine officer. I'm sorry, who's the engine officer?

582
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.519
I say, it's me. He
says, you get up right now

583
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.400
and go over to Coney Island Hospital
and vacated. Do you ever see Coney

584
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:46.159
Island Hospital. It's Jake Bunda.
It's like it's five stare blocks stories and

585
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:52.320
the spill of Brooklyn Jews sick and
it's a blizzard. And he wants me

586
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.639
to go over there and put them
all out in the front lawn and then

587
00:45:54.760 --> 00:46:00.679
vacated because they got night for selling
those X rays in the basement, and

588
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.519
they got a big pile of night
to sell your those X rays in a

589
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:07.360
basement and it's a very dangerous condition. You go down and get him out.

590
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.480
And I said to him, I
said, chief, I says,

591
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.559
I'm not having my picture on the
front page of the news tomorrow. Stupid

592
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:20.239
fireman puts four hundred Jews on the
front lawn in a blizzard. I says,

593
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.639
I ain't doing that. You can
call a deputy, you can call

594
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.320
a commissioner, you can call relone, but I ain't doing it. Yeah,

595
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:31.440
I've heard that before, so I
didn't do it. He got all

596
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:36.719
shook up and he gets the deputy
to come over and and then the deputy

597
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.320
says, why isn't you crazy you
can't do that, you know. He

598
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:43.840
says, let's just go over there
and see what's going on. So we

599
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:45.400
took the truck in the engine.
We went over there and shut and crap

600
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:50.800
in a basement. It was I
mean, how to be thirty feet around,

601
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.400
all the whole x rays all piled
up. It was dangerous, but

602
00:46:53.519 --> 00:47:00.360
it was a you know, fireproof
basement and everything. And he says,

603
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.719
all right, charge a line,
which would have done nothing because if not

604
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.679
to sell you goes goes off.
You can't put it out with water creates

605
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.119
its own oxygen. You can't put
a night to sell you those fire out

606
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.559
with water. And we all knew
that, but we're putting on a show.

607
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.760
So he says, get the main
maintenance manager and the manager at the

608
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:23.039
hospitals. So this guy comes down
and it's a Jewish guy. Get a

609
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:30.360
Jewish name and everything and so and
the yelling at him and everything, and

610
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.000
he gets me. He says,
hey, he says, I'm retired fire

611
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:40.880
Marshal. I said, oh shit. I says, well, what can

612
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:45.920
we do here? So I cooked
up a story with him and we went

613
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.199
to the dept. And I says, this is on and he's retired from

614
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.920
the job. He's a fire marshal. He knows what he's doing, and

615
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:59.159
he has a vendor who he has
coming to take this and he'll just tell

616
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:04.360
him to come fourthwith and get rid
of this stuff. And he says,

617
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.519
and I said, in the meantime, I'll sit here with a charge line

618
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.320
until a vendor gets here and starts
to removing it. And so that's how

619
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:15.400
we solved that problem. Any But
I didn't get my picture in the paper

620
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:21.880
or anyhow. That's such a weird
scenario, too, right, I mean

621
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.239
how often. I mean, that's
such something you would never show up on,

622
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.880
like you know, you would never
respond to something like that. I

623
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.559
understand it's could have been there for
fifty years. Cap how long were they

624
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.280
there for? They could have been
there for all you know. I don't

625
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.920
know how long they would I don't
know nothing. I want to tell a

626
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.480
story about this chief. I have
it on my think from the fourth b

627
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.960
time Denny Shape he came. He
was he was there from the from the

628
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:45.920
forties, you know, now we're
in the sixties. He was an old

629
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:50.920
irishman. He lived on in our
old lawd tenement down there by the by

630
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.559
the Manhattan Bridge. But he was
a tough, tough burden. Everybody in

631
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:59.480
the job, all at higher ups
knew him. Everybody knew him, and

632
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.239
they knew when he said one and
one and the rest first. Even the

633
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:08.159
commissioner got out of bed and came. He would never ever give a second

634
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:13.159
along. They wouldn't, No matter
what happened, he wouldn't. He wouldn't

635
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.840
do it. And when we rolled
down there in seventeen engines, seventeen engine

636
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.400
had two pieces at that time.
I don't know if your dad ever told

637
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.280
you that, but they had a
pupper and a hose wagon. And he

638
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.000
used to get three and two in
the box, you know, three engines,

639
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:29.320
two trucks in the box, and
then plus some of them had the

640
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.519
hose wagons. So you're getting a
lot of appris. We're down there and

641
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:38.119
it's appeared burning, you know,
on fire. So we're all setting up

642
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:45.719
and everybody's everybody's working. Everybody's working, and Chase Chase drivers the guy named

643
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:50.800
nol Hard. Noel's Hard ultimately became
the chief of department and Gary, Indiana

644
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:55.360
years later. But anyhow, he's
driving, he's driving shape. Chase says

645
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.599
to him, No, he says, tell him, we're using one on

646
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:05.599
one. Plus we got a boat. You got Marin six on it.

647
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.400
The boats there too, and tell
them we're using one on one the rest

648
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:17.239
standing fast. Send another boat,
not send us an additional truck for an

649
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:23.400
additional engine. Send a boat.
That's that was a common I think that

650
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:27.360
that was probably a common thing though, right cap who uh you know you

651
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:31.119
don't want to You took pride and
using quote unquote less companies, right,

652
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:35.280
you know, that's that's that's what
he did. He wouldn't use anybody,

653
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:40.320
right right, right, Yeah,
that's funny, shit funny. So he

654
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:45.960
wound up in twenty seven truck after
they disband Uh yeah, I went there

655
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.679
and may. They had the layoffs
in July and I stayed there as a

656
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.840
lady too. That was another great
great spot there. That was wonderful.

657
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:59.480
What was that like over I can't
tell you the fires in that place.

658
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.039
We were all over the Bronx all
of and we had that seventy seven black

659
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.400
out there that was horrendous. Oh
my god, that was just that was

660
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.320
the one of the I thought the
world ended that night. I swear that

661
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:15.400
I was working. It was ninety
eight degrees and everything was burning. Everything

662
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:22.119
was burning, every block was every
freaking everything was burning. For a guy,

663
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.519
the guy who was in the Lower
East Side right in twenty six two,

664
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.840
that night, everything was burning.
I mean, is that incredible.

665
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:36.320
We were eating chicken. When we
were eating chicken, catch a tory when

666
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:37.440
the box come and we go out. The dream on there when you were

667
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.840
prom them back and the lights go
out, you know, all the traffic

668
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.480
lights and everything, and there was
a jewelry store on the corner. We

669
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.880
stopped at the light. When the
gang of people went up to the jewels

670
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.559
store, that scissor gates on it. They grabbed the scissor gates and they

671
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:59.679
pulled them off and they went in
and it looked like this in out right.

672
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.239
There wasn't one thing left in the
jewelry store, not not even a

673
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.800
piece of dust. They took everything
out of there in about two seconds while

674
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.360
I'm waiting for the light. So
I call him dispatcher, I send the

675
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:12.719
cops over here, blah blah blah, And they said, well, we

676
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.480
got a problem. When you gotta
blackout, he says, you gotta go

677
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.800
down to this post office on Brook
Avenue or someplace. There's a fire in

678
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.719
the post office. So all right, So we go down to the post

679
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.360
office and there's a guy standing in
front of the postal office with a pistol

680
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.679
and he's a postal inspector and he's
a big crowd around him. And they

681
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:35.199
went in and they were robbing the
post office and they set the bags of

682
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.719
mail on fire. Now he started
trying to hold him off. So we

683
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.840
go up there and we go knock
down. It wasn't much of a fire.

684
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:44.400
We knock it down fast, and
we tell him, can you lock

685
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:45.639
this place up? And lock it
up? And he says, I'm staying

686
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:49.119
here. I don't know if a
decade had a little you know, six

687
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:54.000
shot revolve. I says, when
we leave here, these guys are gonna

688
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:58.920
take that gun from you and shove
it up your ass. You better just

689
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.840
skip your face up, getting your
truck and get the hell out of here,

690
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.639
and and and and get out of
this burrow because the ship's sitting the

691
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.880
fan. Yeah, you know.
And from them, we just went from

692
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:15.920
one fire to one another's one another. It's one another and we were on

693
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:22.159
a fire. Up on says,
you're thinking we're cutting the roof and doing

694
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.639
the stuff. A big tax Fay
went around the corner. They mugged.

695
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:35.199
They mubbed the MPO and forty six
Enginess wild West, bro it's the wild

696
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:42.800
West? What ye was? Ten
companies and they mugged them. Can you

697
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:46.159
imagine that? No? I can't
imagine. I can't imagine. Imagine people.

698
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:51.719
What did they get from him?
The pocket? He had his wallet

699
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.000
or something? I don't know.
Maybe he didn't have a munching pumping the

700
00:53:55.079 --> 00:54:01.079
rig. Yeah, unbelievable. It
was a crazy night man, A good

701
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:04.719
time for that. Somebody wants to
know in the chat if you worked with

702
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:10.360
the Captain Crestio? I know him? Where? Did I know him?

703
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:15.039
Frohim? He was in seventeen two, right, Ruth? Yes, I

704
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.320
believe yes? And then he went
to Brooklyn. I think he was in

705
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:22.960
Brooklyn one that he was one of
seven he want to be a distributed Yes

706
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.639
did yeah? Yeah, I know
him. He looked This freaking guy remembers

707
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:30.079
everything. I can't remember what I
had for breakfast this morning. I know

708
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:35.159
we can remember every one of my
where my father Tradford two fifty years ago.

709
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:37.480
I don't know what I'm doing right
now. Just three seconds ago he

710
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:42.760
did. Cappy owned it it was
in mass but or Elmhurst actually right on

711
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.599
grand Dad right, yeah, yeah, I know him flush Yeah, we

712
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.800
had him on the show too.
It was it was great. Did you

713
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:53.960
did? I always wondering what happened? Then he said Florida too, Maybe

714
00:54:53.960 --> 00:55:00.440
we'll hook you guys up. Yeah, it's twenty seven, the one that's

715
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:06.320
right off the expressway there cross Bronx
Expressway Washington Avenue. Yeah. Great.

716
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:08.639
That had to be may I can't
even imagine. And you were a boss

717
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:13.800
there like that had to be Baham
there. I mean absolutely, Oh yeah,

718
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.119
that was a great place. Those
guys were superman. They all knew

719
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:21.159
exactly what to do and I had
a given order or nothing. I swear

720
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.199
to guard. It was. It
was a dream. It was a dream

721
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:29.559
place to work because these guys are
all salty old guys and uh, they

722
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:35.559
knew their job. You know.
Yeah that Spink Did you ever hear of

723
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:39.400
Tanto and Spink and twenty No,
it was one guy they called Tanto and

724
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:45.239
Spink was his partner. The Spinker
is the guy that that cut his stumb

725
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:50.360
off and then then he had his
toe transplanted trans Oh yeah yeah, yeah,

726
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.360
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Spink, so Tanto

727
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:55.800
and Spink that those guys could do
anything. I mean they were great,

728
00:55:55.960 --> 00:56:00.800
great, strong, big, strong, heavy duty guys. Man made your

729
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:05.519
job easy, right cap oh man, thank god. So when you got

730
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:07.760
Mick swiggin there, Jimmy mcswiggan,
I went to high school Saint Helen.

731
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:12.599
As I told you, there was
about maybe twelve or fifteen universe from Mike

732
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.440
class that run in the fire department. Some of them are pretty pretty.

733
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:21.920
You know. Larry Hatton, he
was a safety chief. Jimmy mcswiggan,

734
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.039
he was, He became a fire
marshal. Stevie Heshan was a deputy.

735
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:31.320
Carbine Crochry was famous and uh in
thirty one truck. There was a bunch

736
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:37.960
of us. Wilkins Wilkinson says,
he was your twenty Walter Wilkinson was my

737
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:45.320
twenty four partner. Just said,
yeah, yeah, we did, we

738
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.960
did. We did mutuals all the
time. Man him. I was gonna

739
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:52.480
tell you about what the he was. I gonna tell you about mcswiggan.

740
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:54.400
Mc swiggin was a big hunter.
He went, he had Africa, did

741
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:59.840
struggling by every place. But anyhow, he shoots a bear upstate, right

742
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:05.760
He brings it down, he cuts
the head off it. He skins it

743
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:08.239
right, and he cuts the feet
in the hands off it. Now he's

744
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:14.239
got a torso looks exactly like a
human Huh, looks like a human being.

745
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.159
Yeah, he put he put a
pair of finding pants on it,

746
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:23.239
and he tied a rope around his
ankle and they tied together rope around the

747
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:27.960
thing on a tiller up and by
the tiller wheel, and he goes on

748
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:34.760
the run. Now he's driving through
the Bronx with this streaking whatever. And

749
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.400
as he comes around the corner on
Park Avenue on the one seven and something,

750
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:43.280
he takes his knife out and he
cuts the rope and the thing rolls

751
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:46.079
down towards towards the side of the
road and R tricks. So they don't

752
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:50.079
know what happens because nobody knows what
it happened to it. The next day

753
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:57.440
in the paper headless ape found in
South Bronx, Oh, I heard that

754
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:04.199
it was willis Saving You someplace,
willis Save You? How it got from

755
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.840
one hundred and seventy six and Park. We always had a real South Bronze

756
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.280
down around Willis Save You. We
don't know who did it. I guess

757
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.679
the neighbors did it. Somebody told
us that story, Cap a while back.

758
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:17.079
I don't remember who it was,
but somebody told us about that.

759
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:21.559
It was in the paper the next
day. Yeah, it was they and

760
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:24.519
they all thought it was They all
thought it was an eighth But Cap,

761
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:28.679
I'm not I'm not kidding. If
you skin, if you skin a bear

762
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:30.800
and you look at it and then
you hang it, it looks like it

763
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:35.280
looks like a person like I know, it really does. It's like you

764
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:37.320
said, if you took the hands
off. I've been involved in that.

765
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:43.159
Yeah, skinning people, not bears. Yeah, I understand, I understand.

766
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:49.320
Dennis Smith said that that's right.
Thank you did. The South Bronze

767
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.159
from Bond. You of Germany post
World War Two when you got there was

768
00:58:52.239 --> 00:59:01.679
worse. We had guys, guys
come there from from Israel to ride with

769
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:07.480
us, and they were government officials
or something. I don't know what they

770
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:10.840
were why they were there, but
they were touring that and they said this

771
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:15.519
was worse than Germany. They said
when they went around Charlotte Street and all

772
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:20.199
that crap, you know, all
them down by thirty one truck and eighty

773
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:24.400
two engine, fifty fifty nine and
eighty five when they were there and they

774
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:29.719
were a gas there was terrible.
It was a terrible, terrible disaster that

775
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:35.760
area. Everything happened, it was
was crazy. Crazy things happened there.

776
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:39.079
They go down they caused the Charlotte
Street. You get down there's nothing but

777
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:46.760
but rubble and those ghetto weeds grown, those ghetto sumac trees, you know,

778
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:52.039
they grow sixty eight feet high.
So there's a group of guys down

779
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:54.559
there living, living in a rubble
and living under the shade trees. They

780
00:59:54.599 --> 01:00:00.440
had like bench seats from vans and
stuff that they would sit on. They

781
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:02.519
called us down there. We'll get
down there and we go up to the

782
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:06.760
guy. I say, yeah,
what what's the matter? They shaid,

783
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.559
Frank over there, Frank ain't doing
so well. So we go over.

784
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:15.079
There's a guy laying. You know, we're gonna tell you sorry, but

785
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:20.559
your paler, Franks. Did you
know the guys a bailable over time?

786
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:24.239
He said, Franks did? He
said, yeah, he's dead. Oh

787
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:31.800
Frank oled me a dollar, my
two dollars. Does that work out like

788
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:39.239
that? Frank getting to see into
his pockets now while he's still in gosh

789
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:43.639
cat, what companies did you?
I'm not that familiar. That's about the

790
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:45.840
only borrow I'm not that familiar with. Who did you run in with?

791
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:47.519
You running in with thirty one?
Now? Like, who do you running

792
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:52.599
with nineteen nineteen, fifty, forty
forty two, fifty six, eighty eight,

793
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:55.519
thirty eight, forty five, fifty
eight. Wow, See right in

794
01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:58.599
the middle of that all that.
Yeah, it was right in the middle.

795
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:01.119
Called it the eye of the on. We called it that. You

796
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:04.119
know, we were right in the
middle of the more we ran with all

797
01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:07.039
of them guys. All right,
So now I'm gonna ask you again with

798
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:09.719
now with this company with you know, you were on the set on the

799
01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:15.239
Lower East Side or point you were
in Harlem, and now you're you're in

800
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:17.480
twenty seven, Like, where did
you feel like? I now, I

801
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:21.360
know seventy seven was the year,
but when did where did you feel like

802
01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:23.920
you were doing the most work in
your career at that point? I was

803
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:30.400
saying the Bronx. Yeah, definitely
the Bronx. Yeah, we were.

804
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:34.480
We were always busy. You know, that's a lot of funny stories.

805
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:36.920
Get out of there. Yeah,
this is a good story. Here,

806
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.440
let's I'm gonna pull this pick up. Oh yeah, that was back in

807
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:45.119
twenty seven. That was fifty seventy
six. I have the date on the

808
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:51.000
back, it's January something. And
that's right across the street from forty two

809
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.440
and fifty when fifty six and forty
two ones, you're in the same court

810
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:58.239
as I'm un row, and that
was right across the streets road frames like.

811
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:02.719
So we go there and the fire
is in the basement. So I

812
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:07.440
know, I'm in there in the
basement with a guy with a can and

813
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:15.519
we're trying to knock the fire down, and the can wasn't enough. The

814
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:21.119
thing flamed over over the room,
you know, over the ceiling balloom well,

815
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:24.679
and then then the whole place got
shocked down with with you know,

816
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:29.800
black thick, hot smoke, and
so we hit the deck and I we

817
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:34.880
got to get out of there.
So I'm kicking their asses to get out

818
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.719
because I'm I'm scared to ships,
you know, I want to. I

819
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:39.880
can't leave him. I gotta I
gotta wait for them, you know,

820
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.960
come on, come on, you
guys, let's go. Let's go.

821
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:50.800
And I the stairs going down.
They had just started to build a closet

822
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:53.679
under the cellar stairs and it was
framed out, but it didn't have any

823
01:02:53.760 --> 01:03:00.400
walls. I had the misfortune of
crawling in that closet trying get out of

824
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:05.039
this basement, and I and I
hit the you know, I crawled in

825
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:07.400
and bang, I hit this thing, and I couldn't I couldn't go any

826
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:08.679
further. I turned to the right, I couldn't go to the right.

827
01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:13.440
Bang, I couldn't go to the
left. I couldn't see anything or anything.

828
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:16.960
So now I didn't know what the
hell I do and I was on

829
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:22.920
the verge of panic. Hard to
believe, but that that's that's true.

830
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:27.960
Anyhow, I said, the only
way I'm gonna get out of here,

831
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:30.760
I gotta put my nose to this
ground and see if there's any if I

832
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:34.159
can see anything. So I put
my face on a on a cement,

833
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:38.039
and I looked and it was about
maybe three inches of clear, you know,

834
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:40.880
no smoke. It didn't reach the
floor, and I could see a

835
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:45.000
light. So I got out of
the closet and I crawled and I got

836
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:50.800
out of there. So that was
that was the first little mishap at that

837
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:53.079
job. So that not the whole
place is going Now we end up on

838
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:57.559
the roof. I were trying to
cut that the back roof there andvent it

839
01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:00.760
for the guys going in with the
line. American falls through the roof.

840
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.440
John Merrigan falls through the roof,
and so Tommy used was with me from

841
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:09.679
fifty six Struck and me, and
they're wearing that picture and we're pulling him.

842
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.599
We're pulling American out. That's me, Tommy used American. I don't

843
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:16.320
know who this guy is. I
don't remember. So we get him out

844
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:19.079
and get him stood up, and
then me and him fall through the roof.

845
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:26.719
We had a we had a we
scurried out ourselves, you know,

846
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:31.440
we like you know, but that
they're all happening, like within fifteen minutes.

847
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:34.119
She's unbelievable. A lot that shit
happens, right, you know,

848
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:41.400
two a minute to find the next
minute, Yeah, trouble even a guy

849
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:44.519
like you called to so many fives
with the experience, you could be humbled

850
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:47.360
and killed a second two seconds.
It doesn't take two seconds. Yeah,

851
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:54.880
I mean, I spent three days
in UH in UH North Central bronx and

852
01:04:55.480 --> 01:05:00.360
intensive care, and you wouldn't believe
you can get a feed. I got

853
01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:06.039
a feed on the roof of an
h and we almost lost the whole company

854
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:12.679
because we got trapped on the side
of the roof and the area was on

855
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:17.000
the other side, and the cock
woff just exploded and started caving in.

856
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:19.840
And we had a run. And
as we were running, the roof's forum

857
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:25.360
behind us, you know, going
down down, were almost running uphill to

858
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:30.519
get to this, and the smoke
was absolutely horrendous. So we got I

859
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:32.239
got all the guys on the area
and all that stuff. By the time

860
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:36.239
I got on it, I was
finished. They took me to North Central

861
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:42.039
Bronx and they put me in tense
of care and they said to me,

862
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:46.719
it's all right, you know,
got somewhat the rejuvenated. I said,

863
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:48.400
all right, can I want to
go? You know, I want to

864
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:50.480
go home in it? And I
said no, you go, you and

865
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:53.760
go and know it. And I
said why not? They say, well,

866
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:57.000
you're clinically dead, they told me. And they said, I mean,

867
01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:00.679
I'm clinically dead. And they says, well, you're you're combat monoxide

868
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:05.239
blood count is so low that you
can't survive. You You nobody ever survives

869
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:11.639
that low with that much carbon oxide
in their blood. And this is we

870
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.360
ain't letting you out of here until
you your blood is clear. Took three

871
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:25.559
days they clear my clear my blood
before they'd let me go. That was

872
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:29.119
that was at noontime, you know, not of the nighttime. You think

873
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:31.119
something's gonna happen at night time.
It's a nice sunny day, you know.

874
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:34.880
And and and I happened that stuff
cap You know what I want to

875
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:41.119
ask you guns put that picture back
up for a second. Was that was

876
01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:45.239
that tool the tool at that crowbar
something you just picked up? Or was

877
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:47.239
that? No, that was I
bought that? That was a just a

878
01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:54.199
nail poor nice you know, Yeah, I like it. It's a carbon

879
01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:58.599
just nail puller. I don't know
if they saw them that length anymore,

880
01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:01.719
or that that the type, but
that's what I use. Yeah, we

881
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:04.440
still have m I use them for
trench rescue. We use them to pull

882
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:08.920
the nails. We have the same
same size, same one. Ye when

883
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.760
it was nineteen seventy. You know, they weren't buying four hundred dollars like

884
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:15.039
many Halligans. You know what I
mean? They needed you know what I

885
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:18.360
he went to the hard way stuff
for twenty bucks. It was the officer's

886
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:20.760
tool. Yeah, no, I
get it, man, I knew it

887
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:25.320
a sort of picture the job.
That was a good tool. I like

888
01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:31.679
that tool like that. Do we
have any other pictures gone from twenty seven?

889
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.599
Uh? That's that was the one
I had, and it was in

890
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:38.559
that time frame. Let me see, uh go back in case we missed

891
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:42.639
any before we move on to captain. Yea, that was pictures of twenty

892
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:45.320
seven. Too bad I didn't put
them all on. No, that was

893
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:51.760
the other than the actual rigor the
rig. That's the old firehouse they had

894
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:58.840
one hundred and seventy sixth Street and
at Rescue three went in there after they

895
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:01.719
left Manhattan and stayed dead to like
build up the new firehouse that they have

896
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:06.480
done right down the road there.
Look at them all garbage cans coob,

897
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:13.559
Yeah, how much those things weighed? Those things sucked. I remember how

898
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:18.239
you get like a plastic garbage can. Right, Those things weighed like there

899
01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:21.520
was another house right next to it
to the left. That was where forty

900
01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:27.560
six engine was. There were separate
houses. Oh really, Oh John's find

901
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:33.319
that bro Bro seven engine that was
called It actually looks like two two different

902
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:38.880
firehouses and they were to get twenty
two was the same way like that one

903
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:42.279
twenty two year. Give me a
year nineteen seventy. I'll just look at

904
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.319
that. Let me see what like
a fine nineteen seventy that that that was

905
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:50.439
about nineteen seventy four, seventy seventy
three, that picture, I think I

906
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:56.479
see what they could find. Yeah, a lot of rigs. Cap You

907
01:08:56.600 --> 01:09:00.560
had the same while you were in
twenty seven. Uh, you had the

908
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:04.199
same bosses for the most of the
time. You said you did uh twenty

909
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:10.000
fours with Wally that but who was
the Wilkinson. We had Wally Wilkinson,

910
01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:17.840
me Bobby Schmidt, who the boy's
nicknamed the Ayatola because he was he was

911
01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:21.840
a tough guy on him, the
Golden the Ayatola altla comani, right,

912
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:27.319
Yeah, Yeah, And we had
we had Maddy Mertz always the captain for

913
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:32.399
a while, and then Jimmy Shuffle
became the captain. And we had Jimmy

914
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:36.199
Roach was the captain and when I
went there, but he was outsick and

915
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:42.000
he never worked when I was there, guy named Roach, who I wanted

916
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:43.840
to ask you this before I just
thought about it, not to cut you

917
01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:45.119
off. Who did you study with
you? Did you have a study group

918
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:49.640
that you stayed with the whole study
was studied with a Billy Dietrich, Bob

919
01:09:49.760 --> 01:10:03.039
Mullen, Charlie Boyce and uh Jimmy. Uh, he'll come to you.

920
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:10.600
Name Jimmy from Rescue one. He's
the same name as that lieutenant from Rescue

921
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:14.199
one whose kid got killed in nine
to eleven and he just died out in

922
01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:18.600
Vegas. Jimmy, get uh the
hint. That's there's another story. This

923
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:21.680
guy, Jimmy. I would think
of his name in a second. He

924
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:27.680
was. He comes to the eighteen
truck and I'm there. You know,

925
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.359
I'm sort of like a senior guy
because a couple of ProBiS came after us.

926
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:34.239
So he walks in the door and
he had a kid. He's an

927
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:40.000
old guy, so, you know, and he sort of knew his way

928
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:44.000
around. So I said the talking
to him, he was eight years a

929
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:50.680
cop. He's playing clothes. His
partner was Cerprocal. Well shit, yeah,

930
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:56.159
So I said to him, Jimmy, your partner was Serprocal And I

931
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.439
said yeah, And I said,
what he did? What did he say

932
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:01.680
to you about this stuff when the
cops? And he says, well,

933
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:04.479
what do we he said? Sebago
said to him, Jimmy, what are

934
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:09.319
we gonna do about this? And
Jimmy said, I don't know what you're

935
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:14.560
doing about it. But I'm going
to the fire department. And he went

936
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:17.920
to the fire I'm getting the hell
out of here. And Sebagos did his

937
01:11:18.039 --> 01:11:24.640
thing. And Jimmy Jimmy Kerren,
his name was Jimmy Jimmy Kerr. Yeah,

938
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:27.079
but it's not the one from rescue
one. Not the sort of a

939
01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:30.079
guy that's well known. This guy
grew up in the Lower East Side.

940
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.399
He was an orphan. He grew
up with his grandfather. His grandfather had

941
01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:38.239
a bad heart, but he was
a cold deliverer. So since he was

942
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:42.199
a little kid, he had to
go with his grandfather and delivered bangs call.

943
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:46.680
And he was strong as you could
be. And he was a heavyweight

944
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:51.760
professional boxer, but he was mile
matting guy. He wouldn't know he was

945
01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:55.680
a fighter. He had known nothing
on him. He only had six or

946
01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:09.760
eight heavyweight fights. But he used
to small Rocky Marciano ain't shit, No,

947
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:13.720
this is Jimmy. This is what
was that like? Sparn with him.

948
01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:15.119
He says, every time he hit
me, it felt like a six

949
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:18.359
story building fell on me. He
said, he said, it would just

950
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:26.039
go right through your bones, everything
to your bones. Right, Okay,

951
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:29.880
Maiana, it's not the ain't shit
I found this. I mean, I

952
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:31.520
tried to see if this is?
Is this back? Then? This is?

953
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:34.600
What's it? Fine? Okay,
it's kind of it's not the best

954
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:39.039
picture I was. Can you zoom
it? No, I have to put

955
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:42.319
a little blurry looks a little blurry. See if I can find a little

956
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:50.479
kind of now seen that guy current
hit one guy once because the guy curring

957
01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:56.159
got promoters a lieutenant and the guy
thought he should have got promoted before him.

958
01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:59.760
So he was pissed off and to
getting promoted before him. And he's

959
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:02.880
a picture to beer in his face
and Karen like, he wouldn't like this

960
01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:13.560
here about. He couldn't have thrown
it that much. It just just cap.

961
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:16.079
It's always the jab. Cap,
It's always the jab. Oh just

962
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:20.560
a little bang. And that was
the end of them because he wanted that

963
01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:27.199
again. Brouh, It's always the
jab. So let's captain. You got

964
01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:32.960
promoted to uh captain in UH eighty
two eighty two. Yeah, I went

965
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:39.920
to the fifteenth division covering, but
I wasn't a Brooklyn man. They they

966
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:46.680
didn't take kindly stream take kindly to
my demeanor in Brooklyn too well, although

967
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:50.920
I knew all of them guys,
I still they couldn't get a company for

968
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:56.640
shit. I wasn't in there.
You know, you need to be in

969
01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:01.840
a circle, the circle of trust, circle of trust. So I spent

970
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:04.840
a lot of time in two thirty
three Engine because the captain they had died,

971
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:13.039
so I was covering there for a
while. And Bobby, you remember

972
01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:15.680
Bobby Sarno. I do remember that
name, but I don't remember looking at

973
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:20.399
time, Fella, I don't remember
for sure. I got two guys out

974
01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:24.359
of that company to rescue for though, when I became captain I liked.

975
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:31.000
I got Mike Loftus and uh pelf
Garrett, Michael Garret. One time I

976
01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:33.520
was when I when one of the
problems when I went, they were like

977
01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:38.560
when I was in the Bronx suite. You know you had drill at seven

978
01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:42.159
thirty every night and that stuff.
We never drove the le Bronx because we

979
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:45.840
were we weren't there. You know, you're always out, you know,

980
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:49.359
So I wasn't. We didn't have
that that built into us to have a

981
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:53.640
drill. So I got to three
thirty two Engine one night and it's snowing.

982
01:14:55.159 --> 01:14:58.560
I'm sitting at your office swilling my
thumbs and they called me down and

983
01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:00.760
I said, you got the drill. It's time to drill, Time to

984
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:02.640
drill. I said, what you
know, like, what the hell?

985
01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:05.600
What do you mean drink? And
they said it's time to drill. And

986
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:08.640
I'm saying, oh crap, what
am I gonna drill with? I know,

987
01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:12.720
you know, I'm not even thinking
about that, And my mind was

988
01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:15.520
sort of blank. But they had
a female that she was just there.

989
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:21.840
She just came there. I don't
remember her name. So yeah, dip

990
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:26.479
foxing around in the kitchen everything,
and then when they want to drill,

991
01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:31.039
they want to drill. So I
said that you guys know how to make

992
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:34.920
Irish soda brigg and they said,
no, I don't know. But in

993
01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:39.760
twenty seventh truck we had a famous
Irish soda brig recipe. We used to

994
01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:42.319
make it all the time. So
I said, you don't know how to

995
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:44.760
make it Irish soda brig? You
know. There was a couple of Irish

996
01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:45.920
guys said no, no, no, you like it? Oh yeah,

997
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:49.119
we love it. Yeah. I
said, well, tonight's drill is Irish

998
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:53.520
solder brig. And I said,
and I got, I got all this

999
01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:56.960
stuff. I told him what they're
getting everything, and they made him each

1000
01:15:57.039 --> 01:16:00.880
make a loaf of Irish sorder brick, so they ate it and everything and

1001
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:03.199
then come out it or come out
terrific and everything. So that was my

1002
01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:11.159
drill for them, and they loved
it. What do I find that in

1003
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:15.720
the manual? I think it's in
the manual where you take your name or

1004
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:18.880
if your uniform too, and you're
coming into port, it's in that same

1005
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:24.920
on that same page, right,
yeah, I mean the two earty three

1006
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:30.159
engine and it's annual inspection. Right. That firehouse is huge. You ever

1007
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:33.600
see that fifth division? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, four bays, yeah

1008
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:36.720
yeah. They had an ambulance in
there, they had everything, the squad

1009
01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:41.560
in there at one time. Yeah. Well the only person in there now

1010
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:48.000
was two eighty three and a division. So just the day before the inspection,

1011
01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:53.199
I go on building inspection. There's
nothing to inspect. They're all vacant

1012
01:16:53.239 --> 01:16:58.880
buildings. I walked into a vacant
liquor store and there was a like account

1013
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:02.239
or something. I find our three
fifty seven magnum pistol, fake fake three

1014
01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:06.119
fifty seven magnum pistol, but it
was as real looking as could be.

1015
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:11.439
So I just took it with me, and I went back to the quarters

1016
01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:15.279
and I put it in the Captain's
box on the desk. The next day

1017
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.119
we're having the annual inspection. So
I don't, I mean the chief is

1018
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:21.279
in quarters. I don't. I'm
not worried about this at all. You

1019
01:17:21.399 --> 01:17:27.079
know, it's a yell over here. I like that. But so and

1020
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:31.439
the guys had just painted the firehouse, the whole inside of the firehouse with

1021
01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:36.039
their own money, because to tribute
to captain who died. He wanted to

1022
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:39.880
do that, so they did it. They did it on their own,

1023
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:45.399
paid everything and everything. So f
figering your Steputy's gonna, you know,

1024
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:55.079
give us a wash, right,
yeah. So I Mikey Loftus was the

1025
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:58.720
MPO, like the senior guy.
And I says, Mikey, just tell

1026
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:00.279
me where the roof is. I
know what even know where the roof was.

1027
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:03.479
I just tell me where the roof
is. Because these guys usually like

1028
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:08.520
to go to the roof. Ja
they never go to the roof. Don't

1029
01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:10.720
worry about it. So I didn't
know where the roof was. Right,

1030
01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:14.840
So the chief says, okay,
it comes down his clippo and everything.

1031
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:19.399
He's all right, cat, let's
go to the roof. I said,

1032
01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:26.840
the roof. That's even money I
might commit. We got to go to

1033
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:30.199
the roof. So the roof was
a straight run ladder up there, and

1034
01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:34.039
I had a hatch. I climb
up on the roof and I damned dropped

1035
01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:39.199
dead. I swear to god.
There were sumac trees growing out of the

1036
01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:45.960
roof. About eight There was beer
cans, Oh my cans, and it

1037
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:56.159
was all these these air conditioning cans
that they used to charge a conditioners or

1038
01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:59.239
something. There was ten or fifteen
and laying on the roof. The roof

1039
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:01.600
was a total wreck. And I
looked at him and I said, holy

1040
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:05.800
shit, oh my god. And
so it depinutely looks at me. He

1041
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:11.119
says, watch this, And I
says, chief, I says, we

1042
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:14.600
can't keep this thing clean. He
said, that subway station is right there.

1043
01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:23.479
All they do is throw berkens on
the roof. I said, and

1044
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:30.279
those things are Those cans are from
the shops. You know that they come

1045
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:32.439
over here and they put them in. So those cans are from the shops.

1046
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:36.119
And I says, those trees,
I said, Dad, the men's

1047
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:45.479
marijuana plants. So he would all
right, let's go down this let's get

1048
01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:47.199
the hell out here. Yeah,
as long as you have an answer,

1049
01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:51.840
right, cap. That's really so
this guy, this guy, he's going

1050
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:57.920
over everything, everything to the nail. I'm going crazy, right. The

1051
01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:00.600
finally we get finished and if the
the n annual inspection, usually go in

1052
01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:05.720
a kitchen and have cake and coffee
in you know. So, but he

1053
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:12.279
goes in a normal company in a
place where there was not where there was

1054
01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:15.600
occupied buildings. You had building cards
and everything. So he says, he

1055
01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:18.600
wants to see my A forty two
cards. The A forty two cards list

1056
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:23.239
every building in a district when they
were inspected the last time, the inspector,

1057
01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:27.920
the number of violations, blah blah
blah, the whole history. So

1058
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:32.079
I get the A forty two cards
out and I showed them to him,

1059
01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:36.800
and he's notting on him. It's
like the rem chief. And he says,

1060
01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:42.600
what the hell is this? And
I says, I said, I

1061
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:47.279
looked and I saw my box with
the gun in it, right, And

1062
01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:50.960
he starts harassing me about these eight
twenty two cards. I reached in,

1063
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:55.239
I took the gun and I said
that's enough, chief, you know,

1064
01:20:55.319 --> 01:21:00.359
And it looked real and he almost
shooting with cans, and he says,

1065
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:04.720
I guess it's time for coffee.
That says, you're right. I should

1066
01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:09.960
have had that in mind him.
We bought a mailbox and he passed us.

1067
01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:15.039
Still, I don't know how the
hell he passed in Muni coups.

1068
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.119
Oh my good, I know how
he passed. He was scared for his

1069
01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:23.000
life. That's how he passed.
You. He might have thought it was

1070
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:26.000
real. I don't know it looked
real, all right? So how long?

1071
01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:28.199
How do you get the spot?
He covering around? How do you

1072
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:30.039
wound up over? And well it
wasn't stock back then, right, it

1073
01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:36.079
was how he wound up and rescue
four rescue services. Right. Yeah,

1074
01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:40.359
So I was in two eighty three
and I was gonna get that spot if

1075
01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:46.199
I hung out there long enough.
But I had serious problems at home.

1076
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:54.159
H my what. I had six
kids and my wife took a hike and

1077
01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:58.199
left me six kids. You know, so I'm working and I got six

1078
01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:01.800
kids at home. I added five
girls. They're all young teens, preteens

1079
01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:06.439
and teens. And I was,
I was, I was struggling, you

1080
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:11.239
know, to keep my family together
and keep him straight and keep him out

1081
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:14.960
of trouble and everything. So I
knew South Sansoni was in charge of the

1082
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:17.880
Bureau of Training, and he says, can I help you out? He

1083
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:21.199
says, I give you a day
job over here. Un least should be

1084
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:26.960
home at night, you know.
So I said, okay, I'll try

1085
01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:30.119
that. So I went to Division
of Training, put me in charge of

1086
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:36.159
Chauffis School and I lasted about three
weeks and I hated. I was just

1087
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:40.680
freaking drove me out of my mind. I couldn't do it, and it

1088
01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:45.600
was worse. It was worse than
than before at home. The way that

1089
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.319
I was were and everything. It
wasn't good. So I went to him

1090
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:50.680
and I said, SI, I
can't. I can't do this. I

1091
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:54.039
gotta go back to the field.
He says, will tell me where you

1092
01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:56.880
want to go. I says,
put me in the fourteenth division. That

1093
01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.600
way, my commute won't be that
far anyhow, it's Queens. So I

1094
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:04.520
went to the fourteenth division and he
put me in one four truck immediately because

1095
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:09.600
that captive got sick and he was
never coming back. So I stayed there

1096
01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:13.680
for about I was going to get
that spot two. I stayed there for

1097
01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:19.399
about nine months or something, and
my power was Ray Brown, who was

1098
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:26.680
the charge of rescue services at the
time. That was the precursor to Sack.

1099
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.640
They called it rescue services, and
so he was running rescue services and

1100
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:34.840
he was he you know, they
had HASMA. They were trying to get

1101
01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:41.439
a hazmat company because Rescue four had
the hazmat and they were just transferring all

1102
01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:45.119
that stuff over to the real has
the new hasmat company and that stuff.

1103
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:50.039
And so it happened that Rescue one
had old Faery, Rescue two head Downy,

1104
01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:57.079
Rescue three had Rhyme, Rescue four
had me and and the Rescue five

1105
01:23:57.199 --> 01:24:01.960
at DRISCO five Irish captains. Right. So there were some Colombian guys that

1106
01:24:02.039 --> 01:24:06.119
were a little myffed at this ship, you know, and they knew that

1107
01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:12.079
that Mehan was getting promoted to battalion
chief and they insisted that they're getting Italian

1108
01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:17.039
in and Rescue forward. I want
an Italian in there. And all these

1109
01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:21.840
Colombian guys were all, you know, all fighting over it and everybody,

1110
01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:26.439
and you know, everybody's coming out
of the woodwork and everybody, and Ray

1111
01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:29.680
Brown is telling I don't even notice, right, Ray Brown is starting to

1112
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:30.840
tell He's telling me this, you
know, he's sitting there. He said,

1113
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:34.000
they drive me crazy. I don't
know what to do. Boom.

1114
01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:38.880
He says, I don't know who
to get. I can't find anybody that

1115
01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:43.800
I think should have it. That's
that's halfway decent and everything. And he

1116
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.720
says, and the plus the the
animal Society is going crazy. They don't

1117
01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:49.079
want to give up, you know, the spot they want to have.

1118
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:53.640
They want to keep the Irish in
there and everything. I said, I

1119
01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:56.119
just thought about it, and I
says, you know, Ray, you

1120
01:24:56.199 --> 01:25:00.840
know, I'm remember the Columbia Society, and I'm also remember Emeralds Society.

1121
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:04.960
Three quarters Irish. My mother's name
is Shannon. My grandmother was Shannon,

1122
01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:09.680
and my other grandmother was Egan.
The other one was white. You know,

1123
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:13.119
I was three quarters Irish. I
says, I'm a member of both

1124
01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:16.560
satieties. Put me in there and
let them fight it out after I get

1125
01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:18.920
it. And they can't say nothing. They can't say you didn't put an

1126
01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:21.279
Italian in there. You put a
Columbian in there. And the other guy

1127
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:26.880
says, you can you didn't put
an Emerald guy in there. I'm in

1128
01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:30.479
there, so he says, oh, he goes who so he took it

1129
01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:33.560
down to the chief of department or
whatever his name was. The guy from

1130
01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:38.880
Massapika is a good guy, and
he run it up in front of them,

1131
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:44.239
and so they interviewed me, you
know, and they said, well,

1132
01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:45.840
you got in a reputation as a
party guy. I don't know.

1133
01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:49.720
I don't know where I got that
reputation. I really don't, but I

1134
01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:53.960
don't know where they got that.
But I said, well, you know,

1135
01:25:54.439 --> 01:25:56.680
I can't. I can't. I
can't answer it, you know.

1136
01:25:57.439 --> 01:25:59.920
And they says, well, we
have one lieutenant there that's a problem,

1137
01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:06.560
and his name is John Dylan.
And if you, if you, if

1138
01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:11.720
you, if you think you can
handle him and straighten his ass out,

1139
01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:14.560
we'll give you the company. I
saw sure, I said, I don't

1140
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:18.399
want to have any problem with John
Dolan. Little didn't know that John was

1141
01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:27.359
one of my best friends. Yea, hang around with him and his and

1142
01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:30.199
his cousins and all that stuff.
Duke, I'm gonna get him a helmet,

1143
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:32.880
That's what I'm gonna get him.
Yeah, So I go, I

1144
01:26:33.039 --> 01:26:36.119
call they give me the company,
you know. So I go to Duke,

1145
01:26:36.199 --> 01:26:39.960
I said, Duke, I said, listen to the story. So

1146
01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:43.159
he had a big kick out of
it there. Don't worry, he says,

1147
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:45.960
I ain't gonna He said, I
ain't gonna do anything to screw her

1148
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:48.359
up, and he didn't. But
it didn't make any difference because the duke

1149
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:53.560
had so much weight that they couldn't
hurt him if they wanted to. The

1150
01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:57.399
fire commissioner couldn't even hurt him,
he had so much weight, so he

1151
01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:00.159
did what he wanted. Anyhow.
Then I got the company and what year

1152
01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:06.880
was that cap? Yeah, so
I stayed on ninety one. Wasn't it

1153
01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:11.119
a big change for you, you
know, coming in instead of first two

1154
01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:14.000
company, now you coming in as
a rescue Well, it was different,

1155
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:17.520
you know, I mean it was. I liked it because there was no

1156
01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:20.800
we didn't have hydrants, you didn't
have buildings, you know, we didn't

1157
01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:24.960
have any of that crap. And
you had a lot of we had a

1158
01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:28.359
lot of a lot of nice tools
that you could, you know, you'd

1159
01:27:28.359 --> 01:27:31.079
have fun with, you know,
and do things with. And I started

1160
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:33.560
drilling with them. Guys. We
went out. We used to we had

1161
01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:35.479
a boat. We used to go
out in the boat going to the East

1162
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:40.119
River. We'd go to the Rockaways
and go out in the ocean, go

1163
01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:43.680
out to Fort Totten and drive around. You know, we did that,

1164
01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:46.800
and you know, we'd go down
to the railroad yards. We're going to

1165
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:56.439
ships, going to the subway tunnels. The airports we had JFK and LaGuardia

1166
01:27:56.479 --> 01:28:00.319
Airports are two biggest airports around,
and we'd go over to those places.

1167
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:02.039
We've got to learn them places good, you know. I mean when you

1168
01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:05.279
think about how big the area is, right, you can go to Astoria

1169
01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:10.680
and then you can go to Rockaway. Right when you think about how crazy

1170
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:15.720
there could be a two hour ride, right yeah, and plus where it's

1171
01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:17.960
located, you could be in the
Bronx and ten minutes you can be minute.

1172
01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:21.720
Yeah, and it's perfectly be in
Brooklyn in ten minutes. So anytime

1173
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:26.359
one of them rescues was doing something
and something happened, we were there.

1174
01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:29.520
Yeah, you could go to fifty
nine Street Bridge right away, right,

1175
01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:32.359
were there all the time, and
different burrows you know. Yeah, when

1176
01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:34.840
you're when you were in those other
companies, CAP, did you ever have

1177
01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:39.279
any problems, you know, with
when you were in the other companies like

1178
01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:43.279
twenty seven and and before that twenty
six, do you ever have any problems

1179
01:28:43.319 --> 01:28:46.680
with the rescues you know, we
had problems with rescue one when I was

1180
01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:54.840
in eighteen because it was two a
couple of guys there that were nasty guys,

1181
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:58.399
you know, they I don't want
to say their names. I don't

1182
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.359
know, you know, I don't
say. I don't think I should,

1183
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:04.439
but too in particular, that caused
a lot of grief. You know.

1184
01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:09.000
Basically a lot of them are good
because we sent guys there. We sent

1185
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:12.840
we got Eddie took went there from
eighteen truck. He was up there a

1186
01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.720
week and he got killed up there
in the rest of one. He got

1187
01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:19.800
killed the memorial then when we were
having memorial services and the ice house in

1188
01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:25.039
Greenwich Village. I don't know if
you know about that fire, but it

1189
01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:29.479
was a fourteen story ice house along
the west Side Highway, and he was

1190
01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:32.159
cutting the roof and what they did
up on the roof was they had had

1191
01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:36.039
a skylight there and they took the
skylight out and they just laid plywood over

1192
01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:42.560
the chef. It's a fourteen story
chef. But they never put any crossbeans

1193
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:48.560
and have a supported it. So
he just happened it putt the thing flapped

1194
01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:53.000
and he went down and it flapped
back up. And they didn't know where,

1195
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:56.039
they didn't even realize he was he
was gone. And as he fell

1196
01:29:56.119 --> 01:30:01.159
down the Kate twelve saw cut his
cut his leg off. I think he

1197
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:03.960
was he was going to die anyhow, but on the way down he cut

1198
01:30:04.039 --> 01:30:08.800
his leg off. And then they
got killed. And then we were up

1199
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:17.000
at the Fireman's memorial up and Riverside
Drive and during the ceremony, and then

1200
01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:23.920
and then when we got the word
that Eddie got killed October's seventeen seventy seventy

1201
01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:27.800
one or something. Yeah. So
but for the most part he got along

1202
01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:31.640
with the rescues, right, yeah, Rescue of three we got along great.

1203
01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:36.760
I know. We never dealt with
Rescue two as as you know in

1204
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:42.399
the other companies. I thought with
him when I was in in four because

1205
01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:49.800
I was opposite down here group wise, and I I got and he was

1206
01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:54.199
out a lot. He got hurt, he got sick, he had operations.

1207
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:57.199
So I would always work over there
over time. So I knew them

1208
01:30:57.279 --> 01:31:00.000
guys do they were pretty They were
they had a big rep. But the

1209
01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:02.560
guys I had worked with seemed to
be good. There was a couple of

1210
01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:08.800
two or three trouble makers here.
Two when I was working, but I

1211
01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:15.960
don't want to mention anything. Troublemakers
everywhere making was Milner. Was Milder a

1212
01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:20.760
troublemaker. No, Milder was a
sweetheart. He was. He was a

1213
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:24.439
nineteen truck I know him because I
was in twenty seven. I know him

1214
01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:28.199
down there. I'll tell you a
story about Milner. This is a great

1215
01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:35.479
story. We get special calls to
the Bronx for a building classes guests explosion,

1216
01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:40.279
four story building classes. Right,
get up. There's a guy buried

1217
01:31:40.319 --> 01:31:45.800
in the rubble. Riskue three goes
down to sellar because they can sort of

1218
01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:49.760
see him up and they can hear
him yell him. So they tell him,

1219
01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:54.439
all right, they're gonna dig from
the bottom up. And we started

1220
01:31:54.479 --> 01:31:57.640
digging from the bottom down right.
We had a lot further to go,

1221
01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:02.000
but they had to be more careful
because they were afraid the building of collapse

1222
01:32:02.079 --> 01:32:06.279
into the cellar. So we dug
this great, big hole. It took

1223
01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:11.600
hours to get to this guy.
We get to them. Now we're down

1224
01:32:11.880 --> 01:32:15.560
maybe eight or ten foot hole and
everything is shifting. It's really it's Harry,

1225
01:32:15.800 --> 01:32:18.279
you know, to say the least. And I got like, let

1226
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:24.720
me see, I had probably three
guys down in the hole, and Milner

1227
01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:29.199
was one of them, Mikey Lofters
was one, Norman Sebisi was the other,

1228
01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:32.479
and there and the might have been
another guy, and maybe Billy Billips

1229
01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:36.960
might have been there. I got
them in the hole and they're showing stuff

1230
01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:41.000
up and they're cutting and sharing and
cutting and showing. It took a real,

1231
01:32:41.079 --> 01:32:45.279
real long time. So we get
this guy pretty much uncovered, but

1232
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:47.920
we still can't get them out.
Now. They didn't have EMS in the

1233
01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:54.319
fire department then, but they had
ems City ems people and they they're pissing

1234
01:32:54.359 --> 01:33:00.680
and mowner that we're not letting them
do anything with this victim. So anyhow,

1235
01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:04.000
whoever was running the show for the
fire department, some assistant chief or

1236
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:13.800
something, relents and they were gonna
put and the MS worker down into the

1237
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:17.319
into the pit. Will take him
down and give the guy a shot.

1238
01:33:17.479 --> 01:33:19.680
I know it's a pain color or
what kind of shot they're going to give

1239
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:28.079
them. So they picked a girl, the MS girl, and you know,

1240
01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:30.960
we take her over to the edge
and she looks down and it's scary.

1241
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:33.039
I mean, it was scary.
So she starts to, you know,

1242
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:38.359
get very very nervous and all that
stuff. So we take it,

1243
01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:41.199
get it down and get it way
down in a hole and hour eight or

1244
01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:45.640
ten feet down in this rubble,
and Miller's there. She takes the needle

1245
01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:51.640
and instead of sticking the victims,
she sticks Milner in the thigh. He

1246
01:33:51.720 --> 01:34:01.680
gets in the shot. Yes,
we gotta ask. You can't even make

1247
01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:09.680
that up. I've never heard of
I don't think I've ever heard him say

1248
01:34:09.720 --> 01:34:13.079
that. Can No. He kept
that ship quiet, already, kept that

1249
01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:17.119
ship quiet or something. She shot
him right with the big old freaking syringe,

1250
01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:21.720
righting his leg. Oh my god. In the chat here I saw

1251
01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:27.359
Richie Euler was in the chat.
Yeah, Richie, Richie. Richie came

1252
01:34:27.399 --> 01:34:32.920
from one eleven. And I almost
didn't let him stay because he kept screwing

1253
01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:39.600
up, you know. But he
had a lot of He had a lot

1254
01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:44.000
of good things that people said good
things about him, and I got to

1255
01:34:44.119 --> 01:34:47.560
like him, and we're very good
friends now and I love him now to

1256
01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:53.960
this day, and his wife wonderful. People wants to know who shot the

1257
01:34:54.039 --> 01:35:02.159
reverend, Oh god, I don't
know. I bucket as the ship we

1258
01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:08.119
had this guy, this guy wants
to come, he wants to come in

1259
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:14.520
east and I he was in Hasmat
and he all of a sudden he shows

1260
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:17.640
up, worked with an onion skin, and I said, what the hell

1261
01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:21.159
is this? Nobody's said to me
about this. I called up downtown.

1262
01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:23.960
I sent them back. I said, get this guy out of here.

1263
01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:25.640
I don't even know who he is. You know, I don't want to

1264
01:35:26.840 --> 01:35:32.560
so so so I said, let
me go through channels and come the right

1265
01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:34.479
way and all that shit. So, I don't know, six or eight

1266
01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:38.359
months later this he had a lot
of weight to scape to who I don't

1267
01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:42.640
know who it was. But he
shows up and then he was a fire

1268
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:45.399
buff. But he didn't buff New
York Fight apartment. He buffed the Boston

1269
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:50.199
fire apartment. He loved the Boston
fire apartment. He got tools from the

1270
01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:54.960
Boston Fire department. He used to
carry Boston rates, you know, and

1271
01:35:55.039 --> 01:36:00.159
stuff like that. But anyhow,
he was in there. So count the

1272
01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:10.079
cop and he's he's not patrolling Minneola. Right, And they got a radio

1273
01:36:10.279 --> 01:36:15.680
call that some black guy held up
people with a gun at the Hicksville train

1274
01:36:15.760 --> 01:36:19.079
station and jumped on the train station, right, and the train is heading

1275
01:36:19.159 --> 01:36:25.399
towards Minneola. So and it comes
to trains and the Minneola train station.

1276
01:36:25.840 --> 01:36:31.479
He hops on and she's a black
guy back there and he goes booms and

1277
01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:39.000
the guy was a reverend reading the
Bible. Oh my god. And he

1278
01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:42.960
got out this job. Well,
he ended up in a fight upove and

1279
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:46.079
I don't know what happened, but
oh my het the reverend. She got

1280
01:36:46.159 --> 01:36:55.960
the reverend. He shot the reverend. Reverend him. He didn't kill him,

1281
01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:59.720
Thank God, he didn't kill him. Goodness, Gray shot just he

1282
01:36:59.840 --> 01:37:02.520
just a graze would it was a
graze would shoot the rebin Ray Strong was

1283
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:08.159
in the chat before Strong, Big
Race I'll tell you a story about good

1284
01:37:08.199 --> 01:37:11.000
Already he comes to see me.
He must have come to the rescue for

1285
01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:13.920
he comes into the office. Thought, do you ever see Race Strong?

1286
01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:17.720
Oh? I know Mary very well. Big monster guy right fits the name.

1287
01:37:18.279 --> 01:37:20.520
He's very young, he's big.
He feels the whole door on.

1288
01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:24.119
Look. I'm sitting at the dusk. I'm looking at this guy. He

1289
01:37:24.239 --> 01:37:27.920
said, holy shit, and he's
telling me I'm this, I'm not in

1290
01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:31.840
a volunteer fight of b blah blah
blah and all this stuff. And I'm

1291
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:34.880
saying I didn't have any room for
him any how, blah blah, blah

1292
01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:38.640
blah blah blah. So I said
to him, I said, I'll tell

1293
01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:44.439
you what, kid, I says, I think you'd probably be good here,

1294
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:46.520
but I think you got to bulk
up a little bit before we let

1295
01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:54.760
That's right, right, that's a
big my bed, my bed. I'm

1296
01:37:54.800 --> 01:38:00.239
trying to be good. He was. He was bigger, he was likest.

1297
01:38:00.520 --> 01:38:03.159
He's a monster Schwarz. It looks
like Arnold. Yeah, he'sick.

1298
01:38:03.479 --> 01:38:05.560
I told him, I said,
no, no, you gotta bulk up

1299
01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:12.279
a little better. And you know, he comes on about six or eight

1300
01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:15.279
months and the guys twice as big
as he ports, as old ship as.

1301
01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:17.560
I gotta take this guy. He's
gonna kill me if I don't take

1302
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:21.479
him. He probably eleven guy guys. Yeah, and he went to he

1303
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:25.199
went back to one to eleven.
He stayed there for a while. I

1304
01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:29.119
went to one eleven and then came
back as a lieutenant to rescue. Yeah.

1305
01:38:29.239 --> 01:38:30.680
I'm very he's a great guy.
I like he listened by me in

1306
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:36.680
Rocky Points Sweetheart right here? Yea
who else that I saw? I saw.

1307
01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:40.000
I don't know exactly what he said
because I don't see it, but

1308
01:38:40.119 --> 01:38:42.079
Chief killed Duff was in there and
he said, you know, for an

1309
01:38:42.119 --> 01:38:46.039
old guy, you remember a lot, you're pretty sharp. Eddie killed Uff.

1310
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:48.560
I grew up with his father a
little bit. I know his own

1311
01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:55.560
man from Flushing, and he hangs
out with my brother Eddie. So hen

1312
01:38:55.720 --> 01:39:00.600
like this, Yeah, Louis and
Edda like this. I called him,

1313
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:04.760
I called hi chief killed Lewis calls
him head. But you know, I

1314
01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:11.319
didn't really know Eddie too much.
And until later and after I got out

1315
01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:13.479
of the job, I sort of
got to know him better. Now I

1316
01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:17.720
know him very well. We played
golf in the same golf league and everything.

1317
01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:24.880
I see him every week. So
he's a good good man. I

1318
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:29.039
was gonna say that, rof,
he's a big golfer. Who is I

1319
01:39:29.159 --> 01:39:33.119
play? I play like this?
This guy it up here you Yeah,

1320
01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:41.640
Lewis this guy handicapped in you That's
what I was gonna say. Well,

1321
01:39:41.720 --> 01:39:44.760
he's good friend, we're good friends. So he's got a really high handicap.

1322
01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:49.520
That would be called coombs. That's
me. Oh yeah, well last

1323
01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:55.399
year this time I weighed one hundred
and forty eight pounds, so I couldn't

1324
01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:59.439
I couldn't even swing a golf squad, but I tried. I try.

1325
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:04.079
I finally got back on my feet. I had a few struggles in the

1326
01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:12.199
last two three years. I spent
thirty days in the hospital and COVID and

1327
01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:15.880
since I was eighty years old,
they said screw this guy, and they

1328
01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:20.920
put me in a corner to croak. But I fooled them. I'll show

1329
01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:26.680
you so. Yeah, so I
didn't croak on them. So that then,

1330
01:40:27.239 --> 01:40:30.920
that was, that was. I
spent the whole first month of twenty

1331
01:40:30.199 --> 01:40:38.720
twenty one in the hospital. Then
I then in June and I got pneumonia.

1332
01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:42.520
I spent another eight days in the
hospital. Then in October I got

1333
01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:45.760
heart failure and I spent another eight
to ten days in the hospital. Then

1334
01:40:46.159 --> 01:40:50.399
then I went to Florida and I
probably fell and broke my fema and I

1335
01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:56.640
spent four months on my back without
walking. Shit. Yeah, so I

1336
01:40:56.760 --> 01:41:00.199
went down to one hundred and forty
eight pounds. I was two thirty when

1337
01:41:00.199 --> 01:41:09.680
I started. Now I'm about about
one. So I'm getting some strengths back.

1338
01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:13.760
The kids live close by cap Club
me, your kids live close by?

1339
01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:17.479
Yeah? Yeah. I got him
around. Yeah, I got a

1340
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:23.560
picture of him and his son.
He's that guys down in Carolina, but

1341
01:41:23.600 --> 01:41:30.840
he comes up all the time,
said Green Greensville, South Carolina. He's

1342
01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:33.680
a copper fireman. No, no, no, he's a national educator.

1343
01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:39.640
He's a national education consultant. All
right. He travels all over the country,

1344
01:41:40.880 --> 01:41:44.880
does a lot of Indian reservations,
and travels all over does He did

1345
01:41:44.920 --> 01:41:47.159
a lot of New York Long Island
up state. Now he's out in the

1346
01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:53.039
Dakota's down in Arizona and New Mexico. And he straightens out of school districts.

1347
01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:56.159
You know, that's what he does. Is he still in volund here?

1348
01:41:57.399 --> 01:42:01.359
Not now? No, not down
there, take the base of a

1349
01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:05.960
car and drive across country. Did
he No, he didn't not, but

1350
01:42:06.079 --> 01:42:12.720
he was. He was. He
was at the principal in the King's Park

1351
01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.800
Junior High School and he quit that
job and he went down in Tucson and

1352
01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:25.479
became superintendent assistant superintendent schools, and
and in the district down there was just

1353
01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:29.239
there was just starting to build Tucson
big. It was four hundred square miles

1354
01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:32.199
school district. That's huge, you
know. So he got a huge He

1355
01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:39.960
get down there and he built seven
high schools as as a as an administrator,

1356
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:45.039
built seven high schools, and he
wrote some books, and he got

1357
01:42:45.479 --> 01:42:49.199
noticed by these national companies, so
they hired him and now he goes and

1358
01:42:49.239 --> 01:42:53.359
he works for them. He goes
around, he does stuff for them.

1359
01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:56.960
But so that's why I could see
him often because he's up he's up here.

1360
01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:03.439
That's what. Well, before before
we get too far, I wanted

1361
01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:08.920
to ask you this. I forgot
h he had chief Lafamina, Freddy Lafamina.

1362
01:43:09.119 --> 01:43:11.680
Oh, Freddie's a good guy.
Freddy. Yeah, man, he's

1363
01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:15.399
a sweetheart. We played golf like, I gotta find out if he shot

1364
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:18.600
him into the short game when when
he was playing, I played him a

1365
01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:23.880
match and he couldn't he couldn't chip
or a pitch with the ship and he

1366
01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:27.359
was but he could hit the ball
good. But he was really fair.

1367
01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:30.079
You know, you need a shot
in the shot game. Well, he

1368
01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:33.520
failed in it, and I talked. I gave him a few hints and

1369
01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:36.880
I said, you gotta go get
lessons, man, because you could be

1370
01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:40.880
a good damn golfer. And he
said he had a friend who was a

1371
01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:44.319
pro that was going to teach him. So I haven't asked him. I

1372
01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:47.319
see him, but I haven't asked
him if he took But he's a good,

1373
01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:49.680
good man. I loved him.
He was a great fire and Donna

1374
01:43:49.840 --> 01:43:57.680
when when he was covering in four
and not Stuf and career. What about

1375
01:43:57.680 --> 01:44:02.600
the Triple Lindy on the Bluga boat? How do you hear about that?

1376
01:44:05.119 --> 01:44:11.279
My little birdie, little birdie,
You show a picture of you show a

1377
01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:15.600
picture of Quick on the back of
the boat, right, which one with

1378
01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:20.680
a shaved seat? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that the Beluga boat belongs.

1379
01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:25.880
Yeah, that's it. That that
boat belonged to the Heglin brothers,

1380
01:44:25.920 --> 01:44:30.760
the two brothers that you saw these
other pictures. They called it the Beluga.

1381
01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:39.600
Every year on my birthday, we'd
have a birthday party on a Beluga

1382
01:44:39.680 --> 01:44:44.640
boat and on to the Triple Lindy
off the the top of the boat,

1383
01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:51.640
right, you know, like Rodney
Dangerfields and yeah, so that was famous.

1384
01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:58.279
But I always did it naked,
you know, let that part out.

1385
01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:03.319
Oh then there's that so uh so
this this this this day, my

1386
01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:09.079
fiftieth birth was my fiftieth birthday.
We're all out there and you know,

1387
01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:13.760
there was this guy in rescue for
Bobby Leone. We call him the funds

1388
01:45:14.079 --> 01:45:19.279
Or. And then he was he
was on the top roof the roof of

1389
01:45:19.319 --> 01:45:28.800
the boat was suntan oil and he
was like an a speedo and oh no

1390
01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:38.680
no, he was doing the naked
and home man. A man, he

1391
01:45:38.840 --> 01:45:43.119
did so good. Let's see,
it's gonna be tough to get him back,

1392
01:45:43.159 --> 01:45:47.000
I think. Yeah, before he
gets back, let's do the least

1393
01:45:47.399 --> 01:45:53.199
spot we got fr CE. Dude, that guy can remember everything. Man,

1394
01:45:53.399 --> 01:45:56.840
it's crazy. Now I remember what
half for breakfast this morning? These

1395
01:45:56.880 --> 01:46:04.479
guys tell me, oh, look
he's back. Alight, Hi, all

1396
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Can you hear us? No, I

1415
01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:49.760
don't hear it. There's something wrong
and I'll get I don't know where it's

1416
01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:54.000
what it could be. Can you
hear us one too. I've gotten the

1417
01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:59.159
pictures and I don't hear your voice. Is he muted? No? I

1418
01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:03.039
don't think so. And you're frozen
your pictures of frozen. That's on his

1419
01:48:03.119 --> 01:48:06.199
idea. He's not muted or anything. He's good walks have him go out

1420
01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:09.840
and put him out and then U
we'll bring him back in. We'll try

1421
01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:14.359
and bring him back in. Maybe
something's going on. All right, you

1422
01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:21.319
want to give him a quick call
and I get stom Yeah, yep,

1423
01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:28.000
So check out that First Responder Center
dot org. You know what, while

1424
01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:31.439
reefing bro, we can run our
right if you want, or we can

1425
01:48:31.560 --> 01:48:36.000
run our right if you want to
take the fifty seconds and yeah, that

1426
01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:39.199
way. All we have to do
is the old school tip of the day

1427
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:42.279
from El Capon. Okay, let's
run all right, I'll tell you what.

1428
01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:44.520
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1429
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1430
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1431
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1432
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Well, we carry hands draw on original

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1434
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Arctic cooler cups, and much much
more. There's also a full line of

1435
01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:10.760
firefighter tool bottle openers like Halligans,
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1436
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1438
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1439
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could also personalize most of these products.

1440
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1441
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1442
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1443
01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:42.960
we have them. But no,
no, he's not there. He's

1444
01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:45.560
he's here, he's in the back. But I let's see if you still

1445
01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:47.680
have Let's see what's bring him in
se if you can hear us, he's

1446
01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:50.159
he's mute to Joe, I'll mute
yourself. I think you're gonna be okay.

1447
01:49:50.920 --> 01:49:58.479
I'll mute yourself. Oh yeah,
oh yeah. I can't im mute

1448
01:49:58.520 --> 01:50:04.680
himself. Tell him to mute himself
one more time. Let me see if

1449
01:50:04.680 --> 01:50:10.319
I can do it. Louiep himself. My browser failed to play the video

1450
01:50:10.439 --> 01:50:14.479
quip. Can you hear us?
No? I can't, I can't hear

1451
01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:18.279
you. I can't hear Louie.
Just tell to give his old school ticket

1452
01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:25.840
the day. Then your your voice
is your voice is all distorted. Yeah,

1453
01:50:26.479 --> 01:50:29.760
all right, Brook, just tell
him to get tell to give the

1454
01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:33.880
old school tip of the day.
That's it. Just tell me he going

1455
01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:38.600
to the old school tip of the
day is to get better at the cable.

1456
01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:44.159
All right, Well, Rufie's muted. Now, Ruffie muted, my

1457
01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:46.600
friend, let me give him mut
you you gotta do it. I said,

1458
01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:48.680
well, uh, we'll have him
back. I already told him the

1459
01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:51.439
captain will have him back because he
tried four times. So I said,

1460
01:50:51.479 --> 01:50:54.560
well, just have him back on
when we do the rescue four thing.

1461
01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:59.239
Okay, we can have him with. You know, we'll get a bunch

1462
01:50:59.279 --> 01:51:01.640
of guys, not maybe Richie Youl
that we know he watches a lot of

1463
01:51:01.720 --> 01:51:05.479
him on there. He'll come on. I've talked to rich back and forth.

1464
01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:12.239
He's back. He's trying. He's
trying, but you're there joking.

1465
01:51:12.279 --> 01:51:18.800
Here's no, here's nope, All
right, what does happen back? That's

1466
01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:24.800
all? Yeah? We did everything, Yeah, we did. We we'll

1467
01:51:24.840 --> 01:51:28.079
just been a we don't have a
show Monday, right, it's nine eleven,

1468
01:51:28.159 --> 01:51:30.840
No nine eleven. We don't have
a show following that Thursday to fourteen,

1469
01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:34.319
fifteen, sixteenth year away at h
right, so the next show would

1470
01:51:34.319 --> 01:51:38.319
be that following money we have a
show at eighteenth. There's a tenant Bella

1471
01:51:38.359 --> 01:51:42.319
Sharry Squad two eighty one thirty eight
guy. Okay, so a few guys

1472
01:51:42.319 --> 01:51:45.640
who will kind of come down to
the Jersey Show and Wildwood. I'll be

1473
01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:50.159
down there with my sons and my
wife will be there with the boys Jamie

1474
01:51:50.520 --> 01:52:00.199
from One Source Jamie and Big Big
Though Big Bill Amy. We'll be down

1475
01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:03.560
there with them in their booth.
One Source will play the One Source commercial

1476
01:52:04.319 --> 01:52:09.680
again, so look us up down
there. And for those of guys who

1477
01:52:09.720 --> 01:52:13.239
are coming down on nine eleven,
we appreciate it. Well. Remember that

1478
01:52:13.319 --> 01:52:16.520
don't forget to tell me about the
frictional kill efficient and gons will buy you

1479
01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:21.760
free around the draks, all right, will favorite, do you have the

1480
01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:26.159
one source that might be friend to
go? You're ready, let's play it

1481
01:52:26.239 --> 01:52:30.319
for that. We're going to the
booth with them, Okay. Equip your

1482
01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:34.199
fire and rescue emergency response personnel with
the equipment they need to save lives and

1483
01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:39.279
keep themselves as protected as possible.
While in harm's way would safety equipment from

1484
01:52:39.319 --> 01:52:44.399
One Source fire Rescue. Our comprehensive
supply company provides the life saving implements emergency

1485
01:52:44.479 --> 01:52:48.600
responders need to be prepared for any
situation with dependable quality products by reputable companies

1486
01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:53.199
such as Drager, Viking life Saving
Equipment, fire Hooks, Crew Boss,

1487
01:52:53.399 --> 01:52:58.159
Kurayama fire hose and nozzles, Phoenix
Technology, Helmets, Vanguard Gloves, Tempest

1488
01:52:58.239 --> 01:53:00.359
fans or any rack, Black Time
and boots, and much more. Our

1489
01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:05.279
quality products are competitively priced to meet
your budget criteria. One Source was established

1490
01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:09.680
in twenty twelve and continues to strive
to provide not only the best products on

1491
01:53:09.720 --> 01:53:13.720
the market, the customer service.
One Source has been and continues to be

1492
01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:17.000
committed to meeting all new and demanding
challenges in the firefighting industry with the highest

1493
01:53:17.079 --> 01:53:24.640
quality and the most dependable products.
Excellent. We'll be down there in Jersey

1494
01:53:24.720 --> 01:53:28.359
with them, and Ruffie and I
will be out in Ohio at the Firehouse

1495
01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:31.439
Magazine at the end of September.
Sometimes that's it, all right, guys,

1496
01:53:31.680 --> 01:53:34.520
do you allude? You guys have
any ground rules for anybody that shows

1497
01:53:34.640 --> 01:53:42.239
up to new guests that come to
the firehouse. Just be respectful. I

1498
01:53:42.319 --> 01:53:45.359
want to buy a shirt. Wait
till lean don't start asking guys like to

1499
01:53:45.439 --> 01:53:49.239
buy a squad shirt or something like
that, like here's your brain. Yes,

1500
01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:54.439
just be respectful, kind of just
spill around in the back and let's

1501
01:53:54.479 --> 01:53:57.319
it. Pay your respects and then
we go up to the watering hole that

1502
01:53:57.359 --> 01:54:01.319
we burnt down once before, O'Neil
fire and tell me about the fresh and

1503
01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:05.720
coefficient and that's it, all right, rough, I'll see you h monday.

1504
01:54:06.079 --> 01:54:10.640
You come into my house this weekend. Let me now ten four gods.

1505
01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:14.079
I'll see you tomorrow as I picked
your stinky es up from the airport.

1506
01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:17.279
Stinky man, I'll put some good
cologne on thie. Thank you Ahi.

1507
01:54:17.399 --> 01:54:23.279
Guys. Until then, stay low
and go and everybody will see it

1508
01:54:23.359 --> 01:54:26.079
the big one. Everyone's seeing the
top floor. And have a good night.

1509
01:54:26.159 --> 01:54:26.640
Stay safe,