1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:10,839 Welcome to Softcore History. Hello, and welcome back to Softcore History. My 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,679 name is Jake Goldman. I'm joined as always by my two co hosts, 3 00:00:13,759 --> 00:00:16,879 Danrey Jester and Rob Fox. How's going today? Boys? Look at our 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,079 boy growing up? Introducing his co host, I always do no, not 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,320 recently. Oh well yeah they're here, dance here. That was Daniel text 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,120 me after shows and be like you fucking do it again. Yeah, he's 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,920 just fuming, and I'm just like, it's fine, it's fine, and 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,200 he's just like he'll just like like a paragraph of I'm like Leo in Once 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,920 upon a Time going into my trailer. Yeah, you're like, uh, 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,920 you're not mad at yourself, you're mad at me. You're you're a Christian 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:49,920 bale and I'm the light gaff guy. Yeah, fucking amateur. Anyway, 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,560 we have a Patreon. You can check u out at patreon dot com slash 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,799 softcore History. There. If you subscribe for just five dollars a month, 14 00:00:57,119 --> 00:01:00,240 you get two extra episodes a week. And right now we are on a 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,200 mad tear of risk, playing a lot of risk. Yeah, we are 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,640 playing a lot of risk right now, but we are about to hit part 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,079 three, probably the conclusion of our Risk games. It's a mini series, 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,519 guys. We're not gonna continue to play just risk. No. Yeah, 19 00:01:12,519 --> 00:01:15,879 there's plenty of episodes on the Patreon two. An episode like this normally you 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:22,239 get every week. You also get additional content two episodes a week in a 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,879 whole evergreen cattle. I mean we've been doing it for like two years that 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,359 all this shit's ever green because we're talking about history. Yeah, there's uh, 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,359 you know, the only rule we have is we can't talk about anything 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,120 that happened in the last twenty years. We don't actually don't even have that 25 00:01:34,239 --> 00:01:37,239 rule. Yeah, it's with the exception of all of our college football references 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,840 like the subject, right, we can talk about things that are happening right 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,799 now. We typically try not to. No, we try to go back 28 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:47,359 a little further. We're kind of like putin Yeah, whenever you ask us 29 00:01:47,359 --> 00:01:51,280 a questions modern history, we talk about to go back to eight eighty two 30 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:53,359 because it's super relative in the teen Empire, right of course, Yeah, 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,280 of course I would. Now I want to watch that interview. I kind 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,599 of do too, that he gives the whole history like a fucking history. 33 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:06,040 It wasn't wasn't you know, necessarily historically accurate. But there is a show. 34 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:07,159 This would be a great guest on the show. I would have him 35 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:10,439 for a second. I don't know why he talked to Tucker Carlson. I 36 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:15,280 would entertain every history question he said, every history thing he said, we'd 37 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:17,560 have Kim Jong un on. We would have a lot of more poot One. 38 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:23,520 That's a possibility with me. Uone would be good too, because their 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,159 history stuff is awesome. They i think at one point told their people they 40 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:31,479 discovered unicorn bones in a cave. Well, his dad shot an eighteen and 41 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:38,159 golf on a regular golf course. Yeah, yeah, he's hawkeye right, 42 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:42,560 hypercurate. And I believe un started driving it three and has never pooped. 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,120 He's never pooped. Yes, that's also facts, But he's impressive. What 44 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:49,960 if he what if that's true? But he has a colossomy bag, like 45 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,599 he's never pushed feces out. It just shoots out of the side of him. 46 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,879 Yeah, if you dealt with somebody with that bag, have you, 47 00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:01,680 I've seen it at a No. But it was also a very real possibility 48 00:03:01,719 --> 00:03:05,240 that I had to have one for the rest of my life until I figured 49 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,400 it out. The Crohn's disease. Oh man, imagine if I just had 50 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,719 a bag next to me, it would have been under your shirt. It 51 00:03:12,719 --> 00:03:15,560 would smell. No, it doesn't. It's a kid that came to a 52 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:20,159 party one time that had one. I know he was even wearing it. 53 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:22,960 Maybe I was just drunk. I don't know, but I feel like this. 54 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,280 I just feel like I would have noticed if it smelled bad, though, 55 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:30,560 would you have? You were at a party and collegized, so everything 56 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,840 smells like shit? Hey, that's like his perfect place to cloak himself. 57 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:37,719 That's true. Yeah, he showed everybody though, and then it was like, 58 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,360 oh, thanks, how close were you to him? It's not like 59 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,080 like me to you. That would be my horrible secret. Yeah, you're 60 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,280 not. You're not like I'm not like stick of my face and his poop 61 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:53,960 bag. Of course, no going down on the guy, No, one 62 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:57,360 is no. Why not? Why are you going against people with disabilities? 63 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:01,120 I'm not pretty ablest, I'm not. Yeah, wow, So would you 64 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:03,240 go down on a chick with a coospy bag? No, I'm married, 65 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:09,560 Okay, Katie's dead or Katie, Yeah, this woman struggled her with her 66 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:13,520 colossomy. No, No, I'm not I'm not doing it. I'm not 67 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,160 doing it. Sorry, I mean it's a possibility. It's just this is 68 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,800 this cro disease. We have now been demonetized. We have to monetize every 69 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,680 episode. We actually I uh asked for a manual review last episode and no 70 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:30,639 not just because we talked about Quincy uh possibly stealing an election. Well he 71 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:33,560 didn't steal it. Well maybe he did steal it, but it was definitely 72 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:40,279 stolen from someone. I don't know who did who someone did election stolen or 73 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,639 steals election? I do not automatic demonitored. Not good. It's usually uh 74 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,519 gripped with different kind of people than ourselves. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, 75 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,920 it's just kind of under the same umbrella. Yeah whatever. Well, hey 76 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,279 guys, how'd you like your breakfast this morning? Thanks for making us a 77 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,000 biscuit? Jay welcome, I made you. Okay, so I've been really 78 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,399 into obviously. Oh my god, the mic just keeps moving. I don't 79 00:05:05,399 --> 00:05:09,199 know what's tell you, it keeps going up. It's super easy to fix. 80 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,639 Okay, then fix it. I just did. Thanks. But you 81 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,759 yeah, you challenged him to do something he did. Yeah good. He's 82 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,000 like he did a cartwheel and you're like, but you can't do a cartwheel. 83 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:19,959 You bring this up, I usually cut it out of the episode, 84 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:21,639 but I'm gonna keep it in for this, keep it, keep it. 85 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:28,639 No, that's that's on me. So I obviously really like making my own 86 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,079 food at home. I made some chicken biscuits today with my own fermented peppers. 87 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,439 Uh fried the chicken myself, broke down the chicken. We're gonna die 88 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,199 because I don't trust pickles. You ate them just fine, I know, 89 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:43,079 but as just to be polite, I would take so much poison just to 90 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:46,560 be polite. Yeah, I will literally murder myself just to not have a 91 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,319 confrontation. I will become the most fascist person on earth if it doesn't ruin 92 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:55,279 a family dinner. Like I'm just not trying to be weird at dinner period. 93 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:59,000 Like it's like, oh, you think we should like send all a 94 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:02,360 Dan example, all the homeless to Mars. Yeah man, yeah, yeah, 95 00:06:02,399 --> 00:06:05,680 too many passed potatoes please. But I already had a really good solution 96 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,480 before the homeless became a problem. I was ahead of my time. The 97 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:14,279 final solution for the homeless, No, the final solution is gonna end up 98 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,439 being the suicide pods. I mean, yeah, you know that's what's gonna 99 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:23,399 happen to these almost people, right, They're just gonna be putting pods against 100 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:25,879 their will. You think it's gonna be against their will. They'll talk about 101 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:29,680 it, but just won't be hard. La. They're hosting the Olympics. 102 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,560 Ooh, when is that thing? I actually just think it might be a 103 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:40,480 human street sweeper. It's just like just skid Row just gets like, yeah, 104 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,399 it's just a big vacuum. Actually, all you do is you throw 105 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:46,920 them in a see it moves. It literally is moving in front of you 106 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:51,040 right now. Thanks Dan. AnyWho. Yeah, so my biggest thing though, 107 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:54,759 I love making bread. I brought some bread in today. Maybe i'll 108 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:56,439 bring it. I'll put it up on the screen in a minute, or 109 00:06:56,439 --> 00:07:00,439 I'll take a picture. Yeah, I'm a car carrying certified bread boy. 110 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:05,360 It's one of my favorite things on Earth. In episodes past though, or 111 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,079 in the past people that ask being like, hey, why don't you do 112 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,199 like a history of bread episode? You did do a history of sound. 113 00:07:11,399 --> 00:07:19,639 I so in my next note in softcore history yet uh yeah, in this 114 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,680 is a great radio it's because you're rearranging me the mic before. I'm not 115 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:28,040 into a fashion that I've never seen it. I'm not doing anything with it. 116 00:07:28,079 --> 00:07:32,439 Man, Okay, well now I'm gonna sit like, okay, cool, 117 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:38,120 there you go. So yeah, I have done some episodes in the 118 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,399 past that are like history of Sound or History of Pets, and uh, 119 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:45,160 I think you know, I think we all realized I was kind of mailing 120 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,879 those in when I didn't have a topic. The broader the better. Yeah, 121 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,279 I didn't want to approach his wait, isn't Isn't History of sound one 122 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,800 like our most listened to episode? It is, but it's also one of 123 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,560 our worst episodes. It's content wise bad. It's just the history of recorded 124 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:05,439 sound. But that just proves that the people yearn for terrible content. What 125 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,120 if he just had like some really spicy takes about sound and that's why people 126 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,879 liked it so sound it wasn't true? Were like, man, fuck sound, 127 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:15,839 it's too much sound in America. Set it back. Jake loves himself 128 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:20,360 a broad topic. He's done Spices, Spices, History of Pets, and 129 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,560 History of Sound I think are my big three of broad topics. Unfortunately, 130 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,160 some of the again most listened to episodes of this because people just generally want 131 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:31,000 to know how things happened like they were like, how did we get here? 132 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,200 Yeah, that's true. Nobody wants to hear about some like at random 133 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,360 executioner's diary from the fourteen hundred. That's sick, though, I know that's 134 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,200 one I want to hear about. What's what the show is supposed to be, 135 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,639 man, Yeah, it's supposed to be obscure. Next coming next week 136 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,960 for me, the history of walls, the history of paint drying. But 137 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:54,519 yeah, no, i just was in a bread baking mood and I've just 138 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,480 done a lot more research on breadaus of late so today, fuck it. 139 00:08:58,159 --> 00:09:03,080 Welcome to history of bread. We're here. That seems slightly narrower than the 140 00:09:03,159 --> 00:09:07,279 history of sound. And so the history of bread started when God rained mana 141 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,399 from the sky for Moses. Bro they're eating bread already, episode episode over. 142 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,720 That's how bread is made, not God rained down bread. That was 143 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:20,360 the invention of bread in the in the desert on the way to That would 144 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:22,440 be funny if you thought that and your wife was just hiding invents throwing fucking 145 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,000 bread at you in your house, that would be funny. Here, like 146 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:28,759 I'm gonna make a sour dough and then you just stood there she had to 147 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:35,559 find a sour please call lou Ya's rain and bread. Uh, there is 148 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,759 a loaf of bread I brought in today as well, is a traditional pond 149 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:45,720 olivan, which basically literally is just French for leavened bread. It's your classic 150 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:50,240 sour dough bread you would get at any arts and bakery, but I wouldn't 151 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,360 because I don't eat bread. Well, this bread's great and you'll love it. 152 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,720 I'm keto bro there you're not. I just watched you to biscuit. 153 00:09:56,759 --> 00:10:00,320 I know it was good fish. But yeah, well this is the standard 154 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,559 idea of what good traditional bread is. Has taken tens of thousands of years 155 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:07,960 for the process of making that type of bread to develop. For reference, 156 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,840 that one loaf of bread. Don't mean to go get it. We can 157 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:11,639 show it to the camera. Yeah, I'll crab it, show Janke's bread 158 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,440 while Dan grabs it. For reference. This one loaf of bread has only 159 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,799 three ingredients. It's water, salt, and flour. Some people say, 160 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,120 oh, there's east in there too. That's just wild yeast. That's not 161 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,480 added commercial yeast. That it's east from the air. So yeah, Dan's 162 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:33,240 bringing it on camera right now. Look at this bread. Yeah, very 163 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,279 nice. You can pop the crumb open if you would like, Dan, 164 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,200 you can show them the inside. I can't handle these bread terms. Yeah 165 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,200 you don't like that crumb? Shot right there, the ear and the crumb. 166 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,080 Yeah, so fucking He literally interviewed with Easy Tiger and thought about taking 167 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,840 a job for like ten dollars and I got an off bread to take job 168 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,480 at Easy Tiger. I was offered a job. You're gonna be the night 169 00:10:54,519 --> 00:10:56,960 shift guy. I was gonna be the night shift guy. Yeah, granted, 170 00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:58,879 do they make bread during the day. I feel like it's only at 171 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,799 night. They make it during They make it non stop, just because they 172 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:05,080 have like they have they sell it in like hundreds of stores here. Well, 173 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,279 they sell it at Chib's. Yeah, some thing. Like all the 174 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,159 grocery stores also have a deal with Easy Tiger for their salary. I personally 175 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:16,960 like my bread to the last months. Well, unfortunately that bread will last 176 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,879 about four days useless. How if you eat it fast? That bread you 177 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:26,480 can eat every day though too. But anyway except five days from now, 178 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:30,120 Yeah, every day for the next four days, you can eat that bread. 179 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:33,080 That's right. We need preservatives in our food. I agree. I'll 180 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,120 be real preservatives keep you alive longer. People don't realize that there keeps us 181 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,679 younger. There, Oh, I'm sorry. Eighty four out of eighty five 182 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:46,559 foods in the supermarket have plastic in them. Yeah. Again, it's making 183 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:52,360 us better decomposes. Guess what never goes away, recycling our organs. I'm 184 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:56,080 becoming immortal, slowly but surely. I told you guys on the group chat 185 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,120 that we have that the point of having plastics in your food is that we 186 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:03,360 can eventually recycle people into food. That way, you get enough plastic in 187 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:05,639 the people, then the people can be food too. Yeah, the street 188 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:09,279 sweeper takes the end. It's all coming back. You get sucked up in 189 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,799 there. And but that bread right there, well it has a ton of 190 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:18,559 technique in making it all right, don't give yourself that it takes a long 191 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:22,080 time. It's just three ingredients. It's just three ingredients, and it pretty 192 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,120 much always has been three ingredients. Right. You know what's more impressive of 193 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,039 Papa John's pizza. You know what, I'm not going to disagree with that 194 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:35,240 they have mass produced pizza with fresh ingredients, better ingredients, better pizza. 195 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:43,440 Papa John's. Now they're cooking Pizza Hut on stuff crust. You and pizza 196 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,960 are doing what they're cooking Pizza Hut, Oh, Papa Johns's. Yeah, 197 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,919 they got stuff crust. Now, Pizza Hut doesn't own stuff crust. Pizza. 198 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,840 They invented it. They did invent it. That was a cheese subsidy, 199 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,480 you know that, right, Like the whole reason stuff crust, like 200 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,120 cheese pizzas invented. It's like big cheese. It really was. The government 201 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:05,159 was like cheese, big cheese. I guess needed. They had a bunch 202 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,039 of surplus of cheese because of the war and something like we have all of 203 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,639 this like whatever grade cheese? What war? The World War two? You 204 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,519 have much cheese we made for that, the golf war? There is there 205 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:20,879 is, well that's more timeline with the so much cheese since like World War 206 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,000 two, Like they were using World War two cheese in the fucking Vietnam War 207 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,039 and stuff like that. That's so what you're telling me is much like the 208 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,840 Purple Heart. Yeah, no, we've been using the safe stock pile. 209 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,759 Yeah, we're save in France. Were rewarded just this entire block of cheese. 210 00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:43,399 People don't really still like it's currently in lockdown next to Norad in Colorado. 211 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,799 You are so close to being correct on that. It's surprised we have 212 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,559 a national bank of cheese. We do. We have a ton of cheese, 213 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:54,320 Like there is a bunch of cheese and storage. People forget that's our 214 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,960 new currency reserve cheese. Yeah, dairy, it's good. Keeps you from 215 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,840 having diarrhea. Gold useless cheese. Gold do runs on cheese. You can 216 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:05,559 eat cheese liquid gold. That's velveta. That's why. No, that's why 217 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:11,200 Wisconsin's the most valuable asset in this country. It is, but that's why 218 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:15,279 you like around the time of stuffed crust pizza, there are a couple other 219 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:18,799 like quick easy, mass producible, like stuffed cheese and that ship Fi and 220 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,120 it's it's like, hey, this cheese is going bad, we need to 221 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,000 use this cheese. Why not just oh maybe is that what government cheese is 222 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:30,480 from too? Yeah, it's that is a thousand So like in Don't be 223 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:33,159 a Menace when he pulls when she pulls out government cheese and is melting it 224 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,039 on his chest and that sex scene, Yeah, that's World War two cheese. 225 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:39,399 World War two cheese. It's it's Old War cheese. Getting that chetta. 226 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,720 Baby, you're actually getting a free, free lesson right now on cheese 227 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:46,399 that you did not expect in the bread episode. So you're welcome. That's 228 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:48,559 the double now cheesy bread. I could have put cheese. I mean, 229 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:50,600 I'll probably make a grilled cheese out of that. Oh it's gonna be great 230 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,440 for that. Well, you got four days, so yeah, I gotta 231 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,360 get gotta act fast. The process of making bread has always been pretty incredibly 232 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:03,720 labor intents until the late or mid nineteen hundred. It's really not only does 233 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:05,840 the bread take a long time to make by hand, but I'll consider the 234 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:09,600 amount of work it takes to actually make the wrong ingredients. They had all 235 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,440 day. What else are they gonna do? Mmmm? That's all they did. 236 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:15,919 That's all they did. We'll get to that in a minute. It 237 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,159 didn't work. But white bread flower, that's a process of making. Collecting 238 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,600 water that's a process. Gathering salt that's a process. And gathering those ingredients 239 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:26,919 now is the easiest it's ever been. Yeah, you know that's in your 240 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,720 pantry now. It's easy to get water and flour and bread. Yeah, 241 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,159 So for anyone who's like it used to be bitter. It never Oh, 242 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,519 it was way harder. Actually, Dan's gonna hate bread so much by the 243 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,919 end of this episode. I think you could feel it already. Ah. 244 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,159 No, I love bread. I'm gonna hate you. No, you're gonna 245 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:43,399 hate bread too, don't. You might just hate wheats. What if you 246 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,000 just eat that whole loaf before the episode's over. I mean it'll be fine 247 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,840 because you can put it away. You don't have to keep spinning it. 248 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,320 No, I like him Van of whiting the bread. Also, span of 249 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,279 whiting the bread. That's what the people are here for. What if something 250 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,799 just we have this weird subsect of new view because they want to jack off 251 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,480 to this bread. You spinning the bread in particular, You're bread boy. 252 00:16:04,559 --> 00:16:07,960 I mean, look at that entrance right, there's also some softened butter on 253 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,399 the We do have several people trying to make jake their bread pig. Yeah, 254 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:17,679 it's funny. We need pay pigs, certainly. Yeah, definitely this 255 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:22,120 show needs to grow, or at least just monetized, not in like viewers. 256 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,679 I don't care if we gain another follower as long as the revenue goes 257 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:30,480 up. Pay us, you little pigs. Yeah, pittrehon dot com slash. 258 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:33,679 But so in order to get a complete scope of where bread started and 259 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:37,000 its impact on history, we need to talk about two things in particular, 260 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:44,120 wheat and labor, okay, and their respective history in relation to our history, 261 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,000 and why it's racist. It's not. Well, labor can be I'm 262 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,360 guessing, but no, just the wheat. Wheats is not the slave labor 263 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,559 is fine. First First, yeah, that's a that's a rainbow of labor. 264 00:16:56,679 --> 00:17:00,960 That's right. Everyone's harvested wheat at one point in history. Oppression taste 265 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:07,160 so delicious, it's really good. If that's oppressive, that's there's not enough 266 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,799 oppression. I mean, I assume Jake smacked his dog at some point while 267 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,240 making it, but that's just not maybe all of his wife. That's not 268 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:17,200 gonna do it for me. Don't ask what I'm doing, Jake. It's 269 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,599 been six months. Can he get a job? No, I'm your artist 270 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,720 in pride car. You didn't even take the bread job. Why would I? 271 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:30,039 It was two dollars more an hour than being paid unemployment. It's like, 272 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,720 I'm gonna just not work. I'm gonna quest that government check by the 273 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:40,759 government. By the way, that's not being it's actually it's actually extremely like 274 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:47,759 libertarian and conservative and patriotic to uh be on unemployment because you're making the government 275 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:49,279 you're pay pig. That's right. Also, I already paid for this. 276 00:17:49,759 --> 00:17:52,279 I paid for that service for years, took it out on my check. 277 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:56,039 I'm just getting my money back. He gave my money back. That's all 278 00:17:56,079 --> 00:17:59,640 I'm doing, not not a penny more. I did the math I had 279 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,000 to. I had to get on the TWC phone line and explain to them 280 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:08,000 how I didn't like how being paid through a podcast wasn't like having a real 281 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:12,759 wage. It's like, this is totallyatory. Yeah, in no world should 282 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:15,599 you report this? I know, I'm I'm probably gonna stop. I had 283 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,720 to explain to the oldest person I've ever talked to you, how are you 284 00:18:19,839 --> 00:18:22,200 talking to anyone? I didn't have to report any of the jobs. They 285 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,240 wouldn't pay me. They wouldn't pay me like you make things up. I 286 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,279 totally commit fraud. Okay, fine, it's so much easier. They don't 287 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:37,839 check as long as you out don't want blank spaces? Yeah, any who. 288 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,640 First things first, well, we don't know exactly when humans started farming 289 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,480 their own we we don't know the exact moment. We know that humans have 290 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:48,759 been doing it for thousands of years. In fact, like what's the start 291 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:56,279 time, like five thousand BC, ten thousand BC when we started farming. 292 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:02,240 What is? Bread was invented before? So we think that it might have 293 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:06,799 been cultivated as early as ninety six hundred BC. Okay in the Fertile Crescent 294 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,000 main extreame archaeologists think that. But but I'm here to tell you bread was 295 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:15,720 invented before. Well if it was before, yeah, that's just everything. 296 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:19,599 If it was early, it can't be later. It can't be later. 297 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:26,119 If you already found it at a date, it carry later. They lied 298 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,519 about bread. It was way later. It could have been later. It 299 00:19:29,559 --> 00:19:33,960 could be like these people that are dinosaur truthers. I don't care what the 300 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:37,839 bones say. They're not real to me. I mean, yeah, I 301 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,359 guess. But yeah, from the archaeological record, we estimate that it was 302 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,720 likely cultivated around ninety six hundred BC and Mesopotamia Fertle Crescent area. Before that 303 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:49,000 though, we were still eating wild wheat, and we know we used to 304 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:53,400 eat wild wheat because hunter gathers in West Asia based on findings we found there, 305 00:19:53,559 --> 00:20:00,359 harvested wild wheats as early as twenty one thousand BC, so early history 306 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,839 humans. So they just find it, grab it, make it and make 307 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,039 it bread or use her something else. Eat it, eat it, eat 308 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:07,440 the kernels. Yeah, yeah, they would eat the kernels, right, 309 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:10,880 And so that was the next point is what we can figure this out, 310 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:14,200 is that that's what this whole episode a sick freak. Yeah, yeah, 311 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,480 so history is a punishment. They're like, hey, what's the worst thing 312 00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:19,319 I'm making to do? It? Grind these kernels till it's dust. Why 313 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,720 don't Why It's a punishment to shut up and do it history and speculate that 314 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:29,119 primitive people probably chewed wheat kernels to turn them into powder in her mouths, 315 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,519 okay, before they learned to pound them into flour or soak them to soften 316 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:36,720 the kernels. Later, were they making bread in their mouths? Was it 317 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:40,519 like getting a margaritea poored in your mouth at a bar tequila? It was 318 00:20:40,599 --> 00:20:42,079 kind of like you were making mouth porridge. Yeah yeah, I mean, 319 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:47,160 I gotta imagine wild wheat kernel one. It's really spiky and hard and sucks. 320 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,160 So you're sitting there chewing it for a while. But that's actually what 321 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,119 coyote ugly started with kernels, just kernels in your mouth. It was the 322 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,160 first ever coyote ugly twenty one thousand BC. Dried corn kernel in your mouth. 323 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,119 But she choose it and baby birds you and then it's kind of hot 324 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:06,319 and your dirty little pay page. Here's my mouth porridge, all right. 325 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:11,160 Yeah, but we were also just harvening the ship out of wild wheat because 326 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,839 colonels, you know, held energy well and didn't spoil quickly. So we've 327 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,839 started figuring out it's pretty good winter resource. It's something we could keep right 328 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:22,880 when the buffalo leaves, yeah, pretty much, or whatever, when the 329 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,319 mammoth leaves, whenever the thing stops being in the field. Yeah. So 330 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,599 yeah, family is kind of bitches. Mammoths. Yeah, I have no 331 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,880 idea. Why are they extinct? We killed we hunted them, yes, 332 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,680 motherfucker confirmed. Bitches. Well we're bringing them back. They're huge, you 333 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:42,759 know, we're bringing them back to uh stomp down the permafrost. Yeah. 334 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:47,400 I guess they're just going to be on a ranch in Texas to hunt. 335 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:52,319 Right. There's just it's just elephants with fur. Yeah, yes, pretty 336 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,799 much. Put a jacket on an elephant you want to come out to the 337 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:57,400 corporate retreat. We're killing a mammoth. It seems easier to just transport these 338 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,519 elephants put jackets on. What if that would like claim they clooned to Bamboth 339 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:10,000 that just glued fir to an elephant and got CEO's hair on it. They 340 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,960 just abe Lincoln to fucking elephant. There was that one guy. I forget 341 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,279 who it was. Actually it might have been Eric Trump. It's actually it's 342 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:21,039 a lot of people, So I'm not gonna with the Dennis who just know. 343 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,440 It's just like you basically get your handheld walking like right up to a 344 00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:29,839 dying animal, and animal, yeah, it's it's your it's pay for poach. 345 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:33,480 You know you can pay. We have a friend that told us basically 346 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:37,039 like if you have enough money, no reserve is gonna be like you can't 347 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:38,400 kill that animal. They'd be like, all right, that's gonna help us 348 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,759 save a lot more. We also have a friend that you can hunt a 349 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:45,119 human. Wait really yeah, for the right price, you just kill poachers. 350 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,240 You go to funt the poachers. That's awesome. I know I'm kind 351 00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:53,039 of into that. And for what it's for everyone anyone thinks that's fucked up. 352 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,240 Let me just say poachers do ship like cut the horns off a live 353 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:03,039 rhinos with a chainsaw. Yeah, so one of the rhinos just technically went 354 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:06,279 extinct. It was the black rhino. No, it was a white. 355 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:11,359 I thought we thought they were inseminating her. No, like it's technically extinct. 356 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,759 Now there's only like one or two left and they can't mate. Yeah 357 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:17,759 whatever, we'll clone him. It's fine for Yeah, speaking of cloning. 358 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:26,039 Netflix recommendation, they just dropped a Ryle uh documentary, what rialism documentary? 359 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,880 Oh, they get Ryle the prophet on the documentary. That's the swastika Jewish 360 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,680 thing. Yeah, that's the UFO col Yeah. Yeah, with their symbol 361 00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:37,079 is the Star of David with a swastika inside of it. Yeah, yeah, 362 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,920 confusing everyone. We just we did an episode on that. I think 363 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,279 there was a patreonic with that Patreon Yeah but great, great interview. Yeah 364 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:48,200 there founder is still alive. Yeah, he's in Japan. So the reason 365 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,519 we even did that episode, I think is because I saw a Prius driving 366 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,480 around with with the with the symbol is the Star of David with the swastika 367 00:23:56,519 --> 00:24:00,319 inside, and I was like, I don't know what the fuck that is. 368 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,680 But that is insane. And then I texted it to the co exists. 369 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:11,960 Yeah excuse me what No, but you texted us as like, oh 370 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,160 that's ryle Is. Yeah you knew what it was that. I was like, 371 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,160 yeah, that's that was a new one for me. Yeah. No, 372 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:19,319 that is one of the most insane cults. Coke this pump. It's 373 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,000 just a rile. Dude. I don't want to I don't want their attention. 374 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,960 Yeah, like they're creepy. I don't really want the smoke of anything 375 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:30,319 to do with Israel right now. I just want to like stand back, 376 00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:37,440 yep. Same, Let the literal dust settle yep. Okay. AnyWho, 377 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:45,519 Our first uh processed food ever was likely porridge. So uh what they would 378 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:48,359 do primitive humans? They would soak the wild greens and heat them up to 379 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,720 get a softened kernel mash basically right, They start figuring that out pretty quick. 380 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,400 So porridge is the first food ever really cooked first, like processed food, 381 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,440 not like cooked meat over a fire, right or just meat to fire. 382 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:04,440 This is like something that is broken down or like you know, changed 383 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:10,039 from its original state quite a bit, but it's still a product. But 384 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,200 the funnest fact of this early history stuff is bread actually predates the cultivation of 385 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:18,039 grain. Yeah, they were making bread out of wild stuff. But they 386 00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:19,359 were making out of wild stuff. That makes more sense because then it's like 387 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,200 shit, this por bread or porridge or whatever is super useful. We're getting 388 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,440 from the wild stuff. What if we start growing because we know that, 389 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,240 sure they have an awareness of seeds. Yes, we'll get to that in 390 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:34,480 a moment. But yeah, I want to hunt my wheat. Well you 391 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,400 will never be able to because there is no more wild wheat. God damn 392 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,039 it. Yeah, and I don't think you would very this was what they 393 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:42,920 took from us. You wouldn't enjoy it. This is what they took from 394 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:45,759 us. Right here, see this, it's right in front of you. 395 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:48,319 This is what they took from us. They took it from you. You 396 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,960 have it, it's in your hand. I feel like I can't eat it 397 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:53,880 right now though, Well you can't because you have to show it off. 398 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,319 Yeah, but yeah. Charred crumbs of a flat bread made by Natufian hunter 399 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,839 gatherers from wild wheat, wild barley, and plant roots were found. They 400 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,799 dated these crumbs at fourteen thousand, six hundred years old to eleven thousand, 401 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:12,039 six hundred years ago. Okay, So eleven thousand and six hundred would be 402 00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:18,640 right about exactly when we started cultivating wheat. Okay, So, and that's 403 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,799 about I think that's like a thousand years before carahan Tepe. Yeah, so 404 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,880 we've been We've known about mashing this shit together and heating it for a long 405 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,759 time. This was found in Jordan, by the way, in the black 406 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:34,000 desert, so this would be really close to kraahan Tepe too, Yeah, 407 00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:38,799 pretty much. Yeah, and this is also this is proof that bread production 408 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:44,440 predates wheat cultivation by thousands of years. So archaeologists, for whatever reason, 409 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:47,440 think that this was likely a rare occasion food, like a special treat. 410 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:49,680 Yeah, like flat breads. They would just mash this shit up and slap 411 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,440 it on the inside of a hot wall, kind of like a Tandori oven. 412 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:57,319 Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not sure why they think it was 413 00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:00,960 a special treat because, like, to me, I think they probably baked 414 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,519 it. It's like, oh, now I have portable porridge. Yeah like 415 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,599 that that makes the most sense to me. It's cooked, it's hard, 416 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,279 I don't have to worry about a bowl. Yeah, I don't know why 417 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:10,400 they would think that. I mean, it's a theory, like, it's 418 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,799 not like a bad theory necessarily, But I don't know why that would take 419 00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:15,039 presence over them doing it regularly. If the only evidence you have that it 420 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,200 wasn't done regularly is that you haven't found more spots, that's not well, 421 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,079 how many spots, Like it's fourteen thousand years old, right? But yeah, 422 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,680 sure for the hunter gather on the go exactly. It's the first granola 423 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,480 bar, the first cliff bar. It's the first cliff bar. Is a 424 00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:32,519 shitty flat, but the world runs on duncan. It was weird. They 425 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:36,599 the scoring in the bread was a D and a D either way. To 426 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,559 save some really intensive biological history of wheat. When it ended up happening was 427 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:45,400 we harvested the best weats over thousands of years. Repeated harvesting and sowing up 428 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:51,160 the grains of wild grasses led to the creation of domestic strands. Obviously, 429 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,200 we were eating the ones that were the easiest to break down in our mouths, 430 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,960 shitting those out, and so those seeds get Yeah, this stuff growing 431 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,160 where I pooped pretty much. Yeaheah. By the way, I was gonna 432 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,200 say, we stand on the shoulders of just incredible people. But really we're 433 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:11,880 like we're like blobfish on the shoulders and incredible people the ones they pull you 434 00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:14,359 pull out of the ocean. And it's like, well, like that's what 435 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,519 we're doing. Yeah, we had that, We've had this whole insane thing 436 00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:18,799 built up for us just so we can be like, I mean, we're 437 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:22,240 the trust Fund kids of history. Oh totally. Yeah, it's fucking insane. 438 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,480 So yeah, over thousands of years of just eating and shitting wheat and 439 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:30,799 harvesting it and sewing it and reaping it, the wheat continues to get better 440 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,160 for humans the more we eat it. Yeah, evolving to be better for 441 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,359 humans. It's it's a two way street on that because that's the thing. 442 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:45,279 The wheat gets more replicated more. Yeah, so it's helping the wheats replication, 443 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:48,440 which is all really any cell wants to do. It's really good for 444 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,880 I'm about to get into a very long argument for why wheat probably evolved us 445 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,920 as much as we have until all the hose got gluten allergies, until the 446 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,680 hose got gluten allergies, and that that is probably due to high process like 447 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:06,960 hyper processing more so than gluten being bad for you. One day wheat just 448 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:15,599 wakes up and it's like what am I? Yeah, we eat and harvest 449 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,279 this wheat, this wild wheat, so much that we likely change the way 450 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,359 we as people and we exist as species together forever with a symbiotic relationship. 451 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,880 Yeah, think about it for just a second. Ten thousand years ago, 452 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,920 wheat was just a wild grass and like one part of the world, just 453 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,240 the Fertile Crescent, right, it was a it was a unique in the 454 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:36,799 United States or anything. Nope, not even native. We is native to 455 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,039 one place historically, and that is the Fertile Crest. Shit, I didn't 456 00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,119 know that. Yeah, now where the bread basket of the world over the 457 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,279 course of just the other main wheat producers are Russia and Ukraine. Yeah, 458 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,720 there's a great map. You can look it up if you go to like 459 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,319 if you google like wheat growing history, like it all starts in that, 460 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:57,160 like you know, arch right around the Fertile Crescent, and then over time 461 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,759 it's just like explodes across like your temperate climates. They have since replaced it 462 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:06,960 with heroin. Heroin is doing well. Heroin's doing well for sure, But 463 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,359 yeah, wheat has become one of the most successful plants in history of the 464 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,880 Earth. In areas such as the Great Plains of North America, where not 465 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,119 a single wheat stock grew ten thousand years ago, you can today walk for 466 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,599 hundreds of miles without encountering any other plant than wheat. Like, wait, 467 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:25,400 could you make heroin bread? No? Heroin? So heroin has made I 468 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,960 don't know if I'm allowed to say how it's produced on a live show, 469 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,039 but I'm gonna do it anyway. Heroin has grown like it comes from the 470 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:36,920 opium poppy. And what happens is you score the stalk and then the gel 471 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,279 of the stock, like the ooze that comes out when you score it. 472 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Yeah, that's dried, and that's opium, okay, and then that is 473 00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:48,559 I don't know the synthesization probably process, so I probably won't get in trouble 474 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:51,839 here, but all heads are here. Yeah, it synthesizes down. You 475 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,960 synthesize that opium down into heroin. Okay. Yeah, but it's like a 476 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,279 powder, right, it can be powdered when it's dried, but it's not 477 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,319 like, yeah, it's not a starchy powder. Okay. Yeah, I 478 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,000 just want to eat heroin bread. I mean, I'm sure I could put. 479 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,039 I'm sure you can get them in Afghanistan. What if I just get 480 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,920 a bunch of fentanyl pills and grind it into a powder, Yeah, and 481 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000 then make bread. It's not gonna make bread. It's gonna be like a 482 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:17,519 banana bread style, you know, like it's gonna might within thirty seconds. 483 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,599 You need to mix it with the powder for sure to or you need to 484 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,920 mix it with flour, like you need something to create a structure that make 485 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,359 pure fentanyl bread. You can't make pure feneryl bread. Stupid. I think 486 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,519 you just might kill you. We get a listener that sends in just a 487 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,240 hey man, I made the feneryl bread. Do not do that. Please 488 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,279 don't do that. Please don't do not come, do not come. So, 489 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:41,440 yeah, it makes a lot of people. This fact that it's grown 490 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:45,319 so much and spread across the world so much. A question if wheat actually 491 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:52,880 domesticated us more than we domesticated wheat. And the author of Sapiens that book 492 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,319 has a pretty big argument for it. Yeah, it's like the last of 493 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,720 us, but it's not fungus, it's wheat. It's wheat, right, 494 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,519 So his argument is that we had been living a fairly comfortable life hunting and 495 00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,440 gathering until the wheat got better, and then we started to invest more and 496 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:13,799 more effort in cultivating. So all human suffering is over it because of wheat. 497 00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,079 Wheat just like grow me. Well, you have the probiotics in your 498 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,880 stomach, which again second brain of the body. Yea, control you right, 499 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:28,039 And wheat does have an effect on your internal microbiome with gluten does, 500 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,759 especially like people with gluten intolerance. Is that shit like the little silica awake 501 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,400 man, the ones with the cilia that move food through your system, Like 502 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,079 those people, when gluten interacts with it, it kills it. So it's 503 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,480 like their food. They have lots of indigestion problems that can send them to 504 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,920 the hospital. Just independent thinkers. They're slowing the stown. If you can't 505 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,640 eat the thing that built civilization, I'm sorry what yeah, Like off to 506 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,440 the side, Jake, What do you think we should do with them? 507 00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:01,400 We made gluten free stuff for them. Should they reproduce, I don't care. 508 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:07,920 Should they be castrated, no, not at all. Sent the camps 509 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,920 into caves no no, no, no, drowned. I would never do 510 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:17,079 that underwater caves. Uh So, anyway, not continuing this gluten intolerant camps. 511 00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,960 We're gluten intolerant, intolerant, just learning to be tolerant. Yeah, 512 00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:30,240 tolerance camps, gluten intolerance camps. Uh but yeah, his argument. You 513 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:32,680 know, we had this comfortable life hunting and gathering, and once the wheat 514 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,599 started getting better, we started putting more effort into cultivating, and thus the 515 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:42,920 agricultural revolution is born, and that essentially creates unnatural labor for men. Now, 516 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,440 what do you mean by unnatural labor? Think about it this way. 517 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,519 Wheat requires fields to be cleared and other plants to be removed from its space 518 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,680 to prevent nutrient loss to the wheat. So men and women labored long days, 519 00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:57,480 weating under really hot suns and clearing land, moving rocks, getting the 520 00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,759 rocks off that we would not be doing otherwise. It should be like, 521 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,079 dude, it's hot out, stay in the shade. Yeah, chill out, 522 00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:06,920 we'll get something later. We'll go gather when it's cooler. It also 523 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,239 requires water to grow wheat, right, so people had to start lugging water 524 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,239 to their wheat fields. That when it first starts out is backbreaking labor. 525 00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:20,519 I mean that is like, you're not meant to do that as a person. 526 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,360 Yeah, the heaviest load you're supposed to carry, it's probably a child 527 00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:32,280 or boy. I carry so many heavy loads countless. I'll have heavy loads 528 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,840 until i'm probably like eighty five ninety. You tell poo poos, I don't 529 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,480 think so you think it's something nuts? Yeah, I think you're gonna be 530 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:44,079 You don't think you think I'm shooting just nothing? Okay, So it's nuts 531 00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:47,519 guy. Yeah, I think you're gonna be spitting spittle by the time you're 532 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:54,400 eighty just a little. Yeah, I think you're gonna be blasting loads like 533 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,599 you're third Yeah. Right, I can't talk shit to you every time you 534 00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:00,440 have sex with your wife, you have a child, Yeah, you want 535 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,360 to talk You want to talk to a guy with loads over here? Dust 536 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:08,480 in the meaning anyway, all this backbreaking labor compared to killing something or just 537 00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:13,480 pulling shit off of a plant that was already growing, is pretty significant. 538 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,599 It's so there's a deep irony in it too. And like the existence of 539 00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:19,679 humans, right, so we're doing this thing where we just sit around all 540 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,960 day. I mean, look, there's bad parts. Obviously, you cut 541 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,000 your foot, you're dead or something, you know, But but like you 542 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:27,880 know, you're sitting around all day chilling, you go out. It's just 543 00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,639 vibes, man, we made that fun of that tweet or whatever. Just 544 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,840 vibes in paleolithic times, Neil even no Neolithic will be farming, so paleolithic. 545 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,559 And then we're doing all this work and now basically our only goal is 546 00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:44,079 just to get back to doing as little as possible. No, for sure, 547 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,400 but now we can do it without dying of an infection and all of 548 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,559 our infants fucking and women dying in time, we took the long way. 549 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,039 Check it out. We might also still die from that. What those people 550 00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:59,880 that want to live that life, maybe maybe they pass on the same medication. 551 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,199 Yeah, they probably do. I want to live that life, but 552 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:08,840 indoors. Hmmm, interesting that life doesn't exist indoors, that life is only 553 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,559 outside. No, no, no, I mean I just want to lay 554 00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:13,440 around and do nothing. Oh yeah, you can do that. It's just 555 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,000 being sedentary. Yeah. The other thing about wheat is that it's defenseless against 556 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:21,400 other things that like to eat it, so you know, rabbits, locus 557 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,400 swarms, things like that, so people had to guard and protect it. 558 00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:30,199 The new agricultural tasks demanded so much time and people needed to protect their crop, 559 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:35,599 so inevitably people were forced to settle permanently next to their wheat fields. 560 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,320 They couldn't just let it like, yeah, I can go keep wandering. 561 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:42,880 The joke, they didn't have private security. They invented it. They invented 562 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,679 it for this. All labor, all of our our concept of work comes 563 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:51,039 from wheat. The concept of labor comes from wheat. This sounds like a 564 00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:53,639 jake fact. It's not, man, I mean, I'm sure there was 565 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,679 labor and other things, like I'm sure they were We're gonna clip this, 566 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,400 it's gonna be so wrong. I mean that's not technically true. They were 567 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,119 building, they were building and stuff. Yeah, but like it was farming. 568 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,480 I think the amount of like the concept of like daily work is with 569 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,960 wheat and agriculture, though not just wheat, but you know, potatoes, 570 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:21,880 I think corn, any sort of like growth of plants they have to maintain. 571 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:27,079 But we call it the maybe more like the standardization of labor, sure 572 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,079 than the invention hard labor at that yeah yeah, yeah, because I mean 573 00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:32,719 sure, yeah, going and killing something is a labor, right yeah. 574 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,199 Well, and building, I mean, and they also built. I mean, 575 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:43,119 like I think in palallyptic times. Certainly they did what seemed like laborious 576 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:47,360 artwork for example, or laborious Uh you mean those stick figures they drew in 577 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,480 the caves. No, man, there's carving. There's big carvings and stuff 578 00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:52,800 like that. You're talking about. Man, it all started with wheat. 579 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,440 You guys are wrong. I respect that. Yeah, So what does domesticate 580 00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:05,960 mean? It comes from damas, which means dominate house house damas who ended 581 00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:09,159 up living in the house us or the wheat m hm hmmm, hm hmm. 582 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,079 We think wet domesticated us. We domesticated. That is really funny. 583 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,519 Of yeah, we are last of us by wheat? Does weat have a 584 00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:22,000 thing? So I'm sure maybe you heard this before, but like cats have 585 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:27,079 ship that gets into your brain? Wheat, Yeah, I mean the fact 586 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:30,519 that its food makes your brain light up like crazy. Okay, but yeah, 587 00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,679 when you're around cats, Oh, it makes you want to be around 588 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,000 cats more because they have like some sort of you don't have like a toxoplasma 589 00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:40,039 situation with wheat that we know of. It's just that it makes really sustainable 590 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:45,719 food. Okay, people being hungry, people being hungry, So yeah, 591 00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:51,840 we had to build houses be still and start working. All we already built 592 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,679 houses. Prior to that, we built more. Okay, we built more 593 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,760 like we had I think houses, but like you know, because I think 594 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,320 there were probably I'm almost positive on this. You know, it's not like 595 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,920 the entire world was necessarily hunter gatherer. Like if you lived near say a 596 00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:14,559 river or a part of a shoreline that was always rich with fish, yeah, 597 00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:15,760 you just stayed still, right, yeah, no, why would you 598 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,840 move? But yeah, okay, so we at least we're a lot more 599 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,400 still as a as a as a people, as a species. Across the 600 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,280 board, we were building more houses, we were settling down a lot more. 601 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,880 We're working a lot harder, so much so that ancient skeletons indicate the 602 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,960 transition to agriculture brought about ailments such as like the agricultural revolutions. When we 603 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,159 start seeing things like slipped discs, yeah, and like hernias and like fucked 604 00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:43,760 up feet. They were just starting to deadlift. It was yeah, they 605 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,159 were terrible. They were deadlifting water buckets to the fields right, just all 606 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,360 back. And the question becomes like what did this ship offer if we were 607 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,639 like way more chilled out, Yeah, and this is way harder why did 608 00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,960 something so much harder, uh than what we were doing become so and an 609 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:05,960 individually person a person, we benefited no one, It benefited no single person 610 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:08,360 that much because the amount of work was insane. However, what it did 611 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,800 do was offer more stable and consistent food for our social groups and tribes as 612 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,719 a whole. We're you know, we're already social people at this point, 613 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,159 right, living in tribes of probably around one hundred for the greater good, 614 00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:23,239 deep, the greater good, that's right to good. So this weak cultivation 615 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,000 allowed us to multiply rapidly and stay alive even under some of the shittiest conditions 616 00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:32,039 like changes in herd migration or wild vegetation famin or long winners or things like 617 00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:37,719 that. And that allowed us to stay alive. So, you know, 618 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:43,199 while we did grow, we exploded as a species because of this, we 619 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,360 also ended up working a lot harder for it. Got a grind, Yeah, 620 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,639 and it's definitely like a shift from hey, just get stuff, like 621 00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:52,039 you're doing your little thing to ever, we are all working on this thing 622 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:58,079 that make this work. Everyone's on their grind. So yeah, with all 623 00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:02,719 this wheat, they're making porridge and essentially flatbreads like tortillas or chapati is probably 624 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,199 the closest Indian example, not non because non levens, yeah, a little 625 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,159 bit. So how do we get to traditional leven sourdough bread of today from 626 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,199 this ship we were harvesting, you know, tens of thousands of years ago 627 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,840 to make kernel porridge in our mouth. You know. There's a couple theories 628 00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:24,159 and they all start in pre dynastic Egypt around six thousand BC. So Egypt 629 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:30,440 invented sourdough bread pretty much. Yeah, okay, that's what the consensus is, 630 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:31,360 right now, what were they eating it? Wait? And what'd you 631 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,880 say? Six thousand BC? Six thousand BC? Pre dynastic Yeah, okay, 632 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,559 so that's presumer as well. So this is not even a civilization yet. 633 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,039 It's it's I mean, it's a civilization. There's sourdough bread before the 634 00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:46,079 Pyramids. It's prehistoric though, right, Oh yeah, it's pretty pre pre 635 00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:50,199 riding. Prehistory just means before writing, before writing, which was how long 636 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,920 are the pyramids? Three thousand BC? Was pre was writing three or four 637 00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:58,360 thousand BC? Yeah, and the pyramids were like two thousand BC, yeah, 638 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,000 twenty five hundred BC. Something kind of insane. If we bought the 639 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,199 pyramids before soured ought bread, that would be nuts. Yeah, but it 640 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,679 wouldn't be that crazy. 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Yeah, it's brained 700 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,000 in a barley vat Yeah, and they're like, whoa this is the best 701 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,719 thing I've ever had. Yeah, that's actually happened with Jesus too. They 702 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,719 didn't put him in the tomb, They left the mountain in the sunny. 703 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,519 He rose, He rose. I thought you were about to say that someone 704 00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:14,320 just left their sperm on a chair. Baby was now married. Rose, 705 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,800 it rose, Yeah, sat on the toilet and actually to make a starter 706 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,760 from scratch, it does take about three days for it to rise. M 707 00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:28,159 just connecting dots, yes, question questions. Uh number two. Someone left 708 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,199 porridge. This is my favorite one. Someone left porridge in a corner for 709 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,000 too long. They were lazy, like someone you know. It was a 710 00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:36,599 guy. He was not dumb with this porge, was like fucking this porche 711 00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:37,800 taste like ass Yeah, put it in a corner, didn't clean the dish. 712 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,199 He's like, wife will do it, something like that, and that 713 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,480 rose and the wife I'm guessing, or whoever was in the house with him. 714 00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:49,559 Yeah, it's like that fucking asshole just threw the bowl on the fire 715 00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:52,679 and it rose. Yeah, and it turned into bread, So you can 716 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,440 thank laziness. Yes, or it rained in an open porridge flower container, 717 00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,679 an open flower container and got grossed. Someone decided to throw it in the 718 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,119 fire. All of it is weird. Yeah, well, it's not important 719 00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:08,559 to know exactly how it was discovered. It is what we discovered, which 720 00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:14,719 is incredibly important. Some type of combo of heat and time allows shit porridge 721 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,719 and ship flatbread to double or even triple in volume. This is a magical 722 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:23,920 moment. We just doubled our food. Jesus back to Jesus. Yeah, 723 00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:30,199 turning one loaf into fucking forty loads. What if Jesus is just a baker 724 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,119 iteration of the story of a baker over and over. You see this loaf 725 00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:40,079 here. Now, the food was also more nutritious too, So when you're 726 00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:45,639 adding water to flour and kneading it, that's how gluten is created. Gluten 727 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,039 is two proteins that are bonded together through the agitation of it in water, 728 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,840 through smashing, yeah, through smashing it in water basically it you know, 729 00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:58,519 makes them sticky. Right, So you're creating a protein. Now, so 730 00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:02,840 that's more beneficial than protein though it's more than none, which is incredible, 731 00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:09,840 Like just you're adding it's infinitely more protein, right, all things considered, 732 00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:15,000 Like, so you're adding protein, you're adding minerals to by having the fermentation 733 00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:20,280 process going on, So you're having minerals, vitamins, things that really help 734 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,199 enrich the diet are being created with this leavened bread process. Now, and 735 00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:28,159 then how long do you have to wait till it just turns into alcohol? 736 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,639 Alcohol? I don't know. Alcohol is a long time. Just wait long 737 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,039 enough. Yeah, I mean yeast is there's alcohol creation happening when you're making 738 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:42,639 bread. Yeast. All yeast does is turn sugar into alcohol. So that's 739 00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,679 what yeast does. But that process creates gases which allow the breads to rise 740 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,760 as well. And then the gluten that you're making while needing is creating the 741 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,199 structure that allows the bread to rise without breaking. Basically, once we figured 742 00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:57,360 all that out, people got to exploring and trying different things and sharing knowledge. 743 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,239 Different bakers from different locales had different producssses, and the bread was a 744 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,639 defining regional thing as well. So as much as there were like, oh, 745 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,159 people like that that look like that or sound like that are from Italy, 746 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,960 they also eat bread like this. Yeah. It's a very like kind 747 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,280 of like beer too, like the local alcohol spells of beer. Yeah. 748 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,039 Yeah, So for instance, it speaking of beer, the Galls and Iberians 749 00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:22,840 used foam skimmed from beer to produce a lighter kind of bread than other people. 750 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,440 So they realized that there was a connection and fermentation, whereas parts of 751 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,480 the ancient world that drank wine instead of beer used the paste composed of grape 752 00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:34,320 must and flour that was allowed to begin fermenting, or wheat brands steeped in 753 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,800 wine as a source of yeast. This experimentation leads to baking becoming a profession 754 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,719 of sorts, and by the fifth century BC, bread could be purchased in 755 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,599 Athens from a baker's shop that was over the course of a few thousand years 756 00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:50,440 that people like you have literally five five hundred years. Yeah, they're sick. 757 00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:52,559 Yeah, that's only like, I'm sure there's other bakers. You know, 758 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:58,400 we have recordings before specialized bake shops of there's a guy in town, 759 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,159 you bring your bread to him, he bakes it for you. I mean 760 00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:05,920 work specialization probably happened pretty quick, I would imagine, Yeah, for sure. 761 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:09,360 You know, obviously there's reports in Rome of Greek bakers appearing in the 762 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:15,559 second century BC once they take over Asia Minor. Yeah, the foreign bakers 763 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,000 of bread in Rome. This is kind of where things really exploit though of 764 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:22,159 like the art form of making this kind of shit that's over here. Foreign 765 00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:24,880 bakers of bread in Rome were permitted to form a college. Basically, the 766 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,000 Romans were like, bread is so important. All you different bread bakers get 767 00:50:29,039 --> 00:50:31,320 together, start sharing your ideas. Bread like kind of a currency in Rome. 768 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,280 They would, I mean you could, they would stamp it. I 769 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,519 know. Yeah, it's a currency thousands of years before. Yeah too, 770 00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:43,599 because you know, whereas gold is harder to get, Like, they also 771 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,360 shave lead into their bread. We'll get to that in a moment. Actually, 772 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,440 you're not far off. I was joking. Well, unfortunately that happened. 773 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,519 They're just wrapped it in lead foil bread. Yeah, breath, yeah, 774 00:50:57,639 --> 00:50:59,719 let the lead out. Let the bread up. I can't have fentanyl 775 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,199 bread, but you can need all the lead bread you want. Uh. 776 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,960 The author Athenaeus, who was around one seventy to two thirty eight D, 777 00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:09,519 described some of the bread, cakes and pastries available in the classical world, 778 00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:14,719 and you're gonna be familiar with all of them. Griddle cakes, honey and 779 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,159 oil bread, mushroom shaped loaves covered in poppy seeds, which is probably a 780 00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:25,239 prototypical bagel. Say it again. Muffin, mushroom shaped loaves covered in Oh 781 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,199 it is a muffin the word, how'd you pronounce prototypical? No, bagel, 782 00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:35,559 bagel, he's he decides how to pronounce it. Okay, that's his 783 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,599 food. I it's bagel. Yeah it is bagel. You said it weird. 784 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,000 I didn't a bagel. You can say it however he wants anyway. 785 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,639 I think you said like he says bagelle. That's how it's pronounced in this 786 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,960 room. They also his culture. He's not from New York. I'm not. 787 00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,760 It's not my culture. The type and quality of flowers used to produce 788 00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,639 bread could also vary, as noted by Dephilis when he declared bread made of 789 00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:04,239 wheat as compared to that of barley, is more nourishing, more digestible, 790 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,400 in every way superior. So uh, people started getting real uppity with their 791 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,679 bread. In Rome, in order of merit, bread made from refined, 792 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,480 thoroughly sieved flour comes first. So white bread is like your royalty bread. 793 00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:21,440 That is royalty bread that you're holding. Yeah, sure it is. That's 794 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,840 what the royals made. King bread. It's bread for good, fancy bread 795 00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:30,320 bread. Yeah, I stop giving yourself all this fucking love. It's fine, 796 00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:35,159 loved the bread of an emperor. Well no versus like you're really whole 797 00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:44,360 grain wheat like shit, well two kings, bro, but yeah, and 798 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:49,480 then like bread from ordinary wheat and like non shifted flower went to like peasants. 799 00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:51,719 Basically yeah, yeah, you just need to keep you a lot to 800 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,119 work. Basically, in medieval Europe, bread served not only as a staple 801 00:52:55,199 --> 00:53:00,639 food but also as part of table service. So after or the follow Reman 802 00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:02,719 Empire, they're like, oh, you know what we could do, Let's 803 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,840 make plates out of bread. Let's make a trotch out of bread. Bread 804 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,840 plates, bread plates, yeah, which I think should come back in style 805 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,880 for sure. In the stable. What if actually, let's just go to 806 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,960 a place that gives you free bread and butter, like out back or something, 807 00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:21,639 and like just make can you serve the steak on this on this plate 808 00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:24,480 of bread I've made? So in the standard table setting of medieval Europe is 809 00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:28,960 a what's called a trencher, which is a piece of stale bread roughly six 810 00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:31,960 by four inches, so like a small plate bread. Yeah, and it 811 00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:36,039 was served as an absorbent plate. So when food was scarce in all two 812 00:53:36,039 --> 00:53:39,760 common occurrents in medieval Europe. At the time, the trencher wind served would 813 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,639 typically be eaten with all like at the end, it's all juicy. You 814 00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:46,719 can eat it again. You eat it, It's like okayon eating a big 815 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,840 crouton. Yeah. In times of like abundance, though, trenchers could be 816 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,639 given to the poor. They'd be like, oh, we saved our plate 817 00:53:53,719 --> 00:54:00,079 for you. What was that six inch by four inch he's called the trencher 818 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:06,000 that you're calling your dick. Now calling my dick the trench the trench so 819 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,559 sounds so foul, the trench, the trench. It was not until the 820 00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:15,719 fifteenth century that trenchers made of wood started to replace bread. So for a 821 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,000 long time, like five hundred years. Like peasants, bread soon became furious 822 00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,199 and told to eat the new trenchers. It's like this is wood, yeah, 823 00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:29,039 like but yeah. One of the first like food regulation laws was passed 824 00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:32,960 in Britain. It's called the I think it's pronounced a Seas of Bread and 825 00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:37,840 Ale And this was done in the thirteenth century. So price, weight and 826 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,639 quality of bread and beer was regulated by this law. And because people are 827 00:54:40,639 --> 00:54:45,960 trying to sell moldy ass bread and bread eaten by rats in the back and 828 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,159 stuff like that is normal bread, sounds communists. Let the markets decide. 829 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,880 Yeah, so I mean no, I think it was so bad. People 830 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,199 were dying at such a clip from eating bad bread they were. That's the 831 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,840 market deciding, that's true. Yeah, communists, the market decide. I 832 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,719 think it was in the late seventeen hundreds or early eighteen hundreds, greedy bakers 833 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,119 were packing their flour with talc and chalk, and like of course they were 834 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,360 shaved lead like Dan was talking about it was cut. Yeah, they were 835 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,679 cutting their flour to the point where people were getting violently and like chemically hazardlessly 836 00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:23,639 like chemical hazard ill and they had to start. It's like basically our first 837 00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:29,360 processed food laws come from Britain, where it's like let the markets decide. 838 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:35,440 Yeah, let's the market decide. Still, then you get basically from there, 839 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,599 I mean, it all kind of explodes in Rome. That's where you 840 00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:42,519 start seeing like traditional bread really comes with og bread like our current version of 841 00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:45,480 bread gee bread. Yeah, like that that is the first process food probably 842 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,480 ever. Like that, the steps of it, the folding and the stretching, 843 00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:52,159 like where did they get salt? The salt. So likely the reason 844 00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:57,199 why salt is even considering is because they were using sea water. Yeah see, 845 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,320 of course, Yeah, so there's already quite a bit of salinity right 846 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,960 the seen, especially in the Nile, you have that like brackish water. 847 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,960 So yeah, they were using that. It was very salty. It gave 848 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,159 it a nice flavor. No we add salt. They would take a crocodile 849 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,480 and just wring it out. Yeah yeah, yeah, get the crocodile tears. 850 00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,039 That makes sense. But yeah, so we you know, typically this 851 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:21,400 bread that dance holding it takes a lot of stretching and folding and letting it 852 00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:25,159 rest and things like that. Those are things that we now mimic with mechanation 853 00:56:27,159 --> 00:56:30,239 needing machines, things like that rolling pin, rolling pin, although I'm sure 854 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,760 a rolling pin was invented pretty early in human history. Oh totally, a 855 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,440 rolling pin, for sure. Like things for flattening, we're definitely there. 856 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,159 But like and we've perfected it with wonderbread. Wonderbread is the bastard non bread 857 00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:45,440 of bread. Basically, if you don't like wonderbread, then you don't like 858 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,760 human history. You don't like you You're you're you're shitting on our ancestors. 859 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,320 What are you talking about? You're shitting on this country. You should have 860 00:56:53,360 --> 00:57:00,480 got a humanity with wonder bread. When was wonderbread made? It was invented 861 00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:05,400 I think in the forties. If i'm Rembert Man, it was invented in 862 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,119 nineteen twenty one, Okay, so yeah, around that's right around the early 863 00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:14,679 twenties is when you start seeing loaves of today and like American Yeah, you 864 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,679 know, the nature's one of the best times to ever live. The Roaring 865 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,840 twenties. Yeah. They advertised it as not having holes in it, which 866 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,840 was like the big thing. It's like, oh, it's all surface. 867 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:29,480 You're not getting robbed with shitty air, yeah, which is terrible. That 868 00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:31,719 means there's no fermentation happening in the bread process, which means it's gonna be 869 00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:36,199 harder on your guts. You're getting ripped off if you're not eating wonder bread. 870 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,280 Yeah, that paint holes holes? Isn't Jake's bread quite a few? 871 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,639 Oh my god, you're not even giving me bread. You just gave me 872 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:49,400 some air. The whole point of bread is to capture air. It's it's 873 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,119 you're doubling your il air. I can fit my trencher in one of these 874 00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:59,159 holes, Trencher. But yeah, no, So you know bread, for 875 00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:01,719 a long time, you used to be three ingredients. According to the FDA, 876 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,559 it was water, flour, and salt in you know, yeast, 877 00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:08,440 whatever you want to call it. That that was kind of implied. Now 878 00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:13,079 you can have up to like I think it's thirty eight different ingredients. Smart. 879 00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:16,320 Yeah, So everything that comes in a seram bag with a brand on 880 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:22,280 it, it's fucking candy. That's what you need. It's got all the 881 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,920 sugars you need and the microplastics you want and crave to keep you immortal. 882 00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:32,639 That's right. But yeah, ultimately the origin of bread is people. Just 883 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,239 man, I'm tired of chewing these kernels. Nah, the origin of bread 884 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,199 is wheat. Being like, we must replicate. It's true though, Like 885 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,840 if you look at think of like a successful business, right, Like, 886 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,519 what is a successful business is mean kpi? How many dollars it has? 887 00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:53,239 So what is a successful like genetic kpi? How many copies of DNA are 888 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:59,039 floating around of you? Yeah, for us and wheat, once we started 889 00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:04,079 working together, we became the most prominent grass on earth. Everybody wins. 890 00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:08,320 We became the biggest species on earth like most powerful. Yeah, funny story. 891 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:14,920 Actually nineteen twenty I think is also around the invention of I want to 892 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,400 say it's around the invention of wonder bread. Actually, not that there's any 893 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:22,639 causation there, but that's the peak of human growth in terms of like upward 894 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,519 up on the graph. Yeah, bread rules everything around me. But no, 895 00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:30,119 then the wonder bread comes and starts going down. The convenience, I 896 00:59:30,239 --> 00:59:34,280 think is the problem. Okay, yeah, we are might have told me, 897 00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:38,639 Yeah, so would you learn to die? We are slaves to grass? 898 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,599 Yeah, I just said that, brain baby bram Bream. Yeah, 899 00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:46,559 no, I've learned definitely that we are probably wheats, little bitch. Yeah, 900 00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:50,079 we're living in the last of the Yeah, the wheat. It's just 901 00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:52,320 it's it's boring though it's not so obvious, but that's exactly how it is 902 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,599 in real life. Yeah, it's a slow, slow Yeah. We can't 903 00:59:55,639 --> 01:00:00,360 get domesticated by a fungus. We already got domesticated by a grass. Anything 904 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,880 now though, is that wheat can't exist without human intervention? So wheat needs 905 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,280 us as much as we need wheat. I don't think so That's why I've 906 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,159 gone carnivore. Buddy, Okay, Actually we probably need wheat a lot less 907 01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:15,360 than wheat needs us. Wheat right now is so like, it's so like 908 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,840 basically you need human threshing in order to get it to I never want to 909 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,760 take another solid shit in my life. When what when people say beef is 910 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:30,280 grass fed? Is it eating wheat? What's it eating? Imagine? I 911 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:38,320 don't know. Weat in marijuana. Yeah, it chills out the cow and 912 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:45,400 that's why the meat so tender and delicious. Okay, So it is just 913 01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:47,559 pure grass. Like if it was eating wheat grass, it would be a 914 01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:51,880 green fed. Okay, yah, a grass fed is supposed to be anti 915 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,559 grain. Yeah, it's just pure grass on that. How about you, 916 01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:58,639 Dan, would you learn to bream? Yes, who's Hitler? Wheat? 917 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,920 Wheat might be wheat, it's wheat Hitler. Wheat might be Hitler, but 918 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,360 it's also like a it's kind of like a benevolent dictator. Yeah, it 919 01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:08,119 is chill Hitler. Wheat is chill Hitler. Yeah, Dan, you're really 920 01:01:09,039 --> 01:01:13,320 I fucking that bread man. I think it's you because there's so many holes 921 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:19,400 in here, so you're jipping the consumer. Actually, wonderbread is our savior. 922 01:01:19,519 --> 01:01:23,800 Wonderbread is the ally that took on wheat. It's like a tasty drywall 923 01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:28,599 fluffy. Well that's it for me, you guys, thanks so much for 924 01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:31,199 listening. For Danner, Justiner, Rob Fox, I'm Jake Goldman. Make 925 01:01:31,239 --> 01:01:35,519 sure to check out the Patreon dot com slash software History. Leave a five 926 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:38,880 star review please and thank you. You need to get to one thousand on 927 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,800 Apple so I can drink again. That'd be cool. That would be cool. 928 01:01:43,639 --> 01:01:46,480 And yeah's software history dot com for merch. But yeah, Jake, 929 01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:50,239 thanks, thanks for having us, Thanks for having me on your show. 930 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,880 Hey, you're welcome. Thanks for making me a biscuit, and thanks for 931 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,480 making me this low for bread. It's actually for rop. Really, just 932 01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:01,840 straight up bit off a piece of the bread for me for Jake Goldman, 933 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,360 probably half of the bread. I'm damn dress, sir. Just pre's delicious. 934 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,440 You just got soft syrved