1 00:00:02,839 --> 00:00:06,719 What's my pleasure to bring into the podcast today my old pal John Ryder, 2 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:10,800 John super middleweight contender for a long time. He got an important fight coming 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,519 up in January twenty seventh at the Footprint Center in Phoenix, Arizona, taking 4 00:00:15,519 --> 00:00:20,079 on the undefeated Jimi Mongia in a fight frankly I think can miss for fans. 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,120 Frankly, just in terms of the action that you two guys bring to 6 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:26,760 the ring. How you doing and how much excitement do you have for this 7 00:00:26,879 --> 00:00:30,519 level of a fight. It blezn't to be Dan, Thanks having me on. 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,240 It's great to be here and involving another big fight against an undefeated opponent 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,520 in Parliment, Gia. And something for me is to show redemption. I 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,560 had the fight with last year. I think that we have planned so it's 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,399 great to start when it's twenty four with a bang against another big name. 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,479 Well, you just mentioned that it's an undefeated. You know, himI is 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,719 an undefeated opponent. He hasn't lost anybody sat some close calls, I guess 14 00:00:55,719 --> 00:01:00,600 as including his last fight against Sergey devin Schenko. How do you uh prepared 15 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:03,400 yourself mentally or however you go about getting ready for fight? Thinking about taking 16 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:08,239 an undefeated record, how do you go about that. I don't train any 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,560 different. We just we'll train one way. We trained hard. Obviously, 18 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:18,359 how he's had a change of camp lately, and it's Freddie Roach, so 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,319 we're expecting new things from paying Short for sure. But so we trained diligently. 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:29,280 We need tournament camp and nothing changes. We trained hard and we prepare 21 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,840 for the hardest battle possible. So in his last fight that took place in 22 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,159 June, as I mentioned, he fought Sergei devn Schenko. A lot of 23 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,599 people picked that as the twenty twenty three fight of the year. I made 24 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,280 it number two on my list. I mean, it was a really outstanding, 25 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:47,040 you know, all action, very exciting fight. He's certain it was 26 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:49,959 a close decision that Haimi won. He came real, real close to losing 27 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:52,439 that fight. It was a really tough fight for him. He took a 28 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,359 lot of punishment, as did Surgey in that fight. He's coming back to 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,760 fight John Ryder, who's never made it easy for his opponents, even in 30 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:02,079 fight that you have lost. I mean, do you think that maybe you're 31 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:08,680 getting him at the right time? Coming off that kind of battle potentially is 32 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:15,560 a rold level fire tough man and yeah him and getpool at the bag in 33 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,199 the last round, but I dropped him and in his favor, so he's 34 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,560 got that in the locker. He's dangerous through that, So you got give 35 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:28,479 him the tough respect. But like I said, I've trained hard and ready 36 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:34,080 for a toss four brands. I'm going to put all online. Chan well, 37 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,560 as you mentioned, you're you're also coming off of a defeat. You're 38 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,960 coming off of a defeat in another fight that was very tough, hard fight 39 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,639 in your World championship opportunity against the undisputed champion Canelo Alvarez. He knocked you 40 00:02:45,719 --> 00:02:49,319 down. You were bloody in that fight. He showed such a big heart. 41 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,719 I wonder how in the world did you get through that fight, because 42 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:53,520 it looked to me like there were times where if you had packed it in, 43 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,080 I don't think anybody would have said a bad word about you, because 44 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,560 that's how tough of a fight it was. It was tough. Yeah, 45 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,240 I got my nose broken the second round. I felt sorry for myself for 46 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:08,240 a few rounds after that, and then just got dropped and bit down, 47 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:13,120 come out swinging. I took a ton of credit from that fight. And 48 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:19,000 like you say, you you you can go to certain places and people give 49 00:03:19,039 --> 00:03:22,879 their credit for getting up and carrying on, and you go to these places 50 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:24,840 you don't carry on this. They're talking about your back. What do you 51 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:28,759 prefer? What do you want from this? And said, I don't want 52 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,840 too many hard fights like that. I don't want to be set sat there 53 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:37,599 in my later years thinking about these hard fights I had and reaping the benefit 54 00:03:37,719 --> 00:03:40,560 of the So got the benefits, the reaping the harm they've done, so 55 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:46,439 no less damage the best. But it was great to put all the line 56 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,639 against and I'm willing to do the same. Good time and the gear. 57 00:03:50,639 --> 00:03:53,199 You know, do you think that because you know, even though you lost 58 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,960 the fight, because you put in such a tremendous effort, so much heart 59 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:00,879 made it's such a great fight that even with the defeat, it kept you 60 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,560 viable for a high profile fight like this one, because if you had maybe 61 00:04:04,599 --> 00:04:08,759 been knocked out or didn't show the kind of heart you did or make it 62 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,759 such a good fight for the fans and everybody watching, that maybe they overlooked 63 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,800 John Ryder and you don't get picked for this particular assignment. Yeah, for 64 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:20,000 sure. The saying it was I didn't win the fight, but I won 65 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:25,240 the night. Yeah, a lot a ton of fans, a lot of 66 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,199 Mexican fans come on boot off to that fight, and that's a lot of 67 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:31,720 credit from mat So it was a humdred expirits event. Now, you went 68 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:34,800 into that fight against Canelo, you had won four fights in a row. 69 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,160 The fight you lost going you know, before that streak started was in twenty 70 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,920 nineteen. You had a really including by the way in that streak, you 71 00:04:43,959 --> 00:04:46,560 had that close win against Danny Jacobs, but the loss in twenty nineteen was 72 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,279 a super close fight where a lot of people thought you deserved to be the 73 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:54,399 winner against Callum Smith. Does that one sort of still eat away at you 74 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,720 at all gets you bothered because that was a lot of people thought that was 75 00:04:57,759 --> 00:05:01,720 really not a great call. Yeah, it's a bit of I think I'm 76 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:05,560 over it now. I can't hang on hang on that one for too long. 77 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:12,560 But it's animately I've got the shot at the man in Canelo, So 78 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,360 then that's what I was doing it for. I probably would have gone come 79 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:20,319 away from the kind of a lot more financially set having gone in there as 80 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,399 world champion, but certain regardless I've got in there gets the best. I've 81 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,040 pitched myself gets the best, and I didn't win, But I still feel 82 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:34,120 like a tow away winner. Now you have one over the course of your 83 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,879 career, two interim titles, if I'm not mistaken, in the super middleweight 84 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,680 division. But I have to believe that any boxer that's still going on that 85 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:45,399 the ultimate goal is to win a major world title. Do you still harbor 86 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,439 those dreams of winning a major championship? I know this fight with Heimi is 87 00:05:48,439 --> 00:05:51,160 not a world title fight, you know, although it might as well be 88 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:54,519 for a lot of people, but it's not. But does that still one 89 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,360 of the goals that you have before you call it a day? Yeah, 90 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,160 I mean that's still the dream, that's still the fire burning. Obviously, 91 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,839 we know all the titles are tied up now with Canello and whatnot, But 92 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,079 just got hope that in the in the coming months were pressing those in good 93 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:13,399 positions and who knows what a lack of the titles some made folk meant and 94 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:16,839 we can get a shot a vacant title. You know. I mentioned before 95 00:06:16,959 --> 00:06:20,639 Callum Smith, I wondered he had just had his fight where he got the 96 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,399 opportunity at light heavyweight to fight for the Unified championship against Arthur better be f 97 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:28,160 and uh, you know, he really got taken apart. I wonder if 98 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,639 you saw that matchup and what you thought about your old your old foe, 99 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,439 you know, getting it handed to him in that match. Yeah. I 100 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,920 watched it, and I thought the time was right for Callum. I thought 101 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,360 he could become two world champion. But better be Av was. He was 102 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,399 sensational that night, and he doesn't like he dropped off the pace at all. 103 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,000 I was worried and concerned where he had the injury and postponed to the 104 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,920 fight. But listen, I think he showed that he's still got it. 105 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,879 So as you go into your fight with Heimie, like I said earlier in 106 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,279 the in the in the conversation, you know, you like to come forward, 107 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:04,920 and you've never been afraid to mix it up with your opponents. Gia 108 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,199 obviously has never been a problem with him mixing up with his opponents. I 109 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,800 look at the matchup when this was announced and I thought to myself, I 110 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,319 mean, I just see, no way this is not going to be a 111 00:07:15,319 --> 00:07:18,680 fan friendly kind of fight. Do you have that sort of the same opinion. 112 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:21,759 You you know what you're in for, don't you. Yeah, I 113 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:28,040 think I prepared, and like I said, we're enforced that. I think 114 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,800 the fans are in for a treat, And yeah, sent you down a 115 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,360 handimate. I think you might be right about that. Well, you are 116 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:38,279 thirty five, and this is a great opportunity for you. You've had the 117 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:42,480 opportunity against Canelo and the biggest fight you could have in your career in that 118 00:07:42,519 --> 00:07:45,839 way class, And I just wonder how much how much longer do you see 119 00:07:45,839 --> 00:07:47,279 yourself going on or do you just sort of at this point take it fight 120 00:07:47,319 --> 00:07:54,000 by fight? Yeah, fight by fight. There's no there's no real long 121 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,560 long term plan. I mean, I'm enjoying bots at the moment, and 122 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,519 at the moment, I still feel like I'm in more from boxing than boxing 123 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:05,920 to get from me. So as long as that continues, and I'll be 124 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,879 in these in around these shows. But as soon as I like boxes, 125 00:08:09,959 --> 00:08:13,639 take a month mid and I'll obviousit down on my team and we'll call it 126 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,720 today. So then I'll wrap up with this. When you go into the 127 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,199 ring against Moggya on January twenty seventh, do you have a sort of a 128 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,839 thought in your mind of how you think the fight unfolds, how you think 129 00:08:22,839 --> 00:08:26,839 it goes. And we know there's gonna be a lot of contact, but 130 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,240 beyond that aspect of the fight, yeah, no, I see myself in 131 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:33,600 my hand getting raised if it comes from a stoppage or a point to me. 132 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:37,159 And I think that the judge will be will be fair here. And 133 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,960 I think we saw that the Drinko fight. There's a close fight, but 134 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,200 I think we saw and we we agreed that the last the last round one 135 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,120 for time. And so I've got faith from the judges. Regardless how I'll 136 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,000 be talking through, I've quite to get the win. Well, I would 137 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,480 say, whatever is going to happen the night of that fight, I think 138 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,320 the fans, like you said, are going to be in for a treat. 139 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,279 Should be great matchup. I wish you the best of luck, john 140 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,840 You've always been a stand up guy. I appreciate your time and I wish 141 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:07,919 you the best of luck. Thanks, Jep, you bet Johnny M.