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woning. Wow, what a show we have for you tonight. But first
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of wipes. You squeegee in, you lou because he's here of the very
famous one one. Hello everyone, Hello, ladies and gentlemen, all ships
at sea, Welcome to the show. Glad to be here, Mac,
as always, I live for this. You know, we all know I'll
have nothing else to do. How's the weather. The weather's been beautiful lately.
Yeah, it hit something like eighty six. Maybe we don't know what
that is in centigrade. I don't know. Twenty seven thirty thirty something.
Maybe let me see thirty. If the quick way is doubles thirty, make
it sixty, then add twenty eight ten. That's that's simple. We're doing
a musical special tonight about drummers. Okay, drummers, the joke out of
the way. We all have our favorite drummers and not so favorite drummers.
So that's the topic tonight. So one one is here also joining us,
also in England is a good friend, Martin Fitzgibbon. How are you,
Martin. I'm great, Thanks guys, pleasure to be here. Nice to
join. We had a lot of fun last time you were on we did.
You were the first drummer for the Rocky Horror Picture Show when it was
playing to audiences of fifty or so right before it blew up. Yeah,
sixty three in total. You under sold us there a little bit, sixty
three seats. It was the very first venue, but it played that and
actually the anniversary, the fifty first anniversary of the show was this week.
Wow, amazing, the nineteenth nineteenth of June. Yeah, nice. Did
you ever think it was going to become what it became? Did you have
any notion back then? We knew it was going to be successful for sure,
and after the first, the first couple of shows, we were certain
of that. But nobody, i mean nobody in their right mind would say
fifty plus years or even thirty years. It's just just inconceivable. Yeah.
Yeah, it's going well, cut on, and it stayed, which is
important. Thanks for joining us today, mine, pleasure. Good to see
you, Barton. Also with us down there in Fort Lauderdale is a famous
musician, Rich Kennedy. Rich, how you doing? Okay, I'm famous?
Well, who says you're not well? In Fort Lauderdale? Everyone knows,
right, that's right? Yeah, yep. So you want to briefly
describe what Kaver is. You have three kava bars. Just can give yourself
a plug for Carver this. Listen up, this is actually pretty good.
Oh. Fifteenth year of business. We serve Cavo, which is a Pacific
beverage it's a mood elevator, muscle relax or anti stress, anti anxiety,
all natural, chill you at natural natural, no alcohol. This makes you
feel good. Yes, and that's uh. We're down into two locations.
Now it's the competitions getting ferious here. This is in the first open there
were maybe three kava bars in Florida. Now there's thirty in my county.
Really, yeah, it's but you're you're the original, the original, the
original gangster, the original in Power County. For sure. It's actually pretty
good. I've had some a's kind of an earthy flavor, but if you
put like coffee mate or something in it, it's it's not bad. And
you know, you get this nice little buzz going to the truth. Yeah,
it's a good alternative. A lot of people recovery like it, so
that's recovery recovery. Yeah. And also when we went down there, there's
a few years go, Now, do you still have comedy night? No,
Because we would go down there and and he would say, this is
how it's going to go. It's open my comedy night because half the people
who get stoned and forget their jokes, okay, and the other half won't
be funny. And that was the funny thing about it, because that's exactly
what happened. People that, yeah, one of the things comedians would always
say, but it's got a horrible joke, and no one would laugh,
and they go, that was funny. That whyet ended? It was like
I heard that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like that.
You remember the one person who told that story about his day at work and
yeah, we punch and actually we thought, oh my gosh, if he
had a gun, he's going to spray the place of the machine. And
he got fired and instead of telling jokes, he got up there and he
reanted about what a what an asshole his bosses, And you kept waiting for
it to get funny because it was kind of building up, and nope,
it was just the exit. But men, yeah, exactly. Still the
funniest, the funniest person the reas. Yeah, it was just a a
therapy session for people. You know what I'm going to say. The funniest
person we saw was that high school kid. Oh yeah, and he came
out and he said, I got to remember it. He said, you
know what, the stupidest song on the world does Saturday in the Park by
Chicago, right and he goes through the whole song and he goes, think
of these lyrics, you know, Saturday in the park. It might have
been. It might have been the fourth of July. I think it was
the fourth of July? Is that it? He says, that's you only
give that answer when someone said when someone looks at your sky and say,
hey, when'd you get stabbed? And he goes, I don't know.
It might have been the fourth of July. Yeah, because how could you
not know it was today? Well, let me see what year was?
It was really funny, it was he was really he was a high school
kid. Here's the high school binish talking about how he's banging his chemis chemistry
teacher, his wife, and you must have been the laser for that lowest
all right, So anyway, well I haven't introduced Lois. Oh my god,
I'm going to take a you you forget really richy but he does,
he too. I'm going to take also in the studio with us. Make
it very rare apparence. I don't think it's rare anymore. Really, it
is the very lowly lowest lane double. How are you? I'm great,
thank you, thank you for having me. Hi everybody. She's drinking a
drink coke. Yeah, this is water, not Carver. So we're all
here and as I said, to musical like styles, and we're going to
be talking about drummers tonight, but we thought we would start off with some
rock and roll drummer trivia. Okay, so, uh, I have a
funny story, you have a story, a little opening, Go ahead,
please, I want to hear the funny story first. Here we go.
Okay, So, especially if it's trim lois it's well it is. This
is a drummer story. A fan wrote a letter and addressed it to the
best drummer in the world. The letter arrived at Jean Krooper's house, but
he said, Melissa isn't for me, so he sent it to Bill Bruford.
Brufford thought, I know who this is really for and sent it to
Buddy Rich. Buddy Rich. Buddy Rich thought finally, and he ripped it
open and read the first two words, which were dear Ringo, good way
to get off Ringo? The most underrated drummer? Or was he rated?
Pretty much where he was? I think around musicians, I think he's he's
rated. He's considered one of the best five I think in pop and rock
music back then. You know, brought a lot to those songs, no
doubt about it. I think a lot of people. In fact, he
was just in this and Ringo isn't that good. So he threw him out,
threw him out in the store, didn't give him his keys. But
yeah, Ringo is the if you can go on YouTube and find what they
what they do is they take off Ringo's drums, leave everything else in and
then they just have like some regular guy just play through it and it's it's
you know what I mean, it sounds flat, it's not exciting. You
know, a regular like good drummer play through it who's familiar with the song,
and it sounded yeah, yeah, you know, but interesting. He
added stuff to it, a lot of you know a lot of different kind
of you know, fills the right places and like what you doing day and
the life and stuff. You know, that's really kind of rain unbelievable,
you know, I mean, the the drums became a fourth instrument as opposed
to just going to be in the background. So anyway, we have some
rock drummer trivia. Okay, were ready you forget this stuff? Okay?
Yeah, me either. I don't know anything about drummers. It's multiple traice.
Okay, here we go, see, okay we go? Wow?
Oh good one that you're gonna it's question number one? Is this friend zone?
Oh that's so funny. Jimmy Nichols. He filled in for like eleven
days. Okay, don't give it away, there we go ready. In
June of nineteen sixty four, the Beatles began a world tour which would bring
them from Scandinavia to Australia. However, ring got tonso light and had to
stay behind in England to get treated. His replacement for eight shows on the
tour was a session drummer named Jimmy Nickel, who had been recommended highly by
Beatles producer George Martin. Of all the drummers available in England at the time,
why didn't Nickel get the gig? Okay? Okay? A. He
grew up with Ringo B. He played in a cover band that recorded knockoff
versions of Beatles songs CEE. He had previously filled in for Dave Clock of
the Dave Clock five D. The previous year. He had been named best
New Jazz Drummer by New Music Express. Let me just I'll give you the
traces one more time. A. He grew up with Ringo B. He
played in a cover band that recorded knockoff versions of Beatles songs. See.
He had previously filled in for Dave Clock of the Dave Clock five D.
The previous year, he'd been named best New Jazz Drummer by New Music Express.
Got a Richie first, I think it's the Dave Clark Hey, he
had filled in for Dave Clark. All right, Mattin, what do you
say I'm gonna go with with Richie? Yeah, I think it's I think
it's c. Dave Clark filled in for Dave clak Lois. I'm going with
A. I think he knew Ringo. He grew up with Ringo one one.
I'm gonna really go out in the limb here and go with the NME.
Okay, New Music he was named best in Jazz Dramma. Yeah.
I don't know if that's a fun factor, if that's false, but we'll
say those are good crewds. Well you're all wrong, Oh God. The
Answeres b Nicol was a session drama for a Top six, a low budget
album label that recorded cover versions of Beatles songs and released them at half the
price of Beatle records. This meant Nickle, this man's nicol already knew all
the Beatles songs in their arrangements. He didn't have to be taught. And
wait, he had just done a session with the guy Tommy quickly was that
some British guy years ago? Something? Quickly? He had just done a
session with Doreg Martin and that's how we saw him. Yeah, okay,
number two everyone zero for everyone, honey, I mean lowis Okay, here
we go number two. Stuart Copeland, drummer for the Police, had a
very famous father a few people know about. Copeland credits his father's job with
exposing him to world music influences, which helped create his unique drumming style.
What was Stuart Copeland's father famous for? Okay, okay. A. He
worked for the United Nations B. He was a founding member of the CIA.
C. He was part of a family. He was part of a
family vaudeville act that toured the world for three decades. D. He was
the conductor of the London World Symphony AUGUSTA. Okay. Why was he famous?
A? He worked at the u n B, founding member of C.
I A. C part of a family Vodeville act that toured the world
for three decades. D he was the conductor of the London World Symphony.
AUGUSTA. Let's get to lowest. Wow, Okay, I have zero idea.
I'm just going to go with D because that just should have something to
do with music. One one. What was D? That was the he
was the orchestra. He was conductor of the London World Symphony. AUGUSTA.
Yeah, it's gotta be something cool like that, okay, Martin, Yeah,
the answer is definitely D. I'd like it to be C. That
would be that would be good fun. But yeah, he was Richie,
sorry rich C I A. That was in the C I A. Richie
is right? Oh really? Uh. Copeland's father, Miles Copeland Junior,
was one of the first intelligence officers hired by the CIA, and he was
the first CIA agent assigned to the Middle East. His most the police.
Yeah, yeah, is that really true? Did you? Yeah? He
had some kind of connection, like not. His most infamous mission was helping
to overthrow the government of Iran in nineteen fifty three, which led to the
rise of tyrannical tyrannical dictator the Shah of Iran, who in turn was overthrown
by the religious maniacs who run the country. Now, fun fact this I
didn't know. Stuart's Stuart Copeland's brother, Miles Copeland third was the manager for
the police and his brother Ian Copland was their booking agent. So their family
kind of ran the band, which is kind of interesting, I think pretty
amazing. Yeah, Miles went through CIA training and he was gonna join it,
and then he started managing the band. Yeah, yeah, he Yeah.
The father was in with uh mattin. You probably heard of Kim philby
Kim philby the famous British guy who was he was supposedly What's where do you
go? Oh no, where's Martin? Brusia Intelligence just get rid of him.
He was about to reveal something. Wow, he was, Yeah exactly,
and there you go or cut off. You just got canceled. It's
it's a conspiracy. Thought back though, and then we'll go back to it.
Sure he'll come back. He was, he was in. He worked
for the OSS during World War Two. This is the father. And then
when they started the CIA in forty seven, he was one of the first
people they hired and he was the first agent in the Middle East. He
was in bay Ruth. That's where Stuart Copeland grew up in Cairo and bay
Ruth, and you know that's where he says he got all kinds of you
know, the different you know, Arabic drumming and all that stuff. You
know. Yeah, see, I didn't even know he was American. He's
American, and the two other guys of British. But he lived, but
he went to live in England. One the father mind and you're back with
us. Yeah, it's the heat. Sorry, guys, I thought it
was just for some reason, I thought it was M I five, M
I six, you're pulling you off the air. We were talking about Kim
Philbery, which is he was a British spy who was Yeah, it could
be g c h Q, which is the Spy Center is not too far
away from here. Who is Kim? He was a British spy was he
was in the British government and he and five other people turned out to be
Russian spies during World War Two? Right? Is that it the elevator pitch
Mountain. Yeah, there was Philby, Burgess and MacLean with the three kind
of famous spy figures and there was another guy who was vaguely distantly related to
the royal family. I think he was the keeper of the of the royal
family's picture collection or something like that. Jesus and he was involved, So
you know they're everywhere. Yeah, as has just been proved that the sustas
already and knocked me out out of the meeting, So okay, here we
go fifth time. Keith Moon was the drummer for The Who from nineteen sixty
four until his death in seventy eight. He was known as much for his
rocky antics as his unique drumming style. These antics included taking a helicopter from
his estate to his local pub, even though the distance is only one eighth
of a mile, playing jen in Dean Songs twenty four hours a day for
months on end, and moving into Alice Cooper's house uninvited, where he dressed
up as a French maid and cleaned Cooper's mansion top to bottom in two days.
That sounds crazy, well, he was a crazy guy. Moon is
also credited with coming up for the name Moon is also credited with coming up
with the name of one of the most famous bands in rock history. Who
was the band led Zeppelin, the roly Stones cream or you two Lois Cream
one wound you two, Martin you two Richie led Zeppelin. Richie's right,
it must be that kind of this answer. Bok, it's going to go
over like a lead balloon. Right, led Zeppelin came up with Zeppelin in
nineteen sixty six. It was new yard Birds. Right, Sorry, I'm
getting too ahead of my houself. That's good. One that said that it
was going to go over like a balloon. In nineteen sixty six, Moon
briefly considered leaving. In nineteen sixty six, Moon briefly considered leaving the Who
and starting a super group with session guitarist Jimmy Page and Who bassist John in
Twistle. The musicians had a meeting during which Moon said his idea went over
like a led Zeppelin. Paige remembered the comment and used the team in his
own supergroup two years later. Okay, okay, number four, So the
score is go ahead, Richie. To one's keeping track. Everybody has zero
except for to who has two points. Richie. Number four was the helicopter
story, true, Yes, yep, he take a helicopter. He had
it. There was a plub break down. The clown of the street and
he take a helicopter to it, and he did a lot of stuff that
you know wasn't as funny, But all right, let's go on number four.
I spent a last weekend with Keith Moon weekend. Really, you got
to hear that story. You and Keith Moon on the last weekend. What
do you remember? Well, Keith came to see the Rocky Horror Show and
for the first time, and he came backstage afterwards because the bass player in
the band was a guy called Dennis Cowen, and Dennis had been in the
Bonzo Dog. Whether anybody remembers the Donze Bonzered old band in the States,
the guys, yes, yeah, we heard of that. So I ended
up naked on the couch and that was it question for Hal Blaine was the
drummer for the famed group of session musicians from the sixties and seventies known as
the Wrecking Crew. He's among the most recruited drummers in music history, with
thirty five thousand sessions and six thousand singles. Constantly performing on the road,
he would bring a rubber stamp and ink with him and mock every venue he
played in, usually in very high define places. These rubber stamps are still
being found today. What was the saying how Blaine used on the stamp that
he put on these venues? What was the saying hal Blaine used to stamp
on these venues? Okay, you got the story. Yep, he marked
his story. Okay, Number A, don't blame me. I'm the drummer
B property of hal Blaine Charity Fund. See hal Blaine strikes again. D
I'll be back, oh Lois, I'm gonna go with Wow, I feel
like I should know this. I'll be back. I'll be back, Richie.
I guess what was it? The second one property of hal Blaine Charity
Fund. No, the other one after just just his name, right,
yeah, hal Blaine. Hal Blaine strikes again. Yeah, probably that.
Yeah, I'll go with that too. Hal Blaine strikes Martin. That sounds
clever for him, Martin. I'll go with whatever says okay with him.
The answer is hang on, hang on, it's not here for some reason.
Yeah. Literally, the answers in here. But the answer is hal
Blaine strikes again. And what he did was he just said this quirk where
he played on so many songs and any kind anytime they gave him the shots,
he would just put a brother stamp on it, hal Blaine with his
name, then it's not hal Blaine strikes again. And then he just started
bringing in on the road with them, and wherever he would go he'd find,
he'd find some out of the way place and stamp it. So Springsteen
tells the story. He was in some venue, I think it was in
New Jersey and he says they were like renovating the you know, the the
backstage when he was there, his dressing room. And he says he was
there when they took down a wall, and there on the original wall it
says, hal Blaine strikes again. So and they found them. Who's the
name of that band? Uh a Speed? They were playing at the Hampton
Casino about four years ago and someone said, hey, look at this,
and there's a rubbers stamp hal Blaine strikes again. So nice. Yeah,
I read about that, and so I said, hey, what the hell?
So I wrote to hal Blaine's fan club, believe it or not,
and his son in law answered me, and I said, if I sent
you some index gods, would you have hal stamp his stamp on it?
Right? And he said, yeah, So I sent a but then he
says, he says, but send the ink pad to he might not have
an ink pad. He was probably ninety at this point and he lived in
Hawaii. So I sent it to him, and no. Three or four
weeks later, a bunch of Index gods come back. He signed them and
then he stamped them, which is cool. And again I said, wow,
this is great. And then about two days later, I go back
down the post office an any meal back the inkpad. He was so everybody
got that except me. He was on one hundred and fifty gold records and
forty top singles, forty top. Even the Beatles had like twenty one number
one singles. He was on forty number one singles. Wow. Yeah,
I mean he's just played all different kind of styles, you know, like
there's the guy from some band said, yeah, I didn't realize that,
but Hal Blaine is like my ten top favorite drummers, you know what I
mean, because he played on everything, but played differently. Well. Blaine
was trying to give Jim Gordon a leg up every so often. He was
trying to help him out. Yeah, right, up and up and coming
guy. Yeah. I think they liked each other. That's how Sonny and
she had got the start hanging around that studio. Ye I think him and
Tammoorine or whatever. Okay, okay, Nutty, yeah, yeah, right,
yeah, here we go. All right, Okay, so everybody got
a point. Everyone got that. So let's see. Now it's three for
Ritchie, one for one, one for Martin, zero for me. Well,
this is how you know that he doesn't share the answers with me.
Okay, here we go. When a recent survey magazine Survey asked who is
the worst rock drummer of the sixties and seventies, Dave Clock with the Dave
Clock five one in the Landslide. This is ironic, to say the least,
because Dave Clark carried the secret with him for years. That would turn
that opinion on its head. What was Dave Clock's secret. A he had
a degree in percussion from the London School of Music. B. He created
and built his entire drum set by hand. C. He was one of
Freddie Mercury's lovers. D. He never played drums on any of the Dave
Clock five hits. Okay. A. He had a degree in percussion from
the London School of Music. B. He created and built an entire drum
set by his hand. See he was one of Freddie Mercury's lovers. D
He never played drums on any of the Dave clock five hits. Lois,
Oh boy, why do you start with me? I'm going to say,
since they're saying he's a bad drummer, let's do B Because if he built
the drums himself, maybe that's why he was there was a bad drummer,
Martin. Go ahead, Martin, for sure be he created and built his
own drum Okay, Oh wait, wait, mart what you say? Not
that one? I say? He didn't play on any of these? Okay,
he never played drums on any of their hits. Okay, everyone to
get one going? D? Should I Can I change my answer? Go
ahead, I'm going to change D. I'm losing answer is D. He
never played drums on any of the Dave clock five hits, although Dave Clark
played the Ben's live performances. Udio drummer Bobby Graham played on all the DC
five records, something that was not revealed for many years afterwards. In other
words, this is with Weirpot the worst drummer of the sixties and seventies.
Was a session guy. Do you know what I mean? Didn't that makes
sense? I thought Jimmy Nichols played on all of he actually uh paum conn.
He felt so bad for Jimmy Nichol that he set him up. He
was in Peter and Gordon's touring band for a long time. There goes Okay,
here we go, fun facts ready. David Clark was the Yeah.
Dave Clarke was the first rock musician to retain the rights to all his music,
becoming a multi millionaire in the process. He was also the manager and
the producer for the band, so he was the first guy to asked for
his original master tapes back and he got them. Okay. But he was
also a close friend of Freddie Mercury and was at his bedside when the lead
singophon Queen passed away. So he was. But he also wrote a play
that ran in London for like three or four years. Okay, this is
Dave Clark. It's I think it's called Fame a Burne or something. They
said like four number one singles came out of it. Stevie Wonder was in
it, David Cassidy was in it. I guess it just didn't so anyway,
Well, that's the trivia part of the show. Why don't we clap?
Why don't we We're going to clap the aquoad for ourselves. I'm going
to say this is you've done trivia before and I've never had somebody get you
know, like so many. Right, Richie got four the five, One
got two of the five, Martin got two of the five, and only
because I stole an answer from everybody else, I got one at it.
Yeah, you're on the school aboard, that's all. You might have to
invite him back for a rematch with somebody sometimes and this Connor, Okay,
so when do we do this? Why don't we take a rush break down?
And we'll be right back after this. You're listening to Mac Maloney's musical
X File show here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. We'll be right back
after this. And now the further adventures of Al Ferrari, star of Max's
new book How to Dump a Body at Sea and Not Get Caught Mac malone
Show. This is Lois, Hello, Lois al Ferrari, give me Mac.
I'm sorry, Al. He's doing his court ordered CST at the moment,
CST. What's that a time zone cat sensitivity training, you know,
after the incident. Can I help you? Well, look, I just
heard from Amazon that Max's new book, How to Dump a Body at Sea
and knut Get Caught is selling like hotcakes with lots of syrup. Right now,
I'm touring to you know, promote the book, calling from Vegas.
Well, that's great to hear. Did they tell you why people like it
so much? Well, one guy said, I must have been a pretty
smart, juvenile delinquent. Somebody was amazed how I turned to Toyota into a
Rolls Royce. Somebody else said it was cool that I ripped off seas.
Somebody was shocked that the mob was pissed off of me because of one lousy
day old plum, one little plum. And that's all in the book,
you know it. There's also, you know, particular advice like how to
torch a car and how to make lots of money in prison, which I
did, though it might have gotten me killed. Also dangerous making friends with
this iconic parrot, which ain't exactly easy. I'm bad. So anyway,
I'm on this book tour and I'm at a place called the Kitten Ranch just
outside of Vegas. I swear. I thought it was a place where they
raised kittens. Oh my gosh. So when they found out who I was,
like a big celebrity or something, they asked me if I wanted to
be part of a movie about cats. You're adorable, sweetie. Now they
wanted me to make a movie with what they call a quote unquote tasteful nude
scene. Oh my gosh, Al, is that even possible? I don't
know. I passed out right after the yell action. And now they want
five hundred bucks. I have to wash dishes for a month here. You
don't want to know what the kitchen is like in a cat house. Oh
so it is a place where they raise cats. Shot have back, Give
me a call, sweetheart. Remember remind everybody to check out Max's new book,
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musical exiles here on the Distant Thunder Radio. Not worry, this is Mac
Maloney. Wow, what the show we have for you tonight. First off,
let me introduce the members of the Plastic Girls. He's here, pretty
famous. One one go back, everybody, Wow, I'm here, don't
worry all right. Good. Also with us in the studio is the lovely
Lewis Lenane. Hi, everybody, it's good to be here. Also calling
in from England, I think on the Welsh border is a good friend,
Martin fitz Gibbon. How are you, Martin? I'm good, Hi,
guys, nice to be And down there in Fort Laudadale is our other good
friend, rich Kennedy, Richie, how are you doing hey? Now tonight
we're talking about rock drummers, all things drummers, and I think Lois you
have some fun facts about drummers, right, I do have some fun facts.
So this first one is in the early nineteen seventies, Emerson, Lake
and Palmer were about to undertake a world tour. Each band member would be
sponsored by a British company. Palmer sponsored was British Steel, telling Palmer they
wanted to build him a drum made of steel. He was asked how thick
should the drums be. Palmer said he just picked a number out of the
air and told them one half inch thick. Palmer did not see the drum
kit until the band was about to go on the road. Only then did
he discover the drum kit weighed two point five tons and a half tons.
Because of the half inch thick steel drums, the group had no choice but
to hold the thing around with them for months. It also required Palmer's drum
riser to be strengthened, and in some cases the stage itself had to be
reinforced because of the weight. It took three roadies just to move the bass
drum. Ringo Star later bought the drum set and it's currently in storage at
his estate. Ringo bought it. If you can believe it. The thing
weighed two and a half tons, right, and they had to send advanced
people to make sure that the stage could handle the weight of the How much
as a regular drum set? Does it weigh one hundred and fifty pounds?
Not even an maybe the dand yeah, yeah, two and a half tons,
two and a half times, And he said, I just pulled out
of the year. He says, how do I know? How do I
know? How thick it is? But when you think that's a half inch
of steel around everything around everything, go ahead? Played they sounded though?
Did they sounded? Fun? Facts? Yeah? I don't know, yeah,
yeah, okay, drummer Pat Mastello has the distinction of playing with two
wildly opposite hit bands. In the nineteen eighties, he was the drummer for
Mister Mister. Then he moved to England and became the drummer for XTC.
That's strange. Can you think of two bands that were so opposite? Now?
I wonder if Ritchie already knows this. He's also played on records by
King Crimson, which he's a big King Crimson fan, The Stickman, and
the Rembrandts. Who did the theme song for the Friends TV show I'll be
there for you? There's a trivia question? Who did the song for the
Friends show? Which I never watched? Well, the Friends. Everybody who
watched Friends would know that. Imagine the residuals from that anyway, Okay,
go on, please fun facts about drummers. Lois isn't his name pronounced Massdalletto?
Oh? What did I say mass to letter? And who's the King
Crimson fan? Rich Richie? Really? I'm a huge King Crimson fan.
Really? Yeah, I really preferred the Great Lake first two albums. Yeah,
that's the first record to the Crimson King and had music next lowest?
Please fun facts, all drum good stuff, Okay, I have a that
you were talking about hal Blaine earlier. Hal Blaine is also credited with popularizing
the disco beat after he recorded shup shoo that does not look like shoboob after
he recorded uh shoboop sound by opening and closing the high hat at appropriate intervals
on Johnny Rivers or Side of Town. The effect had been wild and wildly
used in jazz, but professional recording engineers disliked it because of its resemblance to
white noise. So what he's saying is that he's he's raising and he's lowering.
What do you call it the high hat? Yeah, you can hear
it, and there's there's like a space in there that sounds kind of like
white noise or static or whatever. But it became very popular and it was
like the It was literally the beat of the disco era. And I think
he did it on by mistake or something too interesting. Do we have anymore?
They lost? Uh? Just one more little tidbit. In a more
recent poll, who was the worst drummer of the modern rock eerror? Is
it you know we should do before we give the insult, let's go around
the horn. Who do you think is the worst drummer of the modern rock
era. And I'm saying I'm gonna say that's from the eighties to the present.
Okay, one one worst drummer. Jeez, to me, it's drummers
that I can't hear. Okay, And like every time I listen to Pink
Floyd, I really can't hear any drumming. Yeah, they say, not
that I care about it, but yeah, I'll have to say. People
Mason pops into my head because they never hear any drumming. And you know
Rich Rich Uh, Tommy Lee, Tommy Lane from Martin least favorite drummer,
least favorite, the worst. I have absolutely no idea is there music in
the nineteen eighties? Don't the computer? The light was the name of that,
the Fairlight. So I'm I have absolutely no idea. I was.
I was with the day clock answer, that's absolutely great, but that would
have been the nineteen sixties. Okay, So I wait with anticipation to see
what see what the answer is. To end the anticipation. Don Henley of
the Eagles and Lars Ulwark of Metallica tied for number one. First, he's
the most annoying. Yeah. Now here's the thing too, Why is he
so annoying? What is wrong with that? He's just saying he's annoying.
Guy, he just wants to be while you're in a band, man.
You know, I relaxed. But you know what they did. They caught
the Eagles Don Henley lip singing in their concerts, which is very strange,
just in the past six months that I don't understand because they're known for their
harmonies, you know, even more for their musicianship. Really and uh,
yeah, they caught him and the way they condum was funny because people go
around and they record all their concerts like the Grateful Dead people. And then
once people got a word of this lois what do you ribbon lettuce over there?
Oh, they started matching it up. They started syncing it up with
past concerts and it's and it all, it's it sunk up perfectly. So
you know that's I don't know. I don't really like him. He's going
after all these little YouTube people who record Eagle songs. He's going after them.
He's going after them. Yeah. One guy made sixty bucks on a
on YouTube, which I guess is a lot of money for some live performance
of an Eagle song. And Don Henley's lawyers went after him and brought him
to court. Yeah for sixty bucks. Yes, yeah, he's the big
he's big into that. Yeah. I mean I don't know where it goes
people. Yeah for literally for pennies. I know they want to protect their
YouTube. Yeah oh yeah, yeah all the time. Yep. Yeah.
He complains about the Eagles a lot because he's like, you know, I'd
love to do some some lessons on their music because he just does like guitar
stuff, and like he goes every time I try, they just they just
you know, strike it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know those
guys are And I read that book by Don Felder, it's called Heaven and
Hell or whatever, and being in the Eagles, man, it was just
it was torture. I mean, you're a rock star. You're getting everything.
You're getting money, you're getting girls, getting coke, you're getting the
works. But he said it was horrible. Every day him and Randy Meisner
would go in literally to work and deal with these two assholes, Don Henley
and the other guy who's the other guy. He's now passed away. His
son plays in the band though, and they were just mean to the other
players because they were jealous. They always thought these guys are going to take
over opposition. They were like the Lennon and McCartney of the band. And
meanwhile the other guys are saying, that's the last place I want to be,
That's the last thing I want to be. Is like one of these
guys, you know. But yeah, it was kind of a sad story
as it turns out, heaven and hell. But Don Fielder and the funny
thing about him was he's working in a music store in Florida and a guy
walks in. He says, can I take a tole lessons from you?
And it was Tom Petty and then it kind of happened again. No,
he was he was playing with his own band in might have been around what
Lada deal whatever, And the opening band was a band called the Almond Joys
and they were the Almond Brothers, you know. And he also he also
met Steve Stills along the way. So it's kind of funny we talk about
how musicians for some reason, these guys they cross paths, you know all
the time, you know. And and so it says, well, because
it's such a small fraternity, so hey Martin, listen, we might cut
you off with your story about Keith Moon, you had a wild I was
driving up the King's Road in Chelsea and Keith there was this kind of commotion
going up in front of me. I didn't know what was going on,
but Keith was throwing stones at the cars as they were going past. Yeah,
yeah, that was Keith. He was on something. Yeah when he
was when he you know, when he was sober, he was the nicest
guy in the world. I always say that. But you know, if
he was on something, then he could be multiple personalities. When you were
sobering, you could let him babysit your kids. Yeah, maybe, okay,
you daughter. You know the way that he met the who was they
were playing I think their name at the time was the Highlights or something and
the high numbers right, and he saw them and they had another drummer,
and after the show he walked up to them and said, I'm a better
drummer than this guy. You know, you should have me in the band,
right, And that's the famous story. But Pete Townsend tells the story.
He says, when he approached them, he was completely dressed in ginger.
He had like you know when ginger Suko thie Vest works boots he had
he had died as he had ginger. Okay, so it's just like this
freaking guy who and they said okay, and he got behind the drum set
bubbah blah and they said okay, you're in, and they fired the guy
and it's it's it's kind of like it's kind of like the Beatles story all
over again, you know, where they're okay, things are going on,
but they just needed that one last piece of the puzzle. Ringo was there
beetles and the moon was this. He had twenty two drums at its height,
He had twenty two drums in his set, and his lady said,
there's so many drums, so he won't miss one. And he never kept
the He never really kept the beat. What he was what he would do
is just well he kept the beat, but he would put fills in almost
everywhere. That was this thing. He would just put fills in in odd
places. You know. He used to drive the bassist John Enfistle nuts.
He says, at first, I can't work with this guy, but then
he kind of get into it and they became, you know, four separate
pieces of one band, and it was very successful. Sounds that because yeah.
I mean when when the High Numbers started, when Keith started playing with
them, he played, if you like, in a very conventional way,
so he would keep time on the high hat, and he played the two
and four et cetera, et cetera. But there came a point I don't
know where it was, but where it was visually much more exciting and everything
else, and he just like would hit anything, yes, and he kind
of became revered for that in the end, I suppose. I first,
I first saw The Who on British TV. I was a school kid and
they came on and you just went, Wow, what a band, because
you know, you had Townsend was doing stuff that I've never seen anybody do
before, even simple things like running the guitar strings along the mic stands,
all that kind of business. And Keith was doing what Keith was doing,
and John Westl on bass was just amazing, this kind of incredible bass player.
And then I so I thought I must go and see these guys.
So about all night later I went to which is two weeks in the UK
talk two weeks later I went to see them and they were in this little
kind of not a village hall, but it was close to that, and
they just had this this whole refurbished. And the thing I remember most about
the gig was Keith Townsend putting his guitar through the ceiling his guitar. Yes,
yes, yes, and the guy was going nuts because but the audience
loved it. We all loved it. We thought it was fantastic. They
were different when they hit, they sounded different, you know, they were
violent almost in a way. Yeah, there's another good book. Well not
really. Lois made me stop reading it halfway through, but it's called Who
We Am I the Pete Townsend autobiography was making you a bit, making me
a built nuts or something. He's not if you can believe this book,
He's not the guy that you think he is. Like for instance, when
they went to Woodstock Lowess blockyr Rears, I take off you he had never
he was still a virgin. Let's say he had never had sex with a
woman when he was at Woodstock, not come on, you know the Townsend
Yes, absolutely, and he I don't know. It got to the point
where I got to stop reading this because first of all, it's ruining my
image of this guy. And number two is just too freaking weird. Just
too weird. I mean saying that he has visions and stuff, and he
signed contracts when he you know, thought he was unsatin and all this stuff.
And you say, well, how much are you gonna believe in this?
You know? But uh, they they definitely can't, mostly because of
him. They definitely had that sound. No one sounds like them. You
cannot replicate the Who. You just can't do it, you know. And
they were a great band. They were a great band, you know.
And here's the here's a trivia question. Who's the original league guitar player for
the Who? This is extra points if you get this one. Okay,
I'm thinking Richie, I'll know this one. I don't know, man,
Now the guitar wasn't Roger Daltrey. Roger Daltrey was the original league guitar player
for them, So apparently he can he can play the guitars. Yeah,
he's doing a solo twy. That's not so well if they well, yeah,
well Towns had had the thing and the thing about Towns. And two,
he was an odd student and he was making more money in a week
than some of his teachers were making in a month, you know, like
a senior year in college or something, and they really resented them when they
flunked them and stuff, and but he's like, yeah, I make more
in a weekend than you do in a month. And they resented him for
that. But that whole idea of smashing guitars and going with it, that
was that that kind of oddest thing where you kind of destroy what you've just
made and you know, blah blah blah. Performance on. Anyway, speaking
about the cop of the odd Birds, the Oddbirds did that from time to
time to not what do you mean theybird's smashing the guitars? I know they
did. Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure blow up, you know,
but how often does you do? Jeff Beck does it in that film,
but I think he does it just because of the who I don't know,
I've never seen him doing Andrex did it. Henderson you don't let his guitar
on fire and so on, but yeah, Hendrix for sure. Anyway,
So listen, why don't we do this, Why don't we take a quick
break now, and we'll be right back after this. And you're listening to
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This is Macamaroney. Wow, what is show we have for you tonight?
Very quickly training us tonight the very famous one one is here. Girls,
Hello Michaelo, everybody, welcome back to the show. Had a great time
so far. This is this is a fun show. I love these shows.
We did most fun anybody can have on an evening, especially on my
time zone. Well, yeah, where it's already tomorrow. There you go.
Wow, it's a good name for a book. Well also when your
time zone is a good friend. Martin Fitzgibbon, who is a a drummer
from the sixties ever, was talking about when did you start professionally nineteen sixty
five, I was no, sorry, sixty six, I was sixteen years
of age and started playing professionally. Didn't earn very much in the way of
money, but I had a lot of fun and it was It was a
nice card to say professional musician, was it? So what was your gig?
What was the first thing you played? Well, I still played drums,
if that's what you mean. I mean at your first gig? What
was it? Was it a dance? Was it in a bar or?
Oh? Yeah, well we played a dance and we played really bad versions
of motown songs. I have no idea why we even tried to do that,
because you know, like those Motown guys were were amazing. You've got
to have sold yes, yeah, Benny Benjamin was the drummer or a lot
of those things who was absolutely amazing. So I don't know why we figured
we could do that. But you know, we were fifteen, sixteen year
old, So you feel us, aren't you. You got paid. You
got paid, that's important. Yeah, I mean that's a big plus in
the music business. If you get paid and you get out with your equipment
intact after a few fights take place, then you know, You've had a
good night a friend of mine. So many old clips of bands in it.
It's I don't know, was it the odds versus the rockers? What
was going on with all these spikes and throwing chairs that happened to rolling stones
all the time, right, yeah, yeah, that's a whole differently.
They'd still be playing as best they could and chairs are flying around, and
then people are running on the on the stage and he used to pulling them
off, just Keith still playing. Not Fade Away or something. There's a
film with him. Some guy ran on the stage and some concert, I
think it was in California, and he just takes his guitar off and he
hits the guy, smacking the head. He goes, oh, yeah,
I didn't see that. I was protecting my singer. He says, I
had to protect my singer. Yeah, he hits the guy. The guy
boom, he's going, you know, one of those strats, so you
know they whatever he was playing. The heavy guitars are heavy. I had
no idea how heavy some of these guitars were. And I don't know,
I knowin can do a double neck one. That thing must weigh twenty pounds.
Rich would you say, yeah, I mean yeah, he telecaster strats
anywhere from seven to That's a lot to have strung over your shirt every night,
night after night, and then you have to play the freaking thing.
So also with us is a good friend, Rich Kennedy down there in Fort
Laudadell. Rich, thanks for joining his musician, Rich Kennedy. How you
doing Jimmy Hendrix's disciple, would you say? Is that accurate? Wow?
Years ago I listened to him for two years straight. I think, hmm,
okay, you survived that. So, I mean, I don't want
to say this, but it was he overrated in any respect? No,
I don't think so. He was an awesome rhythm player, awesome solo is
awesome songwriter. You know, he didn't even like his own voice, but
you know his voice is good. And how about how about those two guys
playing with them, Mitch Mitchell and the other guy. Were they any good?
I always shut down on No. He loved Mitch. And then they
when they had h what was the guy, buddy Buddy Miles. Yeah,
when they did band the Gypsies. After that they got Mits mitchelland and they
just had Billy Cox, the bass player from uh from there, and uh
that was supposedly the best version of the Experience or Jimmy Hendrick group, because
you had because Noel wasn't really a bass player. He was a guitarist.
Okay, yeah, yeah, I always heard that, you know, they
weren't really you know, who they were supposed to be. But we know
his story, Richie, and I know his story about what happened those two
guys. And it's only because for a while I was the pr guy for
Patrick Maraz who was played in Yeas and the Moody Blues, and he played
in he played in a band called the Knights. Okay, now this was
originally Keith Emerson's band. Keith Emerson left and Maras took over and they had
a couple of good, uh you know, hit records and so on albums.
And then he gets he gets to drawing, yes, okay, and
that's the that's the step up to the major leagues. So now he hasn't
He has a apartment in London somewhere that he doesn't need, so he lets
no reading. And Mitch Mitchell lived there, remember the story. We went
out to and they trashed the place, They trashed the place. They had
no money they never paid him rent. It cost him money to fix the
damage they did to it because they was so pissed off that they weren't with
Jimmy anymore. Well he was. He had died, right, he was
like over a year and had nothing to do. Ye, amras is the
nicest guy in the world. Had to go kick them out, which must
have been huge. Yeah. So anyway, you know, you got to
say, was he like, uh from the Netherlands or from uh Switzerland?
Switzerland? Pat? But I just remember his accent. He's like, come
on, guys, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jimmy's Jimmy's dead. He's
dead. Come on, you have to move on and get out of here.
Nobody comes to see the rhythm section Jimmy Andrews. Yeah. It's a
funny guy. Patrick Murras. Interesting guy. We knew him for a long
time. They haven't talked to him in a while. But very unique individual
and the best story I ever heard of him. This is about drummers.
I will tell this real quick. So he was like his father ran a
concert home in switzerland' zor in Switzerland, so he got to know all these
people. He met Louis Armstrong and all these people and this is a drags
club. So his father always wanted him go to business school, but he
wanted to go to music school. So he says, if you're going to
go to music school, you have to go work for it. So he
took a job on a construction site in Maratz and he hated the boss.
And one day he's wheeling a bucket of cement like one floor up and he
dumps it on the boss. He gets fired, so now he's got to
go tell his father. He gets fired. So he and his father are
walking along the street. And in Switzerland they've had a state lottery, country
lottery for years and people sell the tickets on the street. He buys one
with the last dollar he has, and the worst day of his life,
telling him his father that he's lost his job, cannot go to college,
and he hits for five hundred thousand dollars I mean, I mean, you
know. And then two years later he's recorting for Lamborghini Records and everyone to
sign a contract, they gave him a Lamborghini. He says, I went
to Liamborghini's a potty at the house and he says, all it was was
hundreds of the Laghini's packed up and down this the mile long driveway. So
yeah, he was. He was a good guy, nice guy, went
through the whole rock thing. A great player, you know, real kind
of class school player. But anyway, yeah, Patrick Moraz not a drummer
though, So I'm going to start with my favorite drummer. Okay, I'm
looking at always Like have I introduced everyone lost? I don't know. Okay,
so the introduced you though, that's the important Well I'm here, everybody,
and I gotta say my favorite drummer. I mean it's actually split between
two. Okay, Bill Ruffort, who we mentioned earlier in the show,
who it's kind of funny. He's a jazz drummer who came over to the
rock world, you know, and he kind of went to the dock side,
but for a band like Gas, who was very progressive and had a
lot of instruments, a lot of stuff going on, you know, a
lot of time changes and all that kind of stuff, and he played in
almost in a simple way. It's it's it's weird how he did it.
A lot of his thing was just based on what the snare drum hitting it
once every four times, you know, but he just knew what he was
doing in those first years album close to the edge of the drumming in that
is like unbelievable and fragile as well, and then he went on to more
of a jazz guy and stuff like that. But he's one of my favorite
drummers. And then Jeff Picaro of Toto, which you know, I know
Toto was like not the most say there's Richie sticking his singer down his throat,
but he was a great drama. That guy. Jeff Ricaro was just
amazing drummer. And he also he was just a kid and he helped a
lot of young drummers actually start their careers. He was really a good guy.
Died at like thirty two, you know, spraying on secticides and his
plants or something. I mean, yeah, yeah, very yeah. But
Toto was someone I came to Toto late in life, but they were great
music. They were like the nineteen eighties version of the Wrecking Crew. They
were basically the session musicians in LA and they farmed their own band. They
played all of Michael Jackson songs and stuff. Bos Skaggs, that's Toto backing
him those people up. So yeah, Jeff Piccaro and Bill Brufford I got
to say, and Ringo I think goes out without mentioning. I think that's
the whole different class. But those two guys are my favorites. I'm gonna
got a wan one now, I'm gonna I know, Charlie Watson. Who
else? Yeah? Right, Charlie, we miss you. He had that.
It's because of his jazz background apparently. I mean I never thought about
it at the time when I was a kid, you know, listening to
them banging away with tell Me and Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry covers. He
didn't really sound like a jazz drummer to me. But that's where he got
his chops and that's where he he until his death, still lives. Right.
So, my jazz quartett, you're a drummer, so with with with.
If you're a jazz drummer, is rock easier? Is that what we're
trying to say? I guess. So, yeah, it's a different kind
of discipline. I think, a different kind of technique. I mean,
I never I can't imagine Charlie playing jazz really. He was kind of quite
simplistic in his He's playing in the in the same way that Ringo was.
I think although Ringo, I think Ringo was more intricate. And you were
saying earlier on about you can isolate drum tracks now and listen to some of
the stuff that the Beatles did. And Ringo is an interesting character, but
I don't want to take over one one's kind of so maybe maybe we'll come
back to that, but well, go ahead. One of the things that
Charlie Watt said, and it's in that book, Sympathy for the Simpathy for
the Drummer, that I think you gave me back, yes, the opening
page, she says, what the f is a rock drummer? Because he
didn't consider himself a rock drummer. I agree, yeah, he didn't at
all. He was a disciple of Charlie Parker and that band that that kind
of music. Yeah yeah, yeah, and that probably molded his style and
molded his approach to rock music. But you know what he played, it
he played He can play rock music. I mean, you hear him.
And when when I saw the first concert, the first tour without Charlie,
when we first moved here in Hyde Park in twenty twenty two, there were
certain songs where you say, damn, that's not him. Charlie should be
in this. You know you hear it, you know it when you don't
hear it. He's really yeah funny though, yeah, yep, he was.
He was like like Ringo he I mean, he had a four drum
set maybe five drums, okay, and he also had a phantom beat Charlie
wats did where he would almost hit the high happen, he wouldn't every other
beat sometimes, and that, to him left space. So that's why he
was able to be a dynamic drummer and live, you know, because that's
what they became, a live band, yet not playing anything like insanely complicated,
you know. And I think there's a nod to that what not to
play type stuff, you know what I mean, what not to play,
But you've got to be there at the same time. So he too,
is one of my favorites. I mean, you know, he's all right,
I'm gonna go to Richie now, Richie, well, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. Oh, I'm just gonna throw this one in and hopefully there
will be animal fingers inserted in mouths, but mouths mouths to identify a drummer
that just fits a band so perfectly. It's like, yeah, Dovetail Joints.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well he was them, Yeah,
he was that Tucker of de velovet Underground. Oh they're the terrible band.
That What a waste of vinyl those people are. Come on, come
on, Green Tucker was a great drummer for that band, and that band
was no slush. You just you just gotta get whipped, you gotta you
gotta do a revisit back on the Velvet Underground, Okay, And I keep
telling you. Boston was one of their favorite venues from New York. Boston
was one of the favorite venues, and in particular the Boston Tea Party was
a favorite place. Be there. That was a favorite place and thrown out
of there as it turns out. But yeah, okay, I just don't
like what's his name there? What's his name? Lou Reed? Yeah,
come on, freak, you know you had that one song and and now
we're supposed to, you know, kiss his ass because he's, you know,
Andy Waha's friend. I mean that that whole New York bullshit is I'm
not a snob at all. No one enjoys that music. Anyone pretends they
do, but they don't love it. Let's be real about it. I
can put I can put on that Banana album all see. What more do
you need to know? I did see that. I did see them at
their heyday. The exploding plastic, inevitable extraffag answer just happen to be the
right place at the right time. And before that he's cutting you off.
Can you save us, please? Matt? So do you know? I
mean, are you in love with development underground as much as one one is?
No? I did briefly get to meet lou Reid and he's and his
comrades, and again going back to the Rocky Horror Show. They came to
see The Rocky Horror Show and I could see them from where I was sat
playing. After about the first five minutes, they all fell asleep. Okay,
all right, I'm sure they're just the thing for me that spoiled it
is that when the show finished, they all woke up and they wobbled backstage
and said how great it was to the cast, you know, And that
sort of thing doesn't sit very well with me. So that's my abiding memory
of Blue Ray. That's terrible. I don't know interesting. I just think
that that that, you know, if you're going to be famous. You
should you be able to like tune your instrument and play your instrument and stuff
like that, you know, and I don't know. I don't know.
It's just just not for me. Okay, I'll tell you the first record
Nico did it for me. Oh wow, where did you grow up against?
I grew up in Cambridge. I grew up in that era. In
that period of time the bombs stopped dropping and then all of a sudden I
was born. Okay, Oh really, yeah you too. They were dropping
them on Cambridge. In Cambridge. Cambridge is for people to know, cambridg
is where have it is? Haved is not in Boston, It's and Cambridge.
He grew up in Charles Well, he's he's every time you hear him.
It's a different story, grandmother. But the Carl Cambridge now Cambridge Stan,
Cambridge Stan get it anyway? They yes, Well, because I'll tell
you what, the People's Republic of Cambridge. That's right, that's right.
And it's so phony. It's so freaking phony. Okay, because we went
down there, this is probably ten years ago, and everyone is like kind
of this enlightened yet rich hippie down there. We went into that bakery,
and we got the many donuts, we got many cupcakes, many cupcakes,
six dollars apiece, six dollars apiece those ten years ago, they're probably forty
dollars a piece. Now, who are you sell them to? You know
what I mean? Anyway, let's get back to drumas. Okay, he
got a job and they started making some money. Well that's what happened,
exactly what happened. So did Martin went on to RICHI, Rich, you
were going to go to you now your favorite drummer? Well, they rotate,
but I've been listening to so much deep Purple now I'd have to say,
I paste, oh woe. Yeah is amazing, and uh yeah,
I should have picked him. They got a new record out, don't they.
That's what started me getting into him, because they put out this,
uh put out a new video for for Smoke on the Water. And now
they put out a new record. They put out a video like forty years
later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's it's amazing.
It's all animated. Yeah, and tell us the whole story of the song.
And now they've now they're putting out their new album and great new song
called Portable Door and I just started listening to Deep Purple over again, and
Deep Purple, his cres roll, his speed like and any play to the
song. It's not just a technical drummer. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's
unbelievable. And I don't people don't really mention him. And I was like,
you know, that guy's play killer. He was on my list.
I was going to mention him. Really, I was going to segue into,
uh, Deep Purple is probably featured in Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
Oh, I'm going to talk about that movie. We're not going to
do. That's another show. That movie sucks. So now who's playing the
league about that? On the movie show? Yeah? Yeah, two movies.
So I can't I can't win for trying on this show. No,
you can't keep trying. Never say never want one. So who's the league
guitar player now on that? It's not Richie black Boy was with them years
ago, right, yeah, an Steve Morse for a long time and they
just got rid of him and there's some new guy. I don't even know
who he is. So, so what do you know about Richie Blackmore or
anything? Jimmy tag Basically, I think he's the one of the basis for
Nigel. Okay, so this is this is what this guy did. He's
famous for playing practical tricks or practical jokes on someone. This is Richie Blackmore,
guitar player for Deep Purple, and he's been around Richie Blackmore's rainbow and
stuff. He's one of these guys. And did he play for Ozz No,
No, I don't think so. That's always told me. I am
so. Anyway, he got mad at his like booking agent or something for
some reason get mad at this guy. So he got him drunk and they
put that stuff in your drink that makes you you know, like rufi rufie
put a roofie in his drink. Okay, he passed out. They stripped
them naked and put him on a ferry to Iceland, tied him up in
the front seat of his car naked and put his car on a ferry to
Iceland as a prepis who would do that? Richie black More? Yes,
but supposedly that's yeah, that's just thing practical Joe, but also weird thinking
about him. Really yeah, his seems like a guy. Well he's a
guy. Yep. He also was doing this this kind of cathedral tour.
This is when I was working with Maras, they would do these tours Mattin
maybe you know more of them than we do, where they would go to
these old kind of churches and do this kind of you know, middle aged
cantle and whatever that stuff is. Do you know what I mean? How
do I dream this? Now? You're right. It's called Blackmore's Nights and
it's with his wife. Oh yes, yes, I talked to his go
ahead. It's crazy. I don't understand it, Like they were going to
do another tour with him, and he was like, no, I'm busy
doing this. I talked to his man, his command, his p was
feeling their oats with the classical music, including uh, Emerson, Lake and
Palmer and that whole era. Yeah, it was just loaded with classical music.
I mean, right in your face, yes, delicious. It was
very good. I enjoyed a lot of that stuff. Emerson, Lake and
Palmer works is a great full It's a two album set and they all do.
They were all an exhibition. Yep, A really good. They were
good players. I mean Keith Emerson really was, and so was we're talking
about keyboard players now, but so was Rick Wakeman and Tony Banks and those
guys. They were kind of classic classantly trained, classically trained. They were
classically trained we call classically trained, you know, and then they just go
over to keyboards. And so Lowis was going to go to you, who's
your favorite drama? Lowis the guy from the Basity Rollers? What's his na
I honestly don't really have one. But someone I think is really talented as
Sheila e. Yeah from Oh, I don't know, is that different?
Like she's not she I don't know, she just can She's jumping around the
box and stuff. Yeah, but she does so many different Wow, she'll
e Lowis surprising us. All that's really good and interesting. Well, I
mean she's she's talented, So I would give her props for that. I
just don't you very on everything? Yeah, yeah, Hungry put some for
holy Is on that. You know. There's another guy, Prince, very
strange career prince, like you know, he he made his name like in
Minnesota and then some management company out in Los Angeles. Who this is all
these guys kind of get famous. They bring him out there and and he's
like, you know, a babe in the woods. He didn't know what's
going on. All these guys doing coke and stuff like that. So that's
why he built that big studio of his back in Minnesota, right what it's
called Purple Studios or whatever park. Yeah, and he'd do everything himself.
I mean, you know, one of he says, I could just do
this all myself, and he did. Really talented guy played guitar like crazy.
He never really played his guitar a lot. But gess if you see
that video of wa my guitar grintly weeps that they did at the George Harrison
memorial, unbelievable. I mean, this guy was unbelievable. But but he
hadn't He ended uh traffic tragically. Absolutely. But she came from a really
musical family. And do you know her godfather was Mylon Brando no Tito Puente.
Oh that's how she got the tim ballas someone listened too. And her
dad was a drummer, and and they just had a whole, I mean
their whole. She has uncles and brothers that were all in the musical world.
If you are so very talented, talk about the music and winded things.
So going back to Jeff Picaro for a second, the guys in Toto
is the drummers Jeff Picaro. The bass player was Mike Picaro, and the
keybod player was Steve Pacarro, right, and and then they had two other
guys and that made Toto. So there's these three brothers. Their father played
on like every TV show theme song in the sixties. He plays on the
Flintstones song Joe Picaro and everything everything, you know, And that's where they
got actually, that's where they got their break because a lot of people in
Toto, their families were in the biz, you know what i mean.
Yeah, their kids from Hollywood and they had connections, you know, but
they also could play like crazy. They I mean, when not to talk
about these guys a lot, but when Jeff Picarro and this other guy,
David Page, which where he was the other keyboard player for Toto, and
their brother and their other brother, Steve Picaro, they recorded with Boss Gigs,
the Boss Keggs album, and then on weekend they'd come home and play
high school dances with you know, the other guys. And they were playing
high school dances when they were when they were we quit with Steely Dan.
Okay. They were so young, is what I'm saying. And they were
just great musicians that happened to have a lot of connections, you know,
so yes, thus total and toto in Japan means toilet. All right,
why don't we do this? Should we take a commercial break now and add
all this? Why don't we do that? Why don't we take a commercial
break now? And when we come back? I want to ask Martin about
when he met Elton John. You turned down being in Elton John's band?
Correct, Well, okay, I hang out. Well, we'll get to
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This is mc maloney. What a show we have for you tonight. You
know who co conspirators girls, he's here across the puddle, our good friend
Martin Fitzgibbon. How about that across Now you're going to get all the fan
mail. How are you, Martin? I'm good, I'm good. Thank
you guys here Martin was the original drupper Let's move a lot for the Rocky
Horror Picture Show and then went on from there. So we're gonna get back
to you in a second. Also with us girls, don't be disappointed.
The very famous one one also here from across the puddle. Hello, this
is one one. Hello, boys and girls and all ships at sea.
You're listening to the show on pirate Radio. Maybe whose but welcome to the
show and we love to have you. Do they still have that? I
listened to this on BBC Sounds Oh yeah, okay, happen. But there's
actually a lot of good content on British radio these days. It's not like
back in the old days where I had to have a short wave radio to
listen to what was coming out of Liverpool. I mean seriously, a short
wave as big, big as Zenith shortwave nice stuff to my uncle, I
tune it in and going, oh wow, it's the Kinks all day and
all the night, Top of the Pop. No, it couldn't be Top
of the Pops. That's the BBC thing. But the BBC used to pirate
radio with you know, but do they still have that? Is that pirate
Caroline? Yeah? Still out there Radio Caroline. So that we should explain
the BBC is a British broadcasting again, and the gunman kind of owns the
radio over there, and they used to sense the stuff they wouldn't have day
in the life on they had. They wouldn't let them play, wouldn't let
some Stone songs on because of what they considered bad content. But there were
these pilot pirate ships that were you know, basically anchor off of England,
so many miles off so that they didn't get busted, and they and they
played rock music right not the this still did. That's crazy man anyway.
Yeah, also that that was a good time. Yeah, oh yeah,
yeah. I was a kid kid growing up, Martin. I'm sorry,
what what Martin? And when I was a kid growing up there was something
called Radio Luxembourg. Yeah. That was the only music that played anything that
kids wanted to listen to really, and it used to be surprisingly given the
name, it used to be broadcast from Luxembourg and they're this huge, huge
mast. Yeah, because it was coming such a distance, it kind of
faded in and faded out, so you know, you you'd get sections of
the record and usually it was a bit of a game because when it started
to fade out, you kind of sing along and try and come back in
exactly in the right place. Yeah, and stuff like that. And then
the Pirate Radio Guys came along and that kind of revolutionized the BBC as well,
So I did a few gigs with the DJs used to come over to
the Mainland occasionally and do some shows, and I did a few gigs for
those guys back in the day, but they all ended up working for the
BBC, which the BBC used to put out a radio content which was still
pretty lame really in my opinion, or at least it was, you know,
and there was something exciting about listening to the Pirate Guys because it was
you know, slightly naughty. Illegal, yes, because it was illegal,
Yes, so we enjoyed that. But the BBC, and also with us
is our good friend rich Kennedy and for Laa Dell, Rich, do we
introduce you? No you didn't, would you introduce you? Also with us
in the studio with the very lowly Lewis Lane happy to be Richie's system,
But that makes no difference. Are lowis just dandy? Okay? One one
that I introduced him? Yes, yes she did, she did, and
then Martin was telling us about the pirate ships. So so, but the
BBC, in a way, as I understand it, they would they as
I said, they would sense of stuff. They wouldn't let Day in the
Life on because they said, I get you know, it seems like I'm
getting high or whatever. Right. But they also brought the Beatles in.
They did those albums the Beatles at the BBC. They would play live Beatles
shows. So the BBC, so they must have been somewhat hip if you
know what I mean? Right wrong, Well, they had to be dragged
in, kicking and screaming to be hip. I yeah, yeah, I
know, but still you mean the BBC had to be yeah yeah, It's
like I don't know how how it would be like watching Channel two here in
Boston and going there for your music. It's just like dull intellectuals in a
fish called Wanda with John clice We're not John Clicee the other morning Python guy.
Excuse me, know what's wrong with you? People? Get your bloody
polite? Ain't that Tru's that's what's going on. If my wife is British,
that's she is wicked, bloody polate. She's only British by birth,
but you know she's British nonetheless. And it's difficult to explain to people what
the BBC. I mean to try and give you an idea how crusty the
institution was that when it was just a radio thing. I didn't have any
TV. The radio presenters used to stress up in suit and time even though
they were on the radio. We should do that. That's British except the
colleagues. That's fun. They have a great history though that that documentary about
the BBC how it started, it's just a gives me goosebumps. Because I
love radio. I love I love being in radio. I love I love
working on radios. That's what I did in the Navy, and that's what
I did. I earned my stripes. Before I came an IT guy,
love radio and always interested in the skip and how radio way, especially AM
propagates through the off the ionosphere depending on the clouds. And and then we
lived on the coast and f M. I would listen to stations from the
Cape Cape cod because FM propagates really good over water, straight shot, because
FM is like line of sight. Yeah. Yeah, you can't get it
in tunnels, right, yeahh well, you know up in when we were
up in upstate New York, in Albany and York, we could pick up
radio stations from Chicago, like yeah, like they're right down the street,
you know, because I guess there was kind of a lot, you know,
kind of flat all the way to Chicago, and you would switch on.
I had my cable, you know, fixed ones, and I had
an old VCR and the guy said, how many channels do you watch on
this? And I said, I know all the channels. This is way
way back. He says, hey, flip the switch. And I flipped
it and I got an entire Chicago station's TV you know, the weather,
the news, their their comedies there. Yeah, it was funny. Just
with a little flick of the switch, you know so yeah, anyway,
those signals are all around us, you know, I know that someone said
once Radio Moscow is around us right now. If you had the writing antenna
to pick it up, you would hear it. You know, it's not
out there, it's everywhere. But now everything's streaming now wall yeah back then
yeah right yep. And then all this stuff also goes off from the earth
and it's been traveling, you know for all these years. So someone else
there's going to hear you know, how do do to you something? Anyway,
nobody's going to hear Winston Churchill's speech or something like that as if it
was right right off the press. Yes, wait a minute, that was
uh. You know, supposedly there's a radio in an old rif bass that
still you know, it picks up like stuff from the forties and stuff,
and you know, people hear churchill speech on it and they unplug it and
they can still hear it and all that kind of stuff. England is a
strange place. You know, we said this many times. There's so many
myths and stuff because it's such an old place. You know, all this
stuff kind of piles up ghost stories and different creatures and stuff like that so
much Roman history, Viking history, I'm always bumping into Henry the a stuff.
You know what I did not know. I thought Herman's Hermits that created
the song I'm Henry the Eighth. I didn't know that they were singing that
in World War One and the trenches. I did not know that. I
know that. Okay, did they know that that song is? Oh?
I thought there was a yeah, the clever so abits m I'm Henry the
Eighth, I am, but well, you know they were. I was
in researching these trivia questions from earlier on the show. I started quote by
Andrew Luke Oman, who was the Rolling Stones mandra and worked for the Beatles
for a while for Brian Epstein, and he said, you know when the
when the Beatles looked over their shoulder, they weren't really looking at the Rolling
Stones, believe it or not, they were looking at Herman's Hermits to overtake.
Yeah, because they were slightly younger than the Beatles, you know what
I mean. I mean, the Beadles just have like thirteen year old girls
screaming at him. These guys that the ten year old girls screaming and they'll
stay with you so you know, but they didn't have the musical pals,
you know. But yeah, yeah, that's funny that they actually thought the
Herman's Hermits might you know, will be there. Yeah. Them. And
then Dave Clack five, which is funny. Dave Clack five played on Ed
Sullivan more than any other rock band. Don't think about that for a second.
And Dave Clake used to play I mean they'd played live. They were
terrible, but you know, and he just used to boom boom boom pummy.
Is funny how he drivened. But bits and pieces, this is the
drum work on that one. Yeah, bits and pizza. Yeah, I
remember that one. So best song was a ballad called because because he just
come to my eyes in that song. I love that song. Mike Smith,
the keyboard play you know what happened to him? We talked about him,
Martin. Do you know what happened to Mike Smith, the keyboard player
of Dave Clack five, No, go on tell me. So they were
all still friends and they all made money, especially Dave, and they'd get
together every once in a while and so on. So Mike Smith was he
lived in I think in Spain with his wife and he lived in a gated
community, let's say, and he was out one night. This is a
terrible story. Well, you know, drinking, forgot the combination to the
gate, went over the wall and fell and broke his spine. And what
is that, Rich? Is that a piccani? What is that that?
Get that cat out of it? Is that a camarin? That's what I
meant. That's what I meant, Pomeranian, I get those two mixed.
Anything that looks like one one dumps on our awful story. So, yeah,
he fell off a wall and it was paralyzed for the rest of his
life. Geez, really yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'll tell you
another story. How about this? Now? It turns out that the cousin
of Lois and Rich, one of them played drums for Flock of Seagulls for
a while, right correct, right A j His name is good guy and
he wouldn't us yes, And and your other brother played for the other his
brother played for the Rascals, right, So anyway, so the original Flock
of Seagulls, and I know this only because they saw like a retrospective of
them. Okay, there were two brothers, the drummer and the and the
guy with the haircut, right, and the guy with the haircut kind of
ran things. Okay, well if you know who I mean, you know
what I mean, he had you know so. And then the guitar player
was a fifteen year old kid when they hit all right, and he automatically
went nuts. I mean literally went into a mentalence institution at some point.
And I think it's probably drugly lad when those uh, and then the two
other guys, you know, Mike's score was the lead singer. He kind
of kept the band going with a j and people like that. And his
brother was working in a warehouse that they did this VH one retrospective and these
guys are like, yeah, we're still we're going to get back together,
We're going to do an album, and you know, and he's working in
a warehouse. Sorry, So they go to the base player. The bass
player married some French princess, some French socialite, and he lived in like
one of these huge, huge mansions and had you know, servants and stuff
like that. So it does work out, kids, one out of every
four times. Okay, yeah, I think I play the bass. Those
kinds of things can happen if you're in Europe. Great Britain, France.
You know, you have opportunities, weird opportunities like that, Okay, more
so than you would if you were in the United States. Martin's raising his
sand mine. Did you marry a French social? Lie? Tried, but
they were all taken. I think you know it was their loss in my
opinion. Okay, yeah, okay, So listen, we're coming to the
end of the show, so please Martin tell us how you turned down Elton
John joining Elton John's band. Well, it sounds it sounds much more dramatic
than is the truth. Elton John's real name is, of course Regg Dwight,
and he grew up around the corner from my cousin. My cousin,
my auntie and uncle lived around the corner and we used to visit them on
a fairly regular basis. And I went there one day and this little pudgy
guy was there with glasses and they said, oh, you know, I
don't know how old he would have been, ten or eleven or something.
And my auntie said, oh, you know, this is this is reg
He plays piano and he's he's brilliant, and she said, and Martin plays
drums, so why don't you guys get together the group? And I kind
of looked at him and I thought, well, you know, with a
name like reg and looking like that, he ain't never going to go perfect.
Well, okay, it wasn't my best career move. And he also
he turned up. Actually i've never met him since, and I would love
to, because he turned out. One day there was an escape budgery guard
and he took it home to his mum, and his mom said, his
mum was pretty fierce lady, and she said, you're not keeping it go,
let it go. And he said, you know, I can't do
that. It will die, because they do die if they're out in the
wild. So he took it round to my auntie and uncle said, will
you take this this budgery gar, in which they did, what is that
budgery gar? It's it's a bird, like a little canary. Sure yea.
So they called it reg and and Rege lived for years and years and
years. So I always figured if I ever met Elton John, I'd say,
do you remember that little canary story? We have? So there you
go. Interesting story, but that is interesting, but when you bring animals
into it, it always enhances the doesn't. I'm going to bring a chicken
parmesan into this discussion right after we get off the Yeah, how about that?
So you know what I've been saving the Hedgehogs a bobbe An Instagram thing,
a TikTok with the Hedgehogs. We Matt Maley is on with us every
once in a while. He might have been on last time. And he
used to play bass for the Countain Crows and so he had a he had
a day off and he went to that Tower Records in l A Okay,
remember that famous place. It's not closed down. And he's walking around in
there and he said, you know, he noticed this guy's behind him and
is like this big, big muscle bound guy kind of moving him along.
And it was it was Elton John's bodyguard and and he and Elton John had
him carrying a basket and say take that, take that, take that,
take that. And so Matt was, who's a uh. He loves like
Indian music. He was like the George Harrison of the Counting Crows. He
went and he got this kind of Indian music that he really liked. This
is CDs. As he was checking out, he went over and he says,
you know, I love your music. I want you to you know,
this is my favorite music. I want to give it to you.
He says. It's just nice, nice guy, thanks a lot, very
sincere counting crows blah blah blah. You know he was he was an okay
guy, you know, which is always important to me. Yeah. Yeah,
down the earth when you're like a mega mega, mega freaking rock star
is good. So anyway, well, why do we do this? We
have to say goodbye and it's switch. He isn't here to put the train
crash vision image up, so we're gonna have to imagine the train crashing into
the station. Martin. Thank you very much. We're gonna clap you waft
there, my friend, Thank you very much. Thank you guys, thank
you very much. Pleasure to be here. Now, let us know if
I five, I five, or I six contacts you. Okay, you're
close by. Thank you very much. Now come on real soon again.
Okay, and thank you. We appreciate it. Now you've written a book,
what's your plug? Your book there, my friend, it's called My
Life in Rocky Horror, which is it's about my life and Rocky Horror.
Clusing the time named Thank you took me awhile to come up with it.
But is it Is it a recent release? Yeah, it was released in
November twenty three. Okay on Amazon. So it's on Amazon. It's on
Amazon. Yeah, it's only ars. Okay, it's the title one more
time. The title it is My Life and Rocky. It's actually called behind
the Curtain. There's a story behind that we don't have time to go into.
So Behind the Curtain my Life and Rocky horror. Okay, nice,
yeah by Martain Fitz. That's great. Join us again soon, right,
thank you, Martin, Thank you, Martin, Richie, thank you for
Richie rich Kennedy, thank you, thank you. And he can pluck?
Was that a cat? Was that a cat that you brought it in front
of the camera just a little while, Molly the dogs. They don't have
a cat. It looks like a cat. Do you have anything to plug
there? My friend? Yes, his businesses. Let's hear it. Wow,
well, I mean well being for I'll come by for drink. I
don't want to cover sixty two. It sounds like you get drunk on it.
But it's not an alcoholic, right, it's not an alcoholic. Yeah,
you don't get drunk on it, you get a you get what you
would call it late a medium buzz okay, just a nice kind of calm
down. Get a happiness it's happiness buzz. Yeah, you make believe it's
alcoholic, and then if you go right, you feel a nice, nice,
nice mellow feeling. You drive home. Yeah, yeah, you have
good dreams and then you wake up with no hangover. Yeah. I want
to go up to the girls to say, hey, buy you a cava.
Yes, if there were girls that came in for sure, Oh wow,
pretty much, dude, it's pretty much. It's bad man. Thank
you Richie. But it's the original, the O G the og right,
Lois, Thank you Lois for joining us, and thank you for having me.
It was always fun to listen to everybody talk about music. Oh,
including everyone. Thank you, Thank you, Lois. We appreciate it.
One one. Thank you. You're welcome. Pleasures Allline, glad to be
here, in fact, glad to be anywhere You've got it, and we
will see you every very soon. Let me do the plugs hang on.
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the cabin's fire across the smoky sky and the castle's crumble and the angels cry
across my heart. Because it's true. I'm nothing with that you across my
heart. That is true. I'm nothing with the hat, with the g
I don't need no reason, I don't need no vision. I'm just gonna
stand here, me my own decision. I'm gonna listen to the rhythm of
my Sometimes I'm nothing at all. You're always there when I call, You
always catch me when never a fall across my heart, because it's true.
I'm nothing with that you across my heart. Is true. I'm nothing with
that without your Sometimes I'm nothing at all. You're always when I come,
You always catch me whenever I am fall cross my heart because it's true.
I'm nothing with that you cross my heart. Because it's true. I'm nothing
with that you cross my heart. But it's true. I'm nothing with that
you cross my heart because it's true. I'm nothing with that without you.
The feel can you hear mad? The feel? The feel can you hear
mad, the me up, thet f up? Can you hear bad?
Feel me up? Can you hear bad? Feel there? My soul?
So he somebody trible my mother? If I dye somebody trible, man rumble
there I die? You know that fu so have of my school that bakes
me mom. Someone tellble mamaca if my di somebody trible, mamacle that I
mean mees moos moos of the og my soul o the b so someone can
tell my bumble it's I die. Some of them tell my combo that I
trem to sit in this place where time is time but givens a never chime
in time to a little in days gone by, if I could catch one
one fi ye. It was on the way on the road to tread it
now drowned out of house, treating basic its trees of God, the stories
though the god has water. Once I said sail to catch us stuff the
feel it was you. It was on no way on the road, oh
to treat now don't know. I'm strong in no. I was treating want
this dark place so it's back and went to light to come in the back.
Stop this dark place. It's no inside there's no retreat. Sometime that's
time. It's got a no way. It don't no wrong to treat.
And now my hotrong hose treating. I don't know. I was traveling.
Don't have no house straight. I'll go with him. Shout like that s
my DA's car. True stop, I don't be a struck. It was
on the back on the road three day start street. True, no struck, no