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Joe Wescolante Life from Hollywood. By
Hollywood, you mean Burbank, But actually

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I'm coming to you today from Pamplona, Spain, at the San Fermin Festival,

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otherwise known as the Running of the
Bulls. But we have Nicki and

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Sam in the studio and I'm just
going to kind of hang out a little

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bit in this first segment and tell
you what's going on, give you the

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news from Pamplona, and then Nicky, you and Sam just take it from

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there, and I'm going to go
to sleep because it is approaching. Well,

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yeah, it's midnight over here.
It's twelve fifteen and it's time to

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go to bed. I thought they
party late out in Spain. Yeah,

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they get up at this time actually
to go rave. Right, you're both

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you're both correct, and they are. Like if I just opened my window,

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you would hear what's going on.
I'll take a quick step out the

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window. You hear that. Oh
my gosh, they're like a protest or

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something going on. No, this
is just constant until like four in the

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morning, and then at about about
the same time the cleanup crew starts cleaning

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the streets. Because you know,
this is Europe, so they pee anywhere,

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and and then soarly, yeah,
well they clean, they clean the

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streets, and then the like the
partiers kind of go away, and then

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the new visitors come for the morning
running the Bulls, which takes place at

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eight a m. But if you
want a good seat for the running of

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the bull you have to get here
at like three in the morning or so.

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And so people are coming in to
stake out their spots, and then

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the party as the party is going
to sleep. Now some of the partiers,

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I think, just just transition from
I'm partying and then oh, look,

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I'm running with the bulls. And
there's two kinds of groups of people.

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Some are coming to watch, you
know, like from behind the fence,

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and some are coming in there to
run actually get in there and run

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with the bulls, which very very
crazy. It's just I mean, the

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best way to witness this is to
go to YouTube and search Pamplona, you

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know, bull running, and you'll
see you can see this morning's already is

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up there and it's going on for
eight days. So the the and then

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there's other people like me who figured
out a way the rounds. Of course,

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right, I pardon you brought your
your training shoes of course, to

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get up in there with the bulls, right, No, I have I'm

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like a third option. I have
a expensive apartment on the bull route with

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a balcony, so we will.
This morning was the first one when we

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just it starts at eight and you
can you kind of get out there on

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the balcony about a quarter to eight, and you see everybody on the streets.

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Everybody's wearing the same outfit. It's
a white outfit with the red scarf

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and a red sash. Everybody has
the same outfit. We have it too.

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And then we watch the bulls go
by and it's just thrilling, and

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then you go inside. Then we
go back inside the apartment and watch the

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replays of the running of the bulls. They just keep showing on this local

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TV channel all day long. I'm
sure there's different angles on different people getting

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splattered by bulls, getting you know, you know, running on the street

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and getting rampled by them and stuff
like that. Have you ever run with

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the bulls? No, I don't
uh do that. I mean, in

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my younger days, I used to
be in the bull fighting world, in

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the amateur world. And and then
so after you've done that, like,

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for real, you don't really have
a desire to run with the bullski.

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It's like a bucket list thing for
people, but not for me. I

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could watch it and then I to
the bulls. You prefer to sit with

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the bulls, well, I just
yeah, I'll just look over the balcony,

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and then after it's done, take
a shower, take a nap,

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and then you go out and buy
your tickets for that evening's event, and

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then get something to eat, take
a nap, go to mass There's,

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there's, there's. It's like a
medieval festival in a way, kind of

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like a Renaissance fair type of thing. There's always a band of some kind

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marching from one place to another.
They just and then people are following them.

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They're all over the place. The
streets are so packed they're barely passable.

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You can get stuck inside, you
can get stuck somewhere where you can't

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get out for a long time.
But it's all super fun and it goes

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on for eight days. I will
be here for eight days, and so

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I appreciate you guys taking over for
me while I'm gone. And other than

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that, you know, the news
is good. Nobody died today one guy

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did get carried away in a stretcher, and they give the reports right after

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the things done. That they have
some two medics go on TV and give

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a report because they're wired up to
every paramedic on the whole route. The

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whole route only takes three minutes for
the bulls to go. There's hundreds of

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people down there. I am watching
a live stream from today's run of the

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bulls, and I'm seeing that the
bulls are a lot faster than the people.

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Yeah, the run is sort of
just a little jog until they duck

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and cover for the sidelines, you
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are a lot. I don't really
know what I expected, but I guess

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I kind of expected the people to
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longer than they do end up doing. Well, that's it. You would

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be a good commentator on this because
the commentator said the same thing. They

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said, these bulls were really fast
today, that was their big comment.

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So they were running super fast.
Usually they get a little distracted and start

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kind of turning around, or they
might fall and then start going after people.

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But today, I think kind of
idea was a pon meal was the

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name of it, and just certain
type of bulls from a certain bloodline.

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These ones are all related and they
all decided we just go really fast,

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and we're very focused, and we're
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so but most of the time there's
a lot more action. So it'll be

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a completely different batch of bulls tomorrow, and they will run in a completely

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different manner. And there's also four
cows they're following, so it's six bulls

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and then there's four cows. The
cows nowhere to go, and the bulls

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follow them and and people get,
they get injured, they get they you

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know, they do. Most of
it is from like a face plant on

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the cobblestone and then just getting run
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The best example I have of it
was from the movie City Slickers back

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from the nineties with Billy Crystal,
where they were a group of friends were

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out adventure seeking and every year they
do something silly, and that year they

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started in Pamplona. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's time. There's a

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lot of people like that letter Ernest
Hemingway types here, but mostly it's it's

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Spaniards from the area, and there's
a few visitors, a few Americans with

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very few. I usually see Japanese
people here, like when I'm watching it

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on TV or at other festivals,
but I haven't seen any Japanese tourists.

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But you know, Japan is so
cheap now that I think everything else is

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expensive for them. They probably don't
go anywhere. I'm planning another trip to

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Japan right now actually as we speak, because of the economy out there.

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Don't let's go a long way.
Oh damn, really get on there.

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Oh yeah, if you're playing a
trip to Japan, now's the time.

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Now is the time. And things
here are not cheap, not expensive,

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about the same as they are back
home. But there's a lot of music.

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There's also a music festival. Some
of the bands that don't pay pera

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is one of the bands that played
at Coachella, and they're playing here,

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and then Mad Professor Reggae guy playing
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Most of them I see are like
basque artists that speak that we're Basque

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language, and so there's like,
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Taylor Swift played last night. She
put on a show. It was identical

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to a Taylor Swift show. Like
little guitar, vocals the piano, and

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then she was on O the talk
shows. Her name was Zato and that

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was interesting. But I think we're
I think about ready to go for the

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traffic. So I think I'm going
to leave you guys to your Hollywood stuff,

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and I can't wait to hear what
you guys do. All right,

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stay safe out there, avoid getting
trampled. And next week, tell us

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if there's any truth to the rumors
that the cows are on performance enhancers,

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because those it looks like they're running
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that might be the scoopa of the
week. I'll check into that. Yeah,

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let us know if it rains in
those planes. I'm excited to hear

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back. Okay, I will,
thanks guys. Joe Escalante live from Hollywood,

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Not really Hollywood. We're actually in
Burbank right now, across the street

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from a Wiener Schnitzel that sells beer. I'm going to go there afterwards and

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get myself a Wiener brow. By
the way, you can obviously tell I

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am not Joe Escalante. I'm Sam, the engineer and producer on the show

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with me right now. We got
associate producer NICKI joining in. Joe,

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thank you so much for joining us
live from Pamplona, Spain. It was

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like super late for him, so
he was ready to crash out, but

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he wanted to spend a couple of
minutes with us and give us the rundown

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on how the Running of the Bulls
was going out in Pamplona. NICKI,

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first off, you had you ever
seen any footage from the running of the

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bulls, Not until I just looked
up the live stream from yesterday's running of

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those bulls, and my god,
they were so fast. I kind of

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hoped that the people would maybe keep
up, but they were taking a quick

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jog for about two minutes in front
of those bulls before just running off into

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the corner. I was like,
guys, come on, get a scooter

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or something. You got to keep
up with these bulls. Yeah. Now,

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if you every year, there's got
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fatalities at least just from people getting
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But yeah, I was talking about
in the last segment. Great movie.

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If you ever want to see kind
of like the lore and the history

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of it. Very quickly is City
Slickers with Billy Crystal from the nineties.

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That's a great movie that really the
first three minutes of the movie is them

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and the first thing you see is
them just running as fast as they can

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from the bulls. It's it's intense, it's a lot of tradition and history

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behind it, and it sounds like
exactly something Joe Escalante would be at.

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So I'm glad he's having a good
time, and we're going to definitely make

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sure that we batten down the hatches
and make sure the ship is covered for

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him while he's out there. But
right now, this is live from Hollywood,

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not live from Pamplona. So what's
more associated with Hollywood than movies?

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And we're going to take a look
at the box office right now, Nikki,

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what are the box office top ten? Right now? What are the

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movies that everybody's been going to see
this week? Well, yeah, right

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right this moment and it's first weekend
out top of the box office is Despicable

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me for But what is it total
gross of? Like already one hundred and

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pretty much a quarter million dollars.
I know some people who are my age,

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like you know, between their twenty
second and twenty fifth birthday, all

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going out this weekend to see it
to party. Oh yeah, I remember

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when it first came out. I
was like eight or something, still a

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baby, so the nostalgia just keeping
it alive for sure. I'm an old

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older guy. I'm in my forties, and I remember when the first one

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came out and it was one of
the most adorable animated films I'd ever seen.

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And after that just you have you
if you get, if you get

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your feelings tickled by a lot of
cute stuff. That movie was just covered

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in cute stuff, and the minions
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So after that, I definitely kept
up with the whole series, especially

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after I had kids. So I'm
definitely gonna be going and seeing Despicable Me

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for this coming week. I'm sure
probably on Tuesday, because you know,

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AMC has that you know Tuesday special
where because most people don't go to movies,

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so let's just make it cheaper for
everybody. And they also set up

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like nice little family deals too.
But number two, so as far as

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family goes, family movies go in
the box office inside out too. That

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one right there, we were just
making some small talk about how much money

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that movie is making worldwide right now? What are the numbers on that?

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So the total gross for that in
its fourth weekend out is already five hundred

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and thirty three million dollars, kind
of inching slowly upwards, insane. It's

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like, what the number one movie
in Mexico of all time? Yeah,

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and it's now the number one film
all time in Mexico. It's like made

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over a billion dollars. It's the
number five animated film of all time.

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Now it's it's making and raking in
bank right now. So that's a movie

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that Disney and Pixar are definitely happy
to have in their slew and because they

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got a lot of the stuff that's
been coming out of Disney has been kind

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of, you know, a little
bit disappointing, especially when you look at

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the Star Wars stuff and it's the
more recent Marvel stuff. But Pixar,

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you can't lose it. Seems like
everything Pixar does is just gold. So

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I'm happy I got to see it. And we were talking about the characters

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on that one. I've ever seen
a better representation visually of anxiety, and

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that's coming from a licensed therapist,
you guys. Oh, yeah, that's

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a diagnosably good movie. Oh yeah, No, there's a moment where you

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see anxiety kind of take control and
go into overdrive, and I was like,

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I had to point it out to
my I have a fourteen year old

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daughter. I'm like, that's a
panic attack. That's a panic attack right

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there, that's what it looks like. I've never seen somebody so happy to

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point out a panic attack. Well, I'm really good at doing like visual

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representations of different feelings like that.
Like a good example of that is the

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movie War Games. I always for
people who tend to overthink things and they

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really can't like find the actual answer, but they're just so stuck in those

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deep thoughts and they're just recycling it. It's like that last scene from the

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movie War Games where all where the
computer is fighting against itself playing tic tac

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toe, trying to figure out that
the best way to not the best way

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to win a battle that you can't
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is to not fight at all.
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different diagnoses that go with them.
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too, where it's like someone imagining
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just a realistic hand comes into their
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Inside Out three perhaps I'm waiting for
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that they knocked it out of the
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to squeeze that for what it was
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that's really cool. Yeah. Next
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a Quiet Place Day one, which
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series? Yeah, and that's another
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the last i'd say like a year
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that as someone who recently just logged
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By the way, Cherry Funfetti,
Cherry with an eye Funfetti like the

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cake. That's my letterbox. You
want to see some of the worst reviews,

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but some of the most accurate star
ratings. Check out my letterbox,

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guys. I like that, Yeah. And then actually following it up is

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Maxine, another horror film from a
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about later in the upcoming movie Long
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horror game. One of my favorite
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good friend of mine. I'm totally
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I was laughing my on the theater
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and then I rewatched it with my
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is actually a horror and so watching
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you, you know, that makes
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a great movie. Oh yeah,
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might have we may have a horror
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Gollner and see if he wants to
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as good a dude. He's one
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the next one in line? Next
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or Die, another Sony movie that
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like the big summer hit that everybody
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press machine behind Will Smith was really
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be the thing that kind of reintroduced
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right, and it's doing pretty well, but it's not doing as well as

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it looks like it was projected to
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for them. But right up after
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Horizon and American Saga Chapter one from
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it's second weekend and it's already at
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haven't seen it, so I don't
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but it looks pretty good. My
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soon because he's kind of addicted to
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Europe from Poland. Violence. Wait, I got to hear his reviewer SEESU.

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I want to. Oh yeah,
I got to hear what he's got

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to say about that movie, because
that I already have the utmost respect for

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your father. A brief interactions that
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how he is, I'm like,
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what his reviews on some great war
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show. I think we can have
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we've got number seven, Sound of
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which I haven't heard of, actually, but I looked it up and it

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looks pretty interesting. Some trot,
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I don't want. Next up,
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ad Now one looked amazing. It's
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The VFX looked stunning when I checked
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looks really good. I'm glad it's
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got The Bike Riders, which I've
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seeing this week. And after that, we've got Kinds of Kindness, which

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was very much into that movie and
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there. Yeah, we got both
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at the top end of the top
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next, we're going to be talking
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from Hollywood. We're going to see
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we got some news for you that
you don't want to miss. Keeper right

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here, this is Joe Escalante live
from Hollywood. We'll be right back right

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after traffic. Joe Escalante Live from
Hollywood, although we're not in Hollywood and

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I'm not Joe Escalante, So how
about that? Got the vegan substitute version

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for you guys this week, the
wish dot Com version of Joe Escalante Live

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from Hollywood. I'm Sam, the
producer on the show. I got assistant

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producer Nikki here. Joe is live
from Pamploa. Thanks Joe again for joining

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us in the first segment. We
really appreciated and giving us the rundown on

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how the Running of the Bulls went
for you. He seriously, that's like

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living in the lap of luxury,
you know what, Like he was saying

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it usually. That reminded me of
like how people line up at three in

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the morning at like the Rose Parade
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I'm like, I'm never gonna do
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on TV. I can't. And
he found kind of like the comfortable middle.

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I'm going out there, but I'm
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this really really nice cush apartment and
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and then just sit there and watch
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It's fantastic, exactly, And I
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that he's in like a one stationary
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and yesterday they ran apparently way too
fast. Commentators at the Running of the

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Bulls were like, Wow, these
guys were kind of a little too speedy,

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so maybe he caught them for a
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you know, I've got overhead footage
of these guys running, I don't really

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want to go anywhere for it.
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pulling a leg muscle by getting up
too fast. Really enjoy that time out

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there, Joe. That's like bucket
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life, no joke, I kind
of want it. He does so many

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amazing things, and I really it's
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one of these days, Joe,
just for surfing in the desert and he's

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sitting for the running of the bulls. I fit in like some larger,

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you know, bags that you can
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that route so we can make that
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some of the movies that did really
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But there's a movie we got coming
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and not just horror, because it's
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of horror film buffs are like,
yes, another great horror film we got

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to go and check out at the
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a cult following as well because it's
gotten Nicholas Cage in it. So Nikki,

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tell me more about folks. I'm
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about this movie for like several different
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is Long Legs. The director Osgood
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He did what was it? It
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I saw about five years ago.
It was a stunning, beautiful, crazy

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horror film, very psychological, that
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who was an amazing actress and you
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mad Men. Yeah, she's grown
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that was a great star in Black
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Osgood Perkins is featuring another amazing scream
queen. We mentioned Mia Goth in the

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last segment, but this girl is
Micha Monroe and she is an amazing horror

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film actress. She was in It
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star. She was also in a
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where you know, she's a little
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an amazing psychological thriller. So this
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that paired with Nicholas Cage as the
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of Nicholas Cage taking over and I
was just reading his character, like the

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the bio on the character that he's
playing, and he's playing an unwell rural

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dollmaker who crafts life size effigies of
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turn homicidal. Okay, yeah,
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horror film and I'm already loving it. And that's the kind of movie that

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you see Nicholas Cage take and turn
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the thing is like in we've been
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maybe year and a half or so, horror films have been thriving in the

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market right now, And you take
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like this that has like the makings
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that Sea Word pandemic that we had everyone's

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kind of looking for that same sense
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that's why everyone's loving these horror movies. But I just like getting stressed out

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about somebody else's problems, you know. So horror movies are already just my

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favorite genre of all time. But
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be the craziest dude ever. Plus
Michael Monroe, plus already so many horror

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movie tropes like this doll making thing. I mean, I haven't seen a

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movie about scary dolls since I think
Hereditary, and that was already so promising.

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voodoo dolls, where if like here's
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poke it with a needle and light
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but this is much more psychological.
You're not dealing with physical pain, which

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is scary enough. You're dealing like
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now you lose psychological control and want
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care about. Yeah, and one
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looking forward to since seeing the trailer
is that they're doing some really interesting stuff

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with the filmmaking. Like they transition
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shots, maybe like on Bowlex.
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aspect ratio for like widescreen film,
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nine depending on like other shots that
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film themselves, So you're switching between
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the film. That just watching the
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that good filmmaking is supposed to give
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there you went into a lot of
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not in the film industry. I
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field and stuff like that, and
I occasionally like have clients that are you

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know, either in associated with the
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that you get that sense of like
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the trailer. It builds the interest
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how you can see it's being filmed, not just the plotline or the storyline,

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because like you can take a storyline
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that you didn't necessarily need to have
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make it look or to set that
sense of tension. It just had that

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sense of tension built in. When
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like have the right kind of camera
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build that sense of tention, it
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it so that feels it makes the
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that indie psycho psychological genre was Disappear
Completely. It's a Mexican horror film that

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one I have to really commend for
the use of filmmaking techniques to increase the

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horror but also just to make some
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a scary movie by things coming out
and bonking on the head and coming out

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from around corners or whatever. But
like, if the filmmaking's good, it's

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gonna make me extra excited. So
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I bought my tickets two weeks ago
for the eleventh. It's coming out July

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eleventh. I'm going to go see
at the Santa Monica AMC. That's my

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big plan. Nice. Nice,
you were talking about horror films and like

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suspense. Really that's the thing.
A lot of times you don't need to

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have the jump scares throughout like routinely
in the movie to make a genuinely scary

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film. A great example of that
is the movie Audition, the Japanese film

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where the entire movie is a setup
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a sense of horror and the payoff
it pays off, it's so good.

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about the way that camera works and
the way that different shots established that mood

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and that sense of drama and tension
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silky smooth segue. Now for all
you cameramen out there, the we were

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00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:19.960
talking about a little bit earlier,
drone cameramen are looking to unionize now exactly.

405
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:26.160
So they actually have just been decidedly
included in the Local six hundred section

406
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:32.799
of the IATSE union agreement. So
one reason why I guess they weren't originally

407
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:38.839
included in this agreement is that they
were getting pushed back against employers subcontracting these

408
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:44.640
these groups of drone operators. And
some personal experience on my end, I

409
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.000
was a PA on set for Black
Panther two when they were shooting it.

410
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:52.079
Also, oh yeah, it was
all overnight shoots for about a week and

411
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.119
a half in Worcester, Massachusetts.
They call it the Hollywoo since so many

412
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.640
movies are being filmed out there.
It's like a full city and it's very

413
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.640
empty, like not a lot of
people live there, so it's a perfect

414
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.559
film set. And I was stationed
a couple nights out by the drone crew.

415
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.240
It was a very ragtag group of
people. We had, you know,

416
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.279
just people from all walks of life, all different shapes and sizes and

417
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.079
personalities. It was kind of awesome. I felt like I was watching Ninja

418
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.920
Turtles do something nice. There was
also a girl named April there, so

419
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:29.000
that maybe aided my association. But
they were subcontracted out to do this shoot

420
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.599
for Marvel, and so I can
see why maybe they would be seen as

421
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:40.799
like not included if they're not totally
part of the process of Marvel's specific filmmaking.

422
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:44.279
But you do need these people who
know how to operate a drone to

423
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:47.680
make those shots happen, So it
would be pretty unfair for them to not

424
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.319
be included in those union discussions,
you know. Yeah, well, and

425
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:56.599
we went through the strikes last year
of the writer's strike and the actors strike

426
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.680
and all of that stuff, and
now everybody with all of the money going

427
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.960
through all the different streaming services and
a lot of the you know, there's

428
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:08.759
and now with the increased use of
drone footage, you're gonna have to take

429
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:15.160
care of them too. So I
definitely I'm on their side on this,

430
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.839
because if everybody else is going to
have representation to make sure that they have

431
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.160
their needs financially and healthcare needs and
all of that stuff taken care of,

432
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.039
they definitely need to be taken care
of that because they are now responsible for

433
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.240
some of the most dynamic footage you
see in film exactly, Like you're not

434
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.880
going to get a shot of the
car exploding and the motorcycle jumping in midair

435
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:38.519
and somebody grabbing the special key out
of the window all in one shot if

436
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.839
it's not on a drone. And
I'm sorry, your gimbal's really cool,

437
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.440
but it's not gonna cut it for
a lot of these shots. And you

438
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.480
know, we've we've seen stuff like
this since twenty fourteen, when I think

439
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:55.359
it was any kind of drone being
used in one of these future productions was

440
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:59.599
allowed to use American airspace. So
it's been ten full years of super cool

441
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.960
shots in Skyfall, Jurassic World,
Game of Thrones, etc. Like you

442
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.720
watch a show that's highly produced,
you've seen some drone footage. Absolutely.

443
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.480
Anyways, that was really cool conversation
about Like really, I never thought that

444
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:18.440
we could get into that cool of
a conversation about drone footage and like unionizing

445
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.000
and stuff like that, because I
mean, I get it. This is

446
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.440
more or less a legal Hollywood show, a Hollywood law show with Joe on

447
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:30.359
here. And usually the most stirring
thing that we get into is intellectual property.

448
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:32.880
So this is something where I'm like, Wow, we're actually getting into

449
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.200
some really cool stuff about Hollywood filmmaking
stuff. So thank you so much for

450
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:40.960
getting into that with your especially your
experience on set around the people who control

451
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:42.599
that stuff. That stuff's really cool. Yeah, that was super cool.

452
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.720
Anyways, we're gonna be right back. We're gonna get into some more stuff.

453
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.200
I got one more segment to go
on, Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood.

454
00:31:49.279 --> 00:32:16.240
Let's check the traffic. Joe as
Cavan, Joe Escalante live from Hollywood,

455
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.519
actually live from Burbank. And yeah, neither one of us in this

456
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.279
room right now we're Joe Escalante,
but we won't mention that very much more.

457
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.640
Joe is in Pamplona right now,
enjoying a nice night of sleep after

458
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:35.359
watching bulls go stampeding through the streets
of Pamplona. It's fantastic. So anyways,

459
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.519
I'm Sam, producer on the show, and we have assistant producer Nikki

460
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:43.559
in the room. Thank you so
much for joining us right now. By

461
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:45.000
the way, also, thank you
so much for all of you joining us

462
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:50.640
on your iHeartRadio app. Be sure
to hit us up and like us and

463
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.519
give us thumbs up on all that
stuff as well. All Right, so

464
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.519
we actually we talked about a bunch
of movies, movies we're excited about.

465
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.559
I actually saw a movie I thank
you for streaming. I saw on Netflix,

466
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.880
the new Beverly Hills cop movie,
The Eddie Murphy, the fourth of

467
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:09.400
the series. I'm guessing this is
going to be the last of them.

468
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.839
Everybody, they're super old, and
that was kind of one of the jokes

469
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.079
in the movie. But it was
really cool because it felt like watching one

470
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:22.279
of those old school eighties nineties action
films. It felt like watching one of

471
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.880
those old Beverly Hills cop movies,
and that was awesome. It was something

472
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.200
I wish I could have seen on
the big screen because of the level of

473
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.839
action that they had in the movie. But at the same time, it's

474
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.839
one of those where I was like, I sat down, I'm like,

475
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:37.720
I got nothing else to do right
now, I'm gonna sit down and chill,

476
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:42.880
watch some Netflix by myself and actually
watch a movie instead of netflixing and

477
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.880
chilling the way they usually do.
And this was It was a fun movie.

478
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.000
It wasn't necessarily a great movie,
but it was an absolute fun movie.

479
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.920
Highly recommended. I mean, yeah, you said you were really cracking

480
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:57.200
up at this one. Oh yeah. It didn't have like as many hilarious

481
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.799
moments as the original like the first
two did, but it had a couple

482
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.920
of moments that were just knock out
funny that I could not stop laughing at.

483
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.079
But it was a good story,
solid movie. Highly recommend it.

484
00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:10.519
Go and catch it. And on
that same vein of seeing movies that are

485
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.960
that feel a whole lot older than
they might be but still really hold up,

486
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:20.599
I watched another Guys, Guess what
a horror movie yet again this week.

487
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.159
I watched it on shutter It's where
I stream a lot of the just

488
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.639
horror movies. I cut all the
fat and just watch what I want.

489
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.199
It was called Triangle and it's from
two thousand and seven. It's about this

490
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:35.880
group of people who are on a
little yacht for a little vacation on the

491
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.559
water and they end up capsizing and
getting on this cruise ship that's kind of

492
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:45.559
like a Bermuda Triangle situation. And
the two thousand and seven bit I mentioned

493
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:52.519
because it has that same super exaggerated
and overexposed color grading that I feel like

494
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:54.840
a lot of movies from that period
have think maybe Twilight, but if it

495
00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:00.440
was like way too bright that I
really appreciate about filmmaking, Like it's just

496
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:06.320
super stylized and fun and also just
a really dramatic plot line. So that's

497
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.199
something that I think they could only
really do in that twenty ten period.

498
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:14.039
But loved that movie was it was
a super fun and actually very spooky watch.

499
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.079
Nice. Yes, I'm glad you
caught that one. So also you

500
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:20.800
wanted to talk about The Boys the
show? What's going on? Yeah?

501
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.760
So I only watch things where people
get beat up and die. That seems

502
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.159
to be my favorite die quality programming. Yeah. Yeah. I like to

503
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.199
pride myself on watching only really intellectual
stuff and then I watch horror movies at

504
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:36.519
home and polish reality TV at the
gym because I like to fill my brain

505
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:42.000
with crap. But one thing that
I really have been enjoying for the last

506
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.960
couple of months has been The Boys. I caught all of the previous seasons

507
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:49.639
up until like season three, I
think in the earlier months of this year,

508
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:53.280
and then I was highly anticipating this
next season. But this season is

509
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:58.119
hit or miss for a lot of
people because I think something that The Boys

510
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.840
does really really well is is.
It has really interesting plotlines for some of

511
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.760
its characters. A lot of fans
of The Boys series that streams on Amazon

512
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:13.239
Prime will remember the A Train character
having a really awesome arc surrounding his race

513
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.199
and his family in season three,
and that was a fantastic part of the

514
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:22.800
show. We kind of remember earlier
seasons being amazing commentary about the corporations of

515
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:28.800
the United States, plus the superheroes
being representations of maybe politicians and other famous

516
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:32.599
political figures. But in this season, people are starting to get a little

517
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.280
bit annoyed with getting hit on the
head over and over again about beliefs that

518
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.920
a lot of people share in terms
of equality and everybody having a good time

519
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.400
together. But it's getting a little
corny. They actually, on the most

520
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:50.960
recent episode that I just watched,
made some joke about one of the characters

521
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:55.199
that I remember reading as a tweet
in twenty twenty like two, So I

522
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.760
was like, oh, God,
are we really taking hints from Twitter?

523
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.760
There isn't our character writing now?
Yeah, people are just getting I think

524
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.840
the characters are getting written a little
bit out of character just to keep the

525
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:14.199
plot going. It's people are saying
that it's also a little bit too shock

526
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:19.239
value for what it is, and
anybody who's also fans of very bloody and

527
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.800
gory content as well as superheroes might
know the show Invincible, which that to

528
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:28.559
me is actually it's worse in terms
of it's the self shaded Gore is maybe

529
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.719
worse to me than the super VFX
stuff that you can get away with more

530
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:36.599
with animation, for sure. As
far as like Gore and all of that

531
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:38.920
stuff. It seems like as far
as like the messaging and the political points

532
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:44.000
are becoming a little bit more overt
now where before they were kind of understated

533
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.440
and maybe people weren't quite paying attention
despite the fact that everybody was telling them,

534
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.880
dude, this is what's exactly going
on, And now all of a

535
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.719
sudden, it took four seasons for
people say, wait, are they making

536
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:57.519
fun of us exactly. Yeah,
there's one character named Firecracker who is the

537
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:02.840
like USA Gal also the Bierce's Theory
show host, And I thought like,

538
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.000
oh, I didn't know that we
could get this close to doing Alex Jones

539
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.559
on TV without saying his name or
likeness, but yeah, here we are.

540
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.519
Yeah, it's just it's pretty overt. It's getting a little corny.

541
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.960
Yeah, I'm ready for them to
either wrap it up or you know,

542
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:22.440
be as nuanced as they were the
first couple of seasons. I thought it

543
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.880
was really interesting. Yeah, they
made it so that a lot of people

544
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:30.679
didn't really realize that they were being
lampooned. So if the writing continued to

545
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.039
make it like that, I could
see where a lot of people would be

546
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.840
a lot happier and some people would
be remaining in a lot of ignorant bliss.

547
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.880
Right. Also, we were taking
a look around the news as far

548
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.599
as Hollywood goes, and there was
a couple of stories that popped out.

549
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:47.920
We've been talking a lot about Diddy
and a lot of his legal troubles.

550
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:53.039
He's getting me tooed for a lot
of different, very good and valid reasons,

551
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:59.760
and amid those legal troubles, he
went whitewater rafting. I mean,

552
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:01.920
if I was getting me too,
I think the only thing that that would

553
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:07.320
call my nerves and make my legal
team feel really glad to represent me would

554
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.039
be getting on a raft and practicing
my paddling for when I eventually escape to

555
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.119
a foreign island. Yeah right,
Yeah, it seems to be doing pretty

556
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.880
well. Find a place where they
don't extradite and just you know, going

557
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.320
because they're keeping an eye on his
planes. Like there's that big thing where

558
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.159
everybody thought he was like flying out
of the country and they were tracking his

559
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.760
plane and then they realized he wasn't
even on it, and he was like

560
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.440
getting his hair done somewhere in Brooklyn
or something, and he was like,

561
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.480
what's going on everybody? And now
it's all of a sudden, this is

562
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.159
where we're at. Is now he's
whitewater rafting while everybody is like, dude,

563
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:42.599
we're canceling you. You're not allowed
to go and do whitewater rafting.

564
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:47.719
That like, should people who are
in that kind of legal situation be allowed

565
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:53.159
to go white water rafting and smile
and have fun? No, No,

566
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:59.079
I don't think so. I mean
the TMZ footage is I cannot even imagine

567
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.159
being the paparad who had to get
all the way out there with their camera

568
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:07.000
equipment to catch the five second running
of the bull, And by running of

569
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:12.800
the bull, I mean rafting of
the diddy on that lake. I wouldn't

570
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.760
want to be anybody involved. Yeah, it's one of those moments where if

571
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.960
you're the paparazzi on that one you
got to kind of like say, how

572
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.719
did I get here? Like all
of my life's decisions and everything led me

573
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.000
to this point. I can't wait
to sell this gifts worth of a length

574
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.079
of a video of someone rafting.
Yeah. Yeah, anyways, one more

575
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:36.800
thing. One of my favorite actors
of all time, Danny Trehill, got

576
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.199
into a fight on fourth of July
after he got hit by a water balloon,

577
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.800
and that's just really funny. You
don't want to piss off Machete just

578
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:47.079
saying that's one guy you do not
want to be on the wrong side.

579
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:52.920
Yeah, it's only a response to
press regarding that incident was I hate bullies,

580
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:57.800
So it seems like he was trying
to be someone standing up for justice

581
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:05.000
in the face of inequality in bullying
water balloons. Right. Yeah, anyways,

582
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.760
thank you so much Nikki for joining
us. It was a lot of

583
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.960
fun. We're going to be right
back after this big break. Make sure

584
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.840
that if you want to catch any
more of the show, hit up our

585
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:22.039
iHeartRadio app page Live from Hollywood with
Joe Escalante And by the way, Joe

586
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.679
will join us again next weekend from
Pamplona, Spain again, so that'll be

587
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:29.159
fun. We'll hear mar Yeah,
I can't wait to hear how many people

588
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:30.360
got trampled during the week.

