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This is Eye on the Ball with
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Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera. He's Jagan Zallas.
Got our guy Kevin in for the day

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you survived Vegas. Sorry if you
missed us, but that's on you.

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Which why should you miss us?
Well, you know, it was a

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interesting week. It was fourth We
were off four days. Right, you

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were there a while. I was
there a while. Party sooner than we

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thought. But it is what it
is when it comes to college basketball.

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There was one of fans should already
know that you never know? Well,

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yeah, you know, and I
you know, I because I was working,

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I to stay there till the end. So on Saturday, you know,

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out and about I ran into a
lot of Arizona fans were really pissed

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off. So let me ask you. Let's go there. So how many

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people were in the stadium for the
championship game? They announced seventeen or for

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the championship game. I you know, I never looked up that I will

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How did it look? It felt
like it maybe eleven eleven, so a

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lot less than they announced seventeen to
five for its eighteen twenty twenty happy Yeah,

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there was seventeen to five on on
Friday. It was a salot.

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Thursday was a salot. But on
Thursday the upper deck on the ends they

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had covered with curtains, so they
had really reduced the capacity. Friday there

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were seats, but they announced seventeen
five and it looked like seven Friday.

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It was fantastic. The fans were
behind them, right, YadA YadA,

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So okay, so it's half full
And then I was wondering. In fact,

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they put it in my story after
they lost, who was going to

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stay and who was going to leave
because their team had lost, so a

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lot of people came back for the
championship game. Yeah, well you didn't

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see a lot of Arizona. You
didn't see a lot of red. Now,

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I will say that I was joking
with a friend of mine who was

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there, you know who, an
Arizona fan who went to the game with

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her husband and they were there.
She had an Arizona sweatshirt on. But

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it was a great sweatshirt with Arizona
logo. It wasn't Red. I was

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making fun of her. I said, Okay, she's a little understated with

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the with the Arizona with the Arizona
logo. But you know, there were

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some you know, like my family, who all had tickets. None of

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them went, didn't go, None
of them went on and couldn't get rid

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of them. Probably didn't even try, Yeah, because it's who's gonna find

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them? And you already had tickets, right for Colorado and Oregon. But

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good for good for Colorado and Oregon. They played out of their minds and

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now they're in the n Cuba Tournament. Oregon partly had to win it to

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get in, and they did,
but Arizona just didn't look good for the

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final twenty minutes. In fact,
they looked pretty bad. And now there's

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always hope because there was another season. Yeah, yeah, so you know

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it was it was well, I'm
gotting back to the point I was gonna

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make about you know, Saturday.
You know, I just ran into a

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lot of Arizon fans. We're really
upset, and I'm kind of like,

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are you upset just because they lost, or are you upset because you think

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because of this loss, they're gonna
suck in the NCAA tournament. And that

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was most of the answers, like, oh, they're they're terrible, they're

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going out. You know, they're
not gonna make it past the first weekend.

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And I'm like, well, that
doesn't mean that I'm gonna give you

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this because it's the Jagan's always approach, given that you already told me they

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recently bias, right, and I'm
not giving this grief grief about it?

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Uh, grief about it. I
missed that. Yeah, I started giving

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it too because it's recently. Buys, they played really well on Thursday,

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right, and you're thinking, Wow, the team is back, Right,

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the team is back. This is
gonna be a breeze. They'll get the

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PAC twelve title and go and do
whatever. Right a day later, right,

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they're yeah, I mean it's like, what's wrong with you? Exactly

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right? And here's the thing.
We saw the way in twenty eighteen,

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the way they ran through the tournament. They looked unbeatable and they got smoked

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in the first round by a bad
team. Right, So none of it

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means anything. You should be used
to if you're an Neverson fan, you

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should be used to it. Enjoy
the great moments, yeah, and don't

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be surprised if you had a bad
moment of two. But none of it

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means anything, Steven. If they
if they'd have won the tournament, it

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doesn't mean anything exactly. The fact
that they lost the tournament doesn't mean anything

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now exactly. You know, I, like everybody else, was pretty unhappy

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with it, with the way,
you know, with the way it ended

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for them. But I'm gonna say
I was angry more because I'll just have

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a little money on them, a
little bit, not a lot. Well,

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you know just what I did.
You had no chance to cover if

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that's what you did. Yeah,
because they were not gonna cover up while

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they were gonna and then they did
it ten minutes left. That's the thing,

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you know, there's they just gotta
survive the game, and they couldn't

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do that. It just goes to
show you how much they depend on Love

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and a player or two. Also, Kylin and and Love were absolutely horrible.

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You know, the thing about it
is not that this gives you hope,

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because I'm not sure he'd do it. But if he takes those two

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out and puts in Bradley and and
and the kid, the kid kJ Lewis

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kJ Lewis that they're going to be
fine because they made that comeback with those

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two kids. Yeah, but they
didn't play that well either. No,

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but but they made the comeback.
They were down double digits, they closed

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it to within three or four or
whatever it was, and then they just

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didn't win. But this team,
this team needs Guess what if this this,

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if this radio show was being held
in in North Carolina, Houston and

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whatever the other Purdue, they'd be
saying the same thing, what what the

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what the hell? I mean,
look at his soon they lost by thirty?

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What the hell was that? I
mean, if you're Houston, are

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you pulling out your hair more than
Arizona fan is right now? Well,

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I thought they were good enough.
I still think they're good enough to win

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the title. They have no every
team's flawed, even Connecticut to a third

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degree. But every team's flawed.
And if you get to their flaws and

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you pick at it and pick at
it, they're gonna go down. Houston

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can't score. They're fantastic on the
defensive, right, they pester and they

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do all these things, so they
make you feel uncomfortable, but they're not

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a good scoring team. Conversely,
Arizona, even though Tommy wants to convinces

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they're a good defensive team, they
can score. I can defend all that

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great, even though the numbers are
there, right, you know, because

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that's what happens. No, I
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a matter of I mean, who
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Nobody? Do you even trust Yukon
because to me, I'm thinking, you

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know, we see all this.
You know, to me, Yukon is

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nineteen ninety eight. Arizona right right, right right, defending champ, the

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best team in the country all year
long, you know, and then something

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happened. Yeah, right, Oh, you know, nothing is guaranteed.

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I think they are the favorite to
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You know what the price is on
that? There was one of if

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you want to get there, thirteen
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think I saw, didn't I see
three fifty or something like that. I

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mean it's pretty low. Wow,
Well, it's very low. Yeah,

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And that's not I don't think that's
a good price for them. I'm three

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fifty. But you know, Arizona's
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Probably not, but if they make
a good run, they're going to

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make everybody happy. Look, I'm
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attendants that on Saturday, the championship
game in the PAC twelve was twelve nine

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twelve, so kind of realistic to
what you thought, right, I thought

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I thought eleven to twelve. So
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panned the crowd accidentally or whatever.
You can see spots where there were no

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the upper deck that was three quarters
full. On on those seats that they

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opened up for Friday, where there
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only sold those for a day.
There was nobody up there, so I

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went to I went to deliver a
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to some fans. They were everywhere, They were everywhere. It was.

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It was a showing like they haven't
had before. You know, this was

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it. This was the one that
they had to get to. And they

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were there and it was loud and
it was exciting until the very end,

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and then they it was quiet because
they because they got beat. And that's

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you know what I posted on on
our on our social media that the fans

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showed up, but the team should
not. So let's go there too.

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Because everyone's thankful or grateful that the
Arizona team was going to be out west.

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We've seen this story before. We've
seen it many times before. Uh,

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it doesn't mean anything to me.
It doesn't matter they go to l

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A. If they happen to get
to la they'll have a lot of fans

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there. What does it mean not
a whole lot, right, It just

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means that they have a lot of
fans because they haven't actually been very good

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on the West. They haven't played
well on the West. In fact,

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they've been disappointing in the West exactly
exactly. And and you know it's just

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I mean, you know everybody,
you know, everybody gets to bring their

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fans. And what people don't realize
is that the that the the first round

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of the n CUAA tournament is a
very hard ticket to get because you know,

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every there's eight schools at each side, they all get X allot on

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them. That that that's most of
the tickets. So there's very few public

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tickets on sale. Now will Arizona
fans grab them? They're gonna grab some

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of them. But there you know, everybody gets a shot at those tickets,

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right, No, there'll be there'll
be a lot of fans from Arizona.

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There's no question. It's not too
far. Uh. Even though it's

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far, it's not too far.
And then they're expected to get past these

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next two rounds, whether they do
or they don't. I think if they

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lose the next two rounds, it's
a huge disappointment. Oh of course,

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it's huge. Dec don't get out
of the first weekend, it's it's a

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mega disappointe. And then there,
of course some people people were pushing on

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Facebook. Then questions have to be
asked of Tommy Lloyd. I'll stop what

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questions? Yeah? What questions?
What questions? You know? I got

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a response from one of our buddies. I have your questions for you.

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Okay, really I'll be quiet.
But if they get to the lead eight

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in the final four, uh,
it'll be a worth a season, worthy

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of of who they are. No. Yeah, Jay, at this point,

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because of the loss, they think
they are going to be happy if

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they get out of the first week. It's been twenty three years. This

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doesn't happen by lucky or whatever it
is. You have to be good at

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this, they've been twenty it's been
twenty three years. Hold are twenty three?

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Yeah you were born probably, Oh
so you were You were born the

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same month they last went there.
Yep. Does that feel like a long

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time? I mean it's my entire
life exactly. Most of the people at

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Ubay, yeah, I mean they've
experienced the final, almost all of them.

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Yeah, they've never experienced a final
for us as students or lovers of

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the Wildcats. It's kind of crazy
think about, isn't it to me?

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It is people, Well, it's
a birthright. None necessarily blue blood,

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yeah, blue blood. So oh
yeah, let's talk about our show.

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I think it's gonna be a great
show, a great show. We got

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Sean Elliott, who the best ever
man, best ever at Arizona. He's

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going to join us today. We
asked him a while back and we wanted

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to tol him. We wanted to
talk to him about one this being the

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last PAC twelve tournament and with you
know, the meaning of that to him

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is somebody who you know who played
in the tournament, who had an impact,

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had an impact on the PAC twelve
at one time, was the was

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the career scoring leader until Don McClain
passed him. Just all this the death

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of the PAC twelve. What that
means to an athlete like him who is

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so high profile for the PAC twelve. And then we'll talk about the NCAA

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tournament. Right, he had the
yead. He was in the first final

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four team that had Final four run
next year, very disappointing, and that

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they didn't get out of the or
they lost in the sweet sixteen. You

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know, they were ranked number one
in the country. You know, those

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two kind of contrasting ends, and
that was the end of his career at

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Arizona and just what the n double
A tournament means to him now. So

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we're gonna have him and then we're
gonna get We brought in Jody Aaylor is

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gonna be a three fifteen guests,
just a ton of Jody's He's always all

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over social media. But you know, stuff going on with the Cardinals,

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the NUBA tournament. You know,
how much does the n Cuba Tournament mean

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to fans up there since they don't
ever have a team that goes no,

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no, no, And it's a
big city. No, it's not nosy,

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right, but the final four is
up there, So just all of

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that just you know, just from
things from going on right now from a

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Phoenix perspective that Jody always is is
great to put out. And then tomorrow

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tomorrow, right, we've got Charles
McClelland, the chair of the NCAA tournament

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committee, So we'll ask him our
questions about the bracket and the tournament.

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You'll join us. A lot of
heat they are and I'm not sure what

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they take a lot of heat every
year, So we'll we'll talk about that.

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And the heat is because Yukon's bracket. If you're the best team in

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the in the tournament, why are
you getting so much heat from other schools

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in that area? Right, Well, it's just the way it goes.

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It's because they and he'll he'll be
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because while on the one hand,
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give the easiest road, but you
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and there's just a bunch of good
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Having spent some time on that,
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that's why Arizona's in the west.
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okay, if North Carolina is the
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and Arizona is the second number two
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North Carolina get Why it doesn't North
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two the other number two seed,
and like well, because they wanted to

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put Arizona in the west and north
the West was the only place where North

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Carolina would go because they were the
fourth number one. Things like that.

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People don't know when't how it is. But my leage it plays a big

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part now and obviously strength to schedule
all that. So yeah, you'll have

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thought I'm not going to be here
the rest of the week being in Salt

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Lake with the team along, rule
ahead. My road is the road through

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the final four. It's a road
here really is tight. And then and

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then also join us tomorrow b Ryan
Ratkey, who called the last PAC twelve

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tournament for Westwood one Sports, and
he's he's got the call in Spokane for

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the first and second round. So
great lineup. A couple of guests.

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Our friend from Sports Cards, Showtime
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uh guest host tomorrow and Wednesday,
and Steve's absence so I won't be doing

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this here by myself with Kevin or
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but well, you know, i'll
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kick some things around headed in.
Haven't decided about Thursday. I actually stay.

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There was something I wanted to propost
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we'll well, you're gonna be up
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it being an eleven o'clock game,
I'll be ready for Well, I was

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thinking that if it's an eleven o'clock
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just to do it by phone for
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right, two o'clock. Well,
it's gonna be tight because I'll be writing

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eleven o'clock there, so it's ten
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eleven o'clock. Here's twelve o'clock over
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But we'll figure it out. Okay, we'll talk more about that. All

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right, let's go and take our
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we have Jody Eaylor from Fox Sports
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how you doing? I'm good.
I'm honored to be the opening act for

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remembers Sean Elliott's pure greatness. You
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Great to have you all that information
up in the valley. Do you can

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you hell that there's a Final four
here in three weeks? Not really,

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But to be fair, you couldn't
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three weeks out either. You know, there's just so much going on all

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the time up here, and everyone
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and so it's it's not like I
would expect it to be this fever,

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but it's definitely publicized, Like we
know the final fours in Phoenix. People

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are aware. But I am kind
of curious to see as we get closer,

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how the sort of hype and buzz
is crest. Well, I guess,

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and this is going to be you
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me? Just the the upty two
Sonan. You know the fact that Asu

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is not in not in the tournament
all the time. So it's not a

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thing I imagine up there like it. It's certainly not like it is here

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where people live and die with the
dang tournament is. Does that have anything

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to do with how much interest there
is in the tournament up there? Do

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you think no matter where you are, people are fired up over it.

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when Michale was hosting some tournament games, and like the whole town was buzzn't

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about that day the day before about
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know, So I think I think
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ASU is not really a thing.
Gcu is is becoming a thing, and

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so there's legitimate excitement around like that
program. But they are a twelve seed

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and so it's not like it's capturing
the whole city. But I think it's

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just it's just, you know,
there's so much that goes on here.

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the Final Four, there'll be the
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and so everybody gets excited the day
of, but there is sort of

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normal sea to just having huge events
after a huge event, you know what

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I mean? Yeah, yeah,
And there's that place is so widespread now

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it takes you an hour to get
across town, just you know, just

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to get in the car and go. What's your topic of conversations today or

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this week? Cardinals and Suns And
you know, obviously I'm the U of

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A alum, so I talked you
of A and the Long Beach State matchup

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and what's at stake. But I
mean, I'm curious you guys are in

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the no pun intendent here, the
eye of the storm here when it comes

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to college basketball and U of A. But I think I probably watched less

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college basketball this year than any year
of my adult life. And I've certainly

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watched as much U of A Basketball
as I could. Outside of U of

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A, I didn't have a lot
of interest in watching random no name dudes

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and transfers on random programs, and
I just feel like it's it's a pretty

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steep decline for college basketball. Do
you guys feel that at all? Yeah,

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I don't know. I don't know. I've I've watched a number of

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things because it's been so I don't
say water down because it's not wanted down.

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There's just so many teams that look
alike and not like anybody can win,

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and if you don't have Yukon,
good luck with that. Yeah.

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I sort of compared it to like
baseball fandom when I was a kid,

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and even as an adult, like
I could name the starting lineup for every

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baseball team and Major League Baseball pretty
easily, and then when we sell platoons

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and you know, teams realize they
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it's impossible to know who's sitting clean
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So I just think there's just a
complete overload of chains and player names.

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And even this year it could be
a great final four. I'm not sure

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how much momentum that carries over to
nation. Like look at the NBA draft

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right now, it's like the top
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Most people, I don't think could
name the five best players in college basketball.

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So I do think that there's a
college basketball has obviously an issue that

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they need to figure out, but
it's not their problem. It's college athletics

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in general. Yeah, no,
I hear you, So let's uh let's

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let's move on a little bit because
there's so many things going on. You

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want to talk about the Cardinals.
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of all draft wisers, you know, all the stuff that's going on with

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that. But I first want to
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what the hell is that? That
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know, they're they're trying to get
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that feels like the idea of Cliff
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hey, how can we make our
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in the pool, and like,
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you're fired, but we'll steal your
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what they're going to do with that. I I feel like it's like a

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lot of things that sometimes happens up
here. It's done with the right intentions,

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but might ultimately create more embarrassment than
it does success. So it's sort

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of the extension of the pool and
in the outfield of Chase Field, which

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frankly, you know, surprisingly became
a pretty big hit and less of an

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oddity, and maybe this opens that
door. I just think you know,

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there's teams like Jacksonville and Arizona and
maybe one or two other teams that would

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even think about doing this. So
it's they got space, they got tickets

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that they could I guess consolidate into
some very very expensive on field suits.

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But it's it's strange, Well,
the Raiders have a disco, right or

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they got a nightclub in their end
zone, so, you know, I

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guess maybe this is for the retirement
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in in Arizona that you know here, you know, go get a recliner

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and what and watch the game.
I watched that video that they that they

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made. I watched it over and
over and over again to see what is

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this and and it just I mean, it was fascinated by it. But

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I'm like, is that really something
that they tested it out that's going to

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sell. I think the idea is
they're catering. There's a lot of money

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up here, like a lot a
lot of money, and they know that

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there's a lot of people that don't
want to go to a professional sports game

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and it with the average fan and
deal with the average fans drunkenness or the

407
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:07.599
average fans blah blah, blah.
I mean that's where you and I and

408
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.200
most people I know are most comfortable. But people with an extraordinary amount of

409
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.920
money want to want to feel extraordinary. They want something unique, and so

410
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:21.039
they're catering the bandwagon rich fans,
and that's what they're trying to sell this

411
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to. It's not the average Cardinals
fans then, you know, not in

412
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:30.000
their defense, but the marketing to
get people to go to live sporting events

413
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has to evolve because people are more
and more and increasingly likely to not go

414
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to games. So it's at least
something unique. But I'm curious how it

415
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works. I'm just curious. It's
always been simple in my book about getting

416
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people to the stadium. That's when
thing go. Yeah, and that,

417
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which has been a challenge for the
Cardinals over the last thirty five, really

418
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continue to be yeah yeah. I
mean for the foreseeable future. I think

419
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they're true headed in the right direction. So I do think success is going

420
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to come. I think next year
will be a competitive, fun, interesting

421
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season, barring injuries obviously, and
then I do think this team is set

422
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:12.799
up to potentially be very good and
in a year, two years, three

423
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years that they could sustain. So
it might work that way. So are

424
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are they said on the draft?
I mean, everybody's talking about Harrison.

425
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.079
I mean, is he the guy? Well, yeah, there's that.

426
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.720
There's the Cardinal fan that believes that
he's got to take Marvin Harrison Junior.

427
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.680
There's a lot of trauma from passing
on to Rell Suggs or a Trane Peterson

428
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and you just got to take the
star. I'm of the opinion if you

429
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can trade down and stockpile picks this
year and next year, that's ultimately what's

430
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in the best interest of the organization. It's so funny, guys, because

431
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every year but the drafts go through
this process where we're just one hundred percent

432
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:55.279
convinced that all of these pre draft
rankings and projections are one hundred percent right,

433
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and then every year we're proven that
nobody knows anything really about the draft

434
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.559
and that so many things are wrong. So I like to operate from the

435
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.640
margin of their perspective, and in
order for that, Cardinals take at number

436
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:10.200
four to work with govern Arson Junior, like he flat up has to be

437
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:12.839
great, like great, great,
like Larry Fitzgerald Hall of Fame great,

438
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:18.279
which he could be. He could
also be pretty good or just good or

439
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.559
not very good, And I think
trading down in stockpiling picks just make the

440
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most sense honestly, even though it's
not nearly a spun or or marketable.

441
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.160
Well, what do you think they'll
do? Well? I think the Minnesota

442
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:36.960
Vikings offer two firsts and a future
first, and they could effectively amass five

443
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.440
first round picks in the next two
years. I think they will do that

444
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.799
deal, and I think that's what
the NFL is expecting right now. I

445
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think that's what all the reporting has
been. I think if it's anything short

446
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of that, they're going to have
to have a real, real tough conversation.

447
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.440
Ultimately, I think money offs import
is the kind of GM who wants

448
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.480
to trade down. And I think
the Cardinals will interesting, okay interesting,

449
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:06.599
So potentially, what do you think? And it's only what march here?

450
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.000
Potentially? How good can they be
or not? So bad can they be?

451
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.440
Well, you know, Aeron Donald's
out of the division, so that's

452
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:17.160
a good thing. The forty nine
ers probably are gonna have something to hangover

453
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:21.599
after another disappointing finish to their season. The Seahawks are in total transition.

454
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.640
The NFC was bad last year,
and I think it's it's probably going to

455
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.039
be about the same level this year. So I think the Cardinals next year

456
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.039
could reasonably expect to be competing for
a wildcart spot in the December. You

457
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.839
know, a lot of that will
come down to injury luck as scheduling luck.

458
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.319
But I think next year, anywhere
between seven and nine wins feels like

459
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.440
the right amount, and I do
think they'll compete for wildcat spot. I

460
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think they'll play meeting for football.
If I had to guess right now,

461
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.319
you know, if we assume full
health for Kyler Murray, I'd probably take

462
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.400
them to go nine to eight,
And it really just comes down to the

463
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.039
last week or two. That's where
I I think they're aheaded this year.

464
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:08.720
Mister mister optimistic Jodie right nine one. Who when when teams do things the

465
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:11.079
right way, I'm happy to give
me credit. It just happens, So

466
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.160
happens in most of the states.
The teams just do the wrong things all

467
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:21.160
the time. Okay, so we're
we're several days past the Pac twelve tournament.

468
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.119
You saw a coach get fired going
in while in the middle of it,

469
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.440
or maybe going into it. We
saw we saw Dan Monson get fired

470
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.240
on Monday and then got his team
into the n C Double A Tournament.

471
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.599
What's the situation Bobby Hurley? Anything, anything buzzing over there, and you

472
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.640
can't say you're wishing that he get
fired and then get fired and then take

473
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:48.519
the issue to the final four.
Yeah, he's effectively. I think the

474
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:55.720
expectation is this is really a situation
where neither party has any better options,

475
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.640
but if they did, they'd probably
pursue it. I don't think Bobby Hurley's

476
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:02.319
in demand, although there's a slew
of job openings and the crickle down effect

477
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:06.839
has just begun, so I don't
think he'd be up for any of those

478
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.200
big ticket jobs, but some of
the openings that will be created, he

479
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:14.799
might be. He's got the contract
that he needs to get finalized and actually

480
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.720
signed a year after agreeing to it, and so I think this story is

481
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.880
a little bit to be continued because
I don't know that he is using a

482
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.680
position to commit any more resources to
Bobby Hurley, and Hecy's got a pretty

483
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.839
good recruiting class coming in next year. But I just think both sides right

484
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.480
now are at the spot of like
it's kind of empathy, right, Like

485
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.920
I like living here and they don't
want to have to worry about basketball,

486
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:45.279
so they're just probably keep going in
the same direction and hope for different results

487
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:47.279
next year. Well, it's funny
you use the word apathy, and you've

488
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:52.839
been around a long time here and
there. You can count what maybe five

489
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.200
coaches in your hand since you were
a kid, and none of them have

490
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:59.960
worked. Do you think anyone would
work? And we both know that coach

491
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.440
matters, who could they get?
They want to go there for the apathy

492
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.920
that they have. I think what
works now? And I think someone could

493
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:14.160
work at ASU because there's so much
transition every single year. I think this

494
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.240
is like the Kenny Dillingham model,
the Jetfish model. If somebody just comes

495
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:21.599
in and just works their butt off
and they don't care about what the name,

496
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.519
brand recognition is. They just do
everything they can to recruit recruit.

497
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:30.480
Actually puts programs like ASU in basketball
and U of Vane football in a much

498
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:37.359
better competitive situation than the traditional structure, which was if you don't have historic

499
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.160
success or you don't have a history
of prescedure, probably never going to win.

500
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:45.160
So if I were ASU, I'd
be looking to follow the Kenny Dillingham

501
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:50.839
model. Even though he's not produced
much on the field yet. But it's

502
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:55.720
that kind of coach, new,
young fresh connected to high schools in a

503
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.119
deep way that I think could work
because listen, the Big twelve is going

504
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.440
to be a big adjustment. But
like if we just if we bottom line

505
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.119
and say, hey, this,
can ASU basketball ever be like U of

506
00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:12.440
A or U c l A.
No, could ASU basketball be equivalent to

507
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:19.159
b YU or Houston or Kansas State? Then the answer should be absolutely all

508
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.079
right, man, who do you
have in the NCAA Tournament. I'm still

509
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:28.840
I'm still sitting on I have.
I'm just folk like long beat State terrifies

510
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:34.920
me. Any any any movie about
like college conflict is the world against the

511
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.519
administration. Now you've got this team
that's just like United against a log Peay

512
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:44.119
State administration. I know there are
almost three touchdown underdogs, but I do

513
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:49.239
worry a little bit about that that
magic. Although Arizona should win comfortably and

514
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:53.199
in to me, a Baylor Sweet
sixteen matchup would be fascinating, right,

515
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:57.480
Baylor and the Sweet sixteen would be
kind of wild? Yeah, I agree

516
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.960
with one last question before we go, An thing short of a X would

517
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:07.119
be a disappointment. Final four,
Oh I think so you know they found

518
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.599
him, they found yeah, showed
up. How would you answer that?

519
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.360
Because there has to be the standard
has to be the standard, right How

520
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.800
old are you? Thirty something,
forty two, forty two? So you

521
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.880
were nineteen years old and here at
school when the last was the Final four?

522
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.239
Oh yeah. I ride on Fourth
Avenue after the Duke National Championship game,

523
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:36.440
and then I was in the office
of Ryan Radkey at another radio station

524
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:40.679
for the Illinois loss. That was
partially my fault for jinxing the game and

525
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:47.480
changing up the routine. But I'm
just tired of any other outcome other than

526
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.519
a Final four. Obviously, like
a tough game, buzzer beat or whatever.

527
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:54.159
But final four to me, with
this team, with this experience,

528
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.679
it's so rare. I know they've
got some vulnerability shooting and with boswell,

529
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.639
but I really think you've got to
you got to expect a Final four for

530
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:06.280
a team that showed what they've showed
how good they can be at their best

531
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.039
this year as the Final four caliber
team. Okay, you're a man,

532
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:14.400
hard to drive, hard man.
Okay, you guys, sweet sixteen,

533
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.400
you're just in there. We're happy
with a win overloading. You're too close

534
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.559
to the situation and to see the
boards. And to me, they're seeded

535
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.199
to get to the to the Elite
eight, you know as the number two

536
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.199
seeds. So you know, if
they lose to North Carolina in the in

537
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:31.079
the in the Elite eight, you
can't be pissed off at that. But

538
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.920
if they don't get to the Elite
eight, I think you go, Okay,

539
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.679
that was a disappointment. And by
the way, none of this,

540
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.039
I think, if it happens,
reflects poorly on Tommy Lloyd. I'm not

541
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.840
at that point. Jobs at stake. Obviously, loude Olsen had his questions

542
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:51.039
to answer and the questions just get
louder. But yeah, I agree Elite

543
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.400
eight and is kind of the baseline. But I'm just all ready for this

544
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:58.239
team to take a step into the
back into the big leagues. You and

545
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.400
everybody else there were a whole bunch
of them in Vegas, and I can

546
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:05.920
tell you that, Jody, thank
you very much. Hey, guys,

547
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:07.920
love chat and appreciate your time.
You will thank you saying here, Jody

548
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:12.239
Taylor nine ten Phoenix. If you're
up there listening, Yeah, good stuff.

549
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:15.519
He's always good twoson and Guy so
twoson, Guy up there, you

550
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:16.559
know, kicking it in Phoenix,
and he does a great job. So

551
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.360
all right, let's take a break
word to come back. We'll take your

552
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.519
calls five to two zero four one, six, seventy four to forty.

553
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.920
You've also got a lot of a
lot of clips from Tommy's press conference after

554
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.679
the bracket came out yesterday, so
we'll start playing some of that, but

555
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.679
we will take your calls five to
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Hey, welcome back to the ball
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I'm Steve, He's Jake. You
got a call? Yeah, gonna take

595
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this call. Hi, You're on
the air and I on the ball.

596
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Good afternoon you guys. This is
a Gabe. How are you guys doing?

597
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.199
We're doing well. Gave did you
survive the weekend in no victory?

598
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:40.039
I was irritated from my hap on
on Friday. So it's just Arizona didn't

599
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:50.559
really give it there to be motivated
to win it. So yeah, hopefully

600
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:58.079
hopefully they can be motivated to win
this games in March. But if not,

601
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:04.440
then I seen there is criticism to
be have about whether Tommy Lloyd can

602
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:10.719
motivate uh the players too to go
to go to go on a run.

603
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.480
Do you think you can just say
I'm hoping. I hope I am wrong,

604
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:22.639
but let's just see what happened.
Do you think it begins and ends

605
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:28.639
with motivation? Yeah, if you
if you're not, if you're if you

606
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.119
don't really give a sugar, honey, I see about what's going on,

607
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:37.440
then you're not motivated to play play
your ass off. Okay, what if

608
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:43.199
I told you though, Gabe,
that lude Olson lost in the first round

609
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:49.800
in his first three n cua A
tournaments at Arizona. We I mean,

610
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.840
what did he just fail down?
Hold on? You know, I mean

611
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:55.800
you know you're saying, well,
if the in the first round again born

612
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.880
in ninety five, Okay, that's
what I'm saying. But I reckon.

613
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:06.079
Ye I know that Arizona one in
ninety seven, but I was. But

614
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:09.199
my point being that Luke got here
and didn't didn't win an nc double A

615
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.880
tournament game until his fourth year.
Should they have thought about getting rid of

616
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:22.960
him after the third year? You're
awful? Okay, Yeah, you goteles.

617
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:29.119
That's all I'm saying. Gabe.
You know, look, I I

618
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.639
hear you. Fans were frustrated.
I saw a bunch of them in Vegas.

619
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.800
They were all upset. But in
the end, you know, if

620
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:39.280
they won or lost this tournament wasn't
gonna matter. It wasn't gonna have,

621
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:43.000
you know, decide what they do
in the n C double by the way

622
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.840
game. So I weve mentioned this
before you came on. So if you

623
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.920
do have questions about whether he's the
guy, what do you ask him with

624
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:55.159
those questions? Well, I mean
in regards to the media people, I

625
00:42:55.159 --> 00:43:02.679
mean, like Bruce pa Pasco.
Good you media guys, ask how can

626
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:09.800
you motivate the guys to get up
for the games? And the other thing

627
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:15.880
and the other thing is well,
this is my question to YouTube, was

628
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:22.800
was was Kylin Boswell gamboling or playing
blackshack? Well? Apparently he was and

629
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:27.199
yeah, and Tommy addressed that,
and we're gonna play those those clips here

630
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.360
in second. So I'll tell you
what. Keep listening to the show.

631
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.119
We've got a bunch of stuff from
Tommy that I think will get to some

632
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:36.480
of the questions that you have about
this team going into the tournament. Sound

633
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:40.400
good? Okay, all right,
thanks for calling. They gotta give some

634
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:45.440
sugar. Did he say sugar honey? Yeah, sugar honey. It was

635
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.559
coming and I was scared. All
right, Okay, Tommy Lloyd did have

636
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.079
Oh we got another call. Let's
take this call. Hi are on the

637
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:57.760
air and I on the ball.
Hey, this is Frank and I have

638
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.559
a very fearless forecast for you on
the cats All right, let's hear it

639
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:07.400
all right here it is the cats
Men are going to lose in the first

640
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:13.400
two games, or they'll go to
the final four one or the other.

641
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.679
Nothing between either one. They could
win, they could lose the first game.

642
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.480
I think I'll win the first game, but they could lose a second

643
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:24.440
game. And if they go there, if they win those two, I

644
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:30.079
think they'll be focused and make it
to the final four. Wow, Okay,

645
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.199
I don't. I don't. I
like your little theory there. That's

646
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:36.199
a legit. That's a legit theory. Frank, Okay, we'll take that.

647
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.480
We'll put that in Heyrank. Yeah, well we got you, we

648
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.280
got you, no, thank you. Well, well, okay, we'll

649
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.519
keep that one in mind. So
well, you know, I want to

650
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:50.400
ask you something, you know,
and I don't want to take I don't

651
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.519
want to take Cassu with Steve again, buddy age, But you know,

652
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:02.199
you say keep, you know,
keep you don't be surprised. They'll be

653
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:07.440
surprised. You're going through this before. And they'll be disappointed. Well every

654
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:12.519
time, and I've been through these
a long time. I'm disappointed every time.

655
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.480
And sometimes they would they lose,
I wonder or too. It's very

656
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:21.679
diheartening, But I don't know.
I had a very visceral feeling, uh

657
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:25.880
in this last game, like we
were let down, like we expected more

658
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.920
from this team. So that's just
an emotional thing, you know. Uh,

659
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:34.960
you know, how did you feel? Uh? Jay, you were

660
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.400
there? Yep, he was there
too, Yeah, No, I was.

661
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.360
I was angry. But then when
I started thinking, what did the

662
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.039
loss really mean? Frank, I
have a soul for you. Take two.

663
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:49.280
Yeah, I was there. Of
course you don't read me, Frank,

664
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.880
I'm disappointed in you. Take two. I don't care. Pills and

665
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:57.360
call me in the morning. You'll
be fine. Okay, Well I'm about

666
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:02.159
to take kilas better. That's even
better. Yeah, Frank, uh no,

667
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:07.000
it to me that the game ended
up really doesn't mean a whole lot.

668
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:08.840
And you'll hear again. We're gonna
play some clips from Tommy Lloyd and

669
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:13.880
you'll hear exactly how how they took
it. So keep listening to the show

670
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.199
and we'll get to that. So
thank you for calling. All right,

671
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:20.880
Thank you guys. All right,
So we do have a bunch of clips

672
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.360
from Tommy from his He talked to
me after the bracket was announced yesterday and

673
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.320
sounded a particularly chiper. I don't
know if you had had a couple of

674
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.360
union where they did the thing or
what, but he he but he was

675
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:32.599
the same he's been this, He's
always been that way. He doesn't.

676
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.400
I know, as a coach,
you gotta feel like crap, But for

677
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:42.320
some reason he doesn't. Either he
doesn't show it, or Arizona fans or

678
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.920
just lose their mind. Friday night, he doesn't. Friday night, he

679
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.840
didn't know. I sat present,
which is great, which is great for

680
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:52.239
people like us who asked the questions, and he did Thursday night. He

681
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.960
got a little testy when the question
is defense. Oh, you got to

682
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.320
remember that, it's where the top
three blah blah blah, and we're kind

683
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.119
of like surprised. Well, the
question never came him up. He brought

684
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.039
it out himself. Yeah, all
right, here's well, here's his his

685
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:09.079
first some of his first remarks about
about how, you know, how he

686
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.320
feels going into this, uh,
going into the tournament starting on Thursday.

687
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:15.480
Yeah, I feel good. I
feel good. You know. You know,

688
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.880
hey, at the end of the
year, you're gonna play hard games

689
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:21.559
and and you know you're gonna win
them, you're gonna lose something. We've

690
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:23.679
been fortunate to win some of those
games, and you know, then you

691
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.719
get into tournament and you lose one. So you know, we're playing the

692
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.960
handword dealt. I think we're well
rested. I know we're definitely healthier than

693
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:34.519
we were last year. So you
know, I think we're ready to be

694
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:36.440
in attack mode. I mean,
we're ready to have a good week of

695
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.239
preparation and and go out and play
a good long beach date team and let

696
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:44.239
it happen. So so, and
that's just who he is. That's how

697
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:50.639
he answers the questions. So what's
the best what's the best way Arizona's gonna

698
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.880
get through these games? How should
they play? They just have to play

699
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.559
better, Steven He said that on
Thursday night. Remember he asked him,

700
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.280
you know, what was the difference
between the way you played you s c

701
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.239
last Headay? He said, we
didn't do anything different. We just did

702
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:06.199
it better. And that's all they
have to do. The guys have to

703
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.159
play better. Kylein Boswell and and
Caleb Love can't both have a bad game

704
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:13.800
in the same in the same game
like they had on Friday night. There's

705
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:15.719
a thing though, that there's an
opponent they have to play right, who

706
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:22.039
will play out of their minds right? Oregon did that right second half with

707
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:28.360
the big guy two guards. The
two guards were fantastic. The freshman guard

708
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.119
was fantastic. So they have they
have something at stake two, right,

709
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:37.480
and Fally Dante of Oregon was what
fantastic was what DeAndre Ayton was in his

710
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.800
tournament. He was just there wasn't
anything anybody could do with that guy.

711
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.280
Even Colorado couldn't do anything with that
guy. And it was just that's what

712
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.039
it was. But he did is
what reminded me of what DeAndre Ayton did

713
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:51.800
in the in the tournament that that
they just walked through mentioned. You know

714
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.519
Love and Boswell, they both had
a terrible game. I had a fan

715
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:59.360
behind me screaming at Caleb Love.
I had actually turned around town. You

716
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:05.639
can't yell at him like that.
The bench, right, he was right

717
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.079
behind the bench. He's leaning over
the bench, yelling the cababi he's coming

718
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.480
out, you suck, you suck, you suck. And I turned said,

719
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.760
you do realize that Arizona is this
good because of that guy? And

720
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.960
I got him calmed down. So
he was behind you was right behind him.

721
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:22.440
He was yelling, well, he's
leaning over the rail. He's yelling

722
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.840
in my ear, and I couldn't
take it anymore. I'm like, and

723
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:29.880
he's yelling at Tommy too, And
I said, those two guys are why

724
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:32.760
Arizona is going to be a number
two seed in the tournament and quit being

725
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:37.199
that fan putting money on this team. Well, and now the other thing,

726
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.440
I found out who he is and
I was told local yeah, and

727
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:42.960
I was told he probably had a
lot of money on Arizona. And there

728
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.519
was that, and you know,
and when you think about the fans who

729
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:51.159
were pissed, probably pissed more about
that than about the fact that theah and

730
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.440
got sold on. Tell this guy
said, you're you're acting like an idiot.

731
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:59.039
Stop, he calmed down. You
have to tell me who they is.

732
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.519
It's it's actually a very funny story. But here's what time he had

733
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:07.840
to say about what Kyle and Boswell
and and Caleb Love have to have to

734
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:13.000
do. You know, hey,
we're it's tournament time. So we trust

735
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.360
them, We believe in them.
There's no pressure on them. They don't

736
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.320
need to do anything, you know, other than what they've done consistently for

737
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:21.280
the most part all season. So
you know that that's how games go,

738
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.880
that's how seasons go. You lose
games, and usually when you lose games,

739
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:27.360
you know, some guys don't play
well, so you know, we

740
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.760
just got to get them back on
track. But it's nothing that I'm really

741
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.360
stressed out or losing sleep about.
No, I don't think he does that.

742
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.639
No, these two guys, Look, there's a lot of requirements to

743
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.239
be very good in the tournament.
One is getting lucky, one is being

744
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:46.440
healthy. And guess what guard play? Right? Your guard play Arizona one.

745
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:51.280
Because they had two pretty good guards. Maybe Simon Terry is a reserved

746
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.320
Dickerson who had They were pretty deep
at that position. Now that they have

747
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:59.880
to play to their level of expectations. And look, while they've had bad

748
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.039
and a couple sometimes they've had both
bad games at the same time, they've

749
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:08.639
played great more or at least very
good more often than not all season long.

750
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:12.840
And the one that's been the most
inconsistent has been buying Colin Boswell.

751
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.039
So let's get to the issue.
We only got about a minute, but

752
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.320
we'll play this clip real quick quick. Colin Boswell, there's a photo of

753
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.599
him went out on social media.
Play he's playing blackjack in Vegas. He's

754
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:28.159
uh, he's he's underage, so
somehow he got on the blackjack table.

755
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:31.199
I have no problem with the fact
that he was playing blackjack, unless he

756
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:35.440
was playing blackjack at two o'clock in
the morning. But tom Tommy was asked,

757
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:37.199
what are you doing about this?
Do you know about it? What

758
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:40.039
are you doing? And here's what
you had to say about the Boswell situation.

759
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:45.639
We're aware of it and and we've
handled it internally. And that's all

760
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:46.360
I got to say about that.
You know, we got have a strong

761
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:50.199
culture and you know, but but
again I say, we're not perfect,

762
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:52.920
but you know, we love Kylon
and you know I have no worries moving

763
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.679
forward. See that's the whole that's
disappointing to me, in the sense that

764
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:00.840
if you're you're you're in a team
with me, Kevin and our interns were

765
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:05.440
a team, right, right,
and one of us screws up somehow,

766
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.199
Yeah, you'd be disappointed. Sure
as a teammate, sure wouldn't you be

767
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:14.639
disappointed? And possible knowing that he's
doing this. It all depends on if

768
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:17.800
what he did. Let's say they've
got free time, okay, an hour,

769
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:21.920
two hours to go do whatever you
want, walk the strip, right

770
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:24.239
whatever, If he did that in
that time, I got no problem with

771
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:28.480
it. Okay, Yeah, but
okay, you mentioned this earlier. He's

772
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.119
eighteen, nineteen years old. Now
there's an issue, I know, But

773
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.920
I know that I was trying to
get on blackjack tables when I was eighteen

774
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.840
years old and up in Vegas.
I wasn't Kyle Boss right. And it's

775
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.719
a bad luck. Yes, I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna be curious.

776
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:44.960
That's a bad luck. You and
I I have been journalists to that degree.

777
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.599
I'm interested. We gotta get heartbreak. You got ten seconds what the

778
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:53.000
internally what they said right played because
he played right right. Well, I

779
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:54.719
don't know if we'll ever find that
out. Ye Hey, we gotta go,

780
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.840
we gotta take a break. We'll
be back with breaking news.