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Welcome everybody. Here we go.
It is that time again, Matt Connerton

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Unleashed and we are live from the
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show archives, etc. Etc.
Today is Wednesday, June fourteen,

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two thousand and twenty three, so
nice to have you all with me.

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And speaking of people being with me, coming up in just a few minutes,

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we're gonna hear from as I like
to call him, my favorite conservative,

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Eric Pilcher. Not only does he
do the classic film reviews for us

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on Fridays, but we do a
weekly segment on Wednesday, and we didn't

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have Eric last week. He had
some other things going on, but he's

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back today and he's gonna be I'm
not sure if he's calling or skyping.

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I forgot to ask him, but
I will be ready for either eventuality.

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So that will be coming up.
And then in the second hour. Today,

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we have a great musical guest,
Aaron Billado will be joining us.

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The last time Aaron was on,
I think the last time he was on,

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he was here with Hue the Gecko
and that that turned out to be

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quite a show and they played live
for us, and but it got the

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attention of the pod awful cult,
that's for sure. But uh, Aaron

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will be coming in today in the
second hour, and we're gonna share some

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of his music from his album Destroyer
and uh, and I'm really looking forward

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to talking with him. Uh.
You know, he didn't want to get

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you know, last time he was
here. Oh, Eric says he'll be

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skyping in thank you. Last time
Aaron was here, he didn't want to

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He didn't want to say too much
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so he was in more of a
supportive role. But I'm really looking forward

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to talking to Aaron about not only
his solo project, but the guy's got

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long, as I mentioned on social
media when promoting today today's show, quite

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a long resume in the music scene. So UM, really looking forward to

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talking with him and UM, so
that's gonna be coming up today in the

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second hour. We've got a lot
of music this week. Tomorrow in the

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second hour we've got Andrew North and
the Rangers coming in, and then on

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Friday we've got Hell's Throne, a
band from I think they're from Germany if

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I remember correctly. So so,
lots of music, lots of good stuff

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here on Matt Connerton Unleashed. If
you would like to get in with a

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quick call before we hear from our
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he will be skyping in. You
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You can email me Matt at matt
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you can interact endo Pine in the
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to do so that we can hear
and enjoy your dulcet tones is to give

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us a call at six zo three
two five six seven six zo three two

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five six seven. Oh. By
the way, speaking of music, musical

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guests, that song I opened with
on the show today, well, I

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played a couple of things. But
the first thing that I opened with,

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that's a song called Funeral Clown that
is a band Lady Chops and the g

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D Jam. It's not actually g
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we try to keep it clean of
course for an afternoon drive here. But

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they were my guests yesterday on the
show, all the way from Austin,

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Texas. They skyped in and just
incredible. So that was the new single,

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the world radio premiere of the new
single Funeral Clown from Lady Chops,

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and it's just such a great track, so I figured i'd open with it

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again today. And you know,
we've got a bunch of Aaron Bilidous songs

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too, of course, but we're
gonna save those for when he comes in.

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His solo songs are kind of short
but very very interesting. So anyway,

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lots of good stuff. We'll go
ahead and say hello to everybody in

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the Facebook live chat. Let's see
Facebook is being a little difficult as it

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is occasionally, let's see Mike from
Queen City Cabinetry joins us in the chat

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room. Mike, of course,
from well, Queen City Cabinetry is one

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of our sponsors here at WMH ninety
five point three. But also Mike is

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one of our co hosts Friday nights
on retro Spectrum Radio with poly C poly

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C myself, DJ Steven, of
course Mike from Queen City Cabinetry. This

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particular Friday night show I'm especially looking
forward to. It's going to be uh,

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you know, every week there's a
theme on the show, and this

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week the theme is demo versions,
the original demo versions of popular songs.

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I'm really looking forward to that.
So that's that's gonna be cool. Jenny

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is in the chat room, of
course, and says shalom, peeps.

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Also, Melanie Liberty from the Great
State of Vermont. Fredo as he's known

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in the scene, or I like
to say his full name, Alfredo Enrique

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Benavitis is in the chat room,
and you know what that sound means.

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Eric Pilcher is on thus Skype.
Yes, I am good afternoon, mad

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How are you good afternoon? Welcome
back. And by the way, Jay

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Fed in the chat room says thanks
for the shirt. I guess, mum,

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I'm not sure. Yeah, yes, yes, Texas Mike is fired

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as my representative. Oh my goodness, I didn't know Texas Mike was representing

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you. Wait, did you join
a new force of the Spark. How

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did Texas Mike get to be your
representative? No? Here, Last time

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Texas Mike was on there, he
was supposed to hook me up with some

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ice cream bar. Oh that's right, Yes, he did commit to that,

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didn't he heard nothing regarding this?
Yeah? Yeah, well you know,

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uh the gears of ice cream turned
slowly. I think that's an expression

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I heard once, but I don't
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so he might still be working on
it, is what I'm saying. I

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doubt it. I'm I'm very upset
that my demands have not been taken seriously

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here right right, Well, maybe
that's maybe that's the problem. Maybe because

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it was a demand, maybe you
need to make it a request. Maybe

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you should say, please, Texas
Mike, will you work on this for

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me? Will you get me my
ice cream bars? Matt, I'm a

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star. I understand, of course
you are. You're on the show.

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Absolutely only the stars come out for
Matt Cornton unleashed. That's our motto about

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that. You know, there's a
couple of individuals who claim to be stars,

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like there's this guy in Philadelphia that
things sees a staring yeah, and

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a guy in some crap burrow of
Jersey. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

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I guess anyone can. Well,
you know, the Internet is really

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over the years and social media has
kind of changed the way that people think

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about fame and stardom. You know, now you can be there's different types

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of fame now, I mean,
I mean, there's always been different types

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of fame, but now, for
example, you could be Internet famous,

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but not necessarily a household name,
not in the mainstream in the zeitgeist of

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American culture. Yeah, well I'm
bigger than this zeitgeist of American culture.

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Yes, yes, well, I'm
sure he's working on it. We'll see

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what he says in the chat room
about it. He was trying to decide,

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apparently, Texas Mike was trying to
decide whether to listen to my radio

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program or to watch John Hopwood's program
with a couple of other fine gentlemen.

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But he chose us, so he's
definitely listening. He chose us, Eric,

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and I think you're the reason.
I think you're the reason he chose

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us, So he probably very much
wants you to point I was invited to

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be on that show today I chose
to be on here. Thank you.

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Well, then all is as it
should be, except you don't have your

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ice cream bars or a shirt.
But other than that, all is as

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it should be. Absolutely okay,
good, good you. I was worried

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there for a second. I thought, I don't know why I'm even calling

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in. It's been pretty boring on
the news front. Oh yes, well,

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uh we as we might have something
to discuss. I think somebody wants

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to chime in on that. So
what do you guys want to talk about?

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Yes, yes, so I think
uh Cody would like to hear us

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discuss out as well. The subject. Now what what is it? Now?

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What is it that went on in
the news? Uh? Something about

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something something? Oh? Yes,
yes, yes, yes, yesterday Donald

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Trump was once again arraigned in uh
in court in in Florida. Yeah yeah,

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this this one might be the bad
one. Mmmm. You think,

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well this is national security here?
Yes, yes, this this one,

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this one might stick a little.
Uh this this it is this kind of

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I wasn't I wasn't around for this
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feelings of water Gate here. Oh, if these allegations are true, assuming

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and I say if, because uh, the former president, like any American

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has afforded the or is supposed to
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until proven guilty. But I would
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proven to be true in a court
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far far worse. I mean,
Watergate was over, you know as they

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as they like to call it,
a third rate break in to the Democratic

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National Headquarters. This is this involves
nuclear secrets and uh, you know,

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the potentially compromised sources and methods assets
in the field. I mean, this

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is uh, I would say,
this is far worse. Yeah, this

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is like, this is bad.
Yeah, this is really bad. And

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I mean I just Jenny posted how
she was shocked at the support for him

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had when looked low at a looked
low at a rally, and I commented,

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something is simmering with the conservatives here. I think there is And I

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said this for the last two years
on your show, there is an undercurrent

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of anyone but Trump. Sure,
oh sure that is going to grow now

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as this cycle goes on, do
you think so? I mean, it

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does seem to be growing. It
is growing, You're right, even even

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Mike Pence managed to be mildly critical
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it does seem to be growing.
I also think though, part of why,

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and I'm glad that we didn't see
any violence yesterday. I was worried

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about it, and we might yet
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But I think part of that too, might also be that how aggressive they've

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been about prosecuting January sixth insurrectionists or
rioters or if you prefer, and I

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think that might have kind of turned
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of actually, you know, nobody
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In other words, you know what
I mean, because apparently apparently there are

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consequences, Oh don't Yeah, I
mean, man consequences when you make bad

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decisions and break the law. Ye
get you say, yes, yes,

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So you think now I still believe
he's going to be the nominee, though

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no matter what, what what,
what say you? I think the longer

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this goes on, longer this is
drawn out, the Donald Trump camp has

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to find a way and it's it's
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it. They have to find a
way to squash this, get this done.

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And over with, because while this
is going on, this let's be

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honest, this happened at the worst
possible time for Donald Trump because you have

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this sciantists who is gaining momentum by
the day. In my opinion, you

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have other candidates now who could come
in and say, hey, you remember

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in twenty twenty we told you this
guy was a blowhard. You remember in

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twenty twenty four where he talked himself
out of a slam dunk reelection. Well,

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here we are so on that I
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someone that we've talked about before.
I'm curious what you think though, Um,

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Well, let me ask you this. Did you happen to watch did

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you happen to see any of Chris
Christie's town hall on CNN? I did

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not, And it wasn't because I
okay, it was because I didn't want

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to. Yeah. After the unmitigated, fiery, epic, totally destructive train

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wreck that was the Donald Trump one, I was like, this is gonna

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be more revered m so and so
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I have no interest. So I
I've I've seen most of it,

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not all of it. I need
to go back and watch what I missed

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because I I'm fascinated by these events, you know, and I saw,

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of course, I saw the Trump
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I have to say, so,
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Matt, I'm actually watching the Facebook
live chat and I want to address

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something real quick. Oh yeah,
go ahead. My comment about the timing

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wasn't saying that, oh they they
did it to sabotage Donald Trump. I'm

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saying from a political yeah yeah point
of view, this is bad. Oh

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yeah, yeah, this couldn't have
happened at a worse time for this man.

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Yeah, um right, no,
of course. Um, So I

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have seen most of the Chris Christy
town hall, now I have. I've

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I've always had mixed feelings about him, as we've discussed before on the show.

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For one thing, I you know, I don't trust him. I

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have never believed him about Bridgegate with
the George Washington Bridge and Fort Lee.

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Um, I believe he absolutely knew
what was going on there. And I've

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I've never bought his whole uh you
know, the obliviousness that he was portraying

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himself, that you know, like
he like he didn't know. I've never

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believed him having said that, I
have to I have to say when watching

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that town hall, first of all, I think he's evolved a bit,

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and I have to say, I
understand it doesn't work out. And this

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this goes for both Republicans and Democrats. The the individual who gets through the

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primaries, who can appeal to the
base to win those primaries, is very

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often not who would go on to
be the best general election candidate, because

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in the pri Mary's you have to
appeal appeal to the basin. In the

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general election you have to appeal to
a broader swath of people, independence,

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you know, swing voters and so
forth. I have to say, though,

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this occurred to me watching Chris Christie
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bit of it. I should,
and I think I saw CNN and dismissed

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it. Yeah, yeah, no, I and I believe me. I

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understand, I get it. But
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you put and obviously we you know, it's no secret. They'll never come

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right out and say it, but
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to be the nominee because they figured
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again, etcetera. Um, but
uh uh so the Trump Biden this is

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the South Park episode of Tird Sandwich
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But but what this is? Right? But I do think that Chris

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would be a phenomenal general election candidate
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hall is you put him on the
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will wreck Joe Biden in a way
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mean, look, and I understand
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which is basically everybody, would would
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able to be quick, being able
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that Biden seems to be gradually losing
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who and by the way, Chris
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you know, next to Biden on
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what I mean, but a young
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him. Do you remember, oh
did we lose you? Oh we lost

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Eric? It says reconnecting Eric,
can you hear me? Oh? We

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lost Eric. Um, I don't
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I'm gonna try to call him.
Sorry, everybody see what happens here.

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It's just a ringing. Can't get
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uh give us a give us a
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But uh no, I really do
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Christie would would just destroy Biden and
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needs help necessarily, but just make
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going on in the chat room and
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to skype back in or call us
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open. But let's see. Yeah, Ja Fed said thanks for my shirt,

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Matt, and Melanie said the Matt
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see who else have we got in
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have enough room in my closet for
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concept of the I'm sorry the comment
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said, who cares about them?
Editing for radio? Who cares about the

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timing for him. National security has
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And after Eric responded to that,
mel Melanie said, I love that you

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can see what I am writing in
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Let's skip a few of these.
Um Fredo says Newsome versus Christie would

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be at least would be at least
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Can you hear me? Yes,
I think my internet just glitched.

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My apologies. Oh that's okay,
it Uh that happens. That happens.

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phenomenal general election candidate for the Republicans. And let me just add what not

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only do I think he would uh
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but I also the thing about Chris
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town hall, um, you'll you'll
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know, you'll hear a lot of
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will not hear is a lot of
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kind of stuff which is only going
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who you know, anytime he's asked
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his mouth is complaining about wokeism.
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sort of that moderate Northeastern governor type
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that I actually am not terrified of. So I'm curious to hear what you

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think. I think the issue with
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hold on im mechel. Yeah,
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Okay, if we're how do I
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You have to be able to get
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the problem with Chris Christie is he
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so if it's him versus Biden?
I mean, where else are they?

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Where else are they gonna go?
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to be the nominee, no matter
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if if in a world where it
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yes, yeah, Joe Biden.
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over before California closes it if it's
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I'm gonna say he would sweep the
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probably do well in Florida, and
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think he would take the big,
the big early closers, and it would

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set up for a blowout. Um. Fredo in the chat room said,

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uh uh, today's GOP is so
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as rhinos. Well, that is
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mean, do you do you agree
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now, um, and there are
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but but they do they get tagged
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doesn't know, stands for Republican and
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not a conservative, you get uh, you get tagged with that. What

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do you think? I think?
One Conservatives have always had this like gang

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mentality within each other. Yeah.
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staunch I must staunch this person and
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and such like that. In they
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as far right leaning. And that's
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then you kind of take away,
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Donald Trump's, the Ted Cruises,
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If that makes sense. Now,
do you think I am still convinced

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that Trump will be the nominee?
Do you agree or do you think that

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this you just oh, that's right, you did say that earlier, and

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I think then we got cut off. So so what do you What do

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you think happens? I think as
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the thing with federal indictments, and
this is what makes this situation very,

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very, very bad from President Trump
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at the bottom of the iceberg when
they're first announced. There's going to be

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more that comes out and more and
more, and as this mounts, there's

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going to become a point where where
his just dismissing it isn't gonna cut it

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anymore. He's going to have to
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a strong enough answer. You can't
just say, oh, people brought it

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into my house and I didn't know
how do you not know? You're a

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former president, you have security up
the wazoo. You had to know you

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had these documents. Documents just aren't
accidentally placed. I have heard conservatives say,

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well, someone put plainted them there
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dumbest, most ridiculous thing I have
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that he took them, and he
just says, well, they were mine

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to take. And the thing that
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you know a Trump apologist, is
that, Uh listen, what's that?

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No, they were It's that simple. I know my documents, I know.

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But but also the thing that I
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to know why. And that is
something he has not explained. He has

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not explained why he took them and
what his intentions were. And and he

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sort of, you know, he
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something about, well, you know, I just hadn't had you know,

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I had a lot of personal things
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and uh, I just hadn't had
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And it's like wow, And by
the way, what a nightmare for any

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defense attorney. This guy is because
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Trump exists in a consistent state of
self immolation. And he just every time,

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you know, it's like every day
he wants to just light himself on

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fire. And and it's almost like
he enjoys torturing his defense attorneys and um,

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which may be why there's not very
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And uh, it's just uh it's
amazing, you know, because a

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defense attorney will tell you not to
talk, and that's all Trump wants to

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do is talk. Keep your mouth
shut. Yeah, that's what they tell

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you. If former professional wrestler Sonny
can take advice to keep her mouth shut

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and not appear on dark side of
the ring, what's Donald Trump's excuse,

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right, Well, his excuses,
Uh this this helps raise money, him

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getting out there and and and you
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you know, and he's very inclusive, as you know, he says,

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you know, it's not they're not
just after me, They're after all

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of us. Uh, and uh, you know, it does raise a

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hell of a lot of money.
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be the nominee because I think what
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I think, you know, if
if they can get because Judge Eileen Cannon,

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who's going to be the presiding judge
over this, she wasn't the magistrate

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for the arrangement, but she'll be
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herself or they can get her out. But I don't see that happening.

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wants. And if they can delay
this long enough for Trump to get back

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into the White House, then then
it goes away as soon as Trump's president

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again, if that happens. If
I am anyone, if that happens,

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and that's a very fair point,
that is what they're going to try to

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do. If I am Chris Christie, Rhonda Scantists, Nicky Haley, I

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am playing this card. These indictments
are rolling on. Can we put a

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man in power that his statusis president
over four years would be shrouded in such

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uncertainty. I would hammer that point
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Their favorite flavor of ice cream is
vanilla. Why, because vanilla never

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lets you down. Vanilla is today
as it was yesterday, right. I

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would I would question that though,
because how do you explain then, Conservatives

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going for Trump to begin with?
Because Trump Trump's never been stable. I

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mean, he seems less stable now, but he is a pied piper that

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I agree with. He was able
to give them a voice. His instability

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has given his supporters a comfort of
stability because it's normal for them to see

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this. Well, that's true.
He has normalized. He has been able

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to normalize some pretty outrageous stuff.
They all three of them. I'm hammering

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that home. I am hammering that
home. I'm hammering that right, Adam

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on the debate stage. Yeah,
well, what assurances can you give the

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American people? You can serve afore
year term and and I'm just keep hammering

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at home that these are serious,
serious issues. These documents were basically in

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a shoe box in Mara Lago.
How can we trust this man with national

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security? Well, now, in
fairness, so Kevin McCarthy did point out

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because many of them were in a
bathroom. In a bathroom door does have

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a lock on it? Uh yeah, I'm sure that was impenetrable. Well

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so far so um. Chris Christie
of course very directly hammering Trump on all

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of this, and Asa Hutchinson Chris
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yeah that, I mean, here's
the thing with him is his tagline is

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because the Truth matters right, And
to me, that's a shot not just

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at Trump, but against the conservative
hierarchy. Right now, he is saying,

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look, there there are severe issues
with what the American people is being

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told. He to me, he's
taking a shot at Fox News. He's

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taking a shot at McConnell, he's
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at anyone who supports Donald Trump.
And what I think these individuals need to

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do is they to gain that ultra
Bible Bell faith based constituents, they need

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to go ahead and start asking some
of the biggest conservatives they can to be

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running mates with them. Really,
if if I'm Chris Christie, this would

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never happen, never in a million
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earnings on it that this never happens. I would go to Mike Pence.

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and because you know this cannot happen
again. If I'm Rhonda Santis, I'm

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hitting up Mike Pence. If I'm
any of the big three that are going

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up against Trump right now, I
am trying to reach out to Mike Pence

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to at least gauge his level of
interest. Yeah, because that would really

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really gain the faith based vote for
that candidate. Because let's look at it

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like this, the faith based vote
really didn't buy into Trump until he had

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Mike Pence as his running me.
Once that happened, that's when they really

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bought in. Yeah. I think
it certainly helped. So I really think

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that if they were to do that, and then I think something clicks that

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here is a man that supported this
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and running. Why well, maybe
because this man's followers had gallows set up

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for him. Mike Pence is turning
and running. Yeah, Mike Pence is

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wants nothing to do with this man. I see. I don't see it

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that way. I think Mike Pence
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But I certainly don't think he's running
because he's still even though he acknowledged

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that Trump put and he said he
said the words himself. He acknowledged that

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Trump put his own that put Pence's
family in danger on January sixth, But

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then he also has plenty of effusive
praise for Trump still, you know,

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from a policy standpoint, which I
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To me, it's it's very it's
very unmanly to you know, after

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somebody puts his family in danger and
then he has anything nice to say about

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that person, I think is strange. I don't know. I don't know

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how his wife and his daughter is
gonna even look at him, to be

409
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:15,599
honest with you. But so he's
he's I think he's incrementally, to use

410
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:22,199
your analogy, I think he's incrementally
walking faster and faster away from Trump.

411
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,079
But I wouldn't say he's running.
I think there's a part of him that's

412
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:30,559
still. I think his heart still
belongs to Trump in some way, to

413
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:35,760
some degree. I guess three,
I think he's I don't think he would

414
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:42,400
ever publicly come out unless there was
an offer on the table, and that's

415
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:50,400
down the road, right. I
think privately he's done. Yeah, well

416
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,679
yeah, I mean he I'm sure
he doesn't. I'm sure he doesn't like

417
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:59,079
the guy, you know, self
attatched to Trump, I'm sure he has

418
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:05,719
advisors say this could actually hurt you
down the road. Anything you have planned

419
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,119
that you want to achieve, this
could end up hurting you. Yeah.

420
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,159
Well, I don't think Mike Pence
actually, I mean, he must know

421
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,320
he's not going to be the nominee. I'm sure he's just trying to sell

422
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,559
some books anyway. He knows he
has no chance. I mean, most

423
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:23,639
of these candidates must know they have
no chance whatsoever. Their only chance would

424
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:30,440
be if Trump ends up in such
legal peril that he has to drop out.

425
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,519
And I don't see that happening.
See, I think that that this

426
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:39,679
could get dragged out, but especially
with Judge Eileen Cannon. But Eric,

427
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,239
we have a call. Our friend
Ron is on the line. Hello Ron

428
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:51,079
a little minute. I know it
might be possibly off topic because I was

429
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,480
in mass and I'm just tuning into
the radio now. But you know,

430
00:37:53,559 --> 00:38:00,000
I was listening to probably Awekar with
somebody last night and got me thinking when

431
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:05,280
they said they had a caller call
in, and he sort of made a

432
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:12,079
good point. He was talking about
when they rated Mara Lago, the lawyers

433
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:15,599
were not allowed to watch and see
what's going on. It was all the

434
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:22,480
big. Nobody did an inventory of
what was taken out of there. No

435
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:28,360
cameras were allowed. So that guy
made a point that when Trump goes to

436
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:32,519
court or goes to trial, you
know, their lawyers could possibly say,

437
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:37,840
how can he get a fear trial? Who's to say something wasn't added that,

438
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,159
you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I know,

439
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:43,800
you know the majority of it is
a hundred percent true. But in the

440
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,000
eyes of the jury, when they
say beyond a reasonable doubt, that a

441
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:52,559
good lawyer might be able to prove
that beyond a reasonable out. So I

442
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:55,280
don't know what your thought is,
but I heard that last night and it

443
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,480
kind of caught my eyes. I
don't I don't think anyone on a jury

444
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:05,239
would fall that because Trump admits,
I mean, he admits he took everything.

445
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,440
Trump denies nothing. He just says, well, it was mine to

446
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:13,119
take. So I don't think that
strategy would even work in court. What

447
00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:16,599
do you think, Eric, No, I get where Ron's coming from here,

448
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:25,159
but got to understand something. These
documents were classified documents. You're not

449
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:32,239
gonna want video evidence of you removing
these classified documents from a premises that would

450
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:42,239
be looked at unfavorably your goal as
a federal agent is to build the best

451
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,000
case you have from the time you
begin the investigation to the time of decision

452
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:53,440
is made. Right, and the
worst thing they could do is anything that

453
00:39:53,519 --> 00:40:02,199
could be perceived as being something that
co violate national security, filming them,

454
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:07,599
removing documents that could easily be turned
as well. How can you trust the

455
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:12,599
FBI? Look at that they're filming
us. They're filming them, removing these

456
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:20,079
documents. There's these documents Clara's day
on videotape, So there's there is a

457
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:28,719
chess game being played here. And
if that's Donald Trump's strategy going this that,

458
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:32,639
who knows what they could have planned
it? Right? But he yeah,

459
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:35,760
but he, I mean, Trump
just comes right out and says,

460
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,119
no, it was yeah, I
took he didn't. Trump denies nothing.

461
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:45,079
So yeah, all right, See
that's a new perspective for the information.

462
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,079
I didn't go and didn't have.
That kind of contradicts everything that I heard

463
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,239
last night, even though last night, I mean I was sold. But

464
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,199
all right, thanks for your time, Thanks for your ron, your input.

465
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,519
I'm just gonna listen, all right, Ron, thank you so much

466
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:00,800
for the call, my friend,
Thank you, you got it. Bye.

467
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,599
Bye. Yeah, I uh And
obviously on Howie Car, you know,

468
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:08,920
they have a perspective and they're gonna
try to push h Are you familiar

469
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,000
with Howie Car, Eric, I'm
sure he's not syndicated in Iowa, but

470
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:17,599
I know you used to live in
the northeast. I am not familiar with

471
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:21,599
Howie Car. Oh, okay,
kind of a regional I mean, he's

472
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:23,320
don't get me wrong, I'm not, you know, trying to downplay his

473
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,440
success. He's very successful. He's
he has syndicated regionally, but I don't

474
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,559
I don't think he's probably heard outside
of New England, but he's he's got

475
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:37,320
kind of a New England accent too, so he probably wouldn't necessarily play well

476
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:39,519
outside of this, uh, this
part of the country. But you know,

477
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:43,119
very conservative, and you know,
I haven't listened to how He Car

478
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:46,079
in a long time, but I'm
I can imagine he's all about trying to

479
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:52,039
uh justify and rationalize and downplay what
Trump has charged with here and and all

480
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,719
of those uh kinds of arguments.
But no, I think though, I

481
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,239
think it's very possible that this drags
out that Judge Eileen can and helps make

482
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,239
sure that this drags out, and
like I said, if Trump is elected,

483
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,199
this goes away. And even if
even if Trump is convicted, convicted

484
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:13,559
of this, you know, she
might, I mean, she's going to

485
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,039
be in charge of sentencing. She
might. She might say, you know,

486
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:22,239
he's uh for his uh charges.
He's sentenced to say, I don't

487
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,480
know, eight to ten hours of
community service or something suspended. You know.

488
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:28,599
That way, he's not in convenience
at all, you know what I

489
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:36,440
mean. So the fix might already
be in in that regard. I agree,

490
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,960
but I don't know. I'm still
debating. I might end up caucusing

491
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,880
for Chris Christie if he makes it
that far. Oh no kidding, Okay,

492
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:52,239
yeah, I I seriously might.
Yeah. Yeah. We should remind

493
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,440
people anyone who doesn't know Eric that
you, you, of course, are

494
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:00,559
in Iowa, where the First of
the Nation caucus happens, and um,

495
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,880
I don't even know what's going to
happen with New Hampshire's primary. You know,

496
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,800
we've been first in the nation for
probably as long as I've been alive,

497
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,039
but uh, the DNC seems to
be trying to sabotage that and make

498
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:15,280
sure that it's South Carolina. But
then again, it's not gonna matter really

499
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,719
in terms of the Democrats, because
obviously Biden as a sitting president, he's

500
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,320
he's the incumbent. He'll, um, you know, he'll he'll certainly be

501
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:27,199
the nominee. Um. But uh, I was saying to Jenny, though,

502
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,920
I want to try to start getting
some of these other candidates on and

503
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,719
one of them is Mary Ann Williamson, who is also running for the Democratic

504
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,480
nomination, not that she has any
chance at all, but um, but

505
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,719
but she does go on some some
she goes on a lot of shows,

506
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,199
and I don't Jenny, I said, I'm sure we can get her.

507
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:45,880
I've seen some of the other shows
she goes on. I'm sure we can

508
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:51,039
get her. But but but she's
interesting, she's very smart. You know,

509
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,840
she didn't she didn't come off well
during the debates, uh in twenty

510
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,199
twenty. But that was not a
suitable format for her. But when I

511
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,920
see her in these interviews, she's
she's very smart and very articulate. But

512
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:04,360
uh, but again, you know, not that she has any kind of

513
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,400
a chance. Obviously Biden will be
the nominee. So you might caucus for

514
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:17,559
Chris Christie. Yes, I'm seriously
considering it interesting. Interesting, Um,

515
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,079
what do you think about Asa Hutchinson? And I ask about him because he

516
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:29,559
is someone who also is being very
critical of Trump and taking him on directly.

517
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,760
But he's he's much certainly much more
conservative than Chris Christie. And you

518
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,039
know, you you you yourself as
a conservative. I would think, um,

519
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,440
Asa Hutchinson, former governor of Arkansas, might be more in line with

520
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,440
you idiologically, although maybe not.
I don't know. Sometimes I wonder if

521
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:54,000
you're really begun investigating candidates yet.
Yeah, and he doesn't have as as

522
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:59,400
as much of a national profile as
Chris Christie does, so it's it's I

523
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,719
don't even know that much about him, to be honest with you. Yeah,

524
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,039
so I really need to start doing
that honestly. Yeah. Yeah,

525
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,880
Well, you know, some people
might start dropping out before we even get

526
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,280
to the Iowa caucus, says,
so many candidates in the field. But

527
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:20,159
but it's always interesting, you know, every four years to see how many

528
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,760
dropout right after Iowa. Some of
them don't even make it to New Hampshire.

529
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,119
And then of course after the New
Hampshire primary, a bunch more dropout,

530
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:30,280
and then you've got a small field. Oh, we have a call

531
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,079
we're actually getting close to the top
of the hour, and I do see

532
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,760
our guests are in the hallway,
so we're gonna be bringing them in shortly.

533
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,119
But we'll see who's on the line
here. Hi, Welcome to Matt

534
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:45,920
Connerton Unleashed. Who's this Hello?
Hello, Hey, it's Rudley. Hey,

535
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:49,239
Dave Ridley. What's up? Hello? This? Well of that?

536
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,519
Uh huh, well, we've got
this sure. Well, we've got Eric

537
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:57,840
Pilcher with us on Skype all the
way from the great state of Iowa,

538
00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:02,280
and we've been talking about Trump's legal
woes. I don't know if you have

539
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,920
any input on that. Yeah,
I'm I'm trying to listen on speaker dot

540
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,480
com and it sounds like there's about
a forty five minute delay. So I

541
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:13,920
was just oh when I when I
started listening, it was just showing me

542
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,400
the beginning of the show. So
I'm behind. Sorry, Oh, okay,

543
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,719
no problem. Well we're we're actually
uh yeah, go ahead, Yeah,

544
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,800
if I can only talk about that, Dune, I can talk about

545
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,280
that. But I was calling in
about a Ukraine related thing. What what

546
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:29,960
what? What do you think I
should talk about? Uh? Well,

547
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,159
whatever it is, it's gonna have
to be quick because we're we're already approaching

548
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:37,199
the top of the hour. So
uh, I'll let you choose, but

549
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,760
just make it quick and pithy,
please. So in in nineteen eighty three,

550
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,719
there was a nuclear scare that almost
led to World War three. Uh.

551
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,320
And it was a result of something
that's going on right now. Uh.

552
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,639
And in addition to the Ukraine crisis, and that is a major NATO

553
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:58,599
exercise. Oh, able Archer,
you're talking about able arch Yeah, yeah,

554
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:02,280
yeah, yeah, it's mostly That's
part I'm thinking about is the air

555
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,480
wing of it. That there's a
big air exercise going on right at the

556
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,920
same time that Ukraine is launching one
of those World War One style offensives.

557
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:17,159
Okay, And so Reforger was Reforger
was a near miss. And this is

558
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:22,119
just I call about this because hardly
anyone talks about this stuff. It's just

559
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:28,559
everyone's in denial. But um,
but a war exercise of this type of

560
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,400
maneuvers are a very serious matter that
often lead to close close encounters with nuclear

561
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,079
war misunderstanding. I think that you
know, right now, you would think

562
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:42,079
the nation would be on high alert
if all this stuff is going on,

563
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:45,639
But actually everyone's just wondering around their
lives that you would expect in denial as

564
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:51,079
usual. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
But you do raise a great point,

565
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,960
all right, Dave. I appreciate
the call. Go ahead and give something

566
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,840
a plug if you'd like, and
then we gotta we gotta scoot. Oh,

567
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,320
I will plug concept. And that's
the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear

568
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,719
Weapons. Look it up, HEPNW
Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons.

569
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,360
Okay, I will look that up, all right, Dave Ridley. Thanks.

570
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,400
Interesting it says some people are actually
making some progress. Okay, okay,

571
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:17,119
interesting, all right, Dave Ridley. We appreciate the call. Thank

572
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:21,079
guys. All right, take care
Dave. Um, Eric, it's been

573
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:23,599
a wonderful discussion as always, but
we need to wrap up with you as

574
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:28,880
well. Um. But do you
want to give the Classic film review a

575
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:34,079
plug for this Friday? This week
is the delayed one. It is the

576
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:38,079
film noir thriller The Night of the
Hunter. Ah. Yes, a film

577
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:43,360
that I definitely have not seen,
so that that looks interesting, So that

578
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,559
will be will be this Friday.
Very good, very good, very good.

579
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,760
All right, Eric, Well,
we gotta run, but I always

580
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,000
enjoy the discussion. I always look
forward to Wednesdays and thank you for thank

581
00:48:55,039 --> 00:49:00,199
you for skyping in and looking forward
to the film review on Friday. No

582
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,639
problem, all right, my friend, have a good day as well.

583
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,320
Alright bye, all right, very
good. That was our friend Eric Pilcher

584
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,079
all the way from Cedar Rapids,
Iowa. And we're gonna go ahead and

585
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:13,800
play a track, and then I'm
gonna get Aaron and we'll see who we

586
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,599
brought with him. And they do
have instruments, so they are going to

587
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:20,719
be playing live in studio, so
we'll get them in here and set up.

588
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,440
But in the meantime kind of need
a longer song for the change over,

589
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,239
so I'm gonna play this. This
is a track called Infinity Spinning from

590
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,559
Andrew North and the Rangers. They
are our musical guests tomorrow, and then

591
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,039
we'll show some love to our amazing
sponsors and then we'll come back. Aaron

592
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:39,599
will be here and we'll hear some
of some of what he's been doing.

593
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,840
And we've got some great studio tracks
that Aaron sent me as well, so

594
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,840
but in the meantime, here it
is. This is Infinity Spinning from Andrew

595
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,039
North and the Rangers. Check this
out, and there's plenty more Matt Connerton

596
00:49:52,159 --> 00:50:37,119
Unleashed to come. Don't go anywhere. Hello everybody, welcome back as we

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00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,719
cruise into our second hour new Merrow
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599
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,920
Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven
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go to my website Matt Connerton dot
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It is Wednesday, June fourteen,
two thousand and twenty three. And uh,

604
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,760
we've got some let me pull that
mic up there, we got some

605
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,280
music for you here. Aaron Billado
is here, and uh, Aaron has

606
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:21,760
been on the show before with Hue
the Gecko. But yeah, yeah,

607
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,960
but you are back to perform some
solo material for us. And is that

608
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,000
the name of your project? Do
you just call it? Aaron Billado is

609
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:35,599
yeah, okay, And if if
people think Aaron sounds funny, it's we've

610
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:37,880
got We've got a mic up to
Uh do have the mic? Yeah,

611
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,760
I got the right mic on there. Okay, so Eric has Aaron rather

612
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,400
Um. You can't see it if
you're just listening on the radio, but

613
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,159
you can see the video if you're
online. He's got a whole You've got

614
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:52,639
a whole loopin set up there,
don't you. Yeah, yeah, so

615
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,559
this will be cool. So what
we're gonna do is Aaron's gonna play a

616
00:51:55,559 --> 00:52:00,320
set for us five songs, I
think, right, and then afterward we'll

617
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,280
play a studio track and uh we'll
let Aaron get comfortable, and then we'll

618
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,280
chat for a bit. Really looking
forward to this, but I'm without further

619
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,480
ado Aaron, if you want to
introduce the songs or however you want to

620
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,840
do it as you go, I'm
just dying to hear you play, so

621
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,039
I will turn it over to you, my friend. All right, my

622
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:53,719
name is Aaron Bodo, and this
song is called Witches in the Windy.

623
00:53:00,480 --> 00:54:08,679
Don't get sit the sin still has
watch, which is still which is dead

624
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:44,559
to you to wish you to me. However, for you little wisdom,

625
00:54:46,400 --> 00:55:51,000
sires and fire, we should say
yeah, very nice. If you're in

626
00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:53,480
the wind. If he's joining us, Aaron Billado is here performing live for

627
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:58,840
us. Very cool, very cool. Alright, alright. This song is

628
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:27,480
called mess. Find it on my
album Destroyer. When to close my my

629
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:37,719
shimmer brain subscribe, I like press
builds in the builds when you tronoin closed

630
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:45,800
my legs and the mys and my
brain starts crying almost side of the pressure

631
00:56:45,840 --> 00:57:24,519
with the bills in the hid for
you. I live it all you please

632
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:58,039
my dream close my legs mush and
my brain has to ride to roll outside

633
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:04,000
like a little way the pressure and
builds in a booth in the room one

634
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:09,599
day lit lamble of my face and
bus my brain sas fry I room onside

635
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:22,159
a little blue freshman business in a
build one deal behind one day, I

636
00:58:22,360 --> 00:59:38,480
did are you day? I leave
it up for you. Don't leave m

637
00:59:38,719 --> 01:00:10,280
h very nice. Jenny really likes
that one. Thank you. J don't

638
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:31,239
don't get here. They burn the
build up hand and put it do man,

639
01:00:32,239 --> 01:00:42,280
build up hand and put it to
the cant do it laid a hand

640
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:54,920
and put it down. Can put
it down then and don't care it don't

641
01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:01,320
take down to the down. Gonna
be gonna be who down, It's gonna

642
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,039
be gonna get broke down, is
gonna be gonna be broken down, is

643
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:15,000
gonna be down, ain't gonna be
cool down. It's gonna be gonna gun

644
01:01:15,079 --> 01:01:22,000
tower down, is gonna be gonna
down. It's gonna be gonna downs downas

645
01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:35,360
gonna be down. Is gonna put
there to bail up down, put it

646
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:45,280
down there up, put it down
on there, put down. It's gonna

647
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:51,760
be donagam down. It's gonna be
gonna get It's gonna be closet down,

648
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,320
is gonna be gown down? Is
gonna be good? Are you gonna be

649
01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:45,559
getting reported down? Okay? Destroy
okay destroy stick songs called doing laundry.

650
01:02:46,119 --> 01:03:00,039
Oh, I like this one a
lot. I've heard the studio vers to

651
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:44,480
make lunge to belong us a visit
the fenusree o that room. Don't degree

652
01:03:45,559 --> 01:04:03,920
baby is. It's not like it
goes away. To let it rule in

653
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:33,360
your day medicaid and meditake crushing your
bones out we lone, it's not like

654
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:40,159
it goes away. Don't let her
rule a new day medicaid and meditake crushing

655
01:04:40,280 --> 01:05:32,480
your bones and well loan three doing
this time everyone time disser me. It's

656
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:50,440
it's it's like it goes awake little
room when you take magic and then take

657
01:05:51,199 --> 01:06:12,920
you to see preside. Nice.
I like that one a lot, Thank

658
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,800
you? Thank you? Was that? Yeah? One more? Yeah?

659
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:21,280
I have one more? All right, let's see here. This is where

660
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:32,519
I take it down. You get
a little relaxed, Yeah, and breathe.

661
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:08,360
I'm just trying to chill. M
h. But nothing seemed. I

662
01:07:08,519 --> 01:07:19,880
watched my fishing in my room,
but it doesn't seem to work. It

663
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:48,679
doesn't seem to work. Awaken,
Chi. It's so beautiful outside today.

664
01:07:53,039 --> 01:08:43,840
Maybe I should go out wicked.
Yeah, it's almost done. Almost three.

665
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:54,680
Thank you, very nice, very
nice. Aaron Billadou is here,

666
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,479
everybody, and thank you for coming
in and playing for us live. Thank

667
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,039
you for having me. It was
great. Should we introduced the Gentleman news

668
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:01,800
with you? Or does he not
want to be? I don't know if

669
01:09:02,039 --> 01:09:04,960
h oh, yeah, you're you're
here? All right? Cool? We've

670
01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:10,840
got uh you might remember him kind
of a legendary appearance. Why isn't that

671
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,880
Oh? I know why? Sorry? Wrong, Mike? There we go.

672
01:09:13,039 --> 01:09:15,520
Those headphones there too, if you
want them, sure, but uh,

673
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:18,720
the last time you were on you
brought some calls. You might remember

674
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,680
it. Was fun. Hue the
Gecko is here too, great time.

675
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:28,319
Yeah, yeah, absolutely here like
that fun absolutely And uh, speaking of

676
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:30,319
calls, if you'd like to join
us, if you have any questions or

677
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:32,479
feedback or anything at all for our
guests, uh six O three two five

678
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,800
h six O seven. The studio
line is open six zho three two five

679
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:40,920
oh six O seven. And um, Aaron, how do you um?

680
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,039
For somebody who hasn't heard your music, how do you describe it to be?

681
01:09:44,119 --> 01:09:46,600
Everyone always hates this question, but
I mean what you're doing is is

682
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,399
unique. I mean do you do
you just call it experimental? Yeah,

683
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:54,319
pretty much experimental. I'd play a
lot of funk rock, a lot of

684
01:09:54,359 --> 01:09:59,199
electronic stuff is uh yeah, put
into it? Yeah, and um,

685
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,600
you've got again we should describe for
those Well, I'll let you do it

686
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:09,159
if you can just kind of describe
your setup for obviously people who are watching

687
01:10:09,239 --> 01:10:13,560
online on Facebook see my live set. Yeah yeah, yeah, because it's

688
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,439
always when when you do your solo
stuff, it's always just you right right,

689
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,279
it's yeah. So far yeah yeah. I played one show so far,

690
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,520
and that was Getcko Fest and I
had Huey the Gecko on stage with

691
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,840
me at the time. So yeah, you know, so this is like

692
01:10:29,279 --> 01:10:32,159
my second kind. I'm playing out
Oh wow, my solo stuff. Yeah,

693
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:36,520
oh cool. It's kind of difficult
for me to book gigs because people

694
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:42,359
want bands. Yeah, if I
had a drummer, um right, be

695
01:10:42,359 --> 01:10:45,159
able to get more gigs. But
uh, you know, I'm plugging away.

696
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,720
Yeah yeah, is it? Um? I would imagine it's challenging to

697
01:10:49,399 --> 01:10:55,039
because you have to construct all of
that all of that audio that is playing

698
01:10:55,119 --> 01:10:57,840
while you're playing the bass, so
you can focus on playing the bass and

699
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,920
singing. I mean, is it
is that a great deal of work to

700
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,399
do that? Uh? Well,
I mean not really for me. It's

701
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,279
it's just my pleasure, you know. I love doing it. It keeps

702
01:11:06,359 --> 01:11:10,159
me up all night and I put
I play a lot of instruments that play

703
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:14,960
drums. I played keyboards yeah yeah, and but my main instruments based going

704
01:11:15,079 --> 01:11:16,760
way back. Yeah, yeah,
all the way back to like the old

705
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,640
days, like a change of season. Is that the band you were in

706
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,600
when I first met Season? Yeah, I feel like I feel like there

707
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,039
was a band before that. No, there was a band after that.

708
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,760
Because you've been isolated sequence with Auto, I remember that. Yeah, yeah,

709
01:11:30,039 --> 01:11:31,880
but what was there something before a
change of season? There was a

710
01:11:32,119 --> 01:11:36,079
band I was in before in Manchester
called Perfectly Normal. I don't know if

711
01:11:36,079 --> 01:11:40,079
you heard that one, that might
be what I'm thinking of. Um yeah

712
01:11:40,199 --> 01:11:43,760
yeah, those those were my three
early days. Yeah yeah, yeah,

713
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,640
in my twenties. Yeah. Yeah, you've been in uh, you've been

714
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,279
in a lot of bands. Okay. So so then there was a change

715
01:11:48,319 --> 01:11:51,359
of season and then isolated sequence and
then what was after that? I had

716
01:11:51,399 --> 01:11:55,760
a band called Hall of Drone back
in twenty fifteen, and that I had

717
01:11:56,039 --> 01:12:01,000
Alfredo, uh and that he just
uh got to New Hampshire from California like

718
01:12:01,159 --> 01:12:05,399
brands Banking New and uh my cousin
knew him, so she used us and

719
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:10,560
uh yeah we did that for a
little while and then uh I learned how

720
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,119
to play keyboards and danks and Entra
picked me up and I did that for

721
01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:17,760
like, uh like eight months or
so. That was great and uh uh

722
01:12:19,079 --> 01:12:23,479
as soon as that ended, I
had a lot of time to um do

723
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,840
my own album. I had it
scheduled for almost a year. Yeah.

724
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,560
I like to schedule my my albums
like nine months out. It puts a

725
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,479
deadline, yeah, you know,
and it forces me to do it.

726
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,840
Yeah, you know, I knew
I was gonna put one out in the

727
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:40,319
fall, but like, uh,
I didn't know what I was gonna do.

728
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,880
Yeah, it just uh it really
I put that out Destroyer together in

729
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,079
two months. Oh no kidding.
Okay, where do you record? Do

730
01:12:46,119 --> 01:12:50,159
you just? I do it all
myself. Yeah, I mean that's that's

731
01:12:50,359 --> 01:12:53,560
a lot to do on your own. But I would imagine it's also kind

732
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:58,279
of freeing because you're not You're not
depending on anybody else. It's all when

733
01:12:58,319 --> 01:13:01,119
it's all you. Frustrating though,
because like I don't always have instruments,

734
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:04,920
Like I don't have a I don't
play guitar very well. Yeah. Yoh,

735
01:13:05,119 --> 01:13:10,359
so like I don't even own like
I have an acoustic guitar and a

736
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,199
dot Bro. Yeah that's it,
you know. Like so like all my

737
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:16,399
stuff is uh, I have to
improvise and fill in with like keyboards and

738
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:21,640
other other things. Yeah. Yeah. Um, somebody's asking, Oh I

739
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:26,319
plus Michael's Law, which is an
odd name, but they're from Greensboro,

740
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:31,159
North Carolina. Uh Aaron Bildau.
We say who are your influences? We

741
01:13:31,399 --> 01:13:36,960
say who is your favorite recording artist? Hashtag Matt Connerton. We ask him

742
01:13:38,039 --> 01:13:42,000
a question already, that's how they
talk in Greensboro. But yes, who

743
01:13:42,039 --> 01:13:45,680
are your influences? Oh man,
there's just so many. Yeah, you

744
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,039
know, when you're a musician,
like I go way back, like like

745
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:53,079
right, yeah, I got White
Zombie. I used to love electronic bands

746
01:13:53,119 --> 01:13:56,880
like God Lives Underwater back in the
day. Oh yeah, I'm stabbing Westward

747
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,079
like um, Gravity Kills. Those
were all like influences Nine inch Nails and

748
01:14:01,159 --> 01:14:04,279
stuff like that. And then it
started playing bass. Yeah. Um,

749
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:10,119
so obviously all the bass players,
all Jocko and all the greats and then

750
01:14:10,399 --> 01:14:13,359
uh you know, Less Claypool and
all that. Yeah, and then uh

751
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,880
yeah, I mean it's just developed
into what I do now. Yeah,

752
01:14:16,079 --> 01:14:20,039
many years of playing yeah, um
yeah, I mean you're you've always been

753
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,039
a very impressive bass player, you
know, thank you. It seems like

754
01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:28,800
you can kind of do anything right
like you well, I mean on the

755
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,359
bass. It's like I watched the
way, you know, some of the

756
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,359
runs that you do and the popping
and the slapping and um, you know,

757
01:14:34,399 --> 01:14:39,039
I'm a bass player myself, so
so I I I observe your bass

758
01:14:39,079 --> 01:14:41,920
playing and I'm just like, oh
my god, how does he do that

759
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,880
it was first of right, Yeah, I played bass, and I played

760
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,600
bassicly yeah, an iotas and everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

761
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,079
was in a bunch of but you
know, my bass playing is very you

762
01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:55,880
know, like bands wanted to play
with me because I you know, I

763
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,479
was kind of a business guy and
you know, and that kind of thing.

764
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,279
It had nothing to do with my
bass playing. But um, but

765
01:15:00,399 --> 01:15:03,520
I did play. You did the
job I did. I did the job.

766
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,680
Yeah yeah, I mean it wasn't
but I can't do what you do.

767
01:15:06,199 --> 01:15:09,319
That's why I like, I look
at what you do. I look

768
01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:11,560
at what you doing. I'm like, oh my god, how do how

769
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,640
do his fingers move that fast?
Yeah, it's just called twenty years of

770
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,680
playing. Yeah. Yeah, you
know, if you if you get a

771
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,600
little better, yeah yeah, better
get better. Yeah yeah. I always

772
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,960
put it down exactly So you're not
so you're not currently in a band.

773
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,159
You're just doing the solo thing.
And of course you work with and you

774
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:30,119
work with Hughey sometimes, right sometimes. Yeah. We put an album back

775
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:35,520
out a couple of months ago called
Pink Chicken. The colab Random Collision was

776
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:40,039
good too. Oh yeah, so
he's he appears on my album Destroyer on

777
01:15:40,199 --> 01:15:45,239
the song random Collision. Oh okay, doing what playing guitar? Playing guitar

778
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,800
and doing vocals? Oh very cool, very cool. Yeah. Um.

779
01:15:49,319 --> 01:15:56,239
Now I plus Michael's Law is asking
we hashtag Aaron Bilido. Have you never

780
01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:00,079
listened to the Thompson Twins back in
the eighties, We say to you,

781
01:16:00,279 --> 01:16:03,479
Aaron, No, but I'm gonna
have to the Thompson Twins. Yeah.

782
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,560
There. They had a huge hit
with a song called hold Me Now,

783
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,000
which you've probably heard you just so
remember it because it's one of those songs.

784
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,680
Oh yeah, yeah, close stay
with me. Yeah, there you

785
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,520
go. You got Yeah, you
couldn't exist on the on this planet without

786
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:25,319
hearing that song at some point.
Yeah, that was That was a big

787
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:30,039
Vanilli conversation. Uh oh yeah,
that's too funny. Yeah, absolutely,

788
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,920
Um, very good. So you
uh are now are you looking to So

789
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,359
you're not looking to get back into
a band, You're just you're focusing on

790
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,640
the solo, right right. I
want to try this for a while.

791
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,800
I've been I've been in a lot
of bands, you know, but I've

792
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,479
never been so I just want to
try something new. Yeah, you know,

793
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,479
like uh that that's what keeps me
going. Back in uh January.

794
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:56,000
First, I put an album out
called Zero Acid Burn and uh, it's

795
01:16:56,039 --> 01:17:00,520
a techno album and it's all acid
techno like in the style of the nineties.

796
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,600
And I used like old uh DR
seven seventy drum machines. It's it's

797
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:08,159
I used all hard gear for it. Oh really to do it, and

798
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,159
it was just it's great. It's
a one off. I don't think I'm

799
01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:14,039
gonna do another one, but I'm
gonna have to. That's on band camp

800
01:17:14,119 --> 01:17:15,199
too, right, I'm gonna I'm
gonna have to listen to that. I'm

801
01:17:15,319 --> 01:17:20,800
very curious. Auto Kinzill plays on
a song Nice Nice, Yeah, Auto

802
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:26,039
is amazing. How long did Isolated
Sequence go? That was? That was

803
01:17:26,159 --> 01:17:28,880
two years? Okay, it went
for a long time. It was pretty

804
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,000
good. He tends to, um. You know, I was in a

805
01:17:30,039 --> 01:17:33,720
band with him called Chemical Distance and
right right after Auto. Yeah, Auto

806
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,479
tends to He kind of moves from
one project to the next. But his

807
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,600
current project, Dust Profit, He's
been doing it for a little while.

808
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,159
He seems, Yeah, it's his
thing. I think he found it.

809
01:17:43,399 --> 01:17:46,319
He found something that really sticks.
And yeah, Jenny and I saw them

810
01:17:46,319 --> 01:17:49,479
at you know, when they played
Swarmy Fast and uh I think one other

811
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:55,239
show too. I saw them when
I was in Thanks Snatra we played with

812
01:17:55,399 --> 01:18:00,479
them dy Doom Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Just an Auto is

813
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,920
such a front man, I mean, you know, just real personality.

814
01:18:03,159 --> 01:18:05,720
Yeah. Absolutely. He's got a
great, great voice too. He's got

815
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:10,960
he's got that radio voice. Yeah
yeah, yeah, I know he's Yeah,

816
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,640
he's got a deep voice. Yeah. Um so you uh so you're

817
01:18:15,159 --> 01:18:18,119
trying to play more shows, so
you're having you're having trouble getting booked because

818
01:18:18,119 --> 01:18:19,960
you're not a full band. Is
that? Oh, I just don't I

819
01:18:20,119 --> 01:18:23,239
really don't know how to do it, you know. Yeah, I keep

820
01:18:23,279 --> 01:18:27,279
you know, you write the people
and just keep plugging away and keep plugging

821
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:30,079
away and sending his stuff. Not
everybody like kind of gets it right.

822
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:35,720
When you're a low key genius,
your humility has to super succeed or supersede

823
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,560
your genius. So you wouldn't be
low key a genius if you were not

824
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,640
humble. So your humility supersede you're
you know, your genius. So then

825
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,560
you kind of you know, like
you said, not everyone's gonna get that

826
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,600
right. They think you'd be loud
about your geniusness. But you're quiet,

827
01:18:53,119 --> 01:18:55,359
right right. I mean I've always
been the bass player, you know,

828
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,560
I've always been the guy like kind
of off to the side behind the singer.

829
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,079
Yeah, yeah, you know,
so I've I've never been I've never

830
01:19:01,119 --> 01:19:04,600
been the front man. I was. I was the front and played bass

831
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:10,279
and hollow drone for a little while. That was a real difficult and a

832
01:19:10,359 --> 01:19:13,800
little bit in the isolated sequence,
me and Auto like took turns doing that.

833
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:16,840
Okay, but this is my first
time ever doing this. I see

834
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,720
all these people you know, out
and about busting and playing there. Everybody

835
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,920
plays acoustic guitar. Yeah, you
know, it's super easy, and I'm

836
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,239
like, I could do that,
you know, I could just like if

837
01:19:27,399 --> 01:19:30,520
if I build a rig, you
know, small enough and mobile enough,

838
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,640
I can go anywhere with this power, Like give me, give me five

839
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:39,720
feet and uh I'll make it work. Yeah yeah, and yeah, and

840
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,840
it doesn't. It really doesn't take
up much room. No, yes,

841
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,199
I should for for people watching online, I should put the camera back on

842
01:19:47,279 --> 01:19:49,760
it for a minute so people can
see. Yeah, I mean it's got

843
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,199
uh yeah, it's it's it really
doesn't take up much space at all.

844
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:59,039
And I got a thumb drive into
the board. That gives me all my

845
01:19:59,119 --> 01:20:01,039
backing tracks. Yeah, and it
gives me the click and everything because I

846
01:20:01,079 --> 01:20:03,800
need I need a click when you
when you're playing with backing tracks. Yeah,

847
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,840
yeah, you know, And that's
really it. I only really need

848
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:13,560
the voice process that A destroyers give
me the robot right right, I'm figuring

849
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,920
out it's a work in progress.
Yeah, well where does the name destroyer?

850
01:20:17,039 --> 01:20:19,439
Like? Why did you decide to
call with that? So? I

851
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:24,880
have a daughter and her name is
Nora, which is my name backwards Aaron

852
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:29,279
backwards, Okay, and uh she's
uh, you know, she's a handful

853
01:20:29,319 --> 01:20:33,119
and she's been nicknamed Nora the Destroyer
and uh I was playing that song one

854
01:20:33,159 --> 01:20:35,720
day when I was, you know, first recording it and I was playing

855
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,239
it and I'm like, what do
you think of this is? She loved

856
01:20:39,279 --> 01:20:43,760
it and uh she's only seven.
Um, and I asked, what do

857
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,640
you what do you think we should
name it? And she said you should

858
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:50,960
call it destroy or destroyer. I
was like, holy, you know that

859
01:20:51,119 --> 01:20:57,239
was amazing. Uh, So I
named it after her, basically very cool,

860
01:20:57,359 --> 01:21:00,399
you know, Nora the Destroyer.
Uh, people don't fall far from

861
01:21:00,399 --> 01:21:04,319
the tree. She's she's great she's
playing a little bit of keyboards too,

862
01:21:04,399 --> 01:21:09,560
He's gonna say she musically in is
Yeah, and my son and my son's

863
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:14,319
all into sports. He's a baseball
player. Okay. Uh so no music

864
01:21:14,399 --> 01:21:17,560
for him? Uh no, no, no, he turned next. Yeah,

865
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,119
we'll see. But his thing is
baseball. He he lives baseball in

866
01:21:21,159 --> 01:21:24,640
the Red Sox. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and and playing.

867
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:30,279
Um, now, do you have
plans to uh? Because this this album

868
01:21:30,319 --> 01:21:31,920
has been out for a little while, right right, I put it out

869
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,760
back in October. Okay, are
you already working on the next one or

870
01:21:36,199 --> 01:21:40,199
yeah, well that's gonna be out
in November. I think, like twenty

871
01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:45,039
November twenty second. I think I
don't know what it's gonna sound like,

872
01:21:45,319 --> 01:21:46,479
but I'm gonna have it done.
You know, I've done it for the

873
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,840
last four albums. Yeah, so
yeah, that I mean that's my plans.

874
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:54,800
Um. Yeah, At first I
did, I had no plans on

875
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,239
playing this album live at all,
really, And then I did a couple

876
01:21:58,319 --> 01:22:00,239
more like I said, I did
Techno one album, I did the Pink

877
01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:03,680
Chicken album and with Huey and then
um, I just you know, I

878
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:06,319
was playing along in my album.
I'm like I could do this. I

879
01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:10,640
just kind of make the tracks and
go back into Ableton and pull out all

880
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,800
the bass, you know, and
pull out all the vocals and make a

881
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,840
click and yeah, you know it's
doable. Oh so in a way,

882
01:22:16,079 --> 01:22:18,760
in order to play out live in
a way, you had to remix the

883
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,720
album. Yeah, yeah, in
a sense, yeah, yeah, some

884
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,359
of the some of the backing vocals
I had to pull out or put bring

885
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,560
real way down. Yeah yeah,
no, that makes sense. Yeah.

886
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,760
When we did Mess live at gecko
Fest, that was for me, my

887
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,760
favorite one, that one Mess.
Yeah, you know when the adrenaline builds

888
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,159
on that one hit, Yeah,
he really did, it really does,

889
01:22:39,239 --> 01:22:41,880
and then it comes in and it's
so that one was that was a great

890
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,119
show. Putting a little bit of
electric leads on top of it too.

891
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:48,319
It just that one really had some
energy. It has energy within it.

892
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,359
So it was like, oh and
then we pushed it a little further so

893
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,079
where we could go with the live
show was cool. Yeah. I mean

894
01:22:55,159 --> 01:22:59,960
I'm looking forward to like I'm gonna
get to the point like I can play

895
01:23:00,119 --> 01:23:02,920
the whole album and I can play
like a bunch of tracks off my first

896
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:08,039
album. Yeah, you talk got
like a good hour's worth. Oh yeah,

897
01:23:08,039 --> 01:23:10,399
you got a full set. Yeah, looking forward to that. Uh.

898
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,000
Dorothy George Opolis in the Facebook live
chat says no, Dorothy never would

899
01:23:15,079 --> 01:23:17,159
know. It's his first time striking
out on his own. Very talented and

900
01:23:17,399 --> 01:23:21,560
creative. Oh thank you, Dorothy, very nice. And I plus Michael's

901
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:28,600
Laws as hashtag Aaron billdo what's your
favorite the outfield song your Love or say

902
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,760
it Isn't So? Say it Isn't
So? Is that an outfield song?

903
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,239
Because because it's say it Isn't So
by Daryl holland John Oates, I wonder

904
01:23:36,279 --> 01:23:42,199
if I plus Michael's Law is a
little confused, but m yeah, um,

905
01:23:43,319 --> 01:23:45,840
what is so? What is Gecko
Fest? What? What is that?

906
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,000
It's a show that I'll let who
weeks wait it? So we uh

907
01:23:49,239 --> 01:23:54,760
we rented out the Conquered Grange.
Yeah. We worked together with a band

908
01:23:54,840 --> 01:24:00,239
that you've had here, Cricket Cash. Uh. We did the I guess

909
01:24:00,279 --> 01:24:03,800
the promotions in the event and you
all that behind the scenes work with Crooked

910
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:09,920
Cash. Then we were a little
bit some young guys because he went our

911
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,000
first, the behind the scenes,
the promotion and the setup and stuff.

912
01:24:13,039 --> 01:24:16,960
So Aaron is a veteran and he
kind of came in and uh, and

913
01:24:17,159 --> 01:24:21,600
know how we all worked together and
made this show obviously the arts as well,

914
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:26,960
So he came in and uh we
added him to that, and then

915
01:24:27,239 --> 01:24:31,640
we added we've been working in the
collab atmosphere, and I wasn't quite ready

916
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,760
to do Uh you're really exposed when
you're just a solo artist. Oh yeah,

917
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:40,520
So I wasn't right quite ready to
do that. So we just collaborated

918
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,720
for that night. Then I stepped
off. He did his thing on his

919
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:48,479
own, and the little duo combination
called Joint Adventure came in between and they

920
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,920
did a little acoustic and they give
us a little cool down and then then

921
01:24:53,119 --> 01:24:56,239
then we switched back to him and
then the two of us and then Crooked

922
01:24:56,279 --> 01:25:00,399
Cash did later on the evening,
and uh we had a couple of bands.

923
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,640
Yeah, everything's done in street trash. Yeah it was. It was

924
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:09,560
a good little night and it was
very successful evening successful and uh yeah,

925
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,800
I'm looking forward to do it again. We don't know we the location is

926
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,920
gonna change, but that's all on
the hushash. Oh okay, So I

927
01:25:17,159 --> 01:25:23,119
just recently came into an anchorage and
that's all the hush oh, an Achorage.

928
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:29,279
Very nice. Well yeah, if
you whatever shows in a different location

929
01:25:29,399 --> 01:25:32,359
soon, Oh, very cool,
very cool. Um. Now, how

930
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:36,439
often do you do you guys play
together a lot or just a little bit,

931
01:25:38,039 --> 01:25:40,960
just when we get together? Yeah, yeah, you know, sometimes

932
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,079
a couple times, I can.
Sometimes it's every other month. Oh okay,

933
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:46,479
all right, so yeah, not
not that often. Oh, I

934
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,880
plus Michael's loss at the outfield did
their own version of say it isn't so

935
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:56,439
interesting. I don't know. I
don't know if I plus Michael's laws uh

936
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,960
gets uh oh, Fredo is in
the chat room, by the way,

937
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,239
Fredo says, will there be either
I'm sorry, will there be a new

938
01:26:03,399 --> 01:26:10,319
either Gecko version of a King Crimson
song? Will there'll be a new version

939
01:26:10,359 --> 01:26:14,880
of a Gecko version of a King
Crimson song? I'm not I'm currently undertaking

940
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:19,880
projects of remix is uh we I've
I do like sometimes EDM like type of

941
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:25,680
electronic things. Yeah, but but
it's you know, always original, because

942
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,479
I have, like I said,
people like Aaron where you said he does

943
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,640
his bass, he does the keys, he does the beats. So when

944
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:35,159
we can make stuff from scratch,
why should we borrow? Right right right

945
01:26:35,279 --> 01:26:39,199
right? I mean I have done
covers in the past. I have nothing

946
01:26:39,239 --> 01:26:44,000
against Uh. You can't really like
find him on Apple Music of Spotify,

947
01:26:44,079 --> 01:26:45,479
but you can find him on YouTube. But when we have these things where

948
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,840
we call each other and we say, oh, you know, just doing

949
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,439
laundry, it doesn't have the same
effect of us having the little chuckles where

950
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,279
we know the it's like, oh, he knew the little thing behind the

951
01:26:55,359 --> 01:26:57,479
song, right, yeah, right, like yeah, like like if you

952
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,800
know, if you're feeling down,
you know, it's it's just another word

953
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,039
for depression to one laundry. Yeah, Or you're like, you know,

954
01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:05,960
when we got us plick up each
other's slack, it's like you're gonna kill

955
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,199
you my mess and it's like,
oh, I see what you did there.

956
01:27:10,039 --> 01:27:13,000
All the little insights from the albums, yeah, I don't know.

957
01:27:13,159 --> 01:27:15,239
With the original stuff, it's like
you can have a night where you all

958
01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:19,760
get together and you play like uh
some one artists, right, and everybody

959
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:25,319
plays a cover song from that guy
and you connect as as as individual musicians

960
01:27:25,399 --> 01:27:29,039
coming together. But when me and
Aaron connect on our clapp thing, it's

961
01:27:29,079 --> 01:27:31,800
like it's really hard to do your
like solo thing and his solo thing and

962
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:36,840
then somehow blend it right because I'm
weird so and and he's you know,

963
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:44,159
I'm weird too, I've been a
long time. That's tricky. Uh yeah,

964
01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:47,479
Fredo said the bass is dope on
laundry all right, thanks, really

965
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:51,119
likes that. Uh. He also
says that you and he did a Floyd

966
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:57,520
cover. Yeah, uh, Lucifer
Sam, Okay, you can buy that

967
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,319
on YouTube. It's on YouTube.
Yeah, yeah, cool. I don't

968
01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:03,079
want to pay for it to be
on Spotify, right, I understand.

969
01:28:03,119 --> 01:28:05,720
I mean I like the one he
played when I was here Frog Party that

970
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:11,199
Fredo's on. Fredo's part of Frog
Party is great, okay, okay.

971
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,640
Fredos also on a Lady on the
Shore. Oh okay, Oh yeah,

972
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,960
oh cool. I really love oh
very nice. Yeah. We're actually gonna

973
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,279
play that in a couple of minutes. We're gonna that'll be uh well,

974
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,199
that seems to be like my popular
one. Yeah. Oh cool, cool.

975
01:28:26,279 --> 01:28:29,319
Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing
that. Um yeah, so we'll

976
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:30,840
we'll play that in a couple of
minutes. Actually, so before we run

977
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,680
out of time, are and I
want to make sure that everybody knows where

978
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,039
to find you online, where to
keep up, where to find the music,

979
01:28:36,079 --> 01:28:39,439
where to keep up with everything you're
doing. I'm sure you're gonna have

980
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,319
more shows in the future and all
that stuff, and and and especially too,

981
01:28:43,399 --> 01:28:45,359
we want to make sure people know
how to spell your last name,

982
01:28:45,399 --> 01:28:48,279
because I'm sure some people struggling with
that. Yeah, yeah, no,

983
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:53,960
I mean you can. You can
find like everything on YouTube. I got

984
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:58,239
almost two hundred videos over over like
fifteen years. Oh wow, there,

985
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,520
so um everything is there. You
can just if you use Spotify, just

986
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:06,720
look up my name Aaron Villa O
B I L O D e AU Apple

987
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:11,159
Music. That's what I mean.
My wife use, our family uses yeah,

988
01:29:11,319 --> 01:29:14,560
and everywhere else. You just play
you know, a distro kid and

989
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,039
they put it on like thirty uh
thirty different platforms. Oh yeah, oh

990
01:29:17,159 --> 01:29:20,199
yeah. No. It's a lot
easier that it was back in the day.

991
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:25,000
The business has changed. It's incredible. It's incredible. There's so much

992
01:29:26,119 --> 01:29:30,439
ability to hear like everybody's music.
Yeah, you know, it's it's a

993
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,600
lot easier to record, yeah that
it used to be, and cheaper,

994
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:38,359
yes, oh yeah, you know, and then the quality is just fantastic.

995
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,560
So uh, it's amazing. Me
and my wife are always searching for

996
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,039
new people, new independent art.
It's all kinds of stuff. Yeah yeah,

997
01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:49,399
oh yeah, there's so music household, so much great talent out there.

998
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:54,319
And yeah, I just want really
add I love the artwork in the

999
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:58,640
cinematography, the filming, in the
way that Amy captures some of our Amy

1000
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:03,880
Amy does like percent of my first
for the artistic behind the scenes is invaluable,

1001
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,960
like so valuable. Where you go
wow, oh nice, yeah,

1002
01:30:08,039 --> 01:30:10,880
oh, very cool. It's hard
to put this stuff together. She does

1003
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,279
a lot of behind the scenes stuff. Excellent, excellent, oh, very

1004
01:30:14,319 --> 01:30:16,439
good, very good. And uh, Hue, where should people go to

1005
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,600
find go online to find Hue the
Gecko. Oh yeah, you just said

1006
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:25,000
it, say Hue. There's the
only one where you type it in it'll

1007
01:30:25,039 --> 01:30:27,880
it'll come up a lot faster than
my name. That's it. Yeah,

1008
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,199
it's very google noble, right,
that is uh, that is for sure.

1009
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,119
That is for sure. Well we're
gonna end with uh yeah, we'll

1010
01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:36,399
end with this track Lady on the
Lake, which which you said, oh

1011
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:39,600
Lady on the Shore. I'm sorry, Oh, Lady on the Lake is

1012
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,560
a movie, isn't it. Isn't
that a m Night Shaloman movie or something.

1013
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,039
It's like on Golden Yeah, Lady
on the Shore, right, And

1014
01:30:45,159 --> 01:30:47,680
you said, and this is about
Amy. Yes, it's a love song

1015
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,359
for my wife. Oh, very
nice, very nice. Yeah, So

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01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:54,359
we'll end with that. This is
also, uh, from the album.

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01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,840
This is from Oh no, this
is not from Destroyer. This is from

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Hello to Nobody? Is is that
your first is first of the first one?

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01:31:00,079 --> 01:31:03,279
Okay? Oh, very cool.
So this one goes back what when

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did this come out? Was that
came out of twenty one? Okay?

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01:31:06,359 --> 01:31:10,680
Oh so not that long ago.
Very cool, very cool. So we

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will end with this, and uh, if you miss any part of today's

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show, it'll be up in just
a little bit at WMH radio dot org

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01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:23,039
and at my website Matt Connerton dot
com. And thank you, thank you

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01:31:23,119 --> 01:31:26,279
again, thank you Aaron, thank
you for having me, thank you Hughey

1026
01:31:26,399 --> 01:31:30,319
and Amy, and thank you Eric
Pilcher for joining me in the first hour.

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And we will close with this.
This is Lady on the Shore by

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Aaron Abilidou. Check this out.
