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Steve Rivera and jaygn Salez. They
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Wham, so we're on, We're
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just reading the news. Look,
look the blue lad welcome back to Out

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of the Ball. I'm Steve a
little sleepy, but that's Jay and we

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do have and we do have breaking
I'm sleepy, he's dope, you're grumpy,

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You're not sleepy. And Kevin mister
happy. All right, Eye on

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the ball breaking news on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. Alright, alright, you

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guys, So we do have some
breaking news. Jayden Daniels has been named

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the AP College Football Player of the
Year. Do you guys have any thoughts

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on that? I know director goes
against James Heisman picks so well, and

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Jake might be the one because he's
an Sue guy. He wasn't an impressive

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back then. How did he become
this guy? Well, he got a

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better team, He got better players
around him, for sure. You know

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you're at L s U. You
know L s U, A s U.

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You know which one, which one's
gonna have better players? Uh?

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There's that. But look, give
him credit. He you know, he's

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had a great he's had a great
year, He's done some great things.

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He's piled up a ton of stats, but his team isn't one of the

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best in the country. And and
that's that's kind of where I draw the

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line on, you know, on
on you know, I don't disagree with

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these kinds of a war. Don't
disagree with you because if you're the best

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team guest player in the country on
a pretty good team and you didn't get

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him to or at least a very
good record, right, and and and

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and again, as Jake said,
that's not always the case. Like I

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said, you know, I thought
I thought Andrew luck should have won a

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Heisman. I thought Toby Gerhart should
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thought Christian mccafrey should all those guys
from Stanford. Stanford wasn't quite there.

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And and so they gave him to
guys you know who played in the national

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championship games and stuff like that.
And sometimes that's right. In this particular

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case, I think that you know, all he did was pile up stats

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in the second half of the season, not even a whole season, And

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and uh, you know, guys
like Michael Pennix and and and and Bo

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Knicks did it the whole year.
Ye, the whole year, from day

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one. I don't agree with you
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And I also want to say that
it seems that Daniels is picking up a

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lot of momentum from the pros.
Kirk Hirve Street was on Pat McAfee show

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this morning really talking him up,
saying, you know, a lot of

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guys are gonna fall in love with
Drake may Caleb love, but Jade Daniels

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is actually the guy. And I
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true or we'll see time. Only
time will tell. Yeah, but it

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doesn't like Daman daniels stock is rapidly
rising. It is. It's gone way

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up. Brownie James was expected to
make his USC debut on Sunday. I

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believe it's a long beach. But
yeah, that's only four months after his

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Aready arrest this SUMMERTTY pretty aspirational story. I know he has the best doctors

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and all that stuff, but it's
really cool to see him still follow that

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dream. Yep, we do have
more second generation news as Southern Missus Frank

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Gore Junior, the son of obviously
the legend Frank Gore. He'll be entering

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the draft this year alongside of Brendan
Rice, Verry Rice's kid. I had

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no idea. I didn't know he
I didn't know he was there either.

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I heard his name and stuff.
I just didn't connect him to Jerry Rice.

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Yeah. And then Cowboys coach Mike
McCarthy after his surgery, is set

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to coach on Sunday. He got
his appendix removed. Weedy surgery. Dude,

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you're burying the lead for Arizona.
Go ahead with it. Jordan Morgan

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lead the way. But Jordan Morgan
announced today that he's not gonna He's not

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He's gonna skip the Bowl game,
which you know, one I predict.

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I predicted it, like I knew
what I was doing. But you know,

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I'm not surprised at all. I
thought, you know, if there

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was ever a guy that you'd say, should you know, say he's had

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a bad knee injury, why take
a chance. Yeah, and he's gonna

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be a number one He's gonna be
a number one pick. Yeah, I'm

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why take a chance on this game? I think in in in Jed Fish's

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case, you know, he's got
somebody that he'll he'll want to you know,

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he'll give some time to and they'll
you'll, he'll get get some extra

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practice reps, he'll get some extra
game time. You know, I don't

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think it's a bad thing for Let
me, let me put a little forking

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this up. Would you have thought
this five years ago, Oh, that

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guys would do this? No,
no, no, that you'd be okay

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with it because you weren't. Christian
mccafrey was the first one. And when

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you I'm like, what a jerk? Yeah, what a jerk. But

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it's become the thing now and and
so yeah, now if you know,

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if you got a guy who's skipping
out on a New Years six bawl or

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skipping out on a you know,
playoff game or something like that, then

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I got a problem. But at
this point, you know, Steve,

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you know I can. I can
go with the times. You know,

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the world is any tomorrow. Guys
do what you want tonight, and Jay

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can change. He said, That's
why I read it. But now you

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know, and again in his particular
case, so you know, here Morgan,

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you know he had an injury and
and and you know, every game

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he plays. You know, it's
unnecessary for him to play in this game.

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And and I actually think but the
Jetfish probably completely agrees with him,

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and he has he says, you
know, thank you for letting the snow.

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Let's get another guy. Well,
in fact, I think that Jetfish

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when he was asked last week,
I think it was he kind of he

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kind of he said, a couple
of guys. They're a couple of guys,

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So I'm sure this was one of
them. Yeah. And then the

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twenty twenty four four star wide receiver
Dylan Gresham will take an official visit to

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Arizona today. Uh. He's named
Arizona Oregon and Washington is his top three.

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Uh and he he did who was
Oregon back in May, but his

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recruitment is not back open. So
I got a text yesterday from someone that

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we probably both know, Jay Why
hasn't hasn't Jade do Laura declared yet to

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go somewhere else? And the only
thing I could think of was, well,

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he wants to go to the bull
game. Yeah, Uh, that

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would be the only thing or he's
not gonna go anywhere. Well, first

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of all, you know, you
know what we've heard is that, you

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know, he's he's not done with
school right. In order to transfer and

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be able to play right away,
he's got to graduate, okay, because

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he's used his free transfer, so
he's got he's got he can go as

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a grad student. So he's that's
still youngest, he's still what was only

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a junior eight Laura, Well,
this is his fourth year. This was

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his fourth year. Well he missed. Well, okay, so you I

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mean you got to finish in four
years. Not too many people do,

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yeah, especially right in terms of
right. So in order to get the

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fifth year and be able to take
that fifth year somewhere else, he's got

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to he's got a graduate so that
may not be available to him. It

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might not be you know, I
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or anything like that. What I
heard was that he might not that he

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would need probably some of the summer
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part of the thing is that you
know, guys who are like grad

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transfers and stuff like that, they
try to get to their new school in

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January, take part in supring ball
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he, you know, I don't
know if he's there yet so he's in

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a tough spot. Yeah, because
he's played three years, right, He's

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played three years and he had a
red shirt. Ye, so you know,

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uh, in order to get that, in order to play that that

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last year and be able to transfer
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away, he's got to graduate.
So he's gonna get his degree. He

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is a tough spot, Okay.
And honestly, that's that's pretty much all

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the breaking news I had that was
that was pretty relevant to us. The

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Chiefs wide receiver Justin Ross is gonna
return after the next game from his six

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game suspension after his arrest this summer. But yeah, all right, did

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did we go into the the APS
all Pack twelve team because it came out

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yesterday and I'm not sure when it
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we talked, I think I leave
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not we didn't go in death okay, So you know what, I think

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what we talked about were the offensive
defensive players of the year and all that.

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So bonnets AP Pack twelve offensive player, the defensive end lat too from

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U c L. A defensive player
that killed boor was the pac twelve Coach

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of the Year, and then uh
shad Or Sanders Newcomer of the Year.

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But Arizona got two guys on the
first team. They got Jordan Morgan,

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uh you know, on the first
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first team defense. And then they
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Uh there was tam mac wendell moe
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and then they had uh Tacario Davis
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the second team. By the AP, they're doing all their conference uh all

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conference teams that they associated prest So
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for them. Okay, okay,
anybody else anything else? No, no,

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anybody want to call you have NBA
playing tournament stuff. They're not gonna

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have a third place game, right
they just played the championship game. Correct.

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I guess nobody would care about the
third those take because after the break

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and the conversation we had about Caleb
Love, then I want to ask you,

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Steve all Right who It's gonna be
a hard question. Who's the best

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team on THEIRS on basketball best player
on THEIRS on basketball team? Right now?

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What do you mean by player best
player. You know, who's who's

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there? Who's there? Who do
I want? Yeah? I mean who's

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who's Yeah? I mean is it? Is it Caleb Love? That Island

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Boswell? Is it Keishad Johnson?
Who's the best player on the team?

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Or let's say the m v P. Who am I gonna Who am I

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gonna draft for the Who's Who's the
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Love? I think that? Oh
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top three Caleb Love Johnson? And
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that order. Yeah. Where where
would Lewis fall at five? Yeah?

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Probably five? But Boo scares me, he just does. What do you

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mean he scares you because because because
if he gets felt and he's not,

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if he gets felt at the line
wherever he's It's like there was a question

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they asked, Tommy, did you
hear him? He should jump shot from

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the pre throw line. He can't
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chugging jumpers from but he's making that? Then he should shoot jumpers from the

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free throw line. He should run
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Do you remember the thing colco for
two three years ago? Did you

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trust Colocal with the line? Do
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No, thank you very much.
Bollow under the basket. He missed

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everything on one of those last in
the last case. Yes, so you

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understand what I'm saying. But I
think Caleb, Caleb Johnson has been he

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because he brings more than just things
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yes, more than stats, because
he brings a toughness that they didn't have.

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Right, and you've heard you've heard
Tommy say dogs twice. Now he

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wouldn't He didn't say dogs twice in
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And I I think I would flip
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wouldn't be oh two and three.
So Caleb still number one. Yeah,

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I think he's. I think he's. He's he's the guy on the floor

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who carries himself with the most confidence, total willing. He'll if you need

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a shot, he goes, I'll
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then he's he's he's surprised me because
of the reputation that we all heard of

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coming in that. You know,
like you said, he's he's leaning and

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steals, he leads and assists.
He's going out to rebounds he's got he's

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averaged nearly five rebounds a game.
Yeah for a for a guard. Yeah,

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that's really damn. He talked about
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and he's the leading scorer. Now
they've got five guys in double figures and

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and he's he's only four tenths of
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he's you know, he's up there, and he's a guy that you can

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rely on, you know, to
get you some points. But he's got

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four point seven rebounds a game.
He's got uh, you know, a

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couple of offensive rebounds. He's got
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of everybody. Uh, Boswell is
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and then uh he and Boswell are
typed for the team leading steals. He's

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playing defense. Yeah, yeah,
no, who's a killer. But yeah,

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yeah, so I so you agree
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think that and we've had a discussion
while you were I guess at a break

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out that he's he's good. You
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be good and when that's gonna happen. Well, why you have to worry

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so much about that? Because I
think they got enough guys that they don't

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have enough scores. They don't have
enough scores like him. You need scores.

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It's like when Ben Matherin would go
dark. You who did you rely

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on? Yeah? Because Ben could
score? Yeah, And you said,

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don't worry, we got Ben.
But but I was still worried. But

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but Steve, would you know,
like, I mean, you know he

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since he doesn't play all forty minutes, there's times he's not in the game

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and you don't sit there and think
they can't score. I have. I

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have a couple of times I'm thinking
he's on the bench, I'm thinking,

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what's he thinking'd get me back in? Yeah? Interesting? Okay, Well,

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in the in the break real quick, Steve and I were talking about

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the difference in coaching between Tommy Lloyd
and the UNC coach I believe his name

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is Davis. Yeah. Yeah.
We were talking about how when you're watching

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you and see it's almost kind of
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gonna do this and this is not
the operation that Tommy runs. And I

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think that's a big impact on the
player that k would love has Ben I

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think, right, like, the
national conversation about him is been like on

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a team where you just roll the
ball out and be talentedact. In fact,

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I asked Caleb this question. I
think one of his successes is because

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Arizona's offense is free flowing. You
know, it finds the ball. He

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finds the shot because it's moved so
much. The thing is with him,

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he's always open. Yeah, his
shots are deep. Yeah, you know,

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and you're probably too deep sometimes,
right, so you're taking what are

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you doing? Yeah, you don't
need to ship exactly right, So,

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but you're not. There are times, but I think most of the time

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he's within the flow right without questions. But it's still a twenty five switter.

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Yeah, shoulders think every shots going
in until it is like you're the

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defense rest because exactly you need that
shot. What are you doing? Yeah,

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you're right, Both of you guys
are right? Are all right?

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Man? All right? Let's go
hold hands and sing. All right,

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we're gonna be back. Rereck Anderson
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Rivera and Jacobzalez on Fox Sports fourteen
fifteen. Hey, welcome back to ye

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about here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty
I'm Steve Rivera, geeze Jakinsawis I want

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a PHONEE? We have former U
of a basketball player, Ricky Anderson,

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How are you, Ricky? I'm
great, I'm great, great to talk

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to you. I'm gonna give you
some grief right now. You we asked

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for I asked for a photo.
You send me a guy who looks like

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Bradley Cooper with your with your glamary
show. You know, you know,

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with age, with change. I
totally lived opposite when I was like get

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nineteen playing from Kojo. Yeah,
well you look good. Great for you,

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Great for you. So let me
tell you. We're gonna go ride

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ranging on the interview, so everyone
talks about Wisconsin twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

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and I said, yeah, okay, but Wisconsin to me means Ricky

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Anderson two thousand. Oh yeah,
that shot, that shot almost I shot

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it from half court. There is
probably like seventeen from the three from the

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three point lining and sweat. Well, that's that's why you're on the phone.

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But let me say this, Uh
you they were getting beat. There

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was as the number one team in
the country. Uh in terms of seed,

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they're getting beat. Incomes Ricky Anderson
and he hits this three. You

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get him, you get him in
the game, you put him in the

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game. How was that? I
remember I caught fire and and and I

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remember pulling that shot from all of
half court because I hit like three threes

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or two threes and then I shoot
it and it just goes in and out

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and Coach Olla looks at me,
just gives me the grand mic. Oh,

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Ricky, what are you pulling from
half court? Ricky? Ricky,

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what are you doing? I know
that was a great game. I remember

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Gilbert. Gilbert was was bawling,
but I came in for him because Coach

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O got mad at him or something, and I just got hit a couple

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of threes and we ended up losing. But god, that was a That

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was a tough game. And yeah, when you you know, when you

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think about that, uh, going
back to that game, you know your

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number one seed, Arizona's had a
couple of disappointments here the last two years.

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You know, being a really high
seed, what's your approach going in

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because you're feeling like you're supposed to
win this game, but everybody in the

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tournament is good, and you know
you can lose in your case. You

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guys, did you know to Wisconsin? How do you you know? How

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do you approach that during the week
or headed into that. Gosh, that's

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like when you approach a game,
you i mean the scout team. I

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know that Tommy Lloyd has a great
scout team, and you try to emulate

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those players on the other team.
And once you starts, once you start

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to get a good scout team like
Tommy Lloyd has right now, it's really

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important. And when we prepare,
we i mean basically go through all their

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plays to detail and then try to
kind of emulate. You know, that's

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that style and that's what Coach Oh
was so good at. You would just

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I mean, our second stream could
be a lot of you know, a

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lot of teams. So when you
prepare mentally to for those games, I

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always thought it was like, Okay, this team's gonna be good, they're

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gonna be tough. But in the
back of your mind, you're just like

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you got to grind. And I
think these guys, you know, Caleb

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Love and Johnson and these guys are
just like tough. I've been watching them

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and it's just going back to my
years. I'm like, dang, they

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got some good guards and and good
big so so yeah, that kind of

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jumped all over the place there.
So let me let me tell you that

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Jay uh So, Ricky and I
had a pretty good relationships. Like I

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told you before, back after the
two thousand year in the locker room,

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he said, Steve, Steve,
I'm gonna red shirt this year. And

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said really why? He says,
well, you know, we get to

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sit out. I think, why
are you telling me I want to write

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that you can't write anything? Why
the hell did you tell them? I

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remember that too. And then it
was funny because when we when I red

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shirted, they went to the National
championship and Bobby you know, passed away

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and that year was an incredible year. But I remember that moment when you

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when you put a night out mad. I was like, Steve, what

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are you doing with man? I
had to we were loaded. That was

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the best thing I've done in my
whole career was red shirt that year.

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Well, we'll talk about sitting on
that year because, as you said,

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they got to the National Championship game. You know, when you're when you're

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on the bench at any point during
the season where you're thinking, dang,

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you know, did I screw this
up? Or you know, what was

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your attitude that whole year? Like
like on this on the scout team.

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Are you talking about just when you're
you know, you were missing out on

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that being on the court when you
decided that season that the season that you

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red shirted. How tough was that? That was? That was really hard

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to I think it was Indianapolis to
go to the Final four and not playing

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the game. I mean, it
was it was hard, but it was

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pretty amazing because I mean I always
I've told my daughter, my eleven year

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old, that I was playing you
know, Shane Battier and the scout team

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and they're number one. I was
playing all the number one players and they

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coach I was like, shoot it
every time, Ricky, shoot it every

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time. So it was I mean, for me, it was tough.

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It was tough to wash for a
little bit, but then I mean I

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was just I was just so into
being just in chemistry with the team and

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being involved even on a scout and
keeping a positive attitude or even red shirting,

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and I think that's that's important,
you know, for for a team

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to grow is have guys on the
team that that really give it all and

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you're playing, Yeah, give him
as much as you can. I mean,

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that front, that that front five, that five five is going to

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kill it. So so so let
me kind of explain our relationship too.

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So you're you're one of the only
I think, maybe the only one.

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I could be wrong, Ricky.
Where your dad played for Loot and you

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played for Loot, right, Uh, And that's so it's a different dynamic.

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But I told Jay before you came
on a while back, about an

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hour so ago, uh, about
our relationship. But I said, yeah,

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Uh, Ricky's the guy that if
Richard was late for practice, he'd

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yell at Ricky because of it.
You were the you were like the guy

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he' that was yelling. No matter
what, we lost him, we lose

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God, it looks like we dropped
the call. I don't see if we

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get him back, because he would
have left after that. Yeah, it

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was a great line. He has
a great line unless he did, like

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the question did we call him or
we called him? But well, you

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know, it's funny because you know, I was doing you know, stats

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for that that whole period of time, and he just seemed like one of

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the one of the guys you seemed
to be having the most he did,

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right, that was part of it. Quite get serious. I've always had

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a smile on his face played hard, right, incredibly talented. You know,

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he's one He's one of those tall
guys who could the hell out of

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it. And I just you know, but yet he wasn't one of the

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guys. He wasn't Gilbert and he
was like you said, he wasn't Richard,

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he wasn't uh you know, he
wasn't one of those guys. But

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yet a guy who you knew,
man a whole have a lot to those

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to those teams. Yea, in
that in that period of time. Okay,

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I'm hoping give him the right number
here or se if he calls in.

406
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:23.400
No, No, you're exactly right. You're spot on with your evaluation.

407
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.319
I wanted to talk to because that
two thousand and three year that you

408
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.680
said he was on, which I
don't doubt why he didn't play more of

409
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:36.839
a significant role because of because the
team needed someone like him. Yeah,

410
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.119
no, nothing yet. No,
okay, h that's strange. We can

411
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:48.359
try him. Yeah, let's try
him. You have the number. You

412
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.640
need to turn his microphone off,
yeah, okay, and they need to

413
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.400
turn the white button on so that
we there you go. But uh,

414
00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:02.880
you know, I I completely forgotten
about the red Shirt year until I was

415
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.319
looking at his his thing today and
then you know, as you said,

416
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:11.160
he sat out on his own,
you know, to give himself two good

417
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.839
years after that, which he did. And you know those are those were

418
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.119
a couple of good teams, especially
you know, the two thousand and three

419
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:18.599
team, as we said, that
got to the lead eight and was within

420
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.440
a basket of going to the final
four. Yeah, you know, so

421
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:29.039
I don't know that, you know, I don't know that he's one of

422
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:34.000
those guys that I feel like everybody
knew him. Yeah, but again,

423
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:41.240
he wasn't one of the marquee guy. He was exactly what he did was

424
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.279
was that scout team. He was
the Shane Battier guy. He was like

425
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.359
the like the Peyton guy. He
was the guy that come in and just

426
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:49.599
be that guy. Yeah, and
he was pretty good at it. Yeah

427
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.519
yeah, okay, about to get
it. Yeah yeah, we lost you.

428
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:57.440
So so can you hear me?
Connection? All right? We got

429
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.519
you now. So so I don't
know if you've heard my life. You

430
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.119
were the guy with a special relationship
with with Luke because of your dad and

431
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.200
all that stuff. But I was
telling Jay that if Richard or Luke got

432
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.480
in trouble you'd be the guy he'd
yell at. Oh. Yeah, I

433
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:15.119
was kind of like Coach O growing
up with you know, like Bobby watching

434
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.000
us and growing up around you know, Kocho's grandkids and things like that.

435
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.839
He had kind of that not that
edge on me, but he had like

436
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.720
almost like a family like a family
deal, so he could yell at me

437
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:33.519
time if he wanted to. Yeah, I think I was the most yelled

438
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.440
player on that team by far,
right, I get it. You know,

439
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.279
I coached my son in baseball.
Right, I yelled at him more

440
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:41.400
than I yelled at all the other
guys because I felt like I could.

441
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.720
Yeah right, Yeah, you felt
like you could. And you want them

442
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.799
to, you know what, you
want them to really do good. I

443
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:52.440
think Coach O really he saw a
lot in me, and he just pushed

444
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.599
me. He just pushed me.
And it wasn't for him, you know,

445
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.440
I wouldn't have played overseas. And
you know all the great memories.

446
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.720
You know, I Arizona with you
know, great players around in great community.

447
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:08.200
It's pretty special. And miss Coach
O. Man, he's my dad.

448
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:14.880
And Dave Leslie that Dave Leslie played
for lom Beach State with Coacho too,

449
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:19.279
and their birthdays are on New Year's
Day is on New Year's Day.

450
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:26.599
My dad's on Christmas Eve, and
Coach O they always call him out on

451
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.720
the boat and they go fishing every
year, and my dad told me last

452
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.640
year that he missed calling coach O. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So

453
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.960
one of the things that you did, you so you took the red shirt

454
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.640
in that year championship here, you
came back the next year. You guys

455
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:42.400
are okay, and then I don't
remember this rinky and Jay was putting this

456
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.400
sout. So you were there in
two thousand and three when they lost to

457
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:52.519
Kansas in Nana. So we ended
up beating Gonzaga in the same court we

458
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:57.559
lost to Wisconsin that you talked about
in Utah, so oh yeah yeah and

459
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.440
mid step back step okay, that
was that same year, right, yeah,

460
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.039
okay, So tell me why weren't
you more of an impact in that

461
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.079
in that Kansas game, because I
don't remember you being an impact on that

462
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:14.119
game. I remember, if I
fairly remember, I hit a couple of

463
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:18.920
threes in the first half and I
got going, and it seemed like it

464
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.480
was just kind of like a blur. How we lost that game. I

465
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.079
mean things weren't clicking right, and
I had Murph, like Murph Jack Murphy

466
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.119
the assistant right now. For Tommy
Lloyd, it was our it was our

467
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.880
manager, our senior manager, and
we still talk about, like God,

468
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.240
that Kansas game, there was a
lot of things that kind of didn't go

469
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.160
our way. Yeah, and I
think I really think that, you know,

470
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.720
if we hit a couple more shots, we only lost by three,

471
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.880
we would have won that game.
But it was really it was really disappointing

472
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:53.759
because Anaheim. You know, I'm
long Beach and I had basically every person

473
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.000
in my family was there. So
it was kind of a kind of a

474
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.880
downer and a lot of people bring
it up still, and you know what,

475
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.519
the past is the past, and
you know, it's just kind of

476
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.640
kind of disappointing, but you know, it's it's nice to see the team

477
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:14.079
just succeeding this year and Tommy Lloyd
going and doing this. So I'm really

478
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:15.960
excited. I'm gonna fly out with
my daughter here soon and come to a

479
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:20.039
game. So well, Rick,
I'm gonna I'm gonna make you feel worse

480
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.559
about that Kansas game. Okay,
because my son, who was ten at

481
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.440
the time, huge fan, ended
up working in sports information for ten years.

482
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:32.119
Yeah, and and and my godson. We were watching the game together

483
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:37.559
and throughout the game, we're getting
our plans together for San Antonio because that's

484
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:43.119
where the Final four was that year. Then you guys lost, and those

485
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.920
two guys one was ten and one
was eleven, and they balled like babies.

486
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:52.759
And to this day they talk about
the because they've never been to a

487
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.799
Final four. Well, my son
Adam, he was, he was two

488
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.680
or three or four for so I'm
like, when we went in the ninety

489
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.039
seven Final four, I took.
He has no memories of that. So

490
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.839
that's the only fine FO he's ever
been to. So we had a lined

491
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:09.480
up, we had tickets, we
had a hotel, all that we made,

492
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:13.960
all those arrangers during the course of
the game. Then you guys didn't

493
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.599
win. That is just that is
disappointing. But you know what, like

494
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.960
I I really, I really truly
believe there's there's something there's something special about

495
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:27.200
not just this team, just the
program where it's going right. I mean,

496
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:31.599
you can look at the past and
you know it's not going And basically

497
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:37.319
a lot of devastating people that when
we lost to Kansas and because I knew

498
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.359
it was Luke and I and Gardner's
senior year and Bigodala was on the team,

499
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.400
and we just we just had Hassan
Adams. I mean, we had

500
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.759
Celine Stottlemeyer, Channing Fry. I
mean that was one of the I think

501
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:52.880
one of I'm not here, but
like it was probably one of the best

502
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:58.440
teams coachos coach question. It makes
the top five for sure. But let

503
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:02.720
me say that team last lasted at
number one longer than any team that he

504
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.799
ever had. You know, that's
all good. One of the things that

505
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.159
I think don't people don't know about
you is you're good and everything you do.

506
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:13.920
He's a good golfer. He are
you one of those guyss a bowler

507
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.320
guy? If you were going to
call a phono to be your partner,

508
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:21.559
Dude, I'm calling Rick jack of
all trades. I know, I know

509
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.159
you're a pretty good golfer. Are
you kind of what's your handicap or was

510
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.719
you? So? My handicaps are
four? But like I remember Andre when

511
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.519
we would play in the tournament,
he was he was intrigued by golf.

512
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.800
The Goodala and I was giving him
some tips and here and there and now

513
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.719
now look at him. He's almost
a stratch golfer. Know ping pong.

514
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.320
Me and Luke, right, we
used to battle in ping pong and he

515
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.320
was a really good team potber.
But he had nothing with my horseshoe game,

516
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.880
my bowling game. Oh yeah,
and then my golf came so yeah,

517
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.199
yeah, I got a lot of
talent with my hands. I could

518
00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.000
shoot it too, So I'm sure
you're pretty good darts to no real quick,

519
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.159
what are you up to? We're
going to take this? What are

520
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:06.159
what are you doing right now?
You're your instructor? So yeah, I

521
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.039
got my master's degree and I just
wrote a book, a training manual for

522
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:15.840
students. I wrote a whole yoga
program. It took me two years,

523
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:21.519
and I kind of went to the
yoga path at the college and the program

524
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.800
starts in the spring and for underprivileged
students that can come in and get get

525
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.800
certified as yoga teachers and get jobs
after they're dome. So again, just

526
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:37.199
impacting the community. For myself,
I'm really really excited about, you know,

527
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:42.559
getting this program going so well.
I hope I make you feel too

528
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.199
bad about that Kansas game. But
I'd had to throw that out there because

529
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:50.320
my son. He's still like I
said, he's thirty thirty now and he

530
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.920
still talks about that. So he's
just like my dad. Man, my

531
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:58.199
dad every like I swear, every
get together, he brings that game up

532
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:04.960
out like, come on dad,
yikes. Okay, Hey, if Battley

533
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.599
Cooper needs a body double, you
might want to look into it. You're

534
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.480
a little taller than him, though, I think. Thanks Ricky, Eric,

535
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:14.719
thanks the whole bunch, man.
I appreciate it. I'll see you

536
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.960
guys hopefully. I see you guys
in January February. IM gonna come out

537
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.000
for a pactuel games. Let me
know, let me know. Thank you,

538
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.280
man, I'll talk to you.
Yeah. Yeah, he's funny.

539
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:27.000
He's good. I think the world
it made him feel horrible. Yeah,

540
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.000
he's funny. Come on, like
I said, if Ricky, if somebody

541
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.199
got in trouble, it was Ricky
twelve exactly exactly. All right, that

542
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was fine, all right, we'll
be back. We got a fab five

543
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Friday pick Steve. We're both live
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544
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Breaking down the hall the ex's and
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Jake, and I'm trying to pull
away not from you but for myself here

599
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before we go on Jafo Morales or
our buddy from All Sports too. So

600
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I put a Twitter poll up on
the discussion we just had about you know,

601
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:00.800
who's the MVP prayers on men's basketball
as of now? Uh? He

602
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gave Caleb love kyl And Boswell and
Keisha Johnson as a choice as the choices

603
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and then other But it's a it's
neck and neck, But go on there

604
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and vote and we'll let's see what
we come up with. Okay, how

605
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many votes there? Forty one votes
already? Yeah, okay, so yeah,

606
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we would love to see your votes, and we'll we'll we'll, we'll

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circle back to this year before at
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608
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.239
the show. Okay, cool,
Okay? Who goes fab five Friday picks?

609
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.800
Man, I think you should have
to go first seasons. You're still

610
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.960
killing me, okay, and not
not that I'm feeding off of your picks

611
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.079
or anything. We have five weeks
left. I suck and I just just

612
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.920
want to go last. Okay,
Okay. The big game is the Dallas

613
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.119
Philadelphia, right, we got to
both pick Dallas, and so I'm going

614
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.079
all pro. I don't like the
college game, so I'm gonna go with

615
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.760
Detroit. With Detroit last week they
pulled one off for me at the end,

616
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.519
Detroit minus three and a half over
Chicago. All right, Well,

617
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:53.559
then I will tell you that I'm
doing that too. Okay, but you

618
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:57.239
know what I think the two times
I picked them, they've not only not

619
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.280
covered. Don't tell me that I'm
not trying to. They only have a

620
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:08.519
couples too. I know they lost
on Thanksgiving, and not just that,

621
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.239
you know, in our picks,
but I mean like I've bet on them

622
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.920
a couple of times. They've they've
they've they've broken my heart on your dude,

623
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.480
all right, I'm just trying to
wreck your day, right, So

624
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.159
we both got the Lions started off
well, Okay, I'm gonna go Baltimore

625
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:27.960
minus seven. And of course you
have Baltimore to think about their slim pickings.

626
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.360
So it is and it is,
you know, we because we don't

627
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.159
have We've only got the Army Navy
game as a choice in college, and

628
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.719
I also took the Ravens. Okay
minus seven. This is not, by

629
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:44.599
the way, I locked the lines
to make your life even worse. I

630
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.440
mean, they're playing the Bears.
They you know, come on, they

631
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:51.519
have to they have to cover that, don't they. Yeah, well you

632
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.440
think they were down against the Bears
at halftime in their last game they played.

633
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:58.719
So maybe the adjustments from from Dan
Campbell. Yeah right, Steve and

634
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.960
I are both on the Lions the
ring. That's that's good. You're gonna

635
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:06.159
have another one of mine. I'm
sure okay, Miami, I'm sure you're

636
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.159
going I do not have the dollphins
you don't like the points, probably many

637
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.559
points, too many points. I'm
okay with the points. Yeah, Miami

638
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:19.280
minus thirteen, I think, yeah, it's uh yeah thirteen. Yeah.

639
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.119
I've been on the Dolphins last couple
of weeks and they've helped you. Yeah,

640
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.519
I've chickened out on that. They're
the only team you won last week

641
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.559
in the big spread. Yes,
they're the only team that I watched.

642
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.599
I was over. I took four
college games and I lost them. All

643
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:32.000
that was your fuck, Kevin,
because you gave those out. You know,

644
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.519
That's what That's what. That's what
Steve said too. I don't know,

645
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.960
I don't know. Maybe it is
all right over too, but none

646
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.920
of us picks for mine anyway.
All right, well then i'll here,

647
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.360
I'll give you my college pick coming
in here. And I was I wasn't

648
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:53.760
gonna take this game because I never
get it right. And it's a hard

649
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:58.519
game to pick because the emotions of
it, the Army Navy, uh,

650
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:01.440
the rivalry, in the pageantry,
the whole thing. But I you know,

651
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:05.760
I couldn't find four five NFL games
that I could really get behind.

652
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.079
So I decided to take this game. And I flipped a coin and I'm

653
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:13.239
taking Army giving the three the Navy. Both teams are five and six.

654
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.199
Both teams have had their struggles,
but Armies on a little bit of a

655
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:20.480
streak here at the end. They've
won two games in a row, but

656
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.159
they did lose to U. Mass
But I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Army

657
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:28.880
giving the three the Navy in that
game tomorrow played in Foxborough. Okay,

658
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:31.559
that's good that you're going that way, because I'm not gonna take a college

659
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:37.320
game. Okay, my fourth game
is gonna be Oh. I wanted to

660
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.639
go with the Jacksonville, but I
didn't because of the quarterback situation. So

661
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.000
I'm gonna go with Indy. Okay, well, you know guess what.

662
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.639
Guess what I just just came to
me. Guess who was quarterback? Is

663
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:52.320
Gardner? Now I will tell you
that if if, if you know,

664
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.039
at game time, if Trevor Lauren, Trevor Larrench is gonna play, all

665
00:44:55.360 --> 00:45:00.760
I'll make the sneeze Trevor Lawrence please
play. But I thought about taking the

666
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.280
Colts. I thought that would be
too much of a double ko d to

667
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.960
have Gardner Minshew and then to also
take the Colts. I'm like there would

668
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.679
be no chance. I might as
well just set a match to the Colts

669
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:13.199
if I was if I was going
to do that, if I really have

670
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.960
a bad weekend, This is all
on you, just all on you.

671
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:20.119
I'm gonna go back and take the
Chiefs giving a point and a half to

672
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.639
the Bills that they're at home,
someone's paying, not that I need.

673
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:31.840
If if if, if, if
Mahomes wasn't playing, or if Kelsey wasn't

674
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.320
playing or something, I'd lay up. But check. You know, they

675
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.079
need to throw the ball around anyways. But I'm I'm not gonna take the

676
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:40.440
Chiefs giving a point and a half. I just think the Bills are just

677
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:44.280
kind of mediocre, you know.
When they have they play that way have

678
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.599
it. So I'm gonna stick with
the Chiefs. And they are at home,

679
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.079
all right. So we're down to
the Cowboys Eagles game. We both

680
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:58.480
have to pick this game, Steve. I'm going with Dallas Monas three and

681
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.679
a half. I hate the I
hate the half, but yeah, but

682
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:06.920
I'm going with Dallas three. Now, and you're going I had these picks

683
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:08.920
down. I I you know,
I'm not. I'm not well, you're

684
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:13.800
not gravy training are our which was
not good for you in it because our

685
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:15.760
bet is pretty much over. Yeah, I'm just trying to stay in the

686
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.039
top. So I gotta I gotta
keep winning as much as I can.

687
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:21.880
The problem with this is, though
everyone's gonna have the same bets. I'm

688
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.199
saying teams, Well, I can
tell you that you're so far the the

689
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:29.760
you know where the contest where we
where we have this heavy on the Ravens,

690
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:36.599
heavy on the Lions both let's see
Bultimore. Heavy on the Chiefs,

691
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:43.320
heavy on the Dolphins. Yeah,
that's just gonna will say, but always

692
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.239
saying the in the special, it's
heavy on the Eagles. That's good,

693
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.840
you know, more than it's almost
like it's not two to one, it's

694
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:55.199
probably like, you know, three
to two, uh, Eagles over the

695
00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:00.519
Cowboys. And I think it's just
the Cowboys reputation of not being big game

696
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:02.360
time. No. The good thing
with third home, third home, and

697
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.079
that's that's why they haven't lost at
home in forever, which is surprising to

698
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:14.000
me given the history and and the
Cowboys need to win a game like this.

699
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.000
It's a huge game for them.
They just do an important game for

700
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:19.760
them. The Eagles got thumped last
week, So I think they're gonna come

701
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.239
out with a little more that's and
that's my issue with the game, a

702
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:29.360
little more of a determination, right, But I do think that the Cowboys

703
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.280
being at home, that's that's that's
precisely right. But you know what,

704
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:36.320
it could be a three point game, and then this hook is not No,

705
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:37.920
it's not a good hook. So
here we go. Steve's got the

706
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.400
Lions minus three and a half.
Well, Steve and j both have Lions

707
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.920
minus three and a half, Ravens
minus seven and Cowboys minus three and a

708
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:51.920
half. Then Steve went with the
Dolphins giving thirteen to the Titans and the

709
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:57.000
Colts giving one to the Bengals.
That game is at Cincinnati though, right,

710
00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.960
right, right, the Bengals really
played well last week. Was surprised

711
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.320
only yeah, what's the name?
Right? He threw for a lot of

712
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.159
yards. Anyways, I flipped a
coin, took Army over Navy, giving

713
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:12.199
three tomorrow in Foxboro. And then
my other pick is the Chiefs over the

714
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.960
Bills. It's it's a it's a
really bad uh, some really bad numbers

715
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.559
here. Steve's Steve's having a great
year. Steve's it's almost sixty three percent

716
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.719
on his picks forty four wins,
twenty six losses. I'm on, I'm

717
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:28.320
on the opposite side of it.
I'm only at thirty four twenty four wins

718
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:34.280
and forty six losses. Twenty how
many wins? Twenty four? But what's

719
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.519
your point total? Fifteen? Yeah, because you've lost a lot of I've

720
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.039
lost all the all the added value. Gu I'm like two for eighteen.

721
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:43.360
How do realize you lost that many? Because that's a lot of points.

722
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.639
I can tell you what I can
tell you sixteen almost, I'm at almost

723
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:50.719
all of them. I am at
for a combination of the special and are

724
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.400
locked. I am five for twenty
eight twenty three. That's twenty three lost.

725
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.280
I've lost nine points off of those
games, which is awful. Yeah,

726
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:05.760
and that's that's the valuable points.
Okay, cool, I hope I

727
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.880
do well. Hope you do That
means I hope you do well. Well.

728
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.119
Let me do I went three.
I gotta get Steve, I gotta

729
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.360
get to I gotta get to twenty
one points and I just got to continue

730
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:16.280
to win. But let me tell
you, I went three and two last

731
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.840
week, which if I do three, three, three, I'm doing pretty

732
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.159
well. Yeah. I went three
and two and I lost ground, which

733
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.039
makes no sense, but I lost
ground, which it means everybody did really

734
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:28.039
well. Yeah, last week was
a good week. There were a lot

735
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:32.360
of perfect weeks and you weren't one
of them. And no, okay,

736
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:37.760
so there we are, we'll be
we'll be posting these tonight. Big game.

737
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.480
We're big thinking about you went to
the game last night. Women,

738
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.199
We didn't talk about them. Yeah, you know, they they crushed,

739
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:51.280
They crushed San Diego played incredible defense. They had like seventeen steals or something

740
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.239
like that. Is that what she's
gonna have to hang her hand? I

741
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:55.800
had, Well, she's always done
that, and I think, you know,

742
00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.400
as I was I was watching the
game and seeing the defense that they

743
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.199
were playing, I was realizing,
I think that might be why, you

744
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:06.280
know, some of these players who
come here to score points left because they're

745
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:08.679
being forced to play defense and maybe
they don't want to. Maddy Connor goes

746
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.719
off and makes ten three pointers that
but she wasn't a good defensive player.

747
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.719
She will step slow, but she
can shoot the hell out of the ball.

748
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:19.760
You've got to play defense to play
for Dea Barnes, and they did

749
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.960
that last night. But you know
when when when Pac Twell play rolls around,

750
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.800
it seems to me like they're I
don't know if they've got enough people

751
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:30.559
who can put the ball in the
hole to to compete with the better teams

752
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.039
in the league. Will find out
and maybe, you know, by playing

753
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.119
better defense and playing great defense,
they might be able to to do some

754
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:43.360
things. But I think they're very
I think they're really limited the offensively.

755
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:45.559
That's not a good questionally in this
league, especially in this league, because

756
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:49.280
they're you know, you always got
Stanford, but they are now two or

757
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.880
three other teams that are Stanford.
Like right now Colorado you see you and

758
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:57.280
U C l A US he's got
a player that like averaging like thirty points

759
00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:59.719
a game. Well, she's the
player that you're gonna be the players.

760
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.599
Yeah, and so you got USC, U C l a and in Colorado

761
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:07.719
who are all highly ranked. You
know. Uh So it's it's it's this

762
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:09.360
is gonna be a tough season for
them, I think. But you know,

763
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.840
as as if you talked about in
the inter press conference today, you

764
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:17.079
know they're looking ahead. Take give
just for a real quick call higher on

765
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.840
the air and I on the ball. You have to make this kind of

766
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:22.119
quick. Yeah, this is James. They just want to say it was

767
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.880
at the game yesterday. They started
off slow, but poured on the defense

768
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:31.119
and especially in the second half,
and they did beat Stanford's sisters, the

769
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:35.800
coach and the Stanford head coach.
Right right, do you see? I

770
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:37.480
mean, what do you see?
Though? I I don't know, man,

771
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.559
I'm not sure how this team's going
to flush out over the course of

772
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:45.239
the year. Yeah, I don't
know. I think the bench is going

773
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.400
to be key to be able to
contribute to on the scoreboards. You know,

774
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.599
like Helena she plays hard defense but
doesn't know we score a lot of

775
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:53.559
points and she was opened a few
different times and doesn't even take the shots.

776
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:55.960
So I'm not sure what's up with
that. But we'll see more when

777
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.760
they play with it Texas next,
and they got Texas on way big game.

778
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:05.239
Texas is highly ranked, so we'll
see how that goes. All right,

779
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.360
James, thanks a fun, appreciate
it. James. James is one

780
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.039
of those loyal guys. Yeah,
well he remember he went to San Antonio.

781
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:14.840
Yeah, in for the final four. All right, real quick,

782
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.760
before we hit the road. That
uh uh the poll that Jab and Morales

783
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:22.599
put up Colin Boswell at Keisha Johnson, both at thirty three percent as the

784
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:27.559
MVP so far for the men's basketball
team, followed by kay Loo Love at

785
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.960
twenty nine per Wow. Well,
three guys. Look, those are the

786
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.239
three guys, right, but but
they've also got then the guys at the

787
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.159
next level of guys are still all
pretty good. Well, that's a good

788
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.559
thing to have a three headed monster. Yeah, that's tough. And they're

789
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:44.599
all different, right, They're all
different, all right, So big game

790
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:46.519
with this concert to Marrows should be
a lot of fun. We'll catch out

791
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:50.639
there. We'll be back here on
Monday to recap all of that and we'll

792
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:55.199
see, uh what kind of revenge
Arizona can exact on Wisconsin on tomorrow one

793
00:52:55.239 --> 00:53:01.519
fifteen game at Kales. See you
tomorrow, I'll see you Monday. The

794
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:06.480
down the River