1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,880 All right. It was September of twenty seventeen. Mark and I had went 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:18,519 to Lee Creek for an outing. We'd got there and we'd met Debbie and 3 00:00:18,559 --> 00:00:24,359 the girls and several other people. They'd talked about all the activity they'd had 4 00:00:24,399 --> 00:00:30,600 previously in this area, and we had cooked steaks and stuff. Ate went 5 00:00:30,719 --> 00:00:35,679 down to the creek and hung out there, and somebody started throwing rocks in 6 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:41,159 the creek, and we were getting rocks thrown back off the little bluff that 7 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,359 was across the creek that didn't have any access by any roads or anything. 8 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:51,880 That went on for probably an hour or so. It kind of dissipated after 9 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,640 a while, and we all walked back to camp. It probably was about 10 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,039 twelve thirty at that point, and Mark and I had camped away from everybody 11 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:04,079 else in the main camp. We'd cross the creek and went back in the 12 00:01:04,079 --> 00:01:07,959 woods, probably one hundred and fifty two hundred yards from the creek on the 13 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,159 other side, away from everybody. We had a four wheler and we left 14 00:01:12,239 --> 00:01:19,280 the main camp because it was probably distance wise it was probably a half mile 15 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,840 from everybody. We crossed the creek, got back to our camp, cut 16 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:26,840 off the ATV and as soon as we cut off the ATV, we had 17 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:33,280 a loud howl. It's one of the closest ones I've heard, except possibly 18 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,439 one more. But me and Mark looked at each other, shrugged their shoulders 19 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:41,879 and rolled over, and he went to his hammock. I got in my 20 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,799 hammock. We went to sleep. About two thirty I started smelling something that 21 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,680 was rank. I was asleep, and it woke me up. I was 22 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:53,959 sniffing, trying to figure out what it was. I thought, I've been 23 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:04,079 camping for three days. Is it may Is it my brain? But yeah, 24 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:08,240 but it wasn't. I could hear something walk as I woke up. 25 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:13,080 I could hear something walking away from the head end of my hammock, and 26 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,840 I tried to turn. I had a thermal, I had a pistol, 27 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:22,680 and I had a light all across my lap in the hammt and I tried 28 00:02:22,719 --> 00:02:24,680 to turn with the thermal to get it on thermal, and I couldn't turn 29 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,560 enough at the angle it was to get it on thermal. So I laid 30 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,879 there and held the thermal up over my head, pointing it behind me, 31 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,159 and just scanned it over my head trying to pick something up. It probably 32 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:45,400 walked fifty yards from us and stopped whenever I started moving, and you could 33 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:51,240 tell it was bipedal and all that. But I just took the thermal back 34 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:55,719 down and laid there still, and after a few minutes I heard it walk 35 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,960 off toward the creek and away from us. The next day I told Mark 36 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:07,199 about it, and we reviewed well. Mark or Shelley reviewed the audio later. 37 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:12,120 And you could hear for thirty minutes prior to me waking up, the 38 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:16,919 thing would throw rocks. You could hear it ping off the ATV. You 39 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:22,360 could hear it hit close to me, and you could hear the feet shuffle 40 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,319 a little bit, and it would stop, and you wouldn't hear nothing for 41 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:30,319 a little while, and it would throw more stuff in to see what it 42 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,560 was gonna take to wake me up. And I don't know how close the 43 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,479 thing was whenever I finally smelt it, but it had to be within twenty 44 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:44,439 yards of me whenever I finally woke up, because when it took off walking, 45 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,960 it was close. And believe it or not, Mark didn't wake up 46 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,439 through it. He was over there about twenty or thirty yards from me. 47 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,439 He didn't know about it till the next morning, I didn't jump up and 48 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,039 run over there and wake him up. I just went back to sleep. 49 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,680 In about four in the morning, something else coming to camp. But I 50 00:04:03,719 --> 00:04:10,400 got it on thermal and it was just a raccoon or an armadilla, but 51 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,800 it sounded totally different. But you were worried, weren't you? No where 52 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,120 you were thinking? I was thinking, but I wasn't worried. It affected 53 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,759 me worse later after I thought about it, how close I was to whatever 54 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,879 it was than it did that night. And then I started putting my hammock 55 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:41,319 up in the middle of everybody, stood on the outside of everybody. You 56 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:45,439 know what'll happen if there's one thing that I don't mention or added, It'll 57 00:04:45,439 --> 00:04:50,399 be like, oh, he's going. I was with a friend of mine 58 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:56,000 and we were coon hunting, and I was new to it. He'd been 59 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,839 taking me coon hunting some We were down in Jackson, CA In Indiana, 60 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:03,279 and we were kind of we were down in the river bottoms. We were 61 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:08,000 very close to the river actually, but we're kind of in between two towns. 62 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,680 We were between a town called Viologna and a town called Madoor, Indiana. 63 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:15,920 So we run the dogs and they were way out ahead of us, 64 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,879 and we were still up by the gravel road. We went took off down 65 00:05:18,959 --> 00:05:24,800 toward the dogs. They were carrying on pretty good. We got down there 66 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,920 they were carried on, and we come up to this ravine and these This 67 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,120 ravine is not where the river flows. It only flows like through there when 68 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,079 the river gets out, and it kind of cuts new channels and stuff, 69 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:41,000 you know, over the years, and then when the river flows out of 70 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,040 them, they grow up and they grow up with a lot of junk in 71 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,439 them and vines and bushes. I'm not eating, but either way, this 72 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:51,639 ravine we come up on, its pretty deep, estimating ten twelve feet deep. 73 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,920 It was pretty deep or wash out or whatever you want to call it. 74 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,519 The dogs is carrying on pretty good, and it was going on for 75 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,360 a while and they were down in all this stick stuff. Every once in 76 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,120 a while come by and we have these big coon lights. And it's the 77 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,959 old style coonlights where you had like the metal hat and had the headlight on 78 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,480 it kind of like a coal miner's type hat, and it had those big 79 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:17,639 old battery packs on your side. It always pulled your pants down and killed 80 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,800 your hip, you know. Oh yeah, old school. So we were 81 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,720 getting kind of bored with it. And there's a tree growing up, like 82 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:29,600 right there beside the drop off, and it's real muddy, and I'm just 83 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,040 leaning up against that tree and my buddy Tim is to my left. He's 84 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,600 a little ways away from me, but not that far. And we got 85 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,800 our lights and were shining in this ravine. You know, it's growed up 86 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,800 real thick. Literally can't even see the dogs. You hear the dogs down 87 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,199 in there. We kind of just hanging out and one of the dogs got 88 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:50,560 to sounding a little bit different. Keep in mind, I'm new at this, 89 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,199 I don't they had to have different tones, different sounds, and they 90 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,000 tree a coon and I'm not that familiar with it, but it sounded different. 91 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,839 Caught me a little bit off go and I thought, well, maybe 92 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,560 something's going on. And we're both shining the ravine still we have the handheld 93 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,600 lights. All of a sudden, I see this dog come through the air. 94 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,439 And when I say come through the air, keep in mind this ravine 95 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:17,480 I'm estimating ten twelve feet deep and it's really wide. You can't jump across 96 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:21,720 the ravine. Carl Lewis can't jump across that ravine. Couldn't do it. 97 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,040 A dog cannot jump across that ravine. It's too white. This dog comes 98 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,399 through the air, not at an upward angle or coming down or anything, 99 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,240 comes across straight, and it's like it happened in slow motion. And this 100 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:42,000 dog has kind of got this. It's not in balance like a dog jumps 101 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,079 out of the ditch, but it hits and it tumbles a little bit, 102 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:50,360 only because it didn't really fall. It just came straight across. I was 103 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,839 just frozen in time, and my eyes was huge, I'm sure. And 104 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,759 I look at Tim because he's the experienced guy, when not really he was 105 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,160 only sixteen too, But and we're looking at each other and putting lights in 106 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:05,959 each other's face, and his eyes are real big around he's puzzled by what 107 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,160 he sees. The first thing I said was, what was that? Why 108 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:16,680 did that? What? You know, it's even hard for me to explain. 109 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:20,920 It's like the dog. You know, your first reaction to somebody threw 110 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:22,720 the dog. Well, yeah, somebody did throw the dog, but this 111 00:08:22,839 --> 00:08:28,160 dog is like forty pounds, fifty pounds. Yeah, again, I'm guessing 112 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:33,279 you can't throw the dog that straight. You can't do it. The dog 113 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,600 came across there like that. I kept saying, what was that? What 114 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:43,200 you know? And he instantly just kind of accepted it like it wasn't nothing. 115 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,799 He just said, well, it just jumped up out of there. 116 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:50,360 That dog didn't jump up out of there. That dog what it landed on 117 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:56,159 its feet had it jumped out of there. So that was the end of 118 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,000 that. All way, we headed back the truth. The dog just kept 119 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:03,440 going back on his feet and it kept going the whole time of walk in 120 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,639 the field. I just keep It's like I'm almost walking backwards because I'm wondering 121 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:11,320 what that is. Is that gonna come and throw me? I keep asking 122 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:13,440 him, and I'm like, dude, you see what I seen? What 123 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,679 was that? Well? I don't you know. He just rejected it mentally 124 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:22,519 right away, but I didn't forget it. So look, it was a 125 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,840 dog yelling or anything. The only thing it did was there a yap and 126 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:31,159 wonder down in there doing their thing. And the one dog started to sounding 127 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,840 different, kind of like it was like it was stressed really bad or something 128 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,080 like something was going on, you know, something was different, and it 129 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,480 seemed it was just the one dog, but there was two dogs down there. 130 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,559 It didn't take him long though. We was we was headed out. 131 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,960 We were not far behind behind the dog. It was headed to the truck 132 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,480 the best I could tell. But when we got to the truck, the 133 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:58,879 dog was at the truck. The other one it came to came right up. 134 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,679 He was yelling, and it come right up, right up, back 135 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,080 up behind us. We actually beat it to the try. I'll ask you 136 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,720 this before, but you didn't put this together. But you didn't even now 137 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:15,799 connect this with anything Bigfoot related, nah a long time now, just just 138 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:18,320 puzzled by what could have done that? That was it there? You know, 139 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:22,600 sort of Bigfoot reading a few books when I was a kid, and 140 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,000 that's awesome stuff like that, because most times these stories you hear they kill 141 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,720 the dog, yeah, or the dog is so scared, you know, 142 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:33,879 and these coon dogs are mean, they attacked, they want to kill those 143 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,519 coons. But this dog didn't run or anything. Looked like maybe it just 144 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:45,080 got snatched up and thrown. It beats me, Ivish. That next morning, 145 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:48,759 something came into camp, but this had a totally different feel and we 146 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,360 could actually see the shadows on the tent. It was huge and we could 147 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,759 make out the shoulders and head, and another one came up to the left 148 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:58,399 side of it, and it was coming up from the front of our tent 149 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:05,600 with a fire was out there, and I pushed on Sandy's colot with my 150 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,919 foot and she looked over and I went. She looked up and she could 151 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:13,000 see the shadows, and she pushed on Barber's tent did the same thing. 152 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:18,320 So they all saw that. You could hear the footfall. And I had 153 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,480 my recorder going out in the back left corner of my tent, and Barbara 154 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,519 had hers out in the front. So anyway they walk around, you could 155 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,600 hear a moving They weren't running around throwing crap at us like the look we 156 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:33,480 think juveniles, you know. But anyway, it was just a totally different 157 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:39,600 feel. And I've never been scared or felt any kind of fear until then, 158 00:11:41,159 --> 00:11:46,480 you know. And so anyway about sit, well, it was six 159 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:48,639 twenty nine, because I keep my phone under my pilla so I can see 160 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:52,240 what time it is six twenty nine. From the back left corner where my 161 00:11:52,759 --> 00:12:01,600 audio recorder kiss, it was this high pitched female sound scream and it was 162 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:07,480 real shrill, and then it ended in like a whoop, and then ten 163 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:11,320 seconds later another one from it was the same being that did it, I'm 164 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,279 sure because it was the exact same scream, exact same area, same thing, 165 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:20,600 and we were like, that's the Medusa scream. That guy was legit. 166 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:26,440 He we understood now what he was talking about. But it was bigfoot, 167 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,679 I'm sure. So the next night, same exact stuff. Those juveniles. 168 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,120 They're back, you know, a little less activity, you know, 169 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,799 But and then that next morning same about the same time, they coming to 170 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:43,159 camp again. It did it three nights in a row. The fourth night 171 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:46,919 it was raining and it was a lot less activity, but we still had 172 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:52,200 them coming into camp. But on that second night, if you went on 173 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,320 pass where that guy had been camping, you go another several miles down and 174 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:00,960 the road ends and there's a campground and there we was some bear hunters down 175 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,440 there, and we had talked to him every day we'd go down there because 176 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,799 we wanted to keep up with who was where, you know. And so 177 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,799 the second night, way off in that direction where the bear hunters were, 178 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,320 we heard four gun shots and I said, well, they're either drinking and 179 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,720 getting rowdy or they're having something going on in camp. And then just a 180 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:24,039 few not even a minute or so later, we heard two more gun shots, 181 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,360 and then within a minute or so we heard that Medusa scream from that 182 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:31,639 area over there, and I'm like, oh, yeah, they're having activity 183 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:37,120 and that's what they're cheating at. And so we were excited. And then 184 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,919 the third night, somewhere between them and us, we heard the Medusa scream 185 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,080 again, and so we're like, that poor young guy must have been scared 186 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,840 out of his mind. But anyway, that was that was really cool because 187 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:56,559 we thought he was on drugs or something. Talking about sounded like a killer 188 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:00,679 carry a sword around with it. Yeah, yeah, it's funny when you 189 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:09,000 say Medusa's scream you call my sister that really, I know, That's what 190 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,399 I was like. We even talked about it after he left, you know, 191 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,039 before we went down there. I'm like, what was he talking about? 192 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:18,519 Medusa scream? It just didn't make sense, But then we were like, 193 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,159 okay, because it did. It was so high pitched, you know 194 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:26,559 how you hear on movies pterodactyls and stuff. That's exactly what it was reminiscent 195 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,159 of. But I got excited because my recorder was right in that corner where 196 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:35,559 that screen was coming from, and Barbara went ahead that next morning got hers 197 00:14:35,559 --> 00:14:39,759 and played it back and it picked it up good on hers and hers was 198 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:45,240 in front, so when Shelley listens to it, she ought to hear something 199 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,879 good on that. Well, it was really high pitched, and all three 200 00:14:48,919 --> 00:14:52,039 of us we all said it sounded female, but we just had a feeling 201 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,840 that it was like a like an alpha female. I think she was finally 202 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,960 like saying, this is it? Leave this? Yeah, So it was. 203 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:09,200 It was pretty interesting. Let's saying, let's go out. That's fascinating. 204 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:13,919 I'd never heard that scream like that before. And if it hadn't had 205 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:16,879 the whoop on the end, I would have said, I don't know what 206 00:15:16,919 --> 00:15:20,639 the heck that was. But it had a whoop on the end. Well, 207 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:24,919 I've heard other stuff, but not sound like that. Tell them about 208 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:31,039 your daddy and the y'all's experience down there. Well, where I grew up, 209 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,639 I was. I lived in Malta, Texas. We only had just 210 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:39,440 a few hundred people in the little community. The school went to eighth grade 211 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,360 and I was valedictorian in my eighth grade class. And I normally don't tell 212 00:15:43,399 --> 00:15:50,879 people, but there was only three of us. We had like two grades 213 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,360 in each classroom, you know, So fifth and six were together, seventh 214 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,120 and eighth were together, and once you got out eighth grade, you had 215 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,639 to go to high school. Any their New Boston, which was seven miles 216 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:03,879 in one direction r and DCAB which was seven miles in the opposite direction, 217 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,039 and I ended up I ended up going to both, you know, and 218 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,960 so because Decap was just more down to earth, I think. And anyway, 219 00:16:15,159 --> 00:16:22,679 so where this place was located though, was only probably about thirty forty 220 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,399 miles from Falk, Arkansas, which is legendary in the Bigfoot community, you 221 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,559 know, because of the legend of Boggy Creek. And a lot of my 222 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:37,399 cousins lived up in Texa, Cana and in that area, and some of 223 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,039 my cousins lived in falc and uh like I, you know, my Mama 224 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:47,840 and Daddy had adopted me when they were forty one, and so I already 225 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:51,440 had two brothers that were twenty some odd years older than me. So all 226 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,240 my first cousins were in their you know, twenties, and so I grew 227 00:16:56,279 --> 00:17:02,320 up with my second cousins, and I grew up playing with my second cousins 228 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:04,960 in those woods in foulk Arkansas. But back then, when I was a 229 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:08,920 kid, we didn't know that Bigfoot even existed. We didn't know what a 230 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,839 bigfoot was, you know, and I didn't even really know about it until 231 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,599 I was in my early twenties or so. But what we called that creature 232 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:25,119 in Fount, Arkansas was the Fount monsters. That's all we ever heard was 233 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,240 a Fount monster, you know. My mama and daddy and everybody would say, 234 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,319 oh, honey, it's not real, you know. But then the 235 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,759 Legend of Boggy Creek movie came out and we went to see it, and 236 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,559 she really had to tell me that because it said, you know, based 237 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:42,880 on true events. And I went with my cousins and we were all looking 238 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,079 at our parents like what, and they were saying, no, honey, 239 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,000 that's just a movie. They just do that to make it more exciting, 240 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,920 and so we were like, okay. You know. Anyway, when I 241 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:02,519 was about fourteen years old, it was Christmas and my mama was sick. 242 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,079 She had cancer, and so she was in the bed in the front room 243 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:11,400 of our house and my daddy and I were on the front porch hanging Christmas 244 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,599 lights and there were blue Christmas lights and so it didn't light up very much, 245 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,640 you know, and we had the front porch light off because we could 246 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,799 see better where we were putting them in spacing the Christmas lights out. We 247 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,160 had a long house. It was almost like, you know, a long 248 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,759 shotgun top house. On the on the left hand side of the porch was 249 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,920 the car port. Then on the right it was just you know, we 250 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,119 had woods all the way around us, and a pond back behind us, 251 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,680 and a dirt road in front of us. It was so dark out there, 252 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,400 and we were on the right hand side of the house, opposite from 253 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,440 the car port. And when we were hanging the Christmas lights, coming from 254 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,319 the left hand further on down, you know, away from us, sounded 255 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,519 like it was coming from on the other side of where my Mamma's house used 256 00:18:55,559 --> 00:18:59,839 to be. Next door, we heard just this. It was gosh, 257 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,119 it was so scary. It was like a moan, a roar, and 258 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,119 a growl altogether. And I had never heard anything like that before. And 259 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,200 it was so loud, you know, it's just and it's scared to crap 260 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,240 out of me. And I looked at my daddy and I was like, 261 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:18,599 what was that, Daddy? And he was he just paused for a second, 262 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:21,559 and he said, I don't know what that was, but let's just 263 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,359 and finish this. Well, my daddy, like I said, he was 264 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,839 forty one when he adopted me, and that was back in sixty six when 265 00:19:29,839 --> 00:19:33,720 I was born. So my daddy had been in three wars, Vietnam, 266 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,119 World War two, and Korea, and he never was scared of anything. 267 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,160 But I could just tell that, you know, he stopped and looked in 268 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,200 that direction, but he's like, let's go ahead and finish this. And 269 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:48,400 so I was like, well, let's let's go in because I've never heard 270 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,480 anything like that before. And he was like, no, let's just go 271 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,559 ahead and finish this. And so we're trying to get it up, and 272 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:56,599 thank goodness, it was not a very long porch. But as we're working 273 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,319 our way to the left, you know, we get to about the her 274 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,559 and we hear it again, but this time it's closer up, and he 275 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,119 says, go in the house and get my gun. And I said, 276 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,960 I'm not leaving you out here. And I said, please, come on, 277 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:11,799 let's go in the house. He goes, no, just hurry up, 278 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:14,880 go in the house and get my gun. I said, no, 279 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,640 Daddy, I was about starting to cry, you know, I said, 280 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,359 let's go in the house please, And about that time, from the carport 281 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,680 area, we heard it again, and this time I've just busted out in 282 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:32,319 tears and he's pushing me in the house and he just pushes right on by 283 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,039 me. Well, my mama was, you know, right there in that 284 00:20:34,079 --> 00:20:37,839 first front room in the bed, and she sees me, you know, 285 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,039 crying, and he's running through the house, going to go find his gun, 286 00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:45,119 and he's coming back out and she's like, what's going on. And 287 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,119 I'm like, there's a monster outside of well, you know what I'm trying 288 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,200 to make the sound for. And I'm worried because Daddy now is just going 289 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:56,039 out there. And so I go into my room, which was on the 290 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:59,559 opposite side from where my mama was and on the side that the carport was 291 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:03,599 on, and I'm looking out the windows, following him around the house to 292 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,839 make sure nothing got him. And he comes back in there and he's like, 293 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,559 there's there's nothing out there. I don't see anything at all. And 294 00:21:11,559 --> 00:21:14,359 he had a flashlight, you know, and had his gun and all that, 295 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,240 and I'm still just shaking, you know, and Mama's scared. Now 296 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,559 so he tells me, he said, go in there and call your Ain't 297 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:26,720 Overly. Now, my Ain't Overly was my mama's sister, and they had 298 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,599 all grown up in that area, and Ain't Overly was already in her probably 299 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,839 sixties at this time, so she had lived there forever and ever. And 300 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,160 so I'm in there telling her what we've just heard, roaring and growling and 301 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,319 moaning on the phone by trying to make this sound, and she said, 302 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,440 oh, honey, that's probably just miss clay Shulchi's bulls across the street from 303 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:48,599 us, you know. And Miss clay Shulchie was an older, elderly woman 304 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:52,880 lived there by herself, and she did she had, you know, her 305 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,839 husband had passed away, but she still had the bulls and the cows and 306 00:21:55,839 --> 00:21:59,279 the chickens and all that. There was a water tower over in the right 307 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:03,519 side of her past and everything. And I'm telling you, we were in 308 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:08,000 the country anyway. So that made me feel better, made my mama and 309 00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:12,759 daddy feel better, and so we slept okay well. The next days, 310 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,880 Clay Shilty was at our house because she would come and give Mama her shots 311 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,640 for pain relief, and so she was up there in the front room and 312 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,599 my daddy was in there and he calls me and to ask me come up. 313 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,400 You know, I was in the back of the house where the liver 314 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,240 room was at and he said, did we come up here and make that 315 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,119 sound that we heard last night from his clay Shilty And she's just sitting there, 316 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,920 you know, rocking in the rocket chair. And so he had already 317 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,240 told her the story, and so I'm up there roaring and moaning and growling, 318 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,519 and she's like, oh, mister Bob, I wish she hadn't told 319 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,480 me that. And he said, no, he s it's okay because overly 320 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,759 told me that it was probably alls bulls or something. And she said, 321 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:56,720 oh, no, no, mister Bob, I don't have any of my 322 00:22:56,839 --> 00:22:59,960 cows. Are my bulls over there right now? They're all up in decab 323 00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:04,160 and I don't remember what was having done. I can't remember exactly. It's 324 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,440 like they were being bred or something. But anyway, she said, there's 325 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,240 none of my bulls or cows are over there right now. And she says, 326 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,039 as a matter of fact, something's been stealing my chickens. Of course, 327 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:18,799 we didn't know anything about anything at that time. We didn't know anything 328 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:26,400 about Bigfoot. Looking back, I remember I was Daddy's girl, you know, 329 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,599 and anywhere Daddy went, I went. I helped him with everything. 330 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:36,160 He had killed a pulsum one time that was up around the house and we 331 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,000 didn't it was late in the evening, so we didn't have time to bury 332 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:41,839 it, and so he said, well, let's just go around back. 333 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,440 We'll put it in the trash can. We had, you know, a 334 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:45,359 metal trash can, and so he said, we'll put it in trash can. 335 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,119 We'll come back out in the morning, we'll bury it. And so 336 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,759 he put the lid on it, and he put a big old rock on 337 00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:53,960 top of the lid so nothing would get into it and get it. And 338 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,160 so the next day he called me and he said, come on, let's 339 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,400 go out and bury the passum. And we go out back door, and 340 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,119 you know, the trash can is still sitting there with the lid and the 341 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,400 rock and everything. So he takes the rock off, takes the lid off. 342 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,319 He said, looked at me, what'd you do? I said, 343 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,519 we talked about He said, the posum's gone, and I said, day, 344 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:18,839 I didn't get that possum. I didn't do anything with that possum. 345 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,880 He said, you serious, and I said no. And you know, 346 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,559 we had no clue what had happened, but that lid was still on it, 347 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:29,680 and that rock was still on that lid, but that possum was gone, 348 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,200 so something had to have taken that heavy. I mean it was a 349 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,720 big rock, it was, yeah, it was at least the rock was 350 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:40,359 at least like a foot all the way around foot with you know, foot 351 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,680 wide, foot high. It was a heavy rock. That was interesting. 352 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:48,920 So now looking back, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah. And 353 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,880 we would hear all sorts of stuff. We'd hear high pitched screens. When 354 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,920 we first moved there, I was a lot younger, but there was a 355 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,480 railroad track on the other side of that water tower, and we used to 356 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:04,599 hear screams and it sounded like a woman's screaming, and so of course Ain't 357 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:07,480 over We lived there, and we'd always call ain't ovally anytime we didn't know 358 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:11,480 what was going on. And she said, no, we thought it was 359 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,079 a little lady that lived in that little pothouse by the water tower getting beat 360 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,119 up or something. And she's like, oh no, no, that's that 361 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,920 black panther that walks up and down the railroad tracks, and so that's just 362 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,640 what I always thought, you know, that was. And it may have 363 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,400 been a panther for all I know, but yeah, there was lots of 364 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,680 strange things going on around there, and that wasn't really the catalyst that got 365 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,359 you interested. You just reflect back on math and you you put those things 366 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,160 together, right right, Yeah, I mean, because I just love that. 367 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,400 I don't It's not the craziest story in the world. That's not the 368 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,279 most action pack. But she told me that story, like what three years 369 00:25:52,319 --> 00:26:00,519 ago, would you ever retaill that? And she goes, and I haven't 370 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,680 really seen her much or I had an opportunity to do it. It's just 371 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,880 so cool, you know, looking back. And I remember too, I 372 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:14,160 dated a guy from Foreman, Arkansas, and I was but I've always been 373 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,480 interested in like the Fount Monster. I just didn't know what it was, 374 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,960 you know. We knew that there was supposed to be a monster, and 375 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,039 some people called him the Boogeyman. My mama would always you know, when 376 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:27,839 she said, well you be careful going out there, you know, the 377 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:32,039 boogie Man will get you. We just thought that was the saying back then. 378 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,759 But the Fount monster. Once we started hearing about the fount Monster and 379 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:40,960 stuff, and then the movie was made about Boggy Creek. We thought, 380 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,000 okay, even though Mama and Daddy is telling us it's not real, when 381 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,400 you start having people in the area talking about it, you know, you 382 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:55,640 listen to that stuff. A guy I dated was from Foreman, Arkansas, 383 00:26:56,319 --> 00:27:02,119 and he had said that him and his daddy would go hunting and Foreman and 384 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,200 that's not too far from falc either, you know. He said that he 385 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:11,640 remembers one time that they were they were coming out of the woods. They 386 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,200 had parked alongside of the road and there was a big pasture out there, 387 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,839 and then the pasture was lined with trees and stuff. And he said that 388 00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:22,680 we're sitting in the front yard of my house in the car talking about this, 389 00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:27,480 and because I had told him about what I had heard, you know, 390 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,160 you know, a couple of years earlier, because I was dating him 391 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:36,160 when I was sixteen and he was seventeen, and so we're talking about stuff, 392 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,599 and I was telling him about what I had heard when I was fourteen 393 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,559 everything, and so he starts telling me this and he said, well, 394 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:45,319 you know, we were loading up the truck putting our guns and stuff in 395 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,680 there, and my daddy was kept staring across the pasture and he goes, 396 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,960 and I looked over there, and I said, he said, what are 397 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,440 you looking at? And he goes, do you see that that creature? 398 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,759 And he said there was an upright creature walking along the tree line on the 399 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:03,519 backside of the pasture and went into the woods. And I remember but while 400 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:04,599 he was telling me that, I was like, do you think it could 401 00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:08,160 have been a fout monster? And he slung his car door up and went 402 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:14,200 like he was being pulled out of the car, and I screamed bloody Murdier 403 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,839 and my daddy came out on the front porch to see what was going on. 404 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:25,240 But what's funny is we're Facebook friends on you know now on Facebook. 405 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:30,480 And he had been living in North Carolina and him and his family were going 406 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:34,160 to move back to Arkansas, but they found a cattle farm in Oklahoma, 407 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:40,039 so they were living in Oklahoma now. And I'll post stuff on my Facebook 408 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:44,720 sometimes my personal Facebook about Bigfoot, and then I shared the show and stuff, 409 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:48,319 and then I'll delete it after I've shared it and stuff. But anyway, 410 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,440 so he was seeing Bigfoot stuff and so he messaged me after he moved 411 00:28:53,440 --> 00:29:00,480 to Oklahoma and where he's living now is not far from where we recorded with 412 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:04,960 Gibbish what we call Tribulation Bab. So he started asking me questions, well 413 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,160 does big Say do this? And do they do that? And do they 414 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,559 do this? And so I'm finally I said, why are you asking me 415 00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:15,920 all this stuff? And he said, well, my daughter's dating a guy. 416 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:21,039 And he said that he's been hearing some weird stuff and he's describing all 417 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:26,279 this stuff. And I'm like, that sounds really interested Todd. And he 418 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:27,519 goes, well, do you think it could be big Foot? And I 419 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,880 said, I think he could. I don't know if it is, but 420 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,480 I think it could. And I said, I said, where does where 421 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,640 does he live? And he's he was telling me, and so I'm pulling 422 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,200 up Google Maps. He said he lives just like three miles from me, 423 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,400 and so he's telling me where he lives. I said, can you just 424 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,839 send me a pen? You know on Google Maps it was like five miles 425 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,519 from Tribulation Bay who were recorded, And I told him, I said, 426 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,160 I said, you don't want to hear what he's going to tell you. 427 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,279 And he's like what And I said, your house is real close to this, 428 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,559 and he's like yeah, And I said, let me send you a 429 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,200 link, and so I sent him the link that carry Arnold did on Sisters 430 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,720 of the Moon. When we're talking about all that, I said, I 431 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,920 said, you're going to hear a story where we recorded gibberish and had a 432 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,200 lot of activity. I said, that's about five miles from your y'all spar 433 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,880 and he was like yeah. So now he's all the time sending me stuff. 434 00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:26,039 But it's pretty cool.