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It's either the sixth or seventh year of me doing Monday and Tuesday nights
at least from nine to midnight here on the Nation station. And I am
proud and humble to be welcomed back again. And I hope you enjoy what
we've got planned for you tonight. To give you a little hints our first
guests tonight was the first guest on my very first nightcap. Here's a clue
done out there with the bases loaded, the outfield deeping around toward right of
the one oh. On the way to the play, swan On Bright felt,
yes, this one belongs to the Reds. How many times in his
long, illustrious career did he say that? Marty Brennaman, the Hall of
Famer, joins us in just moments as we kick off the nightcap. Also,
Jay Armstrong, my friends stand up comedian, the vape King of Northern
Kentucky, will be here. Dave had he with an I report and the
latest and the greatest, and what you need to look out for online and
in social media and what the chat GBT robots have in store for you.
If you're not careful watch out. Karen Cataline, a fan favorite and a
favorite of mine, will join us too, Opine, and we haven't to
have a chance to chat for a while, so I'm looking forward to that.
The Furball, Andy Furman. And also in just a little while from
the state of Kentucky, the Commonwealth, wonderful lady with a finger on the
pulse as the gubernatorial election is right around the corner in Kentucky and her thoughts
on the legislature and what's ahead and the election coming up. Savannah Maddox on
the slate for tonight's Nightcap, we'll get underway with the Hall of Famer Marty
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first guest on this nightcap. It was my very first guest on my very
first night cap on seven hundred w l w LO those many years ago,
and he is back with us tonight. He's been graciously enough to agree to
give me a few minutes, give us a few minutes. Marty brennaman Baseball
Hall of Famer from the Ford See Frick Wing of the Baseball Hall of Fame
and your former voice of the Rids, and now a world traveler, taking
more road trips than he did when he was being paid for. I think,
Marty, how are you? I'm good, Gary Japp, Nice to
be with you, and uh yeah, I would say, maybe not quite
as much traveling as I used to do, but the places I go in
a general sort of way are much more appealing than where I was traveling during
baseball. Oh, you're telling me now, now, where's your next trip?
If you can divulge this, you're getting ready to go on a next
week. We're gonna sail out of Boston up the New England coast and into
Nova Scotia on a week long cruise. Now, that is one that is
one good time of the year. That is one destination that I would I
would leave the country for. I've always been kind of interested in the Maritimes
and you know those northern Canadian provinces out on the ocean, like Nova Scotia.
So yeah, I could get along with that. But no, that's
that's better than a trip to Old Candlestick, Parker, Chevez, Ravine or
any of those other Burgh Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Yeah,
it's a little bit better than that. So what was what was the one
redeeming If you could pick one redeeming thing about Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, what would
it have been one thing? Oh boy, that's a great question. You
know what. I'm at a lost for words. I can't remember one redeeming
feature that immediately comes to mind about Pittsburgh. The ballpark. Well, the
ballpark would be that's one of the best ballparks in Major League Baseball. The
locale of it across the river looking in onto the Pittsburgh skyline. That that's
one of the better ballparks in baseball. They did a great job building that
park, and oftentimes location is everything, and their location is spectacular because you're
looking at the skyline of Pittsburgh for nightball games, which is pretty impressive.
Now, did you fly into Pittsburgh out of here or did you ever drive
the drive to do a game in Pittsburgh or a series? I think I
think I drove once or twice, whatever the cause was. I know I
drove at least once into Pittsburgh when we played there, and that was years
ago. And the drive is, uh, you know, the boy is
a drive, boring drive from here to Columbus and then over and the drive
is nothing to write home about. But most of the time we would fly
in there without the question. The Pennsylvania Interstate system, what there is of
it, is awful with my limited exposure to driving in the state of Pennsylvania.
So I guess now you're you're doing all these things he said you can't
let the grass grow under your feet. Is that is that Amanda's doing or
you are doing? I know you want to go to a lot of these
places, but how much is she prodding you to always be on the road
traveling? This is what I want to know. Well, as I said
one time during a REDS broadcast years ago that in a previous life Amanda had
been the driving an eighteen wheel or over the road as a vocation. And
amazingly, there were people who took me seriously. They thought I was being
serious. But if there's such a thing as you know, as a previous
life, it would not surprise me if I had access to information that would
lead me to believe without any question that that's what her occupation was. She
loves to travel, she loves to plan travel. She's the one that plans
all these trips that we take, and she'll sit for hours with her computer
in front of her plotting, you know, where are we going to fly
to? In fact, we're planning a trip now right now into into Switzerland
and Germany next July. And she's planning now because we're going to add to
the trip. The trip is into Switzerland, but we're going to add a
week on to that to go to Switzerland Germany rather, because Amanda was born
on a military base in in Germany, and so we're going to go back
and see the house that her mom and dad lived, and her dad was
in the service at the time and she's making plans now to drive from Zurich
to to Munich and to Berlin and to Frankfurt, and she's in her element
when she's doing all this stuff. Well, there's nothing like going back to
the place where you were born, you your place of oregy. Yeah,
I like to say. You know, my wife and I took a trip
two years ago to Mount Pleasant, Iowa, of all places, and I
told her we were going to Iowa on our vacation. Said, Iowa,
really, And I said, yeah, we have relatives there, we had
a free place to stay. She wound up having one of the best vacations
of her life in Southeast Iowa. And I just I instantly felt at home,
even though I didn't live there longer than about two or three months,
and always had revives there folks there. But it was a great trip.
But again, that's very important going back to where you came from originally.
I think that's cool. Correct, Yeah, switch gears here a little bit.
Well, just one more question about traveling. Is part of your endorsement
deal, do you get to take lots of Laura's lean beef with you?
No, that would not travel well going to Europe as we have done.
Twice already this summer, and when once there last year, you would have
a hard time finding a cool or with the staying power that would allow us
to take Laura's lean beef with us across the pond and the places that we
traveled too. But that's a good thought. We'll investigate that down the road
and see if that's doable. Is a Manda the cook or are you the
cook? Marty? Oh, a man, there's a cook. My specialty
is grilling. I do a pretty good job of grilling meat on the grill,
and that's what I'm basically confined to. I love to do it,
but I'm the chief cook and my wife is the bottle washer at home.
But she makes She makes incredible liver and onions with gravy, and I've never
had anybody who did it as well as as Chris to two point zero.
So God bless her indeed every single day. Marty Branham and our guest on
the Nightcap here on seven d WLW. Let me ask you about the legalized
sports betting which is now everywhere. I mean, it's yes, ubiquitous across
the country, with more and more states now finally allowing it. How do
you think that has changed the game, if at all, because there's always
been betting, there's always been gambling on professional sports and com sports, and
now that it's out in the open, do you think this is better or
do you think it's just too much? Well, I think it's I think
the option of being in the open and not being in the open or legal
and illegal. I think it's always better to have something in the open.
And obviously all these companies that are are fueling the train, so to speak,
are spending multitudes of millions of dollars to promote their particular company and their
product and and such as that. But in terms of whether or not it's
changed the game as far as baseball is concerned, and I watched a lot
on TV this summer watching the Redge play, I don't. I don't see
it. I don't see any change in the game. I don't think it's
affected the way the game is being played. I think the players and the
game itself real that we can't allow this to affect the game. And then
let the betters, whoever they might be, and how heavily they are into
it, do what they have to do now that they can do it.
In front of God in the world. There may be those who disagree with
me in terms of whether it's impacted the way the game has played. And
when I say game, I include football and basketball and what little I know
of ice hockey and at all the rest of them. But I you know,
if you're going to legalize it, then legalize it. And that's exactly
what they've done. And even though they're what you said, nineteen states now
that have legalized it, I think it's just a matter of time before more
and more fallen into line, because I was just thinking about the comparison between
Ohio and Kentucky when Kentucky didn't have it, in Ohio did, and the
amount of money that probably the state government in Kentucky have come to realize how
it's negatively impacted their economy when you know their people are betting in Ohio and
taking that money out of what could be Kentucky money. Sure, and so
I think that's going to be the thing that really dictates down the road how
these states are going to ultimately vote whether or not to keep it the way
it is or to make it legal within the confines of their state. Well
baseball specifically, just with the history of of gambling and baseball, and of
course Pete Rose, and you look at characters like Denny McClain and all the
others who were involved in gambling while they were playing the game. We're managing
the game, and you think about the relationship that started with the Black Socks
series and that death penalty and Major League Baseball for gambling, and now the
NFL is having to come out with new rules and regulations for players, you
know, gambling on games and the like. But there's always been a chance
for gambling to influence the outcome of games, especially illegal gambling when it was,
you know, underneath the cover of darkness. So I don't know that
it's the optimum thing, but it is certainly better, as you mentioned,
to have it in the sunlight as opposed to in the back alleys, in
the back rooms, in the dark. As far as gambling, people are,
people are gonna gamble, people are gonna gamble regardless. Yeah, I
don't, I don't. I agree with you. I think that's the reason
why we are where we are now, with these companies spending millions of dollars
advertising on local television and radio and network TV, to the extent that they're
doing it because there always will be people gambling. But I think I think
as far and I can't answer for football and the rest of them, but
I think as far as baseball is concerned, I think that it's pretty much
hit home to players in our game that if they're ever caught doing what Pete
did, they stand a real good chance of being banned for life. And
I'm not conversing on what the particular rules are might be that would involve NFL
players or NBA players in basketball. I can remember years ago when Paul Horning
and Alex Carris were suspended I think for one season, ye because they bet
on NFL football games. This goes way back, but that was the extent
of it. They were allowed then to come back and play and be members
in good standing of the National Football League from what I saw, so I
don't know whether I'm sorry from what I saw in the NFL just this past
weekend they came down with a ruling and I think it's a two year suspension
if you're caught, you know, violating the regulations as it pertains to gambling
and the like. Real quick, Marty, I is it enough that this
Red's team, this young Red's team this year was fun to watch and exciting
to watch or will the fans demand playoffs next year? And should they?
I think it was fun to watch. I think they were a very exciting
young team to watch play baseball. The way they round the bases and I
think they led the league in stolen bases. They were aggressive, they had
great chemistry, they legitimately loved each other, and let's face it, they
were too young to realize what pressure was all about. Now they've played through
that, I think fans are going to be fans. I think fans are
going to expect two and twenty four to be better than two thousand and twenty
three, and better would be making the postseason. Nick Crawl and his baseball
people, I think have some work to do, because I don't think you
can stand pat with this club and expect this team well to and expect to
say, well, you know, they one year under their belt, so
they automatically are going to be better next year. There are a lot of
things that come into play that you have no way of forecasting. So I
think there are things they need to do to tweak this club and make it
a better club. But I definitely think that the fans are going to be
their expectations are going to be greater at going into twenty twenty four as a
result of what this team did this season. Well, you can't. I
don't think you can really deal away the important young cogs who the Reds you
know, obviously don't have to pay the kind of salary that say, they'd
have to pay a Joey Vado, for example, And I think it's important
for them to keep intact as many of those young players, those exciting young
players, as possible, don't you, Oh yeah, I don't. I
think there are certain in touchables among the young players. If I had to
categorize from my perspective, I'd say Matt McClain, Alie Dela Cruz, probably
Spencer Steer for my money, in not counting the pictures, but I think,
I think that I think that there are some of the young guys that
may not be here next year. The easy route, although the more expensive
route, would be to go out and sign a picture in the free agent
market, a veteran. My my feeling is a priority for this team.
Number one is to go out and sign or trade for a BOTA five veteran
picture. With a good track record, been around the block, knows what
it's all about, has good help, and also has been a great influence
on young players in the clubhouse, specifically young pitchers. I think they need
a veteran in that rotation. They don't need to open twenty twenty four five
youngsters. I just don't think that works if you're going to be serious about
making the postseason. In our last few seconds, Smarty Brennaman, just give
me top of your head, instant kind of word association answer. Joey Votto's
done, yes or no? For me, I'd say yeah, probably,
Okay, all right, Marty Brennaman, have a wonderful trip with Amanda to
Nova Scotia. That sounds wonderful, and continue to enjoy life. You definitely
deserve that opportunity now that you're Freda, Gary Jeff move about the room.
You're a good man. I appreciate the time and joy always being with you.
Pal. Thank you so much that Marty Brennaman on the first nightcap of
the season, and we'll continue in moments on seven joining us on the program.
Now here in our first hour is somebody that is You've been a great,
great guest in the past, and we were looking forward to the new
fall season. And I saw her over the weekend at receptions in Erlanger for
the Northern Kentucky's Right to Life fifty years celebration of Life, along with many
many other people there. But always a delight to have her at our disposal
for great information about the machinations and what's going on in the legislature in the
Commonwealth of Kentucky. Savannah Mattocks from the sixty first District, welcome back to
the Nightcap. Well, thank you day Josh. It's always a pleasure to
be on and it was the first time we got to meet in person,
even though we felt like we knew each other, you know from all of
our conversations that we've had over the telephone, but it was it was nice
to meet you, and my wife was really taken with you too as we
sat there and enjoyed an incredible presentation by Kristin Hawkins. I mean, it
is so important for people to understand the good work that you guys did in
the legislature with in regards to reserving and protecting life, especially the unborn in
Kentucky, and that fight is going on right now in the state of Ohio
via a ballot issue that it will be on the ballot in just a little
over a month from now, issue one, which basically would change the Ohio
Constitution and say, yeah, abortions on demand whenever you want, up until
and including the moment of birth. So which is pretty horrendous if you think
about it. It's horrendous even if you don't think about it. But just
your thoughts on the presentation on Sunday, what do you think? Yeah,
as a lawmaker, you know, I've always considered it my foremost responsibility,
you know, given that I believe that the natural right to life, it's
name ter protecting that, to stand up and speak for those who can't yet
speak for themselves. And I think that post Row, we have entered into
an era where it is not as politically expedient for politicians to try to run
on that issue or to garner support. So there's been a certain level of
compromise and I am concerned about that, and I think it's more important than
ever than we stand up and stand firm on principle on that issue. Well,
we have also now sports betting legal in the state of Kentucky, and
people are doing that. Where did you come down on that issue when that
was being debated and then voted on Savannah. Yeah, So, you know,
although I'm not someone who gambles myself, I don't think that it's the
appropriate role of government to tell people what they can do with the money that
they've earned. It's bad enough that we're breaking in so much taxpayer dollars against
citizens will I just didn't think it was the proper role of government to say
that you couldn't engage in that type of activity. Although I, like I
said, I don't choose the gable myself, don't think it's a good use
at my resources, but for other folks, you know, if we're talking
about protecting life, liberty, and property, I don't see that that fits
the bill. No, I would agree with you. Also, I know
that there are people that we know who were in vehement disagreement with us.
We're still friends, but that's the way it goes sometimes with these different Mariatta
issues. And so the other elephant in the room I've got to talk to
you about a little bit, if you will, is the upcoming gubernatorial election.
This is this is this is coming down. We're just a month away
November seventh, Andy Basher running for reelection, the incumbent against Daniel Cameron,
the Attorney General. And it seems to me like I just haven't heard a
whole lot about this, uh, this race at all. I get my
flyers in the mailbox, and those two absolutely no good for them wasting campaigns,
wasting money on flyers for me. I mean, obviously they don't know
where I am. They haven't been tracking me as much as I thought they
were. But I mean, it's a waste of money. I've already made
up my mind. I am not voting for a return of four years for
the boy dictator is what I called it. Many Bashir is strictly based on
the COVID lockdowns and the mandates and all of the restrictions of constitutional freedoms that
he thought he had the power to take away from the citizenry. So but
I think a lot of people have forgotten that now people have short term memory
loss, don't you think. Well, normally I would say that all eyes
are on the gubernatorial race, but you know, it seems as though it
has primarily been the political class that has been engaging in discussions and robust conversations
about this particular race, but you know, perhaps a little bit closer to
time, because you know, Kentucky is one of I believe only three states
that has that off year odd election, you know, being in twenty twenty
three versus you know, when the other races are taking place for Congress or
their presidential race so forth, so on our local races. But so I
think maybe a little bit closer to time, and you know, Daniel Cameron,
our Attorney General, has had some grounds to make up all along,
because it's difficult to run against an incumbent governor who you know, at one
point inexplicably, unbelievably was the fifth most popular governor in the nation. So
I think that, you know, ultimately, this has been a moment of
you know, coming together in unification for the political class side of the Republican
Party to say, we've got to get this job done. We've got to
make up ground in the polls. And I think that there's a lot going
on at the macro level with the Republican Party as well. We see what's
happening in Washington, DC here just a little bit of time, as far
as I'm aware, they're going to be taking a very significant vote with regard
to the motion of actes the chair. And you know, issues that we've
seen here in the Commonwealth as well. We have a growing supermajority that whenever
I first came in, there were only sixty one of us. Now there
are eighty of us. So you have a lot of Republicans, but you
have various permutations of folks that may see differently on issues. And you know,
I have always kind of been somewhat of a lightning rod because I consider
myself to be a constitutional conservative, and those are the folks I want to
work with. Those are the voices that I want to uplift. So it's
it's going to be interesting to see what we look like going into twenty twenty
four, not just here in the Commonwealth, but across the nation. So
with a supermajority, as you mentioned in both the House and the Senate,
in the Kentucky legislature, Savannah does the governor does who owns the governor's seat
in Frankfort, How much does it really matter? If you've got the supermajorities
acting in concert, we have the ability to override anything that the governor vetos.
The two major areas that it matters the most is the administrative states.
That's bureaucracy of folks that are appointed by the sitting governor, and because we
are a part time legislature, they have a disproportionate amount of power over the
lives of Kentuckians. You know, I am hopeful that if we manage to
elect a Republican governor that they will reign in that nebulous web of bureaucracy.
But I also think that there is a certain level of peril if we do
manage to elect a Republican and they become a rubber stamp for some of the
bad ideas that's coming out of the legislature. That that is a concern of
mine, you know, on things like tax reform proposals, and you know,
other types of bills that have been filed frankly by Republicans, you know,
such as red flag laws. If we have a Republican governor that coalesces
with that supermajority on key issues, then you know, we could well set
back to the constitutional conservative efforts by ten years. So I think it's really
important that we stick to our principles and stand our ground. Yep. And
you've always been very very consistent about that in every conversation you and I have
had and the way you have acted as a legislator in the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
And I appreciate your time on this first nightcap of the fall season.
All is a pleasure. Savannah Mattics from sixty first District in the House of
Representatives in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Thank you so much. That's Savannah Mattics
on the Nightcap. Our friend Rocco Costallano is next with suggestions to help Joe
Burrow heal. Mike mcconald, here was something for you to think about.
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As we continue, the Bengals thirty first in offense in the NFL after four
games, their defense giving up bo way too many yards and Joe Burrows standing
in the pocket like a statue because of the ongoing calf injury, and it
just doesn't seem to be getting better as he continues to play on it,
and to maybe have some some other kind of answers or suggestions for Joe Burrow's
rehab. We have our friend Rocco Costaguano train was Roco dot com. He's
a fitness expert of biohacker and and he knows a lot about the body.
So, Roco, what about Joe Burrow's body more specifically is calf and what
do you think is being done correctly and what do you think is being done
incorrectly as it comes to Joe Burrow's health as a football quarterback for the Cincinnati
Bengals. Well, I don't know what they're doing actually, because it's it's
obviously not getting better. So and we deal with a lot of a different
you know issues specifically a lower a body at a Rizana Wellness and at Tremolock.
We we are consistently looking at injuries especially and you know, I would
really want somebody else to be asking our discustions or or I'm just gonna put
it out there. Is this really a Grade one calf strain? Or is
it something else that the Bengals are keeping from us? Because we paid Joe.
We're paying Joe a lot of money to be on that field. No,
hold on, Rocco, are you personally paying Joe a lot of money
to be on that field? No, I'm not. But Joe, us
as fans and us as a people stand and when you buy a ticket,
you're paying to see him actually play. So I would want him to be
as healthy as a humanly possible, and I want to know what they are
specifically doing to hope to repair a very simple I mean a grade one capstrain.
Is it may be irritable, but it's not it's not a big injury.
And if he's not able to get back on that lay or or or
or move forward, there's something they're absolutely not doing. And you know,
and there's so many innovative things. I still think that the Bengals are back
in the eighties and you you know, are using old technology and old techniques.
Uh, when they're trying to fix these these injuries, because he'd not
fixed and this should have been done really, you know at least okay,
okay, weeks ago, Okay, Yeah, that's what I was going to
ask you, Rocco for eight Yeah, for a level one calf injury,
calf strain. What would you be doing at Rosanna wellness to resolve this?
And you say it should have been it should have been better, and he
should have been one hundred percent two weeks ago, what would you have done.
Well, You'll never be one hundred percent during the season. It's impossible
to be one hundred per sect. I'm not gonna you know, I'm not
gonna say that he should be out out there, you know, being being
yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, he is your birth but
he would be dancid or whatever, right, And so I would first things
first I wanted I would be I would I would be pumping him full of
of of a of a molecule called a glutifying and a glutifying is is what's
called the master antioxidant. So it's it's it's what we produce in our bodies
to repair cell damage, to repair tissue damage, right, And so that
that would be one of the first things that I would be advising him to
do. The second thing is that I know that the Bengals don't have a
PEMF a machine, a pulse electromagnetic field a therapy a machine. Because I'm
the only one in the tri state area that actually has one. I would
have him down here every single day, probably twice a day, or or
I would be going to him at least once once a day for a session
and doing a PEMF and and then the other the other thing. I would
be doing a red light therapy every single day, and and he would be
wearing it in a portable fashion. Well, what was what is what hold
on? What is red light therapy? So red light therapy, UH,
depending on it's it's photo by io a modulation, so a red light therapy.
Depending on the wavelength that you're using, either either a red light or
near infrared. UH, it will be going in a it can go up
to two point five centimeters to a little bit more into the skin, into
the muscle, into the tissue, and it literally helps to heal. We
don't allow ourselves enough light exposure. So when you use a red light therapy
or or a nearer infred therapy, it's it's going to help your collagen a
production, so so a connective tissue U. It helps with a blood circulation,
it helps to get a toxins out of the area. So you know
there's there's innovative modalities out there PEMF. Uh you know, a red light
therapy. We have a cold plunge. You know, he could be doing
you know ice bes right, which is going to help with with that inflammation,
with the healing. The PEMF does the exact same stuff, and then
and then I would be doing a compression. I would absolutely be doing We
don't, we do not know, we don't. We don't have privy to
know if the Bengals medical staff are doing all these things. But if they're
not, well, you heard it. He at least three of them.
So I mean, let's let's get let's let's get Joe Borrow healthy. Go
to train with Rocco dot com and ask some pertinent questions. Reporters, ask
some questions. Rocco, thank you, Thank you, Rocco Costellano. On
the nightcap, we'll be right back on seven hundred W l W LW and
really it wouldn't be tuesday. Our next guest who has uh you know,
have been lightened up to radio dial in and around Cincinnati now for a good
thirty forty years. I mean, he's he's just too long to say it's
for too long. It's not for too long. It's perfect and I what
do you say that if it's Tuesday, it's going to be me. I'm
always on Mondays with you. Now it's Tuesday. First of all, you
don't even get it because I don't know the list. How you work back
to back days in your life? Well, I know the last time I
worked back to back days in my life. It was before the red season,
right, you know, which which has just concluded. Do you have
any final just kind of post mortems on the baseball season that was in Cincinnati.
I mean, obviously they went over two million fans in attendance, so
there were people at the ballpark, they had other places to go, unlike
what Phil Castellini said, but people still showed up because of the excitement of
the young talent and the fact that this ball club was well not in the
playoffs, very very fun to watch. And you cannot deny that, Andy,
and the fact that this is a Reds town, you know, being
a beginning to and and it's a Reds town no matter what happens to the
Bengals ORFC Cincinnati or you see, Zavid, this is a Reds town.
It's a baseball town, always has been. Hell. Look, when you
have sad times, sour times, downtimes. People don't go. It's tough.
You know, what's an expensive deal to take a family to a ball
game. I don't care what ball game you're going through. So you want
to see a good product. And this year they put out a good product.
They were close, but no cigars. I talked to to Marty Brennaman
earlier tonight, Andy, and he said it was so exciting, so fun
to watch he almost unretired. Do you believe that? I don't believe that
for a minute. He loves retirement. Really, he says, what sign
out of the country than in the country. I know. I just talked
to him earlier. He and he and Amanda are going to Nova Scotia.
They're taking a cruise to Nova Scotia next week. How about that. I'm
sure it's free, but that's okay. What do you mean you sure it's
free? But that's part of the gift that he had when they retired,
that Marty Brennaman day thing at the ballpark and a get like ten thousand dollars
worth of travel deals from some agency. I think he did. Oh,
they've they've exhausted, they've run through that. Believe me as much as I
don't. I don't know as much as they traveled. So when do you
think that you would retire anytime soon? Andy? I mean you're still You're
working like a dog at the Point Arc and doing that wonderful work with that
great organization. You still yet he got an op ed in the Cincinnati Inquirer
once in a while they still print your stuff, and you got you got
one in too. Didn't you just just today really want Kenny Anderson recently?
You know that he should be in the Hall of Fame. Nah, you
know what. To me, it's a hobby. I enjoyed doing that stuff.
I enjoyed work. You know what. I think that when you stopped
working, you become old. I really believe that, and your brain turns
to mush. You know, I'm fortunate. I'm lucky. I got my
sens I got. My mind is still operating, and I think that as
long as you work is going to operate. I enjoy doing it, but
I didn't like doing it. I wouldn't continue working. I do some stories
with another Kentucky tribune. I got the point. I write twice a week
with the Brooklyn Daily Eagle. So I keep busy. I really do.
Maybe sometimes a little too busy, but but I enjoy it. My days
go fast. I enjoyed getting up in the morning knowing I got a list
of things to do. I love that. Yeah, you told me earlier
before we started this conversation, when we were just you know, hooking up,
that you were really tired. You've been really busy, just really pounding
the boot up early today. You know, I got up five thirty in
the morning, and uh, I couldn't sleep. I had a whole lot
of things on my plate that I'm running around and I think I'm tired because
I don't need anything yet today. I just had a couple of coffee in
the morning. What what what keeps Because I know you're kind of a nervous
guy. Sometimes you're kind of a nervous nellie. Well, what what keeps
Andy Firman up at night? What what makes you not get good sleep when
you don't having a bad meal? Indigestion probably really more than anything. Acid
acid refluxes number one for me too. I'll wake up at you know,
at twelve thirty one o'clock in the morning and just go, oh jeez.
And then I have said every once in a while myself. But I have
something that just doesn't agree with me, Like I have about pizza late at
night. You know, something acidic that'll get to me. Tomatoes get me.
Let's food like that late at night. It'll get me white castles late
and I love white castle but you know, sometimes they get me. There
aren't any thoughts that race through your head that keep you up and make you
I mean, do you ever do you ever worry just about doing these conversations
with me? But because I know they can be so taxing on your on
your personal You're the least of my operation. Really, of everything else I
got going on my life, at least you're the comic relief of my life.
You really are? You theausus? So what am I are? You
made me relax? Let let me reenact a scene from Good Fellows? What
do you mean you mean I'm a clown to amuse you? What do I
do? Do I talk funny? Do I dress funny? Uh? Do
I say funny things? No? I mean he's great. You call me
you're coming. You're a comming influence and I appreciate that, well, really
does. That's one of the nicest things you've ever seen you bring up the
best and worst in me at times. Hey, and you know you know
how to push the buttons with me. And I appreciate that, I really
do, because you know how to get me going. I'm sure you're going
to be that doing that in a couple of minutes from now. Well,
there was there was one thing you said you wanted to talk about, but
then there was also the you suggested or sent as submitted an editorial to the
inquiry. Do you want to talk about that at all? About Joe Burrow?
I want people to read it. We could talk about it if there
it gets in print. You know, that's a tease. You know,
why would I tell him? Now, let's tease a little bit. Uh.
It's about him being the average Joe. And you don't think, Yeah,
you know what's funny. I was driving my wife and I were at
a wedding on Sunday and Billini was a whole. It was like near Tips
City, Ohio, one hundred miles round trip. So on the way back
on seventy five south around West chest that we passed a Kroger billboard and it
says I'm not the average Joe. That was a picture of Joe Burrow and
boom the lightm off my head is that's that's tremendous. That's gonna be something
I'm gonna write about. Because you're right, he's not the average jo I
wish he was. I wish this year he was average. He's below average.
And so I got myself kind of rittled up and I put some stuff
together, set it out to the inquirer, and I think it will the
end before Sunday, before the game on Sunday, my friend Rocco Costallano,
who was just on last half hour Andy uh Or in the nine o'clock hour,
he he thinks that the Bengals training staff must be not doing the things
to get him prepared well. He would say that because wants everybody to come
to his place. I get it, you know, I mean, he's
promoted. I understand. But but he suggested specific things that he thinks they
should be doing. Because a level one, tell me, tell me one
thing that he said they should be done. I want to hit this red
is genius. I want to hit this red light therapy. Also, there
was a certain molecule he suggested that he don't he doesn't think that they're giving
him because he said that if it's not legal, if he know it's legal,
if he was in charge, If he was in charge, Joe Burrow
would have been better two weeks ago, and he's obviously not better. Yes,
you know what, though it's great to say that to a radio one
is let him get on the phone and talk to the training stead Let him
talk to you know, really, if he feels that strongly about it,
he could be a savior to the community. Think about that, well,
well, everybody, we want it, we put it out. We put
it out there in the interview train with Roco dot Com. The Bengals should
contact him. Maybe no, no, no, it doesn't work that way.
See if he's no, if he's the cure, all he gets on
the horn and say, look, I think you need to see me for
fifteen twenty minutes. Let me have an audience with you. I could get
this guy back in shape. That's They're not gonna call him. They got
paid professionals with trainers over there, okay, and medical people. But if
he feels that strongly, get on the phone and dollar Bengals office and there's
for the training stip. Well, Betty hit go down there to a practice.
As I say, he could be a savior to this city because people
are wondering and hoping that Joe burrow A is healthy and be playing against Arizona
Sunday. Andy Furman, let me know and let us know what you think
so far of the NFL season. Let's let's set the Bengals aside for a
moment. It's hard to do because we're right here in the middle of ground
orange and black zero. But let's let's set that aside. What have you
seen so far in the National Football League this year? Ye? That tells
you this team they really got it and this team no way. It's funny
you mentioned that, because I think it's easy to say that week by week
and then it changes week by week. And that's why the NFL is such
a great game. It's like a soap opera, is balanced. Why do
I say that? That goes two weeks ago, Miami drops seventy points on
Denver, and this Sunday they lose to Buffalo forty eight twenty and Denver,
I mean, I thought everybody thought Miami was the end all because all all
of them Miami's gonna win it all, and then Buffalo hands it to him
on Sunday, so you just don't know what it's Basically, it's really great.
I'll look at the Minnesota Vikings, a playoff team of a year ago.
They're one three and basically they've lost, you know, basically every game
by six points or less. Kirk Cousins and more than that, Kirk Cousins
leading the Lincoln passing. It's crazy, it really is. It is incredible
the Bears. How much how bad must the Bears be to get walloped by
the Broncos After the Broncos got beat by fifty against the Dolphins this season,
see that Arizona the team that Bengals are playing on Sunday, that's the team
that's gonna dump for a quarterback in the draft. Arizona comes out beats Dallas,
and now the worst team in the league has to be the Chicago Bears
Denver. The Bears are obviously all The last great quarterback on the Chicago Bears
probably was Sid Luckman. Look it up, Sid Luckman. You give me
Sid Luckman, amazing. I will give you. I'll take your I'll see
your Sid Luckman, and I will go to another team and I will raise
you A C. J. Stroud how impressive has he been so far?
Very much so, I tell you, one of the up and comers,
one of the top quarterbacks that have coming early on and made an impression.
I think he's he's got something cooking over there here, really does you know?
It's kind of crazy what we're seeing. And again the big disappointment.
And I saw Monday I was a quarterback of the New York Giants. They
gave him a big cutch chunk of money and he hasn't done anything. Obviously,
no protection. He was sacked like eleven times Monday night. But still
at all. I mean, Daniel Jones is not the guy. I mean,
the city of New York is in a quarterback frenzy. They got Zach
Zach over there with the Jets and Daniel Jills of the Giants. Yeah,
and they just can't get it done. But I will pay you this.
He played very well against the Kansas City Chiefs and they probably should have won
that game for sake of a fumble at the end by Zach Wilson. But
you know what people say, all of a sudden, how comes that played
so great? How come we did so well against the Kansas City Chiefs?
You know, My feeling is on that, my own personal take on this
game, that Aaron Rodgers was brought back to call the plays. Aaron Rodgers
called the plays in that game because Zach Wilson. Okay, because Nathaniel Hackett
can't hack it. Okay, get it. He's the offensive coordinator, the
coach who was fired in Denver. List. Yeah, he couldn't hack it
there. He can't hack it in the Jets. They bring Aaron Rodgers back
on crutches. He's up in the boot by himself. Colon placed to Zach
Wilson, speaking of Zach's and let's go back to the Bengals for a moment.
Should Zach Taylor actually be calling place for the Bengals at this point?
Well, I mean, you know, when you win, no one says
anything. When you lose, you're you're you're a target. And I think
that right now, Zach, Zach Taylor has to adjust his play calling to
an immobile quarterback. I mean, obviously the defenses right now and budding at,
chomping at the bit, knowing that that Joe can't move. He can,
he's stationary in the pocket. See'll load up the defensive line, you
rush the guy your blitz blitz blitz, you can't run, and that's what
It puts a lot of pressure on the Bengals defense as well. So you
know, he's got to come up with some sort of a scheme that maybe
screenplays, maybe some screens. I don't know. I don't stay up like
these guys do. I'm not the so called offensive geniuses that they claim to
be. We'll see. The pressure really right now is on Zach Taylor and
a step not on Joe Parole, because you know, Joe Parrel has an
excuse he's and let me let me go back to the Jets Chiefs game,
which of course you know I'm a Kansas City Chiefs fan that that quarterback is
my Mahomy And so anyway, they have the ball at the end, Mahomes
rushes for the first down and he slides just short of the goal line.
Somebody told me that that's absolutely a bookie move, that was a bet move.
I said, well, no, I mean he gets the first down.
The Jets don't have any timeouts. They can they can just run the
clock. But but that's a lot of a lot of people with gambling.
A lot of people said that that Patrick Mahomes moved the slide short of the
goal line when he could have scored the touchdown. Was all about Vegas,
about gambling. It was a thirteen million dollars move. Somebody told me,
well, and you know what, the people who told you that gambles,
you know, and that's they think. I mean when I see that,
I say, hey, the genius move. Run the clock. They have
no timeouts left. It's a football move, not a gambling move. However,
that is the danger of guys that may be dropping a pass at the
end of the game that should have been caught that could be a touchdown.
That's the danger of inventing or permitting gambling to get involved in sports. You
could have hurt the credibility at times. Give me the examples. Two weeks
ago, I think it was the year Rams and I forgetting who they were
playing. They went for a field goal and they were still way at it.
It was like no time to go. Remember that game. They went
for a field goal at the end of the game, and they said they
covered by making that field goal and had no reason to go for a field
goal at no time left on the clock, right, no time left on
the clock. That couldn't have won the game, or that there was changed
to spread and and really that was a gambling move. That's that's what it
was. It had to be right, sure, But but and I had
this discussion with Marty earlier. Marty Brennaman was on the show. I'm name
dropping now, but I had this discussion with Marty and and he said,
no, it's it's better to have it out in the open now that gambling
is legal, because gambling is always played a role in the NFL, especially
Andy. You know that if you if you're not going to admit that,
then you've either got your head in the sand or you're part of the cabal
that is that is changing the outcome of games for gamblers, even if you're
not gambling. I mean, you're exactly right, you know. And football
is the perfect game a game it's perfect, I mean the way it's set
up, the way the points are. I mean, it's very difficult to
bet on baseball, although people have done that, obviously, difficult to bet
on basketball, it's not too bad. Hockey's ridiculous. But football is the
perfect gambling game. Yep, no no question about that. I mean,
so you don't gamble at all. Right, Well, I weren't the race
trucks on my life and I only have a place to bet. I just
looked at it as a sport and try to promote it in that as.
I never got caught up in that. It never really interests me. It
really didn't. You want to talk about sports that are dirty with gambling.
I mean the horse racing is used to be exhibited a number one. Well,
I would tell you this because I think any sport that has gambling involved
with it is somewhat shady. It has to be. There are people in
there that look for shortcuts or whatever. Well, look the good news.
If these players make so much money, I don't think a gambler could get
to that. I really don't. But what happened in the NBA several years
ago when when some of those referees were gambling. Right, it's just a
question. If you can get to somebody and give them the right amount of
money, they're gonna do it. That's what it does. Money changes everything.
Cindy Lawper said that, Andy, I'm quoting Cindy lawser Wait, it
didn't change Taylor Swift. Didn't didn't change Taylor Swift because no think about this.
I mean, now Taylor Swift is getting involved, you know, really
it hurts me. The NFL doesn't need Taylor Swift. The NFL could stin
out its own two feet. It's the most popular sport in the world.
I don't care what they say about soccer in Europe. The NFL is king.
Okay, So she aligns herself with the NFL and Travis Kelsey's good for
her. They don't need her, right, it's a it's a bad move.
Now. If you really want that, to be smart and be a
hero, Taylor, you know you should have done align yourself Amazing League Baseball.
They could have used you. I wonder how many Swifties would have gone
to baseball to see her. Andy, I don't I don't think. I
don't think it has anything to do with her trying to take over the NFL
or prop the it's the heart wants what the heart wants. Oh, Travis,
Ty's too stupid to realize that the Taylor Swift is using them. Really
on, Travis, wake up, she's using you. I think that's a
good place to stuff Andy. Thank you very much. Is always the fur
ball on the night. Jeff Gods, God bless you seven hundred WLW with
inflation compensation, you could knocking for the fall season on seven hundred w l
W. I'm Gary Jeff Walker. I will be guiding you around in this
next half hour with one of our favorite guests of all time, a lady
who I first came to know as someone who was spouting off. And you
know what, that hasn't changed over the years, because she still is,
and tonight she's going to spout off with us. A talk show host,
a thinker, a patriot. Karen Cataline joins in on the nightcap. How
you doing kk, I'm doing good, I might add, my husband would
add a royal Paine in the bloomin I've got. I have a friend of
mine and I know he and his wife, and I'll always ask him,
usually it's at the bar. I'll say, hey, Kyle, has Nicole
meaner than a rattlesnake. That's what he always That's how he always responds when
I ask how his wife is doing. So I understand, So we'll start.
We'll start in the lighthearted front reel real quickly with some borrowed material from
the uh from one of my favorite websites, the Babylon Bee. We've talked
about this before, and the latest headline. Here are the only twenty times
it's it's acceptable for a man to cry. They start with when you're a
soldier in the Civil War and your leg gets blown off by a cannonball.
It's okay. Here, here's sure, it's okay to cry. Here's here's
something that a lot of men will relate to. When you manage to mow
your lawn and perfectly straight diagonal lines. Uh, and see you you've gotta
you've gotta have the mowing gene. You've got to understand the mowing gene.
A perfectly mowed lawn for a man who is doing it is is something that
can bring a lot of men to tears. Oh, he's crying out of
happiness. Yes, that's right, that's right. Okay, when a when
a toddler just performed a double knee drop from the arm of the couch onto
your groin, it's okay to cry. My dog does that, but for
different reasons. Yep, he jumps on my lap and he just doesn't know
his size. He doesn't understand that we have bones, and yes, exactly.
At the Vietnam or World War Two memorials I would agree that's that's definitely
permissible if for a man to cry, Yeah, and there was there was
something. This is one this I'll end with this because this is funny,
that part in the Notebook when Ali comes back to Noah for just a few
fleeting moments and everything's back to normal for far too short a time, and
then Ali relapses and then they die holding hands. Ha ha, just kidding.
This one was a test. You cried during the Notebook you are gay?
I love that. That is a certifiable chick flick, no doubt about
it. So should Kevin McCarthy be ousted from his speakership? They certain they
certainly are looking like they're they're poised to do it. Do you think it
will happen? I would be shocked if it did. I mean, look
at how hard they work to keep them in there, and now all of
a sudden, Yeah, I think they're gonna go after Matt Gates more than
they'll go after Kevin McCarthy. Yeah. Then I'm lousy at telling the future,
so I don't know. There you go. We can all read the
tea leaves, just it's different tea sometimes. And it's such a show,
isn't it mean, it is every show, everything for our consumption. We're
being fed. I have a new verb for you, two hoax. It's
not just a hoax, it's two hoax. It is an active verb.
Like, for example, the entire Republican debate, in my opinion, is
a hoax. It's ridiculous. It's a bizarre little hoax, and but it
is. It is an ongoing hoax. May I just sort of wax philosophy.
Absolutely, that's what you're here for. Okay, go ahead. Well,
I had to write this out because it was a little bit convoluted or
intricate or whatever three syllable word you want to convolute to. That's a force
syllable word. I think what bothers me most about the debates, for example,
is that the establishment and the elites are pretending that there is wide opposition
to Trump on the right and overtly promoting opposition to Trump also while pretending there
is no opposition to Biden on the last and overtly suppressing that. That's what
bothers me. It is not real. It is a hoax. Well,
just as the whole government shutdown was a hoax ally and the lead up to
it. Yeah, I was talking about this yesterday, I said in for
Willie on the Bill Cunningham Show here, but I was talking about this obvious
political theater, and the can kickers keep on doing it and trying to convince
the American people that they're just they're working as hard as they can to keep
the government functioning and to work for us and to effectively be stewards of our
tax dollars. And then they pull this stunt every single time at the end
of every fiscal year. It's you're getting ready to drop off the cliff,
and they wait until midnight, until it strikes midnight. Sometimes, you know,
they do this hoax shutdown of the federal government, which, by the
way, do they ever talk about how they're not going to get paid,
the senators and the House members are not going to get paid with the government
shutdown. They never talk about that. They talk about the t SA,
they talk about bus service, they talk about i mean, for kids and
parents. They talk about things that they think we're going to care about,
like keeping the national parks open and all these other myriad of things, you
mean, like Obama did in this term, trying to let us know how
desperate we need the government you know, to keep a public park open.
It's as if Hollywood wrote this script every year, isn't it. It's as
if Hollywood wrote it. But the fact that people keep buying it is what's
amazing to me. Yeah, And you know what, how do we know
people are buying it when the media, which lies and as part of the
hoax, wants us to believe that the public is more gullible than they actually
are. I would submit that the biggest reason for the government shutdown every year
is to try to drum into people's heads that we desperately need the government now.
Sperately. We must have them and life will be miserable without them.
Most people who have watched this government and many others down through the years.
And you know what about like Will Rogers said in a hundred years ago,
are cheering in hopes that the government would shut down for a day. But
they never do. They never ever do. They never leave us alone,
is what it is. And they don't want to leave us alone. And
the giant, bloated bureaucracies, the obese bureaucracies that are a part of our
government, and these unelected appointed people in the Department of Education never feel any
kind of never feel any kind of pain from a possible government shut down.
They keep these obsolete, unnecessary agencies open. They're never threatened with. Well,
the Department of Energy will shut down tonight at midnight if the government is
not fully funded by Congress or with the Continuing Resolution, and of course that
never happens. All of the things that are really really useless and shouldn't be
there in the first place, they go on operating and functioning just as they
had before. Every time they're called essential, they're not essentials. The most
worthless of government agencies are the ones that are called essential, right, that's
part of the homes it's a burb. Yeah, the Department of Transportation,
I mean we had a fully functioning, fully funded Department of Transportation. Why
when the train derailed in East Palestine, Ohio and polluted an entire town and
surrounding neighborhoods, and you know it took a pothole, Pete how long to
just get out there, and Joe Biden every actually never showed up when they
were these people were clamoring and worried about the health of them and their children
in their town. But the Department of Transportation, which oversees such things.
Was totally useless, and it was a great It was a great chance for
people to have the spotlight shined on how absolutely useless these government agencies and departments
are. Touche and where were Where was the left? That was such an
atrocity. It's it was Taylor made for the flagship issue for the left right,
the environment, you know, keeping things. Hey remember that weird movie
which I don't know if I saw all of with with Julia Roberts, where
she played that person environmental stuff, right, this is their issue and yet
that's it. Thank you very much for my little brain birth there. And
yet they ignored it completely. They and the media ignored it completely. You
would have thought that they would have been jumping up and down. Same thing
with the fires in Hawaii. Yes, that's an environmental disaster. And these
environmental disasters by the environmental activists suddenly don't seem to care. May I say
make another example? Yes, please? Where is Cindy Sheehan on the Ukrainian
War? It's an excellent question any her anybody heard at all we I mean
all of it. She was camping out on George W. Bush's doorstep,
and believe me. I have absolutely no love for George W. Bush or
the Bushes in general. They have been exposed to be the turncoats that they
really always were. The radical left was more right about them than they knew.
Now suddenly there isn't one anti war activist. In fact, all of
a sudden, the Democrat Party are war activists. How did that happen?
Well, because Vladimir Putin is the most evil person ever ever on the face
of the earth, and he must be defeated at any cost, and the
cost is coming from all of us. It is it's the same, it's
the same industrial military complex that Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us about because he
saw it coming. That was another conspiracy theory that came true, wasn't it.
Oh yeah, we used to say, you know, he was kind
of a conspiracy theorist, but maybe he wasn't. No, No, he
was not. And I wish somebody would have warned us about the pharmaceutical medical
industrial complex. Well do you remember once upon a time, not that many
years ago, when the left was talking about big pharma. They were,
in fact, they were talking about Remember this, this seems like ancient history.
When the left was screaming and jumping up and down about how the big
box stores were eating up the mom and pop stores, and they hated Walmart
until they didn't. They hated all the big box stars until they didn't.
They were jumping up and down. This my favorite one about keeping America beautiful
and littering and the environment. Now, it's perfectly okay. I ain't been
encouraged to camp up on the street crash your city. You kind of broke
up there, your your phone signal kind of broke up. Oh sorry,
that's okay. It was so good. Well, we'll say it perfectly.
Say it again, say it again. It's perfectly okay to trash your city,
live in a tent, destroy the city, and poop on the sidewalk.
The poop on the sidewalk was the Kuda gras. That's what I was
waiting for. So anyway, you're right, you're absolutely right, and that's
okay. It was okay while they were they're trying to force everybody in America
to wear masks to protect us against something that mass didn't protect you from.
But when the Antiva and the Black Lives Matter protesters were burning cities and rioting,
and they weren't wearing masks. It was it was for a greater cause.
So it's okay, well except that they they gave them cover to wear
masks, because, after all, who is it that traditionally have always worn
masks in society, even back to the Old West when they used to bandan
over their criminal it was criminals, but criminals who didn't want to be identified.
So, you know, everything is upside down and backwards today, and
I think among those things that are upside down and backwards is the fact that
a greater and greater number of people aren't getting it and understanding what's going on.
That doesn't mean everybody, it's never everybody, but the illusion, I'm
just starting to realize this, the illusion that the public is going along with
this and these dictators are not governing against the will of the people, is
getting harder and harder to justify. You can talk to just about almost anybody
except the people will that fancy themselves fair minded because they watch MSNBC and Fox
News at the same time, or they watch them bosa they think, oh,
well, I'm an independent, I got both sides of the story.
But in fact, I think people are watching this that doesn't mean, it's
going to turn around by that alone. But have you ever in your life
seen anything more brazenly unfair as using lawfare to quadruplely indict your political opponent and
keep them off the ballot. As Tucker Carlson said, that's the whole plan.
Even if it's the dumbest case in the world, which they are,
it won't matter because you know it's it's a great paradox. None of this
world, none of this, none of this is about putting Donald Trump in
jail. This is about keeping off the campaign trail and bankrupting him if they
can bankrupting him, but also smearing him and making sure and keeping him off
the ballot. And people who think that's not their intent should realize that there
are people activists in many of the states already mostly leftist states, sadly like
Colorado, in which people are working to do just that to keep him off
the ballot. Now, mind you, he hasn't been convicted of anything,
but they're already being proactive to keep him off the ballot with the wrap around
smear that they already created, which was to indict him, and so they
could say, see he's indicted, he doesn't need to be on the ballot.
I mean unless yeah, go ahead, finished finish, unless you are
mentally ill, you would have to find a way to justify what I just
said that that's perfectly legit, go ahead. Well, it was nice to
see the Supreme Court just kind of saying now we're not going to hear this
case filed by Castro who was trying to keep Donald Trump off the ballot New
Hampshire. Uh that that happened yesterday, so uh, there's still there's still
the Supreme Court. Thank god. You know, Gary Jeff, it's just
astonishing that they can charge their political opponent with election interference while they go about
interfering with an election. Yes, I know. I mean if it worked
so sad, it would be hilarious. Well, let's Karen, let's close
with this. Karen Cataline, our guest on the Nightcap again, thank you,
dear. Uh you mentioned the word dictator earlier. Is is that a
misshapen potato? I'm glad I gave you an opportunity to do that. Okay,
thanks dame, love you, thank you. Take care. It's Karen
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It's another hour of the Nightcap here on seven hundred WLWV. First of twenty
twenty three's fall season. Gary Jeff Back with Jeff and back with Us has
been a favorite of mine, a favorite of this program, a favorite of
many of yours for a long long time, and he rejoins us as the
new season starts. The vate King of Northern Kentucky stand up comedian, father,
husband and friend Jay Armstrong. How you doing. Oh, I'm doing
fantastic, Gary Jeff. How are you good? Good? Good good.
I'm just I'm getting into this mode again where I'm not bartending as much,
which believe me, I'm I'm happy about, and doing more radio, which
I'm very happy about. So yeah, I mean, it's just that the
change from the seasonal jobs that I've been doing just to make make ends meet
and keep a roof over my head to now doing something that I have wanted
to do and I've been doing for a long long time. So it's it's
a good It's a good day. Good day. Listen, it sounds like
a good day. I would ask you, first off, as a as
a man who got kicked off of Facebook for for vehemently demeaning former Bengals coach
Marvin Lewis. Are you at that point with Zach Taylor yet? I'm getting
there this? Uh, I just off. I get so frustrated. He
just came out and said that they're going to play him again. They're gonna
play Burrow again, like he's hurt, let him heal. And the argument
is, well, we could lose if we don't play Burrow. We were
one and three. Yeah, so all we're doing is aggravating that injury and
making the season worst down. Just take the medicine today. It's just so
frustrating. And it's not just it's not just Taylor, you know, part
of part of that, you know falls on Burrow too. He could say
I don't want to play, I'm hurt, I want to heal. But
when you're at that age, you know, you're mid twenties, you're ten
feet Paul made of stealing invisible right. Sure, if you look at if
you look at his gameplay, just his movement altogether, like he's not comfortable,
he can't plant that, He's like a statue back there. Jay.
Yeah, it's it's just it's so ugly and it's terrible to watch him get
hit over and over and over again. And speaking to that, why does
Frank Pollock still have a job? I don't. I don't get that.
That's where I he's my Marvin Lewis right now, it's Frank Pollock holdne coordinator.
Yeah. I don't get it either. And and you taught with Orlando
Brown Junior beIN here, and by the way, he's played pretty well,
you don't. You can't take anything away from from Brown on the line.
No, especially when you got Cordell Yeah, especially when you got Cordell Wolson
right next to him opening the door up for the opposing team to come in
and smash Joe. So I'm not I'm I'm pretty over Frank Pollock and I'm
over Cordell Bolson. That experiment has been a failure, So let's just move
on. It makes me so mad after so many years, right, well
was it thirty one years without a playoff win? And then we finally get
a team that's Super Bowl caliber and what did they do? They run them
into the ground and make terrible decisions. I don't understand what's happening. Well,
maybe what's happening is similar to what happened with the Los Angeles Rams after
they beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl, they won a super Bowl the
next year, they were dreadful. Well yeah, I mean they traded off
their future for one year contracts for a super team to win the Super Bowl.
Like that's that's what they did and that was expected. That's not what
we've done. There's no excuse for this O line to still be this bad.
There you go, So you're close to getting kicked a Facebook again,
aren't you. I'm trying to be quiet on Facebook. Man. There's NFL
groups or what get me every time now? And I've been hit with so
many violations that the algorithm nails me. There's certain words I just cannot use,
Like where's you're allowed to use onlike cable television? I cannot use them
or I get instantly banned. Well can you use the words here on the
radio? I'm not entirely sure. It's the one that keeps getting me.
Is the one that you call a female dog. That's the one that keeps
getting me ten days suspensions. Oh well, that's that's a bit that they're
that very frustrating well, you know, and it doesn't matter if I use
it as a noun or a verb. It doesn't matter, just the use
of the word at all. I infinitely get hello, Oh he went away.
He went away, and we did not edit him or bleep him.
So I'm gonna call him back in just a few minutes and talk about how
his cell phone provider is definitely a bitch. As we continue on the nightcap
on seven hundred WLWA, We'll be right back with Jay Armstrong. I think
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is a big deal, especially when it comes to your health. This is
Jeff for Tri State Men's Health and if you're a man and suffering with a
rectile dysfunction, low testosterone or other body mouth, Jay Armstrong, I have
no idea why you went on that rant that we had to somebody had to
cut you off, Jay, I mean, are you are you willing to
behave now? I guess man, the deep state got me. No.
You could hear everything. You could hear everything I was saying, but I
could not hear you at all. Yeah. Man, George Soros put that
voice filter on me and you couldn't hear me anymore. How much of that
do you think is going on still? And we've had all this debate and
controversy about social media and Washington stepping in to censor people on social media inc
hoots with the social media networks, be they Facebook, be at Google,
be at ex Twitter. How much of that do you think is still going
on? Jay? Oh? Every bit of it. And I also think
that our intelligence agencies are still going through messages completely without a warrant, just
like always. It's like edworshm Odin told us about. And I think I
think the more dangerous thing, though, is And when I say that,
I don't say it lightly because government censorship through social media is definitely incredibly dangerous.
But you have these groups like Cambridge Analytica that are constantly analyzing all this
data through algorithms and AI to say to tell people what to say to be
most effective to manipulate the general public. That is what worries me more than
the censorship. But those two things definitely work together. Aren't people more aware
of that though? Now, because it's been pointed out and it's been admitted
that the government is you know, tapping these social media and tech giants on
the shoulders saying hey, we can't have that because it doesn't go along with
our narrative. But people know that that's happening now, So doesn't that at
least change the perception of rivacy. I have to ask Dave Hatter these questions.
But don't you think that people are a little bit more on the ball
with this kind of stuff now that we've been through, you know, especially
through the scam deemic and everything with COVID and and all of the all of
the filtering that was done there when it came to ivermecton and the dangers,
the adverse effects of COVID nineteen vaccines and all of the things that have been
pointed to there is dangers, but that was not allowed to be aired in
the public space because it was misinformation. Well, you know what, more
information, no matter what the information is, I think is always better for
the average person, so they can make up their own mind. I mean,
do you think it, Yeah, I don't know. To some extent,
you kind of got to protect people from themselves, right, No,
no, no, no, no, that is not the job. That
is not the job of the government protecting people from themselves. I mean you
can cite seat belt laws if you want, or the law in Ohio now
that you can't have a cell phone in your hand while you're driving. I
think those are probably reasonable things. But at the same time, it's I
don't like the nanny state at all. Yeah, I don't like that an
elderly couple went to the local pet store and bought aquarium grade hydrochloroquine killed themselves
because they read a social media post saying it with saving from COVID. Now,
if you're fine with those older people who don't make those clear decisions just
killing themselves because they read something that some idiot wanted to say on Facebook because
of a political narrative that they want to push that's that's on you. I'm
not okay with that. Well, they were also they were censoring hydroxychloroquine,
which now the CDC has indoors they weren't. They weren't addressing aquarium grade,
you know. No, they were taking out but that's where people can go
buy regular people can't go buy medical grade hydrochloricuine without without a prescription. So
these people read this stuff on Facebook that said the government's trying to stop you
from taking the real medicine. So they went and got the real medicine and
now they're dead. Their family has got a big hole because they listened to
that nonsense on social media. So yeah, I think that that if you're
going to make a platform for people to talk about and I don't even necessarily
think it's the government's job here. I think it's the social media platforms.
If you're going to connect people so that they can share information, you are
responsible in part for what information gets shared in the consequences of such information.
Okay, we were talking about two different things. Hydroxy Chloroquine is easy to
get, it's off patent, it's very inexpensive, and the doctors can prescribe,
describe it. Maybe The problem is they can prescribe it. Yes they
can. Yes, they can prescribe, but you can't just go stay it
at Walmart. But you can't, Jay Jay, calm down just a second.
What I'm telling you is state and medical boards prohibited these doctors from prescribing
or threatened their license if they prescribe something that now the CDC has endorsed it
is a good preventative treatment for COVID nineteen. They've already admitted that what they
said three years ago. No, it won't help you, it's dangerous,
don't take it, and doctors don't prescribe it. So that's what drives an
old couple to find something that they think is close to that. That was.
That was the medical industry, the pharmaceutical medical industrial complex that did that,
not a social mediary desk. It's probably not the people saying, ignore
your doctor, ignore the government. Get it however you can get it and
take it. It's probably not them. You're probably right. It's probably not
the people that directly said to do exactly what that old couple said. No,
it's not, it's not it's not any No, it's not in Jang's
not it's not anybody it's not anybody recommending after doctor after doctor has said I
treated patients with hydroxychloroquin and you know what, they're better. That's what that's
what you're ignoring, doctor after doctor after doctor that I talked to you,
and they weren't quacks. They got their medical degree the same place that the
guys at the CDC or whoever has a medical license got it. And you
know what, they're they're still a doctor. Just because they don't agree with
the official stance of the government that was all trying to propagate the pandemic.
They weren't trying to protect or save people. That's insane, Okay, okay,
but that's fine. The people that directly said to do it are not
the people responsible. That's that's amazing. That's a level of mental gymastics.
I said. I and also people I looked up whether or not the CDC
is recommending hydropped the chloric when as a preventative measure for COVID nineteen and that's
not true. You said that at the beginning of this, and that's a
problem they have. You said they endorsed it as a preventative measure, and
that's just not true. See that's the problem as a treatment. You've said
preventative measure, and I couldn't find it as a treatment either. So the
problem is is that people hear stuff that's completely untrue from people who say other
things that they like, and then they follow that to their death. That's
a problem. So yeah, everybody should should be careful about what information is
shared. Stuff that's not true is not information. Information is only stuff that's
true, all right. I just I just have talked to so many doctors
who prescribe hydroxychloroquin for their patients, and their patients did great. I mean,
like like nearly one hundred percent of their patients were better after the rounds
of hydroxy clark win. Same thing with ivermectin. They called it horse pills,
and while it's similar drugs, it's not the same thing that's being prescribed
and has been okay for humans to use jay right, right, But that's
not what people were sharing on social media. The reason people said horse paste
is because there were tons of huge groups of people that were sharing direct links
on where to buy veterinary grade ivermectin. Because your doctor is not going to
want to give it to you, so come and get this horse paste.
I actually know a doctor. I know a doctor from Michigan who him and
his wife were taking the horse paste version of ivermectin and they both got COVID
and she spent a year in the hospital because he stopped her from getting real
treatment to just follow the conspiracy theory nonsense of ivermectin. Okay, Well,
there's lots of conspiracy theory nonsense, and a lot of it revives revolves around
Maderna and Johnson and Johnson Jay. Yeah, I'm sure it does. And
we're all going to die tomorrow because our vaccines are going to be activated by
the New World Order. Right. I didn't say that. I didn't know
a lot of people listening to this this right now that probably are worried about
what's going to happen with their phone tomorrow because they've heard the same misinformation from
the same people about that too. Okay, your phones are going to be
fine tomorrow. If you've gotten vaccinated, you don't have to freak out.
I never said that people should be freaking out because they got a vaccine.
You're confusing me with somebody else. Hello, yep, I'm here. Oh
okay, I just love getting you charged up. Yeah, Well, the
problem is is you know that it gets me charged up because Jason Goodall is
ground right now. You know it gets me charged up because my brother in
law is in the ground right now. And you want to continue to share
the same nonsense that's being shared on social media that drives people to their deaths.
So stop it. Just stop talking about it, all right. You're
not an expert on it. I'm not an expert on it. But what
I can share is the direct experience of my friends and my family member who
are not going to take another breath. I got you, both of whom
were unvaccinated because they listened to this nonsense, that the nonsense that there weren't
people that had solutions to this beyond what was pushed and recommended by the WHO
and by the CDC. But you mean I remett in the hydrop the medicines
that we were already talking about that put people other people in the ground.
All right, you think that that's you think that that's still the answer.
Go tell those families like, look, man, I'm sorry that your family
member died from this thing that I endure. But look, not my fault
and not the fault of anybody else who said the same thing. It's the
government's fault and it's the Democrat's fault, even though you did what we said
and you died. Okay, can you tell me whether the factual and accuracy
is not the opinion. You're the one earlier that said it wasn't the people
pushing those things that killed people's fault. It was the Democrats and it was
the government. That's what you said, not the people. Suggest I didn't
say democrats specifically, No, I did not. I said no, I
So I didn't. This was not a pro Republican rant, Jay, It
was just a difference of opinion. And my experience with COVID, and I've
had it twice, has been largely different. My family's experience with it has
been largely different. And I know lots of people who've gotten the first shot,
the second shot, the three boosters, and have been very, very
sick with COVID afterwards. Jay, So that's my personal experience. Guess we'll
leave it there. Probably all right, all right, I'm sorry I got
you upset. Are you hoping to calm things down a little bit from the
last phone call? I hope I didn't lose a friend there, But anyway,
it was it was good to let him speak his piece and yell at
me for a while, changing gears completely from that tech guy, our it
guy, from into it or in trust it. Excuse me? Is the
one and only Dave Hatter. Dave, welcome back to the Nightcap. It's
great to have you on the show. Always my pleasure, Garret Jeff,
glad to be back, and hopefully we'll do some good tonight help people avoid
some of the crazy things that are going on out there around cybersecurity. Well,
Amazon just got fined twenty five million dollars for deceiving parents and violating the
child privacy privacy laws. So first off, how did how was it found
that Amazon violated child privacy laws? And explain this to me a little bit,
Dave. Yeah, So I guess let me start out and say,
twenty five twenty five million dollars sounds like a lot to Amazon. That's like
twenty five dollars to me and you Gary Jeff. So I'm glad to see
that, you know, action is being taken against these tech titans who are
frequently at best using dark patterns and privacy washing to do things that are not
in your interest and at worst are just you know, blatantly flouting what their
terms of servicing and so forth. So the FTC find Amazon twenty five millions
or violating the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, which amongst other things, says
you have to be thirteen years old or older to engage in a lot of
this stuff online without parental consent. Apparently, the Department of Justice filed this
complaint on behalf of the FTC and basically said that Amazon for a long time
has been misleading people about what they're doing with the data collected through smart devices
like Alexa. So here's a direct quote. Amazon's history of misleading parents.
Keeping children's recordings indefinitely at plowing parents deletion requests violated KAPA and sacrifice privacy for
profits profits rather, says Samuel Lavine, director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer
Protection. Quote, KAPA does not allow companies to keep children's data forever for
any reason. It's certainly not to train their algorithms. And the basic gist
of it was so Alexa, right, the thing you talked to from Amazon
that goes out and does request for you and so forth. Was even when
parents were asking to have their children's voice recordings deleted and remind people when you
use something like Alexa, it has to listen to you because that's how it
waits for you to say the wake word and kick it into action, right,
And by default it's doing some basic recordings because if you talk to it,
it has to send your command off to their servers, so that's going
to be at least recorded for some short period of time. So when people
say that all sounds crazy, I mean it has to work that way,
right. But the issue was people were going in and saying that they wanted
to delete this data out of there, and even though Amazon said you could
do that, they weren't actually deleting it, and they claimed that they were
keeping it to train their AI algorithms and things of that nature, you know,
to improve the capabilities of these devices. So you know, sadly,
Gary, Jeff, we see this kind of thing all the time with these
tech companies, in particularly when it involves these Internet of things or so called
smart devices. Well, and we talked, gosh years ago, Dave,
about how we'd never allow one of those things in our houses for the very
reasons that are spelled out in this slap on the risk fine for Amazon.
Google is about to pay another poultry. So I guess for Google ninety three
million dollars over alleged location privacy deceptions. I'm not even sure I know what
that is, but maybe you do. Well, Gary, Jeff, I'm
glad you brought this one up too, because it's a very similar kind of
thing, and you know, in keeping with the theme. And you know,
while I am certainly no luddite, as you know, I've spent you
know, thirty years into business, twenty five years as a software engineer building
stuff like this. You know. My issue with all of these things are
people don't really understand what they're signing up for. They don't read the terms
of service, and if they do again you'll hear terms. They use these
terms before, like privacy washing and dark patterns. Right, they say one
thing and do another. That's the privacy washing piece, claim their privacy friendly
and so forth, claim that you can delete stuff and that sort of thing,
and then can't and or be they use dark patterns an important term which
is getting out in the public mind space more and more, I think,
which is they make it difficult for you to do things that are in your
own self interests like turn off location tracking, turn off voice recording, and
that sort of thing. Like you know, you go in and if you
can even find the settings at all, they make it, you know,
give you lots of warnings like, well, it's turn this off and this
thing is going to happen, and nothing is going to happen. You won't
be able to fully utilize the service, and that sort of thing, so
so typical. In this case, Google said that you could go in and
delete location data that's been collected by their devices. So for examples, think
if you have an Android based phone, whether it's a Google hardware phone like
a Pixel or a Samsung phone, if it has Android on it, you
could go in and you turn off the location tracking and basically they say they
will not track you. But we found out that they were actually doing that
anyway. So again here's some direct language from the complete against Google that led
to this fun quote. For years, Google promises users but if they turned
off the quote location history unquote setting, then Google would not store their location
data. The complaint said it made its promise explicit and career language on the
help page for location history that left no room for ambiguity. Yet if you
went and it turned it off, they didn't get rid of the data is
essentially the bottom line, So you know, it's just one more example where
and I'm not always I'm not sure Gary Jeff that in every case this stuff
is being done maliciously. In some cases, I think it's just probably human
error software bugs. Again, these systems are large and complex, so again,
while I think some of it is done by design, don't get me
wrong, I don't think it's always done by design. I think sometimes it's
just bugs, mistakes, or dark patterns, so people don't really understand what
it's telling you. But it's unfortunate and again one of the reasons why I'm
not a big fan of Google and generally encourage people to stay away from Google
as much as they can. Artificial intelligence, according to the Signals Meredith Whittaker
is a surveillance technology. Basically explain this, Yes, yeah, Meredith Whittaker
is a very interesting person and for those who are interested in privacy and sort
of the state of technologies or pertains to v to see, she's someone that's
worth keeping an eye on. She's very smart. She's the CEO at Signal
for those who aren't familiar. Signal is an end to end encrypted messaging app
and generally within the tech world is sort of renowned. Is probably the most
secure messaging app out there. It's one of the ones that's snowed in.
Like and she was recently speaking at a conference, and she has a great
quote here quote And the use of AI is also surveillant. Right, you
know, you walk past the facial recognition camera that's instrumented with pseudoscientific emotion recognition,
and it produces data about you, right or wrong, that says you're
happy or sad, you have a bad character, you're a liar, whatever.
These are ultimately surveillance systems that are being marketed to those who have power
over us, generally our employers, government's border control, etc. To make
determinations and predictions that will shape our access to resources and opportunities. Unquote.
So I couldn't possibly have said it better than her. And it's not just
the fact that you have now increasing surveillance everywhere. It's being coupled with all
kinds of AI that's supposedly, as she said, can you gauge your mood?
Can gauge if you might have some sort of bad intent, has facial
recognition to try to identify you, which is continued to be proven to be
not very good, especially in minority community. So yeah, there's a lot
of problems with this stuff. And the point she really drives home for me
is that idea again, let's read it from her, these are ultimately surveillance
systems being marketed to those who have power over us, generally our employer's,
government's border control, etc. So yeah, it's people need to wake up
to this stuff and realize that while there a lot of this technology is obviously
very cool and brings a lot of great conveniences and pros to our society,
there's an enormous amount of downside to a lot of this stuff. And the
further of the genie gets out of the bottle, the harder it will be
to wind this stuff back if and when it either a goes bad or b
is not you in ways that are in alignment with freedom and liberty and you
know, general American principles. So yeah, it's it's a big concern.
And again I think she's spot on and is constantly talking about these sort of
things, So she's a good person to follow. Okay, Meredith Whittaker at
Signal. Dave Hatter is our guest on this first nightcap of the new season
on seven d W l W and one more for you, And this is
something you have, you and I've gotten into in depth discussions about over the
last now six months or so. It's been a thing longer than that,
but it really really is coming on now. Packer deep fakes employees voice and
phone call to breach an IT company. So we've talked about deep fakes in
video and with our image and deep fakes with audio. Now it's actually being
used and it's popping up more and more. Is it not that ass?
Correct? Eric? Yeah, I can tell you from firsthand experience playing with
him. You can right now go online do a search. I wouldn't use
Google, I'd use ut Go or start page or another privacy friendly search engine.
But do a search and find online tools that will allow you to clone
a voice with as little as three seconds of audio. Use these seven seconds
of more works better, and they'll typically give you a sentence to read.
You read the sentence, it copies your voice. It then trains its voice
model on that, and then you can type something in and it will say
it in that voice. So people will say, well, gosh, how
is someone going to get my voice to cleone my voice? Well, my
first question to him as always, do you currently have voicemail? Is there
a voicemail on your cell phone, your work phone, your home phone that
has you talking? Because if the answer is yes, I can call your
phone number, record your voicemail and in about thirty minutes or less, with
no previous experience and at no cost. I'm you I've actually done this myself
firsthand, so this is not speculation on my part. I know that it's
absolutely possible. And the story you read, and let me give you another
headline that ties into it. This is from the New York Post from this
week. Gambers use artificial intelligence to beg New York City parents for fifteen thousand
dollars by mimicking their child's voice. Again, if you have anything posted on
social media with your voice, video, audio, whatever, If you have
voicemail, if you have you know, if you're out in a public eye,
whatsoever. The possibility of me getting your voice is very easy, are
very good, and then it's simply a matter of finding one of these tools
em plugging get in once it's trained. Literally, I can sit at a
keyboard and type in what I want you quote unquote to say, and it
will do it. And you know the first story you brought up, So
in this case as part of an elaborate attack, and we often see this,
and in factary, Jeff, before I forget, there's a story all
the way back in twenty nineteen, when deep fakes flash synthetic media, we're
really starting to get a lot of attention, but weren't really seen out in
the wild like they are being now. A bank in the UAE had thirty
five million dollars stolen to an elaborate scheme that involved fishing and some other typical
cybersecurity attacks, but one of the angles of the attack was a voicemail was
left authorizing the transfer of funds that appeared to be for one of the bank
directors. So this is not new, but it's become a lot more prevalent
because the tools are much easier to use and are readily available at no cost
to anyone. So yeah, I mean, we're seeing these things crop up
and I just cannot stress enough to people. You simply cannot believe your ears
or eyes anymore. If you get a voicemail, and in fact, in
that New York Post story I was talking about, it appears from what I
can tell, that they were having to some extent a real time conversation.
Now, I have not seen any AI that's capable at this point of doing
a real time conversation with someone of some one else's voice. You know,
typically you have to train the model and type in what you want to say.
Now, could someone be sitting there typing and that would be a red
flag, right if there's a weird pause when you're quote talking to someone that
you think is them, that pause might be the bad people typing in what
they want to AI to say. But my point is if you want to
maintain your sanity and your money, we are now at a place you literally
cannot believe anything you see or hear, and you really have to go out
a band. You have to figure out how to go confirm that it's legit
because these tools are readily available, and as if you just do a simple
search, you'll find many examples now of actual fraud and involves voice clearning.
It's crazy and kind of terrifying. Well, you know, it's really especially
terrifying. You say it's easy as going to somebody's voicemail greeting and you've got
your voice. But think about all of the hours of digital audio there are
of me, of you from all of your is on fifty five Kresy,
which, by the way, Davis on every Friday morning at six thirty does
a lot of TV spots as well talking about this stuff. And think about
forty three years of audio that I've been responsible for generating. And you know,
I'm I'm cooked. If anybody wants to deep fake me, I'm done.
There's no way to prevent it. I don't think I think you're right,
because I mean, right now, I could go to the seven hundred
ww website, find a podcast, download that podcast, put some audio out
of it. Again, it takes a very small amount on average, and
you know, within a matter of minutes. Now, let's be honest,
Scary jet like the free tool I used. It wasn't perfect, but it
was very good. I also had no previous experience and only played with it
for about thirty minutes. Right. You know, if you had access to
a tool that you could continue to work on, or perhaps something that's in
a government lab that's not available to the public, you know, I'm pretty
sure you could get close to perfection something that there's no way to the naked
ear you would ever know, isn't that person other than again, like in
a real time type of situations, weird pauses while someone is typing in what
it's going to say or something like that. But I'm also very concerned that
even if there is nothing out there that could respond in a more or less
real time conversation like we're having right now, it's coming soon, so they'll
actually be able to fake deep fake an entire conversation. If that is not
available yet, and I haven't seen anything that says it is, I'm sure
we're less than a year or two away from that. Well, just because
we don't know about it doesn't mean that it doesn't already exist in you and
I talked about that numerous times as well. Dave Hatter, thanks for helping
kick off this nightcap all right, always my pleasure. Thanks for having me
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