Okay, are we ready to go? Here? Was this pregame banter recorded?
Oh yeah, it's been recording for fourteen minutes. I like this.
I will not use it all, but all right, Kyle's day. What
we're gonna do? Yeah? Whatever, She's never gonna listen to this.
Whatever your us story was. She's like a stalker and she like been following
you for years. She knows your DJ. The first time I've had a
stalker's hey, oh same, Hey, I've listened to your podcast, lady,
I work with Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the geek
First Podcast, but more importantly, welcome to the X Men Retrospective. I
am the art teacher trash Now. I am the iceman Kyle Smith. I
am the incredible night crawling Kirk Pats. So, if you haven't guessed by
our names, we are reviewing X two. If you uh you missed out,
go check X one. We are reviewing every X Men film up to
Days of Future Past or I guess we're ending after Days of Future Past in
honor of Dark Phoenix Final and Disney just had a big press conference today.
When we record this, they said, because they own now, I said
it is the final chapter of this one. So if you like these people,
they're gone. It's no more so it's too late. So we're gonna
get into X two. There's gonna be spoiled, it's gonna be conversations.
So if you haven't seen it somehow it came on two thousand and three,
then this is not the cast for you. But we'll start with overalls.
Who wants to start with X two. I'll get my overall first with X
two. Yeah, yeah, okay, Oh he was like the way I
did that on purpose scary? Uh my. Overall, I thought it was
pretty good. I enjoyed it. It wasn't like I think it was just
one of those more of those fun movies that you kind of just watch along
like you're not really thinking that hard. But it was an enjoyable movie.
I liked it better than the first one, that's for sure. The character
development was pretty decent. It was a lot more focused on Wolverine and Gene
and like kind of the main characters instead of last time we rode. Yeah,
well, I guess you still got a bit of iceman named Piro.
But I still I like this a lot better and was more enjoyable. For
me, So yeah, it was good, that's my overall. Yeah.
When I first started watching it, I was honestly talking to myself and I'm
like, man, I think I like the first one more. And then
it just I don't know, uh, I don't know what point in the
movie that it happened, but I was just I was totally like digging it
a lot more than it was the first one, and I really enjoyed the
first one. I don't honestly remember when I rated it because I was trying
to think of that. When I was watching eight, it was an eight
or nine. I don't think it was a nine. Okay, I think
it was an eighth. Then okay, then it was an eight. So
yeah, I'm not gonna say right now because you said seven, you said
seven point five, didn't you. I think I see, I thought I
thought I gave it a seven, and nuts I thought I was maybe just
a clean because you, yeah, weren't you six or something? Yeah?
Yeah, and then he was seven point five and I gave it a seven,
I said in the middle, and then Kyle had, of course his
remarkable that's not the middle, and I just met like in general, somewhere
in between these two. So but yeah, no, I really liked it.
I liked how uh like the team kind of splits off. I like
the little like mini partnerships that kind of developed, Like there is like some
Jeane and Gray or some Geen Gray, some Jean Gray and Storm, like
kind of like they go off and find night Crawler and they're kind of on
their own thing, and then Scott and the Professor go do their little thing
like really shortly. It's not very successful. Scott disappears in Yeah, but
I don't know. I I like the because in the first movie you didn't
really get to see like chemistry between Gene and Storm or I don't know,
the other little mini teams that developed. Pyro like wasn't even in the first
one. I think like he was kind of playing with a lighter or something.
Yeah, he was. He's this show or this franchise recasts a lot,
because Kitty Pride has been played by like, at this point, two
different actresses, and then the next one she's played by Ellen Page. So
three movies and she's played by different people. Is that the she's going through
wall? Yeah? Okay, so she's been in every movie so far,
but it's always been a different actress. And that's one thing that's constant with
the excellent movies. They don't care about connudy actors. They'll recast in a
second. There's like in there, we'll get it to when we get to
origins in first Class. But at one point First Class happens before Wolverine origins,
and they cast this character Emma Frost, and she's really like not really
old, but she's like older in first Class. But then when they jump
forward, she's like a teenager an origin, so they like that's funny.
They just don't care at all. It's not like Figy. Yeah, in
the back of my mind, like I knew Ellen Page had that uh she's
coming up, or like I knew she had that mutation that she'd go through
walls. So when I saw was it this movie that she goes through Both
movies she goes through walk I don't remember the first one that's in the class
when Logan shows up and she forgets her book and she's running the door and
Logan's like, how's she gonna get through there? And this one is when
they go to shoot and she's just running through it. Right. See,
I thought it was just like Okay, uh, mutants kind of some of
them the same mutation, super super strength and going through ship. So yeah,
back to my overall though, I really liked it. I thought the
CIGI it was a little bit in Proof of the first one. The one
scene that stood out for me that I was just not having the CGI was
the Pyro scene when he's just like, yeah, like Johnny Storm all over
the cops. So I was just like, so good. I'm like,
man, those flames. CGI just looks so bad. But I don't know,
I thought Wolverine's claws looked better in this one. They definitely showed him
awful lot more. And then uh, same with the I don't like I
totally forget her name, but she's basically like the female Wolverine. She's got
the five lady death strike. That's her name. Yeah, Okay, they
don't say that. Okay, Yeah, I definitely miss that. There's a
whole origin of like Wolverine killed her father and out for revenge, but that's
on this movie. They just wanted like, oh, there's female Wolverine.
Put her in the movie and make a fight scene. Yeah. I was
just calling her like arthritis lady because she was just kept cracking her like arms,
and I'm like, I don't know why Wolverine's not doing that, but
but in his knuckles, right, So like I guess, like, okay,
right, but it should be his whole skeleton. Oh yeah, the
logistics don't make sense. Okay, yeah, I'll give it to him.
But overall, I really enjoyed this movie, and I have to agree with
Kyle. I did like it more than the first one. I won't go
into my overall rating until the end, but stay tuned, Stay tuned part
two. Yeah, so with this movie, I absolutely love this movie.
This is like in Finney War before Infinny War was out. Is no way
the quality of it because you got some suspicious acting at times. I think,
like Conquer talking about you get more of certain characters. But at the
same point, we still really don't know much about Storm. We don't like
look at Scott. He's literally in three scenes in this movie, and he's
the fucking leader of the X Men. Imagine if they did that the Rollert
Downey and Endgame people would lose their mind. So it's so funny. So
I think those are the cons. But other than that, for me,
it's just there's so many good moments in this movie, whether it's the Wolverine
x Mansion scene, even though Pyro scene is kind of cheesy, I like
the set out of that. I remember when I was younger, I really
like that scene. But it's just like the CGI does not hold out,
yeah, or like you get to see the heroes and film's team up,
and that's always a fun and there's a valid reason for it's not just like,
oh, what could we do to spice it up? And I remember
because there's always a conversation of like, what was the best comic movie this
or spider Man two? And I was always in the X two camp,
But I love Spierman two. But I love this movie. I think they
have a lot of fun with it. I think there's a lot of storylines,
there's tons of set pieces, and I feel like and I didn't even
say this the first X Men retro because I know maybe there's new fans,
but I thought for old fans it would just be repeating myself. But Wolverine
is my favorite Marvel character and I feel like this. I feel like like
I was say in the first movie, Hugh Jackman's good as Wolverine. This
is when I feel like he is Wolverine, like his quips, just the
way he talks, just the way he moved. I noticed in this movie
he says bubb a lot, which, yeah, like in the comics,
he just feels more like Wolverine now. And I just I love Wolverine.
He's my favorite Marvel character. And yeah, you got the stuff, like
you love his powers. He's a badass. But the thing I do like
about on the most is like he's this tortured soul who's just been through just
so much crap. And they kind of hint at that in this movie,
and I've you know, I think we've all been in there, and I
think guys can definitely relate with that Jean Gray cyclop scenario of like, you
know, the girl that there's some flirt tape that she's with some like douchey
guy, and it's got something in that douchey but like, I've found myself
in that position many times in life. So it's like there's so many things
in Wolverine and Logan that I've always glommed on to. And I thought Hugh
Jackman was perfect, but this is when to me, it starts like,
Okay, he feels he just feels like Wolverine at that point where the first
one still feels like he's figuring out. He's Hugh Jackman. Like we said,
he got casted three weeks into filming, so like he had to go
quick. This one he just has it and obviously he's like worked out,
so he looks the part and yeah, it's just from top to finish this
movie. It's just it's just really watchable. I think that the thing is
just tons of fun. It's enjoyable time. So I'm excited to get into
the nitty gritty of this. Do we have anything to say before we get
in this? No? I think we forgot to do our synopsis though well
technique I didn't cut it out, but I got it right here. Oh
yeah, let's let's see what they got this time. That'd be fun.
Oh No, this one's a lot always because there's a plot and a storyline.
Maybe I read the storyline last time. That's my bad. So I'm
just gonna do the I'm gonna I'm gonna maybe adjust the MICUs if you put
the way more. I don't know what you're doing. When the anti immune
Colonel William Striker kidnapped Professor X and at Taxi School, the X Men must
rally or must ally with their arch enemy Magneto to stop them. So very
basic, very basically, I said, I think I read the storyline paragraph
last time and that was the problem. So you gotta think I'm good now,
Okay? Was I gonna say so, yeah, obviously, let's just
go. I got no, it's we'll started the beginning of eet Nightcrawler.
What do you guys feel about Nightcrawl in general? And then we got this
to me, great open man, it's so good, it's so golden.
I kind of forgot like what he was doing at the beginning. I was
like, oh, is he bad? Like it's been so long. I
was like that maybe he is bad, like he's not brain control at all,
but I thought he was brain control for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
I was like cool to see him like flip through the walls, like all
the tricks and like even though like it felt like authentic in a way,
even though you know it's kind of fakeish but kind kind of but it wasn't
like that much cgi for like when he's doing all of his action stunts,
other than when he's like kind of teleporting to different spots in the room,
so baffing, as it's called in the comics. He's pretty quick though,
so it's not like you can really point out the CGI. So yeah,
it's called baffing because anytime when they drew him teleport in the commics, they
always add the sound Effectam I knew that from playing Ultimate Alliance? Oh yeah,
mutch U Yeah, no, I I absolutely love that scene overall.
What was that noise? It's me, Yeah, I'm fixed. Please don't
do that. This is definitely one of those movies that I would rewatch so
much as a kid, but never I had never once watched it as like
an adult. An adult? Are you still an adult? I think so?
But uh so you definitely like pick up on more things like I didn't
understand why he was doing that in the first place, but obviously he is
undermine control and he's very confused when he comes out of it. But uh
yeah, I know that interesting. It's just so I don't know, like
it just it just jumps right into it, like right after they show the
little intro credits, and it's just I don't know, it's just so exciting
and like it's you haven't seen that Mutan until like this movie because he was
in the first one, unless you've obviously read the comics, but I don't
know. It was just so like dark and creepy and just such a cool
character to me. Yeah, he's such a good look. I was gonna
say, like, I really like his accent that he does as well too,
and then his look and the makeup that they did was incredible. It
was so good. Although I'll bring up during the trivia there's some fun stuff
about that nice and there's just little stuff that like, obviously the whole set
piece is good, but I like when he does have the president on the
ground or on his desk work, and when he goes to pick up a
knife, it's his tail picking up the knife and on his hands, just
like little touches like that. They do a really good job. And that's
what frustrates me now because we haven't seen Dark Phoenix austly. But then Apocalypse,
I feel like when Nightcrawl, he's such a cool character and there's a
lot of things you could do, but I don't expect anything in Dark Phoenix
to be like this, and there wasn't anything Apocalypse like. He's just kind
of there in that movie. So he's such a cool character that you could
really use. So I hope when we get him with Marvel and Figgy,
he's hopefully he's a big Nightcrawler fan. Yeah, I'm very interested in who
fig you would. Uh, I know it's not I know it's not technally
Faggy that does all the casting, but I'm interested. He has a hand.
Yeah, I wonder. I almost feel like you'd get like an actual
German actor that was almost like a no name, like you know, because
I feel I guess, I guess it's just depending too when they'm Like I
said, I'm always so curious of who they start with in those movies,
you know, like what are the what are like the four or five that
they're like these are X men, you know. So I'm I'm excited for
all that. I'm excited for those costumes, and then what I'm excited for
is Wolverine. He's on his journey. He's taking last left off. Somehow
he got a lot buffer on his road trip. He's probably doing some more
cage fighting or whatnot. But he's at Alkhai Lake. He's a professor exonum.
There, nothing's going on, it's all gone. He sees a wolf
and the wolf or no, no, yeah, he sees a wolf and
then his face transforms into the wolf. So it's almost like making fun of
That's what I was thinking to Hugh Jackman's thing in the first one when he
was like looking at the wolves when they do that, it's like, but
he's not a wolf, you know, Like so it's a weird transition.
And then we get at the museum. Well you can lump that in.
I don't think there's much say about a huge Ackman. It's so like quick
and yeah, I don't know. When I was watching, I was like,
okay, I guess it like answers what he did at the end of
the first one, but like really, yeah, he just goes there,
checks out, goes home, Like yeah, how long was he really on
the road for? Like how I don't think they ever say how. I
feel like a lot of change. If felt some of those kids looked older.
Gene has a new haircut, Rogues definitely looks older. That's like he
said that, Oh my god, because remember she was a child actor last
movie, right, yeah, yeah, okay, I actually looked it up
and she was sixteen when the first X one came out when it came out
or when they filmed it. Well, I guess she would have been fifteen
when they filmed it. You age, You said sixteen film. The film
came out in two thousand, two thousand thousand, Yeah, yeah, and
she was born in eighty six, sorry, eighty eighty four, so she
would be sixteen. I don't know if I trust you. Your numbers over
there seem pretty fraudulent. Well, she was. She was inner like teens.
Anyways, talking about rogue, she's at the museum. We transitioned to
the whole Esque crew. We got Scott and Jean, Jean's head, her
head's popping off, her headaches are popping off, She's having a tough time
storms, you know, leading the charge, teaching some kids. And then
you got Pyro and Bobby showing off, which leads to well, I guess
just pyr is showing off, and then which leads to Xavier freezing every How
do you guys feel it? How do you guys feel this? As an
introduction to I guess you got Pyro, but just to the team again and
set some things up, like Jean's having these headaches. You got Pyro was
a little bit of a Dick. You know, Storm's still doing nothing.
She's just she's just, yeah, just storming it up. Yeah. I
don't know the scene. I didn't think there was anything like too special to
it that like, I don't know, maybe really excited or anything. I
don't know. It's just I guess cool to see all these different types of
mutants in the same place as these humans. And I'm not gonna lie.
I really liked when Xavier just like stopped at like time basically for all the
non mutants and then just like disciplines the mutants. It's like, you fucking
idiots because you didn't think much about the scene. What do you feel about
Jean's hair? I liked it more in the first I'm not gonna lie.
I really like one thing I like more in the first one is just Jeane
in general. I don't know, like she definitely does a lot more in
this movie, but I don't know, it's just maybe just her look.
Why do you like Geene more in the first one. I'm curious because I'm
not saying you're wrong. I'm just curious what it's probably like all visual.
It's probably like I like her hair more when it's longer and I don't know,
just the hair. When I think of Jane in the first movie,
I think of like that intro scene when she's talking to Senator Kelly, and
it's just all like the red, yeah, red, just all the red.
I don't know. I just I appreciate her her color tones and that
interesting anything in the sand Name Museum. So I thought it was I actually
didn't think it was that bad because it's just more setting up, like these
kids are trying. I don't think bad. Oh, I wasn't like and
I don't think Anna Pa was a child actor either one she's in her teenagers
or whatever teenage in your teenage product product of the time. Uh No,
I thought it was all right. Well, I guess I said it was
good, But I think it was just more setting up of the fact that
they still have to try to, you know, be normal if they want
this whole succeed of mutants and humans to be together. And that's like another
point that they were hitting on right off the star at the start of this
movie as well too, of how you kind of got like a preview or
not not a preview, but like like a reminder of what happened in X
one with like, oh, you know, human and mutants, they still
don't get along, but we'll try to fix it. And then here you
could tell that they're like, you know, these leaders are trying to make
sure that these kids are falling like the rules, so they don't get you
know, out of hand. And I think it was just just good to
see these kids instead of in the school to be out in the real world
and trying to act I guess accordingly to what the X Men expect them to,
just living life, sticking their tongue out at people. Yeah, getting
caught real Okay, I know it's at the end of the movie, but
that kid and how he comes back and how Yeah, you're getting me fired
up just thinking about that. No go now, because I might forget the
kid. So that kid that sticks his tongue out at the very end of
the movie, Wolverine's like carrying him and they're just basically trying to get like
everyone out of there, and he's like, I'm gonna go wander off with
this kid that I could just like give to the ship and like make sure
he's safe. Like what if I go over here and someone just kills me?
Like this kid's is with you? And for some reason, he was
just like so like involved with the conversation that Logan had with Striker. He's
like, Oh, you're just gonna go with that kid, and I'm like,
why is he even there? Like he's so stupid. And then at
the end when they when he walks away and just leaves Striker, they're all
chained, and then the kid just like sticks his tongue out and I'm like,
oh my god. Yeah, I don't know why. I was just
triggered. It's a weird choice that they put it there. They just want
it for her, I don't know, some symbolism of what you're gonna choose,
and like I feel like they could have done that without him holding the
kid, but just like, oh, what you're gonna be with this mutant
or whatever. And then he's like, oh my god, I'll take my
chances with him, and he's like holding the kid as if his legs are
like crushed. And the kid's also quite older too. Yeah, it's not
like he's a child actor, but he's he's definitely a child. He's a
preteen actor. A preteen actor. Yeah, he's old enough he could be
walking. Yeah, well, what what about that kid? Shows he couldn't
be walking. That's what I was just gonna say, because Wolverine's holding him
as if he like crushed his legs or he's just trying to be modul literally
kid I have. He literally puts the kid down, takes off his dog
tags and throws it down, and then picks up the kid again. I'm
like, why didn't he just let him walk into the I don't know,
man, maybe the kid tripped and you know, sprained his ankle and he
can't walk anymore. Scene and then we got into Oh, I really like
the scene, like everything that's going on. I do like the nice setup
of Gene having these headaches and whatnot. This is kind of I don't know,
maybe one of five lines that Scott Cat's in the film of him just
being like, oh, like before you could like like we they don't they
I think that's one bad thing. They don't show us. They tell us,
but you can see just because there's so much going on. But I
did like that they good did go like he had to focus like really hard
to move like a chair like weeks ago, and now you're having your shake
in the bed and whatnot. And on the Great Way of like, while
you're sleeping, whatnot with these headaches? So I like that, and then
Pyro I like, and I guess we didn't talk about Parl. I'm a
big fan of Pira. I'm a big fan of this actor as well.
He's in the Hills of Eye remake, and he was in the show that
got canceled I love called Traveler, and it was about he. It was
just the guy. It's Matt Bomber, I can't remember. There's a bunch
of people in it, but it's just some show that got canceled. I
really what you're going off in this guy? You really like the actor.
This is like two thousand and two. Yeah, yeah, And then it
was like going off as if like he's the best thing. No, I
just really like him, and when he pops up in stuff still, I'm
like, awesome. But check out travel It's one seasonal, but it's these
three friends they go on a trip to I just have to pitch it because
no one knows what Traveler and it's such a good fucking show should never cancel
because it ends on a cliffhanger. It's these three fans, they're going back
back you around the world. And then there's like a terrorist attack, and
then they find out the guy who plays Pyro, he was the one that
did the bombing. He's always a dick. He did the bombing and pinned
it on these two. But then they find out that he was Like the
whole show is like was he actually and his whole life was faked and he's
never in photographs. It's really good. It's a really good show. There's
two other people in it, but I like Pyro. I like he's a
good full half for Bobby, and I think they do a good job of
He's a dick, but he's he still has moments of being I would say
kind or at least normal. He's not just totally douchey. The entire curiosity
that he has, what do you mean curiosity? I want to know more
about that. Oh, well, as I'm going because he's with Magneto when
you're jumping, you guys are jumping that escape scene. You told me to
go ahead. I said, why is he curious? No, because he's
just like looking at Oh maybe there's other options and what I've just been bringing
up to. So it's more like curiosity of like the unknown, And yeah,
he's screwing around, but like he doesn't know any better. He should
know better. I think that's the problem, right, Like Professor Rex comes
out like this shouldn't happen again. I'm under the impression he's just like one
of those like rebellious teams. He's just like I don't know, and like
he he does get like the ass end of the stick a few times,
right, like he he wants to show off, like when he has that
one big moment, he's like, I'm gonna or I forgot that. He
had that cheesy line too, He's like, you know those dangerous mutings you
see on television, I'm the worst one. I love that line. I
love that line to death. I'll give you that. I love that line.
I don't know. I love that line so much. I love the
livery, the thing in that we are deep hold on, let me finish.
When he says that, though, like he's literally like coming, I
just like an evil mutant. No, that's where I disagree, because he
he is, he's saking. He's kind of like in a punisher route.
But the thing is, this is why I like the set up is they
are there, the cops show up, right, and they all get them
put their hands up, and he says, put the knives way, and
he's like, I can't, and he's like, look, i'll show you.
Well that Wolverine can just put him back. He can't. But it
was just a build tenser, right. But he did say look, I'll
show you because he went to do it, and then they just shot him
in the head, right, And and like Pyro hasn't. Pyro might know
Wolverine may heal or whatnot, but he might not know that Wolverine can survive
a gunshot to the head. So there's this guy who's been protecting them like
a mentor. The cops just they did not have to gun him down.
They just gunned them down big time in America all the time. But that's
why I buy that he is doing bad stuff. But I buy that as
like, you just fucking killed like a mentor of ours right in front of
us, and he it'd be different Wolverine attack. Wolverine was putting his arms
down, So I like that movation, just like fuck you, And yeah,
shuld he be destroying all these cop cars? No? But I like
that okay, And and technically he doesn't kill anybody. If you see that
first no, no, no, no, that first cop that he throws
the fire I think this goes PG thirteen movie, and I bet he did.
And I think they worked in because that first cop he throws a big
car in his goal. I'm pretty sure, like the second, third car
that comes in them alive and the car flips over. No, I don't
you. You gotta watch it again, because there they show. I watched
it last night. They show all those cops fine and rolling around on the
ground. Anytime he blows up a car, there's no cops in it.
There's no you guys are saying when he's doing fire at the car, there's
cops in it, there's no. I'm talking about the ones where he physically
throws like the fireball. Yeah, we're talking about the cops in the car.
Yeah, But he blows up road stops that that's when Roe grabs them,
right when he's starting to kill his cops. Because and even wait,
wait, when he's trying to kill those cops, he's trying, that said
trying, but he doesn't. And that's why even like for that the laws
of physics, that first cop gets engulfed in flames. But the next time
we see him he's like popping over the fence in a comedic moment, and
he's just like charcoal over him. They don't kill anybody. I'm not talking
about that cop. I'm talking about the two unknown cops that we're just trying
to show up and like provide back up help about their homies. And then
he just lights the car on fire and you hear their screams. Man,
Yeah, that could just be the fear of death. Doesn't mean they're dying.
I mean, if they're not dead, they got like third degree burns
and they're just sizzling. Anyways, I know we all fired up. Oh
no, no, up, but I'm glad it went out. I'll pull
up and we'll look at the end of the show. We won't make you
sit that. So then now we get in. Are we talking about pirates?
Oh go ahead, Yeah yeah. But I felt like I felt like
that was at least warranted. Should he have done the killer or not.
He was suber violent, but I think that shows that he's on Magneto's side
of I want to help, but we need to do we need to take
extra steps. Yeah, well, okay, to be fair. When I
was really young, I really love the scene I thought it was just badass.
Maybe I don't know. When I was a kid, I was always
rooting for like the dark Side and the bad guys. So maybe that's just
like bias. They hate Christian. He should have played Pyro Man. You
know those ones are on news. I'm the worst one yet. But yeah,
so watching it this time, just the character in general, I don't
know, they kind of like write him as a guy that you just hate.
I don't know if it's that's I mean, I don't think he's I
don't think he's overly duchey though, because like with Bobby, Oh, he's
definitely not. Yeah, so I don't I didn't hate him. I'm pulling
for him, and then I kind of see throughout the movie once again,
I think that's the flaws of the movie. It's very limited, right,
there's like two events. You get Pyrol and that's why he turns. But
he he does like help Bobby fine rogue, and he does, like I
said, like he's avenging Wolverine. So there's moments that I've still liked him.
And I kind of understand why he goes with Magneto, right, because
he wants to help out that at the end and they're like, no,
you gotta stay back. It's like, screw this. So I think they
do a good job. Yeah, that's where I was gonna go more on
the lines of like, I don't know if it's just personal bias, Like
when I was younger, I like that and then rewatch it. Now it's
just like, man, he's just like kind of a douche and his scenes.
I'm not gonna say he's fully a douche because you did bring up some
good points and uh, I don't know, like he just seems like one
of those rebellious teens that just wants to do things and then you know,
like the teacher's like no, like you need to just wait and blah blah
blah. So then I do understand why he does go with Magneto. I
just remember being younger and just being so pissed and he ends up doing that
in the end, So maybe I'm just holding the rope. Yeah, it's
just like, no, that's a bad guys. But uh so I do
understand his like his uh yeah, his motives on why he ends up making
those decisions. But and Magneto's sweet talks big time. He calls God,
oh yeah, so, and and it does make sense because he has like
the element of fire with and whatnot. But he's he's great at getting in
there and you know, doing a mind fuck you know, so so uh
yeah, overall I'm indifferent with that character just because I don't know, I'm
kind of I don't know. I don't really like a lot of the scenes
that he's in. But uh, I understand his intention. I'll say that
I don't think it will improve the third one because the third one, I
remember, he's very generic and the third make his own flame. I know,
he still can't. He has a little little device. Yeah, but
he can't create the flame. Okay, he can just imitate it still,
you know, it's more can manipulate and manipulate. Yeah, there you go.
And you guys after when I'm doing the plugs, can pull up the
scene on the phone. But no, he doesn't kill any cops. I
watch it again. That's that those cops can burn the car. That's when
Rogue stops them. There they're still Sis Bacon, you can survive it.
Burn what? No? But then she then she does the she does the
frost because she had Bobby trust me. After you guys pull up on the
phone after this and watch Chef Frost too. Yeah she did. She does
that, seem because she steals Bobby's powers. Yeah, I don't believe it.
You know that's what Yeah, No, that's how she stops it.
I thought she stops it just because she can manipulate fire. No, she
can't manipulate fire. She's using pirates. I guess technically she could, but
she thought she We're gonna have to watch this. How long can rogue hold
onto powers? Then? I think it's depending on how long she touches the
person for she was touching Bobby. Oh, yeah, we don't know what
happened. Bobby's a little creep. We'll get to that. He definitely had
some ice balls going on and want to get up there. Blue balls as
they call it, Well that was the joke. I know that's called blue
balls, but his eyes, so blue balls would have worked. So anyway,
So we catch up with a new character, Williams. Striker. He
is meeting with Senator Kelly, not the real Center Kelly, fake Senator Kelly.
Right now at that moment, he is talking to President. This is
after night Crawler attacked and we get interest Striker. He says his plan is
he wants to go and investigate the school. He doesn't really tell the whole
story of what he wants to do at the school because the President's even like
I don't want any dead immune kids on the on the news, Like I
don't think Striker really like let on what he was gonna do, like the
full on just takeover, good president. You don't want to know everything?
He did say that he said, I don't want to know, and then
we get sendra Kelly slash Mistique trying to find out where Eric was. What
do you think about I guess because we can talk about him in general.
What do you guys thinking about Striker? Obviously he's got appears a lot in
these X Men movies, but this was the introduction and then just like what
whatever, I guess kind of the setup of what his goal is. And
then he got Mystique trying to find Eric. Obviously, I think I really
like Striker actually, just because he's just getting the mind of everybody of like
trying to show like them, like on a different side of things that they
didn't think of or what they were against. So even when he's up against
Wolverine, he kind of just mind fucks him the entire time. Oh yeah,
it's extremely cocky when it comes up to Logan, But I think that's
also good to be because, like we've seen later movies, but at this
point we don't know. And again, if you haven't read combooks, we
don't know what Logan's happened. So I like that they they don't. He
never is We never at the audience find out he never goes to some soldier
be like, yeah, I'm just fucking with him. He could be telling
the truth, right, And that's why I like they never show that card
of like is he telling the truth? Is he not? Because at one
point he tells Wolverine, he's like, oh you you were just as bad
before the operation, which is not a true statement when the franchise goes on,
but you think, oh, maybe he was. Maybe he was just
a terrible guy. You know he said he volunteered too, Yeah, which
I get he did, but like not not, we'll we'll get questions.
We'll get there or two more movies. It's a fucking mess, but we'll
get there. Sorry, quick question, is that explaining well Wolverine? Org?
Oh yeah, okay, I haven't seen that, which is true,
which is strange. We'll good you finish well, let me say this thing
you can Fisher point the whole which the scene I love when Wolverine finally like
remembers that operation No No in this scene when he operates, and there's that
great scene when you run out in his naked he's just covered in blood.
Yeah. And I remember seeing this kids like I need to see that movie
because it's just like even a combook fan, I know what happened, but
it's like you leave that and people are talking like I want to see you,
like what happened in there? And then when we get the Origins movie,
that's not how it happens at all, Like there's no scene of him
blood. It's it's completely different scenarios appointing. Yeah, but I just remember
seeing this kid being like, we need to see this movie. It just
looks so great, just like that scream he lets out, just like he
just like it's just like a monster movie. It's like and he at that
point he is to have what mutes are? What it so it's just you
running in your metal clause like you're just you're scared. And that's why I
love Jacqulan so good in that scene. Yeah, I guess we'll just let
Kyle go. I was gonna I was gonna ask, because we'll come back
to Strike. I was quickly gonna ask. Like he's an adult though,
and he already has the the mutation of read his powers are. He had
regenitive powers and he could he had bone claws. Yeah. So yeah,
but you said you don't know he didn't know what mutants were, but he
was no. But I mean like when he gets out of the operation,
he would have no memory, right, that's I mean right after what the
is going on? Probably clean the hard drive Kyle Striker, Striker so child
actors, No, No, I thought he was good. So you guys
we were on Kyle's whatever. Sorry over, I'll get her next time we
could talk with Striker. He's gonna come up with a lot of you.
I'll say my points. First of all, I really like that actor that
played him. I forget his really, Brian Cox. Brian Cox, Yeah,
played the original Hannibal Lecter. Really. Yeah. There's a movie called
man Hunter that was made before Signs of the Lambs at many people have seen.
Yeah, yeah, did he have a beard, because I can never
picture Brian Cox without a beard. No, I don't think he did.
Okay, interesting, I have checked this out. Yeah it's good, but
uh no, overall I really liked him. He was one of those villains
that you hate him, but at the same time he's just he's so good
at being bad that you're like, oh, I kind of want to see
more of this guy, right, And uh, obviously, like with the
knowledge I have, I understand how big of a character I guess he is
in the X Men, just like the impact that he has on Logan and
making Wolverine who he is basically, so uh yeah, overall I really liked
him, and I agree with Kyle's points. So it's just like he totally
just gets under people's like under their mind and just like totally fucks with them,
and like even if they're super strong like Exavier, like he just like
totally played him like a fool, right, Like yeah, in the usage
of quite easily him and yeah, yeah him and Scott no longer brings Scott
to your like protect me missions Scott takes gets taken out really quickly. Yeah's
kind of useless and he's not supposed to be like in comics he is supposed
to be. He doesn't have the super strength cap America, but he's supposed
to have like that fighting skill where he has like obviously his optic glass,
but he's supposed to be a very skilled fighter, very smart as well.
And then these movies he's nothing. He's just Jean's boyfriend, Like that's all.
Yeah, he's just the guy in Logan's way. And you lose,
you lose the glasses and he can't do anything. He's completely closed his eyes
anything. So like people that are big cyclubs fans hate these movies because he
just makes sense. He just gets definitely produced to nothing. Like even in
that scene when they get captured he's having like a struggle against like security guards,
it's like you're like this mute team. Like now he's just a regular
dude. He's just got these eye powers. And if you which is fine,
in his head like put him in a headlock, like he can't use
his hand to like I don't know, I don't get that, which is
fine. Let him teach some classes, but don't bring them along on these
important and the comics. Does he have to do that too? To use
his eye? Like what do you mean like touch? Yeah, yeah,
yeah, well no, there's times he can kind of control it on himself.
It's kind of murky. Yeah yeah, the button all right, but
yeah, it's kind of murky. I liked his new mask as opposed to
the first one, that toadstool. Yeah he could wear that. People like
that, the mass toadstole. Yeah, you know, at least he learned
from his mistake. Yeah, it's a lot more slimmer that one tongues on
it. Yeah. Oh yeah. I like Striker. I think obviously he's
gonna pop a lot more, so we'll talk about him. But I think
this is the best version of him. I think Brian Cox does a great
job. He's just kind of like a seductive villain. And that's why I
think you even buy him talking to the president of this plan and it makes
sense too. But then he's just this mastermind where it is this plan to
all these Munes attacked us, so we gotta go take them down. But
he was the one that made the Munes attack them, you know, so
it's like none of this would happen at all. He just wants to rebro,
He want Xavier, so it's all just personal stuff, even though the
whole movie he's charading is like doing it for the greater good or for the
government purposes, but really it's all personal. It's all get Wolverine, like
it's just nothing to do, and he just plays everybody. So he's just
a great like Slimy came. Oh yeah, and like if it's your first
time watching it, like you wouldn't even like you would actually just think that
he's on the human side because you think that Magneto is the one that orchestrated
the attack on the president, right, Oh yeah, that's what they all
jump to, right, that's why we're gonna go see an old friend.
You know, they right away think it's more Eric and his plastic cell.
So that's why I think I like this movie actually better is because of Striker,
because it gives more motives for the X Men to be doing and like
trying to like save people or like save their own kind, compared to the
first movie, where you know, like I can kind of see Magnito's side
and I can see like the X Men side, So it's like, well,
what's really the difference, Like I'd both have like a different different opinion
on how to go about it, But then the day they have the same
goal, they want to accomplish. Meanwhile, in this movie, there is
like an actual motive of like, Okay, well this guy is actually wanting
to like hurt us or whatever in Flick Pain, So we need to you
know, do this to work together. And I think that's what made it
a better story to have. Well, I think the other thing too,
is like it's more of a layered issue and a finale. It's not just
we got to stop Magneto from unleashing this bomb, you know, like even
in this what it's not Well, I guess it is actually like kind of
a world ending this reach for some people. But I just think it's done
in a better way for me where it's just very quickly where Magneto is,
Oh we're turning people. The music munits they die, It's like, oh,
they're all dying, right. So it's like I like the I like
all the issues and all the problems he poses. And he has personal ties
with Wolverine, he has personal ties with Xavier, so they all feel natural.
Yeah, And like just the character alone, like I feel like he
gets more evil throughout the movie, even though he basically has the same motives
the entire movie. But you just don't understand them like they come to light
like uh because originally you think, like I already mentioned, like you just
think he's on the human side, gotta stop the mutants like blah blah blah,
like they're they tried to kill the president, Like this is like an
actual threat, right, And then later on it gets to a point that
like he has his own son, like Mike and then mess and Xavier is
like, what are you doing, dude, Like this is your own son.
He's like, it's not my son, Like he's just so evil,
so cold. Yeah, exactly, there is no and there's no like he's
not torn about and sometimes that would be an for me an issue, like,
but the way they set up is like, yeah, this character wouldn't
be torn because he's very disappointed in his son. Like I love that line
when Magnetos like, oh, he was a former student of yours and you
couldn't help him, and he's like I couldn't provide him the help at his
father want, which was like getting rid of his mutae, you know.
So they like even in dialogue with Wolverine Xavier Magno, they layer the character
building up to be this big threat and he's just a human. He's just
a human resources but he nearly takes down the X Men, and he does
result in Jean Gray's death, So you know, he's pretty good, you
know. So, And then and the other thing I want to mention about
our The thing I want to mention that scene is I love the way the
actor that is Senator Kelly playing the mystique version. I love when they bring
up Magneto, she says like Eric and then Eric Lencher like she like at
first she can tell it's her, like just excited that she's figuring out,
and then she gets all official and whatnot. So that was good. He's
not ine of that much, but I think the actor did a good job
of playing like a more sneaky senator, you know. So that was good.
After that we got Wolverine, Return of the Mansion. We're introduced to
Bobby and Rogue back there playing uh, I don't know, thumbsies or whatever.
That was such a cringey scene. Forgot about it till you run.
It's like I'm gonna catch you. No, I'm gonna catch you. I'm
literally like playing like this. Adventures at Neverland Ranch Man was bad. You
have you have notes, Skyle because you pull out your phone, right,
I remember that girl? Is that what you're doing? Instead of Wrestlmania.
It's when Wolverine walks back walks and sees them together and he just says,
so, how do you do it? You know, he said how does
it? He's like, how do you? Guys? And then like what
are you insinuating? Like these are like teenage kids, like what do you
want? That's what he doesn't want to like, you know, like what
do you want to? Hear? Like why would you want to know the
answer to? Because that's why because Wolverine, though, is the inappropriate one.
He would be the run. That's why I always like the way he
Jackman plays him. He's just like at times, this dirty uncle. And
that's why I also like Wolverine because I can understand and appreciate that of like
he says things at the wrong time. He's not in a Deadpool way where
it's just comedic and it's so out there. Yeah, he just says things
at the wrong time, which I I do that. It's not even like
you're saying it for like a comedy like you said Deadpool. It's just that's
who he is. He's just like wondering, like and I think he gets
it. He knows they're like, he's not a teacher, he knows they're
young, he knows they want to get it on what not. So he's
asking you know stuff I guess, and they talked about like really like off
putting when he When I was watching, I was like, wait, what
why? I like? I like it just because it's just like he's the
cool uncle. You know, he's trying to figure out but it's a cool
un and isn't this is the that's the scene where it has Colossus and the
little kid and the little kid drew that picture of them kissing right, and
Bobby's hair is like all static and shocked up. Great little I like classes
in this movie. I know he wasn't in it that much. A few
scenes, yeah, but then yeah, Wolverine's back. He meets Bobby and
Rogue. He's interested. I like that Bobby is. Let's talk about Bobby
because he's in this movie quite a bit. We didn't get a sense of
a sense of him. To me, he's not as douchey as Piral,
but you can see how they can be friends because when he shakes wolverine hand,
for some reason, he turns his hand in the ice and pole in
that moment, You're like, oh, this is why him and pyal friends
because like that was like you don't need to do that, Like this guy
can kick this show Frosted tips man, you know. But obviously his main
struggle and that's why I do like like and we're kind of jumping ahead,
but I feel like we can do because we're about character. Also, the
main struggle is he's a nice guy but still like he wants to be with
Robe. But then also I love the stuff they do with his parents the
director and Ian McKellen, because Ian McKellen is a gay man and he sat
in on this like script part of the movie. They wanted to make it
like the scene where he saw his parents, like yeah, like a coming
out scene. I think they do that really well. I'm just like,
have you ever tried not being in me? Like, yeah, yeah,
I think he does. I think he's really good because I think after that
though, after the parents scene, he kind of drops off and he's not
really in the movie that much anymore, but the portion season and I actually
think Kevin Rogue have good chemistry together to actors, So I like Bobby a
lot in these movies, I think I would like more because I think Sean
Ashmore does a good job playing him, so but yeah, it was a
strange hand. You're gonna go off on any other movies that he's done that
we should watch. He was in the show called The Falling with Kevin Bacon.
It was a serial killer show that also got cance after one season.
Four four seasons. Four seasons, four season. It was good, but
it dropped off quite a bit. It was all about it was like,
it was just about this cop and a serial killer, and they eventually locked
the serial kill up at the end of the first season, and then after
that it's just like prolonging like the serial kill, like he escapes and then
they catch the escapes. It's just ridiculous. But I watched almost the whole
thing and I got canceled on a cliff. I haven't seen all four seasons.
No, once it got announced it was getting canceled, and I just
stopped, like mid four season because like, it's not that good anymore.
I like him making that's the only reason watching which Keim Bacon will pop up
in these X Men movies. Actually he's a villain one, so that s
what do you guys want to say about Bobby? For me, i'd I
think, yeah, Bobby like definitely was flexing. I think he did a
better job I think in this movie only because probably he has more screen time
obviously, and that uh you know coming out part was really like really interesting,
like he kind of really like pissed off with the brother for like calling
the cops, like, oh man, that's probably a little bit a little
weasel. His name was like Ronnie or something. They watched it. Probably
it was like he was just so like like right winging towards like the whole
idea of mutants. Now it was just like racist towards mutants. Was he
that or was he just mad he didn't get the powers? Well that's what
I was thinking. Actually I did not think that whatsoever. Oh yeah,
that he was pissed because he doesn't have powers and his brother does. And
and even then what a little bitch boy, like like I get it.
The idea of mute'es are new, Like the law wants to get the register
like they want they want them to register. But at the end of the
day, if my, if my, if Gwen comes to me one day
and says, like I have ice powers. It's not like the scariest power
out there. It's just like, great, you can come to the cookout
and get something mom's teeth, yeah, which he didn't need to, and
then the cat comes up and you could just hear the cat just licking the
ice as well too, which again Bobby just loves freezing ship. He didn't
need to do that. But uh, he's got a fush off like Roagues.
But I don't think the kissed, but they kissed in that. Oh
we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Yeah, I don't think
I power is like the most scary power. Okay, you got you're on
the least froze. That guy has mastered ice powers. Oh yeah, but
that's what I mean, like even in that room, like you super Soup
and maybe not Pyro, but like Wolverine, this guy who has a terrible
pass and is immortal pretty much or can live long periods. You got rogue
who can't touch anybody. Oh my son can create ice. Okay, that
like I could like it's such a you know, but I get what they're
going cool name. Yeah, ice Man reminds me of top Gun actually yeah,
oh yeah, same frosted tips basically. I mean, I guess my
father in a different generation, a different dimension. No, I like Bobby,
So that's all I got Bobby. Uh Yeah, I obviously I like
them more than the first one, since like the most screen time you had
was as mystique. Yeah pretty much. Yeah, and he made that Ice
Rose. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because like I wasn't really under the
impression that he was kind of like a like a not necessarily douchebag, just
like Buddies with Pyro, Like I remember thinking it was a cool dynamic,
like you have the ice guy with the fire dude. It's yeah, like
it's natural, Yeah exactly. And then uh, I agree, So you
don't think he was douchey at all in this movie. I mean when you
think about like the hard flex on Wolverine and the first movie as well too,
I feel it feel like he was a little douchey in a bit a
bite a girl Rose. Come on, now, is that douchey or is
that just like I think the way he did because it was like a show
off. But like if it was your love of your life, I guess
you didn't really know it happens love at first sight. It happened with Wolverine.
I mean, we're gonna get to that in the second. I mean,
yeah, I guess it happened too many ice roses. Do you think
he's made for your different females, suff because obviously that's not like his first
time trying it, that was a pretty good rose, or he was just
preparing for the right Yeah, overall, Yeah, I I agree. I
liked his chemistry with Rogue. I like, you actually like are rooting for
them like that relationship. It's just like, I know, obviously it's difficult
since they can't touch each other, but like maybe if they just love each
other enough, the powers won't affect them, and then you kind of like
feel that way, like when they first kiss and then she like how she
got like the bread. Yeah, it's so fucking hot. I'll just say,
it's just like and then it's just like it's going good and then it
takes a big one. Did you want to talk about that scene? Let's
just talk about now, because you know, we can come to the scenes
and we can just skip on and if I go in order, but we've
kind of done that now where we're using other scenes, So just yeah,
talk about the scene. Now, Well, I was asking you if you
wanted to go over That's what I mean. Yeah, sure, and you
can start. Uh. I like the frost breath. I think it's a
good scene. That the only thing that obviously the biggest talking point is so
so let's let's play. Let's have some fun here. What goes? How
long? Not in the way Kyle thinks, how long do we think?
Let's take a guess has passed between X one x two, Like, realistically,
I think it's been a year or two. I don't think it's been
a year or two. I don't think he's been looking for a year and
he got nothing. That's real. It's been like a month. I think
it's I think it's been anywhere from two to four, three to three to
six. I guess I'm just looking at because the kids were not kids,
they're teenagers, but they age. I mean, I guess it's the kids
age quick like look at those stranger things kids, they're gonna need a diploma
soon and they're getting so old, like look at them like Ben Wolfe been
Wolfar and that stranger for things three previous thought it was his dad. It
didn't look like Kim, so I'd say, like to me, it was
three to six months, and because yeah, Rode looks older, obviously got
some different hairstyles going on in those months. Storm has lost her accent,
so she's m I said that, I'm sorry. Yeah, he's just restating
it. Oh, okay, fair enough. So I just really agreed with
you, so honestly. So they get upstairs, they want to change clothes
and oh, my mother, I got some stuff that you can which is
just kind of weird. Yeah, but anyways, so and then he gives
her gloves from her grand and his grandma, which I didn't. My grandma
never get me in the gloves. So he's lucky good And then so anyway,
so she's changing and then then you know, he does the turnaround and
then she's changing. He just oh he turned He didn't even just peak like
he turned it. And we don't know because like, but then again,
I guess she'd be fair. They are dating, though, yeah, and
she never asked him to turn around. He did just turn around by the
same time what she she did. But at the same time, she never
gave like the we never saw the clearance, right, so it was it
was it was definitely a risky move. I don't know at a courtesy,
I feel like you would look away or ask I mean, good, look,
he's pretty thirsty though, Like he hasn't even touched this girl that he's
been dating for Let's be generous. Let's say three months, like what you
say, so no, they were like holding hands. He just can't,
you know, but he can't physically touch her skin though you're holding a Rubbert
glove your entire life. He's thirsty, ice man. Let's say that it's
like dating the Blue Man group. And then and then yeah, and then
they Kyle's faces see them this month? You brought that up? Oh nice?
And then yeah, the first kiss goes well, and then it sucks
almost the full life form and they start making out rogues just too into it.
She won't stop, even though I feelt you could definitely tell Bobby,
you know, his face is starting to sink in. But then they push
away and then that's the end of that scene. So I thought it was
pretty interesting that he was able to go as like as long as he did.
I thought, like a few seconds, like especially since like the first
boy, well especially like Mune though right, that's true, I know,
but like still like the first guy died real quick. Yeah, and then
I'm thinking woke up, but like that was really quick, so like,
yeah, even though he's a mutant, I would like r J. Middie.
I'm also comparing that to like just Logan and like how he reacted of
just like a few seconds, and like he's tough, Like, I definitely
don't think Bobby's as tough as Wolverine is. Well, maybe his ice power
slowed it down, and maybe his love, you know, maybe the power
of love, his love and it was kissing his lips, so maybe it's
different than hands, you know, say that tongue was in there. Come
on, let's be honest. God, maybe he's just he've been practicing,
you know what he needed though, he needed those lips from Batman and Robin.
Yeah, oh man, they'd be golden. Keep that tongue out though,
rubber lips. I got anything add on the scene. No, okay,
So let's talk about the other two love birds. So Logan's talking with
Rogue and Bobby. She gives him his well, no, that comes later,
and then he sees Jean Gray walking down those steps. Bobby, I
just realized you're not done with Bobby. I forgot to let's cycle back to
I forgot to mention I kind of like the chemistry between him and Wolverine after
like he was flexing on him, but like, you know, the little
conversation that they had in the kitchen is just like alright around here, I
guess not yeah, you got any beer? This is a school. Yeah,
I really like that if anything else other than Chocolate Hill. Yeah,
they're back and forth really good, and that can still transition we're talking about
because they're talking about like Rogue and how he wants to be with her,
and then and then he drops like he It's like when you're at work with
somebody and you've worked with him for a little bit but you don't know him
that well. But then they'll ask that question that clearly has passed the comfort
is that low the comfort line? Oh yeah, and if he just drops
like nothing, like I've seen the way you look at doctor Gray and just
like and Wolver's like he just goes there, doesn't even doesn't even prep just
like oh so like women in your life, Hey, just right away just
drops. Well I think he did that just because you know, Wolverine has
ready done that to him. Oh I know he has but this kid has
balls though still you know, like and it's different. Wolverine's kind of like
look dad figured, oh yeah, especially that's the scene where he's flexing big
time. So yeah, I think that's a great scene. And then yeah,
so we can talk about Gene and we'll do the same thing. We'll
maybe just talk about Geene Wolverine over the whole movie here, So this continues
again, like I'm biased because I love for me, it's Batman and Catwoman
and then after that it's Geene and Wolverine. Gen know o, ring don't
even have a big romance. It's just that kind of will they won't they
the guy trying to get the girl, because like I said, we've all
been there and I can relate that big time. And the thing is with
this movie they still do such like a minor job of these two, Like
why at all she making out with him by the X wing in the middle
of the movie. She didn't, She didn't try though he was definitely but
she was throwing tongue back, okay, fair enough, and then just trying
to push away. But even her saying like you know, I can't do
this, or don't make me do this, like it's do what walks away.
I totally thought that she was gonna do some like xaviery like stop time
and just like walk away, but yeah, that's actually doesn't and that thing
like it it feels that, like the way she says that line, if
Logan were to kiss her one more time, she'd be all in. So
it's just like, so we look at the events of the first movie we
talked about last podcast, but really they spent maybe a week together and lots
of stuff was going on, So just a few conversations, nothing personal at
all, and then in this movie, it's just it just feels like she
just wants She just is thinking about like should I marry Scott or do I
fuck this Wolverine guy? Like there's no like just more physically attracted to Wolverine's
Wolverine is this whole like all this could be love. And I love the
line like you know, uh, girls, you know flirt with the bad
boys, but they marry the good guys, which girls don't do that.
That's shitty your boyfriends. But then I love the line when Jacquan's like I
could be the good guy. It's just like you can see like he doesn't
believe it, like he's just saying that. But it's just such a poorly
done relationship. And I love it because but I have called book biased and
I think they have good chemistry, but it's just like why she even entertained
this guy, and it's just definitely just physically attracted in this movie. But
she's already like in a psyche, like she understands, right, we forgot
about that. But I take that as a way too she could understand frohim.
I don't take this way of like she should be considering leaving Scott or
thinking about it. I feel like she's not thinking about She's she's definitely not
thinking about Scott because she likes his vulnerabilities. But even though he tries to
act tough and he likes it because he knows she he knows that she knows
his own but enough to leave Scott, well, I feel like that's what
she's on the fence about it, to be on the I don't think she's
even thinking about that. I think it's just like when she's with Wolverine,
her body is just and then but like if Scott would Bobby, she would
she would just see Scott and then like that's my lover, Like Scott's like,
don't make me, and he's I've been with this guy for so long.
I stick with him, but this other thing, but I will mention.
So your point is just like you weren't buying it that they're just no.
I buy in two ways of like I think they do have good chemistry,
and I think that it's I'm biased because I love that relationship with the
comments. So right away when that happens, I'm thinking of all the comic
lore in the past, like oh yeah, there's this back and forth.
But then when I and I can enjoy it before this review, when I'm
like looking into it, it's really it's so thin, Like what's going on.
When I watch the movie next time, I won't care. It's like,
oh, yeah, they're in love, but or he loves her and
she's confused. But and you look at it, there's they've still when he
comes back, it's just like, oh, hey, how are you doing
it? It's a flirty scene. They leave. They have no other scene,
so there's not again, no like personal conversation at all other than like
Kyle said, like the mind reading, but you know she reads a lot
of minds. I would assume. Yeah, I don't know, Like I
agree with you, it's it's it's not well written. But like they definitely
kind of touched upon that relationship throughout the movie, like when especially like when
when she says, uh, does she I can't even really remember. Does
she mention that Wolverine will just like leave or something? Or am I just
imagined? Like when uh, Like basically when they're having that conversation with like
the good guy and like, yeah, no, I don't think she says
she leaves. She says the good guy sticks around. That's but it's not
like he fucked off for no reason. He went to about his past that
she doesn't care about that. She's like, come on, man, she's
trying to get a husband, but what was he supposed to stay? Then?
Well she could just tell him, but that thing she doesn't tell him
communication because she's got Scott. Why does she have to she's not, But
then why she thrown that shade of Wolverine for leaving. I think she's just
playing hard to get. I think she does. Don't do that girl,
but hear me out. So then later on when they're at the I'm just
gonna call it strike four space because I don't really know what it's called,
the hydro Dam. The hydro Dam, thank you, that's you guys,
heard an awful you're making me forgot The actual name is weapon. It's weapon
X, weapon X hydra Base. So when they're there, uh, there's
even like a scene when Wolverine takes off his earpiece and goes after Striker,
and I feel like when she realizes that, like, that's not him sticking
around, that's him fucking off and not really being there for her or let
alone the rest of the team. That's what I took from it, So
fair enough. I kind of maybe I'm just reaching, but I kind of
appreciate how they brought that back around. The good guy sticks around, you
know. Okay, I've never seen it, but that's good. I've always
taken as if she was worried for his life. But you know, that's
a good point because then after she finds Scott and then I feel like she's
just kind of settles with Scott. Though, don't you feel like she pretty
sure settles you know, what she wants. She's not this is consistent.
She wants that pension that Scott's got, like Wolverine and his line of work.
It's pretty risky. I know Cyclops has taken over that X mansion.
He's not doing anything, he's safe. He's just getting kidnapped all the time.
Yeah, Kyle, you got anything that on Wolverine Jeane Nomore Okay.
Uh. And then we got introduced to We're kind of all his place,
but I'm still going to or we get introduced back to Magneto. He's chilling
in his prison cell, not going well. It seems like every day he's
getting beaten, he's getting mind controlled. I like him what he talked so
much about this movie, and we're still like at the Big Canne. But
when we get to those parts we want to talk about, right, we
just skip over them. But uh, I like Magneto in this movie again.
His motives makes sense of he's gonna help stop the the Mutes from dying,
He's gonna work with the X Men, but then when he sees a
chance to stick to the humans, he's gonna take it. And that's why
I like where it's like the whole movie. He's good or not good,
but he's acting good. He has some snide comments like I love when he's
like a rogue he's like, oh, we love what you've done. Oh
my god, and it's him and mystique and it's like the high School I
love it. It's so good. But uh, but that's why I like
that. You think, oh, he's you know, not turning in the
corngers, He's gonna work with us this time. And then of course she's
like no, classic Magneia, like he has to turn around. So I
think e McCown's good as always, and he gets one of the best moments
of the scene of the breakout. It's just so cool. One of my
favorite scenes too. Macharron in your Blood and he gets back at that guard
that's just been beaten up. Yeah, never trust a woman, especially when
that's interested in you, and just it's so good, just like he's floating
on that platform, just those balls, just like the cinematography that scene.
At one point you're just kind of like following the ball like move around,
like it's just so well done. And then it kind of goes back to
the first movie. When he's on that platform, he's just making like the
bridge based out of the middle, Like it just goes to show like his
power and it's just like this is just from like iron in his blood or
from that guy's blood. Then how he can manipulate that. I don't know
if the science would work like that. I don't know, if you know,
I don't really create nothing, I mean something out of nothing, Like
he's got a certain amount and all of a sudden he's just like duplicated the
iron too. He definitely made it pretty big. It goes for like small
little balls of iron toolsend like plates, especially in the Yeah, yeah,
well that's what I meant. I meant more like when she hits him with
the you know that. Yeah, yeah, but you're not wrong, but
I know it's the ball off you spread out thin, you know, like
pizza, like a pizza. That's how you start telling pizza makes lots of
pizzas. But yeah, I think he's great all around in this movie.
So yeah, I love Ian McKellan is Magneto, so I'm pretty biased in
there, But in this movie, he I don't know, I just I
liked him more than the first one, like for sure, just because you
get a I don't know, it's kind of a different side of him,
Like there's a greater evil like out there that he has to be. Like,
Okay, guys like we kind of have to come together and stop this
because you know, we're mutants, Like we gotta kind of look out for
our brotherhood. Of uh, that's kind of what he's going for. He
didn't use quotations though I don't know I did. Brotherhood. They're like,
oh, we're not trusting. It's kind of the classic like keep your friends
close, but your enemy's closer. That's what I really enjoyed about this,
And I think, yeah, Ian McKellen did an amazing job. And even
when he, you know, confronts X Men, like he just says like,
oh, you guys are just nothing like he You're just a bunch of
goons. Essentially, you can't even fly a plane. I think it's what
he tells them, like, so I think, I don't know, it's
That's what I liked about this movie. It's just like he has to work
with the X Men only because right there's something that's greater out there that they
have to work together. I don't know, it was. It was great
all around. Oh he's he's so cocky, Like I love it, Like
the scene that you're talking about when they can't even flies, when he just
like brings down the ship and he's just holding it there. It's just like,
man, when will these people learn how to fly? Yeah? No,
he's great, and I like the there's a couple of scenes of like
him and Charles and I'm just so biased on that duo. I just whenever
like Patrick Stewart and I McKellen are on the screen together, they're just so
good. And yeah, I love it even uh, like we touched it
on it earlier. It's like when he was with with Pyro as well too,
like his chemistry with him just like kind of showing more of a soft
side, even though like he's being like manipulat like opening his mind of like
other ideas he should say. I feel like he he is saying when he
believes, but he's saying that in a way to maybe kind of twist him
a little bit. You never know, you know, he said, is
it what's the motivation is it? To bring them over? Does he feel
that? And I think McKellen's good at that acting because you can't tell.
It's like it could be taken either way. Yeah, exactly. And then
even he's shouting out to like Mystique or someone, oh it was Wolverine,
He's like oh wow, like she's good and and he's like you have no
idea, like very strange because they do sleep together at some point. So
I was wondering in the show in this franchise, yeah misteking, not not
an X two, not next No, what did I miss? Like they
always got they went in the tan. Yeah, they all wake up and
they're just there in front of the fire. Okay, cool, anyways,
that's all I got. Yeah, going back to the Pyro and Magneto on
the ship like really quickly is uh, I feel like like Ian mckeller,
I guess I call Magneto. I have like so many names in my head.
I have, I have Eric, I have Charles, I Ian mckel
or. Yeah, they're all mixed. Anyways, sorry for that. Like
originally he's just like I feel like he's not even really like having what Pyr
was talking because at first I was just like trashing him, right, He's
just like, oh is that that helmets? Looks so stupid helmet. Yeah,
it's just like totally trashed him. And like at first he's just like,
why are you even talking to me? Like you're so like pathetic blah
blah blah. And then he realized that he'd like, he's not really happy
with the X Men I find and then he's just like, I don't know,
I can kind of manipulate this guy. But at the same time,
like you said, it's definitely things that he believes in, but he can
also he's very influential. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you gotta
be if you're like Ale the Brotherhood, you know cult. Yeah, and
then at this point where we were it was back at the mansion when Wolverine
he's walking the cerebro. I just want to shut down because I really like
to see him in Charles Half. They just have a good banter back and
forth. Yeah. Yeah. I like when he's like, if you don't
stop smoking, I'll Jean turn you into a six year old girl. And
he's like, you can do that. And he's like, or I'll make
you think you're a six year old girl. Yeah, and he's like you
can do that. He's like, I'll even have Jean braid your hair,
and that was really good. And yeah, just the little stuff like I
always love how we talk about nightcoll Or Magneil on the first film, like
they're constantly showing off powers in this movie. He could have just put up,
but the fact that he puts on his hand and he's like, oh,
and I just love the way that cerebral schine. The cerebral scene is
shot from when he's thinking, but also when they're talking. There's just moments
where he puts down the helmets just circling around them and it's like zooming in
on them because you can tell Wolverine just so wants to get down to like
what is going on with him, and Charles doesn't. It's not he doesn't
care, but he doesn't have the answers for Logan what he wants to hear,
right, and Logan keeps bringing up like there's nothing there, and Charles
like there's thousands of mutants around the globe and he's like, oh fuck,
like come on in, yeah, yeah, I'm just here from my information,
like you need to read my mind again. So I think they have
good chemistry. And the other thing is though, also I don't have anything
more adding Xavier because he kind of gets the Scott treatment as well, Like
we see these few scenes, but then for the most the rest of the
movie, he's just pop like he's just a puppet, he's nothing, he's
just he's just acting out a fake imagination, even though it's just like he's
being really nice to a little girl, right, So there's not much character
for him in this and that's I think that's it's valid because I think it
works for this movie, and it's good because we have other performances of them.
But it is a little disappoint that way because you don't other than those
scenes with a Magneto and Jackman after that, you don't get really anything of
him, you know, at all. I Mean, I'm a big Pegic
Steward slash Charles Xavier fan, So I don't know, I feel like just
the way that this movie is written, I I was okay with it just
because that's kind of what had to happen, you know, Like you have
this mutant Charles Xavier that's just so powerful, and then the way that they're
able to like manipulate him into uh just like evil ways or whatever. Right,
So it was it was a cool theme. So I don't know,
without him having the Scott treatment, I feel like you don't really have this
movie just because he like he really is like the He's gonna end all life
basically, right. Yeah, And then it kind of just keeps going on,
where like the movie's bigger than just like one actor as well too,
there's multiple other stories that's happening, so he kind of i'd say, it's
not bigger than you Jackman, though he's the no, no, you,
you've walked out of the room, so you missed our g I didn't know
I was standing Rod, it's at the door changing my shirt. So no,
what I was saying is that it was good for like for Xavier to
be out. Sorry, like he he's not a main character only because there's
other stories happening as well too. Yeah, and then kind of what you
alluded earlier is that you know, we get him in other performances and we
get to see him, so it's fine that he doesn't have too much.
It's unfortunate because we obviously we want to see more and we want to see
more of everybody else. But I think it would make the movie like too
much going on. So it's just a lot simpler and easier to watch.
What do you guys think about the whole him talking as Gene and Scott just
like holding him looking like he's about to kiss the professor. You're jumping right
to the end it is. I mean, we're on the topic of Charles.
It's a scene that I love and it creaks me out at the same
time. But I thought he was gonna make out with it. I thought
he's gonna kill my god. I'm like, do it, you won't do
it. But I think it's kind of design that way in that scene.
I can't wait till we get to because that's one of my favorite superheroes of
all superhero scenes of all time. But it's a it's a it's definitely a
weird scene, but I think it's it's supposed to be, you know,
like, there's no way your love is talking to you the six year old
man. It's it's gonna feel a little off. I got nothing to add
more in this scene, so you guys don't need to talk about it if
you don't want to. But I just have it quickly in my notes is
when the Steak is trying to find out where Eric is in the computer lab
and she's like, I love it, but there's so old school of like
a printer like janitors slowly like putting up the paper. Yeah, but my
hang up is it was when she got to the computer. I know why
they did it for the movie because they wanted to be like, oh,
the Janner's coming and whatnot. But why would she turn back to being blue
at all? Why should she know? That was like a main focus in
the movie, not a main focus. But that was the point that she
likes. She shouldn't have to be like somebody else that she wants. I
know, but she's supposed to be sneaking around getting computer files. You can
see at that moment she shouldn't be like, I want to be myself back
to blue, Like you should wait until you get those files, because what
happens to if there's like a camera or something like it just felt cameras they
just did. I hate that because they did just to set up the whole
jannit. My lady has like long fingernails, so she can really type fast
changeing someone else anybody. No, I don't mind it. I think it's
just trying to show off the actress oi of the eise. Like what's the
point of having all that makeup and all that work going into it for nothing?
So yes, that's like like as if his chameleon, I don't have
much to have it more, Adam, it's change my mind. Yeah,
I don't like it. It definitely didn't get to me. I didn't get
to me. It's just that know what I have? Why would you?
Yeah? I am you know, you know, you know it's tuggared though
Nightcrawler because they tried to kill the present. So what happens is the teams
didn't remember the team's form off just to set up the transition. The team's
split off. So h Scott and Cyclops go with Or go to find or
go to talk to Eric Lencher, and then Storm and Gene are gonna go
get Nightcrawler, and then they leave Wolverine in charge. I think that's a
terrible decision. I don't know why they would leave Wolverine in charge if,
like some like they have nobody, nobody else, Like Wolverine hasn't even been
in the mansion for like two hours. Here's the keys, You're in charge.
I think it was more of a character building for Wolverine have to deal
with kids. No, it is, but it's like to think about from
a realistic standpoint. I just don't I get that. But just to have
nobody else there with you, like now, and they had they had Colossus
in charge, and then they're like and Wolverine. You can just kind of
wonder we're gonna tell them that, you know, their kids are smart,
they'll figure themselves out. Look at that they escaped, but they also got
captured. That kid that's watching TV, he did not escape. No,
you got triple shot right in the neck. Oh oh yeah, poor kid.
And then we allude to it. You get the scene of Eric and
U Exavier talking and then you get their reveal that he's given the information against
his will. And then they capture I guess, I don't know if you
guys have anything more to add to it, But they capture Charles and Cyclops.
Like we said, pretty easy, pretty easily take out the Cyclops laid
desk strike does But good scene. I love Xavier or Eric being like you
should have killed me when you have the chance, Like really good acting.
Yeah, and then if you do, you have anything that on the prison
not that scene. But I have a quick questions, so I note how
many any students are at the school? Do we know? Like a rough
estimate? I don't think there is, but i'd say like maybe fifteen fifty.
I'm thinking in the hundreds. I don't think it's in the hundreds.
I don't think it's in the hundreds. I think it's the biggest school and
everything. I'm thinking like one fifty to two hundred at this point in time,
though, I think so, especially to Kyle. He thinks it's been
a year since the first movie, so they've gotten a lot of student actors.
Probably, I think it's like fifty students. Wow, I think it's
in the range of fifty to one hundred, but like, no more.
Really, I'll take that, Okay, you're just wondering. I yeah,
I was curious because if they just leave Logan the keys to the crib and
you got to look over two hundred and fifty plus kids, I feel like
Charles, being the smart guy he is, wouldn't make that decision. I
hope not. He's not Dumbledore quality. He took fucking Cyclops with so yeah,
yeah, true, he sure should have took Storm or Gene or anybody
to push his wheelchair. He should have took fucking TV Switcher cared with them
have been just as useful as Scott. So then, anyways, we get
which is also one of my favorite superhero scenes of all time, is you
get the invasion of the X Mansion, Wolverine here's something while he'stum about Bobby
or talking to Bobby. We were talking about that scene earlier. And then
the guards come in and it's just Matt like he's just fucking murdering and mastering
every people. And I just remember that's also the thing like seeing this like
that is Wolverine. Yeah, and yeah it's not radar. Yeah you don't
see blood or guts like you doing Logan, but it's still working. He
kills that guy on the fridge, Oh it's and he's just yelling and that
jumps from the balcony and like takes two guys down at once and then the
third guy. But like I love that fridge kill because he does that and
just that yelly lets out and then when you see Bobby and it's just like
you're right, and Bobby's just scared out of his mind because like these kids
have never seen that, and I think Logan is just on a whole different
level. And then just the way like he sneaks up to one guy,
covers him up and kill like stabs on the back like everything, and that
line is just like when all these guards are coming, he's like you want
to shoot me, then shoot me and then it's like and he his veins
are pulsing in this scene. He's master Logan solid before that scene, but
this scene just start to finish. It's just an adrenaline rush and I love
it and just seeing stuff like there's one point where the guard's like trying to
sneak up on him and he just stabs them in the foot and it's like,
oh, it's so well done, and that'll it gets you really see
like what Wolverine could be. So I love that scene. I have another
quick question, so when how many guards said, ll know, when Wolverine
gets all like amped up like that, like, is it almost like like
a like a Bruce Banner moment where it's just like the claws just come out
and he like can't even really you know. I think he can control him,
but I think he's just like a rabbit animal where he's he's just out
to kill. Because like before that, like when he grabs the guard,
like he's not even like really like knife in him, right, And then
I think the guard, what does he shoot him or does he stab him
or something? I think, oh, because because that's when I really like
you just like try to sabhim, because that girl starts to scream and for
a second Logan like lets his defenses down the guy and then he just gets
so pissed. Just oh, I just love that, and then shot his
beer. You can just see the uh uh, his little holes in the
fridge from his nine. Oh yeah, that was harder for me to get
out. But I know that that whole mansion scene, it's not I mean,
it's a really good scene. It's not one of my favorite scenes of
the movie. Sounds like I'm degrading it by saying that it's just so good.
Let's just say it wasn't one of the scenes that I wrote down that
I wanted to mention. Wow, surprising. Yeah, I really liked it.
I haven't really known much more to say. Okay, fair just because
it's beat it and then lots of stuff happens. Kids are getting kidnapped,
Colossus busts out. That was a cool moment. And then that's Wolverine's first
team a striker. We've talked about that, but good scene. I love
that the ice comes up and that was really like visually, it looks so
cool when strikers on the other side of the wall, and just when he
grabs it like the dynamite. He was so close to getting hit by that
explosion. Oh yeah, And I like that because you can just see Wolverine
is so close to finding something out about himself and then he's just like annoyed
these kids. Well. I liked it though, because at first it was
when Colossus was like, I can help you, and then he's like,
no, help them. And then when Rogue and Bobby show up and they're
like like come with us, He's like no, I'm fine. It's like
we need like where do you want be? Yeah? Exactly. Oh man,
I love that. Yeah, whose car is his cycloss? Yeah that's
good. And then at this point is when we got through that guy earlier
throws Cyclops his keys. Oh yeah, your bike needs gas? Fill her
up, throws it back. He was so pissed. But okay, Cyclopes,
not this guy. I feel bad for Cyclopes. I was gonna say
he's justified. I feel like this car was in this movie more than he
was. This guy just shows up. He's trying to take my girl,
He's taking my car. He's yeah, he asshole. He's been with Gene
for years and this guy shows up for a week and Jean's questioning everything.
He's like a straight, anal guy that no one really likes. Scott takes
over he's watching the kids. I guarantee you Scott and Jean had like the
best sex after Wolverine got back. Oh Jesus, thinking about that, I
thought I lost you guys for a second there. I'm glad. I thought
you were saying, like when they got back from like alcohol, Like,
I'm like Kirkland, she died because I thought you were saying when Wolverine was
gone. I'm like, she's not alive. So Scott's just alone. One
thing I had to bring out this was the part where we talked about the
iron and the blood. But I had a notewhere, just the moment where
Mistique she's playing Rebecca rom Maine and they also have which is very strange,
but they have. I'm not sure if you saw a beast is on the
TV. Yeah, so it's when he's you know, not East yet.
So she's a little cameo. But when she said Deuces is sky and she
just like she's like Valcro nice. It's just like I've never owned a pair
of Valcro jeans or pants in my life whatsoever. So I don't know,
shorts shoes, no, because she's says valcyl nice and she so he's a
valcro zipper. I was thinking too PG. Yeah, and so you said
she was playing was that like her? That's her without the makeup, that
Rebecca Romain Stamos. So yeah, yeah, that's her because yeah, she
wasn't the first one. She doesn't make appearance in the third one and in
first class as well as like the actress. So that's interesting. That's fun
for he too, to especially first class sow they go back to that.
Yeah. So and then after this, like I said, a bunch of
stuff goes down. They find the cell phone they're trying to call Jeene and
Scull, Gene and Storm, Jeane and uh Storm Meat Nightcrawler. I don't
have much to say on those scenes because they're just, uh, it's being
revealed that Nightcrawler was played and mind Control whatnot. You get into some nic
was kind of like his backstory. He's religious, like I gotta whatever,
remarking for every sin, and him and Storm kind of have in chemistry.
Well there's a lot of weird so you kind of get you got like Jeane
Scott who's together right, then you got Wolverine who wants Gene and then you
got Mystique, who for some reason wants Wolverine, and then you steak.
Yeah, what happens in that tent? I thought she was just trying to
Oh no, she's like into him. Remember, no one's ever left a
scar like that before. You remember, you know what, I know exactly
what you're talking about. It's just like when she was watching him, like
in the camp, I almost had like serial killer vibes from her. But
then what happens after that? You thought she was gonna kill him? That
you feel like she had alterior motives and ulterior motives because you want to get
that. But then the Nightcrawler kind of has like a thing that he likes
Mystique, and then Storm kind of likes Nightcrawler. So there's like a fucking
like a watch Rupel triangle like love thing going on. So very strange things
to add, especially they don't do I say she was trying to get Nightcrawler
afterwards? Whose Storm? No trying to get Mystique? Because Mystique and Nikirl
have that conversation on camp hang on, just like you could be whatever,
and you know, Whitey change your voice when she walks away. The way
his tail is waving back and forth, it's like he, to me,
is attracted to her. Oh okay, I thought you're saying Mystique. No,
No, Mystique is all about that logan, you know, like,
which is just like, let's talk about that scene right now. Yeah,
it's like, now that you bring that up, I don't really understand the
relationship of what those two, Like why Mystique would be so all over the
Wolverine. I think Mystique I just always was. I think Mystique just likes
I get the impression from that character. She just likes to fuck and like
Wolverine is just like this god, yeah he's and she's she's fought him,
right, so she's seen the adrenaline and the energy this guy has, you
know. And it's such a great scene. But it's another like the Xavier
as Gene. It's such a weird scene when she's turning to other people turns
on a rogue, which is like, I feel like, not the way
you want to go on. Then I always laugh at the scene when she
goes, what do you really want? She turns into striker and I just
always laughed myself, just what if Wolverine was like yeah, and he folder
and like it took a weird turn. It's just because it's just weird.
They're making out and it's all like central and then she turns into Striker and
it's just like you, what's going on. I never took it that way.
I always thought I was just like I thought he was gonna kill her
if he wanted to, but he needed for the mission, right, like
you know, I don't know, I was just probably took it the way
you're supposed to, or it's just like he knows that guy has answers,
so that's what he really wants. No, I know, I never took
it that way. I just saw like I know after myself. But I
do remember as a kid, the first time I saw that scene, I
thought it was Jeane and I was like little like Jane and Wolverine comic book.
She got her jacket off, just like got the tank, like here
we go. Because I'm a big fan of Ultimate X Men and that is
Wolverine and Jane are together in it. At the beginning. She doesn't go
for Scott, she goes for Wolverine, but she leaves Wolverine Scott they well,
he doesn't have a bike, o car very very quick, I'll give
you quicks and offices read Ultimate X Men and Sparing. So they're together.
Gene is like sixteen and he is old guy. There together until Jane finds
out that Wolverine was actually sent by a magneto to assassinate Professor X. When
he gets the mansion, Wolverine has second thoughts and then Professor like accepts them
in but she was he was lying to him, so she breaks up with
him and then ends it with Scott, but they're together for a while.
Then Scott and Wolvering gold in his mission and Scott goes missing, and the
whole time it's like like, oh, did Logo do something blah blah blah,
And of course, like he doesn't get back together Gene, but he's
working his way up to it and stuff like that. And then it's revealed
that there was like these pack of like rabid munes that came after them,
and Scott was about to die and Wolverine just left him there. He just
left him to die, and Scott didn't die. He came back. He's
like, yeah, like he left me to die. What the fuck?
Man? So Jene kicks him out of the mansion. Months later, Wolverine
is just living in the forest, like literally eating raw meat, and Scott's
like you can come back, and you know, yeah, yeah he is
a good guy. But like they were together quite a bit. So when
I as a fan of that, when I saw that on the screen,
I was like, oh man, I love Gena Wolverine. Here we go
and then turns the mystique and but I like the reveal, like the little
scars from last time, like nice at all touches you know, where how
do we transition into this? Where were we? Uh? We talked about
Velcro nice, we talked about oh, we talked about Nightcrawler, and I
like write all the love stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, I like Nightcrawler
a lot. I have some other notes. But after but yeah, I
thought all this stuff was it was fine. He was just to like establish
what was going on with the brainwashings. Yeah, I uh, nothing much
more to say because like after that introt scene, he's just kind of like
decide character, Like he saves rogue. That was pretty cool. Yeah,
but like doesn't he have to see where he's going? Well, you like
mentioned that, and I know that there's he can see the air, but
she probably don't give me that ship. Well, that means it was in
him the whole time. That's what I forgot to mention in the the love
whole triangle thing. The reason they don't do in these movies, but the
reason it's a little weird is because of the comics. Mystique is Nightcrawler's mom.
So as a combo fan when that was going on, when I saw
the first time, I was like, this is fucked up. This is
really weird. But obviously they didn't do that that storyline, but that's best.
Yeah, that's why he's blue. He we meet his father in the
series. Coming up, we'll get into in first class. There's is a
mutant. Oh yeah, as Azel, he's a he's a teleporter. Of
course. What's the family comes from? The from the male gene? Apparently
I learned in this movie. Ye ni Pyro, so it's his fault.
You got anything mad, Nightcrawl? What's the next scene here? We got
here? The next scene was it's them on the road. They're still calm.
The Bobby scene we talked about with the parents. Ronnie calls police are
burning up. They get they they get all the X Men meet up at
the parents they're flying, they're gonna go. I guess they're flying el Kylake,
right, I think, yeah, because well even though they don't even
know where they're flying to at this point, right, they just pick up
Nightcrawler and they're just going to jet. That's when they get hold of Logan
Meato and then they're trying to like well and then the Jets, remember,
they take them out, and that's when we see like Gene for the first
time he's in Phoenix stuff because she goes all hamm. She can't do it
the second time. One thing I do like is when okay, Rogue goes,
Nightcrawler gets or whatever. I do like, when they're about to crash,
Wolverine just has his look of you know, like not disappointment, but
just like he's just like looking at Geene for the last time. Because if
you think about that's anaro that plane is gonna crash and everyone's gonna die,
but he's gonna be completely fine. And I just think about it like that
must be an awful life to live, you know, like you think,
oh, I could go out, but if he you know, that's saying
this one. He loves this woman. He's gonna see this woman die right
in front of him. You know, nothing he can do, but nothing
he can do. And then yeah, we get the camp scene. We
get they read Nightcrawler's mind because he is uh, he's been now kay Lake.
And then at that point we've talked about with Striker, but that's with
Xavier. That's when they're like, this is Jason and you were a student
and you didn't, you know, do good job with him. He tried
to make my wife kill herself and stuff. I like all the Jason's stuff.
It's minor, but I think that goes to the Xaber was it was
needed. I like it. I like his look that looks like he's looks
like he's been through hell yeah and back. Oh yeah. And then at
that point it's kind of like the end of the movie where they are like
they send a mystique, mystique with one of the greatest poses of all time.
When they figure out it's not Wolverine, she does she's kicking ass.
Then she slides and she does that finger so good, so good, and
then we just got the whole We can just talk about the ending in general
because we got we got Striker, well, we got cerebral getting switched back
and forth. We got Striker on the run, we got like called it
so cerebral to not like just cerebral cerebro. Sorry, Yeah, they like
come on the l silent like they just didn't like rename it. They're what
should we call it number two? Yeah, even though it's I feel it's
a lackluster edition, like come on, they're like missing all the panels.
Well obviously because he don't know. That's why they take uh, like cerebral
and it hasn't it half Eric? No, why am I getting these names?
That's why they take them so they can figure out what they need to
finish Cerebra two. You mean like Exavier while they take Exavier. No,
I think they take Exavi because they need him to work the machine. I
think once they break down when they're in the mansion they have that break in
scene, I think they can figure out the schomats there. But I think
they need him to work because Jason can't be trusted. You can't put him
in that machine. And then you got other stuff in the end, Like
does Jason the Professor have similar power? Because I thought Jason's power was just
that he could control people I think they do because that moment my needle walks
in and he tries to read a mind and he just pointed to the sound.
So I think I think it might be a lesser version. I don't
think he was. I thought he's like trying to mind control. Well I
think that, no, But remember too, the striker says that he tried
to make he implanted like bad thoughts into his wife slash mom's brain. Right,
so he can't do similar that, Yeah, well yeah he could if
he wanted to. Bastard, he probably did that with genies like oh you
like Logan, don't you? No, you're yeah, you better stick with
him. And then you got Scott attacking Jean. You got a whole bunch
of the ending. So whatever you guys want to talk about, just save
up Jean's death. I'll say that, okay. Yeah, I quarly wanted
to mention. It was one of the scenes I wrote down. It was
pretty pretty short, but I just loved it. Was when they're guarding the
door to Cerebro and then Magnio just pulls the pins of all the grenades.
Oh yeah, it was so good. There's nothing you can do at that
point, right, you're just not right. You're just done, you know.
And one thing I forgot to mention in the plane scene when Rogue went
out, imagine if that's how she died, and how awkward the rest of
the trip would have been. Like they land the plane, but like Rogue
just fucking got flown out their plane. She would just wine got sucked up
into space. Yeah, but that's I mean, you're not gonna have her
body. There's nothing to bury, like just awkward campfire when that's gone.
So think thank god Magneto was there. I think night Crawler could have saved
her, though he did save her. Oh yeah, I'm saying I had
a moment. I had a moment every day. Oh my goodness. She
can't fly though, remember I talked about she can't fly in the comics of
Rogue. But when she remember I talked about X one review when she meets
Captain Marvel, she holds on Captain Marble long enough to get the flying power.
So in this not in this universe? H yeah, Kyle, what
do you want to talk about? The ending? I kind of like the
sequence that kind of happened and unveiled, even though like the whole Striker and
Wolverine part was kind of weird, like he's like, oh, you're gonna
like kind of basically stay here, and like ties him up in chains and
then somehow Striker gets out of these chains. Like it's kind of weird,
but what do you mean when he gets out his hands and then Magno just
fucked him up with those chains, Like, oh man, he was not
uncomfortable position. You can't even see like Logan, she's like trying to talk
ship but he can't even look at it. I thought like Magneto was gonna
end his life right there, but he does. Thought he was just like
well because you know, he was dying, So I think he want him
to die in like a painful way. I like the Xavier mind thing going
on, so I think that was his motivation. Classic And the other thing
we didn't mention is what do you guys feel about the Lady Death Strike fight?
Because I that was obviously a huge set piece. Logan got his ass
kicked. Let's just mention that she's definitely more trained than he was. He's
just a brawl or she was moving on him big time. She definitely had
good moves. It was just like that one scene like when she comes out
of the tub and she just stabs him like right in the spine, look
like like fuck. Oh, Logan looked like he was hurting. I was
feeling it, like it was. It was pretty rough the way she died.
That was pretty gruesome, though I'm not Yeah, even Logan was like
yeah, but uh no, I I liked it, like when before she
gets dropped into the tub and then he's kind of on top, and then
like that cage drops and just like dunks her. It was a cool scene.
Yeah. No, I don't really have much else to say. Oh
yeah, I love that scene. I think the build up's really good.
To her nails. I think when they like reveal that she can heal,
and then just when she even does, like her nails and warm and just
like holy shit. Another thing I was thinking about though, uh actually,
like when Logan has his knives in her and then like that's when you see
her kind of heel. Can you not just like go like this and just
cut her body half? Or is it the am Well, she's animanti,
right, so he's just thinking like I wasn't thinking about that until I started
talking about it, Like he didn't really think about either, because I think
he should assume the second he saw those claws. But I love that one
moment where he does stab or any real like he says the Holy Ship line.
They fight for body, stabs her things he has her and she starts
to heal. There's just such a great camera shot when like she wraps her
legs around his chest and she starts to climb, just like the camera movement
like following her and you see like her physically like move his claws out of
her body. Just the music, just the build of that scene. That's
so good. And there's just a little moments where they're fighting and she'll get
behind Logan and she's say, like she stabs like fifty times in the back
of these little bears. Like it's so because like Logan's more like just like
the wild Mack. Yeah, Like, and I like the way she does
even though I feel like he Like I don't feel like she would have been
dumb enough to really fall for that, you know, Like I feel like
I feel like he did beat her pretty easily. I like the deaf,
but he did beat her pretty easily. And at this point after that fights
you got Jean and Scott. Scott was evil. He shoots the damn accidentally.
Uh, and then she knocks him silly and he's back, but he
also hit Gene, so she's uh limp in the whole time. And then
they meet up with Wolverine because I think we'll all right. Wolverine found about
the opera, right, so he's gonna go tell everybody that there's a helicopter.
And then it was right here, you know, like we got that
scene off we talked about early Pyro left, he went with Magneto. Roe
comes in and flies in very terribly. But it's funny. I was gonna
mention because I like, though there's a reoccurring bad landing in this movie too,
because the first one he was Scott and then this one it was Rogue.
Just like, man, nobody knows how to fly that thing. I
mean, I'll give ro okay, I'll give Rogue credit because he's never flown
anything before, but like, come on, Scott, And then there's one
useless There's one note I wanted to shout out the house they get Xavier.
Well, there's two things I wanted to shout out, one with Nightcrawler and
Storm when they go, and I tweeted it out at the time, So
you guys, yeah, I saw that. Interesting. I did not notice
that. So there's a scene where Storm and Nightcrawler's mission is to go find
the kids. So they find the kids and Nightcrawler teleports down. I'd never
noticed that Google after people brought up but in the scene, so they show
the kids down in that little basement and then they go back up and Nightcrawlers
Andthing bams down. But the very first time they showed the kids, Nightcrawler,
the actor's just standing in the shadows like you're not supposed to see him,
but he blinks like multiple times. Like it's probably because like I have
an HDTV now it's Blu ray, so maybe on a TVD or whatever.
Wind knows it, but I'll show you after. It's so bad. He's
just standing there but he's not supposed to be in there, so because it's
supposed to be like when he bams, he could just walk out in the
light, right, Yeah, and he does that. But it's like,
when they film this, why wasn't he just off the side. Why is
he standing in the middle of the room. You can just see him standing
right there. It's so frustrating. But yeah, and then they also that's
when Nightcrawler finally can teleport uh and they save the uh the professor. I
hate the last thing Storm says before they go in there. She says,
don't believe anything you see in there. There's a little girl. What's the
first thing Nightcrawler does? What's a little girl? He's such a fucking idiot.
Oh it is percent And like, I wish he was in the third
one because I love, I absolutely love the banter him. Wolverine have this
small banter just like, oh man, I love every time you try to
say his name. That's why I made it my title today. It's just
so funny. He's like, in's the Cuckus that was the Incredible knights Crada
because like what like we forgot to mention that. But when they meet out
with the whole team, Wolverine gets in there and the whole team sees Nightcrawl
and he's like good and time meet him for the first time. They all
sit down and Wolvern's like, who's this guy. He's like, my name
is Kurt vogn but in the circus and he just goes, ah, save
it, and Nightcrawler looks so mad, like like he cut me off,
like that felt like and Weedon didn't write that, but that felt so Avenger
avengersy that scene right there, but just soa but yeah, so that's how
they get out, like like I already said, like he tries to say
his title like multiple times in the movie, Oh my name's cut Vodka,
but you can call me. And then they Outsmart Jason, but not really.
I don't understand how that scene works because I feel like the second they've
gone there, he should be able to if he's already in their minds,
he should just control them like that. But whatever storm makes it really freezing,
Jason lets go. They save Exaver, they all get on the plane
that rogue crash landed. Like we talked about other Striker, Striker's well,
he's not dead, but he's about to die. He's stuck, and he's
offering Wolverine a chance to find out about who Yeah, you can found who
you really are, your survivor. No, Logan stays and then we get
the scene of the ship's not working. Wolverine for some reason, who we've
never seen flyplane gets up there and it's like, what's happening? Like,
I don't know how you're gonna help butgan whatever, and then Jeane makes the
decision that oh, I gotta go out there and make the save, and
she powers up the ship, she lifts it up, and then the big
crash happens and she's gone. And the reason I'm leaning off with this is
because this is one of my favorite scenes, just like the expansion. Kyle's
hearing me ranch about the scene before. But yes, the setup of it
is not great, but it's definitely my baggage of he Got And this is
when the Scott stuff is good. When you got these two guys who love
this woman to get like both but it's like in so much different ways,
and one guy's actually with her, one guy wants her, and she dies,
and just that scene of like Scott's crying and Wolverine's just holding him up,
just like telling him he like and you would think that'd be the other
way around, but he's one saying like, no, she's gone. She's
gone. And I was like, no, like we can get her,
like you don't say that anything like that, but he's like yeah, yeah,
and he's like, no, she's gone. That's probably because Wolverne just
had like a shit life, so he knows well it's not gonna work out.
But that scene is, like I said, with the so like how
it's written so little, that scene, to me just always hits it home
for me. It's just like, it's such a heartbreaking scene. These two
guys that love this woman and hate each other, but in that moment they're
embracing just because it's like they both lost something. And it's good because the
next thing we see them, they're back to being like, not talking,
not really friendly. Scott doesn't care when Wolver's like she chose me. It's
like, well, yeah, she's been with me for years and she's known
me for two weeks. But like that scene, I fucking love that scene.
It's so good. So including the professor that that's in the medium,
I think I do like it. I do like it. But definitely the
crutch of the scene is Logan and Scott just try and hold each other up
and Hugh Jackman with some heartbreaking crying action going on. Yeah, it was
convincing, so sure, so good. I guess, Like my question would
be, why couldn't she just do that from inside the plane because she needed
to die? No, I don't, I get I guess because you'd have
to like it's like a lifting technique, right, so like how could she
you know, like I'm trying. I did say it's because the script needs
it too. I don't know. I guess I don't know. Like I
said, she has to look like that. I don't know. I have
no clue. Yeah, okay, or no, she had to Maybe she
couldn't start the water by being in the sh ship. Oh maybe, So
it's like she has stopped the water and then lift where if you're in the
ship and if you try to stop it, maybe it wouldn't work. You
would break the ship from trying to stop the water and then rogues flying out
again. No, just wondering. Yeah, I don't know. I I
like to see. It's funny. For the amount of times that I've seen
this movie, like when I was younger, I did not picture or I
did not pick up on the fact that she's like dark phoenix or like in
the like and like you can see it in her eyes and then at the
end, like you see the actual phoenix. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
So I guess we're kind of at the end now. So uh,
like at the end, Charles is like teaching his classroom and then he kind
of looks out the window. Is that because you like he feels Gane out
there. I would say yes, but the second movie or the next movie
does not touch upon that all all, so you'd have to go no.
But I feel like that's what was meant to be, like, Oh,
she's still out there. That's what I have to mention, like with the
dark Phoenix moment as well too at the end before they cut to the credits
with the phoenix. Yeah, and then I have to mention this. You
guys probably didn't see this or knows it, but Wolverine shirt in the last
scene is something ugly and it makes no sense why he's wearing this. Just
go back and look at it. Just a fun noise. It's just like
it's just very strange that he's wearing this shirt. He's wearing Hans clothes pretty
much, and his hair is obscenely tall in the scene as well. It's
wicked in there. Uh one little This is kind of like a trivia thing,
so good. I have my own trivia and I picked it up in
the movie. I didn't have to look into it, so I'm pretty proud
on this or something. I don't have to look it up. I'm pretty
proud of this. I don't know. I don't get my own trivia very
often, so this is my one. But uh, in the scene when
Charles goes and meets Eric in his cell, he's reading, uh, the
book's called The Once in Future King. And then at the very end before
I think actually I think it's after Charles like looks out the window, he
asked his students, He's like, has anyone read the book The Once in
Future King? I don't know. It's super minor. I just love that
I picked that up. And I'm like, I'm gonna mention that. There
you go, thanks guys. I don't have any trivia, but I think
one of my favorite quotes is at the near the beginning with the Senator and
Striker, and Striker is just looking at this guy because he's the Senator is
kind of like questioning him what he's doing, and Striker's just pissed off,
and he says, so I was flying spy planes during your mama's during the
Vietnam War, while you were second your mama's titties during Woodstock. And I
just thought about that, like word who just sat down and like came up
with this line, of like and they're like they look the exact same age.
So yeah, I was thinking that too. Yeah does his work,
but I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, Okay, a few trivia.
So it wasn't as much casting this time because obviously lots of the return
people coming back. But on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno hashtag fu jay
Leno, Hugh Jackman related a story about something that happening during filming of Weapon
X flashback scene while he was filming the corridor run in the which he is
nude, and that's that, like that's you know. Uh, he turned
the corner and saw the female cast members also Jane Marson's mother, who played
Cyclops, waiting for him, hooting, hollering and waving dollar bills at him.
So that's good. That must have been. But you have to look
it up. So that's true. In that scene where and there's tons of
trivia, you're just going to be I just picked some of the funner ones
or talking points. Uh, the scene where Xavier freeze everybody, majority of
those people were mimes really really obviously used to doing that sort of like I
can kind of tell that like they were actually just standing still. But that's
interesting because I was waiting for someone to blink or something, because I don't
know when when you kind of pick up on that, you're like, I'm
gonna look for someone that that fox up. Yeah. Neil Pactor Harris audition
for the role of Nightcrawler but lost to Allen Cummings because he could speak fluent
fluent German. Wow, fair enough, let's see here. That's not as
exciting as I thought. It was. Sometimes some some naked in here after
me, like I don't know, it was like late night trivia one hundred
percent oncoming Nightcrawler. The guy who played Nightcrawl left the franchise after one movie
because the crew believed it wasn't worth going through the long preparation. This also
includes the fact that Cummings did not enjoy putting on the heavy makeup because his
appearance was so minimal. So it was written into the video game series,
which I did play, that Nightcrawler decided to leave because he's no longer wanted
to live a violent lifestyle that the X Men had to endure. So I
did play the X Men three game, and it was very strange when the
game was coming out because it was these it was like let's say six levels
reached character and he played some as Bobby Some's Wolverine and then Nightcrawler, and
it was like six there, six air, and six there. So when
it was coming out, I was like, why is Nightcrawler? And this
game's not in the movie, but they do do this whole seekers, Like
I can't live this lifestyle anymore, so just rode off in a game.
We talked about this, and I just wanted to bring this up because of
X one. So I don't know where they were placed or went on this
where I would ask you, guys, I guess just the Brotherhood. But
Tyler Man who played saber Tooth, and Ray Park who played Toad, were
originally set to return until they felt the script that was already overloaded with too
many mutants, which I think is fair, But I don't know, like
would they have just been with Mystique and Magneto I've been in the role.
I don't think they would have had much to add to the role or anything.
So I can understand from their point of view, it's like, well,
why am I going to be in the movie where I'm just kind of
a bagoon? But like there's nothing that I'm adding to the script because I
feel like even Storm and Gene sometimes have not enough stuff to do. So
if you would have added these two, and like I said, I assume
they would have been and those two are more like character like uh, to
build up other characters more than anything else. Cyclotes would have been like oh,
I was gonna say Cyclops and Toad like version two. Like, I
guess the only thing you could have done is they could have been also like
dark versions of themselves and fought. But it's like we'd already seen that,
right, So there's nothing nothing there, But I guess they were asked,
so this is a fun one. After production was complete, Hugh Jackman was
offered the role of Frank Castle in the Punisher movie that came on two thousand
and four, but turn it down as the opposity of Van Housing. At
the same time, first of all, Vown Hassling not a good movie.
But wow, that's an episode we got to do one day that it's such
a weird world where we live in now. It's like a big deal where
people are pretty exclusively the roles. It's funny that he finishes X Men and
then right after that they're like, hey and it's different. Actually, I
don't know if it was different anythink Punisher might have been with Fox as well.
It's just like no one thinks, like, oh, he just did
a Marvel movie. Is it a weird thing? They just know, do
you want to play the Punisher? And it's just super It's so weird to
think about that, Like I'm so glad that didn't happen because I like this.
It's just this pure wore dream. But it's such a weird thing to
think that they offered him this role. You know, like what didn't they
do it with Chris Evans? That was years later though, right like when
when Fantastic fourteen that was two thousand and seven. He didn't play cap until
ntil like twenty eleven or something, so I like three or four years where
this is like it's still like pretty close, but not right after he finished
shooting X three and then like after hey do you want to play the Punisher?
And like it's like, hey, do you want to get a drink
at the end of the day, Hey do you want to get you want
to go play the Punisher? Yeah, it was just a strange fact.
I don't know, And this is what I want to ask you guys where
he would fit in this is It's just the minimum. This is all I
got. Shaquille O'Neil badly wanted to be in this movie and actively campaigned for
a role. That's all I got. I don't know what mute and he
would be. No, I don't think he would be mune. I think
Shaquille O'Neill, like Shaq would just play himself. Really, yeah, that's
great. Like what he could be doing is he could have been having like
a meeting, you know where Striker jumps into the building at the beginning and
the President's not really doing anything, He's kind of just chilling. You would
open the movie of the president meeting Shaq, Yeah, the president to that
that or like some sort of thing where like Shaq is just more of a
cameo than anything else. You couldn't he couldn't be a character. Was he's
still like even though he is a active Like was he still playing basketball?
Oh for sure? Two thousand and three, Yeah, one hundred percent.
He could have He could two things. I thought, one's real and one's
a joke. One he could have been something mystique turned into like quickly right
like for a cameo, oh yeah, and get some situation. And my
second one is because he's maybe not the greatest speaking lions. He could have
played Jason, you know, Striker, this is my son son, and
he has hey, we don't know what his mom is, right, and
he has like the like the whole thing, like the eye and the baby.
Oh no, That's the only reason I thought was just because it's like,
well he did. He wouldn't have to act, really, he just
has to sit there and like make eyes so or he could have played the
little girl too, like in the way or whatnot? What if they want
him for Nightcrawler, I'm going off. According to Brian Singer, the director,
he convinced the idea of this because it's fucking nuts idea of Jean Gray's
death midway through production. During filming of the museums scene, he probably met
with Fimpkin Jensen to discuss the concept of Jane dying at the endless movie with
the allusion to her return of This Phoenix and X three. Johansson was enthusiastic
about this, but just to think that the ending of their movie midway through
production like change and that does happen a lot, but It's just so funny
when you see a movie that to me end up being good that that stuff
happens all the time when we hear like set reports and stuff going wrong.
Now we just hear about because we have the internet and summer reports. But
back then Midway that means like there's some anywhere she survived or nothing happened.
But just Midway he pulled her aside like hey, I think we're gonna kill
you off, and just like, yeah, that's great, let's do it.
It's just like that's fucking nuts to me, Like, and that's like
a big thing. That's like the whole I think that's the crux of the
third act, is her sacrificing herself and everything. It's like this Midway thought
like, oh we should do this, Yeah, let's do it. It's
crazy and this is just a weird one. I don't know why they want
to do it. Originally idea was Jean Gray was temporary an blind after her
violent Reunita Cyclops. This was initially filmed as such, but ditch churing production
and I thing when Wolverine shuts the damn door down saving the X Men from
the Wolf of Water, Jean Gray is the only character not looking at him,
so that was because they shot her as playing blind. I don't understand
if this was the reality where they were planning and killing her off. Why
are they gonna make her blind? Like it's such a weird thing. We're
gonna make you blind and then ten minutes later we're gonna kill you. It's
like, whoever had the idea like, let's not do this during production?
That was a good call because that was just like why it's such a strange
thing. Yeah, ratings, that all your trivia, that's all trivia.
There wasn't as much fun ones because Xtra you, I think will be better
because not like Nightcrar was really the only person that was new striker. They
kind of decided like they wanted him early on, and even Alan Commings was
the first choice. The reason they started auditioning other people is because he had
another project, but because X two took so long, it got delayed,
so he ended up being free again and they could bring him in, but
he was always the first choice. Yeah, I'm glad that happen. Yeah,
I'll give my rating first. I'll give it a nice seven and a
half out of ten. I thought it was still like a good, solid
movie. I enjoyed it definitely more than X one. I don't think like
there's lots going on in the movie to follow, But at the same time,
it was a lot better of a story than X one for sure,
kind of overall with you know the what we said earlier, with the main
protagonists, sorry antagonists character you know, the other X Men and Magneto's team
had to work together to fight this guy, so that made it more enjoyable
of a movie to watch. So I don't really have anything negative. It's
just a good, solid watch of a movie. I would probably watch it
again, to be honest. So yeah, seven and a half. Yeah,
I'm gonna give my rating based on my last rating. So if my
last rating was a seven and a half, I'm gonna give this one an
eight and a half. And then if my last rating was an eight,
I'm gonna give this one. And I think it was seven a half seven
and a half. I think I think it was seven and a half.
I think it was seven and a half because I know, I know you
went seven. I think I went seven and a half. You went higher
than me, So yeah, I'll give it a I'll give it an eight
and a half. I don't know, it was just it was like watching
the first one, I really enjoyed it, and I'm not gonna lie,
like i'd probably watch it like in the near future, But watching this one,
it just fixed a lot of issues that I kind of had with the
first one. And I just really like how Magneto and Mystique kind of like
joined forces with the rest of the crew. The villain. I know,
Magneto is a great villain and everything, but I just feel like Striker had
just I don't know, he's just written as a better villain in this movie
as opposed to Magneto in the first movie. Because the first movie it's it's
pretty like bare but or it's pretty basic of a concept, like Magnio was
just like gonna set off a bomb, you know, statue livery like it's
like you throw mutants to the side, and it's basically just like a terrorist
attack basically, whereas this one it's you think that like, I don't know,
it just takes you on so many different like rides of you think Striker
is the good guy or the human good guy, but then he's just a
total nutbag and just like yeah, he's just off the loop. So I
don't know, I just really liked it. And yeah, I love this
movie. Oh yeah, yeah, I love this movie. I couldn't give
it the I think I food. Ask me when I first saw this,
this was a full on ten out of ten. But as I'm older,
I said, some acting, some moments, some writing, there's some very
thin characters, but like I said, had some of my favorite com book
scenes. I love the dynamics of the heroes and villains, great villain,
a striker, some really good performances, and I feel like this is the
moment when Hugh Jackman feels like he's Wolverine. Like I said, it's just
great. I love that mansion scene. I man, does he look damn
good too in that for had to mention with like just the just he's just
in great shape compared to it and obviously he gets bigger, But like,
I think that's the shape I want to be in one day. I don't
want to be in his like the Wolverine when he just fucking massive. But
I think he's a he's a good shape here, even though I think he
should be massive. That's a whole nother story. But yeah, I love
this movie. I could watch this movie again today. It's just some good
moments. So yeah, yeah, anything else, I'm really excited to watch
the next movie. Oh that's definitely the movie I remember the least out of
these three. See, I don't really remember watching any of them first,
so it's like a first time, like all these moments like oh, like
in the tenth like, oh, you knew who that was? I was
like, I thought it was Gene at first, like completely fooled obviously,
So you thought Gene was just saying screw it and just gonna jump in the
well. It was kind of it was very suss at the beginning. It
was like what's going and then that happens, like, oh, okay,
that makes sense. So you're suspicious. Yeah you didn't know for sure what
you're suspicious. Yeah, but yes, the next episode will be at X
three and that's gonna be an interesting one. That is one that people kind
of think kind of started the downfall the franchise. And there's some there's some
good talking points in there. So the Juggernauts in that movie, right,
Juggernauts in there, Dark Phoenix is in there. He got mutants. There's
tons of mutines in this movie. So yeah, So if you want to
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just like cut? He just cut us? You did like an audio?
Wink too? I heard it? Yeah, what was the first one?
We did? Have an excellent day. All right, and we're gonna change
it every time. Yeah, okay, but you're not gonna tell us.
I don't know how to. I didn't know how to say extraordinary really slowly
because it starts with X. And we will all look at each so on
this ratchel somehow because we're not like, if we're doing X men, that's
a team basing. But we're not gonna be a team. It's just gonna
be whoever can figured it out, whoever can figure out an X pun first,
is gonna go. We'll pro Kyle, because I totally forgot about the
X pun. That's why I was looking at you. Was like, oh
I think I got I thought you're just looking up in the sky. I'm
like, we're losing Kyle here.