1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,639 I learned so much last season, and I think in every experience you do 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,960 learn a lot that you do, whether you'd like to think so or not. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:14,080 And no one's first of all, the very beginning a very good place 4 00:00:14,119 --> 00:00:25,440 to start. And it was when Heather said that, sorry, yeah, 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:45,960 I'm sorry. Ready, Hi, Hello, and welcome to a very special 6 00:00:46,039 --> 00:00:49,439 episode of another Bellotock podcast. Boy am I excited? I am too. 7 00:00:49,719 --> 00:00:54,240 We have in the flash the successor of the Quinn Sea. Although I guess 8 00:00:54,280 --> 00:01:03,320 that was a Heather no sorry, Fraser, he's joining us in studio. 9 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:07,159 The chief stew with the most is, Hi, how are you well? 10 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,120 We have have been drinking, Well, we've been drinking a little bit, 11 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:19,000 but the vibes are the vibes are fine, but they're a little off. 12 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:25,120 Oh I, I have to say, you know, when you came in, 13 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,719 you would like, wow, Wolf. Let me just get the beef 14 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:34,239 out of the way, and then I do want to talk about your accessories. 15 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:40,599 And your scent is fucking unbelievable. It's just crazy beautiful. So I 16 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,159 got a handshake, Pat gott a hug and when we shook if I can 17 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,799 just finish, when we shook hands, you were like you've said some I've 18 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:53,480 been you said and I quote, I've been watching and you've said some horrible 19 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:59,200 things. So that's that's where we're at. Yeah, and then you hug 20 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:04,159 him. Yeah no, no, no, no, okay. Also I 21 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:07,319 listen more than I WOTP, so I don't know if he's saying what. 22 00:02:07,479 --> 00:02:10,879 Okay. This has happened a couple of times when people are like, you've 23 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,439 said some awful things about me. Maybe it's my own delusion, but I'm 24 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:17,960 like, you have to be talking about him that could not have been. 25 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,639 But if you remember any of them will get into them. But just wanted 26 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,159 to say thank you for joining us. We're excited, thank you so much 27 00:02:27,199 --> 00:02:31,240 for having me. So yes, let's start talking about below deck. You 28 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:38,719 are on the show, yep uh. I think a good place to start 29 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:43,800 might be a TikTok that you posted today, I think, or maybe you're 30 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:50,360 cleared off you follow hard. I am actually clueless, but our fans are 31 00:02:50,719 --> 00:02:53,960 obsessed with anything at everything. What was that about? Was that an apology? 32 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:58,439 So so yeah, the TikTok was was a very good question. The 33 00:02:58,479 --> 00:03:06,400 TikTok was Fraser jump opening too audio of him taking ownership of drunk. Oh 34 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,240 no, no, Yeah, it's really well thought about and like it's really 35 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:15,039 deep. Yeah, but okay, so it wasn't. I'll tell you most 36 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:22,639 of the feedback I get from last season is my turbulence with Captain Sandoa, 37 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:30,479 Yeah, Captain Timeshare, And I don't know how to confront it, to 38 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:38,360 be very frank with you, because there's no there's no there's no clarity in 39 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,120 this situation. There, this far along the line. There, she's out 40 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:45,479 of your hair at this point. I mean, will you ever have to 41 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:54,599 work under her again? No? But Bravo con which which dark when listen, 42 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:57,919 It's all fine, it's all fine. There is no bad blood. 43 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,039 But there was no clarity in the season. Yeah. I was doing a 44 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:12,039 job and from one second the next I was on a beach, highly injured. 45 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,560 By the way, I must stop us here, and if you did 46 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:18,560 watch, I had injured my foot the techtok of you jump rob when we're 47 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,399 gonna go back to the season real quick and then we'll get back to that. 48 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,759 Yes, I had really injured my foot. I got drunk, as 49 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,360 we do, went down a well I thought was a slide, but it 50 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:35,519 was a cement slope on my knees and I totally tore the skin off my 51 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,399 foot. I've got the scar can shade later. Anyway, I got back 52 00:04:39,399 --> 00:04:41,639 to the bone. I might want to see a medic because it's I can 53 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,319 see my bone. And the guy was like, yeah, you the bone. 54 00:04:45,399 --> 00:04:48,240 It was the bone sung supposed. But your foot is so infected. 55 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,399 You cannot get sand in this. There is no way you can play on 56 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:54,000 the beach today. And I was like, do you know what, I'm 57 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,680 not too upset about that because the last thing after working for nineteen hours a 58 00:04:57,759 --> 00:05:00,040 day, I want to do is go play volley. Was there pass in 59 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:02,680 it? Like? Oh pass? And I've got amazing pictures for you, 60 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:10,160 like grotesque, Like it's just so much pass for such a yeah, yeah 61 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,360 yeah. And I was like, Okay, I'm not too upset, but 62 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:16,279 it's bad, he said, And this is where it annoys me. Okay, 63 00:05:16,319 --> 00:05:19,639 Madame Sandy was there, Sorry I can't say he was there and I 64 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,519 was here and she was there looking at me, and he goes, you 65 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,720 cannot play. I'm a plaster band aid on it. You cannot play. 66 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:31,040 You cannot, you cannot because it's going to get It's really bad. And 67 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,519 I was like oh Obama, fine, right, she was there looking acknowledging. 68 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:41,319 Next thing I know, I'm on the beach in front of my whole 69 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,639 crew being told that I'm the biggest disappointment to everyone. You're a pariah. 70 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Yeah. Yeah, and I'll take that when it's deserved, but when it's 71 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,920 not, I honestly didn't understand what was going on. I was very confused. 72 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:57,360 Fraser, I have to ask this. I like this. When we're 73 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:00,240 sitting next to each other, you can tap me on the knee to let 74 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,360 me know. That's really nice. So sometimes you're doing an interview, these 75 00:06:04,399 --> 00:06:09,120 events took place, i'd say at least a year ago. Yeah, yeaht 76 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,560 this point, we're talking quite a lot ago. Yeah. Are you still 77 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,959 troubled by it? No? Okay, No, I'm just pested by it, 78 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,360 not pested, but but I'm asked about it a lot. Yeah, 79 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:21,800 but I can't answer more than what I know from back then. Nothing has 80 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,879 changed. Well, okay, so well let's talk about what happened back then. 81 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:32,199 So this this pus pus thing, which you wait, yeah, you'll 82 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:38,800 love it. Why was it edited? It? What? I vaguely you'll 83 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,120 have to forgive us because we so much of this ship. It just all 84 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,399 combines into one. Sandy took great joy in embarrassing Fraser as not being a 85 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,920 basically a participant. Yes, but I recall the edit being very much just 86 00:06:53,519 --> 00:06:58,000 it was kind of like your call, whether or not you wanted to do 87 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,480 it or not, and that's why she was so that. So this this 88 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:05,079 revelation that it was categorically no, you cannot do this, and then her 89 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,240 calling you out seems a little more odd. And if that is the case, 90 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,000 I think you probably do not like Captain Sandy very much because that's just 91 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,319 an objectively awful thing to do to somebody. So how could you like her 92 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:25,360 after that? A lot of our listeners wanted to know, so we saw 93 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,600 you guys bump heads a little bit, or her basically deal with you and 94 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:34,480 her leadership type of Sandy style. Was there any things that we didn't see 95 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:39,319 as viewers with kind of the inner turmoil between you and her? No, 96 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:44,920 everything, And that's what that's what I love the most about the show because 97 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,519 it is real, it is unedited, it is so it is edited because 98 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:56,680 of we filmed twenty four hours for seven weeks. Yeah, but productions not 99 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,480 involved, and I wish there was something I could tell you to say, 100 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,319 Oh, no, this happened, and that's why we're at where we're at. 101 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,879 No, and that never happened. So no. So I'm at the 102 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:11,120 same understanding as you guys. Here we go again with another one of these 103 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,560 people coming in here and saying that production doesn't get involved. I just never 104 00:08:15,639 --> 00:08:20,360 believe that people don't. And people are always like yeah, but like don't, 105 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,800 don't you have to say this? Then I'm like, no, yeah, 106 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:26,519 and do you know what. That's why I'm proud about my what I 107 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,679 do and why I'm on this show because I've worked very hard to be where 108 00:08:31,679 --> 00:08:35,440 I am in my profession and then I get to do that on a TV 109 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,240 on a TV show, which then brings all this other wonderful stuff too. 110 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:41,360 But I work very hard to do what I do and I'm not just going 111 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:45,240 for lunch and I'm not just having a bitch fight with someone on the street 112 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,000 because of whatever. I'm doing a job and I'm doing it to the best 113 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,559 of my ability and it might not be perfect, but that's reality. And 114 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,679 you're going into a reality TV this is reality TV. Okay, Well, 115 00:08:54,759 --> 00:09:00,840 let's talk about how you are not perfect, absolutely not First of all, 116 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,919 route that was too much. I was just kidding. I was just teasing 117 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,320 it, wasting along. It was going to be a segue into this incredible 118 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:16,080 question. Just you wait. You are so good at your job, the 119 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,639 chiefs doing the taking care of the guests. But when you excel in any 120 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:26,080 profession, be at this or finance or whatever, you're awarded with the upgraded 121 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:33,320 responsibility of managing people. Yes, which is a bizarre thing because it's a 122 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,440 completely different skill set. It has nothing to do with the thing you're actually 123 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:41,720 good at. And you were handed quite a bit of a let's call it 124 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,720 a fucking nightmare. Should be remind of last season, Yes, go ahead. 125 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:54,120 We had Milly alsit, we had Alyssa just at each other's fucking throw, 126 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,840 and we had Haley the good Witch. Well, we had Camille Alyssa. 127 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,799 Yes, and what did you call? That's her name? Oh, 128 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:07,559 I didn't know that. I'm for suld listen to more and she's bangers you. 129 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:11,559 And so I have a question, was this in fact your first duty 130 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,679 as a chief stew It was framed that way in the show because that would 131 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,799 seem if it was that's throwing your thewarf And also second part of that question, 132 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:26,559 do you think that that was your biggest like challenge or downfall in the 133 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:30,639 season? Was dealing with the managing part was like my question, So we'll 134 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,320 start with that one. I left season nine and I went back. I 135 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,120 went to a boat and I did my first ever season's chief stew. I 136 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,080 had worked on that boat for two and a half years previously. I knew 137 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,240 that boat better than I knew myself. So when I became chief stew, 138 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:52,279 it was beautiful, immaculate, seamless and divine. M H. Can't quite 139 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,000 say that when I can't choose my crew, though, can I? So 140 00:10:56,159 --> 00:11:01,240 I joined whatever boat that was, and I get even these stews, and 141 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:07,879 we're gonna go with stews quite literally. Anyone, anyone, anybody do you 142 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,320 want? Anyone could have walked on and been like, oh yeah, we 143 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,799 say it all the time. They need to cast the show, the lower 144 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:16,639 ranks of the show. Sorry for you, but they need to just go 145 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:20,000 to a TGI Fridays. I've been in the business for a while. I'm 146 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:22,840 a yachtie. I'm a seerrat, as you guys love to call them. 147 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:28,240 I'm a pure bread sor a bread seer rat. I'm dark, dirty, 148 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:33,039 dingy and disgusting seer rat, but I'm a sea rat. Yeah, don't 149 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:39,240 take some bitch and tci Friday because she's going to do absolutely nothing. Yeah, 150 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,080 what have we seen with Sorry? Yeah, no, no, no, 151 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,120 I have like a background question. Yeah, typically if we were in 152 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:52,000 the real world of yachting, would a chief stew be involved? Absolutely? 153 00:11:52,159 --> 00:11:56,600 Okay, Yeah, I hire my stews and that's important because I guess who 154 00:11:56,639 --> 00:12:01,200 works with them. Well, it ain't Captain Sandy or other. It's me 155 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,120 because I name my team and I'll get the job done because that falls on 156 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,000 me. That's my job. 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Be carn by the name her name is MILLI even 212 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:37,320 me. She's a great I don't know what I really that's embarrassing. She 213 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:42,120 was fantastic. Actually some pipes. She's doing really good. And only fans 214 00:16:42,159 --> 00:16:45,679 the moments, well, yeah, a lot of serets turned only fan I 215 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:52,720 know, yeah, my time might be there. No, I don't think 216 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,200 so. I think what's so what's so awesome about you and having you in 217 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:03,960 here is because I do think that you you are if you it's not solidified 218 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,359 already, it's damn near close to being. You're a kind of a mainstay 219 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,640 on this show. Now. I think that you've comfully, you know, 220 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,279 gotten yourself a couple of seasons. And I think one of the reasons why 221 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,119 you're very very good television. You're very good at your job, but also 222 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,160 as bad as Melie, Lissa aka Camille aka Emelie e Lissa and Alyssa. 223 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:30,200 Were you got given Haley? Yes? And you and Haley are I mean 224 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,279 it's like the fox in the Hound, or like like stepbrothers, or like 225 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,079 any other like great duo of people who love each other. You know she 226 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,440 walks on bulls. Yeah, and I still hood down the dock and I 227 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:45,880 went, fuck me, I was like, I was like, guys, 228 00:17:47,079 --> 00:17:51,319 honestly, it's my first seedn't give me a break. And then I see 229 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,960 this this walking wig. Yeah, it's awesome. She's she's actually hit. 230 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,240 I was just with that. We know, how do you think we know 231 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,240 you're here? I mean, pad Spenny, you should know that I'm here 232 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:11,640 through my Instagram its. Haley is brilliant. She's not she's she is an 233 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,720 amazing friend. She is Doyle. She brings energy, she brings excitement, 234 00:18:15,079 --> 00:18:21,000 enthusiasm. Yeah, and shoes don't need to be perfect, but they need 235 00:18:21,079 --> 00:18:26,000 to say yes and try their best. Love Haley the worst stewardess of every 236 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:32,359 worth my entire life, the worst stewardess. I have to tell. This 237 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,759 story is an amazing story. It's one of my favorites. And they didn't 238 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:40,720 air this and I died a thousand deaths. I said, Haley, quick 239 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:44,240 sticks, mummy's got to do a beach picnic and I forgot to get a 240 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,559 can we really quickly pause? You're speaking a language that I don't really write. 241 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,119 Mummy is me? Well it was one of quick sticks. Oh god, 242 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:59,359 you really have behind and sticks like quick? Okay, just add another 243 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,200 word to so sorry. I was like Haley, We've got to move quickly. 244 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,759 Is that okay? Yeah? And I need' I've forgotten one thing. 245 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,640 Please go grab me a tablecloth for my beach picnic tables. I haven't got 246 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,759 any provisions not giving me any table cloth. Please just grabbed me because we 247 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:22,160 didn't have any, I said, just grab me a bed sheet from the 248 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,839 guests. Just grab a flat sheet and I do a flat sht. No, 249 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,960 I said, a flat sheet to go on top. I don't care. 250 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,759 I haven't got time, So I go do my bits. I come 251 00:19:34,839 --> 00:19:44,319 back and I can. I'm confronted with Haley holding in her two hands a 252 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:52,880 dove in a duvet cover. I looked at her and I said, really, 253 00:19:53,759 --> 00:20:02,200 yeah, and that's why she's so brilliant she has. But she said, 254 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:04,319 yes, she fucking did it. She run down there and she came 255 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,559 to me with a smile. And that's all the matter is positive attitude will 256 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,319 get your pretty fun totally right. But but but but I did. You 257 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,720 don't get that from people. I don't care how good they are. As 258 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:18,920 long as they have an attitude that they want to try and the one and 259 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,240 that they're there to work. That I'm happy and I can help train and 260 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,000 help correct brain cells. But but I can't change attitude and personality. Yeah, 261 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,039 right, which contrary to Alissa who was trying to stage a coup, 262 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:34,000 it was futile. I didn't exist even the opportunity too. But a lot 263 00:20:34,079 --> 00:20:37,200 of our listeners they we had a request for questions. There's a lot of 264 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,559 questions. A bulk of them were asking, you know, what's your future? 265 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:45,039 You're going to be on another incarnation of another version of the show, 266 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:48,200 and a lot of the masks if you are. Have you learned a lot 267 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:52,680 from last season where the management style that I think you are odds with last 268 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:59,279 season was friendship verse kind of being a manager and they can't be no together. 269 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:03,839 No, I learned a lot, a hell of a lot. Before 270 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,240 you say what you learn? Can we talk about something I'm just a little 271 00:21:08,279 --> 00:21:11,720 anxious about. I just I just want to you are all over the I'm 272 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:14,839 scared of this. No, no, no, I've just I spoked a 273 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,079 little parts. I'm a little anxious. What I don't want to do the 274 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,319 thing where we're talking, We're talking and then you're going I need to go, 275 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:23,880 you know what I mean. No, I've canceled my dinner. Oh 276 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,319 you have. Yeah, I was like, these pictures want to chat? 277 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,920 Okay, because that would have been bad work you and I. You know, 278 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,200 so all right, get what are your less We're gonna get drunk. 279 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:41,400 I mean, we're gonna drink lots of Yeah. So lessons learned, lessons 280 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:49,319 learned. I learned so much last season. And I think in every experience 281 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,680 you do learn a lot that you do, whether you'd like to think so 282 00:21:52,839 --> 00:21:59,240 or not. And no one's first of all beginning a very good place to 283 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:11,160 start, and was when Heather said that, sorry, yeah, I'm sorry. 284 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:17,039 I learned that very early on. As anyway, so so so so 285 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,400 I walked onto this vessel Kidders quite literally shitting myself. And you didn't see 286 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,160 enough of this the the chief stew or your initial season. Oh no, 287 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,359 in my in my real in my in my on my boat before it was 288 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,000 beautiful. I came onto this boat and I thought, what have I done? 289 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,400 It was a new boat, it was the big. It was the 290 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:44,680 largest vessel that Blowdeck have ever charted. Okay, the largest crew that they'd 291 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,160 ever had. And here's me, as my first experience on blow Deck, 292 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:55,480 as the first male stew in my very little time being a yachtie doing this 293 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:59,200 job, and I thought it is And I was like, you know what, 294 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Okay, one believes in me. It might not be me, but 295 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:06,960 someone does. My first night, I went to bed and I I was 296 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,440 not in a good way. I woke up and I went to go to 297 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:12,039 the producers and I said, I can't. I'm honestly at this point where 298 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:15,880 I can't. I have to go had filming but gun, yeah, we 299 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960 were on date, so we had dust done the provisions. It was the 300 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:21,839 morning after and I said, guys, I'm really I need to talk to 301 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:25,079 someone now because I don't know if I can do it, because I'm I 302 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,720 don't know where to begin. So, guys, just to give you some 303 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,920 like a little bit of and understanding what how it works. You join the 304 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:37,640 vessel. It has been ransacked. Why Okay, we always wonder this. 305 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:41,960 It looks like Gerbils have taken over it for a while. It's like this 306 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,720 crazy thing that happened. Why do they leave a boat? It's a TV 307 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,720 show. The boat has been left perfect. Things happen after that. But 308 00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:57,000 also to prepare the vessel, they have to take down every deckhead, everything 309 00:23:57,079 --> 00:24:00,039 has to be rewired. You've got cameras, every You've got the whole bos. 310 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:04,759 But then everything is then ransack together for us. So we join with 311 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,720 twenty four hours of learning your crew, learning of us. So you've been 312 00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:12,400 on before. I don't know where a knife and fork is, let alone 313 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,640 a glasses for some water for my guests are arriving twenty four hours. I 314 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:22,960 also have to put away provisions for six weeks. You start with it. 315 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:27,279 We call an og provisions. You're you do the nuclear goods. The nuclear 316 00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:33,039 goods so you've got so that's not like every charter. That's like a six 317 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,960 hour provision put away. Okay. I also don't know where she is. 318 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,359 Your co workers, I don't know them. I don't know myself at this 319 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,839 point, I don't know where I am. Lee is dying well, Lee's 320 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,720 upset. I don't know share. But I've got twenty four hours to make 321 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:57,640 this vessel charter worthy of charter guests. And I thought to myself, I 322 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,200 just can't. I just oh no. And I'm a perfectionist. So if 323 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,759 I can't do it brilliantly, then I actually don't. But I thought, 324 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:11,079 I've never quit before. I can't do this to myself. That's what did 325 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:12,240 the producers tell you when you say that? Because I assume you're not. 326 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:17,279 We've actually seen it on film with Matt the chef. He went to produce 327 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,640 and said, I can't do this. I want to quit. So well, 328 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,799 I never I just wanted someone to look at me in the face and 329 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,880 say shut Yeah, and someone did, because yeah, that guy faked like 330 00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:30,839 multiple injuries. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I need I needed. I 331 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,400 guess I wanted recognition that I was going through a hard time. How today, 332 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,079 Yeah, And Matt asked us to stop talking about it. By the 333 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,319 way, Oh cool, Well let's talk about what Matt did was fake many 334 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,960 injuries. And then when they were like you keep getting hurt a lot, 335 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:48,720 He's like, all right, fine, I just I don't want to do 336 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:55,559 it anymore. Yeah, that experience sounds so panic and douce him to have 337 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,599 to learn about and clean it up because it was in a stage of absolute 338 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,839 disarray. It seems like an impossibility. I think it probably is. There's 339 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,240 no way you can do all that work. And the crew at that point 340 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,960 was Eddie as the boson. Yeah, and then Heather. I mean yes, 341 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,720 but I wasn't chief then, so I was just following a lead. 342 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:18,519 But when I joined, this is a new vessel. No one had seen 343 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:22,480 this but before so you know, Eddie had been on the SIA on Sienna 344 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:27,200 and he could have possibly guided. When I joined, David, we didn't 345 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,759 a ship. When I been my first lunch on, I was looking for 346 00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:37,640 place matts, knives and forks and cutlery and sorry and glasses while the guests 347 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,359 whilst they were getting ready to come for lunch. So like, that's the 348 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,119 level we're going, we're at. But going back to the original question of 349 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,000 what I learned, I went through ship that season I realized that I needed 350 00:26:51,279 --> 00:27:00,559 to, which basically what was difficult is that I had a really good crew 351 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,720 for half of the season and we worked phenomenally well that season. Not only 352 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:08,359 did we make beautifully wonderful tips, but we never had a bad comment from 353 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,720 a single guest, which is unheard of in the franchise. Trust me, 354 00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:22,359 I've done my research. Unheard of. However, then someone else joins when 355 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,960 the whole pack is doing quite well and things start you know, are you 356 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:30,599 talking about their captain? You know? And so I'm like, why is 357 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,519 everything going so well? But then things are not, and I'm like, 358 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,799 hold on, I look after the guests because they're the one who they pay 359 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,240 and they matter, right, But then other things are happening, and I'm 360 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:45,640 like, we just pointed a bad decision. But I was like, just 361 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:48,759 ignore that and let's just continue what we do because we're doing it well and 362 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,559 right, and we're getting our tips, we're getting paid, and we're doing 363 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:55,559 really well and everyone's happy. Yeah. Meanwhile, it turns out apparently you've 364 00:27:55,559 --> 00:28:02,559 got to suck dick even when you don't want to. Yeah, tell to 365 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,599 suck. No, Sorry, it turns out you've got to sometimes praise. 366 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:14,359 Sorry, man, it turns out that sometimes when when hierarchy needs it. 367 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Well, again, I'm frazy. So it's just it's a disgusting thing when 368 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,640 you get into that world that there is politicking that is so like many many 369 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:29,559 of all adverse to the like intentions or motives of people who are I don't 370 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:33,079 know, not so jaded. It's not a ship on Sandy Parade. But 371 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:37,440 no, she is our at least favorite captain though right, it used to 372 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,279 be Captain Lee, but he's Oh, can I ask a lead question? 373 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,279 Please? Oh? I love this leg toughing. Did you cry when Lee 374 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,640 left the boat? Yeah? Like a baby. I'm so crazy. Isn't 375 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,599 that mental? You don't really know him, so that's the stuff you don't 376 00:28:53,720 --> 00:29:00,200 see. Yeah, so what you don't see is someone who really want to 377 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:07,359 be there. Yeah, okay, came you guys with someone who is trying, 378 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,400 And I can I can definitely relate that as in not with myself, 379 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,839 but with other people I've seen, like you know for example, And I 380 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:22,319 hated making this reference, but my grandfather, he he was he wasn't able 381 00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:26,359 to be physical for the for the loss of his last you know, a 382 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,680 few years, and that really bothered him because he was so manly there. 383 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,599 And so I would see this and the push, the drive and the enthusiasm 384 00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:38,960 given from my captain was so there and so passionate and he wanted it so 385 00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,599 badly, but things were so bad for him. It was just hard to 386 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,920 see that, and I think, do you know what I was also just 387 00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:49,480 like I was like for me, I hate what I'm doing, I have 388 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,000 I want to go home, but you are my little rock at the moment. 389 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,960 I'm telling me to go every day, right, And then he left 390 00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:59,200 and then I was, you know, dealing with the race. So we 391 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,839 were a positive reinforcement for you. Okay, this all right? This is 392 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,240 shocking me because yeah, yeah, go ahead. He comes off. I'm 393 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:12,039 triggered by Lee because he reminds me of every male figure that was addict to 394 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:17,799 me as a younger person. Like it's just it's almost like he's from a 395 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,640 different time. I totally get that. But everything is very like everybody. 396 00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:26,319 It's a threat now and I'm not going to talk about how days around my 397 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,680 helmet, and so I just don't like that management style. I prefer your 398 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,599 management style, which is I'm gonna be pleasant, nice and dare I say, 399 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:37,240 kind of your friend until you show me that I can't fuck me off, 400 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,240 and then things are gonna go out. He starts off with I don't 401 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:44,440 like you. He doesn't say that, but there is definitely a line to 402 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:52,640 do it. Think about it. That's been these things from day one. 403 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,720 Correct you you you're not gonna change things now, and if you do, 404 00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:00,440 it's gonna be like, who's this fit? Well, I we should evolve 405 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,839 even as we get older. I would say there's no expiry date when evolving. 406 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:11,960 We joke what death? That is very much the expira date of involve 407 00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,480 But who knows what happens. I mean, you know, I don't, 408 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,759 so maybe it's not. That is a very very good reason and a beautiful 409 00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,839 reason to show. I mean it's not listen, I know totally. It's 410 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,920 like, I see him in prison is very sad. I was so embarrassed 411 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:33,880 watching back. I was like, what is wrong with you? I was 412 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,799 so emotional. I was so emotional and I was like, the last thing 413 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,440 I want to do is cry. And I cried on that stupid bitch. 414 00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:42,759 Camille left and I was like wrong, and I was like, oh, 415 00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:47,960 did I get it? Yeah, nineteen hour days of work, my crew 416 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:52,960 and my life, you're you're you're in a black site. Essentially, I've 417 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,079 no idea. I can't tell my left and right. Can I ask this? 418 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,880 I think a lot of listeners would wonder, like, we all sit 419 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,640 in front of the television every night below deck people, we love it. 420 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,559 You as a participant on the show, how do you watch the show? 421 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,039 Are there episodes that you know are coming up where you're like, yeah, 422 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:12,839 I'm not watching that one. I've no idea, I have no idea what's 423 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,519 coming up. So every week is just like immense suspense. Did anything sharky 424 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,960 were like, oh, yeah, fuck, how much can you can you 425 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:27,640 share? Yeah, Camille's behavior because she acted like an absolute angel around me. 426 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,279 Yeah, if I was there and I'm assuming that she clocked me and 427 00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:36,240 being yeah, and then I'd hear a Lissa come to me and be like, 428 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,480 oh my god, and you know, yap yeap, yeap, and 429 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:40,240 I'm not for yapping. I'd just shut it down. We're here to work. 430 00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:43,920 When I do best friends just work. And it was like and she 431 00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:45,799 was like dubbing her own every day, and I was like, I'm not 432 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,880 seeing this until I see it. So then but then you get you know, 433 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,000 then you get highlighted on situation. See then you start maybe peering over 434 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,160 here just to check on things. And then I saw it and I was 435 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,799 like, oh wait, this this is awful. Yeah, but I but 436 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,039 watching it was was embarrassing for me. I wish I'd seen more there. 437 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:09,359 It goes into that hole you're becoming a man, a manager thing. Yeah, 438 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,680 under the umbrella of you managing these people in this specific specific situation, 439 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,119 you have to turn into a kind of pet detective as such. You have 440 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,720 to figure out hate that side of it, what's going on here. It's 441 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,759 like a game of clue. Yes, but in an ideal world, I 442 00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:34,839 would have a crew that I we're talking about that. What I mean by 443 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,240 that is that as long as I can see the job getting done, I 444 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:43,160 can see my guests paying us very well in terms of tips, and everyone 445 00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:45,079 is doing that, Like, then it's fine. If I've got two girls 446 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,240 hating each other, well then welcome to yachting. If I've got ten girls 447 00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:53,680 hating each other, welcome to yachting. I don't give a shit, yeh. 448 00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:57,400 I honestly don't care. Yeah, I know you guys are, but 449 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,839 then when people start getting involved, than I have to care. Yeah, 450 00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:07,199 comment, I love that this is so it could be more like further away 451 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,679 from being buried. I mean, but I appreciate his candor. And when 452 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,559 you're saying like it's tough to confront that criticism, why do you even feel 453 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:20,440 the need to confront it at all? Just dismiss it. Everybody that watched 454 00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:22,119 the show was like, this is insane, and I agree with that. 455 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,719 But he, I don't know. I assume, like all of us, 456 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,639 we probably lie and say we don't, but we read the comments and they 457 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:32,239 do have an effect on us. And Sandy does have people than Andy Cohen. 458 00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:36,480 Oh did you know they're just trolls? Forget it, Daisy, Yeah, 459 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,360 you say, And well, it's important what you think because you, 460 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,239 guys, you're the reason why we've got a show, you know. And 461 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,400 it's also important for us to know how it's being edited. To see what 462 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:51,679 you guys are seeing and understanding. Yeah, because how we live it, 463 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,199 it's very difficult to how you see it. And so when I listen to 464 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,519 your say you guys, but I mean, like fans comments, I'm like, 465 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:02,360 we're going foward. Maybe I should be hyper aware of this because they're 466 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:09,559 not seeing the truth and us for the sake of comedy, you have to 467 00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:16,159 make quick judgments, often incorrect incorrect judgments, evaluations in our case for a 468 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,639 laugh. But a lot of people I think they're just like they see one 469 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,599 scene. For example, I forget who the person was. Nice Chase. 470 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:30,559 He was on the last season of Sailing Yea and he had a bad episode 471 00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:35,400 where he was saying that you want to take shots off a girl's breast and 472 00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,480 he went from being a fan favorite as you would look in any comments to 473 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:46,440 say, and these things are very perilous because there's often like either no accuracy 474 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,760 or just a failure of understanding of what's going on. This is not an 475 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,360 example of this, but this is an example of us getting it correct. 476 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,239 But something like you see Captain Glenn on below deck sailing, he goes away 477 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:07,039 from the yard. People think he kills ladies of the name. People don't. 478 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,199 We were correct about that, But those are the kind of assumptions that 479 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:15,559 people can get to kind of haphazard. So do we have any fan questions? 480 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:17,000 I mean, we've been rattling off a bunch. I think we're just 481 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:22,480 having a fun kind of clarify another thing which really picked me off. Yeah, 482 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:27,519 everyone's like, phraser, why didn't you fire Camille day one? First 483 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,480 of all, if you were watching, said fans, you understand that I 484 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:36,519 wasn't her boss until Sandy made me her full time boss. And when made 485 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,880 when I was her full time boss, I fired her the next day. 486 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,960 So everyone's like, phrase, you fucking shit manager, Yeah, get rid 487 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:51,840 of Well, if you were watching couch Human, yeah you would understand. 488 00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:55,159 But I wasn't in charge of her, and Ross was still trying to have 489 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,800 sex with her. He wasn't. Yeah, yeah, he was like we 490 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:05,639 and fire hurt needs to go, and then I'm like, also, I'm 491 00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:10,440 not the captain as much as kind of, and I still can't find them. 492 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,199 I've gotta wait for someone else to do. Yeah, right, but 493 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,480 get your facts right. Fans totally agree. All right. So you mentioned 494 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:22,239 Ross. So there are some people that we see on this show that obviously 495 00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:25,440 they are good at their job, they've been doing it, and somehow they 496 00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:30,960 got roped into being filmed on a television show that Arizon Bravo, and you 497 00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:36,360 can clearly see, at least I can as a viewer who's cut out for 498 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:42,239 it and who's not. So do you know when you're filming, like oh, 499 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,440 that this is the last time they'll ever be on television, Like this 500 00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:51,119 might be too much for them? Can you No? I think I think 501 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:55,039 it's important. I think it's very important understand that when we do this job, 502 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,199 we enter into it a zone of do your job and do it right, 503 00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:05,920 because if you do it wrong, the whole world is going to see 504 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,639 you doing your This is my professional career. If I mess up the whole 505 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,199 world, I've not got a job anymore. So I don't think about anyone 506 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,719 else what they're doing afterwards, what they're doing during I know that I'm going 507 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,760 to do my job, and if they're not right for all right, fit 508 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,119 for the job or doing it well, I couldn't give. And I'm like, 509 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,000 yeah, you can be honest. I don't care. What I care 510 00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:31,400 is I'm going to, like, I don't think that far ahead. I 511 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,639 don't think about anyone else's career. The work comes before the show, it 512 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,000 does. I don't make people understand that because a lot of people join this 513 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:40,719 show or apply to this show. Guys. It's the biggest ick in my 514 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,840 life to find out that my friends who are on the show have applied. 515 00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:54,039 Oh okay, that's yeah, like for fuck's sake, like like and this, 516 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,239 I know this sounds really awful, but like I can't like fame hungry 517 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,079 people make me upset and not upset, but I'm just like, don't I 518 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,599 think when the work comes before the show? That's usually yea because it's so 519 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:13,639 successful. But it's such a unique reality experience where you can kind of do 520 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,480 that because if you're on something like vander Pump Rules, you are there, 521 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:17,159 you show up to a scene, and I guess you're like, well, 522 00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:20,880 I guess I got a fight with my best friend to ye. But but 523 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,199 you don't need to do that. You just need to do what you've been 524 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,519 doing before you get on. And authenticity is the only thing that like that 525 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:31,840 actually works. It works and it matters in a job. Again, we're 526 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:38,760 not turning up twice a week to film where twenty four hours for six intensive 527 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:44,360 weeks. I don't care who you are, what your plans are, just 528 00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:46,920 do the job. Yeah. I think that's why it's gone well so far 529 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,880 for me because I don't give a shit about that. Keep that up, 530 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,559 because because that's why you're going to be on the Shoke forever. All right. 531 00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:55,800 So one of the questions, we probably can't your next tap and when 532 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,960 you you probably can't use to still flag this in case I did. Sorry, 533 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:05,320 okay. So one thing that we always used to be fascinated with with 534 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,639 Kate, Queen of the Seat, when she'd come on the show and we'd 535 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,320 ask her is she was? She did? I think she was six seasons 536 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,719 and at that point she was hanging out with Chrissy Teagan six seasons, hanging 537 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:22,400 out with Oh yeah seas time, so it would be what the hell? 538 00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:31,679 Yeah, she always did, so for me it was always how do you 539 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:37,639 do this? Where you can hang out at John Legends and Chrissy Teagan's house 540 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,760 for the weekend and then they say it's time to film, and then you 541 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:45,559 need to get coffee at six in the morning for paying customers and be able 542 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,159 to flip into that role of being kind of a celebrity in your own right 543 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,280 and flip a switch and just say this is my role as service. Is 544 00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:59,079 that something that you've thought about how you've got to find a balance. Yes, 545 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,280 yeah, and a very good point to make, because I think it's 546 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:07,320 I think it's ignored. This pump it it's ignored. Don't crime me a 547 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:14,280 river, but get Since doing Below Deck and it's still but justin Timber great 548 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:21,639 album it since doing the show has meant that I've missed out on some beautiful 549 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,599 jobs, I mean talking like the best jobs in the industry because of the 550 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,760 show. So I've got through all the interviews, worked on it, done 551 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,840 my staff and then the owner finds out that I've been on Below Deck and 552 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,559 says, I'm just not going to do it. I have a question. 553 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:45,599 Yeah, So with being on Below Deck and one thing that has been missing 554 00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:51,920 in your tenure on the show is no romantic interests is that something that you've 555 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,119 pushed off just as a professional decision because you're not getting get in the mark. 556 00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:59,119 You want to be zero focused. What a fantastic question, I gotta 557 00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:05,840 say, Patrick, I am really impressed by the Yeah. Thanks fantastic. 558 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,280 They've not hooks me up with anyone. I'm desperate. Yeah, I'm like, 559 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,400 hum, what about when nights go out and you all binge, drink 560 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,719 and throw up on each other? Why don't you find any First of first 561 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,079 of all, let's listen wind back and the last two years I've been doing 562 00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:22,280 it, Yeah, has been in COVID. The only person I can make 563 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,360 out with is like a table or a chair awaited with a mask. I'm 564 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,000 sure that sounds adorable. No, I'm really for you guys to have people 565 00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:36,880 to intermingle with. Sign me up, throw someone on. There's going to 566 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,159 to it? Because I thought that was one of your guideline. Who would 567 00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:45,719 I've got with so far? Well, there are that kid that was constantly 568 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:51,280 talking about how he was going to do it. The kid he was talking 569 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,599 about how he was going to come Ka, Kaya wasn't on that ball. 570 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,519 No, it was the new kid that came on and he was and he 571 00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:59,480 was like he was throwing a little shad at you. I think he was 572 00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:01,559 like, I think we could be doing this better if I remember correctly. 573 00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,599 All right, let's get to the next question. By the way, such 574 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:10,079 a gracious guess answering all our questions. If you don't mind, I don't 575 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,960 know how long we can have you. Can we ask some listener questions? 576 00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:16,880 All right? These might be really stupid. Feel free to completely push them. 577 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,920 Hey, thanks for being here, Frasier having me all right, I'm 578 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,480 I'm too old to be able to read these questions anyway, So hold on, 579 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,840 you guys talk about I don't know what was going on in there. 580 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:34,719 What happened when Frasier when Yeah, I was like babysitting for me? What 581 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,280 were you doing? I was out here talking to Kaylin and Kaylen was like, 582 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:49,320 I think he fucking hates you. I was like, okay, okay, 583 00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:55,000 this is from Jessica Lynn. Great question. Really wait to hear this. 584 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,119 Who have you met in the below deck world that you despise? Now 585 00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:04,679 we've covered one already, but I think that we can roll that into there 586 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,480 is someone Okay, Okay, actually I won't say, but damn it actively 587 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:16,000 despise. Yeah, okay, to the point where I'm like, okay, 588 00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:21,440 someone that's been on the shop, yeah, okay, and not mine there 589 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,079 again, okay male or female? No, no, no, he's given 590 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:29,360 us a Netflix. I get ready. But we can roll that into something. 591 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,960 I hope you can talk about it. Thank you can. Worst guest 592 00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:38,800 of last season. Oh this is really awful. And I don't know how 593 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,679 to phrase any differently, but the Indian guests we heard, Yeah, well 594 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,280 they were pretty rude, pretty rude. It was it was it was. 595 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,400 It was harrowing. Yeah, yeah, your phone died. I need to 596 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,480 go get my phone so we can ask you our listener questions. Oh you 597 00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,000 can grab a Kalen. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. So 598 00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,159 can you get into a little bit a lot? So it seemed like they 599 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:06,480 were more rude to the chef. I'm trying. Everything seemed like they kept 600 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,199 if my memory serves everything needs to be five star. That was their little 601 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,159 saying their mantra five star, we expect five star, five star? Am 602 00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,480 I correct in remembering that? Are these the people that smoked the cigars wrong 603 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:28,760 backwards? Yeah? Stars? They were looking at then maybe the Yeah, 604 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:36,360 okay, so you know Stu our our admin is he's doing a great job, 605 00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:42,159 but not good enough. He's telling everybody that they're hot. Okay, 606 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,440 do you want to you know, Rachel Griffith, this is just I don't 607 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,880 like the implication of this. Do you want to work with Captain hot pants? 608 00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,039 Captain Jason jas is a good pal of mine. I like Jason. 609 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,679 We talk a lot. How long have you known him since Bravo con last 610 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,480 Yeah? Okay, but we a lot, very supportive of each other. 611 00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:05,079 How many captains at any given time or helming these yachts? Is it that 612 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,079 small of a world where you know each other? No, it's just well, 613 00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:09,679 no, it's just below deck. You know what. Once we're in 614 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:15,480 this hype, then we either support each other we don't. All right, 615 00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:17,719 So this is these are this is a great set. Well you're a funny 616 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,599 one. Who so Jason is a good boy. So that's nice to know. 617 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,280 Yeah. When we used to cover Bachelor and now we hate it, 618 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,599 But there was a thing called Bachelor Nation, and there were so many seasons 619 00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:32,000 and so many different versions of the show. In any given year, there 620 00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:36,599 could be thirty forty cast members and they all kind of found each other and 621 00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:42,320 it was a shared experience, and it would seem the only other series that 622 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,280 I think that Rivals that is now the Below Deck World. But you know 623 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:52,039 what, we only come together because we're the is not awful, the worst 624 00:46:52,199 --> 00:47:02,159 paid street quite literally home that we're quite literally we're normal people who have to 625 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,039 still hustle. Yeah, whereas you've got these housewives all the wise living the 626 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:13,719 real TV dream and we're just like rummaging through rubbish daily to get our fits. 627 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,159 That side were together and we have not. We have a lot of 628 00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:21,480 fantastic fit questions, okay, and I want to get to as many as 629 00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:22,880 we can, but I think that we should do rapid fire. Okay, 630 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:30,719 great, okay, so just be quick. Sticks you've learned something today, 631 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:37,239 Meredith. Laura Way asks also, don't you see the names? Well? 632 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,320 They like to hear their names. Go on, Meredith, was it annoying 633 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,599 that Captain Lee called you mister ollend or the entire season? Did Camille get 634 00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:52,599 a bad edit? No? What's the most disgusting thing? This is from 635 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:57,960 Malory Rosenda's beautiful name. What is the most disgusting thing you've ever seen a 636 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:08,239 guest do? On Charter? I don't think they pay you enough What was 637 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,480 the story before season ten? This is from Sean Bergen. What was the 638 00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:15,840 story before season ten? When you said Rachel was evil this season? Did 639 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,480 she get a protected edit? How do you feel about Rachel? Now? 640 00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:30,440 We two questions there. You can pass too, know we can ext here 641 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,960 we go. I had a really good season with Chef Rachel, and then 642 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,559 I watched it back and I was like, we'll go because and I'll tell 643 00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:45,719 quickly. I was there and my crew were there waiting to take plates out. 644 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,400 And if there's no plate to go in my hand, then whose fault 645 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,840 is it? Really? If my guest at the table and your food's not 646 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,599 coming out of my hand is here, who's folds it? And try and 647 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,159 blame me? Yeah, but a bit you did and it worked. But 648 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,440 like trying a little bit of lacking of empathy on your part though, right 649 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:08,360 because she was being attacked by Nightmare. She's we love her, She's she's 650 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,960 a little coop, all right, So I have a question to jump off 651 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,280 that last one. Right, No, we got a couple more. We 652 00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:17,519 We're gonna have a couple of drinks. We're gonna have fun. Get start 653 00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:20,800 off. We're gonna have a couple of cocktails, we get real. I'm 654 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,079 ready for it. Okay, So we've watched a couple of especially the last 655 00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:30,519 couple episodes of Sailing, where charter gas are fighting, and I theorize I 656 00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:35,800 feel a good question coming on right now because they are spending a lot of 657 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,039 money and there's a lot of pressure to take in every part of enjoyment, 658 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,079 and then for that pressure kind of closes in on them and there begins in 659 00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:49,719 fighting. Have you seen that in your own experience as a chief steward? 660 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,800 Like, these people should all be having a wonderful time and now why are 661 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,599 they at each other's throats? Can I add something to these? Second part? 662 00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:00,920 Is it be do those people? Are those people often the people who 663 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:08,960 are struggling to afford the vacation? Well, I've got two answers. It's 664 00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:14,679 difficult to gauge how it this is terrible. Okay, Well, let's do 665 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,000 a pass. Well, I mean, they're hold on because this is quite 666 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,039 a good question. Charges guess always been. There was gone of their problems, 667 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,239 right, it's not my problem issue or care to deal with them. 668 00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:28,840 But is it embarrassing for them in the long run? Yes? And actually 669 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,880 kudos to them. It also seems like it reads a little havoc on kind 670 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,039 of just the vibe of dinners and excursions. But that's not my problem. 671 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,639 The only problem I have with that is that they may experience a bad evening, 672 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:45,480 a bad experience because of their interpersonal issues, which will reflect eventually on 673 00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:52,159 me personally, maybe more than anything. Have you ever witnessed a physical altercation? 674 00:50:52,400 --> 00:51:00,400 Yeah? Amazing? Yeah? So good? Are you kidding me? 675 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,320 How else do I get through a season without this drama? What happened? 676 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,159 Where do they fight? I've seen it, I've seen the lot. Honestly, 677 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:15,840 you would have drinking, drinking, but you know, real sorry rich 678 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:23,079 guess yeah, no, so like people who actually charged a real yarches, 679 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:31,639 like like Leonardo DiCaprio. Yes. So the guests that I've worked with previously 680 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:39,000 have class, they're in steel, they have money. Yeah, they know, 681 00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:44,840 they know, Yeah, and I know that. Yeah. I guess 682 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:51,039 you don't know who's the most famous person you've ever Fucking great though, I'll 683 00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:53,800 tell you. Okay, okay, did you say she threw her tampon on 684 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,800 the floor and took a ship? I wish I could stand up and show 685 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,360 you she walked in. This is when I was in housekeeping. I was 686 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:07,760 a little pathetic, No you weren't. Just for reference, how far does 687 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,119 your career go back in this industry? Five years? Six years, five 688 00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:16,159 years? But I climbed that ladder like no other bitch. I was like, 689 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,920 you know what, I joined very late, so a lot of it, 690 00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,599 so so yachting, and so usually you join it nineteen twenty. Yeah, 691 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:29,679 that's all the and that's when you're really running from that when the despos 692 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,840 and I and then they and they worked their way up from there. Yeah. 693 00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:37,559 I joined at twenty six. I was elderly. I was used and 694 00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:39,239 abused by then, and I was like, you know what, I'm going 695 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,440 to make this work, or because I was, I was. I used 696 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,239 to be a model agent working in London for a very high profile agency. 697 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,880 I was ahead of men's, head of men's commercial bookings. You know. 698 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,199 I was doing like three million pound dollars a week. Like I was a 699 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,800 big boy. I was in Milan, Paris, New York, London. 700 00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:01,159 I was a big boy. What was the moment where the change happened. 701 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,480 I went on a boat that sounds like sex in the City, New Sex 702 00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:09,880 and the city starring I joined. I went, I was a guest on 703 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:16,800 a C and I spent ninety eight percent of my time with the crew, 704 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,840 and I was like, fucking hate everyone I'm here with. But I saw 705 00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:29,320 this crew with such excitement or and just pure happiness in their job, and 706 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,000 I thought, how the how do you got How are you so happy in 707 00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:36,360 what you're doing? Don't I've never experienced it, Like I never seeing this 708 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,480 genuine or in the job you're doing. It was a lie. And I 709 00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:44,599 was like, it was totally And I was like, I was like, 710 00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:47,920 that is what I want from life because I haven't had that in five years 711 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,800 of doing that job. And so I sat my family down that I was 712 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,880 having a mental breakdown and I was like, I'm going to quit my job, 713 00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:01,159 get a backpack, moved to a hostel in the south of France, 714 00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:07,360 and do something called dock walking, which is every morning walking up in the 715 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,960 docks and handing out a CV and selling your soul to a boat until they 716 00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:16,239 hide, like in Nie Niece, Monaco Can santra Pez. Yeah, and 717 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,920 there's we've heard that horrible experience. Where do you eat? You can't afford 718 00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:24,039 any Now they have places where you can stay for cheap. Hostel so when 719 00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:28,440 I say hostile, I thought hostel was just like a like a motel. 720 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,079 Turns out it's like quite literally a shack on the side of the road with 721 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,920 no lock or key to your door. Yeah, but I was like, 722 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,760 do you know what, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to 723 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,440 put all my dignity aside and fucking do it and do it well you know. 724 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:49,079 So that is such a an incredibly scary thing to It was horrible. 725 00:54:49,199 --> 00:54:52,199 But again, if you want something, you can make it work for you. 726 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,440 Yeah. But yeah, then I worked very quick, like the ladder 727 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,360 ladder, and I was like, I'm not going to do I'm not going 728 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,159 to be head of housekeeping or oh my god one first job that's so admirable 729 00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:02,159 that no, it's not. It's like everyone could do it though, but 730 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,360 I don't know that you were right in doing it, but it was very 731 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,400 admirable that you did. What a fun journey to and a path mostly guy's 732 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:16,079 best thing ever My first job twenty six bringing one people done this for years 733 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:20,079 and I'm like the oldest person on board. Yeah. I took the first 734 00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:22,039 job I could get because I was like, just give me something, can 735 00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,519 I'll approved to everyone, I can do it. First job, I was 736 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:28,559 on a fifteen US, which is ten meters smaller than Saint David Right. 737 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:35,440 I was a crew member to the crew, not even to the guests. 738 00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:39,679 I was literally their toilet paper, and I would serve them teas, coffees 739 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:45,719 and clean up their ship every single When people above me were like twenty one 740 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,599 nineteen, they treat you hopefully there was some respect there in my first my 741 00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:52,960 first day quite homophobic. Actually, the first day, the guy knew that 742 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,079 I was gay when I joined, and I made teas and coffees and I 743 00:55:57,159 --> 00:55:59,599 made it exactly how I knew he wanted to makes. I heard he was 744 00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:04,639 tricky and I was washing up the dishes and he poured his boiling hot tea 745 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,119 over my hands on my first day, and look, I like, I 746 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:13,239 remember being an agony, and I was like, keep going, keep going, 747 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,119 this will be fine in the end. And I was like, I've 748 00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:19,280 lived in a hostel for the past four weeks. I've changed my whole life 749 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,639 for this job. I'm going to be the best deal with this and keep 750 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:28,960 going, just keep going. Did your skin bubble up? Yeah? You 751 00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:34,039 have had so many pussy things happening to pass everywhere. What an amazing journey. 752 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,800 But just like do I think it's important for people to know. But 753 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,000 you're listening as well, Like you literally can get and do anything you want 754 00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:45,000 if you have the right mindset, focus, positivity, and kindness towards it. 755 00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:47,559 What's the end game? Now, you're not going to die, You're 756 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:52,159 never gonna When you're die, you die, but when you die, you're 757 00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:55,239 die. But you're not going to die making a change like that, But 758 00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,239 it seems like you're going to experience people freak out, people too comfortab them. 759 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,639 Generally, people that are successful have kind of a vision for where they 760 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,880 want to be. Obviously, it seemed like that can also change absolutely and 761 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,800 it should. So you may have had a different endgame. Do you have 762 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:21,119 a different one now? It can? Okay, so you're gone. I 763 00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:27,639 think I think replace right secrets. I love watching it and hopefully you'll be 764 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,599 on another season and I think it would be an amazing season if they had 765 00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:37,239 gone. We love you the first coming from you with all the years you 766 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:43,000 know, I think that's actually I think that's quite I think we actually liked 767 00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:49,199 you when I heard you, but I didn't knowed just because I think you 768 00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:53,400 guys are so funny. I think you guys have a really great interpretation of 769 00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:57,760 the show and how it shows in reality. We've got a lot of podcasts 770 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,719 about the show which don't do it justice, and I feel that you both 771 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:07,119 have devil as advocate and not and it's a brilliant, brilliant and very very 772 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:13,400 good. I feel like if someone's not watching the show to listen to you 773 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,199 would get the best outcome of it. Thank you very much. That's really 774 00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:19,239 You've always been a good sport. Yeah, we love watching you. We 775 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,760 can't wait to keep watching it because Bravo. If you don't hire him and 776 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:28,880 keep hiring you're that's a bad fucking move. Anything to plug any Your TikTok 777 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:37,960 has lots of cryptic cryptic No nothing to plug now, but some fun stuff 778 00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:44,719 coming up. Okay, phrase or phrase on all the socials. I'm a 779 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:52,159 phraser Olander Instagram TikTok, keeping in follow him. Thank you for coming on 780 00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:53,480 the show, Thanks for having me, thanks for coming in. Of course, 781 00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:10,559 that's it. My guys and they car and they install at