WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.520 Well, I think Kevin, like you and I grew up in rural areas 2 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:06.919 in Texas and it's a different mindset out there. You know. I grew 3 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:12.359 up handling guns, being trained by my uncle and my dad on proper safety 4 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:16.800 and knew how knew what was appropriate, what wasn't appropriate. Don't ever point 5 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:21.359 your gun. It's something you're not ready to kill, you know, and 6 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:23.879 all of that sort. I mean owning guns. Is an eight year old 7 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:27.239 having a twenty two rifle and a shotgun and a four to ten shotgun. 8 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:30.760 When I was eight years old and had the trust of the people that trained 9 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.079 me to use them, to be able to take them out on my own, 10 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:37.600 it was just normal. And for centuries or centuries, but you know, 11 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:41.079 for a one hundred and fifty years or so in this country, those 12 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:44.479 areas that's the life, you know, and it's okay, and it's fine. 13 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:48.960 It's the big cities that are the problems. But then again, I 14 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:53.280 think you kind of have to You have to look at each area or each 15 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:57.000 state and realize where these problems are at. These problems aren't really happening in 16 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.960 rural areas in smaller towns, except maybe uve all day could be one of 17 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:04.280 those things. But look, then you get the people that will say, 18 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:08.879 in New York there was a shooting that happened on a subway, what probably 19 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.799 happens all the time. And then you see the comment section it's like, 20 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.560 yeah, and New York has the highest gun control, one of the highest 21 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.840 gun control, the measures put in place in that city. And then the 22 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.239 comment section will say, yep, a lot of good the gun control laws 23 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.879 it up there. It's like, yeah, you're right, it's an impossible 24 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.760 horse to put back in that barn if that's what you're inclined to want to 25 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:34.359 do, because there are so many weapons out there that you can get any 26 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:40.200 time you want. You talked about stealing a car yesterday. It's easier to 27 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.200 get a gun than it is to steal a car. Oh yeah, ease, 28 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:49.319 far more easy, is it? Eighteen? Do we know? I 29 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:51.239 mean, like, is that a fair? Like? Can we just say 30 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:53.400 do we know? The law enforcements? On? Hold? If you want 31 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:59.400 to talk to someone from law enforcement? Hello, law enforcement? Yes er, 32 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:01.519 how are you? Hi? I'm good, Harry Man. Hi. 33 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:07.239 I was calling a reference to you all discussion on the Casey Parade incident. 34 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:10.960 Yeah, and where a lot of the victims are essentially collateral damage from the 35 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:15.639 two knuckle heads that we're going back and back. Essentially, what might have 36 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:20.599 happened was that they could have had what was called tunnel vision. Whenever you 37 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:27.639 have an adrenaline dump, your body loses certain aspects of mobility, to include 38 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:31.919 tunnel vision, which you lose peripheral vision and you're focus on your target or 39 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:38.520 whatever you're directed at, and you also lose auditorial exclusion, which means that 40 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:45.759 you kind of lose your hearing. Innocence in law enforcement, we're trying to 41 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:51.759 kind of push past that and hopefully overcome that to when any other any other 42 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:57.400 advices being hit. But that could be part of the reason why they why 43 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:02.039 that happens, if it wasn't just them going after those innocent people. That's 44 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:07.120 fascinating. A term like tunnel vision that we all know. I've never thought 45 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.000 of how literally that's kind of what that means. And the fact that there 46 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:15.599 is a term that police know and apply that sort of reaction, that's excellent. 47 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:21.280 It is so I've been through it myself, and it's crazy how you 48 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:27.080 just kind of you kind of are fixated on whatever you're you're focused on at 49 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.560 that moment, and you just have to kind of snap out of that to 50 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:37.199 avoid any any other collateral damage so to speak, or injury to yourself or 51 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:40.639 another officer. That's fascinating. And you combine that and and man explained to 52 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:49.199 our listeners, you're being a trained officer that is probably highly trained in firearms, 53 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.240 especially handguns. You combine that with youth, the the adrenaline dump that 54 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:58.400 results in this tunnel vision phenomenon, and then the fact that these kids that 55 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:02.520 are out there running around with guns have zero real training on accuracy. How 56 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:10.080 freaking hard it is to to hit your your your object target with a handgun, 57 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.479 even at a fairly close range. You've got to be really good and 58 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:17.920 really trained to be able to do that. Yeah, that's uh, to 59 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:24.319 be shooting in that Huh. That high of a population at that moment is 60 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:30.680 stupid at so many levels. I mean, as for law enforcement, we're 61 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:35.800 kind of we're kind of our accountability level for every round that we fire is 62 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:39.800 there. So for every round that we fire, for whatever incident it might 63 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:46.279 be, we're held held accountable. So it's important that we get every round 64 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:50.680 on target. And of course, these kids or whoever they were they're not 65 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:57.360 being held accountable. They don't really look at the overall aspect, and this 66 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.639 is the unfortunate outcome to it. Yeah, and it's one thing to be 67 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.480 in a controlled environment and the proper stance with a proper grip, you know, 68 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:08.600 firing at a target that's whatever twenty feet or thirty feet away, as 69 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:13.680 opposed to some kid running running and running backwards with a gun turned sideways, 70 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.920 not even really looking at his target. That's not gonna work. Wow. 71 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:25.759 Side alignement, proper stance, proper grip and all that plays rolling of the 72 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:28.279 outcome where that ron's going to go. And of course these kids don't. 73 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:31.240 Thanks for calling in, dude, that's that's really interesting. Inside. Had 74 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.600 no idea about the tunnel vision aspect of that. You hit that siren for 75 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:39.680 us one time, I'm sorry, hit that siren real quick one time. 76 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:44.639 Oh man, I'm a detective. Okay, Oh well, don't you reach 77 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:46.439 out and put that on top of your car like in the Rocker Files. 78 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.680 No, man, I see, I'm a I'm in cide and I uh, 79 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:56.279 I don't drive a marked unit anymore. And I'm actually just pulling out 80 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:00.120 to work right now, so I'm not in my service vehicle. Awesome. 81 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.319 Do you mind if we put you on hold and get your info in case 82 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:06.079 we have any detective questions ever, every once in a while, Yes, 83 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:11.279 sir, go ahead. Cool, okay, thank you so much. Detective. 84 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:15.439 That's very interesting. I mean, that's like a great, perfect explanation 85 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.800 of exactly what we asked. That's interesting.