WEBVTT 1 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:30.000 We' re here this Tuesday nineteen. I swore yesterday that it was nineteen 2 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:34.079 and that it was Tuesday, that is, I was a little out of 3 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.439 date yesterday. But welcome, but Creuse is Tuesday nineteen, welcome, Dr 4 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:40.640 Amel Hello. How about today, yes, it' s Tuesday nineteen, 5 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:45.240 very good night, a pleasure to be together again. Welcome to Efra Babe, 6 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:50.359 girls, how you are, how nice to see us on this fresh 7 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:53.960 Tuesday, what a like manchist. So yeah, hey here, yeah, 8 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:56.000 it' s already been clouded, that' s it here. You' 9 00:00:56.039 --> 00:01:00.399 re fresh where I am, but I understand you' re at it. 10 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.359 But yes, here it' s fresh hear and I' ve already been 11 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:06.239 told no more. You rise to ask for the voice. So I' 12 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:11.599 m going to use at least my marker before while I get a highlightable plume. 13 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:18.319 This head I have remarkable feathers. Wow, or not. They don 14 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:23.239 ' t ask for your lupis wand. Oh, I don' t have 15 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.319 a single thousand years of magic girls, because I' m not bringing them. 16 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.159 I' ll tell you what to do with my magic wands later that 17 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.439 Dr Mel doesn' t listen because they say she doesn' t send me 18 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.640 and I' m not leaving. My domininis are playing. I have as 19 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.480 I taught them, as I taught those who have seen the program that is 20 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:44.200 for members on the full moon that we have pending the next program for members. 21 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:48.560 I taught my magic wands that day. I have three, and then 22 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:53.640 two of them I put down my pillow every night and then the dream I 23 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:59.760 dream some thing, then I forget, but dream I hear but welcome, 24 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:04.359 thank you for joining us today we have. Let' s talk about three 25 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.960 topics today. Let' s talk about the premiere of quait n the Set, 26 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:15.439 which is this documentary that premiered research record as a complaint about what was 27 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:23.159 happening on this channel Nickelodeon, especially with respect to producer Robert Schnyder and what 28 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.479 happened there and the answer there. We' re also going to talk about 29 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:29.159 Gloria Trevi' s lawsuit against Chumbel Torres. It' s not the first 30 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.319 time. Looks like he doesn' t like it there at all. And 31 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.159 the other subject will be a little bit, the Academy. Let' s 32 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:38.960 talk about the Academy, because once again the Academy comes a very good Aztec 33 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:43.240 television project, which was a success in some broadcasts in others. Not so 34 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:47.080 much, I once to Magda Rodriguez, that in peace. At ease when 35 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:52.159 he went to a booth where I worked, I proposed to him at that 36 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:53.919 time and why not. It was 2, 000 and I said why don 37 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:57.919 ' t you do the End of the World Academy. And then let him 38 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.039 see if he wins and whoever wins be the Antichrist. And he didn' 39 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:01.759 t think it was a good idea. He told me no, if that 40 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:07.759 format the two of you didn' t want it. I don' t 41 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.319 remember it was at the maybe two thousand two two. Then it was the 42 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.199 two thousand and twelve that was going to end the world. That' s 43 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:16.000 when I do have it They were exactly how they were then. Me. 44 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.439 The truth is that it was a very good idea, because if the world 45 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:23.400 had ended, it would indeed have been a success. Imagine, but good. 46 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:29.240 We can always do it, there are always conspiracy theories. You have 47 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.400 to do it. Look, we have to do it here on the channel, 48 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:36.360 the reality of the end of going, because we' re going to 49 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:40.479 do it look at it, which is sad now that it already appeared that 50 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:40.680 they saw the most lupic, is Andale who of no more and nothing. 51 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:44.919 We' re not going to participate Hey, you' re one of them. 52 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:49.439 Yeah, of course not. No. Don' t listen today Give 53 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:54.639 us your likes and before we start, give us likes, give us whatever 54 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:58.520 you want likes. There' s the super chat open for everyone who wants 55 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:02.000 to make donations to the channel, but we could do something, something interesting. 56 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:10.960 We' re gonna do it here on the channel. It' s 57 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.439 probably going so let' s think about the Academy. What they knew about 58 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:17.560 the Academy, because since they began to announce it, no yes, notice 59 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:27.240 that good selling had as guest Mr Héctor Martínez, who was director of the 60 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:31.959 first generation of the Academy and of other two generations, alternating with other directors 61 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.759 that I have been reviewing, because they are very interesting. Now, if 62 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:40.120 you want, I' ll tell you a little bit about them, but 63 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:43.600 in itself, the note is that they' re already going to start auditioning. 64 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.199 He says that out there, from April, to mid- April, 65 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:51.240 that they are going to do massive auditions, as they have always done in 66 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:57.759 different parts of the country and that well, that invites everyone and that they 67 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.399 are not afraid that they will be treated. Super well, it' s 68 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:05.240 a project. And now, obviously, they make their comments there that how 69 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:10.879 beautiful the Academy is. Unlike other contests and I was struck powerfully that Patticho 70 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:15.759 pol makes a comment of no and what was always very well that psychologist what 71 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:20.920 was called Litzi or what. I don' t know what and then he 72 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.720 already said ah yes the name of the psychologist they had. I don' 73 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:28.839 t know if they had it in all generations, but I remember very well 74 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.759 that the first one did. No, and then he said that because that 75 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.800 was very important, because it helped them a lot and they took care of 76 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:41.319 them, because they took great care of the students and that that' s 77 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:43.160 why the project was so complete and redounded, because they take care of them 78 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.519 and treat them well. I couldn' t help but remember what I just 79 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:48.639 told you. Recently, when we were talking about Eduardo Capetillo, who at 80 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:54.759 the time was also director of the Hernia and because they did not treat very 81 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:58.240 well. Sometimes some students, like the student who remembered the name that humiliated 82 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:05.079 her in one of the concepts. So what was Hyan' s name called 83 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:11.480 a Cuban girl. It is not true to a Cuban woman, then much 84 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:14.240 as much as they had a psychologist, because the poor one. I think 85 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:18.439 that impact, imagine in front of millions of people who were watching the academy. 86 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:23.800 I think it must have been very serious for her. But well I 87 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:27.800 was pondering that how nice that psychologist, how nice the great teachers, but 88 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:32.199 they didn' t say a woe. Héctor Martínez also emphasized that everyone is 89 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:38.160 doing well that even if they are not winners and even if they do not 90 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:42.759 do the big races, after all, that is something that changes their lives. 91 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:50.120 And then they named triumphants of the academy, because obviously they spoke of 92 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:56.240 Carlos Rivera, exactly Carlos Rivera spoke of Emidia. They didn' t talk 93 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:59.360 about Lloridia. And then, like, I just happened to hear you say. 94 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:03.079 And that' s why gratitude is very important, because you should never 95 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:06.720 forget what the house is, where you came from and the one that gave 96 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:11.160 you the opportunity to shine And I said ay this sounds a little indirect too, 97 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.680 because there are some who already walk in other places and not precisely on 98 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.079 Aztec television. What they didn' t say is who' s going to 99 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:23.720 drive, who' s going to be the members of the screaming panel they 100 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.040 have, or who' s going to be nothing more than the director, 101 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:28.600 who was present. So, then, but they' re already starting to 102 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:31.000 give you what to talk about You hear because I had heard a rumor. 103 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.240 If anyone in the audience has heard any rumors here, welcome, welcome, 104 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:41.360 Facebook, YouTube, Spreaker, Spotify, iTunes, Amazon, I' m 105 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:45.759 going to ask you, I' m going to post all the links about 106 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:49.959 the program where you can find us on each of the platforms and ples share 107 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:53.639 us for this program and this project to grow. But according to me I 108 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:58.639 had heard that I could return as driver Ingrid Coronado, that I would not 109 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.439 be bad at all and Ingry is very good driver this very identified with people. 110 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.720 Now the jurors, I remember they were the last ones I remember Horacio 111 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:11.000 Villalobos. But since then he went to Telemundo and then he was as we 112 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:15.279 already know, we have to because who knows they already come and go. 113 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.680 It' s not everywhere, because Lolita Cortes is there, she' s 114 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.480 not there, then she comes back. Lolita Cortes was also director in some, 115 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.959 but then returned from criticism. I think my next career is the wolf 116 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.120 academy, because I' m referring to the evidence that, I mean, 117 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:37.279 you' re at the academy. That' s where the academy comes in 118 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.720 and that' s not it. And so give it or you do, 119 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:46.200 all of you bring it. So it' s not real, so I 120 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.000 don' t think that Alita Cortés came back because I think that from one 121 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.919 to five, the directors of the academy do have some freedom to be directors 122 00:08:54.960 --> 00:09:00.399 of the institution. But once she came in mayra Rodriguez and it was the 123 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.919 format in a way that was good, because she did what she thought prudent. 124 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.399 But yes, the format was already totally undone because it was already a 125 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.720 circus, it was no longer the academy that we saw at the beginning with 126 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.480 that discipline, that the kids had, that they did humiliate them and that 127 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.960 lic and Rodríguez, as a psychologist, left much to be ventilating the problems 128 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.200 even of those or those that it is of already going, because I remember 129 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:24.279 that she wanted to be like the protagonist of the head. If not she 130 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.039 wanted to make time for the winner. I remember. I' ll tell 131 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.519 you something short. I don' t even know her. I met her 132 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.799 once when she went to a booth when I worked at Radioformula with Flor Rubio. 133 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:35.879 She was sent to an interview and was with us in the cabin. 134 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.080 Must have been at least two blocks, which means half an hour. From 135 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:46.639 there I was going to the Table of Marta Figueroa and she happened to coincide 136 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:50.399 there because I was also going to the Table, but at the Table she 137 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:56.840 no longer greeted me, she no longer met me the same day leaving there 138 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:58.000 which happened to me the same thing happened to me. They know who happened 139 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:03.600 to me with Polopolo. But on the contrary, when I came to Imagen 140 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:05.720 and met Polopolo, he joked me. He told me that well, he 141 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.320 follows me, or why it is normal, because it is logical or not 142 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:15.639 simple and normal man. She was telling me that you came chasing me, 143 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.000 because I had just been radio formula and we met there in Imagen, but 144 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:24.960 with her don' t notice her there on the way from Avenida Universidad to 145 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.399 Poblanco already her memory is gone. It is that, because more than you 146 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:35.399 know how Ephraim says, what directions would be given to them or which line 147 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.399 would be marked. But besides, she did, she liked, like, 148 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:45.279 being very much ahead of her. I was at the concerts all the time 149 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:50.200 and all the time, and I don' t know the truth what their 150 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:52.679 real function was. There because what we saw on the screen, because it 151 00:10:54.000 --> 00:11:01.360 had not much to do with a true therapeutic accompaniment in a circumstance of so 152 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:03.600 much pressure and so much stress. I don' t know. What we 153 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.600 saw, I don' t think it would be around, but yes, 154 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:09.519 since you' ve taken Ephraim. But, Ahorita, he' s coming 155 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.000 back. Right now, I thanked you then, because they did talk about 156 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.559 it and then they talked about the gratitude to have to the house, that 157 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.519 threw you and that made you, that gave you a place and yes remembering 158 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.120 I already got a little bit to see because I did like it very much. 159 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.120 The first generation of the Academy we are talking about many years ago and 160 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:33.759 it was something very new here in Mexico and that hit them that barbarous yes, 161 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:37.559 it involved one a lot emotionally with the participants, their stories, which 162 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:43.159 at first showed them quite measurably. I would say from time to time yes, 163 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.759 using this resource to make you cry and to ra the exploitation of the 164 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:52.279 morbid to the most that was given. But it got worse. It was 165 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.039 getting worse and worse, more and more. And I think that' s 166 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:58.519 possibly what he did was I charge you in a circus and I do, 167 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:01.320 that part where you have to be grateful. Of course and you have to 168 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.639 remember the clear origin and know where I saw everything from. I totally agree 169 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.519 with that. But, for example, the students of the Academy, at 170 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:15.080 least those of the first and some subsequent generations, had a ten- year 171 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.799 contract with Aztec television, where they could do nothing and then they were forced 172 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.759 to act, without knowing, to act as soap operas. It was the 173 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.360 time that soap operas were still being made and it was clear that you televised 174 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.960 that it was forming a cast, of course. But then it happened that 175 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:33.240 there was no work for everyone because it was seventy seventy, you already get 176 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.679 seventy that you also have hold of them because they can' t do anything, 177 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.039 they can' t go looking for work elsewhere, they can' t 178 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:45.320 go because you already have them. So there' s gratitude, but it 179 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:46.759 was also like having them with a shackle so you wouldn' t fly. 180 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:52.480 Carlos Rivera took a long time to get out and was very grateful. Carlos 181 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:56.720 Rivera has been very grateful, but what was my friend and I stopped seeing 182 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.919 him and already a lot of extins talk about me. If bel tells him 183 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:05.039 to send him, hello, but he was my friend. One day you 184 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.919 ' re going to talk about so many anecdotes that I' m good at. 185 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.960 Not like this. Book, uh, that' s on a show 186 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.639 for him, on a show for me,' cause right now the grimp 187 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:22.080 almost missed. I think he' s looking at Patricio. Rafael says the 188 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:26.919 reality shows formula is twenty percent. The 80 percent reality show looks exactly Patrick, 189 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.080 but you know what reality has that what and what it is I' 190 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:37.120 m going to say is very sad, very sad. He in the reality, 191 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:43.399 like the voice, like the academy, like all the real important ones 192 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.759 are the famous, the contestant is like a guinea pig that if it hits, 193 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.440 for it is gain, but if not, nothing will happen, because 194 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:52.960 what I want are judges that stand out, make scandal, that are very 195 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.799 famous, it is more or less so And that' s what realitis is 196 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:05.639 about. But the participant itself is the format, in the survivors, in 197 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:11.279 everything it is not the person, it is the format. And that' 198 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.080 s the sad part, because they dehumanize quite a bit. Friar' s 199 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:20.159 back, look at you, the light of the drivers you were saying if 200 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:24.639 you' ve talked about several ok looks like they' ve said it' 201 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.240 s someone with c So that' s how people started to say, ah 202 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.440 is crowned, ingl crowned. But then they talked you go to Claudio, 203 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:35.639 then they talked about Annet Kuguru. Here is Teresa telling us that there is 204 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:39.399 also talk of Marco Antonio Regil, María Inés, Cristal Silva, Cintia Rodríguez, 205 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:43.039 that is, if there are several rumors and then they are also saying 206 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:50.799 that Ingrid is going around in group image. Then you know there' s 207 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.720 one thing that' s given a lot in this industry. When a famous 208 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.559 person wants to push, he goes and walks on another television station so that 209 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.399 his other television station will certainly be. That' s what he does. 210 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:07.039 It' s an exact strategy. Ephraim, Ephraim and Jagun that I tell 211 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.679 you one thing, I do believe that until I owe it to Marines and 212 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:16.480 tell them. As an academician, I think Marine would be the one to 213 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.080 do it the time passed by Yair, who gives no good or half a 214 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.919 sentence, that is all bad in the twenty- year chain, that was 215 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:24.759 a great disaster, that is between Yair. There they look like godmother. 216 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.759 Everything was going really bad and it all collapsed. Oh, but there was 217 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:31.720 Alexander Axe. Like Dialexander, he' s a guy. I don' 218 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.080 t know if you give him a list, like when I say Fernando Columbia 219 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:41.559 can do whatever he wants. I know Axa Alexander Hacha is an educated person. 220 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:43.960 Sima, I' m going to talk to you about something. It 221 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.720 ' s already the last secret, because the next one is for members. 222 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:52.480 Yes, I can invite them one day They invited me to that academy where 223 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.480 Alexander Acha was. I wasn' t invited to see I was driving you 224 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.559 to Adal Ramón. It' s just, for everything very kind. We 225 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:58.240 ' re not friends, we don' t know each other, but he 226 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.799 was very kind. And other things, I was directing her to Di Oyu 227 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:06.679 Veeres, who is charming and Cintia Rodríguez, who I like very well, 228 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:11.919 who always very affectionate and good. So we were outside, outside the forum, 229 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.919 we were some people talking, we were like three or four people talking 230 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.159 to the person who had invited me. And then the judges or the jurors 231 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.879 come down. I don' t know where from. Actually, I have 232 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:26.039 no idea, but they go down a little ladder and come out the first 233 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.480 one you go out. Alexander Hacha approaches where we are. He greets me 234 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:33.960 very kind, very kind hello good afternoon I am already introduced at the Oye 235 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.159 a lot of taste. I wish, hey, how nice your chamara. 236 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.360 Very kind and the next one is Horacio Villalobos. So now we do, 237 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.639 or we' re going to go near where we are and say hello to 238 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.960 the other people and me. Not like this. This and poor Alexander Hacha 239 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.600 felt like I was telling him. No, don' t worry. He 240 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:53.159 ' s always been a pain in the ass with me. No you, 241 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.120 no you, because this person' s rudeness I' ve known them all 242 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:03.120 my life. But I mean, Alexa Alejandro, this Alexander Hacha, he 243 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:07.279 was kind of not used to these flimsy things of a person who did a 244 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:07.880 rude thing of that size. But I said no, no, no, 245 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:14.279 don' t even hurry This is this important person. I miss you exactly, 246 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.880 exactly. But there' s a highly educated person, well, that 247 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:22.680 ' s what academy is. Yes, in addition, he is educated as 248 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.519 a person and is educated musically speaking also for that he could be, despite 249 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.720 being young he could be a good director also in the academy, because he 250 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:34.000 does have a huge musical education and then, and besides he is handsome, 251 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.319 he is good. In addition, they may or may not like it and 252 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.119 so on, but that it is musically educated. Of course he' s 253 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:45.799 been educated musically. Of course he' s a person who' s been 254 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.039 there He hears and we' re going with this now' s lawsuit. 255 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.880 Gloria Trevi, Gloria chev I think she already liked the lawsuits, because she 256 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:56.240 already has one hundred and sixteen of those she put against her, but she 257 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:02.880 already has to collect them like your records. I think he' s stopped 258 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:04.400 a lot of files there in his house and said," Oh, what 259 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:07.359 a father" Today I' m going to take out this ay my ma 260 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.160 chumel Torres, which I had sued for being bad at bothering me all the 261 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:14.960 time, because chumel did. He made a very heavy joke when he said 262 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.039 that I' m not going to repeat that I don' t want to, 263 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:19.880 that I' m not going to be, I' m not going 264 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:26.440 to be. But well, and then good because after this joke by Chumbeli 265 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:33.400 and Gloria has lawsuits against her, one that put this group of women that 266 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.240 I think are headed, seems to me by Aline Hernández. But then there 267 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.880 ' s another lawsuit they filed later and then she' s supposed to have 268 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.920 sued her against defendant on the other hand, and she' s also sued 269 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.359 for Aztec television. When this count was made of the ten years of the 270 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.599 Gloria Trevi case of trevia andrade that I don' t understand why you televised 271 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:56.400 caps there you go. And that has already generated this enormous demand that has 272 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.240 been going on for many years now. And now it turns out she' 273 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.799 s going to sue Chumbel Torres and why is she going to sue him? 274 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:11.440 Well, he' s already sued him and he' s already won this 275 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.519 first lawsuit, which was because they' re two lawsuits, one for moral 276 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:19.920 damage, which is because of the joke you said we' re not going 277 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:26.640 to repeat and because it' s a strong joke, and also because he 278 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:27.440 used a song from her and stopped her. Then, having no permits, 279 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:33.880 no rights or anything, she demands it for plagiarism, as well as not. 280 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.240 So that' s the lawsuit that already, apparently has won Gloria Trevi 281 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:42.400 and that will have to pay her about 500, 000 pesos of fine or 282 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:48.519 damage. I don' t know what the truth is, but that' 283 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:52.160 s what you' ve been assigned to pay because you did lose that lawsuit. 284 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.160 But Chumel hasn' t even said this mouth is mine. Nothing has 285 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:00.240 been said at all. The news just came out that this lawsuit was already 286 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:04.519 won by Gloria Trevi in relation to the song and that the other claim for 287 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:11.200 moral damage is still pending or is continuing. Or so in that goes and 288 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:15.000 then I do think Gloria Trevi, as if she liked it. I think 289 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.720 she must have. I think there are two very important things here. One, 290 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:25.839 who accompanies him, who advises him, who is next to him, 291 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:30.039 because I believe she is still an easy person to manipulate. I don' 292 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:34.599 t know what you think, but it gives me that feeling that you call 293 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:37.519 continues not, because besides, it is very difficult that it is otherwise. 294 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:42.240 If she all of her youth and even part of her adolescence, lived under 295 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:48.480 someone' s yoke it is very complicated that she is suddenly totally independent, 296 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.279 especially if she has not had a treatment, as we have talked about here 297 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:57.960 repeatedly. Then stop leaning on a man who is a pervert and now leans 298 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:02.599 on another one with whom he has formed a family that she says she feels 299 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:07.039 very happy and dear, but who must in some way advise her and say 300 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:11.200 for now we do have to sue, we have to do it and then 301 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:15.039 look for the best, because if she is going to have expenses for the 302 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:21.200 demands she is receiving against her, because maybe they also hope to get an 303 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:22.839 economic benefit to pay the demands she has on her. Don' t or 304 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:27.359 notice that we did the program in broken souls can go look for Sergio Andrade 305 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.640 ' s and generate this whole series of manipulators, because that' s it. 306 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:34.519 Getting out of the yoke of a manipulator is very difficult, because until 307 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.480 you stop being a vulnerable person, and that would have to be assessed. 308 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.440 If you let yourself be a vulnerable person, because it' s like people 309 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:45.319 who stop drinking, but then they start smoking, but they quit smoking and 310 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:49.079 then they start exercising and then they go from one dependency to another they don 311 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:52.599 ' t. But so with people. Maybe you haven' t healed what 312 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.079 that addiction or dependency causes. Well, here I believe it. Yeah, 313 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:02.079 I think Gloria' s giving a highly talented person a ride, and that 314 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:07.200 ' s why she turned into a wonderful attraction, like a little jewel that 315 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:10.640 of course, if you have it in your hands, that' s wonderful. 316 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.519 But I do think it' s already one, this is already like 317 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.319 a swirl between lawsuits and I' m not, I don' t know, 318 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.319 I' m not a judge or anything who might have a bad reason, 319 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:25.920 but they' re already a lawsuit after another when their career should have 320 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:32.359 resurfaced because of their music. And I think so and it didn' t 321 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:33.759 happen I mean, I don' t think they' ve got the Loria 322 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.640 tea I' ve been messing with. So he has what he has for 323 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.920 us, pure soldiers. She' s doing super well in a triumphant, 324 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.400 but well, I don' t know what, what she thinks badly, 325 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:49.160 but I feel Gloria' s watching her sue who she should sue, suing 326 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.799 everyone she doesn' t have to sue. Not everyone who has to fight 327 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.240 is fighting. And instead of starting to fight him, he has to fight 328 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:03.279 many years ago. It' s amazing that Andrades was free, untouchable too 329 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:06.079 much of my country, in which they' re not going to be a 330 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:07.480 civil suit anyway. If he does not step on that country, then nothing 331 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:15.720 will happen, for he remains untouchable. We said that and she herself did 332 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:23.359 not remember when we were ever talking about the series she authorized and dictated about 333 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:30.960 her life. There are times, there are scenes in which she answers that 334 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:36.119 question in a very, very rare way, and all people tell me why 335 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.599 I don' t sue this gentleman when they don' t know that it 336 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:41.440 ' s not that simple, because the years that have passed, I mean, 337 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:47.599 she knows that people would expect from her, they started legal proceedings against 338 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:56.039 the main actor of this whole horrible event of so many years and she mentions 339 00:23:56.039 --> 00:24:00.640 it. But like saying that because it is not so that yes that it 340 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:06.240 says have been so many years, because hasha had also passed many years and 341 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:10.720 of the girls with the many has passed at the same time and they are 342 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.960 suing then. Yeah, you could, yeah, you could. And, 343 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:21.000 well, I don' t know on what basis this issue of not wanting 344 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.720 to denounce who really should denounce is. But, well, right now, 345 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:27.079 it was chumel Torres. And it' s that music is a very protected 346 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:33.160 matter. It is a lot, very protected the issue of music and it 347 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.839 is absolutely legal, because listen I have met people who pirate sculptures, people 348 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:44.079 who the engravings of the indigenous take them by great brands of designers to print 349 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:48.799 them on their designs and pay the indigenous a hundred pesos and steal the garment 350 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.240 and then, in other words, it is a plagiarism. That' s 351 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:59.000 a plagiarism. Anything is unfair. Ephraim here what Mauricio says of Silva. 352 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.119 No, that is if we understand the theme of the demand for the song, 353 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:07.799 in fact we already support it, Gloria Yaga no, but there are 354 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.720 demands that glory done that are already super over, that is to say, 355 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:12.880 I think it is for the song that I think is more logical, because 356 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.759 yes and it is illegitimate, absolutely legitimate. And no no, no more 357 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.079 we talk about hand, no more we talk about music, I insist, 358 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.799 we talk about sculpture, painting, art, crafts, indigenous or non- 359 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:36.960 indigenous, which is very plagiarism in literature. Please, all the theses, 360 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.920 by the way, are a copyright and there is plagiarism there too. And 361 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:42.799 that' s not supposed to be it. And that' s not supposed 362 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.359 to be it. No, yes, I totally agree. Yeah, yeah, 363 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.279 it' s everyone' s talent and it' s not right for 364 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.119 Roben, because it' s Sue' s stealing you from a lot of 365 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:55.519 governors. You don' t see they' re talking, Luis, and 366 00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:56.920 this is going to be wool, which is no right of otology. But 367 00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:03.480 let' s be clear now that this documentary was finally released is called Quyto 368 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:10.640 and the Set, which is the denunciation of some now adults who, as 369 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:18.079 children or adolescents, worked at Nickelodeon and then attributed to the Channel, as 370 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.640 all their adult misfortune. Then one of the most important, Drake Ball, 371 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:27.200 who says to me, abused me too Amanda Vins, says I had a 372 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:32.960 really bad time, a lot of pressure and good. That was the first 373 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.839 chapter and that was yesterday that is in research Discorry. I guess being in 374 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.039 age, too, you saw because that' s where the Ire channel goes. 375 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.119 Well, his name is Max now. But there' s one very 376 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:51.559 important thing. Immediately respond Some of those who were at Nickelodeon say because I 377 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.839 wasn' t there. I, I, I was there, but I 378 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.759 don' t share what they' re denouncing. And, in fact, 379 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:03.039 Robb Snyber interviews him, one of those who then, when he was a 380 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.799 teenager, worked on like dion tells him hey I want to talk to you 381 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.799 rob and get you to clear all this up here because I' m the 382 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:12.559 one who' s accusing you. I didn' t live it or see 383 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:21.720 it and Robertshnyder is aware that he made jokes outside the place, he admits 384 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:25.480 he treated the best bad writers. Look here he' s writing down everything 385 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.720 he says and he apologizes and apologizes repeatedly. It' s an interview of 386 00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:37.640 about 20 minutes and he apologizes repeatedly. It says no writer should be uncomfortable. 387 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.359 I wasn' t supposed to make jokes out of the place. I 388 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.799 apologize for my past behavior. Ask them to massac my feet. It was 389 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:51.039 wrong. I started to remember my first experiences. I mean, it hurts 390 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:52.440 me. I was a rookie. I didn' t know how to act. 391 00:27:55.079 --> 00:28:00.400 It says what, but then it says when it comes it demands varines 392 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.480 and I did care about it. She wanted to emancipate herself from her parents, 393 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:08.359 like many teenagers who are making money. He wanted to emancipate himself and 394 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:12.519 talks about an emergency call where he sent people, protected her until he knew 395 00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:17.079 she was in a safe place. Like saying well, he almost had to 396 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.319 thank me. And with respect to Drake Ball, you say he did? 397 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:23.240 That he did support him? And in fact, in the interview with this 398 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:27.279 former Nickelodeon, he cuts off his voice and cries and says clearly that I 399 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:33.240 supported him. I mean, I knew when I heard what happened to him. 400 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.880 I knew it because on the cover, if you look at the cover 401 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:42.960 of this show, the cover of the documentary is Rob Shnyder. He' 402 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:48.880 s almost the big culprit for everything. Yes, and that' s why 403 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:55.839 it' s the relevance of this interview that we' ll have to see 404 00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:57.799 what else the documentary presents. But to me it seems a good at least 405 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:03.640 a good answer to have immediately accepted this invitation and face one side, and 406 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:11.200 sometimes you can think that it is someone cynical who gives the face, because 407 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:17.039 there are ways and ways of the face. But I think when someone' 408 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.640 s face and he admits he was wrong. As he does, he begins 409 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:26.799 to do it and also puts in the foreground the other good things he thinks 410 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:27.920 he has done, like the Drake case, in the case of Amanda, 411 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:33.119 who exactly says it, but he also says there are things he had different. 412 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.799 Today would make it different. And I did overdo this thing with massages, 413 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.839 hypersexualization, sometimes kids, too. There are jokes that the joke is 414 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.920 that there shouldn' t have been or the forgiveness that interrupts you, I 415 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.920 said Robbinsnder is so Ider. Thank you, Maru. Thank you very much, 416 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:55.519 Maru, for the correction Danshnighder forgiveness, forgiveness, the so- dunshis 417 00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.880 nya then that he accepts this interview recognize mistakes made, apologizes, is moved, 418 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.359 because to me it seems that he speaks very well of him, because 419 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.839 another exit would have been not ready for any interview. I have nothing to 420 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.880 say. And if there is any legal action, either my lawyers will see 421 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:17.039 or something or what characters like Luis de Yano have done, which is to 422 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.960 minimize their responsibility and say no. But we were all very happy and nothing 423 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:25.079 happened, and that' s very unpleasant. Also then I think that so 424 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:30.880 far, this interview may have a good effect on the image of him, 425 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:36.519 regardless of what else the documentary shows. And I repeat, if there is 426 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.000 a legal action, then I would have to face it by now. I 427 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.240 don' t know, but the interview seemed to me. But besides, 428 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.559 he does apologize. I mean, if he apologizes and forgives, the jokes 429 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.920 were wrong and I know it wasn' t right bye the part, I 430 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.559 mean, take responsibility for it and not for the other, to Ephraim you 431 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:59.279 want to say something. They are mixed feelings to me, because finally, 432 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.640 the chavitos, who are now adults, do not stop being chavitos when this 433 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.720 whole situation happened and they do not stop being victims of it. That' 434 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:12.240 s a reality. But I still think he' s a pig and everything 435 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:18.599 ' s really bad. But I understand that when a person has this purpose 436 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.720 of amendment, he comes out and because also after I saw him I said 437 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.359 yes, not this güey what happens to him. Now he comes, but 438 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.039 the pastor argues they know that also one who wants, for he has already 439 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.759 watered it. I think so, the most laudable thing is to go out 440 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.079 with the face that came out to say yes you did it very badly. 441 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:38.799 I' d make it different. And we also talked so much about Mr 442 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:41.920 Ruidayano that he says he didn' t do anything and that he laughs and 443 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.839 his fan of what he did. And this gentleman bothered me when he came 444 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.359 out, then I said no, why should I bother. People are wrong 445 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.839 and very valid. This doesn' t exempt him from everything he did. 446 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.640 Not of course not, but it' s very commendable that you come out 447 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.680 and say yes I was wrong. I' d make it different. Exactly. 448 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:05.279 Now of course, doctor sorry is that I wanted to answer Jaime Martínez, 449 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.160 who is setting an example that is different, that is, from what 450 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:14.240 you' re telling us, that happened in Argentina and that there was an 451 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:15.759 apology and that doesn' t change in reality. You are absolutely right, 452 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.880 but here we are talking about something different and, on the other hand, 453 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.680 we have good. I, in my personal title, said it seems like 454 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:27.680 a good attitude and, at the same time, if there is a legal 455 00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:34.279 action, this man will have to answer to the authorities for the actions that 456 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.240 they applied in that case, but for the time being, accept an interview, 457 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:44.400 recognize their mistakes, offer an apology, become aware with everything seen and 458 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:45.799 be there, that is to say, face up. It seems to me 459 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:52.079 a good principle if in due course this, I repeat, generates some kind 460 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.519 of legal action, because it responds and I do not say that it is 461 00:32:54.599 --> 00:33:00.400 enough, but it is also very important to separate magnitudes of faults or things. 462 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.599 It' s not the same thing, jaime what you tell us about 463 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.359 Argentina, that you look like the terrifying nandit light to me. With this 464 00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.480 another one that happened here, which is also very serious indisputably. But it 465 00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:14.279 ' s another order. Is it another order? And if there' s 466 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.319 something you can answer to an authority for, then you' ll have to 467 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:21.000 make this clear and see something else that I know you' re going to 468 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:22.640 discuss. It' s all right, because that' s what it' 469 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:28.079 s all about. Just by arguing you can get to a point. But 470 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.839 there' s one thing. Yeah, yeah, the whole set environment, 471 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.240 yeah, everything that was happening in there, yeah, all these heavy jokes 472 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.799 or all the mistakes these people have made. But there were some dads and 473 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.880 they wanted to emancipate the teenagers, because for some reason the dads, hey, 474 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.799 Britne Spears' dads. We' ve seen that parents aren' t 475 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:51.079 so healthy. Then I was mean and the parents here weren' t that 476 00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:55.359 healthy either. The educational question is like a triangle. It' s dads, 477 00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.160 school and kid. Well, here we go to put dads work and 478 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.000 kid not. And to begin with, the matter of work is already doubtful. 479 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.159 No, but there should be close communication here. And parents are also 480 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:13.400 to blame for having endorsed, which is the same thing as the Trevia Andrade 481 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:16.360 case, having left your children under the responsibility of someone who is not their 482 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.800 father and who is not going to take care of them. How you wouldn 483 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.000 ' t take care of yourself. That is one point, that must be 484 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:29.480 taken into account and highlighted. Yeah, I was to blame for darsh Nidier 485 00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:30.719 and I didn' t even hate it if everything you wanted. But there 486 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.519 were the parents, not that they also had to have looked after the children. 487 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.760 On the one hand, Ephraim wanted to say something is that it is 488 00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:42.239 the subject. I mean, when he goes out and says and talks, 489 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.719 this guy was gonna emancipate himself from his mom, he says, I mean, 490 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:47.760 I don' t, but as for her and others and you stay 491 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.599 thinking, okay, he did really bad, but the first means of containment 492 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:58.119 of these kids were his dads and the dads were getting a really happy long, 493 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.519 because that' s what I say, I mean, that' s 494 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:01.320 what I say, I mean, yeah, Nick the Odion is really to 495 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:06.320 blame. They lent the parents and this story of dads who neglect the children, 496 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.360 endorse them, exploit them, live from them, because a very long, 497 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:15.199 very long story, and I remember that it once told us badly that 498 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:20.000 surely she will deslose it better than me. But since they can' t 499 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.280 blame their parents, the kids, or the hate because they' re finally 500 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.480 their parents, they' re going to look for who to take care of 501 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.199 all the courage they bring and all the rage and everything that' s wrong, 502 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.599 because their dads think you already. You were talking about Miley, when 503 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.840 your dad was a little bit small, that your dad did well, he 504 00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.840 ' s making you goofy and something throwing at you that your country or more 505 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.280 is small, because I' ve protected your internal objects, because if you 506 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:45.199 don' t get nothing right now. On the other hand, there is 507 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.239 one issue that must also be highlighted. Says Maru Ramirez, says plice watch 508 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.280 the entire documentary so they can watch the jokes. Yeah, no, if 509 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.360 we' re not exempting you from your guilt, Adamsnder, we' re 510 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.719 not eximating, we' re not being that you did well, but we 511 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.079 understand that maybe, if there had been better supervision, it wouldn' t 512 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.159 have happened. Not that, but that' s what you would' ve 513 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.199 done. I was offering an apology. He' s saying we' re 514 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:12.639 not exempting him from guilt in any way. On the other hand, we 515 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.639 must also see one thing. And this is where I think I do, 516 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.719 that' s where I didn' t just say, that' s where 517 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.679 I guess they might be and not agree and then they do stop to discuss 518 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:29.960 what I wanted to say to them. We' re a generation of me 519 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:35.440 in transition. We are a generation of learning new things, because the generation 520 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:40.159 that is Ephraim as it is down, are generations that are already born with 521 00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:45.880 what we have learned. They agree. So, well, these kids were 522 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:50.599 in charge of people who were in transition. We have said millions of times 523 00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.840 that you will go to see the Don Draper series called Mad Men, which 524 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:58.960 is a clear example of what it was like at the time. Very clear 525 00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:04.480 example of how that time and all the permissive that was all how things were 526 00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.880 handled. Well, that was my parents' time. It is up to 527 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:15.280 me to make a generation of change, of ways to express you politically correct, 528 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:20.880 of ways to act politically correct that that then, this gentleman I am 529 00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.400 not exempting. He reiterated in no way his way of acting, but those 530 00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:30.679 heavy jokes were common. The people were so funny and the others laughed what 531 00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.360 funny? Now we know you don' t? Now we know you don 532 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.679 ' t? Now? The generation of now is having fun watching their companions 533 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.280 beat themselves and even record them. But at the time it was the same, 534 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.840 no more than with jokes. They didn' t hit each other, 535 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.559 but they joked and everyone else laughed and stood by the joker' s side 536 00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:51.559 so he wouldn' t touch them. That was and this, sir, 537 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:57.559 is a part of this transition change, or more of this transition. Yes, 538 00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.719 and the one, as you say and the one allowed, was as 539 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:05.320 well accepted, because it doesn' t mean it was okay, obviously not. 540 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:09.960 That is why we have also insisted that here we are constantly learning and 541 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.519 changing behaviors that we know are not convenient today. But so it happened and 542 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.320 I repeat the personal, if there is a legal action and something for which 543 00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:22.440 this man should respond, how good and that he should do it. But 544 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.440 yes, it seems to me a good principle that I have agreed to give 545 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.800 an interview and acknowledge that I did something wrong, because how many people we 546 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:36.840 see today that either hide like this man Andrade we were talking about, who 547 00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.480 is very quiet and very missing. Or, how many go out cynically and 548 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.480 brazenly to say I didn' t do anything, they were very happy, 549 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:49.480 that is to say it' s already worse extras at least Luisa you' 550 00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.480 re not going to be talking about, no, that' s the truth. 551 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.679 No, then good. That' s the point. It is that, 552 00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.679 as they say, if there is a crime to pursue, then let 553 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.440 him pay it, for he of ellips a crime, though repenting, nothing 554 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.360 happens. But if it' s a good start, it was a person 555 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:12.840 who is repainting this, because if we come from well aggressive, well violent 556 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.400 generations, they didn' t have to know that that sounds wrong. I 557 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.599 mean, nothing really happens. And I do believe that lately we have, 558 00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.079 we have become like a landmark city. No, bad, bad, bad, 559 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.199 bad, bad, bad, bad, and no one ever wanted me 560 00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.079 to tell the people who have the most hard work to do are the ones 561 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.239 who need the most love. No, and sometimes it' s pretty complicated. 562 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.199 In the morning I saw in the interview, I said no and then 563 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.360 I said to see Ephraim relax a chingo breathe. The gentleman had to face 564 00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.719 himself and if he hadn' t turned his face, let' s say 565 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:51.039 clearly, of course, he' s hiding, because he' s hiding, 566 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:52.920 then no gil doesn' t emboss what he did wrong. She' 567 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:58.559 s already done it wrong, and the praiseworthy thing is to go out and 568 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.440 say I watered her in that sense. But to me and to Lupita, 569 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:05.199 it makes a lot of noise that the boys and no one else and to 570 00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:08.760 your parents, that is, there was no one there to take care of 571 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:14.360 their children, no one and I keep thinking about what it says to take 572 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.280 care of your precious objects, that is, your parents and to blame all 573 00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.159 the other golds to one another. But then, who took me there, 574 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.519 who did not complain so that they would not run me, says woe son, 575 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:29.480 no, for give him an ox not because we do not have enough 576 00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.440 Sangin ATMs, but oyer tells you here. If I may, I' 577 00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:37.320 d like to take what Patricio Rafael Arriagaba says. You' re right. 578 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.760 That happens, too. Psychology says it calls rabbit' s foot as a 579 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.800 symbol of some parents changing family life for fame and money and children becoming providers 580 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:51.639 at all levels. That happens absolutely, too. We know if these parents 581 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.920 did that 100% or not, but that happens, too. It happens 582 00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:02.559 that there is work abuse, there are parents of care and it is extremely 583 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:07.159 important and societies permissive also and accomplices. Then, the important thing for a 584 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:14.320 good maturity and for a good mental functioning is integration, being able to integrate 585 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.800 everything that is happening together and nothing more to point out on one side, 586 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:22.719 as Ephraim said, nor anything is that not in all to integrate and integrate 587 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.599 harmoniously. Hey, look at that. Thus is the definition of pedagogy, 588 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.280 the integral and harmonious development of the potentialities of people. That' s what 589 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:34.800 it' s about, but, well, yeah, it' s about 590 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.679 making everything work out fine. But here' s one thing, and I 591 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.519 think in what you said, maybe I' d complete it. It would 592 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:49.440 be one thing for me to be aware of, too, because a lot 593 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.880 of dads think that maybe we' re the best dads in the world. 594 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.280 We have found the perfect formula for education and no one can come to the 595 00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.159 claim. I' m going to tell you an anecdote that they' re 596 00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.760 not famous and that doesn' t matter, but I met a person who 597 00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:07.599 had little children who were a dala, a bullet and then they were like 598 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.760 five or six years old and they destroyed everything. I' d let them 599 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.639 loose one day. So I took it out and less loose and then I 600 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.920 said one day he heard you could tell your kids that they can' t 601 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:19.920 break the plants, that they can' t break my Christmas Eve, that 602 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.519 I can' t. My children would be incapable. My children are very 603 00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.599 polite. And then I told him, well, look at your little girl. 604 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.559 She threw away your well- educated little girl, dropped her wristband and 605 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:31.960 said if she sees anyone, but yes, the issue is the parents' 606 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:37.480 lack of awareness. You agree to know, in this case it was a 607 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.880 bad upbringing to the children, but in general it' s knowing but why 608 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.920 it' s going to be wrong. If my son wants to be an 609 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.880 artist, then of course I take him to the set and he is developing, 610 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:49.000 because he is very happy being and then I leave him there with a 611 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.039 tutor and I am going to do my things, to spend his money. 612 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:55.280 Surely not, but you don' t do you' re not able to 613 00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:59.280 recognize that you too I want to see the parents of all these children who 614 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:04.079 report going out to say yes, I neglected me and that' s why 615 00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.440 I was also a vulnerable victim, or I accepted conditions in which, maybe 616 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.559 they wouldn' t let us be present on the set, because dads weren 617 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.800 ' t allowed, they had to be alone, which should have been questioned 618 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:15.960 by me and why not and why I won' t be able to be 619 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.480 what I know. I mean, there' s a lot that would have 620 00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:23.079 to be found out there, but yes, it' s a shared responsibility 621 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.880 and the first is for the parents. That' s right and that' 622 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.960 s right, but it' s always the same story. Not because we 623 00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:32.440 ' re going back to Rackennel Podcast, where everyone' s the best. 624 00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:37.719 She loved her very much, but they let her get tired in a way 625 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:39.480 she read twenty years. No, but for starters, you let her go 626 00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:44.360 with him. But it was all love. But also, it is a 627 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.480 disguise of the truth, that is at first, in the first part of 628 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.239 Maria rackenell the first season of Mariara that in him she insists and insists that 629 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:54.159 she already married out of love, because love love is not true. If 630 00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.960 at this point in the game you keep saying it was love, you still 631 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:02.280 don' t rehabilitate yourself, you still don' t heal, because you 632 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.639 ' d have to recognize these heights, that that' s called manipulation and 633 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:07.639 that' s why you got married. But it turns out here that the 634 00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:09.960 parents let themselves be manipulated by the mother. She left. Anyway, I 635 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.320 mean, when the parents come out and recognize, and that' s healing. 636 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:17.280 It' s not about you fighting with your parents and that, but, 637 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:22.639 because we' re all human beings, fallible, all questionable, all 638 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:24.920 of us even I' m wrong. It' s not true, it 639 00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.039 ' s not true, you' re going Ephraim. That' s not 640 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.840 like it' s coming to me like I' m bringing my scissors to 641 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.199 prun the family tree. But there are really two very good books. You 642 00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:38.000 ' ll leave your father and your mother and the psychology of Mexican, which 643 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.920 looks like they wrote it yesterday and it' s 30 years ago. And 644 00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:46.000 really, I mean, socially we' re putting dads on a pedestal and 645 00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:51.599 not dads are wrong. The parents said and pasta has already come to light. 646 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.920 The parents left these kids with these losers. It' s reality. 647 00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:58.760 Well, I do. Like this? Is that so? Is it? 648 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.039 I' m sorry about what the Lupita said and what you added. Indeed, 649 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:07.639 the true, true way to heal such serious and painful childhood wounds must 650 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:15.519 necessarily go through the truth, because if it is nested or propped up in 651 00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:22.079 denial, in idealization or in any fantasy that conceals reality, nothing is healed. 652 00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:27.920 And then, through the truth, you can recognize what Lupita said, 653 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:32.599 that parents are human beings and they are wrong to be able to forgive what 654 00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:37.039 has to be forgiven and rebuild love from there, not from denial, from 655 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:43.199 exactly didn' t propose to spread blame without you keeping a slice of the 656 00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:49.719 cake. You also have exactly one but good time to say good- bye 657 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:53.480 guys. Today has been a pleasure. Tomorrow we will continue to talk about 658 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:57.800 other interesting topics. I want to tell you that there is, of course, 659 00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.239 the story of Leonora Carrington open public. She is already here on the 660 00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:07.159 channel Leonora Carrington, a great Mexican nationalised church painter, one of the great 661 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:12.519 painters, sculptors, surrealist writers. Go see women making footprints and for limbs. 662 00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:20.039 That' s open to the public and for members there are these children, 663 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:30.760 the monstrous children of England and Robert Thompson and John ben Ables or Benable 664 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:35.639 as they please, but well they can go to see those who are members. 665 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.360 Tomorrow will be open to all other broken souls in our fourth season of 666 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:46.320 youth, young people in conflict. Thank you so much for having accompanied us, 667 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.000 give us likes, share and tell us what you want. Thank you 668 00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.119 so much, Dr Abel. No, thank you all very much. As 669 00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:59.519 always a pleasure to dialogue and talk and receive your comments, your opinions here 670 00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:02.679 always with everyone peace, please, everything you want, share it, but 671 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.159 do not get angry and if you feel that you will be angry, you 672 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.519 know what to do. Have a pizza and go see Mother Linton and the 673 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:21.159 rest, an exact pizza all right now. Thank you so much on Fa 674 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.119 Daby, thank you very much, Chicastes Tuesday. I don' t know 675 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:31.079 if the pizza thing Tuesday falls, but these pizzas good that. Thank you 676 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.159 so much. Let' s go to history, in my story today. 677 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.920 Thank you all so much, and little hearts to all Let' s go 678 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:42.920 there, there it is. Let' s go, then, let' 679 00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:43.960 s go with our little nucha, pretty musiquita,