Want to be an American idiots. Oh, there's plenty of those to go
around. Still need to contribute to the stash of American idiots out there,
both in and out of office. A few minutes after nine Gary Jeff Walker
and for Scott's loan today and tomorrow. And I gotta tell you before we
get rolling here, Stepping outside my front door to day was like a dream.
It was like I was in not just in another season, but on
another planet. Compared to what we've been through for the past two to three
weeks. Oh my, you can breathe and you don't mind taking another step.
I mean, I really ought to be more concerned about my physical health
and you know, run a little bit, walk a little bit. I
today was a day I would take it up. I'm telling you, man,
I could have. I could have easily ran a mile with no training
whatso this morning and come back home and be perfectly fine or dead one or
the other. But it felt good. Doesn't it feel good? Feels good?
The RNC Republican National Convention continues the Pennultimate tonight and JD Vance last night,
the vice presidential pick of Donald Trump. Tonight, the Trumpster speaks to
put a cap on that whole thing. And there are similarities between this twenty
twenty four race and the one in nineteen sixty eight. So I thought it'd
be a great thing to have our first guest, and we're going to talk
for our first hour here with Rick Robinson, an attorney and someone who has
just amazing life experiences. I can't wait to let him tell some of these
stories, and of course the book nineteen sixty eight, which is a primer
for understanding baby boomers, and somebody understand me. Then, uh, you
know, I got to at least talk to him and find out how he
came to these conclusions and how how he got there. Rick, good morning,
how are you. I'm doing great, Gary, Jeff. But if
you're going to tell the folks who are listing that you were going to run
a mile today, I could have. I'm going to tell him that,
you know, I'm going to fly to the moon without wings. I mean,
come on, man, come on, You and I are not runners.
Let's go there. I could have jogged a mile, and I am
a I am a notorious walker, so I could have vamped it up just
a little bit, but it just felt so good. Yeah, yeah,
what a great day around it. In my own juices, the second I
stepped out the door, I'm trying to figure out where I can go fishing
as soon as I'm done here. Oh, there you go. Not a
bad day for fishing at all. Brother, So let's uh, let's start.
I found out some things about you just as we were talking before we
started here, about your experience in Washington, d SEE. To me,
that's never been a place that I would think would be a great lifestyle choice.
And I talk about politics, and I'm interested because politics kind of kind
of rules how we get to live our lives in this country. You know,
who gets elected, and the policies and the things that they do,
the laws that they pass and sign. It does affect our quality of life.
But I really don't like politics at all, and I would not want
to be in the bedroom of our nation's capital, where I think too much
power is centralized already. I just but you found it to be I found
it to be fits and they want invigorating, maybe because I have been in
somewhere in politics almost most of my life, Gary, Jeff. But my
wife and I went to Washington, d C. First during the end of
the Reagan administration. I went to work for then Congressman Jim Budding as his
legislative director and spent a bunch of time up there with that. My wife
ended up going to work and became a secretary for then Congressman Connie Mack.
So we were we were the Republican legislative baseball couple that that that found ourselves
in Washington, d C. And at the time, you have to remember,
there was a different degree. There was a degree of congeniality amongst staffers,
amongst members, and it was actually a very fun place to be,
you know, when you would go in the evenings. I can remember and
taking my friend for instance, I got to meet PG O'Rourke while I was
in Washington, d C. Helps him write his book, did some fact
checking on his book for Parliament of Horrores, which is if you've never read
Parliament of Whores, it is the best book on how government operates, and
you'll get a good chuckle out out of it. When it happened, well,
I love PJ. O'Rourke's writing anyway. Well, and one of those
things that you know, PG and I. Right before I passed away,
I did an interview where I interviewed him. Uh, and I, you
know, I don't think it's a book that could be written today because it
talks about the congeniality. It talks about humorous things, and there is no
humor in Washington anymore. Staff doesn't. You know. Staffers don't go out,
they don't mingle in the evening. They go home. They you know,
the only I've said many times, the only people that they hate more
than the other party or people within their own So it's not a fun place
to be as a staffer. But when we went there, it was a
great place to be for a couple of reasons, one of which being one
of my dear friends at Tourney brother of mine, who lived in Washington,
d C. About a block from us, was a secret Service agent.
He was on the e ERT team. He's one of those guys that's in
the black uniforms that you see. And we beat down at the office one
day and I get a phone call and it's like, you and Linda work
late tonight. E ERT is Extraction Rescue Rescue Team. Okay, go ahead,
and the he would call us and go, hey, what are you
doing tonight? Reagan gets in at ten o'clock. You want to be part
of the crowd, you know. And my wife and I we didn't have
any kids at the time. Boom, we were in the car, we
were down at the White House. We would you know, we would just
hang out at the White House and wait for the President to come in and
got to meet if several presidents got to be in the Rose Garden. I
tell people I got to go to the Rose Garden one day with my boss,
Jim Bunning, Hall of Fame baseball player. Yeah, for a celebration
of the All Star Game with Bush forty one, where he was giving a
Presidential Medal of Honor to Ted Williams and Joe Demaggio. Wow, you know,
hanging out in the Rose Garden with the president, your boss, who's
a Major League Hall of Famer, Ted Williams and Joe Demaggio. That's not
a bad day, kid from Ludlow, No, that's not bad at all.
That's a pretty big day in your life. We went down. When
you right behind, you could see Gary Jeff Right now. If we weren't
on radio, if we're just on television doing a podcast, there is this
big screen of the Cincinnati Reds right behind him. Yep. And you know
when the Reds won the Wire to Wire, I got to go to the
White House for the celebration in the Rose Garden. No kidding, Yeah,
it was just it was phenomenal. Again, my friend on the Secret Service
got me into that, got me two of the passes. We go in,
we we sit down, we we do everything. Remarkably, after the
ceremony is over, the President doesn't leave. He is so enthralled by being
there witha sits there, and I had a ball in my pockcause I wanted
Loop Penella to autograph my baseball. That was like going to be the whoop
for me. Well, we're standing there, Linda and I are standing there,
and right about then, Milly comes out. Remember Millie the dog,
the White House dog. Sure yeah, Millie comes running out, immediately runs
to my wife. My wife goes down to one knee rubbing Millie's belly.
Suddenly we look over and there's those pair of white hoes, Barbara Bush bar
and we look down and it's like, oh my god, somebody's gonna shoot
us. We're petting the first dog. This is not the protocol. This
is not happening, according to dude. So She looks down and she goes,
well, now rubbing behind the ears. She likes that. She likes
behind the ears. So my wife, Barbara, Yeah, tell me what.
My wife looks at me and she goes, give me the baseball,
and I'm thinking, oh, I'm gonna lose my loop penel autograph here.
But I handed the baseball. She stands up. She looks at Missus Bush
and goes, Missus Bush, would you sign my baseball? No, Barbara
Bush looks at the baseball and goes, I've never been asked to sign one
before. I don't know what I how do you? All of a sudden,
we're all three staring at the baseball and all of a sudden, here
watch it down. And bar forty one comes up behind her and she said,
well, this nice couple from Kentucky. They want me to sign their
baseball, and I've not done it before. Well you go right across the
sweet spot right. That's a good impression, thank you very much. Used
to do it for any fingers on eb and all the time for it.
So she she goes, look, George, you sign it for him.
So we walk out of that Rose Garden ceremony. I was hoping to have
a an autographed Loop Panela baseball and I end up having a George and Barbara
Bush autograph baseball. That's a great story, and you're okay with that.
I'm okay with that, although I did I did get a picture of me
and Lou and Tony per so that kind of worked out. You've been to
a lot of places and seen a lot of things and lived a lot of
things too. We're going to get more into nineteen sixty eight, the book
by Rick Robinson that's been out now for a few months. I remember I
had you on right after it was released, right after well, actually first
time I was on was when it was in the still pre order stage.
Yep. I do remember, and I don't know if you remember what we
talked about, but I said on that show Joe Biden would not be the
nominee of the Democratic now you know, and I have said similar things,
maybe without as much to back it up for months and months and months.
In fact, I didn't know that he'd make it past the two year mark
in twenty three. I had serious doubts because at that point Kamala could have
kicked over and had not only the rest of that term but two more terms
to serve if she could get elected. And I think one of the reasons
they haven't made the switch yet because they're not sure she could get elected.
That's the whole issue with Joe right now, as they know he can't get
elected much in the same way that Lyndon Baines Johnson saw the writing on the
wall in nineteen sixty eight and said, I'm not going to be able to
get elected. I'm not going to go through all that just to lose.
Is that basically that That's the thing that I find very unique about the comparison
between nineteen sixty eight and twenty twenty four in the presidential campaigns is the fact
that Linda Johnson knew he could not win the election, knew the Vietnam was
going to keep him from doing that. He goes to the first primary,
which at that point was New Hampshire, it wasn't Iowa, goes to New
Hampshire, wins but barely over McCarthy, and it was that left wing peace
push that he saw coming and he only won by a couple of points.
And now all of a sudden, Bobby Kennedy's talking about getting in when Musky's
talking about getting and all these other Democrats are starting to look at getting in.
He knows that if he stays in he can't win the race. He
gets out and hands it the mantle of the Democratic Party to Hubert Humphrey.
Hubert Humphrey ends up being so tied to Lincoln's Vietnam policies that he comes out
of the convention with no chance whatsoever of winning the presidency, because you have
the left of the party, the progressives of the Democratic Party, looking at
it and going he's sticking too much to the Johnson platform, which was very
much good right when it came to Vietnam, very hawkish, and when you
took a look at that, they they it's funny when you read the news.
I went for a year and read every newspaper out of Greater Cincinnati to
come up with this book. And if you read the people who didn't like
Humphrey because and this will sound strange, he wasn't a liberal. Hubert Humphrey
may have been the most liberal person ever nominated by the Democratic Party, but
they did Georg George McGovern pretty close. Well, well, you George,
the government you have, yeah, And the definitions of liberal and conservative has
changed greatly since then. Well today, if you're talking about a liberal,
you're basically talking about a Marxister communist, and there are plenty of those in
the Democrat Party right now. But anyway, but but but he may have
been the most liberal at the time that ever been nominated. I mean,
you know, social issues, everything else. But he was so tied to
Johnson when he came out and came out of the convention. And you also
had what happened at the convention being the you know, the the riots that
happened of the SDS going up organizing Andy War demonstration, daily setting the police.
How do they stop that? This year in a month in Chicago,
they're doing and they're going to do a virtual role called what the whole world
will be watching again. Yes, is what's going to happen. And I
think when they come out of the convention, whether it's going to be Joe
Biden, whether it's whom it's not going to be Joe Biden, whoever it
is, I don't think they have a chance going into the election because it's
going to be just like nineteen sixty eight, there's going to be so much
negative going on coming out of the convention. It's going to be hard to
get there. I tell you what, That's a good place for us to
adjourn for the moment, and we will come back after news. We'll talk
about Secret Service, because you've got some experience with Secret Service, and about
what transpired last Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania, and anything else you want to
cover. Nineteen sixty eight the book. The author is Rick Robinson, and
he is our guest for the entire hour. I hope you'll stick around.
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People got God? God still be free. Flos Cavalary The Rascals from
nineteen sixty eight. Also the title of Rick Robinson's book. He's here talking
about the difference is the similarities that there were many similarities, But Rick,
what were the what was on the charts this week in sixty eight or this
month? I went dead? There we go? I'm back? Yeah,
So I open up every chapter in the book with just kind of an overview
of media. All right, what's going on, what's happening, what's who's
on the monkeys? That way every year there you take the year month by
month, month by month and jump in it. So in July number one
on the rock charts, Jumping Jack Flash, It's a Gas Gas Gas by
the Rolling Stones on the R and B charts, I Could Never Love Another
by the Tempts Okay Good and on the country charts, Falsome Prison Blues by
Johnny Cash. I hear that train of coming. It's a coming around the
bend. You know. I've got my own lyrics to that. I won't
do. Yeah, we probably not appropriate for it. It'd be more appropriate
for the bar later on today when when you when you when you hang out,
you get get get there with your buddies. But you know, one
of the things that and I think music is such a microcosm of what's going
on, not only in a region but in a country. And that's one
of things I try and wrap up, wrap into this book is kind of
the music scene of Greater Cincinnati, northern Kentucky and some of the bands that
we had and some of the people that played and some of the groups you
had. You had the Dingoes, you had the New Lime, great groups
that were local groups. You had the Lemon Pipers from out of out of
Oxford who made it on the national charts. The New Lime actually had a
song that made it onto national charts, that Girl, written by former judge
Mickey Folger, the Honorable Mickey Folger. I knew, I knew, you
knew, Mick. And as you take a look at some of these,
it's really kind of interesting to watch that. One thing that people forget about
Northern Kentucky during that timeframe is the country charts, and on the country charts
in nineteen sixty eight, Kenny Price released two albums and Skeeter Davis, one
of the singing Davis sisters from Northern Kentucky, released an album that year as
well. Both rose up on the charts, didn't get to number one,
but it's something to keep in mind if you look at it. The other
thing on the Cincinnati side, you got the godfather of soul, the hardest
working man in show business, James Brown, is recording right down the street
of King Records. So that's cool, wonderful wonderful time frame for music.
And as I tell people Wallsey, you look at it, you know,
you look at all the people, and this person became that, and the
person became that I always talk about. And then there were the Denims,
which were referred to as Cincinnati's Beatles, and Adrian Blue became well Adrian.
Yeah. Well, you're talking about how focus back to the convention. You're
talking about how the two parties are kind of in as similar mode as they
were in nineteen sixty eight now in tour twenty four, in the fact that
both the Democrat Party you say, and the Republican Party are changing. They're
in the midst of a great seed change just in platform and in how how
they're presenting themselves and messaging and message and messaging and who they're trying to go
to, which, for one reason is if you took a look at or
listen to JD. Vance's speech last night, it is indicative of what's happening,
and particularly in the Republican Party, is that there is a change going
on. You remember a couple of years ago we went to convention. The
Republicans went to convention without even a platform. Suddenly the platform is starting to
change, and it's starting to look a little more like the or the Trump
populism side. It's starting to look more like a lightning up on the on
the abortion issue, you're looking at an issue, especially when it comes to
international affairs. What's going to happen in Ukraine? Is Ukraine going to become?
You know, are we at a are we at a moment in time
where we're where you know, there's people always say where we ad a Neville
Chamberlain moment in the Ukraine? Are we at some of these places? And
you see the Republican Party moving that. Jd. Vance is the perfect person
for the Republicans to take that forward because you're looking at someone who grew up
in Middletown and can go into the blue Wall states and give a message the
belt, the rost belt statement. Look, you and I both know nobody
votes for vice president. No, but he's the perfect messenger for this new
era that is moving forward in the Republican Party. In fact, a lot
of a lot of pundits say that nobody votes for vice president, but a
lot of people will not vote for a ticket because of a vice president.
Well, you know in Georgia or the Sarah Palin factor. Well, Sarah
Perlin factor. I'll go back even further than that. When you take a
look at what was going on in nineteen sixty eight, you have George Wallace
as the third party candidate who is moving forward, moving forward, moving forward,
within hours of announcing a running mate as Happy Chandler from Kentucky. But
the Wallace people didn't like that he had helped break the color barrier in baseball
with Jackie Robinson, and they end up choosing General Walter LeMay. LeMay who
was very much a drop the bomb on Vietnam guy. They go to the
press conference where their announcing it and they say, whatever you do, don't
bring up nuclear weapons. First thing he does brings up nuclear weapons. I
think we ought to consider the nuclear option on Vietnam. And you see Wallace
eyes just drop, and he actually leaves his own press conference because LeMay has
now put the nuclear option for Vietnam on the table. So, you know,
you look at some of those things, and you look at what's happening
in You're right, it doesn't keep you for voting for someone, but it
sure has heck killed any chances that George Wallace had at that point of putting
together enough electoral votes to throw it into his house, into the house.
I think that this bait and switch and the Democrat side this time in twenty
twenty four was planned months ago. I don't think, and I don't even
know if Joe Biden's not I don't think he's capable of playing a role at
this point cognitively, but if he's just playing the role of being the person
who just won't won't back down because all the constituents voted for him in the
primaries and they you know, I think there's been a plan for him to
be replaced for a long time, and they just finally found the place where
they can do it, and it makes sense to the general public. But
they hid the fact and the media hid the fact that he was cognitively cognitively
challenged and that he wasn't up to the job. Because I don't believe that
Joe Biden's been in charge on any one day of his presidency. I fully
believe that there's the fact that people are coming around to that realization now,
But I think that's been planned for quite a long time, because plenty of
those Democrats knew what they act Stunned now and they're calling for him to step
down. They've known this, and the media has known it for months,
if not years. Joe Biden had in his head after his election that he
was the only person in the Democratic Party who could win. He had that
in his mind. He had that and said, I know that from people
within the administration who have said this. He convinced himself early that nobody else
can beat Donald Trump in this election. Fast forward. I'm not a bit
I'm not a big fan of debates. I don't like him. I don't
watch him. I've prepped too many people over the years for them that I
get too nervous, and because I want to yell my own answers and people
when they're doing it. I think I might have been watching a hockey game
the night of the debate, and I switched over just in time to hear
we beat Medicare, and I remember flipping back to the hockey game and going,
it's over. Yeah, the race is over. You know, just
like nobody votes for vice president, nobody wins a debate, but you sure
as hell can lose them. Yeah, you know. Gerald Ford declaring there
was no Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe and Jimmy Carter looking across the stage with
that wonderful smile. He is getting ready to just pounce. You look at
Mike to Caucus, not not being able to respond to with it, well,
not being able to respond to a question about somebody killing, raping and
killing his wife. Yeah. You look at Nixon declining to have a makeup
person for the first televised debate sweat. Yeah, in nineteen sixty. You
know, people listened in nineteen sixty, The people listened on radio thought Nixon
won. The people watched it on television except Gad, I could never have
that man as my president. So you look at You don't win debates,
you certainly lose them. And the loss can be so devastating, as in
Nixon, as in Decaucus, as in all of these races, can be
so devastating that you lose the race. And when I watched that one moment,
honest to God, cares you have That's the only portion of the debate
I saw, because I knew at that moment it was over. I was
watching a Reds game, and I was flipping back and forth between the Reds
game and the debate, and every time I tuned in, it was.
It was Joe Biden stumbling through some kind of answer, and I'd say,
Okay, this is exactly what I expected. I turn it back to the
baseball game and I would check another ten minutes down the road at the end
of an inning, and I do the same thing, and the same thing
happened. I was there in one of those channel hopping moments to see Donald
Trump say I don't know what he just said, and I don't think he
does either. That's when I knew it was sober, because that was perfect
and Trump wasn't being mean, he was just being honest. And Trump was
like every other person watching Joe Biden explain something. What the hell did he
just say? And so you have kind of again go back to the similarities
of nineteen sixty eight. You're going into a what is in essence going to
be a broker convention. Yeah, there is no way in my mind's eye
that Biden goes in to the convention as denominee. I think he's going to
be out by then. I said it again that he was going to pull
an LBJ. I said it last year. I stick by that, And
as they go into the convention, it's going to be a broker convention,
and the question is going to be will it be like sixty eight where Johnson
was able to anoint Humphrey, who had no chance then coming out of the
election, or are they going to leave it open where the Edwin Muskie,
where the Geen McCarthy, where whoever it might be on the Democratic side can
come forward and take that mantle of leadership and run with it. That'll be
the interesting side of it. It was also almost guaranteed a loss for whoever
they picked. It will have to be a picture perfect campaign. Are you
still thinking about Michelle Obama? Are you still thinking about someone like that?
That is who I thought from the beginning was that. And I highlight that
by saying, you know, outside of politics, who's the biggest name that
has called for Biden to step down? George Clooney, who is tight with
whom Barack? You know, the Obamas and their folks read that editorial before
it was set in. He's already said that he consulted with President Obama before
it went out. So I think I have said from the beginning that I
thought that would be the play because I look at the other people that are
out there, and I see from the Democratic side, nobody could that can
reunite and excite the party. Newsom has a worse track Newsom has a worst
track record than Biden does he Newsom doesn't have the personality to carry a broker
convention period. No, he he just looks pretty. He just doesn't have
it. And I look at other folks that are out there. You know
what is really concerning right now, not as much as the presidential race,
but you got Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries who are sitting back on We're going
to lose the House of the Senate if we don't do something over the next
weeks. Yep. I mean we're talking more in play here than just the
presidency. We're talking about They're worried about whether or not they're going to become
the speakers and the leader. Are the minority leaders. Well, they don't
want to lose their positions of power real quickly with their last few minutes.
Talking to Rick Robinson, the author of nineteen sixty eight, the parallel lines
are all over that book and in today's headlines for twenty twenty four. You
have friends in the Secret Service. Yes, I do what happened last Saturday.
I mean, this is is it dereliction of duty? Was it purposeful?
Or was it just a Keystones Cops moment that almost that did get someone
killed and almost got President Trump killed? What was it? I have the
utmost and deepest respect for the officers of the Secret Service. Yep. They
are incredible people. I know several of them. I know the training that
they go through, I know what they do on a day to day basis.
There are clearly, and I use that as my preface, because there
are there were clearly breakdowns in what happened. Do you think, oh,
I happened to have just cutting home from fishing. As you know, when
I where I spend my extra days is not walking, it's fishing. And
I turned it on right as it happened, and the first thing that caught
my eye was the former president popping up and being seen by camerash. I
looked at that immediately, and I thought, if I can see him on
a camera, that means that there's a second shooter there. The second shooter
can see him also. Yeah. And then for his personal aid, his
personal Secret Service agent assigned to him, uh to be able to stand up
and let him put his shoes on. Well, he was asking let me
get my shoes and said that like two or three times. And I think
the I think one of the things that you saw there was a familiarity between
the agent and the former president of him respecting the man that he's with and
going, okay, you want to put your shoes on. In fact,
what he should have been done is he should have been with so quickly into
the car that it would have made his shoes come off, because you don't
know what else is going on there. And that was the first thing that
really struck me when I as I was watching it in real time. It's
like, somebody grab his head and push it down. Don't let him put
his shoes on, get him in the damn car. Interesting st I happened
to know one of the drivers. I don't know that it's someone who was
on duty for this, but I know someone of the driver, and I
mean their their job is to sit there with the engine running and wait for
that moment when everybody else in the in the room is going to be throwing
whoever it is in the back seat listen. Uh. I could do that
all day, but we got to go nineteen sixty eight Rick Robinson, Thank
you so much. It has been a pleasure to be here. Gary Jeff,
all right, you can get a copy on Amazon, and August seventeenth
will be at Barnes and Noble with Jeff Blanket Chip signing his book of poetry.
We'll be out there in the morning, August seventeenth, Barnes and Noble.
Thank you, Sir Todd Bensman from the Center for Immigration Studies. Up
after News here on seven hundred WLW, Trending now on News Radio seven hundred
wl Jumpy Amican and Hour number two on this Thursday, July eighteen, twenty
twenty four, Gary Jeff Walker and for Scott Sloan, our next guest,
I've been talking to about his subject of expertise, which is immigration, since
the Trump administration, maybe before. I can't remember when I first had our
first tedt a tay on the radio, but it's been several years. This
guy, our next guest, has been covering what has been going on,
unlike the rest of the mainstream media for the entirety of the Biden administration,
and was like a vocal canary in the coal mine until the rest of the
media caught on and said, oh, well, maybe we should cover this
and not covered up. He's testified before Congress. He writes in many different
for many different publications. The Federalist, I believe is one of them and
many others. And he is with the Center for Immigration Studies CIS dot org.
The one and only Todd Bensman. Hello, Todd, how are you
doing? I'm doing great. Thank you for having me and for that great
underductor Well, you know, the Biden administration first New York has said the
border is closed. This is like two Well, hordes of people unvetted are
flooding across it on an hourly basis, and then they decide to put the
Vice President, Kamala Harris in charge of the border. She goes down to
a section of the borders as Joe Biden has where they're literally they were handpicked
because there was nothing going on. Meanwhile, ten twenty miles away, there's
just a monsoon of human beings crossing illegally into our country and revoking our sovereignty
as a nation. Because you don't have borders, you don't have a country.
You've been covering it all this time. You were probably the first person
I ever talked to about this and and then others followed, But Todd Bensman,
you were the lone voice. So what have one of the latest things
that the Biden administration. I know that they keep claiming that illegal entries are
way down. Are they way down? Todd? Yes, Actually they are
way down. We just had the June numbers come out, uh, and
they are down. The illegal crossings are down to where they were when Joe
Biden first took office. So it shows that, you know, contrary to
what the administration has been claiming, I have to have legislation, and the
Republicans keep blocking me. They don't need legislation, they just need to have
the willpower to do it. And the reason that they're doing it now,
of course, is obvious. The election. The election, and they've got
to be able to get the those numbers down so that they can claim that
it's no longer a problem in the last months of the campaign. So what
they did was went to Mexico in December when the numbers were fourteen thousand a
day, all time ever, historic high. To have the Mexicans shut down
their border and put the military out and round everybody up on their northern border
with US and ship them back down to their southern provinces fifteen hundred miles away,
and it worked. We don't know what they had to pay for that,
or what sort of threats were put in place, but it worked.
The Mexican operation thirty five thousand troops. I've written extensively about this, about
the operation. I've been down there with the Mexican soldiers watching them do their
job on this. So it's definitely an act of operation uh. And it's
really slowed the flow. But I think the plan is to just slow that
flow until November fifth, you know, the election. That's what this is
all about. It also speaks to the fact that the Biden administration has to
finally acknowledge that publicly that they did this to us, because now there were
oh no, Todd, Todd. Do you think that that public apology is
coming, especially from the likes of these people. I don't think so.
No, Okay, you got me. But but but in doing the Mexico
Operation, inducing the Mexico Operation, they are in a way saying, look,
we had to do something because this thing is polling terribly for us.
We're going to lose the election of or this thing. And that was before
it was disclosed that Joe Biden is like some kind of Parkinson's zombie, you
know, at the debate. So anyway, that's what's happening. We had
eighty six thousand illegal crossings in June as compared to the typical two hundred and
fifty thousand crossings. It's way way, way way down because of the Mexico
operation. Primarily it's temporary. But again, this could have been done at
any time by Joe Biden and by Mayorcis and until it became politically expedient to
do it, even though it's a number one topic on most voters' minds heading
into election, they could have done this. In fact, they all they
had to do was not reverse any of Trump's policies when Joe Biden took office.
Isn't that correct all the exactly well, the Mexico operation is the Trump
policy. Trump had exactly this in place, I know for most of the
most of the four years that he was in office. Uh, And as
soon as Biden got in, he reversed that Mexico policy and opened the floodgates.
So I mean, you know, there, there you there, you
go. I mean, this is this is something that I don't think voters
should expect to continue after and assuming Joe Biden wins the election, I think
he'll immediately reverse course and will be right back to where Joe Joe Biden.
Joe Biden will not be the candidate on the ballot in November. I can't
even see that. I know that's outside of your maybe right, yeah,
they be right, But if any Democrat, that's that's a Democrat policy.
Uh, the open borders policy, it's not just a Joe, it's not
a Joe Biden policy. It's a Democrat policy. And also when Joe Biden
took office and reversed the remain in Mexico and all the other Trump policies that
were working, and you admit they were working, it was only because it
was something Trump did. And we have to undo everything Trump did, right,
And I didn't even mention the new notice thing that the administration did an
absolute you know, U turn policy, U turn on Panama's Darien Gap,
which is responsible for bringing in a million and a half people at least from
around the world, one hundred and fifty different countries from around the world into
the United States over the border. All of a sudden, they're deploying American
air assets to repatriate illegal immigrants in Panama to their home trees from Panama.
That just was announced the week before last. They're probably getting ready to do
it now because that is still a wide open spigot. They need to get
that thing shut down until the November fifth election, and if they do,
then the numbers will drop even further prior to November. Prior to November five.
Now, I want to mention that the that doesn't mean that, you
know, hundreds of thousands are not still crossing the southern border in other ways
that you don't see that. For example, there is a Biden program that
allows illegal immigrants to fly directly into the United States with permission I know,
five hundred five hundred thousand in the last year, and then another five hundred
thousand being allowed with permission to cross for the land bridges, eight land ports
another So that's a million right there. They're coming in at about eighty thousand
a month that don't get counted, but that American cities nevertheless feel because they
have to go somewhere. So there's still eighty thousand a month that nobody's counting,
isn't it. So isn't it weird Todd that we live in a country
where next year, if you do not you're an American citizen and you do
not have what's called a real ID, you cannot get on board a jetliner,
a commercial jetliner. But they are flying in illegal aliens, non citizens,
and in many cases they don't know who they are. No, not
just not a real ID, but is there an idea at all? And
is it legitimate? Those are questions every American citizen should ask that program.
They're supposed to be there. There's supposed to show that they have at least
a passport from their home country that's valid to get on those flights. But
the point is is that the flights program is bringing in hundreds of thousands of
people that were going to cross the border illegally, presumably. And you know,
my reporting recently showed that, you know, this is a humanitarian rescue
operation for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans, those four nationalities, but
that they're flying them in from France and Germany and Iceland and Taiwan and China
and you know, all kinds of vacation wonderlands from all over the world.
As though they need rescuing from those places. And so there's this whole the
whole thing is just completely sketchy, man. I mean it's it's just an
admissions program that they snuck in under the wire, under the radar on the
American people. Congress has to approve admissions programs. Yes, here, they
just created this this thing where they're bringing in Nicaraguans from France, like all
like they need to be rescued from from Germany. Is there a large Nicaraguan
population in France. I didn't know apparently, So yeah, I mean,
you know they've got they go all over the Yeah, and Cubans and Haitians,
they're all over the world. And all of a sudden we decided to
throw them this rescue lifeline, you know, put out a rescue raft for
all these Cubans and Venezuelans in Iceland and you know places that are Yeah,
we're talking to Todd Bensman from the Center for Immigration Studies your latest peace which
people can read at Center for Immigration Studies CIS dot org, and the headline
is, while illegal aliens kill and rape, bogus crime comparisons still blunt solutions.
Can you kind of give me a thumbnail of that todd while we're here,
right, because you know, we all know that in recent months,
because of the presidential campaign, you know, Trump is talking a lot about
criminal aliens that are that are victimizing Americans, and this has resurfaced. The
liberal side of the equation claims that all these studies show this isn't really a
problem. In fact, there's a brand new piece up in the New York
Times again today citing these very same studies. Let's say that American citizens commit
crime at greater rates than illegal aliens, So quit worrying about the illegal aliens
and worry about the Americans. And my answer to that is in this column,
which is that you can't you can't compare the two groups at all,
an invalid comparison because we're kind of stuck with American citizen crimes as just sort
of our permanent situation. Well, here, here's what I here's what I
said, this is what I've said. I'll let you finish, and I'm
sorry to interrupt. I've said that. I said this months ago, when
someone made this point or tried to make this point, I said, yeah,
we've got plenty, we have got plenty of criminal knuckleheads already here in
this country as natural born citizens. Why are we letting them in from all
corners of the world too well, of course, and the big difference between
these two groups and why they can't possibly be compared. It's the it's irrelevant
what the US citizen crime rate is. Completely just forget it, because all
illegal alien crime is preventable. None of them should be here. There is
an apparatus to detain and report illegal immigrants, all of them that does not
apply to American citizens, and so up to one hundred percent of all illegal
alien crime is extra it's just adding to the problem. And forget the comparison.
It's just irrelevant what the differences are, completely irrelevant in my column and
just sort of points this out as that people should be arguing this, not
whether America with the I mean, the whole thing is a purposeful misdirection,
a diversion. It's gas lighting on the whole issue, and it's to the
devastation of American society because it prevents solutions. And the solution is deportation and
detention. Block them from entering, and you will reduce by one hundred percent
of whatever you block them at of the extra crime. Yeah, we don't
need are the only thing that that's the only thing anybody should really be discussing
about that, But nobody's really pointing it out. Even conservative border hawks are
buying into this whole crazy comparison studies thing and trying to say, well,
just stop it and talk about the correct talking about the correct issue. Todd
Bensman, thank you so much for your time. Center for Immigration Studies.
You can find Todd's work there, his fine work at CIS dot org,
and he's got a couple of great books, America's Covert Border War you could
look for, and also Overrun, which is exactly what has happened to our
border during the Joe Biden administration. Todd Bensman, thank you so much,
thank you for having me, and stay tuned because very soon I'll be going
down to the Darien Gap on the Colombian side and on the Panamanian side,
So follow me there to track that new policy that I've just been talking about.
All right, Ton, keep up the good work from CIS dot org.
Todd Bensman. Coming up afternoon, Steve Gorham is back with more climate
cult hilariousness on the Scott Sloan Show. I'm Gary Jeff Walker and for sloaning
on seven hundred WLW. Not really into quoting Joe Biden, but this past
week he said, everyone who willfully denies the impacts of climate change is really,
really dumb or has some other motive. I don't think anybody's denying the
impacts climate change. What are the causes? But I'd love to change the
world. But can you find a diaper big enough? Our guest now is
Steve Gorham, the executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America, author
of four books on energy, climate change, and sustainable development, over one
hundred thousand copies of those in print. You may have heard him here before
with me or maybe with Willie. Steve's new book Green Breakdown Becoming Renewable Energy
Failure came out in August to last year, and we're watching that failure unfold
right before us when it comes to the sale of evs and the satisfaction with
EV's and all the rest. To talk about it here, Steve gorm Steve,
good morning, How are you? Good morning, Gary, Jeff?
Great to join you again. Yeah, always a pleasure. So yeah,
everyone who willfully denies the impacts of climate change. He didn't say anything about
fossil fuels or anything else in that statement. I don't. Do you deny
the impacts of climate change, Steve Well, I don't. And he actually
went on beyond that initial statement and said that none of the Republicans in Congress
think that climate change exists. And you know, I've never met anyone in
the world who doesn't think the climate change is I mean, that's just a
flat out distortion. Climate always change. Everybody, everybody thinks the climate changes.
As you said earlier, the question is what's causing it. We've had
long term cycles that created the ice age ages, and those are affected by
the perception of the procession and the tilt of Earth's axis and Earth's orbit.
Then we've had medium term cycles, maybe fifteen hundred years long, that caused
the Medieval warm period and the Little Ice Age, probably driven by the Sun.
And then we have short term cycles Alnino Southern oscillation, which affects weather
all over the world every three to seven years or so. These cycles occur
all the time, so our climate is always changing. It's changing continuously.
No Republican would say that it isn't. But the President believes that your neighbor's
SUV is causing all this when really it's dominated by nature. That's what's really
causing the climate. I got a change. I was so impressed with the
climate change this morning when I walked out the door. It's been so bloody
hot here and humid over the last couple of weeks, and I walked out
the door this morning and it's like seventy degrees and it was just like I
could I felt like I was walking on air walking out the door. No
humidity, A nice little breeze is blowing. The climate changes all the time.
Steve, I don't think that anybody denies that. Joe, no,
Joe always somebody's got to educate him. I don't know who his advisors,
whether his advisor telling him, but you know, unfortunately people accept this stuff
and it's it's very sad. But things are going to change, I think,
and it could be wild when if we get a new president here.
Yeah, I'm praying that that happens, and I'm going to do my part.
A recent survey speaking of evs and the growing dissatisfaction with evs, even
by some EV owners, and the realization that the technology and the infrastructure is
nowhere near where it needs to be, and it's just not practical for long
trips or you know, even even for day to day life, especially when
it's cold, to drive an electric vehicle. A survey by Mackenzie has some
not too great news for the EV market. So what's going on. What's
the latest with electric vehicle? Steve gorm Yeah, that's right. This is
a remarkable Kinsey and Company, the consulting firm, did a survey across the
world, many many countries, thousands of EV owners, and they found,
particularly in the United States, that forty six percent of US EV owners said
they're likely to switch back to a fuel powered vehicle for their next car,
So almost almost half, almost half of people who own EV said that their
next car is probably going to be a gas car. Yeah, in England
there was forty nine percent. Globally, I think it's about thirty percent.
It's still still very high. Charging difficulties, cost of ownership were big issues,
you know, and Hurt said that had that issue too. They they
found they had a bunch of they had about sixty thousand EV's and they found
that when EV owners came to rent cars, they didn't want to rent evs
because it was great when they charge it home. But if you're on the
road, you know, searching around for a charger and having to wait for
it to charge before you turn your car in, all those things are real
big problems. And so they've they've gotten there getting rid of all the evs
selling at very low prices and taking taking a hit to their profitability. Two
and a half years ago, the Biden administration two and a half years ago
or so, the Biden administration, they passed this all this legislation and they
allotted all this money to build EV charging stations and the goal was to have
half a million by twenty thirty. In two and a half years or a
little less than two and a half years, they built seven charging station.
Yeah, and the read the big reason is nobody can make money. Maybe
the people selling the charging equipment, but the folks operating a charger can't make
money on the charger. They have to buy it. They have to buy
electric power upgrades, transformers and things. And then you know, people only
want to charge twenty percent of the time at the charging system, so nobody
can make money with these things. They're about five times as expensive as a
gas pump and then they can serve one fifth of the customers. It's just
not a good business for people to be in. And so you know,
you got to bribe people with subsidies, you have to force them with mandates.
In California, I saw recent paper they think they need a million chargers
charging ports by twenty thirty They've got well less than one hundred thousand. I
think they're only adding about five or seven thousand a year. They're never going
to get there. So this thing is just it's all it's part of the
green breakdown as well. This problem even despite the fact that we have like
twenty two states now that are saying by twenty thirty five, you won't be
able to sell a gasoline car in the United State in their state. But
they're gonna have to They're gonna have to pull all that stuff back and get
back to reality. Well, you know what surprised me about the map that
you sent along with these states that have you know, declared these ev only
mandates by twenty thirty that's less than six years for those of us who are
adept at math. And what really surprises me. I mean, yes,
it's a generally a more Democrat, more more blue state, as they say,
so therefore a green state. What surprises me as Michigan, where all
these cars are manufactured, and yet the people in yards, the powers that
be in the state of Michigan, which relies on the automotive industry, is
one of these states. And I'll tell you what else surprised me is South
Carolina, which is you know, just seems like a common sense, Republican
kind of dominated red state. And South Carolina is in on this, which,
just like I said, kind of shocked me. Yeah, Virginia was
in on a two, but Virginia just reversed that mandate. They had a
twenty thirty five mandate and the governor said, well, we're going to forget
about that. And as you say, a lot of these are northern states
too, and a Minnesota for example, a Maine Vermont it gets cold in
the winter, and if you don't have a heated garage, you're not going
to be able to charge your ev which they're going to force you to buy.
So a lot of this stuff is just it's based on ideology and very
foolish, and it is going to be changing back through something reasonable. The
World Health organization. Recently, you want to talk about reasonable and unreasonable.
The WHO, which you know, President Trump pulled us out of and Joe
Biden put us right back in, recently proposed a global ban on the consumption
of meat and dairy products. How are people, how are people going to
a look at this and are they going to do it? Here to this
WHO proposal, if that has any teeth at all. I was shocked by
this. This happened a month or two ago. And you know WHO is
a health organization. The reason really was not Hell. The reason wasn't health,
It was global warming. That's why they want this ban. And you
think, okay, maybe by twenty fifty, No, not twenty fifty,
maybe twenty forty. No. No. They proposed a worldwide ban on meat
and dairy by next year, twenty twenty five. And I'm going, okay,
what world do you guys live in? If you look at meat consumption,
global meat consumption that's been rising in every nation on Earth except India for
the last sixty years. And as people get wealthier, they stop eating peas
and beans and they start eating more meat. The average person in Brazil is
eating four times as much meat in Japan, five times as much meat,
and the average person in China is eating six times sixteen times as much meat
as they did in the nineteen sixties. So this is this is this crazy
stuff again driven by climatism, the fear of man made warming. Earlier this
year, our own EPA, which is another I think it's miss missnomer,
the EPA. I think it should be the EDA, especially with what they
did in the Animus River and other places around this country responding to environmental disasters.
But the EPA issued Phase three regulations aimed at reducing greenhouse gases from heavy
trucks. Is this something that's gonna fly? Steve Gorham, what do you
think? Yeah? This is this is this is crazy. You know,
We've had a number of people testify in front of Congress about this, and
they say, basically, okay, electric truck can go three hundred miles after
you charge it for a couple hours. A diesel truck can go fifteen hundred
miles if you fill it for about fifteen minutes. And the weight of a
electric truck is ten thousand pounds more so you lose that in your freight.
The cost of an electric truck is double or triple the price of a diesel
truck, and there's almost no chargers out there. California has also passed an
Advance Clean Fleets regulation, basically requiring all new heavy trucks now to be electric
this year. That's not going very well. They have nineteen states that are
suing them over this, issuing the EPA for allowing them to put this regulation
into place. There was one a longtime trucker in Wisconsin said, if you
give me one of these electric trucks, I wouldn't run it. It just
takes too long for people to fuel this. If this was put in,
it's going to require is going to result in twice as many trucks on the
road because of fueling time and for range. How is that environmentally friendly We
put twice as many trucks out there. Well, it'll keep the it'll keep
the construction workers on the highways busy. Not that we don't have enough orange
barrels already. In your latest book, Green Breakdown, you have predicted the
world is heading for a renewable energy failure. And do we see some of
those signs now, Steve already? Yeah. The latest sign just happened this
week Nantucket, Massachusetts. They have a vineyard wind farm offshore which the government's
been pushing off the coast of Martha's Vineyard. Well, they just had a
wind turbine blow up today and it put fiberglass shards, sharp shards over all
the beaches out there. They have to shut shut down the beaches. They
also have to shut on the wind turbine system. So you know, now
this is and this is right in the middle of the tourist season, the
beach season. They got to shut it all down. But you know,
just another example. I'm sure wind is not going very well. About half
the companies it pulled out it's too expensive. Now they're having mechanical failures.
This idea that we need to convert everything to wind, it's going to result
in higher energy prices, electricity blackouts, possibly killing whales, and putting shards
all over the beaches. Not not a really good thing. People are going
to demand to return the low cost, reliable energy rather than this push for
green energy. It doesn't sound like it's too environmentally conscious to have fiberglass shards
of windmills all over the beach and in the ocean, And it certainly doesn't
sound like an environmentally friendly kind of energy for whales and other sea life,
especially during the construction of those offshore wind turbine Steve Yeah, and wait till
we get a hurricane come through. You know, I don't think these things
are going to be able to survive a hurricane. And they're even talking about
trying to build these into gop of Mexico. That would be really bad idea.
So, you know, people just kind of ignore the environment, they
ignore reality, and they push for these things until we end up with big
disasters and again part of the coming green breakdown. Well until they get their
government subsidy and eventually go out of business after they've had a chance to play
with everybody else's money. I mean, that's that's essentially what happens a lot
of times with these government subsidies. Where can people get copies of your books,
Steve Yeah, they can go and get my four books from my website
Steve Gorham G O R E H A M dot com. I'll send them
signed copies. They're also available in ebooks and on Amazon, and read about
all the crazy things that are going on in the world of green energy.
Well, it is a climate call, I mean, it's a religion and
that's why. But it's a false god in my opinion. Steve Gorham,
thank you very much. Else Hell, hello to Bill Cunningham for you and
we'll talk soon, I hope. Thanks your Jef you bet Dan was my
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in American Well. The Republicans have showed their hand at the RNC axios reporting
this morning that President Joe Biden may drop out of the race by this weekend.
And if he's not up to running for re election, is he really
up for being commander in chief anymore like he was ever in the first place.
The answer is no. Will the President resign this week end is the
latest question. After all, the Democrats are jumping off the Titanic Corey Dillon
Tim Crumbrae in the Bengals Ring of Honor. Corey Dillon the all time rusher,
but have Bengals fans really forgotten his childish huffing and puffing and throwing his
uniform up into his shoulder pads up into the stands in disgust and never playing
another game for the Bengals after that. Have they really forgot that? I
mean, Tim Crumbrae sacrificed his body like few others have for the Bengals cause
and well deserved. Corey Dillon, Eh, yeah, okay, I'll give
you that. So in the aftermath of the assassination attempt to President Trump last
weekend at the rally in Pennsylvania, and the murder of Corey Kampertore, the
firefighter and father who shielded his family from the bullets that were coming, you
had to know that there would be the natural knee jerk response that always comes
from anti gun lobbyists and people in this country that he had a military style
rifle. Biden talking in Las Vegas, talking about the assassination attempt and the
weapon that was used, a weapon of war. We must get these weapons
of war off the streets. Every time I hear something like that, I
think of our next guest, because he's got his head on his shoulders.
Thankfully, apparently, they haven't got a good line of sight on him yet.
When it comes to the Second Amendment, and your rights and my rights
are God given that we should be able to own and bear firearms, and
that's uninfringed, uninfringed according to the Bill of Rights in our Constitution. Dan
was of Good Gunbadguy dot com fame and he joins us, now, how
you do, Hey, Garry Jeff, thanks for having me on your show.
And yes it's they said it was uninfringed. You're not supposed to infringe
upon my right to carry a gun, to own a gun, and to
keep it on me. The idea that it's gotten so bad where they're attacking
the Second Amendment is just preposterous at this point. So no, no gun
laws. I am against all gun laws. I believe that if the person
is bad and dangerous and they've proven to show you that, that they should
be locked up. But the problem is left wingers let them out of jail
and lock up our guns. Yes, it's the exact opposite of what we
should be doing. It's it's counterintuitive to actually solving the problem. I want
to know. Now, you've got a big, big event coming up,
and gun owners of America all over the country have a big event coming up
that you've been preparing for in Knoxville, Tennessee. Tell me a little bit
about that, Dan, Yes, okay, So Gun Owners of America is
putting on their very first, real big event. It's called Goals Gun Owners
Advocacy and Leadership Summit. It's on August seventeenth through eighteenth in Knoxville, Tennessee.
It's going to be a huge event. It's going to be the place
to be for firearm enthusiasts, for Second Amendment advocates, and there's going to
be vendors and national speakers. I'm going to be hosting a table of attorneys,
so I'll be asking these attorneys questions about a lot of the current and
recent past lawsuits and court cases, and so hopefully we'll get some questions are
to a lot of those big cases. And then I'm also going to be
doing a book signing for the Good Gun, Bad Guy book series, and
I will be on a panel myself or I'll be talking about a lot of
the Second Amendment related issues that I talk about on a daily basis. So
so look them up. Go to gun owners dot org. Gun owners dot
Org and check out the Goals the Goals Conference at the Knoxville Convention Center and
make sure you sign up. And it's free if you're a Gun Owners of
America member, So become a member, all right. So there is a
local guy who is an attorney in I believe he's in Covington, based out
of company named Scott Kappas here in town, who publishes a book every year
which describes the differences in gun laws as you go from state to state in
the country. I don't know if you're familiar with that book, but he
publishes it every year because every year there's some change to some gun law.
And you stated at the top you're against all gun laws according to our constitution
as far as which gun you can have and how many you can have and
how much ammunition you can have. But I recommend that for people just as
they're traveling from state to state, they need to know if they're actually if
they're actually putting themselves in some liability from some states gun law that's different than
than your own. Any thoughts on any of that, Oh, absolutely,
yeah, I have I have a book. I have a book from Concealed
It's it's called Legal boundaries by state and Concealed Carry dot Com puts it out,
it's pretty good, Sony. Any of these people are who are keeping
up on this stuff and they're publishing these things. It's a great idea because
when we travel, we don't know. We don't want to break the law,
but sometimes there's so many hoops to jump through when you travel with a
firearm that you really need the guidance because they've made it so difficult and so
complicated that you can find yourself, you know, in a bad situation.
You know, for instance, of your drive through a state like New Jersey,
you know they have different rules for whether or not you can have your
handgun on you while you're in your car. Yeah, you know, it
doesn't be in the glove box and they need to be locked up separately from
the ammunition in the trunk, all sorts. Every state's have their own rules.
In some states you don't even want to get out of your car with
a handgun. You want to you know, it's it's very you need to
be very cautious. And there are apps on you You can get apps for
your phone too that will tell you the same thing. So it's a very
good thing. To do. Yeah, this is called Traveler's Guide to the
Firearms Laws of the Fifty States. So that's another source for people too.
I wanted to ask you, you're going to this Goals convention, the first
ever that Gun Owners of America is doing in Knoxville August fifteenth or seventeenth or
whatever you said, seventeenth and nineteenth, August seventeen and eighteen. Yeah,
right, seventeen and eighteen. And what amazes me if guns were actually the
problem, you'd think that these conventions, whether it be NRA or Gun Owners
of America or even these gun shows that people are wanting to shut down,
would be just firing zones. They'd be killing zones. If guns were the
problem, You've got all these people with guns all in one place. I
can't believe there's anything left standing. But no, the guns don't cause the
chaos. And the people who would mostly attend these gun shows and these conventions
are people who are not interested in breaking any law or doing any kind of
criminal activity, or shooting anyone just because they have access to a gun.
That's what always kills me. It's always in the gun free zones where the
most mayhem and murder occurs. We can go on, we can go on
this for hours. Yeah, you're exactly right. You know they want you
to think that we're for those guns. Is going to be you know,
tragedy. That would mean that if you go to these conventions, these firearm
conventions, whether the shot show or or this goals event, as soon as
you're walking, you'll be dead. I mean that's the way they will.
They present it. The exact opposite is true. Again as always with these
anti gun leftists, it's they they preach the exact opposite of the truth.
But what you said about the gun free zones is exactly right. That's where
the most damage is done. It's in gun free zones where people are not
allowed to bring a gun for their own protection. And who do you think
is obeying those laws. It's the people. It's the good people like us
who don't want to get in trouble. We don't want to break the law.
It's not our intent. We do want to keep ourselves and our families
safe. So sometimes forced into these situations that turn us into criminals. And
so we have to be careful with these gun free zones and just don't go
in them, right, avoid the gun free zones because the gun free zones
are the ones that are not safe. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So,
yeah, so I talk about gun free zones all the time. And
Joe Biden introduced the Gun Free School Zones Act in nineteen ninety as part of
the Crime Control Act. And ever since then, ever since Joe Biden introduced
that bill, Hello Columbine, Yeah, yeah, schools have been getting shot
up and they don't The Democrats love it. They don't do anything about it
because every time there's a school killing with a gun, they get to push
for more gun control. They don't care about the chilled teachers dying. Exactly
awful. Well, and you know, now the discussion about what kind of
a weapon that this miscreant in Pennsylvania used to attempt to kill President Trump and
did kill that fire chief, that wonderful brave man family man, one of
God's great creatures. They're talking about style of gun and the news all in
ar style weapon and what is it? What difference does it make? What
kind of weapon? Abraham Lincoln was killed with a little revolver that had a
lead ball in it. Uh, you know, Uh. John F.
Kennedy supposedly killed by a shotgun held by by the patsy there in the Texas
school book repository. So, I mean, what difference what kind of weapon.
It's the actions and it's the people pulling the triggers that matter, isn't
it. Yeah, well of course it is. It makes no difference what
was used, because what the problem. The reason they do that is because
the anti gun people, the people who live among us, who are scared
to death of guns and have been conditioned to hate gun owners, they they
need they need to hear this over and over and over in order to keep
them in that pas position of anti gun you know, anti anti gun ISSM.
You know, it's really what it is. It's a disease. And
so if they if they stopped for a minute with the rhetoric, the assault
weapon rhetoric, or the AR fifteen demonized, you know how they've demonized the
AR fifteen, if they stopped for a minute with that stuff, these people
will start to general, you know, slowly gravitate back toward reality. They
can't have that. So anytime they have the opportunity to use the term gun
violence, assault weapon, talk about the demonized AR fifteen, which is really
just everybody should have one or talk about gun you know, the red flag
anything, any magazine, capacity and all this stuff. Anytime they have the
opportunity to do that, they're gonna use it because they have to remember that
they need to keep their minions scared, scared and will and that's all they're
doing. You know, the A fifteen. Everybody you've got an AR fifteen,
most common rifle used in America. No, listen, Dan, I'm
sorry we're running out of time, and I apologize for that. But how
can people find you? Dan? Was? Two ways my show Loaded Mike.
You can go to Loadedmike dot com. That's m I C microphone Loadedmike
dot com. Check out the show every week. And you can go to
Good Gun, Bad Guy dot com for the book series. And thanks so
much, Gary Jeff, you bad man. You're You've saved my bacon a
number of times by being a guest and given such great information. Dan was
everybody Peter Bronson in an exclusive interview Coming up after News, Gary Jeff and
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And not because he is so knowledgeable, not because he brings just great
things to almost anybody's life. He touches, it seems to me, but
because he makes my job easy, because he's such a great guest. I
really don't have to work that hard when I'm talking to Peter Bronce and so
once again, the author of so many great books, the man who saved
Cincinnati, not in our town, Forbidden Fruit, and it goes on and
on and on, Peter Bronce, and how are you. I'm fine,
I'm doing great, loving this summertime. Glad to be with you. For
a minute there I was wondering, who is this guest he's talking about.
I bet, I bet you were knowledgeable and capable. I bet you wish
it was more like Arizona without the humidity. Right. Well, you know
I love the heat in Arizona. A lot of people don't like heat.
I like heat too, and I like heat with low humidity. So yeah,
I do love I did love Arizona quite a bit. Now. There
were days, though, when it was like in the late end of the
tail end of summer and early fall when you thought it would never end,
and the sun was just relentless, and you'd come out of your office and
get your car, and you would get like second degree burns touching your steering
wheel and even touching the door handle. You know, that chrome that's been
sitting there in one hundred and five degree sunshine all day. And yeah,
so there was you sit in the seat and grab the steering wheel and it
just like melts your hands melt right into the steering wheel. We stood drive
like we're drumming on the steering wheel, you know, because until the air
conditioning kicked in. Let's let's talk a little bit about the events of the
last week. The elephant in everybody's room, obviously, the assassination attempt at
President Trump last Saturday in Pennsylvania. Yes, and I know you wanted to
speak to the providence of God. Many people have said this this week that
this was clearly a lot of never trying to act of God. I mean,
President Trump said, I don't know if it's God or if it's luck.
But we see I think he knows. The believers see yes, And
people who don't believe will just say it's blind luck or whatever, but there
seems to be a plan. Yes, we believe there's a plan. That
always has been a plan. But God He's in control, a plan in
place to not only maybe at this point, after all the trials and tribulations
the man has been through and our country has been through the last three and
a half years, that God is ready to show us what can be and
what could be and what should be amen. And you know, if you
look at your Bible and look at the Psalms especially, but in many places
in the Bible, one of the repeated messages that keep surfacing again and again
in the Psalms is that God is on his throne, he is sovereign,
he is in control. All this makes some people nervous because they think they're
in control and that they're the king of the universe. Well, it really
should be a message of liberation and freedom because it sets you free. It
sets you free from that burden you carry around every day thinking that you have
to control events. Really, I think that's one of the unmistakable messages that
God gives us through his book the Psalms, and I think we saw evidence
of it in the past few weeks. We've seen a lot of evidence.
But one of the things, one of the ways to kind of get your
head around this, I think, is to try and game out the scenario.
Where would we be today had that bullet been another inch closer right,
we would be looking at complete chaos. Well the Republicans wouldn't even have a
nominee. And not just chaos for the Republicans, but there's already chaos for
the Democrats. And we still don't know exactly who is going to be on
the ballot. Joe Biden says it's going to be him, definitely, but
there is so much it isn't it to be running unopposed that the president who
ran on unifying the country can't even unify his own party. And we've seen
exactly the opposite this week in Milwaukee at the Republican National Convention, with Donald
Trump really uni a unifying and shape, you know, shaping up the Republican
Party, where even the people who said I never was a Trump guy,
and people who were in the Trump administration who vehemently opposed his running again,
like NICKI Haley, have all stood up. Now we've got a vice president
who was never a Trump guy. He said in twenty sixteen. Yeah,
this is to me, probably psychologically one of the greatest picks that Donald Trump
could have made for a vice president running mate JD. Vance, And that's
because of his former never Trump guy status. I think that's a great insight
because I really all kinds of people registered Republicans. You hear about the white
suburban women all the time who wouldn't couldn't vote for Trump because of his mean
tweets and because of his demeanor and all of that. In twenty twenty,
a lot of people have seen the alternative, and you know what, Donald
Trump is their guy now, and that's what's going to push him over the
top, I believe in November. And I think your point about someone who
has been there with the never Trumper is coming over is just the same power
you get from a testimony of evangelism from somebody who was a drunk, a
loser, had been in prison. Those are the powerful testimonies people have turned
their lives around. Where is the most powerful testimony about getting control of your
substance abuse? It comes from people who have had that problem. And if
you go to the past, look at people who are really hostile to Trump
and JD. Vance was among those and now he can come at you.
I think it compares to a famous battle of the Revolutionary War called the Battle
of Stony I love when you do this, you go back to history and
you find, you know, a election that fits the narrative of metaphor.
So the Battle of Stony Point was mad. Anthony Wayne was handpicked by George
Washington to lead about two thousand light infantry men who also were handpicked as a
special strike force because they had to climb a sheer cliff face like Point to
Hawk in World War Two. They had to climb a sheer cliff face and
take a British fort that was on a rocky outcrop, completely defended by cannons.
Right, they did it, completely silent. They weren't allowed to load
their muskets because they were afraid one might go off and it would ruin the
element of surprize. And they did it. And when they got to the
top, what did they do. They seize the cannons and turn them back
on the British. So here's the metaphor. When you have somebody who's been
there in the number Trump camp and he sees what the media has been telling
us about Trump, which is a lot of lies. And he can go
up there and seize the cannons and turn him around. He can turn him
back on the media, back on the Democrats and say look, I was
there, I climbed that cliff, and now I'm on top and I can
fire it back at you because I know what this man has done. Yeah.
Nicky Haley did a bunch of that on Tuesday night in her speech.
Again, someone who worked in the Trump administration was the you know in the
United Nations as our secretary, yes, our ambassadors, and she's been very
harsh at times, very harsh. And Trump and Nicky Haley have had these
very public battles during the primaries and wouldn't release her delegates, but she finally
did. And the speech Tuesday night by Nicki Haley, I think was a
great tribute to that unification of people who know that Joe Biden is never the
answer and that the Republicans and Donald Trump must win in November to save the
country. And really nobody among the Republican Party jd Events and Nikki Haley included
nobody, maybe this side of extreme never trumpers like Kinsinger, nobody has been
as nasty as the Democrats, including Kamala Harris have been to Joe Biden and
our being to him. Now, they don't. They're trying to throw this
guy off the bus, and they don't give a rats petwot about what his
condition is, what his frame of mind is, his health, any of
that. They never talk about what's good for Joe. What they talk about
is what's good for our power, our grasp on power, our white knuckle
grasp on what little power we can get there in Washington. D c uh.
Pretty disgusting. This is a This is a president Joe Biden, who,
in his inaugural address in twenty twenty one, use the word unity more
times than any other new commander in chief in the history of the country.
And there has never been a more ununiform, more discordant. Yes, he
can't even unify hisstal much less the country. Look at it. Look at
the way he talks about the seventy million people who voted for Trump. Look
at the way he talks about us, look about look at the things he
says that I mean, it's it's beyond the pale. And the things he
says about destroying democracy and being a dictator and taking away our freedoms. This
is just nonsense. He's been doing it for his entire career. Understand,
this is a guy who also who unconstitutionally decided to forgive all these these student
college loans. You know, you don't want a dictator in office. Oh
no, you know, No matter what the Supreme Court says, I'm going
to do this anyway. But I have a pen and a phonus. Somebody
says, and that sounds like a dictator to me. Again, it's the
old Salowinsky Rules for Radicals playbook. Do exactly say against them? What what
you were doing? Exactly? Yep. And in all of that embarrassment or
contrast or hypocrisy, whatever you want to call it with Biden, I think
that it doesn't even get in the shade of what the media has been exposed
for in the now since Biden's debate three years, three years and more,
going back to the campaign when he was hiding out in his basement of a
man who couldn't put a sentence together, of showing early onset of dementia.
And all these years they kept telling us he's fine, he's fine, he's
sharp as attack, he's brilliant, he's a great president. I mean,
do these people ever look in the mirror right up until the debate and Joe
Biden's gaps or freezing or whatever it was during that debate are just to continue
and suppote. We've been seeing it for three and a half years, and
they told us, don't believe your lyon eyes. Believe what we tell you.
We had the cheap fakes narrative that was going around wrong for the debate,
and that suddenly went away. Have you seen the latest though, So
now the media are counseling each other to stop running those pictures of Trump with
his fist up after he's been shot, because they call it, you know
what, they call it photo ganda, photoganda, and you know what they're
really saying. Read between the lines. They're saying, this is helpful to
Trump and therefore damaging to Biden. And we're already on his team, so
we can't use this. In fact, our local paper on the online edition,
they ran the picture of Trump, but they cropped out the American flag.
Why do you suppose they would crop out the American flag? Does it
look too patriotic? Does it look is it too powerful? A symbol of
our country where it is today, that flag, the angle of it,
the people there in the scrum, it evoked a lot of memories for a
lot of people. The media propped up the Russia collusion hoax. They couted
the fifty one former intelligence officers who signed the letter saying the Hunter Biden laptop
was Russian misinformation, disinformation that the media has been an end kind donator to
the Democrat Party and to Joe Biden the entire the campaign of twenty twenty,
the entire presidency up until now, throughout the entire Trump presidency, as well
as you find it out right, and the previous campaign. So Hillary Clinton,
Oh, she walked on water. Nothing wrong with those emails, she
erased, You mean with a cloth. An official establishment Washington and Joe Biden
nudging it along with his Department of Justice, have tried to They've sued him,
they've tried to bank they've tried to put him in jail, they've tried
to keep him off the ballots. Everything you can imagine, and now an
attempt on President Trump's life. Yes, I wanted to tell you about something
you may not have heard. I just heard about this this morning, is
that there was a conversation between RFK Junior and Donald Trump on Tuesday, and
at the time, RFK Junior had a videographer in with him, and he
said, I should have I apologized to the president. I should have told
the videographer to stop. But that conversation was leaked. Now, oh really,
and it was leaked by RFK Junior's son, who said these conversations ought
to be held in public. I did not know that. When Trump was
elected in twenty sixteen, he asked RFK Junior to be on a committee on
vaccine safety. This is in twenty sixteen. The committee was never convened.
I'll be done. But you know RFK June he has been one of the
most vocal opponents of the push on the He's been handed nineteen. Yeah,
he's been anti COVID vacs from the get go. I would like to see
him heading a committee that would investigate all the past assassinations and the cover ups
by the Warren Commission and the most recent and what's going on there is just
beyond believable as far as what we know. It just one more thing.
We go back to this providence and I think I think the suggestion that RFK
is discussing an endorsement of Trump with Trump, Yes, this has fault into
that category. He's not getting out of the race. He's still going to
run. And this falls into that category of what I would classify as miracles
that are happening right before us, or God's hand in our life. The
Chevron case, which says the bureaucracy no longer can take control of our country
because Congress and the Senate, in the House and the executive cannot just delegate
their elected powers to these faceless bureaucrats who are unelectable, unelectable, unaccountable.
The next one, presidential immunity, a really sound and smart decision by the
Supreme Court, which Joe Biden's trying to get lean destroy the Court. And
then there's Biden face plant again, the divine hand of God showing us who
is this man in the White House and how dangerous this is for our country
right now, right there on national TV where nobody can look away. That's
the only way we'll ever hold the media accountable. And then you go to
the Jack Smith getting fired. You go to Menendez his corruption being exposed.
I mean, the guy was elected, everybody knew he was already indicted.
He's been doing this for twenty years. He got indicted in twenty seventeen and
skated. Yeah, because it was a hung jury. Unbelievable. And he's
just he's just an amateur compared to the Biden crime family and the Clintons.
Oh yeah, I mean, come on, this guy he's got he's such
an amateur. He's keeping gold bars in his house and put stuff in cash
in the pockets of his sport coats and shoes and his slippers, And yeah,
I know that's an amateur. Man. You're supposed to set up twenty
five LLCs with phony names like the Bidens did, and then move the money
around, distribute it to family members. You loute it aroun until nobody can
find it, not at your home, and then you then you write it
in checks for Joe to pay his mortgage. You know, Peter Bronson,
it's always a pleasure. And I definitely and you definitely, and believers definitely
see the hand of God in this. And uh, I hope this means
that God has decided to give us another chance and restore America to what he
intended in the first place. Yes, he's always in charge. Yes,
I don't want to give the impression that God favors one political car Are you
agrazically? I think he favors truth and justice, and I think he favors
this country. The truth is coming out. Amen. Amen, Thank you
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