Welcome to teen Girl Talk. Teen Girl Talk. I'm Susie Cota, I'm
FRANKN Coota, and this week we are gently debutante a movie that I just
like, I loved it. Don't get me wrong, amazing, I just
I had a hard time parsing it. I guess is what I'll say.
Frank, do you think that you're more of an Anna Sophia or amya?
I'm a Miss Dennison all the way. No, Okay, I know that
I texted you early on that I was like, I think I know who
the villain is, and then it turned out that was the villain. Did
you kind of catch it thatter? Really? I mean I was not on
Miss Dennison's side from the jump because Miss Dennison was horrendously inappropriate with Sophia,
like from the get go. Well, I was hoping to not give away
that it was Miss Dennison, but cats at the bag, Miss Dennison is
raving, Like, I mean, we have seen high school revenge movies before,
but this is a whole other level. What the thing is The one
I most thought of was of like the most because these are the most petty,
petty like steaks and the one I was thinking about was the one when
the woman comes back to high school to be a cheerleader again, and like,
gosh, I'm trying to remember this. Shed she like coach the team
or something. No, she just pretended to be a teenager. I made
a whole list. I can pull it off. But yeah, and like
she ends up murdering like three people as so yeah, I'm like I'm trying
to I'm really racking my brain. I usually I would just say it's my
memory, but like, I don't really I can't blame my memory. These
are all so similar. It was identity Theft of a Cheerleader. No,
that was the name, wasn't it. What a clunky name. And I'm
looking back at our month of cheer movies and if I remember correctilate nobody died
during that month, despite one being called Cheercamp Killer. Yeah. Okay,
so I flooded this by Frank before we started recording, and I know I
mentioned this last week. I think that Lifetime has a new model of like
aspiring filmmakers can basically shop out their films to Lifetime because the and I can't
even put my finger on exactly what the Lifetime sort of style is but this
week's movie and last week's movie The Rachels, they don't have that sort of
lifetime vibe about them. We're not seeing completely empty model homes. There have
been no single moms. We got a single dad, but usually it's single
The movie focuses more on single moms. It's single mom moving with teenage daughter.
The teenage daughter usually takes a back seat to the action to the mom,
and we're always focused on the heroin this movie, Deadly Debutante focuses on
I think I would say, like the anti hero. This movie could also
just be called gaslighting. Gaslighting a debutante as hard as we can, I
know, gaslighting a girl that kind of seems like she sucks but genuinely hasn't
done anything terrible yet. Yeah. So, even though you didn't ask,
I'll tell you, I'm a Maya. You're just constantly calling up youples bullshit
and demanding a big leather line fur coat jacket. Yeah, leather line.
That sounds awful, and I fall out of windows, you off balconies.
I mean, she was health. Here's the other part, the ad R.
There's so much ADR in this movie. And again, ADR is audio
or something dialogue recording like you've got I'll look it up. If they're filming
a scene and the onset dialogue is muffled or they want to change the line,
an actor will go into the studio afterwards and like during the editing process
and re record the line or record a new line. And you can usually
tell, especially on movies where they maybe don't have as much money to spend
on the audio engineering, because the room tone is different and the line sounds
like it was recorded somewhere else. So I think that Fia being pushed out
the window was actually an addition later, or maybe something else happened to Mia.
Mia got pushed out of a window and has a bloodless injury, which
I found interesting. It does seem like she only fell one flu, which
is not nothing. I'm not, you know, trying to dismiss me A's
injury, But in a lifetime movie, Mia would have perished, whereas in
this movie, Mia ends up being sort of a red herring. That's that
plot line is never kind of closed out, where she starts spreading gossip about
Anna supposedly over the hospital Wi FI. Yeah, I mean a lot of
things don't kind of pan out in this movie, Like, we have loose
plot threads that just kind of go into the ocean, and I'm just like,
we'll see them some point in Europe. Yeah, So, Frank,
do you want to introduce us to the world of deadly debutants? Also,
I just want to say eight hours stands for automated dialogue replacement, Okay,
And thank you for looking that up for us before that, Sissy. Yesterday
was Jake Jillen Hall's forty third birthday, and had I had this question,
if you had to get Jake Jillenhall present, what present would you give him?
Ah, So he's kind of a bookworm and he's rich, so it'd
have to be a thoughtful present, as if I have money where I could
buy him like an extravagant present. But I think I would buy him a
book plate in a New York Public Library book because I think he would be
touched by the sentiment. And also he seems like the type of person who
supports public libraries. And he just wrote a book about being an aunt or
uncle, like a kid's book called Like the Stupor. This sounds like a
commercial for Jake chellen Hall, But I just follow him on Instagram and I
find him incredibly whimsical, so I would maybe buy a bookplate. Buying a
book plate for his own book would be weird. I really like the pigeon
books, like the kids books that focus on the pigeon. So I would
buy Jake Jillen Hall a book plate at the New York Public Library and one
of the pigeon books. Maybe don't let pigeon ride the roller coaster while he's
out. My gift for him is while he's out, Uh, I have
like his birthday dinner with his partner. I dating anyone, I don't know.
I just assumed. I always assume all these you know, rich famous
people are dating people. Maybe he's taking this year to work on him.
Uh. I know he has a girlfriend named Jean Cardu. Okay, okay,
cado c A d I e U, and she she's writing. She
writes about fashion, parenting, and pop culture. According to people dot Com,
Okay, but I would as there. I would hire an opera singer
to sing a beautiful aria and then while that's hop yeah, and then while
that's happening, I would fire off a T shirt cannon and when he goes
to collect the T shirts, it would be a twe would go to conelect
the T shirt because every time I fired one, I chell, this one's
for you, Jackie boy. If I was at a romantic dinner with my
partner for my birthday and a man came in and started firing off a T
shirt cannon, I would immediately crawl under the restaurant table and call nine one
one. I wouldn't be scurrying around, especially if I was a millionaire.
I mean no, I could be broke as out. I could be living
up the street. If I was in a restaurant and a man started firing
off a T shirt cannon, I would still crawl under the table and call
nine one one. No, I'm not he's not getting He's going to just
pick up the pile later, so you said, as he's going to get
them or in between the firing of the T shirt cannon so hectic and alarming,
was like, oh, okay, this one's for you. Jacob Ollet.
So when he goes to pick up his product for a singer, is
gonna be okay with this? He goes to pick up his twenty one T
shirts because it's twenty one T shirt, can sloot? I know he's turning
forty three. Okay, I continue, I'm not gonna like that would just
be too awkward to stand there and shoot forty three T shirts. Oh,
I'm sorry. Twenty one T shirts versus forty three forty three is a bridge
too far. I do think T shirt cannons are like single shots, so
I'd have to like reload every time, like I'm a minute maman, and
like the Revolutionary War packing a musket. Yeah, and then like when he
picks up his twenty one T shirts, you would see they're all just pictures
of their white T shirts with pictures of him at my twenty one favorite crying
Jake jill in home moments. Okay, Frank, do you think that Jake
Jonenhall doesn't have a bodyguard. Well, I'm not attacking him with the T
shirts. I'm just attacking the sense of peace in this restaurant. Do you
think this is happening in an army? It's where do you think they're eating
a birthday dinner? Well, it's probably somewhere of a balcony, and I'll
be firing T shirts from that balcony to wear until like an open area in
the restaurant. You'll be firing from the balcony into the restaurant, these fancy
la hotspots they all have, Like, okay, even better, I'll just
be firing off into the streets in New York City and the people in New
York be like, same shit as always. I Frank, I'm gonna have
to think you would be arrested before you got twenty one T shirts off.
Well, it's gonna be like no, no, let him cook, just
let it go. Well, we'll see what happens anyway, and then you'll
end up on the front of the New York Post. And meanwhile, all
our swifty fans are just staying there, just like all I hope is that
he got tears for his birthday. Oh my gosh. I mean, like,
Frank, I just I you know, I always want to encourage a
plan that is based on flamboyance and presentation. This plan, I think I
could definitely use a second pass. Okay, more T shirts? Got it
all right? So I mean, yeah, he's starting forty three, you're
not gonna do twenty one T shirts. Speaking of flimsy plans, Oh,
I see what you did there. Let's go into the deadly debutante, and
none of these debutants are actually all about deadly. No, actually none of
them are deadly. Yeah. Uh so, okay, well here's okay.
Here's my thing is I saw that we were going to get like a spy
verse spy kind of thing where like it turns out like everyone's trying to off
each other, and it's like I sort of thought so too, and I
think they could have gone that way. I just want every movie to end,
like every Lifetime movie to basically end like Clue, where it's like,
here's how it could have happened, here's how it actually happened. Okay,
huh. So you know, I'm trying to think of the parts where like
sort of like you said, there there are threads that don't you don't get
tied in. So at the beginning, right, well, the constantly showing
Anna in like the evil mood lighting that they normally have, like we don't
get any shots of our actual attacker, like or he's stalking somebody, or
we don't get to see anyone stand in the bushes, which is one place
I'm going to give this movie and needs improvement. The hallmark of a Lifetime
movie is we see our antagonist standing brightly lit in a bush outside a house
in clear view of anyone who looks in that direction. I missed that.
I love that. And with this one also, the motivation is a little
money. Usually we get a one to one, right, like my husband
left me and now he's with this new woman. I'm gonna murder her.
And first I'll do it like the orbit of people who are kind of close
to her, and then I'll get closer. I'll kidnap her daughter, and
I'll attempt to murder my husband's new girlfriend. Or it's the opposite. No,
it's usually that. Sometimes we get a flip, but rarely so with
this one. The movie opens with like old timey footage of debutantes and sinister
music. Then we meet Anna. Anna is in a word, unlikable.
She is a queen bee that does not seem to have a very loyal court.
She is surrounded by friends Nicole, who will kind of come in and
out of the movie. She's not super consistent. Mia, who's mentioned before
we meet her, and then once we meet her, I'm in love with
her because she's kind of shitty to Anna, and it's funny because Anna's mean.
And then we see the new girl, who is Brunette and her name
is Sofia, and Sophia is bland. She is given no character arc.
We know nothing about this woman other than that she during an exposition dump between
her and her English teacher, who is like, so strangely invested in her
future. But at first I thought they were family friends. But then as
the movie goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that this woman has just
fixated on a student and decided that she's going to back her in the race
of debutant fall Like immediately, there's no mystery with Miss Dennison, the English
teacher, she's creep So Miss Dennison is like, Sophia, you should go
to the debutante be part of the debutante ball, and Sophia is like,
I have no interest in that. And Miss Dennison manipulates her by saying,
but don't you want to go to Webster College. It's pretty expensive, right.
She stopped short of being like, and your family's broke as fuck.
There's nothing to get to us that her family has, like any sort of
financial trouble. She lives with her dad. He seems like very there for
her. They talk about how the death of the death of her mother has
affected both of them. He seems super supportive, and she goes to a
private school through scholarship. But Miss Dennison, because so, Miss Dennison is
playing the long game more than any other lifetime villain we've ever seen. Because
Miss Dennison helped facilitate Sophia's scholarship, got her into this private school, I
guess set up the sort of machinations to eventually position Sophia don't want to be
part of the debutant ball. Miss Dennisen will go as far as to apply
for college for Sophia forging her father's signature. I Am going to say it
now, and I'll say it loud. Miss Dennison needs a hobby, like
no bad. I've never seen a person so in need of a hobby.
Miss Dennison is on some miss habit Sam shit right here for sure, for
sure, Like I'm like, I'm concerned about you. I really need you
to get a hobby. This is too much. You're doing too much,
so excuse me. We mostly are going to focus on Anna for I would
say like three fourths of this film. She will have consistent confrontations with Sophia
based on nothing, and they lead nowhere. So Anna's mom is kind of
like the least overbearing lifetime mom we've ever seen. She reminds me more of
Kate Wallace's mom, Maven. Kate Wallace's mom and Cruel Summer is more overbearing.
Anna's mom is kind of like like sort of neglectful. Like her husband
is a high powered lawyer in this small town of Newton, and they go
out to dinner a lot. Anna's feeling like kind of forgotten and they have
like pretty normal problems. As part of the debutant, Paul is trying to
like keep up with modern day trends, and they require an essay. Uh,
They're going to be interviewed by the judges. It's not just all looks
based. So Anna has to write an essay. She O, go ahead.
I just want like just I really want to drill home just how inappropriate.
The interaction with Sofia and miss miss Dennison is, Yeah, like there
is a they are talking by themselves in an empty classroom that's like, oh,
that's number one. Miss Dennison puts her hand on Sofia. She'll I'm
like that's number two, And I'm like, if I hear the door open,
that's like strike number three of like teachers don't do this, not good
teachers. Yeah, but the Yeah, there was a point I did think
maybe so like after last week's movie where it was just like roxy slash Rachel
also did not help other help blonde Rachel. I thought there was like,
maybe we're gonna get another twist and Sophia is there, like no, Sophia's
not doing anything, and yeah, but like they do a point out that
what they do like a bit of visual trickery with Sophia because she comes home,
we have her first before we get to the essay scenes. She shows
up at the debutante like introduction or whatever, and she explains to the judges,
oh, I lost my mom and all these other things. Well,
because someone's like, you know your parents, and she's like, unfortunately,
my mom passed away and here's okay, so here's the other one. We'll
bring this up consistently as Sophia's sob story. All Sophia said was my mom
passed away. And Anna's like, ew, this is why Anna is so
unlikable. There's a lot of people who shit talks of me in this movie
for having a dead mom, Like I mean, miss Dennis and herself is
like in her dead mom and I'm like, whoa her said, mommy story?
Oh my god, yes that is exactly what she says. It's brutal.
And I was like all this woman did, all Sophia did was exist.
And then everyone's like, I'm gonna project all of my step onto you,
and Sophia's like they're like too late. It is we're taking how fuck
Sophia's life gets throughout this movie and again she's done nothing. But I think
it's interesting is her dad says like, oh, she's just getting back to
herself, you know, it's been really hard for her. And Miss Tennison's
like, yeah, yeah, but I brought her this dress, like this
is a pretty supportive dad character. Yea. So, but the thing is
they do some visual like I was gonna say, they do some visual trickery
where like she shows up after the introduction thing and like a bunch of girls
were like no, Like Sophia's very pretty and like, you know, she's
smart. She definitely has a chance to win this. And Anna's just like
and it's like, should I use witchcraft and destroy Sophia. I think there's
the other party. Anna says to her friend Mia, why don't you just
drop out? And MEA's like, what, get in? I'm gonna be
involved. Yeah, Mia also like should talks, so feel a little bit.
It's true she's a bookworm. It wouldn't I would like I did.
I also did like mea, I would like me a more of like And
I was just like heard her dead moms and he was like whoa. Yeah.
Me was like, I go after her hobbies like it because I was
raised right Jesus, you know she's literate. That's something to you know,
to ride. I guess gross, you take your stupid kindness and go to
hell. I'd be really bad as a bully because I just feel like,
yeah, you and your cousinly stung your nose in that book. By the
way, show me what that book is. I might want to read it
too, Yeah, would you recommend it? That's always a problem I have
where I'm like, oh, that's an interesting looking cover. Can I read
the title? No? OKAYVE been doing this too long? Look like a
creep, Go go go. You run away firing a T shirt cannon?
You were like, what was that? I shoot the T shirt cannon and
then I break a window and then jump out of the window and fire more
t shirts like a grappling hell can swing away. Yes, broken windows?
Sorry no, I So Sophia, Like I keep wanting about this visual trickery
thing where I thought they were living in like a tiny apartment, Sophia and
her dad, and like she comes home because they only like kind of show
this tiny table and a window, and he's like, here, I got
us some burgers from that place. You Like, you're like, oh man,
they're eating a meal at a bag for no, Like I thought like
that was there, that was their kitchen table, Like that is like the
best they had, you know that that is always kind of a shorthand of
like, yeah, you have Lifetime movies. If you're not eating at a
twelve person table, they're like unfortunate. Huh. Well then they showed this
like these like when later shots are at the house, it's once again another
giant Lifetime movie house. And I'm just like, how do they not afford
this? And like they only have one car, you know, like a
bright and shiny like giant SUV that's clearly like maybe a two years old and
looks very similar to Anna's car. Yeah, So Narry. A conversation goes
by about Anna where someone does not mention she is rich. I just also
want to point out something about the ad R. Is the ad R whoever,
like whatever actor was doing it, and it's a fair number of the
actors they were not putting their whole heart into it, like because like the
when the ADR comes in, it's so off kilter to the scene where somebodyle
like look out and like you know, it's bonkers. So yeah, so
about this essay. Anna doesn't want to write this essay, and she's just
like, hey, parents, can you guys stay here and eat dinner with
me? And they're like, no, go write your essay. We have
we have stuff to do that doesn't involve you. You don't get to come
to dinner with us because we are neglectful. I'm like, guys, I'm
really gidding that they're neglectful. I got it. Cool. And also,
the thing is with Anna's house is Anna's house is constantly in shadow, which
is another reason I think so dark in that house at any time of Oh
wait, we completely forgot about the party. That's why I brought up the
broken window. Okay, sorry, thank you. Do you want to talk
about the party. Okay. The party is strange because at first I thought
it was just the four girls and they called it a party, and I
was like, guys, because the scene opens with the four girls looking at
Anna's mom's debut tanmpball Tiara in the box woo. Nicole tries it on and
Anna's like, seriously, don't break it. My mom can't know him having
a party, which is strange. I thought the point of not breaking the
crown is because this family's obsessed with the debut Tompball, but no, it's
not. And so then the guys get in from the football game. There's
like beer, No one seems to be drinking. They're mostly like sitting around
in the living room and then the lights click off and we see a dark
shadowy figure outside and the guy. No one thinks about calling the They're just
like, let's go check the circuit breaker and then Kenny, who is just
a weenie, like I don't, I don't. I don't like to say
this normally, but he's just such a weenie because they're like, oh,
did you find the breaker box? And he says yes, and they're like,
why did you not put the power back on? And He's like,
I didn't want to mess with the electricity. It's a breaker. Just flip
it. What do you mean mess with the electricity? Why did you go
find the box? It makes Joe sense, I guess, just to be
able to come back and tell us he saw it. I don't know.
Hey, got guys. Let's now call the electric company and have them send
somebody out and I can show him where the boxes and he can flip the
switch because you know electricity. So it's strange. I would have a pre
appreciated Kenny Moore if he was like like upper society, look down my nose
at the poor kind of people. He's like like, why did you flip
the switch? Like the help, like I can are the character like that
in Wonka. It's one of the evil Chaka tears where whenever someone says the
word poor, he goes and they're like, sorry for listening for our listening
audience, how was Wonka? I liked that. I think I'm the only
person in the world I really liked it. I'm not and I'm not I
did not ask you that to like make fun of you. I actually like,
I'm very curious about this film because, like I don't really want to
see it. Like, I love Timmy shallow May, He's very funny,
but I'm just like I just can't care about a non gene wild or Willy
Wonka. I know, and like Johnny Depp really messed it up for everyone
honestly with his Wonka. But I can really forgot about that Wonka movie.
I did too. I did not see it, but I watched the honest
trailer about it and it looks so off funny. So Hugh Grant plays an
Opallompa in Wonka and he is mad at Timothy Chalomey because on the Opalompa Island
it's very hard for them to grow cocoa beans and Timothy Chalomey stole their three
cocoa beans and which were like comically large in the movie The Props. So
now he is owed one thousandfold and so Hugh Grant shows up and like basically
as an Opolova best Timothy Chalomey multiple times, which is kind of funny.
But Slugworth is the one that is bribing the police chief played by Michael Keane
Is it Michael kean Key yes, uh, he is addicted to chocolate.
Mister Bean plays an evil priest who's addicted to chocolate. It's a weird movie.
Is everybody just addicted to chocolate in this Yes? Okay, chocolate is
like drugs in this movie. I nearly went down the road of Bummerville,
but like, I justn't want to say. I read on a thread where
people talking about their interactions with celebrities, and somebody talked about how he met
Gene Wilder, and Gen Waller is very nice. Oh that's good. Did
mister Bean get canceled? I don't think so. I haven't really heard anything,
okay, because I like Rowan Axinson and I couldn't remember if it was
him or someone else. And I was like, he's getting to that age
where it's treacherous and he definitely could be prone to saying something problematic. From
what I can say, I know, I think there's h he I know
it doesn't anything too bad. The thing is like the one, the one
thing. The first thing that popped up was a Reddit thread, and it's
like he's a fake free speech advocate who believes that like people's yeah, you
should have free speech of your opinions. Agree with his that kind of thing.
I mean, that's everybody. Yeah, So yeah, I'm not sorry.
I was just cham going back to the movie. I'm just thinking about
something like the Powers Off. It would have been also very fly, Like
how can you tell? It's like, literally it's already so dark in that
house. I think it's because they're like watching TV or something that they know
the power went out, but there's the room was mostly lit by fireplace anyway.
Yeah, and somebody throws a rock through the window and scampers off,
and it's kind of the least threatening form this interaction could have taken. Yeah,
I mean, like none of these threats are overly like that. They're
like it's I mean, if you if you're a rich white person, I
think they're very bad, but like, you know, I feel like for
other people, like I've seen worse. Yeah, I mean, Anna is
not necessarily the most resilient person. So then Kenny's like, I think we
need to call your parents, So they get everyone out. They call her
parents home from the lake house, and her parents are confusingly non poluced by
like this entire situation. So then they're kind of like, oh, well
that was strange whatever, Like they're not they're not super interested, which really
does make the case that Anna has been pushing that they're incredibly neglectful. So
the thing is like, I'm just like, why doesn't this giant house have
multiple cameras? That is the other confusing part, because she's like, well,
my parents can't know about the party, And we see her push a
beer bottle under the couch with her foot, which like rows she and then
she's like I'm going to bed, and I'm like, wait, just would
have like security cameras was the lake house like next door, because like why
didn't she think to like clean up all the beer bottles? Like you know,
Anna does not seem like a character that is concerned, is detail oriented,
Let's say that. So I just want to say, yeah, going
back to one of my peers statements about like I don't like everybody goes through
their own trials and tribulations, but like I'm just saying for these people's privilege,
like this would these would be a bigger deal, like should be a
bigger deal than they're considered throughout this movie. Well, this is the other
part. As the movie escalates and Anna is becoming more and more paranoid,
her parents are becoming more and more frustrated with her, asking for them to
take her seriously. Yeah, they're like, oh my god, Anna again
with this people trying to kill you stuff. We're over. It's like basically,
like there's a line from the mscuther k movie Space Children, it was
like we had you, isn't that enough? Like it feels like that,
And even like the mom's fixation on the debutant ball does not feel all encompassing
in the way we're used to it in these movies. Yeah, like this
doesn't seem like an obsession. It just seems like, do this for the
family more miss Dennison's obsession. So sorry, Speaking of mothers, I have
a theory. I don't think in half of these movies there's a dead parent
because we need it for the plot. I just think they won't want to
hire one more actor. I would one agree with that, you know,
like, and that's like one more plot line we have to deal with.
It's like, no, there we're missing one, you know, that's less
parent we have to pay. Well, you know, there's actually a bit
like that in the movie. It's at the Once upon Time in Mexico or
Desperado where this guy uh gave the two actors truros. Well, they were
filming a scene and they were just like, we can't stop. We don't
have the much film left. And they're like, oh, I'm glad somebody
gave us these as. I kept talking in their lines and eating the churros.
That's amazing. But yeah, so we had we go to the we
they now we're getting to the like we're talking about the essay writing and doesn't
want to write her essay, so she hires this other classmate named Marvin,
I mean kind of hires him. Like Marvin's like, oh, hennah,
like what's going on? And she's like, you're super smart, I need
you to write an essay and he immediately Marvin's like, quid pro quote,
what do I get? And and it's like, what do you want?
He's like a date, she says. She's basically like nice, try.
I'm with Kenny. I haven't dumbed him yet, like I'm going to do
tomorrow and he's dumped him off over nothing. Yeah, I mean, so
like Kenny kind I am gonna say poor Kenny, like for real, I
called I know, I called him a weenie not even ten minutes ago,
but I know my previous statements like he doesn't seem like a bad guy.
He just seems like somebody I would just not want to hang out with.
Like he gets shot for her, yes, Like, but at this point
I'm just like but like, you know, like also, well we'll get
there. But like so he's like, what about tickets to the sold out
Billie Eilish show? So, and she's like, like, how am I
supposed to get tickets been sold out? He's like exactly. Frank's just like
what this dialogue it is so off kilter. It feels like it was translated
from a different language, translated into a different language, and then translated back
to English. I love it. It's so good. She's like, okay,
whatever, And Marvin, Daddy Marvin is just like, do I see
these tickets will turning in an essay that's not mine or that I've turned in
earlier. Yeah. Also, so miss Kenny is having problem with story outlines.
So Miss Dennison's like, oh, Sophia, will you tutor Kenny on
this? And Sophia's like yeah, sure whatever. And he's just like,
oh, hey, Sophia, you know maybe we could like discuss this over
pizza. And she's like yeah, sure, whatever, Sophia do not have
time for Kenny, and I'm all for her not having time for Kenny.
This movie, though, loves a tracking shot, and we go from the
two of them just down the hallway up some like up a half lay of
stairs to me and Nicole, who are just kind of standing there. And
what's so funny is they're like, oh my god, we have to tell
Hannah. She's gonna be so mad. They literally say that, and it's
just like bad over what It's not like he's like Savilia, well igo on
a day, he's like, please help me not fail English? Yeah,
pizza me fail, me fail English? That's unpossible. So they tell they
tell this Anna. Anna goes from Sierra to one hundred. Immediately she's like
it's over, Kenny, You're done, And the camera's just like I'm a
friendly ghosts hanging around you. I mean, it's not bad cinematography, but
I'm like, this needs to be a dragon shot because I fear those are
kind of hard. So that scenes done with Kenny and Anna are broken up
with the principal, who was also off kilter dialoguing pretty hard and he's just
like, I know you have a lot, Like you know, I won't
get this principal credit for being like, teachers have a lot of work,
and I'm not going to volunteer in my teacher without offering about talking to her
about it. He's like, they need us somebody to read the debutante ball
essays, and Miss Dennison is just like, oh, I have a little
arp, but sure, it's so weird that they wouldn't set this up beforehand,
that they're farming it out to whomever. Yeah. My one of my
other favorite things is just like, you're really telling me because being an English
teacher is hard because you have to read like thirty to forty essays about the
same goddamn thing without your mind like bleeding out of your ears. Yeah.
So she agrees to read these debutante essays and she's just like, hmm,
I totally remember this one student's essay from however many months ago. It's definitely
the same one, and I haven't saved on my computer. I know.
She immediately pulls it up and she's like, this sounds like Marvin's work,
and I'm like, okay, you're not turned it in dot com. You
don't necessarily know, like off the dome that it's Marvin's work. I Like.
One of my favorite things about this is I'm sure she was like,
boy, I can't wait to wait to fuck over. Oh she did it
for me. I mean. This is the other part is that Anna completely
teed her up, like she's like, I'm gonna knock this. I'm gonna
knock this sabotage out of the park. Then she gets out and like she's
like drops the weights off her bat and then a t ball in front of
her like Okay, She's like, oh cool, thanks Annah, I guess
I mean. And the funny part is Anna has the audacity to act like
this is the thing happening to her, not that she cheated and got caught.
Yeah, and she's like, I thought I could just pay my way
through things. That's how you guys taught me. And they're like, yeah,
if she yields it her parents, how do you think I've learned that
money solves everything? Yeah, mom, dad. So she goes up to
the she goes up to her room because her parents are like, we're gonna
go out have dinner by ourselves again, and you can just right your essay
in your room plenty, Like write your dumb essay, isn't it dude.
Yeah, well they the like our debutante representative shows up and she's just like,
look, your daughter is too blonde a wife for us to kick her
out. We're going to keep her. Well, it's like nepotism for sure.
She's like we've been friends so long, and his's mom and and his
mom's like we have thank you. Yes, So instead of writing her essay,
she still calls me to steal her essay, and again we get like
a deal. You know, Me as like what are you going to give
me? And Anna is like just give me your essay. You're not gonna
win. And Me is like, I want your jacket and Anna says it's
two thousand dollars and Me is like, yeah, I know, that's why
I want it. He is a shark. The funny part is Me is
like, you're the ding dog and then wants to trade this jacket for my
dumb essay about world peace, which again Bean is not wrong. Nanna's like
I have to hand it in now, and it's just like Hearing is bringing
that jack and tomorrow idiot. Yeah, and so when they I mean,
this will be me as unraveling though. Yeah. Well, so Anna shows
up wearing the jacket and like it's I don't know, I don't I'm obviously
not a fashion plate, but I was like, this doesn't look like a
good jacket. It's just like it's very big and bulky. And so Mia
takes the jacket from Anna and like we didn't see Anna and class and she
like we hear everybody, like we go to a slow motion show, like
everyone's like, oh my god, Mia has been pushed off of a balcony.
Anna immediately blames Sophia, and so far we have had no proof,
like this is an idea that she's just kind of floating, right, No,
there has been no proof that Sophio wants to win, you know which
m call it any Like, obviously she entered the Debutante ball competition, so
presumably she wants to win, but there's no proof that she will like win
by any means or is out to get Anna for any reason. Like the
other part is it seems like Anna's chances are not that great. She's unlikable.
She's does a bunch of off putting stuff in front of the judges,
like buying a bunch of toys for children that you know, no one asked
her to and then it's like here, kids take these toys, and so
you know, this kind of comes out, This is created out of whole
cloth for Anna to start talking about, Like when Anna's locker is the face
she's yelling at me about it, and me is like, I don't care,
it could have been anyone. You're mean, and She's like it was
so fiah and Mea is like, there is literally no reason for you to
think that. Nana's like, why aren't you on my side? Do you
remember? Do you remember that up Happy Deaf Day where like Tree and her
paramore whose name I forget, were coming up a list of possible suspects,
Like she's listing like a dozen different people. That is basically Anna like like
it could have been anyone. A lot of people think you're the B word,
And have we gotten to the point where they somebody spray painted drop out
like on her garage? First Yeah, okay, I mean that's that's barely
a scene. The parents are just like whatever, we're gonna leave you go
like jet skiing or whatever. I guess I met water skiing, but or
like whatever, I really forget about actual jet skis. My brain is like
that's a different things, like no, it's called the jet ski You're like,
or is it water skiing? Panic? Panic, start yoshing. But
so, yeah, I want to talk about that scene where she buys all
the toys. So the the the debutantes are supposed to mentor and talk to
little girls. So I guess who want to be debutants themselves? Oh no,
I guess are there? Uh? They call them less fortunate, but
they never actually define why they are less fortunate, Not that I need to
know, like a backstory, but it's just sort of strange in that,
you know, Anna's like, shouldn't these kids have everything? And I'm like,
I really, I don't have any context for why these children are here
or why this event is happening at all. Yeah, So Sophia like jumps
into this. She's like talking to the kids. She's having a good time.
All the other debutantes are having a good time. Anna is grumpily on
her phone and she calls brooding. She calls a toy store, says like
put this on my daddy's account, Like why does your dad have an account
at the toy store? That is strange her just call it so we'll see
us a couple instances where Anna is interacting with grown men very confidently, throwing
around her dad's name and when the because later she'll go to a lawyer to
tell the lawyer that is he a lawyer or a private detective? I think
he's a private eye. Okay, he'll go. She'll go to this private
eye and tell him that, uh, another woman is attempting to murder her,
and he takes her completely seriously. And I feel like this is a
really good case of a fake it till you make it. Uh. So
Anna walks in with supreme confidence, says the wackiest shit, and everyone's like,
yeah, okay, checks out. So here's the thing about that Private
eyes office. I want to talk about that and get to the bonkers flash
tire scene. And you know, he is living like I've seen a fair
amount of TV and movie private eyes, and I the thing is, I
don't know how well a private eye pays. I think that's his office,
Frank, I don't think that's his house. Well, That's what I'm getting
at, is like I've never seen a private detective live in an office that
clean like, So I'm just like, he must be the most successful private
eye in all of North Carolina. Isn't it funny too though that she knows
exactly which private eye to go to. Why would her dad have an affiliation
with this man? I mean a lawyer having affiliations with private eye especially is
that I can understand, because like, if you have like an insurance case,
you need somebody to like follow your opposing party. But if you're representing
an insurance company, you would need to hire private eye to be like are
they really disabled? Are you know, like injured, because like I was
reading about, I was listening to a ask Reddit post about like lawyers,
like what's the case that you won pretty easily? And they hired a private
eye to look into this guy who was saying he fell off his roof while
he was working, and then they showed him like taking off his neck brace
and doing all these fun activities he said he couldn't do. So I don't
have that episode of the Office where Dwight yells at Daryl's sister. Yeah,
so still one of my favorite bits of Dwight detectiving is when he tries to
figure out if Oscar is faking being sick and he's like, I found out
something about Oscar today. He wasn't really sick. Meanwhile, Oscar and his
partner are kissing or something equally romantic. Now they're like holding hands and they're
all sitting on the couch and like Dwight sitting there like a child eating popcorn.
Yeah there, I think, like I was listening to like a commentary
on it, and they're like, like the explanation was that? Dway was
later like what are you guys doing it? Like, I'm gonna watch up.
He's like, oh cool, can I watch them? Like yeah,
sure, whatever. But so Anna brings in four hundred dollars worth of toys.
These are big toys for little kids. Yeah, like there's a there
is a little girl like standing next to a Teddy Bear that's bigger than herself.
Yeah. And then she leaves and somebody has slashed her tires. Just
happens to be driving by, and Anna yelled, it's like plus this by
Anna and Anna Yil's did you do this? Just drives you know, it's
even more crazy than that. So feels like what happened? And then Anna
yells like you don't know. He's like all right, boy, I know,
and it's like Anna read the root. She might have been able to
help you. And this is the other crazy thing is Anna is so rich,
why wouldn't she like, why wouldn't she be like like, hey,
dad, I need somebody to come by and pick up my car. My
tires got slash. I'm gonna get an uber home and stays She's like I
had to wait for the tow truck. And I'm like why I have to
wait for the tow truck so I don't have us the money spent on ubers,
Like why didn't you, like, you know, just leave, I
mean I kind of the dynamic between Anna and her family is very confusing.
Anna is that level of rich where if she just like ran out of gash,
she'd just leave the car behind me, like, well, I'm trying
to go buy a new one. Well, yeah, you know. So,
so she fully thinks this is Sophia. Yeah, and she's willing to
yell at at anybody present. Yeah. So she uh texts Sophia, and
Sophia like like like oh, she's talking to her dad, and her dad's
like, hey, being supported, being supportive, and she's like, oh,
it looks like they need me for another Q and A. I have
to go back, and he's just like, oh, take the car,
because Sofia is willing to take the bush. And this is what I did
enjoy, where they were actually discussing like the dynamics of this car. So,
but I've had the car all day, don't you need it? He's
like, no, I'm good. Yeah. That felt like a very real
conversation, bitter bit unnecessary, but sometimes conversations in life are unnecessary. Then
I just think that's a sign of somewhat good writing, is when you just
show the minor points in a life of yeah, you know. So,
Sofia goes back. Anna has set up like a villain entrance, like or
like her own villain meeting. So Sophia comes back, Anna's sitting behind this
giant table, just like we need to discuss things. Sofia would then like
even stranger than that, Anna has made like pretended that she was the judges
wanting to have a conversation with Sophia. I presumably gave Sophia her address and
had Sophia travel to her house. Well I don't think that's her house.
I think it's a debutante place because like so Anna leaves it later that's where
she Neil gets run over. How does she Oh, why is she?
Okay? This is so confusing? How did she get there in the first
place. I'm as soon as she took another uber or something, they're like,
where are you? Where have you been all day? She's like,
my tires got slashed. Okay, I gotta go. I gotta scheme cooking.
I have a scheme in the works. And they're like, we have
to go get massages done by Octopi and so then, because I was wondering,
I was like, why this is the problem with having too many palacial
homes in a movie. Is I need something to demarcate what is the debutane
house and what is their palacial home? Because I just assumed she was wandering
around in front of her own house. No, she almost got run down
by a car, kind of like the car is so far away from her
and she throws herself in a ditch. And it's so funny because she's seen
Anna's car. She knows what Anna's car looks like, but then decides that
this car is also Anna. And everyone's like, bro, you got a
chill and she's like, Nana. It's so what's even more confusing in this
scene, It's like Sophia is being Sophia is doing what you should do if
you are, like to talk to the police or something where she's just giving
a little information as she needs to answer the question. And at the end,
like and SOA's like, how much hurdling Towards the end of this movie?
Somehow there's still so much movie left. There's still little plot left,
but there's still a fair amount of movie left. Well, I mean,
because it goes like this, right like animes a now landish declaration. Everyone
tells her that's kind of nuts. Anna doubles down rints and repeat until we
get to the d because so she goes to the Private Eyes office. He
tells her, you have a lot of enemies for a teenager. She parked
in the wrong place and there's this random guy who is trying to tell her
you got toad because you parked in a space you shouldn't have. But she
runs this man with so little self awareness. Yes, she runs away from
him and he he's like, hey, I'm just trying to let you know
your car got todd And it is creepy because he just he's like, I'll
stay with you. Do you want to ride? And she's like no,
no, no, and he I mean, she doesn't say no, she
accepts him staying there with her. Well, she doesn't like she says no
to the ride, but then doesn't really respond to the him staying there.
So I, as the viewer, I am like, is this guy bad
news? I don't know. So then well he chases her down three flights
of stairs in a parking garage. I'm like, dude, und if a
woman ran away from me, I just feel bad for of the day.
I would not pursue her. Yeah, it's like that, what do you
call it? Yes, there is, like I thought she heard the trade
through her feet. Like, so then she like continues this sort of reign
of just making everyone oh sorry, I forgot. She confronts Mia in the
hospital and it says, you have to call the police. So she ends
up in the hospital with a little scrape after the supposed attempted running down with
the car. She tells Mia, you need to call the police and tell
them that Sophia is the one who pushed you, and Mia responds, I
don't know that she did. I kind of think it was you. And
Anna's like, no way and storms out and then goes back to school and
and the private eye tells Anna Oh that all of the rumors being spread about
you online they're coming from the hospital WiFi. That's never a resolved. We
don't know if miss Dennison went and hung out at the hospital or me it
was just sick of Anna being a brat and it was her. We don't
know. So then this movie is the complete destruction of two young women.
It really is, because then Miss Dennison shows up at Sophia's house and it's
like, I brought you a dress. It's my dress from when I didn't
win, and I got some alterations made, and Sophia's dad's like, hey,
maybe pump the brakes. This is a lot, you know, like
Sophia's kind of just getting back to herself after everything that happened with her mom,
and Miss Dennison's like, yeah, get out of my way. I
don't care. And so then it's finally the Debutant Fall, the much Valleyhood,
much discussed Debutant Fall. There are minutes left in this movie. Yes,
the dads are going to be escorting the debutantes. Uh, Sophia's dad
is there, Anna's dad is there, MEA's dad is not there because me
is still in the hostel, so Miss Dennison is there. We get a
getting ready compilation where we do not see Miss Dennison's face, but is obviously
her with a gun because everybody is wearing tacky white elbow length gun guns gloves.
And the scene ends montage ads with someone reaching into a satin lined box
with a little pistol in it, which is very dramatic and very nutty,
and I appreciate that we don't get a lot of lifetime antagonists with guns.
No, it's they're usually they're bludgeoners. They're Uh, what's that thing called?
Is it defenestration when someone falls out of a window. I don't think
it's defenestration, but googling it the action of throwing someone out of a window,
boom, suck it. It's a phrase that hargins back to sixteen eighteen.
So, uh, we have our finger on the polls of sixteen eighteen.
Oh. It also is the action of dismissing someone from a position of
power or authority, which is where it was first used in Prague. The
first governmental defenestration occurred in fourteen nineteen, the second and fourteen eighty three,
and the third and sixteen eighteen, I guess like overthrowing, throwing someone out
of a window, whatever. So immediately Miss Tennison is called out by an
unfore woman we have not seen before or she is apparently the EMC of the
debutant ball as well as the head of it, and she is really ramping
up the uh suspense by saying, for the first time ever, the judges
are gridlocked on who is gonna win, and the only way they can decide
is seeing daughters walk with fathers down a runway. And she also has to
tell uh, Sophia's dad, Hey, your daughter's suspicious as fuck. We
figure she sus because someone paid the pageant photographer, which really makes you wonder,
like, how is the pageant being run if the photographer's like, yeah,
yeah, I also do the web authoring slide me a little bit extra,
like the judges that easily sweethe we saw a picture on the website.
I don't know, we had no choice. It had to be her,
had to be Sophia, and didn't even win it for her. And then
also somehow they got a hold of Sophia's college application that was written by Miss
Dennison, where it mentions how she will pay for college, which is strange.
So immediately Sophia's Dead's like, excuse me, Miss Denison, this is
like real weird. Why did you do this? And Miss Dennison's like,
I'm so busy. She literally says, I'm too busy for this, walks
it into a foyer that's empty, bludgeons him of heavy objects. Yes,
so yeuse. Later we will see another heavy object obtained in this foyer,
so she immediately takes Anna hostage. We hear some ad rs. Anna says,
my dress because part of the tool has gotten ripped off and stuck in
the door. Also, we get the reveal that Kenny was the one who
in the Ultimate Active betrayal called in Anna's hard to get towed. After a
little bit of lights talking yes and this is not super important, Kenny will
be shot shortly after this. Also, Anna Park's like it's just going back
to the I know we're like talking about versus that moment. Anna Park's in
front of the toeway zone sign and the camera's like do you see it?
Do you see it? So like really, yeah, Kenny's being a jerk,
but this one's on Anna. Yeah anyway, so yeah, so Mss
Dennison is talking about how because Anna's mom paid off the judges. So the
Dennison women had won every year, every generation up until Miss Dennison, and
it's like I paid them off, like your mother paid them off, and
like that dad brought the judges to his private country club. Apparently they weren't
that hard to win over. I don't know what I mean. The judges
this year see a picture on a website and they're like, what that's interest
it? So like the pageant is judged by ding dongs. We're now having
zoom issues, so we're just gonna wrap up this movie. Kenny comes out
as I'm here to save you. Mealy gets shot up, like it's like,
what, you guys had a fight. You shot Kenny and then you
shot yourself from four feet away in your gut. I don't know how that
works. It doesn't matter. And so Sophia goes to find her daughter,
or goes to find her dad because she's just like, why is my dad
not here? She's like, my dad's been knocked out and nobody decided to
pick him up. Anna's mom, I mean, it's Anna's mom did check
in with him, he said, I'm okay, and then Anna's Mom's like,
okay, cool, I gotta go find my daughter. Yeah, So
Anna's mom and Anna fight off MS Dennison. Like we then cut to like,
you know, Anna, ye, Kenny's dead. Turns out Kenny's not
dead. Kenny's gonna make it. Don't worry about Kenny. Yeah, And
basically there's just like it's over, and I really hope there's a sequel.
Yes, and I just okay, So I just want to just go over
real quick before we close out how fucked over both Anna and Sofia are.
Sophia is out a lot of time and money that she's spent on these dresses.
She is not going to win that scholarship. She now also has medical
bills that she has to pay for her father, who that has suffered a
brain head injury for real concussion. Yeah, so you know, hey,
I hope we maybe we can sell this giant house and like moved to a
smaller place. Would sense the downsize. Anna found out that all of her
friends hate her. Yes, she sorry said that's true. Yeah. She
found out that her her boyfriend got shot. She didn't find that out,
she saw it. Her boyfriend. She somehow discovered that her boyfriend got shot,
she was nearly killed and yeah, so everybody, and she didn't also
win Belle of the Ball. Nicole won. Nicole seemed very nice because she
was constantly defending Sophia and Anna being like, Anna, you're acting like a
nut. Sophia's really so Cyphia's really nice. Nichole said that with her whole
heart. So yeah, so good for Nicole Bell the Ball. Watched this
movie. It's so bonkers. It's yeah, it's very fun. What are
we doing? You can actually and this into a like fun like I don't
want to say drinking game, because drinking games are, but like eat eat
a piece of candy every time the eighty R gets bad and you'll feel really
good. My god, they'll throw off Frank. It's the same as the
drinking like, yeah, but for eating M and m's to do with shops.
Next week, we're doing a suzy pick for Deadly December. It's a
wonderful knife. Yeah, awesome. This was the whole reason we started doing
Deudley December. So it's like we should do this movie. It's like,
that's not we gonna fit into o Disney December theme because we're going to do
like live action princess movies, and so we're just gonna do April, uh,
the April Cinderella Month. I just to force I am going to show
or to Okay, someone photo shopped Michael My into the It's a Wonderful Life
DVD cover. Also, I want to I'm really looking for a picture of
Justin Long in all of the like makeup, because it's so good. While
you while you find those for me to react to, I want to talk
about how It's a Wonderful Life is was not actually that popular when it first
came out. Okay, wait, now keep my yellow fresh ast. So
when It's a Wonderful Life came out, it was a box office kind of
flop and they're just like, okay, well whatever. But this is when
TV started having, like you know, there were different channels and there was
all this programming that needed to be filled, and they're like, well,
well we need a Christmas movie, and we like, the licensing for It's
Wonderful Life is actually very cheap because nobody liked this movie. So they just
started showing it a whole lot at Christmas and people start watching it and being
like, what is this I mean, this is a big theme and it's
a wonderful knife. Okay, I'm really into this. Yeah, it's a
strange movie. I'm really glad we're having a Justin Long renaissance. Oh what
ad Justin Long renaissance? Frank, you disappeared again? Hello, Hello,
Hello, deministration demonstration. I'm really glad we're enjoying a just I nearly said,
I'm really glad we're enjoying a defenestration. I'm really glad we're enjoying Justin
Long renaissance. A definistration. Okay, we need to close this out this
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