WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:06.400 Steve Rivera and Jagen Salez. They have their eye on the ball on Tucson 2 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:13.599 Sports Stage yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live. I mean iHeart Radio Lambday. 3 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.359 Welcome back to I the Ball Hero, Fox Sports fourteen fifty from Steve 4 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:22.640 Rivera, He's Jagansaus. Now we have Henry with breaking news for the first 5 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:27.160 story. Dan Hurley and Yukon have agreed to a six year, fifty million 6 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:32.840 dollars contract extension that will go through twenty thirty six years and fifty million. 7 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:36.359 Can you do that math? And the Lakers offered him I think sixty or 8 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:41.520 seventy millions. He's better he's better off doing exacutive Yeah, you know, 9 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:45.039 I mean, he's he's the you know, he's the he's the master of 10 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:48.600 the universe over there. Yeah. You know. All you can do is, 11 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.759 look, you get hired in the NBAT. Sometime at some point you're 12 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.320 gonna get fired. And is that job the best job you want to have? 13 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.000 The Laker job. That drama, that drama. Now you have to 14 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.840 coach kid. Now you're stuck with Yeah, you're stuck with Brownie James, 15 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:06.760 right. Yeah. No, it's like dating a hot girl. And realizing 16 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:10.879 something. She's not very fun. She has words. Shit, you know 17 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:18.079 you can Okay, that's your problem. But you I know what you're saying. 18 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:21.359 I know what you're saying. No, I I yeah, I mean 19 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:23.200 why yeah, I mean you know, why would you not just want to 20 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:26.480 stay where you are? Yeah? I'm making Come on, what's what's eight 21 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:33.000 eight million, nine million dollars a year to eleven million dollars a year? 22 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:38.120 It's sixty for five six years for fifty million. Yeah, all right, 23 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:44.400 that's that's that's crazy numbers. Eight eight point something eight point two eight point 24 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:49.439 three eight million a year to coach college basketball. But nobody's got any money, 25 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.719 Steve, nobody's got any money. And then you got to pay the 26 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:55.000 kids, right, nobody's got any money. Nobody's got any money. You 27 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.200 gotta pay the coach, and now you have to pay the kids, and 28 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.959 good luck with that. This is going to hell. I mean honestly, 29 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:05.680 Huh, we're gonna have the ads and uh, it's a problem that it's 30 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:07.560 what they call it. Some guy said, it's like flying the plane and 31 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:12.800 your building it at the same time. Yeah, yeah, how you coming 32 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:21.520 apart? Get the duc date? God got all right? The MLB announced 33 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.719 the All Star Game pictures and reserves yesterday. The All Star Game is a 34 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:31.680 week from tomorrow. Where's that Texas. We've had this conversation before. Do 35 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:36.680 you watch it anymore? Very infrequently? I can't remember the last time I 36 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:39.919 watched it. I don't know the players. That's it. And by the 37 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:44.520 way, your Dodgers screwed me this weekend? Did they did? They did 38 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:51.159 me partly partly back to back party with those guys on Friday and Saturday and 39 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:55.439 then and then and then and then I didn't play him yesterday and they got 40 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:59.240 their ask kick. Well, maybe they'll kid is kind of coming around. 41 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.919 I was all over it. I was all over it. I hate the 42 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:07.800 Dodgers. I didn't like him before I really hit him. She was just 43 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:12.960 for like a ten dollars party. O god? Okay. Five of the 44 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.080 eight Homer and Derby contestants have been announced. Gunner Henderson of the Orioles, 45 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:21.000 Alec Bohma the Phillies, Bobby wit Junior of the Royals, Pete Alonzo the 46 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:23.919 Mets, and Marcello Zuna of the Braids. Heard of three of those guys. 47 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:28.199 If the game was in Dodgers Walker would win it if it was in 48 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:32.960 Dodgers Dadum, Hugh killed the Dodgers. Oh god, he just he obliterated 49 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.240 them. That was not fair. He wasn't even named it. Also, 50 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:42.639 he's been terrible other than that, other than playing the Dodgers. Yeah. 51 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:47.840 The next story. The Sugar Skulls lost to the Arizona Rattlers forty four to 52 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:52.120 thirty seven yesterday to fall to two and twelve on the season, and the 53 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.360 last home game in the season would be this setter. Oh okay, I 54 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:58.280 was gonna say, Jay, what do I what do I know about the 55 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:01.120 indoor league? But Mike is that coach? Will we'll be back? Yeah? 56 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:08.560 Yeah, I mean they they fired good coaches after good season. There's 57 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:11.759 you were my attorney. That's exactly the point. Yeah, yeah, right, 58 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.400 yeah, because the guys, as much as you like him and as 59 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.399 much as I know them, they don't like losing rights as much as Yeah. 60 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:27.879 I mean, you know, when you're doing twelve, everything's everything's it's 61 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.560 not it's not just well, we've had a bunch of injuries. There's things 62 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:34.439 going on that that team is obviously not right, you know, not playing 63 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:39.839 together, not doing things or not. It's not just your roster. It's 64 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:43.480 not having bought into whatever. It's not just your roster, your things going 65 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.519 on. It'll be interesting to see what happens because Billy backed the coach's you 66 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.360 know, he's been a good coach. He was pretty impressive on the show. 67 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:55.800 But he's already over. Well, they got two games left. Their 68 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:58.279 last home game is Saturday, and then they go on the road. Apparently 69 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:00.480 it was over ten weeks ago. Been wow, that what I think? 70 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.439 It's how many to tell you that is in a row, like seventh seventh 71 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:06.959 straight? And they had been in a lot of the games, right, 72 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.040 and they just kind of blow there. Yeah, they're all close games and 73 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:12.959 they yes, well that was the thing. They were in position to win 74 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:16.199 several of those and you know, Blue Blue leads in the fourth quarter. 75 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:21.240 Yeah, there's a lot to be said for stuff like that happens, all 76 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:27.079 right. The Heat took on the Kings yesterday and the California Classic. Hel 77 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.959 Larson had nine points, five rebounds, and six assists and Key Shawan had 78 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.160 thirteen points and three rebounds. Yeah, that's the game I saw. Because 79 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:35.920 we're gonna try to have the guys that cover the game. Yesterday, it 80 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.959 was kind of seems like Saturday, very impressive. But everybody's impressive because you 81 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:44.600 don't know anybody. Yeah, you know, nobody on the rosters against These 82 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:46.959 guys are playing against guys at their level. They're not playing against other NBA 83 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:51.120 players, right, So you got to you gotta take that. But if 84 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:56.360 you show well, you have an opportunity to have a chance, opportunity to 85 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:59.639 make the game, make the team. If you're one of the better players 86 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:02.319 that they see, Yeah there, they'll keep you around. So it's important 87 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:06.839 for them to do well and we'll see if we'll see if you know that 88 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:13.439 works for for Pale and for key Shot. The last story got Georgia got 89 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:17.879 a six eleven offensive tackle Jozari Jackson to commit it which a six eleven off 90 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.759 not a basketball player. He used to play basketball. Now he's playing offensive 91 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:27.759 line. I don't know how that's gonna work. It's like, I mean, 92 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:30.800 you can be too tall, right, I don't know, too tall. 93 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:32.160 Jones was pretty good, but he was a defensive he was what six 94 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.160 nine? Yeah, I don't think. So what was the guy? Who's 95 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.560 the guy that we had on the show that was a fantastic gonna be in 96 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:44.600 one of my guys from not Australia, but uh uh he had started he 97 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.519 was played for Juba under Rich Rod. Oh Peter Hanson, no no, 98 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.319 no, no, no, under under Rich Rod. Uh from over South 99 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:56.800 South Africa. I think it was uh he had started his own company. 100 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.279 He didn't even know how to put on pads. He was a shot. 101 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.560 But oh, I'm never gonna remember, you know, but he was great. 102 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:04.959 He was great, and he was like six eight sixty seven, gut 103 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:10.800 on the the the well, yeah, with our six eight and six seven 104 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:15.439 guys, but six eleven, what's what's that? That's fine? Yeah? 105 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:17.759 Ed too tall with six nine. Yeah, and that was as tall a 106 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:20.279 player as there as it was. And they called him too tall for a 107 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:24.160 reason, right, because the six nine was too tall to be playing, 108 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:29.360 to be playing pro football. I think that he would tell me because he's 109 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:32.480 one of my guys. I forget his name. Why why it's not a 110 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.680 surprise, I forgot his name. But if you could play, you can 111 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:40.639 play, he's your Yeah, well, well again, it all depends on 112 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:44.439 things like you know, feet, your agility, you know, how well 113 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:46.600 do you move six eleven guys? You know, you just wonder can they 114 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:51.399 move as fast? As you need to move to be a quality uh you 115 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:56.000 know, a quality linement. That that's the question I would have you know, 116 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:59.040 can you move your feet? Are you just too big to move and 117 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.120 be able to a basketball player? Right? Former, So you know he's 118 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:05.199 got some Well we've seen some slow lanking back. Well that's been a few 119 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:11.560 year. Yeah, there's been a few year. Yeah. I don't know. 120 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:13.319 I don't know. I don't know how that's gonna how that's gonna work, 121 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.279 I don't know. I've GIFs you to see what that looks like. 122 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:26.160 You'll be like a big giant, you know, oddity, we'll see. 123 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.480 That's all I got. Okay, well you go ahead and bring the Oklahoma 124 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.879 State thing because because that happened. That happened a little before we had coach 125 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:39.000 on yesterday, Oklahoma State running back Ollie Gordon was arrested. I let me 126 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:43.720 look to see exactly what it was for. But he posts a statement this 127 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:48.279 morning about it. So he's a he's Oklahoma State Charnie Dickie's there. He 128 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.559 couldn't, he said, you know, he's not allowed to talk about stuff 129 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.039 like that. He couldn't. What did it matter to us? Right? 130 00:08:54.080 --> 00:09:01.399 It was on June thirtieth, there was a didn't actually say what he did, 131 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:03.320 but he got arrested. I think it was a d U. I 132 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.879 probably something like that, all right. I just the Big Twelve interview schedule 133 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.759 or was just posted and Brent. Brent will be last on Wednesday, so 134 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:18.120 he'll he'll come on at one twenty our time on Wednesday, so we'll be 135 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.519 able to record that and we'll play at the first thing, first thing on 136 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:28.519 the show. They start tomorrow. We'll start tomorrow. The Big Twelve. 137 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.159 Commissioner starts with remarks at ten o'clock in the morning, and then you got 138 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:39.279 TCU there every twenty minute, so it's t starting at eleven o'clock. TCU, 139 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:45.480 Kansas State, Cincinnati, Texas Tech, Utah, as U, and 140 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:50.960 Oklahoma State. And then on Wednesday they started eleven o'clock. It's Dion Sanders, 141 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.600 Colorado, Kansas, West Virginia, b y U, Central Florida, 142 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:00.000 Baylor, Houston, and then Arizona. So we're in the beginning of July 143 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.759 and we've been doing this a long time. Jay, does it seem god 144 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.559 these years as you get older, I'm told that years go faster. Yes, 145 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:15.120 does it seem like already because it's already here. Yes, and we 146 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:20.320 just finished basketball. Yes, we're gonna we're old. Yes, the clock 147 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.039 is going fast, man, because we just last year, wasn't it two 148 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.159 three years ago? Home was COVID and we were dying to have bad football 149 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.559 four years ago and you said five games, we'll take five games. Yeah, 150 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:35.679 we'll take five games in the United the game or whatever instance uh man 151 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.759 goes by. You know, the best thing that happened to Arizona was that 152 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.240 COVID happened because we didn't have to actually go to the stadium and see that 153 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.960 season, okay, and then we didn't have to sit through a seventy to 154 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.080 seven and then it got the coach fired. So really, if you want 155 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.720 to talk about a school that benefited from COVID, that Arizona was one of 156 00:10:54.759 --> 00:11:00.399 them, because that was a mess of a year. It was awful to 157 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.480 go through and all the things that we were going through, and then to 158 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:09.000 see that season unfold the way it did, and then they say we can't 159 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.600 do this anymore, and they got rid of him. And here we are, 160 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:13.480 man, We're going into this year thinking there's one's got a chance to 161 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.759 win a conference. Yeah, win a conference and get in the national place. 162 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.360 Did you have odds are there on winning the conference? Odds in the 163 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.559 conference? Yeah, because that's gotta be bigger than eight eight to one. 164 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:30.120 Don't you think to one? That's not about benef it's eight to one. 165 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:33.080 I'm looking nice, nice long shot with a chance because there was a chance 166 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.759 there might be like ten percent. Yeah, let me see, Yeah, 167 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:43.519 here we go conference winners in the Big twelve. Let me scroll down a 168 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:50.600 little bit on that Utah Here it is Big twelve Utah plus three twenty oh, 169 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:52.639 so the numbers are going to be big. Yeah. Kansas State at 170 00:11:52.679 --> 00:12:00.120 plus three eighty okay, Oklahoma State seven fifty oh wow, Central Florida a 171 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:05.120 nine hundred, Wow, Kansas at nine hundred okay, Iowa State at one 172 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.200 thousand. Well, I do Arizona, Arizona at one thousand. I would 173 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.320 bet at fifty bucks to win five hundred and fifty Arizona at one thousand. 174 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.519 That's that's not a great bet, but it's a pretty good bet. Ten 175 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.240 to one, Yeah, ten to one, even though Utah three and a 176 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.919 half three three, three point two to one. Yeah, there subordered one. 177 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.240 Don't you think they're gonna win this? I mean their best chance to 178 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.679 win this. This is not the PAC twelve. Yeah, no, it's 179 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:35.080 not. It's not because had the Utah, had there been a PAC twelve, 180 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.720 wouldn't Utah be one or two in the league? No, who would 181 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.200 they have been? Well? I think Oregon, Oregon, Oregon, Oregon, 182 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:48.200 USC then probably Utah. Okay, still three and half because Washington's got 183 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:52.360 a lot of Yeah, Arizona would be picked up there, but I don't 184 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:54.039 think they'd be picked ahead of Utah. No, I bet Arizona would have 185 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.360 been picked like fourth. I would put their fifty bucks on Utah and fifty 186 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:03.799 bucks on Arizona. Arizona in a long shot, fifty bucks still eight eight 187 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.879 eight and on the wins. We agreed. We agreed that the seven and 188 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.799 a half is a should do it. Eight is you're gonna get your money 189 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.960 back. And that's Central Florida game, right, didn't we say that that 190 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.360 was the key? I bet you they beat them, soundtral Florida. Yeah, 191 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:24.399 that they beat Yeah, that's gonna that's gonna be a game that's gonna, 192 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:30.759 you know, say a lot about where they wind up. I'm looking 193 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:33.840 for Arizona. It's still probably eight and a half or eight. I'm sorry, 194 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:39.639 Arizona is still eight eight on DraftKings, but we got them at seven 195 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:41.279 and a half. And I think it was fan duel. That's where I 196 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:46.279 picked him up at seven and a half. So you know, uh, 197 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:52.440 look, here's here's the thing, Steve, and this is this is unusual 198 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.840 for Arizona fans. Arizona's in the mix, right, They're in the mix. 199 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.799 Are they the favorite? No? But is it in conceivable? No, 200 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:03.960 it's not inconceivable. It's actually conceivable that they could win the league. 201 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.000 You know, we're going into this thinking and what was the last time you 202 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:13.799 said that? Twenty fifteen? Coming out of the twenty fourteen season, and 203 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.559 that was and and you know, it all went to crap as it always 204 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.799 does for Arizona early on with injuries. Oh okay, that kind of so 205 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:22.840 you asked, you know, you answer that question, was the last time 206 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.559 how often have you said that? Not very Yes, well after the four 207 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:30.679 after the four ten win seasons, and then they went to crap after that. 208 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.639 Yeah. No, no, you have to beat that trend this year 209 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:35.679 exactly. And that's why I told Brent Brandon, you better not screw this 210 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:41.000 up. 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Go to azypest dot 264 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:25.799 com to schedule your free evaluation today. Dreamy Live, I mean, iHeartRadio 265 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:30.480 Act. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacob Salez on 266 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.759 Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to eyeing the Ball here on 267 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:37.599 Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jacob Zauz. I won't 268 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.839 I phone. We have Michael liv of the Arizona Daily Star. Michael, 269 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.559 how you doing good? How are you guys? We're doing well. We 270 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.359 wanted to track you down last week, but you were too nice to or 271 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:52.920 enjoy the enjoying the weather up in the mountains. Now we've got you in 272 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.440 the heat again. Uh, do you have time to reminisce about your column 273 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:02.680 from last week? Of course they said you bought a tier to was brought 274 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:06.359 a tier to my eye, for sure. You know, just all that 275 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:08.160 stuff, Michael, But you know, you know, I talked about it 276 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:11.880 the other day, and I mean your your thoughts on all of that and 277 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:14.799 how you're how you've kind of come, you know, because you were USC, 278 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.839 you know, covering USC before here, so you've been a part of 279 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:22.279 this league all this time. So you know what led wanting to write a 280 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:23.759 column like that, I guess, is what I want to ask. Yeah, 281 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.640 well, I haven't been a part of the Pac twelve as long as 282 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:33.279 some other people, but I very quickly felt like I was part of the 283 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:38.960 club when I started to cover USC, when I moved from the Midwest to 284 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:44.960 the West coast and kind of discovered this cool thing called Pac twelve football. 285 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.799 It just had kind of its own unique feel to it, right, Like 286 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:52.960 the games were on late at night, and it was a different style of 287 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:56.119 play than a lot of the rest of the country, and it's just like, 288 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.319 you know, it felt like something that we could call our own US 289 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:03.640 West Coasters if I might, if I might put myself in that category. 290 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:10.599 The reason I decided to write it was because I think there was a perception 291 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:15.279 that Arizona and the other four Corner schools were leaving for the Big Twelve on 292 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:22.559 July first. There's some social media posts that kind of intimated that that was 293 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.559 the case. It's not actually what's happening. It's actually all get second that 294 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:32.960 it becomes official. But it's happening right the wheels earned motion here. I 295 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:36.680 mean Big twelve media days start tomorrow and those schools are all going to be 296 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:38.960 there, whether they are officially in the conference or not. I just felt 297 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:45.039 like it was a good time to express some of my feelings about this transition, 298 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.079 which I figured were shared by a lot of other people as well. 299 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:55.720 Okay, what were your greatest moments as you remember? I mean many, 300 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:06.000 I think that as as an Arizona Beat reporter. Nothing could possibly top that 301 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:11.359 Kholio tape game at Colorado. I was lucky enough to be there to witness 302 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:18.160 it in person, and it was just I was like speechless, you know, 303 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.640 like it just kept happening over and over and over again. It just 304 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:26.160 could anyone ever play a better, more dominant football game than he did that 305 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:32.039 day? I mean, besides rushing for over three hundred yards and he's twelve 306 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:38.559 or thirteen passing and the one incompletion was a drop, absolutely dominant, kind 307 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:45.440 of out of nowhere, unlike anything anyone had ever seen before. That was 308 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:49.720 that was That was probably my number one even even you know, in all 309 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:53.799 the all my days covering USC, never seen anything quite like that. And 310 00:21:53.880 --> 00:22:00.279 I did witness a USC UCLA game that scores fifty to a thing. This 311 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.319 was Matt I think it was Matt Barkley's junior year, and they really had 312 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:10.359 it rolling, you know, with Marquise Lee and Robert Woods and all those 313 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:15.799 guys. That was dominant from a team standpoint, but it wasn't dominant from 314 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.640 an individual standpoint quite like what Koliot did that day. And older, Yeah, 315 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:23.839 when when you when you think about all this and how not how it's 316 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.680 happened, but just the fact that it has happened. You know. Yes, 317 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.599 those of us who have been around the PAC twelve and PAC ten, 318 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:34.480 you know, we're sad and all that kind of stuff. And where do 319 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:37.359 we lock that up? Right? You know? You know what I'm saying. 320 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:38.359 You know, I want to keep that in my memories, but I 321 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:41.279 don't want to dwell on it because there were some great times and there were 322 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:45.759 some hard times. You know, especially if you're an Arizona fan. Where 323 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.240 do you put it right what you said, it aside and say, okay, 324 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:49.799 forget about it, we move on, or how do you handle that? 325 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:56.319 Yeah, it's it's a good question, because at some point we do 326 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:00.039 need to move on and move forward, right Like, Yeah, kind of 327 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:06.880 counterproductive in a way to just keep reminiscent reminiscing about how things used to be. 328 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:12.839 I do realize that with the new n say video game will have apparently 329 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:19.119 some sort of commissioner type option where you can make your own conferences in leagues. 330 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:23.039 And I'm sure a lot of people are just gonna put Humpy back together 331 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:29.160 again, you know, and recreate the PAC twelve and recreate the old big 332 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:36.079 ten or or whatnot. But once I think once the games get going and 333 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:42.519 Arizona is competing against these new rivals and you maybe win the championship or two 334 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:48.279 in the Big twelve, that people will the memories will start at fade at 335 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:55.039 that point. I would also say that it's not that strange for Arizona, 336 00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:59.480 Asu, Utah, and Colorado to be in the Big twelve, right, 337 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:03.720 I mean collet when Utah weren't in the pack last twelve for very long, 338 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.279 like a decade or so, Arizona and Arizona State forty five plus years. 339 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:12.319 What is weird to me is like what the Big ten is? What the 340 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:17.839 ACC is? You know, where we're just completely throwing geography out the window 341 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:23.960 for what purpose. I'm still not totally clear that none of that will ever 342 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:29.440 make sense to me. I've said it but many times on social media, 343 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:33.319 like it will never not be stupid to me that USC and UCLA are in 344 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:36.720 the Big ten. Right, So let's say we have about ten minutes or 345 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:40.319 a few minutes to talk about what you're looking for in the next few weeks. 346 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:42.359 So with Arizona and just the league, we were just talking about some 347 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:45.720 odds I don't know if you're a betting man, which I hope you're not 348 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:51.720 because you're smart, but usually not. Now, Utah is a three point 349 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:56.759 twenty five a chance to win the league as the favorite, and Arizona a 350 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:59.960 ten to one. Yeah, I like those odds for both of them. 351 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.839 Well, I think you're getting better odds, Yeah, exactly if you bet 352 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:08.960 on Arizona, right then if you bet on Utah. I think that the 353 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:15.119 Big Twelve in both football and men's basketball, it's going to be rough, 354 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:19.319 like it's going to be a battle Royale. I think that, like the 355 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:26.680 teams in basketball are going to be better sort of national conference, national title 356 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.519 contender type teams. I think the stat that I had in my column was 357 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:37.279 four of the top seven in CBSA's like latest way too early rankings and men's 358 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.480 basketball was from the Big Twelve, and Arizona wasn't one of those four. 359 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.359 So that's kind of what you're getting into their football wise, I think a 360 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:51.480 lot of parody, a lot of teams that could win the league, which 361 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:56.559 makes for a very exciting conference slate. Once that gets going, I think 362 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:02.200 there's going to be a ton of toss up games and it's sort of you 363 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.880 know, it's a taste thing, right do you prefer Do you prefer like 364 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.960 that where kind of anybody can win, that's sort of like how the NFL 365 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:12.839 is, Or do you like it when there are a handful of dominant teams 366 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:17.680 that are the same year in and euro out, like Alabama and Georgia right 367 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.359 in the SEC. I kind of I kind of prefer what what we think 368 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:25.400 the Big twelve is going to be like, where there's maybe half a dozen 369 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:29.519 teams that could win the league and every game is going to matter, and 370 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.559 there's going to be a ton of sort of you know, coin flip type 371 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.400 games that will determine the outcome at the end of the day. Well, 372 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.799 when you're when you're Arizona, you like this because you know you've seen, 373 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:44.519 you've been on the other side of it where you know, Washington, Washington, 374 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.960 Oregon USC just dominated the league and you really we're up against up against 375 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.559 it, you know, going into every season with those guys having to deal 376 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.920 with them, you know, and then you know, to your point about 377 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.279 you know, when you have a top heavy league like that, you know 378 00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.880 you've got Oha State and Michigan and everybody thinks the Big ten is a great 379 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:06.039 conference. They're really not, you know, they're really not. They've got 380 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:10.400 two great teams, two great programs. Wisconsin's really good. I was pretty 381 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:14.519 good. Michigan State is good sometimes, but they've sucked recently. It's not 382 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.799 a great conference. It's just got two great teams that makes people think it's 383 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.720 a great conference. And they're making all you know, they're you know, 384 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.440 making the rules and making all the money. You know, the SEC goes 385 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.119 a little deeper, but not that much deeper as well. So you know, 386 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.039 I kind of like where Arizona's going because you know, for long suffering 387 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:37.960 Arizona fans who've never I mean, I know, they've tied for conference championships 388 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.079 but never really won one out right to go to a rosebo or whatever, 389 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:47.079 I like. I like Arizona's chances in this league. Yeah, I do 390 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:52.680 as well, especially with the work that the coaching staff has done to keep 391 00:27:52.720 --> 00:28:00.160 the team intact and then also supplements what they had very quietly. I had 392 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:06.160 a really good transfer portal season, if you will. I feel like not 393 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:10.359 a lot of like big names, none of no quarterbacks, none of that 394 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:15.039 kind of thing, but what they needed, you know, receivers, linemen 395 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:21.440 on both sides of the ball, defensive backs, et cetera. So it 396 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:26.000 would really be something if Arizona were to win the Big twelve in football after 397 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:32.400 never winning the Pack ten Flast twelve in football. There's a lot of competition 398 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:36.240 out there. I could rattle off probably half a dozen teams that I think 399 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:40.720 have a shot at at Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, 400 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:44.640 keep an eye on UCF. They're kind of my They're kind of my 401 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:48.079 sleeper that's not being talked about enough. And then you guys mentioned Utah too, 402 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.160 which is just gonna I mean, they should have no trouble making the 403 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.200 transition from the Pac twelve to the Big twelve. It's not going to be 404 00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.119 like when they went from the Mountain West to the PAC twelve and they had 405 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.880 to kind of change the way they did things a little bit. In terms 406 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.839 of having enough depth, having enough talent to compete with the big boys. 407 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.440 They're going to be the big boys when they first get there, and I 408 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:17.960 think Arizona is well positioned to compete right away as well. I'm assuming you're 409 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:22.039 not going to be in Vegas tomorrow. Maybe you are, but did you 410 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.519 vote for the media poll? Okay, I did not vote for the media 411 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:32.799 poll because I don't like to vote for things where I don't feel like I 412 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:37.200 have enough knowledge. At this point, I'm just still I'm still learning, 413 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.920 you know, I'm still learning these big twelve teams. I don't have the 414 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.559 same kind of I don't have the same feel for them that I developed for 415 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:51.480 the PAC twelve teams over the years. As far as Vegas goes, I 416 00:29:52.640 --> 00:30:00.279 poorly planned my vacation or perhaps brilliantly planned my vacation to overlap with both twelve 417 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.880 media Days and the MLB Draft. So I'll be actually missing both of those 418 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:11.759 events, but will will be well represented in Vegas justin spears. My colleague 419 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.440 will be there, someone else might be there from our staff two, among 420 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:22.039 many many others. I'll be monitoring the events from the Midwest. But I 421 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:23.599 don't know. Do you guys think that was a good good vacation planning. 422 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:34.480 Excellent vacation planning, excellent springs exactly. That's okay, plus plus this is 423 00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.119 too early, though, I like okay, I like the way, you 424 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.559 know, it's giving us something to talk about these next couple of days. 425 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:42.880 It's a little ar it's about two weeks too early in my mind, Hell, 426 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:48.480 I don't want to be doing this interview right now, Mike. I 427 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.359 want mikel I want to be doing this interview. I'm happy to be talking. 428 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.559 He knows exactly so so Michael, So what are you maybe looking forward 429 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.920 to hearing tomorrow or seeing or whatever? If you are going to pay a 430 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.799 little attention, I would say to me, like, the most the most 431 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.480 interesting man in Las Vegas, as he kind of is everywhere he goes, 432 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:15.920 is Deon Sanders. It's been like another off season full of different headlines, 433 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:23.720 another off season where they completely transformed the roster in a way that is unconventional 434 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.240 to say the least, and a lot of people are questioning whether it's going 435 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.839 to work. So I want to hear what Dion has to say about his 436 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:40.720 team, about the way he's going about building this program, whether he's in 437 00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:45.279 it for the long haul, et cetera. To me, he's the guy 438 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.319 that I want to hear the most. Although there's a lot, you know, 439 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:53.000 there's a lot of interesting characters that we're going to kind of be introduced 440 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:57.200 to here, as well as some familiar faces. I think Mike Gundy is 441 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.359 another one who always seems like he kind of speaks his mind, yeah, 442 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.680 you know, and then doesn't hold back. And he's got a lot of 443 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:09.400 like a lot of starters returning to a team that did really well last year. 444 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:13.400 So maybe that's another one that I would throw into that group of people 445 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.200 I'm interested to hear from. Yeah, I feel like I I you know, 446 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:21.400 like over the years, I kind of really stop watching the Pac twelve 447 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.519 media days except to hear what the you know, the Arizona guys had to 448 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:27.799 say. I feel like I need to see this one, right, get 449 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.680 to know these coaches a little bit who they are, right. I couldn't 450 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:32.960 even name all the coaches in the Big twelve right now, but you know, 451 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.000 find out you know who they are and what you know, what they 452 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.039 sound like, and what we can expect to hear from them, especially the 453 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:44.640 teams that Arizona's playing. This Kansas State game that's a non conference that's a 454 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.839 non conference game, but it's still, you know, one of the featured 455 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:51.559 games of the Big Twelve because of you know, two of the favorites for 456 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.880 the league. How big how important is this game to Arizona? Do you 457 00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.000 think right at this stage? Well, of all, I would say that 458 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:08.599 it is unfortunate level that they weren't able to cancel this series because they you 459 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:13.079 know, they essentially have to play a tenth Big Twelve game, right and 460 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.759 not only that, it's like one of the best teams in the league, 461 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:20.400 and this year it's on the road, so a lot a lot of challenges 462 00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.720 presented by that. The good news is, you know, if they lose 463 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:28.200 that game, it does not hurt them in the Big Twelve standing. So 464 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.960 and I think they might very well lose that game. It's on. It's 465 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.119 going to be a Friday night game in Manhattan, and that crowd is going 466 00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.960 to be nuts, and that's a really physical team, kind of a Utah 467 00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:44.000 type of team that they're going to be playing. They will Arizona will have 468 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:49.559 played New Mexico and and a you beforehand, you know, all due respect 469 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.759 to them, not on the same level as Kansas State. So this will 470 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.480 be your kind of welcome to the Big twelve moment, even though it's not 471 00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.960 officially a Big twelve game. I think we'll get a really good game of 472 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:05.000 what this Arizona team is all about that night, and it'll give them a 473 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.559 good idea of the improvements that they need to make. Before they start Big 474 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:14.119 Twelve play officially, and conveniently enough, they have a bye week afterward to 475 00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.320 kind of work out the kinks and heal up and so forth before starting that 476 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.920 conference gauntlet. So in some ways it's regrettable that they're playing that game, 477 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.320 but in other ways, I feel like it's a nice sure, you know, 478 00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.840 it's a preview of what's to come, and it's kind of well positioned 479 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:36.559 on the schedule too, where it's the end of your pre season schedule and 480 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:38.159 you have a week off the following week. We got to go real quick 481 00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:43.440 though. The fifth place finish. Did you like it? Did you think 482 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.000 it is fair? What do you think? Totally reasonable? But I think 483 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:50.880 the ceiling is higher. I think they could definitely finish in the top two 484 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:53.480 and make the Big twelve championship game if things go their way. I agree. 485 00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.079 Okay, thank you, Michael, very good. Michael, appreciate and 486 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.679 enjoy your vacation. Yeah, don't let guys like us horn in on your 487 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.400 vacation anymore. Just take the rest of the week, but we'll catch you 488 00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:06.480 when you come back. Yeah, indeed, take care, guys. Ples 489 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.159 Michael lev obviously from The Daily Star, we got to go as good. 490 00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.079 We get one more segment. Okay, let's take our break. We'd love 491 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.679 to get here hear from you five to zero, four, one, six, 492 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.519 seventy four, forty. 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When we're done for 535 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.760 the day, give us a call five two oh four one six seventy four 536 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.760 forty five to two oh four one six seventy four forty we'd love to hear 537 00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.320 from you. How was your weekend? I agree with lev in terms of 538 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:51.599 the fifth place. I think they're going to finish higher than that. That's 539 00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.000 why I wouldn't mind thinking that they have a chance to win it all at 540 00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.360 ten to one. Yeah, that's pretty good. Probably. Yeah. I 541 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.920 mean here, here's the thing, and if you can just get into the 542 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.760 pack into the Big twelve championship game, yeah right, that's a win. 543 00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:07.719 Right. If you get into the Big twelve championship game, now you got 544 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:13.039 your shot. So he really just finished first or second and you got a 545 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.760 chance to win it to win the league. Right, And I think that's 546 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.559 a possible and that's a doable thing. Yeah. Yeah, you know, 547 00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:21.000 is you talk, you expect you tire to be there. You do. 548 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.480 But after that, you can you can throw Arizona in with all those teams 549 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.800 and realistic I think that he was. You know, he's funny because he's 550 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:31.800 realistic about a lot of things. He didn't vote because he didn't have enough 551 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:35.239 information, and he's in the business. Yeah, I mean, I was 552 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.960 gonna ask you just now, of the sixteen teams, how comfortable you are? 553 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:43.199 Are you about talking about sixteen of them? Right, I'm talking about 554 00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:47.800 I'm comfortable, but talking about four Arizona, Asu, Utah, Colorada, 555 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.760 and Colorado, and what do you know about them? Right? Right? 556 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.239 You would know some things, but you know enough to you know enough to 557 00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.559 get us in trouble. And I guarantee you you're not unlike the other guys 558 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.599 out there right talking about And that's my and that's my point about why I 559 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:07.800 think Arizona finished fifth in the voting, because there's probably a number of those 560 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.800 guys who voted in there who don't really know Arizona. Said, I can't 561 00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.000 put Arizona over over Kansas or Oklahoma State because I don't know enough about them. 562 00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.159 Yeah, right, very true. So I think that had something to 563 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.079 do with where they finished in the voting. In the end of voting doesn't 564 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.679 matter, we always say that, but you know, still you like to 565 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.079 have a sense. Look, I like the fact that I'd rather be Arizona 566 00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.960 being picked to finished fifth and you been picked finished last. True, And 567 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.440 I would rather have Arizona fifth and I would have them second, right, 568 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:38.599 And I say that because Arizona plays better with a chip on his shoulder, 569 00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:43.960 Yes, and then always has yes, And here you are and yeah, 570 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.199 I'm with you on that as well. I mean again, you know the 571 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.760 two years that you know, they were top five teams and stuff like that 572 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.119 going into the season and they went into the crapper immediately. Well, that's 573 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.039 the funny thing. I was just gonna ask you because you know the history 574 00:40:55.039 --> 00:41:00.920 of it. So because because the crapper is always coming after doing really well. 575 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.000 After the year they did really well, they were the expectations were pretty 576 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.719 high, right, Yes, so the expectations are high, but not crazy 577 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:13.400 high, right, and and the right, and there's some uncertainty because of 578 00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.599 the new coaching staff, right, so it's like okay, yeah, you 579 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.679 know, you know, yeah, we like the coaching staff from what we've 580 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.079 seen so far, but we don't know, uh, and we don't know 581 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.519 you know, what's Brent Brinon going to be like on the sidelines. You 582 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:29.280 know, you got you know, he's not calling the plays. You know, 583 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.480 Dino Baber is gonna be calling the players, calling the place. You 584 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:36.039 know, Dwayna Keene has got this defense, Now, how's he going to 585 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:38.920 be different? You know, this is the this is the third uh defensive 586 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:46.320 coordinator since uh no, the fourth right, no, third since from the 587 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.880 time Jed Fish got here, because he had he had yeah the first year 588 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:57.519 he left, the first done uh Brown, Yeah, yeah, the sack 589 00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:02.760 master, the guy, and then then they had uh uh he left, 590 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:15.079 uh Johnny Nancy That that sounds right. I know his last name was Nancy. 591 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.800 I can't remember it, but you know, was he two years? 592 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:21.480 I think so? Yeah, and then he went to Texas and then he 593 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:23.719 went to Texas. So you know, this is the third defensive coordinator in 594 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.719 four years for this group of guys. That's a little tough, you know. 595 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.000 So but again, we all, you know, the familiarity that we 596 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.639 all have with Dwayne and Kina makes us comfortable that you know, as fans, 597 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.639 we think that Arizona's defense is going to be pretty decent because you like 598 00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:43.119 what he's done here in the past. You talk about tougher and I'm just 599 00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.400 gonna be devils get here for a second. Tough on the kids because they 600 00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.760 have to get new acclimated too. So so you have kids, I have 601 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.480 kids. Uh, kids are tougher than we give there, they're smarter, 602 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:58.599 they're tougher, and it's like they're people going through divorce. Don't say this 603 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.719 in front the kids. The kids know what the hell you're talking about. 604 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.440 You can close the door and still they know what you're talking about. And 605 00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:06.079 actually, at the end of the day, they say, parents, why 606 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:07.440 didn't you get divorced a long time ago? We know you hated each other, 607 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.440 you know, saying the kids are way more resilient than we give them, 608 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.039 especially athletes who have been through this before. Oh, he's working on 609 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.559 his fourth and fifth defensive coordinator officers, I guess what they just want to 610 00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.480 play, Tell me the play name and blah blah blah, and I'll be 611 00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.199 there. And you know what, they've forgotten so much by the time you 612 00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.440 get around to the next season, or even if it's even if the defense 613 00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.679 is the same, there's still some things that you gotta you gotta brush up 614 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.280 on. Part of the problem, Jay is our questions. You know, 615 00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:37.000 Okay, this is your fourth defense score, and is it tough to what 616 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:38.280 are they gonna say? You know, it's a little bit different, but 617 00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:43.360 but I got it. Yeah, And we're just looking for a story exactly, 618 00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.440 and we just want to hear what they say. Are you saying that 619 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.480 are the in this? No, we're the obvious jerks in this. We're 620 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:52.360 not jerks. But we're we're searching for a story, hoping that they're creating, 621 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.519 trying to create it. We're trying to create a story and hope there 622 00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:59.840 maybe isn't one exactly. And that's part of the media's fault. Now, 623 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.519 probably it is me fault because you do we come on, how many times 624 00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.599 did your boss? I know my boss time or two? Sis asking this 625 00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.079 question? This is it's a dumb question because it doesn't apply. And you 626 00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:15.440 just asked the question, so goods what you gotta do the question? That's 627 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.920 the question? Now? I agree, you know, we'll see I think 628 00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.480 you know, you get them in the spring, you work, you know 629 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:24.760 by the time they roll out, roll them out, even you know the 630 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.000 first game, you know, you get, you get the glitches out, 631 00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.639 and then you beat the hell out of NAU and then you go to Kansas 632 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:32.039 State and you're ready to play them and that's all you want, right, 633 00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.199 you know, you don't want to be showing up at the at the Kansas 634 00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.320 State game and still not have an idea of what you're doing. I think 635 00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:42.639 this is a coaching staff that will They have an idea of what they're doing. 636 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.000 They know what they want to do, and I think they all know 637 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.480 what they got. They're so experienced. Well that's so they didn't get to 638 00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:52.119 this point because they're dumbies. Right, They're still coaching because they've been pretty 639 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:58.440 damn good coaches. Well, let me see this. I've covered some coaches 640 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.440 that were kind of not ready for this. Just three four years ago. 641 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.039 We had one here who got paid a lot of money to get the hell 642 00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.239 out of Dodge. Yeah. Honestly, I don't know how he made it 643 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:12.960 to this point. Yeah. I mean, you could have asked for more 644 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.719 from Jed Fish than he gave you when I'm telling you the coach before him. 645 00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:22.280 That's what I'm saying to the When you think of the depths that Kevin 646 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.440 Sumlan took this this program to and we're only three years later, well the 647 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.159 fourth season. Since then, you're talking about, Hey, they can win 648 00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:35.639 the league, right, right? You know, I mean that the flip 649 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.039 on that was was dramatic, and I'll always give Jed Fish credit for that. 650 00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:43.559 You know, he came in here and he fixed this. Yeah, 651 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.599 and in a quicker time than you think, because I remember that in a 652 00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:51.000 You game and it was what second third game into the season. He looked 653 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.119 like a defeated man, like what the hell did I get? And you're 654 00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:59.039 thinking he was like his face, his body was like I don't know what 655 00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:00.920 I'm doing and you're thinking, then we're thinking, at least I'm thinking, 656 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.119 do you know what you're doing? Yeah, because he looked he looked like 657 00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.320 he had lost his dog in a fire. Yeah, yeah, No, 658 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.159 that's what happened. It was the third game because remember they be they lost 659 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:15.199 b y U and got slaughtered by by San Diego State here uh and then 660 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:20.159 then the NAU thing happened and it was awful. I remember walking out. 661 00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.960 I was I couldn't remember if I was more you were pissed, hurt or 662 00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.039 or pissed. I think I was pissed, and it was really pissed, 663 00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.599 but and I don't remember being all that pissed at Jed. I was pissed 664 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.920 at someone, Yeah, because because of the mess he left behind, right 665 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.119 that it was so bad that Arizona lost then. Yeah, and the thing 666 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:44.239 about it, Jay, they were months removed from a seventy to seven loss. 667 00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.760 Yeah, to put in perspective, Yeah, no, absolutely, I 668 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:50.079 mean, yeah, you were here. You had to be here. That 669 00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.039 was my freshman year. Yeah, what are you thinking? What the hell? 670 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:58.199 Why did I come here? You were? My dog has got lots 671 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:02.239 of the fire. I could be in New York City. I could have 672 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.960 gone somewhere else, would have been more fun to go to a football game. 673 00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:15.079 Yeah. And again because because I'll go back to the Macovic years. 674 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:21.599 Right when when Mackovic left, I thought it's going to be ten years, 675 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.119 right, right, So and and it was and so Macavic left after the 676 00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:29.639 two thousand and It took four, didn't it it. Yes, Stoops didn't 677 00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.519 have a winning season until I think it's the fifth season or something like that. 678 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:35.280 Yeah, I thought it was his fourth, but you're probably right. 679 00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:38.559 I have to go back, Yeah, because you know, it took a 680 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:44.480 while. And even even then, Steve, you know, they still weren't 681 00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:49.039 great for you know, I mean they finally had that one year, the 682 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.599 you know, the best year that they had ended poorly when they got beat 683 00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.519 by Nebraska and the Holiday Bowl. But that team was was you know they 684 00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:02.400 if they beat Oregon in that overtime game, you know, game day was 685 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.639 here in the whole bit, they win that game during the Rose Bowl, 686 00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.840 you know, so that team was his best team and it ended bad into 687 00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:14.079 and a year and a half later he was gone. So it you know, 688 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.239 it just I don't know here I'm looking. It was, you know, 689 00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.880 it was his fifth year was when he had a winning season. He 690 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:22.199 went three eight, three, eight, six, six, five seven, 691 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.960 then a couple of eight and five seasons and then he went seven to six 692 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.960 and then he was one of five and got fired. So you know it, 693 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:34.400 you think that, you know, their best years were, you know, 694 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.679 in Stupis's time, we're eight and five. They were ten to three 695 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.000 last year in the third season. So you couldn't have asked for a quicker 696 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.719 turnaround. Really, when you think of the debts that this program was at 697 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:47.800 no in fact, in fact, uh, when we say this every now 698 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:53.239 and again, being realistic, anybody who has bad words for Fish should kind 699 00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:57.639 of temper those a little because relaxed, because he did a great job getting 700 00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:00.559 to Arizona at this point, didn't leave in a bad way. Were but 701 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:02.239 you know, you know, you had a great time with him. And 702 00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:07.000 if you think he was here for any longer than it took to get a 703 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:10.119 much better job than you, than that you were the one that didn't really 704 00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:15.840 Yeah, you're the one that didn't really see the the you know, the 705 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.480 situation. You know, but by that day he got here. But I 706 00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:22.440 loved you. You're telling me you're leaving. I loved you. You said 707 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.159 you loved it here. Well, I did until they offered me seven and 708 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.199 a half million dollars to go there. Yeah, and so I went there 709 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.400 and that and that's fine. You know, I'm fine with it. And 710 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:36.880 anybody I know, most people I know, would have done the same. 711 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.320 Heartbeats in a heartbeat. So okay, okay, now we move on and 712 00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.920 we have Brendan, and we'll see what he does. I think he's gonna 713 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:49.079 do fine because demeanor is exactly what you need. He's not yeah, he's 714 00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.480 not high, it's not low. Yeah, yeah, he's just you know, 715 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:54.440 I got a job to do. I'm gonna do it, and I 716 00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:58.519 think I can do it well. And I and I like this program and 717 00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:00.159 I and I'm you know, he's putting his heart into it. He really 718 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:06.599 is, you know, and I think that, uh, and that's what 719 00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:08.119 Arizona fan wants. I hope, I hope we get this right here in 720 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:10.360 the next few days. If not, you know, a few days, 721 00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.400 and if not, early next week because she'll tell us about the tickets. 722 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.000 I don't know what the enthusiasm is. You you have a better gauge. 723 00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:20.599 I don't really know. I mean, I think there's a lot of buzz 724 00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:24.320 for this this team for this year. I mean, we know what the 725 00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.559 ticket prices are this year and stuff like that. So I think it's fine. 726 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:29.599 I think people are going to I think people are gonna be out there 727 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:34.400 this year. I think I'll bet you there's high forties for the opener, 728 00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.280 you know, forty seven, forty eight thousand New Mexico, you know, 729 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:44.639 probably more like mid forties for than AU game. And then you know, 730 00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:46.400 then they're off for you know, their next two games are on the road, 731 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:50.920 you know, and so if they don't fall flat on their faces, 732 00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:52.880 and you know, they could lose, they could be two and two coming 733 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.159 back when they come. You know, they could lose to Utah, they 734 00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:00.280 could lose Kansas State very much, they could be two and two. But 735 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.840 if they don't just get obliterated at in those two games, and look, 736 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.960 and then let's say they win one of those games, and now you're three 737 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.079 and one with a win over a ranked team because both Kansas State and you're 738 00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:14.280 trying to be ranked, then you're going, okay, you know, all 739 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:15.719 things are possible. Well, that's the thing. I think we talked about 740 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:20.079 that with the Mississippi State game last year. If they have a chance, 741 00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.440 they had a chance and they didn't win it, and they were still kind 742 00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.480 of competitive, not kind of they were they were and and then you thought 743 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.039 you got to and you thought you should have won the damn game. You 744 00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:30.000 don't turn the ball. And then a week or sold it whatever weeks later 745 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.920 USC and you had them on the ropes. Yeah. Uh. And then 746 00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.079 then when that one, I mean, there's that year was so many little 747 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:42.800 things that just could have happened. Yeah, Okay, a good show on 748 00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.280 the day back. We have a couple of minutes left, but it's still 749 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:46.719 a good show. It has been fun. Uh. Tomorrow, we're trying 750 00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:51.519 to get some people from the from the first day of the media day and 751 00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.360 Wednesday, will try to do the same as mentioned. Uh, you know, 752 00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:59.800 Arizona's not on the not on the agenda for tomorrow. You we're gonna 753 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.800 hear from and you can see this on watch this on ESPN you and on 754 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:09.199 the Big twelve channel on on ESPN Plus. But tomorrow you've got TCU so 755 00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:15.599 Sunny Dyke's, Kansas State coach Chris Climban, Cincinnati coach Scott Satderfield, Texas 756 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.679 Tech, Utah a s U, Oklahoma State, and Iowa State, and 757 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:24.000 then you got Arizona is the last team up on Wednesday. So it's a 758 00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:28.559 two day, two day media day. There's some stuff as mentioned, some 759 00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.840 stuff on ESPNU. You can guess you can watch the press conferences live if 760 00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:37.760 you want so well on ESPN. Yeah, oh really ESPNU. Okay, 761 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.199 all right, cool, Okay, thanks for being here. We're gonna be 762 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.679 back tomorrow and all week, and I think Steve not gonna be for most 763 00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:46.239 of the summer. Right, I'll be gone. Well, I'll tell you 764 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:52.039 great, I have things to do. You do. Okay, thanks for 765 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:53.920 being here. I hope everybody had a great last weekend and you're gonna have 766 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.000 a great week this week. So we'll see you tomorrow.