I learned so much last season, and I think in every experience you do
learn a lot that you do, whether you'd like to think so or not.
And no one's first of all, the very beginning a very good place
to start. And it was when Heather said that, sorry, yeah,
I'm sorry. Ready, Hi, Hello, and welcome to a very special
episode of another Bellotock podcast. Boy am I excited? I am too.
We have in the flash the successor of the Quinn Sea. Although I guess
that was a Heather no sorry, Fraser, he's joining us in studio.
The chief stew with the most is, Hi, how are you well?
We have have been drinking, Well, we've been drinking a little bit,
but the vibes are the vibes are fine, but they're a little off.
Oh I, I have to say, you know, when you came in,
you would like, wow, Wolf. Let me just get the beef
out of the way, and then I do want to talk about your accessories.
And your scent is fucking unbelievable. It's just crazy beautiful. So I
got a handshake, Pat gott a hug and when we shook if I can
just finish, when we shook hands, you were like you've said some I've
been you said and I quote, I've been watching and you've said some horrible
things. So that's that's where we're at. Yeah, and then you hug
him. Yeah no, no, no, no, okay. Also I
listen more than I WOTP, so I don't know if he's saying what.
Okay. This has happened a couple of times when people are like, you've
said some awful things about me. Maybe it's my own delusion, but I'm
like, you have to be talking about him that could not have been.
But if you remember any of them will get into them. But just wanted
to say thank you for joining us. We're excited, thank you so much
for having me. So yes, let's start talking about below deck. You
are on the show, yep uh. I think a good place to start
might be a TikTok that you posted today, I think, or maybe you're
cleared off you follow hard. I am actually clueless, but our fans are
obsessed with anything at everything. What was that about? Was that an apology?
So so yeah, the TikTok was was a very good question. The
TikTok was Fraser jump opening too audio of him taking ownership of drunk. Oh
no, no, Yeah, it's really well thought about and like it's really
deep. Yeah, but okay, so it wasn't. I'll tell you most
of the feedback I get from last season is my turbulence with Captain Sandoa,
Yeah, Captain Timeshare, And I don't know how to confront it, to
be very frank with you, because there's no there's no there's no clarity in
this situation. There, this far along the line. There, she's out
of your hair at this point. I mean, will you ever have to
work under her again? No? But Bravo con which which dark when listen,
It's all fine, it's all fine. There is no bad blood.
But there was no clarity in the season. Yeah. I was doing a
job and from one second the next I was on a beach, highly injured.
By the way, I must stop us here, and if you did
watch, I had injured my foot the techtok of you jump rob when we're
gonna go back to the season real quick and then we'll get back to that.
Yes, I had really injured my foot. I got drunk, as
we do, went down a well I thought was a slide, but it
was a cement slope on my knees and I totally tore the skin off my
foot. I've got the scar can shade later. Anyway, I got back
to the bone. I might want to see a medic because it's I can
see my bone. And the guy was like, yeah, you the bone.
It was the bone sung supposed. But your foot is so infected.
You cannot get sand in this. There is no way you can play on
the beach today. And I was like, do you know what, I'm
not too upset about that because the last thing after working for nineteen hours a
day, I want to do is go play volley. Was there pass in
it? Like? Oh pass? And I've got amazing pictures for you,
like grotesque, Like it's just so much pass for such a yeah, yeah
yeah. And I was like, Okay, I'm not too upset, but
it's bad, he said, And this is where it annoys me. Okay,
Madame Sandy was there, Sorry I can't say he was there and I
was here and she was there looking at me, and he goes, you
cannot play. I'm a plaster band aid on it. You cannot play.
You cannot, you cannot because it's going to get It's really bad. And
I was like oh Obama, fine, right, she was there looking acknowledging.
Next thing I know, I'm on the beach in front of my whole
crew being told that I'm the biggest disappointment to everyone. You're a pariah.
Yeah. Yeah, and I'll take that when it's deserved, but when it's
not, I honestly didn't understand what was going on. I was very confused.
Fraser, I have to ask this. I like this. When we're
sitting next to each other, you can tap me on the knee to let
me know. That's really nice. So sometimes you're doing an interview, these
events took place, i'd say at least a year ago. Yeah, yeaht
this point, we're talking quite a lot ago. Yeah. Are you still
troubled by it? No? Okay, No, I'm just pested by it,
not pested, but but I'm asked about it a lot. Yeah,
but I can't answer more than what I know from back then. Nothing has
changed. Well, okay, so well let's talk about what happened back then.
So this this pus pus thing, which you wait, yeah, you'll
love it. Why was it edited? It? What? I vaguely you'll
have to forgive us because we so much of this ship. It just all
combines into one. Sandy took great joy in embarrassing Fraser as not being a
basically a participant. Yes, but I recall the edit being very much just
it was kind of like your call, whether or not you wanted to do
it or not, and that's why she was so that. So this this
revelation that it was categorically no, you cannot do this, and then her
calling you out seems a little more odd. And if that is the case,
I think you probably do not like Captain Sandy very much because that's just
an objectively awful thing to do to somebody. So how could you like her
after that? A lot of our listeners wanted to know, so we saw
you guys bump heads a little bit, or her basically deal with you and
her leadership type of Sandy style. Was there any things that we didn't see
as viewers with kind of the inner turmoil between you and her? No,
everything, And that's what that's what I love the most about the show because
it is real, it is unedited, it is so it is edited because
of we filmed twenty four hours for seven weeks. Yeah, but productions not
involved, and I wish there was something I could tell you to say,
Oh, no, this happened, and that's why we're at where we're at.
No, and that never happened. So no. So I'm at the
same understanding as you guys. Here we go again with another one of these
people coming in here and saying that production doesn't get involved. I just never
believe that people don't. And people are always like yeah, but like don't,
don't you have to say this? Then I'm like, no, yeah,
and do you know what. That's why I'm proud about my what I
do and why I'm on this show because I've worked very hard to be where
I am in my profession and then I get to do that on a TV
on a TV show, which then brings all this other wonderful stuff too.
But I work very hard to do what I do and I'm not just going
for lunch and I'm not just having a bitch fight with someone on the street
because of whatever. I'm doing a job and I'm doing it to the best
of my ability and it might not be perfect, but that's reality. And
you're going into a reality TV this is reality TV. Okay, Well,
let's talk about how you are not perfect, absolutely not First of all,
route that was too much. I was just kidding. I was just teasing
it, wasting along. It was going to be a segue into this incredible
question. Just you wait. You are so good at your job, the
chiefs doing the taking care of the guests. But when you excel in any
profession, be at this or finance or whatever, you're awarded with the upgraded
responsibility of managing people. Yes, which is a bizarre thing because it's a
completely different skill set. It has nothing to do with the thing you're actually
good at. And you were handed quite a bit of a let's call it
a fucking nightmare. Should be remind of last season, Yes, go ahead.
We had Milly alsit, we had Alyssa just at each other's fucking throw,
and we had Haley the good Witch. Well, we had Camille Alyssa.
Yes, and what did you call? That's her name? Oh,
I didn't know that. I'm for suld listen to more and she's bangers you.
And so I have a question, was this in fact your first duty
as a chief stew It was framed that way in the show because that would
seem if it was that's throwing your thewarf And also second part of that question,
do you think that that was your biggest like challenge or downfall in the
season? Was dealing with the managing part was like my question, So we'll
start with that one. I left season nine and I went back. I
went to a boat and I did my first ever season's chief stew. I
had worked on that boat for two and a half years previously. I knew
that boat better than I knew myself. So when I became chief stew,
it was beautiful, immaculate, seamless and divine. M H. Can't quite
say that when I can't choose my crew, though, can I? So
I joined whatever boat that was, and I get even these stews, and
we're gonna go with stews quite literally. Anyone, anyone, anybody do you
want? Anyone could have walked on and been like, oh yeah, we
say it all the time. They need to cast the show, the lower
ranks of the show. Sorry for you, but they need to just go
to a TGI Fridays. I've been in the business for a while. I'm
a yachtie. I'm a seerrat, as you guys love to call them.
I'm a pure bread sor a bread seer rat. I'm dark, dirty,
dingy and disgusting seer rat, but I'm a sea rat. Yeah, don't
take some bitch and tci Friday because she's going to do absolutely nothing. Yeah,
what have we seen with Sorry? Yeah, no, no, no,
I have like a background question. Yeah, typically if we were in
the real world of yachting, would a chief stew be involved? Absolutely?
Okay, Yeah, I hire my stews and that's important because I guess who
works with them. Well, it ain't Captain Sandy or other. It's me
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work on, and consequently I didn't know what I'm I'm getting given. If
I picked my crew, I wouldn't have picked milliazas gals, do you know
what? Yeah, Alyssa, No, Camille is Millia Lissah for good say,
you're very confusing. Be carn by the name her name is MILLI even
me. She's a great I don't know what I really that's embarrassing. She
was fantastic. Actually some pipes. She's doing really good. And only fans
the moments, well, yeah, a lot of serets turned only fan I
know, yeah, my time might be there. No, I don't think
so. I think what's so what's so awesome about you and having you in
here is because I do think that you you are if you it's not solidified
already, it's damn near close to being. You're a kind of a mainstay
on this show. Now. I think that you've comfully, you know,
gotten yourself a couple of seasons. And I think one of the reasons why
you're very very good television. You're very good at your job, but also
as bad as Melie, Lissa aka Camille aka Emelie e Lissa and Alyssa.
Were you got given Haley? Yes? And you and Haley are I mean
it's like the fox in the Hound, or like like stepbrothers, or like
any other like great duo of people who love each other. You know she
walks on bulls. Yeah, and I still hood down the dock and I
went, fuck me, I was like, I was like, guys,
honestly, it's my first seedn't give me a break. And then I see
this this walking wig. Yeah, it's awesome. She's she's actually hit.
I was just with that. We know, how do you think we know
you're here? I mean, pad Spenny, you should know that I'm here
through my Instagram its. Haley is brilliant. She's not she's she is an
amazing friend. She is Doyle. She brings energy, she brings excitement,
enthusiasm. Yeah, and shoes don't need to be perfect, but they need
to say yes and try their best. Love Haley the worst stewardess of every
worth my entire life, the worst stewardess. I have to tell. This
story is an amazing story. It's one of my favorites. And they didn't
air this and I died a thousand deaths. I said, Haley, quick
sticks, mummy's got to do a beach picnic and I forgot to get a
can we really quickly pause? You're speaking a language that I don't really write.
Mummy is me? Well it was one of quick sticks. Oh god,
you really have behind and sticks like quick? Okay, just add another
word to so sorry. I was like Haley, We've got to move quickly.
Is that okay? Yeah? And I need' I've forgotten one thing.
Please go grab me a tablecloth for my beach picnic tables. I haven't got
any provisions not giving me any table cloth. Please just grabbed me because we
didn't have any, I said, just grab me a bed sheet from the
guests. Just grab a flat sheet and I do a flat sht. No,
I said, a flat sheet to go on top. I don't care.
I haven't got time, So I go do my bits. I come
back and I can. I'm confronted with Haley holding in her two hands a
dove in a duvet cover. I looked at her and I said, really,
yeah, and that's why she's so brilliant she has. But she said,
yes, she fucking did it. She run down there and she came
to me with a smile. And that's all the matter is positive attitude will
get your pretty fun totally right. But but but but I did. You
don't get that from people. I don't care how good they are. As
long as they have an attitude that they want to try and the one and
that they're there to work. That I'm happy and I can help train and
help correct brain cells. But but I can't change attitude and personality. Yeah,
right, which contrary to Alissa who was trying to stage a coup,
it was futile. I didn't exist even the opportunity too. But a lot
of our listeners they we had a request for questions. There's a lot of
questions. A bulk of them were asking, you know, what's your future?
You're going to be on another incarnation of another version of the show,
and a lot of the masks if you are. Have you learned a lot
from last season where the management style that I think you are odds with last
season was friendship verse kind of being a manager and they can't be no together.
No, I learned a lot, a hell of a lot. Before
you say what you learn? Can we talk about something I'm just a little
anxious about. I just I just want to you are all over the I'm
scared of this. No, no, no, I've just I spoked a
little parts. I'm a little anxious. What I don't want to do the
thing where we're talking, We're talking and then you're going I need to go,
you know what I mean. No, I've canceled my dinner. Oh
you have. Yeah, I was like, these pictures want to chat?
Okay, because that would have been bad work you and I. You know,
so all right, get what are your less We're gonna get drunk.
I mean, we're gonna drink lots of Yeah. So lessons learned, lessons
learned. I learned so much last season. And I think in every experience
you do learn a lot that you do, whether you'd like to think so
or not. And no one's first of all beginning a very good place to
start, and was when Heather said that, sorry, yeah, I'm sorry.
I learned that very early on. As anyway, so so so so
I walked onto this vessel Kidders quite literally shitting myself. And you didn't see
enough of this the the chief stew or your initial season. Oh no,
in my in my real in my in my on my boat before it was
beautiful. I came onto this boat and I thought, what have I done?
It was a new boat, it was the big. It was the
largest vessel that Blowdeck have ever charted. Okay, the largest crew that they'd
ever had. And here's me, as my first experience on blow Deck,
as the first male stew in my very little time being a yachtie doing this
job, and I thought it is And I was like, you know what,
Okay, one believes in me. It might not be me, but
someone does. My first night, I went to bed and I I was
not in a good way. I woke up and I went to go to
the producers and I said, I can't. I'm honestly at this point where
I can't. I have to go had filming but gun, yeah, we
were on date, so we had dust done the provisions. It was the
morning after and I said, guys, I'm really I need to talk to
someone now because I don't know if I can do it, because I'm I
don't know where to begin. So, guys, just to give you some
like a little bit of and understanding what how it works. You join the
vessel. It has been ransacked. Why Okay, we always wonder this.
It looks like Gerbils have taken over it for a while. It's like this
crazy thing that happened. Why do they leave a boat? It's a TV
show. The boat has been left perfect. Things happen after that. But
also to prepare the vessel, they have to take down every deckhead, everything
has to be rewired. You've got cameras, every You've got the whole bos.
But then everything is then ransack together for us. So we join with
twenty four hours of learning your crew, learning of us. So you've been
on before. I don't know where a knife and fork is, let alone
a glasses for some water for my guests are arriving twenty four hours. I
also have to put away provisions for six weeks. You start with it.
We call an og provisions. You're you do the nuclear goods. The nuclear
goods so you've got so that's not like every charter. That's like a six
hour provision put away. Okay. I also don't know where she is.
Your co workers, I don't know them. I don't know myself at this
point, I don't know where I am. Lee is dying well, Lee's
upset. I don't know share. But I've got twenty four hours to make
this vessel charter worthy of charter guests. And I thought to myself, I
just can't. I just oh no. And I'm a perfectionist. So if
I can't do it brilliantly, then I actually don't. But I thought,
I've never quit before. I can't do this to myself. That's what did
the producers tell you when you say that? Because I assume you're not.
We've actually seen it on film with Matt the chef. He went to produce
and said, I can't do this. I want to quit. So well,
I never I just wanted someone to look at me in the face and
say shut Yeah, and someone did, because yeah, that guy faked like
multiple injuries. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I need I needed. I
guess I wanted recognition that I was going through a hard time. How today,
Yeah, And Matt asked us to stop talking about it. By the
way, Oh cool, Well let's talk about what Matt did was fake many
injuries. And then when they were like you keep getting hurt a lot,
He's like, all right, fine, I just I don't want to do
it anymore. Yeah, that experience sounds so panic and douce him to have
to learn about and clean it up because it was in a stage of absolute
disarray. It seems like an impossibility. I think it probably is. There's
no way you can do all that work. And the crew at that point
was Eddie as the boson. Yeah, and then Heather. I mean yes,
but I wasn't chief then, so I was just following a lead.
But when I joined, this is a new vessel. No one had seen
this but before so you know, Eddie had been on the SIA on Sienna
and he could have possibly guided. When I joined, David, we didn't
a ship. When I been my first lunch on, I was looking for
place matts, knives and forks and cutlery and sorry and glasses while the guests
whilst they were getting ready to come for lunch. So like, that's the
level we're going, we're at. But going back to the original question of
what I learned, I went through ship that season I realized that I needed
to, which basically what was difficult is that I had a really good crew
for half of the season and we worked phenomenally well that season. Not only
did we make beautifully wonderful tips, but we never had a bad comment from
a single guest, which is unheard of in the franchise. Trust me,
I've done my research. Unheard of. However, then someone else joins when
the whole pack is doing quite well and things start you know, are you
talking about their captain? You know? And so I'm like, why is
everything going so well? But then things are not, and I'm like,
hold on, I look after the guests because they're the one who they pay
and they matter, right, But then other things are happening, and I'm
like, we just pointed a bad decision. But I was like, just
ignore that and let's just continue what we do because we're doing it well and
right, and we're getting our tips, we're getting paid, and we're doing
really well and everyone's happy. Yeah. Meanwhile, it turns out apparently you've
got to suck dick even when you don't want to. Yeah, tell to
suck. No, Sorry, it turns out you've got to sometimes praise.
Sorry, man, it turns out that sometimes when when hierarchy needs it.
Well, again, I'm frazy. So it's just it's a disgusting thing when
you get into that world that there is politicking that is so like many many
of all adverse to the like intentions or motives of people who are I don't
know, not so jaded. It's not a ship on Sandy Parade. But
no, she is our at least favorite captain though right, it used to
be Captain Lee, but he's Oh, can I ask a lead question?
Please? Oh? I love this leg toughing. Did you cry when Lee
left the boat? Yeah? Like a baby. I'm so crazy. Isn't
that mental? You don't really know him, so that's the stuff you don't
see. Yeah, so what you don't see is someone who really want to
be there. Yeah, okay, came you guys with someone who is trying,
And I can I can definitely relate that as in not with myself,
but with other people I've seen, like you know for example, And I
hated making this reference, but my grandfather, he he was he wasn't able
to be physical for the for the loss of his last you know, a
few years, and that really bothered him because he was so manly there.
And so I would see this and the push, the drive and the enthusiasm
given from my captain was so there and so passionate and he wanted it so
badly, but things were so bad for him. It was just hard to
see that, and I think, do you know what I was also just
like I was like for me, I hate what I'm doing, I have
I want to go home, but you are my little rock at the moment.
I'm telling me to go every day, right, And then he left
and then I was, you know, dealing with the race. So we
were a positive reinforcement for you. Okay, this all right? This is
shocking me because yeah, yeah, go ahead. He comes off. I'm
triggered by Lee because he reminds me of every male figure that was addict to
me as a younger person. Like it's just it's almost like he's from a
different time. I totally get that. But everything is very like everybody.
It's a threat now and I'm not going to talk about how days around my
helmet, and so I just don't like that management style. I prefer your
management style, which is I'm gonna be pleasant, nice and dare I say,
kind of your friend until you show me that I can't fuck me off,
and then things are gonna go out. He starts off with I don't
like you. He doesn't say that, but there is definitely a line to
do it. Think about it. That's been these things from day one.
Correct you you you're not gonna change things now, and if you do,
it's gonna be like, who's this fit? Well, I we should evolve
even as we get older. I would say there's no expiry date when evolving.
We joke what death? That is very much the expira date of involve
But who knows what happens. I mean, you know, I don't,
so maybe it's not. That is a very very good reason and a beautiful
reason to show. I mean it's not listen, I know totally. It's
like, I see him in prison is very sad. I was so embarrassed
watching back. I was like, what is wrong with you? I was
so emotional. I was so emotional and I was like, the last thing
I want to do is cry. And I cried on that stupid bitch.
Camille left and I was like wrong, and I was like, oh,
did I get it? Yeah, nineteen hour days of work, my crew
and my life, you're you're you're in a black site. Essentially, I've
no idea. I can't tell my left and right. Can I ask this?
I think a lot of listeners would wonder, like, we all sit
in front of the television every night below deck people, we love it.
You as a participant on the show, how do you watch the show?
Are there episodes that you know are coming up where you're like, yeah,
I'm not watching that one. I've no idea, I have no idea what's
coming up. So every week is just like immense suspense. Did anything sharky
were like, oh, yeah, fuck, how much can you can you
share? Yeah, Camille's behavior because she acted like an absolute angel around me.
Yeah, if I was there and I'm assuming that she clocked me and
being yeah, and then I'd hear a Lissa come to me and be like,
oh my god, and you know, yap yeap, yeap, and
I'm not for yapping. I'd just shut it down. We're here to work.
When I do best friends just work. And it was like and she
was like dubbing her own every day, and I was like, I'm not
seeing this until I see it. So then but then you get you know,
then you get highlighted on situation. See then you start maybe peering over
here just to check on things. And then I saw it and I was
like, oh wait, this this is awful. Yeah, but I but
watching it was was embarrassing for me. I wish I'd seen more there.
It goes into that hole you're becoming a man, a manager thing. Yeah,
under the umbrella of you managing these people in this specific specific situation,
you have to turn into a kind of pet detective as such. You have
to figure out hate that side of it, what's going on here. It's
like a game of clue. Yes, but in an ideal world, I
would have a crew that I we're talking about that. What I mean by
that is that as long as I can see the job getting done, I
can see my guests paying us very well in terms of tips, and everyone
is doing that, Like, then it's fine. If I've got two girls
hating each other, well then welcome to yachting. If I've got ten girls
hating each other, welcome to yachting. I don't give a shit, yeh.
I honestly don't care. Yeah, I know you guys are, but
then when people start getting involved, than I have to care. Yeah,
comment, I love that this is so it could be more like further away
from being buried. I mean, but I appreciate his candor. And when
you're saying like it's tough to confront that criticism, why do you even feel
the need to confront it at all? Just dismiss it. Everybody that watched
the show was like, this is insane, and I agree with that.
But he, I don't know. I assume, like all of us,
we probably lie and say we don't, but we read the comments and they
do have an effect on us. And Sandy does have people than Andy Cohen.
Oh did you know they're just trolls? Forget it, Daisy, Yeah,
you say, And well, it's important what you think because you,
guys, you're the reason why we've got a show, you know. And
it's also important for us to know how it's being edited. To see what
you guys are seeing and understanding. Yeah, because how we live it,
it's very difficult to how you see it. And so when I listen to
your say you guys, but I mean, like fans comments, I'm like,
we're going foward. Maybe I should be hyper aware of this because they're
not seeing the truth and us for the sake of comedy, you have to
make quick judgments, often incorrect incorrect judgments, evaluations in our case for a
laugh. But a lot of people I think they're just like they see one
scene. For example, I forget who the person was. Nice Chase.
He was on the last season of Sailing Yea and he had a bad episode
where he was saying that you want to take shots off a girl's breast and
he went from being a fan favorite as you would look in any comments to
say, and these things are very perilous because there's often like either no accuracy
or just a failure of understanding of what's going on. This is not an
example of this, but this is an example of us getting it correct.
But something like you see Captain Glenn on below deck sailing, he goes away
from the yard. People think he kills ladies of the name. People don't.
We were correct about that, But those are the kind of assumptions that
people can get to kind of haphazard. So do we have any fan questions?
I mean, we've been rattling off a bunch. I think we're just
having a fun kind of clarify another thing which really picked me off. Yeah,
everyone's like, phraser, why didn't you fire Camille day one? First
of all, if you were watching, said fans, you understand that I
wasn't her boss until Sandy made me her full time boss. And when made
when I was her full time boss, I fired her the next day.
So everyone's like, phrase, you fucking shit manager, Yeah, get rid
of Well, if you were watching couch Human, yeah you would understand.
But I wasn't in charge of her, and Ross was still trying to have
sex with her. He wasn't. Yeah, yeah, he was like we
and fire hurt needs to go, and then I'm like, also, I'm
not the captain as much as kind of, and I still can't find them.
I've gotta wait for someone else to do. Yeah, right, but
get your facts right. Fans totally agree. All right. So you mentioned
Ross. So there are some people that we see on this show that obviously
they are good at their job, they've been doing it, and somehow they
got roped into being filmed on a television show that Arizon Bravo, and you
can clearly see, at least I can as a viewer who's cut out for
it and who's not. So do you know when you're filming, like oh,
that this is the last time they'll ever be on television, Like this
might be too much for them? Can you No? I think I think
it's important. I think it's very important understand that when we do this job,
we enter into it a zone of do your job and do it right,
because if you do it wrong, the whole world is going to see
you doing your This is my professional career. If I mess up the whole
world, I've not got a job anymore. So I don't think about anyone
else what they're doing afterwards, what they're doing during I know that I'm going
to do my job, and if they're not right for all right, fit
for the job or doing it well, I couldn't give. And I'm like,
yeah, you can be honest. I don't care. What I care
is I'm going to, like, I don't think that far ahead. I
don't think about anyone else's career. The work comes before the show, it
does. I don't make people understand that because a lot of people join this
show or apply to this show. Guys. It's the biggest ick in my
life to find out that my friends who are on the show have applied.
Oh okay, that's yeah, like for fuck's sake, like like and this,
I know this sounds really awful, but like I can't like fame hungry
people make me upset and not upset, but I'm just like, don't I
think when the work comes before the show? That's usually yea because it's so
successful. But it's such a unique reality experience where you can kind of do
that because if you're on something like vander Pump Rules, you are there,
you show up to a scene, and I guess you're like, well,
I guess I got a fight with my best friend to ye. But but
you don't need to do that. You just need to do what you've been
doing before you get on. And authenticity is the only thing that like that
actually works. It works and it matters in a job. Again, we're
not turning up twice a week to film where twenty four hours for six intensive
weeks. I don't care who you are, what your plans are, just
do the job. Yeah. I think that's why it's gone well so far
for me because I don't give a shit about that. Keep that up,
because because that's why you're going to be on the Shoke forever. All right.
So one of the questions, we probably can't your next tap and when
you you probably can't use to still flag this in case I did. Sorry,
okay. So one thing that we always used to be fascinated with with
Kate, Queen of the Seat, when she'd come on the show and we'd
ask her is she was? She did? I think she was six seasons
and at that point she was hanging out with Chrissy Teagan six seasons, hanging
out with Oh yeah seas time, so it would be what the hell?
Yeah, she always did, so for me it was always how do you
do this? Where you can hang out at John Legends and Chrissy Teagan's house
for the weekend and then they say it's time to film, and then you
need to get coffee at six in the morning for paying customers and be able
to flip into that role of being kind of a celebrity in your own right
and flip a switch and just say this is my role as service. Is
that something that you've thought about how you've got to find a balance. Yes,
yeah, and a very good point to make, because I think it's
I think it's ignored. This pump it it's ignored. Don't crime me a
river, but get Since doing Below Deck and it's still but justin Timber great
album it since doing the show has meant that I've missed out on some beautiful
jobs, I mean talking like the best jobs in the industry because of the
show. So I've got through all the interviews, worked on it, done
my staff and then the owner finds out that I've been on Below Deck and
says, I'm just not going to do it. I have a question.
Yeah, So with being on Below Deck and one thing that has been missing
in your tenure on the show is no romantic interests is that something that you've
pushed off just as a professional decision because you're not getting get in the mark.
You want to be zero focused. What a fantastic question, I gotta
say, Patrick, I am really impressed by the Yeah. Thanks fantastic.
They've not hooks me up with anyone. I'm desperate. Yeah, I'm like,
hum, what about when nights go out and you all binge, drink
and throw up on each other? Why don't you find any First of first
of all, let's listen wind back and the last two years I've been doing
it, Yeah, has been in COVID. The only person I can make
out with is like a table or a chair awaited with a mask. I'm
sure that sounds adorable. No, I'm really for you guys to have people
to intermingle with. Sign me up, throw someone on. There's going to
to it? Because I thought that was one of your guideline. Who would
I've got with so far? Well, there are that kid that was constantly
talking about how he was going to do it. The kid he was talking
about how he was going to come Ka, Kaya wasn't on that ball.
No, it was the new kid that came on and he was and he
was like he was throwing a little shad at you. I think he was
like, I think we could be doing this better if I remember correctly.
All right, let's get to the next question. By the way, such
a gracious guess answering all our questions. If you don't mind, I don't
know how long we can have you. Can we ask some listener questions?
All right? These might be really stupid. Feel free to completely push them.
Hey, thanks for being here, Frasier having me all right, I'm
I'm too old to be able to read these questions anyway, So hold on,
you guys talk about I don't know what was going on in there.
What happened when Frasier when Yeah, I was like babysitting for me? What
were you doing? I was out here talking to Kaylin and Kaylen was like,
I think he fucking hates you. I was like, okay, okay,
this is from Jessica Lynn. Great question. Really wait to hear this.
Who have you met in the below deck world that you despise? Now
we've covered one already, but I think that we can roll that into there
is someone Okay, Okay, actually I won't say, but damn it actively
despise. Yeah, okay, to the point where I'm like, okay,
someone that's been on the shop, yeah, okay, and not mine there
again, okay male or female? No, no, no, he's given
us a Netflix. I get ready. But we can roll that into something.
I hope you can talk about it. Thank you can. Worst guest
of last season. Oh this is really awful. And I don't know how
to phrase any differently, but the Indian guests we heard, Yeah, well
they were pretty rude, pretty rude. It was it was it was.
It was harrowing. Yeah, yeah, your phone died. I need to
go get my phone so we can ask you our listener questions. Oh you
can grab a Kalen. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. So
can you get into a little bit a lot? So it seemed like they
were more rude to the chef. I'm trying. Everything seemed like they kept
if my memory serves everything needs to be five star. That was their little
saying their mantra five star, we expect five star, five star? Am
I correct in remembering that? Are these the people that smoked the cigars wrong
backwards? Yeah? Stars? They were looking at then maybe the Yeah,
okay, so you know Stu our our admin is he's doing a great job,
but not good enough. He's telling everybody that they're hot. Okay,
do you want to you know, Rachel Griffith, this is just I don't
like the implication of this. Do you want to work with Captain hot pants?
Captain Jason jas is a good pal of mine. I like Jason.
We talk a lot. How long have you known him since Bravo con last
Yeah? Okay, but we a lot, very supportive of each other.
How many captains at any given time or helming these yachts? Is it that
small of a world where you know each other? No, it's just well,
no, it's just below deck. You know what. Once we're in
this hype, then we either support each other we don't. All right,
So this is these are this is a great set. Well you're a funny
one. Who so Jason is a good boy. So that's nice to know.
Yeah. When we used to cover Bachelor and now we hate it,
But there was a thing called Bachelor Nation, and there were so many seasons
and so many different versions of the show. In any given year, there
could be thirty forty cast members and they all kind of found each other and
it was a shared experience, and it would seem the only other series that
I think that Rivals that is now the Below Deck World. But you know
what, we only come together because we're the is not awful, the worst
paid street quite literally home that we're quite literally we're normal people who have to
still hustle. Yeah, whereas you've got these housewives all the wise living the
real TV dream and we're just like rummaging through rubbish daily to get our fits.
That side were together and we have not. We have a lot of
fantastic fit questions, okay, and I want to get to as many as
we can, but I think that we should do rapid fire. Okay,
great, okay, so just be quick. Sticks you've learned something today,
Meredith. Laura Way asks also, don't you see the names? Well?
They like to hear their names. Go on, Meredith, was it annoying
that Captain Lee called you mister ollend or the entire season? Did Camille get
a bad edit? No? What's the most disgusting thing? This is from
Malory Rosenda's beautiful name. What is the most disgusting thing you've ever seen a
guest do? On Charter? I don't think they pay you enough What was
the story before season ten? This is from Sean Bergen. What was the
story before season ten? When you said Rachel was evil this season? Did
she get a protected edit? How do you feel about Rachel? Now?
We two questions there. You can pass too, know we can ext here
we go. I had a really good season with Chef Rachel, and then
I watched it back and I was like, we'll go because and I'll tell
quickly. I was there and my crew were there waiting to take plates out.
And if there's no plate to go in my hand, then whose fault
is it? Really? If my guest at the table and your food's not
coming out of my hand is here, who's folds it? And try and
blame me? Yeah, but a bit you did and it worked. But
like trying a little bit of lacking of empathy on your part though, right
because she was being attacked by Nightmare. She's we love her, She's she's
a little coop, all right, So I have a question to jump off
that last one. Right, No, we got a couple more. We
We're gonna have a couple of drinks. We're gonna have fun. Get start
off. We're gonna have a couple of cocktails, we get real. I'm
ready for it. Okay, So we've watched a couple of especially the last
couple episodes of Sailing, where charter gas are fighting, and I theorize I
feel a good question coming on right now because they are spending a lot of
money and there's a lot of pressure to take in every part of enjoyment,
and then for that pressure kind of closes in on them and there begins in
fighting. Have you seen that in your own experience as a chief steward?
Like, these people should all be having a wonderful time and now why are
they at each other's throats? Can I add something to these? Second part?
Is it be do those people? Are those people often the people who
are struggling to afford the vacation? Well, I've got two answers. It's
difficult to gauge how it this is terrible. Okay, Well, let's do
a pass. Well, I mean, they're hold on because this is quite
a good question. Charges guess always been. There was gone of their problems,
right, it's not my problem issue or care to deal with them.
But is it embarrassing for them in the long run? Yes? And actually
kudos to them. It also seems like it reads a little havoc on kind
of just the vibe of dinners and excursions. But that's not my problem.
The only problem I have with that is that they may experience a bad evening,
a bad experience because of their interpersonal issues, which will reflect eventually on
me personally, maybe more than anything. Have you ever witnessed a physical altercation?
Yeah? Amazing? Yeah? So good? Are you kidding me?
How else do I get through a season without this drama? What happened?
Where do they fight? I've seen it, I've seen the lot. Honestly,
you would have drinking, drinking, but you know, real sorry rich
guess yeah, no, so like people who actually charged a real yarches,
like like Leonardo DiCaprio. Yes. So the guests that I've worked with previously
have class, they're in steel, they have money. Yeah, they know,
they know, Yeah, and I know that. Yeah. I guess
you don't know who's the most famous person you've ever Fucking great though, I'll
tell you. Okay, okay, did you say she threw her tampon on
the floor and took a ship? I wish I could stand up and show
you she walked in. This is when I was in housekeeping. I was
a little pathetic, No you weren't. Just for reference, how far does
your career go back in this industry? Five years? Six years, five
years? But I climbed that ladder like no other bitch. I was like,
you know what, I joined very late, so a lot of it,
so so yachting, and so usually you join it nineteen twenty. Yeah,
that's all the and that's when you're really running from that when the despos
and I and then they and they worked their way up from there. Yeah.
I joined at twenty six. I was elderly. I was used and
abused by then, and I was like, you know what, I'm going
to make this work, or because I was, I was. I used
to be a model agent working in London for a very high profile agency.
I was ahead of men's, head of men's commercial bookings. You know.
I was doing like three million pound dollars a week. Like I was a
big boy. I was in Milan, Paris, New York, London.
I was a big boy. What was the moment where the change happened.
I went on a boat that sounds like sex in the City, New Sex
and the city starring I joined. I went, I was a guest on
a C and I spent ninety eight percent of my time with the crew,
and I was like, fucking hate everyone I'm here with. But I saw
this crew with such excitement or and just pure happiness in their job, and
I thought, how the how do you got How are you so happy in
what you're doing? Don't I've never experienced it, Like I never seeing this
genuine or in the job you're doing. It was a lie. And I
was like, it was totally And I was like, I was like,
that is what I want from life because I haven't had that in five years
of doing that job. And so I sat my family down that I was
having a mental breakdown and I was like, I'm going to quit my job,
get a backpack, moved to a hostel in the south of France,
and do something called dock walking, which is every morning walking up in the
docks and handing out a CV and selling your soul to a boat until they
hide, like in Nie Niece, Monaco Can santra Pez. Yeah, and
there's we've heard that horrible experience. Where do you eat? You can't afford
any Now they have places where you can stay for cheap. Hostel so when
I say hostile, I thought hostel was just like a like a motel.
Turns out it's like quite literally a shack on the side of the road with
no lock or key to your door. Yeah, but I was like,
do you know what, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to
put all my dignity aside and fucking do it and do it well you know.
So that is such a an incredibly scary thing to It was horrible.
But again, if you want something, you can make it work for you.
Yeah. But yeah, then I worked very quick, like the ladder
ladder, and I was like, I'm not going to do I'm not going
to be head of housekeeping or oh my god one first job that's so admirable
that no, it's not. It's like everyone could do it though, but
I don't know that you were right in doing it, but it was very
admirable that you did. What a fun journey to and a path mostly guy's
best thing ever My first job twenty six bringing one people done this for years
and I'm like the oldest person on board. Yeah. I took the first
job I could get because I was like, just give me something, can
I'll approved to everyone, I can do it. First job, I was
on a fifteen US, which is ten meters smaller than Saint David Right.
I was a crew member to the crew, not even to the guests.
I was literally their toilet paper, and I would serve them teas, coffees
and clean up their ship every single When people above me were like twenty one
nineteen, they treat you hopefully there was some respect there in my first my
first day quite homophobic. Actually, the first day, the guy knew that
I was gay when I joined, and I made teas and coffees and I
made it exactly how I knew he wanted to makes. I heard he was
tricky and I was washing up the dishes and he poured his boiling hot tea
over my hands on my first day, and look, I like, I
remember being an agony, and I was like, keep going, keep going,
this will be fine in the end. And I was like, I've
lived in a hostel for the past four weeks. I've changed my whole life
for this job. I'm going to be the best deal with this and keep
going, just keep going. Did your skin bubble up? Yeah? You
have had so many pussy things happening to pass everywhere. What an amazing journey.
But just like do I think it's important for people to know. But
you're listening as well, Like you literally can get and do anything you want
if you have the right mindset, focus, positivity, and kindness towards it.
What's the end game? Now, you're not going to die, You're
never gonna When you're die, you die, but when you die, you're
die. But you're not going to die making a change like that, But
it seems like you're going to experience people freak out, people too comfortab them.
Generally, people that are successful have kind of a vision for where they
want to be. Obviously, it seemed like that can also change absolutely and
it should. So you may have had a different endgame. Do you have
a different one now? It can? Okay, so you're gone. I
think I think replace right secrets. I love watching it and hopefully you'll be
on another season and I think it would be an amazing season if they had
gone. We love you the first coming from you with all the years you
know, I think that's actually I think that's quite I think we actually liked
you when I heard you, but I didn't knowed just because I think you
guys are so funny. I think you guys have a really great interpretation of
the show and how it shows in reality. We've got a lot of podcasts
about the show which don't do it justice, and I feel that you both
have devil as advocate and not and it's a brilliant, brilliant and very very
good. I feel like if someone's not watching the show to listen to you
would get the best outcome of it. Thank you very much. That's really
You've always been a good sport. Yeah, we love watching you. We
can't wait to keep watching it because Bravo. If you don't hire him and
keep hiring you're that's a bad fucking move. Anything to plug any Your TikTok
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