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It's Night Side with Dan Ray on
delig Bzy, Boston's news radio. It

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has truly been one of the greatest
honors of my life to serve as vice

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president to our President Joe Biden.
Joe's legacy of accomplishment over his entire career

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and over the past three and a
half years is unmatched in modern history.

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In one term, think about it, in one term as president, he

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has already surpassed the legacy of most
presidents who served two terms in office.

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And I know we are all deeply, deeply grateful for his continuing service to

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our nation. That is Kamala Harris, your new presidential candidates for the Democratic

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Party, Welcome back to This is
Night Side. Gary tankwa for Dan Ray

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and joining us right now from Texas, the biggest Kamala Harris fan that I

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know. Let's go to Tomas Boston
Heremage, welcome to the program. Tell

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us your feelings on that comment.
Well, I'm laughing. You've probably heard

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it all the way from Texas,
but no, I'm not Kamala Harris.

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Yes, they know, Tommage,
they know it's it's called sarcasm. They

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know you're right. Uh, We're
living in interesting times. And you can

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say that what is dawning on me
is Uh. The Democratic Party obviously thinks

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they can get away with insulting the
intelligence of the American people, Uh,

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with almost everything they say. Uh, for them to pretend that she is

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a mainstream candidate, which she's not. Her voting record in the Senate as

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a liberal was worse than Bernie Sanders. And to think that she's had a

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distinguished record as vice president when in
fact she's done nothing except the outspoken advocate

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on abortion issues. To pretend that
she was not designated as the borders are

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as a means of trying to cover
up the fact that she did a horrible

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job and trying to deal with the
border, to pretend that she hasn't been

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part of the cover up. Yeah, let's know, I hear you.

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Let's stop. Let's break some of
this down a little bit. I want

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to start with the border. And
obviously you're in Texas and it's more of

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a concern to you than than up
here, unless you know, you happen

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to be in the Cape, and
you end up with some people who have

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been misplaced, and these poor folks
don't know where they're doing or where they

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need to live. But like,
when has the border ever been great?

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Well, Donald Trump was making progress
on the border and the wall was working,

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and you look at the numbers,
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shot. You just have to look
at the charts and see what the border

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record was during his presidency compared to
the surge of illegal aliens during Biden's presidency,

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and it's night and day. Yeah. But also though, Tomadge,

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aren't we talking about a time when
families were being separated, parents separated from

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children. I mean, there was
some inhumane stuff going on. Well,

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there's never going to be a process
involving dealing with mass quantities of illegal aliens

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all at once without having to impose
some rather harsh measures in order to try

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to enforce border security. The question
is which is more important protecting the family

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situation of illegal aliens or protecting the
health and safety and welfare of legal American

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citizens who are damaged by the entry
of mass quantities of illegal aliens. Are

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damaged. I've damaged. They're damaged
in the in the workforce in terms of

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the surge of illegal aliens to take
jobs away from American people. They're damaged

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in terms of these people who come
over in many instances have committed crimes.

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This is serious damage. This is
a serious issue. Okay, Now,

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now hang on a minute. They're
not hanging present. There are people,

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there are people who are also in
this country that will commit crimes. I

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think it's also unfair to stereotype any
illegal alien or someone who comes in this

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country looking for a better life that
they're a criminal. And then the other

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argument that I've heard, I didn't
say that. No, I didn't.

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You're putting words in my method.
I'm not going to let you do that.

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I said, these people come across
illegally. Some of them commit crimes.

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Now, if you want to twist
that to something I didn't say,

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go ahead and do it all right. Some when you say okay, can

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you give me a number? Doubt
about that. Can you give me a

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number? Nobody has the numbership because
they're so vast and and and the mass

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qualities of millions, we don't have
those numbers. Shit, Gary, And

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you know that, Actually I don't. I thought that Maybe you did.

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I mean, if you're gonna say
some, I mean your ballparker, you

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may have a number. Okay,
Now in regard to you, will I

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will you will to hear from people. You will hear from people. You

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will hear from people in the restaurant
industry and the service industry that that will

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say American citizens don't want to work
in this area, they don't want to

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work in particular areas, they can't
fill the jobs, and the jobs will

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only be filled by illegal aliens.
What do you say to that, I

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say, it's long as we have
laws that are supposed to protect the border,

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then those laws should be enforced.
If they're not going to be enforced,

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they should not be the laws.
We are a country of laws.

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Democrats keep talking about rule of law
and so forth, and do they ignore

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the laws regarding protecting our borders and
border security. So you can talk about

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people doing other things that are obviously
in clear violation of the law and think

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you're making a good point, and
I'm going to disagree with you. Okay,

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that's fine. That's fine. So
when it comes to actually we're going

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to take a break because now we
know how you, We're going to continue

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the discussion about Harris. And also
I want to find out where you stand

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between these two candidates. Talmas.
Harris is going to join us or is

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joining us? Right now, presidential
historian and as you can tell, he

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is from Texas, but we like
him anyways. I'm kidding. How much

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is back right after this on WBC's
Nightside. Now back to Dan ray Line

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from the Window World night Side Studios
on WBZ News Radio, Gary Tegwave for

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Dant time, Tom Much Boston joining
us here, presidential historian, political commentator

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and no fan of Kamala Harris as
we know, and that's one other reasons

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why he's here. So let me
ask you this, Tummack. You mentioned

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her voting record when she was in
Congress. If she does win the presidency

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because of Congress, do you feel
she will have very little power or will

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not have the ability to invoke what
you feel is a far left philosophy.

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Well, she'd be president of the
United States and therefore the head of the

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executive branch. Yeah, we all
know in recent years the power of executive

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orders, which has gotten totally out
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and their predecessors. So it doesn't
depend entirely on Congress. Presidents do unilateral

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things all the time. Many they're
challenged in court. Sometimes they're struck down

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as being outside the power of executive
orders. But don't think she's powerless and

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that Congress has control over what she
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Well, especially with the way the
court is leading now the Supreme Court,

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it would be more difficult for her
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wouldn't it. Well, the number
of cases that get to the United States

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Supreme Court involving the abuse of executive
power in any given year might be two

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or three or four. If she's
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executive orders that are at odds with
congressional law and laws in place, some

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of those are going to stay in
effect. We don't have enough court pipeline

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to address abuses in excessive executive orders. That's been a problem for some time,

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and it will certainly still be a
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Now we don't know. Well,
you just mentioned her political leanings in her

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voting record, but a legitimate concern
about Vice President Harris becoming the president of

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the United States is her lack of
international experience right where vice president will be

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involved with some of that, but
for mostly they're a figureheader, they're upfront

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person. Then they go to things
that the president does not deem as important

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to attend or something they can't make
because their kid has a birthday or something.

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But it is a concern about international
affairs. Your thoughts on that.

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Definitely concerned about international affairs. I
mean, obviously, the president of the

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United States is a commander in chief. We're living in an extraordinarily dangerous world.

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There's reason to think that with people
like Putin in the head of China

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and North Korea and Iran at large
and growing stronger every day, who knows

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what is going to happen in the
next four years. We better have a

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strong commander in chief who understands international
affairs, who understands the use of military

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power. And Kama Harris has absolutely
no experience in that area. But it's

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not just her lack of uh knowledge
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to buy her own statements publicly.
She wants to abolish private insurance. She

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wants to help here well, whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa. She backed that,

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She backed down on that, She
backed down on that. She it

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was a takesy backsey. She I
understand she said it, and I disagree

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with it. I'm with you on
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she kind of backpedaled on that,
and that's not going to happen. You,

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you and I, But that's not
going to happen. She has no

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chance. She has no chance with
that. But that's fine. Continue.

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I just wanted to set the record
straight on that. Uh, I'll take

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your word for it tonight, I'll
double check that. I know they've been

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showing that that clip quite a bit
on you have, but yeah, I

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know they're And she still I assume
she still wants to ban fracking. She

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still wants to eliminate gas cars.
You talk about an impact on American industries.

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She favors reparations for slavery that's coming
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Uh, she's uh uh So these
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getting back I want to get back
to incause some of those issues I don't

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think are going to come up anyways. Go ahead, and by the way,

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looking to I understand about the few
I understand about the economy. I

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get it. You're in Texas oil
gas. There has to be a transition,

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but we do have to transit.
We do have to transition away from

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fossil fuels at some point well,
we have to do it fruently. We

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have to do it in a way
that doesn't destroy American industry. I agree

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with that, and lose millions of
jobs. I agree with that too.

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It has to be done so that
you can Why do you think, why

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do you think so many people are
moving from California to Texas because politicians like

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Kamala Harrison Gavin Newsom. Do you
realize that in the year twenty fifty,

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as it stands now, there's going
to be more people in Texas than in

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New York and California combined. Why
is that? Because those people don't know

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how to government, They don't understand
the will of the people, and they're

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driving people away. I don't know
if you in Boston are aware of that,

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but that's what's going on. Back
to the international issues, Okay,

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anybody thinks she could be commander in
chief, in charge of America's place in

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the world, a woman with no
experience whatsoever, no demonstration of strength of

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any kind during her four years except
to be an advocate for abortion, and

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they think she's ready to lead our
armed forces in an increasingly dangerous world.

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I don't see how anybody could resec
conclusion, did they feel that way about

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Trump when he was first elected or
did you feel that way about Trump because

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he was untested. The good news
about Trump is in this election, we

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knows he had four years at the
HELM and for the most part in international

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affairs, he did a good job. With her, she's been vice president

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and done nothing to demonstrate she knows
anything about international affairs. So the choice

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for American voters as far as international
affairs, do you want somebody who's actually

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done it for four years with largely
good results, or do you want somebody

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who's never done it at all and
think that somehow they're going to step up

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and work miracles. Now, the
problem you have is, while you're right,

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those are facts, do American voters
care? I hope Americans care about

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national security? Backup, that's not
the question. I get what you said.

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Well, no, no, it's
not my question. Hold on a

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minute. You're right international affairs,
no experience with international affairs, agreed,

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And therefore, how can she protect
national security? The voters thinking about and

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my answer to your question one more
time is yes, they care, because

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we care about national security. And
if you're going to maintain national security,

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you have to have a president who
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chief. Well, would I vote? They care a lot about that.

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I think the voters vite. I
think the voters care about who they like,

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and I don't think an enters into
their mind at all. I think

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the American voter. Basically, it's
a popularity contest. You and I can

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agree to disagree. Oh, I
think the American vote. You know,

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American voters care about their pocketbook.
They care about inflation, they care about

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their wages going down, They care
about an invasion of from the border.

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They care about a dangerous world.
They aren't carrying. For now, in

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the first three days of the honeymoon, she's trying to establish some likability credibility.

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But as these facts become clear and
clear between now and November, they're

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going to care about national security.
They're going to care about their economic condition.

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That's what impacts them directly, not
who wins the popularity contest Tomage.

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For the last three years, the
economy under this administration has been terrific.

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Have you forgotten that inflation was the
highest in twenty twenty two that it had

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been in forty years. Yeah,
there was a spike. Have you sad

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that I have not forgotten it.
There was a spike, but over the

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last couple of years it's been great
and it came down and we all know,

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we've talked about this before. The
economy is cyclical. You can't you

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listen. Clinton balanced the budget.
Okay, so fine, I mean,

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what exactly did what did exactly did
Trump do that affected the economy? And

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I'm asking you what did he do
that made the economy so great when he

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was in power. Well, for
one thing, he imposed the tax cuts

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that really benefited people at three hundred
thousand dollars and the little guy didn't get

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the benefit. People think that's your
opinion. I disagree with it, okay,

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because I don't. I don't.
I don't think it trickled that as

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much as people think. Well,
you can think what you want. And

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all I know is who has When
you talk about trickle down people who is

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supporting Trump? We're working class the
people who used to support Democrats are now

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solidly behind Trump. If they're not
getting any trickle down a fan effect,

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why are they all in mass supporting
Trump? Because Trump feels like an outsider.

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They feel like an outsider because as
moderates they've been left behind by the

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Democrats, which is an issue.
That's an issue. But no, people

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don't even know. You think people
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don't think people know that they were
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were under Biden economy. Economy,
do you think that Biden has a thirty

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seven percent of approval rating because people
feel great about the Biden economy? How

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can you eat facts? No,
I don't. I think they had.

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He had a thirty seven percent approval
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That's what I think. I mean, you talk about a guy in

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Trump. You could talk about a
guy in Trump who misspeaks constantly, who

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who lies? Who does? And
they all do? But who lies?

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He talks out of is you know
what? He doesn't deal with facts.

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But people just feel that he's out
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follow his lead. That's why the
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that pocketbook. I disagree. I
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I think they like the color of
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like the way they talk to them. I think the way That's what I

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think. Right, You said that
four minutes ago, and I said,

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I respectfully disagree with you. I
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they vote about whether this person is
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and protect the United States or not. I think that's when they when you

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enter that voting, they're not thinking
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the color of the skin or anything
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to be better off with this person
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make that choice knowing that Trump's got
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that has lots of wars all over
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They're gonna have to make that decision. But in my opinion, you're not

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going to disagree. I think they're
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off economically under Trump or Harris?
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Trump or Harris. I think those
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will be the first and foremost in
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throw something at Talmage next. I'm
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That's coming up next here on wbz's
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Political commentator, presidential historian. Okay, Tomadge, Let's let's play a

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little game here. Do you think
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h is the fact that there's not
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hate I hate the TV show on
both sides. I hate it. I

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think you should take the money.
I think the Republicans and Democrats, if

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you know who the nominee is,
I think you could. You should cancel

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it. You should take the money, and you should donate it or use

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it for better purposes. I hate
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knew it was Trump, it was
a TV show. We didn't need to

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go through all that. Same thing
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it's gonna be Harris, it's going
to be Harris. Why bother with the

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dog and pony stuff? And you
know I'm in the minority of that.

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But what happened? What do you
think do you think the Democrats should have

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waited, had a convention and had
Shapiro or Mark Kelly or Bursher run against

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her and try to try to get
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certainly would have made the process a
lot more interesting. But when Biden immediately

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after saying he was pulling out of
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later saying and I want to endorse
Kama Harris, and then all the other

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leading Democrats thus far the section of
Barack Obama fell into line and supported her,

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And they got on the phones and
got the chairman of all fifty state

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delegations within twenty four hours to say
they were behind her, and all the

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delegates more than two thirds committed to
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It was all over. Yeah,
I know, I think that's I

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think that sucks. Well. Yeah, and particularly you know throughout you know,

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the buzzword in this campaign from the
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Trump is a threat to democracy.
How they can act like they've acted

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in a democratic fashion when Harris has
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one delegate, and yet here she's
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I just I totally disagreed with it. And I thought there was a

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chance. I thought there was a
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indoorstir. I said, well,
let's just wait and see what happens here,

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because there was talk of some of
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money, I said, as soon
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the money she inherited, because I
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what everybody, all the talking hands
were saying, well, it's very difficult

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to transfer the money to Joel.
Nothing's difficult. Okay, we have seen

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too many firsts. We have seen
too many things happen that people say couldn't

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happen. A reality show host became
president, right, it happened before with

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an actor in Reagan. But at
least Reagan had some political experience being governor

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of California and being head of the
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Trump became president, I said,
anything can happen. They said, oh,

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we have to make a decision right
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have one hundred days of the convention. The news cycle is twenty seconds.

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It doesn't matter. It's the shorter
the better because there's less opportunity for her

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to screw up. Okay, or
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So I think it sucks. I
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wish we had some debate. I
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think they hurt themselves quite frankly,
I really do. You might've got some

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moderates to come to the Democratic Party
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Even if she did come out on
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went to her, as soon as
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to her, thee hundred million that
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it was on Sunday night. I
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She's there. So that's my feeling
on that. I thought it would the

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base and the Democratic Party forever in
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large part African Americans and other minorities, and all these people who were so

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called potential challengers, they'd all got
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they knew that it would be political
suicide if all the tea leaves showed that

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Harris basically headed right. Well,
I mean this, but Toma, you

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know, it's probably a deal they
made with Biden, right like Biden says,

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I'll step down if you if she
stays, right, That's what I

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think happened. We don't know,
that's my gus. You know. I

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think it's like, you know,
because he finally, he finally bails because

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if he stayed, he was gonna
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I mean, I you know,
and I'm a registered Democrat. I

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think he was going to well,
hell, cloon, he's the biggest Democrat

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alive. I mean he knew it
too, but I think he was just

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gonna get okay. So yeah,
Tomach, how do you think do you

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think Trump makes a mistake? Does
he screw up? Does he say something?

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Does he do something? Because really, if you look at the numbers

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now, all he has to do
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The new numbers in the last two
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a horse race down to the wire. And do I think He's going to

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make mistakes between here and November?
Yes? Do I think Harris is going

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to make mistakes between here in November? Yes? And then will they all

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set each other? I don't know. Uh, every election in the last

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couple of decades, it all boils
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who Harry Pictures or vice presidential running
mate? Do you think a guy?

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Do you think you have to go
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right now, if I had to
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on. Do you think the Jewish
thing matters? I mean, my god,

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I hope it does. Well.
It didn't matter. It didn't matter

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for Joe Lieberman, It's not going
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you know, people are asking me, does it matter if it's a woman

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or a man? Doesn't matter if
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I think Americans want competence. They
want somebody who they think will do a

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good job. And I think that's
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makes people vote the way they do. They truly think they're voting for the

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person who will do the best job. And whether a person's Jewish or gentile,

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black or white or brown or Asian
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most capable person, in my opinion, to be able to handle the most

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difficult and challenging job in the world. Right, do you know what a

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brat is. I've seen brat it's
some term that's being used in music,

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and here it is here, it
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is A brat is authentic, confident, a little messy. They like to

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party, may say some stupid things
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these brats may be eighteen to twenty
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old. They could possibly vote.
So here's my question. Will the TikTok

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generation? Will they have an impact
on this election? I doubt it.

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I don't think those people who are
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I think they're thinking about being carefree
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and eating at the right restaurant.
So, Tomage, what if it's cool

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to vote for Kamala? Since I
don't know anything about that particular mindset and

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generation. You have kids? Do
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I have a son who's thirty six
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wouldn't I have teenagers. I have a

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nineteen year old and a twenty twenty
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I think it's insane. Okay,
I think it's in I think it's insane.

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It could have an impact because I
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vote fa Kamala, and I think
that people that had no intention of voting

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and no intention of paying it,
intention of paying attention. Will Is it

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going to be enough? I don't
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there will be people who feel that
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and whether it's enough to impact the
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impact the election is how many votes
Robert F. Kennedy gets well. I

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agree with that, and that's a
good point. We talked about that early.

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We had a pollster on from Suffolk. He's very good, by the

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way, Dave Pelly Logos. Check
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on the up on iHeart Yeah nights
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uh, Kennedy's that's he's a factor. He's a big The independent vote is

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a big time factor for the Democrats, and I seem to think it's going

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to hurt the Democratic candidate more than
that will hurt Trump. Oh yeah,

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no, no, no, it
will. It will. That's why Trump

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was buddying up to him. Yeah, there's no doubt it will. Because

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the Democrats are trying to separate themselves
from Hell. The Kennedy's are trying to

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separate themselves from him. Tom,
what You've been a great guest. You're

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always be very entertaining. I appreciate
your thoughts, and we'll do it again.

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Do you have anything you would like
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encourage people to stay tuned and try
to discern the facts amidst all the hoopla,

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and try to focus on who is
best suited to leave the country the

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next four years, both domestically and
abroad an increasingly dangerous world and and and

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and every day is important and and
there's so much spind going on there everywhere

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on both sides that it's a real
challenge to reach sound conclusions. And the

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only way you're going to do that
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Uh and And on the one hand, it makes for a very interesting

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year. I can't there's never been
a year that seems like it had you

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know, an assassination attempt and a
president on the verge of his convention with

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drumming. We've never had any of
this, you know, back to back

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to back. Oh, it's crazy. It's We've had a pandemic. We've

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had a pandemic. We've had a
president pull out. There's been an assassination

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on a president. It's crazy,
it's insane. We've had a total breakdown

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by by the Secret Service. Oh
my god. So you know that's their

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job and I blew it, and
I mean the whole thing. Every day's

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an adventure. But there's a lot
at stake here, and so as entertaining

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on the one hand as it is, people need to realize how incredibly important

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this is if we want the next
four years to be the best that it

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can be instead of the worst that
it can be. Hey, I said,

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you're entertaining, not the topic.
This is the difference I talked to.

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I know I still were going to
let you go, but I have

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to get this in. I talked
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and Young and I said, and
he talked about how their attitude is and

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these are my kids. I don't
feel like working today. Or I can't

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be in at eight because I have
a yoga class at eight and I don't

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have to be until nine. Or
I'm not going to work a six day

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or I'm not going to work a
second job because people like me have spoiled

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our children. And I just think
it's insane because when I first get into

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how about this, I can't there
to meet with the head of Israel because

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I got to speak to sorority in
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the same mindset that you just described
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of the protests that have been going
on when it comes to whether it's Palestine

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or Israel. I mean, there's
a lot, Come on, there's a

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lot more to that. It looked
there was. The Massachusetts delegation didn't should

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show up. They're here in Nan
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in the crossfires. They don't want
to piss off anybody who's pro Palestinian.

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I mean, it's nuts, that's
nuts. So I'm not going to totally

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buy into that. But my point
is is I said to this consultant,

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I said, if this doesn't change, we're are thirty forty years from now.

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Because they say workaholics are bad,
well, you know what, workaholics

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is kind of how we got to
be where we are. And if we

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become a country of people who are
just sitting back and not doing the extra

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said, we'll be a second great
country. That's my concern, the work

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ethic of America. That's my concern. That is definitely a legitimate concern.

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That one I'm worried about. Because
I talked to a butt of mine the

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other day who's retired as a dentist. He said, maybe I worked too

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much. Maybe I go, Look, the reason you got two houses is

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because you work too much. The
reason you paid for your kids college educations

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and they don't have any debt is
because you work too much. People don't

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get it. You know, if
you want to get ahead, you have

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to work too much. Tomas'll talk
to are in agreement. You and I

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are in agreement on thattage. All
right, we'll talk to you later.

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Be good, all right. Tomas
Boston joins us from Texas. Uh,

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My buddy sam Mitler's coming up at
eleven o'clock. He is I should actually

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should put Sam and Toma John together
at some point. That would be very

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good because I think he just he's
Sam's is a comedian. Uh. He

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is a political follower. He is
a writer, a producer. He is

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an Emmy Award winner. Uh.
And we'll try to laugh a little bit

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about what's going on coming up at
eleven o'clock right here on WBZ Night Side.

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Now back to Dan Ray live from
the Window World night Side Studios on

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WBZ News Radio. Okay, you're
stuck with me, Gary Tank right here

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until midnight dance, Get the night
off, six one, seven, ten

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thirty. Sam Metler, comedian,
Emmy Award winning producer and writer Jones is

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coming up next. He's got I
said to Rob, we should have put

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he in Talma John together. Let's
see how that would have gone. Uh.

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Both very entertaining, I think,
with different points of view by Sammy.

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Jones is kind of coming up at
eleven o'clock right here on WBC.

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All right, Christian peabty, Hi, Christian, what's up on anybody?

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Oh boy, good god? You
got the time Lynn on your mind.

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You're on the night side, Okay, Gary, hopefully I'll be better than

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that previous call. I don't.
It's a low act to follow. I'm

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sure you're already Yeah, right,
I could speak. I'm not bugs Bunny.

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With Joe Biden, I agree and
I disagree with you about Joe Biden.

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Where I disagree is I think he
still has enough mojo, if you

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will, to serve as president.
Whether or not he could get re elected,

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I'm not sure. But I think
the big challenge that he would have

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faced, and you mentioned it is
where I agree with you his optics and

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image. And you know that's been
a problem historically in American politics since the

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eighteen thirties. William Henry Harrison invented
the whole log cabin campaign, right and

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yeah, And the whole thing about
that was William Henry Harrison never grew up

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in the word happened. His parents
were wealthy Virginia. And yeah, I

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mean that's politics for you, right, you know, you know, I

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love it just reminds me of Bruce
Springsteen when when Springsteen did the thing on

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Broadway and he wrote racing in the
street, and he said, I wrote

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racing in his street. I didn't
even have my license. Yeah, Johnny

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Cash wrote about all these being in
prison. He was never in prison.

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Yeah, all, it's all a
bunch of crap. Look, here's the

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thing, here's the thing. Look, ye, Biden's a good man.

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And look, I have voted Republican, I have voted Democrat. I just

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don't I don't think Trump's a good
man. If Trump was a Democrat,

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I wouldn't vote for him. I
just don't think he's a good person,

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you know. I mean, that's
it. If Nicky Haley was running,

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I'd look at Nicki Haley, I'd
say, what's going on? I absolutely

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would consider it. It's all optics
right now. And unfortunately, because the

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news cycle is every twenty seconds and
you're on camera all the time, the

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president has really become such a spokesperson
and Joe can't get it done and he

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and that's it, Like, look, can he be alert enough to run

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the country. I don't know,
but it doesn't look that way. Lynn,

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And that's the problem. All right, I gotta go a good call,

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buddy, guys. Let's go to
Paul Innantasket. Paul, you're on

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WBZ, Hey, what's going on? Then you do it. I'm good

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for what's on your mind? I
got a couple of things. The first

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thing, that's straight in the country. You need term limits. You're gonna

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get that in, but everyone in
this says we don't really need that,

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So you gotta get rid of all
of them guys straight in the country.

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That's the first thing. Congress.
Yeah, yeah, let's talk about that

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for a minute. I mean,
I'm not against it, certainly not against

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it. It just seems it takes
so damn long when someone gets in there

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to make headway. So I guess
the answer is, well, if you

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have term limits and you have to
have a greater turnover, and then you

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would be able to I it sounds
great, but I don't I don't know

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if it would work because it takes
so damn long to get CREP done.

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Well. I think another great thing
would be the president's you're run for maybe

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six years. Yeah, Paul,
I gotta go. But that's not crazy.

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The problem is is if they're like
eighty one, you can't run for

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a six year term. But I'm
not opposed to that because that's what everybody

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does do They govern to get reelected. That's what they do. That's not

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crazy. It's never gonna happen,
but it's not crazy. All right,

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we're gonna make this one quick.
Let's go to Mark and dry. Mark,

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you get about thirty seconds. What's
on your mind? Mark? What's

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up killing? Thirty seconds? Thirty
seconds? Good night? Okay, Mike

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in Boston, make it quick.
Oh he's gone too. Oh we're gonna

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do rapid fire. But let's see
if we can get John in Boston.

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On John, make it quick.
What's up Jerry Mortgages? If you bought

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the same house you bought four years
ago, cross Street, the motors payment

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is double Kalala Harris. She paid
the bonds for the people who rided the

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and the riots the black communities,
uh three years ago. She paid the

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bonds and helped collet the defunding of
the police for how did that help Black

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America? That was black communities that
were damaged? Doctor Function's a Democrat,

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funny gain to function research that killed
a lot of Black Americas. Even Obama

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made gata function research illegal. How
was that better for Black America? We

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get illegal immigrants, we got we
got guys covered from terrorist countries into the

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city of Boston. We got measles. June thirtieth, there was the thing

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here in Needles in terminally. How's
that better for Boston? Gary? It's

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not even Bill Clinton said it's about
the economy, Gary, It's about personality.

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Kamala Harris's bankrupt. Her record is
bankrupt. I mean, John,

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you could you certainly have your opinion. I don't think she has a record.

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That's the problem. She's a vice
president, she doesn't she doesn't have

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any control. Oh yeah. She
called for the defunding of cops. She

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said that, I'm personally and personally
I'm against that, and personally I'm against

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that. So it's the less of
two evils. Do you want a guy

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that was willing to overthrow the government
or do you want her Sabbie who demanded

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taking vaccines Trumble? Was it Bien? It was Bien. He is the

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dictator, who's the one forcing people
to take the vaccine. Well, I'm

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pro vaccination. I have to go. But I mean to me, I'm

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pro vaccination. I'm sorry. I've
had every vaccine. I've had every vaccination.

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I'm pro vaccination. But I disagree
with defund defunding the police. I

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disagree with that. I'm not going
to agree with everything she stands for,

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but I can't. Again, everybody
thinks like I hate Republicans, I don't.

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I have voted on both sides of
the Aisle. I just cannot vote

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for a man that sat there on
January sixth while people were killed, while

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these I gotta be careful people attacked
our government. I'm sorry, I can't

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do it. Sam Mettler, California. There you goes from California. That's

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all you need to know. He's
funny, he's political, he's one an

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Emmy. He's coming up after eleven
right here on WBC

