WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.680 All right. I know that we promised you an end of the week bonus 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:10.000 Barbenheimer podcast between Mack and I where I see Barbie maxis Oppenheimer. But things 3 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:14.119 fell through, much like things are falling through Mac right now because he's got 4 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:18.320 the rhea. So I have go ahead, and I've called in a backup. 5 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:22.199 I have called in a friend to step in here to talk Barbie with 6 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:27.480 me, because this fella has also seen Barbie, and that is DJ Bean. 7 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:30.679 Hi Hi Hi, Hi, Hi? What up? Oh? I 8 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:34.039 saw that? You are? You just saw Barbie? Correct? I just 9 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:39.679 saw Barbie and you are bouncing off the wall with excitement. I mean you're 10 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:43.880 gonna be bouncing off the wall with something after seeing that like that is we'll 11 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:48.280 talk about it. She she took a swing. There's a lot of swings 12 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:53.039 in it, massive swings, because there's a lot of different things in the 13 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:57.840 movie, which is why are we jumping right into it. Let's go ahead 14 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.880 and jump right into this bar be rated pg. Thirteen. It is a 15 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:04.200 tick under two hours. It feels a little longer than that. Feels longer. 16 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:08.799 I will say that, especially in the third act. And I actually 17 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:15.079 like what they did in the third act with the Ken's but also if it's 18 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:18.719 within the movie, I don't necessarily need it. Like I love how weird 19 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:23.159 it is and how a lot of the movie is very straightforward, but then 20 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:26.879 a lot of it is very cartoonish and silly. Yeah, I mean, 21 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.319 and I so this isn't a great movie. I don't think. No, 22 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:36.519 No, I'm very glad that she made it. And I know I also 23 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:38.959 have to give no a bomb back credit. But I'm like, this was 24 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.400 Greti Grewig being like, you're giving me a Barbie movie, all right, 25 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:49.599 like you are giving Superman, Walter White whatever, the person with like with 26 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.799 the ability to do whatever the fuck they want, they put their mind to 27 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:56.640 it. Yeah, you're giving me a Barbie movie. All right. I'm 28 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:00.519 gonna give you a freaking Barbie movie. And she went insane with it, 29 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:05.280 and it wasn't good, but I love that she went insane with it. 30 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:09.199 That the Taylor Swift album that I celebrate most is Reputation, which I understand 31 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:14.639 is not a great album, but she tried. She like she could have 32 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.120 done the down the middle, boring Taylor Swift thing that she does a lot, 33 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:20.680 but she was like, you know what, I want to find out 34 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:23.520 if I'm a rapper, and I was like, yeah, like you're not, 35 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:27.120 but good for you for trying. And this takes a lot of swings. 36 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:31.319 Uh. I agree with you that there was a lot of it that 37 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:36.159 you're like, you know what not in this movie, but it's cool you're 38 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:40.280 doing this. There's a lot of it that feels like the twelve fifty five 39 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:46.319 sketch on SNL where they're just throwing something up against the wall and it's either 40 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:50.680 really funny or it doesn't stick at all, and you say, okay, 41 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:54.680 we'll watch next week. I guess right right. It's the It's the the 42 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:59.759 Tim Robinson slot back pretty much. Yeah, yeah, SNL when they were 43 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:01.800 like, okay, you want to try to do your weird thing. Maybe 44 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:07.400 here's where I would cut. By the way, Yes, I'm just getting 45 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:12.000 rid of La, and I'm getting rid of the mother and the daughter. 46 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.639 I'm getting rid of Will Farrell and all the Mattel executives. Yeah, this, 47 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:21.080 I totally agree that it's two hours. That feels longer than two hours. 48 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.240 It feel it feels like two and a half to forty. You know 49 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:27.719 what's weird though, is that you mentioned both of those things and I didn't 50 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:31.000 necessarily dislike Will Farrell in this movie. I thought that he was fun and 51 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:36.520 it's it harkens back to like mid two thousands Will Farrell being very, very 52 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:39.199 silly, and also I like, I mean, we're kind of spoiling here, 53 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:45.680 but I like the twist of the mother being the one and why then 54 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:50.240 that's why Barbie has to come there, and it's her losing grasp of her 55 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:54.199 daughter and wanting to connect with her again with this doll. But they don't 56 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:59.520 necessarily get into that. They don't explore that at all. They just bring 57 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:00.639 it in and then they say, all right, now you get off to 58 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.000 the side. Barbie's gonna cry for a while. Totally. They do so 59 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:10.599 many things at sixty percent, and that I get it, Like this is 60 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:15.280 a druggy movie. This is and I don't know if drugs were used to 61 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:16.800 make this movie, but it is a druggy movie. And that it's like, 62 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:18.560 okay, well we're here, all right now, all right, now, 63 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.680 Ken has a big song. Now this is actually about the fragility of 64 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.600 man. Okay, no, actually it's about the pressure it's put on. 65 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:30.680 Like I feel like they kept opening up more boxes before they cleaned, before 66 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.639 they closed any of them, and a lot of the box that they opened. 67 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:38.279 I was like, yo, you know that now as a result of 68 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:43.240 this, if you're going to make this about like f the patriarchy, which 69 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.560 I'm if you've listened to my podcast, you know I'm generally cool with, 70 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:50.360 then you also have to tie in the like, Okay, well this is 71 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:55.720 how I've been treating Ken because we live in the world where we're in charge. 72 00:04:55.920 --> 00:05:00.560 And I actually do like they only spent a second on that being like, 73 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:02.720 hey, you know what, I wasn't totally cool to you this whole 74 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:04.839 time, like I should have given you the time to day, etc. 75 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:10.199 Etc. But I was like, every new twenty minutes that they added, 76 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:14.360 I felt like was going to cause them to then add another twenty and twenty 77 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:17.720 and twenty because they kept opening up these boxes and doing them in very un 78 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:23.040 I understand, it's PG thirteen, so really it's for like twelve year olds, 79 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:27.120 I know, but they also it feels like they kind of middled what 80 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:30.279 this movie could have been, because if they had gone with an R rating, 81 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.879 it could have been a lot funnier because I had a lot of ha 82 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:38.000 moments in this Ken was pretty funny Ryan Gosling as Ken is pretty funny in 83 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.240 this movie. But there's so many moments you're like, Okay, there's a 84 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:45.319 better joke here, yes, yeah, oh yeah, I'm so glad. 85 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:47.040 I was afraid that you were gonna be like, what do you talk because 86 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.959 I was gonna say I laughed throughout the movie, but I laughed like, 87 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:55.959 no, it was hat but not ha ha exactly. I think they were 88 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:01.240 like two two four ha has, and some of them were great. Some 89 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:06.600 of them got a little like Adam mckaye, but a lot of them could 90 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:10.959 have been like a lot of the rest of them. And I'm talking like 91 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:15.759 seriously, ninety percent of the jokes could have either been punched up or exactly 92 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:21.279 either punched up to be funnier or just stripped a little bit. And again, 93 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:29.160 I know that maybe they're shooting for a younger audience. It's quite one 94 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:33.639 oh one in conveying its messages, Like at one point when and this is 95 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:38.519 gonna be spoilish, but I think we've already decided this is pretty much just 96 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.160 a spoiler podcast. Sorry, I know it's a this is a reaction just 97 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:46.680 because after I saw it too, I had so many like and just before 98 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:49.480 you get to your point. There was a part of this movie where I 99 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:55.519 was so confused to why Barbie out of nowhere was crying faced out on the 100 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:59.199 floor, and she's like, I'm ugly, Well, how did we get 101 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:04.480 to that? Because America Ferrera felt ugly. Yeah, there were a lot 102 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:08.879 of how did we get to that? So quickly? We're like, logically, 103 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:13.879 if you're told I'm seeing a movie where Barbie's having an existential crisis, 104 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.600 you understand that there's going to be a part where Barbie's gonna be lying face 105 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:20.839 down, But there isn't much of a set up to it, and it 106 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:28.560 just jumps. It makes choices in like crawling from one spot to another, 107 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:32.560 but they're two insignificant spots and then leaping to a huge thing like oh, 108 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:38.240 like Barbie's in actual trouble now. And it went from like who am I? 109 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:44.720 To like shit gets dire real quick. Yeah. I think that a 110 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:48.680 lot of it is really really, really heavy handed, and just knowing Greta 111 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:58.279 Gerwig films and knowing that she often explores like feminist themes in less it just 112 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:03.600 in like she's a fucking awesome filmmaker. Just yes, she does it in 113 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:09.079 great ways, and she works things in without Like at one point when America 114 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:15.000 Ferrera started to do the um, the unbrainwashing, the yes yes. When 115 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.480 she first started doing that, I thought that it was mocking, like a 116 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.240 certain type of feminist and I was like, okay, don't be mean. 117 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:28.199 And then I was like, oh no, like they actually are being that 118 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.759 heavy hand. That was so loud too, that was such a loud Well 119 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.320 first off, I said, it was like the Twitter. I thought it 120 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.399 was mocking like the Twitter. Like, but you said, everything in this 121 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.039 movie is like sixty percent of what it could be, Like there's a lot 122 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.519 of small ideas that just don't pay off, and that part right there, 123 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.960 or even like every part, every part is sixty percent, but everything is 124 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:52.759 turned up to eleven. So yeah, while while they are giving you these 125 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:58.000 like like decent jokes, they're just slamming them in your face. Yeah, 126 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:03.480 yeah, it's um. I was kind of thinking of Boas Afraid while watching 127 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:09.720 this movie. I was like, the this year has given me two drug 128 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.480 movies that are done in completely different ways. And in the case of Boa 129 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.720 Is Afraid, it's just like, oh yeah, we're gonna keep pushing it. 130 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:18.799 We're gonna keep pushing it. We're gonna stretch it out further, We're 131 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.039 gonna get weirder, We're gonna get weird, or we're gonna get weirder. 132 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.039 But in the case of Barbie, a lot of it's things it was doing. 133 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.000 I was like, hey, wait, wait, say I like it 134 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:35.440 here, like a lot of the Barbie Land stuff, the the the I'm 135 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.279 trying to think of how to put it, Like the bizarro spin on Dude's 136 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.039 Rock. Yes, I thought it was so funny, and I was like, 137 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:48.039 like, let's hang out here for a second and explore, like while 138 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:54.960 they continue to get their jokes off, explore the ramifications of a world in 139 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.480 which it's just dudes rock like that was. That was really funny. Out 140 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:05.480 That was like a small stretch where I thought that Ryan Gosling was anything special. 141 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.519 Otherwise throughout the movie, I really kind of thought he was replacement level. 142 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.320 I thought that he was a Scot. Was just gonna say I think 143 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:13.639 almost everyone, and I mean I might have liked Gosling a little bit more 144 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:20.720 than you. I think that mid Go Robbie. Oh. I thought this 145 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:28.519 after being like just kidding, but also so I thought that those two might 146 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.120 have been exactly what they wanted for their roles. But then it's like, 147 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:37.919 Michael Sarah is Michael Sarah in this movie, but all the cameo barbies, 148 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:43.480 all of the random Ken's, they could just be anybody playing those roles. 149 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:48.519 Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. And given some of the casting 150 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:54.759 choices, like for me, you can't put Issa Ray in this movie as 151 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:58.399 the president and give her like three lines. I was just like waiting. 152 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.840 I was like, all right, so does does Ray make it to la 153 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.679 does she save the day? Here? Like when and there there is like 154 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:11.399 one moment whereas Rays like, yeah, we figured you all out and everything. 155 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.960 I'm like, at least they gave her that line. I was just 156 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:18.120 distracted by the lack of of Esa in this movie because I thought there was 157 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.360 a lot more, especially like if you're going for this is supposed to be 158 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:24.080 a comedy, I believe she's one of the funnier people in the movie. 159 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:31.879 I do have to shout out the reduced the reduced frequency with which we get 160 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.000 Kate McKinnon these days. Yeah, I think works. I I got massive 161 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:39.960 Kate McKinnon fatigue, as did all of America, and I thought that she 162 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.679 was good in I thought she was really good in Super Pets, and I 163 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.440 thought that she was really good in this. I thought that she was really 164 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:50.320 good in the first scene that she was in, and then I didn't need 165 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:56.120 to go back to her. That could be Kate McKinnon fatigue PTSD, like 166 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:58.840 Kate McKinnon A bunch again. I'm like, oh, I guess I'm back 167 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:00.879 in with Kate McKinnon. They're like, oh no, no, maybe we 168 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:03.000 don't want to do this that much. But she was really good as weird 169 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.159 Barbie. I actually did really like that first scene with her. It wasn't 170 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.759 until they were in La that I was like, oh, this isn't a 171 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.679 very good movie. But also I do appreciate the fact that they only spent 172 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:20.120 was it, fifteen minutes in La. So I crushingly dropped my phone during 173 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.879 the movie and it was in the seat. But I don't go on my 174 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.639 phone during the movie unless I need to, like really really jot something down. 175 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.279 But I am a constant time checker because I do like to know, 176 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.720 like, all right, it took because the third act. Because I agree 177 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:39.320 with your earlier point about like once the third act started cooking, you're like, 178 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:41.919 all right, now this is the meat of the movie. But I 179 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:46.679 was like, yeah, but but where are we like time wise into the 180 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:50.759 movie anyway, they didn't spend too much time in LA. But I thought 181 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:56.799 that it was like maybe could have been eight great minutes and was maybe more 182 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:01.039 like fifteen or twenty, just because everything in that scene is things that have 183 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.360 been done before. That's the most run of the mill stuff in the movie. 184 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.639 Yeah, I mean, especially where they chose to shoot the stuff in 185 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:11.960 LA with it being on is that what is that the Santa Monica pear or 186 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:16.840 is that the well where I go roll blading there every time I go? 187 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:18.600 But I still couldn't tell you what it is, but that that when you 188 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:24.000 think La and Beach, that one place. Also not to stand up for 189 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:31.799 modern Americans because we're quite awful people, but very unrealistic that they would be 190 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.919 that overtly cat called. It's an eighties movie caricature, That's all it is, 191 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:41.919 right, because I was like, somebody in that group of I mean 192 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.679 one point, somebody sexually assaults her, yes, and then she punches a 193 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:50.399 guy in the face and she gets in trouble for it, right, and 194 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:56.120 then she hits them and goes to jail and I was like, I mean, 195 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:58.759 again, we're we're kind of constantly in a bad place. But I 196 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:01.720 was like, I feel like some of the stuff that's going on, even 197 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:05.240 just verbally with even with that when they were talking to Ken, Yeah, 198 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.879 I was like, somebody speaks up and is like, hey, are you 199 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:13.039 okay? What's going on here? There's no way, there's no way there 200 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.759 would be that lawless of society. And also we are shooting on this movie 201 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.639 maybe more than we should. I don't think it's a terrible movie per se. 202 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:24.399 And there are parts that I do like, and I do like the 203 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:30.039 overall message of don't let other people decide what your identity is, and that's 204 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.480 kind of the point by the end, But then I hate as soon as 205 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.000 we decide, like like you know, that's where we get to the final 206 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.679 part of the movie. Is Barbie wanting to be real? Yeah. The 207 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:48.200 the stuff on in that like studio whatever that's set is where everything where they're 208 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.080 kind of Apple commercial or their their Mac versus PC. Yeah, that I 209 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:58.600 that was making me once again think boy is afraid? You know. I 210 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.240 was like, so now where in this completely different thing and now it's teaching 211 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:07.000 you I'm not going to completely spoil it, but some of the questions she's 212 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:16.600 asking are some general existential questions and then some like logistical and borderline biological questions 213 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.080 that I was like, what really is this movie? I mean, we 214 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:26.039 also go from this like big stylized pink world to just we're gonna end it 215 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:31.000 with this white it's just white and plain. Yeah, so I did assume 216 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:39.120 that was a radical choice on Greta's part, and I do agree with you. 217 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.200 It is worth noting that I think that we're maybe both exploring our agreement 218 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.960 that this isn't a very good movie more so than being like, this movie 219 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.320 was terrible. I think this I clocked it like a C minus, which 220 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.480 there are C minus movies that I love. I don't think I love this 221 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:00.000 movie. But I, as I said off the top, I do really 222 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:06.159 respect that Greta Gerwig decided to get as crazy as possible with this. I 223 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.200 have it had about like thirty hot dogs, twenty nine hot dogs. It 224 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:15.559 isn't it isn't great. It's it's definitely good. It's definitely worth watching. 225 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.279 You obviously want to be a part of the zeit guys, do you want 226 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.279 to talk this This movie is gonna make one hundred and ten hundred and twenty 227 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.720 million in its first weekend, which who would have thought that a Barbie movie 228 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:29.639 was gonna do that? And I think expectations also might have gotten to us 229 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:34.879 DJ. Yes, I think that we got into this um like dueling aces 230 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:41.000 thing with Oppenheimer. And I mean you could say that maybe one hurts the 231 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.559 other, but I don't really think so. I think that both are going 232 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:48.519 to crush as a result of all this buzz like what's gonna do better this 233 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:53.399 or that? Like I is gonna be my uh second, I made some 234 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.840 weird pop music reference earlier already forget what it was, but Taylor Swift, 235 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:00.720 Oh the Taylor Swift thing, all right, Like this is gonna be like 236 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:04.920 Backstreet Boys and in sync, Like oh no, like Backstreet Boys putting on 237 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:08.720 an album three months after in sync Bola. It's like, yeah, what's 238 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.039 gonna happen is everybody's going to buy all of them because they want to be 239 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:17.440 part of this battle. And this is like geist as you said, uh, 240 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:19.799 it's gonna do very well. As I was watching it, I was 241 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:22.960 like, this isn't gonna age well, just just generally, like in a 242 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.119 year people are gonna acknowledge it's a bad move. Word of mouth isn't gonna 243 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:30.160 slow it down, though, because even though you know we don't love it, 244 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.119 it also might not be a movie made for us. We might not 245 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.759 be the target audience here. But on Metacritic it is a must see eighty 246 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:44.240 one, which is fucking huge. Yeah. I last saw on Rotten Tomatoes 247 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:49.480 eighty nine, eighty nine. Obviously, this Rotten Tomatoes is just did they 248 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.559 think it was good or bad? Eighty nine. I'd give it a thumbs 249 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:56.839 up. I'd be a part of like the positive. I'd have a tough 250 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:02.440 time with that because at at C minus so sixty five is the thumbs down. 251 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:04.960 Oh okay, so i'd give yeah, So, I guess i'd give 252 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.440 it. You'd be on that bottom end. That's and that's how Rotten Tomatoes 253 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:12.720 gets you, right whoa okay? So, I mean, and that's why 254 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:17.400 I think we talked about Air. We were like, this is gonna be 255 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:21.279 a hundred on Rotten Tomatoes because no one's gonna dislike it so much. There's 256 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:25.240 so much in this movie that there is to like, well, Air not. 257 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.480 I mean, there is stuff in Barbie to like, but Air is 258 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:33.519 just totally it's just a consistent knew exactly what it wanted to do and didn't 259 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:38.759 take any of these big swings that Barbie did Barbie and Barbie didn't necessarily hit 260 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:44.480 any home runs. So it takes these big swings and it's still only hitting 261 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:48.559 singles, but it's not necessarily knocking anything out of the park. Yeah, 262 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:53.200 I mean, there were I'm trying to think the I'll just say there's a 263 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:59.559 commercial scene that I thought was laugh out loud funny. It was kind of 264 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:04.440 millennial fan service, I guess, but I still found it really funny, 265 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:11.039 and there were a few moments that I really did think like that isolated thing 266 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:17.240 was great, or that isolated joke was really funny. And typically most things 267 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:21.039 that I thought were great from it other than obviously, like you are right, 268 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:25.200 it becomes about identity and pick choosing your own destiny and everything like that. 269 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:29.119 But obviously there's a lot of like feminist themes that are i won't say 270 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:33.680 baked into it because they are just lathered right on top like you cannot miss 271 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:40.440 them. So obviously there's good messages in the film, but by and large, 272 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:45.519 the things that impressed me were like five jokes and them in the third 273 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:49.759 act just completely going out of their way and like, I'm not the biggest 274 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:53.160 fan of like the Ken Battle on the Beach, but when it turns into 275 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:57.200 this no, but when it turns into this weird musical number, I'm sitting 276 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:02.240 back going, Okay, what what are we doing here? I'm I'm interested 277 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:06.440 in this And that song wasn't good enough. That song wasn't good enough, 278 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:10.000 the duelipa song wasn't good enough. Like they all felt found in and I 279 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:15.519 so I did, yes exactly. I did like the opening Lizzo song and 280 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.200 how she flipped it. And that's like at the end of like the first 281 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:22.400 act, when Barbie started to like, you know, feel that things were 282 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:26.440 different they at least some fun with that. I thought that was going to 283 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.359 be more of a thing it was. I mean, again, without spoiling. 284 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:36.119 In comedy, there's a rule of a certain number, and that it 285 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.440 didn't get to that key to comedy is repetition. Repetition is the key to 286 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:44.559 comedy. The key to comedy is repetition. I love and this was in 287 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:48.839 the closing credits of the song spoilers, Uh I did love the Nicki Minaj 288 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:52.240 and Ice Spice song, just because I thought, I think the line it 289 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:59.960 girls and we ain't playing tag is like the best line from a song maybe 290 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:04.680 in world history. You see it's girls, but we're not playing tag. 291 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.799 When you tag somebody, you say you're it. They're saying no, no, 292 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:11.119 no, we're We're in fashion, is what we're saying when we're it. 293 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:17.680 Girls. Sorry for spoiling the movie there, that's what they mean by 294 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:19.880 it. That is the whole movie right there. Yeah, that they're not 295 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:22.680 playing tag. You find by the end of the movie that they're not playing 296 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:29.480 tag, like oh so like when they went to La Okay, I got 297 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.079 it. Yeah, they weren't playing tag at all in that movie. Um. 298 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:37.960 Yeah. The songs generally though, weren't good enough. A lipa in 299 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:42.680 general in this movie wasn't great. So weird the music and even her just 300 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:49.480 delivering the line of high Barbie so green it was weird and like maybe literally 301 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:57.079 but it just seemed like such a remote job that she was always she was 302 00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:00.319 never in the same shot as the rest of them. It's always often the 303 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:07.160 distance in the water spoilers saying hi Barbie. Like people are going to look 304 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:12.640 back on this movie and I don't recommend anybody do drugs, but I think 305 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.160 like, maybe this is a movie people will be like, oh, let's 306 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:21.960 do whatever our weapon of choices and watch Barbie, because otherwise, with the 307 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.640 clear head and just I coke in my hand, I was like, uh, 308 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.519 yis I watched it at So I was a brag. I was at 309 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:36.599 an influencer screening and I believe that I was. I might have been the 310 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:40.000 only guy there possibly, I think there are like two or three other guys 311 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:44.200 there. It was mainly a female audience, and walking out as people were 312 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:48.319 talking to the you know, the person that invited us there, and generally 313 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:51.480 you do say nicer things to them as you leave, but everyone's like, 314 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:53.160 I loved it. That was a great movie. That was so fun. 315 00:22:53.599 --> 00:23:02.079 And I'm curious if is it more just women enjoy this movie more or was 316 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:04.119 it you got swept up in being there and then as you're leaving you kind 317 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.960 of think it through. Because my first thought when I left first off was 318 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:14.559 I wish I saw Oppenheimer. But then my second thought was that was interesting. 319 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:17.559 I didn't think it was good. I didn't think it was bad, 320 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:21.000 but there were interesting parts to it. But I was never like, oh, 321 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:22.720 that was great, that was an amazing time. Ad by all, 322 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:29.119 I'll give it interesting. My tweet was it was ambitious and a mess. 323 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:33.599 Yeah, and that's it's not about. Like again, there's a lot of 324 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:42.000 good things that are messes. I like not following a blueprint and maybe herky 325 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:45.319 jerky direction. I like that in music, I like that in everything. 326 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:51.119 So but it's still a mess. It still is all over the place. 327 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.119 My audience, I would say, was if I had to guess, predominantly 328 00:23:56.200 --> 00:24:02.359 mail but and there was a lot of clapping, that's the worst. There 329 00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:08.200 was a projector malfunction, so the screen was just stuck for like ten fifteen, 330 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:14.720 twenty minutes, and once we realized something was wrong, somebody in the 331 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:18.000 audience said the world wasn't ready Paul the Gastanza perfect. Yeah. I was 332 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:23.759 like, yo, yeah, yeah, yeah, but like you just fucking 333 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:26.920 won. What a line. We're all gonna be jealousy you forever, but 334 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.200 truly, I mean you said people are gonna like want to be in on 335 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:36.079 the zeitgeist and everything. I felt bad for not being super excited for either 336 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:40.519 of these movies, but going into it today I was like, yo, 337 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:44.599 I am jazz for this movie and sitting down to it in that packed theater 338 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:48.480 with a bunch of people who were just hyped up. The theater projector breaks 339 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.720 and someone's like, yeah, that's what the bitch world eight ready for this? 340 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:53.279 I was like, fuck, yeah, that's who was Barbie Shit, 341 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:57.240 I'm here to experience this with all these people. Yeah, And I'm I'm 342 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:03.960 typically not a he huge like opening night guy or big packed theater guy. 343 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:11.319 I like to slouchin at two pm, like three days after it came out, 344 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.039 or maybe a screener that no one really cares about. I don't know. 345 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.200 I just like the I like the low stakes watches. But every now 346 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.000 and that, it's fun to get to a movie that feels like an event. 347 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:26.599 And if you see this movie on opening weekend, it is going to 348 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:29.359 feel like an event. So that's a plus in and of itself. Yeah. 349 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:32.440 And then if I'm just comparing it to comedies on the year, because 350 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:36.279 this is a comedy, right, I think it has to be. Yeah. 351 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.799 I mean I haven't, especially if we're looking at laughs at home run 352 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:42.359 laughs. Have you seen joy Ride yet? No? So both the movies 353 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:47.640 I've seen this year, joy Ride is definitely has more of the home run 354 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.400 laughs. I think it actually has a little more heart at the end of 355 00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:52.880 the movie as well. Also, when I saw that movie, the projector 356 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:57.160 that I was there also, so WHOA, So I don't know what's happening 357 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:02.119 there BlackBerry. If we're considering that a comedy, I would take that over 358 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.680 this. BlackBerry is amazing. Or if we're considering that a comedy, I 359 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:08.440 would take that over this, and then Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three. 360 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:12.319 I don't know if we're considering that a comedy. Everything is so outside of 361 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:18.160 joy Ride here. Everything is so like it has humorous aspects to it, 362 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:22.960 but nothing is straight comedy. Yeah, I'm trying to think of straight comedies 363 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.519 that I saw. I saw I thought that the Machine wasn't bad. See 364 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.160 that, yet I thought that was going to be a waste of time. 365 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.480 So when I say it wasn't bad, it was better than I expected. 366 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.839 It wasn't a complete waste of time. And I'm not a massive consumer of 367 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:42.680 Bert Kreischer's comedy, So maybe if you've seen one or two of his jokes 368 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.920 before, you'll see it and be like, oh, this is tired. 369 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.759 But I don't know if i've seen Sure, everyone's seeing that one. Yeah, 370 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.000 but like I haven't seen so much of his stuff that I felt tuckered 371 00:26:52.039 --> 00:27:00.079 out by it. So but like as comedies go, it's not great for 372 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:04.200 twenty twenty three comedy DJ I crave, but I also crave rated our comedies 373 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.559 that just like we are starting feelings, I would say, we are starting 374 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.319 to get more of them. I have not seen no hard feelings. Mac 375 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:12.920 did enjoy it quite a bit. It's not bad. Yeah, it's not 376 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:18.440 bad. He says that it harkens back to like a mid two thousands comedy, 377 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:19.680 which, right, really, that's all we can ask for right now, 378 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:23.319 right if you want. I mean, the last two years, I 379 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:30.759 feel like the only like raunchy comedies we've gotten have been that. And in 380 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.119 this obviously dipped way more into rom comment points. But I thought that bros 381 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:41.640 had some like good old fashioned, like sit in the theater and actually laugh 382 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.680 moments that have maybe been escaping us the last decade. I would say that. 383 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.920 And Palm Springs, oh right, Palm Springs is great. Yeah, 384 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:52.079 you might have forgotten about because you had to watch it at home, right 385 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.279 exactly, I was gonna say, I remember where I was, and it 386 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.799 was my coach on Hulu. Sometimes I'm assuming that everyone's gonna see this movie. 387 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.920 There's really nothing that I, you know, chould have said that it 388 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.319 was terrible. Everyone's gonna see it anyways. I think everyone also has already 389 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.119 picked which side they're on. I was right down the middle, but I 390 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.200 was leaning more towards Oppenheimer. Now I still haven't seen Oppenheimer yet. I'm 391 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:22.799 so jazzed to see Oppenheimer and Mack and I will have a double Barbie Oppenheimer 392 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.240 podcast maybe at the end of next week or the beginning of the week after, 393 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.960 and then I know I'm on vacation coming up here. Mac will do 394 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:37.599 a Secret Invasion slash news dump coming up on this Monday, and then we'll 395 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.359 also do something Secret Invasion coming up either at the end of next week or 396 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.240 the beginning of the week after. It'll be one of the two with Barbenheimer, 397 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.279 but we'll figure out our schedule. Hey, DJ, where can the 398 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.720 people find you? You may find me on the Brunch podcast, of course, 399 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.799 just type in brunch somewhere and you'll find it. It was pointed out 400 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.920 to me recently that all of my social media have different handles, so I 401 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:07.119 apologize for that. I really care mostly these days about growing my Instagram and 402 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:12.359 my TikTok. So my Instagram is d E E and then just keep hitting 403 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.480 E. It's the worst, but I'm verified and if I change it, 404 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:21.039 I lose the check mark. It's a nightmare. So DJ on Instagram and 405 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:25.880 Brave Dave Bean on TikTok. You can follow Mac and Goo on all of 406 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:30.000 those social medias as well. Also, we have some new shirts up on 407 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:34.519 that's a chunky on t public dot com, but we'll be changing the name 408 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.559 of the site by the end of this week the beginning of next week. 409 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:44.160 Two shirt Brothers got a bunch of new stuff up there. Very very excited. 410 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.480 That's amazing, selling like hotcakes right now. So DJ, thank you 411 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.079 for joining me. Have you on again the next time that Mac is feeling 412 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.200 ill? Yes, anytime. I am always very very grateful to sub in. 413 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.720 Everyone go and listen to brunch and now it's time for girls jumping on 414 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:08.559 t appolins. Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue the adventure.