This is Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee Matthews Podcast more what you hear
weekday afternoons on the Drive Any Reason. Samantha McVay are good friends of iHeartMedia
and the iHeartMedia app as they are the co hosts and producers of Stuff Mom
Never Told You, among other podcasts which you can hear wherever you get podcast
and the iHeartRadio app. Annie Reese and Samantha McVeigh. Welcome. Annie.
I want to start with you stuff Mom Never told Me. There are volumes
of things moms and mom never told me. Yeah, except and there are
volumes of things recovered on the podcast in this book. Just to help you
for you well, Samantha, we're not talking about those those birds and the
bees things, or are we? I mean, we could be talking about
a lot of the things that include the birds and the bees. Good.
We want to be very open about all this conversation. We've been having this
conversation four years, so yes, it could include that, but we could
also talk about why women are struggling in the workforce, why women eating wine,
drinking wine over beer, maybe more sexless than you'd think. All these
kinds of conversations we include in our podcast, in our book, I'm drinking
beer. I'm drinking wine more often now than beer. I don't know if
it's because I'm aging out of the beer demographic or because I started resenting the
gut it was giving me there about any one of those things, any reasons,
Amana McVay stuff, Mom never told you this was a book before a
podcast, Annie, what brought you from one to the other. Well,
honestly, I've been doing this for over a decade, and the podcast specifically,
and we've tried all kinds of things. We've tried video, we've tried
blogs, and it just seems like a natural next step. I personally love
writing, and we wanted to both reach out to people who haven't heard the
podcast, who maybe don't listen to podcasts, because we want to share our
message and mission with them, but also we wanted to give our listeners,
who our show would not exist, We wanted to give them. It's almost
a love letter to our audience who helped us build this and it was shaped
by them, and so it feels like a beautiful evolution. I suppose,
Samantha, what do you think is one of the more profound things you have
revealed in the podcast Stuff Mom Never Told You. Is there one thing in
particular that stands out for you? You know, there's so many things.
One of the biggest lessons that I learned is the beginning of feminism that did
not happen with the Suffragets, necessarily, that it happened with the Hut and
a show any nation that is still existent today has been around the for the
you know, America, United States was the United States, and how they
paved the way for feminism and why we should be looking at them as the
matriarch and the example that dear God, we wish we had today And how
so, I mean, is there something that they did in that tribe that
was more profound than anything being done today? Honestly, they looked to the
women, to the mothers, to those who were leading as the examples as
being the leadership and following suit. They had one of the most peaceful nations
as well as one of the most central governments that they could have by following
suit with the matriarch. As we talked about before, and we even shout
out that example in the book when we talk about the Suffragette movement and how
they opened up the way, but they really really understood the law of following
women as they were talking about peace or war or when to move on and
how to duel out conflict. It's such an amazing part of history that we
all should be talking about it so much more and giving them so much more
credit. Well, and I also know because of our heritage here in this
state when it comes to tribes and tribal culture, that it wasn't just that
tribe, the Chickasaws as well. We're very matriarch are very matriarchal to this
day. Yes, yes they are, and it's a beautiful thing. I
really wish that we could have more of an in depth study and just really
carry it over to our Congress. That would be a beautiful play. The
podcast stuff Mom Never Told You. It's available on the iHeartRadio app and everywhere
you get podcast any recent symanthe mcvayh or the hosts any I mean, when
you first read the title of the podcast, it's almost like a Okay,
wear a hat so you don't catch pneumonia, frogs won't give you wards.
Prince Charming does not indeed exist. It's true, and I think the original
idea behind the title things we feel are taboo or that we can't talk about,
and that conversation has shifted because once again, this podcast hasn't been around
for over a decade, which makes me feel a certain way. But I
think that it's things that you feel that you didn't get when you were a
kid, because I think the inclusion of that is very like, oh,
when I was a kid, I didn't know this, and I wish that
I had. And so that's kind of that's the idea is that I've talked
about this a lot before, but I started working on this podcast right when
I got out of college, and I wish I had known. I wish
I had known a lot of it, most of it when I was a
kid. And it's that's our hope with this, the podcast and the book
is that we can reach someone in that way where you'll build not feel as
alone, and they'll feel illuminated and even some joy of like, oh I
just didn't know that. Uh So that's that's that's our goal and I'm hoping
that we achieved it. Samanthem McVeigh i mentioned Prince Charming. Do you get
into relationships at all? So we don't really talk about relationships in this book,
because it's not something that we looked at as a political shaping of what's
happening today. We talk a lot about the civil rights movements. We talk
a lot about the pants suit revolution when we talk about how women in Congress
we're not allowed to wear pants until nineteen ninety six ninety seven. But we
do get dumped into a lot more of that conversation. And then and Annie
does some amazing things with fictional characters and bringing that fact that we don't necessarily
need Prince Charming because there are their own heroes or anti heroes. Any recent
Samanthe McVay, the book and podcast stuff. Mom never told you. I've
got a difficult question, but I think it's a fair question, and I
want to get both of you to spawn to it, if you will.
I have not seen any any proponents of feminism comments on the likes of Dylan
mulvaney. And I don't mean the likes of the Dylan mulvaney in relation to
his trans I mean the likes of the Dylan mulvaney the way he makes women
appear. I maybe I am and in the closet feminist, but I see
the way he makes women appear, and I'm offended. I don't know any
female that walks around and talks like that. First, is it she?
Because she is a transgender woman, So we definitely want to emphasize that we
respect her pronouns and we I don't understand what she is doing has affect to
me because I don't necessarily I have the same way is Annie. Annie and
I are two very different people, and yet we were assigned female at birth,
and that's not something I Every woman's different. My mother and I are
very very different, and I don't necessarily see her as my example of being
what a woman is. So maybe I'm a little off on this because I
don't think Dylan mulvaney is an example the only example of women. And if
we were all put down to one type of example, I would be really,
really sad because I would not meet with anyone's standards. I am a
very vocal and different person. I am an Asian woman, I'm an adoptee.
There's so many things under my identity that to have to say that one
person, one woman, one transgender woman, is a representative seems kind of
misleading. Well, that's a fair answer, Annie, Do you have any
comment, Uh yeah, I agree, because I I feel like there's a
lot of context that I would need to give a fuller answer. But I
would say, like, you know, women dress differently, acts differently,
and that that's kind of the beauty of it. I mean, it's not
one size fits all. So I would say, as long as there is
uh, you know, not not disrespecting other women, then that's that's my
view. Very good answers, and I thank you both for braving the question.
Annie Reese and Samanda McVay. You can see they don't shy away from
any of the topics in their book Stuff Mom Never Told You. The podcast
available everywhere you get podcasts, including the iHeartRadio app. Ladies, thank you
for your time today, thank you for having us, Thanks for listening to
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