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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports

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two, SAG and iHeart Radio Station. Hey, welcome to I on the

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Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. We're

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hoping you hear us. Maybe if
you don't hear us, I guess you

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don't. Still let us know.
If you hear us, let us know

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that. Yeah. Yeah, but
if you don't tell, say where are

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you guys? Yeah, because we're
here, our board is acting funny today

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and so we can't hear We can't
we can't tell if we're on the air

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or not. Right, We would
appreciate a text from somebody to say that

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that you hear us. Yeah,
okay, okay, we'll go on as

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if you do sooner than later,
because we're a minute it uh. Today's

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Tuesday, right. NBA starts tonight, thankfully, some more to talk about.

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Yeah, yeah, a lot of
stuff last night. We have some

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pretty good guests, are hoping that
we get to them. With a CEO

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coach winning the title last night for
a title beating the sub I guess Scott

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still sul up in Phoenix yesterday in
Tempe. Uh, so we'll talk to

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Jason. Heisi former you of a
baseball player and a longtime baseball coach.

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Yeah, you know, God,
I mean Ja, I mean Jason.

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We's a freshman at what years in
Arizona. But he was I think he

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was on that eighty nine team that
long ago. Scott Ericson had not only

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been long when not that long he
was. He was a freshman that year

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with Lexinter and those guys that team. Yeah, yeah, ok, j

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snow he was a very good team. I think he was the number three

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starter that year. Very good team. Just yeah, a recollection of it.

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And Nick says he can hear us. So let's oh okay, cool,

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cool, cool? Yeah, is
Nick in the in the room?

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He can get Nick? Yeah,
we get it's weird. Yeah. So

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everybody said, okay, I got
one of more text messages, so we're

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odd. All right, cool,
lets go, And then you know you

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got a hold of mister Geist.
Yes, Jordan Geist. I'm excited to

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have him. He's been uh,
you know, mister everything with with the

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throws and uh and the Arizona track
and field. He's I think he won

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his fourth shot for years now shot
put championship. UM, a potential Olympian

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um. Uh you know now you
know, looking for national championship. So

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uh looking forward to talking to Jordan
Geist because he's uh, he's been the

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guy if Arizona track for four years
ago. He's the point getter because we've

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we've talked to him about a year
or two ago, right when he won

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on one of the titles. Yeah, last year about this time. So

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he continues to do really really well. Yeah, so we'll be good for

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her to talking to him. But
uh, you know, basically some you

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know, nothing but champions coming in
coming in today with uh with Jason Heisy

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again, uh, head coach at
cdo Wonder the school's tenth championship, his

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second and he had actually been to
the finals three other times, so you

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know he's a he's been up there. And then uh they just won.

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There's last night and then Jordan guys, so looking forward to this cool,

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cool NBA today. We still haven't
heard well well I know you haven't breaking

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news, but uh, the guy
who can't recruit recruited somebody again again,

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right yeah, and then and was
recruiting his suspect and and got a return

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guy. Right, Well you saw
that, Yeah, but Hella Larson was

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never going anywhere. Well nowadays,
who knows, Well, yeah, yeah,

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you're right. It's good that it's
over. But but you know,

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of course Tommy wants to know,
you know, yeah he's here. Who's

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not right, right, because I
mean know, I know there's still speculation

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about about his zulas. I have
a hard time believing he's coming back because

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there's a lot of people who are
out there thinking he might. I don't,

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you know, nobody that nobody that
you know, I just fans that

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tell me, Okay, oh is
he coming back? You know? You

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know, I don't. I don't
know. I think he's thing. He's

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done what he's you know, what
he was gonna do here, and yeah,

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you know he's gonna take a shot. But we'll see, sure,

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sure, so we'll see. Oh
okay, is he texted me already?

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Uh? Okay? Um? What
else? Softball based on everything us kind

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of ready to shut down, kind
of off them. You know, Baseball

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is still you know, they've got
a series with USC this weekend. They

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gotta they gotta win some games there
to just get into the packed twelf tournament.

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Only the top nine teams get in. Yeah, and they think they're

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sitting in ninth place as we speak. So they they've got to they got

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some work to do this weekend just
to get into the tournament, to get

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the packed twelf tournam to get themselves
a shot at at least, you know,

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trying to win the tournament and go
somewhere make some noise. I don't

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know that they can get in,
um, but you know, you never

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know. Yeah, so we'll see
it's gonna come down to the water just

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to get into the tournament. It'll
be the first time and forever since I

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wasn't even not even here in town, but in nineteen eighty five when both

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teams didn't get into both teams didn't
get in, right right, which is

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gonna be a lonely summer. Into
baseball is ten and seventeen in the league.

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They're tied for ninth with Cal.
Uh. They've got a twenty twenty

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two records. I do have a
winning record, but I don't know that

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it's good enough to get them into
the tournament without winning. Yeah. No,

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the PAC twelfth tournament, right right, there was some speculation that the

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football team would get in, and
I'm like, oh no, their record

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was not good enough and they didn't
be teams. Yeah, and although you

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said you liked them for that one
game, you saw, well again if

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he didn't look as bad as that
they sounded. Yeah, right, And

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maybe it's for that one game,
but even even beyond that, just looking

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at their lineup, players coming up
to bat, you know, can they

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hit? Can they not? You
know? And and I just felt like

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they've got some players they no doubt, they need some pitching. They supposedly

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have pitching help on the way.
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get a year older. You know, UCLA's two, but UCLAs are like,

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they're gonna be in their thirties now, so they've got to leave.

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Um, you know, I think
they've got some players that they can win

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with. It's just a matter of
you know, kay, can you know,

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can they pick so and now?
Can they be kept right here and

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you keep them? Can you keep
them? That's the biggest thing. After

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every season, and we saw two
basketball forever where everybody just jumped shipping good

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players, good players, guys who
had a lot of time at their old

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school. You know, you know, you know uh um, you know

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the kid from Washington State. Um, um, Roman's kid, Rodman's kid.

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You know j C. J.
Robins, great player of Washington State.

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You know he sat here and almost
single handedly beat Arizona. You're the

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guy, and you know, boom
he goes off to USC So we can

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play with Bronie Jane, right.
Yeah, And you know what, you

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can't really blame them, I mean, camp if they're gonna give you the

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opportunity. But again, Jay,
this is how I say, I'm not

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a big sports fan. And and
you know, I you phrase it the

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way I am a sports fan,
but I'm not a sports fan. There's

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no loyalty in the game and at
any level, and it isn't that well

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right, And that's kind of that's
what kind of got me out of it.

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Where I couldn't tell you the Cincinnati
Red team that I grew up with,

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I could tell you the roster.
I couldn't tell you today who's on

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the team we went to see the
Giants and the Diamondbacks last week. I

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couldn't tell you a player. Yeah
I could, honestly, I don't know.

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I probably know four guys in the
Dodger lineup right, and you're a

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huge dog. You know. I
know Mookie Beats, I know Max Munsey,

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I know, I know Will Will
Smith occasionally, Chris Taylor's in the

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lineup, um. JD. Martinez, I know because he's you know,

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he's in my fantasy baseball team.
They got two new kids in the infield,

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Miguel Rojas and Miguel Vargas, and
there's still one. Uh we just

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so um so maybe that's a talker. We could talk after the after the

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Heisi stuff. Are you a fan? How big of a fan are you?

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What? Are you a fan?
Up? Yeah? Yeah, right?

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And are you as much as you
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like like I mean, yeah,
you know I love the ares On Wildcats

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college football, you know, in
football. I'm a college football fan,

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right. I'm an NFL fan.
I'm not a fan of a team.

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Yeah, I'm not even a fan
of a player. I'm an NFL fan

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because I love the NFL. I
love the games. Um, I enjoy

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my Sundays during football season. Yeah, you know, I love watching the

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NFL. But I'm a fan of
the game. I'm not a fan of

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a team. I don't have a
team. That's that's that's why I watched

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a fan of no team, but
but one of the game. Well,

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come on, if I didn't have
any you're a fan of sport, if

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I didn't do your league. I
don't know how much of a fan I

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would be because I watch and I
watched games and scores and but you want,

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but you watch a game, You're
watching the NBA. Yeah, but

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I don't watch it like like a
fan does I watch it? I don't

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like a fan, I think is
a broader, a broader definition. Then.

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But you're you're, you're, you're, you're, you're boiling it down

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too. To be a fan,
you've got to be a fan of craziness

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something, you know. You got
to be a fan of a team or

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a fan of a player or something
like that. Right, think to me,

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I you can be a fan just
of sports and just love, you

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know, any sports. And I
think that's kind of where I fall,

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because I mean, you know,
I'm I'm not paying attention to the NHL,

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but I'm gonna watch some of the
Stanley Cup when he gets to the

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final because because it's it's a major
sports, it's the championship. And I

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wouldn't do that because I don't want
to cocky. I don't understand hockey,

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but you and it beats watching all
my children tell you exactly. I mean,

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you know, I'm you know,
twenty times over on all my daylines.

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You know, I mean, I'm
not watching him over and over and

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over again how to get away with
murder? And they I listen to him.

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You know, I know that you
can't get away with Murder's what I

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know. But uh, you know, I think that it's uh a thing

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where I think you can be a
fan by just being a fan of enjoying

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sports. That's a sports fan without
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I mean, am I a Dodger
fan? Yes? But you know,

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and do I watch the Dodgers every
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I've got you know, you got
my TV on and do nothing else.

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And I'm not sitting down to you
know, my wife's not a bening on

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Succession or something like that. The
Dodging show, she says it is,

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she's she's had it on when I'm
in the room. I can't take it

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well because it's reminds the wrestler.
But yeah, I've heard it's great stuff

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and I passed it through and I
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and it reminds me of obviously the
obviously have you watched The White White House?

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That funny a new episode breaks?
Did last night or today? Last

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night? Last night? Okay?
I yeah, the third one. I

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haven't seen that one because I was
busy watching the Dodgers go twelve innings last

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night, which then kept me up, and then I had to be up

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at five thirty this morning for my
Tuesday breakfast meetings. So I'm I'm on

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fumes right now. I'm doing.
Yeah, you're gonna have to you're okus

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during the breaks man to carry.
But I enjoyed that. You know,

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I am a Dodger fan. But
even even so, Steve, I'm a

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fan of I'm always been a fan
of baseball. I mean, I kind

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of went away from being a fan
of a specific team for a while because

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I got tired of all the you
know, the crap and the turnover nobody's

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staying with. But I kind of
came back to being a huge Dodger fan

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again. But I've always paid attention
to baseball. Do you pay attention to

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the NBA to a degree more so
now than ever because because of the show,

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um, you know, a huge
football fan college and felt um,

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so you know. But again in
the NFL, I'm not a fan of

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a team. So but I'm still
a fan. I consider myself a fan.

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Okay, I don't, well,
I consider you. You wouldn't be

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see, I don't think you'd be
sitting here if you are not. No,

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No, this is how I lived
my life, and this is kind

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of how I pay my bills.
So I enjoy it. I pay attention.

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I pay attention to it as much
as I can. If like hockey,

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you could tell me what I know
the four teams in I think,

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but that's about it. Go only
because I saw them. But see,

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if you can go you can go
sit around a table with a bunch of

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guys and not talk hockey and and
talk sports. Oh yeah, sure right,

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And he's sure pretty much because I
mean, you're not gonna you're not

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gonna know hockey teams. But if
the conversation breaks into hockey, you might

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have a couple of things to say. But yeah, but the guys you

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hang with generally, are they are
right? Right? Right, You're gonna

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talk about football, You're gonna talk
about basket right, You're gonna talk about

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the wildcats. You're gonna talk about
yeah, whoever, of course, and

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they know that, and they know
which which topics to talk to me about

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or whatever or not to talk to
me, and which those are fans and

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one of them. As much as
you try to deny it, you are

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get me out of this, out
of this. Hey, let's um,

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let's that's what we got a minute
because Isai already text me. He's gonna

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ask him where he's going. Um, so that should be fun to take.

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He's gonna take the cup around drink
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side kind of drink like you're drinking
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you ever done that? No?
God, I'm glad. No, no,

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no, even in your darkest the
wildest nights though, never anything like

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there for a reason. Okay,
Hey, let's go, let's go all

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right, let's yeah, let's get
Jason well, uh, and then we'll

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Now on the phone. We have Jason

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Hesi, coach of the CDEO Baseball
team State champion Baseball team, coach,

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how are you good? You guys
ran into uh to Scott still sorrow and

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put them away nicely. How did
that game go in terms of how you

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thought it would go? Um?
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think it went the way it needed
to go for us to win the game.

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No, no, you have to
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Did you? Was there a kind
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pu, really good arms, and we

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did not want to to the cam
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us behind. So the goal was
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and to keep a lead, and
we did it. So. Um,

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first of all, you had you
had your starter and he got he ran

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into the pitch count. Um,
let me ask you first, when did

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the pitch count come into play?
That that you guys? How long have

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you guys been dealing with that?
And then how do you as a coach

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to deal with that? One hundred
and five pitches doesn't seem like a lot

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for a seven inning game. Um, it's been harry since I've been back

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at CDEO like last the last five
years. But I think it's a good

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rule. I mean, one hundred
and five pixes, one hundred and ten

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picks. It is probably where you
need to be as a high school kid

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anyway. I mean anything beyond that
is probably a little too much. So

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what what do you have to do
to prepare for something like that? Do

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you do? You? Do you
monitor it? You are you always just

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uh, you know, okay,
you always have a guy ready. I

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mean, what how does it come
into play in terms of your strategy?

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Well, I mean we have a
guy who has a game changer, and

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he's keeping the picks acounts, and
whenever we get really close to a piscount

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limit, we always double check and
cross reference with the other team just to

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make sure so we don't run into
any um four situation. So you know,

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you can finish your hitter once you're
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So, uh, it's happened a
couple of times. It happened to Gets

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Brag John Mountain with the casey we
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guy in to to finish happened here, happened to get south Point. We'll

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be played earlier in the tournament.
Same thing. Um, so this is

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your second back to back, you
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How does this feel after the after
last year? Well, I mean it

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feels good because this was this was
kind of a completely different team. I

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mean, usually if you went back
to back championships is because you got the

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same group of kids. UM moved
this casey through four innings for us last

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year in in a spring tournament.
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and our and our mound presence was
gone this year. So, I mean

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it was sttle dicey there early too, so we were feeling the growing things.

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Well, I'm gonna I was gonna
say, because I can at Morales

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story that you did on you guys
in all sports. You guys were seven

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and seven at one point, so, I mean, you know, we

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just everybody trying to figure figure things
out? What was going on in those

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first fourteen games? Then, how
do you think was there any one specific

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thing that sort of uh, you
know, turned that for you? Well,

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I think we ended up happening.
We played some really good opponents,

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stacked up against each other. We
ended up playing UM twosan high who was

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ranked second in six A we played
kind of in the Foothills, who was

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number one in five A. We
played due Gallis who was number two,

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and five A we ended up playing
South Point obviously, who was number one

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in five A. Well in four
A we played them twice and then we

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um we played Sawaro at the end, who was playing as pretty pretty a

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tough. So, I mean we
had a we had a lot of games

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that were against really good opponents at
the wrong time, and we ended up

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we were very we were competitive in
those games. We just we just didn't

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have the pitching to get over the
hump. Well, you you listed a

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bunch of the local teams that must
say a lot to the baseball played in

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Southern Arizona. Well, yeah,
Kylie Flis was playing from state championship tonight.

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The Gallas lost in the semi finals
and thetaw Point was right there at

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the very end in the in the
four A. So, um, yeah,

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I mean the Southern Arizona has some
has some good teams this year.

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Well, let me ask you,
because you've been coaching baseball for a long

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long time, how has it changed? And I'm sure it's gotten a lot

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better, But has it to what
degree? Well, Um, I mean

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it's it's still got the same The
good teams are the good teams. They

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have been the good teams for decades. And it's pretty much the same thing

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up up in Phoenix. And you've
probably got a handful of ten or fifteen

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teams that are always there at the
end and every level of a matter wherever

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they play, whether it's four,
A five, a Sixay. Okay,

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So Jason h. Steph and I
were talking. I said, I told

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I met you all the way back
when you were a freshman at the U

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of a M playing for Jerry Kendall
in in in you know, one of

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the great programs in college baseball.
How much of that, how much of

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your experienced there, you know,
shaped who you are as a coach?

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All of it? I mean all
of it. I mean we what we

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what what we do today, It's
Kenadlo Baseball is exactly what we did at

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the University of Arizona three decades ago. It's exactly what we do. Soft

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onun defense, hard bun defense,
first and third offenses and first and third

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defenses, cuts and cuts and relays. Um, we hit the same way

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that we were taught how to hit
back then. We picked the same waybe

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were taught how to pick. I
mean, there's been changes of over time

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in different ways to nuance it to
the different population in front of you.

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But it's the same game and hasn't
changed in two hundred years, let alone

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you know, the last thirty years. So I mean we're you know,

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we uh, if Jerry kind of
were to walk on our baseball field tomorrow,

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he could coach our team. That's
that's that's how precise the terminology is.

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Head hasn't changed in thirty years.
So I always asked this of coaches,

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and I asked us to Corey Williams
last week about secret sauce. So

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what's you win? Not by accident
because you're very good at what you do.

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What's your secret sauce at least?
What do you think it is?

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Well? I mean, and it
just comes down to working hard. I

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mean, that's it. I mean
when we sat down in the hotel up

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and Shoeniques, you know, two
months and two months ago, and we

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were you know, I think we
were ten ten and nine or nine and

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eight or some crazy number like that. We just lost six out of eight

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and we were sitting sitting in that
hotel room talking about ourselves with coaches,

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like how do we fix this thing? How do we fix this thing?

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And wet nothing for two hours,
going around and around and around. At

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the end of the day, we
came right back to square one, which

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is we got to get better and
the only way to get better is to

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work harder. And when we got
back, we got back into Tucson,

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we just committed ourselves to We took
every two we coached from the second the

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kids got out of school and they
were able to be on the field until

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we could not see a baseball at
night. And we did that for two

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months straight. Yeah, well there
you go, right, Yeah, no,

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kiddy, and they and how,
you know, how do you get

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to buy into that? You know
what, there has to be something that

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you do or that you say,
or that you put out in front of

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the you know these guys to commit
to that. Well, we're going to

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do it. And if you want
to come with us, you can,

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and if you don't, you don't
have to. There are kids that choose

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not to play at CDEO Baseball and
they don't have rings right now. I

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mean, that's just the way it
is. And the kids that choose to

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put in the time and the effort
and the energy, and the kids that

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choose to to go through the process
get better, and ultimately it's the things

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aligned for you, then stuff like
this is going to happen. I mean,

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we're we're the same guys, we've
been ever since we since we showed

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up at the CDEO, And your
philosophy has stayed the same. You've been

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around a high schools up up north, Um, your philosophy hasn't changed.

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No, I mean I think I've
gotten a little bit. Um, I

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think I'm better communicating with players over
the years. When I first started coaching,

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I was pretty much crazy. I
mean I was highly highly competitive,

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and I know I was a twenty
five year old kid who was two years

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removed from playing minor league baseball out
there to coaching high school kids. I

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mean, there's there's there's reasons I
don't have many umpire friends in the city

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right. That's because I was basically
out of control of a young player and

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as a and as a young coaching. Over time, I've tried to tried

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to temper that a little bit and
really learned that it's not about coaching the

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game as much as about coaching the
people to play the game, and I

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think I'm getting better at that.
How do you recognize those things? So

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what makes you recognize those things?
And as you say, you know,

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get get better at that stuff?
Is it because you're getting kicked out of

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game you have no friends? Well, I mean it's usually come. I

408
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.000
mean it usually comes with failure,
right. I mean, you know,

409
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.039
things don't work or things don't happen
the way you want them too, and

410
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you ask yourself why, and you
know, when you do some self introspection,

411
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.160
m you tryd of realize that sometimes
it's not everything around me, sometimes

412
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.960
mostly about me. You trust to
try to make small, subtle improvements every

413
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.799
year and that probably made you,
well, yeah, a better a coach

414
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:23.559
and probably said, Okay, this
is what I can't do, this is

415
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:27.839
what I should do. Stuff like
that. My time of Pima was really

416
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:33.640
beneficial. It was a different type
of athlete. It was a junior colleague

417
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:40.000
athlete and it was somebody who you
had recruited. And really getting those kids

418
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:44.400
to play hard was something that was
somewhat of an art more than it was

419
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.440
a skill. I mean, it
was it was trying to trust the right

420
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.920
buttons and thirty five different guys on
an ongoing basis. That's why what Ken

421
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:57.160
Hakamby has done it Pima is pretty
amazing. So you were you know,

422
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.519
you were a college player, said
you know, you're a pro player.

423
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.920
Now you're you're a coach. What
what is it that keeps you doing this?

424
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:10.319
What is it? Just? Is
it the competition? Working with the

425
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.400
kids, and what is it that
makes you stay in this game and do

426
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:18.079
the things you continue to do well? I think over time it's it's that

427
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.880
I've I realized how important athletics was
to me and how it molded me and

428
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:23.920
how it put me in some of
the in front of some of the greatest

429
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:29.119
men that that I've had the privilege
to be around and molded me and helped

430
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:33.319
shape me into who I am.
And and I think over time, I've

431
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.079
really started to see the big picture
of that and it's and that's something that

432
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:38.519
I want to do. I mean
this, the days like this are nice,

433
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:45.559
but there's nothing that replaces when you
see a kid go from step A

434
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.640
to step BE, to step SEE
to step D and you see his personal

435
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.440
growth, his professional growth. You
mean, I get it at the set

436
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.799
the time he's going through it.
But he comes back a year or two

437
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.559
or three or four later and he
says, hey, man, you know

438
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:03.720
everything that you did helped me and
you just can't replace that. I mean,

439
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.599
at the time I have with coach
Kendall the of a Jerry Stid Jim

440
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:14.960
wing Um. I I mean,
it's it's life changing. Yeah. So,

441
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.880
so at this time last year,
you were looking at a team that

442
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:19.960
you were losing a lot of guys. You use that, you come back,

443
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.519
you win a state championship. Now
tell us you know what you have

444
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.240
now looking ahead to next year.
You've just won a championship. So maybe

445
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.400
this is an unfair question and you
just finished your season last night, but

446
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.960
I'm gonna ask anyways, you know, what do you see going forward for

447
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:37.039
next year? What's on your mind
in terms of what you think you guys

448
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.200
are gonna look like next year?
Well, I think we'll be better offensively.

449
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.640
I think we returned, we returned
the large majority of our offense.

450
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.839
Um. We had some really good
junior hitters this year that really came on

451
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.359
at the end. I think we
could be as good on the hill from

452
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:59.039
a depth perspective. Then then when
we were this year, we had Lucas

453
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.279
and every time Lucas went out,
I mean Lucas was eleven and one and

454
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.119
we were twenty one and ten.
So do the math on that we were

455
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.680
five hundred without and then and what
ninety five percent with him? So our

456
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:15.240
second level pitching struggled against the better
teams, and I think we'll be deeper

457
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.359
next year. We had two kids
that didn't even picture this year before us

458
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.279
who we were who we were counting
on, a guy named Jackson Kakowski who

459
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.640
had an arm injury. And then
Terrell Read, our shortstop who also pictures,

460
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.680
who was a really good picture and
didn't picture one any of this year

461
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.680
because he had some arm trouble,
so to keep him on the field as

462
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.440
short he couldn't pitch. And we
may have both of those guys next year.

463
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:42.039
So what do you have leaving?
Are they going somewhere? Yeah?

464
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:48.119
Yeah, Well Lucas is going to
Northridge, m Jacob is going to I

465
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:56.559
think University of Saint Louis and the
Midwest UM. Adrian Marquez is going to

466
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:03.000
go play at Eastern Arizona. He's
he's gonna pick. I think Sam Martinez

467
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.160
is probably gonna retire and just go
to college. Um, so yeah,

468
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.799
I mean we lose those four guys, well, it's still going to be

469
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:12.720
stacked. Yeah. Yeah, and
then you you kind of part of the

470
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.359
art of being a good coaches you
have to temper their enthusiasm for the next

471
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.160
year, saying, now we were
two times state champs, but we still

472
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:25.440
got to be good or better.
Well, I don't think anybody in this

473
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.119
team is gonna take it for granted, because I think some of that happened

474
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:30.400
this year. I think when we
I think when we got into it,

475
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:36.000
we won that tournament at Tucson High
and we kind of felt like this was

476
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:37.640
going to be another easy run and
go at it, and then we ended

477
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.680
up taking it on the chin the
next two weeks, losing six out of

478
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.160
eight. I think everybody at that
point I realized, hey, um,

479
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:49.480
you can't take this game for granted. It'll it'll punch you right in the

480
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:55.440
mouth and these kids and it happened
to all of us. So I don't

481
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:56.839
think we'll have that problem next year. Yeah, I can. Coaches say

482
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:02.279
losing motivates as well as the bench. I don't know if I don't know

483
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.799
if you agree with it, but
you know, the bench still kind of

484
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:10.119
motivates you, and losing really pisses
you off. Is no fun. I

485
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.119
mean, it's enough, but it's
when you do it's it's but it's when

486
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.480
you make the biggest changes. And
kept telling me, guys, you know,

487
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.480
don't believe the wins and losses.
Don't believe the feeling you have.

488
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:25.240
The feeling is it's useless. It's
what you're doing that is going to pay

489
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.640
off in the end. It's the
work that we're putting in. It's how

490
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.079
are we playing in May that's gonna
matter. It doesn't matter who you lost,

491
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.519
when it really doesn't matter who you
won, It matters how you're playing

492
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.880
in May. The same message I
had to them to our team when we

493
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.319
lost the Foothills and we really should
have won the game when we lost to

494
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.480
them in extra ending, is the
same feeling when we beat South Point a

495
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.640
couple weeks later. I said,
guys, it's it's the same game and

496
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.200
the and it's just the way we
played it. So don't believe how good

497
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:57.359
you feel right now. I don't
believe how bad you felt when you lost

498
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.519
the Ironwood Ridge. You know,
back back March, it's the same game.

499
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.079
We just played it poorly back then, and we played it better today.

500
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.759
And if you want to do something
special, we just gotta piece those

501
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:14.359
better performances together consistently down the stretch. And we did it right. Everything

502
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.559
matters in May, and you guys
did it. Congrats. Congrats again,

503
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.599
Well thank you all right, thanks
thanks for having me. Great, great

504
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:24.359
to have you on the show.
Thanks again, appreciate you. Coach be

505
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:30.599
well, okay, man, thank
you Jason he cdo coach baseball two times.

506
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:35.599
They're my neck of the woods.
Obviously, they've historically been a bream

507
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.000
a lot of great players under the
major leagues, those kinds of things,

508
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.319
the Duncans and those games. Man, it's always you know, it's always

509
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.480
hard to win a championship. Oh
yeah, yeah, because but then he

510
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:50.480
talks about these teams, the Southern
you saw South Points, a cdo came

511
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.759
of the Foothills, Tusun High.
They're playing tonight, you know for ja

512
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.720
Yeah, I um, well we'll
talk. We gotta go take a break,

513
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.599
so all right, yeah, okay, Well then let's that's going to

514
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.640
do that. We'll take a call, take a call or two or three.

515
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.759
We'll take a break, take a
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565
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Cookie on Steve, He's Jay,
I think we got to go.

566
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.920
We had a call callers fight back. We're trying to get you for the

567
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segment to just call us quickly right
back to solid. But we're doing some

568
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stuff with the clock and coming back
from commercial. Yes we are. Just

569
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:59.639
give us a quick callback. Well. At Jason's Night in the House today,

570
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he's a Monday, Tnesday, Friday
things, so Tuesdays and Thursdays you're

571
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:05.960
stuck with me, and you know
what, it's busy in here during a

572
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.119
break. You know, I know
everybody thinks we're out there, you know,

573
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:13.159
getting some chips and some sodas and
we are cool. We are,

574
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.639
we're doing that too, but a
lot of stuff going on here trying to

575
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:21.239
keep up. You know, you
sit here and you know we're flipping through

576
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:25.119
Twitter there's breaking news throughout the show. There's stuff happening right now. Things

577
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:30.480
are there's stuff coming out of the
out of the ACC about their uh you

578
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know, their uh their TV stuff
and their revenue sharing and all that.

579
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You know, things are happening as
we speak, and we're trying to keep

580
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up with all of that because we
want to be sure to talk about it.

581
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.920
Right. We have a color Hi, you're on the air and on

582
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.960
the ball. How's it going.
I'm Dick. Hey, Vic's going on

583
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.679
with everything? Guys? Good good? You call the well Buck, didn't

584
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.920
you? Vick? I sure did? And I uh, I'll tell you

585
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:59.800
I let my kids play for coach
Has any day instead of Jay Over.

586
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:06.280
You're the one they called what you
called before before Jay? Right? Yeah,

587
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:13.039
you said I said, I said
he would never not giving out participates

588
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:17.039
in trophy anytime soon. So you
got that. I still think you got

589
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:20.159
me all wrong, Vic, I
really do. I don't know what to

590
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.360
tell you. I'll to argue with
you again. Yesterday you you did a

591
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:30.840
little thing on Arizona softball and I
don't know if he was completely but you

592
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:35.360
were kind of blaming it on youth
and and a bunch of freshmen um that

593
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:37.480
play well. I think that has
something to do with it. I mean,

594
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:43.199
it's me and that's mostly about freshmen
coming in and they are honestly gay.

595
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.639
If you're around the softball world,
if you're a batbuster, Firecracker,

596
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:53.159
Corona Angels, you are definitely college
ready. So youth has nothing to do

597
00:39:53.280 --> 00:40:00.239
with it. Um. I obviously
I know that the Cats have a lot

598
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.039
of hard working girls out there,
but we do not have a kid that

599
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:08.199
compares to Megan Paramou. We do
not have a kid that cares compares to

600
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:14.639
Jordan Ball at Oklahoma or Nicole May. It's not even close. It's it's

601
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.360
light years away. So so so
we're going and h that's and that's my

602
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:22.440
point is that you know, to
me, I think if you were listening

603
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.840
to hear me say, UCLA looked
like like you know that you see a

604
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:30.840
bunch of juniors and seniors and and
players have been around the block a bunch

605
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:32.840
of times, and they're playing against
the girls who are still might you know,

606
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:36.280
making their way up. So I
think there still is a difference.

607
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.800
And but I think there's those got
good players. They I don't know how

608
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:42.519
good they're ultimately going to be,
but it seemed to me like they were

609
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.679
just outmanned by a team that had
better, older, more experienced players.

610
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:50.920
Well, UCLA had their share of
freshman girls on the team. Freshman,

611
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:55.760
uh, freshman at third base,
freshman at first base. Um, they

612
00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:00.559
have a lot of youth on that
team. Also, it's just a difference,

613
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.239
like I said, is they have
Megan faramover Bean, a stud and

614
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.599
she stepped on the campug the freshman. So let me ask you, Vick,

615
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:13.000
because I know you do follow the
USA and others. Where did Arizona

616
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:17.320
go awry with pitchy Because it was
a school of dominance for a long time.

617
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:21.079
It just hasn't been lately. Where
did it go wrong? You know,

618
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:25.440
it's steven been a tough road.
They had a kid u Gosh,

619
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:30.800
I can't remember how many years ago. Her name was Brihanna from modern day.

620
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:37.840
She was a batbuster and she ended
up tragically committing suicide. She was

621
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.880
coming to you a out of a
senior year and after that that was a

622
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.519
big commitment that went bad. Um. We also had a kid gosh and

623
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.960
I can't remember her name, and
she just didn't mate with grades and a

624
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:58.360
few other things. Um, so
lost a couple of commitments that way.

625
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.320
But um and then you you you
just missed, you just missed. You

626
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.880
know, Natalie Lugo who went to
Florida, came to u A and she

627
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:10.679
told coach Kendrick m No, I'm
going to Florida a better deal. And

628
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.480
then some of the pictures they've recruited
who you thought we're gonna be, you

629
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.519
know, really really good having materialized
and you know, boy that that you

630
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:23.400
know, I'll tell you I and
Tyler McQuillan was great here and all Americans,

631
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:29.320
but when I saw her in high
school, um, oh, my

632
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.440
buddies, Pats are gonna win two
patties with her, and it just didn't

633
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:37.960
materialize. Yeah, yeah, and
that's it. He was one of the

634
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:44.440
best I thought that I had seen
in forever. And and like I said,

635
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.360
they have some good, hard working
kids. Um My buddies in California

636
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.800
told me that Smerdyke that they have
here was was gonna be one of the

637
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:58.119
biggest they've seen. She thought to
be a part and she really didn't even

638
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.280
get that many innings here right right. Well, and then you know,

639
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:04.719
here comes another one, Ryan Maddox, the you know, the girl out

640
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:08.400
of Fresno was supposed to be all
that, right, I mean, that's

641
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:20.480
god. She's five and change.
Okay, she's like five two. VI

642
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:25.039
look forward to dinner with you maybe
sometime soon. You got it. You

643
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.119
just when you're free, we'll hit
it up and you can even bring Gay

644
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.519
along. Okay, okay, I'll
bring I'll bring a trophy for him.

645
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:39.719
Okay, all right, Vick,
thank you. So Victor, Victor got

646
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.719
me all wrong. Vic bet me
like in October, he says, Steve,

647
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:45.920
you don't know what you're talking about. Erizone was not gonna finish in

648
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.559
the top three basketball man's massage.
Come on, man in the league,

649
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:52.880
in the league, and I come
on, come on, Victor, only

650
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.760
don't got a players. I'll bet
you a state dinner, state dinner,

651
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.800
all these guys. I'll come along. I'll pay my own. But I'd

652
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.440
like to see that he was at
we were at the Northwest when we did

653
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.079
a remote. Yeah, okay,
he visited at a time or two.

654
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.000
He's a Dodger guy too, So
it's okay. We're you know, we're

655
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.559
friends of doctor. You know we're
do defenses. All nonsense stuff, man,

656
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:22.280
nonsense man. Okay, you Dodger
on Dodger crime. But yeah,

657
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.360
well there shouldn't be. There should
not be Dodger on Dodger crime. I

658
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:28.960
know sometimes there is, but there
should not be. But you know,

659
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.320
he makes a good point. Look, here's here was the glaring thing with

660
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.400
me about the difference with ECLA.
And those are extremes, Jay, because

661
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:39.880
there are top two or three programs, but Arizona is you know, one

662
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.039
of those programs too. Or they
should it should it should and it was

663
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:46.760
was that Arizona's best player for the
last two years, jenell me on you

664
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.719
right, freshman of the year,
you know, led the led the league

665
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.760
in hitting. Yeah, she bets
ninth US ninth, Yeah or she I

666
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:02.840
wonder I wonder how that went for
them, because well, Charlie's blast wasn't

667
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.599
even dressed. I think she was
injured. So but still even when you

668
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:08.000
look back, you say, maybe
it's not as green on the other side

669
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.960
as you think it's gonna be.
You might win, but yeah, I

670
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.840
mean she's still playing center field,
center field of batting night. You know,

671
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:19.440
there were eight better hitters than her
in the lineup, right, you

672
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.599
know, and I know sometimes coaches
put you know, their nine hitter is

673
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.199
like another lead off here that they're
looking at it that way. But still

674
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:29.800
she was batting lead off at Arizona. She's not bad, you know,

675
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.159
She's not batting lead off at you
see. You know, so yeah,

676
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.480
how does that go for somebody?
So I don't know. It's just,

677
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:40.960
uh, they got a lot of
work here, you know. And I

678
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.639
wasn't implying that things aren't great over
there. They're not because you know,

679
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:50.320
they're not in the tournament, right, so things are not good over there.

680
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:53.519
But I don't think it's as hopeless
as it's kind of been sounding.

681
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:55.719
I know, we don't cover the
team. I know you went to a

682
00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:00.400
game or two or whatever. Um, I don't know if they'll be changes.

683
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:02.760
Sometimes they recording change. Well,
you never know, you never know,

684
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:06.880
but you know, um, this
is a it is a funny thing.

685
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:07.760
And I may maybe I shouldn't say
this, but I'm going to,

686
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:14.440
right, he said, But you
know, having after having seen Mike Candrea

687
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.360
all these years, you know,
with you know, the coaching staffs that

688
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.159
he had, you know, all
the players, you know, just all

689
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.480
these veterans of you know long time, you know, top people in softball,

690
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.159
and you know, you see Kaitlin
Lowe and Tarn moe At who you

691
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:35.559
saw as players. You feel like
the kids are driving the car now,

692
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:37.960
No, yeah, without question,
we're all we're all right. You feel

693
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:42.480
like the keys got hand over handed
over to the kids and they're still trying

694
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.000
to figure it out right right,
and they are and they are, but

695
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.679
you know, and so it's kind
of like that was the other like the

696
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.559
I think they'd be okay, you
know, growing things. Yeah, as

697
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.360
much as as much as you want
to think that by having coached under Candrea

698
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:00.800
all this time and Tarn Moa has
already been there, that you just step

699
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.840
right in and and yeah, you
know, and the you know, they

700
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.039
hand you the keys to the Mercedes
and you immediately know how to drive it.

701
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:08.480
It doesn't work that we've got to
call real quick because you have four

702
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:15.440
minutes to take that Hi, you're
on the Rnnmall. Hey, Jay,

703
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:21.159
you were talking about Farren Moat as
as a coach, as a pitching coach,

704
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:27.559
and what's funny is we remember her
as a junk pitcher and you don't

705
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.440
see a lot of those type of
pitchers having a lot of success nowadays,

706
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:37.039
right right, you know, So
it's so you know, it's as a

707
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.719
fan and I watch I watch a
lot of their games on the streaming and

708
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:46.679
on the fact Fall network, and
it's it's hard. It's hard to have

709
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:52.199
the confidence that she's going to be
able to develop power pitchers. Right.

710
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.599
I'm sure she has the knowledge,
but we have the memories of how she

711
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:04.920
pitched right and and that I think
we need to find some nil pitching money

712
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:10.599
and uh and get us some pitching
because there was a graphic on the during

713
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:15.920
the UCLA game that Arizona outscored their
opponents this year three hundred and seventy one

714
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:22.320
to two twenty two. Youth was
not their issue, at least not in

715
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.960
the batting order. Yeah, you
know it was. It was the pitching

716
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:31.239
that couldn't hold leads, much like
the baseball team. Done but done,

717
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.920
right, is right? Yeah?
Yeah, that's done. So you mean

718
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.559
we need to raise money? And
what do you mean by we? Wow

719
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:45.440
the Arizona community, I mean,
oh well, a couple of weeks back,

720
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.719
Jay brought it up, what are
we going to what should we do

721
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:53.119
to, you know, to raise
this nil money? And I think we

722
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.480
can't have fifty fifty raffles because that
would be too much money going out the

723
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.119
door. But we could have like, uh, you know, put in

724
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:06.079
your twenty bucks when you come into
the game and at the football games and

725
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.199
then you know, you put your
name in and you maybe win five hundred

726
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:13.199
bucks. You'd probably probably be able
to get some money in a pot.

727
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:17.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let
me. Or we could sell some red

728
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:22.400
Julical cardner burritos or something. Oh
man, see you said the magic word.

729
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:27.119
We'll gain some pounds, but they'll
be better. There was on a

730
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.199
red please there was yeah, well
you'd be you'd be able to tell who

731
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:37.079
who who donated to the nil burritost
end of the season, all over my

732
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.920
face, Thank you, thank you, don yeah, thank our guys.

733
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:43.440
He makes a good point. I
mean, he doesn't make a good point.

734
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.239
And somebody said that was that was
one of the things that was said

735
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:50.320
to me about the type of picture
of the Taran moat was. You know,

736
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:52.199
I'll tell you what, you know, the difference between how hard you

737
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:57.320
see a lace picture through against Arizona
and how hard Devin Nets was throwing.

738
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:00.519
You know, I've always when I've
gone to these games, all of those

739
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:04.079
pictures looked the same to me,
because they all throw a freaking heart.

740
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.480
That was a big difference. But
you know this picture that uclat she was

741
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.199
twenty eight two going into the game
and she was smoking and they hit her.

742
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:13.679
They hit her hand, they got
they got the hit, so they

743
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.840
couldn't they could hit you know,
I think the next year, next year

744
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:22.480
will be a lot to say about
how the coaching moves forward because it's third

745
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.400
year now. The first year was
a honeymoon that would turn out to be

746
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:30.239
nice. Second year not so much. Third year you kind of figure out

747
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:31.880
what you're where you're at, right
and you know, and I think a

748
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:37.400
lot of what happened this year was
masked by what they did last year.

749
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.320
You know, first year that they
got to the College World Series. People

750
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:43.760
had that expectation when you know,
they almost didn't even get in the tournament

751
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:45.199
last year. Then all of a
sudden, they make this run. You

752
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:49.039
get to the College Oral Series and
everybody's like, everything's fine, right,

753
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.599
Well it wasn't. They got on
a roll this. You know, it

754
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:55.679
showed that there's still a transition taking
place and a lot of work to do,

755
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.719
and that Kaitlin is still trying to
put herself. You could use that

756
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:05.239
you just did and apply it to
baseball too, everything because he that first

757
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.159
year was another honeymoon period, did
really well, got to the playoffs.

758
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:10.840
And then this year, right,
this is another key year. This is

759
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:15.199
a year for Tommy Lloyd. Right, you know, third year, No

760
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.920
guy, guy, this is what
what his team is gonna look looks like.

761
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:24.599
This year is what Tommy Lloyd's right. Sure, people can get away,

762
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.719
get away from the oh Sean Millard's
guys and stuff like that. You

763
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.440
know, it's like, okay,
here you go, it's Tommy Lloyd's guys.

764
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.119
Let's see what they can do.
All right, let's take our break.

765
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.400
We're gonna come back top of the
hour. We're gonna breaking news,

766
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:37.440
so stick around.

