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Well, good Monday or Tuesday morning
here everyone on the Mark houts Happy fourth

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of July if you are in the
United States, celebrating that Happy Canada Day,

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a long weekend if you are friends
up north. That interesting interesting that

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week here. I had a lot
of trash shock has been said here.

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I did not skip Bayliss. I'm
very close to skip Bayless. My hat

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into the trash last night, but
I still have it on today here after

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a little bit of an interesting game
here, I don't know if it lived

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up to what we expected, but
it certainly lived up to something. Nonetheless,

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Jason and Evans standing by, We'll
bring them on. I'll kind of

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preview the show here. We'll get
in everything. Jason, you know a

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lot of smack talk for me at
least, you know your lack of a

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quarterback and struggling games, and you
know Evan's kind of a BC Lions fan

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with me. We're eating a little
bit of humble pie today. How are

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you doing, Jason? I'm doing
great right. How are you? I'm

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sharing evan welfare check? How do
you feel today? I feel good.

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Wasn't here last week, but excited
to talk about the three games. It's

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a bit of a lesser slat because
I'm Calgary. Hamilton's sketch went all to

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buy obviously, but yeah, it
should be good. It should be good.

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Yeah, BC fans a little bit
of you know, just made the

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day. But we'll get into that. I don't know if this guy has

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followed anything else. I decide everything
up, We'll do BC and then the

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Winnipeg game. And then I was
saying before we got on here, Ottawa

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feels like a lifetime ago. I
do have this article Jim Mullen share in

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front of the show. We were
going back and forth last night about our

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BC Lions woes and then Mariners with
a thrilling six six to what was it

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six to five win here in the
ninth any But there's three down Nation article

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eight ways you feel like cfl is
leadership is failing the fans. So I

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think we'll get into that in the
end of the show, because you know,

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normally we get like four games for
the hour. We have the three

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this week. But I didn't want
to say and I echoed this sentiment,

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and I saw a lot of people
echoing this. Rashmadani friend of the show

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here, I was sitting there Thursday
of the long weekend, no CFL games.

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I was sitting there Sunday of the
long weekend, no CFL games,

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Jason, this, okay, we
have a three team buy it's a long

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week, Like, what do you
make of this? And because like there

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was nothing else going on this weekend. I mean, I know there's like

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regional baseball and stuff. Yeah,
I just don't agree with how they scheduled

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this week. Maybe it was due
to something like the stadium ability at availability

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at a female field, but at
the end of the day, I'm pretty

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sure this games should have been on
the Sunday honestly, because you know,

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when you only have three games on
that week, it doesn't really make too

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much sense. Thank goodness, we
didn't have a Thursday game this week because

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it would have been stretched even more
thin. And then it was just kind

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of a disjointed week with the whole
rain delay on Saturday as well. So

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I mean, it was just weird
week for the CFL schedule. Yeah,

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it was weird. I went back
and watched and we'll get into it.

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I had some notes on kind of
the delay, but I went it was

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my birthday on Saturday, and I
went back. It feels like that game

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existed in the vacuum. I sign
nothing about it. I'm like, oh,

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okay, there was like a rain
delay. Okay, Winnipeg, you

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know, beat the snot out of
the Alouettes. Okay. And I went

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back and watched and there they had
they preempted it, and there was kind

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of all that stuff. Evan,
did you I know, like we're sitting

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here, we're in our best life
Monday. You know, we I have

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to work today. I have a
wedding today. But you know, a

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lot of people are off today.
But that's not necessarily the case for these

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Canadian viewers here for the long weekend. Yeah, I mean it was definitely

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a weird slate and the weather delay
didn't help things. Um. Yeah,

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I thought it was very a bit
too spread out. Obviously, again,

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given you know, the long weekend, I feel like you should have just

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had Friday, Saturday, Sunday done, or even like a doubleheader or something

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on Canada Day, maybe on Saturday. I don't know if that's just a

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thought, but yeah, I'm sure
it looks like it's going to return to

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normal in week five because there's you're
back to a four game slate. So

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yeah, and if you're listening to
this, it's just a rashmanniss. Why

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have a Canadian professional football game up
against nothing else on the sports calendar on

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the Sunday of a long weekend,
the beginning of the new beginnings. The

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other thing I just wanted to know, and I don't need to play this,

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but shout out. I thought Rod
on his show Friday did a good

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job friend of the show talking just
about a lot of the grassroots stuff that

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Rod and if he feels like the
CFL used to do and kind of failing

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to do now where he's sitting there, He's like, we have three teams

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on the bye week, it's the
Friday of a long weekend. No one's

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calling me to come on the show, no one's calling to promote anything,

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and just you know, why is
that happening? Just kind of the state

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of the CFL here. So I
just thought that was interesting, but it

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really echoed to me. And we'll
get into this year maybe later in the

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show with kind of the leadership and
everything that, you know, maybe CFL

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fans are a little whatever disenfranchise right
now. Jason, overall, for the

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three games, what did you make
just kind of you know, top level

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of you here. I think it
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I just didn't think I was that, you know, the Friday game

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was pretty rough, the Saturday game
was pretty rough once it got going after

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the rain delay. And then the
Monday game it started off very good,

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but then I mean, unfortunately Toronto
kind of just took away with it when

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it ran away within the second half. That is, yeah, Evan,

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Yeah, kind of your very thousand
foot view here looking down. Yeah,

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I mean, you know, it
was the Toronto BC game was obviously the

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best, but even that one got
out of hand really quickly, and you

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know, really wasn't entertaining after probably
second quarter, you could argue. So,

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yeah, I don't know, just
a pretty boring slate. I guess

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you would say this week nothing,
nothing too exciting. I guess we'll get

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in here, we'll start with kind
of the marquee one and we'll kind of

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move excuse me, move our way
back here. You know, VC Lions

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big hype tier the Monday night.
For the record, and I posted this

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in the chain. I don't count
the Argos and the Argos having the week

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one buy, I don't count them
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VC Lions. We kept having a
snatchup of like, you know, the

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two undefeated teams. VC Lions played
three games. Argos are on the bye

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week next week as well, So
I just I, you know, play

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the same number of games. Call
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out of line in that I think
that the Argos need to prove something else

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here before they're the true champions of
the undefeated. Yeah, I agree with

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that, because, yeah, like
you said, they have that weird thing

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going on with the two buys in
the first half of the season. Actually,

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I believe someone said to me that
they have three buys in the first

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half of the season and then they
played like ten games in a row to

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end the year. But yeah,
just a weird situation going on with the

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Argo schedule and h yeah, I
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a true undefeated team so far,
even though they look like the best team

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in the league at this one of
the season. Yeah, if you wanted

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to know. Mike Mitchell, he
left his notes. He said, show

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notes, our guys are the bass
Hamilton better than that leads to Ottawa and

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Edmonton. The next few weeks so
that is your you know, Mike's I

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think doing the parade today. I
think Mike's very excited about that. Evan.

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In terms of expectations going into this
game, I think they were high.

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I guess I think we have a
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don't know if they met the expectations
necessarily. What were you looking forward to

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in this game? Just a close
game, honestly. I mean, these

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are two very high powered teams on
both sides of the bolt. That's obviously

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what makes a football game, you
know good. You could even argue bringing

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special teams too, obviously an important
factor, but especially you know, offense

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defense. It was just a very
you know, very highly talented matchup,

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I guess you would say, And
it left up to the hype probably,

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you know, in the first quarter
it was tied at one point, you

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know, kind of a back and
forth. It was like seven seven and

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fourteen fourteen, But then Vernon through
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more than he should have, and
Toronto just kind of pulled away. We'll

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get into more of that and what
I think about that performance specifically later,

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but overall, in terms of the
matchup, I just think, you know,

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it was. I was really expecting
BC to win, even though the

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game was in Toronto, and it
did look like that was, you know,

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plausible for a while, even when
you know, Vernon was still kind

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of turning the ball over like in
the first half, I was like,

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okay, like they can still kind
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by the third quarter, you know, all hope was lost. So yeah,

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this is yeah, Jason, go
for it. I was gonna say

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it's a kind of a misleading story
score line because I thought that the defenses

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actually did play very well in this
one. It's just a bunch of turnovers

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caused the score to be and a
big special teams touchdown, but the artist

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caused the score to be a lot
higher than I was expecting. Well,

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that was the thing. It felt
like in the beginning that Toronto couldn't score

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on offense at all. It felt
like that either BC they came down,

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they scored early in Toronto, we
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had the big the punt return,
and then it really felt like kind of

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that was that it kind of been
raveled from there. I guess my big

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question, we'll go to both you
guys, we can go to Evan.

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First, Vernon Adams here six interceptions
in the game, I tweeted, I've

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watched twenty four weeks in XFL and
USML football. I've never seen the quarterback

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and throw six interceptions. I guess
the CFL record is seven. I think

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Matt Dunnigan did as well as Jim
Mohan told me a couple others. Evan,

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did did Vernon Adams lose this game? Or did they trying to argue

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that to win this game? Yeah, that's a great question. I have

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to lean towards Vernon Adams lost,
unfortunately, because I still feel like without

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the turnovers, BC would have won
or at least made it extremely close.

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Just again, given what went on
in the first quarter before you know,

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the turnovers really started coming out.
But yeah, I've put in my notes

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I said this was a very Jamis
Winston esque performance. And I mean that

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in kind of a good in a
bad way, because if you look past

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the interceptions, if you take away
that six interception number, Vernon Adams had

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three hundred eighty eight yards and three
touchdowns. You know, he was nearly

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averaging ten yards an attempt, you
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there. So yeah, if you
take away the turnovers, I mean,

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he should have easily won this game. But when you you know, when

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you're giving the ball away six times
to the other team, especially three you

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going to the same player Robertson Daniel
um gets, it gets pretty tough to

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win. And clearly, you know, I mean you just look at the

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score and that's all you really need
to know. And again, yeah,

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it's a bit misleading on some fronts, but you know, it's it's just

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a shame because Vernon in this game, I feel like had so many good

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plays on offense that got overlooked because
he was given the paul to the defense,

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you know, so many times.
Jason, same question, do you

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so? I what was the question? Did Vernon Adams lose this game?

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And then they're trying to argue that
to win this game? Okay? Yeah,

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sorry, um yeah, I do
believe that Vernon lost this game for

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them. I think, especially when
you looked at late in the fourth quarter,

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it looked like they had a lot
of momentum pards a comeback when they

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were down by um I think they
were down by seventeen points at one point,

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and then they cut it did eleven
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in there, and that one big
interception that I don't know what Vernon was

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seeing on that play. I think
that was the absolute killer, because I

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really do think they had the chance
to come back in this game. So

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I think there are some of these
picks that weren't his fault, and then

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some of them were obviously his fault. But I mean, when you throw

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six interceptions, it's kind of unacceptable. Kind of reminded me of a game

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that Peyton Manning had years ago when
he played against the Chargers, and I

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think he too, like five interceptions, but also through four touchdowns and was

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just kept on coming and almost won
the game anyway. But anyway, yeah,

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Vernon I think lost the game for
the Lions overall. It was hard.

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It was before that I had my
tweet ready, before I was about

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to turn my hat in the trash
when they were down eleven points going there

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at the end and five interceptions and
if the game had ended or you know,

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the argus had round at the clock. Turning the ball over five times

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and only losing by eleven points is
pretty remarkable, I think if you if

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you really look at it. But
to me, it felt like I when

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I was in college. I was
a little bit of a casino and I

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we had a casino by our college
we could go because it was an Indian

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casino. I would go a lot, and it's kind of one of those

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things where you start losing and then
you're going, like you throw more good

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money after bad, right, and
you really need to know to walk away.

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And it felt like Vernon just kind
of spiral there and it was just

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he was so lost even he had
I think he had a big completion that

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can Hatcher near the end of so
I'm like that was still in triple coverage,

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Like I'm glad Kean is in the
phenomenal athlete that could catch the ball,

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Like I don't know if that was
still a great throw or decision to

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make. It just felt like he
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the sidelines, Evan, they're you
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out in here, even just to
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end. Yes, Yes, I
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that up because it just seemed it
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even if there's only you know,
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or even maybe halfway through the fourth
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and doesn't turn over the ball,
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you know, completing as many passes, that's kind of what you want

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at that point in the game.
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you know, manage keep the deficit, you know, close, so you

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can at least try and get back
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you know, there was a time
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had thrown five and then you look
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it's like, well, they all
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he had a great performance. So
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think Dane Evans should have come in
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but you know, I'm sure there
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come in. Yeah, I had
the tweet here, I guess just share

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this So I'm talking about the argos
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the buy. They started the season
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buy? So pointing out in terms
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kind of getting the Nathan work rub
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Now we're talking about this guy all
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great for the Argos. I think
it was like twelve and change, which

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I would hope you would want a
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long weekend and all that. What
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think he started slow, like you
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big missed opportunity for BC in this
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moving the ball really well in the
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going, but a couple of big
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really tough guy to bring down in
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he definitely has the potential to kind
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that kind of a season this year. Maybe not in terms of the sheer

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numbers of it, but I think
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I think Chad Kelly is really showing
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season, or why so many people
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Evan thoughts on Chad's performance, Yeah, had in my notes here I literally

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said, Chad Kelly has no issues
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Gray Cup win because there was a
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you know, pulled off the victory. It was a thriller, it was

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great, great story. You know, that's what you want to see.

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But the reality is then MBT leaves
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replace him for a full season and
possibly many more seasons to come. Looks

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like Chad is going to be the
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years, assuming everything goes to plan. He doesn't get picked up by the

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NFL, doesn't get injured, whatever, But he's ready every week. He

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just I mean, he so far. Like you know, we had that

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discussion. I think it was two
weeks ago. You know, it's Chad

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Kelly the best or most important player
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could really make the argument that he
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know, maybe this is recency biased. Not every team played this week,

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you know, you had three on
a bye, But still I think Chad

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Kelly being the quarterback of the Toronto
Organauts is I mean, that's a difference

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maker. Like they really could go
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know we had talked about this matchup
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for one, we're in Hamilton.
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story short there. Yeah, I
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on this trajectory, that team is
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just you know, we've talked about
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on, and they didn't. I
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half I saw against you know,
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the Argos are so good and the
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Aliolette. And I know we've been
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fourteen for seventy, but he was
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and I'm kind of afraid of if
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time, I don't know if BC
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well. Right, it felt like
BC when he was in there was kind

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of churning in and doing not as
a standout performances last week where you kind

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of have the hat trick of touchdowns. But Jason, what did you make

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of that? Aj? And they
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on the sidelines to some injury bugs, especially AJ here because I knew we

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had such a good week lass week. Yeah, I think aj Aletta has

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looked excellent to begin the air,
so I think that having him healthy going

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forward is such an important thing for
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I think Andrew Harris came in got
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the same when he came in.
I definitely agree with you there read.

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I think that Olette just brings a
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think that Andrew Harris doesn't provide at
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think that he's kind of the key
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forward and what we've seen so far
this season, haven't you anything else they

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adds on Ajum, I would just
say that, you know, I kind

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of thought Andrew Harris would be the
top rusher on this team. I understand

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that he's old, but I still
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a bit more juice. But so
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I mean, in this game,
he had what three carries for nine

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yards, and he hasn't really done
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I think he's had maybe a touchdown
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guy clearly, and they don't have
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he's he's been rolling so far.
He's one of these players that's um

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sort of on the come up.
And there's a couple of guys like that.

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We'll talk about later with some other
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to talk about. But yeah,
I agree he's been great so far this

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season. A couple other notes where
I had I don't I'm not the biggest

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Glenn Suitor guy. I know,
kind of hit or missign here he was

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really worshiping Jack Kelly and he's he's
he's not following the rules, like he's

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breaking the rules, like he's just
tune whatever. And then there was like

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a weird scrum at the end where
they had really delayed the game about you

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get two three minutes while they were
kind of it was like the police officer

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kind of ticketing everyone and he's like
this, that's not tough, Like you

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need to be tough in the game, like this, this isn't the way

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to be. Don Jason, Am
I the only one that is add on

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Glenn. It was really when I
turned on the game, like, oh

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my god, we got Marshall Ferguson
and Glenn Suitor here. I'm like,

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this is really good. I don't
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I thought they were very obnoxious.
Honestly, yesterday, I think that

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one of the big things with Glenn
Suitor is he like and I'm all for

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like talking up the Canadians in the
league, but he goes out of his

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way to mention it like every two
minutes, and I think that that kind

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of drives me crazy. Same with
Marshall. Really, I think that,

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I mean, it's good to mention
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but I think just the frequency in
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the Kelly thing, but yeah, definitely

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the Canadian thing is something I noticed
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and you had you had Jim Kelly
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uncle there. And I've said before, I'm here in the alternate world where

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the USFL pays up to get Chad
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the football landscape. I think it's
very different right now. I mean

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clearly for the Canadian Football League as
well. But so they kept talking about

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Jim Kelly and the Buffalo Bills and
like it's like it's okay to you can

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like both of NFL and the CFL, Like it's okay, it's okay.

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I'm like Glenn, like you're like
the last person that is like ever or

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should be, Like it's okay to
like he is sech a pro Canadian and

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it's great pro Canadian, pro SAFL
anybody, what's okay, Like if you

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want to watch the NFL, like
that's okay as well. I just thought

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it's kind of one of those things
where you're like, hey, I'm okay

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if you do that, Like that's
why if you if you keep saying it

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so much, it's almost like you're
not a heare with it, evan,

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not if you have anything to add, but any thoughts on Gland or anything

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else, not really. I mean
I don't pick up on this, you

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know, commentator stuff as much as
other people do. I will say there

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definitely is a push for the whole
pro Canadian thing, and I think that's

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great, right, But with all
sort of commentators, that's you can only

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bring up something to a certain extent. And this happened in the XFL,

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you know, when they talked about
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There was a lot of repetition.
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if you're bringing up the same thing
so many times, it just gets boring

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and then you're just sitting there like
all right, man, like let's calm

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down a bit. You know,
like you've got other things going on in

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this game, like maybe talk about
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and you know how that affects the
flow. I don't know. Yeah,

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yeah, Glenn's also yeah the one
like I said, it's okay to

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watch this, but I'm gonna poop
poo on the XFL or any other American

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leagues and stuff on there. We'll
get out, we'll move on to the

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next game. I just had comments
here at Denzel checking in poor BC Lions

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yesterday. You know, uncle Denzel
is a big fan of the CFL out

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here Andrew Murray, good morning,
Happy Independence Day, Marsin. Hey,

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I enjoyed the game yesterday, James
Henderson checking in. I was very surprised

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by the Lions. I guess they're
time with the top last of the week.

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I don't know about that. I
guess we'll do that before we get

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out here. Gary says Evan agree
with you can never comes six interceptions,

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you even really close to fourth quarters
a testament to that. And then Andrew

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says a worse chasing painting through six
interceptions and just two dds, but lost

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because there was a missfield goal to
win. That my team never makes it

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easy. So I guess before we
move on to the next game and we'll

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go Jason and Evan. Cause for
concern here with the Lions or is this

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just like a freak performance by Vernon. I just think that you're going to

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get these games from Vernon from time
to time. I mean, just that's

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the natural course of his career.
He's going to have some very good games

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and some very bad games, and
I think he was just due for one

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against a very good Toronto defense here. I picked the Argos to win on

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my channel, so I'm not overly
concerned with the Lions. They moved the

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ball very well in this game against
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it just cut out the turnovers.
I think they'll be okay. Evan,

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same question to you, Yeah,
I mean again you take away that turnover

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Callum. I think everything else was
about the same. You know, receiving

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corpse still looked great, especially with
Kean Hatcher coming back into the lineup.

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You had, you know, big
play to Justin mckinnis, a lot of

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great takeaways. Matthew bets On defense
had two sacks, so you know they're

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still on the right trajectory again,
it's as long as you, yeah,

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don't throw the ball to the other
teams six times, like you're gonna be

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just fine, Like you know,
there's no problem there, all right.

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So moving on here we have the
Winnipeg Manchildwitz games. Like I said,

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so this is my birthday, I
come back. I got this all recorded

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on my food bo to watch weird
weather delay Jason? How long was this?

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Because I kind of ended up fast
forward and through the PAMO because it

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came on and they're talking and it
didn't seem like they really acknowledged it first.

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How long if a rain delay was
this? So it was supposed to

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kick off at seven pm Eastern time
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time I believe, So yeah,
an hour and forty minute rain delay huge,

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So that ended up pushing it for
it was interesting, so they it

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was on the CBS Sports Network.
I hadn't recorded, and then they ended

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up pre emptying it with like the
Portland NWSL whatever soccer match. So I

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went on the CBS Sports Network.
Unless you haven't recorded, there's no on

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demand on there, which is kind
of frustrating for me because I know the

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CFL Plus games don't have that right
if you're watching them on your browser,

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but I would hope that the CBS
Sports Network could put those on you on

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demand on that I did have my
notes here. I'm sad that they really

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made Marshall work all weekend. Like
I think he's the low man on the

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toe of the Paul. I'm glad
he had to wait through the weight in

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the rain toilay there to kind of
call the game. Are we fans of

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the Red Outlets jerseys this season?
I'll go Jason and Evan. Yeah.

410
00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.559
I love them actually because I think
they I think they stand out compared to

411
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.680
the other jerseys that we see in
the league. I think that, yes,

412
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.519
Calgary has red jerseys, but I
think they're different enough from them that

413
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:27.480
they're a pretty good jersey in my
opinion. Is it like a throwback or

414
00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.240
is it the homage? Like what
is the story behind this? Jason,

415
00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:36.599
Well, I'm not too sure about
the story behind it or anything like that.

416
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:38.640
But I mean, they've always had
red as part of their color scheme,

417
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.480
but they never made that their primary
color. So I think it was

418
00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:47.880
just a natural thing that teams do. They kind of switch around the primary

419
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.559
color of their jerseys. So I
think that's what they're going for here.

420
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.920
Yeah, I knew altern jersey,
Evan, any thoughts on the jersey seven?

421
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.559
That's probably I said you for you, I mean a bit, But

422
00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:02.880
like I still liked and I honestly
like a lot of the jerseys of the

423
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.519
CFL this season. I know,
BC sort of has like the gray,

424
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:08.440
you know, in the black.
I love that with the orange, like

425
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:12.519
the ones they wore in Toronto last
night. Those are probably my favorite.

426
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:15.759
And then Toronto's jerseys too, you
know, they're new ones that they unveiled.

427
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:21.200
I love those. So you've got
a nice kind of collection here in

428
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.720
twenty twenty three. Yeah, it's
such a it's such an easy thing to

429
00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:26.519
do to kind of like get be
a popular fan base a little bit there.

430
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.799
Anyway, so long rain delay,
we come in. It was interesting,

431
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.640
you know, like I said,
I'm watching the first half of this

432
00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.160
game. Montreal was keeping it close, you know, and they're going into

433
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.160
the half, okay, they're down
ten zero, and then then I finally

434
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:41.519
flip on because I knew they lost
the game, but I flip on and

435
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.440
you know, one field goal here
at the end. Jason, what was

436
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.720
the storyline of this game for you, because it felt at least close as

437
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:51.759
from what I was watching that the
Montreal was at least playing decently in the

438
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:55.799
first half. Well, to me, this was a throwback game for the

439
00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:59.119
Winnipeg Blue Bombers. You know,
when they first started be being this really

440
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:03.079
good team. They started being this
team that could win with physicality, the

441
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:06.759
running game, their defense shutting teams
down, and that's exactly what they did

442
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.359
in this one. Winnipeg's offense,
passing offense specifically, could not get much

443
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:14.519
going in this one. Besides,
maybe Dalton Shane had a pretty good game

444
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:17.680
in this one. But I think
that they won this game with their defense.

445
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:21.160
Willie Jefferson showed up had a couple
of sacks in this one. That

446
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:23.559
was good to see from a guy
that had a pretty down year in terms

447
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:27.039
of production last year. So I
think they won with the running game.

448
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:33.519
Brady Olivera ran the ball very well
once again despite having that reported injury.

449
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.000
So I think this was just a
throwback win for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers and

450
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.000
they didn't allow the Alouettes to get
anything going. Evan thoughts on this one,

451
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.839
Yeah, I would say, you
know, great bounce back defensively for

452
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.880
Winnipeg after they gave up thirty points
to BC the previous week. I think

453
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.720
they really needed that as a confidence
boost. And then yeah, what else

454
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.759
do I have here? Yeah,
Jason touched on a lot of the points,

455
00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.599
especially with Brady Olivera. I think
it was a slower Dave m zac

456
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.599
Colaros in the passing game, but
you know, Olivera stepped up and that's

457
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.039
sort of good I think for you
know, long term success and health if

458
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.480
you can kind of rely on the
ground game more and kind of give Colaros

459
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:14.079
some you know, time off or
time to rest of them. He still

460
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:18.880
had two touchdown passes, but you
know, I think like they were throwing

461
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.440
the ball a lot early in the
season. I mean it was just you

462
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.279
know, left, right and center
all over the field. But now that

463
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.759
you have kind of Brady Olivera with
an expanded role again, Yeah, even

464
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.960
with you know, the whatever injury
he had that was reported, didn't seem

465
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.839
like it bothered him with one hundred
and twenty yards, So that was good

466
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:38.559
to see. And then on defense, there's a guy Abu Dharmley Sware,

467
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.680
the quarterback. He was tied for
the team leading tackles with Alden Darby,

468
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.480
I believe, and I just wanted
to point him out as someone who I'd

469
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:49.839
like to see more of down the
stretch. Very unique story from him.

470
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:55.039
Played with the Potsdam Royals and the
German League and then eventually went over to

471
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.599
a rookie minicamp with the Cincinnati Bengals
last year. I think, so definitely

472
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.680
someone that I think could have an
expanded role with Winnipeg, and this was

473
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:06.599
kind of the first time to me
that he really stood out, so I

474
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.759
just wanted to point that out as
well. Yeah, the Olivera thing is,

475
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.079
you know, I mean we obviously
saw Andrew Harris there for years,

476
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.920
and Olivera was kind of always at
number two, really coming in here really

477
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.720
on his own. Jason, how
impressed are you with Brady here throughout was

478
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:23.720
it four weeks of the season.
Yeah, I'm just incredibly impressed with him

479
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.400
because I think going into the season
he's a guy that I wasn't super high

480
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:32.000
on his upside. I didn't think
he was that great last year despite having

481
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.559
a thousand rushing yards. I think
just his usage was really high. But

482
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.319
I think this year he's really established
himself as one of the better running backs

483
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.720
in the league. I could catch
the ball to the backfield as incredibly well

484
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.480
rounded player, can run inside the
tackles, outside the tackles. So I

485
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.640
think he's just a great running back
that they covered in that offense and as

486
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.920
a key part of that team going
forward. He did have right, I

487
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.519
had to know the mind. He
had one fumble, which I thought was

488
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.319
like, that's pretty rare. I
don't see. I don't view him very

489
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:02.279
much as a as a fumbling guy. Jason, do I have that note

490
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:06.799
correct? Honestly, I actually missed
the first part of this game, so

491
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.519
maybe I missed the fumble. Yeah, it's weird because I wouldn't it show

492
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.559
it on the stat line here.
But anyway, yeah, I have my

493
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:18.039
note for that. Austin Matc had
a really weird OPI call. I thought.

494
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:19.599
I thought some of the calls in
the first half were weird that way.

495
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:22.799
I did have a funny thing too, just talking about Winnipeg defense.

496
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:29.359
This Willie Jefferson coming in. They
had it was like a face mask and

497
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.440
it like turned his helmet sideways and
he was like completely blind and still just

498
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.240
still just going out, And I
thought he was good. Evan we talked

499
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.279
about kind of the bounce back Winnipeg
defense. Good to see anything else I

500
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.039
known on that, Um, not
really. I mean I feel like it

501
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:51.759
was just a very collaborative effort.
I think Ricky Walker on the Blue Bombers

502
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.440
had a nice game with a sack
and three tackles for loss. But other

503
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:56.759
than that, yeah, just a
very collective effort. And you know,

504
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.599
holding a team to three points,
you know, no touch downs. That's

505
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.799
an accomplishment in any game, and
I know that's sort of not necessarily a

506
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.440
standard for Winnipeg, but you know, I think there were a lot of

507
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.599
questions after their loss to BC last
week, and you know, this might

508
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:12.279
have not answered all of them,
but you have to keep in mind,

509
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.440
you know, the weather delay I
think affected performance for both teams, so

510
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.039
it might not have been perfect.
But I liked the law of what I

511
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.200
saw from that. Yeah, I
have. Yeah, Austin Mack had the

512
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.480
weird OPI call, and then there
was another call like they had a defensive

513
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.680
on Montreal and then they came back
and they had an offensive because very hard.

514
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.160
I don't I watched football now,
and I'm certainly no expert on this.

515
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.839
I don't know how you're supposed to
defend balls, and I certainly don't

516
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:38.680
know it that. It was just
a really long one with Austin Mack two.

517
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.079
They were kind of took it out. It felt like they were kind

518
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:45.599
of beating themselves. Oh and then
Drew Wala Tarski here on his first TD

519
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.599
really getting almost like shoved out of
the stadium. I felt very dangerous.

520
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.920
They're kind of getting shoved by the
defender. Jason, you have any other

521
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:57.119
thoughts on the game itself? We
can talk Montreal and Winnipeg here kind of

522
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.480
like future looking, but anything else
on this game, No. I just

523
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.640
think it was a very workman like
performance from the Bombers. They just went

524
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.920
in, had to bounce back,
and they got the job done. Wasn't

525
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.119
pretty, but I think yeah,
like you said, I think the rain

526
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.759
delay kind of took a lot of
steam out of this game, and I

527
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.400
think, as someone watching it kind
of took a little bit of excitement out

528
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.480
of the game as well. So
yeah, I definitely agree with you there,

529
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.519
Evan. Anything else, how do
you feel here? I guess how

530
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.519
do we feel about Montreal moving forward? Because I would like to have the

531
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.279
East be at least somewhat competitive this
year, and I don't know if the

532
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.440
Red Blacks are going to do that, and Hamilton's kind of jury is still

533
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:37.119
out. How do you feel about
Montreal moving forward? Yes, so despite

534
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.559
them only putting up three points in
this game, I still am a firm

535
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:45.440
believer in the whatever we're calling it
stays on to Cody Fajardo, and I

536
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:49.119
do think the Alouettes they could be
a dark horse Grade Cup contender. I

537
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.480
dare I say that too early,
but I think again, just given you

538
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.519
know where the East is at right
now, I really think that they could

539
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.720
slot in behind Toronto and then just
a couple players on the Allouette side that

540
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.880
I want to talk about, um
kayon Julian Grant, um I know,

541
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:08.000
is someone that we've talked about in
the past. You know, I spoke

542
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.319
about his potential before, but he's
already living up to the hype here,

543
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.839
you know, a month into the
season, and it's really good to see

544
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.000
that. I think he was drafted
in twenty nineteen, so he's someone I've

545
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.039
had my eye on, you know, the whole year, and to see

546
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.359
what he did in this game,
you know, makes me sort of,

547
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.279
I guess, reassure my you know
feelings about him. He's a phenomenal player

548
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.039
with phenomenal upside, and the same
goes for Austin Mack. I know we've

549
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:36.839
talked about him too at several points
on the show this season, but you

550
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.279
know, I really think he could
be, you know, sort of the

551
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:43.359
next great you know, CFL receiver
with multiple All Star appearances. You could

552
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.039
be putting him in the top five, you know, maybe by next season.

553
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.599
And I don't want to speak too
early, right I understand we're a

554
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.839
month into you know, however long
the season is, eighteen or I guess

555
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.759
twenty one weeks eighteen games in the
regular season, and you know, you

556
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:59.440
can never speak too soon, but
I mean, so far, you know,

557
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.839
he has the NFL pedigree, he
has sort of the I don't know,

558
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:06.440
just big playability. He's got really
everything you could ask for. I'm

559
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.160
definitely gonna study his game more,
go back, you know, over some

560
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:13.039
of the tape. But my kind
of final thought here, at least from

561
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.920
the offensive side in Montreal, which
is what I really wanted to touch on

562
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:22.319
today, is um KJG and Mac. That's like, it looks like Montreal

563
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.599
has just found the perfect replacement for
Gina Lewis and you know, Jake Winnicky,

564
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.359
which was a big question going into
this season. So I think it's

565
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.200
it's really good to sort of see
that, and especially in that Winnipeg game.

566
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.680
Again, I know they didn't score, I know it was kind of

567
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.839
a weird night with the weather delay, but a lot of positive takeaways there.

568
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.880
Really if you're Montreal still hopefully the
background no this year, I'm meaning

569
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.119
myself off. My neighbor has decided
the mother their line at nine thirty three

570
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.559
on the holiday holiday tis Days,
So you know you can't you can't beat

571
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.559
it on that, Jason. And
then we have a couple of comments.

572
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.319
We'll get to the last game and
then we'll do the list here. But

573
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:58.960
any like how we feel in Montreal
moving forward, because I think Winnipeg it

574
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:00.599
is what they thought they got whooped. I mean you can comment on that

575
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.799
too. What do you make of
these teams move for? What did we

576
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.720
learn here? Well, I think, to echo Evans point, I think

577
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.199
it's very very good signed for Montreal
that the receivers have stepped up filled those

578
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:16.039
roles that were vacant on paper to
be going into this season. So I

579
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:20.840
think that's huge for the Alouettes.
One thing with Cody Fajardo, and why

580
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.360
I'm a little bit hesitant to say
I'm all in with him, is he's

581
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:27.760
still taking a lot of sacks.
He holds the ball, holds the ball

582
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:30.760
too long, in my opinion.
He had a really brutal red zone interception

583
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.000
when they were trying to come back
in the game and they had a chance

584
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:38.039
to and I think William Standback also
had a big fumble as well. So

585
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.639
a couple of turnovers really hurt the
Alouettes down the stretch in this one.

586
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.400
But I think overall it's still a
strong start to the season for them,

587
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.519
but I think we just need to
see a few more weeks of data from

588
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.559
them. We have a couple of
comments here Scott's checking in late Argos our

589
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:57.920
American's CFL team. I don't even
know if the Argos are a candidacy.

590
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.599
I would start Jodi and Viga Argos
fan check and argos it is fun to

591
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.639
watch. And then we have a
comment here at Shaking Now the CFL doesn't

592
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.679
market Austin Mack to the big do
Oio State University fan base. I don't.

593
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.280
We've had conversations for years on here
where like, do these leagues need

594
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.119
to market more than the colleges and
the people go to Like, I don't

595
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:21.159
know how much that does if you're
a CFL fan, or like if I'm

596
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.400
an American Ohio State fan, like, oh, I'm gonna go watch I

597
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.440
don't know. It's kind of the
global draft to me, like, oh,

598
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.880
we got a kicker from Norway.
If I live in Norway, I'm

599
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.000
gonna watch the CFL. Jayson,
do you have any thoughts on that,

600
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.519
like the marketing of the CFL,
Like, let's really tap into like the

601
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.920
American college just in in terms of
marketing. Well, I don't know how

602
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.280
much it had moved the needle in
terms of getting additional fans to watch the

603
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.440
league. But it definitely can't hurt
to put up more information specifically about the

604
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:47.760
American players that are coming into the
league because a lot of people just don't

605
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.280
know that these guys played at major
major university. So yeah, I definitely

606
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.639
don't think it hurts, but I
don't think I'm skeptical about how much big

607
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.719
of an impact that could make.
And then we have this is breaking news,

608
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.039
Elks trade Kevin Francis to the Red
Black for twenty forty four fourth round

609
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.599
pick according to the three Damn Nation. I don't know if that's they just

610
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:09.440
got a commed that I'm here.
I don't know if that's breaking news.

611
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:14.559
Talking the Elks on here at this
game feels a little bit like a fever

612
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:19.440
dream to me. Back last Friday
on here we had Edmonton the Battle of

613
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.960
the you know, Ottawa was the
second longest not winning at home streak on

614
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:28.159
here, Evan Ottawa finally puts it
away twenty six to seven. We'll get

615
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.360
into the Jareddegies of it all,
But what did you make thoughts on the

616
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:35.400
Red Blacks finally getting the home victory? Yeah, well that's what's kind of

617
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.199
funny here is you know, the
Red Blacks get their you know, first

618
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:43.079
home victory and x many games over
the team that still hasn't won at home

619
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.800
and even more games. So that
was a bit. Uh, you know,

620
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.639
it's happy and sad at the same
time, right, I'm sure it's

621
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.840
definitely happy if you're an Ottawa fan
and you were at that game. Um,

622
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.920
but yeah, you know, this
game, to be honest, really

623
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:00.719
don't have any takeaways from it,
especially not many on the Edmonton and side.

624
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.599
We'll get into that later with the
Jared Dougie or I hope I'm saying

625
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.719
this last name right, it's Daggy, right, I think Max, Yeah,

626
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.480
I bet I better not screw that
up. I think I've called him

627
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.639
four different names at this point.
But anyway, Uh yeah, So for

628
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.760
Ottawa, UM, the one player
I really want to talk about is Demontre

629
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:21.920
Tuggle of the running back. UM. I think it was interesting. You

630
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.800
know, yeah, he had seventeen
carries for one hundred and twenty six yards.

631
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:30.960
But the more interesting storyline I think
is that he's another Ohio player sort

632
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.719
of slowly breaking out in the CFL
or someone that might have a high upside.

633
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.440
And you know, the other guy
that went to Ohio was Nathan Rourke.

634
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:39.639
UM. So you know, it
was interesting to kind of see that.

635
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.079
Definitely a great game for him,
you know, happy for him and

636
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.119
his performance. I want to talk
about Tyree Adams again quickly. UM.

637
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:52.760
I thought he had a modest performance. You know, he maybe he could

638
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:53.639
have had a couple more yards through
the year. I think he had one

639
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.280
hundred eighty five passing yards um.
But in terms of you know, completion

640
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.960
percentage and yards per attempt, those
were spot on. I think they're definitely

641
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:07.559
building something with him again. You
know, whether it's long term or not,

642
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:08.400
we'll see. You know, we
still got to find out, you

643
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.079
know, how well and missoul he
can play when he comes back. You

644
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.719
have to keep that in mind as
an Ottawa fan. But I think at

645
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:19.480
this point, Tyree Adams is a
solid backup option and you're definitely gonna take

646
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.039
him over Nick Arbuckle because you know, we saw how well that experiment went

647
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.599
at the beginning of the season.
And that's no hate to Nick Arbuckle,

648
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:29.960
by the way. It was just
an unfortunate stretch of events there. But

649
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.360
the last thing I really want to
talk about for autow up that's you know,

650
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.840
I think something that's gonna get overlooked
is they had two cornerbacks Keen Bailey

651
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.559
and I'm doing kind of combining for
six tackles for loss, which I think

652
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.440
if the defensive back position to have
those kind of numbers is pretty impressive.

653
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.840
Just sort of something that stood out
in the stat sheet, not necessarily something

654
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.679
that you would have picked up on
during the game. But yeah, overall,

655
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:54.400
I mean, this was definitely a
game to Ottawa needed a gat.

656
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:57.880
I know it's against Edmonton. I
know they're not the strongest team, but

657
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.000
Ottawa really needed to win like this
wre they could just go out in front

658
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.239
of a home crowd and just have
a good time again, you know,

659
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.199
because there hasn't been a lot of
that for this team and what feels like

660
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:08.480
a while. Yeah, Jason,
do you take anything away having a flyer?

661
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:12.159
I mean that, do you take
anything away from Ottawa winning this game

662
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.000
because it was against the alex Like, what do you make of this?

663
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.199
I mean, you gotta take some
positives out of it. I mean,

664
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.000
you know, the thing is,
like the last time they won a home

665
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.800
game was also against Edmonton. So
I think they've won like two home games

666
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:29.239
in the last like four years,
and they've all been against They've both been

667
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.159
against the Elks. So take that
for what you will. But I think,

668
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.840
um, you know, Tyree Adams
provided a good spark for the team.

669
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.679
I think that he allows them to
run a little bit more of you

670
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:43.400
know, versatile offense because of his
legs. I think you can get outside

671
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.360
and now run some bootlegs and whatnot, and that kind of puts additional pressure

672
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:50.440
on the defense. So it kind
of opened up their playbook from that perspective,

673
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:52.920
and I think that also opened up
the running game as well. So

674
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:57.559
I think Tuggle played really well in
this game for them, like Evan said,

675
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.199
and then I think their defenses actually
look very good through three games this

676
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:06.880
season. Against Montreal week one they
looked good, and then against Calgary they

677
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.039
look pretty good for the most part. So definitely some positive signs in Ottawa,

678
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.880
but I think they'll need more from
their offense going forward if they want

679
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.159
to consider themselves true contenders. But
like you said, Evan, it's up

680
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:22.639
to when Missoli's back, I think. And we still have no time.

681
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:24.360
I know there was the big notes
here coming out to buy, but as

682
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:28.159
far as I know, there's still
no timetable and when he's coming back,

683
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:39.480
right Jason, Jason, No,
okay? Yeah, good, okay,

684
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:43.880
And so anyway, so no timetable
on that. I have some notes here.

685
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.719
You know, we had the big
kind of daggy you know he's coming

686
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.360
out. Okay, what are we
gonna do here? In nineteen thirty three,

687
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:55.119
according to Morley Scott on here it
looks like Cornelius is back taking the

688
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:59.320
ones for the Alex I have tweeted
here. In the definition of insanity,

689
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:01.599
Evan, what do you make of
this, We're going back to Cornelius again.

690
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.880
Yeah, so Jared Deeggie definitely came
down a bit, you know,

691
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:08.400
back to Earth. I would say, you know, after he kind of

692
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.760
came in the other week and had
a nice you know ending to that game,

693
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.559
and everyone started asking a question,
you know, hey, maybe his

694
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:19.480
Jared the guy going forward? He
was, you know, again, this

695
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.719
was a game where you know,
he turned the ball over too much.

696
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:23.440
If you can look past the turnovers, I think he did all right,

697
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.400
Like it was definitely better than what
Cornelius had offered him previous weeks. So

698
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.159
I'm still surprised, yes, as
well, that they were going back to

699
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:36.159
Taylor Cornelius. I think, you
know, yeah, like it didn't work

700
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.079
out with Jared, but you know
you could put in like Trey forward,

701
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:42.199
and I know Kyle Locks has gone
now, but maybe you try getting another

702
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.079
guy or even well, I mean
Khalil Tate's more of a short yardage option.

703
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:46.639
I know they signed him, but
it wouldn't even hurt for him to

704
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.679
get it. I mean, at
this point, it's such an experiment,

705
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.000
you know, and I mean we
can talk about this for a while,

706
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.840
but I just feel like there's so
many things there where it's like, you

707
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:59.880
know, you can only plug so
many things in, you know, to

708
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.119
fill so many holes, and it's
like, I just don't know how many

709
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.320
holes there are, Like it just
seems like there's a lot of trial and

710
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.760
error, and it seems like this
team shouldn't be at a point where there's

711
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.679
that much trial and err And it's
very frustrating because every week you want emman

712
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:15.480
to get better and it just doesn't
seem like they're heading in the right direction.

713
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.920
It almost seems like they're regressing.
And that's a problem. It's a

714
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.800
problem if it doesn't gonna get if
it doesn't get fixed, soon, might

715
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:28.000
start costing people some jobs. And
um, you know, I love Chris

716
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.159
Jones. I think he's a great
man. But at this point, I

717
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.920
mean, if they can't hell,
if they don't win a home game this

718
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.440
year, I'm sorry, but that's
someone's got to go at that point.

719
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.639
I mean, you know, right
now, I think at the rate they're

720
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:43.679
going at, you're looking at,
you know, a possible four win season,

721
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.280
and I think Andy had brought that
up in our chat, you know,

722
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.760
saying that that's almost a ceiling because
you could really say, you know,

723
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.039
three wins even and I don't know, maybe that's being a bit harsh,

724
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.519
but like what else do you have
to show for it? You know,

725
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:58.320
it's it's a real shame. And
I'd say right now, they're in

726
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.320
a worse spot than Ottawa. I
know, were just broke their home street

727
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.440
too, and they've had their own
struggles and they're down some players. But

728
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.079
I mean, man Edmonton, like
every week it's just like, I mean,

729
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.199
I can't imagine what it's like to
be an Elks fan. I really

730
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.519
can't. I have this tweet here. I thought as well, this through

731
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.559
that Monte Chris Jones built this team. Chris Jones hired his assistance, Chris

732
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.920
Jones shows who go all in on
Cornelius. Chris Jones is the highs that

733
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.920
responsible for the current stay that this
Alex football team is time to move on

734
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.800
from Chris Jones. I remember too
with Rod when they when they hired Chris,

735
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:34.199
it was before they brought in Victor
Quee and there was like this,

736
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.119
well like, how do you hire
the head coach at GM before the president.

737
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.719
I think we're seeing maybe a little
bit about you know, disruption here

738
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.320
now. Jason what do you make
of this is the overall well for a

739
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:47.119
check on the Elks. Oh,
it's just such a circus in Edmonton.

740
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.239
Like I mean, now they're pretty
cornelius back in. It just doesn't make

741
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:54.400
sense. If you're gonna make that
switch, you gotta let a guy that's

742
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:59.079
making his first career of sefball start
at least have a couple of games to

743
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:00.599
get it right. I mean,
if you really believe in the guy,

744
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.039
and now you're showing that you don't
really believe in the guy to get it

745
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:08.400
right, and you're going back to
a formally that you know that won't work

746
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:13.039
in Taylor Cornelius. So it just
drives me insane. Like I said,

747
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.480
what I would do is just put
Trey forward in there trying to make some

748
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:21.800
kind of option run heavy offense at
this point, because you know, I

749
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:23.840
just don't think this team can run
the ball. I think the offensive line

750
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:29.079
is also a huge problem. And
I think that you know, it's just

751
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:31.320
just a complete circus at Edmonton.
I really don't know what to make of

752
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.960
it at this point. It just
seem like, like Evan said, the

753
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:37.960
regressing, Yeah, Gary here has
a I won't pull it up right now

754
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.119
because it we'll cover all this.
In my opinion, o line is the

755
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.199
starting point. It doesn't matter who
the quarterback, receivers or running back is

756
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.000
if the line isn't working. This
is interesting too. I had a tweet

757
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:52.039
here from Chris This go out situation
is really fascinating. The whole business might

758
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.840
need new ownership and governance model.
It's possible the idea of community owned has

759
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:01.000
actually destroyed under the way of traditions, story history and volunteer board. I

760
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:07.199
don't know. I think when I
talked to Victor Queet two years ago,

761
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:08.599
I felt like it was a very
different Victor Queet than I talked to you

762
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:13.840
this year going into the season.
Evan, anything else on Victor of the

763
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:17.159
Elks kind of like I think it
was. I think it was a situation

764
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:21.000
where he came in, had a
lot of excitement and ideas, and I

765
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:22.639
think there is a lot of things
that you have to deal with there in

766
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:27.239
terms of kind of this whole lineage
of everything, and we can't disrupt too

767
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.800
much and we gotta keep people happy. Any anything else on the Elks here,

768
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.559
right, I mean, there's really
two sides of the situation. You

769
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:38.119
know what we've discussed a lot on
this show is on field performance. You

770
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:42.360
know, you're talking about you know, Jared Dagy, Taylor, Cornelius,

771
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.599
Gino Lewis, et cetera, et
cetera. But the other side of it

772
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:47.760
is kind of behind the scenes,
right, It's what you don't see on

773
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.960
the field. It's you know,
fans not being in the stands. You

774
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.039
know, you haven't won a home
game and X many this point, you're

775
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:58.679
talking years, you know, which
is just staggering. I know there was

776
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.000
the COVID year and everything, but
you know, you're you're talking about an

777
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:07.079
ownership group that came in very excited, you know, in a coaching staff

778
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.079
that came in very excited. Chris
Jones again, all the assistants, everyone

779
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:14.400
that he put together. Everyone came
in really excited. And that excitement has

780
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:19.480
quickly disappeared, you know, and
for good reasons, because it's just there's

781
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.239
so much I want to say misfortune, but I feel like a lot of

782
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:27.639
it. You know, it's just
it's it's poor construction, it's you know,

783
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.320
I feel like this whole again.
Love Chris Jones, great man.

784
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.519
I think he's from Tennessee, so, you know, a fellow Southerner.

785
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.199
That's fantastic. I love Chris Jones, but yeah, you know, as

786
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:42.840
a coach, you can only have
so much loyalty towards a player. I

787
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:46.159
know we're shifting back here from the
ownership sort of to the on field play.

788
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.639
And that's fine because I can only
talk about, you know, the

789
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:52.840
ownership so much because I only know
so much about it. Right as fans,

790
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:54.639
you're only seeing a lot of the
on field product. So I'm gonna

791
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:57.880
go back to that for a minute
and say, you know, you can

792
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.000
only have so much loyalty towards a
guy like Cornelius before you kind of just

793
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.679
have to realize, like, if
I don't pull the plug or switch something

794
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.800
soon, you know, this could
not only cost my job, but everyone

795
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.360
else around me. You know,
the whole domino effect could fall pretty quickly

796
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.119
if you don't start making drafts and
changes. So it's kind of weird to

797
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:20.360
see Edmonton. It's like you made
the right step putting in a guy like

798
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.400
Jared Diggy, and I know he
didn't have the best performance, but then

799
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.880
you immediately go back to Cornelius as
if nothing happened. And I'm with Jason

800
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:30.480
on this. I think at this
point, you know, tray forward is

801
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:34.519
like it's just screaming tray forward.
You know, that just seems to be

802
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.679
the top option in my opinion.
Now that you've let go of Kyle Locksley,

803
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:39.559
it would appear that you have more
trust than the guy like Trey Ford,

804
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.440
and I really liked what I saw
from him last year, you know,

805
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.480
before he got injured. So I
just yeah, I don't know.

806
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.079
I mean, there's so many questions
here, but it just doesn't seem like

807
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:54.440
again, there's just not really any
answer. Like it almost seems like you

808
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.960
never want to speak too soon.
You never want to speak too early.

809
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.599
But I was saying in week one, it's like you just have this ominous

810
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.239
feeling that like the season has almost
gone the waist already, and you never

811
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.280
want to say that in such a
long season. But at this point you're

812
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.519
you're kind of just playing to get
things done and to move on to the

813
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.840
next thing, which in week four
is oh, that's that's brutal. That's

814
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:20.679
all I'll say about it. Jameson, I was flashing some tweets and here

815
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:22.480
I have years up here. Every
week. I think the oxy Robot they

816
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.039
might be still might not be their
Alsa, Chrissena Constable kind of with the

817
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.840
gross Britney face. Any other thoughts
on those comments, and then we can

818
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.000
look forward. Yeah, So,
one thing I wanted to say, and

819
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.519
what drives me nuts about this,
is that they had the confidence to start

820
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:43.119
Prey Forward last year as a true
rookie over Tylor Cornelius. Cornelius I believe

821
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.400
was the fourth fourth string quarterback to
begin last season, but they won't start

822
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:49.880
him now. I just don't get
that. So um, you know,

823
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.239
just confusing all around from the Elks
and how they've managed their quarterback situation.

824
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:57.960
I think that Chris Jones, I
think it's just a situation of him wearing

825
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.199
too many hats there. He's the
GM, he's the head coach and the

826
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.920
defensive coordinator, and that also makes
it more difficult, Like the one tweet

827
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.079
was saying to get rid of them
during the middle of the season. Here,

828
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:12.000
So let's move forward here and then
we can kind of hit this three

829
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.679
down thing before we get out.
I think we'll go good time lice here

830
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.239
and then I gotta go. I
got a fourth of July wedding here today

831
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:22.559
looking forward here, who is it? Okay? Some Montreal's and that you're

832
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:28.119
playing BC here Edmonton Thursday night going
into Saskatchewan. We have Calgary at Winnipeg

833
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:32.519
Ottama going into Hamilton, and then
Montreal at BC evan game here. You're

834
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:37.760
looking forward to thoughts here as we
kind of recap this, I would definitely

835
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.800
say BC Montreal. It seems like
a kind of a bounce back game for

836
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:43.719
both teams, you know, given
that they both lost, and given the

837
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:45.840
potential on both sides there, I
definitely think that'll be a good way to

838
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:49.159
wrap up the week. And then
a game that I would say it has

839
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:53.519
some potential is Calgary Winnipeg. Calgary
is still a team I believe in.

840
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:58.239
I would not put them over teams
like, you know, a Saskatchewan or

841
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:02.239
again in Montreal, even though they're
another division. But I feel like Calgary,

842
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:05.719
you know, maybe they come off
to buy, maybe Jake mayor you

843
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:07.719
know, does some things better,
and maybe they give Winnipeg run for their

844
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:13.199
money, because again Winnipeg, you
know, we're not counting Winnipeg out yet.

845
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.920
Obviously they have been essentially a dynasty
here in the past couple of years,

846
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:20.519
going back to twenty nineteen. But
you know, at this point,

847
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.719
like Calgary could give them a run
for their money. I mean, they've

848
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:27.159
been playing slower football again. I
know they played in a game that had

849
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:30.199
a weather delay and that might have
caused some issues, and the week before

850
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.039
they kind of just crumbled. But
it would be nice to see, you

851
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.840
know, a close Winnipeg Calgary game, especially in Winnipeg too. I think

852
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.559
that'll be a good one. Jason, are you worried about now a red

853
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:45.920
hot out of a red Lights team
in Hamilton? Well, I'll be picking

854
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:47.719
the Red Blacks to win this game, That's that's for sure. Yeah,

855
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.320
I just don't have any confidence in
the tire Cats at this point. But

856
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:57.280
I mean, maybe they got together
over the bye week they figure out magically

857
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.199
how to score touchdowns. But at
the end of the day, I just

858
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.400
you know, I'm looking forward to
that game. I'm gonna be at that

859
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:07.199
game, but I just don't have
that much confidence. I don't have that

860
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.280
much excitement for that game, although
I will What I will say, what

861
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:14.360
would provide some more juice to that
matchup is if Jeremima has always suddenly made

862
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:17.960
his season debut at Hamilton has returned
to Hamilton. But it doesn't look like

863
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.039
at this point based on reports,
I've seen that he's super close to returning.

864
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.960
Yeah, it's it's hard. It's
getting to the point in the season

865
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.519
here where it starts becoming a little
more lopsided, right, I mean the

866
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.000
first couple of weeks and okay,
what's going on, you know? And

867
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:36.320
I understand the CFL seasons and marathon
not a sprit, but we are kind

868
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.599
of discovering kind of who these teams
are at this point. I would like

869
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:43.119
to see BC really kick the snot
out of the Montreal Aloettes here, just

870
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.760
to kind of bounce back and kind
of show what they're app but obviously love

871
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.400
Cody and kind of everyone over there. Yeah, Winnipeg, I think that

872
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.719
would be a good one kind of
Friday night this Edmonton. I just don't

873
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.519
know if they can get right here
going in the Saskatchewan. I think that's

874
00:51:55.559 --> 00:52:00.039
going to be tough for them.
Any other thoughts you guys have we and

875
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.159
kind of hit this list real quick
in the last five minutes before we get

876
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:06.440
out of the eight ways CFL fans
leadership is failing them? Anything else from

877
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.360
either of you guys before we do
that. I was just gonna say that

878
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:15.199
Jake Mayer usually plays really well against
Winnipeg based on its early career here,

879
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.599
So I think that that could be
a pretty fun game on Friday night.

880
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.519
So we have this here. This
is from Matthew Ross and I, like

881
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:23.840
I said, Jim Bull and it
kind of shared this earlier in the week.

882
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:25.880
I had this book tomorrow because I'm
like, well, we've got,

883
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:29.840
you know, three games kind of
get into this, and so he had

884
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:34.280
he had posted on CFL you know, on Twitter and on Reddit here things

885
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.800
where CFL fans feel like leadership is
failing them. And I want to see

886
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.159
if we don't need to like do
a deep dive on all of these.

887
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:44.679
But you know, talking like grassroots, developing the grassroots, you know,

888
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:49.400
working with Football Canada where Football Canada
has an agreement with the NFL now and

889
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.000
kind of trying to figure that out, and the Urashimadonni just got signed onto

890
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.719
the board of Football Canada. You
know, technology, we're doing the stats

891
00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.199
and kind of all that stuff.
Evan, where would you say that you

892
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.840
feel like CFL leadership is failing its
fans right now? They had to ask

893
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:07.840
you. It's a great question,
you know, and this is really a

894
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:13.280
great discussion to have here at the
end of the show, I leaned towards

895
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:19.159
promotion, and not necessarily I mean
promotion of the product, but really it

896
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:23.199
originates with diversifying the product. And
I've you know, I've talked about that

897
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:30.000
with certain people before where the CFL
has unfortunately fallen behind in areas where you

898
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:32.679
know, I guess like fan engagement, you know, it just a lot

899
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:37.039
of it seems almost recycled. And
what I mean by that is, you

900
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.480
know, the XFL and the USFL. Again, those are completely different products,

901
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:43.199
so I'm not really trying to draw
comparison here, but those are also

902
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.639
football leagues operating in the United States, and you know, like the XFL,

903
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:49.920
like I don't know, it seemed
like they made an efforts in with

904
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:52.960
the USFL to sort of you know, bring in new concepts and you know,

905
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:57.679
kind of make it their own unique
product. Like there was always something

906
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.480
again unique about it, and the
CFL is definitely unique. That's not really

907
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:05.400
the point I'm getting at here.
The CFL in terms of their teams and

908
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:09.400
location and really the history is what
makes it so different. But I just

909
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:14.679
feel like, you know, every
year, it's there's just less and less,

910
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.280
like the number of in person fans
is dropping off, the viewership is

911
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:22.159
dropping off. I feel like,
you know, the league like kind of

912
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.320
ending their relationship with ESPN to stream
the games to ESPN Plus. I feel

913
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:30.239
like that Ultimately, I feel like
that wasn't a great idea because now your

914
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:35.639
TV option of CBS Sports Network,
which just isn't as accessible because they used

915
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:37.719
to have a lot of games on
like ESPN two, which a lot of

916
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.760
people had. Now you're streaming through
CFL Plus. I do like the CFL

917
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:45.239
Plus, um, if you want
to talk about promotion and positive areas,

918
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:49.840
I think you know them sort of
expanding CFL you know, to a broadcasting

919
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.800
stage at least for the games that
aren't being aired on CBS. I think

920
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:58.159
that's a good step in the right
direction to grow international viewership. But ultimately,

921
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.480
you know, a lot of the
product just seems so you know,

922
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:07.119
old and used. It's like every
year it's the I want to say,

923
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.320
it's the same thing. I mean, they bring in different players and this

924
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:14.800
and that, but ultimately it's like
they just really need a brand refresh.

925
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:16.679
I think that's what they really need, and I don't know where that starts.

926
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:22.199
Again, this isn't necessarily my expertise. You know, I only know

927
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:27.719
so much about the ins and outs
of I mean, I know decent in

928
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:30.000
that about how football leagues work,
but there's a lot about this that runs

929
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:32.920
deeper than that. So ultimately,
I think, you know, you're just

930
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.880
looking at just finding more ways for
fans to be interested again, you know,

931
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.559
whether that means bringing in different names
or I think a lot of people

932
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:46.360
at this point, and I've discussed
this too, it's just expanding the Canadian

933
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:50.599
talent, you know, make it
more. There's sort of this hodgepodge right

934
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.199
now where you have some good Canadian
players, but then a lot of the

935
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:57.000
guys that get talked about are Americans, and some people don't like that,

936
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.559
and you know there's a lot of
the pro Canadians who can't deal with that.

937
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:01.800
So I think maybe you're looking at, you know, bringing in more

938
00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:06.760
Canadians and taking pride in sort of
the Canadian football development. I mean,

939
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:08.679
you brought up football Canada earlier.
I mean, you know, you want

940
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:13.599
to bring in maybe homegrown prospects.
It was a big deer, big deal.

941
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:16.320
Excuse me last year when Trey Ford, you know, was drafted,

942
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:20.800
a Canadian quarterback that had starting potential. I know we just talked about the

943
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:23.639
Elks before, but I feel like, you know, the league, if

944
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:28.639
they capitalize on that homegrown talent,
you know, that could draw in more

945
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:31.400
viewers from their own countries who are
already tied into again the universities, you

946
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:35.719
know, U sports programs in Canada, things of that nature. And I

947
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.000
know I'll end this with saying that's
a controversial topic, and I understand that,

948
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:44.960
you know, bringing Americans to that
league definitely diversifies the talent pool just

949
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:46.400
because of their background. I mean, look at a guy like Austin Mack

950
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:50.280
who played at Ohio State. You
know, you don't really have that in

951
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:53.239
Canada. So again, it's a
it's a controversial topic. I would still

952
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:57.639
like to see Americans in the league. So maybe what I'm getting at here

953
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:02.000
ultimately is you change the the import
rules again. Um, but I don't

954
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:06.719
know. That's I've already talked a
lot, so I'll just leave it at

955
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:08.280
that. That's good, Jason.
Before we get yeah, what do you

956
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:10.880
want to see here? Someone you
followed the league, you know, you

957
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:14.239
you cover the league every week?
What would you like to see them?

958
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.000
How? How are they familing the
CFL fans. Well. To borrow a

959
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:22.000
line from my good friend on social
media, Todd Maugie, this league has

960
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:28.199
to act like a professional league just
to do the simple things right, and

961
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:31.199
that would really change the perception I
think of the league. I think that

962
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:37.599
something as simple as having your statistics
correct, of having live updated statistics,

963
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:40.519
I think that's important, um you
know, having um, you know,

964
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:45.599
just good infrastructure around the league.
I think that's important. To the tech

965
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:49.679
thing, I think is absolutely huge
in terms of being able to reach new

966
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:53.440
fans and have data accessible to fans. I think that is super important.

967
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:59.119
But I think the league just needs
to do the simple things better because I

968
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.840
think there's certain areas that they just
don't do well and I think that has

969
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:07.480
really plagued their reputation. And I
think, um, you know, going

970
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.199
forward, there's uh, there's a
lot of issues we could talk about,

971
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:13.719
and they get into a lot of
these in this article, but I think

972
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:15.679
a lot of it comes down to
um, you know. I think transparency

973
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:20.599
is a big thing as well,
because the league is kind of a sixth

974
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:23.639
month a year league, or however
however many months long the season is.

975
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:28.119
Because in the off season, it's
pretty dead around the CFL and not many

976
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.920
people talking about it. The league
needs to find a way to keep themselves

977
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:35.880
more relevant during that time. Maybe
it's uh, you know, holding more

978
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.480
of a more press conferences or something
like that, or you know, just

979
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:43.119
being more open about what their plans
are. But I think at the end

980
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.559
of the day, there's just a
lot of problems plaguing the CFL, and

981
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:51.400
I think that um, you know, just being transparent and um, you

982
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:54.000
know, acting more like a professional
league is a big thing. I don't

983
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:58.559
think I was very clear there,
but acting more like a professional league is

984
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:02.920
very important. I think it's interesting. And we obviously deal with this a

985
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:08.519
lot with the XFL and the USFL
and I think all these other leagues,

986
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:12.280
you know, and to lump the
CFL in there, which I know that

987
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.760
they don't like. And I was
talking with jam And last night about this,

988
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:16.960
and I said, you know,
I understand the CFL is not an

989
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:21.880
alternative league in their mind, and
nor should it be, but just in

990
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.280
terms of kind of the greater landscape, it is, right. I understand,

991
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:28.599
it's you know, it's primary football
and everything in Canada. I understand

992
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.360
how that I deal with this with
the XFL and the USL. Like I

993
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:35.159
said, you know, everyone looks
at the NFL and it's like, well,

994
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.639
that's we need to act like that, right, like we need to

995
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:43.559
be and you get maybe a little
bit more standoffish sometimes. And we had

996
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.440
the whole thing this year with the
USFL and like we're real football for real

997
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:50.599
fans, and like we really know
what we're doing. And then they come

998
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:54.039
out before the championship game and it's
like we're baffled why our radians are down

999
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:57.840
this year, and you're like,
well, because you kind of acted standoffish

1000
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.679
and like an a whole all year
in terms of you know, this is

1001
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:02.400
our league and this is what we're
gonna do. And it's the same with

1002
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:07.000
the CFL. I think, like
embrace more of the grassroots, embrace more

1003
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.239
of you know, the content creators, like you know Jason and like the

1004
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:15.559
cf perspective guys, and like you
know, the three down Like I you

1005
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:19.960
know, the NFL doesn't need to
play ball with anyone because they're bigger than

1006
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:23.599
anything in the entire history of the
earth where anything else besides that, I

1007
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:27.840
just I wish that they would would
lean more in. And I've said that

1008
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:31.800
the same with the XFL I think
the XFL needs to be more CFL than

1009
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:36.800
NFL in terms of let's get fans
out to the communities, let's get people

1010
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:38.519
work in, Let's do fan events, let's do local trade shows, let's

1011
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:42.320
kind of do all this stuff.
Like I said at the top where where

1012
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:45.440
Rod was kind of momentum that they
don't do that anymore. And I don't

1013
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:49.159
know if it's lack of funds or
lack of carrying or lack of resource.

1014
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.840
There's a lack of time, but
yeah, it's hard, you know.

1015
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:54.039
And I talk with some of the
CFL teams and Okay, we only want

1016
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.679
players to come on during the bye
week, and certain teams like well,

1017
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.639
we only want people to come on
during whatever. We can't do a during

1018
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:01.920
training camp. But then during the
season it's too busy. It's like,

1019
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:07.280
you know, you gotta you gotta
kind of you can't don't hide this in

1020
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:08.480
the bushel basket. You know,
you kind of gotta get the step out

1021
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:12.719
here. So that's kind of my
two cents, Evan, anything else from

1022
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:14.519
you, we'll go to Jason.
We'll get out of here. Like I

1023
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:16.840
said, I gotta go. We
gotta wonderful for the July wedding here today,

1024
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:21.159
So anything else for you Goving?
Yeah, Sometimes I wonder how different

1025
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:23.920
the landscape would be right now if
the CFL and the XFL kept their partnership

1026
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.280
in place. Um. I know
there were some talks about, you know,

1027
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:31.320
potentially having a XFL team maybe in
Toronto. You know, whether that's

1028
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:34.760
really to the Argonauts. I don't
know if that might really piss off the

1029
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.639
Pro Canadians, So I won't.
I won't go into that too much,

1030
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.039
you know, at the risk of
being bullied or something like that. But

1031
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.320
no, I mean, you know, look, it's a very complex issue.

1032
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:46.559
That's that's the bottom line here.
There are many issues, you know,

1033
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:50.480
playing in the league. It's not
just one glaring problem that we're all

1034
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.880
you know, dealing with their looking
at um And I do think the league

1035
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.119
has time to turn it around.
I think the one, you know,

1036
01:01:55.239 --> 01:02:00.480
great part about this product is if
you can get fans engaged and can get

1037
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:04.440
fans to follow along. You know, it's a twenty one week season,

1038
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:06.800
and I keep saying that every show. I'm like, oh, twenty one

1039
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:08.199
weeks, twenty one weeks, but
like that's a long time. I mean,

1040
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:12.960
you're going from you know, June
to November, you know, in

1041
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:15.920
the Great Cups in November. That's
a long time for football. I mean

1042
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:20.119
you're looking at those are you know
NFL numbers? So yeah, I mean,

1043
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.960
if you can get fans to kind
of commit to a team and you

1044
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:27.280
know, it's really something to follow
along, that's what the CFL has the

1045
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.719
advantage over leagues like the XFL and
the USFL, where it's only a ten

1046
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:34.000
game regular season. There's a lot
more time to sort of you know,

1047
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.400
be a fan or you know,
engage with the product and really you know,

1048
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:39.719
follow along, and there's so many
more things that could happen. It

1049
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:43.559
makes it more interesting on that front. And that's a part two that I

1050
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:45.880
think the league could really capitalize on. So that's my two cents as well.

1051
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:49.679
On top of the whole. I
don't know what I was talking about

1052
01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:52.079
before, even I guess it was
sort of the you know, the import

1053
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:54.440
sizes, things like that, you
know, developing more Canadian talent. I

1054
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:59.119
think all those things would definitely be
a step in the right direction. Find

1055
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:01.320
on that for me, will that
Jason. I just saw this here Curtsy

1056
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:07.199
farhamology. Looks like Missoli is starting
practice to there so that is exciting here.

1057
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:09.679
Good news for the Red Blacks,
good news potentially for your matchup.

1058
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:14.719
There was that the Friday matchup,
right, Ottawa coming in there. But

1059
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:16.800
any of the thought any other thoughts
from me, Jason before we get out

1060
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:20.800
of here. Yeah, the last
thing I'll say about the whole um,

1061
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:23.400
and this is more of an overarching
problem with the league, is that I

1062
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:28.599
think there's a lack of lockstep with
the all the nine teams. I think

1063
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:32.719
that not much comes from the CFL
front front office itself. I think a

1064
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:36.880
lot of it is just due to
you know, a lot of the things

1065
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:39.400
in terms of engagement promotion is up
to the teams themselves, and I think

1066
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:44.199
that's a big problem. There's less
of that league led uh you know,

1067
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:46.719
initiative. I think that's a that's
a big problem. I think there needs

1068
01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:52.280
to be more centralization in the league
in terms of the leadership. Yeah,

1069
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.679
that's you know, I it's tricky. And that was like when we come

1070
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:59.599
into the kind of the all the
XFL talks and kind of learning to have

1071
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:01.199
all of the works, and you
know, Ambrosie is more of like at

1072
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:03.920
the whim of them and trying to
balance kind of all that stuff. It's

1073
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.920
interesting because you know we talk in
the XFL, I'm like, or the

1074
01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:11.000
USFL, Hey, we want to
sell off all these franchises and do whatever.

1075
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:14.920
I'm like, it's hard then,
and then you got to deal with

1076
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:16.880
you know, it's easier when you
kind of have central ownership there of kind

1077
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.719
of you know, managing all of
this. And you know when the XFL,

1078
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:24.239
I like, if they can't get
social right where it's one office kind

1079
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:26.480
of doing it all spread out,
you know, good luck. Then when

1080
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:29.239
you kind of have you know,
eight or nine or whatever different kind of

1081
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.440
individual franchises, we will get out
of here. I appreciate it. Check

1082
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:35.039
out, you know, Jason does
is like, you know, the kind

1083
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:39.320
of the previews going into the weekend
and it kind of the instant reactions and

1084
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:41.760
all of that stuff. I hope
you have fun at the game this week,

1085
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:44.159
Evan. I appreciate it. I
don't know if we mentioned on the

1086
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:46.440
show, but Evan, we'll be
joining us at the Gray Cup as well,

1087
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:49.320
and Jason's going to be there in
Hamilton and I'll be there, so

1088
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:54.480
it should be fun. We'll figure
that out, like and subscribe and we'll

1089
01:04:54.480 --> 01:05:05.800
see you next time. Pix the
betting nine nine h