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This is Doctor Wendy Walsh and you're
listening to KFI AM six forty the Doctor

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Wendy Walsh Show on demand on the
iHeartRadio app. Welcome did the Doctor Wendy

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Walsh Show on KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

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if you're new to my show.
I have a PhD in clinical psychology.

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I'm a psychology professor at California State
University, Channel Islands. I teach psychology

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of health counseling. I teach developmental
psychology, which is psychology across the life

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span and for all those new students
just entering college life. I also teach

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introduction to psychology. But I have
been obsessed with the science of love for

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oh gosh, decades and decades.
I wrote my first book before I'd even

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gone to graduate school. It was
called The Boyfriend Test, How do we

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evaluate his potential before you lose your
heart? Later on, when I had

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a master's in psychology, I wrote
The Girlfriend Test, How datable are you

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really? I interviewed a hundred men
for that book, one hundred recently married

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man, and I basically asked them, why did you marry her? And

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why didn't you call the rest of
us back? And it was very enlightening.

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Later, after I had a PhD, I wrote the Thirty Day Love

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DTOX, how to cleanse yourself of
bad boys and commitment fobes and find a

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real relationship. Obviously, I was
also spending all those years healing myself and

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my own attachment injuries. I would
like to think that I had a kind

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of anxious, ambivalent attachment style.
We're actually going to be talking about attachment

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style later in the show, and
I have one of the world renowned researchers

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on attachment style joining us later in
the show. I also want to talk

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about why good friends are important to
your love life. I'm going to go

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to social media also and to help
you answer some of your questions, because

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I know when we do calls,
you get nervous. It's intimate, and

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you're what if you're asking me about
your relationship and that other person is listening.

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I get it. So it's fun
to go into the DM every while

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once in a while and get those
kinds of things. Also, if you're

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single, I want you to stay
to the end. This is a very

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special three hour show. But in
the third hour I want to focus on

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how to find a mate if you're
single, so getting on those dating apps,

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what to put in your profile or
not, steps to finding love on

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a dating app, going from hey, we're a match to oh we're dating?

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What are we now? And later
in the show, I also want

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to talk about slow love and my
prescription for growing love the slow way.

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Now, my week has been very
interesting because a piece of me is coming

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together. It's a long story,
but during the pandemic, like many of

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you, I was uprooted, buying
a place somewhere else and putting tenants in

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my place, and then renting to
get a kid in one school and moving

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a moving storage facilities, moving boxes, moving whatever. But this week I

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did the great purge where you realize
I'm not going to have a storage facility

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anymore. I'm not going to have
that other place. I'm gonna put everything

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in one place. So there's some
feelings of like just coming together, and

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also the purge saying goodbye to lots
of stuff. You know, our stuff

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holds memories, every chair we ever
sat in for every dinner, every piece

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of clothing we wore. Clothing in
particular, it's a reflection of our identity.

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And when you get rid of clothes, you're getting rid of a piece

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of your identity. I've heard this
theory mostly by wardrobe stylists, who say

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that if you haven't worn thing,
something, an article in one calendar year,

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that you should just get rid of
it right one calendar year. Producer,

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Kayla, you did not like that
idea, did you? I did

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not. I like to have my
options, but I think you're ever going

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to dig in, like like you
know exactly so when. So here's the

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thing with me. I've gotten rid
of a lot of stuff that I don't

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wear anymore because I'm not like on
TV every night like when I was a

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news anchor. But there's still these
really sexy high heels that I can't get

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rid of because I'm like, there's
still like maybe maybe I'll get invited.

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There's I could you will get invited? And you eat those hills really yeah?

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Yeah, I don't even know if
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I got to practice around your kitchen
just from the you know what, it

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was COVID. We all got into
sneakers with COVID and flats and now I'm

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you know what Julio gave me for
my birthday? Oh my god, I've

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never had anything like this. Gucci
loafers is not a waste of money or

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what? Are they? Like?
Extremely extremely extremely comfortable? Yes, yes,

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yes, yes, I'm extremely expensive. Like we could have had like

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a trip around the world for that. I don't know, maybe not,

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but anyway, there, I'm into
the flats. But you see, that's

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my point. Am I letting go
of my glamorous self? Am I ready

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to let go of you know,
something sexy even if it's uncomfortable? Am

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I letting? And these are the
real questions that happen when you purge and

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you get rid of things. The
the thing I did, of course,

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is dug through all the baby pictures
I'm also holding because my parents died when

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I was thirty, and I'm holding
their boxes of stuff too, So I've

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got like my mom's wedding album and
her single girls. I got a lot

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of stuff. And so going through
those pictures brought this overwhelming feeling of melancholy

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to me. And I'm telling you
this because I know I'm not alone and

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it may be other things that bring
it up for you, But I want

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you to know that all feelings are
welcome and usually bad things happen to us

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when we try to suppress feelings because
they find a way to come out in

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all kinds of weird behavior. So
sometimes, like I did, if you

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need to take a night off and
just sit and cry, because I'm just

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saying I've all the baby pictures over
Mother's Day and my girls are grown,

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so I was like having delayed empty
nest syndrome as well at the same time.

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Anyway, my point is that all
feelings are welcome, and we should

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respect our feelings as important messagers in
our our lives. Something else that's important

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in our lives good friends. Did
you know that good friends can actually make

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your love life better, not because
they're fixing you up with somebody. But

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let me explain why you are listening
to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI

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AM six forty. We're live everywhere
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Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI
AM six forty. Welcome back to the

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Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM
six forty. We're live everywhere on the

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iHeartRadio app. You know, friends
are very very important to our mental health,

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and we all need social support.
I think a couple of weeks ago,

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I was talking about the new Surgeon
General's report saying that loneliness has become

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an epidemic in America and many of
us need to work harder to make sure

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we keep up those social connections because
we evolved to be social creatures. We

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are a many one brained species,
and we cooperate together, we share together,

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and loneliness is bad for our mental
health and it's bad for our physical

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health. I have a number of
friends who I've had since pretty much the

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beginning of time. I have a
friend from seventh grade, a friend from

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eighth grade, a friend here in
LA that I've had for thirty three years.

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In fact, I was digging through, as I mentioned, pictures in

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boxes, and one of them I
found of us all standing at like the

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Beverly Hilton at some charity event that
I was the chair of and we were

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all dressed up and there was a
bunch of couples and whatever, and I

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took a picture of it and I
sent it to her and I was like,

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do you remember who the guy is
you're with? And She's like,

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oh God, I wonder if he's
still alive. Listen, she said.

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I'm like, I think you went
out with him for a few years.

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She goes, I know what was
I thinking. But it is fun to

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have historical friends, friends who have
those memories with you, remember those times

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together. Now, not every friend
has to be a long term friend.

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We can have friends that are common
interest friends, like maybe we go to

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yoga lotties with a group that we
see regularly, or maybe we're lucky enough

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to have a couple deeply intimate friends. They're all kinds of friends out there.

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Research has shown that the wider your
social circle, the happier you are.

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And I used to think those friends
of mine, I call them the

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connectors that have a referral for everything. I used to think, oh,

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they're not really close to anybody,
They're just like they have a few But

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turns out the research shows they're happy
as anything because they have connections to all

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kinds of people. They have referrals
to people. They have doctors they can

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call. Okay, they have lawyers
they could call. They have connections,

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they have plumbers, they got it
all. So the more people we have

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in our life, the better.
But when it comes to our romantic life,

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I know, when you first meet
somebody. Your cocoon a little bit,

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right, everybody does, you leave
your friends behind, your friends get

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mad, you go into your little
romantic compartment just thinking and dreaming and breathing

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in that person, and then you
come out of it like who am I?

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What was this? Well, let
me explain why you need to reach

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out after cocooning and reconnect with some
of those friends, and that they will

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actually help you with your relationship.
First of all, they fulfill needs that

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your partner cannot. The famous relationship
analyst or therapist Esther Perell says that one

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of the biggest problems in our relationships
today is that we have replaced the village

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with one person. We expect our
partner to be everything. We expect our

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partner to be our emotional support,
our intellectual stimulation, our jungle gym for

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our sexual pleasure, our financial partner. It is too much. It's too

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much to put on one person,
and so having a social network of people

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that you can call and rely on
actually help support your relationship. The research

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shows that people with lots of social
relationship ships outside of their primary romantic relationship

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actually have higher life satisfaction. You
know this morning, I was up early

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for some reason. Julio slept in
longer than me, and I was out

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in the living room and I got
on the phone with my best friend Maria

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and we were just chatted about everything. I didn't even notice that he got

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up started making breakfast whatever. I
was just in another And you know you

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need it all, You really do
need it all now. I mentioned in

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one of my books. I can't
remember if it was the boyfriend test of

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the girlfriend test, but one of
the questions was do your friends support your

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relationship or support your single life.
I remember rack when I was a young

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woman dating that I had these certain
friends that they would always find things wrong

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with the people I was dating.
And then I realized, oh, they're

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not wanting me to be happy.
They need me out in the single world

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because they're my wing girls and they're
out there getting my seconds. So they

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don't want me hooked up and out
there with a guy because then they've lost

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me. So if you have good
friends that support your relationship, they can

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actually help salvage your relationship when times
get tough, when there is conflict and

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you go talk to your girlfriend about
it. And that's the kind of girlfriend

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that says, you know what you
need to give him break? Seriously,

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you're bring a little bit hard on
him. Think about the times that he

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did this, or vice versa.
Dude, you call up your guy friend

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and you go, ah, I
think I just need a divorce, and

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he's gonna say, no, Man, look what she does for you.

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You want to stay with her.
She's good. You don't want to be

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out of here with us single guys. So have friendships that support your relationship.

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And the other one is they help
you not lose yourself completely in the

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relationship. Now, relationships become part
of our identity. Right. It's often

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when people are dealing with long term
grieving after the loss of a loved one,

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whether it's divorce or death, they've
actually lost a piece of themselves because

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when you get in a relationship where
you're so in sync, you only have

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to use half a brain because the
other person is doing the other half of

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everything. Even feeling, the feeling
work and the thinking work, and having

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friends helps you remember who you are, remember who you were, so that

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you don't get sucked into that vortex
of love wound around somebody in a relationship.

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So I'm telling you keep your friendships
up. Yes, that means go

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out for your girlfriend knights, not
the girlfriends that are not supportive of your

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relationship, not the girlfriends that want
to drag you out to singles clubs or

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whatever. I understand what your partner
doesn't want you hanging with them, but

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think about other people in secure relationships
and then just go hang out with the

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same sex. Part of that.
Go out and you know, guys,

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go golfing, go to card night, go watch boxing, whatever you do,

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Yankee games, oh no, Dodger
games sorry, run city. And

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then ladies go to book club,
hang go to yoga together. It's so

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important for your love relationship. Okay, speaking of love relationships. When we

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come back, I'm going to take
a dive into my social media and check

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out my dms. If you'd like
to send me a message, it is

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at doctor Wendy wall at Dr Wendy
Walter, start Instagram, TikTok. Maybe

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let's look into the dms and see
if you have some relationship questions, because

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I've got some drive by makeshift relationship
advice coming next you listening to the Doctor

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six forty. Welcome back to the
Doctor Wendy Walls Show on kf I AM

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six forty. We're live everywhere on
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would like to take some time to
answer some of your relationship questions. I

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want to remind you this isn't therapy. I'm not a therapist. I happen

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to have a PhD in clinical psychology. I'm a psychology professor. But I've

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been reading about and writing about the
science of love for quite a few decades.

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I also have a lot of life
experience. Think of me as your

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old auntie who has had some bad
things happen to her in relationships, oh

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and some good things too. So
I'm happy to share my wisdom. So

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let us go to the DM Instagram
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a message, you just send a
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doctor Wendy Walsh at Dr Wendy Walsh. Dear doctor Wendy, I don't know

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if it's politically correct to say this. See when you start out like that

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and what is this is a dude? Yeah, dude, When you start

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out like that, probably it's not
politically correct, he said, But I

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have to say it. My wife
is letting herself go. She used to

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be always so well dressed and put
together, but for the past year she

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hasn't been putting effort into herself.
How can I say something without hurting her

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feelings? Well, I want to
remind you that everybody's behavior is a what's

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the word? The behaviors are motivated
by feelings. I'm worried about a couple

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of things. Maybe she's like,
I'm going to ask you to ask yourself.

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What else has she been going through
in the past year? Is she

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suffering from depression? Have there been
stuff that happens? What's going on in

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the relationship with you? You know, try to get her talking about what

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she's experiencing, because I promise you
her not you know, spend it.

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Look, I know what it's like. There are days, many days where

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I do not want to put on
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to get dressed up, and I
don't on those days. And luckily I

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work in radio now, so I
don't always have to. But if you

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see this as consistent. It's a
reflection of what's going on inside her somewhere.

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Nagging her and telling her to look
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It's the worst thing you can do. I might give you permission to say

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something like, hey, baby,
I haven't taken you out dancing in a

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long time. Why don't you get
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together. Let's make a nice night
of it. That makes sense, right,

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Kayla? Does that make sense?
But that sound hurtful? That sounds

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lovely? Yeah, I think that
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ask her how she's feeling not aren't
you dressing nice? Right? Okay?

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Dear doctor Wendy. Oh, so
my husband and my best friend had a

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platonic relationship outside of me. I'm
gonna pause there to say, are you

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sure? Okay? They were really
good friends. They had a disagreement and

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no longer talk to each other.
I find myself in the middle of it.

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This is becoming stressful. How can
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I don't think they will ever be
friends again. Well, I would like

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to know what the fight was about. I think there's way more material in

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there that you don't know. About
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if you knew more, you would
have told me. You know, you

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got to choose your husband over your
best friend. Sorry, that's the union,

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right, You've made this commitment.
Maybe you have kids together. I

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don't know. Maybe the level of
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you thought, and maybe this disagreement
was long overdue, and maybe they do

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need to take some space. And
maybe you need to take some space from

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this best friend if she's a threat
to your relationship. That's all I'm going

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to say. But there's some more
material in there. I know there is.

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There's something you don't know. It's
making me think. It's just making

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me think. Dear doctor went,
oh, I get this stuff all the

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time. This is from a gentleman. And he said, dear doctor,

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Wendy, I'm having really bad luck
on the dating apps and I can't get

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a girlfriend. I'm wondering if it's
because I'm short and I don't make a

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lot of money. I work in
the fast food industry. How can I

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get ladies to see what a lover
I am. Well, I just want

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to tell you that the ways that
men showcase their mating strategy isn't always by

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height and a full head of hair
and a big thick wallet. It's by

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intelligence and humor and how you make
a woman feel. I promise you there

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are other women working at that fast
food place who would think you're hysterical and

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fun if you gave them the time
of day in the right way. I

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was listening to Steve Harvey the other
day. He was telling a story from

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college how his brother gave him advice
about how to pick up a woman.

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And it was the cutest story because
he said, the first day you walk

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by her in the cafeterier, you
just say hello and you keep moving.

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This next time you see or you
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Would you mind telling me your name? She'll say the name, and then

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you say hello, and you walk
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days, then you walk by again, and this time you say hi,

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whatever name is, Felicia. I
just want to think the name actually,

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was that Caleb? I just want
you, And now that I know your

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name, you should know mine.
Who was saying hello to my name is

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Steve And she said hi, Steve, and then the brothers said keep walking,

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just keep walking anyway, It took
like two weeks for him to say,

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you know, I'd like to take
you out for pizza one night and

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I'll come pick you. He goes. By the time I got to her

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dorm to walk her to pizza,
there were thirty women standing outside. Gone

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r look at you because he played
hard to get in a cool way right

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to say Hi, Just be simple
and move away. And for sure,

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I know it's hard. You don't
want to look desperate, right, You

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don't want to be a victim.
You just got to get your mojo back.

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Got to get yourself confidence because these
are inner voices inside you. Other

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people might not think the negative things
about you that you'll think about you,

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right, You got to change those
into positive voices. Okay, when we

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come back, I'm going to continue
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If you'd like to send me a
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more of my drive by makeshift relationship
advice. If you'd like to send

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a private message a DM, you
can on my Instagram or on my TikTok.

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I don't know if producer Kalis checking
the comments on YouTube, but you

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can follow me anywhere. Everything is
at Dr Wendy Walsh. You know,

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we we switch it up a lot. Sometimes we do something that's all phone

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calls, and sometimes we just check
the dms. You know, these are

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very tender, intimate questions, and
I really am honored that you send them

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to me. So it's okay to
change your name. I will never say

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your name out on air. If
you call in on other weeks, I

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won't say. You know you can
change your name. I don't care.

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Okay. Like here, here's an
interesting one, Dear Doctor Wendy. My

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girlfriend broke up with me because I
got her earrings and a coat that she

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said is not her style. I'm
so hurt. I tried buying her more

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gifts, but she won't accept them. I love her so much. Where

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did I go wrong? Okay,
sir, this is not about the gifts.

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It has nothing to do with the
gifts. It has to do with

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what your relationship was based on.
First of all, I'm wondering if your

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relationship was only material like Okay,
we do know that relationships are an exchange

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of care, and that care can
take many forms. It can be instrumental

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care. It give be emotional support
care. It can be caring for someone

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if they're sick. It could be
intellectual stimulation care. It can be sexual

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care. And yeah, it can
be financial care. It can be childcare.

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It can be domestic responsibility care.
They're all kinds of ways that we

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care for each other. But if
your relationship is just based on the material

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on her end, well I don't
really like him that much, but it

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gives me these gifts so I'll hang
around. Then it's a false relationship,

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right, It's not gonna last.
On the other hand, I'm wondering if

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she wanted more more of you emotionally. You know. I remember years ago

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I was dating this guy and I
was really really into him. I thought

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he was great, and he gave
me this designer belt, like so I

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can't remember which line this belt,
and he made me open up it up

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in front of this other couple friends, and the woman made a point of

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going, oh, wow, you
must be really special. Look at that

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wonderful gift, And I said and
again, I process externally, So sometimes

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I hear thoughts for the first time
out of my lips. And I found

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myself saying I don't want stuff.
I want love. That's what I said

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right at the dinner table with that
other couple. And he felt so hurt

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that he bought me this nice gift, and I really insulted him. I

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feel bad about saying that, but
basically he was trying to give me stuff

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as a surrogate for giving me what
I really wanted, which was an emotional

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connection, which was him. So
I'm wondering, if your girlfriend wants you

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not the coat, not the earrings, or if she just wants your money

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and you didn't spend enough, do
you really want her anyway? I'm just

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going to say that. Okay,
back to the dms on Instagram. Oh

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here's a good one. Let me
see, ah, Dear doctor Wendy,

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I feel like I keep attracting unavailable
players. It's the only thing I'm attracted

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to nice guys, just don't do
it for me. Why am I addicted

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to being hurt? Well, the
answer to this, the exact answer to

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this, will come up between you
and your therapist, especially if you go

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to a psychoanalytic therapist like I did, because I went with the same question,

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you are exactly me When I was
thirty thirty two years old, right,

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bad boys, bad boys, bad
boys, nice guys turn me off.

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I would say, oh, they're
too nice, right, And so,

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you know, my therapist helped me
understand that I had a faulty attachment

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system, that I actually was more
in love with longing than I was with

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feelings of security. So if a
guy would bring up feelings of longing,

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I got all activated. And here's
the crazy thing how attachment style works.

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We usually get really sexually aroused by
those that will hurt us the most if

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we have an anxious attachment style,
right. And so when I would say,

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ah, just you know, those
nice guys don't do it for me,

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I'm not even aroused. I'm not
attracted to them, right. It

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was because I was in love with
longing. I wasn't in love with feelings

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of safety and security. Eventually,
through years of therapy and lots of reading

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and writing and lots of changing my
behaviors, I was able to change.

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I was able to understand that I
deserve care. I deserve somebody who can

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take care of me. I deserve
that I can have a great, wonder

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full, exciting sex life with somebody
like that because I've made the choice.

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I've made the choice to have a
rational love. And I hope you can

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understand that a lot of this often
has to do with early childhood trauma that

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only you and your therapist can tease
apart. You can get to the bottom

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of the why, and then you
can change your patterns by making different choices,

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by learning how to tolerate kindness,
learning how to be around niceness and

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find that very attractive. This is
a choice for you to make. All

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right, When we come back,
I have a very special guest of the

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show, doctor Olmri Gilath, from
the Department of Psychology at the University of

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Kansas. He has been studying close
relationships and attachment theory for two decades and

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he's done the most interesting study.
Did you know you can prime somebody,

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give them certain kinds of cues,
and then when they get asked out on

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a date, they're going to choose
a short term or a long term relationship

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based on how they were primed.
It's going to be a really interesting conversation.

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