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Yah, Welcome weeves to another episode
of Jeff jeff bizarre adventure, the Cowboy

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Bebop Side Mission. I'm your host, Malsain, joined as always by the

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one, the only super ie Patch
Wolf More. It's fantastic to be here

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to talk about a top five,
maybe top three, maybe top two episode

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of Cowboy Bebop. Yes, it's
my favorite episode of the entire series,

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and then one of my least favorite
episodes of the insane. I hope we're

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talking about the same one. Oh, we gotta be. There's no way

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we've got this backwards. Yeah,
boogie woogie fing sway baby. We are

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also joined by the anime queen Lucy
James Games. You've been dubbed the queen

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now that's what they call me,
just like the British monarchy, a position

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I'm unqualified for but was born into. And Jeff Becklasso. Yeah, I'm

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most certainly here. I'm rested,
I'm relaxed, and I'm ready to talk

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about what I do think is one
of my favorite Cowboy Bebop episodes. Before

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we begin, Lucy has a question
for Jeff. Yeah, so just before

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we were recording, having a nice
little catch up and Jeff just goes,

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I'm cooking, but he turns out
he was talking about something else. He

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went on this big spiel about hey
had this amazing like story about this thing

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he likes to cook, and that
it's really funny but like the inspirational and

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like there's some like sade bits in
there as well. So I've been be

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curious to hear it. Oh that
feels bad. That feels That feels bad

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when someone just talks up a story
that never happened and then you have to

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follow it up with nothing really that
interesting. You were asking me what I

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like to cook. I'm kind of
a grill boy. I like barbecuing.

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I can do that. Okay,
what's the secret this grill? S m

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p that's it, s m peper, that's the secret all grilling. Baby.

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Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine. But I like to just just

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salt. That's it. That's fair. Garlic, and maybe maybe maybe if

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you want to like marinate chicken for
a couple of hours before it gets tken

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different, different, doesn't need it, doesn't need it. If you know

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what you're doing, I think you
need if you need to see. Okay,

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I'm gonna say something controversial. Here, Okay, if you need to

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season a steak, you bought the
wrong steak. I'm not saying. I'm

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not saying something dry, rub on
it. I'm just saying, like,

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you don't cook it butter or something. Oh that if you? I mean,

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looks most restaurants cook their steaks and
butter is Yeah, if you just

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drink steak and garlic butter at a
fancy restaurant. But if it's just me

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having having some John time, that
steak is a little salty and delicious in

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its own juices. Can we can
we go back to what? What?

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What else is happening in John Time? I'm just in, Yeah, maybe

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you got some Maybe you got some
anime on in the background, perhaps a

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professional wrestling pay per view. I
get the lights a little low. You've

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probably listened to some at least a
third of the Silent Hill two soundtrack.

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You might have a French fancy off
to the side, waiting for you and

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my fancy, Jeff, A French
fancy, a French butler that stands there

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and does everything you never had a
French fancy. Can I buy one now

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and get it delivered? How does
that work? Can you get in America?

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French Fancy. It's all I want, Jeff, I will bring you

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a box of French Fancies next time
we meet. H Okay, so are

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they cookies? Are they little cakes? The little icing and cream cream puffs?

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No, they're a small delicate sponge
cake with a buttered cream topping and

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covered in different colored fundent toppings,
then finished with the chocolate drizzle to complete.

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That's from sugar and crumbs. Dot
co dot you completion. Yeah,

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I gotta. I got a French
Fancy waiting for me after this podcast.

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And I'm like when they did the
lemon when they did the lemon ones,

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Oh my god, oh I see, I see's so good the mister Kipling

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Winter ones are where it's at is
going definitely not unbelievable, simply not a

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thing in the US, Like if
it is, it has somehow passed under

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my radar for forty years. I
don't understand how I've never heard of it.

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British, it's very it's British.
It's British and Irish. I never

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Yeah, they they gave it to
us as recompense for everything that's happens.

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It's very welcome. We're sorry you
are you are from yeah, yeah,

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okay, good, good get me. Oh I would never and you would

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never. I mean, come on, that's what we all knows think.

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Mister Kipling's French Fantasy Cakes are described
as golden sponge cakes with a vanilla topping

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eleven percent, covered with chocolate flavored
fond and icing nineteen percent, pink funded

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icing nineteen percy. What does that
mean of coverage flavor and lemon flavor funded

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icing twelve percent? Three pound Sainsbury's
Yeah, fucking fifteen dollars over here.

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I just looked. Yeah, that
lovely, Mister Kipling is amazing, But

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mister Kipling is like eight percent of
the products are very harm So grow up.

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Why do you need pigs and cake
some I'm saying, you know,

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I mean, it doesn't make sense
to leave it out. Leave it out.

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Today we are going to be talking
about two episodes, Pierre Lafou and

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Boogie Woogie Feng Shui. Unfortunately,
I was watching Pierre Lafou this morning and

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legit getting like physically excited to talk
about like a John. No, there's

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excitement, holding in his hand and
shaking no, no, no, no,

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you guys, crumbling John evenings are
very mellow affairs. They're very just.

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You might have a little glass of
whiskey off to the side, John

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John Evening. That's that's That's what
I say it throughout the entire thing,

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Jeff, it's sitting on my bond. It's me sitting on my couch showing

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I'm not going to do the voice
you're trying to do, Jeff, I'm

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going to do the voice you're doing. And so it's me sitting there going

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John John Evening Evening for John mister
Kipling Whiskey Silent Till two soundtrack. Wait,

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so like my French fancy Yeah,
but I imagine you're doing it like

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the Girl Dinner, Girl Dinner,
John even Jove, that is closer to

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the tone. How do we feel
about this episode? Let's start with the

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one, the only John Evening.
I mean, there's an arguments to be

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made that this might be the best
Cowboy Bebop episode. I wouldn't make it,

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but I wouldn't hold it against someone
for making it. It's definitely the

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coolest, Yeah, like the most
unexpected. Yeah, that's that's the thing.

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I think. Like the other My
other two Faceavorite episodes are both to

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do with Vicious and one of which
we have seen, one of which we

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have now, But this episode just
comes out of nowhere and is one of

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the most incredibly stylish and like like
such a tone switch for the entire this

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is a horror episode, just weird. It's just weird. It's all over

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the place, but like somehow sticks
the landing perfectly. Yep uh in you

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know, every episode you're like meant
to believe the like Spike is just such

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a badass that he's never gonna have
a problem facing any potential bounty. He's

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always just gonna be one step ahead
of them, And like you just are

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thrown into the idea that like mister
Spiegel has met his match and it's a

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fucking bullet proof penguin. Just like
you're like, all right, well,

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let's see what happens here during this
fucking carnival of horrors. It's great.

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It sort of reminds me of and
maybe it's on my mind because it's the

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twentieth anniversary of battlestog Actica, and
I'm pretty sure I've made this comparison before.

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But then there are these some episodes
of Beabup where there's just like so

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much more money been spent on animation
and shit, every single frame of it

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looks cool as shit. And this
is definitely one of those episodes in Battlestar

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they'll be like these bottle episodes where
nothing happens, and then the next episode

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you will have Cylon fight the whole
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You feel like it is very clear
they brought someone in specifically to do

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the animation on Pierre Lafu, Like
the way he moves is insane. He

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floats like I don't know why he
floats, but he does. He's he's

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nearly supernatural. Yeah, definitely is
like it's so weird. It reminds me

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of a There's mission for E three. I think it is just called Shining

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Lights, even in death where for
some reason, like randomly, it pivots

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into survival horror in this one mission
whey, or like in a a wing

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of Mother Base where like it's been
infected by a virus and all your soldiers

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are like dying and screaming and you
have to kill them one by that's my

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favorite bit of Yeah, yeah,
it's one of my favorites. And it's

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just like why is this happening?
And then you go back to normal and

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it's fine. That was weird.
Yeah, you're like, okay, I

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guess weird. Go on. I
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things going on as well, Like
I think the little subtle bits between Fay

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and Spike are very telling. Yes, this is Yeah, it's laying some

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groundwork in a way that is really
interesting for la. Yeah. The episode

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begins with someone's gonna say something there, Who's gonna say something there? No,

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I just sort of realized I was
being dropped a hint about something,

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and my ears perked up. And
sometimes when that happens, I make a

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noise like, oh, okay,
the episode begins. Uh. This recap

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is taken from the Cowboy Bebop fandom
wiki. Thank you to everyone who has

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contributed and maintains that wiki. It
makes my life considerably easier. Episode begins.

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We have a mysterious figure on Mars
is like lingering in the night sky,

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and it descends on a group of
very unsuspected men and kills them.

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This strange man guns down a bunch
of the gods and kills the leading man,

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and it's a rather brutal attack and
he's very very creepy. Meanwhile,

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I love the design of him,
he's so unsettling, Like you know that

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one bit right here where it just
goes does a close up of a smile,

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and he just grinds his teeth.
If he was such a grinder,

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they wouldn't be so perfectly straight,
right. No, in fairness to Jeff,

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he I think he does do a
full on front teeth grind, which

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is unhinged. It depends if you
have like an over bite, because like

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my teeth, when I close them, they don't like naturally come together.

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My top ones go over the bottom
ones, and I can grind my teeth

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while having the teeth properly like interlocked
into linked. Yeah, I'm going to

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see my agentis later this week to
help. For help, we should clarify

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that audentist is called Jen. We
don't, yeah, we don't, just

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refer to dentists as gentists in like
a weird way. Yeah. Meanwhile,

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Spike is playing pool at cel A
V and I even love this little scene

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in the pool hall. It's just
I really like it. It's it's just

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such a nothing even gets said,
and Spike beats someone and the guy has

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a real li like well that's enough
for me, And Spike's like cool,

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yeah, and he's like, uh
winning uh kind of the poor game looks

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like he's almost hustling, right,
and then he wins very easily and kind

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of like nods and then it says
leve and, which translates in French like

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that's what it is or that's how
life is. So you will you won't.

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That's how just a lot of satisfying
little pool sounds too bewitched? Is

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the song called that's you? Do
you know that they went on to do

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the soundtrack for deador Alive Extreme Beach
Volleyball What, Yeah, that's crazy.

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No, I'm thinking of the movie
that's the one that Holly Violins was in.

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It doesn't matter how I know that. By the way, it's just

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yeah, I'm okay, you've never
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John, John Evening are coming to
light here that are not meant to

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Oh boy, watch whole video of
John Evening explaining himself. No, no,

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I like having a career. So
as Spike is leaving this bar where

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he's playing pool, the man who's
just weirdly killed, everyone sees him and

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it just seems to be a chance
encounter. But he's I feel like the

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weird freak seems to mistake Spike for
someone being part of this or at the

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very least, he's killing everyone that
I've seen him. Yeah. I think

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there's a line later on where he
said when they say, like he kills

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anyone who sees his face. Yeah, So he immediately starts firing shots at

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Spike with his gun, which is
a cane gun. Badass, Spike,

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Like, where are the bullets go
at the top? Yeah, but like,

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oh, come on, don't love
it. I loved it. You

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love this episode myself. Let me
let me, let me handle him,

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let me handle them. Okay,
it's not handling me. This is just

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who I am. Yes, John, Okay, handle me, mister evening.

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Jeff, what's wrong, buddy?
Nothing's wrong. Sometimes my brain,

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let's see's like a let's see like
a candy cane Evening. I think I

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do I need a Jeff Saturday?
Is what I Those are very different things,

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disgusting. I don't need what.
You don't know what's involved in a

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Jeffrey Saturday. I know you,
and I know the kind I get.

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Jeff. Look, I am sending
you my copy of Debt or Live Extreme

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Beach Body. Okay, all right, that'll probably a mistake. Bewitched albums.

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Mystiq is coming. I'm okay.
Spike rehacts super quickly and dodges the

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shots come in his way and hides
nearby behind a garbage can and he's firing.

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This is where the moment you realize, oh, they spend some money

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on this animation because he's like diving
and firing at the same time, and

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like, oh, there was also
like hello frames in there, bro,

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And there was also like we didn't
even touch on this. There were like

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like three D fly throughs at the
start of this, right, there was

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like some there's some extra juge going
on in this budget, right. I

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really love how the scenery like just
melts around the mad pro like when he

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when he shoots something, it gets
chewed the fuck up and it makes him

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feel so dangerous, satisfying real.
Yeah, I love it. All The

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bullets have no effect on this mysterious
man's They just like stop several feet in

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front of him and as if like
there's like this weird like wave of energy

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effect. Yeah, because it's hitting
a force field and then just like negating

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the bullets. Then he like floats
towards Spike and engages in hand to hand

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combat, which is a very very
very clever thing to do because by this

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point they've properly established through through the
kind of like his backstory and also what

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we've seen that Spike is an expert
in hand to hand combat. So to

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see a character directly engage him,
you're like, oh, no, this

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is this is this is gonna be
rough. And like the way this dude

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fights is so weird and otherworldly.
He throws, he knocks Spike into the

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air and starts like guile flush kicking
him this over and over. This is

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law from Tech and free Law has
this exact combo with the flips, Like,

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Jeff, what would you do if
someone did that to you? How

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do you get out of it?
Being like juggled in the air the way

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this freaking penguin, I don't know
why I'm calling him the penguin because it

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just reminds me of like the Batman
penguin. Little. Yeah, he has

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a little DeVito to him, don't
we all? Yeah, he's got a

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he's got a I don't I don't
know. I would just like I would

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just to be like, I hope
is this over soon? That's all I

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can think of, I get thinking
like, oh, I hope Spike's okay.

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So Spike like throws some kicks and
punches at him, and this dude

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just like very casually dodges them,
then uses a launcher kick and then basically

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does laws kicks from teking. The
flips over and over while he's mid air

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and like juggles him and then lands
on. Spike lands on the ground on

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his back and looks just cooked so
badly. And then this dude he pulls

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out is a cane gun and points
at a Spike, and there's this like

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lingering moment of tension where Spike is
looking down the barrel of this very long

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gun and you can see they do
it in such a right way where he

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thinks this is it for a moment
he thinks like he doesn't say, well,

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it's just it's staged and timed so
well that that feeling just hits you

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because I felt the exact same tomorrow
and it's yeah, it's yeah, it's

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so good, And I fucking love
this bit. I love this whole episode

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though, it's amazing they reinforced this
moment and also give you insight into a

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Spike as a whole later on when
he says like, maybe this is the

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one I won't come back for,
which kind of hints that, oh,

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this guy is trying to die,
like yeah, suicidal like edge and I

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love a sad well, but yeah, bad boys are the best. I

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like a sad boy when it takes
a minute to get to it. He

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having a sad boy straight away.
He has to. He has to have

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the appearance of being happy but then
deeply be very unhappy. Although after having

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dated numerous men who do that not
in real life can confirm, oh yeah,

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anime fantastic, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, except for sake,

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he sucks. So then so he's
looking down the barrow of this gun,

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and then nearby a cat makes a
very cat like noise and it scares the

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shit out of this man and he
just like panics, He like he's he's

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He stumbles back and just like frantically
shoots in the direction of the cat noise.

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Cat is like get fucked and runs
away, And during this distraction,

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Spike springs up off screen, and
when it cuts back to him, he's

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like rolling this explosive barrow towards the
guy. That's so clever, Like of

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course, that's like something. Well, I wouldn't try it because I'm very

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slow. But that's something that someone
like Spike would figure out. Yeah,

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what that the red barrels explode.
Not that he could do it quickly.

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You'd have to have like situational awareness
to know that was there already. So

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no time, don't don't engage him. Okay, cool, No, No,

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I was having a conversation John,
but were you doing? Okay,

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you're about is. I was like, that's so clever. I'd never think

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to do that. And then Jeff
comes in and he's like, walka walker,

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Oh, super red barrelstone explode like
in every video game, and like

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just very insulting to my intelligence.
Honestly, I don't. Well, look,

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you interpreted that the way maybe you
organically interpreted interpreted that. I think

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you can't outrun an explosion in the
way that they implied in this, like

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they zoom out from like space and
you see a city block fucking get obliterated.

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And to be fair, the insert
shout of Spike running away from the

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explosion is pretty awesome too, because
it's like just nipping at his butt.

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I'm speaking to the audience, do
you guys know that John Luke has to

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constantly cut out these intersections where Jeff
just goes you guys know, we're looking

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at drawings right like nothing's actually happening, and it's like every episode and we're

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like, yeah, Jeff, yep, we know it's less, it's less.

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Uh. The fact that I can't
process that this is fiction and I

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like is the Neil Degrass Tyson of
anime. Everything stufforious, getting them,

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getting getting You didn't have to ruin
gravity though that movie was already not that

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good. But I know I'm okay
with suspending my disbelief. In fact,

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I love doing nothing else more than
suspending my disbelief. It's totally fun this,

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I think. I think, Uh, the root of this is that

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the way I like to have fun
with anime is by speaking like that.

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If that makes If that's fair,
we can all do that. That's fair.

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Conversation at dinner the other night about
your you'll go to dinner, what

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are you talking about? Shut up? We hung out for a whole week.

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We literally had dinner the other night
where you were talking where you were

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talking about the fact that your son
knows Santa doesn't exist anymore. And now

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a lot is really coming into place
with that je other people. Oh my

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god, that's actually no, it's
way more the latter than the former.

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Yeah, Jeffy, you better be
pausing Alan wake to every like twenty minutes

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and being like, well, now
wait a minute, I cannot do that.

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It's funny because I have no problem
with the all factual events that transpire

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that video game. No, but
you just made me have a bit of

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an aha moment with this san Oh
no, I'm so far from the tree

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at all. I'm sorry, like
I don't know what. No, God,

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oh god, all right, Wednesday, I can talk about this.

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Okay, very good, Okay.
Cool. So he rolls up this propane

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tank right in front of the man, shoots it, and it causes a

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massive explosion, which gives Spike enough
time to disappear, But it doesn't look

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like he's like. They don't show
him like being like, ha I got

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away. They just show a massive
explosion and then you presume that he he

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survived, but it's not one hundred
percent clear. Spike makes it out,

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and so does the weird dude who
he gets like smashed up against the walls,

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which is pretty funny. The dude
is like just seems like he's untouched,

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so wait is this no? And
then he gets like a knife at

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him, like a dagger at he's
untouched, and he appears he throws this

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dagger at him and then he like
does his the merchant resident evil, what

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you're buying or got a collection of
good things? And say stranger, it's

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just like opens his coat and it's
just full of crazy weaponry and again,

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we could dance all night, baby, let's go. Yeah, so that's

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when you learn that, oh,
this guy is a super freak. He's

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a killing machine. So Spike begins
to escape towards the river and and the

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mysterious man just starts lobbing grenades at
him through using a grenade launch at there's

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a huge explosion and then we don't
see what happens. The man disappears into

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the night, and the next day
we cut to Jet and his friend Bob.

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Even the way the mad Piro like
his shadow doesn't like slip off.

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It just fades screen and yeah,
I love that. Yeah, that's a

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really nice moment. So Jet is
talking to Bob and the chatting about the

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incident that happened involving Spike, and
he's like, your friend got himself.

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Your partner got himself into some real
bad trouble and you need to get away

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from this. Don't get involved because
you might end up getting me in trouble.

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So if you could just back over
one second, this is I I

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thought this when I was watching this
episode. Spike only comes into contact with

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this guy by chance, Like that's
it, just because he left the pool

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hall just like place, wrong time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

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I can see why you were thinking
about it that it might be like

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something scripted as well. Though.
But Bob tells uh Jet that the man

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that count was called mad Piero and
he's basically hunting down high level ISSP directors.

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Obviously is sp is a organization that
Jet belonged to law enforcement? That's

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the right one, isn't it,
ye judge the copy a cop. Yeah,

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so, and they don't want the
ice. Peed doesn't want to know

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that these people are being off.
So that's the background on what's going on.

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Cut to the Bebop and Spiker is
on the couch covered in bandages and

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the face like, oh, we've
got a mummy on board. She's been

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real shitty to him. He's like
she's just a knee slapper. She's eating

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orange. Yeah, so orange is
something. Yeah, oranges are like whenever

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you go when you think it happens
like an animes, I'm sure it's It's

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a kind of like thing in other
kind of fiction as well. But like

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whenever you see a character going to
hospital, they usually bringing him an orange,

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So the expectation is like she's taking
care of him, but then she

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starts peeling the orange and eating him, so it's like she's just being shitty

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to him. That would look would
okay? John? Wait? I look,

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I just forgot. It's not John. Okay, it's a family program.

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Maybe you just keep your diamond.
I think you mean Johnny Evening.

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Thank you to your John. Time
is a very specific part of John Evening.

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Yeah, yeah, okay, gotcha, I got you, guys,

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I get it. It's the main
event of John Evening. John's the finale.

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Is there is there a like a
or a giant bomber? Can I

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know? No, I I am
HR. We you have a problem that

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that explains a few thinks. Okay. Indeed, for the clarification, we

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do have an HR department, Yes
we do, we do. Okay,

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could you send me their contacts after
this please absolutely, they don't have jurisdiction

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in this international podcast. I'm sorry. So Spike is talking away but you

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can't hear him, just kind of
like mumbling through it and face. Yeah,

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exactly like a grown up in Peanuts. Yeah, and the phase like,

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well, you keep getting some trouble, nobody can to help you.

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She also calls she also is like
taking the piss out of the way.

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He looks a little bit as well, which is, yeah, she's she's

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you know, she's kind of look, she's a shitty person right now.

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Hot, but she's hot. Yeah, that's she's hot. But that doesn't

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give you an excuse to be shitty. I mean, look, sometimes it

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does. I mean I feel like
a lot of how people get away with

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being pretty shitty. Jeff, Yeah, they're in the bubble. Yeah.

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Bob is explaining again that Mad Pierro
was the seventh person to be involved in

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experiments in order to create the ultimate
killing machine, and yeah, they they

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and he. Bob also reveals that
Spike is currently the only known person to

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survive and encounter with Mad Pierro.
Bob Live, Bob Live, No,

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I mean we can. When we
were owned by CBS. What was his

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name. You used to have these
like monthly town halls, but instead of

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just being like CBS interactive town hall, it was called Bob Live or caps

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see him Live, hanging on.
I went to one of those, and

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it'll say, fucking cluster. I'm
never coming to see Bob Live again.

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I preferred our the one, the
town hall that we went to where the

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guy was drunk. He got fire
directly after the thing. Whoa, this

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was years ago. This is not
a random who was that. He was

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the guy from I T who was
like setting up in the auditorium. He

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tried to do his time and it
was catastrophic. It was like Crown.

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It was sexist, everything possible,
and like we found out about it.

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By the time we got like enough
information on what had happened, he was

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already gone. He was like deactivated
slack. He was just gone. He

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got back and that man was Matt
Rife. Oh nice that, I'm yeah,

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yeah, nice job, John,
Thank you, Jim, thanks for

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congratulating my joke. Mister Evening,
well played. Matt Pierrot is shown like

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he's like leaving and he's got that
smile of that creepy smile that he does

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with his teeth bearing, and we
also learned that his name is tongue Poo,

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which when you say it out like
tongue Poo, it doesn't sound very

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like threatening Gary, but when they
say it, it's really it is kind

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of they give it a real like
tongue oh ship. Yeah. Edward meanwhile,

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receives an email saying that Spike is
invited to a party and that's being

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held in the theme park Spaceland phase
the one that finds it, and she's

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like to Edward, don't tell Spike
about this, but Spike is behind them,

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and he's like, because Spike will
just run straight into it, right,

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So that's why they were I kind
of got the feeling that it seemed

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like Fay was trying to go herself. Yeah, but I heard the word

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lunkhead used so many times in such
a short period of time. Yeah,

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everyone calls him the lunkhead. Fay
finds out that. Yeah, so they

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find he finds out from Fay and
he kind of jokes like this is the

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one I may not come back from. And then he says, like,

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just kidding, and then she's and
he's like, if I got into trouble,

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would you come rescue me? To
Faye, and Faye doesn't really say

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anything, just calls him a lunkhead. It's pretty rare. Faye is like

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left without an answer. Yeah,
yeah, it's true. Also a rare

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showing of emotion seems genuine from her
as well. Yeah, that's but that's

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kind of what I was saying earlier. Like one of the things I like

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about this episode is I think like
it's the first time you really see Fay

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show like genuine concern towards Spike except
for the Orange. Yeah exactly. Yeah,

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She's like, I'm gonna put garbage
on your head, but also I

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care if you die or not.
That's that's just the perfect partner. Yeah,

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it's like they're they're gonna be there
for the big ship. Orange is

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who cares insane clown men. That's
where it matters. After that, jet

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Jet pops up and asks Ed to
do him a favor. Spike arrives at

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Spaceland and tries to you know,
get around, and he's clearly still wounded,

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but he encounters Tong Pu, who
lights up the park and declares that

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the party then immediately starts the firefight, and he's like firing at Spike.

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Can can we talk about how fucking
amaze in spacelanders, Yeah, like,

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what is happening like out of where? Out of fictional theme parks? This

403
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:15.679
place is incredible. Yeah, it
looks awesome. Where is it is Mars?

404
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:19.360
Is it? Well? Is it
Mars? Or is it space?

405
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:27.400
Well it's a space theme? Where
is Where is Mars? Jeff? Uh?

406
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.519
Many millions of years? Or where
where is? Different? We're in

407
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:37.480
outer space right now, I'm aware
we're I'm playing a little more, a

408
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:45.519
little more locally. We're on the
planet Earth. So you can't say if

409
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.280
you can't say if Spaceland is on
Mars, you can't just say it's in

410
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.280
space. My foot down once again
about technically. Have you ever been on

411
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:57.719
the right space mountain? Yes,
very recently. I bet you you were

412
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:07.039
great to be on that with you
know, you know you could you imagine

413
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.079
things like clicking up the chains all
the way up and I'm just like,

414
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:17.480
well, this is It's gonna take
a lot longer to get space. How

415
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.480
it's still Earth's gravity. That's how
this whole right works. In fact,

416
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.159
that's not who I am. Come
on, you and your son the same

417
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:35.000
person. Wait a minute, Wait
a minute, you tam Lucy, you're

418
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.119
telling me this whole week we spent
together, you have fun, have fun,

419
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.480
have any fun. But I don't
pick anything apart and right, John,

420
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:47.679
a year ago, you and me, we have fun. Right,

421
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.679
we had a lot of fun,
had fun. Jeff is asking that with

422
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:58.920
the tone of I need this please, yeah, maybe not. Look,

423
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:00.440
I'll say a lot of things with
Jeff. I'm not going to pretend isn't

424
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:07.000
a delight to be around it?
Likewise Likewise, So the fight is happening,

425
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:12.639
and there's like a chase happening between
them and the amusement park. Masp

426
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:16.440
Scots are like just stomping around in
the background, which is awesome. Tong

427
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.760
Poo clearly knows how the park is
laid out, and he arrives on a

428
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:25.400
penguin car, which I guess justifies
Jeff's comparison to the penguin. Those penguin

429
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:32.440
carts horrifying. Oh yeah, awful, enjoy they move so fast. He's

430
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.599
firing rockets at Spike. Meanwhile,
Jet is telling Ed to hack the mainframe

431
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:44.679
of the ISSP, specifically section thirteen, which is not in public knowledge,

432
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:50.239
and Ed gets the work. Spike
is continuing to be chased by Tong Pou

433
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:57.880
and he's shooting at him and he's
hoping that basically can draw the power out

434
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.280
of the force field and like where
it down. Along the way, Spike

435
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:08.559
finds another mascot and it's like constantly
shoving these weird creatures in the into his

436
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.639
face. It's really funny. He
like beats it up for some reason.

437
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.119
I love. I love just how
he spends a little too long beating this

438
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.920
thing. Oh yeah, yeah,
that's pretty good. Like he fucks it

439
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.880
up. Yeah, And it's just
long enough to for like a Peter to

440
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:30.079
be to catch up and it falls
into a roller coaster I think. Tong

441
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:36.280
pu then intercepts him via another roller
coaster, grabs him by the neck with

442
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.440
a like a whip thing, and
then tosses him back onto the track,

443
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:43.000
which it's like, yo, he
does that too. He's a master whipsman.

444
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:47.079
He's a killing machine. He's trained
to it. He then throws a

445
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:52.119
bomb at him in the cart and
and then Spike falls into the river below.

446
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:59.480
Ed then accesses the information and they
learn about an assassination skills enhancement experiment

447
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.440
in which an individual named Tong Poo, which is his code name, was

448
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.199
experimented on both genetically and physically.
This is a really unsettling moment. It

449
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:14.440
kind of reminds me of like the
testing sections from Akira. It's really cool,

450
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.679
though. I think this moment,
like to me, kind of just

451
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:22.599
ties the whole episode together. Sure, Like I like, I love the

452
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:29.559
weird shift in tone and like the
kind of context that gives tongue pou this

453
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:34.199
is. I think this was like
my first time ever hearing like weird ambient

454
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:38.000
techno when I was a kid,
and that would go on to become my

455
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:45.440
favorite kind of music. The music
in this flashback is fucking awesome. It's

456
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:47.519
like since, like Jeff, since
I was a kid, I have,

457
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.239
like, I would have always looked
for music like this because it's so good.

458
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.360
There's something about it. Did I
ever tell you guys? I'm filled

459
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:04.639
with regret now I having seen this
five years ago that it's true it's like

460
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.119
this. I know it's never mentioned
it I will hear for the first time

461
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.800
no, oh my god. Like
and I also think, like, man,

462
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:20.480
you could have a real tough time
inserting that very specific exposition in most

463
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.280
other sort of shows where you like
can't always get away with like doing something

464
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:30.000
like that, but it is like
the surgically perfect moment and started in and

465
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.280
it is like, oh the way
it all ties together, and especially at

466
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.079
the end of this oh a bit, where like the music is like building,

467
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.400
building, building, building, building, building, building, and then

468
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:46.320
they're leading him down the hallway and
he's completely brain dead and next thing he

469
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:53.000
just stops and that's where the just
little the little music drops an It's so

470
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:59.000
it's perfect. I don't know how
I'll describe it. It's it's fucking incredible.

471
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.199
I also really really appreciate the framing
of it at that point and the

472
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:07.480
perspective, especially because they have Tong
Pu or his whatever you want to call

473
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:13.119
him, Pierre. He's always like
on his knees or sitting down and there

474
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.280
the perspective when they show him is
always from above looking down, so he

475
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:22.119
looks like he's subservient. And then
when when they cut behind him, these

476
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.960
scientists are always like leering over him, so it creates this sense of sympathy

477
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.159
for him. He looks kind of
like he's like being You can tell he's

478
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:35.239
there against his will. We don't
know what he did to get to that

479
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.320
point. Is he just a random
that they grabbed or is he someone like

480
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.400
they got out of like a prison
colony or something like that. But I

481
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:44.400
remember the first time, and it
happened when I rewatched it. When I

482
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.679
saw him, I was like there
was like a pang of like sympathy for

483
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.639
him in that moment. Yeah,
it's And it's the same when they're leading

484
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:52.440
him by the handcuffs and you're like, oh man, they're just going to

485
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:58.039
lock him away forever. So when
that and then it completely shifts when the

486
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.599
smile slowly appears on his face and
you realize, oh, this is they're

487
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:05.719
about to, you know, reap
what they saw because this is what they

488
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.920
created now they have to suffer for
it. Such a good moment. Perfect

489
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:13.639
And it's so short as well.
Yeah yeah, I mean I feel that

490
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:15.800
way about this whole episode. I
felt like this this episode is like five

491
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:21.119
minutes long. Yeah. Yeah,
I've probably seen it at this point,

492
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.320
I'd say, like a dozen times, because this is this is the one

493
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:27.679
I rewatched the most. Yeah.
Same, I think it's a perfect episode.

494
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.880
The experiment is so while this is
happening and he's like being experimented on,

495
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:36.599
there's this cat nearby that has got
like two different color eyes. One

496
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.400
of them is like blackish and like
looks almost infected. But like this cat

497
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.880
is just staring at Tong Poo the
entire time. It's happening like in a

498
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.800
weird way, and it almost looks
like the cat's been experimented on it as

499
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:57.440
well. The experiment is then canceled
because Tong Poo is like his mind is

500
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.440
regressing constantly, and they decided to
put him in isolation and quarantine him forever.

501
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:07.119
They call him insane, and as
they're leading him towards like the cell,

502
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.400
the smile appears and he just goes
on a rampage where he kills everyone

503
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:15.320
for revenge. But it doesn't stop
there, and they point out that once

504
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:20.480
he had had revenge, he had
regressed to the point where he was just

505
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:24.679
enjoying killing, so he carried on
he had the hunger. Yeah, so

506
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:30.079
Jack reads Jet says that the experiment
caused him to regress into the personality of

507
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:37.320
a child, and he's a child
with essentially superpowers, and then he says

508
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.760
like this, there's nothing as cruel
and purely cruel as a child that that

509
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:45.800
that line has been in my brain
for years. Yeah, yeah, and

510
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.440
it's so true. Like if you're
imagine, well, imagine like there's a

511
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.079
kid out there and you they don't
get told this is bad the first time

512
00:42:53.119 --> 00:43:00.199
they do something bad like it.
It's that crazy. It's the paradoxical argument.

513
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:07.039
Yes, in our people inherently evil. I think children have it in

514
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:14.400
them to be very very cruel a
dickheads, man, they can, but

515
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:19.360
it's they're not dickheads I think until
like a little later, unless unless you

516
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:24.679
get like one who thinks Christmas is
not real. No, no, like

517
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:29.840
genuinely, if you you think about, like in history, there have been

518
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:36.719
children who have been legitimately evil.
Of course they're not just because they're too

519
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.079
young. Of course, for a
period of time, I was a teacher's

520
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:45.280
assistant, and like there were some
kids in the class that I had charge

521
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.519
of that I saw them. There
was one in particular that I remember,

522
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.000
and I was like, this kid
is going to be a maniac when he

523
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.320
grows up. I know it.
And he had like a a spiteful edge

524
00:43:55.360 --> 00:44:00.400
to him, like and he would
like literally like that everyone's sitting down and

525
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:05.039
he's like just tipping tables over and
like screaming. And I was like,

526
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.639
this, this kid is doomed.
There were kids in my school that would

527
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:12.960
like stab you with compasses and whatever
and like do that whole ship. So

528
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.840
I think that happens later. I
think I think every one and a half

529
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:22.480
year old on the planet is organically
uh no good. I think they just

530
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:29.320
they just don't have the physical capability
to commit evil. Yeah, Jeff,

531
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.559
they're thinking about it. Yeah.
No. Look, look, I will

532
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:35.199
be the first to admit that we
should, you know, just put all

533
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.079
all babies in jail. Yeah,
I mean a crib essentially is a jail.

534
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:44.599
Jail already did jail? Let them
let him out when they're thirty,

535
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:49.159
and then we can start educating them, and then finally, aside a decent

536
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.440
society we will have. I don't
give them a Twitter account, you know,

537
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.639
No, don't even tell them about
Twitter. Don't show them the Internet.

538
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:00.840
There was something like, in all
seriousness, like much as I am

539
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.760
the pessimist, there was something like
wildly dark about that phrase too, where

540
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:10.079
it was like said so definitively,
like you know, because all children are

541
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:15.039
the worst. Like I thought,
that was just very interesting. I'm not

542
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:20.239
mad at it when I heard I
feel what it's saying, man, Jeff,

543
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.880
No, no, I think that's
such. I think it's a genuinely

544
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.559
like powerful But I also think it's
not about shallow. It's not about the

545
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.880
evil of children. I think it's
about the innocence of children, and that

546
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:37.119
innocence lets them be cruel because they
don't know what they're doing. Yeah,

547
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.679
maybe we're just like we're at an
imbalance when we're just like me, I'm

548
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.440
like thinking, like, Okay,
what age are we talking? Because I

549
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:49.280
agree that you as a person,
I think all humans from the age of

550
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:53.119
like, I'm gonna go ahead and
say ten to twenty three are the worst

551
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:59.400
people on earth. Like, empirically, I've never met a good seventeen year

552
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:05.559
old because they're all evil and selfish
and shitty. H So that's that's where

553
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:09.679
I'm coming from. I think a
child I was, I was just like

554
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.480
the quiet seventeen year old said,
Okay, oh I sucked. I sucked.

555
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:21.480
If John knows it, I was
abhorrent. I just think, like,

556
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:24.800
you know, that's where I'm coming
from. I don't disagree with the

557
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:29.360
spirit of the statement. I laughed
because I think it is just like a

558
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.920
funny sentence on its face of like, because as you know, all toddlers

559
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.519
are serial killers that can't lift a
gun because it's too heavy. That is

560
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:43.840
what he said. All right,
then we have it. Jack back laws

561
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.679
suck the fun out of another anime
moment. No come, you know,

562
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.079
at the end of it, it
really is more like a six out of

563
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.800
ten, isn't it. No,
it's a it's a fucking banger. It's

564
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.639
five out of five, a plus
plus. And I love the fact that

565
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:02.400
they just fucking kill this guy with
a big old like parade, like what

566
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.760
get ahead of the gun here the
cane gun. Spike swims the shore where

567
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.840
he's a great whare. He's greeted
by Tongpoo is like his showtime, and

568
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:16.719
shoots him with rockets. Spike escapes
when a couple of rockets strike near Tompoo,

569
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:20.480
and that is kind of the sign
that phase arrived in the Redtail,

570
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:22.440
and Spike's like, oh god,
damn it. Now I've got a fade

571
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:28.400
randomly shooting in my direction as well. Tong Poo is dodging and like he

572
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.719
shoots the ship down. The explosion
sends a Spike crashing into like a gift

573
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:37.199
shop, but Fey lands pretty safely, but it's knocked out Tong Pu.

574
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.960
Tong Poo approaches Spike and tells him
to prepare to die, and then a

575
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.960
toy cat falls from a shelf and
starts meowing, and once again a cat

576
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:50.480
freaks out Tong Poo. He shoots
it to pieces, but a Spike again

577
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:54.880
escapes and fires at Tong Poo,
but Tong Poo is like a sharp shooter

578
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:59.480
and just shoots the gun out of
his hand, and at moment we have

579
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:04.719
that same moment again where their Spike
is staring at Tong Poo. Tong Poo's

580
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.320
his gone prime to kill Spike,
Spike is reaching behind his belt to grab

581
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:15.039
a knife, and in between them, the parade is slowly approaching. As

582
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.760
the parade is approaching, a light
from the kind of like fair ground area

583
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:24.480
or even the parade itself flashes and
it hits Spike's eye in a way that

584
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:29.519
it like lights one up so the
other one is dark, and it causes

585
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.599
Tong Poo to remember the eyes of
the cat in the lab that was watching

586
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:37.239
him being experimented on. Oh I
never picked that up. Yes, that's

587
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.360
why it seems to happen. Oh
yeah, that's really interesting. It's crazy.

588
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.199
It's just yeah, I'm sorry.
I just really love that. I

589
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:49.599
thought, like they just they they
did everything so quickly too, like do

590
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.599
you know what I mean? And
I think that is very impressive. Yeah,

591
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.159
it's a really cool moment, and
it causes him to like freak out

592
00:48:55.679 --> 00:49:00.360
just long enough for Spike to quickly
grab the knife, throw it and dive.

593
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.199
Tong Poo is shooting at the same
time, and it hits Spike,

594
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.320
so he gets a bullet in the
leg. I think, oh no,

595
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:09.239
he gets hit in the chest,
whereas the knife hits Tong Pou in the

596
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:15.280
leg. It's not a serious injury
at all. But that's the moment where

597
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.880
you realize, oh, he really
is just a child. He like takes

598
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.159
a small hit, falls over and
just starts crying and calling for his mum.

599
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:29.079
It's really pathetic in a way that
makes me feel for the character a

600
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.360
little bit. I think at that
moment it kind of pays off the flashback

601
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.679
where you're you know, constantly looking
down on him and he's sympathetic, and

602
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:39.639
you realize, oh shit, this
is this is evoking that again to be

603
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:44.159
like this sucks, man, I
don't this is something that happened against his

604
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.400
will and now he's gonna pay the
price for it and traumatized by cats.

605
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:52.599
Who can't relate with that. Shut
up, Well all of us can't relate

606
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.800
with that. What are you talking
about here? I'm saying, if you

607
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.800
were as allergic as I am,
you'd sympathetze. Now you're allergic to cats,

608
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:07.599
Jeff? Oh fuck? Hang on? Do you mean like emotionally allergic?

609
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:13.239
Jeff? Both everything? Uh,
it just makes they make Yeah,

610
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:17.320
I sneeze a lot around them and
therefore hate them. I thought this was

611
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:22.559
like an intellectual thing. No,
it's that too. It's it's everything.

612
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:27.119
The allergies are just the icing on
the cake. Does not add up to

613
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.840
me. I feel like I feel
like I feel like cats make you sneeze,

614
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:32.320
so you can't get close to them, and so you see their rad

615
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:36.559
you see how cool they are,
and now you're just like, Okay,

616
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.639
I'm gonna pretend not to like them. Yeah, I'm just saying. A

617
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:46.239
Giant Bomb's Game of the Year,
someone brought their pet dog who was friendly,

618
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:52.360
loving and just an all around team
member. Not sure you could bring

619
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.599
a cat. Cat would stay in
a corner and fall asleep immediately and would

620
00:50:55.679 --> 00:51:00.400
just chill. But you know the
dog was helping, Like the dog made

621
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:06.000
the show better. Okay, okay, okay, all right, No,

622
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:08.800
look you're your silence proves my point. Now we're just letting you talk yourself

623
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.159
into you just never forget. You
just make tired Jeff. As always,

624
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.840
that was the worst thing anyone's ever
said to me. Wait what did you

625
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.719
say? John? That was the
worst? You just make me tired,

626
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:30.239
Jeff? Like I could not especially
coming from you. It's just like John,

627
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:34.039
he likes you the most. Okay, so you say that to him?

628
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.960
Is that one's stung? How am
I going to earn back his respect?

629
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:40.880
All right? Sorry? Next episode
will try. As tong Poo is

630
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.840
lying on the ground calling for his
mom, the parade approaches and one of

631
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:52.800
the bigger animals in the parade steps
on tongue Pou, killing him. Jet

632
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:57.320
calls Spike at that moment. He's
like, Jet, we figured out what

633
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.079
this guy is. And Spike's like, I don't need to know. I

634
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.719
don't need the information anymore, and
then he's like, I hate I don't

635
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:12.239
need to know. A big old
boos like a dog stepped on story tall

636
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.239
dog stepped on him. Yeah,
he's which is? Which is? Crazy

637
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:22.880
that, like, that's the kind
of parade at Spaceland, right, Like

638
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.599
it's possible you just get in the
way of that parade and get flatted to

639
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:29.360
death. Don't don't get in the
way. I guess. So. I

640
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:31.880
feel like if you got in the
way of any parade at Disneyland, you'll

641
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:36.559
probably get hurt pretty bad. Yeah, I guess you're right. You don't

642
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:37.280
think they would stop. You don't
think they would be like, oh,

643
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.159
there's there's like a penguin on the
ground that. I don't think they cook

644
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:43.320
around and Disney. I think they're
like, you knew what you were getting

645
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:49.719
into. Motherfucker, you crossed the
barrier. Next thing, Pluto's fucking boot

646
00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:53.719
is going up your ass. Wow, Okay, and then you die.

647
00:52:53.920 --> 00:53:00.320
Yeah, I'm sorry, Goofy's boot. Pluto doesn't wear boots. No,

648
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.039
Yeah, come on, let's let's
get it right here. I suspended my

649
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:15.440
disbelief for that. Don't worry about
The next episode is Bogi feng Shui,

650
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:22.599
which I didn't hate. This didn't
like we have spent an hour talking about

651
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:27.840
what episodes, so we should you
know, Look, I think this episode

652
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.880
is like most I don't know.
I thought that like Sun Dial thing was

653
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:37.480
kind of cool. But yeah,
okay, blas, Okay, I have

654
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.840
one thing to say. It's this
episode. I feel like this episode is

655
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.920
probably my least favorite episode in the
entire show yep, and I think that

656
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:50.000
it would be more. I don't
think it's bad, Like there's not there

657
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.320
are no bad episodes of Caboy beab
Up. I think this is just this

658
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:57.199
is the bottom of the weeks,
and to me, a part of it

659
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:02.039
is it's because it comes way too
late in the series. I feel like

660
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:06.920
for Jet. Yeah, because because
it's like, if you think of Jets

661
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.320
two other episodes, the one with
with his ex and then the one with

662
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:15.519
his ex partner, and on both
those we learned things about Jet, like

663
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:19.280
on a really like deep emotional level, about who the guy is and how

664
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:23.199
he ticks. And this is just
him kind of pissing around with a teenage

665
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:27.800
girl or something. Yeah, yeah, that's the part of it. I

666
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:30.239
also don't I didn't like, I
didn't like any of that, Like,

667
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.599
no, really, we're not digging
into the age and love thing like so

668
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.840
much, where I was just like, all right, maybe once I could

669
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.360
like look the other way at your
twenty five year old joke, but then

670
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:45.039
I don't know. I'm with you. That part was strange. They didn't

671
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:49.719
need to make a meal out of
that, and they did up Agains on

672
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:53.239
Mars, where Jet is trying to
track down an old acquaintance called Poo poos

673
00:54:53.400 --> 00:55:00.760
poosy Poose. I can't remember how
who had sent him a message that said

674
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:07.360
seek the Holy Beast of anzan i
Am where the four gods meet. Power

675
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.039
has this reputation for being one of
the greatest feng shuai masters on Mars,

676
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:14.599
so he was like, oh,
go check all this shit out. Jet

677
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.599
search, however, reveals that Power
is dead. He finds his tombstone instead

678
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:23.239
and Israel and he had died that
year. As Jet is pondering who could

679
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:29.519
have sent that message of Poo's dead, he suddenly appears. Suddenly a woman

680
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:35.440
appears, and her name is Pau
Mefa, who is the daughter of Poo,

681
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.920
except he doesn't really know that right
now. She kind of dives saves

682
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:43.400
him and uh, and these two
assassins are trying to kill them both.

683
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.639
He gets his gun ready, but
she looks down at this device she's got

684
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.719
in her hand, and then she's
like, I figured out an escape route

685
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:54.320
and they get to go and they
jump on like a nearby bus and then

686
00:55:54.360 --> 00:56:00.199
into the canal and then they're off. Jet takes me for a boar or

687
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.440
the cowboy bebup the bebup, Sorry, not the cowboy people. Well,

688
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:07.639
he explains that Meifa to Mayfa that
like he hadn't heard from Power in ten

689
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:12.039
years, and that Power had uh. Mayfa says that he died in a

690
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:19.760
transport accident on the way to Jupiter
because of a hyperspace fluctuation, and then

691
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:24.079
she's asking like, how do you
know uh uh pow, and he's like,

692
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:27.199
oh, you know, he sent
me this message and also reveals like,

693
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:30.119
you know, I was I came
and met you one time when you

694
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:34.800
were a little girl. And so
she's like, can you help me find

695
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:38.599
my dad? I think he might
still be alive, And she says that

696
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:45.880
jets Arrival is kind of perfect Feng
Shwei so and and that the disappearance of

697
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.599
her dad has something to do with
the Sunstone. By the time this is

698
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.000
all laid out, even the first
time I watched it, I was like,

699
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:53.280
I don't care about any of this. This is going to be a

700
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:55.880
yeah, and you know, whenever
I'm doing a rewatched Bebop. I get

701
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.639
to this episode and I'm like,
let's give it. Oh really, it's

702
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:06.599
like that. It's not that I
hate it or anything. I just I

703
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:08.920
just don't think there's a lot of
meat on these bones, you know.

704
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:15.400
You know, I feel like I
noticed something new about that episode every time

705
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:19.920
I watch it. With this episode, I'm like, did you say he

706
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.639
kills a man to more? No, actually, that kills the momentum.

707
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:28.480
Yeah, they killed the man,
and he killed a man's momentum. Jet

708
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:34.119
kills a dude in this episode,
like yeah, yeah, really, and

709
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:37.800
then leaves his dead body in the
street and they both just walk away.

710
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:42.480
Doesn't she take like something off of
him? No, that was like a

711
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:44.760
kid comes up and does it.
Oh okay, yeah, just kids,

712
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:47.119
Like I'll take these. See all
kids are evil, my bad? See

713
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:54.719
its true? I stand corrected.
Uh yeah, so that happens, and

714
00:57:54.760 --> 00:58:00.280
then Jets like, meanwhile, the
others are like trying to They seem to

715
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:07.440
insinuate that they might be like a
couple or something like that, and Jess

716
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:10.239
interested her, which is not great. She's clear. He says something like

717
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:16.519
I'm old enough to be your dad. Gorge. He does he does kind

718
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:25.639
of a bit of that coming again. Look, sometimes my impressions are a

719
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:32.320
bit of a caricature, right the
impression last week, by god, what

720
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.880
impression did they not play because of
that? Who is he doing an impression

721
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:43.920
of Was it me? Again?
No? Yours? Is? He didn't

722
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.039
do an impression of you? And
people told me it's good. People like

723
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:52.559
it, just saying to you that
maybe I made it up. So people

724
00:58:52.000 --> 00:59:01.360
people are telling me that my impression. Everybody is saying, you can't even

725
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:06.039
pretend to be mad, that I'm
mad. I'm not mad, I'm never

726
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:12.199
mad, I'm never met Uh yeah, Jet was He was like, Ohm,

727
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.079
you're how old? Again? Well
shit, I could be your boyfriend,

728
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:22.199
I mean older brother. That's later
on and it's like enough enough,

729
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:27.639
Jet enough. Like in this moment, Ed comes out and is like are

730
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:34.880
you his girlfriend? And Jet is
embarrassed, and it's like fucking hem so

731
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.400
uh. I think they're trying to
do like an age thing, but it

732
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:42.440
comes off really poorly where they're trying
to be like, oh, he's off

733
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:45.159
that being told that he's trying to
act like he's young and you know,

734
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:47.760
still with it, but it's just
fucking like Adam is always a bit weird

735
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:51.719
with this stuff, but I think
there was This was definitely from an era

736
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:57.840
where that kind of thing was seen
as more cutesy than it is now,

737
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.840
and I think that's what they were
going for. I don't know, doesn't

738
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:05.320
doesn't do a whole up now,
it just doesn't work. Top the bottom,

739
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:10.159
Ja agrees to help Meifa search the
city for clues for power to find

740
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:15.679
power, and then Mayfha's teaching him
feng Shui and the Three Cheese, the

741
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:20.119
chi of Heaven which comes from the
sun, chi of Earth, which comes

742
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:22.559
from the planet and the people that
live on it, and the magnetic chi

743
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:27.519
that comes from living organisms. I
think, and then part of my dislike

744
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:34.480
of this episode is I also hate
this ship. Yeah, I just look,

745
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:43.599
I think it's cool when people believe
what they want to believe, for

746
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:49.679
at some point when we start talking
about magnetic fields and how you can improve

747
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:54.840
your life, but just like I
just can't. Yeah. Also like it

748
01:00:54.840 --> 01:01:00.119
feels very like unexplored in this episode, like, oh, is there anything

749
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:04.599
more than it feels like they came
up with a conceit to help them run

750
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.800
in different directions, and I don't
really like it. Well, I was

751
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:15.880
just curious. I like didn't know
where everyone stood on you know, funk

752
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:20.679
shue and stuff like that, like
like who tells you where to put your

753
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:22.639
beds and stuff? Dude? I
was That was the one. I was

754
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:27.360
just about to say. There's a
guy on TikTok where people post videos of

755
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:31.800
their room layouts and then he draws
a little picture and he three D prints

756
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:36.960
or furniture and he made he does
the room set up for you and it's

757
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:40.840
kind of it's fun sh as opposed
to interior design. Yes, yes,

758
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:45.480
because like you can't have you know, he always talks about the energy and

759
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:49.840
the flow of stuff in the room. He goes from funk shway Yeah.

760
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:53.320
Yeah, So it's it's a sttle
bit. It's ikea astrology is what it

761
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:58.559
is. It's but also is like
it is kind of you could strip out

762
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:00.360
the func shuey part of it and
be like that makes sense from an interior

763
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:05.440
design perspective, like don't put this
hair because your back's against you know,

764
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:07.920
the wall, and that's weird and
don't you know, alignment of this TV

765
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:13.280
could be fucking up everything? Okay, cool. My favorite is when people

766
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.440
ask for his advice and then he
makes the video and then people actually do

767
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:20.920
it and you just see how much
better it is. Yeah, so good.

768
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.840
That's good for him. So functuey
is the science of studying these cheese

769
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:30.599
and how they interact with one another. And Mayfa says that a functuary master

770
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:36.760
like her dad can use this understanding
of the chi to change their destiny,

771
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.519
which is the way well. After
searching the city, Mefa leads them to

772
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:45.360
this building, the Mountain Hotel,
which she believes is the Anson from her

773
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:50.320
father's note. At the top of
the hotel, she points out like a

774
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:54.440
bunch of different buildings that are representatives
representations of the Blue Dragon, the White

775
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:58.880
Tiger, and the snake and the
tortoise, as well as the Red Phoenix,

776
01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:02.159
which are the four gods from her
father's note. She uses this device

777
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:08.920
which she calls a loopan It's kind
of like a feng shuway detector or a

778
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:15.039
compass, and she uses that to
confirm that the representative the four gods are

779
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:21.039
in alignment with where they are on
top of the Anzan Jet. Then she

780
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:24.000
didn't tells Jet that her father's note
is pointing them in a direction of the

781
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:29.559
Sunstone. They leave the hotel and
use the loop and to locate the Sunstone,

782
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:30.840
which is hidden in the mouth of
a statue at the base of the

783
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.320
hotel. Again, this is just
like all just make it up as you

784
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.760
go along shit, and just don't
do anything that breaks that can continuity,

785
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:42.679
which is like it's a boring process
to watch. Yeah, you know,

786
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.679
I was going into this episode hope
and like, maybe it'll win me over

787
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:47.079
this time because it's been a couple
of years since I watched it. Maybe

788
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:53.280
I'll see a shot yeah, and
it's just like chain, yeah, yeah,

789
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:57.679
Jet is jet is, Like what's
going on? What's happening? What

790
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:00.960
are we doing? You know,
I'll be honestn't think you all would have

791
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.360
this kind of reaction to this episode. I will admit, like I thought

792
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:08.000
it was fine, Like I don't
hate Yeah, it's I'm only saying this

793
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:12.920
in comparison episodes. Yeah, it
was such. It was such a distinct,

794
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:16.599
polarizing tandem, right, I get
it, even like the other Bottle

795
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:19.599
episodes as Lucy called them earlier,
that you know, in comparison to like

796
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:24.000
the Bottle Star stuff, Like even
the others are interesting in some way.

797
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.360
I just find this one completely uninteresting
other than to be like Jet had a

798
01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:30.800
friend once and yeah, no,
I thought I think the sun dial thing

799
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:32.440
was kind of cool. I thought
that was fine. When like the moon

800
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.519
rock they yeah, I was like, okay, that's all right, And

801
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:39.880
then like the temporary portal thing I
thought was interesting. Yeah, I'm cool.

802
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:45.760
That's the one moment where yeah.
So then what happens is Jet is

803
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.360
like, all right, whatever this
is makes sense, I'll just run with

804
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:55.039
it. And then the two assassins
he notices them, uh, and then

805
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:58.280
goes into a bar, and this
is the one cool bit for for Jet.

806
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:00.760
He orders a bottle a drink and
says he wants the bottle but no

807
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:06.599
glass. This pictures so fucking cool, and it's a callback to the last

808
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:10.239
time he's shown in a bar where
he beats a bunch of people over the

809
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:13.800
head with a bottle. So this
is his weapon of choice in a bar.

810
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:16.599
When he gets he has done this
enough that he has established the bottle

811
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:21.800
with the perfect amount of density.
Yeah, people to knock people out,

812
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:26.840
not kill them, which is a
nice moment. It's the most meaningful Jet

813
01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:32.599
like character progression in the entire episode. So Jet ambushes them and knocks them

814
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:36.559
out, and then they confirmed that
their agents of the Blue Snake crime Syndicate,

815
01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:43.320
who were just following Powell before he
disappeared, and they're following MafA instead

816
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:47.039
now and they're hoping that she would
lead them to her dad, but they

817
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:54.400
have no information on what the Blue
Snake wants with Powell. The jet and

818
01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:57.679
Mayfa returned to the Bebop to look
at the stone and it reveals us a

819
01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:01.320
piece of the Moon which was destroyed
in the ass Through Gate accident years before.

820
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:06.480
Mayfa says that the accident caused space
time fluctuations to be absorbed into the

821
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:11.280
debris from the accident, and these
stones have like a crazy amount of power

822
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:14.960
inside of them which can be amplified
by the sun, which is why they're

823
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:18.920
called sunstones. Name, yeah,
that's cool. J asks Mayfa what the

824
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:21.880
purpose of the sunstones is and she's
like, I don't know. I don't

825
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:25.800
know what my dad was going to
do with it. Then Iron grabs the

826
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:31.199
Sunstone and brings it over to the
loopan, which then begins to spin even

827
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:38.079
though the magnet has been removed.
Mayfa realizes that the sunstone has a twin,

828
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:41.880
which is with her dad, So
her dad has the other part of

829
01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:45.480
this stone, and she realizes that
if Je replaces it, how did they

830
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.079
realize that? I forget? She
just kind of says that she's like,

831
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:53.039
my gut tells me my dad's got
the other part of this. Yeah,

832
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:56.159
that's another point in this episode where
I was like, we're just We're just

833
01:06:56.239 --> 01:07:00.360
kind of like, there's another moment
that I'm very confused about. But yeah,

834
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:04.760
this is what it's like, wishy
washy bullshit. She tells Jet that

835
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:09.599
if he she replaces the Lupin's magnet
with the sunstone, it should lead them

836
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:13.239
to the to her dad. But
they do that. They follow the coordinates

837
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:17.440
leave Mars, and during the journey, may For reveals to Jet that she

838
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:21.760
wasn't really close to her dad and
she's a bit upset that. Oh,

839
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:28.760
she's sad that Powell contacted Jet instead
of her, And then she reveals that

840
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:33.000
Powell believed in pretty much in function
only and that was to the neglect of

841
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:38.599
his wife and his kid, and
she was like, she and her mom

842
01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:44.599
left and she's not seen him in
years since. She also like she's asking

843
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:50.000
out loud why Powell never tried to
track her down and because they weren't really

844
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:55.079
trying to hide from him, and
then Jet does the nice guy thing where

845
01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:58.880
it's like Powell probably had a good
reason, but she's not having it,

846
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:02.119
and she's like, I know you
know something about my dad that you're not

847
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:05.760
telling me Jet, and then he
reveals that Powell was a consultant for the

848
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:11.039
Blue Snake Syndicate and leads some information
to Jet when he was a detective with

849
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:15.880
the ISSP and Powell helped Jet in
the hopes that he would return the favor

850
01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:19.439
and help him escape from the syndicate's
control, and Jet tried, but Power

851
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:24.279
knew so much about the syndicates inner
workings that escape was pretty much impossible,

852
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:28.960
and so he kind of theorizes that
Powell was worried that Mayfair might be hurt

853
01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:30.880
by the Syndicate if you resume contact
with her. So he just goes on

854
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:36.560
the run. This is the point
in the episode where I zoned out by

855
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:42.600
the way, Yeah, yeah,
it's not great. After entering the astral

856
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:47.640
gate near Mars into hyperspace, the
Loupan kind of centers itself and then it

857
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:53.399
appears that Powell is somewhere in the
hyper space stream with them, but the

858
01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:57.439
radar doesn't show anyone there, so
they carry on searching. But a ship

859
01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:00.920
shows up and it's an attack ship
sent by the Blue Snake, spikes in

860
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:04.520
the Swordfish too and phasing the Red
Tail, and they engage the Sindericut craft,

861
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:09.119
which is just like robot ships sent
to shoot down the Bebop. This

862
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:13.000
is another thing where I was like, this is a very coincidental thing to

863
01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:15.439
suddenly have ships of robots instead of
like, all of a sudden, I'm

864
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.520
the skeptic. Yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, I know. This is

865
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:24.800
a weird continuity thing. You're like, they're in space, what's going on?

866
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.880
And when when you say all of
a sudden, I'm the skeptic,

867
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:32.479
I think what you mean is after
nearly two years of recording podcasts and you

868
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:43.079
being the skeptic, you were the
skeptic exactly. Okay. Jack comes up

869
01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:46.039
with a plan and he's like,
if we apply enough energy to the sandstone,

870
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:49.760
that should be able to draw the
forces out trapped inside the edward just

871
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:55.199
like choves this stone down the toilet. Look that bit's great, that's so

872
01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:58.680
great, funny. Yeah, And
then it comes out the other end and

873
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:01.039
it's like floating in space and and
Jet tells a spike to shoot it with

874
01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:06.359
a plasma cannon. It hits the
stone and it sends us like electric waves

875
01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:15.000
out out into the space and it
kills the robot ships perfectly, and it

876
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:21.000
also opens a vortex within the hyperspace
stream. And as their Mayfa and Jet

877
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:27.359
look into the vortex, they see
a ship on the other side, and

878
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:30.800
the ship hails the beab up and
the pilot is Power. Jet tells Power

879
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.439
that he's in an unstable force field
and they need to get him out.

880
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:38.119
But Pal's like, I'm not leaving
this place. It's impossible, and I'm

881
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:42.600
running out of oxygen. It's almost
gone. So he says that he sent

882
01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.119
the message to Jet so he could
reunite with his daughter. Actually he could

883
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:49.840
be renated with his daughter. And
his implication is like I knew that you

884
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:55.000
would find her and then bring her
hair. He tries to talk with Mayfa,

885
01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:59.039
but she's like, I hated you
and you manipulate us into coming.

886
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.359
Jet tells Power that Mafo didn't come
on account of feng shui. She can't

887
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:08.479
be because of her own free will, and then Powe was like, all

888
01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:12.439
right, man, I'm sorry,
and Mayfa was like, I hate you

889
01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:15.279
for a really long time, but
I can't really hate you now, and

890
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.640
he's like, thank you, and
then he just dies and then just go

891
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:26.640
bye into static yet a little bit. And then Jack concludes the episode by

892
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:31.640
telling everyone that Mayfa returns to Mars
and that everything turned to normal and he

893
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:35.359
has no interest in horoscopes anymore.
He's like, and that's the end of

894
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:42.399
the story. Like all good stories, someone has to tell you it's over.

895
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:46.319
Yeah, it's jo. Yeah.
It was really weird that they showed

896
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:48.720
the girl and the girl's just like, yeah, life's great. Now.

897
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:55.560
I got weird, horrific closure with
my father and I just you know,

898
01:11:55.760 --> 01:12:00.800
visit his bullet rooting tombstone. Now, closure is closure, all right?

899
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:04.840
Jeff, you seem like I guess
more high on this episode than the rest

900
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:11.920
of us. I'm not high on
it by any stretch. I'm just I'm

901
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:16.680
maybe more forgiving as all. I
like, this is not when I think

902
01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:20.640
of Cowboy Bebop. From here on
out, I will not be thinking of

903
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:26.880
this episode. I agree, it
is the weakest amongst the ones we have

904
01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:30.279
screened so far, and I would
not be surprised to say the same thing

905
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:35.439
once we're done with the entire series. I think some cool things happened in

906
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:42.279
it, and I still think we
should shout out cool things. But Functu

907
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:47.359
is a decidedly not cool thing,
and having that be the cornerstone plot device

908
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:53.279
of your episode, I cannot give
it a ringing endorsement. Yeah, I

909
01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:58.039
would stress Again, I don't think
it's like like I wasn't bored watching it.

910
01:12:58.039 --> 01:13:01.119
It's just I think, if you're
coming to Kewboy Bebop, it has

911
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:05.119
so many better hits than this episode. Sure, sure. Yeah. I

912
01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:11.439
also feel like conceptually it's more interesting
than the execution. I like the idea

913
01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:15.399
of taking something like, you know, an energy based kind of system like

914
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:20.039
func Shue and Try which just sit
into a lot of like kwboy stuff,

915
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:24.600
Yeah yeah, and trying to use
that as a way to tell the story

916
01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:28.840
about destiny and how you can take
control of it yourself. And there was

917
01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:32.760
also like, you know, that
kind of functuy style thing where Spike seems

918
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:36.640
like the character who would be better
attached to it than Jet if you know

919
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:41.159
what I mean. We should we
see him like trying to find internal peace

920
01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:45.159
a bunch of times onlike the the
deck of the Bebop where he's like just

921
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:48.359
you know, practicing his cut or
whatever it may be. But like Jet

922
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:53.840
feels like the wrong character for this
to be done with, even though it

923
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:57.199
is like based on his backstory.
If you know what, the fung shui

924
01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:01.680
stuff is kind of interesting because have
any have you seen Outlaws Star? No?

925
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:08.279
No, no, So outlasst Star
is like a hornier Cowboy Bebop for

926
01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:14.800
Team Hornier. Yes, okay,
Jeff got activated. Yeah, but it

927
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:16.279
can't be as cool, right,
It's not as cool. It's not as

928
01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:19.119
cool, it's not as cool,
it's not as good, but it's still

929
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:25.600
great. I love it. It's
it's cool. But the entire like magic

930
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:30.720
system in Outlast Star is like based
on kind of sort of Chinese ancient magic

931
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:33.840
and like a lot of fung Shui
stuff, and it's really like some of

932
01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:40.159
the designs in it are so fucking
cool and it's they pushed that idea a

933
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:43.079
lot further and it's not a lot
of ways I'd say out Lost Star is

934
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:45.800
better than Cowboy Bebop, but I
think in how it kind of treats this

935
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:48.720
stuff as one of them. Also, just say, I am definitely no

936
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:53.760
expert on any of this stuff and
there was a chance that I just completely

937
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:57.199
mistook it for something else. Well, I guess I think it's we're only

938
01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:00.199
talking about it as a narrative device. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

939
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.399
guess The Outlaws star of draws a
lot on like Taoism and stuff like that

940
01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:08.520
as well, so none of which
I am very knowledgeable of it. Yeah,

941
01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:13.279
So I think we had an interesting
dichotomy of like the strongest episode,

942
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:18.119
one of the strongest episodes of of
Cowboy Bebop, and also one of the

943
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:24.399
weakest, which is unfortunate. But
overall, I'm glad that we got to

944
01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:28.319
I think we were super positive on
the first one, so like, on

945
01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:32.840
balance, we're fine. I mean, I am infinitely more positive on mad

946
01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:39.359
Puro than I am negative about But
you will go yes, like oh yeah,

947
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:43.720
oh yeah, yeah for sure.
That brings to close another episode of

948
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:47.680
Jeff jeff Bizarre Adventure. We are
rapidly approaching the end of Cowboy Bebop,

949
01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:55.600
which means we are rapidly start of
worry. I'm sure it all ends well

950
01:15:56.239 --> 01:16:00.199
yeah, yeah, fine, I'm
getting that vibe. Yeah, John,

951
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:04.760
were up? People find you what
you're up to, you know what.

952
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:10.199
Keep an eye on the old eyepatches
dot com. Over the next couple of

953
01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:14.199
days, we might have might have
a little some stuff going up. And

954
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:19.000
also I'm going to be hosting my
Game of the Years stream this Friday.

955
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:24.359
Hell hell yeah, I'll do it
with you. So I'm by myself,

956
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:28.119
but you'll do with you persevere.
No, that's okay. Some more you

957
01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:32.319
don't you don't want none of this? Wow, weird, weird Steam games

958
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:36.640
constantly. Let's see where you are? What are you up to? We

959
01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:43.000
can go find you, uh lost
James games everywhere. I'm doing a bunch

960
01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:45.319
of any of the year stuff for
games. But we did our Giant bomb

961
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:49.159
stuff live. Look out for the
VOD for that. Yeah, it's exciting.

962
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:57.600
Any of the crawling over that finish
line. Ye Jeff Beckla, yep,

963
01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:00.479
that's my name. You could you
could go search it and get in

964
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:04.680
touch with me on Twitter. And
I'm going to be turning the computer off

965
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:11.560
and not coming back for at least
twenty one days. Twenty one. Does

966
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:15.279
that mean we don't have another episode
this year? Well, I'm the first

967
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:18.640
week of January, so we might
want to record one next week. Yeah,

968
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:21.159
yeah, I think we'll have a
lot more this year. I'm an

969
01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:25.319
right next week. Yeah, I
lied about the computer thing. Okay,

970
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.760
Yeah, look at that. Yeah, we have one. We have one.

971
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:33.000
We'll figure that out. Yeah.
Thank you everyone, We'll see you

972
01:17:33.039 --> 01:17:42.800
in the next one. Jeff Jeff's
Bizarre Adventure is hosted by timor Hussein,

973
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:46.000
Lucy James, John Super Eye,
Patch, Wolf Walsh, and me Jeff

974
01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:50.600
Backlar. Our post producer and editor
is Jean Luke Sepke. Our logo is

975
01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:56.439
designed by Justin Boshon and Jess O'Brien. Thanks so much for listening. Animy

