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It's time for coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now here's Nick coffee.
All right, let's get it started here

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hour number three on a beautiful Monday
afternoon. Hopefully you folks had yourself as

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a good weekend, busy weekend here
in Louisville. Spring game on Friday.

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Looked like they had a great crowd
out there, which I love that.

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Maybe just because things have kind of
calmed down a little bit, we're not

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as a fan base at each other's
next as much as we were previously.

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But there was nobody at least that
I saw, you know, talking about

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the crowd, attendants trying to you
know, what's wrong with everybody. And

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I did say one point, I'll
never talk, you know, crowds again

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because I've always always just had a
difficult time understanding why people. You know,

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if you go to the game and
we all want there to be great

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crowds, great atmosphere, it's good
for everybody involved. But like if you're

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at the game and you notice some
people aren't there, like you know,

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there's five empty seats you know,
to in the section to your right,

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like letting that impact your excitement.
It just I don't get that. And

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the conversation oftentimes about attendance is about
people not an attendance rather than focusing on

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those that are an attendance. But
you know, I hate the attendance conversations

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and I'm hopeful that over time everybody
just realizes that things have changed. And

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if you've got a big game,
you know, like a Notre Dame come

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in to town or something like that, or a ranked opponent, maybe a

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game where conference a regular season championships
on the line, you're going to see

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a packed out at at Ellen N. Cardinal Stadium. But like when they

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play I don't know, Jacksonville State, whoever it is one of these FCS

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teams, it's not going to be
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those other games I mentioned. And
that doesn't mean anybody did anything wrong.

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That's normal. But anyways, I
was impressed by the amount of people that

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did show up for a you know, not a real game, and there's

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not a whole lot to take from
a spring game, but it is your

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chance to see new players that transferred
in And I did share some of my

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thoughts from the scrimmage earlier in the
show if you guys missed it and it

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wasn't as if I had some real
groundbreaking analysis. You know, I think

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Tyler Shuck looks looks like, you
know, looks like a guy that you

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could certainly believe had a lot of
success when healthy, and he just hasn't

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been able to stay healthy throughout his
career. And here's to hoping that this

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is the year he stays healthy.
And if so, I think he could

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have a monster season. I mean, he's got a big arms, got

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the size, and if Jeb Brown
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then that's that's enough. Me Like
to see Pierce Clarkson out there second

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string reps, I'd say he's gonna
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lot of quarterbacks on the roster too. By the way, there's some belief

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that maybe they end up losing one
of these scholarship guys to the portal,

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just because at this point, you
know, if you've not made some movement

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on the depth chart, he would
make sense for you to leave. And

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let's be honest, man, like, there's two dudes on this team that

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are probably looking to be third string
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Brady Allen, who followed Jeff from
Purdue. I mean, I think

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he looked pretty good in the spring, but still not a guy that I

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think you would expect to be starting
games for you. Harrison Bailey, who

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started his career at Tennessee, was
a top ten quarter might have been top

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five quarterback out of high school.
Goes to UNLV and then ended up at

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Louisville last year. So we'll see
if they end up losing some guys.

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But I thought Tyler shuck, you
know, for at spring game. You

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know, you can see why Bram
has a lot of belief in him,

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and really we'll never know, right
if he stays healthy, maybe he's a

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pretty average quarterback. But you also
could see a scenario where if he did

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stay healthy, you know, he
may have been one of the better quarterbacks

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in the Pac twelve, maybe one
of the better quarterbacks in the Big twel

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last year when he was at Texas
Tech. Offensively, I know they want

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to add some depth upfront on the
offensive line. I think the guys they

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have they feel really good about,
but you always need depth, especially at

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that position and at the receiver spot. I'm just I'm curious who's going to

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be like the guy and maybe sometimes
you can do it by committee. I

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mean, in fact, maybe you
can't. And I know you've seen teams

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do about committee and not have like
a superstar that's just so much better than

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everybody else. And last year we
had that guy and that was Jamari Thrash

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And I don't think you're going to
replace him because I think he was that

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special, especially when he was healthy. But you know, I just I

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wouldn't be shocked if we end up
finding out that they're maybe prioritizing another receiver

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in the portal here and at running
back. We'll get to that in just

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a second. But the guys that
I did see, and again it's just

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a spring game, but I think
the Miami transfer who again name continues to

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sc me. And this is one
of those things where like John doesn't know

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who the hell he is. He
can't bail me out here. He doesn't

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know who the backup running back at
Miami last year was, nor should he.

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But anyways, the running back room
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mean, i'd say you don't have
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be you know, really really good, especially at this level. But I

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know Isaac Brown the freshman, and
you never want to have to rely on

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a true freshman at running back.
But he's I think he's pretty damn good.

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In fact, I think he's a
guy that despite being a freshman,

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I expect to get some carries this
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other running back I mentioned that I
couldn't think of his name, the Miami

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transfer, Donald Cheney. You know, wouldn't be shocked if he's your main

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guy this year. I love Kewan
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He's a kid from Georgia. They've
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the other run and Mary's turner also
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get a lot of reps who's been
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big addition in the portal in in
the h after the season ended was Penny

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Boon, the transfer from Toledo and
he announced last week that he was transferring

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and you know, yeah and yes, you heard that correct. He transferred

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to Louisville in January, only then
transfer last week. For I'd say the

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reason, according to himself, was
money. Don't know if he just thought

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he'd get more money thought he was
worth more than they gave him, took

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a deal and felt like it was, you know, not the right deal,

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so he wanted more money. Like
I don't even know how that works,

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Like I've never even once thought about
this scenario, but I guarantee you

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it happens. And that's like a
player that is currently locked into some NIL

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arrangement during the season or you know, maybe just during the school year and

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the portal's not open yet and they
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for but like I'm sure they just
say, you know, I mean,

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like I've never even once thought about
that, but you know that has to

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happen, right John, Like guy's
already there being paid, but then they've

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you know, they've talked to somebody
who's getting this at this school and may

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want more money. Like how do
you how do you deal with that?

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That's that's a lot. I mean, the right way to deal with it

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is just you know, oh,
surely that's what they're doing for the most

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part. Yeah, And this is
where this is where there's nobody really to

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blame for this. I just think
this is the situation that we're in.

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And what I mean is coaches can't
tell you or not, and are not

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supposed to tell you the amount of
money right they In fact, I'm not

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even really sure what they can tell
you. I'm sure they cross that line

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because right now there doesn't really there's
there's no rules seemingly that that people are

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following. So if you go to
a coach like during spring practice or maybe

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during the season, and you're like, hey, I need to talk to

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you any more money like that coach
would probably tell you to go home,

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like you know one, because he's
going to tell you he can't talk about

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that. Also, he's probably gonna
be bothered that you even thought about that

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when you're supposed to be like it's
it's probably a reminder to coaches and they

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know this, but it's a real
direct reminder right in their face that like

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this game is, it's not what
it once was. The job is different

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now. But like if they go
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I mean the collective, you know, can't just I mean there has to

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be some level of understanding that like, once you are into this deal,

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like this is what it is.
But even if they have that arrangement,

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you know people are because people are
gonna try to get more money any chance

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they can. But Penny Boone I
think made it clear he was leaving because

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of money, and I don't know
if he didn't have options elsewhere that were

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you know, worthwhile to him and
when it comes to compensation. But as

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soon as he hit the portal there
was interest. Obviously he was supposed to

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go to Seattle and visit Washington.
That visit never happened, and it sounds

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like that's over for reasons I don't
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think has happened that Old Miss.
I don't I think he was gonna visit

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Old Miss. I don't think a
planned visit has already you know, been

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canceled and didn't happen. But it
doesn't sound like there's a whole lot there.

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So now he's visiting Kentucky today.
And then the report from Rivals last

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night was that a return to Louisville
is still an option. So whatever Jef

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Brahm decides to do here, I
mean, I'm cool with it because I

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trust that he would make the right
decision for what makes the most sense for

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this team. But I also would
not be shocked at all if Jeff Brahms

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talked to Penny Boone for the last
time. I mean, that makes it

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sound as if I have information that
makes me believe that. I think any

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coach take Jeff rom out of it
if this kid transfers out and on his

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way out doesn't really handle it the
right way. And one of the things

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I haven't mentioned enough throughout the show
when we've talked about this today is that

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aliving a lot of things that have
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I mean his agent, which is
is from some you know, management

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group or whatever. It sounds like
they were behind the leaks, which was

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just I mean not just bad information
telling people that Louisville was in trouble with

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NIL, like they didn't have the
money that they that they get that the

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recruits I guess were told or the
transfers that were told they were going to

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get and that's just not true.
And either Penny Boone just lied about his

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NIL stuff and he wanted to justify
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like it was anything to do with
like wanting or worried about having to compete

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for the spot. But I just
have a hard time seeing that being salvaged

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at this point, but then again, you know, he's a talented player,

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and if Jeff Brown decided that he's
worth bringing back, then I think

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we should know that one Penny Boot's
pretty good player. But also, you

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know, maybe maybe the staff sees
sort of the departure in the mismanaging of

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it. In my opinion, maybe
they would see it as more of a

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more of an issue with his agent
than him directly. But if it was

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me, and again it's not,
I would tell him, you know,

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have a nice life, and you
know, we'll see it in November,

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like to say all that, then
to visit Kentucky the first visit after you've

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decommitted. I just think it's almost
impossible to think he'd be back at Louisville.

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But again, I guess we'll have
to have to wait and see it.

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And something that bothers me, and
maybe it doesn't happen as often as

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I think it does, is especially
in football, players transferring and their first

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thought is immediately go to the rival
school. I feel like it's because that

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they don't. The players these days
don't see rivalries for what people like us,

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and even even older than us,
see that kind of stuff as Yeah,

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No, you're right, but it
is weird to see it happen more

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often, at least from my perspective. I think sometimes it's clearly calculated.

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I think sometimes it could just be
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Kentucky is looking for a running back. They actually couldn't get a visitor on

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campus that was in the portal.
I don't remember who it was, but

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they kind of struck out with a
guy that they hoped to transfer in it

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running back, and then Pitty Boom
became available. So maybe, you know,

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but to me, there's always going
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you know what you're doing, right, Like Kentucky knows they're pursuing one

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of Louisville's players. And I think
Penny Boone, if he really feels a

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certain way about Louisvill, which he
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deleted stuff from his Instagram, then
I think he would be probably fueled to

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go to Kentucky, right, you
know, maybe they've got maybe they've got

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money for him. I don't know. All right, let's switch gears to

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basketball really quickly here, because a
lot of visitors in town over the last

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few days, and you know,
last week was a great week for Pat

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Kelcey throughout all the visitors, I
say all the visitors. It wasn't as

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if they had thirty players. But
you know, when you're trying to build

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an entire roster, you know,
from so far in the month of April

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they've had it looks like, actually
Terrence Edwards committed on April the second.

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Let's just get rid of him though, just because you know, and by

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the way, we're not getting rid
of him. He's the best player they've

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added at this point. And by
the way, he's going to join us

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on the show tomorrow at four thirty. But from April twelve to April twenty,

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that's eight days they hosted what looks
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of them are committed to Louisville.
Now two we are already committed prior to

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visiting. Those are the guys following
Kelsey from Charleston. But Javon Hadley and

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Ali Khalifa both committed last week.
And let's just stick with the transfer the

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transfers before we get back into the
Jaden Quainton situation. But a Bubba car

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Trey Ore probably not saying that right, sounded pretty good, thank you.

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I don't think I was far off. What I gotta do is just when

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I when I say it with such
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I not believe that I'm saying it
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it right when in fact, I
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I mean, I could get lucky
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he visited over the weekend, and
I've not heard much about you know,

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where he may end up. But
you know, they got him on campus,

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and I've honestly not even heard a
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considering. So maybe that means he's
he's close to uh, you know,

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Pick and Louisville. And I'm not
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know, this elite player that's going
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he's I mean, they need I
don't want to make it sound like they

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need. They they'll take anybody because
because they have, you know, such

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a desperation to fill the roster.
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think if they were to lay it, let's just say Corin Johnson, who

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by the way, also is another
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from Washington. Let's just say those
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commit this week. Let's say you
get Johnson tomorrow and you get Trey Or

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Wednesday. That would be I think
you'd have seven scholarship players, So more

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than halfway there. I think you'd
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could certainly change. Maybe you go
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to fill the rest of the roster. But what that would tell me to

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me, it's guys that maybe you
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but they're pretty good at just about
everything. I mean, Terrence Edwards is

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a guy that you could expect more
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that for years at James Madison and
even when he came off the bench,

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was the sixth man of the year
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was six man of the year but
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scoring when he was like a sophomore
maybe junior. So you know, I

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think he's a guy that would probably
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you know, Rain Smith. You
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anything other than shooting, but technically
you need that, and he's really good

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at shooting. James Scott is your
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raw, but man, he's a
rim runner and you throw it up near

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the rim, He's going to go
get it and dunk it. He can

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block shots too. You know,
Hadley I think is the jack of all

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trades, a guy that literally does
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stat line was just efficient at Colorado. And then Cleef is not expected to

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play, but you know, Trailer, I think you put him in that

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same category with Hadley. He's a
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that regard and maybe even more of
a stat stuff for considering he had three

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triple doubles last year at Long Beach
State, and then Korin Johnson is just

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a two guard, a guy that
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a whole lot about him as far
as his style of play, but you

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know, I know last year at
Washington he came off the bench and averaged

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about twelve points a game in roughly
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know, six' two combo guard
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a roster that doesn't look like,
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But this day at age, man
like you can win a lot,

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you can win at a high level
with those caliber players. It really all

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comes down to how it fits together. And that's something you really don't know.

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but you know, if it's brand
new, you don't know till you

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know. If you bring back your
entire team like Louisville, did you know,

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like when Louisville brought back Jordan Warre, Dwayne Sutton, all those guys,

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and the only added piece in that
twenty twenty team was fresh Kimball.

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At that point, you know,
you knew who you were as a team,

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like you knew what you had.
That's a different world now. I

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mean, so Eric Muslim at Arkansas
last year a great example. Like people

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could make fun of him for being
bad this past year there and he was,

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but he landed players from the portal
that everybody wanted. Everybody, most

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of them, I should say,
like not. I mean, Ellis was

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one of them, and he wasn't
wanted by everybody. But if you remember

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Ellllis, I mean Indiana wanted him, Miami wanted him. I mean,

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I don't know if it was the
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in the pooral world, you really just

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don't know how any of it's all
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those are caliber players that their numbers
aren't going to be crazy, right,

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They're not going to look like,
oh man, this guy's he's going to

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put up thirty at night. But
they're solid, they're experienced. And Pat

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Kelsey, you know, we're all
still this is all nw to everybody,

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but Pat Kelsey two years ago had
a really really good team at Charleston that

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I believe, you know, I
don't know if it would have we never

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we never found out, but I
mean they were close to being considered for

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a team that would actually still make
the tournament even if they did not win

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their league because they had just a
gaudy record. Well, Pat lost some

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guys from that team that ended up
transferring elsewhere, and you know they ended

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up being pretty good players at a
higher level. Well, he went out

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and had to go get more players, and he did it. So he

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replaced some of his better players we
lost to the portal at Charleston. He

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went out, replaced him with guys
from the portal, and sure enough they

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won their league once again, made
the NAA Tournament. So, you know,

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every coach is still adjusting to this
new world in college basketball. But

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you know, so far Pat has
Pat has I think shown that he can.

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He can. You know, to
me, there's a little bit of

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Bram in him in regards to just
understanding, you know, there's nothing like

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we can do about it. It's
never gonna change as far as you know

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in il the portal and all that. So let's just embrace it like no

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other and thrive. And Bram has
done that with the transfer portal. Anytime

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he's asked about it, he gives, you know, not a not a

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newsworthy type answer, not a response
that's you know, gonna go viral.

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But it's almost as if, Jeff, it's like, what I mean,

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that's that's that's the rules, now, like that's how you have this.

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You have to be very good in
this in this space, and that is

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acquiring players in the portal because you're
losing players to the portal and making sure

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you know, when it comes to
that specific I mean, that's it's crazy

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to say it, like that's like
the most important thing now is making sure

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you can keep your team together,
if they're good, keep them happy,

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and then when you do have spots
open up, go out there and get

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some of the best players available.
I mean, that's just what it is.

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And I think again, Pat Kelsey
is somebody that you know, we'll

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see again. Maybe maybe it doesn't
work out here and maybe the portal is

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not something that that's great for him. But to me, it just seems

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like he understands like that. There's
no like because there's a lot of coaches

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that can complain about it. And
I get while they complain, as much

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as I don't really have a lot
of sympathy for them, I do get

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why they complain because it is different. But you know, when will coach

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as ever, John, you think
like not do the I gotta worry about

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this portal nonsense? Like you can't. I mean you, but there are

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people who do that, yet they
still utilize it, you know what I

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mean, Like, yeah, it's
it's what it is. But it's just

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to me, it just becomes some
lame thing coaches do now is complain about

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the Portal and and in il funds. Yeah, I mean it is different,

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the job's different, but you can, you know, not to do

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it if you don't want to.
And I think you've got two guys like

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Pat Kelsey and Jeff Bram that are
super hungry and want to compete at the

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highest level and win at a high
level. And I just think it's it's

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in their nature to essentially not even
worry about, you know, how different

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it can be and how problematic it
can be. They just know this is

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what it is, and I got
to navigate it or I'm not gonna I'm

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not going to succeed, and that's
not an option for me. So we

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still got many spots to fill on
this Louisville roster, but you know,

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so far, I feel like they're
in a pretty good spot. And I

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know sometimes when there's guys visiting,
you want an answer the next day or

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you know, maybe the day of. And I just don't think that's don't

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think that's realistic. I wouldn't.
I would be I'd be shocked if over

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the next few days there's not at
least one guy that visited recently that makes

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a decision. And if I had
to guess I'd say it's Corn Johnson,

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and I'm only guessing that because that's
what everybody else is, you know,

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is reporting that louisll looks to be
in great shape there now the high school

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start star, I should say,
Jade and Quainton's he visited on over the

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weekend as well. He kind of
wrapped up his visit, I think on

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on Friday evening ish maybe, And
there's really not a whole lot to add

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from his visit. But what we'll
do on the other side is I'll let

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you, at least, you know, share some quotes with you from a

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conversation he had with Adam Zagori about
his trip to Louisville and what his plans

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are next. And I want to
revisit something from earlier. You know,

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I referenced that tweet John that somebody
put out there, and Quaintin's's father shot

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it down, you know, like
basically saying not true, fake news,

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And like if people just stop for
maybe three seconds and looked at a profile,

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the name, the picture they choose, like you can tell that somebody's

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just messing around on the internet,
and it's just crazy how many people fall

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for that, All right, quick
break, we'll come back, keep it

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rolling along again. It's Coffee and
Company. Feil Beeth Thornton's right here on

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Sports Talk seven ninety. So you
do have some breaking news as we come

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back from break. There. Coran
Johnson has committed Louisville. That's the Washington

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transfer who I just guessed would be
the next to commit. I didn't know

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if it'd be today, but he
commits now, and you know he is

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somebody that is I mean, let
me just pull up make sure. Yeah,

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he was a PAC twelve six Man
of the Year this past year,

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so he's played two seasons at Washington. I just mentioned his stats, but

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I'll mention him once again given the
fact that he did just now commit.

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He is from Seattle. Average eleven
points, a little over eleven points,

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a couple of rebounds, nearly three
assists, and you know, in bench

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minutes he was a very impactful guy. And I'd say, now, your

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backcourt is not completely done, but
you've got Edwards Junior Johnson, Rayn Smith,

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and you know, I think Hadley's
probably a guy more as a as

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a forward, but more of like
a wing slash forward hybrid. I guess

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that's the best way to describe it. I don't want to act like he's

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versatile to I mean, he is, but it's not, as you know,

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his versatility is not based just off
like a crazy skill set. I

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think it's more so based off the
fact that, like you can put him

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in a lot of spots and he'll, you know, he'll he'll get it

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done. But yes, another one
in the mix there for for Pat Kelsey.

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So, uh, what's that give
him? Now? Total of let's

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see, is that five or see
it is five? I think it's six

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if you count, and he does
count Ali Ali Khalifa. But you know,

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the belief is he's gonna red shirt
next year. So and I'm still

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you know, I'm gonna I may
reiterate that every now and then because I

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think the plan is for him to
red shirt. But I still think like

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if if, if he's if he's
rehabbed his knee, because he's already had

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surgery, but if his rehab goes
well, and uh, you know he's

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getting himself in better shape, Like
I wouldn't be shocked if they just let

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him play this year if he if
he can, But yeah, that's another

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one. Korn Johnson the transfer from
Washington has committed a Louisville. So the

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Nick Coffee Crystal ball, Yeah,
it's yeah. I knew all along.

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That's why I said that he'd be
the next guy to commit, just because.

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But I mean, I wish I
could claim I had, you know,

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I had the ability to, you
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I'm being directly honest with you.
I only based that off the fact is

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that, like anybody who was talking
about his and I mean like people who

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cover recruiting, anytime there'd be any
little update on his options and where he

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may end up, everybody said Louisville
is in great shape. So I assume

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those people were telling them the truth, and you know, I guess they

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were. And I don't know if
this is true, but apparently there's a

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teammate of his. And when I
say, I don't know, it's true,

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like it's out there, but you
know, you can find a lot

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of stuff online and there's a good
chance none of it's true, depending on

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where it's coming from. So he
has a teammate, Wesley Yeates, who

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red shirted at Washington last year.
So he's not played college basketball, but

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he is a top former top forty
player, was I believe a four star

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by every service he is in the
portal, and there's some you know,

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there's some Twitter stuff out there that
he may visit Louisville, like maybe he'll

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find follow him to maybe he's gonna
follow his his former teammate to Louisville.

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So we shall see, all right, We'll get back into the Jade and

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Quaintance thing in just a moment,
because I don't want to tease and I

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don't act like I've got some some
update, but I'm pretty sure that the

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response from Jaden Quaintance's father to somebody
who claims to be, you know,

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a Twitter recruiting insider has led to
people like finally looking at the profile long

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enough to realize that, like it's
quite literally somebody just trying to see how

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far they could get. Like they're
not saying troll, they're not trolling.

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They're just sharing information probably from Trilli
Donovan's discord and getting stuff right. And

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people are like, this guy knows
something, Well, it's because he probably

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gets it from Trillie Donovan. But
anyways, we'll get back to that in

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just a moment. Let's go to
the phone lines five way two five seven

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seventy nine hundred is the number.
If you want to give us a call,

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and let's go to Mike. Mike, you're on Sports Talk seven ninety.

410
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What's up, hey, man.
First of all, on the rankings,

411
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those are absolutely influenced by the school
you twose. I'm a Kentucky guy.

412
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I know, folks that commit to
Kentucky get a bump. Just like

413
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in football, they usually get downgraded. Uh and it's it's and plus some

414
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of these dudes that are making these
rankings, I mean, they're kids who

415
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haven't have no idea how to evaluate
talent when they're doing these on these sites

416
00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:22.640
and stuff. So it for me, it's all about the fit for the

417
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.119
program. I mean, the dude
that played for North Carolina State last year

418
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at the center, I guarantee he
wasn't a top ten guy in the portal?

419
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Was he for North Carolina State?
Comes down? Yes. So the

420
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next thing in roster construction of the
I'm surprised that some of those little kids

421
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didn't stick around for Louisville because I
really think in this day and age,

422
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:52.720
you're going to have to do more
in state recruiting for the consistency of the

423
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:55.759
roster. And then then you're going
to go out and get some other guys

424
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.799
because, uh, you know,
I worry about these guys that are transferring

425
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:03.960
all the time. Yeah, there's
no loyalty to a program. Most of

426
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:07.599
these guys are not going to graduate
on time. And number two, you

427
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.519
know, I think Freddy Maggert had
a saying, but it was like four

428
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:14.920
for forty. You get four years
to an institution and then you're linked with

429
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.680
them for forty years, and you
know, the boosters and stuff take care

430
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.599
of them. Well, there's not
many loyal to these dudes that are running

431
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.440
from one school to another all the
time. When they're done with their four

432
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:27.279
years, there'll be nobody there to
help them for the next forty There just

433
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:32.160
won't be And I worry about that
part of the thing. They won't they

434
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.880
won't have a degree, and then
there'll be nobody there to really that they'll

435
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:41.079
have a relationship that is truly to
help them along the way, because we

436
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:42.200
all need help along the way.
Sure, sure, no doubt. And

437
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.480
I appreciate the call, Mike,
and I got to be honest with you,

438
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.240
I think every coach probably agrees with
everything he just said as far as

439
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.960
the you know, guys, league, if you leave every year, it

440
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.720
doesn't make you a bad person.
If you leave three times in four years,

441
00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.960
it doesn't make you a bad person. It just isn't a great look.

442
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.680
But I also at times find myself
hesitating to to fault someone who's just

443
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.200
trying to potentially better themselves. And
if it's you know, from a financial

444
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:15.079
standpoint, you know, I don't
know if I would do the same thing.

445
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.920
But you got to keep in mind
some of these college athletes, you

446
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:26.599
know, they are aware that their
chance to grab money is probably better now

447
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.920
then that'll then it will ever be
unless they have like true NBA upside or

448
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.880
whatnot. Now is that is that
worth it? Is it worth just you

449
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:41.880
know, chasing money every year?
You know, I can't mean if it's

450
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a lot of money, then hey, you know, I guess it's up

451
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.200
to the person and how much they
value said money. But you know,

452
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:52.720
I think sticking it out and not
leaving just because you can is you know,

453
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:55.160
this is gonna sound corny, but
it's it's good for you as a

454
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.720
person. I mean, dealing with
you know, going through adversity, that

455
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:00.240
kind of stuff. I mean,
you know, I mean, guys had

456
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:07.079
great college careers that would have left
if they could like kids can now,

457
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:08.599
and you know, they probably would
have. I mean, they never would

458
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.160
have had the ultimate moment that that
you know, gave them such a great

459
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:18.960
college career. So I look,
I struggle with it because if they make

460
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:25.279
a mistake that really impacts their growth
and their you know, their career,

461
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.680
right, Like if they just leave
because they feel like they're not getting a

462
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:32.400
fair shake from their coach and they
should be getting more minutes a bigger role,

463
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.400
you know, Like if they if
they leave and end up finding it

464
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.119
each school they go to, the
same problems are there, then they're gonna

465
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:41.480
have to look in the mirror like
that's unfortunate. That would be that would

466
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.920
be these guys kind of doing some
that would be a college player really making

467
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.160
decisions that I don't want to say
ruin their career, but certainly impacted it

468
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.160
negatively, And that's unfortunate. You
don't want that to happen. But I

469
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.559
also have a tough time saying when
you're a grown up and you're eighteen years

470
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:57.559
old that you shouldn't be able to
go play whatever you want because coaches can

471
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.559
do whatever they want and they get
paid a lot of money too, by

472
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the way, So I don't know
the perfect solution. I mean I think

473
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if you if you really had some
oversight from the universities themselves, which is

474
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.519
not allowed because that's just you know, the instable as because of how I

475
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.400
say it all the time, there
are archaic amateur asm model and no adjustments,

476
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.440
and in doubling down and making it
clear that you know, not only

477
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.160
can you not be paid like you
can't there's no way you can't make any

478
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:30.920
money, Like even if you just
want to get a job McDonald's, Nope,

479
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:34.799
can't do it, because then it'll
be clear that McDonald's only hired you

480
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.839
because you play for the team.
Like it was. It was insane,

481
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.759
so that led Congress to get involved. And now it's just that's why we

482
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.119
are in this exact mess. And
it'd still be a mess if there was

483
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.680
more oversight and the schools were involved. But if these guys are employees and

484
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:53.519
the schools are the ones responsible for
paying them, and there's contracts, they

485
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:57.039
could be fired right you're an employee, and that would make it to where

486
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:00.839
you wouldn't see guys leave as much
because you know what they're thinking about their

487
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.000
livelihood their contract. Right, maybe
you sign a no compete, you can

488
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.880
leave, but you know, we
will fight it in court. For example,

489
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.640
if I left this radio station today
and try to go across the street

490
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.839
and host a show elsewhere, like
that's not possible because of a non compete

491
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.480
to sign a contract. So that
would make it to where the chaos would

492
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.960
slow down, but you'd still have
guys that could leave, and they would,

493
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:29.039
So there is a there's clearly a
way about. There's clearly a way

494
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:30.319
you could go about this whole thing
from the very top. And I just

495
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.519
you know, when I say the
top, I usually mean it in double

496
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.599
A. But like, they have
no they have no power, they have

497
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.799
no leadership. It's just a joke. It's never been worse than it is

498
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.519
now as far as just like nobody
thinking that anybody has to follow any rules

499
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:52.440
and getting away with whatever they whatever
they want. But the leaving just because

500
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.680
you know you can is not really
good for anybody. But then again,

501
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:59.920
maybe you know, there's there's probably
some exceptions, but I think more of

502
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.759
than not. If you see somebody
that's hit the portal more than twice in

503
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:08.200
their college career, they may be
really talented they may be really productive at

504
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:12.880
each of their schools and they just
want to go have a fresh start elsewhere.

505
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:15.759
There isn't wrong with that, I
guess, but I just think the

506
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.160
multiple time transfer, especially transferring when
you get to a school in December,

507
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:24.200
go through springball, and then leave, like maybe it's because you were humbled.

508
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.920
But some of these guys, man, I just I think their main

509
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.839
priority is money. And I can't
say I'm surprised about that, because money's

510
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:36.400
a motivator for like everybody, right, But I guess more than anything,

511
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.880
it's just there's there's not any really, you know. I guess everybody's different,

512
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.680
but to me, it seems like
there's a lot of college athletes that

513
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:47.759
are rarely ever thinking about what the
decisions they make in real time regarding portal

514
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.480
and all that, how that's going
to help shape them to be who they

515
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.920
are. I mean that sounds really
corny, but I know what Mike meant

516
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.119
there, Like this is just this
is just not I mean, it's not

517
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.440
sustainable, right, which means something's
got to give. But I don't really

518
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.200
know what. Like, I don't
see anybody taking any kind of action to

519
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:10.440
change anything about the current chaos that
we have in college sports. I mean,

520
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.599
who would not the ns double a
right? What are they gonna do?

521
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:21.000
I mean, we'll see all right, before we take our final break

522
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:22.440
here and come back and wrap it
the show, let me once again tell

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that for a long time since nineteen
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home, selling a home, maybe
doing both. In fact, more often

527
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than not, it is that's how
it works, right, you want to

528
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.920
go buy a new house, you
better go sell yours. Well, that

529
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process, in my opinion, just
seems to be a pain in the rear

530
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know, maybe pay somebody to move
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Etland and Eedland is who you need
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541
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them a call. Fabably two five
nine nine, twenty eight hundred. Let's

542
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take our last break. We'll come
back on the other side for a longer

543
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:34.599
than usual last segment of the show. And uh, I think somebody's gonna

544
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:40.760
gonna out this, you know,
self proclaimed recruiting transfer Portal insider. That

545
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:47.639
to me just seems so obvious.
But again we'll get to that, get

546
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.679
to the text line before we say
goodbye. Stick with us right here,

547
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.000
it's Coffee and Company. Feel abut
Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety So the

548
00:34:54.039 --> 00:35:00.000
addition of Peyton Siva to the staff
may have already paid off here for Patkell's

549
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.800
because there is that Seattle connection with
Corn Davis as well as you know Peyton

550
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.400
obviously born and raised in Seattle.
I'm sure he still considers it to be

551
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.920
home. Despite making Louisville his home, but maybe that has something to do

552
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.360
cornin Johnson. By the way,
I say, Davis, sorry again.

553
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:22.079
Names not a strength of mine anymore, but makes you wonder if maybe there

554
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.599
is some truth to the visitor that
there was teammate that could be visiting.

555
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:29.199
I've not heard enough to, you
know, to say that I truly believe

556
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:32.960
that's happening. But there was something
out there earlier that one of Corn Johnson's

557
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.480
teammates at Washington who regishtered this past
year, former four star guard. I

558
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:44.519
believe he's Wesley Yates. I think
it is, so you know, he's

559
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.119
never played but was a highly regarded
recruiters a year ago. Red Shuter last

560
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:52.199
year due to I believe I think
it was a foot injury. So we'll

561
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.840
see. I mentioned earlier that I
think we'll probably get two more commitments this

562
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:59.880
week from Louisville. But maybe I
was wrong, Maybe I'm underestimating, because

563
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.039
you know, I still think they've
got a pretty good chance to get a

564
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.639
few more. But the other name
that folks have talked about, well,

565
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:06.679
there's a lot of names, but
the name that is not a transfer it

566
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:08.960
as a high school recruit that would
end up probably me. I think it's

567
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:13.639
the only high school kid that is
available in the twenty twenty four class that

568
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:20.639
Louisville is pursuing. That is Jaden
Quaintance and his father earlier responded to somebody

569
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.360
on Twitter who goes by the name
of and I'm saying goes by the name

570
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:28.679
of because I you know, I'm
not really convinced that this person is real.

571
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:37.679
But his Twitter account is Xavier Let's
see here Xavier Ricks, and the

572
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.199
Twitter handle is at Xavier R,
but he spells it z y a v

573
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:50.320
i e R. And his Twitter
bio says this Transfer Portal insider Father de

574
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:57.400
Paul Alum, honorary member of BBN
Locations, says Chicago, Illinois. This

575
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:02.400
account joined Twitter earlier this year,
in twenty twenty four, in January,

576
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:08.760
seven hundred and fifty four followers,
only following twenty one people. And first

577
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.599
of all, that to me seems
like a very obviously fake name, z

578
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:15.079
y A v i e R.
I mean, I just think, you

579
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:16.960
know, maybe that's the real name. But like to me, that just

580
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.559
seems like somebody trying to be really
creative fake and come up with a fake

581
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:25.039
name. And maybe it's a real
person. I don't know, but there

582
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:29.719
is a thread here that, uh, let's just put it this way.

583
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.000
If in fact all of this was
true, I would believe all of it,

584
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:37.360
like it would not shock me.
But this looks like somebody who just

585
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.599
created a Twitter account to maybe expose
this guy, like they don't even have

586
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:45.239
like maybe maybe truly Donovan just wanting
to just wanting to like call this guy

587
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:49.000
fraud says. In a shocking turn
of events, and notorious fraudster known as

588
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.400
Xavier Rix managed to deceive an entire
community of avid basketball fans by faking sources

589
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:57.239
in the transfer portal, resulting in
a massive following of over five thousand.

590
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:05.519
Operating under the guise of a seasoned
insider, Xavier Ricks manipulated people and created

591
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.599
an illusion of very of being a
very connected insider with a flawless record and

592
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:16.079
seemingly unbeatable predictions. Unsuspecting fans eagerly
followed him, uh and hopes to you

593
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.679
know, have a new insider here, you see, Yeah, there's a

594
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.880
thread here, it says. It
was later revealed that Xavier Rix had orchestrated

595
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.639
a simple scheme, and that was
publishing Trillie Donovan's work as his own,

596
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:34.480
Like that would be totally believable,
right, I mean, people have a

597
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.480
lot of time on their hands,
if that's true, Like if that's but

598
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:44.480
you're now seeing guys you know who
are have worked in the college basketball reporting

599
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:45.400
world for a while, like if
this is what they do, this is

600
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.559
their lane that have been calling out
this account for a while, and like

601
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.039
nobody seems to like think it's that
you know that the criticism is fair,

602
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.920
But like I mean, anyways,
people have a lot of time on their

603
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.159
hands when it comes to the internet. But anyways, we're out of time.

604
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:00.719
I got to get out of here
and head to my kids baseball game.

605
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.159
But the reason I bring that whole
thing up is because the uh Jade

606
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.679
and Queen's father you know, responded
to some of his tweets basically saying like

607
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.920
this this is fake this is the
fake news king. I think he called

608
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.880
them in one of the responses.
So we'll see what happens. I wish

609
00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:19.920
I had a better update, but
I'd say if he gets to Arkansas,

610
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.599
visit takes place, and then a
day or so goes by and he hasn't

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committed Arkansas, maybe Louisville will Land
Jadan and Quainton's, but we'll see all

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right. Every good night, everybody,