What's he will have the impossible or whatever remains however improbable must be true.
And it is not a question of a little cultism. What a touch of
mysticism is to dead? It is empires. There's a host of damned souls
and Hellipus thy Father's spirit to do it for a certain term, to walk
the night here. The old gods aren't dead, and what is the true
god? He's dead? Can't complain people assume the time is a strict progression
of cause to effect that action. From a nonlinear, non subjective viewpoint,
it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimi stuff. You're listening
to Paranormal UK Radio. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to another edition of
the Paranormal UK Radio show, the flagship show here on the Paranormal UK Radio
Network. I'm your host for this evening, Mark Johnson. Irene Alan is
feeling a bit under the weather, so she's taking the night off. Hopefully
she'll be back with us for the next show, so she better get better.
I'm supposed to be going over there and almost exactly a month from now.
We have a lot of things planned and I plan to run them ragged.
While I'm there, I want to see some of the ghosties that are
in their house. She promises me that I won't be disappointed, So we'll
see how that goes. Hope everyone is having a good start to their summer
here in the Northeast. We've been having a lot of rain, heavy rain
the last few days, which we've needed badly, and we're still getting some
smoke from those wildfires in Canadas. They're still calling for poor air quality down
here. Thankfully, nothing as bad as it was a couple of weeks ago,
which was really horrific. I thought there was a forest fire right around
the corner. The smoke was so thick here in New Jersey. So but
we're going to go ahead and get right into tonight show. Now, this
guest has been with us before tonight. We're talking with von Bressler, and
Vaughan had previously written a book about past lives that we discussed with him.
Well, now he's got a new and I don't think I could really call
it a book, a very unique way of publishing about lucid dreams. So
let's talk to him about it. How are you tonight, Von Hi Mark,
I'm doing just fine, thank you. Now again I mentioned that this
these writings, I should say, it's not exactly a traditional book. Can
you talk a little bit about, first of all, what made you want
to published in this format. Well, I was speaking to my publisher over
at Schiffer in Pennsylvania, and we thought that in the Red Feather Line we
got to do something different, that was different from books. And we were
discussing how people tend to read shorter amounts, they have a shorter amount of
time, they take things in little snippets, and we talked about doing a
condensed book and he said, what do you mean by Ken Dent's book?
I said, why, I think you put everything you would put in a
book, but really really condense it. There's no fluff anywhere, there's no
anecdotes anywhere, no musings anywhere. But it's got to be practical, and
it's got to tell you about the ancient wisdom tradition behind something. He said,
for instance, we came up with a whole list of things that we
would do. The first was past lives and the second was the scroll.
It's actually a scroll. It's two part wooden scroll. You hold one in
your left hand, one in your right, and the paper feeds across from
one scroll to the other, and there's a little marker you can save your
place at any point. So it reads just like a book, but in
a scroll. So you're you're holding pine, you're you're you're smelling um natural
wood products. It's a very different experience from a book. It is suter
read than the book. And we also think that the ancient wisdom tradition should
be maintained in scrolls because not only do they tend to be more concise,
but they could be more long lasting. We put this in a plastic case,
you know, it could be preserved, you know. And I find
that intriguing because I'm a big fan of the TV show The Chosen. I
don't know if you've seen it, and of course it's all based about the
life of Jesus and the Apostles, but it's but it's more like watching an
historical drama. And it's excellent. Um, it's up right up there with
anything produced on HBO and whatever. It's totally crowdfunded, free to watch,
and they spend a lot of time. You learn more about Judaism or the
Jewish community in that period of time than ever before. And especially all the
scrolls. Everything is written on the scrolls, all the scribes, all the
all the old books, and they opened the scroll of a certain passage and
reading from the scroll. So I found it interesting that you chose to use
scrolls for this product. And let's face it, scrolls have been around a
lot longer than books, and they and they they could they can be preserved
I think, more easily, uh, in many ways than books. And
you think of of of everything that was found, and we're talking like in
less than one hundred years ago. You know, in the fifties, we
found the non Commodi Library, we found the Essene books, you know,
we found the Dead Sea scrolls, all the caustic coptic writings we found.
We found the Babylonian tablets too, and they were all buried, weren't they.
None a single one of them was written on paper, you know.
So so I think I think there's something to be said for the scrolls.
I know we're going to do two more after this. Um, we're probably
going to do well. They're all written, so it's a matter when we
release them and how we release them. But there would be two two scrolls
next year on Nature spirits and uh and elementals, oh right up my alley.
Yeah, and and and how we've taken off with that everything from you
know, the games that Pokemon games and the Dungeons and Dragons and you know,
and now there's a Disney movie Elemental. You know, it's it's very
much a part of creation around us, but we've we've kind of forgotten it,
haven't we. And then we're gonna do one on amulets, talismans and
spells. And if you think like only you know, magical people walk around
with amulets and talismans and spells. Look at what's on your sweatshirt or on
your cap or your tattoo. It's all there. We have this with us
everywhere. Well, I'm going to tell you right now we're gonna have to
have you back for both of them, especially the one on nature, spirits
and elementals, because that's been part of my research these last few years.
I've had some personal experience with it. So that's definitely something that we could
have a great conversation. Sation that'll be fun. Mark, Yeah, yeah,
but this is about lucid dreaming. Yeah, and so talk to me
a little bit. I mean, I understand lucid dreaming. But let's talk
for the audience who may not be fully aware of what lucid dreaming is.
Yeah, so I always say a lucid dream is when a dream is more
than a dream. By that, I mean it's not just your you're tossing
and turning at night, going over the same problems of yesterday and you're worries
about tomorrow. They're not idle musings of a restless mind that cannot sleep fully
at night. It is something much much more. And so you know,
serious dream work has been with us for probably five thousand years that we know
about. You know, it dates back three thousand BC, goes all the
way back to the ancient Sumer culture. It dates back then to the Acadian
lifestyle of the Mesopotamian kings, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, goes right up
to Egypt in two thousand BC. They were inducing inducing lucid dreams, mind
you, as being prophetic. So for thousands of years we've seen these special
dreams, which will call lucid dreams as treated more like divine revelation, prophecy
and windows of the soul. And in many ancient cultures, dream work of
this sort was very serious, and it was indeed considered considered to be the
soul or a part of the soul leaving the body during sleep. Now,
with a lucid dream, the difference between the regular dreams, as you mentioned,
first of all, the imagery is a lot clearer. Yeah, but
what's very important is you're also aware that you are dreaming. Your consciousness actually
becomes lucid. Why they call lucid dreaming enough to understand that you're in a
dream state and you can interact rather than react like you usually do in a
dream. Yeah, this is the real deal. I would call the other
dreams which clinical science tends to want to study during all this rem dream sleep
clinic work. They want to study those dreams, divide out why people get
nightmares and why they get night sweats. And these are kind of like the
very routine common dreams of the mind, the physical mind, they can't shut
off at night. But the lucid dream is more a dream of the deeper
subconscious self, you know, the soul of you will, the inner spirit,
and which longs to get out and longs to explore, and as it
explores, it explores with a greater sense of awareness. Than are five physical
perceptive skills. It is keenly aware of everything around us. It moves freely
throughout time and space. There are no barriers to it. It is.
It is energy. It leaves us and goes anywhere it pleases, and it
explores. And historically we've seen that people would believe that our soul then travels
from the body during during these lucid special dreams and visits, the divine has
encounters with guardian spirits, if you will. It's often been considered a point
of revelation. We have the Morpheus mysteries going back to ancient times, which
was the god Morpheus reaching out to the wandering souls at night. And yes,
indeed, uh, these are very vivid dreams. You know, you
tend to remember your lucid dreams because they're so vivid, they're so impactful,
they're so filled with personal insight and meaning as as to turn your life around.
Would you classify at least some lucid dreams to be a form of astral
traveling. Yes, I would tend to say that they're all astral travel but
but but you know, more than simply astral traveling, it's it's it's it's
much more of you leaving than just your astral your astral body. If you
think of the body as holistically as being a mental body, an astral or
emotional body, a causal body, a Buddhick body, you know, and
so forth so on. And I think we see that that in a in
a true in a true dream, our spirit, our spirit energy bodies all
all of the physical body or can. And in fact, if this if
you're going to for instance, if you were going to visit the mental plane,
you would take the mental body, you were going to visitle the causal
plane of existence, you would visitle the causal plane, you know. And
these are very very real planes of existence outside of what we can visibly see
in the physical world. They are not part of the physical world, you
know, but they are very much a part of our world. And they
correspond to various aspects of our self, our holistic self, which would be
described in as as consciousness of energized nature. There's a couple of different aspects,
and I wanted to bounce these off you to get your interpretation of them.
Now, there are vivid dreams. Most dreams you tend to forget almost
as soon as you wake up. Maybe they hang with you a day or
so, and then you forget. And then there are other dreams that will
literally stay with you for years. Yeah. I mean, I've had some
quote unquote and amusing air quotes here that you can't see dreams that I've had
back in high school or in my early twenties that were so vivid. Now,
they weren't lucid in the terms that I knew I was dreaming and could
control what was happening. I was still long for the ride, but yet
they were so vivid that I can still remember them forty years later. Oh
yes, And you'll return to these dreams on occasion. You could. You
can count on it. If they really have meaning for you, they might
even continue. They might be a continuing dream. But you know, another
aspect of a true vivid dream, and fans of Carl Young might find this
interesting, was the idea that you'll see characters in these dreams, and they're
not in your your past memory, of your physical memory bank, but they
will be. They will be people that you you seem to know. Maybe
you don't know them in this physical world that you live in and during the
daytime, but they will be other other than you. You will not in
short, you will not be all the characters, and you will you will
definitely see things that have form and and it will it will be impactful,
you know, it will just be searing into your memory, you know,
forever, you know. And they're not just idle musings during restless sleep,
and so they are vivid and and they will they will, Yeah, exactly
what you said, Mark, they will. They will be with you forever
well, like for one example, in fact, it's the earliest vivid dream
I can remember. I think I was seventeen years old in high school.
And in hindsight now it wasn't It seemed like it was a dream, but
it was insanely vivid. And I'm realizing now it was more an out of
body experience. But it felt like a dream because I found myself suddenly in
my backyard and as you mentioned, people that you that are there you seem
to know, but you don't really know. And there was somebody else there
with me that I knew, I really couldn't see their face and tell you
who they were. And I was just amazed at the fact that I said,
oh my god, I'm a ghost. Yeah, that's how my brain
was interpreting it. And even though it was the middle of the night,
it was brightest day, but everything had almost like a green tint to it,
like looking through night vision glass scopes. Yeah, that real third generation
starlight scope type of light. And it wasn't a long dream, but the
other person was there encouraging me. When I woke up, my whole body
was electrified. I felt like I was walking three feet above the ground for
like the next three days. Yeah, very often, I think this is
true that you you will have a dream and they'll have a kind of a
color cast to it, you know, sometimes yellow or orange or grain to
be a tint maybe of blue, and it will indicate what plane of existed
you're on, or or what or what what a subtle body is most active
in this dream, you know. And and and that will be a clue
as as to where either where you've gone, what plane of existence, or
what part of you is leading the way you know, is is most active.
And and I think also that back to what you've said here, that
that we we will encounter people in these lucid, vivid dreams of ours that
we seem to know, but but we don't know. You know, and
I think I think the answer there is that your subconscious mind, your spirit,
your inner spirit or soul, if you will, simply knows more than
your physical mind does, you know, because it's been around a lot longer,
you know, and it preceded you, and it's going to you know,
it's going to to continue on after your mortal coil is gone, and
it has encounters that are are outside the physical realm, so it has a
wider circle of friends than maybe you physically can can recollect in your mind.
Well, I figure when we come here, you know, we have amnesia
right away, and so that we can live this life fresh, even though
in our subconscious or on the higher higher self plane, we already know what's
going on, but it's just our conscious minds are not aware of it or
tuned into it. So whether it's people we've interacted with before we've come here,
people who we are interacting with, you know, during dream time or
during these um these astro travel events or whatnot when we're sleeping, that again,
just they filter down through the conscious mind when we awaken, but we
just don't know who the people are. We just there's a fi millioned about
them. Yeah, and we we begin to do have a sense on this
subconscious level that there is there is, there's more going on in our lives
than we we physically can account for during the day. Um, you know
a lot of people today are fascinated by the cutting edge physics that has indicated
will will will have experiences of a parallel life or will or that we have
some knowledge or inkling of parallel realities, worlds or universes that are just so
very close to ours, but just it's like like a map that's been folded
many many times, and as you fold the map, they say, oh,
well, there's there's a whole country on the other side of this map,
and it's paper thin, but you know, I can't see what's there.
The light doesn't go around. So once I folded the map, we'll
perhaps you know, creation or space is folded like that. There's every indication
that there are parallel worlds and realities that are very close to us but just
not visible to the naked eye. And maybe maybe we we we we we
have a sense of that, and maybe sometimes in a dreams we go there,
dreams or even trance like states. If Irene were here, she could
tell you that she has had experiences of slipping into parallel lives and dimensions where
she and I are interacting and yet I'm different. Yeah, Like in one
of these I smoke. I've never smoked, so yeah. So yeah,
there's all these these different vibrations, different planes that you can act excess when
here's a good one for you. What about that? And I recently experienced
this where I was in the middle of one of my normal stress dreams,
as I call them, where everything is frustrating. I'm trying to accomplish something
and all these barriers keep coming up to keep me from doing it. And
I've had these types of dreams all my life. And yet in the middle
of this dream he got interrupted and a vivid portion comes into it. Yeah.
Quite frankly, I'll keep this brief, and I'll be honest. My
wife passed away last November, and you know, I had not really had
any visitations or anything from her for a while, and then one night,
I'm in the middle of this dream and all of a sudden, it's like
somebody pressed pause on the VCR and suddenly there she was in the dream,
absolutely vivid, looking younger than she was now, wearing her favorite color.
She was gorgeous, and she just looks at me and she goes, how
can I help? Yeah, And I was lucid enough to know that it
was a visitation. I know she was dead, and my reaction at the
time was, well, you could still be here. And it's interesting that
almost right after that, it's suddenly it's like somebody hit the pause button again,
and then I went right back into the regular, you know, stupid
dream. So it was like this, It felt like it was a visitation,
a vivid aspect that was inserted into the middle of this real dream that
I was having. Yeah, I do think that our subconscious or our inner
spirit will sometimes just take charge and walk out on us because it longs to
explore and learn and and and have these these vivid encounters. This is how
it explores. You know, how else can it do it? You know,
probably all the great you know, insight in our life happens when we're
sleeping, you know. But but but you know, we tend to spend
so much of our time in these stress dreams, as you call them,
and and this preoccupies our time. And so you know, I'm well,
I'm working on a new book too that will actually help people actually to program
their lucid dreams with greater with greater fidelity, so that so that you know,
a person can actually program or induce a lucid dream to work on the
problems that are veccine you during your waking hours, you know, because I
think there's there's greater insight, you know, there that that that we're not
tapping, you know, and and and yeah, yes, I think there
are many cultures around the world historically, just just like Hugh Mark, that
have have experienced speaking with the dead during dreams. It is. It is
not an uncommon thing at all. No, there's there's I've been very big
over the years with dream symbolism and able to certain dreams that seem semi lucid,
semi vivid, I could say, the ones that really stick with you.
And um, whether I've had them myself or I've had I've had other
people tell me the dreams, and some dreams are highly symbolic, and you
have to look at the imagery that's within the dream that would tell you what's
you know, what's going on that you can gain further insight, whether it's
something happening in somebody's life, something that's going to happen in their lives.
I've had prophetic dreams certainly that were very vivid and uh, you know,
sometimes I would have dreams something would happen and within twenty four hours or would
happen afterwards. You ever, have you ever had dreams with animals in them,
because I think our animal spirits and our animal guides wouldtimes sometimes come to
us in our dreams because we're more accessible. Then I've had some animals come
in my dreams, but sometimes there's a fear factor involved in there, like
like I'm being stocked by an animal or something. Yeah, yeah, I
think that's typical. And then and then if you you just turn and confront
the animal, it's pursuing you because it wants to have an interaction, interaction
with you. I mean, for years I had dreams of a giant snake
following me. No, I, like a lot of people had early fear
of snakes, and so I thought this was just horrible. And then I
thought, you know, maybe it's not trying to wrap itself around me,
this big snake. Maybe it wants to beat up with me, and you
know, for some other reason. And so I stopped in the in the
snake got to me and it went between my legs, and then it cut
on the other side of me, and then it rose up and it spoke
to me. And it was very simple, you know it I realized that
I was running from my own animal spirit. Um. Now, with lucid
dreaming, this is the trick with lucid dreaming. With lucid dreams, you
are able to realize your dreaming and then have a measure of control of your
actions within the dream, like you dealing with the snake. Now, from
what that's it's it's very difficult for most of us to be in that situation
because I know sometimes you really have to work on it, maybe maybe before
you're going to bed, putting out that intention, setting the intention that you're
going to have a lucid dream and be able to be more of an active
participant and control the dream and then just and just be along for the ride
exactly. So many people have trouble visualizing, and but you know, I
would throw this out that they're trying to visualize within the constructs of their their
analytical physical mind. And not everyone can do that, you know, uh,
inventors can, Artists can't, right, But a lot of us,
can't, you know. So it's hard. But but but this is a
different kind of visualization. This kind of visualization is asking your analytical brain to
just kind of slow down and rest and let the whole body rest, and
then you ask your inner self to come out. And so we're talking about
a different level of consciousness. I know we throw this term around, but
too mystics, it generally means something else. Your inner consciousness is the consciousness
that connects you to all of life and greater cosmic consciousness. And this consciousness
can come forward and and create a picture. In fact, it thinks in
pictures. That's how it thinks. So it's very easy to visualize where you
want to go. Now, Now, when you can visualize where you want
to go, then you could have a lucid dream. You can actually program
that elucid dream, you know. Otherwise you can just think about it.
And if you think about it hard enough, it might come to be that
you might have a lucid dream inadvertently. And let's say, because it's not
programmed, and and the way you have it isn't that your analytical mind is
going to gift it to you, because it can't you know it that that
wheel does not turn these waters. You know it's going to take it's going
to take your your inner consciousness, your deeper consciousness to come forward and say,
okay, I'm free to do this now. So you see the whole
trick too, well, just like meditation, the whole trick to actually doing
dream work that's significant and we're speaking now of vivid lucid dreams, is to
to reach this this inner holistic harmony within you so that your physical body,
your physical mind can kind of rest and kind of tune out, so that
your inner consciousness and your spirit can come forward it. You know, in
a sense, then you have to get out of your own way. What
about with there's lucid dreaming, and then there's I'll go back to something that
I had learned to do, which is with shamanic practices, doing shamanic travels,
yes um using you know, get into that meditative state using the drumbeats
uh to adduce that that state where you're able to travel into other dimensions in
a lucid fashion. Very very similar, very similar. I mean the dream
walker of course, in the in the in the shamanic tradition, induces um
this heightened state of consciousness, heightened state of awareness to to to induce what's
sometimes called a vision where they visit ancestors, they go forward to speak to
the divine spirits, they speak to their animal spirits. They can even go
forward in time, you know. And that's it's very very very similar,
you know. But I think most people, you know, they they're not
able to do that. You know, they're not able to meditate. And
I think for the great, great bulk of people learning to control your dreams
in serious dream work, which has been going on for five thousand years,
it's probably the best way to get a handle on your inner self. Well,
how can someone, let's say, like myself, I have a hard
time meditating. I've tried using affirmations to try to have lucid dreams. Usually
my monkey brain won't shut off, and I have I've have difficulty with it.
What can an average person do to try to prepare for a dream journey
to have a lucid dream. The first thing is to find a RESTful position
where the body can slowly go to rest. Yeah, I do. What
I do is is self hypnosis. I will consciously order my feet to go
to sleep. And get heavy and dense, and then just there there,
I don't feel them anymore. And then I work upwards. My legs do
the same thing, and the torso, and then the chest and the arms,
all the way to the top of my head. I just selectively focus
on a part of my body and I and I instructed to to become RESTful
and in recline. And you can only do this in a in a very
safe, peaceful, quiet place where you can do this, you know.
So then the last thing is to ask. You can't order it. You
have to ask your analytical physical mind to go to sleep, you know.
And and and with that understanding is that your your your consciousness will then come
at your inner you're the part of you that dreams at will at night to
come forward and take charge because there's nothing, there's nothing else steering the ship
at that point. And the hardest part of all is to shut off that
analytical physical mind. It is so hard because there's the fear that you're going
to lose control. There's more than that, there's the built in a governor,
if you will, of the mind that says I'm in charge, I'm
responsible for safety and operating everything here I can't be shut down, but you
have. You have to convince it to shut down or at least go into
a rest mode for a brief amount of time. And you can only do
that with the assurance that all will be well and you will be safe during
this dream experience. And then what I do is I begin to visualize what
I want to do, where I want to go, and what I want
to see in my lucid dream. And I do this by visualizing on a
clear, clear slate in my mind's eye. And I'm inside this, this
darkness inside my mind and and and at this point I call it my mind,
but I'm looking in. It's the mind's eye that's looking out into this
blackness. And I call that the conscious void. It is the pool,
It is the pool from which everything comes. And in that deep pool,
then I begin to visualize exactly the agenda of my dream, you know.
And you can't do this with words. You can't do this with sounds or
anything that would come from the analytical mind. And it can only be done
as as the inner spirit sees and experiences everything visually. You begin to visually
draw or paint what you want to see, where you want to go what
you want to know. It can be vague, you know, but but
you begin to actually set then an agenda and a dream agenda of what you
want to experience. And then you as you tuck that back, you you
repair yourself for leaving the body, leaving the body to go out and explore,
and with with the understanding that when you call that slate back in front
of you, in front of your mind's eye again, that will be your
map to take you where you want to go. And it is, it
is, it's your ticket. It's your ticket to to to your dreamscape.
And in the dreamscape, you know, going to experience things in a much
deeper way. You know, you'll see colors you've never seen, and you'll
you'll you'll be fragrances and and and experiences uh you've never you know, you'll
go somewhere in a in a flash, you can go vision virtually anywhere in
a moment, you know, just by thinking about it. But you need
to set up a dream by bye, you need. Every good journey starts
with a plan, right and a lucid dream. I would submit you to
you as a really exciting exotic journey. So this journey of the soul needs
to have a plan. You need to know what you're going to take with
you. Now, you don't need to take a backpack, you know,
like the fool in the Tarot card that starts out on a journey, there's
very little in his knap knapsack. If you notice, the fool carries nothing
on that stick but a little teeny you know, twat of things. Because
everything you have is inside of you. So you just need to know where
you're going, when, when you want to be there, what you want
to see, and what you want to learn, and if you can if
you can do that, and it doesn't matter that you can't draw, I
can't draw, I can't hardly fingerpain. But you will know this is your
own shorthand of where you want to go in your in your dream and you
have to have you have to have a dream plan to do dream work.
With the plan and the types of dream work, I mean, what kind
of dream work can somebody do? I mean, as some examples, whether
it's learning more about themselves, about their their purpose in life, or maybe
looking at other realms. What are some good examples. Well, well,
you've you've you've touched on some big ones. I think most people have these
big questions that they're confronted with, and they have no way of resolving it
with their analytical mind, like who am I? Why am I here?
What is my mission? What should I be doing with my life? You
know? What am I missing? You know? And so all of these
questions you know, and and you and you could explore all of these and
lucid dreams in ways that you could never do walking around during the day with
the best of hiking shoes. But but I but I think that I think
that most people probably want to know who am I? And and and what
why am I here? Because I think that most people have some idea that
that there's something unresolved in their life, some things that they're missing that they
should have they should have been addressing in their lifetime, and they don't know
what it is, you know, what? In short, what should I
be doing with my life? You know? Because you know, we sense
destiny in each one of us, that there's some reason why we're here and
there must have been some kind of an agenda for us to come here,
especially those of us who do believe in past lives, we think we probably
return again and again and again and we keep forgetting what was my primary mission,
you know. So you know, we have this great amnesia when we're
born, you know this, and and and and most of us simply don't
remember, you know. So I think that they our inner spirit knows all.
It precedes us, and it will it will will continue long after we're
physically gone. And it knows, it knows, it knows the plan,
It knows your mission. It is your destiny. So let it explore and
discover itself. And I think that for most people that the greatest thing you
can do with your lucid dream is to know yourself. You mentioned, um
in the email that you sent before this, there's a couple of topics on
here that I find interesting. Um, you know, we talked about parallel
lives, Yeah, and visiting. Tell a little bit about visiting parallel lives
and what we can learn from that during a lucid dream. Well, we're
probably more complex than than we like to admit. We like to think,
Oh, you know, I'm so obvious, you know. I All you
have to do is just you know, look at my calendar, and look
look at my phone and look at you know, but there's there's there's a
lot going on behind the scenes, right, So, I think that most
of us are probably aware of a parallel life that there, that that that
is is somehow part of them actively or inact inactively, they're they're aware that
of of of things that should catch their attention that are related to them,
Um, others in your soul group, if perhaps who are they? Where
are they? And how do I link up with them? You know,
there are are are things that that that kind of vex all of us.
Don't you think that we were we're not seeing the whole picture. I I
I personally think that, um, most people are somewhat aware of a of
a parallel existence. Now that could simply be the part of you that leaves
at night and goes on these lucid dreams, but I think I think that
that's kind of an awfully short answer. I think that the part of you
that leaves at night and goes out on these dreams is exploring a life that
you you're ignoring. So I do think that there are parallel realities. I
do think I do think that we in fact live on other planes of existence.
And I think this is why if you look at our seven chakras and
our seven subtle bodies that I think they all correspond to other planes of existence.
What about shared dreams? Yeah, see, so so shared dreams are
really special. Now you could have a shared dream with someone who's very very
close to you, and you could actually dream link with them, and you
could do this like, oh, well inadvertently, but that's just kind of
a big surprise, like oh, I ran into your last night during a
dream. But you know, you could actually program yourselves to have the same
dream and the same night and go to the same place. And those are
very very special because when you do that, then you you you you can
both come back and analyze the dream together and it will have a slightly different
meeting for both of you. And now you could do this with a group,
of course, but I think it's easier to do it with one person
you know most likely. And this person might likely be someone very very close
to you, like a mate, spouse, a best friend, a sibling.
It might be someone like that. It might be your your twin flame,
you know, it might be someone from your soul group. It's it's
usually you know, if you have a twin obviously at twin but if someone
very close to you is going to be very very good at this because you're
already kind of linked. Ironically, I had a twin brother, so oh,
but we never had shared dreams exactly. Oh okay, but I think
you could have, you see, because you would have been closer than most
people and you would have been able to dream link. And dreamlinks are very
special because then you can come back and you can you can speak at length
with this other person about the dream experience. And that's the other thing is
like people who have very common stress dreams all the time, they want to
talk about everything that was in the dream. You know, what did the
owl mean? Or, as mister Freud would say, what did the cigar
mean? Right? So you say, well, you come back from a
lucid dream and it all has meaning too, but it but it's you know,
it's like it has meaning for you. You know what did it mean
to you? So you know, it's very hard to like go to a
psychologist say and say, oh, I had this this lucid dream. I
would like you you'd explain it to me. I mean you could do that,
and I'm sure, I'm sure that they'll take a shot at it.
But you know, it's like you're you're the best interpreter of this dream.
It's a very it's a very personal encounter, right. So I mean if
you, if you, if you do a dream link with someone, a
shared dream, you know you can talk about it together and probably get more
out of it. Because they are they are going to be they are going
to be very very lucid. They're going to be very very direct. You
know, they're not going to have a whole lot of hidden meetings. But
there there are keys to be opened in all of this because it's a new
experience for you. It's it's a new encounter. And so while there might
be not a not a whole lot of symbolism in in a lucid dream as
opposed to another dream, there would still be a lot of unraveling or or
or unpacking to do with the other end. So I think, I think
when you come back from a lucid dream, you want to go into a
lower level meditation where you're you're reflecting inwardly, reflecting on it without without engaging
the analytical mind initially, just letting your inner your inner consciousness absorb it and
digest it and grab a hold of it and encapsulate it and when you've done
that to some degree, then you can get up and then you can begin
to analyze it analytically. What does it mean regarding the never ending journey of
the hero inside you? Yeah? See, so the never ending journey of
the hero inside you is your dream self. You know, it is your
inner spirit or consciousness that can step outside you and take these great journeys.
And that journey never ends because that that dream walker inside you you see,
is pure energy. It is it is conscious energy, and it will never
die, It will never be destroyed, It will never end, you know.
And and u as said in the bog bog Gida, written thousands of
years ago in India, it is the part of you that uh that that
precedes all, it ends all it is. It is a part of you
that never was born and never will die. It just is. It is
pure conscious energy. And that that dream walker inside you um is um is
on a is A is on a journey that keeps going around and around and
around circles within circles. So you think of the hero's journey the here,
the arc of the hero's journey tends to be in literature or in psychology,
around circle where you accept a call with the journey, and you embark,
and then you have you have a challenge right off a gate to be to
be encountered, and you get past the initial gate, and then you go
through where you're dealing with supernatural forces and an enemy and allies, and then
you come to the midway point where you have the deep abyss of the soul,
and then you begin the hero's arc of recovery back homeward. And then
you return home, you know, and and this and this hero ark of
the journey, supposedly you become transformed into a greater person, you know,
and and you're not the person you were at the beginning. You return home
a hero, you know, with with great abilities and insight from having done
the journey. Well, this happens in every lucid dream. It happens over
and over and over, this ark of the journey. Moreover, your life
is like that. Your whole life is the arc of a hero's journey.
And you will eventually eventually complete the journey and go home. Now what does
home mean, Well, it's not necessarily Ithaca or going back to Kansas.
It is returning, in this case, back to the source of all creation.
So upon physical death. You will return home to home base, and
then you'll start the whole thing again. So you see, it's like getting
on a musical carousel that you know, you up and down on these horses
and then the music stops, and then you just get on another horse and
the music starts again, and this will go on forever. Can you We've
got a few minutes left. Can you do you have any lucid dreams that
you have had that you could share as an example? Oh? Any um,
But they're very personal. A lot of times in my dreams, I'm
encountering people that I don't know in this physical world. And the interesting thing
about these kind of dreams is that when you become aware that you're you're meeting
with a interesting cast of characters assembled only during this dream escape is that you
can return to them and they're there, and then you you understand that you're
in a dream, and then you come to understand that they understand that they're
in a dream, and then you come to understand that you're all beginning to
like have this dream together in that sense, you're it's a shared dream,
right, So these dream characters, you know, not people of of of
of the daytime experience are are kind of like, um, I don't know.
I wouldn't say they were like a dream world people, but they're there.
There are people that do not occupy your waking hours. So then you
become aware of people that are going through the same experience as you, and
and you're gathering together, and people will typically have their first lucid dream where
they go to what's called the upper room and they all sit in a circle
and then someone comes out and speaks to them. You know. That's that's
a classic example of a lucid dream, which is a shared dream. Well,
the kind of dreams I have is like I keep encountering these people and
then I later on find out that they're out there. I mean, they're
there. I just haven't physically met them yet. They're out there, you
know. So I've come to meet some of them, and some of these
people I seem to have a lot of past life we call with them,
you know. So I guess what I'm saying is in a lot of my
lucid dreams, I've I've reconnected with some of my soul cluster groups that I
keep returning with, and I have many life times in common with these people,
it is. It's been a huge resource to talk to them. Only
a couple three, you know, but it's it's really significant because because they
know me better than on physical analytical level, I know myself. Well.
This has been really fascinating, definitely something I'm gonna try to start working with
more to try to induce more of the lucid dreaming. Moving forward. Now,
is the book available yet? Yes, it's available. You can get
it online. I think you can order it through a bookstore. If they
don't. Haven't becomes from Red Feather, which is part of Shiver Publishing in
Pennsylvania, and it's now out there. I think that it's actually on sale
online right now at Amazon, if I can use them as an example.
And his Companion is on sale if this one isn't. So um. Yeah,
And I think that it's important for people to understand their dream and begin
doing dream work, because you go back as early as you know, two
thousand BC in Egypt they were they were inducing dreams for insight, you know,
and in the Greeks, you know, like one thousand BC, they
were forming dream dictionaries and they actually had dream temples. And then of course
we had the Morpheus experience mysteries. I mean, people for many, many
centuries have been using their dreams as a way of learning more about themselves and
the world around them. Fantastic. Well, I just want to thank you
so much for coming on tonight talking about this. Hope people will pick up
the book. I'm certainly going to look into this more myself because there's a
lot of work that I want to do so and definitely when you're when your
other books start coming out, especially as we mentioned earlier about the Elemental and
Nature Spirits one, I definitely want to talk to you on that one.
Oh yeah, you bet you. That sounds like fun. Well, thank
you and thank you everybody for tuning into another edition of the Paranormal UK Radio
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