1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,600 It's the Big Twelve breakdown. Time were jumps Doctor Briste's year with you with 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:09,480 a comprehensive looking around the Big Twelve. I'm prison as we do each and 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,759 every week, Tom with go ahead and get to our hot takes for the 4 00:00:14,839 --> 00:00:19,160 week. Tom, you go ahead and start. We're shall we go to 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,839 this time Jones? Since Oklahoma stakes not playing this week and I can't go 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,839 to Stillwater for my hot take, I'm gonna go a little further south and 7 00:00:28,879 --> 00:00:34,759 we're gonna keep it in Texas. We're gonna go to Fort Worth and I'm 8 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:38,759 gonna go with the Bruce Webber pick of the week. Here, Neil Brown 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,679 goes into Amon G. Carter. They're twelve and a half point. Dog. 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,439 Give me the Mountaineers to get the job done. You know, Tom, 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,880 every time we try to get Neil Brown fired, somehow this man lives 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,119 to see another day. Did anyone expect West Virginia to be three and one 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,719 right now? I mean, they beat Tech who Tech was picked to finish 14 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,159 in the top half of the league. You beat West Virginia arch rival, 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,920 who was expect to be one of the better teams in the ACC, and 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,519 your only loss is to a top ten team in Penn State, I mean 17 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:22,200 in West Virginia. The way think the way they're playing here, I would 18 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,760 actually be surprised now if Neil Brown loses his job. I mean, yeah, 19 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:32,439 he's done well so far. And you know TCU not a bad team, 20 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,719 but they do lose the Colorado and right out of the gate and spoils 21 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:42,599 there, you know, Big twelve. You know, maybe not completely yet, 22 00:01:42,719 --> 00:01:47,239 but from the way we can see kind of spoils. They're coming home 23 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:57,120 first game back ceremony. You know, it's it doesn't feel as hot as 24 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,319 I think it could feel. But give me the Mountaineers and for Worth. 25 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:12,280 Okay, is that joy? My hot take for this week, Tom. 26 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:20,360 I don't know if it results in a win, but I think on Saturday 27 00:02:20,439 --> 00:02:25,080 afternoon when Kansas takes on Texas and I'll be there in Austin my first trip 28 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:32,159 ever DKR, the best two players on the field this Saturday are going to 29 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:38,039 be Jaylen Daniels and Devin Neil. I would take as a college quarterback. 30 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:45,039 I think I think Jaylen's better than than Quinn Ewers and Devin Neil. I 31 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:51,960 think it is a special back and a great receiver as well. The difference 32 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,159 though, of why I leaned towards Texas tom is although Kansas has some really 33 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,599 good top talent with those guys, they don't have the depth and the strength 34 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,639 and numbers that the Texas Longhorns do. And for me, that's what I'm 35 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,719 looking for, the difference, and in this ballgame should be an exciting game, 36 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:15,400 should be a lot of points. But Texas is a more talented team 37 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:21,039 across the board with more bodies that it's gonna make things difficult for Kansas to 38 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,319 compete with. I mean they you know, Texas always is, but that 39 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:30,599 hasn't stopped you know, OSU from winning six to the last eight or six 40 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,879 to the last nine or whatever it is. You know what, I agree 41 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:38,560 with you. I don't think Kansas can hang in terms of a number of 42 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,080 bodies. I think the game is close maybe until you know, mid third 43 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:47,560 quarter into the third quarter, just because Texas has so many rotational players that 44 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:52,360 are great even you know that you know they have they have second string that 45 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,560 would go and start on Kansas. But that's not saying a whole lot because 46 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,199 other than ou, those second string players with Texas would go start on the 47 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:05,639 rest of the big twelve, so Texas. The problem just has been coaching 48 00:04:05,919 --> 00:04:11,439 and not developing players very well. But line is sixteen and a half. 49 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,240 I think KU could cover. I think they could too. I think they 50 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:19,519 could. It's gonna be. It's gonna be hot. It will be. 51 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:26,160 I mean, where's your where are your seats at? I'm sitting in the 52 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,680 end zone. Okay, nine up high, I am in the upper deck. 53 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:39,360 Yeah, bring sunscreen. I don't wear sunscreen. Wow, I'm just 54 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,560 four. I'm just four, warning you. I'll be fine. Let's go 55 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,920 through the slated games this week, Cincinnati and BYU. Tom. I'll be 56 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,360 honest, I like, you know, these new members in the league and 57 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:56,959 everything, but I am very glad that they're being humbled of sorts that every 58 00:04:57,079 --> 00:05:01,759 one of the new members and their first twelve conference game lost. Uh, 59 00:05:02,879 --> 00:05:10,360 they were in for a rude awakening Cincinnati Louis's doe U last week. Uh 60 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,519 there. I'll say this. Their defense gave owe you a lot of problems 61 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,720 offensively, but they're that Cincinnati offense sucks. B y u h made things 62 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,879 interesting with kens Its. Ultimately, the Jayhawks pulled away in the second half 63 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,759 to win that game by US at home. Tom I think BYU, with 64 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:32,199 Slovis and company, they've shown they can put up points. I don't even 65 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,680 think Slovis is that great of a quarterback, but I'll take him any day 66 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,759 over Emory Jones. I think by Us offense is gonna be too much for 67 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:45,360 Cincinnati here. Yeah, I think so too. Is this the first new 68 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:50,399 member new member game? It is be interesting to watch on a on a 69 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:57,319 and that's on a Friday night game, that's Friday night. That'll be that'll 70 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,199 be one to watch. I'll probably tune in for the uh, you know, 71 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:08,759 for Skyline versus versus the Mormon table car. Yeah, Skyline versus Coca 72 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:16,240 Cola. Yeah, the the Chili versus the Colts. Yes, Houston in 73 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:23,040 Texas Tech, Houston's two and two. Tech is one in three. If 74 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:28,199 Tech somehow loses to Houston, Tom, I think we started to wonder about 75 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:33,360 Joey McGuire being a fraud here, because yeah, they have no excuse for 76 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,360 being one in three, but they sure as they have no excuse to be 77 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:42,560 losing to Houston falling to one in four here. Houston's Houston's bad too. 78 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:46,680 They are bad, I mean, and I think os Sho's real bad but 79 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:56,439 Houston may be worse. Yeah, that's saying something. Uh Baylor and uc 80 00:06:56,639 --> 00:07:00,000 Yeah, this is the best opportunity I think for one of these new members 81 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:06,079 to beat uh, somebody from from the Big twelve. Baylor looks bad. 82 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:10,839 They don't have a quarterback. U SEF. Last week they were able to 83 00:07:10,879 --> 00:07:13,759 put up some points on the road in Case State. Case State ultimately pulled 84 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:16,839 away the fourth quarter. There. Uh, you know, Gus small Zion's 85 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,199 good coach. I think this is a decent football team. This UCF team 86 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:27,360 is. I I expect you see have to win this game. In Vegas 87 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,000 likes this UCF team a lot. Two times they're they're nearly two touchdown favorites 88 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:39,800 here twelve and a half in this game here hosting the Bears. I mean 89 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:45,879 going to the bounce house, the Bears in the bounce house to get probably 90 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,199 bounced, I don't. I mean, I feel like the lines a little 91 00:07:48,199 --> 00:07:56,439 big there, But I mean I wouldn't be shocked if you know, if 92 00:07:57,079 --> 00:08:01,720 you see have pulls this off. OU and IWA State. So Tom, 93 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,639 what we've seen from OU is they blow somebody out. Then the next week 94 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,040 they win by two scores, blow somebody out. The next week went by 95 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:16,399 two two scores. This week play and Iowa State Pride Time game. Iowa 96 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:18,639 State's a bad team. I know they just beat OSU and all that, 97 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,199 but if history repeats itself, this is a week where OUs back on the 98 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:28,399 big blowout train here, right, I mean, and you know, Iowa 99 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:35,240 State against a bad OSHU team. They obviously got to win, but didn't 100 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:41,120 look super good. I think I think o U can run all over this 101 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:48,120 team. Yeah, I mean, they should blow them out. They should. 102 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,559 For me, Tom, it's so weird seeing an OU team, and 103 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,799 there's nothing wrong with this, but it's weird seeing an OU team that is 104 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:05,840 carried by their defense. They have the number two defense in the country of 105 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,480 points allowed, only behind Michigan. They're off to an incredible start defensively. 106 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:16,879 Danny Stuts stuntsman U. You know, Taylor Swift's ex boyfriend. He might 107 00:09:16,919 --> 00:09:20,919 be the best linebacker in college football. That defense looks really good and way 108 00:09:22,039 --> 00:09:24,519 better than I thought they'd be. I thought they weren't gonna be that good 109 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,399 defensively this year, and OU's offense has been up and down. Blake Hollend 110 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,519 has been questionable, and everything here. I think if I were to guest, 111 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,919 Tom, if you're OU right now, I think you're feeling like you're 112 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:41,720 in a pretty good position because the defense continues, dudes. Thing, I 113 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,960 feel like with Gabriel and some of those weapons, that offense is only going 114 00:09:46,039 --> 00:09:48,720 to figure out. It's only a matter of time the defense does it part, 115 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:52,440 the offense will get going eventually. Here. Yeah, I mean this 116 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:58,639 should be you know that you don't have you don't have like a case State 117 00:09:58,759 --> 00:10:03,759 this week, or you know, you get prepared for what they have this 118 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:09,159 week and then next week is Red River shootout. Yeah, so you know 119 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:16,039 this. I'm not gonna say this is a get ready game and and you 120 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,720 know, but at the same time, they should, you know, pull 121 00:10:20,759 --> 00:10:26,200 out all the stops, you know, work to you know, maybe get 122 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,440 to mid third quarter. And I think they very well could, especially the 123 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:33,200 pattern that you mentioned. Get to the third quarter, get them blown out 124 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,840 a little bit, and start resting some of those people for next week because 125 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,600 uh, you know, O, You's got kind of a score to settle 126 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:46,240 with Texas potentially, and if if OU goes in and blows out Iowa State, 127 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:54,120 this will be one of the better uh you know ranked matchups between OU 128 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,480 and Texas. Yeah, join in the next week. That I mean, 129 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,519 it'll be it'll be a real good time. Are you. Are you going 130 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,679 to the Red River shootout? I haven't decided yet. Yeah, I don't 131 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,240 know yet. It could be one for the ages. Chexia so better than 132 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:15,919 last year's game for sure. Uh yeah, West Virginia TCU. You you 133 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,120 like the upset of West Virginia, you know, I'm I'm honest, I 134 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,559 think I like the hot wave of West Virginia. Right now I'm leaning towards 135 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,159 that direction to West Virginia finding a way to get that done there. We'll 136 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:31,720 see how Ultimate Hell plays out. One more Big Twelve note before we bring 137 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:35,759 in Luke slave Ball here, Tom h that I want to get to Kyle 138 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:41,799 Whittingham, Utah head coach future remember the Big Twelve kind of ruffled some feathers 139 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:48,480 this week. He was kind of asked about the farewell tour of them playing 140 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,000 some of these Pac twelve schools for the last time, and he pointed to 141 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:58,320 he said, well, this is all kind of temporary on some of these 142 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:03,360 schools of the last time we're playing them, and that, you know, 143 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:09,519 certainly raise some eyebrows and ruffles and feathers. Is it's Kyle Winningham of the 144 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:11,919 belief that Utah is actually going to join the Big Ten one day, that 145 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,720 they're only going to the Big Twelve for a little while, or was he 146 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:18,799 referring to like, hey, we're gonna schedule some of these teams as non 147 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:24,679 conference members down the road. Nonetheless, I'll give Kyle Winningham the benefit of 148 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,080 the doubt. I think that you know, they're gonna bring a lot to 149 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:31,480 the table the Big Twelve, and it's gonna be great to have them here. 150 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:37,399 But I mean we if we're gonna be frank here, like you know, 151 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:43,039 we had to keep I guess one eye open on Utah and some of 152 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:50,320 these members that weren't necessarily the happiest campers about joining the Big Twelve to begin 153 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:56,600 with. I mean, they'll have Arizona Arizona State Colorado to play and then 154 00:12:56,919 --> 00:13:03,440 you yeah, yeah, well yeah, I know they that's there. That's 155 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:09,080 their bedlam for sure, and cannot wait. I think one of the first 156 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:13,080 games that I have no well, I do have rooting interest obviously, but 157 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,600 technically don't have a horse in the race. It is on my bucket list 158 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,679 to go to the Holy War. That is on my bucket list. I 159 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:30,320 did hear maybe not, you know, maybe not credible rumors. But where 160 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,879 does Organ State end up? Could they end up in the Big Twelve? 161 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:41,039 Potentially? Absolutely no chance, no chance at all. Where do you okay, 162 00:13:41,159 --> 00:13:45,039 speaking on college football, before we get to Looke, where does Wazoo? 163 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:48,600 Where does Organ State end up? The Mountain West? Do you think 164 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:52,919 that's the end all be all for them? That or a new version of 165 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,559 the Pac twelve with them baking Mountain West teams like that will be their endgame 166 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:05,879 here man, Yeah, that's unfortunate, active because that Wazoo Oregon State game 167 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:11,960 this past week was great. Yeah, Kyle Winningham Utah. Change your attitude. 168 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,320 You should be grateful to be coming to the great conference that it is, 169 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:20,879 the Big Twelve. I want to hear any more bitching. Get used 170 00:14:20,919 --> 00:14:24,360 to it. They need they need a quick trip. They need a quick 171 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:26,399 trip in Utah. Yeah, they do. They need a lot of things 172 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:33,720 in Utah. Look, slay Ball gonna join us next, joining us now 173 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,159 on the program this week, A very good friend of the show, Luke 174 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,399 slay Ball. You know him, you love him. Now he's taken the 175 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:46,279 Naval Academy by storm. Covering the athletic department there and join it up in 176 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,320 the DMV as he joins us. Now, look, always a pleasure in 177 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:54,240 time we get the chance to chat my friend and how are things in uh, 178 00:14:54,799 --> 00:15:00,279 just around the nation's capital there for you man? Thanks Tyler. Yeah, 179 00:15:00,279 --> 00:15:03,799 you know, I had never ever once had the DMV or the mid 180 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:07,559 Atlantic on my radar at all, And you said, take by storm. 181 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:13,360 I don't think anything can shake the institution that is the US Naval Academy. 182 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:20,279 It's a strong, well established, well run machine, and nothing is uh 183 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:22,720 is flustering it ever. So I'm just happy to be a little piece of 184 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:26,360 the puzzle that there so uh in case people don't know, you know, 185 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,240 we've been we've been having Luke on our show for gosh, what is it 186 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:37,600 now, three or four years? You were with five or six times? 187 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:41,159 Yeah, I might be six. Okay. The first time you're on with 188 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:45,080 us were recorded from like a Starbucks coffee and broken air. You were in 189 00:15:45,159 --> 00:15:48,720 a Fox twenty three, you went on, did some stuff with with Bally 190 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:52,440 and and Free Lanson and did a podcast with us for a while, and 191 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,120 now you your way to the Navy. I mean, we've we've seen step 192 00:15:56,159 --> 00:16:00,879 by step this uh, this journey sweet when we've been along for the ride, 193 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:04,240 would you, I guess, Luke, Well, even before that, 194 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,000 Tyler, I want to say, the first time that you and I ever 195 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,000 spoke was when you were hosting radio down in Lawrence. You called in asking 196 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:17,879 about Mike Gundy and the very uncertain COVID times, and I believe I met 197 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,679 you the year before. Oh u ku at the booth. Yes, yes, 198 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,679 that's right, that's right. Uh yeah, seeing I rise and fall 199 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:33,440 and rise again. Kind of When I say fall, I mean like I 200 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:34,960 was out of business for a little bit about a year and a half, 201 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:41,000 and that is when I took up the mantle of raw tools Rest in peace. 202 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,720 I guess there's a part of me that really wants to like keep podcasting 203 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:48,759 and do that sort of thing, but there's really not an outlet. We 204 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:55,759 were talking about launching something here on the yard that was totally Navy related, 205 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,840 but that went up in flames and we you know, gave it to the 206 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:03,279 Look. There's paper guys and some of the broadcasters that do play by play 207 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,559 for us. So I also I'm gonna good space right now, you know, 208 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,359 to be honest, here, if the folks out there, like Raw 209 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,079 Tools has kind of come in and out. I feel like Raw Tools will 210 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,839 never die, like it will be back, it just might be a few 211 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:21,920 years from now. Well, I mean, what was the primary content of 212 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,200 Raw Tools. It was the instability that was going on in college football at 213 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,599 the time, and then covering the NFL as much as I could dip my 214 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,119 toes into that. And I think the way that my career is going right 215 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,440 now, there might not ever be an opportunity to launch back into that because 216 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,359 I can't, like in my current role right now, it would be foolish 217 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,559 of me to trash talk Missouri football and listen my roommate like on my couch 218 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:48,160 or my co workers at the us NA, they'll hear me loud and clear 219 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:59,480 all day about you know how fraudulent and for NFL is watery is much weight 220 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:03,200 because now I'm sandwiched between two really good brands of football and Baltimore and in 221 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:10,559 DC now that Dan Snyder got out of Dodge, So I don't see that 222 00:18:11,319 --> 00:18:15,839 happening again. I would always love to join a podcast or you know, 223 00:18:15,079 --> 00:18:18,759 add my two cents, which is what we're doing here. But I feel 224 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,160 like these days it's better to just lie low and you know, be the 225 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,759 TV talent that I was meant to be. Yes, that's great, have 226 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,240 it for you. Look how things are going. Uh, spring of which 227 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:34,960 is just kind of explain what is it you're doing covering Navy athletics for folks 228 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,200 that don't know what your role is. Right. So this started out as 229 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,680 like a video coordinator slash intern type of position, and over the years it's 230 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,680 evolved to include some on camera work, a little bit more not capital J 231 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:52,640 journalism, but more of a journalistic bent, a creative bent, kind of 232 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,519 a strong arm in the marketing and pr side as well. If I've had 233 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:00,119 to boil it down to one thing, it's kind of akin to what your 234 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,119 regional sports networks do. I want to make the athletes and the coaches look 235 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:11,240 good. Tell their story, however best fits the medium. So at Navy, 236 00:19:11,559 --> 00:19:18,200 and they pride themselves on this, they have I think the second most 237 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,839 varsity sports offered among FBIS schools. I believe Ohio State has thirty seven. 238 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,559 We have thirty six, and Stanford is up there as well. I wear 239 00:19:29,559 --> 00:19:32,559 a lot of hats, it's a lot of video shooting, it's a lot 240 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:37,279 of editing. It's a lot of coordination, it's some travel, it's managing 241 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:41,640 a lot of social media. So my job is the quote unquote quote director 242 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,839 of multimedia. But there's a lot goes a lot deeper than that. So 243 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,200 I'm wearing a lot of hats. And with Navy, it's been interesting, 244 00:19:49,799 --> 00:19:55,039 you know when you look at their athletics, you know, in these you 245 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:00,640 know, post COVID times, we've seen these athletic departments benefit from having fourth 246 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,680 fifth sticks to year players. Uh you know, I think most notably this 247 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:07,160 year, probably Jordan Travis their Florida State, who's what like you know, 248 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:15,039 close to you and I's age it seems like twenty and here's all this treat 249 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:19,319 Yeah, here's Navy, who, based on their rules and everything, they 250 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:26,720 really couldn't adapt to this COVID era of college football. Yeah, I wouldn't 251 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:30,240 say that particular. I wouldn't say adapt, but it really I mean, 252 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:36,119 there are wild too, but it maybe a better way. It's I mean, 253 00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:38,880 it's up to the Secretary of the Navy. And I've known that there's 254 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,599 been a couple of waiver exemptions at Army and Air Force, the other two 255 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:48,839 service academies. But you're right for the most part. Like, and that's 256 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,319 the challenge of football. Like every every major break in college football has met 257 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,480 with been met with some backlash. There's had to be some way to overcome 258 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:00,720 it. Talking about the popularity of like the spread offenses, you know, 259 00:21:00,839 --> 00:21:04,759 Lane Kiff and tortun people at Alabama, how did people counteract that in the 260 00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:08,519 years to come? Why does Alabama now you know, not you know, 261 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:14,839 operate the same way because they had to adapt. That's kind of assimile to 262 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,319 what I'm saying here. I don't think it hurts, Like, like the 263 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:22,759 Navy has had things in place before, we have the prep school and Naval 264 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:26,200 Academy prep school or naps where people do you know, in between high school 265 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,359 and college get familiar with, you know, how life has lived and how 266 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,200 to carry themselves. I'm not saying that that is an equivalent to being a 267 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:40,359 full grown twenty four twenty five year old man, but I mean they've shown 268 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,079 in post COVID times that they can hang with some teams at the FBS level, 269 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:51,880 even you know, major pas. So I think that they have the 270 00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:55,200 right personnel in place and the right minds in place to try to get the 271 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:59,200 transfer portal, and you know, all that eligibility. I can't I can't 272 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,720 help but wonder, And this is just gonna be a deep cut between you 273 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:07,240 and me, Tyler. I can't help, but wonder if Skyler Thompson would 274 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:10,839 still be at Kansas State right now, if he were going to take advantage 275 00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:11,720 of those if he had showed up a little bit later. And we see 276 00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:17,039 twenty eight year old Skyler Thompson playing here for somewhere. Just every time someone 277 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,680 transfers, I think of him. There's a guy in Miami who's like going 278 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:25,599 for his ninth year of eligibility. It's a super super tough see crazy right, 279 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:29,640 Yeah, it's uh, let let it go. There, there's a 280 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:34,559 there, there's a time and place. It's it's like the you know, 281 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,240 I grew up going to church every Sunday, Luke, and there was always 282 00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:44,880 that one kid that didn't want to leave, like you know, Sunday school 283 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,400 children's church and move on to the youth group that wanted to like always hold 284 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,839 back or whatever or like that's what it feels like sometimes with these transfer portal 285 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,119 kids. Like eventually, hey, you're not going pro like give it up, 286 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,559 man, Like this this isn't working for you. Yeah, But on 287 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,319 the flip side of that, the opportunities to make money and professional football are 288 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:10,559 more abundant than ever before between USFL XFL stuff overseas. I mean, there 289 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:14,319 were a lot of quality players like from Princeton back in the day that went 290 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,400 and played in Germany and played in Finland and just like loved it. So 291 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:22,160 you know, it's it's it's whatever they want. I'm not going to tell 292 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,920 anyone how to live their life, but you're right, you know, the 293 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:32,920 Service academies in particular have a little bit of a special angle now that they 294 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,720 have to be in and out in four years and it's up to it's up 295 00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:38,599 to us to overcome that challenge. And like I said, we've certainly got 296 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,920 the right personnel in place to make that happen. Yeah, that's that's great 297 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:47,519 to see. Uh. And then the conference you're at to the American Uh 298 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,240 some ever changing times. Uh, you know, with with the moves that 299 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:55,680 we've seen with the recent additions to the Big Twelve out of that league, 300 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:03,319 SMUs headed out to the acc here American Mike Lresco trying to hold things down 301 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,480 as they can. What do you make account of the status of the American 302 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,279 and going forward, you know, trying to survive. It feels like at 303 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,319 this point, I think the American is gonna be fine. Uh knows what 304 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,000 it is, has good relationships with other conferences, treats their schools really well. 305 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,519 I don't see that being an issue. I did have the privilege of 306 00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:29,559 going to their media day in Dallas. Actually caught up with you while I 307 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,000 was there down at the Live By Lows right next to the Rangers Ballpark in 308 00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:37,920 Arlington. So great times, great times. But no, I think, 309 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:47,640 you know, we're kind of discouraged from using the power five slash G five 310 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:52,720 terminology because I think the American has shown that it can compete on the big 311 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,480 stage with the big boys. Look at two Lane last year and then our 312 00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:03,240 former members Cincinnati. You sef there with Houston, They're gonna have some growing 313 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:08,319 pains joying a larger known conference with a little bit more boof behind it in 314 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,880 the Big twelve. But once they start recruiting at their level and you'll start 315 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,279 to see recruits and transfers and people coming into the American Conference. We saw 316 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:21,200 it a bunch already with Memphis. Memphis looks great and Memphis took a lot 317 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:25,160 of you know, Oklahoma transfers and Ohio state transfers and Texas A and M 318 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,799 transfers and people looking for a better break, and you'll start to see that 319 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,480 happen a little bit more with a conference like the American. But you know, 320 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:33,680 I love the schools that we have. I think it's a really good 321 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,920 geographic footprint. And I can't make any shots on or make any calls about 322 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,200 what the conference will do in the future, but I think they were ahead 323 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:48,359 of the curve and adding I believe it was six new schools this offseason because 324 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,319 in this era of realignment where you're starting to see, you know, a 325 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,720 major long standing icon in the PAC twelve kind of crumble into the pack two, 326 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,799 the Americans safeguarded from that for the time being, and there their schools 327 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,720 are going to prosper. It's a it's a good conference. Yeah, yeah. 328 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,640 And you look at that league with those that departed. Now you mentioned 329 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,039 Memphis Navy, you know, Tulsa comes to mind, and you know we 330 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:18,960 said earlier you covered them for a while too. I mean, uh, 331 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:23,400 there's a unique opportunity for some of these uh, you know, group of 332 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:29,960 five American athletic Conference teams to uh compete, make their name may known and 333 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,319 in this new playoff that's about to start next year, have a chance of 334 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,519 exactly the playoff. Yeah, that was exactly my next point. I think 335 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:42,359 the two lane USC game is just like a prime example of that that happens 336 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,400 in prime time, you know, over the Christmas season or something leading up 337 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,240 to that. What a wonder that it would work for for the conference. 338 00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:55,720 So you'll start to see, Yeah, and I can't I haven't looked at 339 00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:57,880 the latest state people the day, but I think you will start to see 340 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:03,559 with this new era of college football, the opportunities at the Americans level. 341 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:11,160 You'll see a Memphis creep in. You'll see a two lane for the other 342 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,519 great schools that we got. So I'm I'm excited for it. I think 343 00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:17,680 it's it's a good conference. It's been really good. Like you mentioned, 344 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,680 I covered Tulsa for for two and a half years, and Tulsa's great. 345 00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:25,559 Tulsa knows what it is. It's it's it's it was great. Lucky to 346 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:29,400 be there for that twenty twenty season and in particular Yeah, yeah, definitely, 347 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,039 definitely we're talking to look slight ball right now as we're talking college football 348 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,960 at the moment, and uh Loca, just as a college football fan you 349 00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,720 are and everything, what do you think of we're at so far this year? 350 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,640 It is it doesn't look like there's one clear, you know, number 351 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,119 one great team. You know, in the last couple of years, it's 352 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,359 been Georgia, but they don't even look like themselves. Common theme, whether 353 00:27:53,359 --> 00:28:00,440 it's them or Alabama or others, of not finding a quarterback yet this point. 354 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,799 Yeah, and it's interesting when you start to analyze and break down every 355 00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:11,920 single position, particularly on that Georgia Bulldogs roster. You've seen so many of 356 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,000 them graduate to the NFL, some of them, excuse me, some of 357 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:19,640 them leaving earlier. And yeah, all the pieces haven't fit together for Georgia 358 00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:23,599 yet. But that's the one team where each year they've competed in each year 359 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,039 they've won the title. They've had a couple of rough go rounds, but 360 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,920 they didn't quite look themselves and they didn't apologize for losing. But I can 361 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:37,920 think in particular last year Georgia at in the Zoo looks like a shell themselves 362 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,119 and escaped with a win. And again there are no moral victories so I 363 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,839 think again, I would pick the Bulldogs right now. I don't think that 364 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,359 they have diminished too much to the point where I have lingering questions. Alabama 365 00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:56,359 has looked shaky. That's been well documented, not just the Texas game, 366 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,160 but I mean the team that we're playing this weekend, USF had him three 367 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,440 three in the third quarter. That is I mean that that's a marvel. 368 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,599 That's exactly what I'm talking about the American and the sense of optimism you get 369 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,079 now. But you're right, there are several teams right now flirting around the 370 00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:15,880 top ten that are looking around and saying, you know, there is no 371 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,319 clear cut winner. We might have this if you look at what Organ did 372 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,079 last weekend against Colorado. Washington and Michael Pennocks have done an incredible job. 373 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,400 There's a USC even right now, even if they're a little bit of a 374 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,920 scare with the sun Devils down in Arizona, State, USC will have their 375 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,720 hat in the ring at some point the PAC twelve and it's you know, 376 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,960 final full year looks looks really really good, and Ohio State will have a 377 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:45,079 claim in that as well. So yeah, I think this would be a 378 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,920 great year for the expanded playoff. But again we're really early into the season. 379 00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:52,119 We've still got to see how it all shakes out. Yeah, yeah, 380 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,400 for sure. And the you know, we mentioned that some of those 381 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,880 teams up there that don't have a quarterback situation figured out, and then others 382 00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:06,000 I'm looking at Luke have really good quarterback play. USC obviously with Cable Williams, 383 00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:10,039 Texas with with Quinn yours and you know Michigan with J. J. 384 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,519 McCarthy. I mean, it's it's one of the other. Either there's there's 385 00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:17,400 question marks, or some of these teams the opposite of the spectrum have a 386 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:18,799 great quarterback play. It seems like it's one of the other. Here, 387 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,079 we are starting to see the evolution of the quarterback position since it's been so 388 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:32,680 specialized at the youth level. Think of all the seven on seven camps and 389 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:37,319 the tours and the summer camps and all these scrimmage games and all this training 390 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,079 that goes on behind the scenes that was not available back when we were growing 391 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,640 up as kids, or back when we were watching college football when we were 392 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,759 in college. We're starting to see a new generation quarterback where the ross, 393 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,480 the ross skills and the talents that you see with some of these players like 394 00:30:53,559 --> 00:31:00,079 a Shudhur Sanators of Caleb Williams, of Bo Nicks, JJ McCarthy. They 395 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,559 are all unique, they all play to their strengths, but you can't really 396 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,640 pick which one stands out from the rest. I think Drake May Caleb Williams 397 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,319 are the ones that right now would be mocks number one. But we've seen 398 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,519 Caleb Williams in the face of adversity, We've seen him not have a good 399 00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:22,200 day and his emotional responses to it. There's a lot to factor in when 400 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,359 you evaluate a quarterback talent. But yes, I would agree that you're starting 401 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,720 to see this, this enriched quarterback plass and it's not stopping anytime soon. 402 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:34,839 Tyler, No, no, it isn't. And you mentioned with with Caleb 403 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,599 Williams. There started at Oklahoma. Here he is at USC coming off the 404 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:44,759 Heisman Trophy and everything here. I mean, I love his game, but 405 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,680 I do wonder, like you know, how much has he grown when push 406 00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,839 comes to shove, if if they're not playing well or playing from behind, 407 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,559 how is he going to respond to adversity now compared to what he did last 408 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,240 year? Because if we're gonna be frank that was probably the weakest part of 409 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,920 his game, is that he didn't do well in those moments. And maybe 410 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,960 it just comes with age, but I was a little disappointed when I look 411 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:13,680 back at the Utah game and the two lane game and all that last year, 412 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,079 and very curious to see how it goes this year. If he's putting 413 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:22,480 that circumstance. Yeah, I have some questions just from his time and O 414 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,920 you, but also just following as a spectators, the body language, how 415 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,480 he carries himself when trailing, when he doesn't make the right read, when 416 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,400 he has a bad play. That's something that's usually stopped out of you in 417 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,519 high school or early in college. And I don't I never saw that out 418 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,680 of this is gonna be a deep cut. I never saw that out of 419 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,960 Spencer Rattler didn't see it. I mean honestly, like yeah, like there's 420 00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:51,920 it's just and he's also think about how that's going to translate to the NFL 421 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,680 when he doesn't have six or seven seconds in the pocket. Caleb william goes 422 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,920 to the Chicago Bears, for example, like it's over, like like that's 423 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,480 toast. I have questions, but you know, I don't know Caleb that 424 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,119 well, so I'm gonna leave it up to him, and I think at 425 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:09,759 the end of the day, I think he's got a good coach. So 426 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,880 we'll see. Let me. While we were on the Tavery College Football here, 427 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,160 ask you about two of the old teams you covered and just how things 428 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,559 have changed. You know, you look at oh you they look better this 429 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,559 year, but I mean last year they start off pretty good and things went 430 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,759 downhill from there. Brentville Venable's doing things a lot different than what Lincoln Riley 431 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:34,920 did. The defense is better, but the offense hasn't been that great. 432 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,200 This this is not an Oklahoma team. I would say I'm used to seeing 433 00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:46,880 here at this point. Luke right and I watched the Cincinnati game. It's 434 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,880 from my couch. It was a big day of college football. I think 435 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,920 it ultimately comes down to what their play calling is going to be on first 436 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,359 down, how they set themselves up on the beginning of drives. This is 437 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,079 all anna total because I can't I don't remember drive by drive the details of 438 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,799 what happened when Lincoln was there, but it felt to me that they were 439 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:09,679 always ahead of the eight ball on offense, even the games that they lost, 440 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,719 like the Kansas State game in twenty nineteen, for example, it always 441 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,960 started the drive as well, like it seemed like they were able to get 442 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,840 down the field and get to the midway point without making it third and manageable 443 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,280 or third and long. And that's something that's gonna come with time, whether 444 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,559 it's Jeff Levy is the offensive coordinator or you know, you think Gabriel has 445 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:31,119 enough experience to make that work. He's been around certainly long enough. Maybe 446 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:36,360 it's just getting familiar with the weapons that he has. But I think, 447 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,280 oh, you is gonna be fine. Cincinnati was a test, maybe not 448 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:45,760 their first real test. Texas. They're gonna benefit from this transition year for 449 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,760 the for the Big Twelve. But for the most part, you know, 450 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:52,800 expectations are always gonna behind Norman, They're gonna they're gonna be all right. 451 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,320 And I always look forward to the sooner scoop coverage and stuff that floats into 452 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,079 my timeline. It's you know, I miss it. I miss Oklahoma. 453 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,000 I think every every day that I wake up, I cover something here. 454 00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:07,480 I'm happy here and certainly got really good access here to the program. But 455 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:14,599 something about that Big twelve football and certainly that landscape and Northeast Oklahoma, Central 456 00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,199 Oklahoma. That it's different than everything else, man, it is it is 457 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,719 unique that they're very lucky down there. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. 458 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,800 Uh you know that's that's a great point. Meanwhile, up in a 459 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,440 still water, Oh boy, I think you and I have been kind of 460 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:35,480 ahead of the curve compared to everybody else, just you know, seeing that 461 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:42,360 the downfall of that program was coming. And here we are and and it's 462 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,079 this, this is a new low. Like I haven't seen them this way 463 00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:51,599 in a long time. It feels like the days are counting, they're they're 464 00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:57,039 numbered from my gun at this point. Yet, well, you know, 465 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,760 I always thought that that is a position that he would have to give up. 466 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,320 Like sure, there is someone there I think is Weyberg. That's the 467 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,960 athletic director. They're still like there, there's certainly yea, yeah, there's 468 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:19,400 I don't know, man, that's such I would say the rowdiest fan base. 469 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,719 Maybe maybe not the rowdiest, but in terms of like that times Stone 470 00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:28,440 like the best fan base that like deserves better. And I love a lot 471 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,719 of fan bases. I love K State, I love ou Oklahoma State. 472 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Is I mean, you're playing football out in the middle of nowhere, man. 473 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:39,519 But it's like it's beautiful, it's it's it is football near its purest 474 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:47,599 form. I would say as for I haven't, I haven't seen much at 475 00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,840 all. Really, I haven't paid attention. But I saw the score, 476 00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:54,960 I saw the South Alabama one. I've seen the quarterback situation is not one 477 00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:59,519 that is set in stone. That they were rotating a couple of guys, 478 00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:05,760 including the coach's son. I you know, it parallels, but it's not 479 00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:10,440 identical to what has happened and Clemson. Clemson still has some really highly rated 480 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,719 recruits and is still a blue blood. It's still a contender, it's still 481 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,840 you know, it's still a significant brand. Oklahoma State has never had the 482 00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:24,719 never reached the championship heights that Clemson did, but it's it is a testament 483 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,119 to maybe not taking full advantage of the portal, losing some key weapons to 484 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:36,039 the portal, and then you know, recruiting and stag you know, stagnation 485 00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:40,199 kind of again, like it couldn't happen to a better place. I like 486 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:46,320 Mike. I always had positive interactions with Mike. I respect Mike. Something 487 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:53,199 drastic should happen. I don't know what it's going to be because he is 488 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,639 very loyal to some of the staff that he's brought on there, and rightfully 489 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,719 so great people, good men, good men. I don't know what it's 490 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,960 gonna take, but right now it's kind of sad. They're supposed to be 491 00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:09,199 the leader in this new Big twelve. They're supposed to supposed to carry the 492 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,360 banner for you know, top fifteen teams and you know, playoff berths and 493 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,119 all that, and I just I really I really wanted to happen, but 494 00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:22,079 something's got to change, man. What do you think? Man? It 495 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,840 kind of reminds me, Luke of TCU a couple of years ago, where 496 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:30,960 you had Gary pottson was the greatest coach in that program's history. They reached 497 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,639 all sorts of heights and some incredible accomplishments, but clearly they weren't who they 498 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,000 used to be and they were never going to be, and you know, 499 00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:43,320 they had no choice but to go a different direction. And I think you've 500 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,079 gotten to that point with my Gundy where the twenty eleven days, you know, 501 00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:52,199 Brandon Wade and all that aren't coming back like they as they entered this 502 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,360 new era, not having to play o Quahoba going forward in the Big Twelve, 503 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,880 I think that they're gonna need to go a new direction. They need 504 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,159 to hit the reset button because you and I have seen it, Like they 505 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,960 have the facilities, they have the resources to compete, they just need a 506 00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:07,960 coach that can get them there. And they're not getting results that they should 507 00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:10,079 be expecting. Not saying they need to be beating Oklahoma every year, but 508 00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:15,760 there's no reason why that team shouldn't be the best in the new Big Twelve. 509 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,320 Yeah, I was really concerned because I watched the postgame press clips, 510 00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,320 like the video clips after the South Alabama game. Mind you, that's a 511 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:30,760 home game, and they apparently were getting booed by their fans because they couldn't 512 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,719 get anything going on offense against South Alabama Jaguars, who, in fairness, 513 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,000 like run a decent program down there in Mobile, Like it's not it's not 514 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,880 unheard of, it's not terrible. But just the Marjin victory and the stagnation 515 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:50,920 on offensive and just looking at Mike's body language and just kind of the he 516 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,840 didn't seem moved. He seemed kind of exhausted, but in a more passive 517 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,840 way, and I could totally be misreading it. And I'm certain, you 518 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,280 know, I believe in him. I think he's you know, certainly earned 519 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,440 the benefit of the doubt. But that was just it puzzled me because that's 520 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,880 for you know, for it being still water Oklahoma, like it's still an 521 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,760 exciting part of the country with a lot of good things going on there. 522 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:23,840 Like there should be some fire and fury when you don't play up to expectations 523 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,679 there at Oklahoma State and in some of their programs there. I know that 524 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,159 is the case. But for football, I just I don't know, man, 525 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,320 I really wanted to work out again, like just Orange Power Studios, 526 00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:42,679 but staff there Oklahoma State has always been just it's a little gem out there. 527 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,440 It is. It's a gem. It is. Look before you go 528 00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:51,400 plug away where people can find you and see all the stuff you're up to. 529 00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:53,840 Man, oh, I can't believe it's already over. Well, first 530 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,719 of all, there are so many great things going on at Navy Athletics, 531 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:04,320 the n Triple A, thirty six sports, and you can see all of 532 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,920 them at Navy sports dot com. There are hyperlinks there. There's a page 533 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,760 that goes to our YouTube page. We're closing in on ten thousand subscribers. 534 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,320 We have a bunch of ot team material there, highlights, interviews, a 535 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,679 lot of football, a lot of football. Every time someone in football speaks, 536 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,920 we've got that on camera. For the most part. It's it's amazing. 537 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:29,519 A lot of special features. 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A lot of good things going for them 546 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,320 right now and pretty soon basketball and lacrosse around the corner. It's uh, 547 00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:10,480 it's a good time. It's a good time to be an Annapolis. Look, 548 00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:14,679 I'm glad we got to catch up. It was good seeing you a 549 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,960 couple of different times, a part of the Summer of Jones uh uh this 550 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:22,880 summer, and we will I'm sure'll be me again here in the very near 551 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,400 future thanks joining us. Man. Yeah man, we got SMU coming up 552 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,119 after Thanksgiving, so i'll see you. There might be an Oklahoma or Saint 553 00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:30,800 Louis too that time, but yeah, i'll see them.