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our director. The voice of God is Derek jan How are you? Oh
good, good good? Lots of stuff going on. You've been in contact
with people in Latvia. What can you tell us about the Canucks? Should
be very happy, Donnie. This schaltender they got twenty two year old Artur
Sea Lovs five and one at the world for Latvia. He's won his last
five starts down He's six games. He has started nine twenty seven to eight
percentage. He's doing an incredible job. Oversea's done. They're playing Sweden,
the Latians in the quarterfinals. Canada is playing Finland today in the quarterfinals.
And who do you talk to with the Latians. I just got off the
phone with the GM of Latvia. Rudolph's Calabtis Rudolph's calab Look. I talked
to the guy. You started laughing while I was talking to him about you
guys, both you and Henderson were laughing. I hunted him down and you
know how hard it is to get a number in Latvia. It's hard.
It took me, honestly, it's hard. I've never contacted anyone in Latvia
before. It was really hard. I had to spend a lot of tossed
on him. And this GM Rudolph's. This guy, I'm telling you,
is absolutely, unequivocally, one hundred percent really impressed with Sea Lovs, with
his age, his maturity, youth. Donnie, he was the backup last
year. This year he's number one. He talked about the future is bright
for this kid for the Latvia their program. Donnie Arter's herby a guy you
and I interviewed many years ago in Vancouver as the goalie coach. Irbe is
over the moon with Sea loves as well, so it's it's a really neat
story for the Canucks right now. Talk to Rudolph's and see if we can
get Arters on the show working on because he is a wonderful interview Okay,
Donnie remember that. I remember I remember going in the Canucks dressing room and
the interviewing Irby. You were there, we were all there. Wasn't there
when you were interviewed. You and I were there at the practice. I
remember seeing you there when irbody was there. Listen. He was a great
interview done. He was a really good interview archers Irbey. Anyways, the
Canucks should be really happy with this uh goldtender. What's going to happen with
him next year? Sea loves the way he expect abbots fird. He expect
him to be the backup with Thatcher, Demko and Vancouver. Two thoughts,
Donnie, don't rush him. Let him go to Abby, be the number
one guys he had ton of or be the backup to Dempco. But the
backup from Dempco is going to have to give you twenty to twenty five games.
Dempco can't do sixty five seventy seventy five games. He can't do it.
His body's not there for that. You need a good twenty twenty five
games from your backup. Can he be the guy? I don't know?
All right, Um, so we look forward to that. Uh yeah,
those results from the World Championships. All right, A lot going on are
we're going to get into Vegas and Dallas last night, Jamie Ben I don't
know what he's what he was thinking there, and we'll talk about that in
a moment or later on in the show. But we wanted to do this
promote what's happening at eleven o'clock on our show today, and that's that Luke
Shen is going to join us right now. Leaf's defenseman, Luke Shan.
He in the summer. In July, becomes an unobstricted free agent, and
there is talk out there, of course, that the Canucks will attempt to
acquire him for a third time. Yep, your your opinion of that.
I think you're correct when you say that. But here's the problem for the
Canucks. Luke Shan went to Toronto, was involved in a pretty good decent
playoff run, and also he did really well they're Donny, I I think
you told me his cap hit was eight fifty. That number is gonna go
up, and the Canucks are a capped out team. You're not getting Luke
Shan again at eight fifty. You're just not gonna do it. His number
is gonna go up, and Canucks are not going to get him at eight
fifty. They're a capped out team. We know they're capped problems. They
got they got cap problems from hell. You're not getting Luke at eight fifty.
His numbers going up. And maybe at Lucas put himself in a position
to get termed, Donny, maybe he's put himself in a position to get
termed. Well, I just look at his last the last two teams he's
played with the Canucks and the Leafs. Yep. And he did a great
job partnering with Quick Hughes. He goes to Toronto, does an outstanding job
of partnering with Morgan. Morgan Riley, you know what does that tell you
on that right side, just a calming, stabilizing influence on the more swashbuckling
defense partner. It really seems to work. Talk about resurrecting his career,
I mean not long ago five secret we'll talk with Luca both that he was
down to the minors in the Annaheim organization down in San Diego, and we're
talking about somebody was a high first round draft pick. Looked like his career,
at least in his NHL career, would have been over. A man.
Has he ever resurrected himself to the point where you make the point,
he's gonna get a raise, He's gonna get a round where his agent,
Ben Hankinson, he's probably he's doing him, He's doing Ben Fabers. I'll
leave it to you that resurrecting his career. I want to tell a quick
story. He was in Vancouver at the trade deadline. This is a few
years back, and Travis Green had sat down with him and told him he'd
looked, it's not gonna work out. You're probably gonna send you to Utica,
Donny. A couple hours later, Good Branson got traded. Chen was
here, steps right in and just the timing of everything in life, and
he goes from pob probably going back to Utica. Go Branson gets traded,
He steps right in. Well, let's let's hit the poll question right now,
because it has to do with Luke Shannon, who again will be our
guest at eleven o'clock today on the show. It's the bet ninety nine dot
net poll question rick every game, every story in sports as a matter of
fact, begins at bet ninety nine dot net. Oh boy does it ever?
The bet ninety nine dot net poll questions should the Canucks acquire Luke Shan
for a third time? And I'm not surprised at sixty two percent say yes
they should get him back. Um. Yeah, he's a fan favorite.
Bruce, Bruce Boudreau loved him. You remember, and then Bruce said in
an interview a couple of weeks ago, done here, a couple of months
ago that Luke schen went into the Canucks office and said, you know,
you guys aren't treating Bruce very good. Keep him. He's a great guy.
So there's a there was a great everywhere Luke goes nowadays, Donny,
everybody loves him. Everybody, Um and very much an old school, stay
at home defenseman, tough top, drops the gloves, stuff that you get
by the wayside in the National Hockey League. It hasn't when it comes to
Luke Shan. The people who are saying no and we've got several commentists in
the Delaney's okay tiring Langley inbox. They're saying, well, you know,
look, Connocks are capped out. Forget about acquiring anybody through free agency because
first of all, it hasn't worked out all that wealth through the year,
so there's that well you shouldn't be gun shy um, but they're just there's
just no money to go around at this point. Why are we talking about
acquiring anybody. The other thing too is you look at their right side and
while there's not a superstar there, it's getting pretty busy, you know,
within the last year. Yes, they traded away Luke shamp but they got
Philipronic, Ethan Bear. We don't know what's happening with Tucker Pullman or Kyle
Burrows or no, no Julson. He's there jet woo. Apparently his game
is approved to the point where people like Ryan Johnson down in Abbotsford just saying
he could push for a job in the NHL. So that right side a
little bitch has been a problem for a long time. The numbers are there
is there a room for Luke Shane at this point, Well, if the
coach loves him and talk it. Absolutely loves Luke Shan when he first got
here. When they traded Luke Shan, there was a big internal discussion in
the Canucks office about him. It wasn't a slam dunk to move him,
and you know, it just wasn't. And they got a third round pick
for him, and good for them. But I wouldn't have done it for
a fourth or fifth because you're not sending a good message. But they got
the third and they did it. But Donnie, I agree with you.
You know he's well liked. But here's the problem. Canucks are capped out.
You know, they don't it right now. If July first came tomorrow,
Donnie, they couldn't do anything. They couldn't do anything. They still
got time here to make a trade or get rid of some bad contracts in
some other ways. Okay, um, in line with that, and we'll
talk about this later. I want to get into Jamie Benn now. But
there's a story out of Chicago that talks about the possibility and this is from
a reliable source. The reporter's name Escapes Scott powers up from the Athletic talking
about the possibility of the Canucks packaging up that eleventh Believe it or not,
folks trading away another first round draft pick. The possibility of the Canucks packaging
up that eleventh round draft pick with a bad contract sending it to Chicago for
the ninth nineteenth pick. We'll talk about that later on. But Jamie Ben,
Ryan, how are you by the way, You've got this video of
what Jamie Ben was up to last night. Yeah, this is He's a
tough player, He's lasted a long time. He's the captain of the Dallas
Stars. He went after the captain of the Vegas Golden Knights really early in
the mark game, like I mean very much. The Star is still in
the series at this point. Down one thing early and this is un characteristic.
What's Jamie thinking here? Like cross checking Mark Stone coming off back surgery
and not that that goes through your mind at that very moment in the neck
and if you look at Mark Stone here, he kind of begs for mercy
for just a split second to it. Don't do it, and Jamie Ben
gets ejected. There's a hearing later on today, and I just think at
that very moment and look, Jamie Ben just just a wonderful hockey player from
from Victoria Peninsula bya hockey all of all of that series over right here,
right here, Like they're down, they're down to nothing, one nothing early
in this game, and then just the tone was set. They weren't going
to win this game. It was really, really a disappointing moment from one
of the few of his career. It's your captain, it's your emotional leader.
He's gone. You know, he played fourteen seconds last night. That's
it. In a game like that, you need your captain in the lineup,
not out of the lineup. The optics don't look good. I'm a
huge Jamie bench man, always happens. Loved the story Late Bloomer Kelowna Rockets,
the whole didn't go in the Battom draft. I loved the story.
And then for this to happen. Look, the optics don't look good.
It's hard to defend him, Donnie, it's hard to defend him. Well.
I think Vegas is one of these teams I think that frustrates you a
lot. They don't get enough credit for being a team that really works hard
and has an edge to it. Yea, and they're they're almost robot like,
And I think it bothers, it bothers the opposition, Like I don't
think they get enough credit for the edge. Hard to play against, Donnie,
hard to play against, hard to play against. They get under teams
skin, mark stone in front of the net. I think it. They
get under a team's skin better than people think. And you see evidence of
it there. So we don't know anything about Jamie Ben at this point.
Do he No? But he he didn't talk to the media last night,
but he did talk this morning and he's using he's claiming, here's the quote.
I would have liked to not fall all on him and use my stick
as a landing point. He didn't fall on him. Yeah, it looks
there. Yeah, he didn't trip and fall on him. He did what
he did. Yeah. And I know some people might think, hey,
the penalty last night match, penalty out of the game all that, that's
probably good enough penalty. But the league has to be looking at it and
going that there was there was an intent to injure there. That's why there's
a year. And I think too, and this is the same thing I
think with Alex Petro Angelo and um Leon Drei Sidle. That's right, that's
a career threatening Jack's the same with Jamie Benn, especially when you again,
it doesn't go through your head at the moment, when you consider Mark Stone's
recent health history, that's that's that's suspendable. Well, and and we we
hear this all the time, right, you got to be controlling your stick.
You can't use your stick as a weapon. Petro Angelo did it to
dry Sido use it as a weapon, Let's be honest. And in this
instance, I think Ben used it in the same kind of way. He's
using it to drive down down onto his head neck where area was a really
and he was defenses to Stefens, right, he was putting his hand up
again, this is over, you win, let's move on. And Jamie
still followed through with the cross check. There what It was a real disappointing
game last night because, like I said, yeah, they were down to
nothing after losing on the road, so there's still there's still hope there.
It's one nothing early, okay, fine, but Jamie Ben did what we
just saw, and then you had Jake Ottinger three goals that were suspect and
he's out of there now. They don't know who's going to start in goal
for game four. No team, but four teams in NHL history have come
back from oh three deficits in the playoffs. No team has ever come back
in a conference final. It's been it happened in a Stanley Cup final way
back when in the forties Least versus Red Wings, but it's never happened in
a conference final. Series is over again. The first period was just so
bad for Dallas with the crowd right into it and Bernie Gold against Auto Balloon
gets popped really early, and it gets popped because of the play of two
of their stars. You're in Ben and Donnie. You know who's getting goaltending
these days Vegas? Yeah, and you know who they're getting it from.
They're getting it from a guy named Aiden Hill from Comox, Vancouver Island,
former Portland winter Hawk. Five straight wins for him, thirty four safe shut
out. They're getting the goaltending wells is not. There's a large part of
me that's pulling for Aiden Hill because I want to see a Canadian goaltenders do
really well because if indeed, you know, Canada ever gets back to the
Olympics, so there's ever the NHL ever gets back to the Olympics. I'm
not sure who that goaltenders got. I'm not saying it's gonna be Aiden Hill,
but at least there's some you know, whole progress and hope with him.
He's taking a look at the goaltenders on the National Hockey League of volks
from a whole, whole lot of Canadians that are kicking. But the way
this kid is in the playoffs, I wanted to talk about two about who
throws debris on a playing surface at a sporting event, you know, speaking
of Aiden Hill, the guy throws popcord the person the fans shouldn't assume it's
a guy. But you know these Dallas fans last night, this is the
twenty one sackers left in the first period, they're throwing all this debris,
beer cans, whatever product truly is, I'm not sure what it is,
but you know the all coins they were throwing on the ice like somebody could
kill themselves. And then the popcorn incident with with Aiden Hill, Well what
wouldn't have been the start of the second period was when play resumed. Who
I don't care like, how had I am? I would never or mad
and hammered, I would never think of throwing debris on a playing surface just
because of the safety aspect. Has it has it ever done any good?
I don't know. Half trick, I get it, this is the incident,
this is the popcorn at Aiden Hill. He'll have about it afterwards.
But yeah, just a really disappointing effort from from Dallas. Looks like it's
going to be Vegas and Florida. Who would have guessed. Here's what's coming
up on the show. Is it just me? DTMZ coming up at in
the eleven o'clock hour, we mentioned Luke Shann. Luke's going to join us
just after eleven o'clock. Do you know where he is? By the way,
She's back home and I'm not sure. I think he is back here.
I think he's hanging out with Rudolphs. I believe in Latvia. Big
Ride. Critter Guy coming up by later this hour and up next to talk
some more hockey. Jeff Patterson from Zacharis and Price. Thanks for tuning in,
folks. Donny and Dolly the team, My Jack, Donny and Dolly
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able auctions dot c A. This I believe is from Scott in the
Delaney's Okay, tiring Langley inbox. We can't criticize Dallas fans. We riot
it. Yeah enough, set good point, Scott. All they're doing is
throwing debris on the ice. Yeah, Vancouver managed to burn down a city
twice. Jeff Patterson joining us now from Sakaris and Price The Rink Why podcast,
The Hockey News. Jeff, thanks for doing this. How are you,
sir? You ever throwing anything on a playing surface at a sporting event.
I don't know if I'm guilty of that, bunny, but look,
we're all the same vintage. Think back to the days of the coliseum.
Remember when the concession stand or the vendor would come around and they would sell
like Coke a cola in a paper cup with the cellosane over tian rap.
Yeah, basically just like it was a projectile. It was basically they're asking
you to throw that stuff on the ice. And then you said the lucky
number program as well, like how many times did we go to Cannuck games
back in the seventies and eighties, like five six times a night, the
play would have to be stopped and they'd have to bring people out to clean
up because things have just been littered. So I think as a society we'd
move forward up until last night in Dallas. But that is something I don't
miss now when I go to hockey games, is people just littering the ice
with all sorts of items from the concession stands. Luke Shan is going to
be on our show at eleven o'clock, Jeff, what are your thoughts on
the possibility of the Knocks acquiring Luke Shan for a third time. Donny,
I'd been pretty clear through this one that as much as I respect and I
respect the hell out of Luke Shan as a person and a player, and
everything that you've seen and heard about him is absolutely true. All those players
in the locker rooms they love the guy. The fact that it looked like
his NHL career was over and now he's gonna be a coveted free agent,
Like, what a redemption story for him him. He was playing well for
the Canucks, he was playing well for the Leaves in the playoffs. I've
said all along, though, I just felt it was time for the Canucks
to move on rather than sort of chasing the past again. They haven't been
good enough with Lucchen in years gone by, and it's probably time to move
forward. He's going to be thirty four in November, I believe it is.
But then I stopped to think, and what is that right side of
the Vancouver Canucks defense? What does it look like? And I think we
all agree that Philip Haronick will be the lead dog there. I think Tyler
Myers is going to be back, just based on the contractual situation and the
bonus. And so can they afford Ethan Bear? Do they want Ethan Bear
back? And Rick, I know you've been talking about the fact that the
two sides have been talking, but they haven't got a deal done yet.
And ultimately, where would lucchen slot in, Because I think at this stage
of his career, luc Shan realized that he's going to be sought after and
he wants to play. So if you bring Ethan Bear back, are you
signing Luke Shan to be depth because I just think at this stage of his
career that's not a role that he wants. But we know that Rick Talkett
loved him. We heard Rick Talkee talk about the need for toughness. Certainly
sounds like they're going to move on from Kyle Burrows. So I'm kind of
a backtrack my initial stance that I could see a world in which Luke Shannon
is here bringing all of those elements of toughness and leadership. But again,
I'm still having a real tough time figuring out what does the right side of
the Vancouver Cannucks defense look like next season? Jeff, first time we're going
to talk to you about Vitelli crabs off bolting to the KHL Russia for a
two year deal. He's no longer going to be with the Canucks. Your
thoughts on him leaving Vancouver not surprised. Rick Talcket probably would have driven him
to the airport if Rick had been around here, and I don't think kraushoffs
around here either. But look, he just wasn't a Rick Talkeet guy.
He wanted a second lease on life, but it didn't work for him with
the Rangers. He got the trade he was looking for. He had friends
and countrymen here, Boh, this is a team that had opportunities, and
yet he was a healthy scratch eight times and only played sixteen games after the
trade from the New York Rangers. A goal of him an assist, the
goal banked in off seth Jones on a power play, So no even strength
scoring for Vatally crofts Off. And look, you had a chance. He
can't see her and say he didn't have opportunities. Talcket played him with Lias
Petterson for a couple of games for crying out loud. So he just didn't
really seem like a guy that ever grasped the chances that were there for him.
And you know, it's a competitive league, and if you don't make
the most of your opportunities, they're gonna find somebody that will. And so
when Aiden mcdonnah turned pro, you know he got to play in front of
a guy that was an open draft pick back in his day. And just
yeah, I mean the hunger didn't seem to be there, certainly not the
hunger to play Rick Tucket's style, winning board battles and getting in on the
fourth check and being aggressive and all those types of things. So you know,
mean, do something, Donnie. I was screaming that repeatedly watching Vatally
crofts Off because at the end of the day, he can't come away from
the rink thinking like, oh, remember that one or in the second period
where it looked promising and then nothing happened, like this team's gonna get better.
You can't have guys that are you thinking back to one play in the
middle of the hockey game that kind of stuck with you but ultimately didn't amount
too much, And that kind of summed up the sixteen games that we saw
from Metelly Crofts off. So I'm not gonna write him off. He's twenty
three, but I think it would be pretty low odds to think that there
will be another NHL act for him in the years ahead. Jeff Patrick Alvin
told the Swedish newspaper last week he loves Leo Carlson. Well, he's gonna
try and move up and get him, but that's gonna be tough. And
now a report the Canucks could go down help Chicago out, give away a
bad contract, you know, trying to figure out what the Canucks are going
to do with that eleventh overall pick is it's getting harder and harder to figure
out are they actually gonna take that eleventh pick? Well, I want to
see the magic act that would allow Patrick Elvin to move up to number three.
Possible, possible, like pulling a rabbit. First of all, i'd
love to see him at the draft with him pop had. I think that
would be an incredible look. But you know, you'd need to put them
more than a rabbit out of it to make something like that happen. They
just don't have the assets. Unless we're talking about Elias Peterson involved in a
trade like that, I don't think that's going to happen. So look,
I am of the opinion that if there was a way that they could trade
back in the draft, but make sure that they have a first round pick.
I don't want them trading out of the first round entirely, but I
do think that I'm open to the idea of them trading back, And so
that report out of Chicago certainly was food for thought. I don't think it
has to be the black Hawks, but the black Hawks have a ton of
draft capital. The black Hawks, I think, are going to be motivated
if they could. They gonna get Controbradard. If they could get the eleventh
overall pick as well, you know, that would speed the rebuild in a
hurry. So if the Caducks were to move back in the draft and either
use that as an opportunity to get off one of these bad contracts or to
pick up more draft capital that you could then use as a sweetener, you
know, I think these are the types of things the Canuck fans have to
be prepared for. This team needs to get cap compliant. You can't just
wave a magic one that your salary cap and make it happen. And so,
whether it is and we've gone through all the possibilities, whether it's a
bio, whether it's a sweetener, whether it's retaining salary, all those paths
you're going to lead to pain to some degree. And if you don't like
any of those, then I think you better be open to the idea of
that eleventh overall pick being in play in some fashion your old stomping grounds.
Jeff. Camloops Memorial Cup starts on Friday, first game as Quebec versus Camloops.
I would imagine that brings back some memories for you. Very self servingly.
Donnie Radio and L played the nineteen ninety five Memorial Cup final. In
fact, they played their day of programming on the holiday Monday was all three
of the Memorial Cup Finals back to back to back from ninety two ninety four,
and I was fortunate enough, I say, and it's crazy to think
back then, I'm twenty five. What were they think of given this young
kid an opportunity to be the play by play voice of the Camelas Plazers.
But they did. It was one of the biggest breaks I ever got for
essionally, and I'll admit I was a little reluctant. I knew that Radio
Onel was replaying the broadcast and I clicked on it on my computer here and
wasn't quite sure what I was going to hear, but I was bracing for
the worst. It actually sounded it all right. That was my first year
in the Western Hockey League, and all things considered, I thought it sounded
okay. But talk about memories flooding back. That team was so incredible.
Ten players touched NHL ice from that cam Loose Blazer's roster. Everybody knows Darcy
Tucker and Jerome mcgiedlin Shane Done, but you know, the list went a
lot deeper than that. Luca Wait, Strudwick Tyson, Nash, Ryan Husker,
who's now in assistant coach in Calgary, Jason Holland had a cup of
coffee with Los Angeles Kings, Like it was so stacked. They went five
for eight on the power play. I didn't remember this, but as I
listed in the Memorial Cup final, they scored five power play goals against the
Detroit Junior Red Wings, who by the way, were coached by Paul Maurice
and Pete Dubor was his assistant coach. And so when I say there were
ten guys from that Blazer's team that touched NHL, Ice down Hay of course
was the head coach. He got to the National Hockey League as well.
Like it was just an absolute fear for the National Hockey League with that Memorial
Cup with On Hey behind the came Loops bench and Paul Maurice and Pete Dabor
doing their thing for the Detroit Junior Red Wings. So they were in pretty
good hands way back then. And of course those two coaches among the two
or the final four in the National Hockey League. So yeah, really excited
from the CDA cam Loops great memories from the spring of nineteen ninety five,
and I hope that they can create some others They're gonna be in tough.
That Seattle team is an absolute beast. But I will say this that cam
Looton beat Seattle twice in the Western Division final, and it's a short form
tournament, they may only have to beat them once, and with home ice
advantage, I can't rule it out. So yeah, from afar, I'm
gonna be cheering. I'll find some blue and orange and white to wear.
But I know cam Loops will do it upright as they did twenty twenty eight
years ago. But that city will be a terrific host and looks like you
know, the weatherly good, the sun will be shining and the hockey will
be terrific. So well, looking forward to to this year's Memorial Cup.
Good memories, and good on you for listening back to yourself or watching you.
I've never done it because I can't, never do, not understand myself
on the air. Good on you for doing that, Jeff, thanks so
much for this. Appreciate it you bet. Jeff Patterson's Harris and Price Rink
White podcast and the Hockey News. Do you do you do that? Do
you ever look back at your um, not even like the show from yesterday,
not even from back in the day. I don't watch myself. I
don't listen to myself. No, I don't do that. Yeah, um,
my problem is I really do because I don't think I'm very good.
And there are people at Belle and Rogers that I agree with. Apparently you're
a legend. You're a legend, Im Patterson stuff. I can't and good
good on Jeff for do I can't. I can't do it. And I
know I'm not the only one who is the same way. I forget what
actor it is has never seen himself in a in a movie. There's some
there's some actor out there's never never watched himself in a movie. I get
it. You're your own worst critic, Okay, pull question. Will update
that next and also that story out of Chicago. But the possibility of the
Conocks and Blackhawks swapping first round draft picks, we'll get into more detail in
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it, okay, but Delanney's okay. Tiring Langley and books. When it
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a submission of the day, Johnny, you know what I'm talking about and
I can't read it on the air. Wow, very good, very very
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I managed, Johnny Depp doesn't watch this movie. Yeah you know you get
sick. Yessee Eisenberg poll question BET ninety nine dot pull question. All right,
here we go are Bett ninety nine dotte that pull question. Should the
Canucks acquire Luke Shan once again for a third time? Sixty two percent say
yes they should? Um, yes, what jump in? I'm telling you
I think that you talk No, No, they talked to you. You're
still focusing on Johnny and Victor. Johnny in Victoria was Peter and bleep.
But anyways, uh, anyways, Johnny Victoria's got his laughing during the break.
Anyways, listen, Luke Shan, he's going to be more expensive.
He had a good lung playoff run, Donny and eight fifty you're not getting
them at was that that hard to go on a bit? And you know
what his agent, Ben Hankinson, he'll be asking for a whole lot more
maybe maybe term, maybe term. They have to make some moves. They
have to move some money, move some money out. There's this side out
of Chicago. And usually when something like this um hits Twitter, hits social
media, you know, hits traditional media, I have a tendency to ignore
it. But this is Scott Powers is from the athletic respected writer out of
Chicago, and he's reporting how and he talks to people in the know and
involved with the Blackhawks organization, how it would make sense for the Blackhawks.
They have that first overall pick, pretty sure they're gonna take Connor, but
dark they also have the nineteenth pick. They've got eight picks through the first
three rounds. He's reporting how it would make sense for the black Hawks to
trade that nineteenth pick to move up in the in the draft in order to
get some support for Connor Badart, hopefully offensive support. They haven't exactly got
the greatest line up in the world for Connor Badard to join. So he
believes Scott Powers that the target would be Vancouver at number eleven because Vancouver as
is so desperate to get rid of so many what you want to call bad
contracts, and how it would makes sense for the Canucks to package up that
number eleven a pick with a Connor Garland, a Broadbsterer, maybe a Tyler
Myers and send it to Chicago get that nineteenth pick and maybe a pick later
on. We mentioned the eight picks in the first three rounds. I think
you have four second rounders. How that might make sense for both sides.
Yeah, and Donnie, here's here's my thing. I hope I explained that
one. Yeah, you did, you did. Here's where the Cannucks are
stuck. First of all, they had three picks in the top forty five.
And this is what a deep, deep, deep draft, Donnie.
They traded a first and second for your buddy. They're philip Hernic. They
don't have any blue chip difference making prospects in Avesburg. I say keep eleven.
You got to rebuild a stock the cupboards in Avesburg at big time,
Donnie, find other ways, get creative, that to get rid of your
bad contracts. And if at the end of the day the draft comes and
you haven't gotten rid of these bad contracts, well then you better call the
owner and say, we have no choice. We gotta do some buyouts.
That's the only choice they got if they can't get rid of the bad contracts.
But take the eleventh pick and a deep draft, you're gonna get a
good player. Donnie. I agree with you, and people know who watched
the show. I'm all for a rebuild, or at least I was when
I thought there was a possibility it would make sense. Yeah, But you
and I and everybody else in the Vancouver hockey market connect Nation have been hearing
for so long, even going back to the previous regime. Maybe go back
to Mike Gillis about bold moves. Oh, we've also been hearing for a
long time from this group, the Patrick Alvin group. We got a clear
cap space. Do you just mentioned the word creative? Creative? You got
to get creative, and I think this move would make sense if the Canucks
felt and you tell me you're more of a draft nick than I am.
The difference between the eleventh overall pick and the nineteenth overall pick. Can you
still get something of high quality at nineteen that you might get at eleven.
If they feel that way, then that this move would make spense makes sense,
especially if they could get a second or a third rounder from Chicago as
well and then get, you know, create some cap room by moving on,
moving on from one of the bad contracts. The story's out there,
that's why we're talking about it. Lacaramackie is their first ever pick, Alvina
Rutherford. Right, So you got a chance, you're to you get a
guy at eleven that's gonna be really, really good in a deep draft.
Do it. And here's the other one, Donny, when you talk about
this regime, um, you look at the five bad contracts that everybody talks
about, Garland, Besser Myers, Oyella Miller. Three of those are the
previous regime and two three of the two of those were in one horrible trade
Oriell and Garland. And so these are the guys who've been trying to get
rid of for years and years and years, and it seems like it anyway.
Yeah, it seems like it. So yeah, you know what I
And again going back to what I was talking about bold moves, bold moves.
How many really bold bold moves? You know, franchise changing? The
last one was the Oel trade, Donny, that was the last bold move,
bold positive moves. How about how about that? I mean, how
many have we have we seen? And we you know, they talk so
much about clearing cap space, we haven't really seen any significant This would be
a significant move. I'm not against it. I'd love to see them nail
that eleven overall pick, but I don't think they'd get much blowback if they
put their money where their mouth is because there's all this talk about the cap
space, you know, do something creative. If it wasn't mind that,
if it wasn't a deep draft, on I'm with you, move back,
but man, you're gonna get a really good player at eleven, really good
player. But you say, if it wasn't a deep draft, is it
deep enough that you could get something quality at nineteen? We know it.
Eleven they're gonna get a good player. And here's the other thing for you,
Donnie. The Hockey News just rated the Cannucks the twenty eighth best farm
system, and yet that's bad. So when your farm system is ranked twenty
eighth or to thirty two teams, don't you think you should be stocks piloting
the draft picks? Well, okay, but if you were to get the
nineteenth overall pick plus a second rounder in that deal, then you know,
at least Years had number of rounds and they gave it up for heronic right,
well, maybe all the more reason to try to get another second rounder.
Again, the story, the story is out there. I don't think
I don't think there would be a lot of blowback if they actually did something
they've been talking about from one time, and that's making a bold move in
order to create cap space, and part of what you might be able to
do, part of what you might be able to do with that cap spaces
reacquire someone like Luke Shannon, Donny other free. I think that eleventh overall
pick is going to be a real nice one. No, I think myself,
as somebody's fallow this team for long time, I'd be okay, okay
either way, keep that eleventh of the pick. But if you make that
bold move, creative move where you increased a little very at least the number
of draft picks. I think a lot of people would be okay with it.
Okay, we're good. Well, you've got business. Yep, I've
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Guy, Donnie Delie the team on check. All right, just I had
a big ride the Twitter Guy. A Happy birthday to a family friend.
Don Weaver grew up with my brother Dave and um Johnny and Victoria Delaney's okay,
tiring Langley inbox Johnny you were hot. And now he comes up with
this. Donnie probably had a pet dinosaur when he was a kid. Too
obvious, Too obvious, and it kind of hurts too. I am getting
up there here's a guy who's not getting up there, the young fresh Ryan
Henderson. Although you've gone on some off the year, you've gone on some
old man rants re lately big time. Yeah, well I was. I
was very angry with Jamie Ben last night's ducking the media. I don't care
what age you are. Even Jamie would admit that that's lame, not a
smart thing to do. Oh, you're talking about ducking the media. Actual
ducking the media last night. I don't know what the deal is with these
athletes Dylan Brooks during the NBA playoffs. Jamie, you talked this morning,
So what's the big deal? The big deal is you're the captain of the
team. You did something stupid. You need to answer for it last night,
not the day after, because you know why, you know what happens.
Then instead of you answering for it, your coach has to answer for
it, answer for your distraction. And they all defended him, and then
Peter de Boor last night said I'm not throwing him under the bus. He
said, I'm not piling on. Two times he said it, and he
said, quit asking. I'm not gonna I'm gonna I'm not gonna pile on
my player. They love been respected, the good Victoria kid. But he's
the captain of the team. Even that was a bad moment last night,
Duck in the media, it's lame, big ratitude on top of the top
of the incident, which of course was more. Maybe maybe he felt he
was still emotional at the time and didn't want to and you're right, perfect
role he talks. Maybe he just felt he wouldn't say the right thing.
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the Lions unveiling their new look fog uniforms this weekend against Saskatchewan. And I
do need to gray we should Yeah, I do need to mention Matt Baker
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They're putting out daily videos, recaps what's going on, interviews with players,
coaches, et cetera. They're doing other social media content as well. It's
been great stuff. Head to the Lions Twitter, Facebook, website, whatever,
find all their stuff. It's well worth your time. And what's the
YouTube update? Yeah, well this idiot over Hey, hey just stop now
that I know what idiot in camel YouTube. Now it's not YouTube. It
was Johnny Victoria. You don't say you two is now playing we got Wow,
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was just it's not it was just someone flapping his mouth and camel other things.
You shouldn't have been doing it. We know who it was. But
anyways, listen, they haven't announced the band Ryan. They gotta get going.
They gotta get going. Yeah, I'm a little surprised, maybe saying
happened. It's possible. Mick Jagger on his Twitter account yesterday, where he
tweeted himself playing the guitar maybe getting ready. Boy, that's really unusual,
man. You Kidney's five hundred years old. He's playing the guitar. He's
got to be doing it for a reason. He's the Rolling Stones. He
usually played the guitar. He said, he's putting out an album. Yeah,
and that's right. I imagine. I love Mick. Everybody loves Mickey
Mick. I mean, why don't they just do YouTube? The Stones and
McCartney also come on one of your young country acts there? Who would it
be? Who would be a big name? There's a big name playing in
that stadium this Saturday night, sold out? Console. Luke Combs is that
BC place? This? That's the first time I've heard of him. You
just saw the signe driving by the Bootleggers or something. It's just it's the
Bootleg two or something like. Yeah, yeah, I just saw the consored
by Bootlegger. No, he's got a really good cover on his latest album
of the song fast car by Is that Tracy Chapman? That's all sure?
I think you've heard this song really good. Luke Combs is very good.
That Saturday night of BC Place. Can I get to something? Will there
be goats on the roof BC Place? Why? Why? You clearly have
not explored Vancouver Island. It's actually Coombs. It's oh my god, man,
like that's where. Oh okay, let's move. It might be my
worst. Everyone will not look back at this moment. In Bootlegger a store.
Yeah, yeah, but I think Bootlegger refers to like olden days.
Yeah, people smuggling out a bigger store, Donnie back in the day.
It's still around. There's one of Coquitlam Center. There's one in Coquitlam,
Guildford, also Willowbrook. You're looking it up. Oh my god, will
Brooker. Good mall and Langley. I like that mall. By the way,
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I can't remember the Cotnication. I think it is Courtney. Yeah, it's
in the middle of that Saratoga Speeding and great logo nicest logo Combs is near
Parksville. Okay, um check it out. I don't doubt we've done this
before with the coats on the roof. He isn't in a restaurant or something.
With the goats on the market, I believe, okay, as long
as they don't sell goat that. Derek, have you been to Coombs on
the island. Derek's been everywhere. He really has not answering. I believe
it's the market as well. Yeah, it's a market. Yeah, fresh
vegetables. By the way, somebody is a big fan of Luke Combs.
Luke Hombs is the biggest act in country. And I'll be there Saturday nights.
Wow, I'm telling you see again. I'm gonna Willie Nelson. Recently,
there's still one of the biggest acts going that's country is George Strait,
which I don't get. But that's just me. I know that's sacrilege to
say. I did have something else to get to. We're out of time
and I don't want to make no get the uniform as he mentioned. Yeah,
and I was gonna talk because we haven't talked about the Michael Blocks story
from the weekend, and I was gonna get into that because he's getting crazy
offers for his club. He used on his hole in one. It's and
he's got here's the tweet. Here's sixteen hundred unread text messages. He got
a text from Michael Jordan talking about his performance on the weekend at the PGA
Championship. He's got an exemption this weekend. He's got an exemption to the
Canadian Open. And he's a PGA pro at of course in California. It's
amazing story. But we'll get to the al Chris Manson of his club.
Yeah, absolutely yeah. Coming up next though, we talk with former Canucks
defenseman soon to be former Maple Leafs defenseman. That's up in the air.
But Luke schen joined you guys. Next, It's Donnie Dalley, the team
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Shan played a total of twenty six games with the Leaves, a total tot
a season of playoffs at the end of last season after being acquired from Vancouver
thirty three years old, fifteen NHL seasons, Scheduled to become an unrestricted free
agent in July. He's thirty three years old and he joins us, Now,
look, thanks for doing this, sir. How are you good?
How are you guys? Thanks for having me on? Yeah, no problem
at all. We're doing well. Hey, it's been almost two weeks since
the lease. We're eliminated in the postseason, Luke. What he've been up
to since then? Well, yeah, hung around Toronto for just the last
or I guess I've been about a week after the season ended and kind of
got organized there and got the family moved back and we're actually in Vancouver here
just for about a week and a half. Put the kids back in school
for a little while, we got to pack up the place here and then
off to Colonna for the summer. So yeah, it's, you know a
little bit of an earlier, earlier exit in the longer summer. Thank you,
what anticipated, but you know, so it's nice to be back in
Vancouver here for a little bit too, Hey, Luke leaves get knocked off
by Florida. Florida within one win of making it to the Stanley Cup Final,
up three, Oh on Carolina. What do the Panthers do well,
Luke? Well, you know what I mean, I don't know. It's
I feel like, you know, Obviously, I've been following a lot of
the headlines and watching the games, and to me, they're I don't know
if they getting up credit like everyone. You know things they they did,
sneak into the playoffs. Well, you know, people forget they won the
President's Troby last year and they made a trade that you know made them better.
Right, So obviously they had their ups and downs in the season,
had some injuries, but they got a lot of players that you know,
you don't hear a lot of um in Canada or out West in particular.
I guess guys like you know who I put with Carniver Hanky scored forty goals,
or Sam Reinhard is obviously a Cooper guy, and um, you know
you talk about Kachuck, but their gs playing extremely well, too big,
heavy decorum, you know, Mark Stall and Cuddhist and obviously Montour fours and
guys like that. But you know they're they're in goaltending right now, like
um, I don't think we've seen in a long time. I was talking,
you know, with the with the teammate the other day. You know,
in hindsight, you're looking back and you're getting goaltending that you maybe haven't
seen since. Uh, I just growing up watching Like I remember Shakier I
think it was in two thousand and three when you're a Vanaheim you know,
like that's probably the last guy saw you know, rolled through the playoffs like
this. So, I mean, they're they're obviously playing a great team game
and uh, you know, they're a hard team to play. They play
the right way, they're they're really hard on the poor check and um,
you know good beneath the goal line and behind the net to make a lot
of play. So yeah, they're a strong team given credit, and uh,
you know, obviously goaltending is a huge backer. Luke, you just
dated yourself then, remembering j s Ja Garrett. Good on you that we
get accused of being old men all the time. Oh no, I just
love it. I love it. Hey, you averaged over seventeen minutes of
ice time in the playoffs with the leaves, and you combine that with what
you did in Vancouver, which everybody was impressed with. Are you playing the
best hockey of your career right now? Well, you know what I mean,
I just yeah, it's part of the part of my mindset. Honestly,
in the last four or five years and working at it towards uh,
you know, just getting better with the age, and like I think it's
it's been kind of documented. I've you know, been working on automodes the
last four or five years and just kind of I don't want to say,
you know, you have to change your game or reinvent your game, but
just kind of involved as as the game's changed, and um, you know,
just try to figure out different ways to move the puck and break the
puck out. And obviously there's a lot of speed involved in today's game,
but you know, maybe if you think the game in different ways where you're
not you know, in foot races every single shift and uh, you know,
just different ways of dissecting the game a little bit, and yeah,
putting a lot of work in and um, you know, I said this
kind of at the end of the year. Maybe maybe there's you know,
ninety five percent in the league or players in the league that decline after the
age of thirty, and there's five percent who get better, while my mindset
is to try to be in at five percent, and um, you know,
obviously really enjoying it. It's been it's been fun. My career has
been you know, a lot of ups and downs, and um, you
know, at the end of the day, it's all it's all kind of
worked itself out. So really enjoyed it. And um, I don't know
about you know, best talk in my career, but I'm definitely trying to
try to improve with age and and uh, always something to work on.
Look, you said something there, and you're not the first player to say
this on our show. What does Adam Oates do for you? Well,
I mean I could go on forever. He's first of all, I don't
think I'd be in the NHL with out him, And that's that's truthfully speaking.
I mean when I first started talking to him, I was in San
Diego and I actually just got traded or I was about to get traded,
uh, and I have to start in Utica. And I actually called Ryan
Johnson and Trent Call when I first got there, and I said, hey,
can I bring Adam Oats in here and skate you know before and after
you know, the Utica comments practices with with Oats if I bring him in,
and they were nice enough to let him in there, and ever since,
Centimen working with him. But I think just a lot of things,
Uh, you know, not to get too nerdy or detail. But one
of the things that he taught me was, um, you know, in
his mind one of the one of the hardest play in hockey is you know,
going a demand, going back for a puck like off off, a
dump in or retrieval, because you're taking in all this information. It's you
know, first of all, as the puck spitting or is it rolling?
And like as your goalie in the net, where is your partners, your
centim in there? Um your fortune? There for truckers on you and trying
to you know, eliminate you, and you know you got to protect yourself
and where's there F two and F three? There's always all the stuff you're
taking in and uh, well protecting yourself. And at the end of the
day, you can if you move the puck five to ten feet and break
the guys out, then you know that's that's kind of puck moving, right,
And everyone's looking for a puck moving defenseman and reality there's probably only twenty
to twenty five of them in the NHL. Guys who can you know,
like your Quinn Hugheses or Morgan Riley's or maccars where you guys actually physically skip
to pop out and you know, cann exit with their with their feet,
but the rest of the guys, you know, you gotta move the pots
five and ten feet and put it on the tape and go from there.
So he just kind of changed my mentality, I think a lot of the
a lot of stuff earlier on in my career. I was always kind of
taught to not handle the pock and you know, throw it off the glass
or just get it out of the zone and live to fight another day.
Where you know, he kind of you know, taught me where no,
we gotta work on this. You gotta you gotta move the pock and you
know that's just one thing amongst others. But um yeah, he's uh,
he's got a wide range of guys from you know, the Koutrovs to Michaels
McDavid's of the world. And when I was one of the first questions when
I started working with them, like, well, what are you gonna do
with me? When I when I hear you got these guys and yeah there's
something for every guy. And uh, yeah, he's he's been excellent for
me. And I know, uh, you know, for about had a
lot of success with them, and uh, Connor Garland uses them. So
yeah, he's uh, he's good and uh thankful to get the opportunity to
work with him. Luke, take us back to the NHL trade deadline.
Uh, you know, it was a very tough decision by the Canucks.
There was a lot of people that didn't want to move you uh, you
wanted to stay as well. How tough of a time was that your wife
was expecting any day around the trade deadline? How tough of a time was
at Yeah, you know what it was. It was obviously just the timing
of everything. Um, you know, when you're when you're going into the
trade deadline, you know you're obviously selfishly thinking, well, you know what
what would be the best fit and best situation and uh, you know,
who has the best chance of winning. There's all these factors that go into
you know, the on ice. But then when you factor in your family,
um, you know, and we had we had two kids and then
one on the way, so you know, and she was due literally I
think it was five days after the deadline. So yeah, there was a
lot of stress going into that. Just obviously, you know, you can't
pick up the family and move but I, um, you know, I
think everything was you know, handled as good as it could be. Obviously,
you know, talking uh Patrick and Jim going into it, they they
were aware of the situation, and you know, I'm sure on their end,
if if they were going to trade me along, I'm sure they would
have liked it to happen sooner. But you know, at the end of
the day, you can't always force those things. And and on Toronto's end,
I couldn't have gone to a better spot as far as you know,
my family getting take care of Kyle Dubis is unbelievable, and you know,
helping, helping, making sure everyone was taken care of, and you know,
their assistance to just make sure everything was lined up, and it kind
of really took the stress off things. So at the end of the day,
you know, I'm grateful for you know, my time in Vancouver and
m I said, a stressful situation the moment, but at the end,
you know, typically everything works itself out, all right. Here's a million
dollars question, Luke, you're a uf FAI if you don't sign in Toronto
and if you hit July first, is Vancouver on your list of teams that
you would love to sign with. I knew that question was coming. I
was prepared for coming into the college, figured i'd be asked for it.
No, but you know, I just like I said, I've I've always
enjoyed my time in Vancouver. Um you know, obviously that's why I signed
there the second time, right is is because I enjoyed it that much the
first time, and obviously passionate fan base, and I thought I've always been
treated really really fairly by the by the fan base, by the media,
and you know, the organization's uh great. But in saying that, I
have no idea. I mean, first of all, I'm sure you know,
they've got their own plans of what they need to accomplish, and you
know, I think they've always talked about, you know, getting cap space
and getting younger, and um, you know the right side. You know,
they got Bear and they traded for Heronic and everything do So I I
know, I'm first of all, uh you know, I love my time
in Toronto as well too, So that's who I'm under contract with for the
next little bit. But looking back in my career, I I definitely uh,
you know, I had from great memories in Vancouver and Uh, you
know, it's always it's always been a special place to me, you know,
being a Colonna guy in the summertime and following the Canucks and um,
you know, being at you know, the team and BC where everyone follows.
It's uh, it's been a special place. But where the heck knows
what their plans are. And obviously, uh, you know, I I
like I said, I really uh, you know, enjoyed things in Toronto.
And we'll see where that shakes yourself out. First, is there an
NHL player who is it a Colonna guy in the summer, you know,
anybody? You know what about ten years ago, I always say this,
we would have had a team that you know, if you would have put
that Cologna summer team in the playoffs, I think we would have won the
Cup every year because it's you looked at and and now everyone's retired. So
that's you had guys like you know, Heatley and gets laugh and Webber and
you know, Carry Price and Seabrook and Duncan Keith and all these guys,
Andrew Ladd and the list was on and on, and all of a sudden,
you know, we're finding ourselves. You're a little bit short handed.
So a lot of guys are hanging out there and retired life now. So
things have changed a little bit. In Colonna, there's still you know,
a handful of guys, but nothing like it once was. Hey, uh
Luke, you mentioned Kyle Dubis and how well you were treated by him,
and during your second go round with the least you surprised things didn't work out
for him in Toronto. I mean, obviously everyone knew going into the end
there that is contract is up. I don't think that was you know any
see Curt in terms of you know, what the media knew about it,
and obviously people within the organization. So yeah, at the end of the
day, Um, you know, business is business, and I obviously we're
we're not in on what goes on behind the scenes, but um, you
know, obviously, uh I think, you know, I, like I
said, I was grateful for how how I was treated personally, and I
think, uh, you know, after the trade deadline, he put a
good team on the ice and you know, if if you would have looked
at our roster compared to all you know, anyone's, he would have put
ours up against anyone. So yeah, I think I think obviously he did
a good job and uh, but then in saying that, the business side
is uh sometimes you know, it gets in the way from a player's standpoint,
a coach of standpoint, management standpoint, that's there's always uh, you
know, the hockey side of things, and there's a business side of things.
So obviously that didn't work itself out, and well, who knows where
will end up. But obviously, you know, Brendan Shanahan has has been
around the NHL for a long time too, and as a very smart hockey
man and knows what he's doing, and um, you know, obviously,
I just hope it works out for everyone involved. And at the end of
the day, everyone's really good people and understands the game and how to treat
people, and um, you know, it's a good culture there, and
I think at the end of the day, you know, look back and
I hopefully it works out for everyone. Three young kids. Now, you're
gonna have a busy summer, Luke on top of the UA, Yeah,
yeah, exactly, I know, yus. It's crazy how times have changed
in the summertime and us to be a little bit different now. I think
it's probably go to bed early because you're waking up at six in the morning
to chase kids round. So, yeah, summers have changed and it's changed,
but um, yeah, you know it's I always remember, you know,
guys earlier on in my career and I date myself again. But you
know, when I played with guys like Roundswall, Boshman and Nick Androposs and
Curtis jos From guys like that, they're always brought their kids in the room
after games or you know, like a big win or you know, the
odd practice. And I thought, wow, you know, if I could
ever do that down the road, if I'm ever you know, able to
hang on long enough in the NHL to do that, I'd be pretty cool
experience for your kids. Remember that here I am, I'm the older guy
with the kids, and it's it's crazy. I'll comfortable circle and uh Man
and time flies. But three I've got three kids. You won't believe all
fast it flies. I don't have to tell you that. Look, this
has been great. We'll get you back on. Really appreciate it. Yeah,
thanks for having many guys. I appreciate it. You bet. Uh
Luke Shin right now leaves defense, but we'll see what happens in a bit.
I have three kids, you've got a couple. I look at people
with three kids now or even just multiple. How was that me? How
did you do it? Did that actually happen? Hey? Interesting what he
talked about with Adam oats. Yes, and we've had other players on and
they the same thing that that they're under Adamo's guidance during the off season or
even during the season. Adam Os is a forward and he was a coach
on the National Hockey League. But he is just so brainy, so smart.
He wasn't drafted and he'll tell you himself we should get him on the
show. Not a great skater by any means. He got by with grains
and like like very few people, Hockey Hall of Famer, well over a
point of game, over a thousand points, over a thousand games. He's
pretty special player, pretty special hockey person. And kudos for him, Luke
forgetting help from Adam. How do you extend your career in the thirties,
Donny eat right, sleep right? You got to be in the gym all
the time. Get help, get help and extend his career. He's extended
his career. He's thirty three now, but at the Raid he's going he's
going to keep playing because he wants to get better every day. Look date
the poll question next a BET ninety nine poll question. Donny and Dully the
team on check Donnie and Dolly, the team is supported bo as dot CA.
So I was in your business where you can help? All right?
Just before we get to the bet ninety nine dot net poll question, I
want to mention that the Western Lacrosse Association season begins tonight with the Brunaby Lakers
in Langley at the LC to take on the Thunder. Tomorrow it's Nanaimo at
New West Shamrocks. Remember our bosses all hang out in Victoria, right checks
a Victoria station In case you didn't, no, rate, I do know
that on Friday, Shammy's at home to the aforementioned Thunder, Berards and Lakers
that day as well in Burnaby go Salmon Bellies out at Queen's Park, Timberman
play the ad Nax on Saturday. All right, I could go on and
on. I'm not going to go through the whole schedule here. Good,
but look, we talk or we have talked about the Vancover Warriors, the
National Lacrosse League, Great Lacrosse, so many of those players play in the
Western Lacrosse. The feeders a whole lot of history, a whole lot of
history there. As we said, bet nine poll question, All right,
let's go, all right, get her up or bet ninety nine done that
poll question. Should the Canucks acquire Luke Schen for a third time? Oh
no, surprise here, sixty three percent say yes. And after listening to
Luke Schen moments ago, it's hard that guy's gonna end up when he's done
Donnie playing, He's gonna end up in coaching or broadcasting or broadcasting or part
of a development, you know, running the development for a team. He
is a class act. Uh just I could listen to him talk hockey for
hours upon hours. Well, his recall is incredible and he mentioned we joked,
but he mentioned jas Jaguara and that goes back to you know, the
early mid nineties. So um, that's that that that's pretty impressive. It
just seems seems like he's aware of every team, every player in the National
Hockey League and had some great things to say about the Florida Panthers nothing but
respect. Yeah, seventeenth overall. But he made he made the point too
that you know, they finished seventeenth in the overall standings for the Flames who
ditched. Everybody finished a point ahead of them. But he made the point
about them having won the President's Trophy last year, that's right, and then
making a trade that I didn't even know if you could argue this, making
a trade that made them better Chuck, And it's not all that surprising.
It took them a while to get going, you know, which is we
see with the seventeenth overall in the in the standings, Paul Maurice made a
big difference that Bill's you know today, By the way, the gem in
Florida, one of the candidates for the GM of the Year award in the
NHL. Jim nails there as well. But that was a controversial move,
and they get rid of Andrew Brunett Andrew when the President's Trophy. I know
there was the situation with Quinville there, but incomes Paul Maurice. The rest
is history. One game away from a conference final, so I don't think
the Leaf should be totally embarrassed that they got knocked out by what's proven to
be a very good Ikey team who gave Paul Maurice his first UH got him
into coaching. You Jim Rutherford, your Mutherford right Carolina with with with pro.
Yeah. But he also cut him as a twenty year old in the
Ontario League and he told him to get into coaching. Yeah, it's never
a good thing. You know what, um, you should get into coaching.
It was a tough cut. It was too many good twenty year olds.
And then he said, you know, as a player, you probably
don't want to hear you don't want to hear it as a year old.
You know, you go into the room with the boss, you know,
with the GM or the coach. And the first thing he says is consider
coaching. Consider probably not a good thing. As a player. It worked
out for worked up. You've got business. Yeah, absolutely, I got
business. Episo. Ryan never says, look at the day, Ryan's gotta
give us the tip. He's our boss, Ryan's gotta gives Looking for a
gift for a sports fan, how about an addition here, and hold on
a second. Here, Ryan is the on our boss. Well, he
runs the shows one boss and you know who it is, the guy in
Victoria, rob Germaine. But here in the studio he's always flapping his arms
around telling us what to do. I was gonna say, Jody Vans,
but okay, Rob, Jermaine Boss is the people that tune into this show
is so bad and yet so good our Vans and Steel still pissed at you
about the chips. No, no, I've I've replenished multiple chip piles since
then, a whole lot. Yeah, I have, because I don't want
that. I don't want to on their bad side, but I am upset.
I bought them a nice big bag of hickory sticks. Y. Oh,
they're good. I'm trying to mix it up a bit, and they're
still there. They haven't touched they haven't touched the hickory sticks. Hickory sticks
are good. Why wouldn't they touch a lot of people put them on sandwiches,
in the sandwiches. Yes, I've done the voice here, Donnie.
I actually have a video for you from them if you like the Okay,
sure, well, no, I saw the Linda Steel video ripping into Yeah,
they ripped into you. Good because you stole all the chips. Say
Dey's got another piece of it. Okay, we have we have an update
then if you want to run that. Oh, they're eating the chips,
Johnny vans. Did you know that there is a chip ferry in the studio?
They're hickory to somebody thinks that we don't actually eat these chips, they're
wrong. What will I call that? UMR SMR warrior sho would make at
least it's not bananas, because you know why those attract flies. I wonder
if the chip ferry is Don Taylor. The banana thing is Rick's problem?
Well, at least they notice, they notice you leave banana peels show yeah,
and then there's flies all over the places to appen. You don't want
to piss off? Okay, Linda and Jody? If I got the order
right there, I don't want to. Did you set them? They should
also be thankful Rick doesn't need a banana like they do with the chip in
the mic? Did you don't hear them eating the chips? Yes? Everyone
hurt that So when I eat my apple after I walk away because this guy
complains apple is the hardest. It's hard to eat an apple quietly done thanks
to that Rick. It's really it's the harder the apple, the cruncher,
the noisier. All right, can I go? Here's food? Do you
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Is there any way we can get Donnie and Dolly branded hickory sticks. There's
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No, no, no, you know, Derek, I think Derek wants
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of the pony, Remember that area, So fifteen acts starting with on Saturday,
August nineteenth, TLC. Remember Chasing Waterfalls. Oh great song, my,
my, my, I listened to it all the time. My knowledge
of that song comes from the movie where the Millers, Yes, which why
have they done a sequel of? Where it also set up for a sequel
The Motorcycle cop scene. Yeah, well, yeah, which I know you
enjoy among other scenes. Yeah, the scenes were yeah. August twentieth.
Jennifer Aniston apparently was in that movie. From what I hear August twenty.
August twentieth, Boys to Men Great, Nothing to do with him. My
late sister's favorite band, Bony m oh August twenty third, arguably the greatest
Christmas album of all time. I don't know if they'll be doing that in
August, but imagine well, no, the big album, Okay, it
was huge. Skill August was the big It's one of the best Christmas songs
of all time. It's not debatable. I'm gonna save well, Kate.
I think one of them. I think the big news from this, I
know he's not young. He may be hip, but he's not. August
twenty seven, it's a Sunday, Billy Idol, I'm going. I'm going.
Okay. My buddy Johnny McMahon texted me. He said, Billy Idole,
let's do it. I said, get the tickets, let's go.
So you knew about this. I knew about it, of course I knew
about it. Sixty seven year old Billy Idol best Sunday August twenty seventh.
One of the great acts of the eighties. Rebel Yell a great album.
I think top three best albums of the eighties. Eighties. Yeah, he
was so good in the eighties. Um, August thirtieth. Now, when
I was a kid, I saw this. This is one of these times.
Well I see this. Ben brother used to own a nightclub and there
was this band playing there one night called the Doug Bennett Band. Now Doug
Bennett has left us, the late Doug Benn. That band was Doug in
the Slugs. Yeah, Doug has left us. They have a new singer.
They're gonna be playing at the p and E with the Vso, okay,
little culture for you. August thirtieth. Right, I just heard Making
It Work on the radio the other day. There you go, a great
song. Doug in the Slugs were great, They were really good, but
it was day by day one of the great song. When I saw Blondie
at the Commodore and Diva the club just on their way, same sort of
thing, Tom, why don't you roll your eyes at this? You bring
it up every you know, you do? You know you do? You
see these bands when they've made it, that's not true. I have that
story did explore with Imagine Dragon's. I saw them at Venue on Grahamville with
like two hundred other people, and this is the first time I'm hearing you've
made I've got the ticket stop at home. Okay, all right, Doug
and the Slugs were good, a lot of We're back on that. Pat
Benatar, Oh, she was gone, We're gonna do the show from the
Love is a Dangerfield Feld? Yeah, Roddy Dangerfield Yeah, thirty first Yeah,
okay, Pat Banatar, blast from the past. Okay, I don't
know who this. She had to hit me with your best shot. Yeah.
Yeah, that was a great chong. Was never googled faster, by
the way than this. Never mind, Pat, great guy, great,
she was good, good guy. September first, Who is this Jason dul
Okay, it's from the young kids out there. No, I don't know
him. I think the artist actually that the kids are psyched about. Is
this young Gravy. On August twenty fourth, I know Jason Drula plays what
popped pop, soft pop, R and B pop, give me Billy Idol,
And then it all comes to I'm not mentioning every act now. September
of fourth Blue Rodeo. The band I'm looking for most forward to Billy Billy
Talent on August twenty five. Billy Talent is Billy in the in the in
the Battle of the Billy's Idol wins. I don't know, okay, sure
for long chevity. Even Billy Talent's great. You know what y're you're trying
to do here. You're trying to be U hip different hip. No,
I'm not trying to be hit. I know of a band that you guys
don't know of, and they're not as popular as Billy Idol overall, right,
Billy Talent's like early two thousands. It's not like they're a band that
came out last week. I know this obscure band. It's not a bit
obscure. Okay to me, they are. Now you're starting to really I'm
old yourself from the foot here. I don't band, I don't, I
don't care. Okay, but you know you're these bands out there I keep
going around. Yeah, you know, Oh I don't like them. They're
successful. Come on, every band wants to be successful. Yeah, this
is another one where you're going with this. I'm wasting my time, Okay,
A coming by the Man in August twenty sixth I said, we're not
going through the whole but no, but the movie the Barbie Movies coming out,
so it fits. Okay there you right? Yeah, because they did
the Barbie Girls song, I think, yeah they did. I know that
from when we had well we still have kids, but when they were really
young we listened to I'm a Barbarie Girl. Yeah, in a Barbarie world.
If you want to go through the whole song, Barbie and Ken,
Yeah, that's it. We all knew Barbie and Ken growing up. Yeah,
Ryan Gosling playing can the movie, Yeah, Margot Robbie. As we
move on to birthdays May twenty four, but again August twenty seventh, Idol
birthdays May twenty fourth, we have ten birthdays. The line is set at
nine by Floppy Disk grahams a computer repair and casino in Jerome, Idaho.
Now interesting he owns this computer repair shop. That's not where he got the
nickname from. Floppy Disc Graham nothing to do with computers. We'll talk about
that on another's show. Way we Go. Swedish defenseman spent nine full seasons
with the Predators before are being created to Edmonton February twenty eight, the Tis
Late Flyers, Swedish goalie killed in a car. Kelly Limberg, Yes,
current GM of the Anaheim Ducks. Little ball of hate PDK. Yeah.
Former Red Wings say, I know, I got Badford b former Red Wing
center and now the team's director of amateur scouting, suffered a broken job,
broken nose, broken cheekbone and a concussion at the hands of Claude Lemieux during
the nineteen Yes, Chris Draper, Draper, not Malfi Draper. You're thinking
of a yet Elvis's ex wife and the mother of his late Presley. Yeah,
that's with the two piece singer songwriter from Minnesota who was born with the
name Robert Allen Zimmerman. Prince Prince, No Robert Zimmerman, Bob Zimmerman,
Minnesota. Yeah, I only is the only guy we know his prince.
This is sad. We have people screaming at their television center. You talking
about, come on, one of the great songwriters of all time. Yeah,
okay, his real name is Bob Zimmerman. I didn't know that.
I know he's from Minnesota. Yeah, America, you just worry about Billy
Tallon over there by the way, I am yeah for not knowing Billy Talon.
I've heard ny and I don't know him. Why why would we know?
I've heard of them? American actor played Read Rothchild in Boogie Knights,
cal Notton Junior and Talladega Knights. Portrayed Jerry Buss in Winning Time the Lakers
Dynasty. John C. Right, I'll give it to you jc R.
I call him Canadian comedian and actor born in Edmonton, lived in Calgary,
probably best known as a Vancouver right cheech and John John John what's his first
name? Tommy Tommy, Nikita Trampikin. Didn't like the cheech and right?
Okay, how could I not get that? High school player from Florida chose
a ninth overall by the Raptors at the ninety seven NBA Draft. He won
the NBA scoring title while playing for Orlando it at three and oh four.
McGrady McGrady McGrady, Tracy McGrady, the voice of God coming through as always.
Former Major League pitcher who is now President of Baseball Operations. Friend of
the show for the Mariners, Jay Gee y See. Always get that mixed
up because he's not the GM. He's the president of Basement but you only
hear from him for the most part. Yeah, we just got down to
Seattle of the old the Funny Station. He would do our show no problem
at all, Come up and into the broadcast booth. He's nice, cracking
fan. He's a season ticket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Um, is it just me coming up? Bob Dylan? We mentioned this
eighty two years old. He is from Minnesota. Bob Dylan eighty two is
gonna play us so July sixty five and the album Highways sixty one revisited Bob
Dylan and like a rolling Stone on check where the legends hang out on a
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All right? We're gonna start off here. Uh, Donny Rick, could
you give a shout out to my wife DJ for our belated wedding anniversary.
She's become a big fan of the show overtime, especially enjoys it when you
all start yelling at each other. Thanks. Creed from East Fan Awesome?
Is that him with the hat? No? Okay, so let's go.
We got a Creed there you go, peal at. This is buzz kingman
on the farm in Mount Layman. Drive like a buzz king great picture.
I love this real shot again, Ryan, get it up? What are
you doing? Go on, dear, let me finish driving by the waddling
dog, Lucky to get the last bucket hat buzz Kingman, big fan of
ours on the farm, Donny and Mount Layman. Love that. I love
that. This is just an incredible shot that the colors of the barn and
the tractor. But little Ricky grew up on a farm. It brings back
memories. This is great stuff. I love that picture. I love it
all right, go No, you haven't got another picture? No, we
got tons of Ryan, won't let us show them. We'll show one more
because I'm unprepared here, Nor I told you time tomorrow, tomorrow, time
this. Let's take a break. Yeah, okay, and then we'll readjust
and we'll wrap up the show. In the poll question hopefully fit in some
is it just means next? Donnie Dolty the team my check our thanks to
Luke Shan joining us earlier today. And that leads to our bet ninety nine
dot net poll question. Every game begins at bet ninety nine dot net.
Who's this band? I'm listening to the Billy tells coming at you. This
is river below. That's nice. Can we compare this to way wedding?
Stop it? Which is great? Who is just you? That's it?
Dancing with myself? Billy, and you're playing this junk if in the eye
off? Good stuff? Man, right, I can't handle this music,
turn it off. I gotta read the poll question allur bet Donny and I'd
done that pull question. Should the Canucks acquired Luke Shin for a third time?
Sixty three percent say yes, go get him. But I gotta be
honest with you. After listening to Luke on our show, Donny, I
got a little suspicious feeling. He's going back to Toronto. Oh you know
something he does. Listen to the interview. He says, let's see how
things shake out in Toronto first. That was interesting business, all right.
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Jolson, etc. Because they're waiting on Luke Schen. No, they
are going to get Ethan Bear done. Please everybody stop. They are going
to get Ethan Bear done. It's going to It's obviously taken a little bit
longer. Donnie, isn't it amazing they put Luke schen or no Ethan Bear
in Jim Rutherford says, season ticket holder, whatever the letter was, and
they're taken forever to get it done. They're not miles apart, they're not
millions apart. They'll get it done. Luke Shan mentioned something we mentioned earlier
on the show that there's a lot of players now on that right on the
right side of the defense, you know, with with the acquisition of Heronic
and then Jet Woo's emergences, Cole mcquard as well Chris from Burke Mountain.
Is it just me, but Luke already sounds like a coach. If he
comes back to Vancouver, it'll be as a coach. Fingers crossed. This
might be his greatest lasting impact. He sounded like a coach and or a
broadcaster. He can work in hockey for years, Luke Schen when he's done
playing. Yeah, he's become a student of the game. And if you
listen back to the interview, that probably has a lot to do with his
relationship with Adam Oates. Yes, okay, thanks so much for tuning in.
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