WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:08.359 Touchdown, Bengals. It's East Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio 2 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:13.160 Network, brought to you by Acre Paycor is proud to be the official HR 3 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:19.440 software provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. Alta fiber future proof fiber Internet designed to 4 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:23.920 elevate your home, business, and community to a new level. Kettering Health, 5 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:28.879 best Care for the Best Fans. Kettering Health, Official healthcare provider of 6 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:37.240 the Cincinnati Bengals. You're listening to the Bengals Radio Network. All right, 7 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:39.560 let's get it go on on this Monday night. It's Bengals Line. We're 8 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.799 on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network at seven hundred WLW. Glance Pacallister, 9 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:46.359 Dave Lapple. We've got three hours to sort through tonight. Man, 10 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.320 We've got a lot to deal with. We'll hear from coaches, players and 11 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:53.119 more current players former players. Let's get to it. I'm Lance Pacallister, 12 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:56.640 He's Dave Lappwham and Dave, let's reset. Since last week talked and you 13 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.039 go back to Thursday night and I think when everybody saw Joe Winz on the 14 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:03.319 sidelines with a throw attempt, everybody had that feeling in their stomach like, 15 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.599 uh oh, this is not good and we've since learned it it's not. 16 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.000 But it's the reality is it's life in the NFL. There's still seven games 17 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:14.280 to go, and this, no matter how you slice it, this is 18 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.560 still a damn good roster. It is. It's a good football team. 19 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:23.280 And I think Jeff Browning is a guy that understands what his role is in 20 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:26.760 bottom line, it's don't screw it up. I mean, that's the thing. 21 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:32.799 I think a quarterback in his situation, the biggest challenge for him is 22 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:37.480 going to be all right, make sure I take advantage of opportunities to present 23 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:41.599 themselves, but don't put the ball in jeopardy. And there's a fine line 24 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:44.280 there, there's a balancing act there. You know, you don't want to 25 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:48.239 cost your team a possession, you don't want to give any extra possessions to 26 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:52.200 the opponent. But it's like, if you're too hesitant in that regard, 27 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:57.000 now you're not aggressively making plays that you feel like you can normally make. 28 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:01.040 And I think that Jake Browning has a good feel for where that line is 29 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:05.920 already. I really believe that. I think he's played a lot of football 30 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.560 and he's played at a high level and a very successful level. At a 31 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:13.039 high level. I mean he was, you know, the man in high 32 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.479 school. He still gut records that that he's set in the high school level. 33 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:21.840 And he was player of the year, you know, in high school 34 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:24.479 as junior and senior year in that state of California. I mean the guy. 35 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:29.560 He was six in the Heisman Trophy voting as a sophomore in college. 36 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.159 This guy, this guy put up ridiculous numbers. He knows how to play 37 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.039 the game of football at the quarterback position. And I think I think he's 38 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.120 got his teammates trust and confidence. I really do. And as for Joe, 39 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:43.560 we'll hear from Joe Burrow a little bit later on. We'll hear from 40 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:46.919 Brian Callahan and talk more about it coming up in later on in this hour. 41 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:52.280 But it'd be impossible not to feel for Joe Burrow for what he's already 42 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.960 had to come through and to get into that groove coming out of the calf 43 00:02:55.000 --> 00:03:00.520 and they win four straight and now it's back to more rehab and the challenges 44 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.560 that come with that mentally and physically. And you know what impressed me when 45 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.039 it happened and when I thought about it, and then the next day when 46 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:12.319 I thought about it again, he knew, I mean he felt and heard 47 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.319 the pop. He knew it was bad. He couldn't grip the football, 48 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.800 he couldn't throw the football, so he knew. What did he do? 49 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:22.759 Did he cry in his beer? Did he bow his head on the sideline? 50 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:24.680 Did it was like poor me, let's have a pity party for Joe 51 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:30.639 Burrow? Hell no, just the opposite. So he showed me the character 52 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:35.560 that I know he has, and he showed it in spades. How he 53 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:40.120 handled that whole thing. I mean, his poise in that total scenario was 54 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:45.919 remarkable, remarkable, And you know, he went in and had pictures, 55 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:47.400 you know, and he knew what the outcome was going to be. I'll 56 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:51.840 guarantee you he knew. I mean, he knows his body better than anybody, 57 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:54.199 and the fact that he could go back in that football game was killing 58 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:58.360 him. But when you look in his face, it's a poker face. 59 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:02.800 Man. He never showed any different look, no matter what emotion he's experiencing. 60 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:08.680 And I think that's one of the big things that makes him the player 61 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:14.599 he is. He handles every single situation, whether it be adversity, whether 62 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:18.319 it be success, whether it be whatever it is, even keel steady Eddie, 63 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:24.319 and he just his preparation is that way, his execution is that way. 64 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:28.600 I mean he is behind in that regard big time. He has over 65 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.040 the course of his career made plays and lifted this team up when they needed 66 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:35.560 it. Now fifty plus guys have to rally and lift up Jake Browning when 67 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:39.160 they need I love it what Joe Mixon. And there's a reason Joe Mixon 68 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:43.199 is a captain and so respected. He talked to the team and it kind 69 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:46.000 of rallied him. Well, he wasn't willing to talk publicly about what he 70 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.319 said, and we understand that. But I just like the fact that guys 71 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:53.279 realize moments and stuff up and say, hey, we're going to we're going 72 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:55.439 to take care of this, We're going to rally around this. And that's 73 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.680 exactly the mentality you need. Yeah, I mean, it's like, we 74 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:01.319 know what Brownie can do, we know the kind of guy he is. 75 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:05.600 He's been around here for three years. This offense gone has gone through some 76 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:11.680 evolution process, some changes. He's been a part of that entire process. 77 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:15.399 It's not like you're you're bringing in a guy off the street who has to 78 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.759 unlearn and re learn terminology and and go out there and and and try to, 79 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:23.160 you know, piece it together and figure it out. This guy has 80 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:28.600 been there from Jump Street. So I think I think they're fortunate, you 81 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.240 know, in that regard, and I and I think he is gonna take 82 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:38.279 this opportunity and as a backup. It's it's a very very dicey position to 83 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:42.279 be in because you don't wish the wish injury on a starter who's one of 84 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:46.920 your best friends. And when that does happen, you know, you feel 85 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:48.480 sorry for him, but you can't wallow in it. You've got to go 86 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:55.319 play. And now your opportunity presents itself, Opportunity knocks and and honestly, 87 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.639 he can set up his career for the next decade. I mean, Jake 88 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.720 Browning plays well in this stretch of seven football games, not just the Bengals 89 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:05.480 watching, it's thirty one other teams that are watching, and you know, 90 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:12.959 he can make a huge statement and honestly, it can really change the ark 91 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.879 and the pathway of his career. There is a lot of outside noise obviously 92 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.519 that looks at this situation and says they're done, They're finished. All I 93 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:23.360 know is this, There's seven weeks left in the season. Is the schedule 94 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:27.040 ahead difficult, Yes, but they are a game back of the seventh playoff 95 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.040 spot right now, and that seventh spot is held by the team the Bengals 96 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.759 are playing at home this weekend in the Pittsburgh Steelers. There are opportunities. 97 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:39.600 Are there potholes along the way? Absolutely, But I'm saying this is no 98 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.839 disrespect to a team like the Carolina Panthers at one to nine. This team's 99 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.759 not the Carolina Panthers. Absolutely, And you look at it. The remaining 100 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:49.120 schedule is the toughest in the NFL. There's not one team that has a 101 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:55.000 losing record on that schedule. But look at the quarterback play Pittsburgh. Are 102 00:06:55.000 --> 00:07:00.240 they quarterback dependent? Hell no. Can Jake Browning play as well as as 103 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.920 the quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steels, Hell yes, they play him twice? 104 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:08.680 Jacksonville can't be great, and he has. He has moments of inconsistency, 105 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:11.720 There's no question about it. Which one are you gonna get? But if 106 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:15.519 he's playing at his top, at his highest level, he is unbelievable. 107 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:19.480 He's a specimen. Indianapolis, come on, you can compete with them at 108 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:23.920 the quarterback position. Minnesota, I mean they're going through it, oh Man 109 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:29.600 Dobbs, it can it can it can even out Kansas City. Yeah, 110 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.000 they got a pretty good player, Patrick Mahomes. I mean Cleveland. Honestly, 111 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:38.600 it's not I think Jake Browning. If if I'm coaching or I'm a 112 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.879 team and I'm like Jake, you know, just give us as good a 113 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.519 quarterback plays as the opponent's providing for us, and let us do the rest. 114 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:49.439 Don't try to do too much be Jake Browning, because that's good enough. 115 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:54.079 The quarterbacks were going against. You can play as well as those quarterbacks. 116 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:58.120 Let us go out there and and and perform at a higher level as 117 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:01.079 an offensive line, as a defensive line. And we talked about it last 118 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.680 week. If you're going with a mindset, they get paid two. But 119 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:07.519 if I win more of my one on one battles than the guy I'm going 120 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.079 against, and everybody in your group does, now sitting your unit wins and 121 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:15.959 you start going unify unit, everybody starts winning, and all of a sudden, 122 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.279 if you get an even Stephen play at the quarterback position, You're fine, 123 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.800 You're gonna win football games. You can't put it all on Jake Browni's 124 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.959 shoulders. Absolutely not. But you know, if everybody does a little, 125 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:30.000 nobody has to do a lot. As the old saying goes Taby. Yesterday, 126 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:33.240 the Browns won with Dorian Thompson Robinson. The Giants one with Tommy DeVito. 127 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:39.080 Last week the Bears won with Tyson Badgent who's won twice now. Gardner 128 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.919 Minshew the Colts has three wins this year. Josh Dobbs of the Vikings has 129 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:46.840 won. Aidan O'Connell a the Raiders has won twice. Will Levis won a 130 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.840 game coming off the backup role for the Titans. Zach Wilson's won three games 131 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.440 with the Jets. There's a smattering and a dotting on the landscape of backup 132 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:56.320 quarterbacks who have won this year. It's not impossible. Well, and the 133 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:00.879 way it is in the NFL, I think it's forty four quarterbacks have already 134 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:05.720 started games, forty four and there's you know, over a third of the 135 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:11.360 season's left. So man, I mean that's you have. You have twelve 136 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:16.799 teams that have had or I guess probably some teams have had some teams have 137 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.600 had as many as three quarterbacks already play this season, but I mean forty 138 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:28.000 four quarterbacks. It's just a statement on the insecurity of that job. How 139 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.559 difficult it can be to stay healthy on a week to week basis. And 140 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.039 you gotta you gotta have somebody, You gotta have somebody else. And I 141 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:39.720 think the Bengals feel comfortable with Jake Brown and they feel like he can play. 142 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:45.080 And I really believe that he can. Going to Baltimore in that environment 143 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:50.480 and going into the football game in that situation, you couldn't be thrown into 144 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.519 a tougher scenario. You just couldn't. It's impossible. And how did he 145 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.080 do? He stepped up? I mean he played, He played solid, 146 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.879 solid well. He rushed for forty yards, he threw for over sixty, 147 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:07.039 He had his first NFL touchdown pass. I mean, he didn't turn the 148 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:13.440 football over. All those things are very positive scenarios. I'll guarantee you it's 149 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.840 going to be a lot easier environment for him at pay Corps than it was 150 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.720 over Baltimore. Man, where the crab cakes are flying. All right, 151 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:26.080 hangtig We've only just begun. We've got so much to get to tonight. 152 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:28.360 Over the course at three hours, we'll talk with coaches, we'll talk with 153 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.080 former Bengals as well. We're adding it to the mix tonight. Very excited 154 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.519 all of that to make our way through over the next three of Bengals Line. 155 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:41.039 We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. 156 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.080 Let's keep moving along on this Monday night. Thanks for being with us and 157 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:50.240 hanging out for three hours at Bengals Discussion. The show is Bengals Line. 158 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.360 We do it on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. 159 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.279 I'm Lancemcallister. He is Dave Lapham and Lance's time to make the Right 160 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.840 Call. Brought to you by Blake Maslin. It's the feature presented by law 161 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:07.120 officers of Blake Maslan and I thought a brilliant call was the very first play 162 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.279 for Jake Browning comes into the football game first and ten on the Bengals twenty 163 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:16.399 five yard line in the second quarter, and they go with two tight ends, 164 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:20.399 load up the formation like it's going to be a big power run look, 165 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.279 and it worked. They ran like an outside zone to the right side 166 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:30.480 the entire defense and all the linebackers flowed that way and out on a naked 167 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.559 boot leg comes Jake Browning. Now, the defensive end did a pretty good 168 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.360 job at containing Jake Browning, though I had plenty of time and plenty of 169 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.480 space to throw a completion down the football field to Trenton Roamin for twelve yards. 170 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:43.320 So not only was it a great call, but I thought it sent 171 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:50.000 a very positive message to the Bengals. We're staying aggressive. The very first 172 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.919 play that Jake brown is in there, we're moving, changing the launch point, 173 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.919 getting out of Parker. We're throwing the football down the football field, 174 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:01.000 telling your football team and telling the Baltimore Ravens defensive football team, We're not 175 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:05.840 going to curl up in a ball and run the ball to death and say 176 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.879 you know so much for this football game. We're still coming after you. 177 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:13.240 And I thought that that was a great move by Zach Taylor. Zach kicked 178 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.000 off the week earlier today meeting with the media talking about Joe Burrow and Jake 179 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.159 Browning and injuries in the Steelers. Here, Zach Taylor surgery. You'll have 180 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.840 a date second, Zach, Is there a way? I mean, I 181 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.600 know you guys are still gathering information. But say you guys were able to 182 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:31.799 make make it to the postseason, would he be able to come back in 183 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:39.080 the postseason? I would not think so. Are y'all still as a kind 184 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:45.600 of information gat the process on record? Yes? How much have you seen 185 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:50.080 down here days today? I mean players weren't in this weekend, but today 186 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:56.960 I saw him on everything we did from routing against Baltimore that you founds particularly 187 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.919 encouratious. Well, the first one is a tough one. You know, 188 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.559 it's a naked to your left the throat to Trenton Irwin. That was good, 189 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.279 good awareness. You know, even even the third down one to Trenton 190 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.720 Irwin that they ended up overrolling. I thought it was a really good throw. 191 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:11.720 They're in the two minute drive at the end of the first half, 192 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:16.559 So those were some oppressive plays that he made, some of the scrambles he 193 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:18.759 made to extend some plays. So I was very encouraged with how he played. 194 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.440 Obviously, the job at the quarterback has to go win the game for 195 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.559 us, But I know that everybody's got a lot of confidence in Jake and 196 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.039 excited watch him play as he developed. You know, what has even than 197 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.960 what we being except for him, Well, I think he's just always prepared 198 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.039 himself. You know, the things that happened during the week, the protection 199 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:41.159 meetings, all that kind of stuff. That's there's always more to playing quarterback 200 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:45.679 than just completing the ball. And that's one thing I've I've certainly had a 201 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.559 lot of confidence in Jake as you just watch him prepare to be the starter 202 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.799 all week. The calmness, the confidence in him. Again I mentioned this 203 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.639 earlier, just to go on the road on a Thursday night, short week, 204 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:01.919 tough environment and have the poise that he had show is that that you 205 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:03.039 know, we can have that confidence in him because he was ready for that 206 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:09.200 moment. Like his arm strength, people might undergrade a little bit and then 207 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.279 as Steve from Linebackers Latin to danglesus who Jake ran right behin him, I 208 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.159 mean a little bit faster and they might think, yeah, he's got good 209 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.799 game speed. You know, it's I don't know what his forty time is, 210 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:20.960 but some guys just have that that awareness of that knack for making plays 211 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.960 out there with their legs, and you saw that from Jake Cotton the preseason. 212 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:26.120 Those were really the opportunities he got. You saw it show up the 213 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:30.320 other night the quarterback's job is to get the ball in the end zone and 214 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.159 move the team, and and I thought Jake, Jake's got that ability to 215 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.159 do that for us. A big part of it, Zach also is commanding 216 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:39.879 the offense, commanding teammates. When you were in the huddle and cut, 217 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:43.240 some of the guys inside said, that's what you know has really really impressed 218 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.000 them in the preseason when he asked, no question. You know, he's 219 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.679 been here a long time. He knows all the ends and ask the quarterback 220 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.360 as well as as well as all the other guys we've ever had come through 221 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.360 here, and so excited to watch him get out there and compete. I'm 222 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:01.080 sorry just to quick follow, what is the key to command in offense? 223 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.679 Well, full ownership and what you're doing, you know, first of all, 224 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:05.679 So if you're in there and guys got to feel that you don't maybe 225 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.639 have full command over what's being asked to you, then it's hard for them 226 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:15.039 to to respond maybe when you're asking some of them. So what Jake has 227 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:18.159 got is a full command of what we wanted this offense, the intent of 228 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:20.240 everything we're doing, full command at his position. And so then when he 229 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.679 needs to talk to guys and ask for more. They know that he's he's 230 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:28.879 one hundred percent certain of what he's doing, then so guys will rally behind 231 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.240 that. And Jake certainly has those qualities. But I mean, yes, 232 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:37.080 I thank you. Uh, there's a lot of quarterbacks around here. That 233 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.639 there's a lot of quarterbacks around there. And I know it's only high school 234 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.840 when you guys have to look at his numbers and what he did at high 235 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.879 school. Absolutely yeah, I love looking at that kind of stuff, you 236 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.360 know, and certainly always been aware of that. The prolific high school career 237 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.120 he had, was was aware of him, you know, during his time 238 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.399 at Washington, and so yeah, it's I mean, those are things as 239 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:00.480 a as a kid who grew up playing quarterback, I was always searching every 240 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.399 website I could back in the late nineties, early two thousands of you know, 241 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.799 all those guys that set all those records, the Booty Brothers, the 242 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.480 Mocks, all of those got Chris Leek, all those guys. You're always 243 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.559 aware of those records setting and guys, and Jake is certainly in that category 244 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.919 of having a perfect clear over there in California. Know, each game tells 245 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:21.559 a different story, and let's how you guys are gay as coaches, But 246 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:25.879 did the long weekend allow you guys to maybe evaluate what's been going on in 247 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:30.919 terms of allowing as many explosive plays as we have in the last few games. 248 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.399 So it's certainly something we got to shore up. And sometimes that happens 249 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.840 with plays down the field, you're in one on one situations, and it's 250 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.879 it's not something that we want to have happen. I think our guys are 251 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.039 eager to kind of hit the reset, but not not necessarily hit the reset 252 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.600 button, but get refocused here as we played Pittsburgh, and it was good 253 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:51.840 to have that three day rest, extra three days for guys to get healthy 254 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:55.879 and respond the right way. And I love the attitude that we've had from 255 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:57.759 the guys in the building, the energy, and so I'm excited to watch 256 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:02.000 this team compete this week. How much of that also, Zach, is 257 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:06.240 you know we take for granted maybe that some of these young guys have gotten 258 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:10.960 thrown into the next like a DJ Turner, back Sales Cam Taylor Brett. 259 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:15.440 They're still relatively young secondary and sometimes they're growing thangs still. As that part 260 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.559 of it right now, well, I mean it's it's not everybody at this 261 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:19.720 point, you know, we're we're over the halfway point the season, so 262 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:25.119 everyone's expected to be up to the standard right now. And and again it's 263 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:29.440 we played played some really talented quarterbacks, some guys that are playing really hot 264 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:30.920 right now, you know, and and they had some explosives c. J. 265 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.440 Stroud and Lamar and those guys will test you. But it's up to 266 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:38.119 our guys respond and obviously on as a as an entire team. Right now, 267 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:41.960 these last two week especially, we haven't played up to the standard that 268 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.519 we've held ourselves to and so it'd be good good to get back to that 269 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.279 this week. Speaking of those young guys back there, did we see a 270 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.920 changing of a guard last week with Jordan Battle and coming in and just kind 271 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:53.359 of taking a nut job. I thought he made the most of his opportunities, 272 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.000 you know, And so we're going to continue to rely on everybody moving 273 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.920 forward. But Jordan did a great job. You saw him play a lot 274 00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:02.519 of snaps in this game. That's going to continue as we go forward. 275 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:04.480 So again, it's all about grabbing the opportunity that's in front of you, 276 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:07.079 and I think Jordan's done a good job of that. He's got to continue 277 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.039 to be consistent going forward. Zach meeting earlier today with the media hangtight, 278 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:15.000 there's more to get to. Brian callahand Bengals OC joins us next on Bengals 279 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:22.119 Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio network in seven hundred WLW. Let's 280 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:25.640 keep it rolling on this Monday night. It's Bengals Line. We're on the 281 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:30.160 first Star Logistics Bengals Radio network and seven hundred WLW. Lance butcallister, Dave 282 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.839 Blapham, Dave, welcome in. Our next guest. Our next guest, 283 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:40.680 Brian Callahan, Offensive coordinator, Cincinnati Bengals. Big challenge, no question about 284 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.119 it. I got to work with Jake Browning. I'm sure you guys have 285 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:47.799 been attached to the hip. We'll we'll talk about that. But if there's 286 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:52.119 anybody that I would choose to get a guy ready for his first NFL start 287 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.039 at the quarterback position, read this man right here. Brian Callahan, Thanks 288 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:02.119 Lapping seriously. I would no doubt he's been here for this organization for parts 289 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:03.880 of three seasons. You guys like him, obviously, What do you like 290 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:11.720 about him? He is a really intense competitor. First and foremost, he's 291 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.160 got a lot of pride in his craft. He's he's really done a nice 292 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:21.240 job growing over his time here. We've obviously invested time in him, and 293 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:23.599 I think that will be rewarded. You know, that's sort of the idea. 294 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:29.319 You know, he was a good college football player, and he's done 295 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:33.119 some really good things for us in limited action. I thought he came in 296 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:37.240 the game and did a nice job, truthfully, you know, and in 297 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:41.319 tough circumstances. And the biggest thing that I think you take away from a 298 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.920 moment like that when you're just trying to find traits, and you know, 299 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:52.000 guys walk in the huddle and players know whether or not, very very quickly, 300 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:55.799 whether or not a guy's up to the task. And I think the 301 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:57.240 minute he walked in the huddle, he's got the guys looked at him are 302 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:00.680 like, oh yeah, he's ready, Like there's no there was no waiver 303 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:06.720 he was. He's incredibly confident in his abilities. And I think that that 304 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:08.480 goes a long way. Just as you walk in the huddle the first time 305 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:11.200 in a game, everyone's looking at you how you're going to handle it? 306 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:15.720 And and I thought he passed that that initial test really well, So Jake's 307 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:19.200 really intelligent. He's got a great grasp of our system. And I think 308 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:23.160 that there's the silver lining is you're excited for a guy like him. You 309 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.680 know, you root for him, and you hope that you can put him 310 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:32.759 in great positions to be successful because he's he's earned that opportunity, UH to 311 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:36.720 be the guy that's kind to take over for Joe, And you know it's 312 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:40.400 up to us, offensively myself included, to to make sure that we put 313 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:42.799 him in the spot to have success. But man, just you look at 314 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:45.799 his story and how he's worked and grinded to get to this moment. I 315 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:49.559 think you'd be hard pressed if anybody who wouldn't be rooting for him to have 316 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:53.640 success. So I'm I'm excited about it. I'm excited about his opportunity and 317 00:20:55.000 --> 00:21:00.519 excited to help him have some success. You're you couldn't be more right. 318 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.599 I mean, I remember being in huddles where quarterback comes into the huddle and 319 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:08.119 it's like, you know, hard boiled egg's eyes and apprehensive is probably being 320 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:11.319 kind, and you know, you see we kind of look at each other 321 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.200 like crap, you know, and then and then in comes Turk shown another 322 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:19.400 example, Kenny goes down the year we go to the Super Bowl, Kenny 323 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:23.920 goes down, uh in the early in the season and Uh Turk comes in. 324 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:26.359 Guys, let's go, man, We're good, We're gonna win this 325 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:29.559 game. We're like, let's go, you know. I mean, it's 326 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.079 it's like night and day that way. And you do you start, you 327 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:33.799 get a feel right away for if a guy is up to the task, 328 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.119 like Paul Brown used to say, son, that's a little too big for 329 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:40.559 you, or if it's not too big for you, that's you know, 330 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.200 that's what you wanted to hear from him, obviously. But I mean, 331 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:45.799 this this guy at every level. I mean, and when he's a senior 332 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:49.440 in high school through ninety one touchdown passes in the season, joined in twenty 333 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:52.920 nine in a career in high school, what the heck? And then you 334 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.279 know, he goes to he goes to Washington thirty nine and fifteen to start, 335 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.680 he rushes for sixteen touchdowns. And that's the thing that impressed me. 336 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.200 As soon as he saw guys with their backs turned and man coverage, he's 337 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:06.759 he's running going for nineteen, going for I mean, you rush for forty 338 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:10.400 yards as the lineman. I'm like, he's my guy. Yeah, I 339 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.640 mean he's he's got a great feel as with the ball in his hands, 340 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:18.559 he's it's a sneaky scrambler. Yeah, he's He's always had that part of 341 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:21.160 his game. And you go back to watching him in Washington, he's you 342 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:22.240 know, he's made a lot of plays with his legs and that's going to 343 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:29.119 be a critical factor in playing quarterback in on any team in the NFL, 344 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:30.519 but certainly for us, that's going to be an added element. You know, 345 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:33.400 as as we saw when Joe got healthy, how much that makes it 346 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:36.799 kind of a first down or two. I was sure picked up that fourth 347 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:40.359 down in the last drive, and that's a huge part of playing NFL quarterback, 348 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:42.759 and he has that ability to do that. Do you have, have 349 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:48.160 you had or will you have conversations with him in terms of playbook wise, 350 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:49.480 what do you like, what do you not like, What are you comfortable 351 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:52.440 with? What should we throw out? What do we keep? Yeah, 352 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.039 you always do that with whoever's playing that game. And you know, I 353 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:59.799 think that the beauty of it for us is that he does play very similar 354 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:03.880 to Joe. Their style is similar, and I think he's over the years 355 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.480 that they've come to like a lot of the same things. There is definitely 356 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:11.599 a little like, you know, during the game even you know, you 357 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.079 go to him to go, hey, what do you like And sometimes guys 358 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:21.079 don't like that because they feel like you're baby in them or you're you know, 359 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:22.599 and Jake's response when you know, I think pictures asking a couple of 360 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.240 times, but he go, just call it, you know, just call 361 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:27.480 it, I got it, Just call it, And that's what you want 362 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:32.119 to hear. And then obviously over the course of the week you tailored the 363 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.160 likes and dislikes as you get to the game. But you know, Jake, 364 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:37.000 Jake prepares really well and he felt confident in the moment and that was, 365 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:41.000 you know, truthfully a good thing to see when he goes, no, 366 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:42.880 just I got it, just call it. I'll do I'll do it, 367 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:47.079 I got it. Don't worry about me, and and that's a that's 368 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:48.279 a good thing, that's a good trait to have. So yeah, we'll 369 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.279 tell her the game plan to his likes and we'll have we'll find ways to 370 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:53.839 to make sure he feels comfortable. But and then at the same time, 371 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:56.759 he's going to probably say the same thing. Like you guys, call what 372 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.480 you think needs to work, and I'll make it work. So that's a 373 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.160 good, good trait to have this quarterback. So I have Zach In the 374 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:04.839 post game, I said, did you have to do any shrinkage of game 375 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:08.839 plan, you know, because of the fact that hasn't had a whole lot 376 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.480 of snaps. No. No, he's responsible with the entire game plan. 377 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:15.640 You know, everything was on, everything was in play. We didn't we 378 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:19.359 didn't change anything. I did think though, that it was brilliant. The 379 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:23.119 first snap, you guys two tight ends, you know, play action, 380 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.720 naked boot, get him out of pocket. They bite, they flow, 381 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.440 they although you know, the contained guy did a decent job, made Jake 382 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.279 make a good throw, and Jake did. But I thought it was like 383 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.759 signal to Baltimore, we're staying aggressive. Signal to Jake, we're staying aggressive. 384 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:41.400 You know, execute that play. I thought it was a brilliant call. 385 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.440 I think that's where you have to land. I mean, we still 386 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:48.160 feel really good about our football team. Yeah, we have a really good 387 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.319 team. We have good players on offense and Jake's job is to get them 388 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:56.960 the ball. And I don't think you're gonna we won't shrink or shell up. 389 00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.720 I mean, we're still going to be an aggressive football team because we 390 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:03.599 feel like we have the ability to be. What that looks like for Jake 391 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.599 maybe a little different than what it was for Joe, but I don't we 392 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:07.920 were not going to take our foot off. We feel like we have a 393 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.960 team that could compete, and we feel confident in Jake's ability to execute, 394 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.359 and so we're gonna let him go do that. And you know, I 395 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:19.359 don't think you'll see us get overly conservative or We're going to play football the 396 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:23.319 way that that we think is the best to win a football game. And 397 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:27.920 and we're gonna let Jake go play football the way that he that he's going 398 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:30.039 to need to. And yeah, you know, we're not just gonna, 399 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.599 you know, hand the ball off fifty times and just punt and play defense. 400 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.119 That We're still going to go attack people on offense. I think that 401 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:42.119 that that's the way you should approach that one element of this offense. It 402 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.440 really seems to be coming on. He's taking advantage of opportunities. Tanner Hudson 403 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:49.359 has eighteen catches on twenty two targets. Seems to just keep getting better. 404 00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:53.279 Yeah, he's you know, tannern a veteran player that that's had a lot 405 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:56.960 of experience but hasn't had as much opportunity, and this is the system that 406 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:03.720 probably fits his past catching ability. Well. He's he's always shown a knack 407 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.799 for getting open, making plays on the ball. He's sure handed, he's 408 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.039 got his big bodied all the things that we liked about him coming out of 409 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:15.480 training camp. There's just always a trick with the roster spots at tight end 410 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.119 when you have to factor in the special teams, and there's the run blocking 411 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.200 portion, which he's actually done okay too, and you know, it's just 412 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.240 hard to get those numbers exactly right. But we knew he liked Tanner, 413 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.559 we knew he had ability to help us. Wasn't sure when that would come 414 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:36.039 up, And obviously he's he's taken a huge advantage of his opportunity and played 415 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.440 really well for us in some passing situations and made plays on the ball, 416 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.279 and he's he's doing everything that we saw him doing training camp, which is 417 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.519 which is good to see him translate those into the games. But I've been 418 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.119 really pleased with what he's brought for us in that position. At the tight 419 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.839 end position, done a really nice job. When I watch him, his 420 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:57.319 body language conveys two things to me, savviness and confidence. I mean, 421 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.000 he knows what the hell he's doing. I mean, he's just one of 422 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.920 those guys that's gonna he's gonna create a pick, even if the pick wasn't 423 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.160 supposed to be, you know, be created. He just seems to have 424 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.599 a knack for, Yeah, I can do this. I'm gonna do this 425 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:12.839 too, you know. And then he's very very confident in his abilities. 426 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.799 There's no question about that. Yeah, and he should be because he's played 427 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:19.680 He's played enough football in the NFL to earn some confidence. I And he's 428 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.039 played you know, he's been in a super Bowl. He's you know, 429 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.200 it's not like he's this is his first time doing it. And over the 430 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:29.960 years of experience, tight end is a position. I think over time, 431 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.279 it takes time to be get really comfortable doing all the things that tight ends 432 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.319 have to do. And so you see guys like him really start to grow 433 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.839 in that fourth, fifth, sixth year where they start to really become, 434 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.440 you know, more complete players. I think he's done a really nice job 435 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:48.519 taking all of his experiences he's had prior and then being able to help us 436 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.279 here, which has been been a good thing for our offense. So Pittsburgh's 437 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:57.720 defensive football team, I mean that that is where the rubber meets the road 438 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:02.359 with these guys'll run it. I mean they got they got a tandem of 439 00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:06.079 running back so that they're like six yards apart, I think in their four 440 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.759 hundred ninety nine yards on the ground to four ninety three nine ninety two yards 441 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:12.880 rushing between those two guys. So they'll they'll hammer it, and uh, 442 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:18.079 they'll take their opportunities when they present themselves offensively, but they're certainly far from 443 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:22.720 a jargonnaut offensively, but defensively they are a snoopful. Are they doing anything 444 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.799 differently or as the typical Mike Tomlin stuff? They they don't. They don't 445 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.920 veer too far from their identity. And they always have a wrinkler too, 446 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.200 because I think Teryl Austin's a really good coach. Obviously a ton of respect 447 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:40.119 for what Mike Tomlin's done over his career. They are synonymous with Pittsburgh to 448 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:44.039 me, has always been synonymous with defense. It's just it's like them in 449 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:47.920 Baltimore. It feels like those are the they've they've had the same defense for 450 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.480 what feels like two decades, and they just are always good and they're always 451 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.480 disciplined and well coached, and the scheme is good and the players are even 452 00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:57.880 better, and yeah, we gotta work it out for us. I mean, 453 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.640 it's a it's as good a front as any in football. I think 454 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:07.039 Alex Heismith has really come on as a as an edge rusher to compliment TJ. 455 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.160 You know, the linebackers are physical, They got young you know, 456 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:12.440 Joey Putter Jr. Is a young corner, and they got the Vet on 457 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:17.599 the other side of Patrick Peterson. Obviously not having Mincup hurts their defense, 458 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.359 but Minca is a fantastic player. Yeah, they got they got people all 459 00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:23.839 across the defense, and obviously the strength and the teeth of their defenses in 460 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:33.359 their front seven and their sharp teeth. They are you you know Joe you 461 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.279 know his makeup. I'll ask you what Zach was asking on Friday. Do 462 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.559 you have any worries about him dealing with the rehab and the injuries beating him 463 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.519 down mentally? You know, I don't. I just I think he's just 464 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.559 aware of That's the that's the position he plays, that's the that's part of 465 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.839 the sport. You know. I think he's you know, between injuries, 466 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.839 he's started fifty some games. It's not like you know, I mean, 467 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:02.480 he's it's unfortunate and and then the you have process mentally can be can be 468 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:07.920 grueling. Uh. This is a different style of rehab than say, like 469 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.079 an A. C. L. Sure, you know it's it's still it's 470 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.640 its own thing, but it's it's a different style. I mean, he'll 471 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.839 he'll be able to move and work out for the most part, I think 472 00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:21.920 pretty quickly, and then he'll progress into the throwing part whenever that timeline gets 473 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:25.200 gets set up. But yeah, I mean you always are concerned about guys 474 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.720 that that are constantly having to rehab. But you know, Joe's just he's 475 00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:33.720 so laser focused and he's so good at compartmentalizing everything and so that those are 476 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.559 that you don't worry about that part. He's just he takes it as it 477 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.000 comes and he goes to rehab and he'll be ready to go when it's time 478 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.200 to be ready to go, hopefully in the spring. So you know, 479 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.200 it is, it is what it is, and I think you you you 480 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.200 marvel at his mental toughness, and I do think he is different than a 481 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.400 lot of guys that have played the position. I think he's just he's an 482 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.160 exceptionally tough human being. And you always in the back your where there is 483 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:06.400 a mental part that can be a lot of weight. You feel the weight 484 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.440 at all. So but I don't worry about Joe in that regard. He 485 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.880 like I said, he's just one of the tougher guys you've ever I've ever 486 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.079 been around. So he just takes it as it comes and he moves on 487 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.680 to the next thing. It's it's pretty remarkable. I don't know if I 488 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:19.799 do voodoo or I don't know what I do, but i'd say, you 489 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.319 don't what football gods, somehow, I'm gonna intervene here with you. And 490 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:29.519 it's like there are there are guys that in the beginning of their career they 491 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:30.720 have a run where they're just gonna go get a bunch of injuries. The 492 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.640 other guys have a long career and then with a bunch of injuries at the 493 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:38.440 conclusion everything in between. I mean, it's just you can't you certainly can't 494 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.960 anticipate anything in that regard. He's going through a stretch though that Oh my 495 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.160 god, when are they gonna like let the I mean they've bitten in deep, 496 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:48.640 when they're gonna let the teeth go on? That? It's unbelievable. 497 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.119 Yeah, it's one of those things you don't you don't have any control over 498 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:53.440 and you do the best you can. But uh, you know, I 499 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.799 think a little bit back to that, how Matthew Stafford's career began. You 500 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.119 know, he he had a couple of injuries early on, and they you 501 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.200 know, he was questioned, is he is the injury prone? And then 502 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.480 he's you know, obviously he's one of the iron men at the position. 503 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:13.240 So I think those things just happen. Yeah, they're just there's their circumstances, 504 00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.400 just sort of the fate of whatever the the football guys decide. And 505 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:17.559 like I said, it'd be nice for him to be a little more friendly 506 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.400 to us, but that is what it is, no doubt. It just 507 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.160 hit me. I'm a little bit slow, and there's you shaved. I 508 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.720 did, Yeah, I did, just any particular reason, it comes and 509 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:32.319 goes, it grows back quick, don't worry. It's uh yeah, fresh 510 00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:36.799 start. You know, first seven weeks ago, ago and kind of get 511 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.119 got the weekend was good to reach arge and get a little bit of rest 512 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:42.920 and you know, wrap your mind around what the next seven weeks is going 513 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.480 to look like, and hopefully we can we can make a run out of 514 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.160 the plaoff because I still think we have a really good football team and and 515 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:52.400 we're going to play some good teams still. But you know, our expectations 516 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.880 is to go to go compete and win games. And that's I think that's 517 00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.519 everybody in the locker room's expectation. And we're not going to let an injury 518 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.880 derail that. Those those thoughts and feelings and our confidence in the group. 519 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:07.480 So everyone's got to sort of pick up their slack whatever that is for them 520 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.200 and whatever position. And Jake's got to play well and put in the position 521 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:13.599 to play well, and we're gonna go out and compete and try to win 522 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.119 football games. I mean, you see there's backup quarterbacks all around the league 523 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:20.680 winning games, so we should be no different. That's the expectation. Everybody 524 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.759 step up to do a little bit more, that's all, you know, 525 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.960 everybody do a little bit more. Good scene. You appreciate your time as 526 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.519 always, of course, happy to be here. When I reach Fewardy, 527 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.799 I'm going to grow a beard like you, Brian Callahan with us, everybody, 528 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:35.440 it's Bengals lout of the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred 529 00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.519 WLW. Hey, we're back on Bengals line in this Monday night. Thanks 530 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.480 for being here with us. We're making our way through that Ravens game, 531 00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.839 looking ahead to the Steelers as well. Bengals lot on the First Star Logistics 532 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:50.160 Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW Lance by Callister Dave Lepham and Lance. 533 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:53.559 It's time for the Kettering Health feature with the Injury Report, brought to you 534 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:59.640 presented by Kettering Health, the official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals and paid 535 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:06.240 course providing the best care for the best fans. And obviously everybody knows that 536 00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:10.760 Joe Burrow sustained a ligament tear in his wrist and he's going to have surgery 537 00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.920 and be out for the season. Sam Hubbard was deactivated again for the football 538 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:20.320 game with that ankle problem, so he's got a severe scenario going on with 539 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:22.679 I don't know at tendon, ligament or whatever in that ankle, or maybe 540 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.599 both who knows, but I think that he will be back for the Pittsburgh 541 00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.480 Steelers. I have a sneaky suspicion that's going to be the case. T 542 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:37.119 Higgins has got a scenario with that hamstring that is significant, and you know, 543 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.599 you look around the league there are guys that have been out for over 544 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:44.840 a month with hamstring problems. It all depends on the location of the hamstring 545 00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.800 pull and the severity. It's a two prong scenario. There Cam Taylor britt 546 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:54.079 quad injury, more of a quad bruise, he said. I saw him 547 00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:58.800 after the game. He said he'd landed on it and exacerbated the problem. 548 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.960 It's not a quad pull. It's a Charlie horse basically, is what it 549 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:06.000 boils down to. And so there's some swelling, some blood in air. 550 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.440 They have to get removed. Bj Hill hyper extended his need during the course 551 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:13.280 of the game. He came right back in the football game and Yosi vash 552 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.440 was down with a knee injury. And hopefully he's had enough time with the 553 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:20.679 mini buy and ten days between games to be able to go against Pittsburgh. 554 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.480 So let come play, and we're heading down the stretch in our first hour 555 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:28.519 of Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. 556 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.360 And down the stretch we go. Final segment of hour one. 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Visit Bengals dot com slash Coach of the Week. 572 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.320 Dave, kickoff our number two. I'll let you do the honors. 573 00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:52.199 You've done this once or twice, welcoming in a very special guest, very 574 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.679 special guest, not only a great football player, but an even greater human 575 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.159 being. What he's doing with his foundation for people in the in the community, 576 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:06.039 in the in the region, and it's a it's far reaching, it's 577 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.559 it's amazing. But he was an MVP of the National Football League in nineteen 578 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:14.920 eighty one when we went to Super Bowl sixteen, and I played at an 579 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.559 unbelievably high level, in my mind, as accurate a thrower as there ever 580 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.679 has been in the National Football League, bar none. Number fourteen in your 581 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:30.880 program, Number one in everybody's heart, mister Ken Anderson. Wow, Daves, 582 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:37.599 thank you. I guess, I guess all those nights have given your 583 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:43.760 back massage right off. Yeah, you know I never expected that. That's 584 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.559 good. That's good. Uh can he take us back to uh Thursday night 585 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:51.559 when you saw Joe Winz trying to throw in the sidelines, then hear the 586 00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.639 news on Friday? How does it hit you? What's going through your mind 587 00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:59.840 as you process all this? Well? Just heartbroken, you know. I 588 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.880 mean once he came and you saw the shout of the sideline, you know, 589 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:06.079 trying to throw a ball, he could even grip it, it just 590 00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:09.679 dropped out of his hands. You knew something was seriously wrong because you know 591 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:14.519 this guy is is as tough as they get, you know, and and 592 00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:16.760 little things he just fights his way through. But you could tell this was 593 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:21.960 something more. Yeah, no question about it. So, I mean, 594 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.400 you were in a situation where you had an injury to your right index finger 595 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.760 and turk showing. It came in as a as a backup quarterback, You've 596 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.920 seen what backup quarterbacks have to do to stay ready, you know, in 597 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.599 your playing career, plus as a coach, you've been in situations where you've 598 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:44.599 had to get backup quarterbacks ready to go play in a football game. What's 599 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:46.719 the secret, sauce K, Is there any secret sauce, what's the what's 600 00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:51.840 the what's the give us, give us some scoop here. Well, well, 601 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:53.800 first of all, it wasn't my index finger. I broke my hand. 602 00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:58.559 It was back in the back of the hand between my fingers and my 603 00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.719 wrist that yeah, you know, and had it operated on. And uh, 604 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.440 you know it's supposed to be about a six week deal. And if 605 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.679 you remember, that happened in the last preseason game up in Milwaukee, playing 606 00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:14.840 Green Bay. And uh, you know, we had come off you know, 607 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:16.719 two years with Tiger Johnson, going down to the last game of the 608 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:20.760 year, whether we're in the playoffs or not. And so we know we 609 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.880 had high aspirations and you know, all of a sudden this happens, and 610 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:30.760 you know, we started off zero to four, and gosh, rumors are 611 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.119 flying that the Tiger's job is on the line. And and I went in 612 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.639 the week, you know, before a fifth game, we went out to 613 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.800 San Francisco. I told the trade, I said, cut the cast off 614 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:45.280 on playing, and you know it wasn't ready to and had no strength in 615 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:46.639 it. So this is going to you know, take some time for Joe. 616 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:51.719 But you know there's any you know, secrets. Uh, you know, 617 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.079 to it that what you can do. I mean, I think these 618 00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.840 guys, they got a great, great quarterback room, a very good quarterback 619 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:02.840 coach, a good coordinator, a head coach that's quarterback friendly. And what 620 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.760 you do is you taylor the game plan to his strengths. And you know, 621 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:13.880 I remember, probably the one of the best things is we were playing 622 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:19.840 when I was with the Steelers. We're playing, We're going into a night 623 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:23.199 game, a Monday night game, I believe with Baltimore, and you know, 624 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:28.320 a lot writing on that game. And Roethlisberger was out with a concussion, 625 00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.079 and then Charlie Batcher gone, and he's out with a concussion. So 626 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:36.920 we had a third string rookie, Dennis Dixon that we went in and you 627 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.719 know, we were kind of featured what he did and and had it not 628 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:44.960 been for you know, a fourth and twenty completion that sent the game into 629 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.719 overtime, you know, we win that game. Of course, we got 630 00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:50.880 beat by a field goal with overtime. But you know, I think the 631 00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:55.199 big thing is, don't ask him to do what Joe does. You know, 632 00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.360 there are two different guys, and you know, and and the nice 633 00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.519 thing, but I mean he showed promises, you know, in the preseason, 634 00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:06.159 and you know, he did some good things last week. So I 635 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:09.320 mean, this guy had an unbelievable college career and a believable high school career 636 00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:14.000 and the guy can play, you know. But just like I say, 637 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.400 you know, I think one of the big things is talking what's your best 638 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.679 of what do you what do you like? You know, and here's the 639 00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:21.960 game plan and the things that we like in this game. You know, 640 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.800 what are your favorites, and let's kind of go with those things. Yeah, 641 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:28.719 Kenny, be one thing if you lose a stud quarterback on a bad 642 00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.320 roster, but this is losing Burrow on a still a super Bowl caliber roster 643 00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:36.280 with with a running game and Joe Mixon who they ran well and for those 644 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.159 who want him to run more, maybe an opportunity to lean into the running 645 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:43.199 game now well, no question, which leads into the play action game. 646 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:45.920 And you know, you talk about, you know, the talent on this 647 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:51.440 team offensively, you know, let's design some things that get the ball in 648 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.000 their hands and we got to rely on these guys to step up and make 649 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.280 plays. Now, you know, they're they're getting paid a lot of money, 650 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.920 you know, to make plays as well, and they've got the certainly 651 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.159 the talents to do it. Now let's try to get the ball in their 652 00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.400 hands. Let them do something with it. Yeah, it's interesting. The 653 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.039 very first snap for Jake Browning after Joe you know, can't come back in 654 00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.719 the football game, he throws the touchdown pass to mix and to give the 655 00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.480 Banks a lead. But he can't. He can't come back. The next 656 00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:21.320 series and at their own twenty five yard lines, that comes out two tight 657 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:23.480 ends on the same side of the formation, right next to each other, 658 00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:30.639 puts Browning under center, and now Baltimore say, here comes the run play 659 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.840 action fake. You know, they run the outside zone to the right, 660 00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:37.119 naked bootleg to the left. He throws the ball twelve yards down the field 661 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:38.719 to Trenton Irwin and it's like great call. Great that. You know, 662 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:42.480 you're thinking, yeah, man, go under center with multiple tight ends, 663 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:45.320 they're gonna run it. And now it's like, hey, Baltimore, now 664 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.159 then we're not folding our tent. We're starting aggressive. And it's a message 665 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.639 to Jake, Jake, we believe in you were staying, we're gonna throw 666 00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:53.119 the football, We're gonna we're gonna let you do your thing. I mean, 667 00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:58.679 I think all that's all that's real positive too, and that I agree 668 00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.199 with you, k. I mean, the players trust and believe in Jake 669 00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:04.920 Brownie. He's been around for three years, you know. Oh yeah, 670 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.800 it's one of those things where they know all about this guy. Well, 671 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:12.840 you know, they know him. They watch him practice, they watch what 672 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.840 he does on the scout team, yep, they watch how he prepares for 673 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.039 a game, how he's ready to go in. Uh, you know, 674 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.480 his input with with Joe on the sideline. So yeah, I don't think 675 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.719 there's anybody in the team that the doubts that he can come in and do 676 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.400 it. Now, you know that being said, everybody's got to pick their 677 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.639 game up just a not you know, we needs just that that half more 678 00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.159 second from the offensive line, you know, to get the ball off. 679 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.000 We need you know, just that a little bit more in the running game, 680 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.840 so we can you know, we can lean on that a little bit 681 00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.679 more heavily, you know. So like I say this, and and then 682 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:50.079 now the defense, I mean, we can't be gashed, you know by 683 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.079 certain plays either. Now, you know, we gotta we got to step 684 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.559 it up. Let's get back you know where we're holding the team, you 685 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:58.159 know, to a to a touchdown or something like that. They give us 686 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.320 a chance to win the game. Theyingles Steelers now and how I view that 687 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:07.400 rivalry has forever changed since you told the story many many years ago of Bengals 688 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:12.840 Steelers, you the shower and Beers. Could you relate the story of having 689 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:17.079 Beers in the shower with Steelers? Well, it was if it was nineteen 690 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:20.480 seventy nine, and Dave, I think you'll agree with you. That was 691 00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.000 the worst Bengals team I was ever on. Oh god, we were not 692 00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:29.000 very good. And the Steelers came into Cincinnati seven and zero and we were 693 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.000 zero and seven, and I think we beat them thirty four to ten. 694 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:36.840 They didn't cross midfield until the fourth quarter. Chuck Nole told him after the 695 00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:37.920 game, if I didn't know you guys better, I thought you're through the 696 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:44.159 game. Well we're We're in in Pittsburgh later on in the season and we're 697 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.400 getting some pretty good and it's in the fourth quarter and Joe Green sacks me. 698 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:52.400 Again. It wasn't Lapham's guy, you know, there was somebody else. 699 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:53.360 But he's laying on top of him and he says, Kenny why don't 700 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:58.079 you come into the locker room for beer after the game. And at the 701 00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.159 old Three Rivers Stadium at that time, the life walking right next to each 702 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.920 other, and so I showered, quickly grabbed my bag. I walk into 703 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:07.159 the locker room with the first guy you see was Bradshaw doing his media interviews, 704 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.480 and he stopped the interviews and took me in the back of the locker 705 00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:12.960 room and they turned off their sound. I had a garbage can full of 706 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.000 beer in it, and it clears off a couple of seats for me, 707 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.960 him and me in the front. Roy Kenny's with me, and we have 708 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:21.639 two or three beers, and I'm feeling better about life, and until I 709 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.679 go out to catch the buses that go to the airport, and they've left, 710 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:29.920 and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to explain that I got 711 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:32.360 fined and had to buy a Pittsburgh to Cincinnati because I'm in the Steter's locker 712 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:37.039 room drinking beer. And so I'm running around looking for a cab to go 713 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.760 to the airport. And then there goes Tom Gray and the equipment truck and 714 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.719 I flag it down and I ride out there and the airport for some reason, 715 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.119 our planes, you know, late getting in and we pulled up to 716 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.159 the gate the plane's going to come, and a guy left the end the 717 00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.159 side door and the whole team standing there. First, I'm a little bit 718 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:58.880 upset the starting quarterbacks not there and they don't know And then I started thinking 719 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:05.119 maybe they know him. I don't care, but you know, but I 720 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.599 think, David, I think you'll kind of back me up on this. 721 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.039 It was as you know, when when we played back in that era. 722 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.119 You know, I know, the students were, you know, a dynasty, 723 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.000 but we played them as well as as anybody. Our record, you 724 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.280 know, during that period of time was by far the best in the league 725 00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.960 against them. But you know it was although it was a heated rivalry, 726 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.760 rivalry on the field, I think it was one of respect and you know, 727 00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:35.039 and I think as it developed over the years, and you know, 728 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.360 it comes to the you know, the hit we get on Carson Pomp, 729 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:43.719 I think it got to be one of not respect and uh, you know, 730 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.360 and like I say, we always look forward to playman. You know 731 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:49.119 what was the old saying, and bring an extra chin strap. You're going 732 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:51.199 to need two of the men. Your lunchtocks we're going to be here for 733 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.320 a while. It's still that. It's still that way. But I think, 734 00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:57.000 you know, we respected them. I think obviously they respected us as 735 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.440 well. Yeah, I think. I mean it is it was a double 736 00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:01.679 chin strap, big boy pads. Get ready, It's going to be physical. 737 00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:07.920 There's no question you you have a unique perspective because you coached on that 738 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:15.960 staff with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and does Pittsburgh was there, How does Pittsburgh 739 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.800 look at Cincinnati. I mean, like you said, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh was 740 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.639 the dynasty. Pittsburgh was like, man, if we could beat the Pittsburgh 741 00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:23.239 Steelers and let's go, let's and we would, like you said, we 742 00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:27.559 split with them. It seemed like every year would right when when at least 743 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:31.039 one of them what what is what is Pittsburgh's feeling towards Cincinnati that you you 744 00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:37.159 recall well knowing it was always going to be a tough game, you know, 745 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:39.280 but but at that point when I was up there with the you know, 746 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:44.400 the Bengals that kind of were going through their their tough times, you 747 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:49.760 know, and so the team that that the Steelers had to beat if they 748 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.119 wanted to win the Division of the playoff was Baltimore, right, So that 749 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:57.440 was that was kind of the big one coming up. Although you know it's 750 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.159 like this, I think every team in the AFC North, you know what 751 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.639 it's going to be like going in. You can't overlook anybody because you know, 752 00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.960 funny things happen in these games, yep, and they're always physical. 753 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:13.440 I've got one more for you, only because it was sparked by the fact 754 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.239 you were grabbing a cup of coffee before talking with us. Do you remember 755 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:22.000 you once did a commercial for the National Coffee Association and you were watching film 756 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:25.719 and drawing up plays on a on a yellow notepad. Do you remember that 757 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.280 commercial? Yes, I do. Pick you a coffee, picks you up 758 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:37.079 while it counts you down. There you go. And the other thing that 759 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.400 I remember about that was, you know, we had a schedule we were 760 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.280 going to do it, and they wanted, you know, some players, 761 00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.960 you know, and uniform the background what they had to be real players, 762 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:51.039 and so you know, all of a sudden, it's getting close to training 763 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:52.960 camp and they said, hey, can you do this? And I said, 764 00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.320 you know not, I got to speak tonight. So they sent a 765 00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:01.920 private plane for us. We fly up and then that night the company that 766 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:06.719 we took us out on the town a little bit. And the next the 767 00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.599 next day, we're getting you know, ready to go, uh to shoot 768 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:15.000 the commercial, and there's no answer in church shown its room right and uh 769 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.039 so, you know, but he was in there. He was out a 770 00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:20.960 little later than the rest of us, but we finally got him going there. 771 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.320 And then the thing is, I remember, you know, so I'm 772 00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:30.719 going in and it's there and uh, you know, I'm getting my the 773 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.119 makeup done and they said, hey, you want to coke? We want 774 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.360 some coke. I said, no, I'm about a couple coffee though that's 775 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.079 not the coke they were talking about. And then so I said, well, 776 00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:43.400 no, no, no, thank you. And then uh, we're 777 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.320 down a lunch break. I said, hey, can I get a beer? 778 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:46.880 And they said, no, sirry, there's no alcohol. It's a 779 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.480 union set. I said, wait a second, I can get coke in 780 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.920 the morning, but I can't get a beer for lunch. So that's that's 781 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:57.400 my story about the commercial. Beautiful, beautiful. Hey, before we let 782 00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.079 you run, we know how much time had every you put into your foundation. 783 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.320 Give us an update on how the foundation's going on. What's what's up. 784 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.719 Well, No, it's going really well. We continue, you know, 785 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.599 to work hard. We're serving a lot of adults with disabilities. And 786 00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:16.679 you know, I think right now, you know, next Tuesday is Giving 787 00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:21.280 Tuesday, and I hope people will we'll think about giving to the Ken Anderson 788 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.760 Alliance and it would make it release Janya. Just go to Ken Anderson Alliance 789 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:27.840 dot org and there's a donate button right there. But you know we can 790 00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.400 use every dollar we get. You do an unbelievable job, sir, no 791 00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:37.519 question about it. Ken Anderson always impacting others in a positive way. The 792 00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.960 man, the legend, always good. Catch it up, appreciate your time. 793 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.960 Well, thank you guys, and let's not make it so long the 794 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:47.440 next time you de mand there you go is Bengals legend. Kenny Anderson. 795 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.440 Take a time out. We'll continue. It's Bengals Line. We're on the 796 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:58.760 first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Let's keep moving right 797 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.199 along on this Monday night of the Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals 798 00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:07.079 Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Lance. But Calister Dave Lapham Lance shocked 799 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.840 the Bengals pro shop. Find the best selection of Bengals merchandise anywhere. Visit 800 00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:13.960 the Pro Shops seven days a week, located on the north side of pay 801 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.960 Court Stadium, or shop online at Bengals dot com. Dave, let's continue 802 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:21.119 on and kind of follow up what we were talking about with Kenny. Great 803 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.679 to catch up with Kenny in the last segment about setting up Jake Brown for 804 00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:30.039 success and Joe Mixon carried sixteen times on Thursday night average four point three Carrie 805 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.920 Long of fourteen And for those who want the Bengals to lean more into the 806 00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.960 running game, this would seem like a good opportunity to lean into it and 807 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:42.000 help out Jake absolutely, you know, and I think I think you're going 808 00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:46.480 to see teams not necessarily load the box up, but they're going to make 809 00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:50.480 sure, Okay, can we handle stopping the run. We don't want to 810 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.960 put any extra bodies in the box. We don't want to make life easier 811 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:58.519 for the quarterback that hasn't had that many reps. So we're going to try 812 00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.079 to stop the run just by having six men in the box. Now, 813 00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:04.519 do you have to drop a seventh in there? That would be great, 814 00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.880 That would make life so much easier for Jake Browning even if they don't drop 815 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:12.679 the seventh. The fact that you can run the football on third and four, 816 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.599 third and three, you know those kind of down and distances. And 817 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:20.360 the biggest thing is be productive on first and second down, stay out a 818 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:24.039 third down. Don't put your offense and your quarterback in third and long situations 819 00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:30.480 where you're gonna see exotic pressure packages and disguising coverages and everything goes along with 820 00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.480 it. If you can get a running game going and then have them under 821 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.039 center, I thought it was a brilliant move. Is that to put Jake 822 00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.480 Browning under center? The very first nap he came from the sideline and side. 823 00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:42.760 Okay, two tight ends out there and we're gonna maul you, and 824 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.679 they run a little naked bootleg off of that. I think that Jake Browning 825 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:50.280 moves well. I would change the launch point. I would do everything I 826 00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:54.199 possibly could to make life easier for Jake Browning. You don't have to melt 827 00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:58.599 down your offense though. I mean, he understands every nuance of it because 828 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.239 he's been here for three years. When they when it has evolved in that 829 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.119 period, and we've got about a minute left in the segment. But let's 830 00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:07.480 say there are a lot worse situations for a backup quarterback to step into than 831 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.880 one that has Uh, Jamar Chase, Tyler Boyd and maybe T Higgins back 832 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.079 this week. He's got weapons, certainly, no question. Tanner Hudson has 833 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:19.760 become a weapon as a receiving tight end as well, and you know, 834 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.480 throwing the joe out of the backfield another. I mean, this offense UH 835 00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:27.840 has has plenty. I mean, there's there's plenty of options available to Jake 836 00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:32.199 Browning and he's more than capable of making plays. And the thing we've talked 837 00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:36.960 about third down in red zone A lot of times, the big plays on 838 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.000 third down in red zone are creations and extensions. He has shown the mobility 839 00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:45.880 escapability to do that as well. Still ahead, how about Anthony Munho's the 840 00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:47.679 Hall of Famer will join us as we continue with Bengals Line on the first 841 00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:54.639 Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. We continue on with Bengals 842 00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:59.199 Line on this Monday night. We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network 843 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:01.960 and seven hundred double l W. Im Lance Pacallister alongside is Dave Lapham, 844 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:06.480 Yeah, Sir Lanson. On Tuesdays and Wednesdays throughout the season, save five 845 00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:09.840 bucks off Mike's Car Wash Top two washes for all washes sold. On Wednesday, 846 00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:16.440 Mike's donates one dollar to the Anthony Munos Foundation legendary foundation by from a 847 00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:21.960 legendary player. So far this season there's been thirty one thousand, one hundred 848 00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.599 and seventy six dollars donated. Mike's is opened seven am to nine pm daily, 849 00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:30.719 and Anthony, that's just an unbelievable thing with the relationship you have with 850 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.440 Mike's Car Washing and what you do with your foundation and the kids you help 851 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:38.239 edu, it's incredible. I'll tell you what LAP eight last good being with 852 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:42.599 you guys. But you know, with the foundation, this is our twenty 853 00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:46.199 second year. We have some amazing partners and Mike's Car Washed the last several 854 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:50.960 years, as you mentioned, you know the ads. You go in there 855 00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:53.159 and you get an ultimate wash and they donate a buck a dollar, And 856 00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:58.079 I say, we've been able to impact a lot of kids through our straight 857 00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:01.719 A Luncheon young men and Women that gets scholarships or our football capany just two 858 00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:06.079 of our eight programs. But you know, we can't do what we do 859 00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:09.360 without great partners like Mike's car Wash, and we're very thankful. And it's 860 00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:14.679 fun for us because you know, they send us a kind of a weekly 861 00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.719 email to show us how that money continues to grow. So every week, 862 00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.719 you know, we're thankful that that number continues to grow, and you know, 863 00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:24.039 by the end of the season, you know, we get a chance 864 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:28.360 to get a check from Mike's car Wash and continue to impact youth in this 865 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.840 great community. That's awesome, Anthony. Let's start with the tough news and 866 00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:36.960 get it out of the way. Just your reaction to the unfortunate news with 867 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.800 Joe Burrow and the hand the wrist, Oh my goodness. You know, 868 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.559 there's one thing that I hate about sports, and that's injuries. And I 869 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:47.480 think we've all been through it, and you hate to see it. You 870 00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:52.760 hate to especially the team you root for. And you see the key guy 871 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.239 and Joe Burrow going down with an injury. I mean, it just it 872 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:58.920 breaks my heart. I mean, you know, the guy, you know, 873 00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:00.639 every year seems to be one thing or another, and you know, 874 00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:05.519 he finally got a roll and he was it appeared he was pretty healthy from 875 00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:09.199 that cap and then to have something like this take him down, just really 876 00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:13.880 really hate to see it for him, hate to see it for the team, 877 00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:16.079 and really hate to see it for this city because you know, he 878 00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:21.400 means so much, not only do the team but to the city. Absolutely, 879 00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:25.440 and uh with you hate to have a guy injured. But with that, 880 00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:30.880 Jake Browning now gets an opportunity. And it's so weird for backups because 881 00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.840 they're best friends. You know, Usually that quarterback room is very very close 882 00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.920 and very very tight, and Jake Browning and Joe Burrow are fast friends now, 883 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:40.960 and Jake Browning the last thing he wanted to see was his friend get 884 00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.760 injured. But then the other side of it is now, you know, 885 00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:49.079 hey, an opportunity is there for you, and you got to compartmentalize badly 886 00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:52.719 for Joe, but you got to try to muster everything you can and if 887 00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:55.719 you play well, who knows, you know, you could set yourself up 888 00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:00.519 for the next decade as a quarterback in the National Football League. And I 889 00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:02.840 think Jake Browning, I think the guy can play. What do you think? 890 00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.960 I agree with the laughin and I really appreciate the points you made prior 891 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.679 to that. You know, it's such a competitive uh you know, fill 892 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:15.119 there. You know you're in the same room, your same position. I 893 00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:17.880 mean, you want to be on a squad to start and play, and 894 00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:22.119 you know when you're the backup, you know you you want that, but 895 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:24.239 you don't want it to happen the way it's happened with an injury, right 896 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:29.519 you know, now it is an opportunity. I'm sure Joe's right there rooting 897 00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:31.320 them on because he can't play. And that's usually what happened. You know, 898 00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:35.960 starter gets hurt and you know you're there root for the guy because it's 899 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:37.880 your team. You want to win. And that's a great thing about it. 900 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:42.400 You have a young guy that gets an opportunity. You know, one 901 00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:45.440 of the best quarterbacks in the league is sitting their root for him. But 902 00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:47.039 it is a great opportunity for him. And I think he can play. 903 00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:50.119 You know, I watched him, you know, we watched him in the 904 00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.960 preseason. I think he's very talented. Uh so, yeah, so right 905 00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:58.960 now it's a chance for him to today. This is the reason why I'm 906 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.239 on this football team. You know, I'm the second string guy and and 907 00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:06.400 now it's my time to start and to run this offense and take this offense 908 00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:08.760 and take this team to victory. So, uh, it is a great 909 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:13.719 opportunity for a young man, uh Jake, and uh, you know, 910 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:15.440 we'll be rooting for him and see if he can get uh you know, 911 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.960 he's got a lot of weapons on that offense, and see if he can 912 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:22.480 get the ball to him by throwing and handed off, and see if we 913 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:25.480 can get a big win win against Pittsburgh this coming week. Anthony, let's 914 00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:29.840 take it up front to the O line. What what has caught your eye 915 00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.679 about this offensive line this year? Well, you know, it's it's one 916 00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:37.280 of those things where you know, I keep looking at the position from you 917 00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.519 know, Jonah over the right side. Of course, the thing that I've 918 00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:45.000 enjoyed watching is anytime you get a not only a line, but a player 919 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:49.960 that comes from a school like North Dakota State and and the guy continues to 920 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.239 improve and uh, you know, I haven't been able to watch him closely, 921 00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:57.960 but I believe he's doing pretty well. Uh in Cordell Olson. Uh 922 00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.599 And those are the type of stories that I love. I love the guy 923 00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:02.639 that he stepped in there. He's playing against, you know, a guy 924 00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:07.480 they picked up for a lot of money and Orlando and uh, but you 925 00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:10.360 know that's kind of what I've been watching to see that young man's progression, 926 00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:14.840 and I've been impressed with that. And maybe laugh can give me a little 927 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.320 more insight. You watch them a lot closer, but uh, you know 928 00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:22.480 that's that's the thing, and you know, hopefully they can continue to to 929 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:25.960 play well. And I know when I was playing and we'd lose, maybe 930 00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:30.199 Boomer Kiddy wouldn't start, you have the backup. We knew we had to 931 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.280 kind of tighten things up a little more because you know, they're not in 932 00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:36.400 there all the time as much as a starter, So it's up that offensive 933 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.239 line to really pull together even tighter. But uh, yeah, we'll see 934 00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.920 what happens, and hopefully you know, the running game can pick up and 935 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:46.880 take a little of the pressure off Jake by having to throw the ball all 936 00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:52.400 the time. Yeah, I think, uh, number one. And you 937 00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.199 understand this as well or better than anybody, because what a team leader you 938 00:59:55.239 --> 01:00:00.880 were. But to have somebody that uh, the players, the offensive line 939 01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:06.159 of the other players on the offensive football team respect, you know, and 940 01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:08.360 want to play with and want to play for. I mean Jake has that, 941 01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:12.159 you know, I mean, they they really they they respect them, 942 01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.320 they trust them, they believe in them. And that that's the that's the 943 01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:19.199 first thing is you know, and and and he came into that how to 944 01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:21.719 like, you know, let's get after this. And and that's what you 945 01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:23.559 want to say, like Turk Schordan came in, Okay, guys, let's 946 01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:25.679 go win this football game. You know. It's like, you know, 947 01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.559 okay, let's go Turk, let's go get it, you know. And 948 01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:31.920 and uh, and that's kind of how Jake approached the thing. And and 949 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:37.079 I thought the Bengals state pretty aggressive and let him throw the football, and 950 01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.599 and and and when he caught guys in man coverage with their backs turned, 951 01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:43.760 he ran the ball, you know, on them for like forty yards in 952 01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:45.280 that game. I think the guy can play it. I think it's going 953 01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:49.599 to be very interesting, Like you said, if everybody else does a little 954 01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.199 bit more, so nobody else to do a lot, you know, protect 955 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:54.000 for a half a second more, whatever the case may be, run a 956 01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:59.280 crisper route, whatever, whatever it takes to make life easier for Jake Browning. 957 01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.400 And that's the big Yeah, Dave Man, he got another great point. 958 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:07.079 So much of it comes down to the mental the emotional. I mean, 959 01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.320 you're not on the roster because you can't you don't have the physical tool 960 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:15.440 for jac is there. But there's a difference between a quarterback stepping in the 961 01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:20.639 huddle and having that lay let's go, rather than you know, looking like 962 01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:22.639 a deer in the headliner yep and thinking, oh goodness, are things going 963 01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:25.360 to work out? You know? And you mentioned Turk. I mean we 964 01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.840 had a guy that you know, I played with for nine years and the 965 01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:30.559 first time he stepped in the huddle as a rookie, I was like, 966 01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:34.079 Oh, this guy's got it. And that was Boomer. I mean, 967 01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.719 Boomer said this is my offense, I'm the man. And right away we 968 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:42.480 said, this guy is the man and we are right there with him. 969 01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.159 So that's such a big part of how the quarterback comes in. And like 970 01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:49.559 you said, it appears that Jake has that man and that is half the 971 01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.559 battle, coming in there and getting that respect. And the guy said, 972 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:54.440 Okay, we don't have a Joe in here, but we got Jake. 973 01:01:54.559 --> 01:02:00.199 Let's go yep, yep. Anthony, it's a Steeler's week. What did 974 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.719 those two words mean? When you played Steelers week? That's all we had 975 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.840 to say. And Lap knows that Wednesday morning, first day back installing the 976 01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:12.920 game plan, that was the only thing that had to be said with steeling 977 01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:15.400 week stealing week. And you know you did at least I know, I 978 01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:21.800 didn't need a fifteen to twenty minute motivational talk. It was those two words. 979 01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.679 And because we knew we think Sunday we were going to be looking at 980 01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:29.320 some golden black and that's all it took. You know, my you know, 981 01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:30.400 the laugh was there in the seventies when they were, you know, 982 01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:35.719 big time. My rookie year was the year after they beat the Rams for 983 01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:38.960 their fourth Super Bowl. So and they still had everybody on that defensive line, 984 01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:45.039 Dwight White, Elsie, Joe green Ham, Lambert Bluntchell. So when 985 01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:46.920 you know, my first game, when they said stealing week, it was 986 01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:51.559 like, that's all you have to say to me because I know I've got 987 01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:53.800 to strap it up extra tight. I'm telling you, man, the steel 988 01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:59.280 curtain. You know, there's this steel curtain defense. It's like two chin 989 01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:05.400 straps and the boy patch. Let's go here we go he laugh. How 990 01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:08.039 about when the first trip we were taking to Pittsburgh with Forrest Gregg, he 991 01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:13.159 said, now for all of you that are scared, you stay here. 992 01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.679 We want to take the guys that want to the Steelers. If you're scared, 993 01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:20.559 you staying since the IMF, that is great, that's all I mean, 994 01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.599 stealing week and say let's go. We can't be he ay, last 995 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:27.440 I got to share this story. We would walk out on the field and 996 01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:30.760 I had my guard number sixty two next to me, which I felt pretty 997 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:35.599 comfortable, and Lap would look over to those Steelers lineman with their real short 998 01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:37.000 sleeve. He goes, man, look at those guns on those guys. 999 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.039 And I look at the laugh laugh. Have you looked in the mirror? 1000 01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:49.679 Lowly of guns? Man? You got some big old cannon. What do 1001 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.960 you way about two sixty five to seventy maybe? Yeah, load low two 1002 01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:57.719 seventies like two seventy two something like that. Yeah, and Lance, I 1003 01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:01.480 tell you he had them loaded ready to go. Yeah. Yeah, man' 1004 01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:06.480 that was That's funny. That's funny. But yeah, I'll tell you those 1005 01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:11.320 forest Yeah. I remember, I remember you used the first time I ever 1006 01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:15.199 heard the term squeamish. If you guys are scared, If you I don't 1007 01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:19.480 want anybody that's squeamish getting on this bus. If you're scaring the Pittsburgh Steelers 1008 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:25.800 squeamish. I'm like, that's a great word, man, squeamish. Classic 1009 01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:29.440 clash. That was good. Those are some great battles, man. I 1010 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.880 tell you what you know, you think about that, those Steeler battles we 1011 01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:36.679 had and what's going on now? And I mean to go there our second 1012 01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:41.599 year in eighty one and clinch the AFC back in those days, the AFC 1013 01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:45.559 Central and three River Stadium against those guys. That was huge. That was 1014 01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:48.280 huge. So it was it was Steeler Week. That's all you got to 1015 01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:53.880 say. Big time. You demand Anthony, Anthony to wrap it up one 1016 01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:56.920 more time. Tell tell everybody who wants more information how do they can get 1017 01:04:56.920 --> 01:04:59.440 it about the foundation if they want to get involved, help out, or 1018 01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:03.800 just h learn more about it. Great. We got Munhos Foundation dot org. 1019 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.719 You can get on there. You can see all the programs we run, 1020 01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:11.920 you can see how you can help financeally volunteering. And this next week 1021 01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:14.880 December first, second, and third, we got about one hundred and fifty 1022 01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:18.760 young man. We're taking up the Camp Shataqua for overnight camp and we'll be 1023 01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:23.320 we'll be there for three days and we'll be teaching them a little football, 1024 01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.079 but we're going through character team buildings and that's just one of the programs we 1025 01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.559 run. But yeah, Munyo's Foundation dot org. You can check it out 1026 01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:34.440 to what we do in our twenty second year. And you know Lappa Lapp 1027 01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:38.760 is not only the official voice of the Bengals on radio, but he is 1028 01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:43.440 one of the official voices for our banquet in June for years and years. 1029 01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:45.880 So the big guy, he helps us out any way he cans, and 1030 01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.719 we appreciate that. You're the best. Anthony. Appreciate your time. I 1031 01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:54.360 know you're busy to carve some for us means a lot. Appreciate you brother, 1032 01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:59.239 anytime you guys have a great one. Thanks guys. Anthony Munyo is 1033 01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:02.199 hanging out with us on Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network 1034 01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:06.360 and seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back on Bengals Line on this Monday 1035 01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:12.239 night on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW lands Backallister 1036 01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.119 hanging out with Dave Lapham. I know hal Kat is proud to support the 1037 01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.559 Cincinnati Bengals. Sohio's premier construction equipment provider. We know what it takes to 1038 01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:23.000 be a first place team. Regardless of you need, whether it's sales service 1039 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:26.280 or equipment rental, you can count O how Kat to be a trusted teammate. 1040 01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:28.960 To see how we can help your company win, be sure to there 1041 01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:32.519 at www dot ohikat dot com. Whoday, Go Bengals. David talked and 1042 01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:35.840 how great was that to catch up with Anthony munhos is always talking offense. 1043 01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:40.159 Let's flip the script for a segment and talk a little bit about the defense 1044 01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:44.760 and potentially the return of Sam Hubbard hopefully and man his absence. I think 1045 01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:47.360 anybody who doubted his impact has seen it play out over the last couple of 1046 01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:51.920 weeks. And I think if there was one guy you'd want for Baltimore based 1047 01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:57.400 on just his athleticism, his versatility, his football IQ, it would be 1048 01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.400 Sam Hubbard. And did not have him there? Take it again in big 1049 01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:04.000 bold light, splashed how much it hurt him. It was a big tool 1050 01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:09.039 not in lou Amo's toolbox, because you know, Sam was a safety in 1051 01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:13.960 high school. Initially beefed up stronger, moved the linebacker, beefed up stronger, 1052 01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:17.559 yet interior or go to the defensive line up front in the front seven. 1053 01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:23.679 So Sam Hubbard is very athletic. He understands all kinds of leverage from 1054 01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:29.559 a covered standpoint, He understands combinations, he understands concepts, so he's extremely 1055 01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:33.880 valuable. He was a spy. He's been a very capable spy for Lamar 1056 01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:36.800 Jackson. He can play the run off the edge, he can rush off 1057 01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:41.000 the edge, he can do any he can line up a linebacker and drop. 1058 01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:45.159 He can do anything for you. And I honestly do believe lou An 1059 01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:48.599 Aruma has said on more than one occasion he's the best run defender that they 1060 01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:53.239 have. I mean, he's from the edge standpoint, he is the best 1061 01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:57.840 run game defender. So to have him back for Pittsburgh, who's trying to 1062 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.400 pound the rock, and that's that's there's no doubt about that. Harris has 1063 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:04.480 fournuner ninety nine yards, Warren has four hundred ninety three, and they've combined 1064 01:08:04.519 --> 01:08:08.159 for two hundred and eight carries. I mean, that's they're going to try 1065 01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:12.519 to attack the Cincinnati Bengals on the ground, and having Sam Hubbard back to 1066 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.560 help alleviate that issue is going to be a big, big deal and the 1067 01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:23.359 explosive plays have just been so pronounced and that wasn't happening early in the season, 1068 01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:26.960 and just that the chunk ability right now is just that daggered into this 1069 01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:30.119 defense. Yeah, they're gonna have to start playing better top down defense, 1070 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:34.239 top down coverage, there's no doubt about that. And these over routes that 1071 01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:40.199 have continually hurt, They're gonna have to figure out what the secret sauce is 1072 01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:44.159 to stop those bad boys, because as we know, the NFL is a 1073 01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:47.640 copycat league. And once Houston had success with it, Baltimore said, we're 1074 01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:51.840 gonna do it too. So don't be surprised to see over routes as part 1075 01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:57.159 of the Pittsburgh Steelers game planned until the Bengals stop it. And that's going 1076 01:08:57.199 --> 01:09:00.600 to be an issue on a weekly base. And the big thing is in 1077 01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:05.439 this football game is Pittsburgh's number one in the NFL and turnover ratio plus eleven. 1078 01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:11.039 Bengals are tied for second at plus ten. Steelers have nineteen takeaways, 1079 01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:15.039 tied for second most in the NFL. Bengals have eighteen, tied for six. 1080 01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:20.600 That's how many people have eighteen or nineteen takeaways, So in eighteen takeaways. 1081 01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:24.720 There's quite a few people in that department. But taking that football away 1082 01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:29.079 like that and not giving it away. I mean they both of them only 1083 01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:32.119 have eight giveaways, tied for fewest in the NFL. It is going to 1084 01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:35.840 be one of those games. It's going to be based on possessions. You 1085 01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:39.600 want as many as you can get, you don't want to give any away. 1086 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.479 And that's what's going to be the ying and yang of this football game. 1087 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:45.119 Lou Anrimo is going to join us later on in the third hour and 1088 01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:48.319 I'll ask him about it. But we watched Logan Wilson. We know Logan 1089 01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:54.000 Wilson. We like Logan Wilson. I think the narrative created by whomever that 1090 01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:57.840 people are running with of what Logan Wilson was supposed to have done that what 1091 01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:01.399 was cheap, don't get it. I think it's unfair. It's it's missing 1092 01:10:01.399 --> 01:10:04.880 the mark on the guy. Yeah, I mean he's trying to get people 1093 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:09.840 on the ground and whatever it takes to do that. And and do you 1094 01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:12.840 see any yellow flags? No? Did he do anything illegal? No? 1095 01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:17.960 So you know people are people are running with something that and the drop going 1096 01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:21.760 to be explored. It's it's explored every year. I mean, if if 1097 01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:27.399 there's certain things that are outlawed, okay, fine, that's there's a rule 1098 01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:30.760 now, and now I'm going to live by that rule. But as of 1099 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:35.159 today, Logan Wilson did nothing wrong in the way he approached taking people to 1100 01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:40.720 the ground. We are heading down the stretch and our second of three hours. 1101 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.920 There is so much more to get to and we continue on after this. 1102 01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:47.239 It's Bengals Line on the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred 1103 01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:53.039 w l W. All right back on Bengals Line on this Monday night. 1104 01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:56.640 We are flying down the stretch. Final segment of our second hour, a 1105 01:10:56.680 --> 01:11:00.239 third hour to include get ready for this lou Anroumo eating off in the eight 1106 01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:04.720 o'clock hour, followed by a little bit from Joe Burrow and his news conference, 1107 01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:09.720 a little bit uh ooh from Lewis Breeden is going to check in the 1108 01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:13.079 former Bengal. We'll touch on the Steelers in the playoff picture. That is 1109 01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:15.439 all ahead in a jam pack third hour, Hang with us. It's Bengals 1110 01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:26.159 Line on the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW touchdown Bengals 1111 01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:30.199 East Bengals Line on the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network. Brook You by 1112 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:35.520 Acre pay Coor is proud to be the official HR software provider of the Cincinnati 1113 01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:42.000 Bengals. Alta Fliber future proof of Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 1114 01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:47.760 business, and community to a new level. You're listening to the Bengals Radio 1115 01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:51.640 Network. Let's keep it moving. We're back on Bengals Line on this Monday 1116 01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:56.760 night on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW, Lance 1117 01:11:56.800 --> 01:12:00.800 McAllister, Dave Lapham and Lance fifth third. Your hometown bank is proud to 1118 01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:04.159 partner with the Cincinnati Bengals. Your hometown team is Y three dot com slash 1119 01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:10.159 Bengals for more on Bengals Banking. Dave, Welcome in our next special guests 1120 01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:15.319 to begin this hour. I think this this gentleman has as brilliant a defensive 1121 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:18.800 mind as Arisen the game of football period, and we're very pleased to have 1122 01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:24.239 him here in Cincinnati. And we're more than that pleased. We're more pleased 1123 01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:27.880 than that to have him on our show. None other than Lou and Aumo. 1124 01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:31.600 Thanks guys, thanks for having me. Where Where is your what? 1125 01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:35.399 What? Are your talking points this week to your team to get them back 1126 01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:39.680 to where they were at the level they were playing. Yeah, I just 1127 01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:45.640 think it's, you know, reset your mind, you know, I think, 1128 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:49.079 uh, get get to a position where you know, the guys are 1129 01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:54.239 playing at a high level again. I think there was moments of that the 1130 01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:58.239 other night. You know, about four minutes left and a half, it's 1131 01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:01.680 we're winning ten seven. Yeah, you know, they got thirty yards rushing 1132 01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:04.000 at the half, and you know you're kind of getting them to play a 1133 01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:08.359 little bit left handed, and then you know, we tip a pass and 1134 01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:12.760 they catch it in full stride and then we get the couple of pis and 1135 01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:17.039 half went into halftime totally different than we should have. So, but it 1136 01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:20.159 is what it is. That's football, and we have to respond and we 1137 01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:27.199 will this weekend. Yeah, my take on the pis, I mean I 1138 01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:30.239 was p oed with the pi's and I'm sure you were and a lot of 1139 01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:34.039 the other people. I mean it's like, all right, the Bengals number 1140 01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:40.439 one in the NFL and penalties and penalty yards. You call nine penalties against 1141 01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:44.600 the Bengals, nine against the Baltimore Ravens, eighteen penalties for over one hundred 1142 01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:48.119 and eighty yards ten yards per penalty assessed. That's crap. You know, 1143 01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:51.399 it's a nationally televised game. People want to see the guys play, the 1144 01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:55.439 guys make plays to inside the football. They don't want to see the striped 1145 01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:58.239 jerseys throwing yellow flags. I mean, if I'm in the league, they 1146 01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.920 going to figure out a way. They got to figure out a way somehow 1147 01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:06.880 to communicate with them when they do. Okay, let's replay this, bring 1148 01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:10.960 them on the stile and say, hey, keep your flagging your pocket for 1149 01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:15.279 God's sake, will you? I mean seriously, Yeah, you should ask 1150 01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:19.880 him to put money on the table to cover potential five one. Oh man, 1151 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:24.840 I mean that was so it had to be brutally frustrating for coaches and 1152 01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:28.840 players because it was frustrating to watch and call. That's for sure. We 1153 01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:31.960 just have to play better, and uh, you know that's obvious, so 1154 01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:35.840 we will. Yes, Jordan Battle had tied for a game high eleven tackles. 1155 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:41.039 Did the tape back up what you were thinking in terms of his performance? 1156 01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:44.359 Yeah, he did some good things. Certainly, Let's start with tackling, 1157 01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:47.760 getting off blocks and making tackles so we can build from there. So 1158 01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:54.560 here come the Pittsburgh Steelers, and you know, they're known for their defensive 1159 01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:57.600 football team, but they're also known for their running game, you know. 1160 01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.560 And they have a couple of running backs that are six yards apart, I 1161 01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:05.880 mean split in times, almost identical carries, identical yards, maybe similar running 1162 01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:10.600 styles. I mean, when you're going against the duo like that in the 1163 01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:13.960 running game, what are the big things to talk about? Well, it 1164 01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:15.760 starts up front. They're doing a good job, you know, getting you 1165 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:21.399 know, moving people and creating some seams for these guys. So and they 1166 01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:25.199 both run really hard. Warren, as you saw, had the big, 1167 01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:29.720 big seventy four yard running I think yesterday and not she does a good job, 1168 01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:32.960 you know, creating holes maybe when there's not. So they've got two 1169 01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:36.119 very capable running backs and they do a good job with it, and they 1170 01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:41.439 feature them. And you could see why I offer this not as an excuse, 1171 01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:44.079 but the reality of the situation. You've got two guys in the back 1172 01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.640 end, rookies in Turner and Battle who played one hundred and fifteen snaps Monday 1173 01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:49.800 night. Rookies can be very volatile, up and down, unpredictable. How 1174 01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:54.359 how challenging is that, you know, it's just a part of it. 1175 01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:59.000 You know, at this point, you know, DJ's played a lot, 1176 01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:01.880 so we'd like to think he's beyond that. But again it's he's in and 1177 01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:05.239 there's things that show up. He did a good job, you know, 1178 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:12.119 did not have a good snap against the one snap against Flowers on the long 1179 01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:15.800 play. But you know he can't good news about DJs. He battles right 1180 01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:19.119 back and uh, you know, he doesn't let that stuff, you know, 1181 01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:24.199 get him, you know, upstairs mentally challenged, because that can that 1182 01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:28.119 can be a situation where if you're playing corner and you're not, you know, 1183 01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:30.960 you're losing confidence. That's not a good thing. And that's not DJ. 1184 01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:33.760 He's always always on it. So he knows what he did wrong. 1185 01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:39.239 We just got to fix it. You go from a quarterback that's an MVP 1186 01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:45.279 candidate Lamar Jackson, that is capable of doing just about anything. And and 1187 01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:48.199 I'm not saying pick it isn't an NFL quarterback, I mean not a good 1188 01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:53.079 quarterback. He's an NFL starting quarterback. The guy can play the quarterback position, 1189 01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:59.520 but doesn't pose maybe as many threats as Lamar Jackson may pose. How 1190 01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:02.319 different is that from a preparation standpoint. Yeah, it's just hard to compare 1191 01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:06.039 Lamar to anybody. Yeah, he's right, he's him, and he does 1192 01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:11.199 a great job as we know, the run game part of it and throwing 1193 01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:14.199 the ball. So but as you mentioned, you know, picket is uh, 1194 01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:15.840 he knows where he wants to go with the ball. You can see 1195 01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:23.000 his you know, his growth since last year. You know, so you 1196 01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:27.520 know, we can certainly be aware of the weapons they have on the outside, 1197 01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:30.720 the weapons he can go to on the outside. Uh, he can 1198 01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:32.800 get hot and you know, move the ball around some. They do a 1199 01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:36.199 great job in the screen game and every as you mentioned, everything builds off 1200 01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:41.479 of their power run game and so we've got to stop that first and then 1201 01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:45.079 go on from there. And he he doesn't hesitate to hesitate to use Warren. 1202 01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:49.279 Warren's a second leading receiver thirty four. I mean is that mostly screen 1203 01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:53.520 game coaches? He checkdowns a combination, It is a combination of both. 1204 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:56.279 Yeah, he gets out there on third down because he does a great Warren 1205 01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:59.159 that is in terms of protection and things like that, he does a hell 1206 01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:00.359 of a job and nobody way, as you mentioned, he's a really good 1207 01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:04.399 screen runner. You you know, Logan Wilson the player, you know, 1208 01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:08.239 Logan Wilson the person. What would you say to the people taking shots at 1209 01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:11.239 it. Yeah, I don't understand it, you know, I don't understand 1210 01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:14.800 it at all. So you know, Zach made comments the other day about 1211 01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.640 it, so I'll leave it alone. But Logan is as fine of a 1212 01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:21.439 man as he is a football player. There's nothing dirty about him. And 1213 01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:25.880 everything he did the other night was just in the spirit of the game and 1214 01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:29.800 trying to tackle somebody. And that guy played his tail off too. I 1215 01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:34.520 mean I saw him the buses when we pulled into the stadium in the wee 1216 01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:39.960 hours, and he was, you know, obviously still frustrated about the game 1217 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.600 and everything. I said, hey, fifty five, I just want to 1218 01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:45.600 say, man, you know, as an observer, you played your tailoff 1219 01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:46.920 and he kind of like, you know, shrugged it off. I said, 1220 01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:49.680 seriously, you played your tail off, man, And I mean he 1221 01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:53.920 was he was definitely impacted, you know. I mean that game was tough 1222 01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:56.399 on everybody, no question. Well that's the kind of guy he is. 1223 01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.479 You know, he doesn't want to certainly, he's not out there trying to 1224 01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:04.159 hurt anybody. And he's sprinted almost fifty something yards down the field to tackle 1225 01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:09.800 Odell on that one. And it's a hard tackle on a receiver from a 1226 01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:14.840 linebacker fifty yards momentum down the field. So again, there's no malicious intent 1227 01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:19.720 in his game at all. He's trying to play fair. But it's football. 1228 01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:24.800 So and I don't want to dwell on this, but it's just people 1229 01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:29.279 that want to make these rule changes. It's hard enough to play defense anyway. 1230 01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:31.560 If they're going to change the way that you're allowed to tackle people and 1231 01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:36.760 going to a thorough examination of is this how can you play football anymore that 1232 01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:40.680 way? That's crazy? I don't know. It's something that'll be discussed, 1233 01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:44.439 I'm sure because it came up last year in the competition meeting. So we'll 1234 01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:47.399 just you know, whatever the rules are passed down, that won't will enforce 1235 01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:53.199 them. There is a it'd be one thing if there hadn't been a frame 1236 01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:55.880 of reference to point two with this defense, but there was a three game 1237 01:19:55.920 --> 01:20:00.840 stretch Seattle, San Francisco, Buffalo. You give up what thirty seventeen eighteen 1238 01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:03.760 to kind of point to to say this is who we can be, this 1239 01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:06.039 is what we can do. Yeah, no doubt, I mean I think, 1240 01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:11.680 and that's the guys that have been here know what we're capable of. 1241 01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:14.800 We just have to get back to it. And that's no excuses. We 1242 01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:19.680 just have to play solid defense and starts in the run game and build from 1243 01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:25.439 there. A short week, a couple of physical football games. I mean, 1244 01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:29.239 Houston is physical, there's no doubt. Baltimore we know. You know 1245 01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:31.479 you go to Baltimore, it's physical, there's no no question about it. 1246 01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:36.760 Everybody of course, and rightfully so talking about the injury to Joe Burrow, 1247 01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:41.000 which is unfortunate and costs him the rest of the season. How to how 1248 01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:42.760 have you come out of it? Do you do? You feel like you 1249 01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:45.399 guys are gonna be pretty good here come Yeah, I think so. We'll 1250 01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:50.079 see the guys here today. But I feel good about where we were coming 1251 01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:54.840 out of the game. So we see good. Appreciate you checking in as 1252 01:20:54.840 --> 01:20:59.159 always and hanging out with us. Absolutely, thank you. It's going to 1253 01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:04.000 be a victory day on Monday. Coach victory day on Monday from this week 1254 01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:08.079 week for Monday. That's right, that's right. There you go. We 1255 01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:11.640 get a smile on his face. There you go. It's Bengals Live. 1256 01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:17.359 We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. We 1257 01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:21.439 continue on on this Monday Night talking Bengals three hours every Monday Night. It's 1258 01:21:21.439 --> 01:21:27.039 Bengals Line of the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. 1259 01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:30.079 Lance Bacallister and Dave Lepham and Lance fifth third, Your Hometown Bank is proud 1260 01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:33.640 to partner with the Cincinnati Bengals. Your hometown team. Visit five to three 1261 01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:39.239 dot com slash Bengals for more on Bengals banking and the Bengals upgraded the Wi 1262 01:21:39.239 --> 01:21:42.720 Fi at pay Course Stadium with the help of their new internet provider, Alti 1263 01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:46.760 Fiber, future proof fiber Internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed to take 1264 01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:50.479 your home, business, and community to a new level. Elevate your connection 1265 01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:54.479 with Alti Fiber. David, Let's talk a little bit more about Joe Burrow 1266 01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:59.239 dealing with an injury, dealing with the rehab now and the physical grind of 1267 01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:00.439 that, but the mental grind of it as well. And we talked with 1268 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:04.359 Brian Callahan with It about it earlier in the show. It wears on an 1269 01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:10.680 individual. But but Joe has that makeup and that laser focus, and let's 1270 01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:14.920 be honest, he's been through rehabs a number of different times, so you 1271 01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:18.479 tend to not worry because just his makeup and how he has handled it in 1272 01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:23.359 the past will lead him into handling it again this time. Absolutely. And 1273 01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:27.560 you look at it and mentioned it during the game, the fact that he 1274 01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:30.720 never felt sorry for himself at one instant, and that's going to be the 1275 01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:35.760 case through the entire rehab process. There's no pity party, there's no poor 1276 01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:39.720 me, oh man, what's going on? Why am I always the one 1277 01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:43.520 that has to deal with these injuries? If your mind is cluttered with that 1278 01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:45.920 kind of thing, you're not on point in terms of what you're supposed to 1279 01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:50.479 do to get done that day. For a proper rehab and Joe Burrow and 1280 01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:57.479 all his rehabilitations to this point has become rehab player of the Year. I 1281 01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:00.960 mean, he's going to do everything to the highest level possible, just like 1282 01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.720 when he plays, he's gonna, he's gonna. He wants to be the 1283 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:05.840 best. He wants to be the best quarterback on the football field. He 1284 01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:09.720 wants to help his team be the best team it possibly can be, and 1285 01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:15.239 he's gonna take care of himself and his body from a rehabilitation standpoint the best 1286 01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:19.840 that he possibly can as well. So everything he does he does for keeps. 1287 01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:25.039 Here's Joe Burrow meeting with the media talking about what has happened and what 1288 01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:28.439 is ahead for him. Yeah, it's tough. You know, you work, 1289 01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:31.800 you work so hard for for seasons and moments like these. So when 1290 01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:35.239 you know, whenever you get hurt and it it ends at early, it's 1291 01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:40.239 it's tough to tough to handle. But you know that's part of the game, 1292 01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:47.680 been through before, so it's got to grind it out. Yeah, 1293 01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:51.119 the the play before it happened, I landed on on the wrist a little 1294 01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:56.760 bit, and then the next play, you know, the touchdown pass just 1295 01:23:56.760 --> 01:24:00.560 felt the pop when uh in the middle of the row, you know, 1296 01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:05.079 tried to tried to give it a go, but just couldn't. Couldn't get 1297 01:24:05.079 --> 01:24:11.439 it done. So uh and obviously got the news today, So not great. 1298 01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:16.720 But you try to a couple of times and it's probably just I know 1299 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:21.600 I couldn't. I knew I couldn't yesterday, So that was tough. You 1300 01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:26.359 know, I was excited about how that game was heading. Uh, and 1301 01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:30.640 then you know, after the game kind of kind of had a feeling before 1302 01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:34.720 ah, before we got the official news. But this is what it is. 1303 01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:38.640 When you went to the tent and before you did you think, do 1304 01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:41.520 you feel pretty good about the situation? You not feel good about the situation? 1305 01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:45.039 Oh, I'm not. I didn't really have a feeling at that time. 1306 01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:48.399 It's gonna I was just gonna tape it up and give it a shot. 1307 01:24:49.079 --> 01:24:55.560 Uh, just couldn't. I mean, just three years, I feel 1308 01:24:55.560 --> 01:24:59.520 like you're always kind of playing through and been dealing with stuff. Injury is 1309 01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:02.920 tough stuff. How do you deal with the compilation of this? Do you 1310 01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:08.840 worry about the compilation of this stuff over three years? No, I'm just 1311 01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:14.560 gonna treat it like like anything else. You know, you analyze the situation, 1312 01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:19.039 go through the process of what it's going to take to get back, 1313 01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:23.239 and you go and do it. That's all you can do. What have 1314 01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:26.119 they told you about the process of getting back? I mean, how soon 1315 01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:29.840 you expect to be able to throw again and go through all those reals? 1316 01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:32.880 Yeah, I don't know. It's still very early. Still got a lot 1317 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:36.039 of people to talk to. Uh, and you know, a lot of 1318 01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:40.039 work to do, so I don't really have an answer on that. One's 1319 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:43.520 just stuff you draw from. I mean the clas that process, how you 1320 01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:45.479 were able to handle it and come through this. If you drop from that, 1321 01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:47.279 the fields and can help you, you know, come out of this. 1322 01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:50.600 Uh, you know, with a good mindset. Yeah, I've you 1323 01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:55.319 know, I've been through stuff like this before, so it's nothing new, 1324 01:25:55.079 --> 01:25:57.279 you know, Like I said, it's football. Stuff like this happens. 1325 01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:01.640 You just gotta live learned to live with it. And you know, I've 1326 01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:05.119 talked a lot about landing on your sports system. I got a great support 1327 01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:09.640 system, great friends, great family, helped me get through, a great 1328 01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:13.880 teammates, and I'll be around here. So uh, not ideal, but 1329 01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:15.680 you know I've got what it takes and the people around me got what it 1330 01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:21.960 takes to get it done. Contained There's been nothing but supportive love. Those 1331 01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:26.840 guys. They're going to keep fighting, get wins, make the playoffs. 1332 01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:30.640 Uh. You know, Jake's gonna play great. Jake played really well yesterday 1333 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.239 when he got his chance, and that was off of no practice, so 1334 01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:36.119 he's going to continue to get better and better. I'm decided to watch him 1335 01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:42.520 too on the play when you landed before a touchdown pass, was the force 1336 01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:48.319 from the defender that fell along just as well, I don't really even remember, 1337 01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:51.199 you know, I didn't even really realize that I fell on it before 1338 01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:56.880 they showed me the video, you know, in the in the heat of 1339 01:26:56.920 --> 01:27:01.039 it like that, it's it's hard to sometimes you don't even feel what's happening 1340 01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:04.720 to your body in those situations, just because of the moment and the adrenaline. 1341 01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:10.760 So it's hard to even describe. Its strange that your final passing the 1342 01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:15.159 seasons gonna be a touchdown. Yeah, that's not you know, the final 1343 01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:19.199 one not great. But I was able to get it to him somehow. 1344 01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:27.439 When you pop the pain you know how bad weather, I mean, when 1345 01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:33.000 you're on the field, it's I would never describe anything on the field is 1346 01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:42.359 pain. You just kind of in the moment experiencing things. I wouldn't describe 1347 01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:48.079 it as pain. There's been social media posts and a lot of documentation from 1348 01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:51.800 the video. Had it left side of a wrap on your risk going into 1349 01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:58.039 the game, what like that? That was This is a completely different, 1350 01:27:58.920 --> 01:28:04.760 different thing. You know, It's not uncommon for guys to wear compression sleeves 1351 01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:09.760 on plane, because when you go up to that altitude, you you know, 1352 01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:12.680 things can swell up. You know, football, you have a lot 1353 01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:16.920 of bumps and bruises. This is a completely new injury. It was compression 1354 01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:23.439 of you that flight. Is that way you grabbed it or just just a 1355 01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:29.640 precautionary No, that was more of a just make sure my arm on a 1356 01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:33.000 flight, doesn't I mean you you try to maintain your body as much as 1357 01:28:33.039 --> 01:28:36.640 you can, and you know on a short week you got some bumps and 1358 01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:41.279 bruises. Had nothing to do with the wrist. Joe Burrow on the rehab 1359 01:28:41.399 --> 01:28:44.880 still ahead. Lewis Breeden will check in. We'll talk with him, and 1360 01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:46.760 a little bit more on the Steelers. We've got plenty to get too as 1361 01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:50.600 we head down the stretch on Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio 1362 01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:57.079 Network. It's seven hundred l W. Hey, we're back on Bengals Line 1363 01:28:57.079 --> 01:29:00.760 on this Monday evening on the first Dar Logistics Bengals Radio net work and seven 1364 01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:03.880 hundred WLW. I'm Lance McAllister along with Dave Lappham, Yes, Sir Lanson. 1365 01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:08.039 Before each Bengals home game at pay Course Stadium, stopped by pregame at 1366 01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:12.119 the Banks located along Freedom Way, visit the bud Light Tailgate Zone near Joe 1367 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.920 Knuxall Way, and then walked through the Jungle Zone powered by Toyota for face 1368 01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:20.720 painting games and interactive stations. Activities begin three hours prior to kickoff Big Party 1369 01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:25.399 Day. Let's welcome in our next guest. How about I'll do the honors? 1370 01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:27.840 Can I do the honors? All right? Our next guest? Drafted 1371 01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:31.640 in nineteen seventy seven by the Bengals out of North Carolina Central ten seasons. 1372 01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:36.079 He wore number thirty four. He picked off thirty three passes in his career, 1373 01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:41.000 including one he returned one hundred and two yards to the house. We 1374 01:29:41.079 --> 01:29:45.199 would be speaking of nobody other than our next guest, Lewis Breden. How 1375 01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:47.920 are you? Yes, I'm doing great man, And thanks for doing the 1376 01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:53.800 homework guys on the bio, because otherwise otherwise PE wouldn't know. Fifty years 1377 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:58.640 later, you know, I will say though. Drafted in Major Lee in 1378 01:29:58.720 --> 01:30:03.720 baseball as well, great great baseball player and the best Bengal basketball player ever 1379 01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:09.680 in franchise history. The helicopter, Lewis could dunk behind his head under his 1380 01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:13.399 legs. I mean it was unbelievable, man. He he was the helicopter. 1381 01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.199 We called him. They would call me the hell they would call we'd 1382 01:30:16.239 --> 01:30:20.479 call me the helicopter. I did call you the helicopter, and that I 1383 01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:25.439 tried to give him the bowl as much as possible to see him dunk it 1384 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:30.600 underneath the bat mocked the dug. The reason, the reason you were the 1385 01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:33.960 helicopter. You not only got up, you hung there. Man, Your 1386 01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:41.319 hangtime was unbelievable, unbelievable, good old day. All right, oh man, 1387 01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:44.640 crazy, there you go, Lewis, take us back just a couple 1388 01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:47.159 of days, and and kind of your reaction to the gut punch the Bengals 1389 01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:50.359 get with the news of Joe Burrow's injury that knocks him out for the season. 1390 01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:56.960 Yeah, got And they would tell you, man that the last thing 1391 01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:01.680 you want to see, uh with with any football player, with the Bengals 1392 01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:05.600 or or even opponent, you want to see someone go down with the season 1393 01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:10.960 in the injury. And one of the reasons because you never know when you 1394 01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:13.399 can go down, so it's not a good thing to be rooting for someone 1395 01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:16.840 to get hurt. And Joe Burrow is he's had some injuries. I had 1396 01:31:16.880 --> 01:31:20.359 him doing my career, and I mean he's the center of the center of 1397 01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:26.039 this franchise. Man. They they do some incredible things offensively and as a 1398 01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:30.239 team because of the abilities of Joe Burrow. He's incredible, man. I 1399 01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:35.319 mean he's He and Mahomes are right there. To me, I picked my 1400 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:39.439 home. I think Mahomes can do some things a little bit more creative, 1401 01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:44.079 but there's not a difference between the way those guys go out and play football. 1402 01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:46.760 That makes place and that uh, every player football player does some things 1403 01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:50.680 differently, and he's a different maker, man. And and that's a tough 1404 01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:54.439 loss. It's kind of kind of a loss that I don't know how you 1405 01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:59.319 recover, man. I'll tell you it's if everybody else does a little bit 1406 01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:00.800 more and nobody else do a lot. I guess in his absence, and 1407 01:32:01.159 --> 01:32:03.840 I guess my question for you, because you were as good as there was 1408 01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:09.479 on that back end. Why why do you see? Why do you think 1409 01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:13.159 because you watched the Bengals pretty religiously, I know, all of a sudden, 1410 01:32:13.319 --> 01:32:16.000 they're giving up chunks In the last two games, seventeen plays of twenty 1411 01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:20.880 yards more seventeen in two football games. I mean, and they weren't. 1412 01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:25.880 I mean, they played top down coverage about as well as anybody has anything 1413 01:32:25.880 --> 01:32:30.680 caught your eye in particular, nothing really. I was surprised because you know, 1414 01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:34.000 you've been talking about the secondary because the the secondary has been playing so 1415 01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:40.119 well. I remember all the accolades, all the punnits were giving the Bengals 1416 01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:43.920 secondary because they were playing so well with all the young guy right, and 1417 01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:46.399 they did it during the season too. So I think what happened with Houston 1418 01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:51.039 they ran into a hotball club crowd is he's a player, man, and 1419 01:32:51.079 --> 01:32:55.159 they've been they winning ball games, and they won element I mean straight, 1420 01:32:55.239 --> 01:33:00.000 but they they even won yesterday. And they ran into a team that normally 1421 01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:04.880 beats them. So I take that away. I think more than everything, 1422 01:33:05.560 --> 01:33:12.319 the Bengals, you know, they have the people out defensively. I didn't 1423 01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:15.840 expect that. I really felt the Bengals would. You know, It's just 1424 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:19.000 like law of averages, man, Eventually you're gonna win. And I think, 1425 01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:23.840 what is Lamar Jackson from like seven and two, eight and two over 1426 01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:27.840 the last three years against the Bengals. But I just think eight and one, 1427 01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:30.920 Okay, I just take the Bengals would play a good ball game coming 1428 01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:33.600 off the loss, they would play well, then they could stick out a 1429 01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:38.800 win. But when Joe Burrow goes out, you lose all kinds of continuity 1430 01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:43.800 offensively and it's it's hard to make up for that. And from the secondary 1431 01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:48.600 standpoint, they're still CHANNELSS and I think the biggest thing with that defensively for 1432 01:33:48.640 --> 01:33:56.359 them, that's not a past rushing for guys kind of rushing defense. They 1433 01:33:56.399 --> 01:33:59.439 do play a lot of zone, so, uh, you're going to have 1434 01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:03.000 to really be coordinated in the secondary, which they've been able to do, 1435 01:34:03.079 --> 01:34:08.880 but the last couple of games they've broken down a bit. So hopefully they 1436 01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:12.800 can get that all taken care of the next next ball games and throughout the 1437 01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:15.880 rest of the season. These over routes that are killing him and a lot 1438 01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:19.680 of times it's like passing off one guy to another in the zone. Yeah, 1439 01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:24.119 what's what's the trick to getting that done properly? Have they had issues 1440 01:34:24.119 --> 01:34:30.479 in that regard h it's coordinations, attention to detail. You know, it 1441 01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:39.720 kind of reminds me of you remember last year when Kansas City played Philadelphia, 1442 01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:44.520 there were two touchdowns scores by Philadelphia when the corners were supposed to pass it 1443 01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:47.239 all with some just minor crossing and now the goal line, and they just 1444 01:34:47.319 --> 01:34:50.159 didn't do it. And you knew they knew what they were supposed to do. 1445 01:34:50.199 --> 01:34:55.960 But all it takes is just one second of hesitation, A nano second 1446 01:34:55.960 --> 01:34:59.600 of hesitation doesn't take much for a guy to get by you. As you 1447 01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:04.600 got to acurate quarterback and and and that. Uh, Baltimore has done that 1448 01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:08.640 this year. You're going to get deep. Uh. It has to be 1449 01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:12.760 coordinated, especially when you're playing when you play a lot of zone and those 1450 01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:16.239 kinds of things where guys are passing off and guys are crossing, especially on 1451 01:35:16.279 --> 01:35:18.680 deep patters, you gotta get a pass rush. The pass rush is always 1452 01:35:18.680 --> 01:35:23.600 a goodness back to be friends. And they didn't have the kind of pass 1453 01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:30.239 rush uh that they've had throughout the season. But they're just not the best 1454 01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:33.399 pass rushing team in the National Football League anyway. They just played great, 1455 01:35:34.319 --> 01:35:40.079 solid, coordinated defense. Lewis tick me back when you were a rookie coming 1456 01:35:40.119 --> 01:35:44.319 into the league, what it was like to have Ken Riley to to learn 1457 01:35:44.399 --> 01:35:50.640 from and as a mentor, you know what, it was great. I 1458 01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:56.760 wasn't very disciplined. Ken Riley was, So I needed Ken Riley to kind 1459 01:35:56.760 --> 01:36:00.359 of, you know, talk to me and and and and sot give me 1460 01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:03.359 some some guidance and think about Ken Rody, which lack of those. And 1461 01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:09.520 you know also that Kenny Rally came to Florida A and M. And he 1462 01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:12.479 had never played defensive back before in his life, not in high school, 1463 01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:16.439 not in college. He ends up being drafted, not playing quarterbacks, playing 1464 01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:21.000 defensive back in his sectye in the league he started sixty five interceptions later, 1465 01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:25.000 he's in the Hall of Fame. He should have been in earlier and all 1466 01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:30.199 that. But he was always in my ear, trying to help me the 1467 01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:33.880 best way he could. And if Ken Riley were alive today, he would 1468 01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:42.479 tell you he'd learned more about the position when Dick Lebou came than he ever 1469 01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:45.720 knew prior, because Dick lebo had played the game for a long time, 1470 01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:48.800 and Dick Clabo was obviously because he was great coordinator, but he was a 1471 01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:56.960 very astute. He really studied the game, and he didn't know he wasn't 1472 01:36:57.199 --> 01:37:00.199 He was a sticker for detail, but he did understand that you can't teach 1473 01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:03.920 every football player to do the same things, and so there is no one 1474 01:37:04.039 --> 01:37:09.760 size fits all for cornerback. Some quarterbacks cornerback can do certain things differently. 1475 01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:13.399 Some linemen can do things differently. So you allow for that, and you 1476 01:37:13.439 --> 01:37:15.079 can't be a stickert for saying, hey, you got to do this this 1477 01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:16.880 way. The guy may not be able to do it this way, but 1478 01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:20.920 he can do it another way, which may end up being the best way 1479 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:26.960 to possibly do it anyway. So Ken Riley was especially early on. He 1480 01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:30.000 was always in my ear. Always happened to me because quite frankly, when 1481 01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:34.800 I got here, I didn't have the best coaching. I'm not going to 1482 01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:41.479 mention the guy's name, but I mean he was a football coach, but 1483 01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:45.840 he didn't know the position. So I had to learn from and I had 1484 01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:47.159 to learn, David tell you, I had to learn from listening to Lamar 1485 01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:50.800 Paris. Lamar was here one year, but hey, Ryan was my coach 1486 01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:55.039 man for while he was here, and so I got too. I learned 1487 01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:59.079 and got up to speed Man because he's a very smart player. He helped 1488 01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:00.800 wide receivers, I mean quick cogwork. We tell you the story. Else 1489 01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:05.000 time Chris did something and kN Riley saw it and was able to maybe knock 1490 01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:08.479 the ball down and get it intercepting. He would come back to Chris that 1491 01:38:08.520 --> 01:38:13.199 said, Chris, this is what you did as basically dictated what you were 1492 01:38:13.239 --> 01:38:15.560 going to do. Other defensive backs are going to see this. You should 1493 01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:17.880 don't give it away. You got to find a way to do it. 1494 01:38:18.079 --> 01:38:21.800 And and that's how helpy he was on the football field, not just with 1495 01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:27.119 me defensively, but to wide receiver as well. And I'll tell you that 1496 01:38:27.119 --> 01:38:30.479 that that's a valuable teammate when you know behind the scenes all the things that 1497 01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:34.199 that Ken Riley did that people will never know, people never understand, you 1498 01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:39.640 know, but teammates they sure do. No question about that. You mentioned 1499 01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:44.199 Dick Lebow, Dick la Bowl with the fire zone, the zone blitz stuff. 1500 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:46.479 I mean he started all that. He was he was the creator and 1501 01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:51.680 now it's a huge, huge element and something everybody in the NFL uses to 1502 01:38:51.720 --> 01:38:57.520 be a guy that that changed the game like that. That's an amazing thing 1503 01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:02.279 for Dick Lebow. Let me tell you worry about that were here and tell 1504 01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:05.920 you something about how creative and how his mind when he worked. But he's 1505 01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:14.399 always looking for things and some things just happened just by watching sim Uh. 1506 01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:16.119 We had a ball player we run a cover two, which is a zone. 1507 01:39:16.439 --> 01:39:18.479 He had a cover to man as well with this man. And we 1508 01:39:18.479 --> 01:39:21.520 have a particular player I'm not gonna call his name again who had a tough 1509 01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:26.399 time on game day because he was so focused. We were toll cover too, 1510 01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:29.640 which is the zone, and he was on the slot guy and he 1511 01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:33.159 would always run with that guy and he's he's the only guy running with this 1512 01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:35.439 guy. And then we come to the sidelines, why did you run with 1513 01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:38.800 this guy? And then the boat would get on me and look and get 1514 01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:40.680 tell him. I said, yeah, I mentioned it to and blah blah 1515 01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:43.560 blah. And we'd go back out there and he'd do the same thing again. 1516 01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:45.720 And he did it throughout the season and one day and it would mess 1517 01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:48.880 up the zone when you have one guy out of place running around the field, 1518 01:39:48.920 --> 01:39:51.199 chasing the guy all over the field. So one day we're watching film, 1519 01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:57.039 watching tim you know day when you're watching the them and the coach is 1520 01:39:57.039 --> 01:39:59.439 not saying anything. He's just watching back and forth. But you don't know 1521 01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:02.119 who who who he is watching. You're just hoping he's not going to get 1522 01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:05.600 on your buddy. So finally he looked at something and he says, you 1523 01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:10.640 know what. He called the player's name. He said, you messed up 1524 01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:15.000 this place all the damn time, but you know what, it's a great 1525 01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:18.840 defense. What happened was when you're playing Cover two and the slot guy, 1526 01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:23.880 whether it's the tight end or the slot receiver, they can get down the 1527 01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:26.760 middle of the field immediately, and that could mess up your zone because you're 1528 01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:29.880 too deep, and that could hurt your safe season, your corners who were 1529 01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:32.840 playing up. You needed someone to hit and run with this guy, maybe 1530 01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:39.000 twenty twenty five yards to prevent this guy to getting downfield. That just happened 1531 01:40:39.039 --> 01:40:45.199 accidentally, and he coordinated that into to our defense and he named it after 1532 01:40:45.239 --> 01:40:53.359 the guy. So I think the guys still mess it up, but we 1533 01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:57.439 had a defense and admit that anyone who was on that slot guy would happen 1534 01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:00.840 to run with this guy. Vic de Bo. He was a very smart 1535 01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:05.760 guy. Really another story with me, Zcobo would allow me to do some 1536 01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:11.880 things that he wouldn't allow anyone else to do. That's right. He believed 1537 01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:15.279 in not one size fits all, right, because he saw that I can 1538 01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:18.039 do it just by yeah, and I did it, not knowing I did 1539 01:41:18.079 --> 01:41:20.720 it. He said, Louis, you should do that more often, you 1540 01:41:20.760 --> 01:41:26.279 know, because when you do that, he gives you an advantage. He 1541 01:41:26.319 --> 01:41:28.920 wouldn't let anyone else do it, but he allowed me to do it. 1542 01:41:28.960 --> 01:41:31.960 So he was very creative and that's what made him good because he saw things 1543 01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:35.439 and he would utalize him. He knew what worked and what didn't, and 1544 01:41:35.479 --> 01:41:40.880 he wasn't a stickler for one size fits all. Right, Lewis, I 1545 01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:43.439 got one more for you. And I found this last night. And I've 1546 01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:46.199 never asked you about this, but I've always loved this show. In nineteen 1547 01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:50.039 eighty two, you were part of a Bengals team that went to Hawaii to 1548 01:41:50.079 --> 01:41:55.640 compete in the Team Superstars against the forty nine ers. You beat the forty 1549 01:41:55.720 --> 01:41:59.520 nine ers, you lost to the A's. What was that experience like as 1550 01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:03.680 part of the Angles Team Superstars for ABC? It was great, but it 1551 01:42:03.720 --> 01:42:08.680 was also embarrassing too, man, because, Uh, some of the events, 1552 01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:12.560 Man, some of the guys like, we had some swimming events and 1553 01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:15.319 some of the guys who claimed, now I can't swim, I'm not aquatic 1554 01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:19.199 at all, man, So I knew that I wouldn't be any good in 1555 01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:23.600 any swimming events unless the event was drowning, then that would be very good 1556 01:42:23.640 --> 01:42:28.960 at so so what what some of the and some of the guys we put 1557 01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:30.560 in there weren't very good swimmings. They beat the hell out of the water 1558 01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:34.359 out of but they weren't very good swimmers. And one of the and and 1559 01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:39.439 what was so embarrassing about that whole thing was we lost. I guess we've 1560 01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:45.760 a little through the darts of the age. We lost. And the final 1561 01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:49.880 event what the Tuggle War event. Everyone just predicted we were going to win, 1562 01:42:51.560 --> 01:42:56.119 but we lost the Tuggle wall man, can you believe that football players 1563 01:42:56.119 --> 01:43:00.359 tuggle water a bunch of baseball players? So don't ever mention that I was 1564 01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:05.640 on that team. But no, that was that was a great event. 1565 01:43:05.680 --> 01:43:10.039 I had a chance to meet some of the uh like Reggie Jackson and some 1566 01:43:10.159 --> 01:43:14.439 of those guys guys I've seen on on TV play I never met before. 1567 01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:17.319 It was in Hawaii. Got a chance to go to Hawaii for the first 1568 01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:23.920 time. Everything was paid for because Hawaii is expensive attecht SO. But we 1569 01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:29.039 had a great time and uh Collins worked the Curis was there as some of 1570 01:43:29.079 --> 01:43:30.840 the other guys. We had a we had a blast. Man. It 1571 01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:34.960 was a good time. Yeah. And you're right watching the the aquatic events. 1572 01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:38.439 Uh, they were sinking like Plymouth Rock. You're right, man, 1573 01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:45.279 Plymouth Rock boy. I can't I can't swim man, keep me out of 1574 01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:48.399 the water to day. I got you. Hey, this this was a 1575 01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:51.039 treat. Thanks for making time for us. Always good, catch it up, 1576 01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:57.039 always good. Uh talking to you guys. Uh, guys and that 1577 01:43:57.199 --> 01:44:00.920 uh anytime you want me on uh you know, but appreciate ch excellent. 1578 01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:03.279 Thank you, Lewis. Lewis Breeden joining us on Bengals Line of the first 1579 01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:11.640 Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network at seven hundred WLW. We keep moving along Bengals 1580 01:44:11.720 --> 01:44:14.000 Line the name of the show. We do it on the first Star Logistics 1581 01:44:14.039 --> 01:44:17.239 Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Lands back Aleister davel Appham. Hey, 1582 01:44:17.239 --> 01:44:20.039 Bengals fans, make sure to catch me and Dan Hord every Wednesday this 1583 01:44:20.079 --> 01:44:24.520 season for Bengals Game Plan presented by Bud Light on the air from six to 1584 01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:29.960 eight pm on ESPN fifteen thirty and Bengals fans on Fridays, make sure to 1585 01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:33.880 listen to myself and Dan Horde or Box Miller from Bengals pep rally presented by 1586 01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:38.680 Wings and Rings on the air from three to six pm on the ESPN fifteen 1587 01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:43.239 thirty Dave final thought on the Pittsburgh Steelers. They get out to gained again 1588 01:44:43.319 --> 01:44:45.159 yesterday by the Browns two fifty nine, two forty nine. All is not 1589 01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:48.760 well, Najee Harris after the game. I'm just at a point where I'm 1590 01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:53.920 tired of this blank. He carried twelve times for thirty five yards. He 1591 01:44:53.960 --> 01:44:57.680 says. I couldn't get things going. It seems like every time I got 1592 01:44:57.680 --> 01:45:00.560 it, it seemed like the defense was playing to minimize my role. Is 1593 01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:03.640 it fixable? Yeah? Are we gonna fix it? He says blank again. 1594 01:45:04.239 --> 01:45:08.279 I hear there was a lot of I and me in those statements that 1595 01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:10.840 would you lead to lead you to think that all is not well with him. 1596 01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:13.600 But the Steelers right now, I think there's a little bit of jealousy 1597 01:45:13.640 --> 01:45:17.239 with Warren's success. I mean, Warren's averaging six point two of Carrie Nause, 1598 01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:21.279 He's averaging three point nine. Warren busted the seventy four yard touchdown. 1599 01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:27.720 Warren made more big plays than Harris made in that in the most recent football 1600 01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:30.640 game against the Cleveland Browns. So Harris is starting to moan about the fact 1601 01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:36.479 that Hey, Warren is eating into my my opportunity in my playing time, 1602 01:45:36.520 --> 01:45:41.680 and that's not something that you want to be addressed in the public. There's 1603 01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:45.439 no two ways about that. Right now, the Pittsburgh Steelers are six and 1604 01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:50.840 one and one score games, and they're also they've won six games by being 1605 01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:56.279 out gained, but they've also lost four by being outgained. It's amazing ten 1606 01:45:56.319 --> 01:46:00.439 football games, every single opponent has gained more yards. Don't be the one 1607 01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:04.439 that breaks that streak. Final thoughts. Next Bengals Line on the First Star 1608 01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:11.800 Logistics Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW, Rolling down the stretch, final 1609 01:46:11.840 --> 01:46:15.760 segment of the Night Bengals Line, First Star Logistics Bengals Radio Networks seven hundred 1610 01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:20.840 WLW lands but Cantleister Dave Lapham and this segment of Bengals Line is presented by 1611 01:46:20.840 --> 01:46:25.960 Betford's Sportsbook, the official sports betting partner of the Cincinnati Bengals, and pay 1612 01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:30.119 Corps, who is proud to be the official HR provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1613 01:46:30.199 --> 01:46:32.720 Dave I Love in the Trenches tell everybody about in the Trenches. In 1614 01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:38.600 the Trenches is a podcast that you can find on YouTube and anywhere you get 1615 01:46:38.680 --> 01:46:42.640 your podcasts. And what we do is it's all Bengals, all the time, 1616 01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:45.960 and we talk to current and former players. We talked to current and 1617 01:46:46.039 --> 01:46:53.239 former opponents of the Cincinnati Bengals, We talked to current and former media members 1618 01:46:53.800 --> 01:46:58.680 covering the National Football League. Try to give every perspective we can on the 1619 01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:01.560 upcoming opponent and what the Bengals are doing, how their season is tracking, 1620 01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:05.600 and various and a sundry other topics NFL related. It's a lot of fun. 1621 01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:09.199 Love it to love it every week. Hey, thanks to everybody for 1622 01:47:09.439 --> 01:47:13.279 joining us today. Man Ken Anderson and Anthony Munoz and Lewis Breeden, lou 1623 01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:16.159 Anarumo and Brian Callahan enjoyed the conversation. Hope you did as well. We're 1624 01:47:16.199 --> 01:47:20.119 back here next week to talk Bengals Steelers, Wrap that up and look ahead 1625 01:47:20.119 --> 01:47:25.079 to Jacksonville. It's Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and 1626 01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:26.640 seven hundred WLW