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It's time for coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
So this came up a later. It

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was late last week. I think
it actually might have been on Friday,

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which we had a shorter show on
Friday, so I don't know if we

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had a smaller audience. But the
Louisville Kentucky basketball game, the first game

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with this new era of the rivalry, new era for both programs with Pack

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Kelsey and Mark Pope. It's going
to take place on Saturday, December fourteenth.

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It'll be at rapp Arena. And
it being on a Saturday, I

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think is good news for a lot
of fans who were just bothered and uncomfortable,

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uncomfortable about it being on a weekday
last week last year. I think

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this is a game we'll watch regardless
of where they put it, when they

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put it, because you know,
in most instances we care that much Louisville

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not as much in the last couple
of years, just because we were so

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lifeless and just defeated that losing the
Kentucky under Kenny Payne really didn't change I

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mean it didn't. It didn't give
any added I mean, what Kenny said

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after the game last year actually is
what ended up being the talking point and

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what really, you know, further
proof that he is you know, he

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was his days were numbered. But
anyways, this falls on a perfect day

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because it's the day. It's the
Saturday right after the conference championships in college

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football take place. So it's kind
of like the rare Saturday in the fourth

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quarter of the calendar year where there's
no football. The NFL, you know,

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doesn't play on Saturday. In fact, maybe they do play Saturday night

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on December fourteenth, But either way, you've got Louisville and Kentucky on a

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day where you're not you know,
you're not going to be losing some attention

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to bowl games, like bowl games
haven't started yet, so college football is

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really just off that week, whereas
and actually it might be the day of

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the Army Navy game. I think
about it. I think that game takes

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place in between. Actually think it
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But either way, my point is
this college basketball is now doing something

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that I think is pretty strategic,
and I don't know who's responsible for it,

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but that is a Saturday where you
can really kind of have a you

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know, day to yourself when there's
not football to get in the way.

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So Louisville Kentucky you're going to play
that day. Creighton and Alabama are going

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to play that day, which should
be a really good non conference matchup Xavier

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and Cincinnati and another rivalry, Tennessee
at Illinois. I mean, no connection

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there that I'm aware of, but
that those are two teams that you know,

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we're two of the top fifteen teams
in the country last year. UCLA

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is going to play Arizona and Phoenix, Texas. A and m is going

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to play Perdue. So a really
good day of non conference college basketball games

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on December fourteenth. Obviously we're going
to be focused on that Louisville Kentucky game,

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but I wish the sport of college
hoops did more scheduling wise in the

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earlier part of their season. And
sometimes it doesn't matter what they do because

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football is just going to dominate.
We know that, but I think there

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are some things that you can do
to really take advantage of you know,

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non conference scheduling, meaning you don't
have to follow your league schedule. You

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know, these events that could be
you know again, you're never going to

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get the eyeballs and the viewership that
you get in college football and certainly not

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in the NFL. But I just
wish that by the time football faded out,

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those that want to jump to college
basketball had more familiarity with it.

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And I guess I'm just desperate for
people to love college basketball as much as

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I love it, and that's just
never going to happen, so I should

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just get over it. But anyways, for those who missed it, the

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first Pat Kelsey Mark Pope matchup Saturday, December fourteenth. All right, it's

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coffee and company. We are feeled
by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven to

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ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with
us here on a hot, hot Tuesday

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afternoon. I'm looking forward to going
home and playing with my kids outside because

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you know, it's fun. We
got to Moose the new basketball goal the

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driveway and he's you know, he's
he's getting shots up. We're having fun.

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It's like the first time I've ever
actually had a goal for him that's

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his size, that you know,
like I can rebound for him and pass

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it to him and shoot it and
it's you know, it's it's wholesome for

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me as a dad. My daughter
loves going on walks with her stroller and

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her baby doll, or maybe she
rides her bike and I walk with her,

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and it's fun. And it's things
that I know I will miss badly

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when they get older. But today's
one of those days where I'm like,

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all right, honey, I'm gonna
have to let my wife know when I

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get done with the kids outside straight
to the shower, like I gotta.

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I got a hose down before I
let you near me, because I'm gonna

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be sweaty and ready, if you
know what I'm saying. So I hate

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the heat, and I got a
lot of pushback. I started the show

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but by mentioning how soft and weak
I am as a man because I cannot

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handle heat. I mean, it's
not gonna kill me. I'll get over

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it, but I become I mean, can I say it, John,

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I kind of become a little bitch
in the heat. We all have our

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things that make us a little bitch
sometimes. I guess I don't know,

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you know, is there something I
can do like toughing me up with that?

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I mean, I think some would
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We had somebody earlier on the text
and said, look, I think a

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lot of people do the same way. But if you work outside and you

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you know, you just eventually you
don't like it, but you just get

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used to it towards I know you
don't cut your own grass anymore. But

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that way, thanks thanks also for
making me feel less like less of a

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man, which, by the way, speaking of that, that is the

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one thing that like I've never would
have never claimed to be like a manly,

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macho guy, but having another man
cut my grass is convenient. Uh.

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I'll give him a shout out.
His name's Jimmy Funyak. He does

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a great job. He's got his
own lawn service. I grew up around

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him. He's a little younger than
me. His mother was my kindergarten teacher.

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But you know, he does a
great job, so if I did,

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it wouldn't look as good like it's. It's not something I struggle with,

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but I don't know why, as
someone who's always hated cutting the grass

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and don't like doing yard work,
there's just something that really hits me deep,

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like you're not a man if you're
not cutting your own lawn, which

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I'm sure plenty of people don't cut
their own lawn. But any way,

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back to the heat, I don't
want to be such a you know,

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I guess I'm a diva, you
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nature, But like when it comes
to being hot outside, I just get

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uncomfortable, irritable, and I just
look around at times and think, like

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what are we doing? We could
be indoors where there's air conditioning, Like

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what's going on here? Like who
is choosing to be outside in this in

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the like we're all you know,
it's like it's bowl of soup out here,

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Like it's thick and humid, and
I just I can't stand it.

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But everybody's different, right, Some
people hate cold weather and would want to

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be outside the entire day if it's
one hundred degrees and it's just you know,

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that's not me. Better watch out. There'll be people lining up outside

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of the studio, just like back
during the Kenny Pin era, waiting to

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call you a whiny bitch again.
Yeah, So, what remind me of

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how that all came about? I
feel like it had something to do with

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people getting on you, on somebody
on the text line or Twitter. Wasn't

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the caller. Was it because you'd
have probably dumped them. No, it

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was somebody was somebody angry at you
for your take on Kenny Payne, and

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you were coming back at him with
something. I don't remember what it was

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exactly, but they were calling you
a whiny bitch. Yeah. And later

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that day that we left, it
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it like this, right outside of
our studios here at four Street Live.

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I think there was a concert across
the hall at the PBR. And the

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timing of when we left, like
everybody, it was a huge line by

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four Street and John made it great. It was one of John's best lines

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ever. Like it was, this
is a huge line of But what I'm

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missing in the story is there was
some type of conversation going on that in

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regards to people coming to tell me
that like showing up the Yeah, like

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if you want to come here and
show me I'm a whiny bitch or something

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like that. Yeah, And then
there was that lot of people. Yeah.

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So man, the the shows during
like the the muck of the Kenny

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Payne era, like that was something. I'm so glad that's over, I

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really am. I don't regret any
part of it on my end, meaning

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like you know, saying what I
think and feel. And I've had so

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many people tell me I really,
I really liked how you were honest and

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you didn't care about what people thought, and I'm like, well, I

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mean how like that to me was
one of those things that was maddening because

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what would really get me worked up
is when people would act like what I

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was sharing was really opinion based.
I mean, like, it's not an

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opinion, like look how bad?
Like results matter? This is a disaster,

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and I think because some people would
still try to live in fairy tale

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land like it wasn't as bad.
And then I was going out of my

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way to pick on a guy who
won four games in his first year and

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eight games in his second, lost
to more Division two teams, then he

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beat teams on the road in his
career, Like you know, that would

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really get me worked up because I
would just think, like, what do

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we do? Like this is not
an opinion, this is fact. Kenny

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Payne is an awful coach. The
results tell you that. Everything tells you

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that. And I do appreciate those
that you know, probably didn't find it

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to be good radio or entertainment,
but they at least, you know,

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could could I guess, have some
respect for the fact that even if people

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didn't agree and I made people mad
at times, like I at least just

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said what I wanted to say.
But there's also those that were really nasty

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and mean about it. Some just
you know, telling me I'm an idiot

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and then I'm wrong and then I'm
negative or I'm a whiney bitch, and

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then others that would be personal,
like you know, say mean awful things,

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like just because I told them that, you know, Kenny Payne sucks

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as a coach. And some of
those people have now, like you know,

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gotten around or responding about anything I
posted about Pat Kelsey, and I

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knew that was going to happen,
like that happened with Sadderfield whenever I was

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pretty adamant that, you know,
not that he needed to be fired,

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but like the guy wasn't good enough
to be our coach here, So it's

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just part of it. I learned
a lot throughout both of those tenures because

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I knew that one you're never gonna
like not everyone is gonna always agree with

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you, and you wouldn'tant that wouldn't
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anyway, But even though you feel
justified in your opinion, or if you

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just flat out no, you're right. Like again, I knew that Kenny

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Payne was not didn't need to be
the coach here any longer than he was.

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So some people just don't want to
hear that. And when you got

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to show, that's three hours every
day, like it's gonna be discussed,

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it's gonna be said, and sometimes
it's gonna sound repetitive, and it's not

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because you're just beating the dead horse. It's because that's all that really can

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be said when you're in that type
of situation. So I think I developed

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a little bit thicker skin than I
used to have. But I don't know

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the fact that I remember like these
troll Twitter accounts that you know are anonymous,

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like go Cards, Underscore sixty nine, or like if they said something

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like real mean like personal, like
I remember, like I remember that,

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and I probably shouldn't, but I'm
human and you're more likely. I feel

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like it's human nature. Some probably
are better at dealing with this than others,

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But I do feel like it's human
nature in what we do, and

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maybe not even radio, but like
if you have, you know, if

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you're out there doing something rather be
radio television, I don't know, being

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a musician, if you're putting yourself
out there and it could just be for

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a hobby, could be your career. If you have ten people that give

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you feedback and seven of them are
like, wow, you're great, two

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of them are like, well,
pretty good, and then one is really

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nasty, I just feel like more
often not, it's human nature to really

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remember the person who hurt your feelings
rather than made you happy, Like it

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maybe not hurt your feelings, but
just you know, said something mean.

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But maybe that's just what I choose
to believe to try to make myself feel

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like you know, now, I
believe it. I haven't experienced a lot

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of it, or really any of
it, if I'm being honest. But

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it's one of those things I don't
think. And maybe it comes with age

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and not that you're old, but
you are nearly ten years older than I

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am. But I feel like I
wouldn't handle it very well. Yeah,

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I mean, I don't know if
I do handle it well. But you've

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gotten a chance to see, you
know, like you can tell you you

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see my body language, my facial
expressions. Yeah, we talk between breaks.

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So, like you, I think
at times when it wasn't appearing to

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be anything on the show that like
stood out to me, you could tell,

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like if certain things got me worked
up, you know what I mean.

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And I remember specifically, I don't
remember when this caller and this wasn't

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a personal attack, but it was
it was the guy who called and he

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was upset that you weren't just reading
the stats or yeah, scored however points

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during the game. You know what
really sucked about that is that was a

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caller who was regular, who showed
up to a couple of remotes, who

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was always fair, who said when
he called the show some of the same

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things that I would say, but
he you know, didn't want to hear

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it anymore. And it was just
that, you know, Kenny Payne needed

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to go. It wasn't like I
said it every second, but I do

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remember going back and forth there,
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probably think I probably would say,
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up. You should have been more
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like I'm not just gonna let people
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incorrect things about what I said,
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you know, say something that's wrong. Like you know, I'd rather have

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a conversation with somebody that's gonna call
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up, because they actually called the
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yeah, I mean, I'm glad
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You and I've never worked together when
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jumped right into anything other than trash, you said, yeah. And by

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the way, when you January of
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right then when we knew like it
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man, this ain't going I was. I was doing postgame shows with

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yeah, prior to joining the afternoon. That's true. That's true. I

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forgot about that, all right.
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out with us. So I did
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of the quotes, but yesterday,
I don't know when they spoke. Imagine

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it was yesterday, but Erkrawf put
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big change coming to college athletics when
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that schools are not going to be
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which I think most that want to
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to do that. We shared some
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you know, he has no problem
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Lull didn't have twenty millions sitting around, so that you know, I don't

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want to put words in Josh's mouth, but that's a clear insinuation that like,

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yeah, like everybody else, they're
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come up with extra money to do
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I don't want to say sports,
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happen. I don't want to act
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but like that will happen elsewhere,
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But there's all kinds of different things
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and there. But there's gonna be
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cuts that could get you to twenty
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things that Joshua talked about with WDRB
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the situation with the ACC. Everybody's
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deal is locked in, and I
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get out, we know by now
now the fight has shifted to where all

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these grand of rights contracts that are
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that's made up, but it's true. Nobody that's in the ACC readily has

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a copy of the grant of rights
seriously, like you have to go and

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request to view it in person,
which again I thought, there's no way

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that's true. It is, So
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want to make it public, which
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that, Like I don't know if
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that like the contract should be voided
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either way, the ACC, the
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actually what's put it in this tough
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together. Right, They're not going
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Now there's new ways you can make
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added. But you know, as
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that's only going to get bigger between
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Ten. That's gonna be really tough
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So the fact that nobody can leave
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here because they know they're gonna get
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but they're gonna, they're gonna they're
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money than schools in the Big Ten
in the SEC. Some schools probably won't

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care because they'll realize, yeah,
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do. But then again, the
scenario that I pointed out that others have

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pointed out too. It's not just
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Florida State in Miami. You know
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know everybody would if they could,
but they're stuck. Well, in five

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years they'll be a new Big twelve
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is kind of rebranding. They lost
Texas Oklahoma. They did a pretty good

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job of going out and adding schools, and they've got a good TV deal.

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They took the deal that the PAC
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about, and that ended their conference. So it's not crazy that in five

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years, if the AC still stuck
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they're still locked into twenty thirty six
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when it comes to TV revenue,
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they're a baby when it comes to
like history within college football specifically compared

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to Florida State in Miami. If
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that Central Florida and the Big twelve
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just unacceptable for them and that could
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think anybody's going to be happy,
especially those that realize they could be making

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more money. But what are you
gonna do about it? So Louisville is

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not Florida State, Louisville is not
Clemson, They're not North Carolina, meaning

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they're not going to be as attractive. If everybody got to leave and the

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pact of I'm sorry the big ten
in the SEC expanded, Louisville could find

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a spot in one of those.
Maybe, But I've always felt like,

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when it comes to the hierarchy of
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two leagues poaching the ACC, if
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where they'd fall. Maybe they'd be
one of the top five most pursued,

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maybe they'd be closer to seven eight. I really don't know, and we

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may never need to know, because
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the league's stuck together. But I've
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I can't relate. That's a better
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to the conference affiliation love because Louisville
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my life as a fan. I
just have never really, I mean,

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I've cared because I realized how important
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not you know, like that's a
joke. But as much as I realize

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how important it is for your league
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Louisville is in the ACC or the
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long as they are still able to
compete with the top tier programs and be,

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you know, along for the ride, have a seat at the table,

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as they say. But here's what
Joshurea I had to say about the

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ACC quote, I'm bullish on the
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don't you have to be? And
yeah, maybe this is born out

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of the out of necessity a little
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naive. I think the ACC is
in a really strong position. And I

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just continually say, if Louisville can
continue to be in the third best conference

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in the country, we're in a
really good spot. That's I don't think

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that's unfair. I mean, nobody
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if you're in third, like,
if you're in the third spot, then

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you know you're not the Big ten, and let's be real, you are

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like money aside, the ACC is
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in the Big ten. We know
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at times we fans lose sight of
where the ACC really is. There's a

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lot of athletic departments that would pay, I mean handsomely to be in the

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ACC. As I always as I
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it. We live in a pretty
good neighborhood. And I think sometimes we

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all get used to driving into our
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another neighborhood and that isn't as nice, and we realize we live in a

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really good, nice neighborhood. And
that's what I don't want us, our

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fans, other members of the ACC
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we continue to win more championships than
any other conference. Academically we continue to

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be second to none. And you
can say those things don't matter, they

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do matter. So I have no
issue with anything Josh said, And I

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think that's a very good way to
look at it and speak on it from

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the position that Louisville and the ACC
is in. But it all comes down

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to Clemson in Florida State if they
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the league is not third. It's
not You cannot replace Clemson in Florida

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State with anybody that's going to give
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and the relevance that those two give
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can say all that, but I
would hope that if you start to get

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a feel for them getting away out
you you know Josh, you know he

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can do what he wants. It's
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more about it than I do.
But I feel like if you if the

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tide started to turn and it felt
like, Okay, they may find a

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way out of this, they're gonna
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to see if the Big twelve will
take you, because look better scenario would

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be the sec of the Big ten. But I just don't think that's realistic

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unless there's a mass expansion. But
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ACC when the big dogs leave,
because then you are. I mean that

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neighborhood's not what it once was.
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a weird reason, I just I
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in the Big twelve a little bit. I don't know. I agree with

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you, though, I mean,
West Virginia's in the Big twelve if I

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feel like their old rival, yes, Cincinnati is now too. I mean,

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I just for me, I think
you can say that like the ACC

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thank you for the lifeline, because
who knows what Louisville Athletics would have looked

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like if they not had been able
to get a seat at the table of

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the power five. You know,
you probably don't have Lamar Jackson, right,

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I mean, who knows, who
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not been the case. So again, thank you ACC, but I have

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no rom and saying like I've kind
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way. I know I sound like, you know, greedy or whatever,

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because I'm happy that they're in the
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the ACC loses their two top dogs, I would hope that herd can can

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find a new landing spot because I
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be stuck with the leftovers. But
you know, maybe that never happens,

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because again, the one thing that's
keeping this league together is they're all stuck

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together, at least for now,
and it doesn't Again, I feel like

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by now, if they could have
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rights, it would have happened.
Quick break, don't go anywhere, keep

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it locked right here. On Sports
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appreciate it, after saying in the
first segment that I'm you know, to

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quote the Sawyer Brown song I ain't
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That's led to John Now playing three
saw Your Brown songs today, which

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it's a good day on the show. If that's the case, Love me

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some saw Your Brown Any any nineties
country is usually gonna fly with me.

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So thank you, John. So
let's talk Coleman Hawkins, Trevon Brazil,

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who is kind of a forgotten name
going into last year, actually two years

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ago, a lot of hype was
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believe shortly after the Maui invitation when
Louisville played them and missed the rest of

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that season, and then came back
last year. And I don't know if

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he was shaking off for US,
but Arkansas was a mess last year and

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him not, you know, being
very good last year was a big part

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of that. So he hit the
portal still viewed to have NBA upside and

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I'm not even sure what schools were
interested in, what his recruitment was,

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where it was leading, but it
was just announced in the last hour or

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so. But he's actually going to
stay at Arkansas and play for John Caliperi

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there, so that sounds like it
is eliminated at Arkansas from contention here for

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Coleman Hawkins. Also, Kansas State
an another school that I believe has been

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viewed as a real, real potential
landing spot for Coleman Hawkins. The Illinois

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transfer they've landed up go On Yinsu, the former Kentucky big just committed to

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Jerome Tang within the last hour,
and I don't think those two guys are

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in any way the same type of
player. But then again, we are

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talking about, you know, six
eleven seven foot big, so even if

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you play differently, you're still essentially
at the same position. Although Hawkins can

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can certainly play four, but if
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he can do that too. So
sounds like there's more momentum for Louisville

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to I guess emerge as the most
likely landing spot here. And it's not

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been reported just yet, but I
do know Trulli Donovan and I think even

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Jody Dimmling on his website has has
mentioned that a visit is in the works,

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meeting they're trying to I don't know
if it's confirmed, if he's got

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his flight book just yet, but
it sounds like a visit from Coleman Hawkins

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to Louisville could happen, and again, this would be monumental. I'm starting

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to believe as an outsider. I
hate to say it as if, like

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if they don't because as big as
this would be to land someone this talented

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from the portal, you know,
it's not like if they don't get him,

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they can't be good. But I
think you already have a lot of

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good pieces that fans can legitimately be
excited about and expect to be a tournament

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team. Now, if you don't
get there doesn't mean we've got a panic

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and act like it was a failure. But I think you can look at

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what you have now and think this
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you're justified and thinking that now.
Again, only time will tell, but

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you throw in Colemanhawkins, I feel
like it turns into not only an expectation

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of the tournament where you feel like
you could be a justify yourself being a

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top twenty, top fifteen caliber team. Now, maybe I'm getting a little

408
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:42.200
ahead of myself, but from a
personnel standpoint, I mean I don't think

409
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:48.759
that's Homer Louisville thought. I don't
think that's Cardboy, you know, getting

410
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:49.759
the best of me here. I
think that's legit. I mean, just

411
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:53.079
think about this. I mean,
if we were to play out that way

412
00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.759
and you know, you end up
landing Coleman Hawkins and how I am already

413
00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:02.519
getting ahead of myself. I mean
again, think about the different options you

414
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:07.680
would have when it comes to personnel. I mean, Chucky Hepburn, Terrence

415
00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:12.400
Edwards, Junior, Javon Hadley,
Coleman, Hawkins, Case and Pryor.

416
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.839
That that could be your starting five. I mean doesn't have to be,

417
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.559
because I think there's some guys on
the bench there that would be worthy of

418
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:23.839
a starting spot. Corn Johnson from
Washington, Rain Smith, lightside shooter,

419
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.160
I mean, Cater Treure. I
mean, you guys know, I think

420
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.920
the world of him. I think
he's gonna be hard to keep off the

421
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:36.559
floor. Noah Waterman, a double
digit guy last year, shot forty percent

422
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:40.279
from three at BYU in the Big
twelve throw in. You know, James

423
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.240
Scott, who they still believe has
a lot of upside. I mean,

424
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.920
this team could be really good,
and they could be good without Coleman Hawkins.

425
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:51.119
But that's a that's a final piece
that really does just change I mean,

426
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:52.880
against there's one guy, and it's
not like he would be a preseason

427
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:57.119
National Player of the Year, but
it gives you a little bit more punch,

428
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.319
and I hope it happens. We'll
see again. I'm not reporting that

429
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:06.079
he's going to visit, but it
sounds like a visit is in the works,

430
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.440
which means I guess they're trying to
get it figured out. And there

431
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.680
is an outlet out there called Sleepers
Media. They cover college basketball. They

432
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:17.240
do a pretty good job, a
couple of young guys who have some affiliation

433
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.480
I think with the field of sixty
eight guys. But they put together something

434
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:23.640
earlier on one of their live streams
about Colemanhawkins, and they reported that Louisville

435
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:29.160
apparently has two million dollars available to
pay him, which, look, if

436
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.839
they got it and that's what it
takes and they can afford it, you

437
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.240
know whatever. But again, I
just have a hard time believe in some

438
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.519
of these numbers that are thrown out
there when it comes to an il.

439
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:44.599
But hey, maybe I'm just a
hater, but that's a lot of money

440
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:48.960
two million dollars. All right,
when it comes to a lot of money,

441
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.079
moving that can also cost a lot
of money, not just because you

442
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.799
know you're making probably one of the
biggest, if not the most expensive purchases

443
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.160
of your life, buying a home, getting a mortgage, or if you're

444
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.640
big ball and maybe you're just buying
a house with cash. But either way,

445
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:06.079
it's a big expense. And it's
not just the cost of the home.

446
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.279
It's there's things along the way that
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447
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448
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449
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450
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451
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452
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454
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455
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456
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:48.720
to give film Moffitt A call at
five oh two five nine nine twenty eight

457
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hundred. That's his cell. He'd
be happy to hear from you, and

458
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he'd probably look forward to helping you
throughout this process because that's what he does,

459
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That's what Elin and Eedland does.
They're passionate. So again Eland dot

460
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Com the website and the number I
would call again, there's two. You

461
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can get the office number at their
website, but I would call Phil at

462
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.319
five two, five nine twenty eight
hundred. All right, So for those

463
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.759
just now joining us, we did
play some sound earlier today. Scotty Scheffler,

464
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.440
he talked not for the first time
since he was arrested here in Louisville,

465
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.200
but the first event since his appearance
in the PGA Championship. That,

466
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:19.839
of course, when you think of
Scotty Scheffler and you think of the PGA

467
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.799
Championship, you think of a story
that still doesn't even seem real. The

468
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.480
number one golfer in the world,
on his way to Day two of the

469
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:33.799
PGA Championship at Valhalla, arrested crazy, but it happened, and he seems

470
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.319
to have handled this as good as
anybody possibly could in his situation, right,

471
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.880
I mean, I didn't assume that
he was lying about anything, but

472
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:47.440
you know, knowing that everything he
told us appeared to be true because of

473
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:53.079
the proof that we have with the
video and hearing his conversation with the officer,

474
00:29:53.200 --> 00:30:00.039
Like to me, this is a
guy who, again his status a

475
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.000
pro golfer, who again, by
the way, is one of the world's

476
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.920
best. I just don't think you'll
find many people in that space, meaning

477
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:17.279
elite, celebrity, superstar athlete,
that would have been as professional and understanding

478
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.880
and respectful. I mean, average
joes who are good people. I don't

479
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.559
think would have handled it as well
as he did, which again props to

480
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:32.680
him. But he talked earlier today
and he did not say Louisville correctly,

481
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.319
which, look, I don't blame
him. If it was an intentional thing,

482
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:38.400
we probably deserve it, I mean, not us specifically, but you

483
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.079
know, I can imagine if his
view of Louisville from here on out is

484
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.440
not a good one, because again
it's the first and probably the only time

485
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:52.279
he'll ever be arrested. But him
not knowing how to say the name Louisville

486
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:55.839
just is still a head scratcher for
me. I did not want to have

487
00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:00.079
to pursue legal action against Louisville because
at the end of the day that the

488
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.119
people of Louisville are then gonna have
to pay for the mistakes of their police

489
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.839
department. That just doesn't seem right. So, I mean, I mean,

490
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.599
when people say Louisville or Louisville instead
of you know, how we say

491
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.119
it Louisville, it never really it
doesn't really bother me. And I don't

492
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.160
even like have I never even feel
the need to like correct anybody, just

493
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.640
because you know, that's just not
my personality to do that. But uh,

494
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.279
I think, after hearing it a
second time giving it some more thought,

495
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.440
I don't think there's a scenario where
he did that to try to like,

496
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:36.880
you know, slight the city by
mispronouncing it, because what I mean,

497
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:38.359
he's done everything. I mean,
he's I mean, he literally the

498
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.960
clip I played for you is him
talking about how he didn't want to file

499
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.279
a lawsuit because he didn't want he
didn't want the citizens of Louisville, as

500
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.039
he said, to have to pay
for it. So I'm going to go

501
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:49.559
with a theory that I saw put
out there earlier today I believe might have

502
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.680
been airic Crawford who said that there
is actually Louisville, Texas, but it's

503
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.440
spelled Louisville, not like we spell
Louisville. So maybe that just because Scotty

504
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.920
grew up in the Dallas area.
So maybe that's why he. I buy

505
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.359
that too, Yeah, maybe that's
what it is. Now, if it

506
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.559
was somebody who throughout has been pretty
bitter about it, which would be understandable,

507
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:09.880
then I would think, yeah,
maybe he's just trying to you know,

508
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.079
or if he just kept saying Lewisville, like in the same I always

509
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:15.319
said it twice, but if he
said it maybe three or four times,

510
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.160
that'd be a little suspect. I
think, yeah, I'm with you,

511
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.039
all right. So we did also
lead the show today, believe it or

512
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.680
not. Podcasts will be evidence if
you don't believe us. We love the

513
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.880
show with some WNBA stuff, some
hot takes, and it's really just revisiting

514
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:35.039
the topic that is I think dominated
the you know, the platforms, radio,

515
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.400
television, podcast, live streams when
it comes to sports. The Caitlin

516
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.519
Clark bullying if you want to call
it that, or just the fact that

517
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.880
she's you know, they're they're out
there trying to beat the hell out of

518
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:47.359
her. Like that is that has
dominated the news cycle in the conversation in

519
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.160
the sports world, like the WNBA
never has. And I don't believe that

520
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.960
it was all strategic, But either
way, this is good. I don't

521
00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:00.240
know if it's a good look,
but the WNBA is is is. I

522
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.720
mean, it's a gift, like
the league is a gift from the NBA.

523
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:07.799
The NBA funds it. It doesn't
make any money, it loses a

524
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.960
ton of money, and that's I
mean, that's just the reality of the

525
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.160
situation. That's not an insult to
anybody. That's just the facts. So

526
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.680
it doesn't give much attention ever,
And now it's got a lot of attention,

527
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.519
more than it probably ever has.
And even if it's not a good

528
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.200
look, it's still good for them
to have ratings the way they are,

529
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:28.359
Like there'll be people willing to tune
in just because they want to see if

530
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.559
Kaitlyn Clark gets attacked again. Like
that sounds crazy, but it's the truth.

531
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:37.160
So I've enjoyed hearing different perspectives on
this. I thought Michael Wilbon of

532
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:43.799
Pardon the Interruption had a really good
take that I heard yesterday that made its

533
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:47.119
rounds on Twitter. I actually really
enjoyed listening to Jim Rome talk about it

534
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:52.079
both yesterday and today on his show. And I don't have any added thoughts

535
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.119
from what we talked about yesterday,
but after hearing Kaitlyn Clark yesterday kind of

536
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:59.400
respond to it and do her first
media availability because she was suspended and I

537
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.440
suspended fine one thousand dollars because she
wouldn't come out and talk to the media

538
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:06.920
after she applauded her teammate for taking
a cheap shot at Kaitlyn Clark and then

539
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:12.000
took one of her own, like
you know, and I just think somebody

540
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.239
needs to like tell her you are
making this worse. I don't think she's

541
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.159
a terrible person. I don't know
her, but she's got to figure out

542
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.840
who she is, because here I
can tell you what she is right now.

543
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:29.800
She's jealous, and it's very evident
in every way that she's extremely jealous

544
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:37.880
of Caitlyn Clark. And her comments
here that I'll let you guys hear,

545
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.320
I mean, I think that that's
I mean to me, that's the evidence

546
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:44.920
if I can find it. Here
we go. This is her talking yesterday

547
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:49.119
to the media again for the first
time since the whole situation happened over the

548
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.119
weekend, and she's claiming that,
you know, it's not just one person,

549
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.960
meaning Kaitlyn Clark, that has led
to the you know, this amount

550
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:05.760
of attention and viewership on the WNBA
if it'll play here we go championship game.

551
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.840
And I've been dealing with this for
two years now and understanding like,

552
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:13.199
yeah, negative things have probably been
said about me, but honestly, I'll

553
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.000
take that because look where women's basketball
is. People are talking about women's basketball.

554
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.320
You never would think that me.
We talk about women's basketball. People

555
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:21.800
are pulling up to games, We
got celebrities coming to games, sold aut

556
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.880
arenas like just because of one single
game, and just looking at that,

557
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.360
like, I'll take that role.
I'll take the bad guy role, and

558
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.800
I'll continue to take that on and
be that for my teammates. And if

559
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:32.559
I want to be that, and
I know I'll go down to history.

560
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.320
I'll look back in twenty years and
be like, yeah, the reason why

561
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.440
we're watching women's basketball is not just
because of one person. It's because of

562
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:43.559
me too, And I want you
to realize that. So jealousy is a

563
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:50.480
really is a really ugly emotion and
that's what this is all rooted from.

564
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.039
I mean, you could hear the
insecurity in her voice in what she said

565
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:58.360
about it's not just her, it's
me too, where she really looks bad

566
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.719
in my opinion, and kind of
feel for not not as if like she

567
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:04.519
hasn't brought all this on herself.
But she doesn't know what she wants to

568
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.280
be. Does she want to be
a victim that claims that she gets you

569
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.639
know that she's the villain only because
everybody loves Kaitlyn Clark and they don't like

570
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.519
her because they love Kaitlyn Clark.
Does she want to be the victim?

571
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:15.440
Or does she want to truly be
the villain? Which one is it?

572
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.039
You can't be both. You don't
embrace the villain role. You cry and

573
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.039
act as if you are, you
know, being picked on at times like

574
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.920
which one is it? You cannot
do both? And she's she's trying to

575
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.079
do both. And again like the
way she behaved in that National Championship game,

576
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:35.559
like people can say what they want
about Kaitlyn Clark getting fiery and you

577
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.480
know, emotional, because I don't
even know I think Kaitlyn Clark's antics at

578
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:39.719
times, although they're not like,
you know, totally dirty, but like

579
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:43.119
you know, she's fiery as a
player. She has a lot of emotion

580
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:47.360
when she plays. But like that
was not what Angel Reese did when she

581
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:51.519
walked up to her and taunted her
like with the ring finger, like to

582
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:53.360
her face. Like that wasn't the
same thing at all. Like if you

583
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:57.320
took a lot of heat and became
a villain and people didn't like you because

584
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:02.400
of that, that is on you
and nobody else. All right more WNBA

585
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:08.280
takes on the other side at least
once per hour. I have mentioned how

586
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:12.920
hot it is outside today, which
it was and maybe it still is.

587
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:15.400
But because we are truly in caves
here, John, did you know that

588
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.320
it's been like pouring outside for an
hour it's rain coming. I didn't know

589
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:25.719
when I'm looking here at the woky
traffic cam and around Arthur Street on sixty

590
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:30.360
five there was like, you know, people going real slow because of flooding,

591
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:31.639
like because of you know, high
planning. Yeah, I mean,

592
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:36.000
like so see, that's why I
was so muggy though that rain was that

593
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.960
it has to be it. I
mean, it was just it's just gross

594
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:43.079
out there. Man. So maybe
and you know, while it's raining.

595
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.559
I'm sure it's not hot, but
you know, the post rain humidity is

596
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.039
probably going to hit us right in
the face when we walk outside. I

597
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.920
mean, it doesn't matter. It
has nothing to do with with with you

598
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.559
know, this job being on the
radio, you and I together. But

599
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.239
it is weird how like you know, I when I walk in here,

600
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:02.480
usually it's about four hours different,
you know, four hours later. And

601
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:07.599
you know it's especially weird in the
winter time, whenever it goes from light

602
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.039
to dark. Yeah, you get
sad when that happens, don't you.

603
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.480
I don't get sad like people get
like that seasonal depression. That's not me.

604
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.079
Yeah, but some people are,
like you, devastated. It's like

605
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.519
if they get off work and it's
already dark, it's like they never have

606
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.280
any It's like, you know,
it's just miserable. Yeah. So all

607
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:23.719
right, we're out of time.
You guys, enjoy your Tuesday evening.

608
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.239
We're back at it tomorrow right here
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