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You know what time it is,
Gates Wad after dark. It's coming to

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y'all live from Los Angeles for Summer
Game Fest. Apparently they gave us the

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keys to the to our LA studio
here at the Phantom Office. Well,

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no, they didn't give you the
keys, oh they did. They didn't

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give me the key specifically, y'all
got keys, but I didn't because I

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don't even know if I work here. But you know what, we're gonna

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do this thing. Well, Kurt
also didn't get Kurt. Yeah, so

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I don't feel so definitely works here. Although the more I talked to him

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today, I'm gonn even see it's
not a real person, No, because

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it was Kurt wasn't even man the
myth, the legends. Literally, whatever

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he tells you, keep your head
on a swivel. I can't trust that,

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dude. But yes, we're here
covering Summer Game Fest. We just

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got off of covering the SGF official
stream, and we saw some things that

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may have leaked as well afterwards,
which well we'll get to you'll talk about.

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We'll talk about certain people in here
are enjoyers of a I said thing,

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But yeah, you did you ever
see it coming? I saw it.

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I saw it coming. Anyway,
I'm your house for this week,

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Michael Higham, and this is a
very special episode. We got real swat

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episode because I am joined by Jacob
Decker. Hello, Hello, Jean Luke

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psype, and finally, my good
friend Jess Howard is in the building on

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Thank God. I'm so happy that
you're on here, Jess. I feel

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like be here. Yeah, I
feel like we've we've been needing to or

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we've been wanting to clap for a
minute. Yeah, and finally I knows.

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Yeah. Yeah. So I think
the first time I came in contact

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with you, you were doing a
story for I feel what you're doing.

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But it was about PERSONA four.
Oh it was for Uppercut. Yeah,

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okay, so it was for Uppercut. Yeah, and it was about problematic

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phase I think or some sh Yeah, it was. It was about like

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in PERSONA five. How the whole
theme of it is is like adult adolescence

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is like adults who who kind of
abuse their power, especially over the younger

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generation. And then it kind of
makes it weird that you can have sex

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with a teacher and those are allowed
to say that. Oh I don't know,

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I'm just kidding. That you can
have relations with, you know,

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a teacher and a doctor and like
older women when the whole like first arc

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is about Predator. But anyway,
yeah, yeah, well yeah great that

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those are the pretenses in which we
we we met each other. But yeah,

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I think it's wild to like have
seen your trajectory through games media and

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then you landing at GameSpot. I'm
just like hell, yeah, yeah,

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it's good to be here. So
yeah, Justice in the building covering SGF

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alongside all of us here and if
y'all were covering or watching our coverage,

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we had pre and post shows for
the SGF stream. You all saw Kurt,

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Tam and Lucy. They're on business
right now. So now the kids

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can play. Yeah yeah, so
but yeah, a stream we're gonna talk

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about Are we gonna talk about games
we've been playing when we've been There's one

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game I do want to talk about
that John Luke and I have been playing

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that We talk about last yea and
even last week. You asked me and

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like, so, what have you
been playing there? Anything on the tackground?

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I was like nah, And I
was like wait a second, no,

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there is I do that all the
time. We're like, oh,

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I'll be like, I mean,
I can't wait to talk abound on the

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podcast immediately forget it. Yeah,
and then the second the podcast as I'm

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like, fuck, yeah, I
should have talked about that. Okay,

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I'm hyped up now. So I
guess we can talk about video games per

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minute and then we'll probably like do
a highlights roundup of Yeah, what's thet

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to us? Yeah, and we'll
save the best for last. Totally shit

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that. I feel like you should
should just say the leak now it happened,

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because okay, yeah, I think
we should get out of this number

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one. Also, you know,
strike while the iron's hot, isn't that

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the phrase? Sure? I mean
I don't know, I've rother wrench in

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the fire, throw a wrench in
the fire. Will we tell you the

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PR team through a wrench in the
fire accidentally revealed it. Yeah. So

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Persona three Reload is the remake and
it's it's real. Yeah bam, because

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they shooting they have themselves in the
more fucking head yo, that's fucking yeah.

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Persona three is wild. So I
think I feel like I've said this

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many times, is when I finished
Persona three, like it's it's a very

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special game. To me, it's
what I say, Jake, Persona five

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rolls my favorite game of all time. Persona three is my favorite Persona so

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and it's weird because that totally makes
sense. Don't don't know, don't eat

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into this, don't Persona is like
metal Gear. We're like depending on like

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the mood I'm in, like my
favorite game change, it's like, oh,

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you know, like and I feel
real depressed Persona three. Yeah,

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yeah, I feel I felt feeling
bold. Yeah, like I want to

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I want to fight the system and
fight God. Yeah, Persona five maybe

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if I if I'm murder you.
I think that's what's so cool about Persona

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three getting this remake though, is
because I mean I reviewed it for game

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Spot earlier this year, and I
think that one of the things I said

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in my review because it was my
first time playing it, is narratively like

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it might be the best Persona game
I've played, because I think that it's

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just really strong and the emotional beats
that it hits, and like even some

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of the side characters like I'm like
the dying man and oh my gosh,

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like it just like yeah, yeah, especially like coming from the perspective of

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a new mom when I did that
storyline because the last like his tenth thing.

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Well, I'm not gonna spoil stuf
actually he has, right, but

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like, oh my gosh, Yeah, there's just some really good emotional beats

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in that game. And like Persona
five, I get what you mean by

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being your favorite game because it has
it's like polished, and it has a

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cool style, and it has it
just has the modern trimmings right, and

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it has these characters that feel very
much like people you know, where I

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feel like three is a little bit
more abstract, but I feel like if

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it gets that treatment, like it
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Could Yeah. I do have a
question though, because you were talking about

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person I mean earlier before we even
saw the leaked announcement. You're talking about

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just Persona three in general talking about
it, and you're saying that that one

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is much darker. Yeah. Do
you think, like, based on that

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trailer that this looks as dark because
I feel like that's on A five style

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is a little more. Yeah,
there's a there's an upbeat feature the way

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you think, So from what it's
hard to say at this point, to

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me, it felt like they were
keeping with the tone of there is a

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lot of silly shit in Persona three. Yeah it's three. Yeah, Yeah,

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definitely. It still has a lot
of levity and a lot of the

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darker emotional stuff comes from just like
some of the story beats and the the

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arcs of the characters go through.
And if this remake is true to that,

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then it will strike the same tone. I believe. Yeah that that

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trailer leaked shortly after the SGF stream. Yeah, and shit was brazy.

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Man, Like, I've been thinking
about this ship. I've been thinking about

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a three remake for so long,
and I would I would walk around I

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said this on the PlayStation stream,
but I would pace around my apartment and

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just like daydream of what a reveal
trailer would look like, what a what

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a three remake would look like.
In the five style, especially when Dancing

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and Moonlight came out, it was
like they made they made, made the

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environments, you made the assets,
built the game around it, which is

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probably what they did. Yeah,
that was like the Blueprinter it could have

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been. Yeah. So the lead
trailer started with I Gus on the beach,

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which is one of the scenes in
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one of the songs. It's her. Oh yes, it's not dancing in

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this game in three reload, but
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from its Moonlight. That's great because
those character models are one they're lovely.

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Yeah, and they're great, And
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again. I want to do I'll
do like a trailer breakdown or some shit.

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Yeah, but I yeah, I
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wish it was kind of like a
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Sure, yeah, that's it is
what it is? Yeah, yeah,

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well because it's like I mean,
so today was like the Big League

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where we saw footage. But I
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been talked about for months now at
this point like yeah, that that's too

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And as as time has gone on, the more I'm like, I I

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wouldn't be surprised, like like if
it came out of nowhere, like that's

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what's up, but it was less
less surprised. It's more like what's what

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are the what is it going to
look like? Yeah, I was gonna

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say, I still have a lot
of questions because I think, like you

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know, they it seems from the
trailer that we're not going to get that

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female protagonists real bummer because I think
just like her writing and her social links

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are like much much better, much
better than they were. But you know,

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they might rewrite a lot of this
stuff. Like that's the thing.

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I'm like, I hope they rewrite
stuff. I hope they like change up

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the pacing because like Tartar's needs an
overhaul, Tartar's needs an overhall. I

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was talking about it with Kurt where
it's just like, yeah, like it

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was the first time they did all
of the calendar years school system that you

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know, Persona to have started with
three. Yeah, so like the original

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three, especially Portable, kind of
like improved it. But the original three,

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like some of the pacing was like
kind of whack, like like like

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you if you if you play that
game right like the final month, you

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have nothing to do. Yeah,
you're just like skipping days. And there's

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definitely yea world about it. So
like there's a lot of ways they could

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like improve upon it. I'm also
curious if they would add like the Answer

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storyline, which is like the Answer
which is it was like blog that they

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added for which is It's interesting.
It's like I like I like some of

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the story beats they do. Also, the music is fantastic, fantastic,

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yeah, because that's where Hartful cry. Yeah, playing it is kind of

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a slog and I'm not like the
biggest fan of the actual like playing through

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the answer, but I do like
some of the like story beats that they

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put in it, and it yeah, and it adds. It's like a

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nice capper, Like it's a nice
conclusion I think, because like not to

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get into it, but like some
of three ends in a way where it

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ends in a good way, but
like it definitely like leaves you with a

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couple of like quest class you might
want to have answers answer the answers,

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so it's there to answer your question. So I'm kind of curious if they

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integrate that how yeah, how they're
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If they don't, I also think
it could be fine because again I do

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think three on its own, Three
on its own, I guess. So

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maybe we're at a point again where
it's it's kind of the Final Fantasy seven

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remake thing where yeah, I guess
there's like a new embargo on the spoilers

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that everyone's going to kind of follow
an institute. Yeah, all themselves,

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because I mean this game has been
out for many, many, many years.

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But but yeah, it's a I'm
I'm I'm tripping about it. No,

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I'm cool because continue. But there
was another leak too that really well

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it was it was that other Persona
game that was Tactica Persona five Tactica.

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Oh, I think the trailer I
didn't want live feed right now. This

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happened at the same time. I
didn't watch the trailer for it, but

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I imagine it is a Persona five
Tactics. It was like a farm sort

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of. Yeah, but it's got
like a cheap because there's an indie game

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coming out called Demon School and it's
like a tactics basically Persona game where you

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play, and so I'm like,
oh, that's interesting that that's happening right

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now. I mean, even like
three Houses kind of felt like it was

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starting to like borrow. Certain like
the time management aspect of it makes a

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lot of sense. Yeah, but
the thing like collecting the demons and stuff,

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what are they called them, person
of the Forsona stuff. I think

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collecting those and like using them on
in a Tactics game I think could be

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a pretty cool idea. Yeah,
yeah, I mean those characters. Again,

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I feel like watched the trailer,
so I don't know, like how

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heavy into the story it seems.
But three is definitely going to be the

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highlight of you know, whenever they
choose to officially show that. But yeah,

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I don't know. I uh.
I feel like a sense of relief

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now that it is like confirmed that
is actually a thing, rather than in

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my mind just like thinking about the
ship every day. And I played myself

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earlier during Summer games Fest because they
had a trailer for Summer game Fest.

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Summer game Fest. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sees one game, really

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the one game. Don't don't be
greedy, they should lie as a pee.

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And it opens with like a butterfly. Oh yeah, just like Persona's

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whole thing, and so I was
like, what's happening And I was like,

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Oh, it's just the Pinocchio thing, which I'm also exciting four,

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but I was like lies of Persona. I got myself, Oh my god.

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But yeah, a lot of questions
I think for P three reload,

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Like you said, I feel like
they would have to rewrite a lot of

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stuff because some of it is outdated
in like tone, especially with you know,

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June pay and some of the social
links, and also I would just

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like to see more stuff, you
know as well. It's just like new

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things, like you know, yeah, so go wild ooh boy. They

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said that trailer, the lead trailer
says early twenty twenty four. Yeah,

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yeah, I hope I'm alive by
then We're still around and say by then

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what or what by then or like
at that time? Oh my god.

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So but yeah, that was that
was leaked, but like that was not

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part of official f f GC what
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what does anything anyone want to bring
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about seven rebirths. I was gonna
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yeah, why not? Okay,
sure, I mean I was pretty excited

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for Ellen Wake. I think seeing
more act actual gameplay and like, I

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know, I think I heard them
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to be more horror focused, like
more survival horror, but actually seeing the

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game play and being like, oh, this is heavily inspired by those Resident

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Evil remakes too, in particular,
which I'm totally okay with, you know,

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like I'd be super curious what Remedy
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everyone's talking about the story because that's
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fair, that's what I'm most excited
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like I think that perspective in particular
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you know, whipping out the flash
flight to reveal the weak spots or whatever

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and pop them. But yeah,
that that looks pretty clean. It was

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good. It's such like a natural
evolution for them too. I mean,

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because like playing I mean I've only
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Alan Wake and then American Nightmare and
Control, and it's like they're so horror

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adjacent, like the supernatural kind of
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like this is a very natural evolution,

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and I feel like they're going to
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traditional horror or like the psychological horror
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Control was even Max Payne and when
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the other week, that there's there's
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the REMEDIESE games. Yeah. Yeah, but it's never been at the forefront

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necessarily, but even the first Alan
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up has called like a scary action
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call it horror. To me,
it is, I like, especially like

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if you're someone who's terrified of like
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the unknown like that games that games
pretty scary. Yeah, So I hope

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it's a little goofy though, you
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be. But I'm excited Sam Lake's
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like the interesting weird things. Yeah, they decided to do because yeah,

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I think that's the stuff with Alan
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world that he's in. I've heard
there's a name for it. There is

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I can't remember. I want to
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to say the outside down. It's
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where some of like the real weird, trippy cool stuff will be. Yeah.

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I mean I feel like, well
we saw it at the during the

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PlayStation stuff, but it was nice
to see Sam Lake on stage kind of

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showing explaining that game a little bit
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Dark Place, the Dark play.
Okay, that's alway too U. Seven

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rebirth was probably it was the Yeah, I know, I know you're Yeah,

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I mean, we are all very
very happy. And I've thought a

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lot about as I've replayed seven the
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seven remake kind of it takes itself
quite seriously. There's a lot of goofy

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shit that happens between Midgar like after
Midgar in the original. Seven. Yeah,

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there's a lot of goofy shit that
helped. Yeah, they're thinking about

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how they're gonna incorporate fucking Hojo chill
on a beach, yeah, shit like

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that. And yeah, because i
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it looks like this will take us
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right, because I saw you saw
Jenen and you see like the ship and

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stuff, right, and that Genova
fight on the ship and that ship is

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going to Coastal sal Yeah, so
like yeah, and like that that is

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even that is that's probably that would
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of whatever what's happening, because also
the god and I would think that it

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would actually they're probably just like withholding
more stuff because there's no way they could

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even end there. There's so much
after that game or like after that part

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in the game. Yeah, it's
a massive game. So that was the

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thing that capped off the SGF presentation
was the gameplay reveal for or a non

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gameplay reveal because we have we have
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was like an extended gameplay trailer for
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yeah, it's if you played Remake, you understand the links at which they

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are changing that original story, and
so for Rebirth, it's another fucking chapter

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where they're just going to do even
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and it feels like seven can be
whatever it wants to be now it's not

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beholden to it what it was on
the original release. So I think the

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wildest thing to me was the very
last scene of the trailer where so like

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Tifa is running up the stairs to
seffer Off and stuff like that. So,

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I mean, because that's all that
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when they tell that story, but
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How is she still alive? Timeline? So it's like, and it's a

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weird question because that's one of those
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like people is like stabbed like just
through her body, Like how is she

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still alive in the present, and
so like, I don't know if we're

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going to have this reality where like
maybe Tifa died in that moment and there's

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like an I don't know, there's
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I'm beginning as well where we showed
like Midguard destroyed and it shows like Tifa's

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body carted away, and it's like, are we getting into some like multiple

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timeline that's like Whispers and ship and
yeah, and Zach showing up in seven

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remakes? Also, I mean there's
very heavily implied that, like Eric clearly

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kind of seemed to know, yeah, what was like certain events in like

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seven remake. So the implication being
like she is someone who is like looping

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time or is like seen as happening
before kind of you know, it seems

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like based off of the first and
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people who haven't played like remake yet, but like sorry, but it seems

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like both Seffroth and Erith have like
a record or like are aware of there

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being multiple universes, yes, based
off what they say, So there could

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be something with like the Ancients that
they're related to. Yeah, and maybe

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that gives them the ability to see
this stuff. But yeah, I mean

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to me, the most interesting part
for sure was just like that final line

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with Sefroth being like Tifa should be
dead. I killed her, Like what

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who is this new person? And
I was like, I am I am

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all for like that kind of nonsense
as long as like it's told in a

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way that is like easy enough to
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where I get because like a Kingdom
heart situation on your hands, I don't

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know, I don't quite want that
is someone who played a lot of Kingdom

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Hearts. Boy, did I not
know what was happening at all? Yeah?

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Three, that's not that's not like
slander. Again, well maybe it

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is slander, it's Kingdom hards,
but I think the tone of remake veered

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a little close to king especially towards
the end with whispers and shit. I'm

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like, oh, we're getting to
some kh level. Like I said,

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I'm into it. Yeah, you
just need to kind of like if they

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if they can channel that energy in
the right direction. Yes, that's shit.

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I mean I'm here for I love
I love that stuff, and I'm

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all for like if they want to
bring up references to the other like Extended

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seven stuff like Advent Children and you
know dir Cerberus, which I know they

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kind of did with the US a
little bit like yeah, and like when

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wildly deep into Dirgy Cerberus stuff.
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guess the like remake does too with
the underground stuff. Yeah, I'm cool

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with that as long as like they
still contextualize in a way that for like

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the average person. Sure for me
the dummy like Jake, and then I'm

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like, okay, cool, at
least I like can follow along with this,

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you know. So shit, Yeah, it is like interesting having those

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because I know a lot of people
who like their first time touching Final Fantasy

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seven was with remake. That was
me. That was like, have you

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played the original at all? I
went back and played it. After I

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played as much of the original as
like, I made it to the where

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I finished, I played like,
yeah, five five hours, five hours,

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and I was like, cool,
I guess I'm revisiting. Yes,

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in four years, I played the
whole thing, and it was like it

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was interesting thing going back and like
looking at remake because like a lot of

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this stuff, especially at the ending, like I was like like went over

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my head. Yeah, I was
just like okay, cool, Like everyone's

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like losing their mind about you know, these reveals, and I was just

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like us first, well, I
had so many conversations with like friends and

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I was like, so like what
did you get out of that? Like

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how did you like does everything and
like they would ask me to explain.

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There was one of my friends was
like, who the hell was that cat

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when everything was blowing up? Because
because Kate said, is just like chilling,

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I don't have no fucking idea.
Yeah, I'm like, oh the

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song of the Hedgehog characters showed up, Like yeah, there was like also

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there also having now played seven fuck
Kates if sucks, I don't remember about

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he yeah problematic? Well no,
no, no, like more just like

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just like like the trail, the
trail. Yeah. Yeah, he's not

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the best. Although it's interesting that
in remake they like actually like contextualize his

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character more than they did in the
original, which like it is setting him

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up to be a more interesting character
already he is in the remake, which

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is the thing I like the most
about remake is that I feel like they

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took like the the like templates of
the characters and like really just like drew

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them out, and like I was
like man, like I like I enjoyed

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playing seven when I like did go
back and play it, but yeah,

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I was like the characters I really
fell in love with where the remake versions

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like I want them to keep doing
that, and so like Final Fantasy seven

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is one of the first games I
ever remember playing, like I was four

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years old, and like my mom, like my family bought it right after

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it came out, and my mom
would like put choke about racing on automatic,

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and I would like sit there and
pretend that I was doing stuff like

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that, and like I watched her
play it, I watched my dad play

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it. I tried playing it.
It went over my head, but I

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just thought the whole thing was cool
anyway, and like, so I don't

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know it's it just like it means
so much to me, and it is

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what was I even gonna say,
though I was gonna say something related to

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that. Oh my gosh, I
do Oh my god. Somebody actually said

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where was Vincent? I also agree
where was Vincent? I wanted to want

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that refuel to happen as I play. I don't want. Yeah, that's

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that's valid. It was cool that
you know, we're going to get to

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actually play as a like Red thirteen
and yeah. So I was like,

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all right, good, Like they're
expanding the cast. I'm so mad because

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I had something to say that was
irrelevant to that, but I just got

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wrapped up and let us know.
You did also say like there's gonna be

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so many ridiculous moments in there too, and I like, oh my god,

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I hope they keep them all in. What's the moment with uh?

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Is there like a scene where like
a guy gets hit by like a truck

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or something in the middle of Oh
is it during the parade? Oh?

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Yeah, gets hit by the truck
whenever they're stealing the tiny bronco. That

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scene is so funny in the original
game, but it only like the way

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they did it like makes perfect sense
in the context of it being like you

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know, turn based games. So
like, I'm very curious how you translate

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that joke into like real time,
like I hope they do. I hope

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they find a way to make that
work short because it's so slapstick and over

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the top. So it's like,
but no, I remember what I was

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gonna say. But just as a
kid, like you're so like, obviously

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that game is technologically limited, narratively
limited because it came out in ninety seven.

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kid with an imagination, I was

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taking these characters, you feel like
stealing them in Like that's where I mean.

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If I go back and play now, I'm just like, oh,

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man, like Tifa doesn't have as
much personality as like the personality I created

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for the localization is like not up
to yeah, like today's standards. But

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I mean like, as a kid, I saw Tifa and I was just

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like, this is the best person
I've ever seen in my entire life.

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She's so cool. I want to
be her and also marry her. But

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yeah, so I mean, like
that's the coolest thing for me going back

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and playing like Remake and then in
the future Rebirth is it's like it adds

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all those context of these characters that
I gave context to in my mind.

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It's like yeah, it's like it's
like it's giving back what you like,

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what you originally took exactly. Yeah, validating You're like, yeah, that

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was one of the things going into
the first remake of in twenty twenty,

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I thought about, like I have, and we've seen them in multiple other

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Final Fantasy seven things, but I
like, you develop your own version of

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those characters, because like nothing is
spoken. I'm like, well, damn,

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they're gonna have new voice actors,
you know, like maybe they're not

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gonna line up. But I feel
like remake just it was. It was

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what I thought of, was what
I wanted it to be. But yeah,

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rebirth, Like, I think the
one thing I want to mention is

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because after Macgon, that's when seven
opens up into the overworld map and I

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was like, Okay, well,
how are they going to do that?

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Because part of that part of that
is exploring the rest of that world,

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and we have to see on the
trail in the trailer rdan Chokebos, the

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whole party. It's beautiful, it's
vast. So I love the recreation of

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the open world aspect of seven and
seeing June on then the scale of that

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place is was massive, Like even
in the PlayStation version, you get the

406
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:30.039
sense that this is a massive place. Has like the CGI and FMV cut

407
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.279
into to show you the whole place. I'm like, yo, this place

408
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.359
is massive. There's things happening.
This is a real living city. So

409
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:40.160
to see that the how that's been
recreated in terms of scale, and it's

410
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:45.359
very visually striking. And I can't
wait to participate in the parade. Oh

411
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.240
my god. Yeah, dress up
as one of the soldiers and march with

412
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.200
them. I hope they have the
marching mini games too. I don't know

413
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:52.279
how they're gonna do it, but
they're like, oh, we need like

414
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.960
the finale, like the finishing move
and Cloud does his little ice spinning and

415
00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.880
oh my god, it's so so
good. That shows so goofy. It's

416
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.599
so fun, so goofy like,
and I have hope that they'll keep it

417
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.920
because they totally embrace that stuff with
Wall Street and like, oh yeah,

418
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.519
remake like they kept it goofy as
hell, and I'm like, okay,

419
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.599
cool. So like we will see
the dolphin, we will see the parade.

420
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:18.680
We will see like Cloud dressed as
a sailor, or like Cloud chilling

421
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.960
in the hot tub with like the
two buff guys. Yeah yeah, hell

422
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.920
yeah, that's so excited. Final
Fantasy baby yea. Oh man, but

423
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.680
yeah, is there anything else from
SGF you want to know? Jake?

424
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:36.160
Sorry, we we had we Bower
just now, So I mean I'm excited

425
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:38.880
to seven yeah, rebirth as well. I think I'm actually going to replay

426
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:45.039
remake ahead of it. Yea.
I will say, after seeing that trailer

427
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:49.000
and seeing a lot of the marketing
for sixteen, I definitely feel like that

428
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.680
edgy or darker what I've seen of
sixteen is definitely more of my speed.

429
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.480
Okay, because like I remember when
seven came out and I the remake and

430
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.559
I really enjoyed it. But like
I remember talking to John Luke and like

431
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:04.160
my opinion on that game would change
all the time, like something They'd be

432
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:06.960
like, yeah, I really like
this game, and some days I'd be

433
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:08.759
like, oh I didn't like that
they did this or this kind of bugged

434
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:15.480
me. So I don't know,
I'm so excited I'm going to replay remake

435
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.559
again because I mean I did that
Combat's really good. I like those characters

436
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:23.680
as well, And yeah, there's
a lot of promise for this and I'm

437
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.759
excited that people are getting it too. We did talk about though, that's

438
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.759
kind of weird that we saw that
like weeks before sixteen. I don't oh,

439
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.279
yeah, Like I think that made
it surprising but maybe not in like

440
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.680
like a surprising way. I guess
I don't know, Like it's just like,

441
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.440
oh, I guess they're doing I
guess they're showing it. Yeah,

442
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.240
I guess it's like it's supposed to
come out soon ish, so it makes

443
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.960
sense. But also give a release
date early. It's a window early.

444
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:55.279
Okay, I'm fucking Persona three remake
and f seven rebirths. Oh, there

445
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.200
was like two other games that are
back to back too, Like there was

446
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:02.599
one that Oh, Spider Man too
is like a couple of days after Alan.

447
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.240
Wait, I think they're both in
October, and I think like Assassin's

448
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:11.799
Creed around that time or something.
Yeah, there's been a fucking crazy year

449
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.079
for videos. Yeah, that's what
I was excited to come Summer Games Fest

450
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.960
obviously hang out with everyone, you
know, like I love the energy.

451
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.200
But I was like, man,
that means I won't be able to play

452
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.440
Diablo for a while, I won't
be able to play Street Fight. Well,

453
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.119
John Luke found ways to still play, Like, I mean, I

454
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.039
brought my switch to play Zelda,
but I'm still like, I'm not going

455
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.960
to play Zelda while I'm here,
Like I've been playing Zelda while I'm home

456
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.319
where it's just all weekend, I
just play Zelda. So like it's weird

457
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.119
because usually around this time of the
year, it's like no releases. I'm

458
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.079
just catching up playing games that I
maybe missed, their games that I've been

459
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:51.480
wanting to play for a while.
They're replaying old stuff. But now it's

460
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.640
just like this has been a crazy
year, yeah already. I mean oh

461
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.519
no, I mean like last year, I remember we got pretty close to

462
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.440
like Game of a Year time and
I was like, oh, man,

463
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.559
like there's a whole bunch of these
little games that like I really should get

464
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.680
through. But luckily there's nothing that
like stands out to me right now.

465
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:07.400
So I'm gonna play through a bunch
of them. So I play through like

466
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.319
Pentiment and God, I don't even
know, just a bunch of like like

467
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.200
smaller games, like I'd probably like
six or seven games throughout like November and

468
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.880
decem like leading up to that.
And now I'm like I need to do

469
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:25.279
this now because because it's just like
it's been non stop like bang or after

470
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:30.799
bang or what's that like Lady Guga
clip where it's like like hotel no sleep,

471
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.319
like like wake up, do it? Again, Like that's basically how

472
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:38.000
this year is felt, is like
just constant stream of games and they're all

473
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.240
good and I want to play them
all yeah. Yeah, And so yeah,

474
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.359
I think we have a better idea
of what the second half of the

475
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.000
year looks like now, Yeah,
because I think that was a big question

476
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.359
before, before this, before SGFA, a couple of weeks ago, We're

477
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.759
like, what's coming. Like the
first half has been incredible, honestly,

478
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:57.240
Uh, Steve Watts wrote up a
thing on the site and should check that

479
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.240
out about how this is like probably
like the best first half of a year

480
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.880
for games that we've ever had,
and I was like, ah, this

481
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.920
usually it's October November when we get
the fuck Bangers, you know what I'm

482
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:09.960
saying. But now it's like,
wow, we actually got everything we needed

483
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:14.759
sort of, but it's like still
excited about everything coming out in October November.

484
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:17.160
So it also just makes me think
of like last year we went to

485
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.960
Game of the Year and like we
all pretty much had like a solid idea

486
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.799
of like what our top was,
and we had like this big consensus like

487
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.160
everybody played and loved elden Ring basically, so like we went into that and

488
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.119
it was pretty easy to have these
conversations. Now I'm like, I don't

489
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:36.759
know, Like he's gonna be It's
gonna be an interesting year. There's so

490
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.119
many like so many of us love
like Diablo and Street Fighter and Zelda and

491
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.039
like Metroid Prime Remastered came out this
year and like that was amazing. So

492
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.960
I don't Chronicles three Future Redeems.
Yeah, I can't forget about that.

493
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.799
Yeah, there's just been so many
good games, like in Golem, Like,

494
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.480
yeah, Lucy James is here at
SGF, but she is not on

495
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.759
this podcast. Unfortunately. I think
you still need to, you know,

496
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:07.240
get requests, request her, like
hit her up at mentioned her Dollom spoiler

497
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:12.200
cast. It could still happen with
the power of the players. With your

498
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.720
help, we can have a Gollumb
spoiler cast. So yeah, we didn't

499
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:16.880
We didn't tell you how to do
that. Just do it. Yeah,

500
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.160
Yeah, it's good. It's good. That's gonna be Gollum is gonna be

501
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.640
Dope's home. See where it lands
on our list? What was I?

502
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:29.400
What was I? What was I
gonna say? Shit? Anything else?

503
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.559
In SGF? Maybe I don't know
shit moral combat we have moral combat?

504
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.839
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
really like m K eleven. Oh I

505
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.079
do doo. Yeah, yeah,
I think story wise, I think m

506
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:45.759
K eleven is fucking dope. Yeah, so them doing like a prequel kind

507
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.079
of like Timeline, they could do
whatever they want with. Yeah, they

508
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.440
could do whatever they want with Moral
Kombat. So I like the tone that

509
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.519
they're striking with this one, where
it's just not like evil or it's not

510
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.519
like it's not like dark and ripping. Well there's still ripping spines out and

511
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.440
crack goals and shit, but like
a lot of the stages look colorful.

512
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:06.200
They're being very playful. I'm really
glad they're they're keeping up the poppy colors

513
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.360
of eleven. I really did not
like the way X looked. X was

514
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:13.920
like real, like moody, like
lord like trying to be all like and

515
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.920
I was like, it's fine,
and then like eleven was just like saturated

516
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:21.079
colors, and this they're like even
more saturated. Yeah. Yeah, it

517
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.880
looks good, really good. Honestly, like it looks it looks very nice.

518
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.920
What do y'all think of the cameo
system. I mean, I've played

519
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.519
a lot of Tag Fighters, but
yeah, it's kind of seems kind of

520
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.199
interesting. It seems like a thing
like how can we add, well,

521
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.840
can we add to this combat system
that we haven't done yet, And it's

522
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.559
like fucking cameos, right, Yeah, especially because like eleven felt like so

523
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.800
tight, Yeah, and that I
was like, oh man, like I

524
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:46.199
don't really know where you where do
you go for there? You go from

525
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:50.039
there as far as like the fundamental
immortal combat. So it's so it's a

526
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.119
solid way to like add something new
to it. Yeah, Yeah, it's

527
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.880
interesting. Yeah, it seems like
you can you can call in cameo fighters

528
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.440
as like as an assist during there, and if the way you it up

529
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.840
is you can extend combos integrate some
of the moves. Yeah, so I

530
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:07.079
think I think that can add a
lot of depth and like oh, I

531
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.039
meane this character, but if I
choose whoever for cambos, I can do

532
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:14.599
this specific combo string or I can
like do some wild shit. So Tam

533
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:19.639
kind of talked about it on the
Post show that like it sort of like

534
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.320
it just extends to creativity, especially
for like think of like the E Sports

535
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.079
scene where like eleven was like it
was like almost too tight, or it's

536
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.679
like that game got it felt very
calculating, it got dialed in real quick,

537
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.639
and then it's like all right,
like everyone just knows how to play

538
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.440
this game, and this is what
you do and this is how you win.

539
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.320
Like this just kind of opens up
the floor to like a lot more

540
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.079
creativity and like it's like the whole
idea of like duel typing and Pokemon.

541
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.840
Right, Like you open that door
and it says, oh, this changes

542
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.079
every exactly. Whoa, Yeah,
Jake knows all about that. We're talking

543
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:52.599
Pokemon. I was a team building
this morning. I have still I'm still

544
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.199
playing. Holy shit, you know, Jake is a sicko when it comes

545
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.960
to down. How did you feel
about the Pokemon with Guns? I didn't.

546
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.199
I didn't watch that trailer. I
thought that game already came out,

547
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:06.400
because I feel like people have been
talking about that forever. Yesterday on Instagram.

548
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:10.719
I'm like, what if this looks
looks yeah, yeah, I have

549
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.920
very little interest. Yeah sure,
yeah dude, it's it's like let's play

550
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.920
bait, like that's the whole thing
just looks like yeah, it seems like

551
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.360
someone from like two thousand and nine
came up with that idea, you know,

552
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.760
like it just feels all old and
dated and it's very like edgy kind

553
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.639
of I don't know, has like
that edgy humor vibe to it. Yeah,

554
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.440
like cute things with guns and violence, and like they're gonna cuss and

555
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.639
stuff, and it's like, all
right, the Pokemon cuss or the po

556
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.800
they're not Pokemon. I don't know
if I'm just saying I'm just saying shit,

557
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:45.719
the legally distinct evy, Oh my
god. So yeah, that's's a

558
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:52.360
bunch of other stuff from summer game
fests, Oh Yakuza, like sorry,

559
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.840
like a dragon dragon, like a
dragon guide in the man name the Man

560
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.719
who Races, the Man Who Races, Man who Sold the World. Yeah,

561
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:01.960
there you go. That's that's the
one cool gameplay ship that they're showing.

562
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:06.440
It's it's back to action brawler for
Cure You because this is like his

563
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:10.039
between story from six to like a
dragon that came out. Like they've kind

564
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.000
of integrated some of the feel or
flavor of Judgment's combat, which I think

565
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.599
Judgment's combat is sick, but that's
cool. Yeah, you guys, A

566
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.719
fucking Cure You has like some kind
of Spider Man type shit where he can

567
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.760
like grapple items from the world,
pull it towards him. Yeah, yeah,

568
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.360
and start swinging that shit around like
what the fuck it came with the

569
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.840
new hair. It's yeah, honestly, every game would be better if you

570
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.440
had a grappling hook. So yeah, what if you use that shit for

571
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:43.480
just swinging around the city. I
need to get you want to get to

572
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:47.960
the top of Millennium Tower. Motherfucker. That should be sick. No,

573
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.360
but I'm super excited about that.
That's coming out in November also, so

574
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.079
I'm talking about talking about lining up
some bangers right there. That's like one

575
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.039
thing I noticed with the showcase too. I don't think that there were any

576
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.599
games that had like this like super
far out release window. Everything was basically

577
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.440
within the year, within a year. Yeah, the actual event happening,

578
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.639
which is Prince of Persia looked pretty
good. That was that was the first

579
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:15.400
game that showed us. Yeah,
it was crazy. I that that Prince

580
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.400
of Persia remake that kind of vanished
off the face theater that they said,

581
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.360
and they've changed developers rebooted it basically. Well I think that's still in development,

582
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.360
but but I think they know that
that got rebooted, like yeah,

583
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:31.119
like I think it got passed from
it was gould be soft. I think

584
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:35.679
originally anyway, it was one of
the branches. Yeah, and then it

585
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:37.199
is now it's back in Ubisoft Montreal's
hand, and they were like, we're

586
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:42.920
in early development stages, and I
was like, early development stages, y'all

587
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.519
posted a trailer with like a release
date. Must have been like a scrap

588
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:52.199
sort of I think completely started over. But the one that was real today

589
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.880
that kicked off the whole all of
HGF was what what's it called? It's

590
00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:01.039
a side scrolling something of something,
thank you something something I don't know.

591
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:06.920
Crown Crown, Yes, Crown Prince
of Persia, Crown of Dawn. Was

592
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.800
it that or and I don't know
if that's is it really? I don't

593
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:13.480
know. There's so much shit happening. They're going back to that, like

594
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:17.599
Jordan Meckner two D kind Yeah,
that's really cool because esthetic which the Lost

595
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:20.960
Crown, the Lost Crown. There
it is. I don't know where I

596
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.280
was thinking, Dawn. I don't
know that's that sounded right, but yeah,

597
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:29.159
it's it's it's really it looks incredible, like having a three D like

598
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.239
two D side scrolling combat some of
the some of the stuff that they were

599
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:35.239
showing with the combat in that game, and the traversal looks like, looks

600
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.840
pretty sick if it feels like,
hey, we're gonna make you something that's

601
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.199
two D but give it a lot
of depth and flavor. It looks like

602
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.199
visual style looks impressive. It's cool
seeing that kind of stuff from You'd be

603
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:47.760
soft too, especially like after that
period where they were just kind of releasing

604
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.679
those open world games with towers,
Like, oh, I know we've talked

605
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.239
about so much at this point,
but like seeing that kind of got me

606
00:39:54.400 --> 00:40:00.679
excited for like, h yes,
you could be working on but yeah,

607
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:06.280
I've seems pretty solid excited for that. God, there was an oh,

608
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:15.000
Sonic, I'm kind of Sonic World
Stars super Stars Sonic Superstarstars. Yeah,

609
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.800
that's right. We see these trailers
and we're like, that's sick. I

610
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.920
made the nails too, so I
like pull the logos out of all of

611
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.039
this, so I read it.
I just did go, oh, yeah,

612
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:28.519
I know, I did like our
recap piece of like the biggest games,

613
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:30.920
and I'm just like, God,
what did I write an hour ago?

614
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:34.280
I don't know. That's like,
when when would you would you pay

615
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.760
attention like to every single little thing
that's like one in one year and out

616
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.239
the others. It's like fun,
I forgot you totally what we saw.

617
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:43.639
But uh but yeah, that was
the first of many things that will we'll

618
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.360
be covering here at Game Spot for
Sgfah. We're gonna start getting hands on

619
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:49.880
with games in the next couple of
days. Yeah, so if you want

620
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.320
to know more about a lot of
the games that were shown, I think

621
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.320
we're going to have you know,
previews, coverage, We're gonna be doing

622
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.519
videos and shit. So if you
want to learn more, you know where

623
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.400
you know, were a goal.
I was gonna say, the fucking stick

624
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.159
it here, It's stick it in
game spot it. Oh my god,

625
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.920
if you out there, that's my
guy. Oh I do want to quickly

626
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:15.079
shout out the Devolver direct. The
only thing I cared about from that is

627
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:16.920
me and Kurt, the two people
on the planet. They're doing a remaster

628
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:22.719
shouts and the damn yeah chilling.
Yeah. I was like fin was like

629
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:27.880
watching the TV and then like,
uh Garcia Hotspur like just shows up like

630
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:30.760
in like real life and he's like
shooting like these dudes in like an office,

631
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.400
and I was like what. I
was just like my brain like couldn't

632
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.239
understand what I'm like, I'm like, is that Garcia Hotspur from shouts and

633
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:42.199
damn? And then like Kurt like
saw it and then he looked at me

634
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.599
like what they had a fever dream? What was going on? Which I'm

635
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.800
like a sequel. I went I
checked Slack to make sure ben Jenka knew.

636
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.199
Okay, oh he was on it. I think he knew before we

637
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.400
did. Yeah, we're we're the
three three three sicks three ordering our copies

638
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.000
now. Now that's cool. I
like that game and also like that game

639
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:06.039
is not possible to really get anymore. Yeah, it's one of those that

640
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.159
I've been lost the time. So
yeah, like it's not backwards, not

641
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.719
ball or anything like that. So
it's like, all right, cool,

642
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:15.480
like I'm glad you know, uh
they're bringing it back. Grasshopper Joint,

643
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.920
Yeah, Grasshopper Joint. It's it's
a weird one because like I know,

644
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.440
like Suda actually doesn't really like that
game because like it was one of it

645
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.360
was one of those it wasn't it
that ya wanted an action game? And

646
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.920
then yeah, like it's like fuck
it, I'll guess I'll do it,

647
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.800
like to be fair, like I've
you know, read like his original like

648
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:37.079
pitch idea of what that game was, and like it sounds really cool.

649
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.840
It's super not the day. It's
very pretty much a completely different game.

650
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:44.559
So like I I definitely like feel
for him about that, But at the

651
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.119
same time, i'd like shot was
the damn for what it is. So

652
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:52.239
like I'm I'm glad. Yeah,
that's that's that's wild all right. I

653
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.719
mean video games that we've been playing. I guess we can start talking about

654
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:59.599
you. We can talk about,
Yeah, what's what's your grass? We

655
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:05.039
get to the Outlast Trials Oh,
which came out like a few weeks ago.

656
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:06.800
I feel like I kind of th
under the race. Yeah, because

657
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:10.880
Zelda, it like came out after
Zelda, y'all think about again after like

658
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.599
then it was Diopplo and like all
these other big games. So but it

659
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.719
is early access, so I don't
think they were like hitting them marketing campaigns

660
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.880
all that hard on this. It'll
hopefully get like a second win. Yeah

661
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:30.800
maybe as Trials early access. It
is an early access co op horror game

662
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:35.039
that's structured very similarly. Maybe not
structured, but it plays very similarly to

663
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.599
other Outlast games, and that you're
being hunted and you hide and you don't

664
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:44.159
really have any offensive capabilities, so
it's a lot of stealth, but you've

665
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.679
got three other people with you ideally, and then there's puzzles to solve,

666
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.920
and a lot of the puzzles are
very solike, like you have to get

667
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.119
keys, and to get these keys
you have to like pull them out of

668
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:57.400
neck holes and stomachs and like that's
what it is, though, you know,

669
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:02.400
uh, and and like you're always
trying to do something really like gory

670
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:07.039
and disgusting, and like I don't
want to spoil it because there's some shocking

671
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:12.480
moments that I think playing by yourself
might be a little too much, but

672
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:14.679
because you're in a group, it's
like, oh, it's funny, we're

673
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.760
sawing this dude's legs off now.
And like also I think that I think

674
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:24.599
that game has like a sense of
like sulf aware humor about it that makes

675
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:29.639
it like it doesn't it doesn't feel
like you're just playing this like weird edgy,

676
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.199
dark edgy thing like it's it's it
feels a bit campy. It feels

677
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:37.039
more campy. It's a little campy, and like it's multiplayer like co op,

678
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:42.039
and in between missions. You're in
this I don't know, I guess

679
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.480
like prison sort of. Yeah,
you're in this like facility basically like in

680
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.840
the nineteen fifties, the government dragged
a bunch of homeless people and said like,

681
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:52.159
hey, we're gonna like put these
like lab rat experiments and they call

682
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:59.320
it therapy, and so you're like
like level up your therapy points, which

683
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:01.639
is really fun. When you join, even if you're with friends, you

684
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:06.239
can see other players running around and
their dumb little outfits that they get and

685
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:08.840
customize your cell. You can customize
your cell. You can put posters up

686
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:15.280
in it. Yeah, wrestle.
It sounds like the type of game that

687
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:17.760
is going to be like big on
Twitch, Like that's going to be like

688
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:23.559
there's a lot of nudity, so
I don't know, a lot of yeah,

689
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:31.280
well so yeah, it has a
lot of dog dong. Yeah yeah.

690
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:37.199
Yeah. It's it's quite good though, because I think, like I

691
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.639
imagine this took a lot of fine
tuning because I could very easily see how

692
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:45.199
outlasts could suck and co opera.
But it works pretty well. Uh.

693
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:50.320
It's a lot of fun running from
these things with friends because like you can

694
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.360
very much like something's chasing us.
Split up, it's going to follow one

695
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.639
of you, one of you safe, so the safe one can go back

696
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:59.880
hit those objectives while you're trying to
I don't know, like open door,

697
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:01.559
slam the door behind you. Some
doors have locks that you can turn around

698
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:06.000
and interact within your character, like
slowly locks it. So it's like tense

699
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:08.079
and they can just kick the door
open if you're not quick enough, and

700
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:12.280
they'll grab you and throw you and
stuff. It's like it sounds like there's

701
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.400
like a level of unpredictability with YEA
in each level is yeah, we're talking

702
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.920
about how you can replay the same
level, but it'll take you in different

703
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:22.239
parts of it, like kind of. So there's the main trial. I

704
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:27.119
think there's like four main trials that
are like the longer story ones, but

705
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.920
then there's side ones that will unlock
different areas of that trial and give you

706
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:36.039
different objectives with different things chasing after
you, hunting you, whatever. But

707
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:38.880
I'm really impressed, really excited to
see what they do with it. I

708
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:43.840
think it strikes a pretty good balance
so far of being like like it definitely

709
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:49.239
borrows a lot from like live service
games and that like you're meant to replay

710
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.800
these levels. You're you're grinding out
like different equipment and different perks and stuff,

711
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.159
but it doesn't feel like you're just
meant to sit down and replay these

712
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:00.360
levels a bunch. Yeah, but
yeah, I'm having a good time.

713
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.559
It's a lot of fun figuring out
like how to get through these levels as

714
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.039
best you can, and it grades
you at the end. And normally I

715
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.400
don't care about that stuff all that
much, but it is fun when like

716
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.960
you're with four people and you finish
and you're comparing grades and like, looking

717
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.599
over, I got an A plus
and like it's like I got a D

718
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:22.440
because I just got like stabbed twenty
two, I got drugs plus a neck

719
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.559
hole digging. Not to ran too
much about it, but one of the

720
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.519
cool things that that that that I
find pretty entertaining is that there is one

721
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:35.960
enemy who will run around and basically
just poison you. And if you get

722
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:39.639
poisoned, you start seeing things that
other people don't see, and it comes

723
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:45.840
in the form of like this other
creature. And it's cool because one person

724
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:50.480
could be tripping balls next to you
and you're trying to find and you're trying

725
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.760
to find antidote form. So so
if I find antidote, it's John Luke,

726
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.239
I have it. I have it. I'll run over to him and

727
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.920
like this awkward like hold it out
and he gets to take it from me,

728
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.400
and all my characters just like shaking
their head like freaking out, like

729
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:07.000
it's so weird looking. Yeah,
like long for a Gotham Knights where Scarecrow

730
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:13.119
like is just doing stuff like that. Kind of Yeah, yeah, I

731
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.079
I really dig it. It's like
it's just I think like they've they've tapped

732
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:22.760
into like that that co op kind
of like survival aspect that I feel like

733
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:25.599
I've never quite seen a game managed
to pull off. Or it's like really

734
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:31.440
difficult, right, like so I
you know, would like to see more

735
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:35.079
of it and kind of yeah,
like uh, I don't know, just

736
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:39.360
like it's it's terrifying, but it's
also just like really goofy and and silly

737
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:44.519
and like has those like immersive or
like emergent moments where you're just like fucking

738
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:47.039
around and having a good time kind
of like like fastmophobia. I feel like

739
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.239
that's a lot of that too.
Yeah, it's scary, but also it's

740
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:53.679
like you're with friends and it's like
kind of goofy and silly, like you

741
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:58.920
know in like fastm phobia, like
like you'll get killed by a ghost and

742
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:00.000
you'd be like, oh my god, that horrifying, and then like the

743
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:05.320
attension will immediately get broken because someone's
like bodies like ragged alls yea or something

744
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.400
like this has moments like that where
like I'll be like not quite as janky,

745
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:12.760
not quite as JANKI plish pretty polish. It looks very good, but

746
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:15.360
moments like I'll be like running from
a dude and like he'll be like chasing

747
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.800
me, and I'll like turn around
the corner and you can hide in trash

748
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.440
cans and like I would, I
saw like Jake like like a little gopher

749
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.920
ahead just like pop out of trash
see me and then immediately just be like

750
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:31.400
nope, or like it's so funny, or like just like like run into

751
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:35.760
a locker, like a double locker, and like I remember like running in

752
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:37.599
one, like and I just like
turned and like Matt Patchett was just like

753
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:44.639
hiding there the whole time. I
was like, ohay, Matt clod for

754
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:50.119
one time, I think I think
one time I ran into a locker and

755
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.920
then like then you were hiding in
and then the guy like found it because

756
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:54.800
of me, and you like opened
it up, and I was like,

757
00:49:54.880 --> 00:50:01.039
take Jake, like, don't Oh
my god. That's well, that's cute.

758
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:05.039
I think it's quite good. It's
one I'm definitely going to keep an

759
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:09.039
eye on. I'm excited to see
how they expand on it. But yeah,

760
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:15.159
I mean it is early access,
so it is not feature complete,

761
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:16.360
and you know that may turn people
off, but I will say, like

762
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:21.599
for an early access game, it
feels very polished. The production value seem

763
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:28.239
very high, Like it feels pretty
cinematic considering you are goofing around with friends.

764
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.199
Like a lot of times when you
enter a level, they'll introduce the

765
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:35.719
villain and they'll be a scene that'll
be super well lit and you'll see him

766
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:37.679
through glass kind of like BioShock style
and stuff, and they'll do something.

767
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:44.119
They'll like torture something or whatever.
They'll yell shit, and it's like it's

768
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:45.679
cool, it's creepy, it's chilling, and then it kind of lets you

769
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.920
loose in. Yeah, it's well. It sounds very much too, like

770
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:52.719
like it has its own identity,
which is really good too. Because he

771
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.760
started talking About'm like, oh,
is it like a dead by daylight thing?

772
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.679
And then the more you talk about
like, oh, it's like kind

773
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.559
of doing its own thing though,
so that's unable. Yeah, that's that's

774
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.719
good. Yeah, And I really
love the aesthetic of it because it's each

775
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.039
level is like based on a kind
of horror location, like oh, here's

776
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.480
like an orphanage. Here's like a
station. But because it's a like lab

777
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:15.320
experiment, it is like a fake
set of an orphanage that they like put

778
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:22.039
together that you can like see the
seams of you know, you're like,

779
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.119
oh, like this brick wall has
like a seamony because it's a fake wall.

780
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:29.199
Yeah, like stuff like that.
But also like they've clearly just been

781
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:34.119
like throwing like other experience other like
lab rates like at it. So there's

782
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.320
all these just bodies in blood everywhere, and like it's just like, well,

783
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:38.480
those people died, all right,
send the next people in and like,

784
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:44.599
yeah, you're the next person.
Then it's cool. Mark Delaney has

785
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:49.119
an interview on gayspa dot com with
the Outlash trial debts, and we talk

786
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.199
a little bit about the development process, plans that they have for the future,

787
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.840
things like that. So definitely check
that out. Mark is also a

788
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:58.960
big, big horror person. Also, he's written like twenty articles about Alan

789
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.800
Wake till he has literally almost I
was like, I don't know if it's

790
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:04.719
gonna be like sassy. I don't
meet it in a sassy way. I

791
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:07.320
mean it's a compliment, but I
almost wanted to like message and be like,

792
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:12.920
I think that you've written more books
than than Alan Wake, because yeah,

793
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.880
he's no like he's on that coverage
though, Like if you want some

794
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:22.840
Alan Wake like theories, interviews like
whatever, like Mark is your person is

795
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.719
on it. Yeah, so yeah, anything you've been playing chess that you

796
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.079
want to talk about the real quick. Diablo four is like, I mean

797
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.519
Zelda, so like that's kind of
been I was playing Zelda for a while

798
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:37.119
and then I started Diablo four,
and it's been hard because both of them

799
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:38.960
are so good. I like flip
back and forth and I'm like, oh

800
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:42.519
no, like I really want to
do more like digging around in the depths

801
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:46.000
and Zelda, but also like my
Rogue is getting pretty good, so I

802
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:50.360
kind of want to because I went
with Rogue and I'm really loving it so

803
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.840
far. I literally almost bought Diablo
on PCs. I could play on my

804
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:57.840
steam deck. Yeah, Tan Saity
set it up on the steam deck and

805
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.679
it runs really well. Ever,
like there's there's a there's a guy on

806
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:05.559
me dot com on how to do
that or how to run Diablo four on

807
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:07.880
your steam deck. All right,
well, you know, I'm definitely gonna

808
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:13.840
pep that. Yeah, that's what
I found Rogue to be my least favorite

809
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.400
class. Timson about using Rogue too, and I'm just like, what are

810
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.440
you doing, Sorcer? Okay,
okay, yeah, yeah, but yeah

811
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.840
four is it like still it's it's
out there. A lot of people are.

812
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:29.760
I feel like a lot of people
who never touched the Diablo before are

813
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:34.159
really into it. And I just
think, like it's a very satisfying grind

814
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.599
it. Yeah, it gets you
in and out real fast too, and

815
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:42.960
it's a great story also, surprisingly, So yeah, I haven't gotten too

816
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:46.119
far in story stuff because it's like
it's different and that it has like what

817
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:51.320
like three paths and you can kind
of like choose where you go. It

818
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:53.239
seems a little bit more I think, well, the acts you can take

819
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:55.599
them on in whatever order. Yes, Yeah, that's what it's. There's

820
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:59.480
like the three different acts and you
can kind of choose and so like I'm

821
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:01.199
doing what I'm up north. That
might be one. I think it's actually

822
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:05.840
two is what we're doing. But
yeah, it's it's really I mean the

823
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.599
way that I described it is.
Somebody was like, oh, how is

824
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:09.800
it? And I was like,
it's like a very good Diablo game.

825
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:14.920
And I like Diablo. So it's
great because it feels like that it is

826
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.360
very Diablo. Yeah, it feels
very familiar. Someone who played a lot

827
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.760
of two back in the day.
Sam, I'm like, oh wow,

828
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.559
yeah, this is the muscle memory
is right, you right back, right

829
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:27.519
back at it. So that's cool. Any else, anything from Zelda you

830
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.559
want to mention? God, I
don't know what can be said. I

831
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:35.800
feel like so much has been said
about this is your time now if you

832
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.400
want to say something, I mean, it's incredible, Like I I absolutely

833
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:42.920
love it. I finally I did
like all of the towers. I've only

834
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.000
put forty hours into it, so
I feel like I'm less I know only

835
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:50.079
only but like I looked at my
time, like the day that I don't

836
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.159
remember who posted it, but somebody
was like it might have for some reason.

837
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:55.840
I want to say it was like
Callie did Callie season. You can

838
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:00.119
check your time. Yeah. She
was like, today is the day you

839
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:01.360
can like check your time. And
I checked it and I was at like

840
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:06.519
thirty five hours or something, and
I was yeah, and then I yeah

841
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:08.719
or more, and then I was
looking at everybody else's and everybody was like,

842
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:10.840
oh, I hit seventy. I'm
like, I was like, holy

843
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.719
shit, how are y'all doing this? And then I was like, well,

844
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:17.840
I have a kid, ye say
no kid. Yeah, I rolled

845
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.119
credits in Zelda. Obviously I'm not
gonna say what happens, but I was

846
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:28.800
like, very very impressed, Like
for many reasons, the big one being

847
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.119
is I don't know how. I'm
surprised my switch didn't just melt in the

848
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.920
dock as I you were talking about
doing that. Yeah, that was really

849
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.519
impressive. The way they use music
in the last couple of hours is very

850
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:43.760
good. Like finish it, Like
I know, this is a game that's

851
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.960
very easy to like get lost,
get lost in, and like, oh,

852
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:49.400
I'm gonna keep putting off the ending
to the point where it's like I

853
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:51.599
guess I'm just not going to finish
it, or like some people are like

854
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:52.519
I don't want it to end,
and that's kind of how I was,

855
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.559
but I was like, I gotta
finish it before Summer game Fest because I

856
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:59.719
don't want to like, I don't
know, be trying. I don't know.

857
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:02.599
I was just like, I gotta
do it, and yeah, very

858
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:07.960
very impressive, ending that I am
excited to talk with people about, Oh,

859
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:13.440
well, you want to plan a
spoiler cast. Yeah, yeah,

860
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.920
that that will do well and Golem. We'll do it after Golem. Yeah,

861
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.119
I don't know it goes first,
but I'm not on the goal.

862
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:25.400
We can only have one spoiler cast
at a time, so yeah, Tears

863
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.880
of the Kingdom will be next year. We'll get to Persona three the year

864
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:30.159
after. It's fine, well,
we'll put a poll on Twitter on the

865
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:35.719
official game spot a coup. Yeah, you can decide whether we use have

866
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.760
a spoiler cast for Golem or Tears
of the Kingdom. The people choose closed

867
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:45.119
in a one hundred and fifty hours. Though I put in the Elden ring

868
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:47.239
that you don't know how much I
put in the Helden ring on card.

869
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.840
I put it off for a long
time though I definitely didn't need to wait

870
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:53.719
that long, and even got to
the point where I was doing like the

871
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:57.880
final stuff and it was a breeze. Like I heard a lot of people

872
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.400
are having trouble with that final area, and I was like, Okay,

873
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.719
well, I gotta make sure I'm
extra prepared beyond like just doing all the

874
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.239
shrines and doing all that the roots
and stuff like that. And I and

875
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:14.000
I just plowed through that last last
bit. But that being said, like

876
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:20.400
those final moments still hit really hard
and build up to them is it is

877
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:22.599
quite good? That sounds that sounds
lovely. But that sounds like what what

878
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:27.400
I would imagine as an ideal like
ending to a game. It sounds like

879
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:32.159
it's hitting the notes that I would
want. That's that's Oh man, how

880
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:35.440
about you? What have you been
playing? What have I've been playing?

881
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:37.800
Oh? On that note, I
cannot talk about what I've been playing,

882
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:42.719
so but I will say, pay
attention to GameSpot dot com in the coming

883
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.599
weeks for coverage. I will be
able to talk about like the game,

884
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:51.119
yes or maybe it's not. You
know, that's how these things go.

885
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.199
You know you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I can't talk about

886
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:59.800
what I've been playing. Uh quite
yet. There's something on spot, there's

887
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.679
something on a switch. I've been
playing it self, Wow. I brought

888
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:05.280
my switch and I was like,
wait, what am I gonna play?

889
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:07.199
Oh? Yeah, that's right.
I got fucking how many more? I

890
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.440
got one hundred more shrines to go
through, but yeah, one hundred and

891
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.119
fifty in this one? Is there
one hundred and fifty It's like Pokemon one

892
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.920
hundred fifty two shrines and then one
hundred and twenty light roots. Okay,

893
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.519
yeah, so I haven't. I
haven't exploded the depths very much. I

894
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:23.000
don't. I don't, like like
Jake, I think I'm gonna get to

895
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:25.199
a point where it's like I need
I want to, I need to finish

896
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.880
this at some point. I don't
feel the need to one hundred percent,

897
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:30.480
which I think is a good thing. Yeah. I mean the thing too

898
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.719
is I would say, don't force
yourself to finish it, like do it

899
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:38.599
when you're ready to, because I, at least for me personally, Like

900
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:43.320
with Breath of Wild I was like, when I beat this game, I'm

901
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.199
gonna go back and do all the
other shrines, and I just said,

902
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:46.440
you don't. So Tears of the
Kingdom, I made a point to like

903
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:51.159
do everything I wanted to do before
finishing the game because I was worried I

904
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.800
wouldn't see a lot of it.
But but I think with this in particular,

905
00:58:53.960 --> 00:59:00.599
like don't don't force yourself to do
everything first if you're you interest or

906
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.480
you start to get bored. I
was very into it, but like you'll

907
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:09.079
know the times right in and go
finish it wise words from Jacob Decking right

908
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:13.199
there, you know when the when
the time's right. It's kind of like

909
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:15.320
a weird balance that I've never thought
before with games like that, where it's

910
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:19.800
like because I mean I that was
how I was with Breath of the Wild,

911
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:22.280
where I like it took me forever
to actually beat the game, even

912
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:24.800
though I had it like unlocked,
like I'd done the Four Divine b stuff

913
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:27.599
like that, because I was like, well, if I do this,

914
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:29.760
like I don't know if I'm going
to come back to it and like do

915
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:32.639
those things. So it took me
forever. And then with Elden Ring it

916
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:37.239
was kind of the opposite where I
feel like I like did all of the

917
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.039
story and all the bosses, and
I felt like I did the Hallig Tree

918
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:44.320
and like Millennia and stuff because that
was all really cool. But then I

919
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:46.960
just beat the game and I didn't
really go back to do all the extra

920
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:51.000
stuff that normally I maybe would,
So I don't know. It's kind of

921
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.719
like a weird balance of like revisiting
a game versus doing it all and like

922
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:57.760
what works for you and what works
for that game. Yeah. The thing

923
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.280
about Zeldo is like all that side
stuff isn't just it's not just filler content.

924
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:02.360
It's like all I need to do
is because it's a checklist, there's

925
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.599
generally fascinating stuff. I haven't even
like been I haven't even done anything in

926
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:12.039
Terrytown. I'm just I'm starting to
do the newspaper quests, okay, Farrito.

927
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:16.119
Yeah, you're telling me you've done
what three shrines now or not trines?

928
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:22.519
Michael? How fifty hours? You
got three? You can fast travel?

929
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:25.360
Oh no, you did three?
He did three? Three of the

930
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:30.159
Dungeons the World event or Yeah,
and you haven't upgraded any of here.

931
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:36.840
I haven't upgraded in my arm yeah, which is which is not surprising considering

932
01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:40.480
how you unlock that stuff, But
it also is surprising because that's kind of

933
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:44.119
important. You were asking me,
You're like, so do I ever get

934
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:46.400
like better armor? And I was
like, that's not you. It's like

935
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:50.880
in the depths or something, and
I was like what, like yeah,

936
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:53.880
and he's like where every armor,
said, I find it's all three three,

937
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:58.519
your two whatever, And I was
like, oh, okay, that's

938
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:02.639
that's that's what you would have googled
how to get better armor gamespat dot com.

939
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:05.960
Yeah, and I found one of
the many guys that we have on

940
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:07.519
the site. But yeah, so
I'm starting to starting to do that stuff

941
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:12.079
because like I have, I have
Hella hearts. I made it a point

942
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.320
like, oh this game is kind
of brutal, so I'm gonna like get

943
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:16.639
Hella hearts so I don't die and
I don't get one shotted, I'm get

944
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:20.480
like two shotted, and I already
I have my second line of hearts.

945
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:22.559
Like why are these bosses doing so
much damage to me? Like I have

946
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:30.840
the best armors nine defense exactly,
like I think I finished with like sixty

947
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:37.000
or something defense to put that in
them out of you're fucking raw dogging it

948
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:42.159
with. Yeah, whack ass armor
and ship just go and shirtless and listen

949
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:44.800
it. I don't got no skill
issues, that's for damn sure. Yeah,

950
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:49.719
but yeah, both sell this boilercasts. That's just good. I don't

951
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:53.199
have some I'm putting it into On
Monday, somebody asked us if there are

952
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:58.079
any games that we're going to be
trying in the next few days that we

953
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:00.280
can talk about, but I don't
know if that's them. I get a

954
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.039
little oh yeah, yeah, I
mean yeah, I don't think we can

955
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:06.239
unfortunately. Yeah, I will say, I mean, if you watch the

956
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.360
showcase, the Summer Game Fest showcase, that's you said it earlier. But

957
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:15.360
that's a pretty good yeah, indication
indication of what we might be seeing.

958
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.320
Not not everything on the showcase is
like playable or whatever, but and not

959
01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:22.320
everything in that showcase. We'll even
but but yeah, it's uh yeah,

960
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:25.480
yeah, Well, I mean you
don't know soon. Yeah, you'll know

961
01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:29.840
tomorrow and the day after and the
day after that, because we're gonna be

962
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:30.880
We're gonna be, like I said
at the top of the show, we

963
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.960
have We're gonna have a ton of
coverage on video and written form, on

964
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:37.280
our YouTube page, YouTube dot com, slash game spot, and on the

965
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.159
site. We're gonna be on the
ground. We'll be doing some things.

966
01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:44.199
So I'll probably talk about it all
on the podcast next week as well.

967
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:45.800
Yeah, next week. Yeah,
tune into when you tune in next week.

968
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:50.159
You can hear all about our experiences. But I guess to cap things

969
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:53.360
off, how does it feel to
be at the big show again? You

970
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:57.400
know, we don't. We haven't
had E three a long time, but

971
01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:00.159
this though, we're both because we've
we were talking about this earlier about how

972
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:04.480
it's cool to be back in La. However, I've never actually gotten to

973
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.719
like be experience La. No.
No, no, like be in the

974
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.880
crowd for like a press conference.
I was like, oh man, I've

975
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:13.760
never actually got to, like,
you know, sit down the crowd.

976
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:15.519
I was like, I'd love to
do that for one one year. This

977
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:22.760
would have been a great year because
they had fucking Nicholas kid my HOOLI,

978
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:27.280
Oh my god. I said it. During the stream, Nick Cage talks

979
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.800
like how Jake does an impression of
Nick Cage. Yes, I feel he's

980
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:34.119
fully wrapped around until like a parody
of himself. The way he talks now,

981
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.000
he's too self aware, he's too
self aware. I love it.

982
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:39.320
I'm sorry, Jake, I know
I'm putting being put on the spot.

983
01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:44.000
Yeah. Yeah. The hard part
is knowing what to say, Like I

984
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:45.599
don't know what should I say?
How much you love Nick Cage. What's

985
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:50.360
your favorite Nick Cage movie? Uh, you want me to talk like Nicholas

986
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:52.639
Cage? No, no, no, I don't know if you want to.

987
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:57.679
I love The wicker Man, but
it's probably face off, face off

988
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:02.199
the boy JT. But in The
wicker Man he says what's in the bag

989
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:09.800
shark or something that's really good.
I've never been in a game before.

990
01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:15.679
He's gonna be in Dead by Daylight
apparently, which I liked it. By

991
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:19.119
day I've played a lot of Dead
by Daylight. It's not what I'd want

992
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:23.440
to see Nicholas Cage. There's so
many good opportunities, and like I guess

993
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:27.599
Dead by Daylight will be kind of
interesting. But like even talking to Dan

994
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.400
Rycord earlier, we were saying,
like it'd be cool he was in Mortal

995
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:35.039
Kombat or something. Question for the
table. If you could put Nicholas Cage

996
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:40.599
in any game, what came would
it be? I would make him in

997
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:50.079
Pac That real good? Oh my
god, hey Joker, what about y'all?

998
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:57.599
Uh Shitkay's good? Really good?
Dan was like Dan was saying,

999
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:00.039
like, you should have a fatality
where someone rips his face off and it's

1000
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:06.599
John Travolta and yeah, a friendship
well dead by daylight. I keep thinking

1001
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:13.519
of like him getting put on the
meat hook. It's such a wild you.

1002
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:15.519
I wish he was. I was
hoping he was going to be one

1003
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:20.679
of the villains killer. Oh.
He would have leaned into that really hard,

1004
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:32.159
gone up. God, I don't
know brain y'all. Can rack y'all's

1005
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:40.400
brain think I want him in Super
Smash Bros. Yeah, i'd be my

1006
01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:45.559
main have to be. I want
him insh. No one says that.

1007
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.159
I think i'd want him in like
a like a like a Grand Theft Autotype

1008
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:51.639
game or something. I could see
him in Rocket City, right, Well,

1009
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:56.079
not that, but you know he's
better than that, slightly but better

1010
01:05:56.119 --> 01:06:00.719
than I don't know, like something
like a Sleeping Dogs but like the Stars

1011
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:04.400
Pay or something like an open world
act. Yeah, and you're doing like

1012
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:11.840
kung fu on people, but you're
a cage. Yeah. There. I

1013
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:14.239
basically it was like formulating it in
my head. I was like, yeah,

1014
01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:16.840
you could put in the world and
he's like game and it's like it

1015
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:23.760
takes place in Asia. Oh oh
that he could be. He could be

1016
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:28.119
a party member and eight oh yeah, there you go, Nick Cage.

1017
01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:30.760
I feel like Cosky Bond and Nick
Cage would have a good report either that

1018
01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:33.719
or at the very least one of
the people you call up on the phone.

1019
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:40.119
Yeah, like the summons, that's
right, hell yeah, oh hey,

1020
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:42.559
you have to beat him up in
a side story and then becomes a

1021
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:45.199
summon, yeah, a mini game, or you're helping him with his career.

1022
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:53.800
I don't know, and it's like
you gotta help a run club Sunshine,

1023
01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:58.559
like you know, you're an agent
and people call like like, does

1024
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:00.800
does Nick Cage want to be in
this movie being your options or yes?

1025
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:05.079
Or yes? Oh that's the secret
too. As a career, you never

1026
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:11.559
say no, just do it all. Oh wow, yes a Cage management

1027
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:15.039
hits him. Yeah, okay.
I think I would like to see a

1028
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:19.800
David Cage quantic dream game as the
character where you get to like pick what

1029
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:23.920
he says and stuff. But it
had to be the same quality as a

1030
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:27.719
David Cage game where it would be
like kind of ass like yeah or you

1031
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:30.840
know, like but like he would
because those lines that writing, if he

1032
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:35.079
read, would be incredible, like
for the people who are listening and not

1033
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.960
watching, you shouldn't know that.
As soon as Jake said that, Michael

1034
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:45.840
took off his glasses. But you
know, likes like some of the funniest

1035
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:50.280
shit is like when you intentionally fail
the cut scenes. Yeahs, like we

1036
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:55.639
get to a five hundred percent facial
animations mode. Oh yeah, that's fucking

1037
01:07:55.760 --> 01:08:00.039
gold. Okay, I'm behind this
idea. I'm not gonna rely. I

1038
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.199
don't want this. So when the
chat also said put Nick Cage on the

1039
01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:06.800
next hit man, oh that's too
Yeah yeah, I feel like I'm no

1040
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:12.599
surprise that hasn't happened. Yeah yeah, yeah, because they got Sean's amazing

1041
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:19.479
I because I was an add I
did the I did the Sean Bean one

1042
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:24.159
and it's like a limited time event. So I recorded my run of me

1043
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:27.159
killing him, and I have saved
on a hard drive him never delete this

1044
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.520
because I can't do it again.
Like the people who have pt still on

1045
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:35.840
their play stations. Also, have
you see another Nick Cage is the next

1046
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:44.720
far Cry villain? Yeah yeah,
that could work. I just I think

1047
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:48.760
with far Cry is that like those
games are kind of boring. I don't

1048
01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:56.279
know, like christ like, like
because Jean Carlo Esposito was a really good

1049
01:08:56.359 --> 01:08:58.279
idea when he was like, oh
yeah, he's the villa, like that's

1050
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.640
credible effect. Yeah, And it
actually came down to the game. It

1051
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.560
was like, oh, he's not
really like that interesting in that game I

1052
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:09.000
didn't play. I think they do
a thing that a lot of people do

1053
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.760
is they get h they get John
Carlos, and then they are just like

1054
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:16.399
who has like incredible basis? They
have that man's got incredible range, and

1055
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:18.720
then every time he gets put in
a roll, they're like, hey,

1056
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:21.760
can you do the breaking bad thing? Yeah? It's just because yeah,

1057
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:24.920
yeah, and I'm like, oh, like come on, like he can

1058
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.319
do more than that. So like
like I feel like they just kind of

1059
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:32.159
was like like, yeah, do
do the thing most like the thing I

1060
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:34.720
feel like, yeah, I feel
like that would be the issue if Nick

1061
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:39.520
Cage was a villain and a farcright
game is they just be like just just

1062
01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:42.640
yell all the time, like go
go crazy, do do your thing.

1063
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:46.520
And I and I love that as
much as anyone, but yea, yeah,

1064
01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:48.640
it couldn't. I could not.
That's always one of those things with

1065
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:53.399
like whenever you have a celebrity do
like voice acting or a game or something

1066
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:57.359
like that, it's like there's sometimes
when it super works and then other times

1067
01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:00.880
when it's like okay, so they're
like, clearly they liked them for this

1068
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.800
role, and now they're doing this
role in this game, and it's like,

1069
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:08.079
yeah, it didn't necessarily add yeah
to what the premise of it.

1070
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:11.880
So yeah, well, I mean
more we asked for it, Maybe we'll

1071
01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.680
get Nick Cage and more games.
I don't know. He seemed enthused.

1072
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:17.760
Oh yeah, oh yeah he was. He was definitely on some enjoy your

1073
01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:21.039
gaming type shit. Yeah, he
was like, yeah game. Who wouldn't

1074
01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:26.359
be happy to be a gamer?
Yeah? All right, I guess.

1075
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:30.800
But anyway, Yeah, SGF is
popping off before about Jess, how's it

1076
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:35.079
feel to be in the mix this
time? It's surreal, you're telling earlier.

1077
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:38.640
We like we've been to packs before. Yeah, we've done some of

1078
01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:41.479
the smaller shows, but this one
feels like, you know, it's it's

1079
01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:44.600
it's the fact that we three.
So now that you're finally in the mix,

1080
01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:45.840
Like, how do you feel them? Like, yeah, like I

1081
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:49.479
said, it's surreal, it's yeah. I mean the last time that I

1082
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:54.600
did anything was twenty nineteen Packs East, and I was kind of doing this

1083
01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:59.159
as a hobby. I did not
I was like working retail and figuring out

1084
01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:01.399
what I wanted to kind of do
for a living. And now it is

1085
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:06.079
four years later and I'm doing this
and it's it's very very wild. Yeah,

1086
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:11.119
you know, being it's like you
constantly have those moments like just so

1087
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:15.039
people like listening like understand, I
also am just like constantly shocked to the

1088
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:18.079
maze by like my co workers and
stuff. It's like, oh wow,

1089
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.520
like I am here. Yeah,
Like I mean we're just sharing an office

1090
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:24.960
with like giant bomb. I like
look behind me and it's like, oh

1091
01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:29.399
wow, Like that's someone who I
watch do things ten years ago and I

1092
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:32.600
like look up to That is wild. It's a lot of those moments.

1093
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:36.000
Hell yeah, it's very cool,
very surreal. I will say, you've

1094
01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:41.359
definitely earned your place here y Yeah, you know, because I follow you

1095
01:11:41.399 --> 01:11:43.399
for a long time. I followed
I've read a lot of your stuff on

1096
01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:46.279
upricut. Shout the upcut though you're
just like hyping me up so much in

1097
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:49.079
the show. Thank you. Yeah, But I feel like uppercut was like

1098
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.359
a place where people can kind of
break out of their show. Yeah,

1099
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:55.199
getting some experience, but also right
about things that you just don't see on

1100
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:58.760
bigger sites. So big big ups
to you and the team that you worked

1101
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:02.760
with it was and give you some
props for that. Well, but yeah,

1102
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:05.479
I mean it's it's amazing. How
do you feel like, like,

1103
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:09.439
how do you guys feel like after
being away for so long? And oh

1104
01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:14.119
yeah, I am so happy to
be back in person with like an event

1105
01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:18.159
happening where people go to Yeah,
I couldn't do another like virtual one again.

1106
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:23.920
I think that would that would that
I would. Yeah, so you

1107
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:26.560
usually check out. Yeah, I
was talking about it last night with some

1108
01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:31.199
people. It's just how it's like, like without the sort of social aspect

1109
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:34.880
of it. A huge part of
this career, this sort of this this

1110
01:12:35.039 --> 01:12:39.720
part of the industry is just gone, and I'd argue it's the most important

1111
01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:43.159
part, you know, sure I
would agree with that. Yeah, yeah,

1112
01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:45.640
I'm this is like, this is
these are the moments I live for,

1113
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.439
and I like. I like this
at least from what I've seen so

1114
01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:51.800
far. I like the scale,
uh in contrast to E three because Ethan

1115
01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:57.520
feels like so fucking big. It
was big and fucking loud. Yeah,

1116
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:00.800
oh my god, is blown out. Nonst the full room is fucking fifty

1117
01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:04.720
degrees and then you go outside it's
ninety degrees in LA. That's been the

1118
01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:08.880
silver lining of this. Actually the
weather in LA right now, great,

1119
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:12.840
yeah, some good weather. Oh
yeah, last year was like ninety five

1120
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:15.279
or getting getting burnt out there.
But yeah, yeah, I think that

1121
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:18.680
the scale of the show where it's
now announced SGF, So it's not like

1122
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:24.439
they're renting out the LA Convention Center
and they got two hundred feet banners hanging

1123
01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:28.399
from every hotel. So it's a
lot a little bit more intimate at least

1124
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:30.239
on the work side of things,
it's a little bit more manageable, it

1125
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:34.119
seems. Yeah. So it's a
good balance between having a good time and

1126
01:13:34.199 --> 01:13:38.000
joining what you're doing and like actually
doing the work that you want to do.

1127
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:42.479
So I am I can't speak for
everyone, but I'm I'm hyperie,

1128
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.079
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but uh yeah, I guess any

1129
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:48.920
last thoughts before we close this thing
out. I think I'm good SGF.

1130
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:51.359
Baby, we out here doing our
thing, you know what I'm saying.

1131
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:56.640
Twitch Out TV Slash Game Spot every
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1132
01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:00.479
Spat after Dark, y'all's favorite video
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1133
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:02.479
a little late today because you know, we're we're we are in LA and

1134
01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:05.239
like I said, be previous Devolver
there, we had to wait for them.

1135
01:14:05.479 --> 01:14:10.560
Yeah yeah yeah, so shout out. So don't want to compete with

1136
01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:15.359
them, you know. Yeah yeah. So if you want to know everything

1137
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:18.520
that is happening at SGF, all
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1138
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:23.800
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1139
01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:28.800
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1140
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:31.600
this week because we uh we because
we're here, so we don't have spot

1141
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:34.399
on. We don't have Kurt Locker. No, no, no, no

1142
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:39.079
hud. So there is hud.
There is hud. There is this week

1143
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:43.039
this week. So but yeah,
I mean there's a ton of stuff,

1144
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:46.119
like I said, to to follow
for us and we will be back again

1145
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:54.239
next week to talk about our experiences
as well anything else. Oh plugs,

1146
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.800
Jake, where can people find you? You find me at Jacob Deck.

1147
01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:00.920
But more importantly to bet see James, tell her it's time for that golem.

1148
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:02.720
And it didn't come from us,
It didn't come from us, But

1149
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:06.840
tell her it's time for that golem. Spoiler cast. Yeah, he's get

1150
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:11.119
on it. We're gonna keep this
going for as long as possible. Yeah,

1151
01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:13.800
she has. She hasn't been on
in a while. Until she comes

1152
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:18.159
on show again, she will find
out her new obligations to the Lord of

1153
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:21.159
Rings call them Joel. Look,
Psyche, Where can the folks find you?

1154
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:26.680
Hey? You find me at Hell? Yeah? Yeah, that's all

1155
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:30.840
right. And Jess, you can
find me on Twitter at a while,

1156
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:35.600
Jess at you yeah. Oh,
and tune in tomorrow night for the Giant

1157
01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:40.199
Bomb stuff. A lot of people
are gonna be coming through there. I

1158
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:42.560
think all of us are on there
at some point, at some point,

1159
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:46.159
a lot of cool people. Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be wild.

1160
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:49.680
So Jeff Gruve is heading up the
Giant Bomb Couch. That thing is coming

1161
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:55.279
back, and it's going to be
Friday, Saturday Sunday starting at six pm,

1162
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:59.039
I believe, and then running on
till about midnight. Everyone across the

1163
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:01.000
industry, a lot of people that
we know, a lot of developers that

1164
01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:04.880
you may be familiar with, some
you know, some people you you may

1165
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:09.880
not know, and we'll get to
know through the Giant Bomb Couch. And

1166
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:12.439
a lot of big names are also
gonna be rolling through. So that is

1167
01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:15.840
at Giant Bomb dot com, Giant
Boom dot com, slash Chat, or

1168
01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:19.000
Twitch dot tv slash Giant Bomb.
Yeah, you're gonna see a lot of

1169
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:21.920
dope stuff and that's there's a lot
of work that goes into that, So

1170
01:16:23.119 --> 01:16:26.039
shout out to the Giant Bomb team. Oh yeah, I'm excited to be

1171
01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:28.239
on the couch, but I'm just
we're gonna be chilling. It's gonna be

1172
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.600
happening here in the office and be
chilling with all the great people here in

1173
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:35.279
Los Angeles, California for Summer game
Fest. You can find me in all

1174
01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:39.880
of my bullshit at Michael Pheam on
Twitter and at GameSpot dot com, your

1175
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:43.600
favorite video game, the number one
video game website in the world. And

1176
01:16:43.720 --> 01:17:05.239
with that we out a be