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Mm hmm. Tuesday, September sixteenth, The day's come, the day I's

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calm true. This is your part
Tuesday Breaking Home Dan. Yeah, it's

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our new theme music. That's pretty
good. That's yeah. We're we're shopping

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it. Yeah, I mean I
think we nailed it. We're working all

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yeah, Okay, maybe first day, Kip. Yeah, come, I'll

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send around the mix down and we
can I can look at it. I

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want to bump into my car,
make sure it sounds tight, and I

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I've I'm talking with the Rick Rubins
people. I think maybe gonna get him

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in here for a little. He
just wants to lay on this couch and

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we'll not wear shoes for those productions. Okay, sure, get him in

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here. I saw a picture of
him the other day. He still got

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the beard he got old. Yep, he is like old man old.

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Yeah, he's still got in the
beard and the long hair. He's still

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like a weird looking dude. Yep. Absolutely. Welcome to the job Bodcast.

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Yes, your weekly update for all
things Rip Reubin. That's right,

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we nailed it. His work on
Let's work with jay Z yep, his

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most famous work of fall indeed.
Yeah, yeah, it's a podcast.

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It is a podcast that is accurate. Jeff Gerson is here. Hello,

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you're scandal in this here. I
am Dan ragerd is here. I'm here.

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I'm bred Shaker. Hi, Jeff. Yeah, I think that we

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need to declare moratorium on pre podcast
burritos. Uh. I've been thinking about

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it, okay, for like the
last hour, since since we went and

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got that burritos, since we finished
those burritos. Yeah. Yeah. He's

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also always eat lunch at like two
four. Yeah. I don't know what's

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up with that. I don't get
hungry until I barely. Sometimes I don't

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even get hungry until six or seven. Yeah, yeah, I even how

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you guys do I even ate breakfast
at a normal time today? Like eat?

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I normally don't eat breakfast, and
that's doubly weird. Yeah, Like

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you don't wake up hungry, Nope, as soon as it clicks over to

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noon, I am starving. I
wake up with a feeling in my stomach

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that if I were to eat this
early it would probably be bad, like

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it might come back, yeah or
maybe something. I don't know. I

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often wake up going like I don't
oh, the last thing I'm thinking about

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his food about energy drinks sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, we should switch over

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to my dad's diet, which is
he wakes up and has monster energy drinks

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and cigarettes until about seven thirty or
eight at night, and on his way

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home from work he gets like twenty
dollars worth of taco bella, eats it

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all and then passes out. Wait, he eats once a day. Yeah,

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at night first weal Yeah, first
meal, first and only meal.

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Yeah, cigarettes and energy drinks until
it seven or eight nights paleo, Right,

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so I think that's what he's going
for. Yeah, yes, ancient

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man survived. Yeah, so you're
it's monsters and foraging for taurine. Yeah,

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means cholupa M. Dude. Wow, that's I don't tell that's all

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I can handle for this week?
Do you save the rest? All right,

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we'll get back to that weekly.
Paul reichord minute. Yeah, wow,

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that's I don't smoke. Yeah,
I don't know, you know,

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And I usually will have one energy
drink a day, not several. But

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what's his energy drink? A choice? You know? Rock star? Yeah,

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yeah, just plain right. Maybe
it's monsters. Yeah, I think

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it's just came up twenty seconds ago, said because yeah, every time he

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comes to town, he's like,
oh, you gotta go to the store

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and make sure you get a bunch
of Monster energy drinks. So I always

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have to like stock up before it
comes over. Is like a specific flavor

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of Monster Green, the green one, the green can. Yeah, the

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Monster Rehab, which is their knockoff
of Rock Star Recovery, but as tea

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in it. So it's like a
morning thing that like a what are you

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what are you rehabilitating? Exactly?
You're hungover? Ass Okay, I think

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that's the kind of implied doesn't work, yeah, sort of, yeah,

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yeah, So that's kind of the
only energy drink that I drink anymore is

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rock Star Recovery, which is like
the ten calorie non carbonated lemonade flavored because

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you're hung over every day, yes, like every day. I don't even

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I don't have the drink anymore.
I still wake up going better. Not

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anything, no, No, it's
it's uh, it became like the last

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effective energy drink for me at some
point, and so I drink those.

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I usually I will stop and get
So that is the thing is like I

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don't necessarily eat what would you you
would call a breakfast, but I will

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stop at the gas station more often
than not. Okay, and get get

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that in some kind of breakfast bar, like a cliff like yeah, like

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a cliff bar, or like a
power bar, cereal bar. Usually not

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a cereal bar, because those are
just candy at some point, like it's

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just it's all too much fruit and
nutbar. Or I'll get trail mix.

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The other day, I got some
peanuts. Peanuts are good for you.

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This is why you should listen to
me drive into the office. You could.

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You can hear these game time decisions
being made. Yeah, as I

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get back into the car and go, I got peanuts. There is there

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There must be like a mixer app
on the phone, right, Yeah,

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that's how broadcast out of the phone. You can also listen from the phone,

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so I could listen to your commute
while I'm on my commute, I

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think, so yeah, wow,
Yeah, it's heavy. It's a real

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nightmare. It's Steve. Yeah,
I don't think I'm ready for that.

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Nope, I don't talk so much
anymore. So it's really just you'll listen

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to music here you flip around satellite
radio and basically do you ever listen to

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the god? What was it called? Was that X? Rated station.

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They took it off. It's gone. They took it off. Since when

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did you give me that ride?
That was only a couple of months ago.

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Yeah, so you can still get
it on their app. But yeah,

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I guess that company decided they wanted
to go solo and now have an

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app of their own. They want
you to pay a separate monthly fee to

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listen to, so lucrative is their
business. So why there? So it

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was adult radio run by a porn
company. So where was it just interviews

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about the porn industry or no?
So this is this form has been going

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for years and years. Playboy Channel
had something similar called Nightcalls, and it

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was a video show and people call
in. Truckers mostly truckers love satellite radio.

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As it turns out, truckers are
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the satellite radio world and there's still
a big part of it. Truckers also

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love pornography. Yes, truckers are
also they are on the road and lonely,

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so truckers will call in to touch
themselves while talking to a lady of

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porn while driving a truck and she
will say things in a porn like nature,

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whow I mean maybe driving a truck. I have no idea. This

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broadcast on the radio, satellite radio. So you hear the truckers station.

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Yes, they're callers, they're grollers
to a call in radio show, and

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so she's saying, like the stuff
she's gonna do, and he's like,

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no, I mean it's ostensibly it's
like a I mean the one I heard

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was almost like a call in advice
show. Yes, so yeah, there's

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some advice, but sometimes it's just
like, what are you wearing? What

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do you want me to be wearing? Like you, I'm a bunny suit.

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Bunny suit, And then that sounds
fascinating. It is incredibly fascinating.

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I found it horrifying and and and
also severely horrifying. Yeah. Yeah,

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but sometimes you'll get like ladies of
porn who are of note hosting some of

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these shows, and people will call
in to go, I love all your

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movies. Good impression of peorgn thing. Yeah, and those are always fun

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to hear too. So yeah.
So at one point we got the Playboy

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channel, and don't I don't subscribe
to it. I don't get it anymore,

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but they used to. It was
a video version of the show,

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and they would take calls, so
it wasn't truckers at that point, I

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guess. But you know, people
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I want to see your boobs big
better, so the camera would oblige.

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And it's a it's a it's a
nightmarish form. It's a nightmarish use of

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technology that I can only support.
And this is a company that makes money

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and sustained itself. It used to
be Playboy, and then it was Vivid,

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which is renowned, and I believe
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radio airwaves to their own website now
where they're selling memberships like you would to

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a porn site for example. Porn
industry is really trying everything to stay you

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know everything we're making, yes,
and everything went bad for them. That's

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that's the bottom dropped out of porn
at some point because the way the Internet

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is gone for them. Yeah,
they kind of have to figure out new

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revenue streams. It's very rough.
Satellite radio is such I think this video

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game shit is weird, man,
Yeah, it's not get started. Satellite

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radio is just so weird to me
because I mean, yeah, it's behind

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a paywall, so obviously they can
run whatever programming they want, it's mind

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a paywall, and then on top
of that that channel and like the Howard

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Stern channel and Oprah are behind another
paywall three dollars a month or something like

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that, wait on top of the
existing fee, even even when you had

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it or yeah, okay, yeah, I'm just paying for some premium tier

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of service. Yeah exactly. So
I think, you know, because Howard

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Stearn's contract was so ridiculous when they
signed him up that I think that there

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was just like the fees they were
currently getting, they wouldn't be enough for

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them to pay him, right,
so they had to they had to do

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that. We all realized they could
get away with doing that and did it

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or whatever it ended up being.
But but yeah, it's just I guess,

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you know, the delivery mechanism has
always been so sanitized. Yeah,

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you know, under the it's still
the hospices of the FCC or whatever,

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even though it's like it's like logically, I know, A, you're paying

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for this and B it's coming from
a satellite, so you have to have

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like specialized equipment you can hear it. Yeah. Yeah, Like the idea

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of a radio station playing like X
rated content is It's like it's hard to

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process fucking amazing when you hear it
coming out of the car speakers think hard

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to think about, Like if you
can hear the worst shit imagineable. And

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I'm not even talking about the porn
stuff. I'm talking about the rap stations.

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Yeah, some of the shows they
have because they'll they'll do mixed shows

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just like any other rap station would, and it'll be like people in the

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studio saying whatever, but now they
can really say whatever, And you're like,

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that is maybe the most ignorant,
homophobic, racist thing I've ever heard

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anyone say. And that was one
sentence. Experience it live. Every week

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dj K Slay finds a new way
to make you go, man, I

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gotta fucking stop listening to the hip
hop. This is fucked up. If

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they ever given Uncle lukea's own show, No, he may have had one

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at White I know actually he was
on regular terrestrial radio in Miami. He

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may still be. How did he
contain himself? You know, Uncle Luke

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is for the children. Okay,
the two Life Girl always were That was

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That was the secret about that stuff
is like no adult has sex like that.

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That's only something kids want to hear
about right. Yeah, I really

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like satellite radio, but it's also
frivolous and stupid, Like you know,

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I don't know that i'd recommend it, but I got when I bought my

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car, it came with a subscription, and I was like, yeah,

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I like the idea of uncensored.
Actually it's been really nice. It's gotten

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me way back into rap music in
a way that i'd kind of fallen off

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just because it is. It is
uncensored, and they are they are kind

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of out there playing whatever. But
there are plenty of like the pop stations.

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It's not like they don't just curse
on every station. They denote like

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these are the explicit lyrics stations,
and it's the metal station, and these

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two rap stations and that sort of
stuff. But if you go to the

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pop station and a song with cursing
happens to be popular at the moment,

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they still play the radio. Aren't
there even I think it's bullsh Are there

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even like stand up comedy stations and
those are on sensored too? That sounds

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awesome. I just yeah that stuff. Yeah, if you were a trucker

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and you were in the car all
the time, stand a stand up comedy

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is weird to me because they always
they'll they'll play full sets, but it's

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a lot of just like here's track
nine off the CD and then track eight

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off of this other guy's CDs.
It's like all backs of things you didn't

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even hear. Yeah, there's stuff
like that as it happens, where you're

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just like this, I don't know
that that's the best way to digest that,

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but it's not. It's not the
worst thing in the world. They

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have like five comedy stations. Is
there a wrestling one there? So there

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are sports. There are a ton
of sports things, and I keep hearing

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that there is some show on there
that is a wrestling show. There's not

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a station, so you can't just
go to one where it's like, oh,

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here's Austin Jericho, Ross's Pipers,
like all there's like that's all.

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No, there's no one that's all. So on their their online side of

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the satellite radio stuff, they have
like a thousand more channels because it's the

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Internet and who cares, and for
that stuff they actually have gone out and

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licensed podcast content for some of those. So I think like comedy Bang Bang

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is on or or was at one
point on the satellite radio that way,

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So there's no reason they couldn't do
that. But they're not devoting actual satellite

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bandwidth. It's not coming off the
bird. As we say in the satellite

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business, what's the bird the satellite? I know you're hip to the lingo.

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It's coming off the bird. Stupid. Oh man, we gotta we

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can't see the bird from this part
of the sky. We gotta cut these

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trees down. You gotta paint the
bird. Like Grandpa's growing up had like

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the traditional style of satellite dish.
Yeah, the kind you had to like

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a root in the ground and it
was like eight feet across. Yeah,

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you know what I'm talking about.
That's awesome. Those things are awesome.

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And it was like you know,
motorized, so you had like you know,

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pointed at a different bird. Yeah, you'd have to hit You don't

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have to hit a different bird,
right, you just paint a different bird.

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Yeah, Like you were you were
literally like dialing in, you know,

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making this up, but like US
East or whatever, you know,

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it's like coordinates SAT SAT Star Galactic
or whatever. And then you wanted,

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like you know, once you hit
that satellite, you just said like I

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want like Trance pondered nine, right, and yeah, it was bizarre.

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Did you watch like raw satellite feeds
using it? No, I'd I'd never

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messed with it too much. I
didn't want to screw anything. I never

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I never really got the opportunity to
mess with one either. And that's I

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mean, that's I feel like I
missed an era of television that was really

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magical when that stuff was just unencrypted
out there on the area. Because in

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space, I got the sense that
even they didn't know what was going to

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come in over it, you know, right, yeah, like you could

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get a book, like there was
a company that'd be like, you know,

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here's the TV guide for satellite TV. But it was this giant thing

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that was like I don't know,
point the satellite at Texas and then you'll

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get this and you know, like, yeah, all that stuff is so

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crazy. Like we had a satellite
TV for a while and when New Year's

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came around, we just would watch
the ball drop at nine pm. If

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you got the East Coast feed and
they go to sleep, it's great,

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the hell of a night. And
yeah, you were you were a real

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helly and worship. Yeah, jeez, yeah, you've got you've got like

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whatever the modern equivalent is, right, I've direct TV, which is the

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tiny dish. Like those things don't
move to they Nope, they don't need

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to. There are synchronous yeah,
multiple birds, yeah up there, so

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you just like find the one with
the best line of site. So it

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ends up being that you depending on
what programming package you want, you might

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need a dish that can hit multiple
birds. Okay, so if you want

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like all the Spanish language stations,
you need an oval shaped dish or something

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like that because all the soccer and
and Spanish stuff is on a separate soccer

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bird. Soccer bird. Yeah,
fascinating. Yeah, man, that ship's

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in space, wild and wooly world
of satellite television, and it's not like

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you used to be. Oh but
what is That's that's a good point.

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I want to be in space.
It's like sweet okay, yeah, I

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feel like we should launch a satellite. You got to spare two hundred grand.

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You can go buy a ticket on
Virgin Galactic. That's it. I

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think that's what it is. Yeah, it's not that bad, is it?

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Like hundred thousand dollars for a thirty
minute flight. I thought it would

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be millions to go into space.
Well no, no, I mean,

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let's not up and running yet.
Is it space space or is it like

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you're really high and technically in a
different like stratosphere. It's low Earth orbit,

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I believe, So is it see
stars? I mean, is it

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might not even be that? Actually
I'm not sure. It's very low.

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So you're not out of the atmosphere. That's a good question. I'd have

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to look that up. Yeah,
that'd be a rip off. You're weightless,

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You're definitely weight you are weightless.
Yeah, okay, but I want

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to be out of the atmosphere.
I want to look and see just nothing

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but black and stars and stuff.
I don't know that, yeah, and

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be floating. Think you might be. I remember reading how High You Go

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and being slightly disappointed that it wasn't
high. It's like eighty thousand or something.

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Yeah, I don't know, one
hundred thousand. Yeah, I don't

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know. See if that stuff ever
even happens, You guys think Mars one

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will happen? Was that the reality
show? Yeah? No, reality show?

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What's that? They are doing a
reality show where they pick like colonists

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and send them to Mars. Who's
talking about doing this? Is this like

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an actual TV station or a crazy
Dutch billionaire. Okay, all right,

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it sounds about right. So wait, is he funding this and trying to

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like and then privately do this.
I think he's he's he's privately funding the

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start of it and then is hoping
that the reality show catches on and then

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that will uh feed the mission.
I mean that would be the most even

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the most popular reality show going wouldn't
necessarily generate the amount of money required.

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Well, that's the thing is,
like even the most popular ones, like

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when Survivor was a huge d like, the production cost couldn't have been that

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bad. It's just like, hey, let's get twelve assholes and put them

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on an island and point cameras at
him, Like, you're not sending people

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to Mars, Like that's way we're
expensive to take it to an island.

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Yeah, but I'd watch the hell
out of that. Sure, I'd be

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on that show. Yeah, i'd
go to Mars. Would you be the

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first guaranteed? Yeah? Not coming
back? You mean you mean according you

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mean according to the terms of the
way these people are doing it. Yes,

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Like they're just saying we're not even
building it into the mission plan to

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get you back right. Okay,
So you're going to be famous on the

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show, but you're going to die
on an alien planet in the contract.

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What's wrong with that? Be the
first person to die on another planet again,

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like I said, I would do
it. Elon Musk wants to die

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on Mars. Really, Yeah,
that's why he's building all them spacecrafts.

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Yeah, there's nothing wrong with dying
on an alien planet. I mean,

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you've you known't done it. You
want to guarantee it plays on you,

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Like seriously, what I said.
You want to guarantee your plays in the

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history books. That'll do it.
Yeah, you will never be forgot,

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especially if it was like something really
dumb. What Yeah, Yeah, it's

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just like salmonella in space. Sure, aid, would you get a Wi

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Fi connection? Is that possible,
because like satellites are still during the same

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universe right as Mars. They're really
far Mars is really far away. Yeah,

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the rovers get a data connection like
they send him, but but it

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is not fifty six k there's an
eight minute there's an eight minute lag from

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from Earth to Mars. Yeah,
you try to join a counterspects here where

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you get kicked them? Could I
stream the WA network from Mars at like

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one frame every nine minute, but
a buffer for a couple of weeks.

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Yeah, just hit play, then
hit pause, and then I walk away

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and come back to my legend's house
episode. Yeah. Like, oh,

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I've clicked to play on the wrong
thing. I'm trying to think of what

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you would eat on Mars dirt.
It's a bunch of rocks. I mean,

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I mean Dan specifically, I had
to bring a lot of astronaut food.

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She's probably travels. Yeah, I
would think she's with his astronaut food.

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Is it actually it must be good
enough for you? Probably? Right?

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It propels out of that can in
a way that would probably be pretty

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awesome in space. Is there no
video silly string? Oh that'd be great,

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I wonder, Yeah, pressure ized
containers. I don't know. It's

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calls for an experiment. Yep,
let's go to space, get it up

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in orbit. Yep, let's make
it happen. Dan ivied and the astronaut

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ice cream. I think I haven't
like dry and weird. Yeah, I

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think I had it when I was
a kid. I like it, is

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that good? Is that the same
thing as does dipping dots? Or is

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that? No? I scream of
the future. Okay, yeah, I've

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never I've never had either. I'm
just both they're both great. Yeah,

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it's been the ice cream of the
future for like four decades. When I

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went to Space Camp, that's what
they had, yep, but not actual

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astronaut ice cream. That too weird. Let's all go to space Okay,

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Yeah, the Space Camp is awesome. I also went to their sister school,

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Aviation Challenge, just like Space Camp, but for fighter pilots, which

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was better. Who I would uh
man? Were they both full on camp

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commitments? Yeah? It was like
a week okay, yeah, okay,

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challenge just sounds like an obstacle course. Maybeation Challenge had a room full of

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uh cockpit mockups of fighter jets that
everyone got in and then dog fight against

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each other or something. Yeah,
so that that's called that's called Magic Edge.

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Is the jet fighter version of Battle
Tech that's like commercially available. It

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was. It was in Mountain View
and it was yeah Alabama. Okay,

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so there was like multiplayer dog fighting
in these enclosed cockpits that would raise up.

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They wouldn't do full three sixty,
but they looped around so far enough

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that it sort of felt like it
and It was awesome, but they wanted

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you to wear a jumpsuit, and
they were all very much like talking to

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you like they were real fighter pilots
and not just dudes that work at this

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fucking jet simulator place or whatever come
up and click their teeth at you know,

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you know, I'm probably not.
You aren't dangerous that some actual valcomer's

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doing. Now. Yeah, he's
trying to get that off the ground again.

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I don't think I don't think Madge
is open anymore. But Brad,

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I go skydiving every year. That's
how can I convince you to go skydiving?

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I feel like Drew's done it all
right, Okay, waited to tandem

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or static line? Tandem tandem?
Okay, Jeff, you ever done?

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No? I want to convince you
guys all to go static line. Is

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the first five times I jumped,
I went by myself, which I didn't

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even know you could do, and
it's terrifying. And now I'm only doing

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tannum for the rest of my life. Of course, you found a way

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to subvert the rules of sky It
might be so No, it might be

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some weird Kansas po dunk place I
was going to or something I just pull

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this thing here, you'll be good. No, you don't even have to

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pull anything. You do an eight
hour class and then they attached like a

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big gass rope to your shoot and
to the plane, and so you get

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up like it's it's a low jump, it's like four thousand and five thousand

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feet and they open the door and
you have to grab the strut that's connected

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to the wing of the plane and
you ship me out to the edge like

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you're fucking Steven Seagal. And then
you look at this dude of sitting in

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the doorway and he's like, all
right, let go, and you let

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go and make an X with your
body and then the thing pulls your shoot

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for you. So there's like no
free fall really, so it's like seven

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seconds of like holy shit, what's
going on? And then there's the shoot

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and you float down for like you
know, ten minutes or whatever, Whereas

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tandem you get like a two minute
free fall, which is super awesome and

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you could pass out and shit your
pants and land on the ground safe right,

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Like to only do tandem like static
line, no, it sucks.

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So tandem are you to the point
where you just jump out with the shoot

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you have to do like within a
certain amount of time, you have to

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do like X amount of tandem jumps, and like now I'm at the point

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where I've done it enough to where
you get like a log book and it's

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like, okay, so this time, now you're gonna be checking the l

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termater and you're gonna be you know, pulling the cord instead of me.

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Like the first time you do tandem, they're gonna do everything, and then

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they just give you more and more
responsibility until it's like, all right,

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I want to jump out of this
plane by yourself. Yeah, so I

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haven't done that yet. I don't
know if I want to. I kind

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of like just the not responsibility of
tandem and like its just dude, you've

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done this ten thousand times. Make
sure I don't die. Yeah, you

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know, how long is it the
free fall? I usually do fourteen thousand

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foot jumps and it uses like a
two minute free fall followed by five to

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seven minute to cent. I think, what's going through your head during during

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the two minutes? That's the thing. It's everything's going through your head on

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the ascent, like as you're on
the plane, because that's when it's just

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all the panic or you're just sweating. It's like, oh god, oh,

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let me make sure I'm strapping all
right? Okay, does this?

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Okay? This, it's fine.
How many times you jumped to okay,

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like you're you're panicking. Then the
second that you kind of roll over and

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you start falling, your brain just
just adrenaline just straight through your brain,

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especially like the first hundred feet or
so where the the wind resistance hasn't caught

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up to your body. Yeah,
and that's just feels like you're falling.

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But as soon as you like get
a speed and you reach like equilibrium,

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then it just feels like you're a
wind tunnel. Yeah, you just kind

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of yeah, and you don't have
a sense of like it's not like you're

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falling off a building where you're seeing
stuff relative height, you know, like

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right, it's just like the far
West getting closer. That is that when

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your terminal velocity, when feel that
point of floating. Yeah, okay,

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I'll tell you. The weirdest part
for me, so I went with my

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brother and my sister and my mom. The weirdest part was seeing other members

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of your family leave an aircraft.
You get the video and stuff and do

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like frame by frame and like up
there goes. You know, my girlfriend

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just fell out of that thing.
But the cool thing is that now you

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can say that you've taken off in
more planes than you've landed in m which

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is fun. Yeah, that's true. You should always do the video though.

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Yeah. Yeah, they have like
the wrist mounted stuff or whatever.

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So I've got like clips like my
sisters and my ex girlfriends and stuff,

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just like falling out of planes and
looking terrified. Yeah, it's pretty hilarious.

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But you guys have fun with that
highly recommended. Brad, you're gonna

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come enjoy it. You're coming,
Brad. I'm good right here. Jeff,

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can you be convinced? No?
No, no, Drew you out

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for it? Yeah? Okay,
sweet, he's already done it. Yeah,

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it doesn't count. We gotta bring
rookies in. Oh, Me and

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Jeff will just hang back and play
video games. That's right. I'm playing

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for the twenty six hundred. It's
basically the same thing. It's it's exactly

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the same experience, but with more
adrenaline. Yeah. Oh, Jeff,

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Hello, Hi, Hi, what
have you been playing? Oh? Well,

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have you been playing? Since we
last talked? I had played all

406
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of Destiny or the vast majority of
Destiny. I did that too. I

407
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:10.079
played Destiny until it said you can
see credits now if you like. Well,

408
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:11.519
that's right. They don't make you
see the credits. They just give

409
00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:15.079
me the option. And then played
a little bit more and wrote that review

410
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.160
and stuff. That's primarily I also
played a lot of Destiny. Yeah you

411
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:22.920
too, Yeah, yeah, how
far interview you guys? A little fifteen?

412
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:27.640
Okay, I hit so I just
got to Venus. Okay, that's

413
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:32.319
halfway point ish. I guess I'm
a few missions to Venus. Yeah,

414
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:34.319
I hit twenty last night. I
finished the story last night. Yeah,

415
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:40.839
I have begun these slow climb toward
getting enough gear to go see that raid

416
00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:42.039
that is. I really don't like
the way that they've built that stuff.

417
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:48.440
Yeah yeah, I mean the like
post twenty like hope you get some drops

418
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:55.319
end of Destiny. It seems really
it feels it feels very uh like I

419
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:59.799
almost want to call it antiquated,
Like it feels very like original Wow release,

420
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.160
like gear up in a tune for
these raids that even at max level

421
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:07.640
you have no hope of surviving in
unless you do all these other like required

422
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.079
things, right, Yeah, the
right gear or rent or whatever. It's

423
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.319
like you're basically grinding content you already
played over and over ad nauseum until you

424
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.079
get the required stuff to go see
this new content. Right, whether you're

425
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.960
you're grinding out currency to buy those
things from the shops or just hoping that

426
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.839
you get drops, right, Yeah, you're you're kind of either way.

427
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.319
So I I still I still have
three strikes I haven't done yet, so

428
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.599
like if that's new content, but
other than that, yeah, it's just

429
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.160
gonna be either playing Crucible, which
is you know, at least inherently repeatable

430
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.039
in that it's multiplayer that's that's accurate, or playing missions that I already played

431
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.799
in the course of doing the story. I think I would probably rather replay

432
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.480
missions than play the competitive end of
it. Yeah, I definitely. I

433
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.039
haven't really decided yet. I Mean
my experience so far is that getting the

434
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.759
gear you need has been easier in
the multiplayer, Like it's been dropping faster

435
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:56.640
from me there. Well, so
I'm not at twenty yet, so is

436
00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:03.240
the deal Like the XP bar is
just one after certain points based on gear,

437
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.240
so you still earn XP after twenty, but it doesn't go to a

438
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.720
level anymore. Every time you would
hit a new level after twenty, you

439
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.799
get what's called a mode of Light, which is just a different currency because

440
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.880
there are something like eighteen different currencies
in this game. That's the thing,

441
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.160
is I keep collecting all this stuff, you know, I'm picking up all

442
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.359
these weapon parts and these like spirit
blooms or whatever, and yeah, and

443
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:26.720
all this stuff weapon parts are used. You will find weapons later on in

444
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.680
the game, or the higher end
weapons that you know how you can buy

445
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.200
upgrades for some of them. Yeah, some of those upgrades will require weapon

446
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.160
parts in addition to money. It
just seems weird that I'm you know,

447
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:40.839
I'm level fifteen. That's not crazy
far. But I've played a lot and

448
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:42.920
I'm going to all these shops and
there's like usually one row of stuff where

449
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:45.400
I can buy stuff. It's either
gray or green, and you don't want

450
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.720
any of it, No, it's
all sucks. And then there's all this

451
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.119
other stuff that like I don't know
what this stuff is and I don't know

452
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:52.559
how to buy it. Yep,
you know, I always have zero on

453
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.599
the vanguard points. And like I've
been playing a lot of multiplayers, I'm

454
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.480
a crucible. Don't accrue those until
you hit level eighteen. Once you hit

455
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.599
level eighteen, you start accruing Vanguard
points and crusp points. Why, what's

456
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.880
the explanation for that. It's it's
completely opportunity in the beta. You actually

457
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.599
got them immediately. I don't know
what the fun the reason is for that.

458
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:10.920
It's been sane. That seems really
dumb. Yeah, I feel like

459
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.000
a lot of the progression and stuff
is well whatever. I think Destiny has

460
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.839
a ton of problems. I'm with
you and I at the same time,

461
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:21.599
I can't stop playing it. There
are very interesting things about that game,

462
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:23.119
and I think it is, you
know, a lot of the same way

463
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:26.640
we talked about Diablo three, but
I think less, so I think Diablo

464
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.480
three is better. It is a
podcast game. It is a It is

465
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.000
a voice chat. Get together with
your friends and you're just having a conversation

466
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.200
and you happen to be doing this
mindless shooting task along the way, Like,

467
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.960
oh, well, we're playing the
strike that we've done eight times already,

468
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:42.920
so we know exactly what's going to
spawn, where and when, so

469
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.720
we barely have to think about killing
it and we could just like chat about

470
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:52.079
our day at the same time.
Yeah, I'm playing it the exact opposite.

471
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.640
I am fully in paying attention to
the game, and I'm playing by

472
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.799
myself. Really, yeah, are
you liking it? Yes? And I

473
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:07.279
think number one, I think I
have a high tolerance for repetition and slow

474
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:15.079
things. But also I think once
you get a sense of like how like

475
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:22.680
the game's scope, every little change, like a different weapon or something,

476
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:27.720
becomes a big change. So that
if you kind of if you if you're

477
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:32.720
playing, if if you feel good
about the game, and then get to

478
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:37.839
a point where you unlock something,
it's exciting, no matter how small in

479
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:38.960
the grand scheme is Yeah, I
mean you get used to the set of

480
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:41.599
weapons you have and then it's like, oh I got an auto rifle with

481
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.599
this and this and it has twenty
extra points of damage like that. Yeah,

482
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.559
it is awesome and it's real pretty. Yes, it is a really

483
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:53.119
nice looking game. The art is
fantastic. I ended up because it was

484
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.640
the one version they didn't send it
to us. I went in and picked

485
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.759
up the Xbox One version of the
game to give that a look, which,

486
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.519
I is, have you been playing
on that Xbox One? Looks fine?

487
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.640
Looks right there with PS four like
it doesn't you know obviously wouldn't wouldn't

488
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:12.000
have a huge difference, but but
yeah, uh I got to play level

489
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:17.039
eight on that, and then we
played a little bit of PS three as

490
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:21.079
well. Do you summon your ghost
without the track pad? The back button

491
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.200
or whatever they call it? Now, that's one I at least everything about

492
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.079
the Xbox that it's options and menu. No, no, no, it's

493
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.680
options. On PS four, that's
it's options and Sarah on play states menu

494
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.720
and something else on Xbox two squares
on top of each other. Yeah,

495
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.640
I still don't know what that button
is called. I mean this yeah,

496
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.279
this generation gave us the death of
a start button. Yeah, I got

497
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.400
plus in minus on will you Oh
that's right? Actually, well I think

498
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.359
didn't they put start back on all
the in addition to plus and minus.

499
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.880
I don't know the three DS has
started. It's all needless change for the

500
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.519
sake of change. I don't like
it. You know, we got to

501
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:57.519
a point where it's like, why
hit start? I mean you just hit

502
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.799
A or I guess X or you
know whatever. It's something to pause with.

503
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.400
Then they should have a pause button. That does bug me about.

504
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.319
Destiny is not ever being able to
pause, and it's a nonline game that's

505
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.400
you can't pause in World of Warcraft
either. That doesn't make it right,

506
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.200
but that's that's where they're coming from
with it. At least. Yeah,

507
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.200
you know, just kill everything around
you and then go find a corner.

508
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.960
Yeah, or back up twenty feet
because the game has really harsh or like

509
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.680
agro tethers or whatever. When the
guys will run back and reset. That's

510
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.640
fine. If I need to go
to the bathroom and I can kind of

511
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.319
like figure out like, oh,
okay, I'll wait until I get to

512
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:30.839
a place I can stop, and
then I'll go to the bathroom. But

513
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.680
if the doorbell's ringing and there's a
pizza there, it's like, well,

514
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:36.559
I can't just wait thirty seconds something
important like a pizza coming, yes,

515
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:40.920
don't plays Yeah, but also a
worry about that pizza. Even even the

516
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.079
strikes, unless you're doing really badly, aren't more than twenty thirty minutes,

517
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.160
Like nothing is Nothing is a huge
commitment in that game, as I found,

518
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:52.920
I got to a point I was
really enjoying everything about the game,

519
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.200
and then at a certain point their
style of storytelling kind of caught up with

520
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.680
me. I think it's about halfway
their venus where I was just like,

521
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.519
I am killing robot after robot after
robot, and then you're scanning something.

522
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.160
You're telling me the Vex are especially
bad, but you're not really explaining why.

523
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.839
And it's not because shoot them in
the stomach instead of the head,

524
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:15.240
right, that's it gets them somehow
more evil. They have a confusing weak

525
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.799
point. That's why they're such a
galactic scourge. Yeah, oh no,

526
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.039
the Vex. Right, But you
know, they start I won't spoil anything

527
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:24.119
major, but like you know,
they start laying out, here's what you

528
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.599
need to do to make things better, and they don't really say why and

529
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.000
who who the people are? They're
telling you this is of little consequence.

530
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.400
Yeah, it's it's And then you
want to believe that they have written out

531
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.880
well fleshed out things in the lore
for all these different factions they because that's

532
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.799
you expect Bungee Games to help that. They definitely have, because all the

533
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.079
grim Ore cars on the website have
all that lore and none of that's that

534
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:50.119
long though, well it's not,
but it does make the paragraph right,

535
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.240
but it's not. It does give
things more context though, like it makes

536
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.440
you like it. It explains who
the awoken are when you finally go and

537
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.759
meet them, you know where they
came from and why they are the way

538
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:00.000
they are and stuff like that.
Yeah, but instead you just get stuff

539
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.799
like we need to go kill the
kel, right, Like what's a kiss?

540
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:06.480
What's the kell? So like,
shut up, just go kill just

541
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.160
shut up. So apparently the fallen
the way apparently the fallen are called the

542
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:15.400
fallen because they're they they are of
an alien society that was once like you

543
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.240
know, like solely focused on honor
and family structure. And they are all

544
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:23.680
from different houses, you know,
okay in the in the traditional sense of

545
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:28.880
like in a house is a very
large organization. Yeah, so that's why

546
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:30.920
you go, like to the house
of Winner to kill their kell, because

547
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:31.960
the kell is But how the fun
do you know about any of that stuff?

548
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.559
Like, yeah, how is that
doll? Mean you don't and it

549
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.200
doesn't matter. That's that they they
have. They have fucked it up on

550
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.920
two fronts. They by not explaining
it, and also even if they did

551
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.960
explain it, who cares, Right, Well, it seems like it's sort

552
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.839
of stuff where like at the bare
minimum, though, they should have put

553
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:52.039
a mass effect style codex in the
game that had that information there, just

554
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.319
to be able to read it all
in the game. Just a terminal in

555
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:58.279
the town they can run up to
and look at your ship. I mean,

556
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.039
they wrote it. The text exists. Text exists, it's just not

557
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.960
available in the games. Build a
fucking robot that you can walk up to

558
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.200
and then hit X on the robot
and then the robot says, here's your

559
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.599
cards. Do you want to read
them or what? Right? But I

560
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.119
have to disagree with you though when
you say who cares? Like I would

561
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.920
care if they made it more clear
why everything matters? You know what I

562
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:17.840
want to know. That's the thing
that I wouldn't reddle the cards. It

563
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.239
didn't help. It didn't make me
go like oh yeah, like you know,

564
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.599
it was one of those things where
it was somehow even more frustrating because

565
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:28.079
it's like this is still like two
paragraphs, like what is this? Is

566
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.480
there a novel that came out before
the game? No? No, No,

567
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.400
that was their mistake, see that
all this information would have been out

568
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.880
there. Yeah, at least a
graphic novel. Come on. It seems

569
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.000
like there were always defenders of like
any game lare even if it's like you

570
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.000
know, the Gears of War as
a stupid ass story, and there are

571
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.599
people that just like love the Gears
of War lore. Sure, and I'm

572
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.119
super surprised that no one is defending
this. Like I put out a tweet

573
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.920
over the weekend about Destiny's narrative just
being super stupid, and not one person

574
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.360
disagree, like normally any other games. I like the world they've created.

575
00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:00.159
I like the idea. It's the
story that, like the narrative stress the

576
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.400
events, the events that the events
that transpire in Destiny the video game are

577
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.599
convoluted and like barely coherent. Also
to that point, though, I'm not

578
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:12.239
hearing anyone saying that this world is
stupid, right, No, I mean

579
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:16.760
I like that the aliens there's there's
it's a nice looking thing, like conceptually

580
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.199
at a top level, you're like, okay, well you know, I

581
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.840
mean at his top level, it's
like, well, humanity is up against

582
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.760
it and there are multiple alien races
vying to take them out. But I

583
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:29.639
love I love the idea that it's
set in our solar system. Yeah,

584
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.920
I think even that humanity has been
beaten back to the last corner of Earth

585
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.159
because like, yeah, there's neat
stuff like at the top level because like

586
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:37.679
how often in Star Trek do they
ever go back to Earth? Like almost

587
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.960
never, and when they do,
it's awesome. Yeah, it's always fucking

588
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:43.480
crazy. Like my favorite mission,
or one of my favorite missions of the

589
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:45.079
First Mass Effect, which is weird
to say because it was like a throwaway

590
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.480
games, but it was awesome.
You went to the Moon. You went

591
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.000
fucking Moon and I was like,
holy shit, I'm on the Moon.

592
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.000
Yeah, just like where are those
astronauts walked that one time? Like like

593
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:58.840
you don't get a lot of that
in sci fi space games, you know,

594
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.800
so to set the entire thing there, even if you know, even

595
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.559
if they contrived, like oh,
the Traveler just terraformed all the planets.

596
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.559
That's why you're able to like grow
farms on Venus now, Yeah, like

597
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.239
it's all ultimately kind of similar terrain
with different color schemes, but still the

598
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.079
Venus. Yeah. The idea that
you are on these familiar locations and stuff

599
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:20.960
like gives it a groundedness that I've
found like really appealing and stuff. Before

600
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:22.800
the game came out, I thought
that it would all like I didn't have

601
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.840
a good sense of like how everything
fit together and all the art and everything

602
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:30.360
in the vague sense of the story
that I got was all very disjointed,

603
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.239
and I thought it would kind of
persist like that. But actually, like

604
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.559
playing I don't know, maybe ten
hours of it so far, it all

605
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:42.320
seems like a nice cohesive world that
I like being in. It's just not

606
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.599
much is happening in it, right, It's and that's that's the biggest problem.

607
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:51.719
Is it like every character at every
turn, Yeah, exactly where's your

608
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.559
commander keys? Like, where's where's
the just the bit part military player.

609
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.000
Yeah, so they kind of throw
a little hail Mary towards the end.

610
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:00.400
I mean, I think you saw
in the quick click where there is there

611
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.559
are a couple cut scenes towards the
end where a couple of characters they never

612
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.800
even name are introduced very briefly.
But yeah, there's there's very little,

613
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.400
like dramatic stuff going on. Every
once in a while, there will be

614
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:14.840
a mission that does something different than
just run here and then scam something and

615
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:17.000
then mission complete, like I just
did one last night on Venus where you're

616
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.679
storming this just giant alien ship and
then I mean it's cool, like it's

617
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.000
it's a huge, like kind of
set piece moment. And then at the

618
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:27.159
end, you you fight like a
very defined, like boss type character and

619
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.480
it's it's more than night. That's
slightly larger than the other nights. I

620
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:32.039
know she didn't, I know,
but it was like definitely, like this

621
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.519
is the guy you're coming after.
It's not just scan this thing and shoot

622
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.039
waves until we tell you. It's
like, it's like, here's a guy.

623
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:39.480
He needs to die. I felt
like I was doing something like storm

624
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:43.960
the ship, kill this dude,
not just wait around until Peter Dinklin gets

625
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.719
board. Sometimes they do give gravitas
to a certain mission. It's like,

626
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:53.320
oh man, this thing has not
been around for millennia and you woke it

627
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.639
up and then it's memories tilled you
go to this place and this is a

628
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.199
big deal. But like they just
barely mentioned that. Yeah, and you're

629
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:05.880
supposed to remember that, and they
don't hammer at home, like like the

630
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.880
ghost isn't telling you multiple times why
this is significant. Like like many things

631
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.400
with Destiny, they sort of sort
they're going in the right direction with it,

632
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:15.400
they just don't go all the way. Yeah, you know, like

633
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.639
it needed more of those side missions
with the game with with missed opportunity at

634
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.039
every single turn. Yeah, you
know, like the it's combat, but

635
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:27.039
it's it's combat that is in service
of kind of nothing. It's like these

636
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:31.079
amazing environments that you end up like
running through the same areas like too too

637
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:37.639
many times per environment. Right,
just spawned you in at different parts.

638
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:42.000
Yeah, that you've done so much
help not starting at the exact same spawn

639
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.840
point every single time you hit him
map. Yeah, that that that actually

640
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.159
would have helped. There was there
was another side mission I did on Venus

641
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:51.440
that similarly like gave you an objective. I think it's the one where you're

642
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.719
trying to reclaim the academy. If
that shocks somebody's memory, you you end

643
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.360
up just going underground into this facility
that's like been dark because nobody's been there

644
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.800
for centuries or whatever. But it's
a process of going in when it's dark

645
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.639
and like turning the lights back on, and you know, you have to

646
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.639
fight ways of enemies that show up
as you're doing this. But it's a

647
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:09.400
it's a place that you only go
for that one mission and then you never

648
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.360
see it again. And I was
like that felt unique and it had some

649
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.320
sense of history to it, you
know, where you're saying, this is

650
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:19.119
this old academy that has all this
kind of stored knowledge you need to reclaim,

651
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.800
you know, like giving some kind
of like world based or fiction based

652
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.480
like reason to do what you're doing
and showing you something new like that went

653
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.480
a long way after I had been
doing the same mission, you know,

654
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.199
three or four times in a row, even if it's silly, right and

655
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:34.039
like flimsy, there wasn't that much
to it, but by comparison, it

656
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.199
was like, this is like a
revelation and like from a gameplay, like

657
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:38.880
just a level design perspective, like
when I got there the first time,

658
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:42.079
I was like, oh, okay, there'll be some variety to this game.

659
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:44.320
This one's kind of corny, but
maybe they'll you know, maybe they'll

660
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:45.599
have some cooler other stuff. And
then you get to the end of the

661
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:47.960
game and realize, like, no, the Sword mission is the only one

662
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:54.000
right right that has anything like large, like dramatically different that I just did

663
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:58.320
that one. I was like,
oh, this is great, neat change

664
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.920
of pace. Yeah, I would
take is there on Reel's part? Nope,

665
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:07.159
Nope, to know like Halo type
thing where you're like escape of blowing

666
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.960
up thing. I do think the
last mission is sort of cool, Like

667
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:16.320
visually, I won't say much more
about it, like the final confrontation.

668
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:20.960
Well, everything in the last twenty
thirty minutes of that last mission looks different

669
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.559
and interesting. There's some there's yeah, I'm but at the statistically there's some

670
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.199
really great looking stuff. But the
whole time I was there, I was

671
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.239
like, how did I get here? And why am I here? And

672
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.320
what is it I'm doing? Like
yeah, it's just it's just also vague,

673
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:35.519
you know, like getting to Mars
was. I think getting to Mars

674
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:38.800
was when I finally gave up on
that stuff because I was like, Okay,

675
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:40.800
Mars is where it all began.
It's where they found the Traveler.

676
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.559
It's where they say I need to
go to fix things, Like, surely

677
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:45.440
I'll get here. There will be
a cut scene, they're gonna fill some

678
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:50.280
details in, and you get there
and they just tell you to go off

679
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.559
on a fetch quest without telling you
why or what it is you need to

680
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.880
get. And also, by the
way, here's this whole new faction called

681
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.440
the Cabal that we've never introduced that
are kind of the most interesting look rights

682
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.960
in the entire game. And also
Cabal implies some kind of organization behind these

683
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.599
dudes, like who are they and
what are they doing? But like they

684
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.559
never even take two lines of dialogue
to explain, like, Oh, these

685
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:12.239
are the guys you're up against now
right, here's why you're fighting them,

686
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.079
here's why they're extra bads. You
need to fight the cabal. It's like,

687
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.559
okay, well, yeah, it's
yeah. It just it just feels

688
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:22.960
disjointed, Like it seemed like there
was so much there and it doesn't doesn't

689
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:24.039
all get filled. It seems like
a game that at some point they went

690
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:30.000
like, we gotta ship this fucking
thing. Start cutting. Maybe maybe it's

691
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.159
hard to you know, speculate too
much about that stuff, but yeah,

692
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.039
but at the same time, yeah, I'm with you, Drew, Like

693
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.559
I like the way it plays so
far much. I want to play more

694
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.119
of it, but I'm thinking about
it right now, want to go home

695
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:44.159
and like just run something strikes Like, I'm kind of with you, you

696
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.280
know, I think the combat in
that game is interesting, and the weapons

697
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:51.360
themselves are are are pretty good,
but there's just such a little variety between

698
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.960
them that that's kind of ruined it
for me. It's like there are four

699
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:59.639
primary weapons game and you end up
with kind of you know, like they

700
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:04.559
s around the sliders on the weapons
a little bit. Okay, well I'll

701
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.400
end up with an auto rifle that
isn't very stable, so it kicks up

702
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:08.719
a little bit more. But it's
either you get one that does or doesn't.

703
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.440
And that's the machine guns kind of
the same way. Either you get

704
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.440
one that is accurate enough for you
to do dirt with or one that's all

705
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:21.440
over the place and you're like,
well, fuck this thing. And you

706
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:23.800
know, I didn't necessarily want to
just use an auto rifle in that game.

707
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:27.760
I use those a lot in shooters
and stuff, and you know,

708
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.599
I thought the hand cannon was fine
and all the other stuff, but the

709
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.960
drops and the damage numbers dictated that
I was going to be shooting an auto

710
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.519
rifle for the large part of that
game. I guess. I guess that

711
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.679
means it's truly random, because I
actually did not get a decent auto rifle

712
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:43.960
until level nineteen. I'm I'm not
saying that like that's that's everyone's experience,

713
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:45.239
but I think it's just it's the
case that I kind of no matter what,

714
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.239
like there are four weapons. Well
that's what I'm saying, Like,

715
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.480
yeah, like I did I couldn't
use the auto rifles because I find what

716
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:57.159
three secondaries? Yeah, yeah,
I'm pretty happy with the amount of variation

717
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.239
in the firing characteristics, and you
know, between those and the unlockable kind

718
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:06.039
of secondary abilities, I felt that
stuff was really really weak. Sometimes you'll

719
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:07.800
once in a while you'll get something
like I got I got a pulse rifle

720
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.760
at one point that A was a
blue and really powerful, but B had

721
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.039
a thing where it took a big
chunk off your grenade cool down with every

722
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.920
kill. Yeah, so I was
having greades available every twenty thirty seconds,

723
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.320
throwing grenades like a month. I'm
just maximizing grenade cool anything that has like

724
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:28.559
what is strength? No, yeah, discipline? Well yeah, I like,

725
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:30.679
I see where you're coming from.
But at a certain point, like

726
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:35.280
you'll start sacrificing better damage on weapons
to keep putting stuff into discipline. You

727
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.559
know, Yeah, if you're fine
with that, then that's fine. Yeah,

728
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:38.760
you know, I guess, I
guess it's cool that it allows for

729
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:43.159
that. But yeah, if you
were just a slave to the damage numbers,

730
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:45.119
it does, you know, it
does dictate how you play a lot

731
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.320
by just what you've got. I
just didn't have I didn't have any characteristics

732
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:50.360
that mattered enough for me to want
to keep. Yeah, you know,

733
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.199
at the end of it, like
it was just sort of the you know,

734
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.280
there's one gun I ended up with
that is a pulse rifle that you

735
00:43:55.320 --> 00:44:00.000
get the unlockable stat of ken fire
in full automotive, and that's on multip

736
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.519
full pulse rifles. It's not just
yeah, okay, I've got that now.

737
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.920
That just got the first one that
has that. That's something you can

738
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:07.639
toggle on and off. Nope,
or it just becomes an auto rize.

739
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.039
So it's not an auto rifle.
It's it's basically multiple bursts, says you

740
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.559
hold down the trigger. Yes,
so it's still a burst rifle. It's

741
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:20.639
just auto firing the bursts, which
is not Actually it doesn't seem like that

742
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:24.159
would help. So Yeah, So
that that was the most dramatic, like

743
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:31.280
this thing behaves differently, thing like
that. That that one thing is probably

744
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:36.039
the closest they get to the like
the borderland system flute. Yeah, where

745
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.519
the guns and borderlands can be completely
batshit crazy, right, And I guess

746
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:42.039
I don't want them to go that
far because I think they need to keep

747
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.079
it grounded within their fiction. And
that makes sense that you know, weapons

748
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:46.519
fire a certain way because that's the
most effective way for them to fire.

749
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:52.079
But it needs more than it has. Yeah, they need they need to

750
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.000
find a middle ground on some of
that stuff because like, oh, I

751
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:59.599
reloaded the gun and well it vanished
to cram one more bullet in the magazine

752
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.280
this time, Like that's not barely
meaningful. I got one that was like

753
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:06.639
the bottom half of a magazine does
more damage than the top, and I

754
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:08.480
was like, that's cool, but
like that just means the numbers go up.

755
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.320
That doesn't you know, there's nothing
I don't feel it in the weapon,

756
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:19.800
Like firing a weapon should be awesome, and they they have a good

757
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.599
baseline experience for that stuff, but
the upper tier and even you know,

758
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.480
you go look at videos of people
firing exotics and stuff like that, you're

759
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:28.960
just like, this is the same
shit. Yeah, let's just a better

760
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.920
and more accurate powerful It's not like
you pull the trigger and like everyone around

761
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:36.119
me knows that I have something fucking
insane because listen to this thing or look

762
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.480
at the bullets coming out of this
like that's you know, if it goes

763
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:43.400
back to the very first time that
when I went to Bungee and they were

764
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.840
showing off the game. They are
actually not showing off the game, but

765
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:52.679
talking a lot about Paul McCartney.
Like the story they told was like one

766
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.360
of you know, and I've got
my gun, and he walks up and

767
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.159
sees that I have this gun.
It goes, that's a cool gun.

768
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.039
Where'd you get it? And we
have a conversation about the gun. That's

769
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:05.000
not possible because none of the guns
fucking matter, Yeah, you know kind

770
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.320
of. It's they they've failed to
differentiate those weapons in a meaningful way.

771
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:14.400
Uh And and that's that's my problem
with it, is because you're just you're

772
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.360
just on a difficulty ramp and you're
just equipping stuff to make sure the numbers

773
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.920
stay in line with the raising damage
and HP numbers of the enemies. And

774
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.760
then I got to twenty, I'm
like, I don't know that. I'm

775
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:29.280
yeah, you know, I still
I still have friends playing the game,

776
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:35.880
and I'll probably play with them some
here and there for kicks and stuff,

777
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:39.960
but like my own personal drive to
get beyond level twenty and see this other

778
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:44.960
content and stuff like that that they're
rolling out, uh, like between the

779
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:49.960
way they've built that content and kind
of just like the the nature of that

780
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.440
game, it's really not inspiring me
to want to touch it ever. Again.

781
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.719
Sure, yeah, that's valid.
It seems like a lot of people

782
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:57.960
are going that way. Yeah,
but a lot of other people are leaning

783
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.679
towards you know, it's just it's
a fun game to just kick back and

784
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:04.679
play. And yeah, and but
I'll probably do some of that, you

785
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:08.239
know. We we've got a little
time here before something else big and reviewee

786
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:12.519
comes out, so like I'll kind
of fiddle with it here and there and

787
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.840
in my spare time maybe, But
yeah, I don't know. It's it's

788
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:20.519
not necessarily going to do the daily
story mission. No, probably not.

789
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.519
It's it's it's just like, overall, I think that thing's just incredibly disappointing.

790
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:28.559
Yeah, and that's that's something I
think is separate from a review.

791
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:31.360
You know, I don't think that's
necessarily fair to weigh against the game.

792
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.960
But when you look at the expectations, and you look at the game they

793
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:38.719
were talking about, and you look
at kind of what what they were capable

794
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:43.400
of in the past and all that
stuff, everything that Bungee theoretically could bring

795
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:47.639
to bear on a new ip on
a on a first person shooter, on

796
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:52.360
a something that is taking these online
things that you know, Halo didn't necessarily

797
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:59.440
tap into. It just feels like
they've bungled the vast majority of those in

798
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:00.480
a way that you go like,
well, you know, you could turn

799
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.280
this around, whether it's with a
second game or you know, I mean,

800
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:06.679
obviously they're going to keep working on
it and keep you know, making

801
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.599
changes and making updates and stuff like, it's one of the things you look

802
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:13.440
at and go, they could eventually
get there. But in terms of just

803
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.039
like I feel like, you know, I'm not even like a necessarily huge

804
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:21.639
Bungee fan, but I respect what
they do. I respect the worlds they've

805
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.519
created, I respect kind of how
they approached that aspect of game development,

806
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.920
and I feel like none of that
shows here in a meaningful way. You

807
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:37.000
know, their logo looks like Bungle
exactly, yeahoo follow the money man.

808
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.480
Well it's yeah, and it's just
I don't know, like it just feels,

809
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:43.159
like I said, I missed opportunity
all around. It was really interesting

810
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:47.079
to me to see like the reactions
to this, and maybe it's because you

811
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:51.679
know the way they kind of didn't
let people play it early for review purposes

812
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.679
or something like people had already played
a chunk of the game, so we

813
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.880
kind of skipped the early part where
people hadn't picked up their pre orders yet

814
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:01.039
and they were very angry that reviews
were middling. But the reaction I've I've

815
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:04.559
seen from this, like I was
kind of expecting there to be you know,

816
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:08.320
it's like there's a there's a an
ardent, very diehard Bungee fan out

817
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:12.960
there, you know, like those
people exist, and you would expect them

818
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:14.760
to kind of come out of the
woodwork on something like this, and they're

819
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.880
not. And more than anything,
I've gotten reactions from people that have been

820
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.840
like very measured and saying like,
well, I think I like this game

821
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:24.719
more than you do, but I
cannot disagree with anything you're saying about it

822
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:29.159
pretty much where I'm at, like, yeah, I am, I am

823
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.639
really really enjoying what I'm playing of
It's probably it's one of my favorite games

824
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:35.280
of the year, just because I
like playing what's there. Yeah. At

825
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.639
the same time, especially coming out
of the beta, like the beta was

826
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.960
that revelatory moment of like now I
know what this game is and you start

827
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.039
filling your head with ideas of what
it could be based on what you've already

828
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:46.920
seen. Well, I think I
came out of the beta going like,

829
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:50.440
boy, I hope the game is
more than that, right, right,

830
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:52.400
And then it kind of wasn't seeing
that one Earth map and thinking like there

831
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.320
must be a ton of these,
you know, like you're gonna go to

832
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.960
like every planet that is possible to
walk on. There are eight planets,

833
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.199
right, maybe not? You ask
plenty of moons? Yes, yes,

834
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:10.119
when you start throwing in like m
that stuff that wouldn't help. No,

835
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:13.960
more would not be help. Well, more would help once you get to

836
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:17.840
the end game and you need to
keep grinding gear more with yeah, with

837
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:20.760
with me, I mean yeah,
it would take better gear. It would

838
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:25.239
take like more care put into the
story around them area that wouldn't They wouldn't

839
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:29.599
totally fix what is lacking in the
game. But like if they put out

840
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.320
DLC and it's just like here's one
new area and one new area is worth

841
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.679
of content? Yeah not enough.
Yeah, there needs to be a like

842
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.159
a I feel like there needs this
game needs a direction change at this point

843
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.920
to kind of put it on track, Like if they really want to be

844
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:45.280
serious about this thing being the biggest
thing going in video games and this huge

845
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:47.599
tenure franchise, like all the other
stuff that they' talked about, all of

846
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:51.119
this stuff that Activiss talked about.
You think you hear the numbers get thrown

847
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.800
around, whether they're true or not, for marketing or not marketing and sold

848
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:59.159
in Yeah, sold in about you
know, probably sold I'm so I'm sure

849
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:01.400
it's selling out just fine too.
Yeah, because it's it's running damn near

850
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:07.760
on a post and it's not a
bad game. There are just unfortunate and

851
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:13.559
kind of bad things throughout it.
Uh yeah, man, it is just

852
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.760
a it is a mysterious game.
Like I just I play through it and

853
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.079
just go like, well, how
did this happen? Like how did this?

854
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.639
How did this particular game come to
be? Because you look at this

855
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.119
stuff and go like, it's it's
pretty apparent that like the story is barely

856
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.760
existent and and you know, the
mission design is is like highly repetitive and

857
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:35.119
that sort of stuff. You just
want what where did it all go?

858
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:40.039
Yeah? Did they underestimate content generation
on the new platforms later after we've done

859
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:44.440
the network code? Yeah? Maybe
yeah, maybe maybe they spent so much

860
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.639
time building the engine and throwing it
all away and building the engine again that

861
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:52.400
at some point it was like,
we can make four of these and that's

862
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:57.920
all we got time for. We'll
hope for the best man. But I

863
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.800
don't know, because I really like
the game. But yeah, it's making

864
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:04.320
me think of a bet, it's
it's reminding me what I imagined it to

865
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.719
be. I do too, I
will, I will eat up whatever content

866
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:09.639
they put out. I mean,
the deal is coming out soon. The

867
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:14.519
first first one's in December, yeah, second February. I think, probably

868
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:16.400
don't have a lot of time to
make adjustments there. But well, more

869
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:21.000
to the point, they're putting out
updates now, like they've been rolling out

870
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.519
like mechanical and fixes and mechanical updates
and fixes since like the day after launch

871
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:29.360
for two days after and then they
the first raid is up by the time

872
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.960
you hear this, which is a
six man thing at level twenty six,

873
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:36.920
Yes, six man thing, which
none of us probably will be seeing for

874
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.039
a while. Something to shoot for
them. Yeah, So I mean,

875
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:43.480
and they're doing their you know,
they had a unique multiplayer mode that was

876
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.559
only up over the weekend and has
gone now, so more of that stuff

877
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:50.440
will probably be having that that that
mysterious vendor showed up for a couple of

878
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:52.840
days and now he's gone. So
you know things will be evolving and stuff.

879
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.960
One more vendor that you can't buy
stuff. Stop saying that awesome.

880
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.400
Well it's uh, let's let's sit
back and take a little a little break

881
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:06.480
and I'll say this ponder. As
I was reviewing Destiny, at one point,

882
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.639
I thought to myself, Man,
I really wish I was playing Diablo

883
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:19.559
three, something I could not imagine
myself saying in twenty fourteen. Yeah about

884
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:22.400
video games. Yeah, I was
playing with a friend yesterday and we were

885
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:23.599
just talking about, like, while
we were playing Destiny, talking about just

886
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:27.880
how much better that lute system and
Diablo was. Diablo is just you feel

887
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.320
like you're making these huge steps forward
at the right increments and everything. And

888
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:31.760
at one point we were like,
wait, why aren't we just fucking playing

889
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:35.800
Diablo, Like, let's just play
Diablo. So when you say that you

890
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.000
play Destiny and it just makes you
want to play Diablo, what would you

891
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:42.159
say if I said it's the exact
opposite for me, it makes you not

892
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:44.760
want to play Diablo. Well,
no, I'm not saying that, Like

893
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.159
I would go sit down at Diablo
right now and think, man, I

894
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:52.360
should just go play Destiny. But
that's like a Destiny is the better playing

895
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:57.519
more like immediately satisfying lute game for
me right now, really like I enjoy

896
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.679
I enjoy the act of killing stuff
in Destiny more than I do and Diablo.

897
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.280
That makes sense. I mean,
there's it's a little more involved,

898
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.199
there's a little more blow gil I
guess is the right word. I mean,

899
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:08.119
I still have to aim and shoot
something, you know, yeah,

900
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:10.960
but I guess, like I think
my thing there is that like it's the

901
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.920
aiming is not difficult, like it's
not head shot, not stop, but

902
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:17.559
it's you know, it's fun to
hit that jump boost and go flying over

903
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.840
stuff and kind of get around corners, take a cover. You're worrying more

904
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.960
about the level. What's that You're
worrying more about the level of the monsters?

905
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:30.239
You mean the math layout? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

906
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:31.360
yeah, sure, yeah, you're
using the terrain, You're right, that's

907
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:36.039
I mean, I think those are
things that you are just different between a

908
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.159
first person shooter, right a top
Like if you stripped the loud out of

909
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.760
both of these games, like the
same would be true. It's it's more

910
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:44.880
about having fun playing the game,
you know, and some of that.

911
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:46.920
For me, that the best part
in Destiny is is when you have a

912
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:51.960
full game of people and you are
just rushing forward fucking shit up like that

913
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:54.239
is extremely fun and Destiny, yeah, that is. That is the best

914
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:58.519
Definity has to off totally, like
like playing the strikes on a high difficulty

915
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.239
or whatever, like it's you know, to coordinate a little bit, it's

916
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.719
or just all shoot at the head. I mean it's it's like yes and

917
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.679
no, right, I mean,
I'm really I'm so curious to see how

918
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:14.960
their raid uh stuff is designed,
like yeah, because I wonder I would

919
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.000
just wonder if it'll be dramatically different
from what they've had so far, specifically

920
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.679
because it's they're all six player,
you know, so is it just gonna

921
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:22.840
be six different people shooting the thing
in the head? Like I want to

922
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:25.760
see if the bosson counter stuff,
because it's supposedly it's all new stuff.

923
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.119
It's not like bosses that you've already
seen on a higher level or whatever.

924
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:35.599
It's supposedly like entirely new levels and
bosses and everything. But like I wonder

925
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:38.000
if there's you know, it's not
like this game has the Trinity or anything,

926
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:43.519
but doesn't require six players. Yes, okay, yes, well I

927
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:45.639
don't know that they would stop you
from going in with less. But this

928
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:50.599
sounds like it's so fucking hard.
But if everybody isn't properly geared and you

929
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:52.079
don't have enough people like and it
does not might as well but does not

930
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.840
have match makes right, So you
have to get people to go into friends.

931
00:55:55.760 --> 00:56:00.679
Does this game ever scale? No, well, I think based on

932
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:02.599
your party or your level or I
don't know about party. I know that,

933
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:05.719
like you know, because you go
into a mission and it says,

934
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.920
guessing these minions grow stronger. I
don't think because every story mission and everything

935
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:12.360
just says like or every mission before
you select, it says, this is

936
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:15.760
a level twenty two mission. Yeah, there's a level six mission. Okay,

937
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:17.800
so I can as a level nine
I can hang with the level ten

938
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:22.000
mission by myself. Yes, yeah, totally. But if I brought more

939
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:24.679
people in, it would be way
easy. Yes, because it would be

940
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:28.320
the same mission. I believe,
because I mean when you because you go

941
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:30.880
into a mission, you can pick
the difficulty level and if you bump it

942
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.880
up. The wording to Heroic,
The wording says there will be more enemies

943
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.199
and they will be more aggressive.
Okay, so I think that's how you

944
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.360
make it harder. I don't think
bringing extra people in it like automatically increases

945
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:43.480
the number of monsters or whatever.
But it's part of the part of this

946
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:49.719
feeling. Maybe that even the highest
default difficulty in Diablo, I think is

947
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:53.119
like piss easy. Uh yeah,
that that being expert. I think it's

948
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.679
what is a normal heart expert or
what's there at the beginning. Yeah,

949
00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:59.159
like I was playing Expert. I
got like around the end of act one,

950
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:01.559
and like I think I I died
to a nemesis once because those things

951
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:05.599
are super hard, and I think
I died once when I was kind of

952
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:07.519
half paying attention to the game.
But other than that, like it's just

953
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:08.840
kind of been a k wall.
Yeah, it's not a different man,

954
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:13.480
so like in that sense alone,
Like I actually die in Destiny occasionally,

955
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:15.280
and it's it's a little more demanding. At some point, I well,

956
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:21.360
you know, I haven't been playing
anything past level twenty that much, but

957
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.280
at some point in Destiny I kind
of stopped dying. Yeah, because it's

958
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:27.599
just like you just get a good
sense for like this is what I need

959
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.000
I need to back off. Sure, Well, I played through all of

960
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:32.599
Mars on hard stand behind this truck
like it because it got super easy.

961
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:35.880
I got a little over leveled for
stuff, and it was I put it

962
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.960
on hard. For the rest of
the game. I stayed pretty much underleveled

963
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:39.199
for stuff, and I wasn't doing
Like at one point I was like,

964
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:40.960
oh, I was like two levels
behind. I was like, well,

965
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:45.000
I'll go gain one level in something
else or a strike or whatever it was.

966
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.639
That's kind of the weird thing about
being able to level in multiplayer and

967
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.960
and you know, repeating strikes and
stuff like that. You know, I

968
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:53.599
like, I did the same strike
with you know, two different groups of

969
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.440
people. Yeah, I played a
few matches multiplayer in there, and then

970
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:00.119
all of a sudden I found myself
like three levels above the recommended levels for

971
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:07.159
the story missions I was on.
Also, I don't I don't know how

972
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:09.519
I feel about the multiplayer in that
game. I keep trying to like it.

973
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:13.800
I tried at one time and got
my Yes, that's the biggest problem

974
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.039
with it. But I keep trying
because my experience and other people's experience that

975
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:20.320
I've talked to you so far is
the best way to get the post level

976
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:22.760
twenty gear that you need to keep
leveling is to play the crucible stuff.

977
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:27.079
Well, is there any balancing that's
keeping like level twenty four twenty five guys

978
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.400
from being way overpowered most of the
most flatin the damage. Okay, but

979
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:35.280
I mean the building modes on Final
so far, they haven't turned on any

980
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.000
sort of Okay, well, I
noticed there's one on the crucible screen that

981
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.719
you can't select yet and on the
far right option. Yeah, that's just

982
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:44.880
is that that's not because somebody said
there is a mode in there, the

983
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:47.760
Key's Iron Brigade. It's the thing
they turned on during the beta. I

984
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:52.559
think they say it is keeping October. Yes, French Iron, Iron something

985
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:58.480
Iron whatever. There is a multiplayer
mode that will take the level differences into

986
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:01.400
account. So that's not. Everything
that they've put out on Final has just

987
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:06.280
been flattened. Yeah. So I
was playing the Xbox One version and I

988
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:07.119
went and played some of that,
and I was like level six and I

989
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.960
was killing level twenty four guys Like
that's not you know, and they don't

990
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:14.599
have like their super advanced abilities or
whatever they do, so they that is

991
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:15.280
the sort of thing is like,
you know, if you haven't, if

992
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:19.320
you haven't unlocked like the melee attack
or something like that, you know you

993
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.119
you won't have it, but like
super charge thing or whatever. Yeah,

994
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:23.840
but I don't think you can even
get into the Crucible until you're of a

995
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:28.000
of like level five or something.
You don't have that stuff. Okay,

996
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:30.280
yeah, yeah, you've got the
basics, but you know, like your

997
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:37.400
weapon characteristics come in any any unique
stuff on like reloads or effects. There

998
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:40.400
are differences between the characters, but
not in terms of just like but also

999
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:43.920
like you know, like you're not
invincible in that game, like you you

1000
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:45.679
know, at level twenty, you
know, fighting level six monsters like they

1001
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:50.199
still do damage. They don't if
you just stood there in front of them,

1002
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.280
like they would kill you. It's
not like wow, where all the

1003
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:55.119
level enemies just miss you or right, yeah you still take yeah yeah,

1004
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:58.199
but yeah, Drew, I'm with
you. The first match I played at

1005
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:00.679
that game made me think I never
wanted to play the Cruise again. Yeah,

1006
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:04.880
like I had the worst fucking experience
I've been getting. I've been getting

1007
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.079
better at it, but it hasn't
necessarily made me want to play more.

1008
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:09.000
Yeah, I'm kind of with you, Like I had the last couple of

1009
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:15.039
matches I played. Uh, well, depends on which mode. Like I'm

1010
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:20.880
playing Control Control, it is very
long forever Control Control is easily like a

1011
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:22.039
ten plus minute thing. I don't
know what the timer is on it,

1012
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:28.400
but I want to say fifteen.
But the the just the DEATHMATCHI ones are

1013
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:32.760
way shorter. But yeah, for
me, Yeah, I've been getting a

1014
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:35.719
little bit better, you know,
I have to start finishing more kind of

1015
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:39.159
like middle of the scoreboard, let's
post with the bottom. But the number

1016
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:44.119
of ways that you can get one
shotted by things in that game fucking staggering.

1017
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:47.840
Yeah, like people's special ability shotguns, sniper rifles, fusion rifles,

1018
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:52.760
like certain grenades, Like it feels
like there are so many like rocket launchers,

1019
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:54.440
melee will kick the shit out melee
if it's charged. Like there are

1020
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:58.199
so many ways you can round a
corner and be killed in one hit by

1021
01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:01.280
something that it becomes like you started, I started feeling helpless at a certain

1022
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:05.880
point. And yet you know,
like if you're not using anything out of

1023
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:09.159
the ordinary, it still takes like
a full mass from an auto rifle right

1024
01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:12.800
into someone's head to kill them.
So that's where it broke down for me

1025
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:15.559
was I went in like I really
liked pulse rifles. I was getting a

1026
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:16.760
lot of good ones in the in
the story stuff, so that's just happened

1027
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.360
to be what I was using.
And it's yeah, it was like damn

1028
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:23.000
near impossible to kill anybody who was
moving around properly because if you miss,

1029
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.360
like one burst on that thing,
you have to reload and then they kill

1030
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:30.760
you. It's a weird thing because
the weapons that are good or the most

1031
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:36.119
fun on the PV side maybe are
not the best for killing people in multiplayer.

1032
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:38.199
Yeah, I found myself only really
having success with the auto rifle.

1033
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:42.360
Auto rifle by far has been the
easiest to kill people with. For me.

1034
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:45.400
The Scott rifle is okay because it
kind of reminds me of like the

1035
01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:49.679
DMR or the battle rifle. Yeah
it feels just like that stuff. But

1036
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:52.800
yeah, like it leads you keeping
one of every type of weapon in your

1037
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:57.000
inventory, even if they're like like
I went, like I said, I

1038
01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:00.400
went levels and levels without a good
auto rifle in story. I didn't find

1039
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:01.679
a green shotgun until I was like
level ninth, right, But you still

1040
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:05.239
hang on to that stuff because you
need it for a multiplayer because some weapons

1041
01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:08.280
are just inherently easier to use there. It's a weird system, ye,

1042
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:14.320
having the gear sort of come in
and sort of not. But like I

1043
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:16.920
said, I've been getting like,
after six or eight matches of the of

1044
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:20.639
the Crucible, I've gotten enough gear
to almost be level twenty one. So

1045
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.960
yeah, so Drew, you don't
feel like the Halo multiplayer has trained you

1046
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:28.880
for for this? Does it feel
different enough to where it it's not h

1047
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:35.400
Well, yeah, my my experience
would indicate that I think I'm pretty good

1048
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:37.480
at controlling it and moving around the
map and stuff, because do you think

1049
01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:40.480
it feels the same. It feels
like Halo to me. Yeah. The

1050
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:44.840
movement not exactly the same, though
very similar. The jumps are similar,

1051
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:49.960
the you know, does not feel
like I did. But I think maybe

1052
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.320
you just have to play it differently
from Halo. Uh, you know,

1053
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:58.639
maybe not rely so much on guns
because Halo was all about guns and the

1054
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:02.320
map size is pretty Yeah, yeah, that much. I don't feel like

1055
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:06.679
there are nearly as many open spaces
as there weren't Halo. That's true.

1056
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:12.079
It's a lot more alleyways and hallways
and lots of things extract obstructing line of

1057
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:15.199
sight, right and stuff like that. Yeah, it just feels balanced differently.

1058
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:17.440
Like you said, you know,
like you can't use your side arm

1059
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:22.239
type stuff as much because you'll just
get wasted by whatever power they have charged

1060
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.280
up at the moment. Right.
So yeah, the tactical decisions you're making,

1061
01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:31.519
yeah, if you still have like
holdover from Halo are going to be

1062
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:35.320
incorrect. See, you just have
to think retrain yourself. It seems a

1063
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:37.079
lot I'm it seems a lot more
based on burst damage and stuff like that.

1064
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:39.960
Yeah, I mean that's it's not
like you can't get better at it

1065
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:44.800
if you right put enough time into
it. But if you want to put

1066
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.639
enough time into it is probably the
big question for most people. Yeah,

1067
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:52.280
but anyway, Yeah, it'd be
interesting to check back in with that game

1068
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:57.119
every couple of weeks see what if
anything they've added or changed. I guess,

1069
01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:59.679
like, you know, it seems
like their their rollout plan has been

1070
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:01.159
like they kind of said, hey, this is coming to September, this

1071
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:05.480
is coming October. Yeah, but
it's like it's a playlist for competitive multiplayers.

1072
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:09.079
It's not that different, you know, like some of it is more

1073
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:12.360
important than others. They put it
at raid is obviously right. Yeah,

1074
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:15.079
they put out an event schedule.
It was like four events in September.

1075
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.440
It was that Salvage mode that came
and went, which I played a little

1076
01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:20.880
bit of that, The Raids coming
out this week, and there's two more

1077
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.679
things in September, and they didn't
have descriptions on those, but they had

1078
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:27.360
different icons. One of them had
a yellow icon, the other one had

1079
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:29.960
a red icon, which is probably
more crucible. Yeah, but I don't

1080
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:31.079
know what the other thing was.
There was a Queen of something was what

1081
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:35.920
they called, right, that's the
she's a character. Yeah, yeah,

1082
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:39.039
she's in one of the cut scenes, but I don't know what that would

1083
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:43.519
be game wise anyway. Yeah,
curious see how they take all the feedback

1084
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:47.159
into effect. You know, there
is a really strong foundation there if they,

1085
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:50.159
you know, take it where it
needs to go. Yeah, So

1086
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:55.440
it was that. That was pretty
much your week for games. Yeah.

1087
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:58.599
Yeah. I ended up devoting a
ton of time to that, and then

1088
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:00.400
I was out of town over the
weekend and so I didn't really get too

1089
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:04.360
much time to play much else.
Cool. How's your deck? It's good.

1090
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:12.880
I got a super rare pro Cody
Rhodes that I'm now leveling up mustache

1091
01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:17.880
Cody Roads face mask. Yeah,
wow, mustache. So I'm leveling him

1092
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:21.480
up. And then I have two
super rare Vince mcmah I'm sorry, mister

1093
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:26.199
McMahon's, and I thought, what
the card says, Yes, mister mister

1094
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:29.239
mcmon is the character if Vince McMahon
is the man. Okay, yeah,

1095
01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:30.599
wait are you saying, like when
he's in the ring, he goes by

1096
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:34.360
mister McMahon. When he's on TV, like when he is said on Raw,

1097
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:38.639
he is mister McMahon. When he's
sitting in on like Investor, you

1098
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:41.760
know, stock shoulder things, that's
Vince mcmay. Yeah. Is that just

1099
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:45.199
a show of respect by the other
wrestlers, No, that's that's him branding

1100
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:48.199
his character. But that's how he's
he's seen as respected by all the wrestlers

1101
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:51.039
because he's the guy. Usually they
call him Vince because he's you know,

1102
01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:56.840
they still will call him Vince okay, but authoritatively, the character trademark is

1103
01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.400
mister mcmackons. The walk is so
good. It is so good when it

1104
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.119
was the last time he actually wrestled, though, see him punk. I

1105
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.400
want to say probably about two two
and a half years ago. Wait,

1106
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:09.639
isn't he old VNS? Yeah?
Yeah, it's like seventy what or sixty

1107
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:13.400
nine? Actually? Yeah, what's
wrestling in his late sixties And it was

1108
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:16.480
a fun match on that dude's cut
man. Yeah, just kick your fucking

1109
01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:20.119
ass. That's scary. I don't
want to run you too. I don't

1110
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:24.639
want to meet He was very pleasant
when I met him. He was super

1111
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:27.800
nice when I met him. Yeah, all right, he held the elevator

1112
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.400
door open for me. All right. So the dumb thing with the cards

1113
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:34.119
in that game is like you have
to feed other cards to your cards.

1114
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:39.199
So I'm getting mostly junk cards from
winning exhibition matches, and those go to

1115
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:43.480
feed these cards. It's a little
perverse. I think they're training. You're

1116
01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:49.599
training is the term. Mister McMahon
just munched on cards. Yeah. So

1117
01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:53.880
I have to level up both of
those mister McMahon's to their maximum level before

1118
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:58.239
I can combine them, and then
I must level up the combined card all

1119
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.159
over again to get the maximum stats
out of it. I can combine them

1120
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:03.480
at any time, but it would
have a lower theoretical maximum. It would

1121
01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:06.920
be a less useful card. We're
past the point of less useful cards.

1122
01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:11.920
My eyes are blazing over It's stupid, though, No, it's not fun.

1123
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.760
It's you know, I was in
an airport for an hour of this

1124
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:18.880
morning, you know, like it's
I suddenly feel way less of a sucker

1125
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:23.320
being into the destiny Luke Grind.
It's I mean, yeah, like it's

1126
01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:25.199
not you know, you're you're you
know, at the end of a match,

1127
01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:27.880
you get to pick two cards at
random, and they're usually just garbage

1128
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.320
that you're just then going and clicking
to make Cody Roads eat them. And

1129
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:38.159
yeah, it's it's something to do
when you're waiting for the thing you want

1130
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:41.280
to be doing to be ready for
you to do. You know. It's

1131
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:44.280
not like I'm not sitting here going
like this is a hot video game.

1132
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:49.280
It's like, this is a really
shitty part of this airport. They confiscated

1133
01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:53.159
my face soaked because it was over
three ounces. What a bunch of dicks.

1134
01:07:54.880 --> 01:08:00.039
Guess all feed this Heath Slater to
Natalia because that needs to be a

1135
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:03.559
higher level card. It's yeah,
it's it's it's barely a game, but

1136
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.920
if you need if you have an
incessant need to click on things, and

1137
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:10.880
a lot of people when you're getting
increasingly fed up with Twitter for just being

1138
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:13.760
like a waste of fucking time.
This is a waste of time that at

1139
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:17.479
least isn't like actively fucking abusing you
as you use it. Uh, well,

1140
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:21.199
maybe I shouldn't go that far,
because it is asking you to spend

1141
01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:25.560
money, or it is saying like, hey man, why don't you give

1142
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:28.960
us twenty five bucks and you could
buy up really high end card one card.

1143
01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:32.239
That's that's a lot for one card. It is a lot. That's

1144
01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:34.399
a lot of money for one card. Is a lot for one card.

1145
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:38.319
A pack of six cards that are
lower tier than the one you would be

1146
01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:42.279
guaranteed to get it for twenty if
you get an entire character makeover in five

1147
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:46.439
Doda for like ten bucks more than
that, that's yeah, but does do

1148
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.560
those? Is that on a card
that when you rotate you tilt your phone,

1149
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:53.920
the guy on the card moves a
little bit. No? Yeah,

1150
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:58.720
well then just looks like garbage to
me? Is ww Supercard a better game

1151
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.680
than Doda too? Yeah? Yeah, that doesn't work on me. It's

1152
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:10.039
freer, right, it's freeing.
It's it's better than actual wrestling, because

1153
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:15.239
that's so fucking bad. I have
two Alberto del Rio's in my deck.

1154
01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:20.720
He's not even with the company.
It's chaos. So the message remains for

1155
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:24.520
another week. Don't don't play that. Don't play that fucking thing, all

1156
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:27.880
right, you know the game whose
name I've already forgotten, But like,

1157
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:32.199
you know, you could do a
lot worse than to throw your lot in

1158
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:38.800
with w W Supercard. Alright,
it's a ringing endorsement, a ringing endorsement

1159
01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:41.000
of like, you probably don't play
it, but I don't know. Do

1160
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:44.840
you like to watch numbers go higher? Sometimes it's better at destiny than that.

1161
01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:48.319
You could just do that. Yeah, I tap that and started the

1162
01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:53.920
stop watching and watch it. Okay, where's our where's our mobile port of

1163
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:56.520
progress question? Yeah? Exactly.
Why doesn't that happened to yet? So

1164
01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:58.319
that I had that moment this morning, I was just like, I'm just

1165
01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:01.279
basically playing like a different type of
progress quest where I'm just tapping on these

1166
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:05.680
wrestlers. Then the cards dance around
and I'm skipping all that shit because who

1167
01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:09.359
fucking cares? There should be an
auto skip for that stuff. Just let

1168
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:12.159
me grind at the goddamn cards.
How is there not like the animation you

1169
01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:14.840
have the tech past, all the
stuff, oh like fire Emblem and Advanced

1170
01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:16.760
Wars. I always turn off the
like battle animations. Just show me if

1171
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:20.800
I want or not. Just hit
the numbers against the other numbers and tell

1172
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:24.279
me which one was bigger. The
other thing they do is it's the best

1173
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:26.560
out of three. You go through
three matches with your deck or whatever,

1174
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:28.479
and even if you win the first
two, it still makes you do the

1175
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:33.119
third, Yeah, which is really
stupid, you know, because you've you've

1176
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:35.800
already won. But I think at
some point they're like, well, you

1177
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:41.279
would get cards too fast if this
was all as fast as possible, and

1178
01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:43.680
maybe that would so let's make it
more of a pain in the ass.

1179
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:45.920
Yeah, that's that's my guess is
they said like, let's make it more

1180
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.840
of a pain in the ass,
and they've succeeded that things are pain in

1181
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:53.319
the ass. Well done. Two
k. Yeah, if you've got an

1182
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:58.600
hour to kill and you literally have
nothing better to do, it's a great

1183
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:03.760
way to get rid of an hour. I get right on that. So

1184
01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:06.720
is drinking. I should point out, Oh yeah, if you need to

1185
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:13.439
make an hour disappear, yeah,
or several several Yeah, actually, you

1186
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:15.239
know, it could be tricky if
you just need to make one hour disappear,

1187
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.880
drinking might not be the thing for
Keep turning up the bottle until there's

1188
01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:24.000
nothing in it. Yeah, keep
tapping the bottle could be fine until it

1189
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:29.039
until it appears to be empty.
Oh man for scandling, brad, Hi,

1190
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:32.560
did you plent anything besides destiny?
Oh face forever? How's that going?

1191
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:36.600
It's good? Yeah? I got
the daily challenge for el Rock.

1192
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:41.640
Okay, I'll complete. Does that
mean that you now own that character?

1193
01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:46.199
No? I just got a I
got a currency bonus for completing or for

1194
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:50.720
winning five matches with l Rock,
who was free last week. Have you

1195
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:57.000
put any money into it? Nope? Do you take I'm not going to.

1196
01:11:57.119 --> 01:11:59.640
You're not gonna become one of the
converted. No. I kind of

1197
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:05.880
like just uh doing the daily challenges
and getting the currency and then spending that

1198
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:12.279
currency on characters. Okay, that's
kind of my trajectory. Okay, So

1199
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:15.680
as as the free characters have been
cycling through, I'm determining which ones I

1200
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:18.600
like, which ones I don't.
I really liked out Rock, so I

1201
01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:21.880
might buy him because I have enough
currency to do so. Yeah, I

1202
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:26.960
wasn't even thinking about that it's the
league model where where the you're earning currency

1203
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:30.239
that you might actually spend on something
you need. Right, yeah, as

1204
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:33.359
opposed to you know, I'm not
hats. Yeah. Well more to the

1205
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:35.600
point, you don't have to buy
characters, so hats for your swords.

1206
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.640
The sword needs a hat on it, it does, man. Yeah,

1207
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:45.720
sword is extremely red. Hey two
dollars for it. I feel good about

1208
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:50.600
myself. Yep, all right,
Well do you ever want to hunt?

1209
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:55.640
I'm always there, I know,
although I've barely played since. I played

1210
01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:59.960
enough to get through our last recreational
match in the last weekend. That is

1211
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:04.960
its destiny, NonStop siren call.
So video games are back. Yeah,

1212
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:10.319
that's what I'm saying. Did that? I uh had people over for football

1213
01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:15.800
watching, made some carnetdas to put
on nachos, dual layer nachos. Who

1214
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:21.479
were you watching? I watched a
little bit of the Raiders okay game,

1215
01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:26.760
but then the main game, but
everybody came up before was Niners okay,

1216
01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:32.800
Bears. Oh the Bears win.
I saw Patrick getting getting very sucked.

1217
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:38.000
I saw Patrick getting very excited on
Twitter. Yeah, it's a race to

1218
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:42.359
the bottom. See, it didn't
even suck, didn't even suck because the

1219
01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:44.680
Niners lost. It was just a
bad game to bad game. Yeah,

1220
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:49.319
it happens. I think the Niners
got like one hundred and eighteen yards and

1221
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:56.399
penalties against them, so like the
Bears didn't win, it would be shocking.

1222
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:01.239
Yeah, it was football, but
the Natos were good good. I

1223
01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:08.279
also went to a whiskey tasting almost
by accident, Saint George's and Alameda Awesome.

1224
01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:13.359
Their warehouse or that they do all
they're distilling in and the tasting is

1225
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:16.399
at is on a well. Most
of Alameda is a decommissioned naval base,

1226
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:20.520
so it takes place in an airplane
hangar. Uh So it's all the whiskey

1227
01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:24.199
that they're making. Yeah, okay, Yeah, did you make sure with

1228
01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:27.199
coke? No? Okay, it's
a bad way to taste the whiskey,

1229
01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:30.760
you monster a good way to taste
the coke. What do they make?

1230
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:35.640
They make so there. Their most
popular brand was Hanger One vodka vodka right,

1231
01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:38.680
Yeah, it wakes a lot of
sense because it was made in a

1232
01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:42.079
hanger was made in Hanger one.
Yeah, I've heard great things about that

1233
01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:44.479
vodka. Yeah, I've heard of
the vodka. They do a lot of

1234
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:47.760
infusions, so like you can get. But so they they sold that brand

1235
01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:53.159
like four years ago to some other
company, but we're still making it for

1236
01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:57.119
them. But that contract has since
expired, so now they are no longer

1237
01:14:57.199 --> 01:15:00.840
making Hanger one. They're all just
making their own weird stuff. So they

1238
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:05.319
come out with a single malt whiskey
every once in a while, and it's

1239
01:15:05.399 --> 01:15:09.399
they don't make very many bottles.
It's not very expensive, but it's super

1240
01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:13.600
rare. Is it a Scotch style
whiskey? I don't know what single malt

1241
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:17.239
implies. I'm not sure it means
it's from one batch, not multiple batches.

1242
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:20.520
A blend. Yeah, okay,
so it could be any style,

1243
01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:24.880
right, Okay, So I got
on the list to get a bottle,

1244
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:27.800
two bottles actually, uh, and
I went over there to pick one up,

1245
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.479
and I went my buddy Wayne,
who was buying one of the bottles

1246
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:34.680
off of me, and then we
were there there. Uh, we were

1247
01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:38.920
there, and they were like we
wanted to tasting, and it's just sort

1248
01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:41.880
of you just walk in there and
pay fifteen bucks and they give you a

1249
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:47.119
quarter ounce of like five or six
different uh things that they make. Okay,

1250
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.359
so we get, oh gosh,
what do we do two different kinds

1251
01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:57.760
of gin, which were really tasty. I like gin, but like it's

1252
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:01.880
it's different. It's like super tasty
gin. It's not it's not just gin.

1253
01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:05.479
No no no, it's not your
typical like Christmas tree in a bottle.

1254
01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:12.239
No no, what else? A
a pear brandy And it's cool because

1255
01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:15.000
like you you walk out there,
you can you can see pass a tasting

1256
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:20.680
room like there they're stills and stuff
and they're he's gorgeous like brass uh monstrosities.

1257
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:27.319
Uh. But out in front of
those worth forty three thousand pounds of

1258
01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:34.000
pears in cardboard box smell is incredible. Pas It said something like forty pounds

1259
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:38.840
of pears go into each bottle of
pear brandy. I should have them come

1260
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:43.479
by and take the pears off of
the pear trees I have because pear it's

1261
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:47.720
it's like you buy it into it. You go, man, this isn't

1262
01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:51.279
an apple. Yeah, it's better, no, softer, it tastes better.

1263
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:56.479
It's mushier and gross. I mean, a fucking apple would be like

1264
01:16:56.560 --> 01:17:00.439
this pear nitro. It's like a
nitro pear. That's what an apple is

1265
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:04.159
about. Extreme pears. Juicy bear
jelly bellies. It's one of the best

1266
01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:08.399
ones. That's pretty good. Jelly
beans are gross. What are you saying

1267
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:12.279
jelly bellies are gross? Yeah,
they're all kind of they're just it's that

1268
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:15.800
kind of chewy food. Is just
like I don't like gummy food jelly because

1269
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:18.279
starbursts and jelly beans that's all the
best. But the starburst is all right.

1270
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:23.319
Hang on, we were talking about
fruit, yeah, and now we're

1271
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:26.760
talking about fruit flavored candy. Do
you actually like pears or do you just

1272
01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:30.199
like the taste of pear. I
like the taste of juicy pear of jelly

1273
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:32.000
bellies. I have eaten pears when
I was a child, and I remember

1274
01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:34.239
liking them. Okay, you've at
least eaten real pears before. Yeah.

1275
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:38.199
Yeah, I like said like ninety
seconds ago that you like pears, and

1276
01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:40.840
I took it at face value.
If you're handing up there right now,

1277
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.800
I would eat it and do it, Okay, all right, but mostly

1278
01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:46.840
you get a pass them. They're
disgusting. That's ridiculous. Pear brandy,

1279
01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:53.680
pear brandy coffee liqueur. Okay,
that is so, I don't remember the

1280
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:55.920
mix of stuff. No, no, no, no, that's any one

1281
01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:58.640
of these things is fine on its
own, but going from gin to pear

1282
01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:01.279
brandy to coffee liqueur or whatever else, you should have just like had them

1283
01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:03.680
set it all up and then just
went all right, and then taking like

1284
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:09.439
a paper cup porto and then just
chuck like, thanks guys. It's a

1285
01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:12.399
great way to make you know,
what's really fun is when you make friends

1286
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.560
enough with certain like a bartender,
that you just hang out when the bar

1287
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:17.560
is empty and just have them fuck
around and make stuff. Yeah, and

1288
01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:21.720
come up with dumb names for it. Uh. They had a spiced pear

1289
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:30.479
liqueur which just tasted like Christmas was
awesome. Uh, their absence, which

1290
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:35.720
I had had before, which is
pretty tasty. And finally the their rum.

1291
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:43.079
So apparently I like rum, but
apparently most rum is made from molasses,

1292
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:47.520
which is in turn derived from sugar
cane. H But I think they

1293
01:18:47.560 --> 01:18:53.479
start the process when they're doing the
rum with molasses itself, hanger, Or

1294
01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:59.079
think George's takes the sugar cane while
it's still kind of green and then makes

1295
01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:03.439
it from that makes the rum from
that sugar cane. So what ends up

1296
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:11.760
happening is your rum. It's white. Yeah, Uh, it tastes exactly

1297
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:15.399
like a dirty martini. What Yeah, how does that work? I have

1298
01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:20.079
no idea, but I love dirty
martinis. Yeah, that's a very salty

1299
01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:23.800
thing. Yeah. Uh, it's
really strange. I'm not Yeah, I

1300
01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:26.399
don't understand that process. It was
really good. But I need to go

1301
01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:28.479
to this place that sounds awesome.
Yeah, it's great. And it's over

1302
01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:30.079
over the bay in Alameda, all
right. Yeah, those Chevy's there,

1303
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:33.840
they got everything. Dah Pinball Museum, wow, which I've not been to.

1304
01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:40.800
Yeah, yeah, that was that
was fun, excellent nuclear wessels Daniel.

1305
01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:45.800
Yeah, so Drew drank and an
airplane hanger. I drank on a

1306
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:50.800
battleship all day on Saturday. Which
battleship? Would this be the USS?

1307
01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:55.079
Jeremiah? Okay, somebody said it
was a cargo ship, but it had

1308
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:58.359
a big ass turret on it,
and battleship sounds cooler. So yeah,

1309
01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:00.479
I mean it's a ship if outfitted
for battle. Yeah. Yeah, it

1310
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:03.079
was called Bruise on the Bay.
I guess it was like the eleventh time

1311
01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:06.159
they've done it, and it's great. You buy like one fifty five dollars

1312
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:10.640
ticket and then from twelve to five
you just walk around on this battle ship

1313
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:14.359
and you have a cup and there's
a billion brewers there and there's no line

1314
01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:15.840
and you just say, hey,
give me that, and you point to

1315
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:17.840
a thing and you just get the
beer. It's no extra cost or anything.

1316
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:20.000
They had food trucks going to buy
this so good. I should have

1317
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.560
gone to that. Oh my god. It was awesome, absolutely loved.

1318
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:26.079
And Pedaluma they have a chili cook
off. But then also a bunch of

1319
01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:29.800
local brewers show up too, and
you can kind of just yeah, just

1320
01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:31.239
kind of drink that sounds even better. That sounds really good, and you

1321
01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:33.359
can walk around and go, yes, I would like to tast your chili.

1322
01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:35.279
I don't know if it's any good
or not, and then get a

1323
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:38.880
bunch of people's chili and then go
now, let's go outside to where the

1324
01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:42.680
beer area is and then let's walk
back inside and get more chili. Wait

1325
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:45.600
a minute, we need more beer. That sounds great. Kansas they do

1326
01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:48.880
there with barbecue La Barbecue Battle where
they have all like midwestern yea barbecue thing.

1327
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:53.000
Might that might be the best sounding
thing yet. So there was like

1328
01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:55.439
a ton of people set up on
a boat just with beers. Yeah,

1329
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:59.399
it was a truck yeah, boat
drinks. Yeah, drink it on a

1330
01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:01.800
ship. It was just super cool. Yeah, definition those are boat drinks.

1331
01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:04.000
Yep, those are boat drinks.
I spoke to I spoke to younger

1332
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:10.000
Dwyer about this event. Yeah,
he said. So the cup I'm trying

1333
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:13.560
to remember how big he should it
was. It was like it's maybe half

1334
01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:15.720
a normal old cup. So could
you go out to a brewer and like

1335
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:18.520
have him fill it and just like
chug it and ask for another one?

1336
01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:21.800
I can say with certainty that yes, you can't do that, all right,

1337
01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:25.239
especially when there's only an hour left
and you want to drink a lot

1338
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:28.239
more beer. Okay, you can
definitely do that. I'll try that green

1339
01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:30.399
one. I'm going to that thing
next year. Oh you should. It

1340
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:33.640
was. It was fantastic. Yeah, that sounds fun yep. Outside of

1341
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:38.640
that, I tried for a long
time to not buy Rogue Legacy on PS

1342
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.319
four because I played a bunch of
it on PC. I'd already played a

1343
01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:42.760
ton of it. I was like, I do I really want to spend

1344
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:45.560
seventeen bucks? And then I was
like, well, I'm starting to get

1345
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:47.279
some actually use out of my vida
lately. I got the sixty four gig

1346
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:49.520
cards, so now I can just
load up whatever I want and it's awesome.

1347
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:53.600
So I put Rogue Legacy on there, and the cross save is awesome,

1348
01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:57.239
and like playing with the PS four
controllers grade and I just I love

1349
01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:00.159
that game so much. And it's
the first game in a long time time

1350
01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:02.600
that really hits that sweet spot of
like you say you're going to do one

1351
01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:06.159
more and then fast forward four hours
and you're still playing because you kind of

1352
01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:09.680
get you've played it right. Oh
yeah, you get in this loop to

1353
01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:12.520
where it's like, Okay, I'm
gonna quit playing and go to bed once

1354
01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:15.479
I have one good run. I'll
have a good run and then I'm done.

1355
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:16.920
And then you do a good run
and it's like I got like three

1356
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:19.800
thousand gold out of that run,
Like I gotta go back in and see

1357
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:23.000
what I can buy with that.
And then you're back in the game and

1358
01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:24.880
it's like, okay, well,
next you, good run, I'll do

1359
01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:26.359
it, and then you get a
bunch of golds. I got to do

1360
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:29.159
that. So I just would do
that like thirty times in a row before

1361
01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:30.920
I went to bed, and uh
yeah, with the cross safe stuff,

1362
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:34.600
it's great on Vita. It's that's
just a fantastic game, and I'm glad

1363
01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:38.079
I bought it. The game.
It's probably the best version of that game.

1364
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:40.640
Yeah, if you never played it
before, that is definitely the one

1365
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:43.520
to good. Yeah, but just
easily when my favorite games the year,

1366
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:47.960
so mainly that Destiny, a little
bit of Time Force, it's been the

1367
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.720
bulk of it. Yeah, yeah, excellent. Well, like I said,

1368
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:56.840
it's pretty much been old Destiny all
the time for me, So let's

1369
01:22:56.840 --> 01:23:00.640
not talking about Destiny anymore. Cool
unless it takes this lie top forever to

1370
01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:10.960
wake up, it didn't. Wait, it's four guns, four four guns,

1371
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:15.560
four guns, infinite variations. No, no, something is that not

1372
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.159
convincing? No, not even a
little bit. Man. Oh, the

1373
01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:25.359
coolest part about Saint George's as they
have the old squadron insignia still up in

1374
01:23:25.479 --> 01:23:30.359
the Do you have to do?
You pay like an entrance fee? Yeah,

1375
01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:33.079
fifteen bucks to go in. No, not to go in. Just

1376
01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:35.800
you just if you just wanted you
just see the place. If you happen

1377
01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:40.960
to be in Alamaa, which is
why would you? Why are you an

1378
01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:43.720
alimated? Where is that? Maybe
you live there? It's across the bay.

1379
01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:46.399
Oh okay, it's not Alimated is
not an actual wait yeah, oh

1380
01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:48.720
yeah, Alimated Island. I was
actually looking I lived there, actually,

1381
01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:51.840
I don't think when I was first
it kind of is it's like a landfill.

1382
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:57.560
I thought it was a like archpelago
or something maybe, but it's it's

1383
01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:00.520
hard to tell because there was a
big navy base or something there. For

1384
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:02.840
like the whole like west part of
the island is all like this old abandoned

1385
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:10.560
thing. Its aircraft carrier. I
wouldn't. I mean, the ship already

1386
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:13.920
sailed, gets a ship. But
uh no, I don't get it.

1387
01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:15.920
What are you talking about. I
mean he already crossed this point where it's

1388
01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:19.720
no longer an option, got it, that's what that means across the rubicon.

1389
01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:23.800
Yes, okay, I mean you
already you know, you're already living

1390
01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:26.239
somewhere else. But I would not
recommend living there. Your first time here,

1391
01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:28.439
it looked like it's just a hell
of a Communey. Yeah, it's

1392
01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:32.119
just very isolated. You wouldn't get
much San Francisco living out there. That's

1393
01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:34.239
back when I thought I would drive. But I just saw my car this

1394
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:38.239
weekend, so that's not going to
be an option number free. It's great,

1395
01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:40.520
not having a car. I love
that first time since I was fourteen

1396
01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:43.800
fucking parking tickets anymore. Yeah yeah, and I was never using the damn

1397
01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:46.239
thing anyway. So this is great
realizing your car got towed and now you're

1398
01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:51.600
five hundred dollars poor yep, and
having my roommate. All right, let's

1399
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:58.119
talk about the news alright, of
which there isn't much, okay, but

1400
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:02.520
there's one one news, one piece
of news. There's one news one two

1401
01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:09.239
point five billion dollars the cost of
a well, I didn't tell you what

1402
01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:11.439
I'm selling. I don't give a
fuck like you give me two a half

1403
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:15.279
billion. You have whatever you want, two point five billion dollars my dignity.

1404
01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:18.760
You got it. You're left arm
stealth bomber, Sure you do it.

1405
01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:24.000
Maybe you can afford a robot,
yeah exactly, you're left wint well,

1406
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.239
you're left handed, left handed fuck
it still alright, a lot of

1407
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:29.960
money. I don't know. I
would think about it. I do it.

1408
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:31.840
It would depend on how much of
how cool robot arms are and how

1409
01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:40.720
much there you go. Oh,
he doesn't know half about anymore. Coming

1410
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:45.399
spoilers though. How about Minecraft?
How about Minecraft? I think I would

1411
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:47.000
sell you Minecraft for two and halfllion
dollars. Yeah. I think that's the

1412
01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:50.560
price of a stealth bomber, is
it really? Yeah, one stealth bomber

1413
01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:57.199
like a B two or well you
know how expensive those washers are. Yes,

1414
01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:01.000
and like it's and that's what he's
gonna do with the money. Yeah,

1415
01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:04.439
go buy a stealth bomber, fly
around the world so nobody can track

1416
01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:11.520
him. Yeah, him about mine
and tweeted him their petty concerns about Minecraft

1417
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:15.159
case of nuclear war, which is
especially weird because Nach hasn't even been making

1418
01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:17.439
Minecraft for like two or three years
now. Is he still making that weird

1419
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:23.279
space game where he reprograms whatever?
He killed that? Yeah, that was

1420
01:26:23.319 --> 01:26:29.880
shelved doing actively working on it,
being really ride Minecraft to Microsoft and then

1421
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:32.920
saying fuck it, get my own
boat. He's been doing all kinds of

1422
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:38.600
weird stuff. I was saying,
one really big hat, that's what I

1423
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:42.000
want, Like a mountain sized hat, like the world's biggest hat ever.

1424
01:26:42.079 --> 01:26:44.640
And then he lives inside the hat. I would form a like a hat

1425
01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:47.880
palace. Yeah. Yeah, he's
got enough of a hat mercenary army.

1426
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:55.359
Yeah. Lately he's been streaming himself
attempting to recreate Doom in some other language

1427
01:26:55.439 --> 01:27:01.319
or some other development environment. Yeah, which recently led to the John Carmacks

1428
01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:09.960
tweet of the week. Oh John
Carmacks tweet where I saw them they were

1429
01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:15.359
having exchange on Twitter, where like
Notch seems like slightly dour kind of guy,

1430
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:19.479
like his online persona. I feel
like it's very serious, maybe as

1431
01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:25.239
a result of all the shit he
gets over the game or whatever. But

1432
01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:30.319
I felt like he was just like
very excitedly tweeting at John Carmack because a

1433
01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:32.960
bug that existed in the original Doom
also existed in his recreation of it,

1434
01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:38.159
because he'd like used the same techniques
for It's not like he was copying source,

1435
01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:42.239
he's recoded, he's redoing himself,
but like he had used the same

1436
01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:46.039
whatever technique it was to to to
the level of precision that the certain bug

1437
01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:50.560
showed up, and like CarMax seems
super impressed, So I thought that was

1438
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:57.680
funny. Anyway, Notch's exited the
building, as have the other two founders

1439
01:27:57.720 --> 01:28:03.079
of mojaying. Yeah, Microsoft taking
soul ownership two point five billion dollars five

1440
01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:08.039
billion dollars. So it's assumed that
the people that were actually developing Minecraft that

1441
01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:11.399
were not those founders would stay the
end continue working on Yeah, I think

1442
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:13.880
so. One of the one of
the other Mojen guys wrote a little bl

1443
01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:15.239
I post about the acquisition. Yeah, and they said, you know,

1444
01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:18.520
yeah, we haven't hashed out exactly
who's going to continue and who's not,

1445
01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:23.119
right again notching the other two.
Yes, I had the conversation, Okay,

1446
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:25.319
we'd like to hear it. Yeah, I want to hear the actual

1447
01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:28.119
it's it's tweet of the week,
not paraphrase. Conversation of the week.

1448
01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:34.239
Marcus Presson person person person. So, I think I finally figured out how

1449
01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:39.199
doom rendered sprites. This is going
to be painful to reproducing web gl without

1450
01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:44.239
clipping them on CPGL. That's what
it was. John Carmack, I can't

1451
01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:47.199
remember my John Karmick voice, just
you know, whatever comes to mind.

1452
01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:53.039
Verticals fan rendering was good for CPU, but all GPU implementations converted to alpha

1453
01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:58.199
tested textures. Yeah, Marcus person. I ended up making a x x

1454
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:02.960
normal slash distance shape and near slash
far shader for segs and comparing in the

1455
01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:09.560
sprite shader. Of course. Uh. John Karmack says, this is like

1456
01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:13.760
serious any stimulation faithful bugs. I
never had so much reverence. I never

1457
01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:17.600
had much reverence from my old code. Usually happy to diverge and then it

1458
01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:23.439
goes on. Yes, all right, it's like those emulators you know where

1459
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:26.640
you're Yeah, yeah, what do
you call the cycle cycle accurate or whatever?

1460
01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:30.000
Yeah, it's like reproducing the bugs
and weird ship. This would happen

1461
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:31.720
on the real thing, right,
Yeah, some emulators get too good.

1462
01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:36.319
Yep, in a way, are
you know, preserving the sprite flicker and

1463
01:29:36.359 --> 01:29:40.840
the slowdown and games and stuff like
like when I did like Mega Man nine

1464
01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:44.119
and ten on virtual consoles, sort
of like that you turn on the slowdown,

1465
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:46.479
excepted in this case as a result
of math and not like trying to

1466
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:49.720
appeal to people's nostalgia. This kind
of makes sense. I don't remember the

1467
01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:55.199
details. In the originalists Karmac,
later versions clip sprites into each In later

1468
01:29:55.319 --> 01:30:00.880
versions clip sprites into each subsector and
drew everything back to front. Original doom

1469
01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:04.279
avoided to overdraw at all costs,
but as levels got more complex at same

1470
01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:12.359
screen, rez became better to do. Painters al goo I believe that's short

1471
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:15.119
for algorithm. Sure, I don't
know if I don't know if this conversation

1472
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:16.600
is why this was going around.
But there's an anime to get floating around

1473
01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:20.680
right now of how Doom draws a
scene like you can. It's just a

1474
01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:25.000
real fast animation of like it draws
all the faces of the map in in

1475
01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:27.720
the order that it does and then
lays the sprice in the UI over.

1476
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:31.680
It's kind of cool to see anyway. Microsoft, now one's Minecraft, Yeah,

1477
01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:36.199
Mine, Minecrowsoft, Yep, yep, sure, minecrafts aft on one

1478
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:45.479
more time, my Craft, Mike, Microcraft, okay anything, No,

1479
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:49.960
damn it, No, none of
those long term strategy. What do you

1480
01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:54.800
think? I think that they continue
to sell Minecraft. I think they maybe

1481
01:30:54.920 --> 01:31:01.840
prioritize updates on non competitive platform you
know, so PC and Mac continue unabated,

1482
01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:09.239
you know, mobile like whatever.
Maybe Sony updates get a little slower

1483
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:12.520
slower, but maybe not. I
don't know, Like they've like Phil Spencer

1484
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:14.880
already got out there saying like,
yeah, we have no plans to just

1485
01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:18.079
continue the game on any other platforms, right He even used the word PlayStation.

1486
01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:21.600
Whoa But you know four J did
the work on both those, so

1487
01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:26.760
it's like at some point why not
just have them continue to do those all

1488
01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:29.159
the code, those console versions and
keep them in sync if you can't.

1489
01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:33.640
And my understanding is they sell plenty
of those skins, yeah, that they

1490
01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:38.479
put out right, so like there
is reason to you know, support those

1491
01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:41.439
things and keep making that money.
Right. And also I think that,

1492
01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:44.239
you know, you end up in
a situation where, like, you know,

1493
01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:49.439
Minecraft as a brand, it's absurdly
huge. Is so huge, yea,

1494
01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:54.079
it is so huge, it you
know, it's it's easy to forget

1495
01:31:54.600 --> 01:31:57.640
that, like, you know that
stuff like that and stuff like Angry Birds

1496
01:31:57.680 --> 01:32:01.199
like matter on a scale that we
have seen we don't or we don't see

1497
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:04.800
very often in this business. And
it's easy to write those things off because

1498
01:32:04.840 --> 01:32:08.600
they're not necessarily for the same people
that are playing Call of Duty, your

1499
01:32:09.319 --> 01:32:12.640
you know, all the other stuff
that we think of as as console games.

1500
01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:15.720
But like they are pac Man like
in their nature. You know,

1501
01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:20.079
Minecraft is huge, even more pervasive
perhaps, you know, I think nothing

1502
01:32:20.159 --> 01:32:23.880
is more pervasive than pac Man.
They wrote a goddamn song about Oh I

1503
01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:25.960
suppose that's true. He had a
serial, didn't he. Yeah, they

1504
01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:30.279
Saturday Morning cartoons. They are a
Minecraft serial yet not yet. Fuck that

1505
01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:35.520
Microsoft would be a company that would
be in an even greater position to exploit

1506
01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:40.319
the mine ip across licensing and stuff
like that. Like they've done the Lego

1507
01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:44.319
style sets. You know that there
are figures and all the other stuff that

1508
01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:47.600
are out there for Minecraft. Yeah, yeah, there could be more.

1509
01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:49.640
Oh you know, yeah you read
about you know, like oh, than

1510
01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:55.840
somebody's your friend through their kid a
Minecraft birthday party, or I made you

1511
01:32:55.880 --> 01:33:00.279
a Minecraft cake yeah, or it's
like this kid asked for money to spend

1512
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:04.039
on Minecraft server rentals instead of any
other video game for his birthday. I

1513
01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:08.159
mean, yeah, it is.
It is a bona fide phenomenon for a

1514
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:12.079
certain generation and still is, you
know, it's it's it feels like Minecraft

1515
01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:15.319
kind of came and went with a
lot of people like our age. Yeah,

1516
01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:17.960
Like there was talk about right Minecraft
cool, talk about like not being

1517
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:21.840
for people who play Call of Duty. Like I feel like those are the

1518
01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:26.159
people that I heard about the game
from first, you know, like people

1519
01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:30.199
that we know our peers. I
mean I like a right, I like

1520
01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:32.359
both of them. But then it
but then it like took root with like

1521
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:38.159
a younger generation in a much in
a much more like fundamental way as opposed

1522
01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:41.800
to like here is this interesting cross
platform thing that lets you build stuff.

1523
01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:45.079
You know, It's like, here
is this like endless world of possibility and

1524
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:48.800
creation that is coming to define video
games for people who have never right like

1525
01:33:49.039 --> 01:33:51.560
really played them before. You know. It's like this is the first thing

1526
01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:55.279
that you really have experience with and
it's all you care to play. Yeah,

1527
01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:58.520
And and along the way, it's
making all these other games with their

1528
01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:03.640
set content and set were olds look
like state and seems totally totally like irrelevant

1529
01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:06.399
or archaic. Yes, at a
certain point, and I don't think that's

1530
01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:10.800
the case either, you know,
but from you could see from that perspective

1531
01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:13.520
of someone going like, well,
you know, I got way into Minecraft

1532
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:16.079
as a kid, and all those
people are going to grow up to develop

1533
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:19.319
games that are very unlike the things
that we see it at sure, and

1534
01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:21.680
they are all of them, I
guess, And like the words that decided

1535
01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:26.399
to get into game development, right
and like the word Minecraft will probably always

1536
01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:30.960
stir like some pretty deep like nostalgic
feelings of fondness for those kids. Yeah,

1537
01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:34.079
even if they grow up like the
A lot of the people drawing parallels

1538
01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:38.560
to Lego, like to Minecraft as
the new Lego. I feel like that.

1539
01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:40.760
I feel like that's a convincing argument
to me. I guess so,

1540
01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:43.720
I don't know, I think that's
like sad on a level because you're replacing

1541
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:45.279
physical, real things. Yeah,
I know what you mean, But I

1542
01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:48.840
guess more in the sense that like
Lego is no longer just a thing,

1543
01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:53.159
It's an institution, you know,
sure, like it is an enduring brand

1544
01:34:53.279 --> 01:34:56.520
that manifests in so many different ways, Like They've got there's a movie kind

1545
01:34:56.600 --> 01:35:00.000
of well, Disney is more like
character driven and like they make certain type

1546
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:01.399
products, but like like it was
all over the place. You know,

1547
01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:04.760
it started out as a toy,
whether it was a physical toy or a

1548
01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:09.159
digital one. Yeah. I think
if I had a kid, I can't

1549
01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:12.479
think of any series or game that
I would more prefer him or her to

1550
01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:15.640
be into. I mean, there's
absolutely nothing objectionable for kids at all.

1551
01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:17.760
It's just pure creativity. Yeah,
you know, like I would, I

1552
01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:20.159
would be thrilled if my kid was
one of them that, you know,

1553
01:35:20.439 --> 01:35:24.239
was just making amazing creation. You
know. I think you end up there's

1554
01:35:24.279 --> 01:35:27.880
a dark side to that though,
with that game being online and so many

1555
01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:30.359
people getting on shared servers and building
together and stuff. I'd be plugging all

1556
01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:35.479
the tables twenty five. It's smart
smart, yeah, yeah, in terms

1557
01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:39.760
of the people they might meet doing
that stuff, and also like the you

1558
01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:43.760
know, the potentially exploitative nature of
the stuff that happened with server mods and

1559
01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:45.960
stuff, yeah a little while back, you know, and people charging for

1560
01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:50.319
that kind of thing, because you
know what can happen when the credit card

1561
01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:55.920
falls into the wrong hands. Yeah, young impressionable hands. Yeah, but

1562
01:35:56.359 --> 01:36:01.079
sign up for giant bombre but yeah, you know, like a like people

1563
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:04.760
that are questioning, like what the
strategy was behinds move or whether it was

1564
01:36:04.800 --> 01:36:09.560
really worth that much money, Like
I'd feel like, are not really grasping

1565
01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:12.600
the full scope of the cultural significance. Yeah. It's one of the things

1566
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.199
where it's easy to look at Minecraft
now from like the inside looking out or

1567
01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:18.520
whatever or you know, whatever we
whatever, wherever we are, and you

1568
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:20.760
go like, oh, Minecraft's done, Like that was like years ago.

1569
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:27.000
It was like no, like Minecraft
is still very very much now. Uh

1570
01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:29.920
And in a mainstream sense, Yeah, And I think that meant that makes

1571
01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:32.159
it makes sense for them to pick
it up. The amount of money,

1572
01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:34.720
how they make that back, Like
you know, I don't I don't necessarily

1573
01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:40.479
know about that, but I think
you think they ever go to a Minecraft

1574
01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:43.279
too. I don't know. I
mean, you know, can you do

1575
01:36:43.439 --> 01:36:45.760
that? Absolutely? Yeah? I
mean why why would you? You know,

1576
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:48.760
there are things you know obviously you
could what if you made the blocks

1577
01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:53.600
smaller and the fidelity of the worlds
thus became greater. I mean, you

1578
01:36:53.640 --> 01:36:56.800
know, there's like maybe that's not
an improvement, but it's a change you

1579
01:36:56.840 --> 01:37:00.560
can make that would you could sell
a sequel on that con I guess when

1580
01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:02.439
I say can you do that,
I mean like, I mean more like

1581
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:05.880
his Minecraft as a concept, more
singular than something that you can just iterate

1582
01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:09.359
with a numbered sequel, you know
what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

1583
01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:12.920
I think that it's you know,
like there's no lego to by comparison,

1584
01:37:13.079 --> 01:37:15.039
there's no sequel to that. I
think you spend it out in another way

1585
01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:19.640
to think of it as more like, we've made changes to Minecraft that are

1586
01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:27.600
now so sweeping that it is no
longer compatible, and thus we have had

1587
01:37:27.640 --> 01:37:30.760
to make a Minecraft two point zero
or Minecraft two or whatever you end up

1588
01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:34.399
calling it. I think that would
be I could see that happening, I

1589
01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:40.640
guess, But I think you know, it makes sense for their existing user

1590
01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:43.760
base and everything if they just keep
expanding on what we've got, but you

1591
01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:46.199
know there are limitations that come with
that. Sure, Yeah, it just

1592
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:50.800
it would it would just indicate kind
of a crass attitude towards the game itself

1593
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:54.840
to just immediately turn around and like
here's a sequel and then, like,

1594
01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:57.760
you know, eighteen months later,
here's Minecraft three. Yeah, that would

1595
01:37:57.800 --> 01:37:59.880
be shit. I would assume.
I would hope they're not going to go

1596
01:37:59.920 --> 01:38:00.760
that route. Yeah, but you
know, I think of it more of

1597
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:04.439
a as a service, yeah,
than as a product individual product. Yeah.

1598
01:38:05.720 --> 01:38:09.800
Do you guys read the personal note
that Nach put up about it?

1599
01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:13.039
Yeah? I did, Yeah,
Yeah, and it's it's largely what I

1600
01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:15.880
thought he would say about it.
You know. It was very much just

1601
01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:17.720
like a look, I've not been
working on this thing for a while,

1602
01:38:18.039 --> 01:38:19.960
you know, like you think,
you know, you think about ten XC,

1603
01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:24.319
like he was working on that that
kind of got shelved. Like Scrolls

1604
01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:27.119
wasn't exactly burning up the world.
It wasn't like he was out there making

1605
01:38:27.680 --> 01:38:30.159
Minecraft level hits. Also ran into
that legal trouble around Scrolls because all of

1606
01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:32.359
a sudden he was a big target
because he was making all that money,

1607
01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:38.199
right, and you know, I
has just endured, you know, as

1608
01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:43.840
kind of the face of this thing
has obviously reaps huge benefits monetary and otherwise,

1609
01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:47.479
and you know, the fame and
the stuff that comes with that isn't

1610
01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:50.479
all positive. So you know,
I can't blame him, Like I guess,

1611
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:53.520
like as soon as those rumors got
to a point where it's like,

1612
01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:56.960
oh, this actually is going to
happen, like I kind of said,

1613
01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:58.760
I think I might have turned to
you and said, I bet there's no

1614
01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:02.920
pretension clause and out, yeah and
done with this ship after after reading what

1615
01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:05.560
he wrote, that makes total sense. Yep, Like I don't know if

1616
01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:09.439
maybe I didn't know enough about him
as a person, but and like it's

1617
01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:12.760
it's easy to look at something like
this and like your gut reaction is like

1618
01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:15.840
oboo, who you just made a
hundreds of millions of dollars or he has

1619
01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:17.640
been for some time, right,
Like, yeah, I'm sure it's very

1620
01:39:17.720 --> 01:39:19.720
tough, but like you know,
on on kind of a human level,

1621
01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:24.239
like being in that kind of spotlight
for that long, if you're not the

1622
01:39:24.279 --> 01:39:26.319
type of person who can handle that, and a lot of people can't,

1623
01:39:26.439 --> 01:39:29.760
Yeah, like it could be very
difficult. It can be a very negative

1624
01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:31.359
thing. You know. It's like
the world is not all about how much

1625
01:39:31.359 --> 01:39:34.079
money you have made. You can
see one if you have made that much,

1626
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:38.920
right, Like you know he's said
in there, like I'll go back

1627
01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:44.720
to dabbling with like game jam type
stuff and making whatever I think of,

1628
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.640
but like if it gives the impression
of becoming the successful again, I will

1629
01:39:47.640 --> 01:39:50.720
probably abandon it immediately. Yeah,
Like it seems like he's just gonna go

1630
01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:55.079
desert Island it somewhere at this point. Yeah, that's that. I think

1631
01:39:55.159 --> 01:39:57.640
that makes sense, you know.
And and Minecraft is so big, it's

1632
01:39:57.640 --> 01:40:00.359
so much bigger than him. Are
any of the people that have been working

1633
01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.880
on it now that you know?
Why not? Yeah, you know,

1634
01:40:04.239 --> 01:40:12.520
Microsoft is in a position to make
that spend and uh, you know,

1635
01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:15.079
as someone who doesn't necessarily play Minecraft
and doesn't have a big affinity for it,

1636
01:40:15.199 --> 01:40:19.520
I'm kind of just interested to see
what they end up doing. As

1637
01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:24.319
kind of like the you know,
Stewards or you know of this thing.

1638
01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:26.760
It was just like how are you
how are you going to do right by

1639
01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:30.119
these millions of people. It's like
it's not even just what happens in the

1640
01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:32.039
core game, it's like what happens
to mine con Does that happen again?

1641
01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:35.279
You know, do you start getting
intother media with it? Yeah? Like

1642
01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:41.560
where's the Minecraft movie? Like,
I'm sure that there's some sucker idiot out

1643
01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:44.159
there that wants to like option the
film rights for that thing. If they

1644
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:45.920
haven't already, Sure make a fucking
Minecraft movie, because I'd be stupid.

1645
01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:48.880
You know what's insane. If you
look on like the Kindle store, there's

1646
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:55.119
all these like independently made Minecraft novels
and they will be at like number one,

1647
01:40:55.279 --> 01:40:58.479
like I think, like the number
one selling kindall item of like last

1648
01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:01.319
year. I want to say,
is a Minecraft like then licensed unofficial?

1649
01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:04.119
And I've looked into this stuff a
lot, and it's like some of these

1650
01:41:04.159 --> 01:41:09.560
things are like thirty three pages and
I mean huge font and stuff, and

1651
01:41:09.640 --> 01:41:12.159
you look through it and it's just
it's just nonsense. I mean it's something

1652
01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:15.079
that was just clearly thrown together and
you know, based on some like Minecraft

1653
01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:18.399
lore or whatever. God, I
forget what the guy's name is. There's

1654
01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:23.600
some sta No, there's like some
I can't remember, just a google like

1655
01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:29.000
Kindle Minecraft book. Yeah no,
and they make insane amounts of money where

1656
01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:30.880
you'll see they'll have thousands of reviews
and stuff, and kids seem to love

1657
01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:32.319
it, and it's like, oh, I about this for my kid,

1658
01:41:32.359 --> 01:41:35.279
and yeah, he loved reading about
Minecraft stuff. And these people are just

1659
01:41:35.560 --> 01:41:42.600
crapping out these twenty thirty page minecrafts. Minecraft is largely deservings of its success,

1660
01:41:42.720 --> 01:41:47.159
but like if the cottage industry around
it, like that sounds like horribly

1661
01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:51.000
pandering and exploitatives. Yeah yeah,
and like there's even like huge like print

1662
01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:55.640
screen screenshots in these books, so
like there'll be thirty pages and then like

1663
01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:59.720
there will be twelve giant full screen
screenshots of like hey, here's we're all

1664
01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:02.239
there's scrapers, you know. Wow. Yeah, it's insane. I'm like

1665
01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:04.640
a kid's book. Are you sure
that stuff is not licensed? Because it

1666
01:42:04.680 --> 01:42:10.239
seems crazy that they would allow like
the art and everything it. It certainly

1667
01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:12.880
doesn't look that when I've looked at
like the publisher information and things like that,

1668
01:42:12.960 --> 01:42:15.960
and I have not been able to
tie it to like mojang Er Minecraft

1669
01:42:15.039 --> 01:42:18.000
or anything. I would love to
know those specifics about that, because it's

1670
01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:21.520
it's pretty fast published author. Yes, absolutely, yeah, maybe they're just

1671
01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:27.239
writing unofficial Minecraft lore. I don't
know, fan fiction like the Kindle Store

1672
01:42:27.319 --> 01:42:31.880
is the Kindle Store has made fan
fiction business point that yeah, well,

1673
01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:34.399
you know, I mean they're very
scary. The famous story is the Fifty

1674
01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:38.760
Shades of Gray was Twilight fan fiction
until they like changed character names. Yeah.

1675
01:42:38.840 --> 01:42:43.039
Yeah, basically stuff that stuff swild. Yeah. I saw a news

1676
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:47.680
report about a like very pious,
like deeply religious, married couple who began

1677
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:55.439
a side career writing like body romance
novel nice like I'm not gonna say X

1678
01:42:55.560 --> 01:42:59.880
rated, but it was very very
much seemed like, uh, it's kind

1679
01:42:59.880 --> 01:43:03.479
of counter to their lifestyle. It
was very much like supermarket checkout line style

1680
01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:10.039
bodice ripper type stuff. They're making
insane amounts of money, great, like

1681
01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:19.720
six figures a month fuck selling ebooks. Yeah, insanity anyway. Minecraft Minecraft

1682
01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:24.600
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know
it's it's I don't know that tagline.

1683
01:43:24.920 --> 01:43:28.600
Yeah. If not Now then win, right, If not Microsoft, then

1684
01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:30.640
who? Yeah. You know,
I'm like, like you said, Minecraft

1685
01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:33.560
is by no means done, but
at the same time, like, now,

1686
01:43:33.960 --> 01:43:38.600
somehow seems right for this, like
I don't know that I think so,

1687
01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:40.840
I don't know, but in demand
of this kind of price, forever

1688
01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:44.079
right with it? Yeah, although
you know again they maybe weren't selling specifically

1689
01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:45.720
for the money, don't. Yeah, And I think that, you know,

1690
01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:48.600
it ends up making the future of
Minecraft like maybe a little precarious until

1691
01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:50.720
you kind of see what direction they're
going to go in. But I feel

1692
01:43:50.720 --> 01:43:54.079
like it was kind of there anyway. Yeah, you know, it's this

1693
01:43:54.279 --> 01:43:57.600
established thing. It's been around,
Like you have mod makers that have made

1694
01:43:57.600 --> 01:44:00.920
all these unofficial add ons to Minecraft
and kind of like made it weird on

1695
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:03.960
the PC because different servers will be
running different shit. That's a bad thing.

1696
01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:06.960
It's just you know, what is
Minecraft, and then you'll get a

1697
01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:11.520
different answer from different people to bring
on which which flavor they're playing. I

1698
01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:14.960
wonder, I wonder what the reporting
hierarchy is here. Do you think like

1699
01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:20.119
the head of mojaying ports Spencer,
But it is definitely underneath like the Xbox

1700
01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:24.119
unit, right, I think all
the CC game stuff that goes through him

1701
01:44:24.199 --> 01:44:27.079
now as well, Like I think
all of it is checked into one.

1702
01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:30.399
This thing is not big enough to
just be kind of a free floating satellite

1703
01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:32.319
of Microsoft, right, Like it
needs to still be under the auspices of

1704
01:44:32.399 --> 01:44:36.479
the Game Division. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what a crazy story.

1705
01:44:39.239 --> 01:44:41.840
Yeah, I thought, Yeah,
it really is like they were already making

1706
01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:44.479
so much money that you kind of
never even thought that, like, why

1707
01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:46.560
would they do it? Already doing
that? Well, but well it's like

1708
01:44:46.640 --> 01:44:48.760
you know, at some point you
run the math and go like, well,

1709
01:44:49.560 --> 01:44:53.920
who knows how long this monthly sale
rate will go? How long with

1710
01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:58.039
these I guess? But take this
lump sum and punch out? I guess.

1711
01:44:58.119 --> 01:45:00.279
But I mean they've they've made over
one hundred million dollar or is at

1712
01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:03.239
least the last two it's not three
years running right, Like they across the

1713
01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:08.319
point of not needing money anymore a
long time ago. Yeah, well,

1714
01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:10.840
I don't know. I never went
to any of those weird packs parties that

1715
01:45:11.119 --> 01:45:14.319
they would throw. Oh you didn't
know? So I went to one?

1716
01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:16.560
Yeah, oh I did. Yeah, Yeah you were there. Yea.

1717
01:45:16.920 --> 01:45:21.199
It was just like creepy dance club
nightmare. Yeah. It was fucking insanity,

1718
01:45:21.279 --> 01:45:24.840
like a World of War tanks party
or something crazy. I've never been

1719
01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:27.239
to one of those. Oh yes
I have. I went to one of

1720
01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:30.840
those, one of those two this
those whirld of tanks parties sound like those

1721
01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:33.239
things are scary. I went to
one and I was like this is not

1722
01:45:34.039 --> 01:45:38.640
Yeah, yeah, the one too, Like I had a thousand pound cake

1723
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:41.239
cake. It looked like a tank. They had that too at the one

1724
01:45:41.279 --> 01:45:43.720
I was at. I don't know, that's a regular thing. The giant

1725
01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:47.920
the giant tank cake is a mainstake. The Minecraft master p on top of

1726
01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:53.600
the cake tank. The Minecraft party
was like an order of magnitude bigger than

1727
01:45:53.640 --> 01:45:59.520
anything sucked in University of Washington students
to come party with. Yeah, whoever

1728
01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.279
it was at Chi was playing,
which is like a huge name in that

1729
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:04.840
in that world, and I guess
if you were part of the press,

1730
01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:11.560
you could get up like a on
this sort of yeah uh and look down

1731
01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:15.399
upon the sea of humanity. Wait
a VCI is this like a concert?

1732
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:17.920
He's a DJ of course. Yeah. So when we were leaving, Patrick

1733
01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:21.119
and I were just like, hey, you want to just run in the

1734
01:46:21.199 --> 01:46:27.039
middle of that for sixty seconds and
just to see what what happens in the

1735
01:46:27.079 --> 01:46:30.079
middle of those things. And we
did and it we just got sweat on.

1736
01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:33.800
Yeah, that was like two minutes
before we left. It was fine.

1737
01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:36.159
We jumped up and down while you
guys were doing that, we were

1738
01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:39.760
like, okay, we're good.
Sure. While you guys were busy doing

1739
01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:42.640
that, I went and met notch. Oh yeah, it's friend. Our

1740
01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:47.159
friend Daniel dragged me over and like
we infiltrated the crowd of like thirty people

1741
01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:50.399
that were like clustered around him everywhere
he was trying to walk. Ye,

1742
01:46:50.680 --> 01:46:55.279
So I can't think of it.
If that's the kind of lifestyle that he's

1743
01:46:55.319 --> 01:47:00.319
got, I don't know. At
some point that's actually sound. It's kind

1744
01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:01.520
of grotesque, the sort of thing
that it might be nice to just be

1745
01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:03.560
able to get, Like, like
it seemed like he couldn't have walked through

1746
01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:08.199
his own party because there were so
many people just like crammed around him at

1747
01:47:08.279 --> 01:47:11.039
all times. I don't know,
that's that's our one. On one hand,

1748
01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:12.840
you're like, oh booho, you've
made too much money. Sure,

1749
01:47:12.920 --> 01:47:15.159
but I like it's a it's a
very real Some people would eat that up,

1750
01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:17.399
you know. Yeah, yeah,
some people would would very much be

1751
01:47:17.479 --> 01:47:23.399
into that. But that's that's not
everyone strange story. It feels like,

1752
01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:26.800
yeah, it's I mean, it's
just just like a singular thing. It's

1753
01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:29.640
just like it is unique in the
history of games, Like it's you know,

1754
01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:31.239
even well Black Man was all made
by one guy, you know,

1755
01:47:31.399 --> 01:47:34.079
oh yeah, but he didn't make
billions off of he did not. That's

1756
01:47:34.159 --> 01:47:36.760
like Doom was big. You know, they bought Ferraris or whatever, but

1757
01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:42.399
they kept kept making games at the
same company for another fifteen years or whatever.

1758
01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:45.560
Like this, this one thing blew
up so big that you know,

1759
01:47:45.960 --> 01:47:48.079
h it's crazy. We may never
see It's like a game I would have

1760
01:47:48.159 --> 01:47:53.159
really liked to have seen ten XC
comes market. Yeah, like that really

1761
01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:57.239
likes in that sounded so yeah,
far flung and insane. It really likes

1762
01:47:57.279 --> 01:48:00.479
the sound of that. That that
I would have would have liked to have

1763
01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:06.119
seen that. Yep, absolutely,
yeah, Uh well that three maybe dead?

1764
01:48:06.399 --> 01:48:11.640
How much Terrare is selling for what's
the bird Man? How much can

1765
01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:17.800
I get Daisy four? Get star
Bound for a song? Yeah? No

1766
01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:21.039
one nis, no one is talking
about star Bound anymore. They hasn't hasn't

1767
01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:25.119
star Bound didn't The updates like really
slow down. That may have been the

1768
01:48:25.159 --> 01:48:28.079
case. I have not been following. I thought I saw recently somebody saying

1769
01:48:28.119 --> 01:48:35.640
that the game had not been proceeding
like they had hoped. Anyway, that

1770
01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:39.800
was the big story. Yeah,
A couple other things kind of happened,

1771
01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:44.800
Okay, a little bit. Uh, Smash Brothers for three DS got out

1772
01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:48.399
early in Japan somehow, yes,
uh, and people start streaming it of

1773
01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:55.000
course off three DS. Uh.
You know the same company that makes my

1774
01:48:55.079 --> 01:49:00.039
weird Vita capture rig that works also
make aid and after market add on O.

1775
01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:02.119
Yes, that makes sense. I've
seen three D streams on on Twitch

1776
01:49:02.199 --> 01:49:04.600
before and kind of wondered how that
was happening. But that is how that

1777
01:49:04.760 --> 01:49:09.199
is happening. It's nothing earth shattering, but you know, they've definitely started

1778
01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:12.479
confirming some of the character leaks and
stuff. It's gonna be spoilers here,

1779
01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:17.000
think over my ears, Like,
it fucking blows my mind that people consider

1780
01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:21.039
characters and Dispatch brothers to be spoilers. But I'm not saying that's the first

1781
01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:24.760
time I've heard that. I'm saying
it. In fact, I'm saying it

1782
01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:28.720
blows my mind because of how many
times I've heard that. Not a lot

1783
01:49:28.720 --> 01:49:30.560
of vast majority is the stuff that
leaked before, though, right, okay,

1784
01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:34.399
it's this list here. Yeah,
It's just it's basically just confirming all

1785
01:49:34.399 --> 01:49:38.960
the leaks. Probably, I think
it's just there's that appeal of like you're

1786
01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:41.680
just playing around, you know,
you don't know who the unlockables are,

1787
01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:43.119
and all of a sudden, it's
like, oh, a new challenge.

1788
01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:44.880
Are around to see a silhouet?
It's like, oh God, who is

1789
01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:47.479
this? I am not at all
saying there's that. There is that that's

1790
01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:53.960
experience lacks value like that the surprise
of that isn't inherently like valuable, but

1791
01:49:54.039 --> 01:49:56.720
it's But I'm saying, how the
fuck do you? How the fun can

1792
01:49:56.760 --> 01:49:59.960
you be interested in this game and
make it to the point where you unlock

1793
01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:03.760
that stuff yourself without ever hearing about
it? It's incredibly and everything you cannot

1794
01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:09.159
exist on the internet and social media, so talking to like minded people and

1795
01:50:09.319 --> 01:50:11.560
like not just stumble into that stuff. Brad, are you telling me the

1796
01:50:11.680 --> 01:50:14.800
duck hunt dogs in here? I
told you the duck dog and hunt Dog

1797
01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:16.600
was in there like last week confirmed
though? Or was that that was from

1798
01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:18.920
these streams? The duck hunt Dog, the duck hunt Dog is in the

1799
01:50:18.960 --> 01:50:21.920
game. Yeah, that is definitely
in the game. Okay, so is

1800
01:50:21.960 --> 01:50:27.199
mister Game and Watch Game like him. He's been in before. Yeah,

1801
01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:31.039
so was Warrior. Yeah does he
still have the fart attack? I didn't

1802
01:50:31.079 --> 01:50:33.920
look at any of the footage,
Okay, I'm just looking at Patrick's on

1803
01:50:33.960 --> 01:50:38.319
the side here. Do you want
here, Here's Warrior. In the previous

1804
01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:43.760
game, he was in Brawl and
he could write a motorcycle ont Gannendorf cool,

1805
01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:48.720
doctor Mario cool, dark Pit,
Dark Pit from kid Chorus. Yeah

1806
01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:53.439
that's stupid, Okay, something you
fall into. Yeah, that's a stage.

1807
01:50:53.479 --> 01:50:56.159
It's true, it's a playful character. It's really hard to see it

1808
01:50:56.279 --> 01:51:00.800
coming. Uh Ness and Falco.
I know some people are gonna be really

1809
01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:02.880
happy about nas Falco. I don't
like I don't know that earthbound. Yeah,

1810
01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:08.199
yeah, I never really liked him
as fast. Who's Falco's right?

1811
01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:12.840
Wait, he's Flying Fox. Has
Falco been in before? Oh? Yeah?

1812
01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:16.600
Yeah? Really yeah, I think
Patrick links to the wrong Falco page.

1813
01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:20.680
Did he link to the band?
No, he links to the fist,

1814
01:51:21.279 --> 01:51:25.760
but he linked to the fist of
the north Star character, who is

1815
01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:30.039
also known as the Golden God.
Oh okay, but anyway, Rock Day

1816
01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:32.600
Standard. Yeah, that would be
a good inclusion as well. Anyway that

1817
01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:35.560
you know, that's about it as
as of the story four days ago.

1818
01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:39.960
Yeah, nothing okay or shattering,
but at least you know. Yeah,

1819
01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:44.319
and they got that demo out,
I guess Platinum Club Nintendo members got codes,

1820
01:51:44.439 --> 01:51:46.039
and then it went up for everybody
else. But it like it's one

1821
01:51:46.039 --> 01:51:48.600
of those things where like I just
feel like Nintendo doesn't understand what demos are

1822
01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:51.319
supposed to work or something, where's
like, you can only launch the demo

1823
01:51:51.439 --> 01:51:55.960
thirty times. Yes, well fuck
you. That's always been talking about that's

1824
01:51:55.960 --> 01:52:00.600
always been sober diet. What why? Who does that serve the already limited

1825
01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:02.840
the number of characters that are in
this thing. It's not like it's like

1826
01:52:03.079 --> 01:52:09.319
you're letting me launch the full game
thirty times. Yeah, it's Nintendo.

1827
01:52:09.800 --> 01:52:15.000
It's Nintendo. What else can you
say? It's the it's Nintendo. Bulling

1828
01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:23.199
of the week. Oh Nintendo,
You're so crazy. It's Nintendo. Brought

1829
01:52:23.239 --> 01:52:28.600
to you by Don Carmack. Uh. Yeah, that game will come out.

1830
01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:30.960
We have a quick look up or
excuse me, an unfinished. Yes,

1831
01:52:31.439 --> 01:52:35.079
have a near final version of the
game. It was a bit choppy.

1832
01:52:35.159 --> 01:52:38.840
I hope, I hope it was
not final. Yeah, yeah,

1833
01:52:38.920 --> 01:52:45.000
it's in some room for improvement there. Who remembers achievements me? How do

1834
01:52:45.079 --> 01:52:48.560
you feel about your game or score? I think I'm at like one hundred

1835
01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:53.439
and forty thousand something that is respectable. I used to be a super obsessed

1836
01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:56.760
with the college. Do you have
just one fifteen? Jee? Okay,

1837
01:52:56.840 --> 01:53:01.720
that's yeah, that's intense. So
I'm a little over eighty. They were

1838
01:53:01.760 --> 01:53:05.000
gonna be able to use it to
unlock things. I got a free copy

1839
01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:08.960
of Fusion Frenzy two one time because
of my gamer score. What they had

1840
01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:12.600
they had one game so low that
we're sending it to you off die.

1841
01:53:12.920 --> 01:53:15.239
No, they had a promotion in
like two thousand and seven, two thousand

1842
01:53:15.239 --> 01:53:16.319
and eight where they're like, hey, we're finally gonna let you use those

1843
01:53:16.359 --> 01:53:20.079
gamer points and like the top of
the top, which I was like at

1844
01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:23.680
the top it was just a copy
of Fusion Frenzy too. Yeah, awesome.

1845
01:53:23.880 --> 01:53:28.199
Yeah, well, your life was
never the same. I'm sure nothing

1846
01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:30.840
was the same. Uh. They're
bringing gamer score somewhat back to the four

1847
01:53:31.399 --> 01:53:35.720
on the Xbox One with the October
updates here in that preview program. Yes

1848
01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:38.840
I am. Yeah. So you're
talking about the leaderboard. Yes, it's

1849
01:53:38.880 --> 01:53:40.840
cool. Oh have you seen it? Yeah? You did? You pull

1850
01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:45.279
that previous so it's right on the
front page there. It'll just be like

1851
01:53:45.439 --> 01:53:48.600
basically, it's a leaderboard, a
rolling leaderboard of the last thirty days of

1852
01:53:49.239 --> 01:53:53.640
an amount of change. So it's
like this person has earned five hundred and

1853
01:53:53.640 --> 01:53:56.199
sixty points over the last thirty days
and he's in fifth place on your friend's

1854
01:53:56.199 --> 01:53:58.600
side. So it shows it shows
their total score and the next with that

1855
01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:01.479
a big plus number of points they've
earded. That's it's it's yeah, that's

1856
01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:05.000
a decent way to surface that stuff
that Actually, this looks like something they

1857
01:54:05.079 --> 01:54:09.159
really needed right from the beginning.
I'm looking at this. It's the home

1858
01:54:09.239 --> 01:54:11.800
screen, Yeah, like it is. You don't have to click through a

1859
01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:15.399
friends fund there man and launch a
friends app anymore. It's just you know,

1860
01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:18.680
pins on the left, home and
then friends and then store. They

1861
01:54:18.720 --> 01:54:21.159
added friends as one more like it
used to be on the three sixties.

1862
01:54:21.159 --> 01:54:24.239
It's just these are the major categories. You should be able to get to

1863
01:54:24.279 --> 01:54:26.760
them in one button breaks. They've
been making smart updates to a lot of

1864
01:54:26.800 --> 01:54:29.640
that stuff. That's a lot of
the lists and stuff that were there before

1865
01:54:29.720 --> 01:54:31.880
launched that they then took away at
launch, probably because server load returned of

1866
01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:34.439
just like here's what your friends are
playing, here's what's popular right now.

1867
01:54:35.199 --> 01:54:40.159
Uh, Like they've been they've been
seating that stuff around the dashboard in ways

1868
01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:44.239
that are intelligent. Yeah, and
the whole thing just seems like a smarter

1869
01:54:44.359 --> 01:54:46.359
way for them to expose, you
know, the mountains of data they get

1870
01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:49.560
right on who's planned what? Sure? Yeah, they are collecting a whole

1871
01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:51.640
bunch of shit. Yeah, they've
still got all that stuff with like the

1872
01:54:51.720 --> 01:54:56.479
achievement tracking at the dashboard level,
and even like the stuff inside that.

1873
01:54:56.800 --> 01:55:00.960
It's like data inside data inside data
on that thing. Yeah, there could

1874
01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:02.079
always be more. There's never enough
data, that's true, I yes,

1875
01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:04.680
absolutely, and an API. How
about while we're at it. Yeah,

1876
01:55:06.279 --> 01:55:12.239
yeah, yeah, I'm I'm still
spending ninety plus percent of my console time

1877
01:55:12.279 --> 01:55:15.840
on the PS four. Yea,
That more than anything, has disrupted my

1878
01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:18.680
achievement point game. Yes, certainly, but if you know, if they

1879
01:55:18.760 --> 01:55:21.119
keep doing care, if they keep
doing stuff like this, Like the PS

1880
01:55:21.159 --> 01:55:24.680
four is way better than the p
S three was, but it's still there's

1881
01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:27.920
some areas that it's fairly lacking interface
wise. Oh yeah, yeah, the

1882
01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:31.479
interface on the p S four is
not great. It's it's it's it could

1883
01:55:31.520 --> 01:55:34.960
be better. There are features that
they still have not implemented obviously. You

1884
01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:38.239
know, there's tons of stuff,
and you know a lot of it is

1885
01:55:38.319 --> 01:55:41.880
you know, like we often end
up just playing and covering what we're sent,

1886
01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:45.239
which is mostly PS four. But
like, if this stuff kept keeps

1887
01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:46.840
going this way, like they've been
improving the Xbox so much, I could

1888
01:55:46.840 --> 01:55:50.960
see wanting to spend more time there
just because it's a more pleasant thing,

1889
01:55:51.039 --> 01:55:53.840
you know, yeah, I think
you know. For me, it was

1890
01:55:53.880 --> 01:55:56.560
like, uh, and I ran
into a situation playing Destiny on the Xbox

1891
01:55:56.640 --> 01:55:59.960
One where you know, on the
PS four the party defaults to friends all

1892
01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:01.560
only, so just right away,
anyone on your friends list can join in,

1893
01:56:01.840 --> 01:56:03.800
and that's kind of how I prefer
to play it. It's like I'm

1894
01:56:03.800 --> 01:56:08.680
not the inviting type because I think
that commits me to play for a chunk

1895
01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:11.319
of time and I might not have
that time, so I'll be like,

1896
01:56:11.399 --> 01:56:13.039
ah, you know, if people
want to join, then you know,

1897
01:56:13.079 --> 01:56:15.000
it's on them if I just go, like I gotta go because they don't

1898
01:56:15.039 --> 01:56:19.199
know you anyway. So so on
the Xbox One, it's just it's a

1899
01:56:19.279 --> 01:56:24.039
button that opens the party app and
then I I'm not sure if I can

1900
01:56:24.199 --> 01:56:27.680
set up a party that just lets
friends join it if they want to,

1901
01:56:28.359 --> 01:56:30.279
But I don't know. No one
joined my game. When I was playing

1902
01:56:30.920 --> 01:56:34.399
Destiny, I was an a PS
four party yesterday that had been left open,

1903
01:56:34.960 --> 01:56:38.560
and somebody from my friends list joined
that I don't know. Yeah,

1904
01:56:38.600 --> 01:56:41.520
it was weird, on the opposite
of you. I want a group of

1905
01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:44.479
people that I know, because people
that have people that I don't know,

1906
01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:46.000
we're scary and I don't want to
have to I mean, yeah, I

1907
01:56:46.520 --> 01:56:49.680
don't. I don't, you know. I was not voice chatting and stuff,

1908
01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:53.119
so it was just like joining it, join up like the games,

1909
01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:55.520
simple enough that, like we can
just run at things and shoot it.

1910
01:56:55.640 --> 01:56:58.479
Like there's an arrow on the thing, just run that way and shoot everything.

1911
01:56:58.680 --> 01:57:01.359
Yeah, don't I don't want to
massively over leveled guy to join though.

1912
01:57:01.439 --> 01:57:04.439
Yes, that's no phone at all. Can you kick him out pretty

1913
01:57:04.479 --> 01:57:06.760
easy? Yeah you can, so
you can politely ask him to leave,

1914
01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:11.319
you know. The guy quit and
sent me an apologetic message right after because

1915
01:57:12.359 --> 01:57:14.520
he joined, and people I was
with like, who's that? Do you

1916
01:57:14.560 --> 01:57:15.840
know who that is? I was
like, I don't know who that is?

1917
01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:19.920
And he was like and he ran
away. My favorite part of that

1918
01:57:20.439 --> 01:57:24.920
specific session of Destiny though, was
that I was playing, Uh, here

1919
01:57:25.039 --> 01:57:27.399
is a thing that is great about
the PS four. You can plug a

1920
01:57:27.520 --> 01:57:31.479
nice headset with a microphone into the
controller and everything just goes like you can

1921
01:57:31.720 --> 01:57:34.399
you get the game audio sounding really
nice through those headphones, and you also

1922
01:57:34.439 --> 01:57:38.279
do the voice chat through the same
thing. It's really easy to switch between

1923
01:57:38.359 --> 01:57:41.600
like the output to headphones, chat
audio or all audio. That's easy.

1924
01:57:42.359 --> 01:57:45.119
But the one thing I'll say is
that the endgame Destiny voice chat is nowhere

1925
01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:48.640
near as good as the PS four
party chat. Oh really for quality reasons,

1926
01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:51.439
but also in Destiny you can't balance
the game audio and the chat audio,

1927
01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:56.359
so like I couldn't hear people talking
over gunshots and stuff. Okay,

1928
01:57:56.600 --> 01:57:58.560
but then we just went and made
a party and that lets you balance,

1929
01:57:58.640 --> 01:58:00.039
like, you know, chat louder
than game type of stuff. I bought

1930
01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:05.520
those the PlayStation Pulse or whatever said
one and it's got a just an easy

1931
01:58:05.560 --> 01:58:09.279
little thing on the side that's just
chat and games. So it just one

1932
01:58:09.359 --> 01:58:12.239
button. Freed, was that the
one that has an app on the PS

1933
01:58:12.319 --> 01:58:15.720
four that you can launch to do
stuff with? Not that I'm aware of.

1934
01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:18.520
Okay, Now there is a Sony
headset that might be the like Elite

1935
01:58:18.600 --> 01:58:23.960
Pulse. They put out a new
a new headset after the PS four came

1936
01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:26.239
out. All right, it might
be one. Anyway. The whole reason

1937
01:58:26.279 --> 01:58:29.159
I bring that up is that I
was in a party. I had the

1938
01:58:29.199 --> 01:58:31.640
headphones on the game audio was coming
through the headset, so the room,

1939
01:58:31.680 --> 01:58:36.279
the living room was quiet. Yeah, and the sun went down and it

1940
01:58:36.359 --> 01:58:39.560
got really dark in there because I
hadn't bothered to stand up and turn the

1941
01:58:39.600 --> 01:58:42.199
lights on because we were in the
process of beating the game. Yeah,

1942
01:58:42.920 --> 01:58:45.039
all of a sudden I glanced down
below the TV and the connect was on.

1943
01:58:46.479 --> 01:58:48.880
And then I looked down further and
the Xbox One was also on,

1944
01:58:50.199 --> 01:58:54.239
as if to say, Hey,
you haven't turned me on in weeks,

1945
01:58:55.479 --> 01:58:58.399
maybe you should give it a shot. Hey did you say Xbox on?

1946
01:58:58.520 --> 01:59:00.000
Yeah? Say it? Did you
say it with you might have said it

1947
01:59:00.119 --> 01:59:06.039
something? Something something I said must
have like triggered that is on things eight

1948
01:59:06.159 --> 01:59:10.800
hay se Re experience has been very
much like that. Like I had a

1949
01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:13.720
split second of terror where I was
just like that, they're fucking watching me,

1950
01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:16.319
Like somebody has rooted this thing.
It was like spying on me through

1951
01:59:16.359 --> 01:59:19.640
the fucking connect. It was a
weird It was a weird thing. It

1952
01:59:19.720 --> 01:59:25.199
was a plaintive cry from my Xbox
One. But yeah, I hope they

1953
01:59:25.279 --> 01:59:27.800
keep updating this thing. Yeah,
they've made a lot of great updates.

1954
01:59:27.960 --> 01:59:30.159
You know, they've got like a
site like Sony does also I think where

1955
01:59:30.159 --> 01:59:35.279
it's like user voting on feature requests
and stuff like that. So it looks

1956
01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:39.239
like they're actually paying attention to some
of that stuff. So that's uh,

1957
01:59:39.600 --> 01:59:45.640
it's cool. Yeah, good stuff. Uh. And finally, on a

1958
01:59:45.680 --> 01:59:49.039
somber note, Douglas E. Smith, the creator of a load Runner,

1959
01:59:49.079 --> 01:59:56.039
has passed on. Yeah, which, you know, not a lot else

1960
01:59:56.079 --> 01:59:59.840
to say about that. Some Runner
where gosh, there's a lot of versions

1961
01:59:59.840 --> 02:00:03.920
of Runner out there, ton you
know, the modern ones that Tozie Games

1962
02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:09.239
put out are good, but they're
not the original. I would go back

1963
02:00:09.319 --> 02:00:13.079
to the Apple two. I would
go back to like the Atari four hundred

1964
02:00:13.119 --> 02:00:15.359
eight hundred. I don't have either
of those. That's there are there are

1965
02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:21.520
ways around them? Yeah, that's
so that's the game load Runner is is

1966
02:00:21.720 --> 02:00:28.000
the game that I first ever got, like one fully hooked on, like

1967
02:00:28.439 --> 02:00:30.000
had that experience of like oh shit, the sun went down. Yeah,

1968
02:00:30.439 --> 02:00:33.159
uh that that kind of hit me
like around fourth grade. It was basically

1969
02:00:33.199 --> 02:00:36.319
the summer that I stayed inside playing
video games instead of riding bikes. So

1970
02:00:38.079 --> 02:00:43.600
it's the game that made me fat. Okay, it's the Yeah, you

1971
02:00:43.640 --> 02:00:45.680
know, I made hundreds of levels
for a load Runner. Yeah, it's

1972
02:00:45.720 --> 02:00:49.159
a it's an incredible game, always
was. Yeah, it's good stuff.

1973
02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:51.159
And yeah, it's it's it's sad
to see that he was, you know,

1974
02:00:51.199 --> 02:00:55.920
he was relatively young at fifty three, but but it's still made me

1975
02:00:56.039 --> 02:01:01.199
think about like that awful inevitability,
you know. And a couple more decades

1976
02:01:01.239 --> 02:01:04.600
passing, you start seeing, you
know a lot of creators of yeah,

1977
02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:09.800
seminal arcade games from like the seventies
and eighties are starting to get up there

1978
02:01:09.840 --> 02:01:15.039
in years, you know. Yeah, it's crazy time marches on. Yeah,

1979
02:01:15.159 --> 02:01:18.640
definitely, Yeah, it's uh.
Meanwhile, Ralph fucking Bear still doing

1980
02:01:18.680 --> 02:01:25.279
it at ninety two, fucking a
still going more machine than Man the Godfather.

1981
02:01:25.600 --> 02:01:30.640
Yeah, uh but yeah, condultis
to uh to Douglas Smith's family,

1982
02:01:32.800 --> 02:01:40.760
sad news. All right. You
know what else said? Emails? Emails,

1983
02:01:40.880 --> 02:01:44.800
emails? What could be more depressing
than the email segment of this fucking

1984
02:01:44.880 --> 02:01:51.640
podcast? That's a that's a good
point. What what is more more ready

1985
02:01:51.760 --> 02:01:57.600
reminder of man's in humanity toward man
than the collection of emails that we get

1986
02:01:57.640 --> 02:02:02.600
every week jombie movies. Are you
saying that the people are the real emails?

1987
02:02:02.840 --> 02:02:08.159
Yes? Right, yes, BombCast
A Giant, bomb dot Com.

1988
02:02:08.840 --> 02:02:14.479
Yes, okay, I can relax
now you just tens up every week.

1989
02:02:15.199 --> 02:02:17.039
I think I got it. I'm
on deck to say it. It's like

1990
02:02:17.119 --> 02:02:18.960
three. I mean, if you
want to say it, you're welcome to

1991
02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:23.039
say it. It's I don't know, sounds like an Ed McMahon style,

1992
02:02:23.319 --> 02:02:31.199
just like bomb cast A Giant.
Yes. Yes, I liked when he

1993
02:02:31.239 --> 02:02:35.880
said yes, yes, and you
nailed it. Emails. All right,

1994
02:02:36.079 --> 02:02:40.399
let's get a couple of token video
game emails out of the way as usual

1995
02:02:41.439 --> 02:02:45.600
before we before we get on with
the real business. Uh leave from London,

1996
02:02:45.640 --> 02:02:49.920
England. Man, boy, great, these are all great. No,

1997
02:02:50.039 --> 02:02:53.399
he didn't say away. I should
have just let you think he said

1998
02:02:53.399 --> 02:02:57.560
away. I don't want to misrepresent
him though. Uh. Master Chief is

1999
02:02:57.600 --> 02:03:01.760
the traveler in Destiny is his subject
line? No, Hi, guys.

2000
02:03:01.800 --> 02:03:05.800
Destiny features a huge mysterious sphere,
not unlike the one scene in Halo four.

2001
02:03:06.640 --> 02:03:09.600
Is there a chance the two were
meant to be tied together at some

2002
02:03:09.680 --> 02:03:13.520
point, or was Destiny meant to
be Halo Online? The Destiny teaser in

2003
02:03:13.600 --> 02:03:16.479
odst suggests that it would take place
in the Halo universe. Could it be

2004
02:03:16.600 --> 02:03:19.680
that the traveler in Destiny was intended
to be master Chief, having arrived on

2005
02:03:19.760 --> 02:03:26.039
the planet in Stasis the Halo three
ending, But that theory kind of gets

2006
02:03:26.079 --> 02:03:28.680
a little all over the place there
when you start tying it into Halo three.

2007
02:03:28.840 --> 02:03:34.319
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm looking
at our resident Halo expert. I

2008
02:03:34.399 --> 02:03:39.000
have no idea, I don't.
I think that game is so different now

2009
02:03:39.319 --> 02:03:42.600
from then what it probably was to
be when they first conceived it back in

2010
02:03:42.680 --> 02:03:45.399
those days, that it's impossible to
tie that stuff together, probably right.

2011
02:03:45.479 --> 02:03:50.399
Also, does bung you own that
ip Destino? They what are you?

2012
02:03:50.560 --> 02:03:54.439
Which one are you talking about it? Does Bungi own Halo? No?

2013
02:03:54.760 --> 02:03:56.640
Can they put my tree Chief in
a game? Ope? No, That's

2014
02:03:56.640 --> 02:03:59.439
what I thought. But I think
what he's saying is, you know,

2015
02:03:59.520 --> 02:04:03.640
this would have been before Bungee pulled
their insane stunt to get away from Microsoft

2016
02:04:04.159 --> 02:04:08.439
like that, Maybe that theoretically they
could have made that game while Halo.

2017
02:04:08.479 --> 02:04:12.319
Wow, we're still affiliated with Halo
to the degree, Like originally the plans

2018
02:04:12.319 --> 02:04:15.439
could have been for whatever became Destiny
to be a Halo product until they got

2019
02:04:15.479 --> 02:04:18.199
the hell out of there and we're
no longer able to make Halo products.

2020
02:04:19.199 --> 02:04:25.359
I don't remember when that happened.
It was was six, It really was

2021
02:04:25.399 --> 02:04:28.960
it before Halo three came out,
because that came out, No, seven,

2022
02:04:30.359 --> 02:04:33.800
didn't it? M Yes, gotta
be after that. I remember it

2023
02:04:33.920 --> 02:04:38.960
was on a podcast in this room. Okay, that Bungee went independent.

2024
02:04:39.119 --> 02:04:43.880
How about that? Okay, it
was way later than Halo three. No,

2025
02:04:44.039 --> 02:04:47.920
that would have been before Halo three, a Bungee splitting off to join

2026
02:04:47.960 --> 02:04:53.239
Activision. They are you talking about
them? Did enjoy that? Joys like

2027
02:04:53.319 --> 02:04:57.720
getting away? But when they when
they bailed on Microsoft? Yeah? Oh

2028
02:04:58.319 --> 02:05:01.079
yeah, Well anyway, rather than
and hanging about when things might have happened,

2029
02:05:01.920 --> 02:05:03.760
uh, I don't think there was. You know that there is that

2030
02:05:03.840 --> 02:05:08.119
teaser in ODST that people went back
and found years later. It's cool,

2031
02:05:08.279 --> 02:05:11.119
it's cool, but I don't think
they're just don't. It's just like a

2032
02:05:11.159 --> 02:05:14.880
poster on a wall and destiny is
coming and it just shows like the Earth

2033
02:05:14.920 --> 02:05:16.680
at the little orb next to it. Really yeah, it's yeah, It's

2034
02:05:16.680 --> 02:05:20.399
just like artwork on a wall in
an office building or something. But I

2035
02:05:20.439 --> 02:05:23.439
don't think you have to look at
that and say, oh, they take

2036
02:05:23.439 --> 02:05:27.199
place in the same universe or anything
like that. Yeah, I mean,

2037
02:05:27.239 --> 02:05:30.359
if anything, that the storylines of
Halo and Destiny are directly in conflict with

2038
02:05:30.359 --> 02:05:33.359
each other because they both take place
around the same time, different aliens,

2039
02:05:33.760 --> 02:05:38.560
do they Yeah, is there a
year attached to Destiny at anything? They

2040
02:05:38.640 --> 02:05:41.560
just say centuries in the future,
like they say the Golden Age lasted for

2041
02:05:41.680 --> 02:05:44.720
centuries and blah blah blah. I
mean, maybe the Master Chief was that

2042
02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:48.640
was the end of the Golden Age
because they the whole, the whole beginning

2043
02:05:48.720 --> 02:05:53.600
human City is New mombasas maybe,
I mean, but the impetus of the

2044
02:05:53.640 --> 02:05:57.439
whole Destiny Timeline is the first man
to mission to Mars, discovers the traveler,

2045
02:05:58.000 --> 02:06:00.399
right, so that stuff es from
their good point, I bet.

2046
02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:02.479
Yeah, there's no way to know. Who knows, I mean, I've

2047
02:06:03.079 --> 02:06:06.800
I've heard it has been ages since
they have been working on Destiny in some

2048
02:06:06.920 --> 02:06:11.319
form, even if it's just like
thinking about and concepting what it might be.

2049
02:06:12.760 --> 02:06:15.439
Uh So, Yeah, who knows
what their plans were? Yeah?

2050
02:06:15.520 --> 02:06:19.319
You know, Bungee has a love
of themes and a lot of the themes

2051
02:06:19.479 --> 02:06:24.359
crossover. Yeah, yes, like
you. You can kind of tell a

2052
02:06:24.439 --> 02:06:29.000
bunch of game surprising lack of rampancy
in this game, but they at least

2053
02:06:29.039 --> 02:06:30.600
set the stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. It can

2054
02:06:30.640 --> 02:06:35.279
still come back around it will They
set up that AI. Don't worry the

2055
02:06:35.359 --> 02:06:39.359
second mission they're talking about, Oh, the war mind from Earth is still

2056
02:06:39.399 --> 02:06:41.760
here. He's still alive. Yeah. They even refer to it as a

2057
02:06:41.840 --> 02:06:45.960
heat. Yeah, it's like we're
gendering our ais like their people. You're

2058
02:06:46.000 --> 02:06:50.039
gonna make that thing go crazy,
and aren't you or fight it because it's

2059
02:06:50.039 --> 02:06:56.760
crazy. Yeah. Actually there's still
time, so crazy, still time.

2060
02:06:56.920 --> 02:07:03.119
Yeah, let's see. I had
one other one in mind. What is

2061
02:07:03.199 --> 02:07:09.880
a sphere but a revolved ring?
Wait? Yep? Whoa yeah, oh

2062
02:07:10.039 --> 02:07:12.960
yes, indeed it took me a
second to get what you were getting at

2063
02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:20.880
all. Right. Brandon from North
kakil Aki wants to know if we think

2064
02:07:20.920 --> 02:07:25.479
that Microsoft is just buying Mojing's customers
or if that's one of their goals.

2065
02:07:27.319 --> 02:07:30.880
Do you think that Microsoft buying Mojing? Sorry, let me start this over.

2066
02:07:31.319 --> 02:07:33.800
I always feel like if I read
and strip over a typo in the

2067
02:07:33.840 --> 02:07:39.319
email, people are just gonna think
I can't read. I mean I can't,

2068
02:07:39.359 --> 02:07:42.760
but yeah, no, there are
a lot of typos in these emails.

2069
02:07:42.880 --> 02:07:46.359
True, do you think Microsoft is
buying Mojing for the Minecraft ip itself

2070
02:07:46.479 --> 02:07:50.359
or for the crazy installed base.
Minecraft is already installed on about a bajillion

2071
02:07:50.399 --> 02:07:56.199
PCs, So if Microsoft builds a
really cool client around it to make it

2072
02:07:56.279 --> 02:08:00.680
easy for modding or player matching and
keep that Minecraft community really happy, then

2073
02:08:00.680 --> 02:08:03.640
they could easily Trojan Horse and other
games for Windows Client or something of that

2074
02:08:03.800 --> 02:08:07.680
nature. Am I a crazy person
or does this make at least a little

2075
02:08:07.680 --> 02:08:11.279
sense? I think all things are
possible. Yeah, when it comes to

2076
02:08:11.479 --> 02:08:13.039
that, like when you're spending that
that amount of money, I'm sure they'll

2077
02:08:13.039 --> 02:08:16.079
look at every facet of it and
go like, ah, this is one

2078
02:08:16.119 --> 02:08:18.039
potential future for this. Yeah.
I mean, at the same time,

2079
02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:22.199
they would be insane to saddle like
if they were to come out with a

2080
02:08:22.279 --> 02:08:26.279
new version of the Minecraft client and
saddle it with something as ponderous and like

2081
02:08:26.399 --> 02:08:28.720
poorly executed as games for one as
Live was right, Like, that would

2082
02:08:28.720 --> 02:08:35.359
be totally ludicrous, But they could
you know, or you know, but

2083
02:08:35.439 --> 02:08:37.720
what if they ended up making something
it was actually really good? That's what

2084
02:08:37.760 --> 02:08:39.239
I mean? You know, it
could take many forms, but that's certainly.

2085
02:08:39.359 --> 02:08:43.760
You know, they've got the attention
of a very large number of people

2086
02:08:43.800 --> 02:08:46.960
now with this, who will probably
be there for whatever comes out that says

2087
02:08:46.960 --> 02:08:52.079
Minecraft on it. Yeah, so
that could get out there. I guess,

2088
02:08:52.159 --> 02:08:56.199
Dan, what do you think while
I'm finding the next email? I

2089
02:08:56.399 --> 02:08:58.840
think that Minecraft is a real big
thing and it's still gonna make a lot

2090
02:08:58.880 --> 02:09:03.279
of money for several years, and
yeah, it's smart to pick it up.

2091
02:09:03.800 --> 02:09:07.039
So I don't know if there's anything
more insidious than that or anything.

2092
02:09:07.439 --> 02:09:11.439
I hope not. I don't think
it has to be insidious, you know.

2093
02:09:11.560 --> 02:09:16.199
That's that's the thing is. You
know, there are things they could

2094
02:09:16.199 --> 02:09:20.239
do around Minecraft that would yeah,
like better modding tools or you know,

2095
02:09:20.279 --> 02:09:22.159
whatever they want to do on the
PC or something like that. Like if

2096
02:09:22.199 --> 02:09:26.199
they if they wanted to get serious
about games on the PC. Again,

2097
02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:30.199
that might not be the worst way
to start. But obviously they're playing with

2098
02:09:30.279 --> 02:09:35.560
fire when they when they do things
to a community that dedicated and that large,

2099
02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:39.119
especially because they're not dedicated to Microsoft, they don't give a fuck about

2100
02:09:39.119 --> 02:09:39.880
any of that stuff. That Sure, I just want to play Minecraft.

2101
02:09:39.960 --> 02:09:46.079
Sure, that's a tricky Okay,
we don't usually talk about kickstarters, but

2102
02:09:46.199 --> 02:09:52.119
this one's important. Okay, public
service announcement for pinball levers from Nolan and

2103
02:09:52.199 --> 02:09:58.840
Maine. The Pinball Arcade, the
totally awesome multi platform collection of virtualized classic

2104
02:09:58.880 --> 02:10:01.720
pinball machines, is trying to kickstart
the considerable amount of money to buy the

2105
02:10:01.880 --> 02:10:07.159
licenses and virtualize the most successful pinball
machine ever in the Adams Family. And

2106
02:10:07.399 --> 02:10:11.439
I had no idea the Adams Family
was. Is that a legit stat the

2107
02:10:11.479 --> 02:10:18.600
most successful? It was an extremely
successful pinball everywhere. Everyone loved the Adams

2108
02:10:18.640 --> 02:10:22.680
Family table, but I didn't know
it was like the one. The Adams

2109
02:10:22.760 --> 02:10:26.680
Family licenses were apparently even more expensive
than the Terminator two table, which is

2110
02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:28.479
in Pinball Arcade, right, yep, it is uh And they've also got

2111
02:10:28.560 --> 02:10:31.359
as a result of a successful kickstart. Okay, so yeah, they've been

2112
02:10:31.439 --> 02:10:37.359
kicked start Generation was another one.
Twilight Zone. I guess the estate of

2113
02:10:37.479 --> 02:10:41.319
mister Julia. He's talking about Raoul
Julia. Yeah, and the owners of

2114
02:10:41.399 --> 02:10:46.520
the Adams Family license were tough negotiators. So where T two was roughly sixty

2115
02:10:46.560 --> 02:10:50.079
thousand dollars, the Adams Family needs
ninety thousand to get made. Probably know

2116
02:10:50.199 --> 02:10:56.560
what they've got in the most popular
pinball machine. Yeah, sure. I

2117
02:10:56.880 --> 02:11:00.359
wonder even who even owns the Adams
family at this point. Yeah, it's

2118
02:11:00.399 --> 02:11:03.039
like probably some snack food company or
something. It just seems like one of

2119
02:11:03.039 --> 02:11:07.239
those properties that ends up in the
ownership of Yeah. Yeah. Uh.

2120
02:11:07.760 --> 02:11:09.920
Anyway, he just says, you
know, I was hoping you might help

2121
02:11:09.000 --> 02:11:11.479
get the word out or at least
talk about the table. I always remembered

2122
02:11:11.520 --> 02:11:16.000
it being pretty damn cool. Lots
of neat gadgets, uh, and it's

2123
02:11:16.039 --> 02:11:20.119
hard to find in good working conditions
these days. I haven't seen one since

2124
02:11:20.399 --> 02:11:24.439
it was big in the nineties.
They're they're still I'm sure they're out there.

2125
02:11:24.479 --> 02:11:26.880
If it was there it was that
popular, they're still around. But

2126
02:11:26.600 --> 02:11:28.800
I just it's a it's a good
machine. I don't remember whole lot about

2127
02:11:28.800 --> 02:11:31.720
it. I just remember liking it
a whole lot. Yeah, it's it's

2128
02:11:31.760 --> 02:11:33.920
a it's a lot of fun.
Yeah. I think of that era of

2129
02:11:33.960 --> 02:11:37.880
those types of machines. I like
Twilight Zone more. But yeah, how

2130
02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:41.399
much is it to kick start the
guns and Roses one? Was there really

2131
02:11:41.479 --> 02:11:46.760
an GNR? When did it come
out? Like the thing the plunger is

2132
02:11:46.840 --> 02:11:50.359
it's a gun or is it a
rose. I think there's a gun and

2133
02:11:50.479 --> 02:11:52.840
a rose. It's like two separate
things. Yeah, yeah, I should

2134
02:11:52.840 --> 02:11:56.720
see that. It's like use your
illusion type. That's when pennball machines.

2135
02:11:56.720 --> 02:12:01.560
We're getting pretty laborate. Yeah,
yeah, you right away if I remember

2136
02:12:01.600 --> 02:12:03.239
correctly. I haven't seen one in
a while. Man, I want to

2137
02:12:03.279 --> 02:12:05.880
if anybody in the Bay Area knows
where one of those can be played,

2138
02:12:05.880 --> 02:12:13.960
I would like to chant it out. In related news, our break room

2139
02:12:15.000 --> 02:12:16.640
now has a Star Trek the next
generation table in it. Yeah. Have

2140
02:12:16.720 --> 02:12:18.680
you seen that yet? I have
not. You should go take a look.

2141
02:12:18.800 --> 02:12:22.680
Yeah, is in working order?
It works right. There was a

2142
02:12:22.720 --> 02:12:28.520
post it note on it about the
right gun being faulty. Yeah, okay,

2143
02:12:28.600 --> 02:12:33.920
what does that mean. There's there
are launchers a little rotating turrets on

2144
02:12:33.960 --> 02:12:35.279
that tape. Okay, yes,
yes, and the right one probably sucks.

2145
02:12:35.399 --> 02:12:39.159
That makes sense because I I dropped
a ball in the left launcher and

2146
02:12:39.239 --> 02:12:41.880
it worked, Yeah, but I
didn't hit the right one. It seemed

2147
02:12:41.880 --> 02:12:46.039
like free play was maybe weird because
the score just kept going up and up

2148
02:12:46.079 --> 02:12:50.760
and up, as if like the
Resilient Balls credits on that game. When

2149
02:12:50.800 --> 02:12:54.479
I wanted to just I probably should
have just turned it off. It has

2150
02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:58.319
I think it has buy a ball
like okay, insert credit for a fourth

2151
02:12:58.319 --> 02:13:00.800
ball. Yeah yeah, yeah that
stuff like be somebody had just hit the

2152
02:13:00.840 --> 02:13:03.159
way. It might just be that
hit the button a zillion times, and

2153
02:13:03.199 --> 02:13:05.960
it's got an LCD screen in it. Weird, which you said is kind

2154
02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:09.039
of like a thing that some people
do aspgrades. Yeah, that's weird,

2155
02:13:09.239 --> 02:13:13.199
like color mods and people the stuff
that people do. Yeah, where did

2156
02:13:13.239 --> 02:13:16.520
those machines come from? Here?
Yeah? Who buys? I know where

2157
02:13:16.520 --> 02:13:20.399
they I know where they came from
many years ago. I don't know if

2158
02:13:20.439 --> 02:13:22.039
that's still like the same guys still
that. We had a guy that I

2159
02:13:22.119 --> 02:13:26.520
think we just called the arcade doctor
right as he had a name I just

2160
02:13:26.560 --> 02:13:30.600
remember as Jerry and Jerry. Yes, this guy would show up and either

2161
02:13:30.720 --> 02:13:33.079
fix machines and he'd fix it or
occasionally he would like take one away and

2162
02:13:33.159 --> 02:13:35.800
replace it with something else. Yeah, okay, a guy named Jerry.

2163
02:13:35.880 --> 02:13:39.600
In fact, then there's there's only
like the one pinball and like two arcade

2164
02:13:39.600 --> 02:13:43.479
maybe three arcade games here at this
point. But there were a lot back

2165
02:13:43.520 --> 02:13:46.319
then, weren't there. I had
like four or something I thought it was

2166
02:13:46.399 --> 02:13:50.079
more than that. I don't know, I thought that flecks on the stuff

2167
02:13:50.079 --> 02:13:52.560
that we just had. That's right. Some of those machines belong to you

2168
02:13:52.680 --> 02:13:56.279
guys. Yeah, so like like
your blizz machines that wasn't mine. That

2169
02:13:56.399 --> 02:14:03.520
was the Office of Blitz machine.
We had that Neo Geo Force lad that

2170
02:14:03.640 --> 02:14:09.279
was Jerry's. I don't know.
Yeah. Yeah, it's nice having some

2171
02:14:09.359 --> 02:14:13.399
Marcade games around. Yeah, it's
fun to listen to anyway that kickstarters out

2172
02:14:13.399 --> 02:14:16.520
there. If you want to see
the Adams family in the pinball arcade,

2173
02:14:18.359 --> 02:14:20.279
and you do. They've made good
on their past kickstarters, But putting that

2174
02:14:20.279 --> 02:14:22.760
stuff out it's a little weird if
you're the sort of person who buys the

2175
02:14:22.800 --> 02:14:28.079
season pass for their their seasons of
tables and because then you're effectively buying the

2176
02:14:28.119 --> 02:14:33.159
table twice, oh, which I
have done. Yeah, and that sort

2177
02:14:33.199 --> 02:14:35.479
of sucks. At a certain point, it seems like you wouldn't want to

2178
02:14:35.600 --> 02:14:37.960
do that again until you just you
know, just wait and kickstart tables that

2179
02:14:39.039 --> 02:14:41.239
you want as they happen, I
guess, but yeah, I mean their

2180
02:14:41.239 --> 02:14:45.159
production process must be super ironed out
at this point, Like, yeah,

2181
02:14:45.399 --> 02:14:48.439
you can probably back with confidence on
that one. If you're into that,

2182
02:14:48.520 --> 02:14:52.079
I keep meaning to check that thing
out. What does that on? Because

2183
02:14:52.079 --> 02:14:54.119
like I've played everything that's on everything. Yeah, this is different than like

2184
02:14:54.159 --> 02:14:58.039
the zen pinball thing. Yeah it
is. Is these are all real pinball

2185
02:14:58.039 --> 02:15:01.359
machines, not stuff that they're just
making up. Uh, it's it's all.

2186
02:15:01.479 --> 02:15:03.640
It's on PS four like, yeah, it's on PS four, it's

2187
02:15:03.680 --> 02:15:05.239
on PS three, it's on Vita, it's on that's PC, it's on

2188
02:15:05.319 --> 02:15:07.640
iOS. Yeah, it's all over. It's play well because like I love

2189
02:15:07.680 --> 02:15:09.800
the zen pen it does play well. I think well, I think it

2190
02:15:09.840 --> 02:15:13.520
play is way better than the zen
pinballs. Yeah, and it's got like

2191
02:15:13.520 --> 02:15:16.640
a two one and everything. Yeah, I think you said thought the iPad

2192
02:15:16.760 --> 02:15:18.479
version is still the one to good, right, I still like the I

2193
02:15:18.560 --> 02:15:20.399
like the iPad version a lot.
The PC versions good. I just I

2194
02:15:20.520 --> 02:15:24.479
just plaid is the right like layout? That's that seems like if they're on

2195
02:15:24.560 --> 02:15:26.840
the go, like it's it's a
really good thing to play on the air

2196
02:15:26.920 --> 02:15:31.399
plane. For example, what's the
name of it, the pinball Arcade?

2197
02:15:31.600 --> 02:15:33.640
Okay, I'm gonna get that.
Why aren't you playing that instead of devid

2198
02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:35.600
a supercard When you're waiting for your
plate because I've played so much of it

2199
02:15:37.119 --> 02:15:39.319
and also, like i've I've kind
of taken to play it on the PC.

2200
02:15:39.720 --> 02:15:41.359
Okay, which is high res looks
better than that's our stuff? So

2201
02:15:41.520 --> 02:15:45.560
does I have good leader words stuff
like Zen? It's not terrific. Okay,

2202
02:15:45.640 --> 02:15:46.920
No, it definitely not as good
as that stuff that's great with it?

2203
02:15:48.640 --> 02:15:50.119
Yeah, I will say in Zen's
credit, I mean they don't have

2204
02:15:50.319 --> 02:15:54.520
the nostalgia factor. I will say
that if they're gonna make up tables,

2205
02:15:54.560 --> 02:15:56.880
at least they're kind of doing some
wacky ship that you couldn't do in a

2206
02:15:56.920 --> 02:16:01.199
real table. Yeah, it's kind
are they're taking some kind of a plice

2207
02:16:01.199 --> 02:16:05.239
to see them like stretch creative like
Sonics pinball. Yeah, just like that.

2208
02:16:07.800 --> 02:16:11.199
Thank you, Dan. I'm thinking
too, all right, Louise has

2209
02:16:11.239 --> 02:16:18.000
a question. It's terrible. Yeah, Sonics pinball is fucking hot garbage.

2210
02:16:18.319 --> 02:16:22.359
The movement is so it's funny.
It's funny you mention that because crew Ball

2211
02:16:22.520 --> 02:16:28.000
you want to play this pinball game
crew Ball? Crew Ball ever come out

2212
02:16:28.039 --> 02:16:31.720
on turbographics. Now that was all
alien crush And I was gonna say I

2213
02:16:31.840 --> 02:16:33.840
was thinking about Devil's crushing? Were
those games in good? There are?

2214
02:16:33.920 --> 02:16:39.040
Right? Okay? I was never
a huge fan. Wow of those Motley

2215
02:16:39.120 --> 02:16:43.600
Crue and Cousin Roses both got pinball
huh yeah, didn't kiss? Also,

2216
02:16:43.799 --> 02:16:48.479
oh there has to be a kiss
absolutely, you know. Yeah, they

2217
02:16:48.520 --> 02:16:52.520
never make a journey table or they
just had to be satisfied with the arcade

2218
02:16:52.680 --> 02:16:56.559
Arcade game poison. Whatever happened to
the Metallica car Combat game that I heard

2219
02:16:56.559 --> 02:17:00.760
about? Like that got killed?
It did? Okay? I remember really

2220
02:17:00.840 --> 02:17:03.319
wanting to play that. Was that
just gonna be like a Twisted Metal clone?

2221
02:17:03.319 --> 02:17:05.479
When when was this happening? Yeah, I want to say like early

2222
02:17:05.639 --> 02:17:09.639
two thousands, maybe even late nineties. Yeah, I remember I really wanted

2223
02:17:09.639 --> 02:17:13.600
to play. Oh my god,
that fucking who was making this? I

2224
02:17:13.639 --> 02:17:16.719
don't know. I want to read
about that, that's huh. I want

2225
02:17:16.719 --> 02:17:20.280
to see footage of it, the
GDC post mortem on that one. I

2226
02:17:20.360 --> 02:17:24.399
can't imagine development for PS two Okay, yeah, I can't imagine that.

2227
02:17:24.440 --> 02:17:26.879
I'd have been ending up on Unseen
sixty four dot net, which is a

2228
02:17:26.959 --> 02:17:31.440
pretty good site for unreleased games and
stuff. So much concept art here.

2229
02:17:31.000 --> 02:17:35.799
Black Label Games was working on it. Are you playing like as Hetfield and

2230
02:17:35.879 --> 02:17:39.959
stuff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they should have made a zazy top

2231
02:17:41.040 --> 02:17:43.159
one with all of their cars.
Yeah, yep, that is James Hetfield

2232
02:17:43.200 --> 02:17:46.920
with a mini gun. Yeah it
looks like it. All right, I'm

2233
02:17:46.959 --> 02:17:50.719
kind of glad that never came out. Well woe Crush Hour came and took

2234
02:17:50.719 --> 02:17:54.959
the wind out of its sales.
Yeah there's there's more. Yeah, yeah,

2235
02:17:56.000 --> 02:17:58.360
yeah, there's a cuts. I
think that there's a video of this

2236
02:17:58.479 --> 02:18:01.399
game there, but I think it
might just be the like opening cut scene

2237
02:18:01.440 --> 02:18:03.760
or the trailer they put out to
announce it or something. But yeah,

2238
02:18:05.079 --> 02:18:09.280
it's out game. Man sounthing awesome
killed into the officially killed in two thousand

2239
02:18:09.280 --> 02:18:13.760
and five. Oh well I was
around for a while. All right.

2240
02:18:13.319 --> 02:18:20.280
Luise has a question. Can you
explain your website? It's a website above

2241
02:18:20.360 --> 02:18:22.200
video we have we have a video
for that. Oh you know, yeah,

2242
02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:26.559
well that's true. Would you have
an actual video for that work?

2243
02:18:26.639 --> 02:18:33.559
Where can you find that? Searching
the video search box video thing? Colin,

2244
02:18:33.639 --> 02:18:37.760
it's a website, oh that video? Yeah? Oh you mean the

2245
02:18:37.840 --> 02:18:43.840
original video? Yeah? Yeah sure. If you want to know about our

2246
02:18:43.959 --> 02:18:46.200
premium offering, yes, premium.
I think that's more what he's getting at

2247
02:18:46.360 --> 02:18:50.200
you know, yeah, they're there
are resources on the site that should fill

2248
02:18:50.280 --> 02:18:54.399
in those questions for real. Butm
dot com slash upgrade yep, yep,

2249
02:18:54.440 --> 02:18:58.479
he's got a pretty good animated But
I just good animated. I just I

2250
02:18:58.639 --> 02:19:03.159
just like the email and I wanted
to see joke answers it would get.

2251
02:19:03.719 --> 02:19:07.520
My name is Luise. I came
here across your podcast and may looking for

2252
02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:09.799
stuff to listen to during a twenty
three hour drive from Michigan to Texas.

2253
02:19:11.079 --> 02:19:16.360
Boy, good stuff. Thanks.
I recently subscribed to watch Drew play what

2254
02:19:16.440 --> 02:19:20.440
seems like is his first video game
ever. Actually, I'm sorry, I

2255
02:19:20.600 --> 02:19:22.639
forgot that. When I pulled this
email earlier, I forgot he had already

2256
02:19:22.639 --> 02:19:28.440
subscribed. Can you explain all those
other shows and videos that come with subscribing?

2257
02:19:28.559 --> 02:19:31.879
Is there any important giant bomb lore
I need to know from before June

2258
02:19:31.959 --> 02:19:35.719
twenty fourteen. No. By the
way, I'll probably listen to the commercial

2259
02:19:35.760 --> 02:19:43.280
filled podcast anyway, because those are
hilarious. Farewell small businessmen. Yeah,

2260
02:19:43.440 --> 02:19:48.280
I don't know. I think the
thing that we keep in mind is that

2261
02:19:48.680 --> 02:19:54.399
we haven't really given up on any
ideas. We have a big I have

2262
02:19:54.440 --> 02:19:56.399
a big document of like all the
all the PREMIOUM stuff we've ever done.

2263
02:19:56.559 --> 02:20:01.360
Yes, and I'd like to go
back to a lot of it, For

2264
02:20:01.479 --> 02:20:05.799
example, Giant I'm unplugged. That's
a great idea to tap into more.

2265
02:20:05.920 --> 02:20:09.440
There's been a lot of people talking
about that lately. Internally, it seems

2266
02:20:09.479 --> 02:20:11.760
like enough people were saying it out
loud that it said someone's eventually going to

2267
02:20:11.760 --> 02:20:15.079
will it back into existence. I
just said it on a podcast, so

2268
02:20:15.239 --> 02:20:20.399
and I interested swollen. I don't
like saying things like that because then everyone's

2269
02:20:20.399 --> 02:20:22.280
like, oh, is it gonna
come out? And I don't know when

2270
02:20:22.319 --> 02:20:24.879
we get you know, when we
do it, we want to make it

2271
02:20:24.959 --> 02:20:26.920
good. So I think we kind
of have the next one somewhat planned out,

2272
02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:30.280
right, if we're thinking of the
same thing. I can't remember,

2273
02:20:31.719 --> 02:20:33.840
oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. It could be like

2274
02:20:35.120 --> 02:20:39.479
you know, one off ye sure, yeah. Like I it's hard to

2275
02:20:39.559 --> 02:20:46.399
even figure out how to approach the
backlog of premium content if you just subscribed.

2276
02:20:46.559 --> 02:20:50.360
There's a lot of people on the
boards that you know, are talking

2277
02:20:50.360 --> 02:20:52.719
about kind of what their favorite pieces
are. So I mean you can go

2278
02:20:52.799 --> 02:20:54.879
in the conversation on that stuff.
Yeah, you can go into the subscription

2279
02:20:56.200 --> 02:20:58.760
tab it's it's called subscriber. It's
like, if you hover over the videos

2280
02:20:58.799 --> 02:21:01.840
tab, you click subscriber, which
should really be premium. I need to

2281
02:21:01.879 --> 02:21:03.879
talk to the engineers about that and
change it. I think we can just

2282
02:21:03.920 --> 02:21:07.520
rename it. Yeah, I talked
to him about it. It was like,

2283
02:21:07.200 --> 02:21:09.959
yeah, break much stuff anyway.
You can go there actually break a

2284
02:21:11.000 --> 02:21:13.239
bunch of shit. Yep. Yeah, you can go in there and you

2285
02:21:13.319 --> 02:21:18.479
know, click back and through and
stuff and you're weird stuff. Indeed,

2286
02:21:20.399 --> 02:21:22.760
if there's a lot of comments on
it, it's probably pretty good. Yeah,

2287
02:21:22.799 --> 02:21:26.040
that's a good barometer, I guess. Yeah, and they're you know,

2288
02:21:26.040 --> 02:21:30.399
they're various posts or are real bad. I was gonna say, like

2289
02:21:30.440 --> 02:21:33.719
that Metro Quick look, I love
that. Whoa did you watch it?

2290
02:21:33.479 --> 02:21:39.120
Yeah? People really like that game. I don't. Yeah, I know,

2291
02:21:39.200 --> 02:21:43.440
I know. Yeah, I'm mostly
with you on that. And yeah

2292
02:21:43.479 --> 02:21:48.159
I don't. I don't I read
those books. Oh wow, yeah,

2293
02:21:48.239 --> 02:21:50.559
okay, well, yeah, I
was not in the mood to play that

2294
02:21:50.639 --> 02:21:54.479
game that I know you were.
I think that came through on the video

2295
02:21:54.200 --> 02:21:58.879
indeed. Yeah. But yeah,
there's you know, there's some chatter on

2296
02:21:58.879 --> 02:22:03.319
our forums. You know, somebody
might even make a topic if they want

2297
02:22:03.360 --> 02:22:05.559
to help this guy out, help
Luis out. I believe that topic ard

2298
02:22:07.360 --> 02:22:09.479
he's still there. Okay. Yeah. When I was making that sizzle real

2299
02:22:11.000 --> 02:22:15.239
ah okay, I went through all
those and like picked great, great,

2300
02:22:15.360 --> 02:22:20.000
yeah, yes, that is your
best place to start suggestions. Ted has

2301
02:22:20.040 --> 02:22:24.000
a baffling question. I mostly reading
it because I don't know what the fuck

2302
02:22:24.000 --> 02:22:31.680
he's talking about. Japanese bath culture
documentary. Hey guys, a while back,

2303
02:22:31.719 --> 02:22:35.600
either Brad or Drew mentioned a documentary
on Netflix about Japanese bath culture,

2304
02:22:35.799 --> 02:22:39.120
not me. I don't remember saying
that either. I am leaning more heavily

2305
02:22:39.120 --> 02:22:43.159
towards it being Brad who mentioned it. No, anyways, I can't seem

2306
02:22:43.200 --> 02:22:46.000
to find anything regarding it. Any
chance you remember the name of that one,

2307
02:22:46.520 --> 02:22:52.239
The Japanese bath culture. Can't bathtubs? Well, he's probably talking about

2308
02:22:52.280 --> 02:22:56.520
public baths. What is like a
public bathroom? No, more like a

2309
02:22:56.600 --> 02:23:00.799
group Jaccuz, it's like a giant
sauna. Giant Oh okay, I'm not

2310
02:23:00.840 --> 02:23:03.040
a sauna, but it's a giant
hot spring type thing. Okay, it's

2311
02:23:03.040 --> 02:23:09.360
a cultural thing. Oh boy,
I don't remember any such discussion. If

2312
02:23:09.399 --> 02:23:11.440
anybody does, I would love to
know about it because now I'm disturbed that

2313
02:23:11.520 --> 02:23:15.959
we might be like talking about things
and then immediately forgetting about I went to

2314
02:23:16.000 --> 02:23:20.399
one in Costa Rica. Yeah,
I went there's the one in Iceland.

2315
02:23:20.559 --> 02:23:24.399
Yeah, Patrick and I went to
m Yeah there is that. We watched

2316
02:23:24.440 --> 02:23:28.079
that documentary on giant bomb dot com. Uh, just talking to a friend

2317
02:23:28.159 --> 02:23:31.440
recently who just came back from Budapest. Apparently public bath through a huge thing

2318
02:23:31.479 --> 02:23:33.239
there. Oh really. Also I
an't go there, so I guess like

2319
02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:37.799
everywhere has public bath except here.
Wait, like at the Gin. No,

2320
02:23:39.319 --> 02:23:45.079
it's usually I think it's usually based
on thermal heat, like hot spring

2321
02:23:45.159 --> 02:23:46.479
type stuff. I think like a
natural hot spring, think like you know,

2322
02:23:46.559 --> 02:23:50.120
like a jacuzzi, but a whole
pool like a giant temperature. Is

2323
02:23:50.159 --> 02:23:52.959
this like the thing in Dante's Peak
that the skinny dippers got burned in?

2324
02:23:54.479 --> 02:23:56.719
Kind of Okay, then I know
what that is. Okay. Yeah,

2325
02:23:56.479 --> 02:24:01.319
there's that film degree coming in handy. Yeah there are you That seems intense.

2326
02:24:01.559 --> 02:24:05.559
Yeah. Yeah. Also when Chris
Browsing gets trapped in the tunnel and

2327
02:24:05.639 --> 02:24:09.559
is uh it gets a compound fracture
in his arm. Yeah, that's that's

2328
02:24:09.639 --> 02:24:13.159
real. That's real scary too.
Yeah. And when that was it?

2329
02:24:13.360 --> 02:24:18.000
Was it a guy that jumps out
of his jump into a lake or something

2330
02:24:18.360 --> 02:24:22.479
and everyone dies. Are you thinking
about in volcano when the fireman jumps out

2331
02:24:22.479 --> 02:24:24.840
the back of the subway train melts. Yeah, that melts, and that

2332
02:24:24.959 --> 02:24:28.879
was super intense. That is volcano. That's volcano. There's another one where

2333
02:24:28.920 --> 02:24:33.600
I think old people jump out of
their cabin into lava, or they jump

2334
02:24:33.639 --> 02:24:37.879
out of a canoe into a burning
lake. That's batteries not included. A

2335
02:24:37.959 --> 02:24:41.719
movie, good, lightful film.
It's a delightful film, is it like?

2336
02:24:41.360 --> 02:24:45.000
Because I remember liking it as a
kid when I saw it in the

2337
02:24:45.040 --> 02:24:46.120
theater, me too. It was
a delightful film, but i'd I haven't

2338
02:24:46.120 --> 02:24:48.600
seen it since then. I don't
know if it holds up. I don't

2339
02:24:48.600 --> 02:24:50.440
know if it was good in the
first place. I don't know. Kids

2340
02:24:50.840 --> 02:24:56.399
kids don't have taste terrible. I
don't know what that is. I caught

2341
02:24:56.440 --> 02:25:01.159
it on TV as a kid.
I think it's like your house gets struck

2342
02:25:01.200 --> 02:25:05.440
by lightning or something and then all
your appliances try to kill you. Cool.

2343
02:25:05.520 --> 02:25:11.200
Yeah that happens. You know it's
not good now short circuit mm hmm.

2344
02:25:11.360 --> 02:25:13.479
I tried to watch it a few
years ago. It has not held

2345
02:25:13.559 --> 02:25:20.639
up. Well, if you're an
adult, Ali cheating, she's she and

2346
02:25:20.760 --> 02:25:24.559
that. Yeah that sounds all right, Stefan need change color. But is

2347
02:25:24.600 --> 02:25:28.159
that the one? Is that the
one with? Yeah, that's okay,

2348
02:25:28.760 --> 02:25:33.760
making sure I made a sequel,
yep, all right, yep, Devin,

2349
02:25:33.879 --> 02:25:39.200
I watched those movies all a lot. Devin from Olympia, Washington has

2350
02:25:39.360 --> 02:25:43.079
an email that he describes as not
much of a question. Great, last

2351
02:25:43.159 --> 02:25:46.000
night I had a dream that I
was a getaway driver for fifty cent in

2352
02:25:46.079 --> 02:25:48.879
his gang. Would you play a
game where you were a grunt in fifty

2353
02:25:48.920 --> 02:25:52.559
cents Gang Empire instead of being him? Yeah? It was Blood on the

2354
02:25:52.639 --> 02:25:58.600
Sand was told as members of units, and you could be Lloyd Banks could

2355
02:25:58.600 --> 02:26:05.000
be the game. Nope, nope, Tony Yo young Buck. No,

2356
02:26:05.159 --> 02:26:09.239
Young Buck was out at that point. It was was djo who kids really?

2357
02:26:09.520 --> 02:26:11.520
Yeah? Was the game ever part
of the unit? Yeah? There

2358
02:26:11.520 --> 02:26:15.120
were, yeah, kind of not
naturally, but they put him with g

2359
02:26:15.360 --> 02:26:18.159
unit when he first got signed,
all those marketing things. Yeah, and

2360
02:26:18.200 --> 02:26:22.719
then then they immediately started yeah beef, and and then the mixtapes were good

2361
02:26:22.319 --> 02:26:26.280
okay, and then game got out. Yeah, there's a whole. It's

2362
02:26:26.360 --> 02:26:28.239
kind of like kind of like Drey
and Stoop Dogg were never like they didn't

2363
02:26:28.239 --> 02:26:31.959
come up together exactly, but they
both signed a death Row, so all

2364
02:26:31.000 --> 02:26:33.840
of a sudden they were part of
a crew. Well Dre was death Row

2365
02:26:35.040 --> 02:26:37.079
a time, but yes, more
or less, yeah he was. Yeah,

2366
02:26:37.920 --> 02:26:45.360
but yes, all right, Uh, fifty cents kind of like done

2367
02:26:45.600 --> 02:26:48.399
right, just put an album out. Really, I thought he. I

2368
02:26:48.440 --> 02:26:52.680
thought he took all that vitamin water
money and just like bailed. Yeah,

2369
02:26:52.000 --> 02:26:54.319
you know, it's it's I mean, the album's not good. It seemed

2370
02:26:54.319 --> 02:27:01.959
like g Units getting back together and
young Buck is with them, and I

2371
02:27:01.959 --> 02:27:07.399
don't I don't know that anyone wants
that. I certainly don't. There is

2372
02:27:07.440 --> 02:27:11.680
a bar two blocks for me that
is constantly playing the entire first Unit album

2373
02:27:11.879 --> 02:27:16.360
Weird Yeah, which I'm trying to
remember what the hell the name of it

2374
02:27:16.479 --> 02:27:18.520
was, but they will play it
from like track one, two, track

2375
02:27:18.600 --> 02:27:20.760
thirteen or whatever. Why not from
like two thousand and one? Jeez?

2376
02:27:22.520 --> 02:27:26.559
Yeah that's uh. Yeah. I
feel like fifty cent just at some point

2377
02:27:26.639 --> 02:27:31.760
became like a weird mockery of himself
or something where it's just like I don't

2378
02:27:31.760 --> 02:27:35.680
know, I felt like I saw
him spending far too much of his own

2379
02:27:35.719 --> 02:27:39.319
time making fun of people on Twitter, Floyd Mayweather for not being able to

2380
02:27:39.399 --> 02:27:43.719
read and stuff. Yeah that was
just like, yeah, fifty cent that's

2381
02:27:43.879 --> 02:27:48.399
you don't like it just became like
it used to work for him when he

2382
02:27:48.440 --> 02:27:52.159
was very popular, to start feuds
with people and then use that to sell

2383
02:27:52.239 --> 02:27:56.680
records. But now it just looks
like this desperate grasp for relevance. Sure,

2384
02:27:56.799 --> 02:28:01.040
yeah, I just yeah, I
don't think he has probably not a

2385
02:28:01.079 --> 02:28:05.639
lot more fifty cent games forthcoming.
Oh yeah, that is unfortunate, but

2386
02:28:05.760 --> 02:28:07.559
you were probably right. Doesn't have
his skull either. Get yeah you never

2387
02:28:07.639 --> 02:28:13.360
got the skull. Yeah, never
got it back. Uh, Pat says

2388
02:28:13.520 --> 02:28:18.879
Dan does yoga. Dan seems to
hate anything fancy in quotes, but during

2389
02:28:18.920 --> 02:28:24.040
upf he showed an advanced knowledge of
yoga. What up with that? I've

2390
02:28:24.079 --> 02:28:28.040
done yoga for years? Go on. I think people might think I'm more

2391
02:28:28.079 --> 02:28:31.719
closed minded than I actually am,
Like I would give them that I don't

2392
02:28:31.719 --> 02:28:39.120
even know it's uh uh yeah,
no, it's uh. I always assumed

2393
02:28:39.239 --> 02:28:41.200
it was a just kind of new
age hippy hippy, you know, bullshit

2394
02:28:41.319 --> 02:28:46.280
stuff, and I hate that stuff
and certainly there are classes and stuff that

2395
02:28:46.280 --> 02:28:48.239
you can go to, and they're
big on the spiritual crap or whatever,

2396
02:28:48.319 --> 02:28:54.799
which I hate that I just quotes
while you hold poses, yeah, and

2397
02:28:54.879 --> 02:28:56.000
the chanting and the alms and everything, like I don't do any of that

2398
02:28:56.040 --> 02:28:58.079
shit. I do it well,
honestly. The one I've done the most

2399
02:28:58.159 --> 02:29:01.639
is DDP yoga, which I actually
do like a lot. But I've gotten

2400
02:29:01.639 --> 02:29:05.719
a tons of Diamond Dallas Page,
Yeah, Damon Dallas Page. Yeah,

2401
02:29:05.920 --> 02:29:09.559
the Namas day Cutter, but no, I've gotten to tons of like actual

2402
02:29:09.600 --> 02:29:11.879
classes and stuff. I just signed
up for like a thirty day pass for

2403
02:29:13.000 --> 02:29:16.399
like a hot yoga thing in San
Francisco that does not sound fun. I'm

2404
02:29:16.479 --> 02:29:20.479
looking forward to trying it. Regular
yoga seems fine, but like the hot

2405
02:29:20.600 --> 02:29:24.959
version never done. There's one up
in the Richmond that I signed up.

2406
02:29:24.120 --> 02:29:26.319
How hot are we talking? I
think they bring it up. It's over

2407
02:29:26.360 --> 02:29:30.680
a hundred I think my room.
I want to say, oh yeah,

2408
02:29:31.200 --> 02:29:35.879
is it purely just to make you
sweat muscle relaxing thing? Like what's the

2409
02:29:35.920 --> 02:29:37.159
point. I don't know. I've
asked people to do and some people swear

2410
02:29:37.200 --> 02:29:39.680
by it, and some people say
it's just like you feel like you've done

2411
02:29:39.719 --> 02:29:43.079
more at the end. So I
kind of wanted to try out personally and

2412
02:29:43.159 --> 02:29:46.159
to see what I thought. But
yeah, I mean that's you know,

2413
02:29:46.200 --> 02:29:48.159
I'm not gonna like act like I'm
too cool for this stuff, like oh

2414
02:29:48.360 --> 02:29:52.040
i gotta play up this character and
I don't do yoga. It's hippi crap.

2415
02:29:52.079 --> 02:29:54.479
I know I do that like I
do yoga and I meditate and like

2416
02:29:54.600 --> 02:29:56.280
I you know, so yoga is
no anime, is what you're saying.

2417
02:29:58.200 --> 02:30:00.440
It is no anime? No no, all right, So yeah, I

2418
02:30:00.440 --> 02:30:03.479
know it's it proved itself as a
really good workout. I lost like thirty

2419
02:30:03.520 --> 02:30:05.920
pounds over one winner doing it,
and uh yeah, it's it was.

2420
02:30:07.000 --> 02:30:09.799
It's been more effective than any other
workout I've done. So you think that

2421
02:30:09.920 --> 02:30:11.639
the DDP yoga is a good entry
point, I think it's. It's it's

2422
02:30:11.680 --> 02:30:16.399
a fantastic one, especially if you're
gonna do one at home. Like hearing

2423
02:30:16.440 --> 02:30:20.680
you so hearing you describe DDP yoga
and how he renames the form. Yeah,

2424
02:30:20.120 --> 02:30:24.159
part of actually, like, as
someone who likes wrestling, I still

2425
02:30:24.239 --> 02:30:26.559
find that really corny in a way
that it kind of I find it it

2426
02:30:26.639 --> 02:30:30.319
sounds off putting yeah, and I
do too, Like whenever he does some

2427
02:30:30.360 --> 02:30:33.200
of those dumb names or whatever,
I think it's cheesy and stupid that instead

2428
02:30:33.200 --> 02:30:35.959
of warrior, it's you know,
it's like, oh, but drums up

2429
02:30:35.000 --> 02:30:39.200
in the touchdown and like, oh, instead, uh, was it a

2430
02:30:39.719 --> 02:30:43.079
child pose? It's get down in
the safety zone, and it's you know,

2431
02:30:43.200 --> 02:30:45.680
he does some of that stuff because
it's just it sounds like it's trying

2432
02:30:45.719 --> 02:30:48.600
a little too hard to be like
yoga for dudes. That was the original

2433
02:30:48.639 --> 02:30:50.399
The original name of it was it's
y RG. It still is YRG.

2434
02:30:50.479 --> 02:30:54.840
It's yoga for regular guys. And
he used to be really bad about it,

2435
02:30:54.959 --> 02:30:56.159
like in the mid two thousands.
It was just like, hey,

2436
02:30:56.280 --> 02:30:58.479
you know, we're gonna get a
bunch of hot chicks and we're gonna show

2437
02:30:58.479 --> 02:31:01.760
a lot of cleveand like he classed
it up a lot like what the one

2438
02:31:01.799 --> 02:31:05.000
I do. He calls it yoga
for regular guys and gals now and it's

2439
02:31:05.079 --> 02:31:09.600
not like a TNA type thing where
I think he was trying way too hard

2440
02:31:09.639 --> 02:31:11.079
at first of that stuff. The
whole thing comes off as like, ah,

2441
02:31:11.159 --> 02:31:15.600
this is for guys who are not
scaring their masculinity and worry they're doing

2442
02:31:15.639 --> 02:31:18.520
girly stuff. I think he still
tries to do some of that stuff.

2443
02:31:18.559 --> 02:31:20.280
But from what I've seen of that
first one, I've never actually done the

2444
02:31:20.360 --> 02:31:24.040
original one. It's way better now, but I mean there's plenty of actual

2445
02:31:24.079 --> 02:31:28.360
classes on there. You find it's
hard to like achieve like a good form

2446
02:31:28.719 --> 02:31:31.319
with a video when you don't have
someone there going like, dude, your

2447
02:31:31.520 --> 02:31:33.479
back is not It does help,
like if you're doing like a pose or

2448
02:31:33.520 --> 02:31:37.079
something, you're really doing it wrong, it helps if there's someone to come

2449
02:31:37.120 --> 02:31:39.799
over and do an adjustment or something. And also there's something to be said

2450
02:31:39.799 --> 02:31:43.719
about just variety, because like I've
done every one of those DDP videos like

2451
02:31:43.159 --> 02:31:48.239
probably thirty forty times each phone.
When they like when a class introduces you

2452
02:31:48.360 --> 02:31:50.520
to a new one, you're like, oh I how do I Okay,

2453
02:31:52.079 --> 02:31:54.319
we're doing this introvision thing and now
I'm upside down. I holy crap,

2454
02:31:54.319 --> 02:31:56.159
I didn't know I could do this, Like yeah, whereas you know what

2455
02:31:56.200 --> 02:31:58.959
you're getting with a video series.
So yeah, no, I'd super recommended

2456
02:32:00.040 --> 02:32:03.879
anyone. I've recommended that to anyone
who's asking about it. Yeah, well

2457
02:32:03.920 --> 02:32:11.559
great. Harvey from England says,
lads I want to ask you about the

2458
02:32:11.639 --> 02:32:15.600
ever present to please adjust your screen
brightness until the logo is very visible mini

2459
02:32:15.680 --> 02:32:20.000
game that preludes most games nowadays.
What constitutes barely Does it mean invisible?

2460
02:32:20.440 --> 02:32:24.319
Almost invisible? I ask because I
set mind on destiny to what I considered

2461
02:32:24.360 --> 02:32:28.680
barely visible and found the game really
uncomfortably hard to see. What sort of

2462
02:32:28.719 --> 02:32:31.280
brightness do you run games at?
And why do I have to decide?

2463
02:32:31.360 --> 02:32:35.079
I worry I've selected too dark every
time, impairying my experience. I feel

2464
02:32:35.120 --> 02:32:39.680
like I end up usually choosing one
higher than they probably want you to do.

2465
02:32:39.879 --> 02:32:43.360
I have stopped taking their recommendation about
that stuff. I tend to go

2466
02:32:43.440 --> 02:32:48.719
a little brighter than they like.
Yeah, I think barely visible means things

2467
02:32:48.799 --> 02:32:52.360
that you would expect to be barely
visible. This is what they will look

2468
02:32:52.440 --> 02:32:56.479
like, I always suggest accordingly.
I always took it as like, move

2469
02:32:56.520 --> 02:32:58.719
it all the way to the left
as dark as possible, and then just

2470
02:32:58.799 --> 02:33:01.520
do one pip at a time.
The first time you see that far left

2471
02:33:01.559 --> 02:33:03.120
one, and that's how I read
it. But then I always find that

2472
02:33:03.159 --> 02:33:09.520
too dark. Maybe make that a
comfortable brightness. I feel like I'm turning

2473
02:33:09.559 --> 02:33:13.360
most games up one notch brightness wise
on my TV that I have at home.

2474
02:33:13.360 --> 02:33:15.000
I mean, I canna understand.
They don't want it to look too

2475
02:33:15.040 --> 02:33:18.639
blown out, yeah or washed out. But if you can't see stuff,

2476
02:33:18.680 --> 02:33:22.399
well that's a problem. Yeah,
So I've stopped ignoring that stuff. Those

2477
02:33:22.399 --> 02:33:28.479
things aren't I don't find those things
quite as overbearing as the uh like the

2478
02:33:28.719 --> 02:33:31.360
little kind of the tweel little graphics
you get on like a lot of iOS

2479
02:33:31.399 --> 02:33:33.440
games when you boot them up,
of like a picture of a head with

2480
02:33:33.520 --> 02:33:35.399
headphones on or whatever. Yeah,
Like, I first, I don't know

2481
02:33:35.479 --> 02:33:37.559
why you should wear headphones. I
don't know why that you. I don't

2482
02:33:37.559 --> 02:33:39.600
know why that runs me the wrong
way so much. But like if it

2483
02:33:39.719 --> 02:33:43.360
fucks snobby, like our music is
so good, I really appreciate it,

2484
02:33:43.440 --> 02:33:46.120
you have to be wearing head especially
because if it's a game that I remotely

2485
02:33:46.159 --> 02:33:48.760
care about the aesthetics of, I'm
gonna put heaphones on anyway so I can

2486
02:33:48.879 --> 02:33:52.760
hear it. But it's like,
don't tell me to come on, just

2487
02:33:52.879 --> 02:33:58.200
be cool. Yep, that's all. I never wear headphones. So I

2488
02:33:58.280 --> 02:34:01.200
mean an other are right now putting
soundtracks. O god, I am.

2489
02:34:03.120 --> 02:34:09.639
It's a fucking nightmare. All right, Brad, you son of a bitch,

2490
02:34:11.559 --> 02:34:16.040
says Ryan. M h that checks
out. On un professional Friday,

2491
02:34:16.120 --> 02:34:18.239
you mentioned you didn't like Majora's masks. You said you didn't want to redo

2492
02:34:18.319 --> 02:34:22.760
the dungeons after setting the time back
to day one. I just look up

2493
02:34:22.799 --> 02:34:24.959
the time to beat the game,
and I realized I was trying to convince

2494
02:34:24.040 --> 02:34:26.360
some guy on the internet to play
a game. I like, I don't

2495
02:34:26.399 --> 02:34:28.520
even love it. Oh god,
what am I doing with my life?

2496
02:34:28.600 --> 02:34:31.520
Oh god? See exactly, like
Ryan, bullshit? Ryan, Like,

2497
02:34:31.639 --> 02:34:35.040
more generally, Ryan, you've taken
an important step. Yeah, here exactly

2498
02:34:35.559 --> 02:34:41.200
in the discourse around our hobby,
like, just let it go. Spot

2499
02:34:41.319 --> 02:34:45.040
the end of the world. He
should go post in the metro quick Look

2500
02:34:45.079 --> 02:34:46.799
thread. If people don't like something
you don't like or that you do like,

2501
02:34:48.559 --> 02:34:54.000
I salute to a salute your progress. Yeah. Also, that game's

2502
02:34:54.040 --> 02:34:58.280
bullshit. I didn't enjoy it that
damn. Also I didn't played like five

2503
02:34:58.319 --> 02:35:01.520
minutes. I didn't know. Oh, I played through the entire first dungeon.

2504
02:35:01.680 --> 02:35:03.440
Okay, one dungeon. Think I
got like, granted this was what

2505
02:35:03.639 --> 02:35:07.159
that was a nineteen nine No,
this is the decu Like when you're a

2506
02:35:07.200 --> 02:35:09.799
little. I don't know, dude, it was foot fifteen years ago.

2507
02:35:09.280 --> 02:35:13.479
It's so good. I remember being
close to or at the end of the

2508
02:35:13.520 --> 02:35:16.000
first dungeon when like the tim or
ticked over. I remember finding that game

2509
02:35:16.040 --> 02:35:18.559
to be like the only the only
thing I remember about it these days is

2510
02:35:18.600 --> 02:35:22.799
I remember that game being an overbearing
hassle, yes, and not worth my

2511
02:35:22.879 --> 02:35:26.280
time. That's how it felt to
me. Was like feeling like I had

2512
02:35:26.280 --> 02:35:28.799
to do everything on a schedule,
Like what, no, you do have

2513
02:35:28.879 --> 02:35:31.479
to do it on a schedule exactly, log book, Okay, the mailman's

2514
02:35:31.479 --> 02:35:33.559
going to be here at this time
or whatever, and so there's this kind

2515
02:35:33.559 --> 02:35:37.840
of like test or whatever trap.
I'm done fucking writing down when shit happened.

2516
02:35:37.959 --> 02:35:41.200
Yeah, I like writing stuff down
with like like FEZ. I had

2517
02:35:41.239 --> 02:35:43.440
like a whole notebook full of like
trying to decipher and alphabet fes was the

2518
02:35:43.479 --> 02:35:46.360
game of the first game that I
took notes and in a very long time.

2519
02:35:46.559 --> 02:35:48.920
That was That was fun in that
case, Yeah, But but I

2520
02:35:48.959 --> 02:35:52.479
didn't feel like I didn't enjoy a
feeling like I had to like hustle to

2521
02:35:52.520 --> 02:35:56.280
get things done. Yeah, in
that game, because I like the prioritization

2522
02:35:56.399 --> 02:36:00.920
you have to do. I'm not
about living my life on some games schedule.

2523
02:36:01.120 --> 02:36:03.360
I don't even fu all schedules,
man, Allifield, excuse me time,

2524
02:36:03.440 --> 02:36:07.239
Ellfiel, excuse me. The strange
coin vendor is about spawn in the

2525
02:36:07.280 --> 02:36:11.399
tower, so I gotta go.
What's that from its destiny thing? Strange

2526
02:36:11.440 --> 02:36:15.000
coin? I don't think Yeah,
they they, I think I mentioned earlier.

2527
02:36:15.079 --> 02:36:18.440
They there was a that's the weird
guy you're talking about vendor, A

2528
02:36:18.520 --> 02:36:20.719
previously unknown vendor showed up in the
tower for like a day and a half

2529
02:36:20.760 --> 02:36:24.479
over the weekend. I've not seen
him yet. Babba Doors mask is one

2530
02:36:24.479 --> 02:36:28.559
of the best all the games.
Well great, no oh yeah, oh

2531
02:36:28.799 --> 02:36:31.680
no, we're doing it wrong.
Let's just just let him have it.

2532
02:36:31.719 --> 02:36:33.840
I don't care. That's not even
you guys are in a minority on that.

2533
02:36:33.920 --> 02:36:37.879
Fine, moving on, I gotta
go to get a haircut. Let's

2534
02:36:37.879 --> 02:36:43.239
keep this going. Uh Ray wants
to know about being in the game industry

2535
02:36:43.319 --> 02:36:48.200
as a programmer. Well, yeah, let us enlighten you as as a

2536
02:36:48.319 --> 02:36:54.520
group of accomplished video game programmers.
Allow us to hold forth. I programmed

2537
02:36:54.840 --> 02:37:01.120
Tapper. I made I think I
know a thing or two. I made

2538
02:37:01.120 --> 02:37:03.639
a car that farts in a little
big planet. Yeah, I made some

2539
02:37:03.760 --> 02:37:09.399
end plus levels. I'm pretty sure
I did some kind of uh elimonade stand

2540
02:37:09.559 --> 02:37:15.600
type game and basic or maybe it
was Pascal I forget which Yeah, that's

2541
02:37:15.600 --> 02:37:18.879
the time I made a couple of
games in processing. Yeah. Yeah,

2542
02:37:18.879 --> 02:37:20.879
I'm in college all right. First
off, I'm a huge fan of you

2543
02:37:20.920 --> 02:37:22.959
guys in the bomb cast coming out
every week is one of the best things

2544
02:37:24.040 --> 02:37:28.639
ever. Currently, I'm a software
developer for a company in Corporate America.

2545
02:37:28.280 --> 02:37:31.159
I've always had the dream of working
in the gaming industry, but never realized

2546
02:37:31.159 --> 02:37:35.000
how to actually break into the industry
or get a job in that field.

2547
02:37:35.959 --> 02:37:37.600
I realized if I'm going to do
it, now is the time. I

2548
02:37:37.639 --> 02:37:43.399
would have never gone into programming without
games. My question is what is the

2549
02:37:43.440 --> 02:37:46.440
best way to get into the gaming
industry as a programmer. Any advice would

2550
02:37:46.440 --> 02:37:50.040
be awesome to hear. I would
probably start applying for jobs. Yeah,

2551
02:37:50.280 --> 02:37:54.440
with your resume and samples and that's
stuff. Like, you know, hopefully

2552
02:37:54.440 --> 02:37:58.879
you have some stuff that you've programmed
right for Corporate America that you know overlaps

2553
02:37:58.000 --> 02:38:01.719
is impressive and has like a little
bit over that. But just have a

2554
02:38:01.799 --> 02:38:03.040
huge portfolio I think that goes for
so many different well, you know,

2555
02:38:03.079 --> 02:38:05.680
also, I think a lot of
you know, once you get to the

2556
02:38:05.760 --> 02:38:07.520
interview process, a lot of it
is just about what you can do on

2557
02:38:07.639 --> 02:38:13.520
the fly. Yeah, most of
the most of the coding jobs I've heard

2558
02:38:13.520 --> 02:38:18.680
about have some pretty crazy like whiteboard
based, right, like questions they come

2559
02:38:18.760 --> 02:38:20.879
up and you know, like you're
just like, here's part of the as

2560
02:38:20.920 --> 02:38:24.440
part of the interview process. I'd
be willing to bet that the tests they

2561
02:38:24.559 --> 02:38:30.360
give programmers for game industry jobs are
very similar to those they give non game

2562
02:38:30.399 --> 02:38:35.040
industry program maybe, yeah, to
see if you have the chops as this

2563
02:38:35.200 --> 02:38:37.799
kind of appropriate. Maybe. Yeah. Obviously if you're coming in something more

2564
02:38:37.840 --> 02:38:39.680
specialized like graphics or networking or something, it should be a little different.

2565
02:38:39.719 --> 02:38:43.360
But but also there's so much there's
so many free rogy resources out there at

2566
02:38:43.399 --> 02:38:46.159
this point, like you could probably
just start thinking around in your spare time

2567
02:38:48.360 --> 02:38:50.399
with like game type of projects.
Yeah, you know, I don't know

2568
02:38:50.520 --> 02:38:56.760
what to build up in what languages
in vogue, Yeah I'm not. Yeah,

2569
02:38:56.799 --> 02:38:58.799
I mean, obviously we're not the
authorities on that. The only other

2570
02:38:58.879 --> 02:39:01.600
thing I would say that's kind of
unnerving about the whole thing is that,

2571
02:39:01.719 --> 02:39:05.200
Like, I very much get the
sense, and like I would love to

2572
02:39:05.239 --> 02:39:07.959
hear from some actual game programmers about
this. And it's not a knock against

2573
02:39:07.000 --> 02:39:11.479
your profession at all, but it
very much sounds like good coding in other

2574
02:39:11.559 --> 02:39:15.479
industries is a lot more comfortable than
it is for video games, you know,

2575
02:39:16.159 --> 02:39:20.239
like more reasonable hours, not insane
crunch every six months or a year,

2576
02:39:20.200 --> 02:39:26.559
like I think, more reasonable pay, definitely better job security. Yeah,

2577
02:39:26.040 --> 02:39:28.639
you know, I don't have to
worry about getting laid off every time

2578
02:39:28.680 --> 02:39:31.719
you ship a big project. But
yeah, that's the thing. You know,

2579
02:39:31.799 --> 02:39:35.600
you're not working on something that you're
passionate, you know, probably designing

2580
02:39:35.680 --> 02:39:39.159
like some banking system is probably not. I've definitely heard nearly as coders on

2581
02:39:39.239 --> 02:39:43.280
games that don't give a fuck about
games. Yes, yes, ever hear

2582
02:39:43.319 --> 02:39:45.840
about that too. Yeah, but
that's kind of the opposite. Yeah,

2583
02:39:46.440 --> 02:39:48.680
this is obviously guy who loves games
and wants to work on them. You

2584
02:39:48.719 --> 02:39:52.120
would have one up on those guys
maybe, ye, who knows. But

2585
02:39:52.239 --> 02:39:54.719
yeah, if you're a coder in
the industry with any thoughts on this,

2586
02:39:54.920 --> 02:39:58.280
you know, I love to hear
about them. Yeah, maybe some commenders

2587
02:39:58.319 --> 02:40:05.559
can jump in the comment brother out
some professional advice. All Right. I

2588
02:40:05.559 --> 02:40:07.879
don't know if Dan, if you're
getting excited about this or whatever, but

2589
02:40:09.680 --> 02:40:15.920
you're effectively the reason that this email
came in. This email is pretty good.

2590
02:40:16.360 --> 02:40:18.920
He asked not to mention his information, so I won't even say his

2591
02:40:20.000 --> 02:40:26.040
name. Hello, bomb cast,
former Disney employee, regardless of the bomb

2592
02:40:26.120 --> 02:40:30.479
cruise reverence towards Walt Disney World.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to

2593
02:40:30.520 --> 02:40:35.399
mention. The subject line of this
is down with Frozen. It's a vicious

2594
02:40:35.440 --> 02:40:39.719
cycle. Every five years, a
new Disney movie comes out of the same

2595
02:40:39.760 --> 02:40:43.360
caliber as Frozen, and Disney shoves
it down everyone's throat. Frozen is a

2596
02:40:43.440 --> 02:40:48.520
filthy, infectious disease that is destroying
Disney from the inside. The fact that

2597
02:40:48.600 --> 02:40:52.319
Dan hasn't been exposed to the abominable
operation that is the Frozen brand brings great

2598
02:40:52.360 --> 02:40:56.120
hope to me. My girlfriend,
who performs as snow White at Walt Disney

2599
02:40:56.200 --> 02:41:01.399
World is losing shifts because Frozen character
haven invaded the parks. Meet and greets

2600
02:41:01.440 --> 02:41:05.760
with the original Disney princesses are being
replaced with Frozen character. Meet and greets,

2601
02:41:05.239 --> 02:41:09.719
rides and areas of park are being
completely overhauled to a company the spread

2602
02:41:09.799 --> 02:41:16.200
of Frozen's plague. Walt Disney is
turning over in his grave vomiting while Frozen

2603
02:41:16.239 --> 02:41:20.000
continues to leech off the soles of
the masses. I don't think that's true

2604
02:41:20.000 --> 02:41:22.360
because his head is frozen somewhere.
Yeah, you can't go to the theme

2605
02:41:22.360 --> 02:41:26.440
parks now without a cast member shoving
a paper Frozen character on a stick in

2606
02:41:26.479 --> 02:41:30.799
your face. It takes every ounce
of my strength to stop myself from ripping

2607
02:41:30.799 --> 02:41:33.479
it into little frozen pieces and pissing
all over it. Love the podcast,

2608
02:41:33.639 --> 02:41:39.559
thanks, ps. The movie was
okay. I mean, kids seem to

2609
02:41:39.639 --> 02:41:41.559
like it a lot, right,
sure that wouldn't it stand a reason that

2610
02:41:41.799 --> 02:41:46.159
it's a big attraction at disney World
and stuff. Yeah, and whatever,

2611
02:41:46.159 --> 02:41:48.360
it's gonna be big for a while. And they don't just you know,

2612
02:41:48.719 --> 02:41:54.239
get thrown in. Well you think
I think Tangled was frozen before Frozen was

2613
02:41:54.319 --> 02:42:00.319
frozen. Yeah, well you gotta
make yeah, okay us wisdom? Yeah,

2614
02:42:00.760 --> 02:42:03.440
finally some of that corn. Also, what is hey? I don't

2615
02:42:03.440 --> 02:42:09.600
know. Finally the sunset. Finally, this earthy Midwestern sage has graced us

2616
02:42:09.639 --> 02:42:15.120
with his knowledge. Duck duck grade, duck Hey, that's Minnesota. Somebody

2617
02:42:15.159 --> 02:42:18.600
wrote somebody. Somebody wrote in somebody
wrote in last week vehemently defending that name

2618
02:42:20.000 --> 02:42:24.079
that Nope, I did not.
Nope, I did not not in this

2619
02:42:24.159 --> 02:42:31.159
podcast. Oh boy, Uh,
this is a long email, but I

2620
02:42:31.239 --> 02:42:33.639
thought it was kind of interesting from
justin. I don't know if it's pretty

2621
02:42:33.680 --> 02:42:37.159
long, But do you want to
know how he skipped his entire senior year?

2622
02:42:37.440 --> 02:42:41.639
Yes, I figured you would like
to compare notes of high school or

2623
02:42:43.799 --> 02:42:46.479
high school. Oh, I actually
went to all starts classes in high school

2624
02:42:46.479 --> 02:42:50.600
and stuff. Yeah. On the
last podcast, Dan was discussing how he

2625
02:42:50.639 --> 02:42:54.079
was able to sneak past multiple courses
in college. I found it absolutely hilarious

2626
02:42:54.120 --> 02:42:56.959
and we need to hear more.
I had a similar situation in high school

2627
02:42:56.000 --> 02:43:00.760
that allowed me bought me to bypass
nearly every class for the entire year.

2628
02:43:01.120 --> 02:43:03.680
After my junior year, my mother
had to move my brother and I to

2629
02:43:03.719 --> 02:43:07.440
Western Washington for a company. Unfortunately, in doing so, nearly all of

2630
02:43:07.479 --> 02:43:11.239
my required credits I had accumulated did
not count at my new school and instead

2631
02:43:11.280 --> 02:43:16.040
got lumped in as my electives.
This created a scenario where I got multiple

2632
02:43:16.079 --> 02:43:18.280
classes of the same subject for different
years. I think he means it at

2633
02:43:18.319 --> 02:43:22.239
the same time, as well as
the fear that I would have to be

2634
02:43:22.280 --> 02:43:24.600
there an extra semester to meet the
requirements. While seeking a way around this

2635
02:43:24.680 --> 02:43:28.120
mess, my counselor advised I reached
out to the teachers and see if they

2636
02:43:28.120 --> 02:43:31.680
would allow me to complete certain course
material to allow the credit. All right,

2637
02:43:31.959 --> 02:43:37.760
So he rattles off some of his
strategies. I started in my history

2638
02:43:37.799 --> 02:43:39.360
class, of which I had three
periods in a row from the same teacher

2639
02:43:39.399 --> 02:43:43.000
of freshman, sophomore, and senior. He gave me a short quiz on

2640
02:43:43.040 --> 02:43:46.719
world history and geography and gave me
for an A for two of the classes.

2641
02:43:46.479 --> 02:43:50.799
I had a short conversation in Spanish
with my Spanish teacher, which resulted

2642
02:43:50.840 --> 02:43:54.360
in an A for two semesters.
As I have been speaking Spanish since age

2643
02:43:54.399 --> 02:43:58.959
four. My math and geometry instructors
just had me do their course final,

2644
02:43:58.040 --> 02:44:01.799
which earned me a B in both
of their courses for two semesters. Piece

2645
02:44:03.319 --> 02:44:05.120
The gym teacher gave me an A
and everything because I played football for him

2646
02:44:05.159 --> 02:44:09.200
and boxed as an extra curricular.
My English teacher had me take a word

2647
02:44:09.239 --> 02:44:13.959
comprehension test and then I asked that
I write book reports in several different books,

2648
02:44:13.479 --> 02:44:16.239
all but one I had already done
and still had because of our senior

2649
02:44:16.280 --> 02:44:22.799
presentation preparation. My entire senior year
consisted of one semester of current world issues

2650
02:44:22.159 --> 02:44:26.600
and one year of remedial science,
which I slept through. I also had

2651
02:44:26.639 --> 02:44:30.239
to take two trimesters of welding due
to my racist counselor, but neglected to

2652
02:44:30.280 --> 02:44:33.879
tell me culinary would have been a
valid occupational course. I guess she thought

2653
02:44:33.920 --> 02:44:37.840
I needed some good manual labor.
I graduated on time without a single person

2654
02:44:37.959 --> 02:44:41.680
knowing my name. Yeah. Wow, So that's solid high school man to

2655
02:44:41.719 --> 02:44:46.079
get those skills that early. His
was a little more technical and a little

2656
02:44:46.159 --> 02:44:48.600
less I don't even know what the
word is for what you did. Didn't

2657
02:44:50.120 --> 02:44:52.399
speaking of high school. So I
was in the gifted program, and you

2658
02:44:52.440 --> 02:44:56.680
could do independent study, so you
could basically take anything you're passionate about.

2659
02:44:56.120 --> 02:45:00.239
And so, like I want to
say, junior year high school did the

2660
02:45:00.239 --> 02:45:03.040
pro wrestling industry. So basically I
would go to like independent shows and stuff,

2661
02:45:03.040 --> 02:45:05.680
and I worked as a ring announcer
for a little bit, and i'd

2662
02:45:05.719 --> 02:45:07.120
be backstage and get them ice when
they got concussions and things like that,

2663
02:45:07.600 --> 02:45:11.879
and so like three of my hours
every day were for the gifted program and

2664
02:45:11.920 --> 02:45:15.280
so it's just I'd just be reading
about wrestling crap or watching wrestling during that.

2665
02:45:15.719 --> 02:45:18.120
And then senior year I got into
video production, but like two or

2666
02:45:18.200 --> 02:45:20.959
three months in I got kicked out
of the video lab. Like they wouldn't

2667
02:45:22.040 --> 02:45:24.200
they would banned me from the video
lab or whatever because I was doing a

2668
02:45:24.239 --> 02:45:26.920
bunch of films on my own that
were deemed too you know, they had

2669
02:45:26.000 --> 02:45:30.159
cussing and violence in it and stuff
you know sometimes and they're like, oh,

2670
02:45:30.200 --> 02:45:31.639
you can't do that. And so
I didn't tell the principle that I

2671
02:45:31.680 --> 02:45:33.799
wasn't allowed in there, but I
wouldn't allow him the class. And I

2672
02:45:33.920 --> 02:45:39.319
worked at the AMC Theater and at
Funco Land, So just three hours every

2673
02:45:39.399 --> 02:45:41.799
day at school, I would just
drive five minutes and I'd either go play

2674
02:45:41.879 --> 02:45:45.159
games for free at funk O Land
or I'd go see movies for free at

2675
02:45:45.200 --> 02:45:48.840
AMC. Just for the whole senior
year at high school. Yeah, I

2676
02:45:50.120 --> 02:45:54.440
ended up stopping. I didn't go
to regular school up by after like November

2677
02:45:54.559 --> 02:45:58.000
of my senior year. Ended up
doing independent study, which ended up me

2678
02:45:58.120 --> 02:46:03.319
actually not doing any thing until about
three weeks before, maybe about a month

2679
02:46:03.440 --> 02:46:05.120
and a half before the school year
ended. I was like, oh,

2680
02:46:05.200 --> 02:46:09.360
I should really do this stuff,
and then very quickly banged out what I

2681
02:46:09.479 --> 02:46:11.600
needed to do and ended up graduating
like two weeks earlier. It's a good

2682
02:46:11.600 --> 02:46:16.040
feeling. Yeah, go into all
my classes. Jerk. It was a

2683
02:46:16.040 --> 02:46:18.280
good feeling too. It was a
good feeling to get one over on a

2684
02:46:18.360 --> 02:46:24.079
system that is solely built on making
money off of your attendance. Absolutely,

2685
02:46:24.239 --> 02:46:28.319
yes, that was That was my
impetus for no longer contributing to their fucking

2686
02:46:28.360 --> 02:46:33.840
bullshit machine. Yeah. I was
only in school for like three hours in

2687
02:46:33.879 --> 02:46:37.879
the morning my last semester, just
enough credits and then kept the hell out

2688
02:46:37.879 --> 02:46:39.680
of there. One of those two
was the journalism, which produced the school

2689
02:46:39.719 --> 02:46:45.799
newspaper. Yeah, meaning that every
like two weeks, right before the deadline,

2690
02:46:46.120 --> 02:46:48.319
we all ran into the computer lab
and wrote articles as fast as we

2691
02:46:48.319 --> 02:46:52.159
could. It's just like real journalists. And that's exactly I mean, it's

2692
02:46:52.239 --> 02:46:54.600
probably the most realistic prep you could
have done. We actually somebody brought there

2693
02:46:54.639 --> 02:47:01.360
then nude Nintendo sixty four into that
class. We played Mario Kart for quite

2694
02:47:01.360 --> 02:47:07.120
a bit again, journalism preparing me
for my future livelihood. I suppose because

2695
02:47:07.159 --> 02:47:11.840
I was such a cool, rebellious
kid in high school. Whenever I was

2696
02:47:11.879 --> 02:47:13.760
skipping class and I got one over
or whatever, I'd get in my car

2697
02:47:15.200 --> 02:47:18.719
and I always had it cute up
and debitof the music Volume three. I'd

2698
02:47:18.760 --> 02:47:22.520
start playing the Degeneration next theme song
as I drove to go play Sambade Amigo

2699
02:47:22.639 --> 02:47:24.920
or whatever. But like, and
ironically, it's like, yeah, this

2700
02:47:26.040 --> 02:47:28.319
is like rebellious, Like, yeah, I'm skipping school. It's like just

2701
02:47:28.440 --> 02:47:31.559
listening to wrestling theme songs to go
play video games. I just slept in.

2702
02:47:31.680 --> 02:47:41.280
It was way more fucking awesome.
Well excellent, all right. I

2703
02:47:41.600 --> 02:47:45.200
pulled so many emails and I don't
know which ones I want to read.

2704
02:47:46.159 --> 02:47:48.399
Keeping going suspense right, Yeah,
everybody's super excited right now. Man,

2705
02:47:48.440 --> 02:47:52.360
I don't even know what the next
email is gonna be quality listening material.

2706
02:47:52.600 --> 02:47:58.479
Yeah, uh, poor Xbox one
sales business on other sorry this is from

2707
02:47:58.520 --> 02:48:03.520
Christopher and Toronto business insiders often discuss
how the WEIU versus the we confusion contributed

2708
02:48:03.559 --> 02:48:07.520
a great deal to Nintendo's fallow from
Grace, not to mention the DS three

2709
02:48:07.600 --> 02:48:11.879
DS, two DS and now new
three DS fiasco. How much of the

2710
02:48:11.959 --> 02:48:13.879
poor sales of Xbox One do you
think can be attributed to the god awful

2711
02:48:15.000 --> 02:48:18.159
choice of the name Xbox One?
Like, I don't think it's a little

2712
02:48:18.200 --> 02:48:22.600
bit bad. It's nowhere near as
bad as we It didn't help, Yeah,

2713
02:48:22.000 --> 02:48:26.319
certainly it probably didn't help. But
Microsoft went out there and bought dedicated

2714
02:48:26.360 --> 02:48:28.760
shelf space for a lot of their
stuff, and you know, got it

2715
02:48:28.840 --> 02:48:31.479
in front of people as the end
of the three sixty naturally fell to the

2716
02:48:31.520 --> 02:48:37.479
background in a way that the Wei
was so popular still that it didn't as

2717
02:48:37.520 --> 02:48:43.639
readily fade from shelves. Sure,
so, yeah, I think that's not

2718
02:48:43.760 --> 02:48:46.159
really the same situation, right,
I Mean, it's not an amazing name,

2719
02:48:46.239 --> 02:48:48.440
but it's kind of the same as
the three sixty. It's basically just

2720
02:48:48.520 --> 02:48:52.719
Microsoft counterprogram I think for their original
vision for that platform. Yeah, it

2721
02:48:52.879 --> 02:48:54.920
is the perfect names. When I
was there as they were rolling out the

2722
02:48:56.040 --> 02:48:58.120
name, it was like it made
sense. It's like, oh, yeah,

2723
02:48:58.639 --> 02:49:01.719
if they want to be the one
machine sheen in your living room for

2724
02:49:01.879 --> 02:49:05.520
all your TV and also other shit
like of course, of course, but

2725
02:49:07.079 --> 02:49:09.440
I'm a little biased against it as
someone who has to say the name Xbox

2726
02:49:09.520 --> 02:49:15.600
one dozens of times per week and
occasionally differentiated from the actual first Xbox.

2727
02:49:15.760 --> 02:49:18.680
Yeah, yeah, stuff like we'll
still run into those situations, but we're

2728
02:49:18.680 --> 02:49:20.280
gonna get to a point here pretty
soon where you can just say that Xbox,

2729
02:49:20.479 --> 02:49:24.079
right. But you know, it's
just like with the three sixty,

2730
02:49:24.079 --> 02:49:28.040
they were also counterprogramming Sony in a
way. You know, three sixty happened

2731
02:49:28.159 --> 02:49:31.239
because there was a place with a
three on it coming out. I think

2732
02:49:31.280 --> 02:49:33.719
that was a great move. And
in this case, it's like, oh,

2733
02:49:33.719 --> 02:49:37.479
they're on their fourth one, but
this is the only one type thing,

2734
02:49:37.959 --> 02:49:39.559
you know, or or the number
one. You know, it's kind

2735
02:49:39.559 --> 02:49:43.840
of an obvious response to what the
competition is doing. Yeah, the Xbox

2736
02:49:43.920 --> 02:49:46.840
Dreamcast. Now you talked, it's
called the Xbox four. Let's just skip

2737
02:49:46.879 --> 02:49:50.159
ahead, right, Yeah, I
mean you can do that. It's not

2738
02:49:50.280 --> 02:49:52.840
illegal, Like who cares. Also, the mpds came out last week,

2739
02:49:52.879 --> 02:49:56.040
and I mean, yes, the
Xbox one is doing poorly in comparison to

2740
02:49:56.079 --> 02:50:01.520
the PS four, but they're both
still selling faster than their predecessors did.

2741
02:50:01.680 --> 02:50:05.280
Yeah, so like, yeah,
relative with the competition, it's not selling

2742
02:50:05.360 --> 02:50:07.879
nearly as much. But like I
doubt they see it as an abject failure.

2743
02:50:07.959 --> 02:50:11.719
You know, they're out there making
it happen. Yeah everyone is,

2744
02:50:11.879 --> 02:50:18.959
yeah, well well most everyone,
most everyone. Me and Captain are yeah

2745
02:50:18.159 --> 02:50:26.799
yeah, getting it done. Oh
boy, all right, last email for

2746
02:50:26.920 --> 02:50:31.799
now. Chris from Wyoming, subject
line grocery store. I saw two people

2747
02:50:31.840 --> 02:50:37.000
buying chocolate milk, chocolate nest Quick
and nothing else. Does life have meaning?

2748
02:50:37.920 --> 02:50:41.559
No, they were putting the next
chocolate nest Quick in the chocolate milk.

2749
02:50:41.600 --> 02:50:45.239
I think that's what he's getting as
the assumption. Maybe they add regular

2750
02:50:45.280 --> 02:50:46.200
milk at home. They're just like, we need to switch everything over.

2751
02:50:46.559 --> 02:50:52.879
Now need nothing but chocolate milk.
You need to turn that regular milk into

2752
02:50:52.879 --> 02:50:54.680
more chocolate milk. Would it just
be a super chocolate if you put like

2753
02:50:56.440 --> 02:50:58.159
I guess that you could look at
it that way. Sure, at some

2754
02:50:58.200 --> 02:51:03.399
point, you're just delue the nest
Quick with chocolate milk. You know,

2755
02:51:03.840 --> 02:51:09.079
m h. You're not adding chocolate
to milk. You're deluding chocolate with milk.

2756
02:51:11.520 --> 02:51:15.600
And at that point your life has
ascended to a level that I am

2757
02:51:15.879 --> 02:51:18.799
unfamiliar. I guess you're right,
But to answer your ultimate question, no,

2758
02:51:20.000 --> 02:51:24.000
I also get Strawberry life does not
have meaning. It's just a slow,

2759
02:51:24.520 --> 02:51:31.719
inexorable march towards oblivion. Yeah.
Whoa, yeah he's ready for haircuts.

2760
02:51:31.719 --> 02:51:35.360
I might not get a haircut at
this point. I think I changed

2761
02:51:35.399 --> 02:51:37.319
my mind. Good call. Also, I want what do you have to

2762
02:51:37.360 --> 02:51:41.000
live for? Man? Nothing,
I just let it keep going. Yeah.

2763
02:51:41.319 --> 02:51:43.559
Radio Lads got a pretty good episode
of nihilism. Yeah yeah, the

2764
02:51:43.639 --> 02:51:48.479
most recent one. Oh yeah,
really it involves street Detective m Yeah it's

2765
02:51:50.079 --> 02:51:54.319
nihilist. Yeah. Oh yes,
the strictly speaking, he is a pessimist.

2766
02:51:54.559 --> 02:52:01.159
Oh okay, I like Radio Lab
but I couldn't really do it find

2767
02:52:01.200 --> 02:52:05.280
the editing and the production to felt
this version is just the one guy,

2768
02:52:05.479 --> 02:52:09.040
just dad. It's not like I
just really I just want to hear the

2769
02:52:09.079 --> 02:52:11.440
discussion and the information. I don't
need to hear like the background sound of

2770
02:52:11.520 --> 02:52:15.680
the place that they're investigating for like
twenty seconds. Yeah, this is much

2771
02:52:15.719 --> 02:52:18.280
more like this American life. Okay, well that's good to hear. Also,

2772
02:52:18.360 --> 02:52:22.280
I want to reassure our pal Hambo
from Scotland that I am still receiving

2773
02:52:22.319 --> 02:52:26.440
his emails. Okay, I just
haven't caught my breath yet from the last

2774
02:52:26.479 --> 02:52:33.319
one. That I read smart,
but I've got him message received as Yeah,

2775
02:52:33.680 --> 02:52:37.079
those those will probably happen at some
point. Also, he has been

2776
02:52:37.159 --> 02:52:41.000
a foot in the comments yeah here
and there. I admire his spirit.

2777
02:52:43.200 --> 02:52:48.399
Wish party with Hambo. I don't
know, man, just make it to

2778
02:52:48.479 --> 02:52:52.559
the oblivion that much faster. Okay, fair enough, I mean all right,

2779
02:52:52.280 --> 02:52:56.639
well we'll go put those plants together
and conclude this podcast. Thank everybody

2780
02:52:56.680 --> 02:53:01.280
for listening, Thank you guys for
showing up. Yeah, anytime. Not

2781
02:53:01.399 --> 02:53:05.520
like you had a choice, I
mean kind of do Wait what are you

2782
02:53:05.600 --> 02:53:09.639
saying? No favorite what we make? You can't say that if you don't

2783
02:53:09.680 --> 02:53:13.319
have like a big I just carved
it into this desk to like slam into

2784
02:53:13.360 --> 02:53:16.600
the table. Now all right,
well, all right, well we will

2785
02:53:16.600 --> 02:53:20.479
get our knives ready. I've got
a whole desk ball. I know there's

2786
02:53:20.600 --> 02:53:24.440
yes, there's quite a selection choose
from. Well, get our knives prepared,

2787
02:53:24.159 --> 02:53:26.799
and we'll be back next week.
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