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Today, I want to tell you
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most of my life. Ever since
I was a kid, I've heard tales

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of bigfoot and wild men while spending
time with my friends and family. As

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I grew older and read more about
the paranormal, my interest in encryptids and

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Hey everybody, this is left Strive. Yes, yes, I know

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aka Survivor Man, and you're listening
to Brian on Sasquatch Audus. He there

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and welcome back to Sasquatch Honysty.
Thank you so much for being with us

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for the show. It is Friday. I hope you're having a week.

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We have an amazing show lined up
for you. But as always, I

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want to start by inviting you.
If you've had an encounter and you'd like

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to be on the show, shoot
me an email. You can get me

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at Brian at Baronimoreworldproductions dot com.
Get head over to the website, check

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it out, become a member there
and help support this show. I got

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to sit down with James from the
Michigan Aboriginal Project and he had some very

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interesting things to say about Sasquatch.
He's had some really cool encounters and he's

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caught a bunch of audio that I'm
going to include at the end of this

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episode. There's about fifteen or twenty
minutes of audio. I didn't want to

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stick it in in the middle,
so I'm gonna wait until the end of

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the interview, and I'm gonna put
it in there, so when the interview

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is ending, make sure you don't
go anywhere. You stick around if you

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want to hear these audio clips.
They're very interesting, to say the least.

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I'm gonna let you make up your
own mind about what you hear here.

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All this audio is pulled from videos
on the Michigan Aboriginal Project YouTube channel,

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so if you'd like to see those, I'm gonna link to all of

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those in the blog for this episode. So head over to Paranormaloral Productions dot

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com. Check out the sasquatch O
howt to see blog at the top of

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the page, and you can follow
along and actually see the videos and the

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audio as James explains it here.
Just be aware there is some strong language

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that's used in a couple of the
clips. There's a couple of f bombs,

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and I love them in there,
just because I wanted to have them

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as they were recorded by James in
the moment. So if you got little

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ones in the car, or if
you're sensitive to that kind of language,

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let this be your warning there.
Listener discretion is strongly advised. But enough

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of that, I know you guys
are ready to get into it. James

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is on the line. He's ready
to go. All this's left for you

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to do is sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I want

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to welcome our guest to the show. It is James from the Michigan Aboriginal

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Project. Welcome to the show.
James. Thank you, Brian. Appreciate

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the opportunity and to reach your audience. It's always nice to reach a new

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audience. I am glad to have
you, man. So let's dive right

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into this bigfoot thing. Let's start
with what got you interested in the subject?

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To begin with? I think my
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I grew up with three sisters and
my folks. They broke up early,

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so I was a lot of time
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the cellular heroes of Tarzan and the
Cowboys and Indians. Good guys always win,

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whether it be the Indians or the
Cowboys. I grew up a dreamer

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with the creek nearby, and I'd
spend as much time as I could in

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the creek. At least the time
that I did spend in the creek was

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among my most enjoyable memories because you're
not bothered by anybody, or you're on

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a great adventure finding crawdads and salamanders, that kind of stuff. That's how

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I spent part of my youth.
I've loved the outdoors. I'm a loner,

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having grown up in a broken family
with three sisters, so I forged

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my way into this whole cryptid thing. I was always just very intrigued by

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the Patterson Givel and film. I
always thought, I don't know if they're

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real or not, don't care.
Basically, if it is a hoax,

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it is a hoax. But I
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I wanted to see one. And
a place where I had been going up

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north, this valley forever. I
discovered that it was an ideal place to

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set your sights into the hills.
I'm an angling artist and I loved to

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camp, love to fish, do
the photography thing. That's my medium for

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art. I was up there and
I burned out on all that, and

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I thought that this big thing,
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thought it was real and I was
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it all got started. That was
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first year I went down the rabbit
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real phenomenon, learned everything I could
about it, and I was spending time

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in the woods anyway. Early spring
in late fall. I used that schedule

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was set up by having to wake
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to win horizon. I would always
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he sold that place, which was
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see a lot more of Michigan and
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That was long before this phenomenon struck
me. I felt somewhat called to it

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because they were real, and I
think we all should live life to the

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fullest. Life as an adventure.
If you're not living it, maybe you

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should get a new lifestyle coach or
something like that. I don't think there's

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a lifestyle coach on the planet that
would trum bigfoot hunting because it's terrible on

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relationships. It's amazing there are a
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our existence here. It's practically biblical. I'm actually beginning to believe in the

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Old Testament revers to giants. Years
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The simplest explanation is that the Old
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existence. These giants. I believe
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recorded vocals that are different in dialect
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Michigan as I have in Northern Michigan, and even yet different from vocals I've

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gotten in the up. Some of
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All are recorded there one night and
I got two amazing takeaways from that evening.

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The more I studied, I'm into
a few Bible studies, and I've

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learned also that Michael Heiser speaks of
this unseen realm, this shield some people

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call it. I don't know.
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but my current thinking is simply,
these are giants of the Old Testament

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are still there. There are a
variety of different kinds. If you listen

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to a lot of audio and understand
your audience, portion of who are into

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that, they're familiar with cra sounds, Ron moorehead stuff is really quite different

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from the other stuff that I've gotten
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Michigan or the Up for that matter. The one audio that I got,

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it's on my homepage of Michigan Aboriginal
dot com as part of my proof sources.

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The one audio I provide was captured
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that's the closest thing I have that
actually mimics what you'll hear in the cra

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sounds the cliff Notes version of my
journey. I found out that were real,

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went down the rabbit hole, learned
everything I could about them, was

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somewhat cajoled into a recording project,
which I resisted initially because it's a lot

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of work, right going over audio. I like it actually, but you

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can get lost in it. It
does strain relationships, this whole phenomenon.

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If you're enthusiastic about it, it's
gonna strained relationships, especially if you take

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it to the nth degree, which
nobody ever sees coming, and I certainly

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did. But here I am.
I'm James with the Michigan Aboriginal project.

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Let's get into the woods and talk
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chronologically when you really got out into
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and started having experiences, tell us
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and what happened to you. Okay, I went up on two different

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camping trips when was beginning of September
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twenty sixteen. This is like my
initiation into the woods to test theories that

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I learned from Nathan Rio is his
YouTube name. I'm sure you've heard that.

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If you haven't, he identified the
fact that these beings, these communities

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have a somewhat of a structure to
it, a social structure, and they

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construct things out of wood stick structures, teepees, wigwams, and I'm not

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talking about the complicated puzzles that we
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I often want buy those because how
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doing that. I actually looked for
wigwam's GPS linked to's or actual other manipulations,

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the twists. I found some twists
very near structures and such. That's

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all sasquatch known behavior and activity.
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somewhat in keeping with the scientific method, when I find these, I

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leave a recorder there to see what
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or other vocal modalities that I have
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modalities that I've recorded on encounter audio. I have two audio encounters recorded and

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one video record, but actually a
post encounter, and the one I captured

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on video I didn't even know I
captured till four months later. Let's talk

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about those. Start with the audio
encounters and set the scene for us.

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Tell us where you were, what
happened during that, and then we'll obviously

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insert the audio for everybody to hear
when they're listening to this. But let's

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get into the story of what was
going going on and what you were doing,

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what they were doing, and what
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first audio recording that I got was
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They're all good, and they're all
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But I was up I had moved
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spot. It was October twenty first
friend of mine's mother had passed, so

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I wanted to attend the funeral service
later in the week, so I truncated

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my trip by a day, so
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My first night, all the action
went down. I was sitting under my

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tar, but I was sipping out
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I was about halfway through it,
and I heard down by the river,

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I heard a chi chi chu huh. It was crisp, clear,

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it was clearly speech, And I
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with me? Because there are no
other campers, it's raining, it's dark,

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It's a round eight o'clock on that
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I heard this to stretch, and
then I heard the autichowies some other

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commotion which sounded like huge monster truck
wheels going through my Usteret puddles. That's

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what it sounded like in my ears. The audio that actually is recorded and

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published, I remember it totally differently. But I remember also how it said

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at one, but it was there's
a hegi la wa moment that it's an

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enunciated heghi lah wa. All this
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you have other stuff that sounds demonic, sounds monstrous. Later on you

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have little gremlinish and very vocals.
You're cluck signaling. Prior to my audibly

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hearing the auchichi chuhua. Down by
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I have two versions of this on
my YouTube channel. One is called in

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their midst ten minutes Uninterrupted, and
that is the less processed, the less

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filtered audio. The other one is
a little more filtered, and you lose

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some from the less filtered audio,
but you pick up other things, like

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at the three minute thirty mark in
the original lightly filtered version, you cannot

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hear the expression. At the three
minute thirty second of the overly processed or

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modulated version, and you'll hear a
vocal. It says ebanopsi, which is

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super cool. It's in the background, it's a lower voice. It is

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really super cool. Most of the
vocals that the listener will hear I didn't

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detect. I only heard the madness. Afterwards. There was a big boom,

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had a sonic boom. I felt
a wave of that. I believe

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it was a vocal, and I'm
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else it could be. It sounded
like an empty dumpster being dropped on a

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concrete from a few feet above the
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felt it. Other madness went on. There was a moment when it felt

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like someone was putting sixty grit sandpaper
on my ear drums. It was very

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uncomfortable. It felt as if that
white snow of the TV when we were

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kids the TV went to white snow. It felt like that on my ear

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drums. That was crazy. There
was another moment where it's at the point

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where you'll hear me in the background, I say what was that? Right

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before that moment where I say what
was that, the tart moved, rainwater

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fell off the tarp, and the
tree the tarp was attached to that moved

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a little bit. It was weird. It was really weird, and I

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say what was that? The whole
experience was nuts, And just a few

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seconds into it, I honestly thought
those were going to be my last moments.

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And then you hear you feel that
stuff, and you hear that stuff

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and you have the sensations on your
tympanic membranes as what the hell I really

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thought I was going to die?
I was never molested that I didn't see

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one. I didn't see a single
one. I saw no eyeshine. And

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it was a month later when I
started listening to that audio. It was

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about a month before I had my
nerves back together, quite honestly, and

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I came home Brian, and I
can't talk to my wife, I can't

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talk to my family about it,
can't talk to anybody about it. Even

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some guys in my Bible study group. They're really not there for me when

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it comes to the emotional sort of
support and listening or of the ministry of

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presence that you really need. After
having experienced one of those, it was

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nuts. Don't ever want to go
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Nor the other audio encounter that I
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That was October twenty fourth, so
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was raining. It's interesting. I'm
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greater concealments, greater cover. Right, you got the dark, you have

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the wet, you have the sound. Interesting thing about the sound of the

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rain. They have an ability to
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or even the wind. And I've
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few big put students in the audience
and they want to check out, you

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can tell a lot about what's going
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I've been doing the Recording Now project
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you start to pick up at the
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Not only do you have to spend

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the time reviewing audio footage, you've
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things that are in there that might
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harmonic resonance speech. It's the clickie
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clickie cluckie, but it's also a
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to include spectrograms and spectrogram with the
audio that I publish. I'm starting to

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get away from that because I think
I've done enough and it's a lot of

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extra work trying to become a little
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thinking of this phenomenon and the audio
content, because I think maybe initially I

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was just throwing stuff up sounds with
their vocal spectrographs and spectrograms. I'm not

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doing any commentary, which is a
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I hope to make amends on that, because a lot of this needs explanation.

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I'm lazy, but right now I'm
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where I think I want it right
now, onward and upward towards the documentary

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artistic project. So maybe even a
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about. But again I'm challenged by
my laziness. Bless your heart if you

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get into writing a book. Man. I just finished mine and it's out

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now. Relation it was a labor
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about this second audio that you were
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that you had. Was it similar
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audible well and the vocal modalities picked
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similar. Again. It's raining on
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twenty fourth dark out. The tree
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somewhat of a canopy in a dark
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I was dreaming about a job I
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I heard this. I thought it
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cat because it was sounded like a
hissing to me. Again, I'm hearing

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a vocal and of course I'm coming
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hearing what sounded like a big hissing. So I thought maybe it was cougar.

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there. I rolled out out of
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this four foot ish tall standing like
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and down. It had moved back, and when I rolled over, I'm

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looking at it. I'm thinking,
asked the end of a deer, what's

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going on? And it began to
take shape. What little light was there?

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a light at tan four foot.
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no details of the face, but
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And I said, hey, when
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basically, and they said get out
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could fully extend my right arm,
it had gone. I heard maybe it

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leave, maybe one step, but
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fast. It was like just gone
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here. It was just gone.
I've examined the audio for about four and

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a half hours prior to that,
and some audio after that, and the

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vocal modalities are there. The speech
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sound was really it was speech,
but it was that more that harmonic.

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It sounds like a harmonica trying to
enunciate, which is weird if you can

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imagine that. So you can look
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first audio I published was a very
rude awakening. It's just maybe five six

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videos down off the top, but
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I've also thought since it was menacing
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that first audio capture and counter experience
that was quite menacine. Were they trying

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to be menacing? I don't know. It was scary. You got a

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whole host of different characters there.
I was messed up for that good month

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before I actually listened to the audio, and then when I cleaned it up,

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I was messed up for a good
three four more months after because there

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were multiple subjects out there, multiple
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Hear one it's after the five minute
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at a four minute fifty three second
of in their midst the two videos that

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I publish under that name. In
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it sounds like a gremlinish sort of
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minutes beyond that, the same voice
says, Havoc hate this man tomorrow,

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swear to God. And I'm formerly
atheist. I've done a one to ady

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on that. Not him, but
Jesus freak, I could probetize to your

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audience. Now, I'm not gonna
but one of the coolest things, one

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of the greatest benefits of Biblical studies
is the fact that this story of the

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Old Testament giants is likely to true. It's very true. They're still here.

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It's an amazing phenomenon. I definitely
want to get into some of your

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theories on that after we get through
the experiences. The audio has been something

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that has always fascinated me with tons
of different experiences because it's something that you

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can at least listen to get into. We know known animal sounds, we

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know what a human sound like.
There's a scientific baseline to start from and

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work from. I've done multiple interviews
with Ron Morehead about the Sierra Sounds.

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I've had Scott Nelson on the show
and done a breakdown of him explaining what

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he hears in the Sierra Sounds.
For me, it's been interesting to look

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at a lot of the audio that
people like yourself have captured and other people

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because we hear different things. I've
never really talked to anybody outside of Ron

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or Scott who have claimed to hear
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That's really interesting to me. Are
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we hear often? I've heard weird
things here on the audio that I've captured

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on my property of a really large
tree. And okay, we live in

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the middle of the woods. We're
on forty acres. Trees fall all the

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time, right. I have looked
for this tree. I'm still to this

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day looking for this tree. And
I recorded this probably seven months ago.

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It's really strange to hear shuffling walking
around in the area where the recorder's at

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and then you hear this this huge
tree coming down. It sounds like it's

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right next to the recorder. Yet
it's not there. Stay tuned for more

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sasquatch out to see. We'll be
right back after these messages. Are you

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capturing those kind of things or wood
knocks or any osrange. No, but

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I've heard that. I haven't captured
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It was the second I stepped out
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It was a Wednesday night, late
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camp and the headlights and all that. As soon as I stepped out of

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the car, I heard a tree
called the sounds. But the thing is,

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I heard no branches breaking. It's
a pretty dense forest up there.

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I recently posted a walk in their
woods. You can see right outside my

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camp where it is. A tree
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So I've heard that. Egor bursays
they're pranksters. Okay, the Russia guy

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for the audio, he says they're
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the one that woke me up at
six am, I think he was just

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being a little ass whole because I
have an interesting vocal after that, it

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sounds like I was so afraid.
It's sometime after that morning between the time

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of the incident that I woke up. But is that auditory paradolia? Who

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knows a lot of my stuff is
very esoteric, But that's what piqued my

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curiosity. What is this? Because
we know I've been in the woods whenever

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I can, for as long as
I can remember, I don't know these

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other sounds. Foxes can scare us, a squirrel can scare you. They

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can make pretty terrifying sounds, especially
if I catch you off guard. But

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they're not so esoteric. We know
about it. They're commonly known. This

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other stuff a subtle twitch, snip
or a sensation that is that harmonic kind

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of stuff. Then you go through
the very loborious task of peeling away at

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the hiss and all that kind of
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It depends on where you come from
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in scientific mind, like Kathy Strain, she says, my audio is distorted,

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and I'm like, I don't understand
that quite honestly, because when I

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capture a raw image of a subject
that eventually is artistic quality that I could

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sell work the image. I clarified, I bring it out. I work

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the image enough to elicit a particular
emotional response to the viewer. To me,

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it's just okay, that feels right, the composition's right, et cetera.

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To me, it doesn't do anything
for me unless you enhance things a

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little bit, clarify, get rid
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the water in that snake image.
Taking the same approach with the audio as

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I did with photography, and that
I want to amplify it enough so it

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doesn't lose too much. It really
clarifies what's there. It's like the Michigan

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Valley voices. That is definitely something
that you should play for your audience,

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because the first time I got only
my close quarter stuff and a TP that

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I've gotten a lot of vocals from. Not only were the subjects near the

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recorder, there were subjects around the
valley. It sounds like they're around the

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valley and they're all communicating. It
begins with the last half of a knaw,

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which I maintained as a note a
vocal. Then it's responded by a

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call, and then that call is
responded by like a siren call, which

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is another reason why if underscores or
affirms some suspicions that these beings may be

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of a realm discussed in the Bible. What realm, I don't know.

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And that siren call, there's some
other stuff and it's not chaos. It's

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like there's a meeting going on amidst
these residents or this community within the valley.

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It's unbelievable. It has some components
of other audio captures, even round

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warheads, especially those he played up
in the Alaska. I don't know if

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you saw that episode he was up
in Alaska. He played some amazing audio.

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But you'll hear multiple subjects communicating back
and forth. There is some speech,

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but there are also a host of
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It's called the Michigan Valley Voices.
I recommend version two point zero because

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it's a little better process. It's
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It's the best capture of that audio
that I've been able to work with.

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Before we move into some of your
other experiences, I'm going to put

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you on the spot here. There's
no pressure with this question at all,

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because we didn't talk about this beforehand. You mentioned the PG film when we

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first started the interview. You work
with images all the time. I don't

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know if you've seen the latest images
that have came out of what MK Davis

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and Todd Gatewood have worked on.
Have you seen those new images of Patty?

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I have, and it's really quite
amazing. Isn't there some AI assistance

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with the material that has to work
with I don't know how AI works.

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I know I can get it through
my Creative Cloud subscription, but again,

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I'm lazy, and some of that
stuff is beyond I learned it off.

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I'm doing enough to achieve what I
wish to achieve in this Michigan Aboriginal Project

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thing. It's funny because I've been
motivated by the fact that I think my

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family thinks I'm crazy, my friends
think I'm crazy. So I live in

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gross Point. There's social pressure everywhere. Gross Point is stereotypically social pressure.

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That's one of the rubs in the
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MK Davis and Todd Gatewood last week, round one of probably a couple of

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rounds of interviews. I'm going to
do with him to get through all of

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the material that there is to work
with there. But specifically, there are

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some questions about whether there was AI
used. He calls it an upscaling that

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he's doing with some sort of process
that he's used in software on a computer.

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I haven't really heard him talk about
what that is. That's interesting,

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but I think I've seen upscaling as
an option in one of my software programs,

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probably photo Shop. It might be
Illustrator. I don't know. I'm

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not that savvy with either of those
products. Again, I only do what

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I need to do to get paid, so that I imagine maybe the process

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of upscaling might be an equivalent to
AI. Maybe it is, I have

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no idea, but I imagine that
the software just looks at an image based

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on input. It can probably render
a pretty accurate I have no fault with

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anybody using technology or enhancements to prove
a point. The PG film, I

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think it's been beaten up. Now
mka's taking a new levels. I saw

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something within the past week or so. There may be a juvenile behind a

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stump. It moves, There's a
couple of dark spots. It does,

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in fact look like movement, So
that's pretty cool. I think we can

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still learn a lot from Ron Moore
Hitz audio. He mentions that one of

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those nights, and I don't know
if they got this on audio or not.

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I hope they did because he mentioned
it sounded as if they came through

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the camp they heard this thracking cracking
that sounds like the camp was being destroyed.

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And the more nothing was touched.
So they have a vocal and actually

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recorded this a few times and the
hanso it's a Hanzo file. It's a

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clacking, it's a we do know
they do the melodic clicking, the clucking,

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but this is like a super loud
plaque. I actually have some vocals

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that I'm convinced I thought they were
gunshots, and I was working on a

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little documentary fodder and I started to
clean up this file which I really thought

406
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:22.519
were gunshots. I'm not sure they
are. I believe that they can vocalize

407
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.200
and sound like anything they want if
you ask me, like a dumpster being

408
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:32.119
dropped onto the concrete or a high
caliber pistol being discharged in the woods.

409
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.440
They have those abilities. Whyne and
I were talking about it on that Bigfoot

410
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:40.519
podcast. We actually did an entire
episode about the Sierra Sounds because this interview

411
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.880
happened. I think it was last
year at some point, maybe last summer.

412
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.640
It was Jeff over at Pine Island
Research. He had Ron moorehead and

413
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.359
he had tied Niss on the show
and they were just talking casually, and

414
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:56.079
Jeff had talked to Todd beforehand,
and Todd had mentioned to him, Yeah,

415
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.839
Ron's got like another eleven or twelve
hours of the Sierra Sounds that nobody's

416
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:03.559
had heard, and yes, holy
shit, what are you talking about.

417
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.720
So he asked Ron about it on
the show and Ron's yeah, there's probably

418
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.319
I don't know, eleven or twelve
more hours that we haven't released. So

419
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.319
here's the thing I love about what
you're doing. There's a question in here

420
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.160
somewhere. I love the fact that
you're putting out. I assume you put

421
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.759
out just about everything there is.
If you find some sort of anomaly when

422
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.319
you're going through the audio, you
put it out there and let people hear

423
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:29.079
it. Yeah. I have not
published, and most of what I've gathered

424
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.880
is not published. Some of this
stuff freaks my shit out. This is

425
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.920
where I have to step away from
this stuff. There's no other explanation,

426
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.359
and the fact that we're dealing with
something that I'm not even sure we should

427
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.960
know about. I think we do
need to know about it. I think

428
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.440
it is right now. The giants
of the Old Testament are real. Maybe

429
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.400
we should listen to the Bible.
Imagine what society would be like if we

430
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:53.000
just obeyed the ten commandments. It'd
be Shane Grillab I'd love to hear some

431
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:57.799
of what Ron Moorehead has described as
having happened that night, because it's a

432
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:02.079
game for me. I call it
in my mind vocal gems from the depths

433
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.880
of the woods. It's this harmonic
stuff that is sometimes and I'm telling you

434
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:11.799
some of it sounds seriously angelic.
I've got a set of recordings. I

435
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.519
got a video of this view.
I document all my ingress and egress picking

436
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.599
up recordings, all that recorders,
all that kind of stuff. I have

437
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:25.160
some stuff that sounds really ethereally beautifully
angelic. It's weird, and it's really

438
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.720
weird. I haven't published any of
that. I've got thirteen hours that I

439
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:33.960
got spring last year, where you
can hear whoops on occasion and other vocal

440
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.880
modalities, and one subject walks by
the recorder. Sounds like he's humming a

441
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.559
tune. Not a lot of the
notes are expressed, but it sounds like

442
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.599
humming a tune. It's just really
amazing stuff. Most of what I've published

443
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.680
is the stuff that I think is
digestible for the viewing audience, because a

444
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.000
lot of this stuff isn't been through
a lot of shit in my life,

445
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.880
so I think I'm emotionally prepared for
a lot, but you're just not.

446
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:02.480
I'm actually beginning to shake a little
bit. There's more to this phenomenon than

447
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:07.759
we could ever imagine. I'm pushing
an evidence based approach in a very passive

448
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.720
way, and I think that's very
easily achievable with the audio project that I've

449
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.920
ends everted, and anybody can do
what I'm doing. I just have to

450
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:21.839
be willing to put the time into
it and perhaps even risk relationships. It

451
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:25.359
is a stressor, so be careful. I almost lost my fiance. We're

452
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.559
married now. It's a testament to
what kind of a salesman I am.

453
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.920
I think that's definitely a good yeah, yeah, and we got a good

454
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.200
thing going. And she knows this. She's coming around. She actually told

455
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:38.079
someone in church. She said he
actually found out found where they lived,

456
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.400
So I think she's coming around.
I think maybe her children there wasn't.

457
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:47.559
Certainly my daughter's it's convinced her because
they think it's all a myth. That

458
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.680
leads me into my next question I
was going to get to, is let's

459
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.359
talk a little bit about the area
that you're going into, because there are

460
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.599
people who are saying I think the
same thing. I'm a very skeptical person.

461
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.799
My cop brain immediately goes to Ockham's
razor. Like you said, are

462
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:07.359
you in an area where you're convinced
that there aren't people walking by humming tunes

463
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.640
and you're not catching people on audio? Obviously I don't want you to give

464
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.480
coordinates where you're setting up your project, let's keep it private. But in

465
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.759
general, can you describe the area
that you're in and give us the layout

466
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.960
of that, because there are people
who are going to hear this and say

467
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.359
it may be people that he's recording. How far out there are you?

468
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:27.599
Are you in an area where you're
convinced they're not people other than yourself?

469
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.279
Obviously most of my recordings I'm not
present for. But what I look for

470
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:36.119
are these structures there are physical artifacts
in the woods that give them away.

471
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.960
We talked about the tpie's wigwams lean
two's the twist things of that nature.

472
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.960
So when I find a TP that's
where they commute, and you test that

473
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.920
by simply leaving a recorder and see
if you get some vocals. It might

474
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:51.079
take several nights. Again, you
need to know what looks for. And

475
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.079
my hit rate is pretty high because
I went down that rabbit hole. I've

476
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:59.559
really twisted the recesses of my brains
learning this. This is learning curve kind

477
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.640
of stuff, as it is very
esoteric, and it's very hard to believe

478
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:07.720
that a humanoid species out there can
have a regular conversation within the sound of

479
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:13.759
the rain and we can't hear it. At times I sensed this harmonic resonance

480
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.119
that I call it. At times
I sensed that and I was wondering what

481
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:21.279
was going on. I remember wondering
about this weird sensation I had before the

482
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.240
ill Chichi cho huh and all the
other madness went down, and I couraged

483
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:31.160
the audience to listen to that because
it is otherworldly, demonic, weird,

484
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:37.640
very wharf like sounding vocals. It's
bizarre, it's weird and I got sidetracked

485
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.680
again, So bring me back right. That was a good way to answer

486
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:45.279
the question. I know you have
a documented siding. I saw the video

487
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.359
of what looks to be one of
these creatures. Can you give us the

488
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.960
backstory about where you were, what
you were doing, and what happened during

489
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:52.680
that experience. Yeah. Absolutely.
This is back in the twenty sixteen.

490
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.759
It was October thirtieth. A buddy
of mine from Indiana had come up.

491
00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:00.200
He spent I think two nights.
I showed him around or showed him some

492
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:04.400
structure of some anomalies. He's very
skeptical as well, but very kind and

493
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:08.159
courteous and gracious and allowing me to
try to educate him on this phenomenon.

494
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:12.320
So I was up there. He
had left that afternoon. It was later

495
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.119
that night. I was going to
go to bed. It was about quarter

496
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.639
to ten. I was brushing my
teeth. I had a little sonicare.

497
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.599
But you hear this humming, the
buzzing or humming of the sniccare, and

498
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.079
I went over to the side of
the camp to spit. I had my

499
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:30.599
red headlamp on. I spit and
I look up and there I see two

500
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.920
eyes, very wide set, huge
bottle circumference, huge. I locked in.

501
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.000
We had a stare down for I
don't know how long. It felt

502
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:44.360
longer than the nine minute video that
I captured after I broke the m pass

503
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.519
like it was a long stare down, and several minutes into it, it

504
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:52.920
eventually just closed its right eye to
the left. By my perspective, I'm

505
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:57.800
thinking it was becoming oversensitized to my
red lamp, even though it was night

506
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:02.480
in red light spectrum to with prolonged
use, it's really not that offensive.

507
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.559
But it closed its eyes and so
I lasted maybe another minute or two,

508
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.000
and I'm thinking, Okay, this
could go on all night. We could

509
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.760
do this all night. I was
getting a little bored at them. I

510
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.840
actually turned around, one of the
hardest things I've ever done, because at

511
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.639
this point I was convinced, Okay, this is a Sasquatch. I've heard

512
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.880
about eyeshine, and nothing in the
woods that I know I'm not around here,

513
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.400
not around that campsite, nothing has
that wide set and that large of

514
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.719
an eye, so it's pretty dark. Convinced, so I went and grabbed

515
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:35.639
my flashlight and my recorder, a
little sony handycamp and they were not attached

516
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:39.679
at the time. I've since attached
my flashlight to the recorder if the nighttime

517
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.679
opportunity record comes up. But I
went out there for a good It was

518
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.840
over nine minutes the footage that I
got. I never saw the subject in

519
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:51.920
the background, which I have revealed
on my website. But when I found

520
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.559
that I saw a little movement in
the background, I grabbed that footage used

521
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.000
to coach my video. It's a
little app which I highly recommend. It

522
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.199
enables you to actually thumb in and
expand on this and you can see the

523
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.599
movement of that subject in the background
on the initial footage. I think that's

524
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.599
six seconds of the nine minutes that
I published, and it was captured probably

525
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:17.360
within the first twenty seconds after I
turned on the flashlight and engage the camera.

526
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.119
That subject is revealed in the background. You see a shade back there

527
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.440
and it pivots from the right to
the left and it reveals the ocular recess.

528
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:31.800
You can detect an or rekeealer recess. You can see that the general

529
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:37.039
shape of the body, large trapezius
muscles. As it pivots its left arm

530
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:44.039
casts a dark a shadow on its
buttocks. You can detect that it was

531
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:47.039
shot and only thirty frames per second. I regret that to this day.

532
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:52.719
It's pretty slow compared to the technology, and I'm a frugal minded with batteries

533
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.239
and memory cards. I try to
keep as much wrap off as possible,

534
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.960
so I will never shoot in thirty
frames a second. Can but there is

535
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:08.599
enough light and movement to reveal the
shape of enough right monochromatic, i'minoid.

536
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:14.639
We know a sponge. It's definitely
an intriguing video. I will definitely link

537
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.320
to that over on the sasquats Otasey
blog for everybody to see. It'll go

538
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:22.039
directly to your YouTube channel so they
can check that out. It's very compelling.

539
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.480
I want to ask you this.
You've been doing this project for five

540
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:28.400
years. You've been out in the
woods, You've had some experiences. I

541
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.360
don't want to put words in your
mouth. I don't want to speak for

542
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.719
you. It seems to me that
you're leaning more towards these things being more

543
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.280
than just a flesh and blood creature. Not all of them, okay,

544
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.760
I want to get into that.
I am one of those people who I

545
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.960
talk to a lot of people.
I talked to a lady just this afternoon.

546
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.119
I had another interview earlier today.
She's had some weird experiences with what

547
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.639
she believes to be mind speak and
possibly some sort of infrasounds things going on,

548
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.000
and it's teetering on the wool.
She came right out and said,

549
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.960
I'm on the woo side of this. So let's get into that a little

550
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.840
bit, because you mentioned that earlier. You think there's different types of these

551
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.400
things. Talk a little bit about
your theory on what types we're talking about

552
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.840
and what you think these things might
be. Yeah. I don't know how

553
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.039
many types or what types there are. I just know that there are.

554
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.440
In Deuteronomy, second chapter, verse
twenty of the Old Testament, people get

555
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.119
a mention, just one mention in
the entire bot. They're called the zamzoo

556
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:29.199
mean people. They get their name
from the ancient Hebrew word or the Hebrew

557
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.079
word zim zoom, which is an
automotopia for to buzz or to hum.

558
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.480
Okay, I've looked into this and
there is a rationale an explanation for the

559
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.239
origins of the name, and that's
one of them. I have a lot

560
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:46.320
of these buzzing and humming vocal modalities
expressed not only in my encounters, but

561
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:52.280
in other audio captures when I'm not
around, and these are the places where

562
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:58.639
I believe they commune. When I
find singleton or concentrations of multiple structures.

563
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.840
I have a video vocal village record
replacements. You can see the entire village.

564
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:07.320
There's actually two versions of the vocal
village. One's just a walk through

565
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.920
and me just marveling. And I'll
never forget the feeling I had walking in

566
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.639
the midst of this place. For
the very first time, I stepped into

567
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.360
a time machine. I cast back
a one hundred thousand years. If evolution

568
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.079
is a thing to our earlier days. Right now, until I know otherwise,

569
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.920
I believe they're mortal. They're flesh
and blood. There is room in

570
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.559
that wu side conversation from a biblical
perspective anyway, that some of these things

571
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:34.360
could be the sons of God,
and the sons of God. They are

572
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:39.559
of His image. They are elloween
or ben elowein. They are sons of

573
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:44.599
God, but they are mortal.
Saw Maty two is the biblical reference there.

574
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.800
Saw Mady two speaks to them,
says they are the sons of God,

575
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.719
but they are mortal, and they
will die like princess, I'll die

576
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:55.000
like men you didn't see what their
number of years like. I believe it's

577
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.880
said that we are our years are
limited to one hundred and twenty. I

578
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:04.159
think my father's see that. Stay
tuned for more sasquat Chatasy will be right

579
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:12.679
back after these messages. So I
believe that there's an eschelon which very well

580
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.480
could be supernatural beings. I'm not
saying they're all supernatural. I'm not saying

581
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:21.599
they're awn Nephalie. All Nephilim are
all giants, but not all giants are

582
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.440
nephii, right. I believe the
Nephitie are most commonly heard to you are

583
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:29.119
the unholy offspring of the sons of
God and the Daughter's. So if these

584
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.199
sons are gods, are are mortal, they have bodies, they have corpse,

585
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:36.559
and these men of renow, these
men of old, who are they?

586
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.039
Who's Goliath? Who is the Kandahar
giant? Did he have a name?

587
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.000
I would think so. I think
those are the nephile I think there

588
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:50.119
are a variety of other beings out
there, some of whom could be the

589
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.360
sons of God. I'm not saying
all of them are, right, I've

590
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.079
re quard of them chanting. Okay, I'm not done this once. I

591
00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:02.159
only published one chanting video and you
can hear them. It's amazing, It's

592
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:08.960
unbelievably amazing. What are these things? These TP's walls, their altars?

593
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:14.239
Are they play things for their offspring? Nobody knows? Are they a way

594
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.800
to worship the one most high?
I don't know. I'm not going to

595
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.039
speculate and say this, that or
the other thing. But my current leanings

596
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:27.960
and where my own evidence is leading
me, is to this present line of

597
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.960
thinking that they could very well be
part of this otherworldly creation that are not

598
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:36.599
a part of our regular lives.
Why aren't we told about them? They're

599
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:39.960
real. I've seen them. I've
seen them a close with that juvenile.

600
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:44.320
Why aren't we told about these?
That was terrified. I went out there

601
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.239
looking for these things. I didn't
have an experience, although I've had experiences

602
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:51.599
in the past. I was how
ging was camping out in Idaho. I've

603
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:57.679
had experiences that were basically unexplained to
me, just an oddity of curiosity.

604
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.000
But what do you do with it? You have no excule exclamation. I

605
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.960
wouldn't think it about Bigfoot. We
might have joked about it back then.

606
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.400
But I think a lot of the
experiences in the past, I believe have

607
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.559
been explained by all that I've learned
about these creations. Again, I'm not

608
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.920
urging anybody, and by no means
should anybody go out and play this audio

609
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.480
outside. Don't do that. That's
dumb. That's dumb. If we know

610
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.559
this much about them, it might
be a good thing. I don't know.

611
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.360
I don't know what they're saying and
what they're doing. I've got them

612
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:31.159
in different situations. I have them
communing, and they sound very peaceful.

613
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:37.920
They say expressions of autica, pika, hut, and s fatif you can

614
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:43.119
hear all of those. Even in
this recording I captured, one says helicopters.

615
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:47.760
That is in a video called Voices
from the Depths of the Woods.

616
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:55.079
It's almost four minutes of audio footage
that I captured, and it's somewhat contiguous

617
00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:00.519
in that the recordings overnight with almost
amounted to four minutes. I was on

618
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.719
VCVA mode. But you hear one
say, come with me. Come it

619
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:09.360
like a deep come with me.
Another one says helicopters, another one come.

620
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.559
You hear other stuff in there that's
pretty amazing. So if there's anybody

621
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:16.320
that wants to go down the rabbit
hole, don't do what I did because

622
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:20.599
it's stress. Well on relationships.
I've done the work for you. Go

623
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:24.840
to my audio and you'll hear something
different. Every time I listened to my

624
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.960
encounter audio. Was it yesterday?
Yeah, it was yesterday. Just to

625
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.519
remind me I'm not crazy. It
did really did happen, and I picked

626
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:37.360
up something that I hadn't heard before. But it also makes a difference if

627
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:42.639
you're listening to the stuff, whether
you have EarPods on wired earbuds, listening

628
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:47.360
from a bowse speaker, listening to
my car audio, all of those different

629
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:55.000
sound delivery, speakers, modalities offer
a different sound, a different rendering of

630
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:59.280
what's there. So you can have
a lot of fun with this stuff.

631
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.079
It is a journey of discovery.
I never thought this was ever possible,

632
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.079
never dreamed it possible, and here
I am talking Bigfoot with Brian king Sharp.

633
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.239
It's been a hell of a journey. Definitely. Man, We've mentioned

634
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.800
it a couple of times. Let's
talk about the YouTube channel, Let's talk

635
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.039
about your website, and let's talk
about your store and where people can find

636
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:21.119
all of that stuff. Oh,
thank you for the opportunity. The YouTube

637
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.840
channel documents my entire journey from a
bumbling a beer drinking and these days I've

638
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.880
all but given up beer. Oh
I'm having one tonight, I'll probably have

639
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.519
two, and you'll see me bumbling
around the woods trying to figure out this

640
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:36.039
puzzle, trying to figure out this
mystery, really led by my own boyhood

641
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:40.000
curiosity and going out at night and
doing stupid things like whooping and knocking on

642
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:44.880
trees. I don't do that.
Don't do that. It's just not our

643
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:45.840
place to do that. And if
we really want to see one, I

644
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:50.760
want to have an engagement, bring
them in dealing with kindness, be passive

645
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.440
to them, and they'll come.
They're very curious they watch. It reminds

646
00:44:54.519 --> 00:45:00.440
me of First Enoch. The life
of these watchers, which are the sons

647
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.320
of God? Do they have a
line to God? And are they reporting

648
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.800
honest? I have no idea.
This is where you sound like you cuckoo.

649
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.440
I can totally understand that anybody in
the audience would think I'm not.

650
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:14.480
But like I said, based on
the evidence, and I've got alliums and

651
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.000
this stuff, based on everything that
I've listened to and learned. I've come

652
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:22.280
to a few conclusions that number one, how little we know about the nature

653
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.320
of things, and that this phenomenon
is a reality, and it's something I

654
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:28.800
think we need to learn from.
I've survived it so far. I'm grateful

655
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.119
to have tould the story. You
can learn a little bit about my story

656
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:36.880
at Michigan Original k and I have
a store there. I'm between jobs and

657
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:38.880
I'd love to be in some form
of semi retirement. And I know that

658
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.960
what I've captured here is novel.
It is a journey that I've prayed on

659
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.840
throughout the journey, and I'm grateful
for that journey. It's not just me.

660
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.119
It's not all me. I can
guarantee you. In that light,

661
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.920
it seems like we're living in a
matrix. Either God is real or we're

662
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.960
in a matrix. I eat,
It's just it's a weird sort of epiphty.

663
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:00.639
And I'm formerly atheist, totally atheist. I rational all I's got out

664
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.360
of my life, and a lot
of life happens, and you have another

665
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.719
perspective, and I'm grateful for that
perspective. So I share that on Michigan

666
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.079
Aboriginal dot Com you're going to look
at me up on YouTube. It's the

667
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:15.159
Michigan Aboriginal Project. I've got a
variety of things in there, and you

668
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.400
can see my whole journey back in
the days where you could argue that I

669
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.599
had some cases of paradolia, and
I know I have. I don't go

670
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.639
with still images or blurry renderings anymore. Just I don't do that. That

671
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:29.280
can drive you crazy. People.
If you're doing that, give it up.

672
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:34.400
Go to the strategically located places along
the rivers just outside your town.

673
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.159
You don't have to go very far. I go to Southfield, Michigan,

674
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.199
which is a twenty minute drive from
Grosspoint where I live now, and there

675
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:45.480
are inroads as a green way in
from the Rouge River. Any of our

676
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:51.840
river systems hosts a population of these
beans or some kinds of these beings.

677
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:58.880
But you look inside of oxpos,
look in areas that have accessibility. One

678
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:04.880
spot in ann Arbor, power lines, railways, a couple bridges across the

679
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:10.119
river. The river itself is a
corridor and it's a sasphotch follower. In

680
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.800
twenty two, in August, it
was on my birthday, I captured what

681
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:19.119
sounds like two female subjects. One
of them says, honey a wah,

682
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.519
I was shaggy one a while.
It sounds totally native American language to me.

683
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.800
If you ask me, I invite
academics. I invite scientists, crypto

684
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:31.559
anthropologists. If there are such things
to scrutinize my work, I invite that

685
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:36.239
open door invitation. Bringing on.
I'll share audio. This is something we

686
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:39.360
really need to know, everybody,
and we shouldn't be afraid of it,

687
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:45.840
I think, although some moments are
truly terrifying. So you see me in

688
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.119
all my bubbling idiocy, and when
I started out as a cr s moment

689
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:55.480
bear drinking boy in the woods to
now where I'm somewhat passively it's somewhat flandestinely

690
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.360
recording these structures. One of my
favorite versus is Jeremiah thirty three to three

691
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.639
that the Lord says, call to
me, and I will answer you and

692
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.079
tell you great and hidden things that
you have not known. And I feel

693
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:12.400
like that's what I've done here in
formerly atheist, having this little god journey

694
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:16.760
which I again I never saw coming, and praying on this adventure and ending

695
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:23.559
up getting some revelations like the Michigan
Valley voices these beings are civil and they're

696
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:29.000
having a meeting in God's country,
if you will. It's bizarre. Some

697
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.880
of these guys chant I've got them
chanty. You can hear them chanting.

698
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:39.079
All my audio is subject to rightful
criticisms. Just know that a little suspension

699
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:45.079
of what your preconceived notions is necessary
to accept the bigger picture. I hope

700
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:46.559
I got that out. Okay,
I think you did, man, I

701
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.960
think you did. Everybody go check
it out. I will link to that

702
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.199
stuff in the show notes, so
you guys go check it out. Yeah,

703
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:54.000
thank you. If everybody cares to
buy a T shirt or a sticker,

704
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:58.800
that would help me a long way
these interesting times right now, So

705
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.400
I'd be grateful. I got all
the designs I've made on my own.

706
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:07.679
That's the one most will recognize.
I use the iconic image or the profile

707
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:12.360
to make light of this thing.
I used to be Michigan Sasquatch on YouTube.

708
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.679
I'm now Michigan Aboriginal Project because I
think this discussion deserves a little higher

709
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:20.159
level of discussion, if you will, And there are a lot of very

710
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.599
learned people out there. You know, doctor jud Burton, Look doctor jud

711
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:30.559
Burton. Up he's aware that this
other realm, this unseen realm of other

712
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:36.039
beings exists. He knows, and
he has a perspective which it's not unique,

713
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:40.239
but it's a minority in his field
of theology or divinity if you will.

714
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:44.480
Yeah, he's a very learned Look
up the works of Michael Heiser,

715
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.400
doctor Michael Heiser. He has a
book called The Unseen Realm, and he's

716
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:52.440
very popular on YouTube. You can
learn a lot. It underscores the fact

717
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:58.719
to me that the very existence of
these otherworldly beings, beasts or whatever,

718
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:02.960
and they are mortal, they're very
real, but their very existence affirms the

719
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:08.559
narratives of the Old Testament, which
is a huge pill to swallow because we're

720
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:15.280
increasingly a secularized nation and to realize, and I've been there, I rationalized

721
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:19.199
God out of my life and thought
people were foolish for leaving such stories of

722
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.960
giants. Right. Yeah, here
I am talking to Brian King, sure

723
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:27.679
about this crazy subject. What a
blessing. Thank you for your time.

724
00:50:55.519 --> 00:51:40.480
Fuck. So that was my wake
up call this morning around six am.

725
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.599
This is the vocal that woke me
up. And if you listen closer,

726
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:47.199
you can also hear a vocal here. This is very esoteric stuff, guys,

727
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.400
but that a little more difficult to
detect. But you can hear in

728
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:59.159
the background. This is what woke
me up. It was fucking terrifying.

729
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:04.920
Part of my language. It was, it was kind of crazy. So

730
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:10.280
this is first splash, having a
stab at the filtering and audio clean up,

731
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:15.599
that kind of stuff. But I
saw the subject, I mean,

732
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:17.800
look it up. When I said
hey, I saw it, and it

733
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:22.599
seemed to kind of jump back,
as if it were surprised that I would

734
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:31.199
be surprised or taken that kind of
retaliatory stance. And you hear me say

735
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.440
hey, and then here get out
of here. And on the audio,

736
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.519
I've got my bows linked up.
It's bluetooth, so there's a slight delay

737
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:43.920
in what you hear and what you
see here. But this is the vocal

738
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:50.880
print that sounds. I'd say it
sounds kind of demonic. I hate to

739
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.159
say that, but because you know, I've had other opinions of these,

740
00:52:53.199 --> 00:53:00.360
I've heard them in their natural state
without the presence of any humans, sounding

741
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:05.000
very pleasant. But I saw the
subject. It was about four foot I

742
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:13.480
presume it was a juvenile sasquatch using
this sort of harmonic resonant vocal modality that

743
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.199
you can hear in the background.
This is really audible. You can hear

744
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:23.000
it back there. I don't remember
hearing that at all, But here's that

745
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:29.159
is me right there. I think
I think that might be my expletive.

746
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:37.639
Here's me saying hey, and here's
saying get out of here. And so

747
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:43.199
that's that pretty scary stuff. That's
how I woke up this morning. That's

748
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:50.239
why I've come home one day earlier
than I traditionally would have. I traditionally

749
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:53.119
spent four nights in the woods solo
in the spring, early spring, late

750
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:57.559
fall, no bugs, no people, except for these bastards, these little

751
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:02.000
assholes. Pardon my language, but
I hadn't slept well in three nights and

752
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:07.280
going on three nights with this one. And for this little bastard to carry

753
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:14.199
on it sounds like a huge monster
or some sort of demoniac. I don't

754
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.360
know that they're demoniacs. I don't, I really don't. But that shit

755
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:28.280
went down this morning and that's why
I am home. So anyway, that's

756
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:32.280
that. I hope you enjoyed this. And uh and uh, that's about

757
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:37.920
all I got. So that happened. Take care of y'all be well.

758
00:54:38.039 --> 01:00:30.480
Peace talking ea men, do you
know what that is? I would say,

759
01:00:30.599 --> 01:01:15.679
the future, not three, find
the moving ship. Let's go in

760
01:01:15.760 --> 01:03:44.719
that direction. I had put things. Let me listen here communication that's crowl

761
01:03:45.320 --> 01:06:45.599
the top storage. If you left, the order of the sen said.

762
01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:38.840
They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay. You know,

763
01:08:38.960 --> 01:09:06.039
I don't want to be alone.
We're all happen joy this job,

764
01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:13.039
that chid everything. Call me ride
back, riding back for joy, for

765
01:09:13.319 --> 01:10:00.279
me joy, Stay right, you
call it right away? Still step do

766
01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:30.640
do do do do do, doss
stasssts things muss

