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Mmm, hello everyone, It's Tuesday, April the seventh, twenty fifteen.

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This is the Giant Bomb Cast.
I'm Brad Shoemaker. Jeff Gersman's here.

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Hellow scandals here, Dan records here. I got a problem? What's that?

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I feel like my I got nothing
today. I thought my podcast batteries

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are empty. I should eat some
mushrooms to what? Yeah? Is that

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what you could in the battery?
How you recharge a battery with mushrooms?

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Yeah? I think it depends on
the mushrooms. About how you refill the

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podcast? Well, need to open
your third eye running on podcast fumes over

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here? The fumes. Okay,
yep, Well I might need some help

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here. Okay, all right,
although actually I think like right before we

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started, Dan delivered by salvation.
I didn't even have to ask, well,

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he just started reading off a police
blotterer or something plays blotterer. TMZ

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reports this is a great way to
podcast has begun. You're doing my job

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for me. Let's just get a
headline. Dmx ACUS and gas station cash

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grab. I guess A twenty one
year old guy in Newark, New Jersey,

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had an x on station early Sunday
morning said he ran into DMX had

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a brief convo with X, which
is how the article refers to him about

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rap music. They're gonna call him
X, then they should just refer to

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Newark as brick City, right right, naturally, But a member of X's

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entourage flashed a gun while the twenty
one year old was talking rap music with

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DMX and demanded the guy's money.
The guy had thirty two hundred cash on

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him, which he claims X grabbed
before getting back into his car and speeding

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away. It's a lot of money
to just be walking around with. Okay,

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all right, when you first started
talking about this, you made it.

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This is a very DMX said,
robbed a gas Yeah, this is

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very different than what I was from, which that sounds like something that well,

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maybe I don't know, probably not. You know, it's DMX has

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had legal trouble, certainly, but
this sounds like someone trying to get money

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from DMX. Well, here here
is the tweet that I read before I

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read the thing the article. It's
DMX accused in gas station robbery. Yeah,

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so I read that tweet, which
I understand why you would think he

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actually robbed a gas station. Yeah, we're gas stations hate this one gas,

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we're learning. We're learning an important
lesson here about doing your due diligence

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before you bring new stories to the
podcast. I was reading the tweet verbatim.

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That was not my report. I
was reading TMZ's tweet out loud.

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Also, are you gonna trust twenty
one year old or are you gonna trust

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noted hip hop artists DMX? I'd
go with DMX ten times out of ten.

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It is the picture that u X, the picture that uses him trying

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on a hat m okay, not
him as a gumba. No, it's

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probably what he looks like now.
And again, just clarify it was the

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twenty one year old carrying the he
was leaving ATM. It sounds like and

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then super, I don't know.
I don't know any ATMs that would let

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me withdraw that much money. Yeah, I think I feel like my daily

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limit is like four hundred bucks or
something. I tried to pull three hundred

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out the other day and it said
I couldn't go over two hundreds. Yeah,

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this might be a fishy story.
I might side with DMX here.

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Feel like somebody's just trying to besmirch
DMX's good name. That's what I want

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to believe, have faith in your
heroes. Yeah. Like, I'm looking

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over DMX's legal history right now,
and granted it's lengthy, there's a you

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know, there's but it's a lot
of driving without a license, driving under

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the influence while driving without a license, and possession of marijuana. I think

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the real question, though, is
winning all the stuff take place? Is

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this all before he became famous or
recent? Twenty th I'll just read you

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twenty thirteen, okay? According to
Wikipedia here February thirteen, twenty thirteen,

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arrested in Spartanburg, South Carolina for
driving without a license. I've been there

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July twenty six, twenty thirteen,
Greenville County, South Carolina. There charged

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with driving under the influence of alcohol
as well as driving without a license.

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What's he doing in South Carolina?
August twenty at twenty thirteen Greer, South

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Carolina traffic stop, a car he
was a passenger in made an improper U

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turn. He was arrested due to
out storing, outstanding warrant for driving under

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suspension. Four packages of marijuana were
also found of the vehicle is outstanding and

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he, along with the driver were
cited for them. Arrested November fourth,

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twenty thirteen, by the Greens the
Greenville Spartanburg International Airport Police near Greer,

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South Carolina, after my Airport who
were familiar with his prior arrests, noticed

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DMX behind the wheel of a vehicle
at the terminal. He was booked on

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charges of driving under suspension, having
an uninsured vehicle, and not having a

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licensed vehicle. He was subsequently released
after spending three hours in jail. That's

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just twenty thirteen. I can take
it back into the past. This is

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extra weirding me out because a lot
of what you just ran down took place

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about forty five minutes from where I
grew up. Yeah, so you I've

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done all this. Yeah, DMX
is following in your footsteers both from the

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streets clearly. Yeah. I want
to say he got in big trouble for

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impersonating a like FBI agent and a
parking lot. There's some crazy thing.

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I want to say. This is
like maybe mid two thousands. Are you

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seeing that? June two thousand and
four at JFK, he was arrested on

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charges of cocaine possession, criminal impersonation, a criminal possession of a weapon,

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criminal mischief. Menacing and driving under
the influence of drugs or alcohol while claiming

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to be a federal agent and attempting
to car jack a vehicles accounts criminal mischief.

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And what was the one after that? Menacing? Menacing? That's something

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that's beyond the ear. It's like
Mayhem. Like, if you get charged

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with Mayhem, you're fucking you've done
something right. D MEX getting charged with

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cartoon violence. Yeah, he was
given a conditional discharge on December eight,

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two thousand and four, but pled
guilty on October twenty fifth, two thousand

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and five for violating parole. I
always feel like the split falls at the

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time the the person became famous,
you know, like like less lots of

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less criminal, like lots lots of
people, lots of famous people, lots

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of big celebrity actors and musicians have
Look at Destin Bieber started getting in trouble

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once he got a super Well that's
what I'm saying, Like, you know,

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he's now he's got to get hard. DMX was already hard, but

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he's but he's continuing to be is
what I'm saying. Yeah, maybe he

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believes he has to uphold his reputation, you know, plenty of plenty of

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famous people realize that they got it
good and kind of you know, I

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bet it was because that roller coaster
video. That's a great video. That

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is a great video. Yeah,
I think that you know that there's definitely

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some like that would be the common
sense approach. I think hip hop sometimes

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works against the grain and some of
that stuff. Bobby Schmurda, for example,

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who he's a he's did he played
for the Orioles? Yeah he did.

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Yeah, he's there closing picture.
Uh yeah, he's uh he I

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think he might still be in jail. I'm not sure if he's out yet,

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but he he was on a jail
on a game conspiracy and gun charges.

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You find a lot of gun charges, and so you'll find, like

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you know, rappers with an entourage. We'll have a guy it's like,

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okay, dude, we're friends from
way back. It is now your job

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to hold the weed and go down
for that charge. If we get pulled

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over, if the tour bus gets
stopped, this is all yours. I

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am paying you for this. You
will go to jail for it. Like

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this is code of silence. Like
that's that's that seems like that's kind of

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like you know, there's one guy
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Wow is that explicitly stated to Oh
no, it's just kind of assumed

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that, Hey, if the cops
come, well no, no, I

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mean I probably yes, but not
in you know, you're not going to

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find a contract that says right,
but I mean like what they Yeah,

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okay, yeah, I think that's
the Yeah, it's like, okay,

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you know, I've got to stay
out here and get this money and and

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beyond this tour and all this other
stuff. So as part of the crew

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here that everyone plays a role and
it's in the crew's best interest at the

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Star keeps making money exact. So
yeah, I guess that makes sense.

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I love that. I love the
Willie Nelson h since we're talking about famous

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rap sure, yeah, yeah,
it has no time for such a system.

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He just goes down. Oh yeah, Like I've read an article in

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Rolling Stone a little while back about
him and like you know how many times

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he's been to jail for for weed
possession on top of the White Mouse.

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Yes, yes, you talked about
that story in fact, but like just

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like would get out of the stir
and I mean, you know, like

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and like blaze joint on the way
home in the car, you know,

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like just does not give a fuck. You know. It's so he's in

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his eighties now, yeah, right, and still doing that like he's been

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in his eighties for like three decades. That's fair, That is fair.

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Yeah. Uh, but in this
case, it sounds like, yeah,

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it was not DMX perpetrating the robbery
allegedly. Yeah. I mean, we're

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making lots of russes and assumptions here. So say the entreve pulled the gun,

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but the way the article states it
is that X actually grabbed the cash

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and jump in the car. That's
what the article states. Okay, all

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right, So I want to be
smartched the good name of show to DMX

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told you that upfront, don't.
I mean, like that's at some point,

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well, I'm I will be curious
to see how this ends up,

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how it's going down on this one. But that yeah, if he's really

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got money troubles, he should uh
approach both us and Nintendo. Maybe we

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could work out some kind of three
way split on this DMX Guma business.

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Yeah right, I think that's got
plenty of franchise potential. It's got legs,

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yep, merchandise directly under his head. I mean sure, Oh boy,

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uh Dan, how are you feeling? I'm feeling great. Yeah,

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yeah, it's good to hear.
Yeah, are your whole? Are your

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innerds back together? Yeah? I'm
gonna try to kickbox tonight. We'll see

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if that. Uh what three days
after getting out of the hospitals in the

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emergency room on Friday, Yes,
I did nothing all week and uh so

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I think I rested everything. I'm
feeling pretty good right now. I know

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my appendix is not going to explode, which was a concern on Friday,

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at least not because of recent events. I mean, it may still exploit.

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You know, I was pretty scared
when the actor urgent care told me,

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like, hey, you should go
to the emergency room in case you

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have like really bad appendiciis in your
panics. It's alarming when anyone tells you

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that much less medical profession. Yeah
yeah, yeah, you should probably go

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to the real hospital. You never
had a major operation, ah yeah,

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yeah, okay, yep. So
I deal with him, all right.

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No stranger to go under under the
knife, because that you know, that

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might have been like, hey,
you need to go into surgery right now.

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Oh, Honestly, if they would
have said, hey, we got

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to take it out right now,
like I would have been totally fine with

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that, like if I'm out,
Like, yeah, medical stuff is great.

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I mean they put a thing in
you and then they can cut you

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open or drill holes into your skull
at the demist office. Don't wake up,

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you don't yet. Incredible, that's
sure, He's amazing. No,

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I know, one hundred years ago, it'd be the worst thing in the

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world course to be sticking leeches on
you somewhere and going like this will probably

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do it. I don't give you
a piece of cork to bite down on

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while they cut your arm off.
Here, smell this weird chemical? Did

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that do anything? No? All
right, try this one. All right,

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both these at the same time.
There we go smelling salts work.

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I've had that at the hospital situation. Doctors have done that to like wake

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me up and it wakes you right
the fuck up? Are they using no

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torque? Oh god, that's their
medical medical grade smelling salt. I don't

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know if we still have that around
here. I don't know what happened to

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the Yeah, someone ran off from
the nose torque, which is more frightening.

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So you were prescribed a lot of
what bed rest? Yeah, they

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just said to take it easier or
whatever, and uh, I'm taking eighteen

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hours of blood Born. I probably
played eighteen hours of blood Borne this weekend.

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Got around in pajama pants and that's
all I did all weekend. All

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right, Well, since you said
the name of blood Born, oh,

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I guess we should just do this. Oh because under jeftment planet. Yeah,

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that ended up being a little bit
my weekend in a lot of ways.

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Sunday more than than Saturday, I
guess. But yeah, I fooled

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around that thing. My girlfriend was
out of town, so I was like,

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you know, kind of sitting around
and on like, well, now

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what, Well you had your exploratory
moment on unprofessional Friday, right, yeah,

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Premium members will remember probably, Yeah, fired it up for the first

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time, really kicked kicked Travis's journey
off. And the eldritch lovecrafty and horror

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of this in is weird fake sword
it turns into a not sword or yeah,

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it's a weird weapon. But yeah, I mean all the weapons are

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weird. Saw Cleveland. Yeah,
it's like a big razor that snaps back

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and forth. Yeah, sharp on
both ends. I guess, yeah,

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yeah, it's it's a dangerous looking
thing. It seems like you would hurt

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yourself with it pretty easily. I'm
in the last area and that's still the

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weapon I'm using. Wait for sure, the last area. Yeah, I

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like, do they tell you that
or did you look it up? I

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mean I was streaming and people were
telling me I've got done all the optional

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areas. Okay, uh yeah,
I don't know. All right, that

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game we have, it doesn't seem
especially like like it's weird going from because

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I fooled around with the Dark Souls
games I played, tried to play a

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little Demon Souls, and every step
of the way it was just like all

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right, this is just like arcane
and frustrating and like not, I'm not

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interested in this at all. So
I tried Bloodborn, and you know,

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it's it was interesting coming out of
like having like live stream to the first

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hour of me playing that game,
because that's usually that's about the bulk that

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I played of Dark Souls too,
was about an hour and went, man,

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fuck this, I'm not interested in
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descript people describing what the rest of
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the start of the game, like
there was nothing about it. Then maybe

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you want to go back with this. Obviously, I mean, you know,

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I got pulled, But so the
thing that happened is like a ton

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of people were like, man,
you're really good, and and like,

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man, you did really well.
Like you you basically like blew past me,

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or you know, some variant of
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of people saying that I was doing
really well at it, to which I

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say, what the fuck is wrong
with people? It's not like nothing I

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did in that initial hour like is
like especially difficult. Like guys come at

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you, you fucking step out of
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and then you realize, oh wait, I don't need to step out

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of the way. I could just
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Like there's nothing like like you take
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there's the situation where like, oh
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know, stunned here and I'm taking
more damage because I'm stunned and I can't

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roll away, like you end up
in those situations. But like hearing people

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describe like these games, like like
this game you know as like, so

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it's so hard to go so fuck
like what, Yeah, I don't know

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if that's a lot of people playing
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where that's coming from, or if
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kind of up its own ass about
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like there are challenging moments, like
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to some extent, but like,
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smart about like, yeah, if
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rush up and just you know,
mash. If there are fucking three guys

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standing somewhere, you run up and
murdered them. You get so many healing

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items that can turn bad really quick
if they've got you in a thing and

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they're staggering, you can. But
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know, like I played that first
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people like, oh, you're doing
so well, Like oh my god,

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well, like there's nothing you just
step aside. Yeah. I think people

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for assume that since you hadn't played
it before, that you were just gonna

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go in like some Dynasty Warriors.
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of how I'm playing that area now. Yeah, yeah, well you've leveled

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up significantly, I assume at this
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but it's like it's two or three
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like I it's like plus three now
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the tactics haven't changed, you know, those guys are still not able to

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get attacks in. So it's just
that thing of like you just do to

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them what they would do to you, and everything's fine. Sure, So

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it's just weird. I don't know, like there's a huge disconnect for me,

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like of people saying like I don't
like like okay, because I think

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about like that initial hour and and
what I had to do in it of

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pressing the circle button to step aside
and then hit people or like stick and

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move tactics like stuff that would be
like blatantly obvious and apparent, and like

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a lot of games sort of do
like the idea that like that's like,

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oh man, you're doing so good, Like I just I don't understand.

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Well, So I don't think the
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area are especially hard right Like there, it's quite straightforward. You know how

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you don't. It doesn't take a
lot of thought to work out how to

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face off against those guys. Uh
yeah, but the game I have found

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so I've been playing a little bit
of Dark Souls too on the PS four,

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which I'll talk about a little bit
later, but playing that has reminded

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me, or not reminded me.
It's kind of made me realize that blood

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Borne is pretty lenient about certain things, like like the way the dodge works

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and how much invincibility you get when
you dodge through attacks, which is a

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lot, yeah, compared to Dark
Souls too. Like it. And you

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know, like you said, the
healing items are everywhere. You don't you're

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not stuck in place when you use
them like you used to be in the

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old games. Like they're definitely you
know, there's definitely some things, some

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aids that make that stuff a lot
more pleasant. Jeff, how would you

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compare this to fighting games? I
think it's like there's a tactical similarity of

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like I mean, there's a precision
to it, or there there's some precision

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to it that you might expect out
of like a fighting game or something like

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that, But you know, you'd
also expect that out of punch out,

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the enemy swings at you, you
do something about it. You know,

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if you had a shield, you
would block, if you could block,

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you could block. But you know, like you just you step around it

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and then murder them while they're in
their swing animation. And that seems to

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be the entire game. That's It's
absolutely not the entire game, Like Dan

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Dan could a test like that.
That's that's the first, Like it is

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the first like eight hours or something
for sure. So what does it become

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then? Like what's the It's just
a lot of what's the A lot of

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enemies with different methodologies basically like I'm
running into these enemies now that if they

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grab you, they will suck your
face and take all your inside away basically,

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And so what is inside? Uh? It's like it's like a weird

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nebulous currency that you spend on multiplayer, but then you also can buy items

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with it, and the more you
have the heart of the enemies? Are

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I have eleven? Now? Is
that bad? No? I think too

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much about fifteen. I was at
like forty six when I started streaming,

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and people were like, what are
you doing? Why do you have that

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high of inside? I was like, oh, I didn't realize it's making

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this tough. Ye, yeah that
I did notice that when I was streaming.

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Is he about people that are up
their own ass about you know,

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the difficulty or whatever. I did
have plenty of people in the chat they're

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just like, God, I can't
believe you passed there, Like oh,

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if you walk off that ledge right
there, you can drop down to this,

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or oh if you do this attack
or whatever's like the Soul's faces fan

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bases. Yeah, it is legendary
for being nitpicky, Like I mean,

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people did that when we were playing
Persona four people. I can't believe how

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fucking diffusing incorrectly. They need to
do this like a double guess what,

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we still beat the game. Fuck
off. Everybody's an expert whatever. Yeah,

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there's stuff you gotta do, like
when you're going into an area,

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you have to kind of prepare to
where it's like, well, I know

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this area is super poisonous, like
there's this poisonous water everywhere, so you

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gotta put on here all like your
church garb or whatever to make sure you're

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good on that. Damn it,
dude, I fucking went back and found

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that place. I don't know if
there's more than one that you're talking about

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with all the green water or whatever
and all the weird like slug things going

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around and the guy's the little things. Oh, you might be talking about

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kind of the forest. All right, let me ask this plainly. Is

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there more than one area in this
game we're standing on the floor poisons you.

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Uh, there's a couple. I'm
thinking of one area in general.

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Have you had the guy the Johnt
guys throwing rocks at you? Yeah,

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but they're poison there. Okay,
there's unless that's deeper. Are you talking

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about nightmare friends here? Yeah?
Yeah, I must not a guy.

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I got to the first guys to
throw rocks at you, and when one

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killed me one hit, I was
like, nope, I'm out. No,

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Like so right there, there's this
huge poisonous lake, and so you

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know, I put on all this
like church garb or whatever. And then

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they also had to like load yourself
up with antidotes and things like that.

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I didn't even know that, like
there's going to be this brain enemy that

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like induces frenzy on you, and
so you also have to have like sedatives

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ready or it's some preparation. I
feel hypocritical because I think a lot of

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the things that I praise this for
are the things that I should on Monster

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Hunter for. But I just I
like this more. But yeah, it's

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preparation and just enemy tactics, not
even just bosses become much more difficult to

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deal with than those kind of slow
plotting humans from that first village area,

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which I know you're past the Father
now, so you've mostly been fighting those

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You've seen some dogs, a couple
of sniper guys. You know, you

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do the dogs. You hit him
with your cutlaver, Yeah, cut them.

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Yeah, none of that stuff you
cut them. None of that stuff

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that you fought is as like remotely
as difficult as some or not even I

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would hope, I would hope that
it gets more difficult. Rephrase that,

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I mean not even so much.
I mean, yeah, it's harder,

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but mostly because it's just a pain
in the ass. And that's the kind

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of my other thing with that game
is that a lot of it just seems

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like a pain in the ass.
Yeah, it seems like, Okay,

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well you're gonna get up to the
boss and fight and lose, and then

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you have to hack your way through
these guys again. Unless you've opened a

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door, then you can hack your
way through a slaly different path. The

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filtering mechanism for the Souls games is
what is your tolerance for bullshit? Like

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that's really what it is. It's
like if you can, if you can

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feel like, oh, I got
stuck in a corner and I died to

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that boss when he needed like he
had like you know, two hits left,

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and I want to get up and
go fight him again immediately, then

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you should play those games. But
if that happens and you never want to

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touch it again, then it's not
for you, you know. Yeah,

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Like I think the amount of bullshit
it throws at you makes it so much

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better when like you do unlike that
shortcut, like you turn on that elevator

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or you find a lamp or something. It's like, oh my god,

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I never have to do that shit
again. Like I don't know. It's

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always the hallmark of it's best games. But it's actually it is a good

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feeling. It is super satisfying.
You're right, Like, it's it's obvious

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why people like those games. I
mean, because the progress is like is

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definitive, Like you're like, oh
fucking great, okay, cool, I

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can go back and do this,
or like the desperation that you can feel

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knowing like oh my god, I've
got ninety thousand souls and like I can

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see the short cut ahead, but
I've got one healing item what like you

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know, and you a mad walk
into a boss room or something like oh

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fuck, just like that mad dash
to the shortcut. Like it's like if

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I just make it to that door, everything will be fine. I like

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none of this will have been for
nothing. You know, like that that

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is like a it's a I don't
want to say, a unique feeling,

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but it's accelerating, you know,
like it's it's profound, but yeah,

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it's just it's like yeah, exactly, because if you don't make that,

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then it's like, well, okay, now I've memorized the placement of every

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single enemy in this area, because
it's like, Okay, pull this guy,

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kill these three guys, kill these
four guys, shoot the guy with

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the gun. Okay, run up
and get get him, do this,

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and you know, like it becomes
an exercise and memorization to some exciting Largely

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that's just like Okay, I know
there's gonna be three of these little scamps

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that are gonna run up and get
me. And here's where the guy with

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the gatling gun starts shooting, and
you know, I need to fall off

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here, run around here. You
know. It's but some of the boss

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fights, just in terms of the
way video game boss fights are structured,

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are very well. So it's like, you know, oh, you know,

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one third of the way down on
his health bar, it's gonna start

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doing this laser thing. And then
once I get the two thirds, there's

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this I know I should do.
You're telling me the boss has three forms.

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That's somehow like a fucking amazing revelation
from video games. Still, I'm

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just saying they're really good boss fights. Trial I don't want to say trial

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and error, but like trying to
figure out, like, well, okay,

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if I extend this weapon here,
it seems like I can hit his

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head better, and I want it
seems safer if I go around to the

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left side. Like the more you
die and go back to these bosses,

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the better it feels like. Each
time you feel like you're making progress.

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And I wound up doing this boss
fight last night, really like late game.

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It was fucking hard. Killed me
probably like almost ten times. I

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rang the bell that allows people in. Yeah, and Eric Tay from a

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game spot was watching my stream and
he jumped into my game and so we

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did this two player fight against the
boss, which I hear makes the boss

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is way tougher. Uh, I
have not heard that this was the stream.

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We're saying it doubles their health bar. That might be true. That

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might be a first for the series, though I don't think that's ever been

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the case before. I might be
wrong, and I double their health bar,

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like if you're you've got two people
running up, Yeah, yeah,

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that's that's not I mean having attention. I can't speak for the boss you're

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talking about, because I don't think
I've seen it, but but generally,

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like having a second person there absolutely
trivializes the boss design because they're all designed

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for single target attacks, you know. Yeah, Like they're designed that they're

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designed so that they're hard to hit
when they are coming at you. If

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somebody's standing there behind them, they'll
just like wail on them for days,

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you know. But just big dramatic
moments like Eric was mostly like distracting the

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boss and I was able to get
in there and get a bunch of hits

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before it eventually turned around and got
me. And then Eric dies like right

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at the end, and I was
ready to be so so pissed off.

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I died again at this and then
I wound up killing him barely, and

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it just it is that sense of
victory, like you actually said something.

407
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:52.839
This thing has been kicking my ass
over and over and I thought I was

408
00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.079
gonna die, but then he just
you know, you know, the bosses.

409
00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.960
The bosses, in addition to being
super hard to beat in a lot

410
00:23:59.960 --> 00:24:03.680
of cases, are just a lot
about spectacle, you know. Yeah,

411
00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.920
like the size of the bosses,
the scale, the kind of the grandiosity.

412
00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:10.799
Yeah, like the the areas you
fight them in the way it looks

413
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.559
like the things. I haven't really
gotten to any of those. Yeah.

414
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:17.440
No, I thought the blood starved
beast for the first time last night and

415
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:21.720
then stopped immediately. I got him
like over two thirds of the way down

416
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:23.519
and then and then fucked up.
He kicked my ass a lot. You

417
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:27.440
just dodge and hit him, Yeah, I've just dodge and hit him.

418
00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.880
I beat that thing on my first
try. What do you like? He

419
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.599
wasn't poisoning the shit. So I
did read a note. So this is

420
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.559
where notes are great. I had
him before that. I had the church

421
00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.799
garb when I got there and there
was a note right in front of the

422
00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:44.279
door about poison and I was like
I should put on that. Poisons that

423
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:48.400
are hard coded into the game players, Like, Okay, the game starts

424
00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:53.480
spitting out antidotes at such a rate
that you know that that you're going to

425
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:57.039
face poisonous enemies. But like the
weird the guys they I don't know,

426
00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:00.839
they have like hoods over there,
like the in the gap lun area there's

427
00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.799
the shambling dudes, fast dudes,
and then the bigger, slower dudes.

428
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.680
Yeah, like those guys can poison
you. Like it seems pretty clear that,

429
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:08.200
like you're in a poison area,
but you can run out pretty quick.

430
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.240
And I mean if I don't want
to farm for antidote the wh time.

431
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.319
So like I was when I was
fighting him, I got poisoned once.

432
00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:15.799
Yeah, I didn't get I didn't
get poised, And that is the

433
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.599
first time I've been poisoned in the
entire game. Like the meter has appeared,

434
00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.039
but it's not it doesn't actually trigger. I think I was under leveled

435
00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:25.839
and I didn't have ship for poison
resistance, so like he would hit me

436
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:29.640
once and I just desperately be trying
to use antidotes and health and everything just

437
00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:33.640
to keep myself alive. And then
it wasn't until this is before notes were

438
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.400
active, I realized, oh shit, these church clothes have really high poison

439
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.160
resistance, which I didn't find until
much later. Goes so, yeah,

440
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.119
like there's there's cool stuff about it. Uh Like there are elements of it

441
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.599
that I that I think are pretty
neat. And yeah, it does like

442
00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.680
give you that feeling of just like, oh man, I accomplished something.

443
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:56.279
And it's like a very different like
it's a different type of progression than most

444
00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.880
other games, you know, in
terms of just like what gets better.

445
00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:04.440
It's like you get better. Yeah, it's less about XP and like that

446
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.440
that's a factor. But like you
know, you put points into strength,

447
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.920
you put points into into you know, hit points or whatever. It's just

448
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.440
more of a cushion. Yeah,
you know, and you could probably over

449
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:17.880
level for stuff. I'm sure that's
what I've been doing. You could just

450
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:19.000
grind it out and if you really
wanted to, I guess yeah. That

451
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.400
was the other thing I kept waiting
to happen, is like, is it

452
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.279
always gonna give me like blood echoes
for everything I killed, Like I thought

453
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.759
those thing guys in the first area, it would eventually just go like all

454
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.279
right, you're not getting shipped from
these guys before because you'll always get them

455
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:37.559
twenty four. But but the the
leveling requirements scale such that they those become

456
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:38.640
worthless. Yeah, So like yeah, if I went back to the first

457
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.599
area, now I'd get like fifty
nine echoes for killing a thing, or

458
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.200
I could go to where I'm supposed
to be at and get like twelve oh

459
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:47.400
yeah yeah, talk I mean,
like what level are you at now,

460
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.079
like like twenty five, twenty six
or wherever I am, like, you

461
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:57.720
know, a full run around that
entire starting area murdering everything, which is

462
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:02.079
not hard. You can you know, I can, I can level or

463
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.599
just about level off of that.
So I'm riding up situations like I just

464
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:08.319
I just got ten thousand for the
first time and then bought the key or

465
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:12.480
whatever to open that gate. So
so you're getting in, You're getting into

466
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:15.839
the area where it's going to be
more than just the villagers with sickles and

467
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:19.519
stuff. Right, You're gonna start
the huge ass thing which you like you

468
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.079
look at and go like okay,
Like that guy is tough, and also

469
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:27.000
the weapon I'm using doesn't have the
range to really poke at like like I

470
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.759
need to get into too tight.
I think you're talking about the super like

471
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:36.200
the twenty foot tall guys in White
Roads with the giant like so very shortly

472
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.279
he's like just like you get out
of the cathedral and there's there's two pimps,

473
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.480
and then you walk over the right
and then there's the big tall guy.

474
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.119
Yeah, go up the stairs.
He's right there asleep and stands up.

475
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:45.680
So I just murder those pimps,
right, But so at a point,

476
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.559
like you'll end up fighting one of
those guys while there's like two of

477
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.119
the pimp dudes and the guy shooting
at you. Yeah, at the same

478
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.000
time ringing up past him and open
that gate. And then there's a bunch

479
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:57.240
more of them up there. Yeah, there's like there's more of them up

480
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.519
there. And also one of the
pimps has a flame thrower. Yeah,

481
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.079
just pretty fucked up thing to have. Yeah, you can get that thing,

482
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:03.920
not from him. I got one. I got it. Yeah,

483
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:07.599
it seems like it sucks if you
go up the stairs. There's attempts with

484
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.119
crucifixes and they shoot magic at you. All right, don't show DMX a

485
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.400
flame thrower. Okay. I picked
up some armor off a dead body near

486
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.720
where those pimps are, and then
a big fucking magic thing appeared and suddenly

487
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:21.119
I was in the air. Yeah, I guess, Yeah, did you

488
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.160
die afterwards? No? I landed
and it took most of my health and

489
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.440
then huh and then healed up.
It said Frenzy on the screen, But

490
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:33.160
I don't know what is that frenzy
Welcome to Souls. Who knows that is

491
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:34.759
the series? And if it happens, and you're like, every every time

492
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.119
you walk over to that part of
that one area, the fucking thing appears

493
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:40.680
and you're like, oh, is
this the big room? But there's a

494
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.000
little saucer in the middle, and
there's the first room right out of the

495
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:48.160
cathedral. You go take that left
exit out of the cathedral before you go

496
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:49.880
down, and there's the big guy
in the crows. I don't remember.

497
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.160
I don't remember one of those big
things ever being there for me. I

498
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:55.359
know what you're talking about with the
saucer. Yeah, that's actually how you

499
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.119
get to one area national area.
Yes, I don't know, yeah,

500
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:00.799
yeah, like nothing, nothing will
make sense for quite a while, like

501
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.480
things just happen. Then you're like, okay, I've got some kind of

502
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:11.240
red messenger bookmark thing. I don't
Yeah, I don't know what that is.

503
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.960
It says weird thing giant pig dropped
it. Okay when I murdered,

504
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.200
Oh I know what that is.
Yeah, that's the end of the twist

505
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:21.039
line. Okay. I kind of
like it when like certain enemies will kill

506
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:22.200
you, Like you see a new
enemy for the first time and you're like,

507
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.240
oh, okay, that thing killed
me. I guess I'm gonna restarted

508
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:27.000
the lamp and then all of a
sudden you wake up and you're like in

509
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.880
prison, right, Wait, what
the fuck's going on here? That was

510
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.559
a big record scratch moment for sure
happened. Yeah, yeah, I don't

511
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.319
know, Like there there are parts
about it that I think are pretty cool,

512
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.559
but it's it's specifically because like if
this game was all slow weapons,

513
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.559
so like I got the Kerkammer,
I think it fucking sucks. Yeah.

514
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.400
I never really enjoyed using it.
It's like the as it looks amazing,

515
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.440
like, yeah, it's a rat
design, it's a big fucking weird hammer.

516
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.079
Yeah that's funny that turns into a
sword. Yeah, but you have

517
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.559
to be you have to be into
slow, heavy plotting weapons to enjoy that

518
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.119
thing. Yeah. And in a
game where like it seems like the crux

519
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.400
of it is you interrupting things that
are attacking you. Yeah, like the

520
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.880
thought of like a big slow hammer, like you'll it seems like you'll occasionally

521
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.319
need range. I'm like that bigger
guy, you know, it doesn't have

522
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.480
to be that might be useful.
And I'm not saying they're like invalid tactics.

523
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:19.119
I mean, obviously they made it
so any weapon could work. Yeah,

524
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.000
it sounds like that's the way you're
playing it, Jeff, Yeah,

525
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:23.839
yeah, but that. But but
I'm saying, like in a game where

526
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:26.920
the crux of it, like the
whole point of you having a gun is

527
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.759
to interrupt things that are attacking you, like why not carry that in both

528
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:36.720
hands and just fucking walk through a
lot of Yeah. But but I've I

529
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:38.599
and I hope that like the game, like the game eventually needs to get

530
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.640
to a point where it punishes that
and forces you to change it up.

531
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.640
I can't actually speak to that because
I stopped using it, like the weapon

532
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.559
I'm using now I like so much, and I've upgraded enough that I kind

533
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.319
of don't use the gun anymore,
which I want to be curious to see.

534
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.240
Yeah, like I barely need use
the gun now. Ludwig's Holy Blade.

535
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.759
People were saying really good things about
that, things amazing, and I

536
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.559
really like it because I was like
before, I've always been a one hand

537
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.400
weapon and shield guy in the old
Dark Souls games, and people would just

538
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.200
constantly swear by great swords and I'm
like, that is both my hands and

539
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.279
it takes forever to swing. Fuck
that. I don't want to deal with

540
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.119
that. But this thing turns into
a great sword. Like it's the little

541
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.759
like rapier thing that snaps into a
bigger blade, you know, and then

542
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.799
it's the two hands great sword,
and like I love using that thing now,

543
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.799
Like I've I've finally gotten my head
around the rhythm of using that thing.

544
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.359
You know, you're still dodging,
you're still like making space for yourself.

545
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.920
Yeah, but when you swing,
you do so much damage. You

546
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:32.279
know, you just knock the shit
out of everything. I felt like,

547
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:33.559
you know, like so I tried, you know, I wanted to experiment

548
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.400
with the other attacks, and like, okay, well what's up with the

549
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.640
slower attacks on the saw leaver and
stuff like that, just to get a

550
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.799
feel for like how that stuff might
work if I went with a slower weapon,

551
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.599
and I d have in situations where
I go, like, you know,

552
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.480
R one, R two and in
between that, like torch guy will

553
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.200
go fuck you, set you on
fire, and you're like, okay,

554
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:53.960
well, I'm just gonna never let
up, and you make sure you're dead,

555
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.640
right, So like with most enemies, I'm just running up and hitting

556
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.559
R one five times. Yeah,
I'm rolling away. I did a lot

557
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.640
of that too. The heavy attacks, you definitely know when to use them.

558
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:06.400
But then I also think that the
sauce leaver is maybe not the best

559
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.119
example. Yeah, I'm like,
I'm hoping that there's like another fast weapon

560
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.880
in the game. Like I would
recommend you just go buy every weapon you

561
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:14.960
can. Yeah, yeah, and
try them all out. That's what I

562
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:16.839
found. The what is it,
the sauce bear or whatever. Yeah,

563
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:22.559
and well have you been to the
little Fountain shop in the dream? Yeah,

564
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.039
they're like three more like the thread
of can like the Oh I guess

565
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.359
you haven't unlocked every okay, yeah, actually, where you're at, you

566
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.440
wouldn't have. They're like three or
four more things there, I think.

567
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:30.839
I mean, they're also cheap.
I hope, I hope they made them

568
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.640
that cheap for a reason, you
know, which is just to encourage experimentation.

569
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:36.799
Yeah, Jeff, there's a really
fast one. I've used a lot

570
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:37.960
because the way you describe it,
it's like mostly how I do it.

571
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.640
I came on our one a lot. I don't really extend it much at

572
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.079
all now, I like fast attacks. There's one. It's called the Tataka

573
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.200
or the Tunnel Lists or something.
It's this, uh, imagine almost like

574
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:52.880
a sword type thing. Why why
can't I help wondering if that's actually what

575
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.400
it's called. It's called like the
tunnel Lists or something. I don't know

576
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.440
what I'm probably not called the Tatanka. Yeah, well, it's kind of

577
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.440
imagine like sword type thing, about
the size of like a short sword or

578
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.920
whatever. But it's got this like
metal orbit on the end. Okay,

579
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.279
I almost picture like a little thin
crystal sword and a mace at the same

580
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.559
time or something. No, it
doesn't swing around. It's all like the

581
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.000
orb is attached to it, but
l one instead of changing it to a

582
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.559
different like slower version just goes like
you kind of whip it and it turns

583
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:20.160
electric. I haven't seen that,
but I know what you're talking. Yeah,

584
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.039
you just kind of like buffet with
lightning and it'll be like lightning for

585
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.119
fifteen, twenty or whatever seconds.
Then the same thing that fights you with,

586
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.839
Oh, to the right of the
Grand Cathedral igs it might be I'm

587
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:35.319
not sure, an electric mace.
Yeah, okay, it's it's a lot

588
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.079
like that. So yeah, all
l one does is make it like have

589
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.200
lightning power from it. Like it's
just got those quick attacks and you can

590
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.279
do a charge attack. But like
it's pretty great. Like before you run

591
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:45.880
in the battle, just get a
little buff running there and kick everyone's the

592
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.599
other. Like I feel like I
just keep waiting for enemies that require me

593
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.680
to do something other than mash our
one and like the other I mean tactically

594
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.599
mash our one. I'm not just
like fucking running around like a lunatic.

595
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.640
It's like, Okay, I know
these guys take three swipes a hit,

596
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.640
so or that's fine, that's within
my stamin a range. If it's going

597
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.839
to be more than six or there's
more guys, I can do five attacks

598
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.400
and then dodge, so five roll
away, recharge, five more roll away,

599
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.000
then recharge. I guess again.
I think that the sock Leaver is

600
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.239
just a not a very versatile weapon
compared to some of the stuff later,

601
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:21.960
like on the Holy Blade that I'm
using. R one is still a slash

602
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.119
with the sword, but R two
is a thrust. It's like literally a

603
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.719
poke instead of a swing. Right, So A you're getting the if you

604
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.480
combo R one to R two with
the sock leaver. I think it does

605
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.320
that. It's not it's not what
you're thinking about. It's like it's literally

606
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:40.400
a like a fencing thrust. And
since they differentiate between regular blunt and thrusting

607
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.880
damage, and I've got a gem
on that thing that dramatically buffts the thrusting

608
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:46.719
damage. Yeah, I get a
lot more damage out of a thrust than

609
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.639
I do a swing, but it
takes longer to get out, you know,

610
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:51.599
right right, But it's got a
range on it, like it's a

611
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:52.559
it's a trade off thing, you
know, it's a it's a well this

612
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:54.960
is slower. Yeah, I mean, I got to look for a window

613
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.480
to use it. But a big
guy out of the out of the cathedral

614
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.440
has been the first guy that I'd
been like, ah, some range might

615
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:05.079
be nice here, so like I
guess I just but but like the run

616
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.360
of the mill enemies, like the
standard stuff I'm facing, you're just running

617
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.039
up and killing it. Sure,
So like that's the huge disconnect, is

618
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:14.719
like I'm just running around murdering stuff. And then the reaction online has been

619
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.039
like, man, You're really good
at this. It's like no, not,

620
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:22.639
I mean I hope not so,
because fuck man, it seems like

621
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.760
this game has a lot in common
with Monster Hunter based on what you guys

622
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.079
have said. I have not played
a lot of Souls games, but I

623
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.840
have played some Monster Hunter. A
lot of the fun from Monster Hunter for

624
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.760
me comes from the accomplishment of defeating
those big bosses and stuff. Uh,

625
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.559
Jeff, you saying that it's been
fairly easy for you so far, Are

626
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:47.760
you getting any of that accomplishment feeling
of accomplishment? Uh? Are you just

627
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.400
d Yeah? I mean, I
like you're waiting for it to challenge you,

628
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:53.800
Like, I mean the bosses are
more difficult, you know, like

629
00:35:53.800 --> 00:36:00.679
like surely, like like fighting the
second boss, you know, it's probably

630
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.599
took me seven or eight tries or
something like that. And I figured out

631
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.360
that there actually is a very specific
trick to that guy, and then it

632
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.280
was like, oh, okay,
this is how you're supposed to do this,

633
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.119
and then that's it. He's done. There's an item you can use

634
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:15.960
to stun him. The music box. See I didn't hear about that until

635
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:19.159
I didn't. I didn't have that
either, had to just kill it.

636
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.719
Was just like, you just blaze
through those first two forms because they're fucking

637
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.559
nothing, and then he turns into
a big crazy thing and you're like,

638
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.840
okay, how about you just stand
still for a secon Well I murder you.

639
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.239
Yeah, that thing's fucking hard without
the box though, Yeah, yeah,

640
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.719
yeah, it's hard. But I
got him most of the way down

641
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.280
without using it, and then kind
of thought, well, you know this

642
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.679
is probably the guy from that quest, right and tried it and yes,

643
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.159
trying to think what is the hard
like the first like truly hard boss.

644
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.320
See well, I thought the blood. Yeah, a lot of people don't

645
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.639
a lot of people really don't like
that thing, I guess, like Amelia

646
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.760
is probably the first. Like huge
boss, You're like, oh shit,

647
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:59.559
and it's tough, the big never
ending story, Doug, it's four Yeah,

648
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:01.320
it's church Falcore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

649
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:06.039
Like the it's it was nice to
beat. It was like after spending a

650
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.719
lot of time running around the exact
same area, kind of poking because I

651
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.320
wanted to see, like, oh, was there stuff I'm missing here?

652
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.559
It's like, oh, there's weird
dogs and cages down here that I could

653
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.360
just murder. That's weird. Uh, And and kind of feeling like I

654
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:21.199
got everything out of that area.
It was nice, like a finding like

655
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:22.239
oh, okay, there's a boss, there's an elevator down here, there's

656
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.320
a boss fight over here, okay, Like and being that was like okay,

657
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:30.000
now you can open this gate here
and there's like way more new stuff

658
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.119
here, like okay, fucking finally, thank God, Like, let's get

659
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:36.440
out into and see more stuff.
Having having played through Dan, it sounds

660
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:37.360
like you're actually passing me. You
know. I didn't get a chance to

661
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.360
play most this weekend, but having
played through most of the game, I

662
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:44.760
would say everything you've seen up to
now is the weakest in the game in

663
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:49.000
terms of enemy variety, weapon variety, scenery variety, like all of that

664
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.840
stuff. That was nice when you
get to like old Yarnum and like that

665
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.360
first shot of like the gatling gun, Like you hear the guy talking and

666
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.920
you're like, oh, it was
some weirdo fucking yelling at me, all

667
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.840
right, and then he starts shooting
and you're like, oh, that's fucked

668
00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:01.000
up. And then you see like
that, I think that's a really nice

669
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:04.920
shot, like that Scotty and around
that air like like that stuff looks really

670
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.679
so So that's what I mean,
you're getting. You're just about to get

671
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:09.880
into a bunch of stuff that's way
better than everything you've seen. Like the

672
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:14.039
level designs is great up to that
point, but I feel like everything is

673
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.119
the same, just kind of gothic
stone work. It's a city. Yeah.

674
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.400
Well, so so you're gonna start
getting into some new stuff. You're

675
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.480
gonna start seeing lot more enemies,
and like I said, you should really

676
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.480
try other weapons, because I was
fine with the Cleaver two for like twenty

677
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:27.800
hours until I try some other stuff. Yeah, Like I you know,

678
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.119
I I tried switching to the Kerk
camera and because you know, people were

679
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:35.000
like it's so badass, Like I
think it's you know that everybody's got their

680
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.360
favorites in these games. Didn't like
it. Generally, There isn't a wrong

681
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:42.920
way. Yeah, it's like it's
it's got a higher attack number, but

682
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.280
I feel like it's taking me more
hits to do stuff, Like it seems

683
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.519
like high attack only comes from that
second form. I don't really know,

684
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.159
but but you can get too fast. Like I just got this thing where

685
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.360
it's like one tiny blade, really
quick blade that turns into two quick blades.

686
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:57.159
Yeah. I was like, oh, that sounds ideal, like two

687
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.119
swords that are going super duper fast. But even after our level that,

688
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.000
the ton it just wasn't doing that
much damage. Right, So like the

689
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:06.079
sock Cleaver for me has been kind
of that perfect balance of fast and powerful.

690
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.079
Yeah, I got to the point
where I can't level it up anymore

691
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.280
or less. I get like twin
blood gems or something now right right,

692
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.440
and then there's another one past that, and it's really hard to find.

693
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.599
Yeah, figures, But yeah,
I don't I don't know, Like,

694
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.880
yeah, there's there's stuff about that
game that I think is pretty neat.

695
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.239
But but to answer your question,
Drew, I don't really know. Like

696
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.199
the you know, like it beat
the boss and it and it gave me

697
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.159
that feeling of like, oh fuck
it, Finally I'm not gonna have to

698
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.599
do that again, which is like
the worst feeling in games. Exactly.

699
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.880
It's not like, Oh, I
accomplished this thing. It's more like,

700
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:38.599
oh, fucking finally, fuck this, I would say, which like when

701
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:40.840
I'm reviewing a game, like that's
the thing, Like, if that's the

702
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:46.000
prevailing emotional feeling I get from a
game, it's usually not a very good

703
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.519
game. Yes, there's a lot
of that in these games, Like there's

704
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.079
no way around. It's a lot
of that in Metal Gear. Yeah,

705
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:57.039
yep, makes you think, doesn't
it. You know, it just depends

706
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.320
on what you're looking for. Yeah, I guess it's you know, obviously

707
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.239
a lot of people in I'd say
it's fifty percent relief fifty percent accomplishment.

708
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.599
Like you, you know, you
need a little bit of a maschistic street

709
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.960
to fully appreciate this stuff. Yeah, Like don't enjoy like suffering for your

710
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.000
entertainment, then you're probably not gonna
have any time. Like there was one

711
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.119
like last Night Planet and getting into
like running around Old Yarn and like there

712
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.079
was that thing of like okay,
I'm here where he starts shooting, and

713
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:23.800
there was like if you just barely
fall off this edge, you can catch

714
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:27.239
another lip and run around inside some
more and stuff like that. And I

715
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.079
was trying to do that. Died
in there, so I tried. I

716
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.719
was trying to get back there,
but I walked off too far and fell

717
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.000
all the way down. It's where
you're getting shot the shit out of you.

718
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:39.039
And I managed to survive that somehow. And then just like there was

719
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.880
a guy who like, for a
second I thought it was a human,

720
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.880
oh, because it was like he's
got a gun and a blade like me.

721
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.800
He looks like he's wearing similar type
because I think of like, okay,

722
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:52.960
there's a fucking like it's this the
invasion thing I've heard so much about.

723
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.639
So I fucking like he was kind
of sticking and moving like the AI

724
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:01.320
seemed all right for like a dumb
human. But anyway, it's like I

725
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:04.159
said, fuck, I gotta get
away from this guy. So I took

726
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.760
off running and then realized I had
no idea where I was, and there

727
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:08.519
was like a good grand adventure of
just like I'm pretty sure this is not

728
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.079
supposed to play this game, but
I'm gonna just fucking kill everything and run

729
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:13.960
and fuck, I don't know.
Yeah, sometimes you just have to go

730
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.559
with it and and yeah, so
and then going with it, I eventually

731
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:21.239
found like my way around to that
the door that opens like a couple of

732
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.440
different shortcuts at that point up and
confront the gallon guy. Guy. No,

733
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:28.840
okay, I would say that guy. It's weird. That guy is

734
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.360
the first like truly obscenely hard thing
in the game. Oh, the first

735
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.760
time you walk up to him,
and it's I thought that you thought that

736
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.360
I would be. I thought that
I would eventually like like I was running

737
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.119
up this staircase, thinking like this
has to be like something to get up

738
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.519
high to where I can fight this
guy. But then it turned out just

739
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.519
to be like a shortcut. Is
it where the wolf burst out the door

740
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.280
and there's that big spiral staircase going
up? No, the wolf burst out

741
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.480
the door on the way of the
blood starf beast. You have seen that?

742
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:55.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
don't know if you're not, if

743
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.280
you're not totally sick of it yet, I would encourage you to play a

744
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.000
little bit more because I feel like
you're you're getting to the point where it's

745
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.360
kind of make a break, like
you will decide for sure if you want

746
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.719
to keep going with it or not. Yeah, I don't feel I mean

747
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:09.480
whatever. You know, everybody's free
to play things exactly as much as they

748
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.079
want. But I feel like you're
not quite to the point yet where you

749
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.159
know for sure, because it does
change quite a bit. Yeah, I

750
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:21.840
mean, you know it's it's there's
there's something about that game. Yeah,

751
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:23.719
I'll say that for sure. And
it's weird because I actually don't I don't

752
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:27.480
really like the way it looks.
I think it's stuttery in a weird way.

753
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.199
Yeah, that area I was talking
about, like it kept like it

754
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.199
would stop and go, like the
audio would be would yeah. Yeah,

755
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:37.119
and it's just like it's repeating,
it's repeating the same little slice of audio

756
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:38.480
for a bunch of frames. Yeah, it does that in a couple other

757
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:42.920
areas, like the firm software games
have always been technically kind of a mess.

758
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.320
Yeah, like every every game that
they put out, every platform they've

759
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.960
been on, no matter what,
there's always two or three things, uh

760
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.559
yeah, between like those weird technical
things and just like the overall just design.

761
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:53.679
I think that's kind of but again, like I said, you know

762
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:59.159
that the variety amps up even if
the technical prowess is the same. They

763
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.960
ended you play anything else while you
were laid up, uh flat on your

764
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:07.239
back. Hot new release Metal Gear
Solid three played a bit of that.

765
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.280
I've heard of that. Yeah,
yeah, you should check it out some

766
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:13.960
time. Have you played through it. I've never played any Metal Gear games.

767
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.880
Okay, you should probably stay away, keep it away, especially especially

768
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.719
from three. I could probably pick
up three right and just right away.

769
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.079
Yeah, it's definitely the one to
start with, for sure. It's a

770
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.039
pick up and play game. It's
very friendly to new players. It's very

771
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.639
enjoyable experience. I actually have heard
the the DS version. That's what Peter

772
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:32.239
was saying. Wait, what did
he say about it? He said that

773
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:35.639
he thinks that it was the best
one. I thought it was terrible.

774
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.360
When I try to you can go
first person and move. I think that's

775
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.599
true. The biggest thing for me
was in three D. The frame rate

776
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.920
was very poor. Yeah, which
kind of makes it not worth playing.

777
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.480
I was very surprised to hear Peter
say that, But I have not played

778
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:51.199
through all of it. Yeah,
the HD collection looks great. That's what

779
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.480
I'm playing it on. Outside of
that, Ali Ali two is free.

780
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.039
I didn't like Ali Ali. I
figured it's free, I'll try out the

781
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:00.639
sequel, don't like, oh yeah, if you didn't like the first game,

782
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.280
you're it's gonna like this second game. It's I just don't. I

783
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.599
hate skate skate I fucking that series. I think it is terrible. Uh

784
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:12.880
and then also Ali, I think
right analog stick like flip, you know,

785
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.719
any kind of control with the right
analog stick. With skateboarding, I

786
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:17.880
hate. I love Tony Hawk,
the Tony Hawk series, not like like

787
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.079
Fight Night and all the other EA
games that were very right stick fighting.

788
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.760
It's one of my favorite. Well
because it's the exact same thing. I

789
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.320
mean, it's just what they're doing. It feels like it makes more sense

790
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.719
to me because it hit stick punch. Uh no, no, not like

791
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:36.159
Madden Stars. No, No,
it's like not the truck stick all right.

792
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:37.239
No, with Fight Night, it's
you know, the right stick is

793
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.800
you're you know, if you do
a hook motion with the stick, you're

794
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.239
throwing a hook punch. That makes
sense. What are you doing that with

795
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.199
the board? Yeah, that's the
thing. Is actually, like the motions

796
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:50.639
in skate are like if you think
about a skateboard, I don't think skateboards.

797
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:52.039
I try to think about skateboards all
the time. I never think about

798
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.239
skate because I can't ride one,
so I might as well just think about

799
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:59.519
them. And and like some of
those motions makes sense in that context that

800
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.519
they got to you cute with it. They tried to like there are some

801
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:07.760
moves that are really fucking hard to
do with the right stick. They want

802
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.280
a level of precision that the right
analog stick on a three sixty controller just

803
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:14.440
wasn't meant to do. And then
in like Skate two, I think it

804
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:16.559
was, they had goals that were
like, do this trick and you're like,

805
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:21.920
I've fucking spent an hour trying to
do this motion and I'm pretty sure

806
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.480
I'm doing it, but it's not
going. Dudes that skateboard, you know,

807
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.920
love skate because it's like, oh
man, this seems more realistic.

808
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:30.840
You know this, this is great
where it's like I don't want realistic I

809
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.559
don't give a shit about actual skateboarding. You want digital buttons. Yes,

810
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.000
yes, And Tony hash pro skater
does that great. I like, I

811
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.599
can just pull a pizza box out
of your ass and eat. Maybe if

812
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:44.920
I break down this this thing about
Ali Ali to you, it will help

813
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.320
make it make more sense to you. All Right, The big difference from

814
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.400
Ali Ali to Ali Ali two is
they added manuals Oh, just like from

815
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.599
Tony Hawk to Tony Hawk shot do
you do it in the same way?

816
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.840
Just like an up down? And
I think I got up? Really I

817
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.679
need to play more of it.
But this isn't isn't forget my ignorance.

818
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.880
But isn't that kind of like a
basic cored sort of tenet of skating.

819
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.280
I mean that wasn't the first time. No, because most real skaters aren't

820
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:13.320
trying to score fucking six million point
trick lines. Well, so they don't

821
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.519
need a gameplay system to link them
from one thing to the next. Still

822
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:20.599
seems like something you're skating video game
would have. Is aless, you were

823
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:24.000
fucking thinking from the start. Sure
you're gonna to add for the sequel,

824
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.119
let's make it manual. So I
look forward to, like like an increased

825
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.960
focus on vertical skating and the revert
to be added in three. He's saying

826
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.480
that Spider Man is gonna show up
in Ali Ali like six, let's hope

827
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.000
or something. He was in two. Spider Man was in Spider Man,

828
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:42.119
Darth was Darth Maul, Mall was
in three. Lane was in one of

829
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.239
them when't Yeah, uh, Ulverine
might have also been in three. God

830
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.039
that really dates those games, It
really does. Saying like, oh,

831
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.440
Darth Maul is in Darth Small is
in this game. That makes me God

832
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.639
Man is eternal right and it was
one Never stopped was making Spider Man.

833
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:57.840
Yeah, when you say that,
that just makes me think, oh,

834
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.880
wow, that game is fifteen years
old. Wins onny Hawk one came out,

835
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.400
it had boxes for Apocalypse in it
because never Soft made that. Also,

836
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.440
Bruce Willis, Bruce Willis was not
in the game, Like, like,

837
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:09.920
really they should have done that,
but I'm sure at some point the

838
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:14.360
likeness or whatever they would have had
to do to make that work probably would

839
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.119
be way too crazy. Yeah.
So Al Ali two just more Ali Ali

840
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.639
effectively with some more stuff, like
they've made some changes to it. But

841
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:22.519
yes, what I mean is that
I never played the first one, and

842
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:24.679
I was always curious about it.
Does it Is there any reason to go

843
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.440
back or should I? I'd say
start with two and you're fine, Uh,

844
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:31.519
it's different levels, but you know, and okay, that's the same

845
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:35.360
basic challenge system. Like, yeah, I like Ali Ali two, but

846
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.760
I really like skate. Yes,
it's it's it's it's one of those series

847
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:45.320
that like reviewing Skate is different from
like, like there are problems with Skate,

848
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.119
but the Right Stick is actually like
a really fucking cool thing that they

849
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.880
did, and it's super different.
It's an alternative skateboarding game to Tony Hawk.

850
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.159
It's not meant to be in that
thing, like Grind Session is meant

851
00:47:55.199 --> 00:48:00.679
to be Tony Hawk. You know, Uh, Skate is almost like Thrasher

852
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.679
Skate and Destroy but manageable. There's
that Thrasher game was fucking impossible. I

853
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:08.360
feel like Skate is going more for
realism, which Tony Hawk, especially you

854
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.519
know, with later entries, was
not at all going to Thrasher Hall of

855
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.360
Meat. Man, you fucking just
ragged all your way off of fucking cranes

856
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:19.320
and ship in that game. I'm
always up for rag dalling, and Skate

857
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.000
actually did produce some really hilarious videos, but I just had I never had

858
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.320
fun playing it, and Ali Ali
feels the same to me. It's like,

859
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.199
I don't know why making this hook
motion is a kick flip. As

860
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.039
someone who's never been able to like
balance on a skateboard, right, I

861
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.440
just don't understand. And so I
don't think it's for me. Tony Hawks

862
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.239
more for me totally. The thing
I really like about skate is that,

863
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.000
well I think Tony ok did this
like here and there too, and then

864
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.239
it just got too weird with it
and it got you know, like it

865
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.159
got two into jack Jackass became too
popular. You know, That's what ultimately

866
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:52.199
happened to Tony Hawk. Yeah,
but like the skate games are, they

867
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.480
feel like a skate video, like
the intros, all their weird live action

868
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:02.800
videos intros where they've got real skateboarders
in roles as doctors and other ship Like

869
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.639
Skate three. That was really good
with that super elaborate one. Yeah,

870
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.320
and that was great. I thought
that did an awesome Yeah, like that

871
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:15.360
stuff is of the shining and stuff. Yeah, they're just like tonal things

872
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:20.840
about skate that I think are like
the match up with as someone who does

873
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.400
not skate but had friends that do
and ended up reading a lot of skateboarding

874
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:29.920
magazines for a while. Uh,
like it's it's cool in that same way

875
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.320
that and and I found that pretty
appealing. But they should make another one

876
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.480
of those. It's a game that
had problems, but they honed it every

877
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:37.599
time, like they got a little
closer, a little closure, a little

878
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:43.159
closer, and I would like to
see another one of those, but it's

879
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.800
probably too late for that. Could
just get beauty probably to keep making Skate

880
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:51.159
three videos maybe eventually. Yeah,
we saw that right three like re entered

881
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.480
the charts. This was months ago. Yeah, I remember he did.

882
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:57.559
He did some Skate three videos and
like it actually showed back up. And

883
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.719
I mean not like they put the
DLC on sale or something. Really point,

884
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:01.400
I think, like it's not like
it was back in the top ten

885
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:04.519
or something, but it was charting, you know, like it was people

886
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.760
were going out and buying it enough
that point being like, maybe we can

887
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:12.760
crowdsource enough skate popularity the DA will
actually be like, well, like the

888
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.239
thing you run into there is like
how much of that team is available to

889
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.760
pull back together to put on a
skate game. Because I think that that

890
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:22.119
game had a vibe to it that
you know, you assume came from the

891
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.639
people that were making it. Was
a was this say harmonics is full of

892
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.599
musicians type situation of like these people
clearly like appreciate the activity of skateboarding.

893
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.679
Yeah, but and I don't know
that necessarily they all skated or anything like

894
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.559
that. But you know, like
that's that's not necessarily the point. It's

895
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:42.599
that like whatever, like the team
making that, the people making decisions for

896
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.840
that game were very smart about it. The tone never seemed forced with what

897
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:50.159
I played this. Yeah, yeah, I felt genuine Yeah, and and

898
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:54.360
that's that was pretty cool. But
yeah, you wonder like how many of

899
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:58.480
them are still around. That was
black Box and they did like need for

900
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:00.760
speed for a bit and then oh
that's right, they got they did the

901
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:06.119
run and that was not good.
Did they get not totally dismantled, but

902
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:08.719
didn't something like they had layoffs or
something. Some portion of them worked on

903
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:13.000
that Garden Warfare game. Okay,
that was the thing. I was someone

904
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.639
so someone I think it was from
that team said, hey, by the

905
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:17.239
way, a bunch of us are
on Garden Warfare. Now, man,

906
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:20.800
that's a bummer. I think I
remember that. That's I like that game.

907
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:22.800
But it's not no skates. Well, it's fine whatever. I mean,

908
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:24.639
if you want a new skate game, I can see how that would

909
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:30.599
be a disappointing situation. But you're
not getting a new skate game. Hey,

910
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.400
it's the best plans versus Zombie game
Zombies, game that's ever existed?

911
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.199
That the game? How about that? I just liked that they put a

912
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.519
period after the title of the game. Did they really didn't they skate?

913
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:44.480
Oh? Sk yes, yes,
skate lowercase like lowercase s and then a

914
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:51.360
period series had style. Yeah,
uh, Drew, What did you do

915
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:54.199
this weekend? I played video?
He asked, knowing that you had played

916
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:59.559
a video games games. I did
go to Mexico though, Yeah, my

917
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:05.360
family inherited a time share. Mmmm. That sounds like a real bad situation.

918
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.480
It is no way a front for
anything illegal, but we we all

919
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.199
went down there check it out and
see if it was worth the keeping around.

920
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.400
And it's pretty cool. I'd never
been to Cabo. I didn't bring

921
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.079
to Mexico before, but yeah I
was. I've never been in Mexico.

922
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:22.480
I was in Cabo Ohabo. Oh
yeah this weekend. Did you see Sammy

923
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.400
mister Hagar, He's just walking around
checking hands. Yeah, got a barrel

924
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:29.000
of tequila's track strapped to his back. Yeah, just like a hose.

925
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:32.559
Come lean your head back and you
just start shooting into your mouth. Little

926
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:37.199
the bartender guns. Yeah. No, I did not. I did not

927
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.599
even go to Cabo Wabo itself.
I did go to that, Maria.

928
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:42.199
It's a nice little you know,
I don't know. It felt kind of

929
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:45.280
like Universal CityWalk to me. I'm
sure it's very touristy. It's very touristy.

930
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:49.920
Yes, and you drive by there
are beaches with giant inflatable cans of

931
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:58.159
takat and all right and bass emanating
flowing across the sand. Can you buy

932
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:00.480
these giants inflatable cans of takata?
I mean someone had too. I would

933
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.599
like to get one of those because
I'm gonna be there next month without giant

934
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:07.840
or are we talking like like would
fit in Dan's apartment much larger, like

935
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:09.320
a couple of stories. Oh wow, yeah, I really want You could

936
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:12.440
just live in one of those.
Yeah, you have to live inside the

937
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.159
can. Yeah. Yeah. I
did not go to one of those beaches,

938
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:16.679
but I saw them from Afar.
Just did inflate it in Golden Gate

939
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:21.679
Park and hope for the best.
Okay. I did go scuba diving,

940
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:23.719
which is kind of like a game
where your goal is to not die.

941
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:29.440
Did you win? Yes? Okay? Cool? Cool there for a second

942
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:34.519
yea. Our second dive was really
cold, just going a cave. Yeah,

943
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.360
yeah, it's a cove at that
point, isn't it there? Underwater

944
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:43.880
caves? It was not, It
was not. Cave diving diving is very

945
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:47.880
dangerous, so I've heard, uh, but this one was just sort of

946
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:52.800
swim in, swim out. I
have gone through like a short cave system,

947
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:57.960
uh years ago. That's fun.
Are you any degree of certified?

948
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.719
Yes? Do you have to be
advanced like water certified? Like you can't

949
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:05.760
just show up to a scuba diving
business without any prior experience and just say

950
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:07.800
like, hey, give me a
tank, right, Yeah, you can't.

951
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.559
They do what are called discovery dives, and they'll generally take you down

952
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:15.039
to like a lower or a not
as deep depth, so like thirty feet

953
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.119
or so. Because that is that
like the equivalent of your first skydiving experience

954
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.559
where you're chathered to somebody else.
Yeah, like your your instructor. Is

955
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.760
your instructors there and watching you and
making sure you like they they go through

956
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:30.559
a little pre briefing you how to
use everything. Is there an actual certification

957
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:34.239
check? Yeah? Okay, you
have a card, so you can just

958
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:36.599
go like, oh, I've forgot
my card, but trust me, bro,

959
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:37.719
I've dove a bunch of time.
Just give me this tank. I

960
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:40.599
gotta go in Mexico maybe because like
we went up there and a lot of

961
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:45.920
us hadn't been diving in years,
especially like including me, uh and we

962
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:47.760
were kind of hoping to get maybe
like a little refresher, Like here's how

963
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.639
this works, blah blah blah,
here's how to put on your regulator and

964
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:53.559
remove it. Here's how you're you
know, buoyancy controller works and everything.

965
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.400
They were just like, oh,
yeah, no problem, just here you

966
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:01.559
go jump in. But uh yeah, no, no no problems. See

967
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:07.159
anything cool. I saw a couple
of sharks, saw an octopus, saw

968
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:13.920
seahorses. I've never seen sea horses
before. Yeah, it was fun.

969
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:15.920
Sounds exciting. It is. It
is fun. Does the time share work?

970
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:20.920
Is it just like the name sounds. It's like, I don't know.

971
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.039
You pay a month or you play
a yearly fee and you get a

972
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:30.800
number of points and then you can
spend those points on hotel basically what our

973
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.079
hotel rooms in different parts of the
world, as long as they're within this

974
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.360
time share network. Uh okay,
so it's not one specific property. Okay,

975
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:39.199
that's what I thought it was.
I think most of them are just

976
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:43.920
like here's a house. Yeh three
other families own a part of it.

977
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:47.159
That's what I thought. I mean, yeah, well you can like if

978
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.480
you different time shares may work different
different ways, but like this one would

979
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.079
work like if we wanted to go
to the same place, we would spend

980
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:58.360
some more points. We may not
get the same room or whatever, and

981
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.599
then other time shares in the network
you get a spend points and points like

982
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:06.239
they go up if you have a
nicer room or if it's a more in

983
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:09.400
demand weekend or something. I don't
know, it's super weird, weird,

984
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:13.840
but the place was nice. Yeah, and I finally got some diving in

985
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:17.519
and nothing bad happened. Yeah,
you're back in one scar. Yes,

986
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:22.159
yeah, I had some some close
calls diving, but I can see how

987
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:27.519
that would happen. Yeah. So
no video games there or back? Yeah

988
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.719
all right, too busy playing the
Game of Life. Yeah, and reading

989
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:35.199
great a lot. Finished Dan's book. Hey it's pretty good. Thanks.

990
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:42.880
Uh chef, did you play anything
sides Blood Born? Yeah? Avoid Expanse.

991
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.760
Oh yeah yeah we played that for
a quick look. You're still playing

992
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:49.719
it? Yeah? Yeah, it
more over the weekend a space game,

993
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.920
yes it is, but it's like
a top down RPG. Huh, Like

994
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:58.159
the combat is all real time kind
of you know, you're swinging the arc

995
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.320
on your weapons and all that sort
of stuff. But it's all like w

996
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.960
ASD for thrusters and stuff like that. And we're talking like fast twitch based

997
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:10.079
or like lumbering space frigate. You
you eventually get bigger chips, but you

998
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:14.320
you level up things like this,
so you're you move the mouse to move

999
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:16.360
your targeting. Uh. You have
like a kind of a dash line coming

1000
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:20.360
out of the weapon on your ship, okay, and it can only cover

1001
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.559
a certain arc, like certain degrees
like upfront basically. Uh, And the

1002
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:28.079
it takes a little bit time of
time to track, so you move the

1003
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:30.920
mouse and then it has to rotate
at its fixed speed around to where you're

1004
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:37.119
trying to aim. So it's it
is lumbering in a sense. So it's

1005
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:38.840
not like you know, hey,
it's asteroids, but with you know,

1006
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.679
with role playing, and you get
to wait for your actual Yeah, you

1007
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.639
get away for the time to line
up and start shooting, so you know,

1008
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:46.880
and that's that's one of the things. As you level up, you

1009
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:51.320
can spend points to upgrade the speed
on your turret tracking and stuff like that,

1010
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:53.760
additional range and all that sort of
stuff. So yeah, you have

1011
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:57.760
a hole and slots to equip on
the ship and stuff. So it's like,

1012
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.199
Okay, I need a different shield, I need more fuel, I

1013
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.599
need a better power generator to power
all this advanced shit I'm putting on here,

1014
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:06.400
and uh, and you're kind of
leveling up along the way, and

1015
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:09.360
there's a lot of faction stuff and
it's a single player thing. Yeah,

1016
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.599
but you can, like when you
play single player, it's just creating a

1017
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:15.679
local server. You can actually just
it's it's an online game as well,

1018
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:21.239
but you create characters at the server
level. So I would advise, like,

1019
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.199
if you're gonna play the multiplayer,
make sure it's a server you know,

1020
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:27.559
won't just disappear, because it'll take
your character with it. That stinks.

1021
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:30.559
Yeah, that's very disappointing. You
know. They gotta like figure out

1022
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:32.480
a way to prevent people from cheating
or I guess it's also different server's gonna

1023
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:37.159
have different rules about some stuff.
So it's a sort of thing where you

1024
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:40.480
might you go level Appella on some
server and then taking it maybe in the

1025
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:46.320
like maybe in the Minecraft age.
That's what people expect like server specific progress

1026
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.079
as opposed to like a global thing. But yeah, it's a weird,

1027
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:52.440
like it's it's a weird type of
game to think about in the kind of

1028
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:55.679
the multiplayer and server environments and stuff
like that. But uh, it crashed

1029
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:59.360
a couple of times during the quick
look. They patched it over the weekend

1030
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:01.519
and said, I fixed a bunch
of crash bugs, so hopefully it's more

1031
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:04.960
stable now. I haven't had any
trouble with it on the tech end.

1032
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.440
Since it's neat, I'd say,
watch that quick look. It's like a

1033
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:13.119
fifteen dollars thing that you know it's
it's yeah, it's not elite dangerous,

1034
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.840
it's it's nothing. You know,
you're not going to use the joystick to

1035
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:20.480
play it. But is the movement
asteroids movement? Is it power your thruster

1036
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.000
your thrusters and you will move in
the direction you're pointing and you turn on

1037
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:27.159
and no, no, because you
have side thrusters in a front thruster like

1038
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:29.639
you can you know, you can
hit Q and eat. It's kind of

1039
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.800
move sideways and you know, have
this lateral movement while you're going, So

1040
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:37.440
it's sort of it's still reminded me
things like that. Yeah, like that

1041
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:40.719
old school just overhead. Yeah,
but we're not titled geometry wars. No

1042
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:44.519
no, no, no, no, no, not at all. But

1043
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:45.960
it's more technical, you know,
it's got like you put points, like

1044
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.000
there's speech checks and stuff like that. You can get a persuade about.

1045
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.480
It's it's a it's a spaceship RPG, like you're equipping loot unto your spaceship

1046
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.639
exactly. You see you talking to
people. Yeah, you're docking at space

1047
00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:59.079
stations like you can do trading routes
and stuff like that if you want and

1048
00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:01.519
make money that way. There are
alien races that need murdering, you know,

1049
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:05.559
there's stuff, there's pirates. Just
get back on that ten thousand player

1050
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:07.400
server. No no, I just
I've worked on I'm working on my single

1051
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:10.039
player of character. I don't want
to. I don't know what if that

1052
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:14.480
server goes away. Yeah, so
yeah, I don't know what the actual

1053
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:19.239
real like player account, like what
a realistic player account for a server is.

1054
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:22.039
But one of them out was out
there with a ten thousand player theoretical

1055
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.000
limit. I don't know. I
don't know it will ever hit that or

1056
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:30.320
what would happen if it did but
connected that and then it just becomes Eve

1057
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:35.400
online. Yeah, time scaling in
a weird one. No, I don't

1058
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.960
know. Yeah, but it's neat. There's something about it. Uh,

1059
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:43.039
it's you know, the production.
I like the space stuff, like the

1060
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:46.880
character portraits are a little a little
jakie. But yeah, it's like fifteen

1061
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:51.679
fifteen bucks. I thought it was
charming and fun off the bat, so

1062
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:57.480
I'm probably gonna mess with that a
little bit more cool. Yeah, and

1063
01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:00.360
that's it. I don't know.
I meant to play that that fast and

1064
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:05.119
the furious Yes, forts a thing. I want to see what that's all

1065
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.840
about, free thing? Yea.
Is it still a couple of days here?

1066
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:12.840
Yeah, not much longer, but
it's gonna be like ten bucks or

1067
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:16.440
something stand alone or yes, if
you want to go get it for it

1068
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:21.360
was pay Xbox one. It's on
a three sixty. Yeah. I think

1069
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:24.480
Waits and two came out on three
six. I did it really yeah,

1070
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:30.400
right, completely lost track of that
system. I turned on a three sixty

1071
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.920
not that long ago. It's crazy. Why it was just just going back

1072
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.440
to it. Yeah, but it
doesn't change, right yeah yeah, non,

1073
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:40.079
but like the blades right yeah's but
I wish I'd be like, that'd

1074
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:44.760
be way crazier. But like it
was weird because I was looking through the

1075
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:49.199
list of games that I had played
on it, and or like Xbox Live

1076
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.360
Arcade, uh, because there's still
stuff coming out for it, you just

1077
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:54.519
don't, you know, it's like, who's you know, you're not paying

1078
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:59.519
attention to it because there's new stuff
and a lot of it is like different

1079
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.159
versions of like Geometry Wars came out
there, RBI Baseball came out there.

1080
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.320
You know, it's like that sort
of stuff like Ore is coming out on

1081
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:10.639
the three s right at some point, and like going through that system and

1082
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:15.320
digging through the new releases list for
Xbox Live Arcade games and navigating all that

1083
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:19.719
shit and and seeing what I had
installed and stuff like, I got weird

1084
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.239
nostalgic feelings for a system that's not
that far out of date, which was

1085
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:27.079
a really weird. It was really
weird last time I turned I Think on

1086
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:30.599
and I kind of felt the same
way, but largely just because like it

1087
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:31.760
was, it was mostly in the
context of, like I wish the new

1088
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:36.360
machines were this good, just in
terms of being straightforward and doing what you

1089
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:37.840
wanted to do. Oh, I
don't know. Man, you turn on

1090
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:42.679
the three sixty now and it's just
like every single like section is now just

1091
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:46.159
like here's trailer for an Xbox.
Yeah, you know, the like the

1092
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:50.280
ad units were rotten. Yeah,
but in that case, it was more

1093
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:52.639
like I've spent enough time with this
thing that I know how to get around

1094
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:54.800
that exactly. And that's you know, that's how I feel about the consoles,

1095
01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:58.119
the new ones now, it's like
I've spent enough time doing this shit

1096
01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:01.800
that I can launch a game when
they're not broken and crashing or doing something.

1097
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:04.440
The new ones had gotten a lot
better, but you know, like

1098
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.440
just things like ease of putting a
party together and stuff like that. For

1099
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:09.280
me, it's the stuff like putting
in a disc and then it having to

1100
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:15.480
download three gigs and like patch sizes
being pretty out of control, and and

1101
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:22.480
the speed of the consoles, like
content delivery networks being total shit. Yes,

1102
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:27.840
Like I had three and Blood born
Saturday morning. I was like,

1103
01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:30.960
all right, maybe I'll play some
more of this and then realized that there

1104
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:34.039
was like a two and a half
gig patch or something, and it's like,

1105
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:36.719
okay, well maybe I'll play it
in an hour. Like it took

1106
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:38.480
like forty five minutes download, and
by then I'd already moved on and like

1107
01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:43.400
I had played a bunch of void
expanse watched the two thousand and one Royal

1108
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.800
Rumble. It's like all a bunch
of other dumb shit that had distracted me

1109
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:49.000
from doing it, and then it
wasn't It would be like eight more hours

1110
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.920
before I was like, oh right
that thing. PSN speeds have been fucking

1111
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:54.800
abysmal for me lately. They were
better at some point. I feel like

1112
01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:57.800
like they were, you know,
they were definitely better than PS three and

1113
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:00.280
stuff. And now I feel like
it's right back down the ship or man,

1114
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:01.360
I've gone in. I got.
I had some Xbox one when I

1115
01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:06.440
was doing Borderlands. Uh pres the
handsome collection for Xbox One. Like those

1116
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:09.960
things took fucking forever to download,
and they were like twenty gigs of pop.

1117
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:13.960
Neither one is anywhere near Steam like
Steam maxes out my hundred and twenty

1118
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:17.079
megas actually home like Steam is fucking
amazing. Yes, Steam. When Steam

1119
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:20.960
is downloading shit, I can't view
web pages, that's how fucking them rightly

1120
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:25.440
it is taking my ship. Might
want to throttle it, you know,

1121
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:29.119
give yourself five hundred k a second
to work with that. I think that

1122
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:32.559
what's happening with with with Microsoft and
Sony? Do you think they like throttle

1123
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:36.920
their bandwidth? Possibly? I think
I think I think they're throttling it to

1124
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:41.239
save themselves money, not to I
don't know. So, I mean,

1125
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:45.719
I've I've gone into my router because
I can filter traffic by I P yeah,

1126
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:47.679
and filter through to each individual console
to see how because I, you

1127
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:49.920
know, I like knowing how these
things work, how well they work.

1128
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:54.800
Yes, Uh, the Xbox One
is not fantastic, and the again like

1129
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.119
it's you know, it runs it
like a third of what I get out

1130
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:00.599
of Steam. But it still will
do four to five megasecond, which is

1131
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:02.800
sufficient. It's acceptable. It's not
great, Like if you're downloading a fifty

1132
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:06.559
gig game, that's a that's a
problem. And the PS four at its

1133
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:10.480
best I have seen get up around
four mega second too, but lately for

1134
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:13.239
me it's been like two hundred k
a second. Yeah for these Yeah,

1135
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.880
for these like eight ten gig downloads
or whatever. Like, do you think

1136
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:20.480
it's because those downloads are low priority
on their end? I don't know,

1137
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.760
has deemed those low prayers. I
don't know. I'm not I'm not a

1138
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:28.199
network engineer. I'm not really qualified
to speak to that. All I know

1139
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:31.199
is that, as you know,
the end user experiences is in those cases

1140
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:34.400
on the PS four that is like
completely unworkable. That is like, I

1141
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:38.360
can't play this tonight. I have
to let this download over night slow,

1142
01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:41.400
which is crazy. I mean,
it didn't get that slow for me,

1143
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:44.760
but it has been. You know, there's been situations where it's like,

1144
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.440
oh, I need to download this
game like oh well yeah, it's like,

1145
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:50.039
oh, I'm not playing that to
night, Like Dying Lights four version

1146
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:54.440
of that, it was a code
or as a digital copy or whatever.

1147
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:56.920
I entered it and I was like, oh, let's play some Dying Light

1148
01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:59.559
tonight. And then I entered it
and looked at him with I mean tomorrow

1149
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:03.840
night. And that's fucking crazy,
Like my connection is sufficient to get that

1150
01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:09.039
game fast, like I download the
PC version of it and well under an

1151
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:13.079
hour, like twenty minutes or something
like that. But uh yeah, it's

1152
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:16.320
it's the thing that you know,
it would you would think that they would

1153
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:19.400
put more of a priority on that, because if they do truly care about

1154
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:26.480
killing used games without just you know, killing used games on like some weird

1155
01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:31.360
DRM level. Like making the digital
game stuff work really really well and making

1156
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:36.119
it extra convenient is actually how they
solve that totally. And somebody's really been

1157
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:40.280
stepping it up on the sales side, like they've been running some really generous

1158
01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:43.039
sales on stuff lately. But then
again, like if I don't want to

1159
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:45.280
sit there and download for eight hours, but there's also the thing in the

1160
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:48.679
download que on the website which I
use that pretty frequently. Like if I'm

1161
01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:50.880
putting in a code or whatever,
I will do it here at work and

1162
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:54.639
just say downloaded my PS four right
and then yeah, mom, it's ready

1163
01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:58.199
to go. Yeah. Think about
the average user experience, though, most

1164
01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:01.320
people are not putting in a free
code in the morning and coming home to

1165
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:04.719
a download game. Most people sometimes
the game the store will update that that

1166
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:08.079
time of day. Sometimes they can
you can make the purchase there as well,

1167
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:09.800
a lot of people are different.
But yes, a lot of people

1168
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:13.079
are just browsing games on the store
on the console and buying them right there

1169
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:15.920
and then like looking at this and
going like, well, I'll play this

1170
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:19.000
tomorrow. Like for me, it
seemed like preloading on Steam was a convenience.

1171
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:23.679
It was a nice to have thing, and on the consoles it feels

1172
01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:27.159
like an absolute necessity for a big
game, absolutely where it's just like if

1173
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:30.239
you don't then you're not going to
play it that night. If you care

1174
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:34.840
about like that minute one experience of
playing a game at nine pm or whatever

1175
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:40.280
it is, and you're it's something
that's hotly anticipated, like you kind of

1176
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:44.519
have to preload it because otherwise you're
not gonna play anytime soon. If nothing

1177
01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:46.440
else, I just wish they would
give priority to patches, like things you

1178
01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:48.880
need to play the game, you
know, like here's a two gig patch

1179
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:55.320
that's going to take forty five minutes
download automatically. What's that do consoles download

1180
01:07:55.400 --> 01:08:00.559
patches automatically? You can opt out
on PS four. You can opt to

1181
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:02.159
start the game, but it disables
all network stuff if you're not running the

1182
01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:05.159
latest version. I mean, like
if your console is off or in like,

1183
01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:11.079
it's okay, they will, although
the PS four has been kind of

1184
01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:13.960
inconsistent about that. For me,
yeah, I feel like it. I

1185
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:16.640
feel like it might only update games
that you've played recently and anything that's like

1186
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:21.199
fallen off of your most recently patch. For game that I hadn't played in

1187
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:26.880
months yesterday. It does manually pull
the Geometry Wars patch. It didn't yank

1188
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:30.439
it for me. It's just sometimes
I'll turn the console on and it'll like

1189
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:33.239
immediately pop up like three patches added
downloads because it didn't do it well.

1190
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:34.840
It is off for some reason,
but a lot of time it does.

1191
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:39.399
But it pops that even if it's
finished the download. Are you sure,

1192
01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:42.760
yes, it says addeds download list. Then you go look and it's already

1193
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:45.560
done, and it'll have a time
stamp of four in the morning or something

1194
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:49.079
like that, so it still shows
you that stuff even if it's already downloaded

1195
01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:51.760
it. I can't remember with PS
four, can you set the window?

1196
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:55.720
I know with PS three you could
for like PlayStation Plus uploads if your saved,

1197
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:58.800
but don't think that's an option anymore. Okay, I think it's all

1198
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:00.800
just handled, yeah, because there
that window was there is so would power

1199
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:04.279
up run power down if you're leaving
into that low powered state. It's just

1200
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:06.680
kind of doing it when it's doing
it. The right way to handle cloud

1201
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:09.479
saves is all the time, or
it is like every time you turn a

1202
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:11.920
console off, like every and I
think it does that now. It wasn't

1203
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:14.199
for a while, but I've had
pretty good luck with like every time you

1204
01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:16.399
go into rest mode, it'll just
upload all your saves if it's your primary

1205
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:19.880
PS four or well you actually that
doesn't even matter. It's because each on

1206
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:24.039
each individual console, you can set
each game to auto upload or not,

1207
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:28.319
right, although it may give priority
to your primary console. They need on

1208
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:30.800
the PS four they need to show
you what your space situation is on the

1209
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:34.760
cloud save stuff. Somebody that's abysmal, somebody wrote an email, and then

1210
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:38.840
I'll just apologize to that person because
we're gonna talk about right now. Yeah,

1211
01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:42.159
but specifically about that exact thing.
The fact that they still limit you

1212
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:45.039
to a gig for cloud saves on
that system, which is really insane because

1213
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:48.840
like my Dragon Age Inquisition saves are
like eighty meg. I have like two

1214
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:54.560
hundred meg of GTA five saves.
Like that's a fourth a fifth to a

1215
01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:57.439
fourth of my space. Right every
time I get a new game, I

1216
01:09:57.479 --> 01:10:00.760
have to go delete something else out
of the cloud storage. Yeah, I've

1217
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:03.079
had to turn off auto upload on
several games saves to make room for stuff.

1218
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:06.199
Like it's crazy, and like Microsoft
is, it's just it's it's just

1219
01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:09.520
there, like you don't even know
how much space you have, because it's

1220
01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:12.840
infinite as far as I know.
They say that they remember asking them about

1221
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:15.479
this stuff prior to the system's launch, and their thing was just like,

1222
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:17.680
we work with developers to make sure
that the save sizes aren't fucking out of

1223
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:20.840
control, and if they need some
of the tide of control, we figure

1224
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:25.319
that out and then it's not something
the users should ever have to deal with,

1225
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:28.239
which I tend to agree with.
I remember there was a ton of

1226
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.800
handwringing, like even with us at
the time, because like, well,

1227
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.239
what if you have a save collision
and what if it doesn't sink right?

1228
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:35.880
You know, because the three sixty
cloud saves could be a real shit show

1229
01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:41.640
if things weren't lining up just right. And I had multiple occasions where I

1230
01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:45.039
got burned by the three sixty with
cloud save stuff just because oh there's no

1231
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:46.680
outage or oh there's this right,
like you're sitting there, You're sitting there

1232
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:49.359
eyeballing time stamps, going like our, which one is the actual save?

1233
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:51.600
I want? Like maybe it's the
older one I can't remember, right,

1234
01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:56.199
and the PS four is is in
some cases exactly that because every time you're

1235
01:10:56.239 --> 01:11:00.840
downloading it and granted whatever, like
you know, most people only have one

1236
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:02.479
PS four, so that like they
it doesn't really matter. Yeah, but

1237
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:04.920
they went to the trouble of building
out this cloud safe feature. It should

1238
01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:08.720
should it should be good, it
should it should be better than it is

1239
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:12.760
because it's it's a nice half thing
and all that sort of stuff. But

1240
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:16.600
like it's crazy that it's still something
that like it users should never have to

1241
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:19.079
think about it. Yeah, like
how much space they have left? And

1242
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:23.520
yeah, totally, but they're you
know, both consoles still getting updated frequently.

1243
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:26.560
Yeah, they're both They're both continuing
to get better. So I'm not

1244
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:30.279
going to write them off or anything. Uh what did I play? I

1245
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:34.199
keep blinking away at actually diverge and
kind of fits some starts. Yeah,

1246
01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:38.560
Like I like that game. It's
really well made. Yeah, it's not

1247
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:43.640
like blowing my mind, Like I
don't know, it's good, Yeah,

1248
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:46.920
is what I'm saying. Yeah,
I don't know. It's like I don't

1249
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:51.239
know that I think it blew my
mind. Yeah that's kind of thing.

1250
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:56.039
But I really really really I guess
what I how can I put this?

1251
01:11:56.119 --> 01:11:58.600
Like it I haven't run in a
situation where I feel like I can't put

1252
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:00.760
it down, you know, like
I'll play it thirty minutes, I'll get

1253
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:01.680
a couple of new items, I'll
make some progress, and I'm like,

1254
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:04.199
all right, cool, and then
I stopped. Well did you have that

1255
01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:09.479
issue with the ri or did you
keep going through that? I mean I

1256
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:14.239
played that one in Bursts two,
but a lot more consistently or steadily.

1257
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:15.319
Did you wind up beating it?
Yeah? Okay, I finished it.

1258
01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:17.720
See I felt kind of the opposite. Yeah, It's like Ori. I

1259
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:19.159
played it and I was like,
all right, yeah, this is cool.

1260
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:21.800
I pick it up, play a
couple hours or whatever. With Axiom,

1261
01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:25.479
I just played it constantly. I
mean, I think we talked about

1262
01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:28.760
that some last week, that it
like those games are largely a personal taste

1263
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:30.720
thing because they are like they're from
the same genre, but they have very

1264
01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:34.039
different play styles and and looks and
everything, you know, like they're kind

1265
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:39.319
of ye see, I don't know. I'll keep going with it like it's

1266
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:44.760
it's very good, but it is
what it is. Uh. And then

1267
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:47.920
uh, I played Dark Souls two
on the PlayStation four. Scholar of the

1268
01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:53.840
first sin uh It's fine runs a
sixty frames a second. For the most

1269
01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:58.239
part, it's pull like boxed retail
release. I didn't know this is coming

1270
01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:01.520
out. Oh yeah, yeah,
so it's weird. The PC version came

1271
01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:06.479
out last week as an upgrade to
the original PC version, so it was

1272
01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:09.840
still that it was not a free
upgrade. No, not at all.

1273
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:13.039
In fact, I don't have it
in front of me, and I would

1274
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:15.840
need to have in front of me
to explain it all. Because so they

1275
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:17.920
put out the original PC version last
year, then thirty dollars of DLC came

1276
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:25.319
out. Now there's this new release
with all the DLC. So yeah,

1277
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:27.840
if you buy it as a new
game, if you didn't own it before,

1278
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:30.079
yeah, you get all the new
DLC. You also get a Direct

1279
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:34.560
x eleven like graphics upgrade. Fun
if you own the original game, I

1280
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:38.920
think you can upgrade for thirty dollars. I think that's the case. I

1281
01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:43.439
believe you get the DLC and the
Direct x eleven for thirty dollars. If

1282
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:45.680
you have the original game and the
DLC, I want to say it's twenty

1283
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:49.840
to get to Direct x eleven.
It's definitely a chunk of money just to

1284
01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:53.760
get the graphics upgrade. Like people
were kind of upset about it, and

1285
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:57.159
like I kind of can understand why. I mean, it's a weird thing

1286
01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:01.079
because like the upgrades break compatibility inversions. So if they just forced an upgrade,

1287
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:03.720
then it would yeah, I guess
would yeah, because it invalidates old

1288
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:06.399
old saves. But the other thing
is that and this rolled out for free.

1289
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:11.000
They've also changed like the like the
enemy placements, like just kind of

1290
01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:14.119
the general layout of where enemies and
stuff are and like which paths are open

1291
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:17.000
to you. They've gone back and
like kind of remixed that basically. Uh,

1292
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:19.960
and it's a lot harder now,
Like they basically went and took enemies

1293
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:24.319
from later in the game and just
kind of shoved them earlier, which is

1294
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:28.600
weird. I feel like I've read
like different takes on the give the games

1295
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:30.960
difficulty now that that it's maybe it's
a little harder in the easier areas,

1296
01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:35.359
but it's it's kind of an even
keeled, really experienced throughout kind of having

1297
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:39.680
peace and valleys. Huh. Okay. I haven't gotten deep in enough to

1298
01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:43.399
see that yet, but that's that's
interesting. If they took like player data,

1299
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:45.600
I don't know, uh, as
somebody who played a lot of Dark

1300
01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:49.600
Souls too, and then came to
this. It's it very much strikes me

1301
01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:53.720
just as like you see a thing
that you know is coming like three hours

1302
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:57.319
later, and you just immediately there's
like a mental disconnect and then you're like,

1303
01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:59.159
oh, they put one of those
here, huh. You know.

1304
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:00.880
It's like it's things that you recognize, you know, it's just bigger enemies,

1305
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.600
harder enemies and stuff, but they
just stick them a lot earlier in

1306
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:06.880
the game when you're not as as
prepared to take them on, which I

1307
01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:12.199
don't know if I'm necessarily appreciating that
so much. That's like it's kind of

1308
01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:14.319
weird, like when, like Jeff, you're talking about like those games are

1309
01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:15.720
all about memorization, right, Yeah, so I imagine like you know,

1310
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:18.520
you know Dark Souls too, if
you played it a lot, you probably

1311
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:23.159
memorized every single day and every dumb
fucking trick years on you. Like a

1312
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:26.119
year later in those early zones,
I totally remember where all the enemies are

1313
01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:29.680
still. Yeah, it's and they're
even cases where like they had the thing

1314
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:31.039
in the original game where they're you
know, the statues that you have to

1315
01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:34.359
unstatue, you know what I'm talking
about Yeah, like the fragrant branch.

1316
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:39.479
Yeah, so they've put more of
those statues earlier in the game and block

1317
01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.720
off paths that you originally were able
to just run right through. So you

1318
01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:45.920
need branches earlier to actually get into
earlier parts of the game. It's weird,

1319
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:49.439
like they've messed with the flow a
lot. I don't know if people

1320
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:53.800
that really like that game, I'm
sure we'll probably appreciate like a different kind

1321
01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:57.439
of path through it. You know. I was just kind of looking for

1322
01:15:57.479 --> 01:16:00.520
the same game with better graphics.
So the changes there are weird, but

1323
01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:04.119
it looks nice on the PS four. It's weird that it's not optional because

1324
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:08.840
like you know that DMC Definitive Edition
has that new hardcore mode, but that's

1325
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.880
a thing you turn on real you
know, like you can play just the

1326
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:15.279
same game with better graphics, or
you can turn on this tweaked mode.

1327
01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:17.159
I'm surprised you can't just like get
on this tweaked mode a darks There's there's

1328
01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:20.279
no concept of like classic mode or
anything like that. It's just here's here's

1329
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:24.880
how it is now. So that's
that's how it is, for better or

1330
01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:28.920
worse. But yeah, it looks
it looks nice on the PS four.

1331
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:31.479
Nice to see one of those games
running more or less at sixty frames a

1332
01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:34.680
second on the console. It's like
that MK two revision where they changed all

1333
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:40.760
the fatalities. When was that it
was like version three, version or whatever.

1334
01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:43.520
I don't I can't remember, changed
to change all the motions. Yeah,

1335
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:45.720
where they're just like, oh,
all the motions to do all the

1336
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:48.920
fatalities got out, let's change a
little. Was that before it was super

1337
01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:53.800
wide release? Yeah? It might
have been. Okay, I don't remember

1338
01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:57.840
that happening. Yeah, it was
being on the Internet at the time.

1339
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:00.560
We're like, what the fuck is
like It's like a very definite reaction to

1340
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:04.359
the early Internet, right figuring everything
out. It's like, okay, there's

1341
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:06.479
no more mystery left in this game, and they're just like, well check

1342
01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:10.279
this out. Fuck you huh.
In my memory, MK three is the

1343
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.960
Internet game. M K two was
the one that I just went to the

1344
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.840
arcade and learned. YEA three was
the one one I had, like a

1345
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:19.840
well access or whatever. Dark Souls
has this weird bug in it that,

1346
01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:23.199
as far as I can tell,
is present in the PS four version.

1347
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:26.279
I guess it was in the PC
version. Where the weapon durability is tied

1348
01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:30.960
to it's basically calculated on a per
frame basis, meaning that yeah, so

1349
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:35.079
so double the frame rate, like
double the rate of weapons degrading effectively.

1350
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:41.199
Uh and sure enough, like I
barely got to the like there was a

1351
01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:45.439
stretch between two bonfires early on where
like my main hand weapon was breaking by

1352
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:48.119
the time I got to the next
bonfire. Weird, like it was granted,

1353
01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:51.600
is like a very feeble weapon,
so you know, maybe less of

1354
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:54.960
a problem later on. But it
just seems I've seen a lot of form

1355
01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:58.640
chatter about this bug, Like it
just it seems crazy that it's been in

1356
01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:00.680
the PC version this long and then
it gets to market on a console version.

1357
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:04.279
But it looks to somewhere I guess, yeah, I'm sure it's probably

1358
01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:06.600
that easy, right my game,
bro, Well, wasn't that the reason?

1359
01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:10.159
You know, like there was a
bunch of fucking weird frame rate ship

1360
01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:15.000
that made them really reluctant to raise
the frame rate originally? Right? Well,

1361
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:17.199
Dark Souls one like that that the
PC the PC port, like all

1362
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:20.000
the DS fixed stuff. Yeah,
it would it would cost some weird behavior

1363
01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:23.760
occasionally, like sliding down a ladder
could make you fall through the world and

1364
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:27.600
stuff like that. Awesome. Uh, to the point that that DSFix actually

1365
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.680
just has a key bound to the
frame rate toggle, so you could just

1366
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:32.359
hit that and drop back to thirty. Yeah. So I guess it would

1367
01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:35.279
also mess up like the jumping physics, like the distance you would jump sometimes

1368
01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:39.079
was weird and stuff. So if
I was about to make a hard jump

1369
01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:41.960
or like slide down a ladder,
would just hit backspace and go to thirty

1370
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:45.600
frames a second and do it and
then go back to sixty weird. Yes,

1371
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:47.439
it's very weird, but yeah that
you know, that re really seems

1372
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:49.800
all right, like it's got all
the dealc in it, which is supposed

1373
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:54.520
to be quite good. I would
like to see it at some point.

1374
01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:58.079
But it's a lot of souls,
like coming right off of blood Borneness.

1375
01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:02.079
It's a lot of those kind of
games to play. Yeah. Uh,

1376
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:08.720
but anyway, it's all I got
for video games, Okay, going Once,

1377
01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:14.880
I got some snacks in Mexico that
were called snacks s N A X.

1378
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:16.119
I was hoping there would be an
X in there somewhere. Yep.

1379
01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:20.039
I opened it up. It was
two hot dogs. Wait, what dogs

1380
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:24.720
aren't snacks? Yeah, I'm sure
they are. I'm just telling you what

1381
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:30.079
I saw between meal snack. It's
more like a Viennese sausage. I don't

1382
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:32.039
have a couple of hot dogs before
dinner, but full size, full size

1383
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:36.000
hot dogs, and they were actually
individually wrapped. Was it just the just

1384
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:40.399
the wiener? Yeah, no,
no bun. But it did come with

1385
01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:44.239
like a sauce packet. It was
sort of like a It's like a soy

1386
01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:47.560
sauce barbecue sauce mix. Sounds good, that sounds fun. I ate it,

1387
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:51.159
and you're here to tell the tale. Yep. I also got pizza

1388
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:57.680
and ham flavored pringles separate. Okays, are good. I was trying to

1389
01:19:57.680 --> 01:19:59.960
parse that in my head for a
second. Ones Really, I thought you

1390
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.720
Serrano ham. I thought you meant
like pizza and ham in one on a

1391
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:06.800
pizza. Well yeah, but you
wouldn't really call out the ham pizza and

1392
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:15.079
a snack flavoring and just pizza flavor
Serrano ham ham chips. It's a Spanish

1393
01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:17.920
cured meat. Okay, I know
Serrano peppers. Yes, Pedro Serrano is

1394
01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:20.439
the guy from Major League all right, I am just learning all kinds of

1395
01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:25.279
stuff here being edified left and right. I'm going to the same part of

1396
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:29.079
Mexico next month, and I'm staying
at a place where it's infinite free food

1397
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:32.000
and booze. I'm sure it's of
an excellent quality. Actually, my mom

1398
01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:34.600
stayed there, and she said it's
actually really good stuff. All right,

1399
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:40.399
So I eat infinite amounts of good
food and drink infinite booze all I went

1400
01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:42.359
to. I went to a wedding
at a resort in Mexico, and that

1401
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:45.760
stuff was pretty good. Actually,
that's pretty great. I don't want it.

1402
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:47.159
Pretty dangerous. I don't want that's
dangerous. I don't want that,

1403
01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:51.359
like, especially in a wedding.
I can't speak for your situation, but

1404
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:56.279
the temptation to get out of bed
and immediately start drinking is it's going to

1405
01:20:56.319 --> 01:20:59.319
happen impossible to ignore. Yeah,
I guess you have like a little mini

1406
01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:01.319
bars and stuff in your Oh yeah, no, that's like you can't like,

1407
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:05.560
oh boy, like we got like
we were handed uh like blended margaritas,

1408
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:10.000
like as we checked into the Yeah, it's literally everywhere you turn,

1409
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:12.479
like you can't escape alcohol. I
guess when you're swimming there, they have

1410
01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:15.840
like bars like you swim up just
and free booze. Yeah, I know

1411
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.239
you, like you can't go three
feet without another bar. Yeah, I'm

1412
01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:23.159
gonna I'm gona have a raspy voice
on the next podcast fun. I might

1413
01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:26.520
do some of that. I'm probably
gonna spend like ninety nine percent of the

1414
01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:30.079
time at the resort drinking free stuff. But I do want to do some

1415
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:31.600
divy stuff. I've never done that. I think you need to, Like,

1416
01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:34.680
you should try to keep a running
tally and then compare how much it

1417
01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:39.359
would it cost to just pay for
all that booze and drink at home in

1418
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:44.399
the dark, versus like going somewhere
specifically to drink. Part of the appeal

1419
01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:46.520
is a beach and it being super
nice and okay, all right, Yeah

1420
01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:49.279
that's part of the appeal then,
because when you talk about it, you

1421
01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:51.279
just like, yeah, I'm gonna
go drink and eat all his food.

1422
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:55.319
I'm like, dude, Yeah,
Like, if you don't just check into

1423
01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.600
a motel six across the street from
a KFC and fucking go nuts, no,

1424
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:00.479
I could drink for much cheaper.
I want to drink on a beach.

1425
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.079
Okay, Yeah, that's a big
part. That's valid. Yeah,

1426
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:06.039
just make sure you don't drink and
dive. No, no, no,

1427
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:10.279
all right, great, all right, it's time for the news. Who's

1428
01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:15.439
ready from news? Good news me? Okay, I planned to glad your

1429
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:21.680
games slapped me across the face with
news DMX involved in gas station hubbub.

1430
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:27.199
Well, we already covered the headline
making late breaking stuff at the top of

1431
01:22:27.199 --> 01:22:31.800
the show. But how abouts Nintendo
News, let's hear it, because they

1432
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:36.439
had that big fat Nintendo Direct yeah, on the first of April. But

1433
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:42.399
as the press release points out,
the latest Nintendo Direct is definitely no joke,

1434
01:22:43.800 --> 01:22:46.000
So let's get into it. I'll
be the judge of that. Well,

1435
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:50.720
yeah, they announced a bunch of
new amibo stuff like like, yeah,

1436
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:55.039
I bet they did. Would you
Would you take the order of the

1437
01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:59.279
announcements in the press release as any
indicator of Nintendo's priorities? I might,

1438
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:01.880
okay, because the amibo stuff is
all right at the top. Yeah,

1439
01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:04.880
for some reason, they are selling
like crazy right at the top. They

1440
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:10.880
are doing quite well with that stuff
these days, I bet. And anecdotally

1441
01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:15.000
discernible reason. Notice a lot of
people on Twitter getting really upset or just

1442
01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:19.880
agitated when new amibos are coming in. Yeah, people, definitely there's an

1443
01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:23.960
antiness. There's an anxiety associated with
it. I'm so glad. I don't

1444
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:27.119
give a shit too. There's a
lot of them. I feel like I

1445
01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:30.560
was right there in the wheelhouse of
people that might give a shit, giving

1446
01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:34.399
given my crippling Skylanders addiction that I
dealt with for two or three years.

1447
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:39.640
But you didn't want the figure,
and like you weren't appreciating the figure for

1448
01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:43.520
its own like inherent value, like
you like the magic effect of putting it

1449
01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:46.000
on the portal and having things in
the game happen. Yeah, amibos don't

1450
01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:49.720
have that. That's the thing I
know. That's the thing that breaks all

1451
01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:53.800
the Amibo stuff for me, is
that the things they do with video games

1452
01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:57.520
seems fucking dumb. They do nothing
and nothing of value. I haven't yet

1453
01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:00.159
to see that. How many are
there now? Oh god, who knows.

1454
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:02.840
Probably be more than that, I
don't think. So. They keep

1455
01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:08.840
announcing new ones. We might call
that names. Bosh, that's yeah,

1456
01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:15.319
that's probably what the that's yeah,
okay, uh sure if you say so.

1457
01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:18.279
Uh. They have now cast John
dot com email address right in.

1458
01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:24.000
That's gonna do it for this week's
show. And yep, uh they not

1459
01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:30.960
much of a new ambo. Uh
they not as cards forget the actual figures.

1460
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:33.520
That thing is there is there's now
a new line of Amibo cards on

1461
01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:38.720
the way, which we'll say it
will also interact with your games in the

1462
01:24:38.760 --> 01:24:42.760
same superficial ways. Can they be
read by the ear reader? I highly

1463
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:45.359
doubt it. Damn it, somehow
I doubt it. I still have them.

1464
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:48.159
I got mine, I had all
the cards. I got a I

1465
01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:53.000
got a ziploc bag with all the
cards in it. You don't play Urban

1466
01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:57.039
Champion or something like a game Boy. Uh, it seems like the cards.

1467
01:24:57.039 --> 01:25:00.239
So the cards are n FC so
they can scan and car Are you

1468
01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:03.560
the same data as the figures.
This doesn't really go into a lot of

1469
01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:06.760
detail about why the cards are a
good thing, other than I'm sure they're

1470
01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:11.479
a lot cheaper to make. Got
like Burdo's batting average on there? I

1471
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:13.960
don't know. Do they do different
things? Was it like, hey,

1472
01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:17.479
we decided not to make any more
of these figurines, but here as a

1473
01:25:17.560 --> 01:25:20.560
card, I think the ladder.
Are they cheaper? I mean, I

1474
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:23.960
dude, I don't know. They
don't have the prices. Listen, do

1475
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:26.399
they say what do they give me
some names? Who's on these cars,

1476
01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:29.560
doesn't say it's just just the top
line item. Ambo Cards, a totally

1477
01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:32.359
new form of Amibo, is coming
this fall Mark McGuire. The first set

1478
01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:35.640
of Ambo cards will be based on
Animal Crossing characters and will be compatible with

1479
01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:39.399
the Animal Crossing a Happy Home Designer. That's a totally different which we'll get

1480
01:25:39.399 --> 01:25:41.520
to. But I mean the point
is like, yeah, you know,

1481
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:45.239
different games will require either cards or
figures or both or whatever. But I

1482
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:47.399
don't think the cards have any inherent
capability that the figures don't, right,

1483
01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:50.359
Yeah, yeah, you would think
they're they're like I said, they're NFC.

1484
01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:56.479
They're they're launching an NFC reader for
the non new three DS models.

1485
01:25:57.720 --> 01:26:02.279
Huh yep. It's a little dongle, little uh portally looking thing. Can

1486
01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:04.920
you plug that and the circle pad
pro And at the same time, I

1487
01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:09.199
don't know, it doesn't say how
it connects. It's a good question.

1488
01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:13.760
I really want them now to release
a like eye tracker that you can put

1489
01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:15.760
on the top. It can make
the three D better them all. In

1490
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:19.319
the same time, I believe there
was a there was a grassroots effort to

1491
01:26:19.319 --> 01:26:25.720
take say the Skylanders portal was just
USB and you could just plug it in

1492
01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:29.279
to a PC, which actually I
think worked with their weird flash game.

1493
01:26:29.279 --> 01:26:31.439
But anyway, it in fact it
did. It definitely did. I did

1494
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:40.760
that. But I think you could
also rewrite the data on a Skylanders figure

1495
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:44.840
to make a different Skylanders figure,
So I stuff's just standard NFC. At

1496
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:47.479
some point you could probably do all
kinds of fucking nefarious weird ship. Yeah.

1497
01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:51.079
I was gonna say, use your
portal of power to steal passport information.

1498
01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:57.600
Yeah that's power. Sure, I
guess so. Yeah, but I

1499
01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:00.399
bet you know if they're gonna work
with this animal crossing thing, it's about

1500
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:02.319
like fashion and design and animal crossing
characters and all that sort of stuff,

1501
01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:05.560
like those are the things you make
figures for. I guess they don't have

1502
01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:11.399
the inherent like like the Wee Fit
Trainer. Everyone looks at that and goes

1503
01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:13.920
like, ah, that classic Nintendo
figure. I need that, whether I

1504
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:15.880
want to play the game or not. Yeah, I guess I guess you

1505
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:19.119
could see. Well, it says
that they could see them establishing a lower

1506
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:23.520
class amibo that is card only.
Here's a lamp that is just like,

1507
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:26.640
yeah, well this does say they
will be based on animal crossing characters.

1508
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:29.720
But but you're right. Yeah,
like it's like here's here's window trim on

1509
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:31.119
a card from her house, yeah
or something. You might be right,

1510
01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:35.119
or you know, it could just
be like, you know, the there

1511
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:42.159
are two characters and animal crossing that
matter, and you make figures for those.

1512
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:45.880
I guess that's true, and and
then the rest are all cards or

1513
01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:47.359
something. You know, maybe they
go that way with it. I'm not

1514
01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:55.720
sure. Uh. They announced Splatune
me amibos. They announced yarn Yoshi amibos

1515
01:27:55.720 --> 01:28:00.359
made out of actual yarn, real
yarn. Yep. All right, very

1516
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:06.319
same d see at this point.
Yeah, kind of more more Mario Kart

1517
01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:13.039
eight Ambo Integration get Suits gets costumes
for like MegaMan and Sonic and pac Man

1518
01:28:13.079 --> 01:28:16.359
in Mario Kart if you scan the
appropriate ambos. So that's just like a

1519
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:19.800
me dressed up as MegaMan, right, that's typically I don't know how Mario

1520
01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:25.279
Kart handles costumes, but yes,
it's basically unlockable outfits because you bought the

1521
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:28.359
action figure. Okay, it's not
like you have MegaMan and Mario Kart and

1522
01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:30.960
since you have I don't know,
MegaMan hat or something, who knows what

1523
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:33.640
they're going to pass into that game, you know, like they could they

1524
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:38.159
could do it right. Last time
Mega Man drove a go kart, it

1525
01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:43.680
went pretty well. Which one was
that Rockman Battle and Child Chase? I

1526
01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:45.279
forget what they called it here.
They eventually did bring it over and then

1527
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:49.600
they have something called Ambo tap Nintendo's
the Greatest Bits. Wait is that when

1528
01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:54.600
you put it on a shoebox and
then yeah, god, yep, exactly

1529
01:28:54.640 --> 01:29:00.640
what that is? Play classic Nintendo
games using Ambo. Within those Greatest Bits,

1530
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:03.039
users can download the free application from
the Ninteno e Shop and tap any

1531
01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:11.239
amibo to unlock gameplay highlights from Select
Nes and Super in Nes games. Like

1532
01:29:11.279 --> 01:29:13.880
when they say highlights, I assume
that just meant like a video clip but

1533
01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:16.199
demos, but it does say play
classics. Could just be like if you

1534
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:20.560
tap Mario to this app, then
it lets you play one level of Donkey

1535
01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:24.039
Kong. Right, it sounds a
lot like it has a link to the

1536
01:29:24.319 --> 01:29:26.520
shop. It sounds like the full
game. It sounds like any s remix.

1537
01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:29.720
You know, it's like here's here's
a like thirty second thing you can

1538
01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:31.239
play. But that would that was
at least they were trying to chop it

1539
01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:34.039
up in different ways and stuff.
This just is I bet it's just demos

1540
01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:38.399
four old games more like Smash Brothers. It's like, oh, here's the

1541
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:42.199
Masterpieces collection or whatever, like go
get the Sword and the first Zelda.

1542
01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:45.279
It's Nintendo pivoting. No are they
pivoting before our very eyes? I don't

1543
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:47.680
know. I mean, I mean
they just announced the mobile stuff. So

1544
01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:51.560
yeah, yeah, I suppose that's
yeah, sure they're not. They're not

1545
01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:55.479
giving up on their old ship though. Oh I know. So it's like

1546
01:29:55.520 --> 01:29:58.800
there's plenty of other news here if
you want to say they're expanding. Yeah,

1547
01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:02.000
yes, they're diversifying. I just
I never I like, I figured

1548
01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:06.039
Amibos would do just fine, but
like the apparent fervor around them, there's

1549
01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:09.239
a little bit startling. Mean,
you got to capitalize on that when it's

1550
01:30:09.279 --> 01:30:11.199
there. Yeah, And for me, I you know, I think the

1551
01:30:11.479 --> 01:30:15.239
real test is like how many of
the ones that sell out do they reissue?

1552
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:20.840
Because you think about the early days
of Skylanders, the supply problem created

1553
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:24.640
a lot of hype and fervor,
and maybe they constrained supply a little bit,

1554
01:30:24.680 --> 01:30:28.319
but also they probably lost some money
there by not having as many to

1555
01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:30.920
sell, and they eventually put all
that stuff back out with the amibos,

1556
01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:34.439
like they're they say they're retiring them
or something. They're they're doing beanie babies,

1557
01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:36.720
they're doing straight up Disney Vault type
thing. Yeah, or they're like

1558
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:40.840
oh you know, or no,
because the Vault did they take it back

1559
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:43.159
out, whereas these are just like, hey, we made this many we

1560
01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:45.399
fit trainers, and that's gonna be
it because not that many people actually want

1561
01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:48.960
them. That extra sucks and like, okay, well, you know,

1562
01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:53.920
if you didn't get Marth amibo then
or you know, then they can end

1563
01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:57.199
up reissuing it, which I think
actually is how they're solving the Marth problem

1564
01:30:57.319 --> 01:31:00.920
is there. I haven't been following
this super closely, so I could be

1565
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:03.760
super wrong, but I think they're
issuing another Marth Amibo in a different pose

1566
01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:09.319
that is like fire Ambom Edition Marth
that will do all the same stuff as

1567
01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:12.399
the other Marth figure. It'll just
look different. So people that bought that

1568
01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:16.760
first one that has become rare don't
feel like they've been burned or something like

1569
01:31:16.760 --> 01:31:19.760
that. I don't know, like
that's the whole thing's nuts. Yep,

1570
01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:26.319
if you open to them, you're
already fucked anyway. So like, if

1571
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:30.680
you're sitting there thinking that these are
collectible, like, then you shouldn't open

1572
01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:35.520
them or write data to them.
I feel queasy right now. Yeah,

1573
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:40.720
probably just fine with my un Kai
watch coins. Good. Yes, let's

1574
01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:45.039
move on to video game news.
What do you say, Mario Maker,

1575
01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:47.520
do they announce any of what any
of the new amibo figures are? Yeah?

1576
01:31:47.560 --> 01:31:50.279
I mean, like, you know, the Splatoon figures are Inkling Girl,

1577
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:55.520
Inkling Boy, and Inkling Squid.
They asked a release date for that

1578
01:31:55.560 --> 01:31:59.039
too, right, so yeah,
May twenty nine. I thought that had

1579
01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:02.800
already been yeah, p yeah,
that's pretty soon. Yeah, it's not

1580
01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:10.199
that far off. Uh, Mario
Bakers coming out in September. Uh.

1581
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:13.520
It sounds like they ever confirmed that
you were going to be able to share

1582
01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:15.319
levels online because it says that here. Yes, I think I think that

1583
01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:18.880
is what this thing finally was.
Is they finally used verbiage that makes that

1584
01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:21.880
sound like a good thing, where
they're like, yes, you can shared

1585
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:28.439
worlds, packs of levels shared,
like and did they confirm two three in

1586
01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:30.319
world kind of like pixel sets and
stuff. I'm not sure about that.

1587
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:35.239
I think they confirmed physics changes sets
the thing I think they might actually be

1588
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:41.680
doing right by that thing on top
to bottom, so it delay it right,

1589
01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:46.319
Yeah, okay, hopefully to include
all that stuff that we wont There's

1590
01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:51.520
a two hundred cc mode coming to
Mario Kart eight cool for the first time

1591
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:55.439
ever. They were a quick to
point out they've never had a two hundred

1592
01:32:55.439 --> 01:32:58.800
cc mode before. That actually sounds
pretty cool. I'll play that faster Mario

1593
01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:04.479
Kart. I'll do that, I
guess, so sure. Maybe okay.

1594
01:33:05.479 --> 01:33:11.239
Uh a new fatal frame coming to
EU. Shan mcgat me Tense and fire

1595
01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:14.520
Emblem crossover is happening. Whoa,
Yeah, they announced that a while ago.

1596
01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:16.000
This is what. Did they say
anything specific about it or it was

1597
01:33:16.079 --> 01:33:18.640
kind of reaffirmed, like, hey, the still exactly. This press release

1598
01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:25.000
is a very top level. I
meant to watch that video before we came

1599
01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:27.760
in here to get some of the
nuance, but did not have time.

1600
01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:32.520
Uh yeh, She's Wily World coming
this fall. They say, uh sixty

1601
01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:38.479
four and DS games are on virtual
console now, the WU Virtual Console.

1602
01:33:38.439 --> 01:33:42.720
Oh yes, yes, yes,
I sometimes I forget you. Distinction are

1603
01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:45.560
on the WU Virtual I think they
were. Weren't they on there briefly like

1604
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:49.560
a year ago and they took him
down, i'd swear, or maybe it

1605
01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:54.399
was three DSc shop. Do you
think it's TV and game pad? Yeah?

1606
01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:58.079
Really, that's cool. It is
cool, I would assume, so

1607
01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:00.239
I haven't done it, but yeah, let's see why I hang on Warrio

1608
01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:03.319
We're Touched as one of the early
ones. While playing Nintendo DS games,

1609
01:34:03.319 --> 01:34:08.039
the TV and game pad combinations will
provide various options for bull screen layouts.

1610
01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:12.479
Oh so maybe you could put both
of them on the the game pad or

1611
01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:15.600
something if you want to. Or
oh, and what their background looks like?

1612
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:18.479
I guess it just a black screen
with two screens like? Or do

1613
01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:23.039
they do Super game Boy borders?
Yes, Warrio We're Touched, and Donkey

1614
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:30.760
Coming sixty four are Radiance coming?
Says a great game mulkey rap okay,

1615
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:33.560
a good rap uh and then yeah, Animal Crossing Happy Home Designer, I

1616
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:38.520
guess is the only like actual new
game announced out of all this, which

1617
01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:42.960
basically sounds like an animal Crossing with
everything but the house decorating taken away.

1618
01:34:43.359 --> 01:34:45.079
I'm sure they'll build it out,
you know, sure there'll be plenty more

1619
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:49.199
to the decoration stuff, but you
know, no more, no more picking

1620
01:34:49.239 --> 01:34:54.239
fruit. We're paying Tom Nook.
That's all the fun stuff an animals.

1621
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:57.199
Presumably the house is already paid off
and you're just here to dress it up.

1622
01:34:57.279 --> 01:35:00.680
Oh yeah, you well, animals
will ask players to design houses for

1623
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:02.279
them, and it's up to designers
and making to meet the animal's requests by

1624
01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:05.560
furnishing and decorating the home. Yeah, it's probably like make your Own music

1625
01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:09.000
video where they say, like they
cut out all the pictures of the money,

1626
01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:15.039
but leaven that picture of that bird. The house is fat fat.

1627
01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:20.560
Yes, this sounds very heavily tied
into that new Amibo card series. So

1628
01:35:21.279 --> 01:35:26.039
take that as you will, scan
it. I mean you there were animal

1629
01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:28.640
crossing e cards. Man, you
get that d card reader. Scan in

1630
01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:32.640
a fucking desk, scan in a
copy of Donkey Kong for your house.

1631
01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:40.640
Have you guys heard of box Boys
from how Yes, I've heard good things

1632
01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:43.000
about that. Watched the trailer for
it. I kind of want to play

1633
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:47.479
it. Yes, it looks neat. Yeah that that came out the day

1634
01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:53.760
after the direct Uh. You know. Other random stuff about Puzzle and dragon

1635
01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:58.520
z. There's a new fire Emblom
game coming m on the three DS.

1636
01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:06.199
Pokemon Rumble whirld no idea what Pokemon
Rumble is it's free anybody? What is

1637
01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:11.960
Pokemon Rumble is that somebody has to
know? Here, Pokemon Puzzle and Dragons.

1638
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:15.680
I thought that was Pokemon Shuffle.
There is no no puzzle on dragons.

1639
01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:17.840
Is Mario Pokemon No? No,
but like there's a Pokemon rip off

1640
01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:23.079
of Puzzle and Dragon. Yeah.
I thought Pokemon Shuffle was Shuffle. Yeah,

1641
01:36:23.079 --> 01:36:25.520
because Shuffle is already free. What
is that game? I don't know

1642
01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:30.359
what Rumble World is, but they
do refer to it as the latest in

1643
01:36:30.399 --> 01:36:33.000
the Pokemon Rumble series. It has
to be some Yeah, Pokemon Rumble was

1644
01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:35.960
it? Yeah? It was a
we wear game. Okay, uh this

1645
01:36:36.079 --> 01:36:41.079
this is listed as free to download
with paid content. Oh so this is

1646
01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:45.159
basically free to play. It's driving
me crazy. What is the Pokemon Shuffle

1647
01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:47.239
game? Pokemon Puzzle, Yeah,
puzzle, That's what I'm thinking of.

1648
01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:51.439
Okay, Pokemon Rumble is like real
time combat and stuff. It's like a

1649
01:36:51.479 --> 01:37:00.680
weird yeah, but I think Pokemon
Shuffle is, uh is the one that

1650
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:03.720
is similar to Puzzle and Dragons.
They got a bunch of football players to

1651
01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:10.439
sing a song. Yeah. The
Pokemon or not don't want to cause any

1652
01:37:10.479 --> 01:37:15.000
trouble, right, They're just here
to do the Pokemon shlf. Great.

1653
01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:19.720
Moving on, there's an update to
codename Steam that people have probably heard about

1654
01:37:19.720 --> 01:37:25.239
by now. It speeds things up. That sounds great and also baffling.

1655
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:29.720
Yes, that was the main thing
that sucked about that game, and it

1656
01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:32.079
shipped with that in it. I
don't know, I wonder like, you

1657
01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:35.319
know, like I've seen plenty of
people saying, like I, even if

1658
01:37:35.319 --> 01:37:38.640
that wasn't a problem, there's a
lot of other stuff I don't like about

1659
01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:41.119
this. I don't think it's a
dynamite game, but that was easily the

1660
01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:44.319
thing I disliked the most about it. This can't be a oh, you

1661
01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:46.960
know what, Well, we let's
decide to make this speed up. I've

1662
01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:51.800
got that's a I've got to believe
that's a like under the hood horsepower.

1663
01:37:54.039 --> 01:37:57.680
Oh. I one hundred percent believe
that they didn't grasp ad of time that

1664
01:37:57.720 --> 01:38:00.680
people were gonna be upset about that
any focus play that game and not happened.

1665
01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:04.039
That's not a new thing, you
know, like old x Comm games

1666
01:38:04.039 --> 01:38:08.079
did that. Like there are turn
based strategy games where you just sit there

1667
01:38:08.079 --> 01:38:10.319
waiting for the CPU to go.
But I feel like that was the sort

1668
01:38:10.359 --> 01:38:13.479
of thing where that was you know, the checkers on the twenty six hundred

1669
01:38:13.479 --> 01:38:17.039
member we played game room. Yes, the emphasis on the hundred yea,

1670
01:38:17.159 --> 01:38:20.520
yeah, you know, maybe they're
not paying attention. Is that live now?

1671
01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:23.359
As far as I know, I
kind of want to try it?

1672
01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:27.119
Then well that's it does say upcoming, but this was from last week,

1673
01:38:27.159 --> 01:38:30.279
so I'm like, hang on,
yeah, I know it doesn't say exactly

1674
01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:33.359
when it's coming out. It's coming
alongside that blood Born loadings patch yep,

1675
01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:40.359
yes, please understand, a couple
of street Pass games are coming. There's

1676
01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:44.159
an attack on Titan game coming.
I didn't find the blood Born load times

1677
01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:48.479
to be that much of a problem. What sometimes sometimes in that game,

1678
01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:53.000
it seems like after a death you
need a little time to reflect. Anyway,

1679
01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:56.479
I guess, And I had my
phone, so I just looked at

1680
01:38:56.479 --> 01:39:01.279
my phone. I guess, Uh, mewtwo was coming to smash anybody?

1681
01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:03.960
Yes, any view two fans in
the house. I mean, I'm a

1682
01:39:04.039 --> 01:39:12.319
MU two fan. But five bucks
what? I don't know why I had

1683
01:39:12.319 --> 01:39:15.680
that reaction to it. Like fighting
games sell characters all the time, but

1684
01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:20.239
for some reason, the concept of
paying for another Smash Brothers character really reusing

1685
01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:24.720
me. The wrong way, probably
because there's so many of them and they're

1686
01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:27.640
not as intricate as like a street
fight or four character. You know,

1687
01:39:27.720 --> 01:39:30.720
they have like a few basic specials. See all right, you don't understand

1688
01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:35.319
take out tripping, I don't know, or put it back in. I

1689
01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:41.720
don't know which, whichever one?
Uh? And then I guess you guys

1690
01:39:41.720 --> 01:39:44.439
have seen that ballot, right,
Yeah, you can go in and vote

1691
01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:48.359
for your Yeah yeah, wait,
they're taking votes for Smash Brothers. Go

1692
01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:55.680
to smash bros dot com. I
saw people writing in brock Lesner, I

1693
01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:59.920
would like that. Oh. I
tweeted out that everyone should vote for whileauig

1694
01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:02.479
uh and it actually got a lot
of sport. A lot of people seem

1695
01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:09.399
to agree with me. And then
I saw Nintendo said Walluigi is not qualified.

1696
01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:14.479
He you cannot do Wallauigi therest trophy. There were some pretty specifics for

1697
01:40:14.520 --> 01:40:18.920
eligibility here. Uh, Brocklesner fully
inenoricable. I think he might be in

1698
01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:21.720
there's I didn't unlock everything, but
he's probably in there as an assist trophy.

1699
01:40:21.760 --> 01:40:28.680
Okay, he uses his big dumb
sword tattoo to big dumb cut people

1700
01:40:28.800 --> 01:40:32.319
or something. What else? This
this doesn't say that old ass cartoon with

1701
01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:34.720
the kid with the tattoos and he
takes the tattoos off and Dutch anyway,

1702
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:39.760
that's pretty cool. Yeah, there's
a whole bunch of like people that are

1703
01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:42.880
disqualified if they're in there as an
assist trophy or anything. Yeah, like

1704
01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:45.560
they have to be from a specific
pool of characters like all this stuff.

1705
01:40:45.239 --> 01:40:47.920
Also, if I knew that that
was coming and I was working on Smash

1706
01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:51.279
Brothers, it would be the most
vindictive fucking assist trophy list in the world.

1707
01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:54.840
He'd be like, No, we
don't want to make wa Luigi because

1708
01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:58.159
he fucking sucks. Make sure he's
in there as a trophy because fuck him.

1709
01:40:58.680 --> 01:41:00.239
I'm sure this info is out there
where, but this press release makes

1710
01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:04.279
no mention whatsoever of what's actually gonna
come to this ballot. It doesn't say

1711
01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:10.600
like riesem like they've guaranteed that they're
including anyone. It's just like, oh,

1712
01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:12.560
if you want to make a request, it's like it's like the rock

1713
01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:15.159
band fucking request song thing that like
they'll look at it and go is that

1714
01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:18.159
feasible? Right? Well, there
will the last The last sentence of this

1715
01:41:18.279 --> 01:41:21.760
is fans can use this ballot to
vote for which character they'd like to see

1716
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:25.319
added to Super Smash Brothers from into
the Three d S and WEU as a

1717
01:41:25.319 --> 01:41:28.199
playable character period. Yeah. I
think that's not like, oh, we'll

1718
01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:30.399
take a look at the ballots or
winner, winner will be announced in May.

1719
01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:33.159
Like I'm just they probably just put
that on there to have a centralized

1720
01:41:33.159 --> 01:41:38.560
funnel for bullshit. Direct your hopes
here. It's just like you fucking stop

1721
01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:41.840
hitting us up across the fucking board
about what fucking character you want in this

1722
01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:45.319
game. Go to this website,
click submit, and oh, we'll tally

1723
01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:48.359
it up. You know, it's
stupid. I think it does say somewhere

1724
01:41:48.520 --> 01:41:51.199
that like, yeah, you can
enter on this ballot by you know,

1725
01:41:51.359 --> 01:41:56.760
anytime before October tenth or something insane
like that. Yeah, there's no indication

1726
01:41:56.800 --> 01:42:00.479
in this but no year. There's
no indication of this will culminate in anything

1727
01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:06.359
whatsoever, which I can kind of
appreciate. That was pretty much it Popeye,

1728
01:42:08.119 --> 01:42:11.960
Okay, a Nintendo classic, play
fucking Popeye in that game. Yeah,

1729
01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:14.520
they did put that out, didn't
they. Gretzky's right, the wrench

1730
01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:16.960
from Wreck and Crew. Yeah,
okay, yeah, no, that's an

1731
01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:21.960
assistant. No, I don't know, pretty uh bland direct overall, I

1732
01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:26.199
think, like the last direct,
I don't know, hearing that Mario Maker

1733
01:42:26.399 --> 01:42:30.039
seems to be potentially on the right
track here, like that to me is

1734
01:42:30.159 --> 01:42:33.079
crucial. Yeah, but that's because
you really want Mario Maker. I'm just

1735
01:42:33.079 --> 01:42:36.199
saying, like top level, like
not much in the way of game announcements

1736
01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:41.920
or these things. They're never three
like they you know, the last one,

1737
01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:45.439
the last one yielded the Jew's Mask
three DS, like you know,

1738
01:42:45.560 --> 01:42:46.800
that was a pretty big announcement.
Not really, that was a pretty big

1739
01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:50.039
announcement. It was a big announcement. It was it's like a here's another

1740
01:42:50.039 --> 01:42:53.359
rerelease. We've been doing some of
these lately. Here it was. It

1741
01:42:53.399 --> 01:42:55.640
was predictable as hell, but yeah, it was the type of thing you

1742
01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:59.119
announced it a Nintendo Direct, not
Eddie three. But it was still as

1743
01:42:59.119 --> 01:43:03.680
who would care? It made it
impact people cared who those people are?

1744
01:43:03.680 --> 01:43:08.600
Crazy? Okay, sure whatever,
anyway, whatever, you know, wait

1745
01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:15.479
Tilly three for the big stuff,
hopefully hopefully, I mean yeah, like

1746
01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:21.159
nose Elda, so there's gonna be
something who remembers on live? Oh yeah?

1747
01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:26.399
Oh yeah, well what get ready
to forget about on live? Because

1748
01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:30.800
it doesn't exist anymore. Online is
shutting down completely. They're streaming game services

1749
01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:36.199
going away, didn't they They they
pivoted, yes, yes, twenty twelve.

1750
01:43:36.399 --> 01:43:39.880
I looked up. It was like
as they they were going bankrupt and

1751
01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:43.159
then they kept it around to some
other type of service. They laid off

1752
01:43:43.159 --> 01:43:46.000
a lot of people in twenty twelve, and uh, they sort of scaled

1753
01:43:46.039 --> 01:43:49.960
down their service. They launched a
one hundred dollars micro console quote unquote,

1754
01:43:50.039 --> 01:43:55.359
yeah, which was the thing that
you could stream the games too. That

1755
01:43:55.439 --> 01:43:58.520
was a while ago though, that's
yeah, it's almost three years since that

1756
01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:00.560
happened. They pivoted because they were
no, no, I'm sorry, I'm

1757
01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:04.119
sorry. The micro console came out
in twenty ten. Yeah, the layoffs

1758
01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:09.199
and the restructuring were in twenty twelve. Uh, yeah, they yeah,

1759
01:44:09.199 --> 01:44:15.319
they they they changed the plan midway
through because it became at some point they

1760
01:44:15.319 --> 01:44:17.520
were just like selling digital games and
then some of them you could stream.

1761
01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:21.159
Something was it was like a hybrid
service where you were basically buying games that

1762
01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:25.319
you could either download or stream right
instead of a subscription service, and you

1763
01:44:25.359 --> 01:44:28.279
could stream everything. Yeah, so
so people that bought those hybrid games will

1764
01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:30.920
actually still be able to keep the
downloaded games on Steam. You just obviously

1765
01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:34.560
will not be able to stream them
anymore. Sure that will thing reminded me

1766
01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:39.520
of game Tap, Yeah, where
it was like here's the subscription service,

1767
01:44:39.600 --> 01:44:43.319
but like they're not getting games at
a rate that makes you want to care.

1768
01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:46.560
Yes, this gameplays still exist.
Yeah, it's still out there.

1769
01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:51.279
So the you know, obviously not
super surprising since we hadn't heard much out

1770
01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:57.000
of online for a while that they're
going away, but I was surprised to

1771
01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:00.479
some extent to hear that it was
still a going concern. Yes, But

1772
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:03.279
the interesting aspect of the story is
that they have sold their patent portfolio to

1773
01:45:03.319 --> 01:45:09.680
Sony, which is kind of crazy
because Sony already spent a boatload on Guy

1774
01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:13.520
Kai. I wonder if this just
prevents someone else from getting something similar and

1775
01:45:13.680 --> 01:45:15.520
fucking wraps it up. So that's
what's crazy about this, right, Like

1776
01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:20.880
any pattent sit on live had that
that we're not somehow replicated and Guy Kai's

1777
01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:27.439
tech like like all those things now
exist at Sony, So maybe Sony,

1778
01:45:27.560 --> 01:45:30.560
yeah doubling down on PlayStation now,
maybe that thing's been doing really well.

1779
01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:33.800
Have you guys messed with any of
the sheer play stuff. Really, I

1780
01:45:34.319 --> 01:45:40.720
like that last firmware doubled the frame
rate potentially, that doesn't Yeah, I

1781
01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:42.960
don't know. I just I just
don't really have a scenario where which I

1782
01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:45.760
would do that. Yeah, I
don't know. I was looking for I

1783
01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:48.560
was looking for something that I couldn't
find an acting verge over the weekend,

1784
01:45:48.600 --> 01:45:51.159
and I was asking Kessler about it, and he was like, you should

1785
01:45:51.159 --> 01:45:55.159
just share play me so I can
just see what you're talking about. But

1786
01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:58.560
getting up and going, yeah,
I was gonna say that sounds like something

1787
01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:00.279
who works for Sony would say,
because they like I was like obviously all

1788
01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:02.840
up on everything that console can do, and like wait what, oh right,

1789
01:46:02.880 --> 01:46:04.840
I guess it can do that can't. But more to the point,

1790
01:46:04.840 --> 01:46:08.319
it's like we're already chatting in this
text window, like i'd have to go

1791
01:46:08.319 --> 01:46:11.079
in the other room booth thing.
I could send you an invite go back

1792
01:46:11.119 --> 01:46:14.000
to the place in the game,
Like I could say, so, can

1793
01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:15.680
you beat this boss for me?
I can see the appeal in some cases,

1794
01:46:15.720 --> 01:46:18.640
but but a lot of the time
it's just kind of more effort than

1795
01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:20.600
it's worth. It seems the sort
of thing that makes sense, like if

1796
01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:24.399
you're already right there chatting with someone. Yes, if I had been in

1797
01:46:24.439 --> 01:46:26.880
the game at the part I was
talking about, then you could give control

1798
01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:30.640
to him and he would delete your
safe Yep. Oh, hopefully finally you'll

1799
01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:33.800
be free from this nightmare. Yeah, you know. That's there's not a

1800
01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:38.960
lot of like not a lot of
like hard conclusions you can draw from this,

1801
01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:41.520
other than to say, like,
well, Tony has further beefed up

1802
01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:45.800
there kind of on demand streaming efforts, And who's to say what they're gonna

1803
01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:48.199
do with that stuff at very least
their patent portfolio guarding it. Yes,

1804
01:46:48.439 --> 01:46:51.760
yeah, I mean what they can
do or what they are legally allowed to

1805
01:46:51.800 --> 01:46:55.840
do with that tech has has expanded. Well, I wonder if they had

1806
01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:58.960
to license anything from on live,
oh, like if they already had an

1807
01:46:59.079 --> 01:47:01.319
arrangement in place of that stuff.
This could just be a long term cost

1808
01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:05.319
saving measure sort of continuing to pay
whoever gets these patents. Let's just get

1809
01:47:05.319 --> 01:47:13.159
the patents ourselves. I don't know. I was like the part of me

1810
01:47:13.279 --> 01:47:15.199
that the boar's anti competitive nature or
behavior, you know, like that the

1811
01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:18.359
nature of this kind of business sort
of wishes somebody like a Microsoft had snapped

1812
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:21.880
that stuff up just to see it's
some healthier kind of head to head stuff

1813
01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:25.960
going on. Yeah, but at
the same time, I don't care about

1814
01:47:26.079 --> 01:47:29.399
streaming games. I mean they were
probably for sale for years. Yeah,

1815
01:47:29.399 --> 01:47:32.640
like if if somebody else wanted that
stuff. I remember my limited exposure to

1816
01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:35.760
on Live was that it was not
away I wanted to play game. Yes,

1817
01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:38.600
well, I mean that's not to
say it couldn't have gotten better.

1818
01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:42.239
Oh sure, And I'm sure it
has since online has done stuff like like

1819
01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:45.199
the PlayStation now stuff that I've used
has been better than online that I used

1820
01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:47.880
years ago. But like, I
still don't want to play games that way.

1821
01:47:47.960 --> 01:47:54.039
Yea, like until they like they
effectively need to eliminate the latency altogether

1822
01:47:54.159 --> 01:47:57.640
for me to care, and that's
gonna be tough for a while. Yeah,

1823
01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:02.560
or you know, you know,
maybe that becomes a potential solution to

1824
01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:08.600
their suck ass fucking download speeds.
Is hey, stream it right now while

1825
01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:11.399
it downloads in the background, or
you know, like that's maybe a bad

1826
01:48:11.439 --> 01:48:15.600
scenario because you need that bandwidth.
But yeah, maybe it's like Okay,

1827
01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:17.600
well you're we're gonna download this game
for you, But if you just want

1828
01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:20.560
to start playing it right now?
You can stream it, are you're pretty

1829
01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:24.479
cool? Yeah? Or you know, it could be a demo thing.

1830
01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:28.359
It's like, hey, here's how
you play totally like like demos and stuff

1831
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:31.479
like that. Could totally work that
way. Yeah. I guess we'll find

1832
01:48:31.479 --> 01:48:35.920
out whatever happens, it'll be on
a PlayStation, that's for sure. I

1833
01:48:35.920 --> 01:48:40.159
bet there's some way around some of
those patents. Well yeah, other people

1834
01:48:40.239 --> 01:48:43.800
to get in there. Yeah,
I mean it's it's a video stream that

1835
01:48:43.840 --> 01:48:48.199
you're con I mean, it's not
sure which plays Pokemon would be in violation,

1836
01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:54.239
wouldn't it. Yeah, maybe Quantum
Break is not coming out next year.

1837
01:48:54.319 --> 01:48:58.199
Here is your Weekly delayed. In
the twenty sixteen story, that was

1838
01:48:58.239 --> 01:49:00.359
a great way to remind me that
on Brick exists. Yeah, it's kind

1839
01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:04.119
of been right. They've been pretty
They went dark with that game for quite

1840
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:09.319
a while. I still really like
Remedy in what they do, so I'm

1841
01:49:09.319 --> 01:49:13.119
certainly excited to see what happens with
that, But not this year. They're

1842
01:49:13.119 --> 01:49:15.920
getting weirder with the TV stuff,
you think, Yeah, because that whole

1843
01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:18.319
thing was like a supposed to be
a hybrid TV show. Everybody thinks that,

1844
01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:24.439
but like I it's just cut scenes, like they said that ages ago.

1845
01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:28.279
It's just F and V cut scenes
like theyre may be branching and stuff,

1846
01:49:28.319 --> 01:49:30.119
but there's no actual TV show attached
to this. I thought there was

1847
01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:34.720
some weird way you access it other
than just scene in the game. I

1848
01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:41.279
don't think so. Like I think
that because he got announced alongside it absolutely

1849
01:49:41.720 --> 01:49:43.600
got announced at the same time that
they were saying like, yeah, we're

1850
01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:45.640
getting in TV production and stuff,
which sounds like they're not in anyway that

1851
01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:50.840
shut down. I think people People
and and Remedy was out there saying that,

1852
01:49:50.920 --> 01:49:54.760
you know, they were kind of
looking at the way that television series

1853
01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:57.520
tell stories and how they could like
use that in their games and stuff like

1854
01:49:57.560 --> 01:50:00.520
that. Like I think people podcasts
be a beacon. Yeah, I think

1855
01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:02.960
people can flat with a lot of
things about that stuff. But as far

1856
01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:05.800
as I can tell, Quantum Break
is just a third person shooter with F

1857
01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:09.800
ANDB cut scenes. In any event, I would like to see that more

1858
01:50:09.880 --> 01:50:15.199
FMV from Remedy. Yeah. Maybe
I wonder if maybe if Battlefield Hardline kind

1859
01:50:15.199 --> 01:50:19.359
of beat him to the punch on
the whole episodic TV construction episodes of a

1860
01:50:19.399 --> 01:50:25.159
show, Well, Alwake did it
for one thing, who's to say that,

1861
01:50:25.239 --> 01:50:27.479
Yeah, who's to say that they
were going to huge directly to that

1862
01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:30.760
format anyway? But also but also
yes, Alan Wake totally did that.

1863
01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:34.039
Oh you're like, Alan Wake totally
has a last time on type thing.

1864
01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:38.560
Yep, here's some beach Boys of
course. I don't know. I always

1865
01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:42.199
like remedies FMV stuff when it's off, it's on the fringe of the game

1866
01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:44.800
where you kind of have to like
stop and look at it, look at

1867
01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:46.439
a TV screen. Yeah, Wake, And that seems like if it's if

1868
01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:49.479
it's up in your face, it's
gonna like raise the stakes on how good

1869
01:50:49.520 --> 01:50:55.279
that stuff has to be because kitchy
funny right in their previous games, right,

1870
01:50:55.319 --> 01:50:58.720
totally, Yeah, the Address unknown
stuff and night Springs and all those

1871
01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:02.039
things. So yeah, once the
FMV is like the centerpiece of the storytelling.

1872
01:51:02.079 --> 01:51:06.479
I don't know. I remember the
Twisted Metal reboot on PS three tried

1873
01:51:06.520 --> 01:51:10.479
to do like all FMB cut scenes
and kind of kitchen stuff and it just

1874
01:51:10.479 --> 01:51:15.640
didn't work at all. Yeah,
Yeah, we shall see next year.

1875
01:51:15.920 --> 01:51:25.479
Was that Gunman twisted Pixel gun string
Stringer FMV? Wasn't there a Yeah?

1876
01:51:25.479 --> 01:51:28.560
There was the dlc add on that
was basically just mad Dogmacree. Yeah,

1877
01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:32.560
the Wavy two ban, that's what
I'm thinking. Yes, FMV has like

1878
01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:36.680
who would have thought it has a
place in twenty fifteen in video games?

1879
01:51:36.880 --> 01:51:43.479
M. Yeah, it certainly does. Yes, it's Quantic Dream working on

1880
01:51:43.600 --> 01:51:47.399
now. I don't think they said
since Beyond came out. Uh. And

1881
01:51:47.399 --> 01:51:51.119
then Square Nix is running some weird
ass Twitch stream for the next two days

1882
01:51:51.840 --> 01:51:57.640
where they are purporting to announce something
eventually. I guess I don't know any

1883
01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:01.119
ideas. It's probably as X right. Well, I I you showed me

1884
01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:04.520
like the weird static E video feed
that they put on vine or whatever.

1885
01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:08.319
Yeah, I just figured that it
was Kanda Lynch three and this time they're

1886
01:52:08.319 --> 01:52:13.680
taking the video effects to like new
levels. Certainly effects certainly a possibility.

1887
01:52:14.119 --> 01:52:17.279
Is there any gold not thought I
saw? Yeah, it was like a

1888
01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:20.560
lot of black and gold. Yeah. I think a sequel to Dax they

1889
01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:24.920
have to come up with. It's
going to be orange and like a Bluish

1890
01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:31.479
brand departure Huge department. Yeah.
Uh. Final Fantasy seven remastered on phones.

1891
01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:38.800
It could happen the Twitch. The
twitch channel name was Can't Kill Progress

1892
01:52:39.159 --> 01:52:43.840
M, which sure, you know
that sounds like some future, kind of

1893
01:52:43.880 --> 01:52:48.520
your kind of dystopian like cyberpunk like
transhuman future. That sounds like a slogan

1894
01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:50.680
from that shure. And I feel
like they, I mean, they've said

1895
01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:54.239
as much about like, you know, I feel like I went to some

1896
01:52:54.279 --> 01:52:56.880
meeting that was like, we're gonna
talk about the future of X. Yeah,

1897
01:52:56.880 --> 01:53:00.319
obviously that last game was didn't but
of course they're gonna make another one

1898
01:53:00.319 --> 01:53:04.319
of those. Yeah. Uh uh. I think I want to say Wednesday

1899
01:53:04.479 --> 01:53:09.119
seems to be what they're targeting for
the actual announcement right now. It's just

1900
01:53:09.159 --> 01:53:13.439
a feed of like a live action
feed of a guy in a room.

1901
01:53:13.439 --> 01:53:17.279
Someone's gonna like lying on the floor, bust into the room and throw that

1902
01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:27.359
guy a gigantic sword and a spiky
hair wig. Uh uh. It seemed

1903
01:53:27.399 --> 01:53:29.720
it almost like I might be wrong, but it almost seemed like there was

1904
01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:31.640
an aspect of like switch Place Pokemon
too, that thing, because they seemed

1905
01:53:31.640 --> 01:53:35.520
to be taking votes from people on
what the guy should do next. It's

1906
01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:41.319
like the thing with Sessler, kind
of I don't know, weird high concept

1907
01:53:41.399 --> 01:53:44.359
marketing stuff. I don't know.
Just tell us what your video game is.

1908
01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:48.319
Tell us Yeah, Like, if
it's a Day Sex sequel, then

1909
01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:51.079
like you'd think that enough people would
care about that on tone that you don't

1910
01:53:51.079 --> 01:53:55.359
need to do some big splashy thing
like for a new IP or something like

1911
01:53:55.399 --> 01:53:58.279
that. Yeah, maybe you need
like that extra kind of leg up.

1912
01:53:58.319 --> 01:54:00.520
Maybe there's something. How much did
that sell Day Sex? Yeah, well

1913
01:54:00.600 --> 01:54:05.079
enough for them to talk about making
another one. Indeed, Well, we'll

1914
01:54:05.119 --> 01:54:10.039
find out in a few short hours, I guess. Alright. Emails pomdcast

1915
01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:13.319
a giant bomb dot com. Yeah, emails, it's getting some emails here.

1916
01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:16.039
Really, it's my favorite part of
the show, is it? Is

1917
01:54:16.039 --> 01:54:20.239
it? Really? Yeah? In
the course of looking up the press release

1918
01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:25.520
for the Nintoo direct I realized that
I've been getting their download report for the

1919
01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:30.880
last I don't know years. Are
you still getting that thing? Have you

1920
01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:34.119
kept up on it? I read
it every so often, and I wish

1921
01:54:34.159 --> 01:54:40.079
that it was written worse. Okay, I guess I thought I had been

1922
01:54:40.079 --> 01:54:41.960
taking off that mailing list, and
I, just like I said, we

1923
01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:44.880
discovered it. I started looking at
those things and I was like, should

1924
01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:50.239
we should we? I don't know, they don't they don't write. Look,

1925
01:54:50.920 --> 01:54:58.239
the quality of the writing about whoever
writes the descriptions of downloadable games on

1926
01:54:58.319 --> 01:55:01.800
Nintendo services like speaks English as the
first language, like that. It's there's

1927
01:55:01.840 --> 01:55:05.279
stuff in there that like, Okay, the writing is actually like totally serviceable,

1928
01:55:06.039 --> 01:55:12.079
and that kind of that kind of
thinking sort of sort of defeats Yes,

1929
01:55:12.560 --> 01:55:14.439
what what we were going with.
Yeah, that's why I didn't even

1930
01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:15.359
bring it up earlier. I looked
at that stuff and I was like,

1931
01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:18.039
this is two middle of the road. Yeah, this is not going to

1932
01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:21.159
do it. Yeah, I mean
you could, you could inflect and inject

1933
01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:24.439
a bunch of shit into it.
Like at the end of the day,

1934
01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:28.760
Like the writing is fine, and
it's not fucking total lunacy, and it's

1935
01:55:28.800 --> 01:55:32.199
not like someone had to write a
paragraph about a fucking notebook for your DS.

1936
01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:42.279
Yeah, fucking farming massage simulators.
And why was it carbon? My

1937
01:55:42.399 --> 01:55:45.319
notebook? Carbon note book? Carbon? Because they did different colors, right?

1938
01:55:45.720 --> 01:55:48.239
Was that just their stand in for
black? I guess okay, because

1939
01:55:48.239 --> 01:55:51.119
it made me think of like some
kind of space age carbon fiber notebooks or

1940
01:55:51.920 --> 01:55:58.159
fucking indestructible space age notebook. Yeah, totally space age polymers go into papers

1941
01:55:58.199 --> 01:56:03.560
made out of carbon nanotubes. Weird. This email comes from Stephen Kevlar.

1942
01:56:04.039 --> 01:56:11.439
Yes, yeah, I mean I
did. At some point Nintendo got it

1943
01:56:11.479 --> 01:56:14.279
into their head that they probably need
to take all their downloadable stuff a little

1944
01:56:14.279 --> 01:56:17.399
more seriously, and the quality of
the games is generally a little bit higher,

1945
01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:23.439
you know, Meme Run notwithstanding,
Well, that's gone right, Yeah,

1946
01:56:23.439 --> 01:56:26.800
I know that's that's the real tragedy. What's happened there? I actually

1947
01:56:26.880 --> 01:56:29.520
I meant to go, like,
look at that guy's Twitter again to see

1948
01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:30.840
if he ever said, yeah,
I got pulled down? Can we stole

1949
01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:34.680
all the assets? Turns out just
patching out the Call of Duty game a

1950
01:56:34.720 --> 01:56:39.079
gun wasn't It wasn't enough. Somebody
else, one of the other asset owners

1951
01:56:39.159 --> 01:56:44.159
noticed pretty much all of something awful, hates us for stealing their stuff.

1952
01:56:44.199 --> 01:56:49.399
So all right. Email from Stephen
about dev hate mail. Hey, guys

1953
01:56:49.399 --> 01:56:51.439
have been following the site for about
a year, and I've noticed that you

1954
01:56:51.479 --> 01:56:57.279
guys can be pretty critical and sometimes
harsh when discussing some controversial release. I

1955
01:56:57.359 --> 01:57:00.600
appreciate and enjoy these discussions, but
I thought crossed my mind end recently.

1956
01:57:00.640 --> 01:57:03.840
I wonder if they've received any hate
mail from anonymous dev's defending their game if

1957
01:57:03.880 --> 01:57:08.119
not, Have you guys ever had
any unpleasant encounters the developer to show,

1958
01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:11.680
like E three your packs? Any
stories would be nice, all anonymous if

1959
01:57:11.720 --> 01:57:15.960
necessary, Yeah, sure, yeah. I mean generally the process is that

1960
01:57:16.279 --> 01:57:20.359
a developer gets super fucking pissed,
but directs all of that rage at the

1961
01:57:20.439 --> 01:57:25.520
public relations people at their company,
as if somehow it's a PR person's job

1962
01:57:26.119 --> 01:57:29.000
at their own their own Oh yeah, you hear about that constantly. And

1963
01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:30.680
then that PR person calls you and
goes, we think the reviews wrong,

1964
01:57:30.680 --> 01:57:32.560
and you go okay, and that's
the end of it, because like,

1965
01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:35.159
what are you gonna you know,
It's like I bet you do. And

1966
01:57:34.920 --> 01:57:38.680
my impression is a lot of the
times that they make those phone calls,

1967
01:57:38.680 --> 01:57:41.760
though they're strictly perfunctory, it's just
like I have to do this. It's

1968
01:57:41.800 --> 01:57:44.399
my job. I have to make
this, have to be able to tell

1969
01:57:44.439 --> 01:57:46.079
them that I called you, right
like they know, they know damn well

1970
01:57:46.119 --> 01:57:48.640
that you're not going to do a
thing. Yeah, but they have to

1971
01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:53.640
try. Yeah, I hate you
so much. I see. Yeah,

1972
01:57:54.520 --> 01:57:57.399
heard about that stuff a lot more
in the game spot days for us at

1973
01:57:57.439 --> 01:58:00.279
least. Yeah, post game Spot, I don't know what it was someone

1974
01:58:00.439 --> 01:58:05.000
I feel like we've gotten exactly one
or I can think of exactly one thing

1975
01:58:05.119 --> 01:58:12.199
that I've gotten about a review score, and it was one of the soul

1976
01:58:12.279 --> 01:58:15.920
caliber games. But uh where it
was just like, what do you think

1977
01:58:15.920 --> 01:58:20.159
it should be higher? I was
like, okay, I mean the response

1978
01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:24.520
on that end is always like if
you have a if you have a you

1979
01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:27.880
know problems, if you think it
is factually incorrect, if if there are

1980
01:58:27.880 --> 01:58:30.880
problems with the facts of this review, then let's talk. If you're gonna

1981
01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:33.720
say you think the game is better
than I, then I did, or

1982
01:58:33.800 --> 01:58:36.600
or that the reviewer did, then
like this is a meaningless conversation. I

1983
01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:41.000
had that a couple of times a
Game Informer, a Ride review. These

1984
01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:44.720
are both indie games, and like
the creator of the game that I would

1985
01:58:44.720 --> 01:58:45.960
give a low score two would be
like what the fuck? Like this game

1986
01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:48.359
is so much better than the score
you gave it, and like it wasn't

1987
01:58:48.359 --> 01:58:51.840
about like you a factual it's like
better. You want to write back and

1988
01:58:51.880 --> 01:58:55.840
say you have spent like multiple years
working on this and are maybe a little

1989
01:58:55.880 --> 01:58:59.880
too close to it to say that
as someone who just played it and didn't

1990
01:59:00.079 --> 01:59:01.439
really like it, Like I kind
of have the right to say I didn't

1991
01:59:01.479 --> 01:59:05.199
like it. That's kind of my
job. Yeah yeah, I mean so

1992
01:59:05.439 --> 01:59:09.520
it game Spot we had a large
enough staff to where I mean myself,

1993
01:59:09.560 --> 01:59:13.479
like as the head of reviews,
would take all those calls for any review

1994
01:59:13.920 --> 01:59:16.239
except for reviews that I had written, and then like you know, Alex

1995
01:59:16.279 --> 01:59:18.720
would take them or Greg or you
know, we'd like we'd have you know,

1996
01:59:18.800 --> 01:59:23.239
so that it it because they would
potentially make it personal if you feel

1997
01:59:23.239 --> 01:59:26.159
like you are under a personal attack
by someone. So we've kind of set

1998
01:59:26.239 --> 01:59:28.800
up that to have that layer there. But like we don't have enough people

1999
01:59:28.840 --> 01:59:32.199
for that. I guess no one
does. But also like that stuff just

2000
01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:36.119
doesn't happen the way it used to. Like people were always fucking trying to

2001
01:59:36.119 --> 01:59:39.840
crawl down our throats about GameSpot reviews
like they thought they were going to get

2002
01:59:39.840 --> 01:59:42.159
somewhere with it, and it was
like, okay, I mean if you

2003
01:59:42.159 --> 01:59:44.520
think that there are real and occasionally, I mean, you know, like

2004
01:59:44.560 --> 01:59:46.239
people are human, Like occasionally there'd
be like mistakes like oh wait, the

2005
01:59:46.279 --> 01:59:51.520
game totally does have a voice chat. You just somehow missed this thing,

2006
01:59:54.840 --> 01:59:56.960
and you know you'd have to make
retractions. You have to make it right

2007
01:59:57.039 --> 01:59:59.720
and can try to move on and
try to do better next time. But

2008
02:00:00.399 --> 02:00:04.079
I've seen it happened more with PR
people, where it's like PR people mad

2009
02:00:04.119 --> 02:00:08.000
that they didn't agree with the score
you gave and again not a factual error

2010
02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:09.760
whatever, but it's like, oh
my god, I can't believe you didn't.

2011
02:00:09.760 --> 02:00:12.159
Well, it's like usually that they're
the ones coming there, because they're

2012
02:00:12.159 --> 02:00:14.399
the ones that have your phone number, they're the ones coming to you,

2013
02:00:14.399 --> 02:00:16.640
you know, like it's it's on
behalf of some developer somewhere who's pisted off.

2014
02:00:16.640 --> 02:00:18.840
I mean, it's right there in
the job title public relations, right,

2015
02:00:19.039 --> 02:00:24.560
they are there to be the liaison
between game makers and you. Yeah,

2016
02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:28.000
but you know, I got a
big, long letter from a developer

2017
02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:32.199
once after like the head of it
was a large studio game, and dude

2018
02:00:32.239 --> 02:00:38.600
was not happy. I remember that, Yeah, and he was It was

2019
02:00:38.880 --> 02:00:40.720
like, you know, you're taking
food off my table and all like all

2020
02:00:40.720 --> 02:00:44.800
this sort of stuff, and just
like I just don't think it's a particularly

2021
02:00:44.840 --> 02:00:48.000
good game. That's kind of the
long and the short of it. And

2022
02:00:48.039 --> 02:00:50.119
then there's that weird thing of like
you know, like whatever, I'm a

2023
02:00:50.359 --> 02:00:54.239
I'm a big boy, if like
someone wants to fucking do that, fine,

2024
02:00:54.479 --> 02:00:58.159
But then when the public relations people
from that company get wind that their

2025
02:00:58.199 --> 02:01:01.239
people have contacted you directly, they
fucking flip out. You're like, I'm

2026
02:01:01.279 --> 02:01:04.359
so sorry, like these this end
around the pull line. It's like,

2027
02:01:04.720 --> 02:01:09.840
yes's I mean, okay, it's
fine, Like it's not like you're hurting

2028
02:01:09.920 --> 02:01:12.880
you know whatever. Like we approach
games on their own, it's like,

2029
02:01:12.880 --> 02:01:16.479
oh, well that guy contacted me, so obviously every game that publisher makes

2030
02:01:16.520 --> 02:01:19.720
his ship. Now it's like whatever, and there's just no conversation to be

2031
02:01:19.840 --> 02:01:23.680
had. I mean, those mail
chains just die because it's like, yeah,

2032
02:01:23.800 --> 02:01:26.960
sorry that I didn't like your game
more like well again, it's basically

2033
02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:30.079
just a due diligious thing of the
pr people being able to tell their bosses

2034
02:01:30.159 --> 02:01:31.960
like yeah we tried, We told
them yeah a lot of times. It's

2035
02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:34.720
definitely that and and you know you
say, okay, thank you for your

2036
02:01:34.720 --> 02:01:38.439
concern, we will we will look
into it. And then that's kind of

2037
02:01:38.479 --> 02:01:41.520
that you look into it, go
hey, that game or you really don't

2038
02:01:41.520 --> 02:01:43.479
like it, right, like yep, like okay, we looked into it.

2039
02:01:43.520 --> 02:01:46.159
You know, there's like there's nothing
else to say, like and then

2040
02:01:46.199 --> 02:01:49.039
sometimes people will persist. You know. I've definitely had people go like,

2041
02:01:49.079 --> 02:01:54.760
so what do you know you do
anything about don't like we've investigated the situation

2042
02:01:54.840 --> 02:01:59.000
and stand by the review. If
that's not good enough for you, I

2043
02:01:59.000 --> 02:02:00.680
don't you know, I don't know
what to tell you at that point.

2044
02:02:00.800 --> 02:02:02.880
There's no do you want to not
work with us in the future, like

2045
02:02:02.960 --> 02:02:04.800
whatever, Like, you know,
do what you need to do. But

2046
02:02:05.479 --> 02:02:10.319
but we have done, We've looked
into it. Some publishers have more of

2047
02:02:10.319 --> 02:02:13.199
a track record with that than others. Sure, yeah, but that's I

2048
02:02:13.199 --> 02:02:15.119
don't know for me, like that
that stuff is all ancient history like that

2049
02:02:15.119 --> 02:02:19.640
that barely ever happened of a different
time. Totally totally at this point.

2050
02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:21.960
But then again, we're just not
reviewing as many games, like it's not

2051
02:02:23.960 --> 02:02:26.399
yeah, but I think like the
game has changed a lot of cases too.

2052
02:02:26.439 --> 02:02:28.760
Look, you know, it's like
even the sites that are still reviewing

2053
02:02:28.800 --> 02:02:30.920
games, like are they as relevant
as they used to be, you know,

2054
02:02:30.079 --> 02:02:33.880
compared to other stuff out there,
Like the power of metacritics seems like

2055
02:02:35.119 --> 02:02:41.279
really lessened these days because it's just
not did you ever see publishers not send

2056
02:02:41.319 --> 02:02:45.119
you their next game? Because of
a score you gave to a previous game,

2057
02:02:45.199 --> 02:02:47.159
Yeah, sure, or not send
us a game because they don't think

2058
02:02:47.199 --> 02:02:49.680
that. I mean, that's something
we ran into with like that five stars

2059
02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:55.880
scoring system actually is a direct relation
to Metacritic. Like there was a while

2060
02:02:55.920 --> 02:03:00.760
there that EA was set up in
such a way that they needed their games

2061
02:03:00.800 --> 02:03:04.760
to be rated eighty five or higher. We only have one score that goes

2062
02:03:04.840 --> 02:03:09.960
above eighty five, and it's five
stars when you once you translated out to

2063
02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:15.720
Metacritic. So they had set up
a system by which the PR people and

2064
02:03:15.800 --> 02:03:20.279
some of the other like they were
incentivized to not send us games unless they

2065
02:03:20.319 --> 02:03:25.680
were really certain it was going to
get five stars. So anything that that

2066
02:03:25.720 --> 02:03:28.359
they had had personal doubts about,
they'd be like, well, we're just

2067
02:03:28.359 --> 02:03:31.600
not going to send it, and
and that would happen. But in terms

2068
02:03:31.640 --> 02:03:34.640
of just like yeah, like backlash
from a previous game not sending the next

2069
02:03:34.680 --> 02:03:40.840
one. You know, most publishers
there's such a long delay between them shipping

2070
02:03:40.880 --> 02:03:44.439
games that by the time the next
game comes out, it's a totally different

2071
02:03:44.479 --> 02:03:47.399
conversation and you're starting fresh, Like
it's not it rarely, if ever,

2072
02:03:48.840 --> 02:03:53.479
like who knows if you're gonna get
the same reviewer exactly. Yeah, yeah,

2073
02:03:53.479 --> 02:03:55.520
there were there were a lot of
cooler there were a lot of more

2074
02:03:55.560 --> 02:03:58.239
peripheral ways for them to exact their
vengeance. You know. It's like,

2075
02:03:58.319 --> 02:04:00.439
oh, they didn't get invited to
like some pre event, yeah exactly,

2076
02:04:00.600 --> 02:04:04.159
or you know things that, Hey, you didn't like midnight clubs, so

2077
02:04:04.199 --> 02:04:08.000
IGN got the exclusive on the next
GTA, or you know, whatever the

2078
02:04:08.039 --> 02:04:11.079
fuck it is. You know it
was. It was pretty trivial stuff for

2079
02:04:11.079 --> 02:04:14.680
the most part. Yeah. Or
they're just rude to you at events.

2080
02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:18.920
Yeah, sure, occasionally get stuff
like that, you know whatever. Everyone's

2081
02:04:18.960 --> 02:04:24.359
generally pretty civil. Ye. All
that stuff feels like ancient history. Yeah,

2082
02:04:24.359 --> 02:04:29.439
it really does, and it will
continue to be more so. Alistair

2083
02:04:30.640 --> 02:04:39.039
from Newcastle presumes that Jeff loves Disorderlies, but let's explore seeing as Jeff loves

2084
02:04:39.079 --> 02:04:42.079
both wrestling and rap music. I
was wondering what his opinion is on the

2085
02:04:42.159 --> 02:04:45.560
hip hop group the Fat Boys,
and they're terrible film Disorderlies. It's a

2086
02:04:45.560 --> 02:04:47.119
pretty terrible film. For those who
don't know, The Fat Boys were an

2087
02:04:47.159 --> 02:04:50.680
eighties rap group who, not unlike
wrestlers, had a gimmick that don't know

2088
02:04:50.880 --> 02:04:54.640
come on, I know, but
I have to read the email. I

2089
02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:59.680
agree it's absurd. The gimmick was
that they were three obese men obsessed with

2090
02:04:59.720 --> 02:05:02.600
food. They were actually decent rappers, but never reached greatness due to their

2091
02:05:02.640 --> 02:05:06.760
reliance on their comedy stick. I've
loved the Fat Boys for many years,

2092
02:05:06.760 --> 02:05:11.039
but only recently did I see the
masterpiece that is Disorderlies, one of the

2093
02:05:11.079 --> 02:05:15.560
best slash worst films ever made.
I'm hoping Jeff has seen this travesty,

2094
02:05:15.600 --> 02:05:17.520
and I'd love to hear his opinion
on it. PS. Thanks for turning

2095
02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:20.600
me onto the substitute, Isn't it
is now genuinely one of my favorite films?

2096
02:05:20.680 --> 02:05:26.199
Yeah, it's great. Are we
talking pH and Z Fat Boys?

2097
02:05:26.880 --> 02:05:34.680
No? Okay, this is before
yes, before the Disco Three. I

2098
02:05:34.720 --> 02:05:38.560
believe they were also referred to before
they realized, why don't we just call

2099
02:05:38.560 --> 02:05:42.359
ourselves the fat boys? What's up
with Disorderlies? It's like it's a movie

2100
02:05:42.359 --> 02:05:45.159
where the fat boys are orderlies at
a hospital. It's a railer hospital,

2101
02:05:45.199 --> 02:05:47.439
a mental hospital. I think it's
just a regular hospital. It's been a

2102
02:05:47.479 --> 02:05:49.560
long time since I've seen it.
All right, did that come out in

2103
02:05:49.600 --> 02:05:54.000
there? Heyday? Sure? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know, like

2104
02:05:54.039 --> 02:05:57.520
they had novelty hits, you know, like they did wipe Out. They

2105
02:05:57.560 --> 02:06:00.479
did a rap version of the song
wipe Yes, I remember that, and

2106
02:06:00.520 --> 02:06:04.159
then they did like they got Chubby
Checker and did the twist but wrapped,

2107
02:06:05.239 --> 02:06:09.039
you know, like those were kind
of the two Fat Boys songs that I

2108
02:06:09.039 --> 02:06:12.399
think broke through in a lot of
ways crossover appeal. I'm a fan of

2109
02:06:12.439 --> 02:06:16.359
All you Can Eat. Yeah,
okay, when it comes to songs by

2110
02:06:16.399 --> 02:06:19.840
the Fat Boys, all right,
and the movie's terrible, Oh yeah,

2111
02:06:19.880 --> 02:06:26.000
it's like not even it's it's pretty
fun. I can't recommend, like I'm

2112
02:06:26.039 --> 02:06:28.279
gonna go back and watch this because
it's hilarious, Like I can't. It's

2113
02:06:28.359 --> 02:06:30.119
it's been too long. I can't
say for sure, but I bet it

2114
02:06:30.159 --> 02:06:36.520
would be a bad times compared to
Big Money Restless, it's better. Okay,

2115
02:06:36.479 --> 02:06:39.840
Yeah, I don't think it would
be hard because I think I think

2116
02:06:39.840 --> 02:06:45.000
that's that's probably pretty safe bet barely
remembering anything about both films, I think

2117
02:06:45.000 --> 02:06:47.279
it's pretty safe to say I still
haven't made it more than about ten minutes

2118
02:06:47.319 --> 02:06:53.199
into The Fat Boys are in a
steaming pile of shit. Crush Groove awesome,

2119
02:06:53.279 --> 02:06:56.479
really. Yeah, all right,
they're good in that. There you

2120
02:06:56.520 --> 02:07:00.720
have it. Everyone's good in that. Yeah, hopefully that satisfies Alistair's curiosity.

2121
02:07:01.920 --> 02:07:06.159
You would not believe, Oh you
probably would. The number of emails

2122
02:07:06.159 --> 02:07:14.800
we got about redbox theft this week. Jeez, rampant is it? Yeah?

2123
02:07:15.520 --> 02:07:17.239
A lot more people who are familiar
with this process than I would have

2124
02:07:17.279 --> 02:07:23.279
thought, especially willing to send in
an email indicating as such. I see,

2125
02:07:24.439 --> 02:07:28.319
here's one that starts please don't say
my name. I would buy a

2126
02:07:28.399 --> 02:07:30.960
Visa gift card. It was about
twenty to twenty five dollars. After you

2127
02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:33.039
get the cards set up. I
would rent a game or movie through the

2128
02:07:33.079 --> 02:07:36.279
website and go pick it up.
But instead of putting a paper copy,

2129
02:07:36.319 --> 02:07:40.439
I would get a razor blade and
shave the barcode sticker off and put it

2130
02:07:40.479 --> 02:07:43.800
on a disc I didn't need,
like a PS two copy of Midnight Club

2131
02:07:43.920 --> 02:07:47.319
too. I like how specific he
is there. At least I didn't give

2132
02:07:47.359 --> 02:07:50.000
them nothing. They got what they
paid for. I feel bad I did

2133
02:07:50.039 --> 02:07:57.039
it anyway. You should Yeah that
sucks. Yeah, yes, it is

2134
02:07:57.039 --> 02:08:00.479
a bummer, to the extent that
I almost feel like I should be reading

2135
02:08:00.479 --> 02:08:03.880
these. But it's still kind of
a ridiculous phenomenon. Well, it's weird

2136
02:08:03.920 --> 02:08:07.600
that like that, you know that
they haven't we found a way to counteract

2137
02:08:07.600 --> 02:08:11.600
it. Yeah, yeah, seriously, Uh like that seems like that's solved

2138
02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:15.000
by like, hey, what if
we put a Blu Ray reader in all

2139
02:08:15.039 --> 02:08:18.319
these kiosks so that it spins up
the disk, gets an idea of it,

2140
02:08:18.359 --> 02:08:22.720
and then knows what it is.
That would be sensible, which I

2141
02:08:22.760 --> 02:08:28.159
bet is actually super expensive to retrofit
all those kiosks with those, So maybe

2142
02:08:28.199 --> 02:08:31.000
it's just worth it for them to
eat the loss on it, Yeah,

2143
02:08:31.119 --> 02:08:37.279
as opposed to upgrading every single Kiosks
they have out there. Maybe, or

2144
02:08:37.319 --> 02:08:41.119
maybe that's not a long term viable
business model. Who knows, I'll read.

2145
02:08:41.199 --> 02:08:43.359
I mean, it's the physical media
business, you know, it's yea

2146
02:08:43.399 --> 02:08:48.960
sure at some point, at some
point you're specifically doing this for people that

2147
02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:54.399
don't have fast enough internet to stream
a movie, you know, like the

2148
02:08:54.399 --> 02:08:58.439
game stuff. I think is different
because games are more expensive. I don't

2149
02:08:58.439 --> 02:09:01.479
know. I mean, I've still
got a Netflix disc account, Like,

2150
02:09:01.039 --> 02:09:03.520
you know, there's still nothing streaming
that looks quite as good as a Blu

2151
02:09:03.640 --> 02:09:07.920
Ray. Yeah, like the quality
gap is closing, but still the best

2152
02:09:07.960 --> 02:09:11.079
looking movie you can watch in your
house. Still a lot of stuff that

2153
02:09:11.119 --> 02:09:16.640
you know, like one iTunes rental
is almost the cost of the entire like

2154
02:09:16.720 --> 02:09:20.279
disc account for the month. You
know, sure there is you know there

2155
02:09:20.319 --> 02:09:22.399
is a value proposes and you use
it. You are always getting discs and

2156
02:09:22.439 --> 02:09:24.640
returning them and some times, Yeah, I was gonna say, if you

2157
02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:28.439
just like sat on the same disc
for like months at a time, Yeah,

2158
02:09:28.520 --> 02:09:33.359
a couple of times. Stupid.
That is why I canceled. Yeah,

2159
02:09:33.560 --> 02:09:35.680
Netflix discs stuff. And then once
I realized I wasn't watching the streaming

2160
02:09:35.680 --> 02:09:37.640
stuff either, I can't say that
too. But when you use it as

2161
02:09:37.640 --> 02:09:41.000
intended, it's still a pretty good
deal. I'll read a quick excerpt from

2162
02:09:41.159 --> 02:09:45.600
another email, although there were quite
a few uh. It turns out that

2163
02:09:45.680 --> 02:09:48.039
red Box takes Visa and MasterCard gift
cards, which means there's no paper trail

2164
02:09:48.079 --> 02:09:50.920
once they find out the previous consumers
stole the disc out of the box.

2165
02:09:52.840 --> 02:09:56.279
This part seems crazy, but you
can literally have five cents left on the

2166
02:09:56.279 --> 02:09:58.800
gift card, rent any game and
walk out with a free game, which

2167
02:10:00.399 --> 02:10:03.279
it seems crazy to me that they
wouldn't put a hold on the card for

2168
02:10:03.319 --> 02:10:05.880
at least the value of the rental. Oh, because they don't charge you

2169
02:10:05.960 --> 02:10:11.199
until after right O? Man like
if not, if not the actual value

2170
02:10:11.199 --> 02:10:13.520
of the game, at least how
much they had to fund the card.

2171
02:10:13.560 --> 02:10:16.039
But I guess actually you can just
pay cash at a seven to eleven or

2172
02:10:16.079 --> 02:10:18.319
something, right and right. Obviously
once you use it, they're gonna blacklist

2173
02:10:18.319 --> 02:10:24.680
the card. Sure, but you
probably don't care because you're thieving. I

2174
02:10:24.720 --> 02:10:28.960
don't know, it's a weird phenomenon. Don't do that. Don't do this

2175
02:10:30.000 --> 02:10:33.800
thing that we just told you exactly
how to do. Apparently it's too late

2176
02:10:33.840 --> 02:10:37.359
now it's out there or whatever.
How hard would it be to figure that

2177
02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:43.960
out? Uh? Twenty fifteen The
Year of the Hunt asks Josh and Grand

2178
02:10:43.039 --> 02:10:52.920
Rapids, Monster Hunter four Blood Born
Toki didn't Kiwami which or three Wild Hunt

2179
02:10:52.079 --> 02:10:56.800
evolve. It seems like there are
a bunch of games out we're coming out

2180
02:10:56.840 --> 02:10:58.720
this year that deal with the concept
of hunting or the hunt? Am I

2181
02:10:58.720 --> 02:11:05.520
miss? Any? Is this the
new Year of the bow Man? It's

2182
02:11:05.600 --> 02:11:11.520
really just firing the imagination over there, isn't it. I don't Yeah,

2183
02:11:11.560 --> 02:11:13.319
there's a lot of games with hunting
and the Witcher looks really good. Yes,

2184
02:11:13.960 --> 02:11:16.039
but I forgot about the whole hunting
aspect of it. If there's a

2185
02:11:16.079 --> 02:11:18.239
lot of that in there, that
might make me, that might sour me

2186
02:11:18.319 --> 02:11:22.840
on it. I was watching that
foot My understanding is no, no metal

2187
02:11:22.840 --> 02:11:26.199
gear, Solid three, shut up, get the trash out of here,

2188
02:11:26.239 --> 02:11:31.079
red dead, Redemption far cry m
oh yeah, great hunt came out last

2189
02:11:31.159 --> 02:11:33.199
year. Uh yeah, I don't
know. I guess I could see us

2190
02:11:33.239 --> 02:11:37.000
making some kind of pithy game of
the Year joke around the concept of the

2191
02:11:37.119 --> 02:11:39.159
hunt too really in the year to
Yeah, I can't say for sure.

2192
02:11:39.720 --> 02:11:43.319
My understanding of the wild of wild
like the concept of the wild hunt and

2193
02:11:43.479 --> 02:11:48.359
would win anyway? Yeah, of
course. Uh is the wild Hunt is

2194
02:11:48.359 --> 02:11:50.960
a group. It's like a hunting
party. Yeah. That's out there doing

2195
02:11:52.600 --> 02:11:56.000
some kind of shit. They're hunting
the most dangerous game. I don't know

2196
02:11:56.039 --> 02:12:01.840
what they're doing witchers maybe, Yeah, you are the most interesting. Uh

2197
02:12:01.920 --> 02:12:03.560
yeah, we'll revisitech topic at the
end of the year. I suppose,

2198
02:12:07.000 --> 02:12:11.520
Dan, Yes, you're quiet during
emails. I am throw you throw you

2199
02:12:11.520 --> 02:12:16.239
an underhand lab here. All right, Corey from Dallas has tender problems,

2200
02:12:16.439 --> 02:12:20.079
Dan, I heard that you use
tender what's your go to opening line when

2201
02:12:20.119 --> 02:12:24.560
you get a match asking for a
friend? First of all, tender ain't

2202
02:12:24.600 --> 02:12:28.119
great tender at all? Why not
because it's very surface level. It's very

2203
02:12:28.199 --> 02:12:31.119
much it might as well be like
a hot or not thing where it's like

2204
02:12:31.119 --> 02:12:33.800
that you're attractive, you're not bad. The thing I like, but okay,

2205
02:12:33.800 --> 02:12:35.960
Cupid is you get a good sense
of someone's personality before you even start

2206
02:12:35.960 --> 02:12:39.760
talking to them. You can kind
of figure out deal breaker type things.

2207
02:12:39.880 --> 02:12:43.079
Are you are you browsing profiles?
Are you just letting the algorithms do their

2208
02:12:43.079 --> 02:12:46.479
work and like find people for you? Yeah, I mean you do the

2209
02:12:46.479 --> 02:12:48.399
match percentage thing. If you see
that someone's like a ninety six percent match

2210
02:12:48.399 --> 02:12:52.680
and a zero percent enemy or something, then it's probably you know, you've

2211
02:12:52.720 --> 02:12:54.640
got some core things in common for
sure. But then you can also read

2212
02:12:54.680 --> 02:12:58.680
the profile and make sure that they're
well spoken, and they seem funny and

2213
02:12:58.680 --> 02:13:01.239
they have you know, similar interest
and things like that. Tender, it's

2214
02:13:01.239 --> 02:13:03.000
just you're going through this fucking gallery
of like Dash, she's hot, Bash,

2215
02:13:03.039 --> 02:13:07.439
she's not mad, and so it's
I've gone on a few tender dates

2216
02:13:07.479 --> 02:13:09.359
and I've just never been super impressed
where it's okay, cue, but you

2217
02:13:09.399 --> 02:13:13.239
can kind of can kind of.
I wasn't aware that Tinder was for going

2218
02:13:13.279 --> 02:13:18.159
on dates, you know what everyone
says. Everyone I know that doesn't use

2219
02:13:18.199 --> 02:13:20.199
Tender says like, oh I heard
that's just like a hook up app.

2220
02:13:20.479 --> 02:13:22.520
But if you're on Tender, you
know that every single profile like they're space

2221
02:13:22.560 --> 02:13:26.119
to write a little like hello or
something, And every single profile I've seen

2222
02:13:26.119 --> 02:13:28.119
on there's like not looking for hookups. So, like, I don't know

2223
02:13:28.119 --> 02:13:31.239
where people get the idea that Tender
is four hookups. Everybody I know who

2224
02:13:31.239 --> 02:13:35.239
actively uses it says it's a lot
more benign than or it's not. It's

2225
02:13:35.239 --> 02:13:39.239
not so fucking crazy. Yeah,
yeah, I mean I've had the app

2226
02:13:39.319 --> 02:13:41.560
for two or three years, and
like I've never seen it as that,

2227
02:13:41.720 --> 02:13:46.239
and I've also I've gone on real
dates with it that we're never that great.

2228
02:13:46.800 --> 02:13:48.319
I like, okay, okay,
I feel I've talked to people that

2229
02:13:48.359 --> 02:13:54.319
are heavy Tender users that have the
act opposite to say, I'm not saying

2230
02:13:54.359 --> 02:13:56.720
I'm not saying there aren't people out
there using it for that. You could

2231
02:13:56.760 --> 02:14:00.239
probably do that pretty easily with that, I'll say. When I was backstage

2232
02:14:00.279 --> 02:14:03.880
at Riff raff riff Raff's guys.
We're using it too fine girls in the

2233
02:14:03.920 --> 02:14:07.359
area to bring backstage. So I
guess you can use it for that if

2234
02:14:07.359 --> 02:14:09.279
you'd like to, But that's just
not how I like. I'm using it

2235
02:14:09.319 --> 02:14:13.760
to find people to hang out backstage
at a rap show. Swipe right,

2236
02:14:15.159 --> 02:14:16.840
yes, come hang out of this
hip hop show like this ridiculous. Yeah,

2237
02:14:16.960 --> 02:14:20.039
I'm not a fan. Actually I
do lead to it, so yep,

2238
02:14:20.640 --> 02:14:22.720
no good Oh but yeah, opening
line. I don't know, there's

2239
02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:24.720
that thing you don't have. There's
not much you can go off. Are

2240
02:14:24.800 --> 02:14:28.439
they charging you now if you're older
than taking you're over thirty, they have

2241
02:14:28.479 --> 02:14:33.560
like some tender premium thing. They've
got a couple of features, like you

2242
02:14:33.560 --> 02:14:37.359
can use it I think for free. Still, what's the rationale the route

2243
02:14:37.359 --> 02:14:41.760
they want to filter on their service
to keep creepy old guys off? I

2244
02:14:41.800 --> 02:14:45.399
guess yeah, Like at some point
ten was like a real weird cut off

2245
02:14:45.399 --> 02:14:48.840
though yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean there is no good line there.

2246
02:14:48.840 --> 02:14:52.279
It's there's a Louis ck bit about
that. Like VC girl at a

2247
02:14:52.279 --> 02:14:54.640
bar, there's only one honest thing
you can say when you go up to

2248
02:14:54.720 --> 02:14:56.560
them, and like it's this very
surface level. Where's okay? Q,

2249
02:14:56.640 --> 02:14:58.319
But you can get more of a
sense at them as a person everything,

2250
02:14:58.359 --> 02:15:03.199
whether you'd get along whatever, So
yeah, fuck under all right, Dan

2251
02:15:03.279 --> 02:15:07.520
has spoken. Still not married yet
though, so apparently okay, Cupid ain't

2252
02:15:07.560 --> 02:15:15.119
working that. Mhm, stay tuned. I guess you Dan's mom. Damn,

2253
02:15:15.319 --> 02:15:16.600
we're gonna get some kids around this
office. Yeah, come on,

2254
02:15:18.319 --> 02:15:22.239
Mario parties are stacking up. We
got fucking outsource. All right, I'll

2255
02:15:22.239 --> 02:15:26.079
have four babies real quick, alright, get on it. So the demographic

2256
02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:28.479
for Mario Party, yes, why
why would you want to warp young minds

2257
02:15:28.479 --> 02:15:31.000
in such a way because they're not
mine? I don't care. Yes,

2258
02:15:31.119 --> 02:15:35.800
I'd have kids making somebody else's problem. Yeah, just young kids playing Mario

2259
02:15:35.880 --> 02:15:37.119
Party. It's like you might as
well just fucking throw them in the jail

2260
02:15:37.159 --> 02:15:43.159
cell right now. Yep, raised
on Mario Party. Next thing you know,

2261
02:15:45.079 --> 02:15:50.800
they're taking thirty two hundreds off somebody
to gas station. Ain't it always

2262
02:15:50.840 --> 02:15:54.800
the way? Almost? Don't watch
baby's growth to be Mario Party players?

2263
02:15:56.279 --> 02:16:01.199
Ain't that the truth? Jack from
Florida writes in about platonic games. I

2264
02:16:01.199 --> 02:16:03.920
don't know if you guys have heard
of that outfit. Yeah, they're doing

2265
02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:07.640
this the x rare thing right.
Yeah. So yeah, that's the gist

2266
02:16:07.680 --> 02:16:11.039
of the email. Hey guys,
you didn't seem to have any coverage or

2267
02:16:11.039 --> 02:16:15.520
news from the eg x rest event
a few weeks ago. Uh yeah,

2268
02:16:15.560 --> 02:16:16.439
I know. Yeah. When I
saw that name, I was like,

2269
02:16:16.680 --> 02:16:20.279
I wonder why, But it's a
British event. But yes, as he

2270
02:16:20.279 --> 02:16:24.680
says, ejx res is the largest
video game event in the UK, far

2271
02:16:24.680 --> 02:16:28.880
and away. The most exciting part
for me was to watch the panel from

2272
02:16:28.920 --> 02:16:33.239
Platonic Games called Rebirth of the three
D Platformer. They're a team made up

2273
02:16:33.280 --> 02:16:35.680
of old rare developers who worked on
games like Banjo Kazooi, Donkey Kong Country

2274
02:16:35.680 --> 02:16:39.479
and Golden Eye att seven. That
genre of games has been dead for a

2275
02:16:39.479 --> 02:16:43.639
long time, and the Platonic guys
spoke with passion and excitement about their first

2276
02:16:43.639 --> 02:16:48.239
game, which will be a spiritual
successor to Banjo Kazooi, called Project at

2277
02:16:48.319 --> 02:16:52.840
Ukulele. With all that being said, I know you guys are borderline hostile

2278
02:16:52.879 --> 02:16:56.799
to three D platform ers, with
Maris four being the exception. Seems a

2279
02:16:56.840 --> 02:17:03.639
little harsh. Well that was the
one good one, but h I'm not

2280
02:17:03.680 --> 02:17:07.120
a big CROC fan gets three D
You not doing anything for you? Not

2281
02:17:07.200 --> 02:17:11.520
really. The Playtonic guys said they
would bring the three D platform er up

2282
02:17:11.559 --> 02:17:16.239
to twenty fifteen standards. Does this
news excite you in any way or could

2283
02:17:16.239 --> 02:17:18.280
you care less? I think they
need to prove it first, you know.

2284
02:17:18.600 --> 02:17:22.959
I think that that bringing the three
D platform er up to twenty fifteen

2285
02:17:24.040 --> 02:17:26.440
standards has a really weird like if
it's just if it's the same type of

2286
02:17:26.440 --> 02:17:31.319
design, but it looks like a
modern game. I don't know that that

2287
02:17:31.559 --> 02:17:35.200
is enough. Yeah, I agree, and I saw that news when it

2288
02:17:35.239 --> 02:17:37.479
came out, But yeah, I
was with you. It's like there's not

2289
02:17:37.559 --> 02:17:39.520
quite enough there. You know.
It's like, yeah, these guys made

2290
02:17:39.559 --> 02:17:43.719
some good old games, but it's
just being they're the good old games guys,

2291
02:17:43.120 --> 02:17:46.040
some good games that are old.
Okay, got it? Uh,

2292
02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:48.760
But yeah, it's just like in
all you've got is a project name and

2293
02:17:48.799 --> 02:17:52.120
some pedigree, like you need to
see old different there's a picture. There's

2294
02:17:52.120 --> 02:17:56.040
a couple of pictures out there,
and there's some big fucking Google eyes in

2295
02:17:56.079 --> 02:18:00.360
these pictures. I have not seen
those pictures. But those games can be

2296
02:18:00.360 --> 02:18:01.040
great. Yeah, you look at
it. And you go like, oh,

2297
02:18:01.079 --> 02:18:03.479
okay, all right, that's that's
type of teaser image that some x

2298
02:18:03.600 --> 02:18:07.360
rare people trying to say, hey, we're the x rare people would would

2299
02:18:07.360 --> 02:18:09.040
put out. Get the impression that
those guys spent a lot of times and

2300
02:18:09.079 --> 02:18:16.200
a lot of time in tiki bars. Maybe, yes, I'm getting a

2301
02:18:16.200 --> 02:18:22.600
certain vibe. Creative director Jimmy Buffett. That's good. Uh ps Mario sixty

2302
02:18:22.639 --> 02:18:28.239
four versus Banjo Kazooi discuss I don't
think there's much to discuss there. Banjo

2303
02:18:28.280 --> 02:18:31.920
Kazoi is a slightly better Donkey Kong
sixty four. Mario sixty four is one

2304
02:18:31.920 --> 02:18:37.239
of the best games ever. All
right, I enjoyed Banjo Kazooi. I

2305
02:18:37.280 --> 02:18:39.639
did not enjoy Donkey Kong sixty four. No, no, no, this

2306
02:18:39.680 --> 02:18:45.840
was Mario sixty four versus Banjo.
Oh what is like? Has technical prowess

2307
02:18:45.879 --> 02:18:50.440
above and beyond. It's a slightly
cleaner, crisper looking game, but Mario

2308
02:18:50.479 --> 02:18:54.239
sixty four is much better designed.
All right, Banjo's highly overrated. It's

2309
02:18:54.280 --> 02:18:58.879
really cool, but it's good,
not great. There you have it.

2310
02:19:00.479 --> 02:19:05.440
Let me tell you a little nuts
and game called Glover. Yeah, okay,

2311
02:19:05.799 --> 02:19:09.159
go ahead, talk to me about
Glover, but just be just know

2312
02:19:09.360 --> 02:19:11.559
that I'm gonna at the end of
this say, now tell me about buck

2313
02:19:11.600 --> 02:19:16.200
Bumble. I don't even know what
that is, all right, it's an

2314
02:19:16.239 --> 02:19:18.760
sixty four platform or that in my
mind at least, might as well just

2315
02:19:18.760 --> 02:19:26.840
be Glover. We should play those
about space station Silicon Valley was gonna say

2316
02:19:26.840 --> 02:19:31.639
that was m design game and they
wouldn't made Grandfaffather. What are you gonna

2317
02:19:31.639 --> 02:19:33.879
say about nuts and Bolts? It's
a fucking awesome game. Is that's the

2318
02:19:35.040 --> 02:19:39.159
That's the best banjo Kazooi game without
it out equivocally. I'm just gonna I

2319
02:19:39.239 --> 02:19:45.280
just I hate to fucking totally do
this, but I have to wait for

2320
02:19:45.280 --> 02:19:48.639
this laptop too quickly connect to the
internet. What's the one that sucker Punch

2321
02:19:48.719 --> 02:19:54.319
did the rocket robot on wheels or
sucker Punch did, yeah, a platform

2322
02:19:54.360 --> 02:20:00.360
around that era wait on wheels for
like Cooper. Yes, it's like and

2323
02:20:00.479 --> 02:20:05.079
it's like four on the N sixty
four. Yeah it was something. Yeah,

2324
02:20:05.200 --> 02:20:07.360
I think it is rocket. I
think your rocket robot and wheels.

2325
02:20:07.360 --> 02:20:09.840
I think you might be right,
But what are you doing over there?

2326
02:20:11.040 --> 02:20:18.079
I'm just keeping us You're you're a
glove. This is the buck Bumble theme

2327
02:20:18.159 --> 02:20:24.719
song. Man, he that box
art. Something tells me I need to

2328
02:20:24.719 --> 02:20:28.239
follow up with mister Bumble. No, so just listen to this or am

2329
02:20:28.239 --> 02:20:30.319
I getting what I need? Right? You're getting everything you need at buck

2330
02:20:30.360 --> 02:20:35.360
Bumble right here, right now.
I don't know, man, I feel

2331
02:20:35.440 --> 02:20:37.120
drawn to this. I need to
see more. Yeah, all right,

2332
02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:39.440
maybe we should at least look at
the game. I don't. I don't

2333
02:20:39.479 --> 02:20:41.840
care what the game looks like.
But if this is playing while I'm playing

2334
02:20:41.879 --> 02:20:50.760
the game, yeah, like fuck
the Donkey Kong rap. Yeah, this

2335
02:20:50.840 --> 02:20:56.000
song says everything about the era and
the location that this game was produced.

2336
02:20:56.000 --> 02:21:01.639
It pretty good. That was exciting. I was trying to find the clip

2337
02:21:01.680 --> 02:21:07.639
of Jim Ross pitching Glover during a
Favor for You because Glover, Yeah,

2338
02:21:07.680 --> 02:21:11.559
it's sponsored, like I don't know, like unforgiven. Yeah, and Jim

2339
02:21:11.639 --> 02:21:15.520
Ross because gotta love the gloves.
He's not wrong. You need to find

2340
02:21:15.559 --> 02:21:18.239
that for me later. Yeah.
Actually, Glover Glover was pretty cool,

2341
02:21:18.280 --> 02:21:22.639
wasn't it? Like? Yeah,
I rented it multiple times from Blockbuster Video

2342
02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:28.680
m HM, three D platforms.
Maybe they still have a place I don't

2343
02:21:30.319 --> 02:21:31.440
I'm not Yeah, I don't know. I'm not convinced, Like, yes,

2344
02:21:31.920 --> 02:21:37.360
we'll see. Yeah, maybe Project
Ukulele will change your mind. I

2345
02:21:37.200 --> 02:21:41.120
anticipate seeing that. Yeah, like
I'll I mentioned to take a look at

2346
02:21:41.120 --> 02:21:46.000
it. But it's one of those
things where it's it's like a nostalgia project

2347
02:21:46.159 --> 02:21:48.159
in a lot of ways. You
know, it's like they're very match like,

2348
02:21:48.239 --> 02:21:52.040
hey, we're the X rayre guys, we're making one of those,

2349
02:21:52.399 --> 02:21:56.520
but modernizing it. Like that's I
don't will this be a kickstarter? I

2350
02:21:56.760 --> 02:22:01.360
don't know. Yeah, let's just
say yeah, is probably I don't know.

2351
02:22:03.719 --> 02:22:07.879
Perhaps it's just one of those like
I don't necessarily want like the developers

2352
02:22:07.920 --> 02:22:09.680
of that era to make a new
one. It'd be nice, like let's

2353
02:22:09.719 --> 02:22:13.840
get totally fresh ideas, like hey, we're bringing back three platformer and we

2354
02:22:13.879 --> 02:22:16.280
never made one before. I don't
care who comes up with the ideas.

2355
02:22:16.319 --> 02:22:16.719
Yeah, I guess, I guess. Yeah, I just want it to

2356
02:22:16.719 --> 02:22:20.600
be an interesting game. I guess
I'm implying that they wouldn't be able to

2357
02:22:20.639 --> 02:22:22.239
come up with new ideas. But
like I feel like on some level,

2358
02:22:22.319 --> 02:22:28.159
by appealing to the fans of those
rare games, like they're trying to make

2359
02:22:28.200 --> 02:22:31.120
another one of those right, yeah, yeah, oh no, no,

2360
02:22:31.159 --> 02:22:35.559
I don't think that that's inarguable.
Yeah, like I really trying to evoke

2361
02:22:35.680 --> 02:22:39.079
that that period and that esthetic and
everything like, that's not That's not top

2362
02:22:39.079 --> 02:22:45.959
of my list of yeah anything.
I've said it before, but I thought

2363
02:22:45.959 --> 02:22:48.120
I Grow Home was like the closest
thing to like, here's here's a three

2364
02:22:48.159 --> 02:22:52.399
D platformer in twenty fifteen that makes
sense, Like, here is an interesting

2365
02:22:52.440 --> 02:22:56.360
new mechanic that we probably couldn't have
done in the past, yeah, for

2366
02:22:56.399 --> 02:22:58.680
technical reasons, and now we can, and like it enables a new type

2367
02:22:58.680 --> 02:23:03.159
of game point that those games did
not have. Let's see earth Through Gym

2368
02:23:03.200 --> 02:23:09.479
for d M. You can eat
cans beans and then you can fart.

2369
02:23:09.760 --> 02:23:13.680
I wish earthrom Gym was still around
and irrelevant. I liked earth Room Gym

2370
02:23:13.719 --> 02:23:16.520
a lot. What do you think
it would have taken for Earthroom Gym to

2371
02:23:16.559 --> 02:23:18.719
still be around and relevant? Because
it was he was relevant for about a

2372
02:23:18.920 --> 02:23:22.319
game. One and two were both
good, well, actually, you know

2373
02:23:22.319 --> 02:23:26.360
what, I take that back.
They were good when I was twelve and

2374
02:23:26.440 --> 02:23:31.200
thirteen when it came out on Xbox
Live Arcade, uh several years ago.

2375
02:23:31.280 --> 02:23:33.120
Yeah, going back, going back
and playing one is pretty rough. They

2376
02:23:33.559 --> 02:23:37.239
great, it's hard. Yeah,
yeah, it is really hard, and

2377
02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:39.239
it's hard to like gauge jumps and
stuff like I can't tell if this is

2378
02:23:39.280 --> 02:23:43.000
in the Bash. So much animation
and stuff that. Yeah, it's like

2379
02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:45.799
they spent so much time individuals like, it looks amazing. Yeah, even

2380
02:23:45.840 --> 02:23:46.799
you compare it to games of that
area, you're like, fuck, man,

2381
02:23:48.040 --> 02:23:50.879
Yeah, it's still looks good.
In the Genesis I got once in

2382
02:23:50.879 --> 02:23:54.159
a while, it looks good and
all that, but it's Room Gym three

2383
02:23:54.239 --> 02:23:58.959
D does not look so great.
No, no, I never played those

2384
02:24:00.040 --> 02:24:05.479
games. I can't join this conversation. I thought too was needless. It

2385
02:24:05.559 --> 02:24:07.000
was one of the things where it's
and the idea that like Earthworm Gym was

2386
02:24:07.040 --> 02:24:11.159
like a character that needed a cartoon, like like the stuff that Earthrom Jim

2387
02:24:11.239 --> 02:24:13.959
got on the basis of that one
game looking good. It was like fucking

2388
02:24:15.079 --> 02:24:18.000
crazy. Yeah, I mean again, it's the time and place thing.

2389
02:24:18.120 --> 02:24:22.920
Yeah, we're talking like what I
was ten and eleven. So it's like

2390
02:24:22.959 --> 02:24:26.840
stuff that, like you know,
like Sonic was getting the cartoon treatment and

2391
02:24:26.840 --> 02:24:31.360
all that other stuff too, and
yeah, but Earthorm Gym was for like

2392
02:24:31.440 --> 02:24:33.319
older, more mature kids because I
had jokes about boogers and stuff in it.

2393
02:24:33.399 --> 02:24:37.799
Yep, yeah, it's going off
for the Boogerman demographic. Dan Castelenetta,

2394
02:24:37.920 --> 02:24:41.520
I believe, voiced both Boogerman and
earthrom Gym earthurm Jim in the show.

2395
02:24:41.559 --> 02:24:46.040
I want to say of the game, the more you know about earthworm

2396
02:24:46.120 --> 02:24:52.319
Gym, the worst off your incorrect. That's what I was gonna say.

2397
02:24:52.120 --> 02:24:58.200
Jackson from Roseberg organ right soon and
says I want my dough to two mm.

2398
02:24:58.239 --> 02:25:01.280
I've come to realiz is that I'm
looking for my equivalent to Brad's Dota

2399
02:25:01.360 --> 02:25:05.639
two, something imminently replayable. I
could ride off into the sunset with.

2400
02:25:05.440 --> 02:25:09.239
Do any of you other guys have
one of these? Am I foolish to

2401
02:25:09.239 --> 02:25:11.920
hope that this game is out there
for me? Is it Dota two?

2402
02:25:13.040 --> 02:25:16.040
Sort of? So? Dan for
the Sega Genesis? Yeah? No,

2403
02:25:16.760 --> 02:25:22.520
Halo multiplayer, M gonna pay that
forever. Yeah, that qualifies one.

2404
02:25:24.120 --> 02:25:28.959
Or just like taken as a collective, I mean, well, just any

2405
02:25:30.239 --> 02:25:33.200
like how about master Chief Collection?
If it worked? Well? It kind

2406
02:25:33.200 --> 02:25:37.959
of works now I get what you're
saying, though, It's like I don't

2407
02:25:37.959 --> 02:25:41.120
have the draw to go play that
every time? Yeah, or every Yeah,

2408
02:25:41.159 --> 02:25:43.559
every time I get a free second. But whenever I sit down and

2409
02:25:43.559 --> 02:25:46.440
play that, I have a good
time. It'll never get old. Yeah,

2410
02:25:48.360 --> 02:25:54.959
it's a tough thing to you should
try eve online boy. I think

2411
02:25:54.959 --> 02:25:56.120
if you get the right crew together, fighting games are really good for that.

2412
02:25:56.280 --> 02:26:00.600
Yeah. I haven't played it in
a while, but still calibers fun

2413
02:26:00.680 --> 02:26:03.399
every single time I play it.
I mean it practically has to be a

2414
02:26:03.479 --> 02:26:07.559
multiplayer thing, yeah, because otherwise, like you're no matter what, you're

2415
02:26:07.600 --> 02:26:09.440
going to exhaust the content and a
single player thing. Yeah, eventually,

2416
02:26:09.719 --> 02:26:16.159
sky unless it's like super duper randomized
Minecraft. Yeah, I guess so,

2417
02:26:18.280 --> 02:26:22.639
But you could build nonsense in Minecraft
forever. Let's be honest. It's Doda

2418
02:26:22.719 --> 02:26:26.159
two. I heard some really good
things about Here Is at the Storm.

2419
02:26:26.319 --> 02:26:28.959
Yeah, apparently all the engineers are
playing it right now. Really, and

2420
02:26:30.959 --> 02:26:35.719
apparently all the like shop garbage is
gone from there. What do you mean,

2421
02:26:35.840 --> 02:26:41.200
all the oh I gotta buy this
weird day? Yeah, right,

2422
02:26:41.280 --> 02:26:43.799
isn't that doesn't that happened? I
thought that was always the case, Like

2423
02:26:43.840 --> 02:26:48.360
they relaunched in like a later phase
of the beta recently. I mean there's

2424
02:26:48.440 --> 02:26:50.520
always been a store in there that
sells skins and stuff. No, no,

2425
02:26:50.520 --> 02:26:54.920
no, like in Match, I
would never buy boots. Oh yeah,

2426
02:26:54.920 --> 02:26:56.760
I never had never had that.
Oh I'm sorry. I thought you

2427
02:26:56.799 --> 02:27:00.520
meant the free to play an actual
store. It seems like they think much

2428
02:27:00.559 --> 02:27:03.319
more a stripped down an excess.
No, no, I mean yeah,

2429
02:27:03.319 --> 02:27:05.639
it's it is someone who liked Fates
Forever at the mobi on the iPad.

2430
02:27:05.879 --> 02:27:09.399
Yeah, which is by it's very
nature, stripped down and easier to play.

2431
02:27:09.719 --> 02:27:13.280
Here's what the Storm sounded intriguing.
It is incredibly stripped down and streamlines

2432
02:27:13.360 --> 02:27:18.719
compared to the other games in the
genre, which probably will get it a

2433
02:27:18.719 --> 02:27:20.120
pretty big audience. I would think
it seems like a lot of people are

2434
02:27:20.200 --> 02:27:24.879
enjoying it. Yeah, so far, it's definitely a much smaller learning curve.

2435
02:27:24.879 --> 02:27:28.000
Uh, John and Toronto, I
like that you are just slightly talking

2436
02:27:28.040 --> 02:27:31.559
a bunch of shit about it.
Yeah, every step of the way.

2437
02:27:31.799 --> 02:27:33.479
Yeah. Now ask me about league. What's up with the league legends?

2438
02:27:33.479 --> 02:27:37.399
I hear that you don't even have
to buy your fucking blank What does that

2439
02:27:37.440 --> 02:27:41.360
bullshit? Everybody gets a free tepe, right, yeah? Man? Leagues

2440
02:27:41.399 --> 02:27:45.840
for kids, fucking babies, I
know, right, like literal infants,

2441
02:27:45.840 --> 02:27:54.360
like fucking I'm gonna play as a
DJ. What John and Toronto rights in

2442
02:27:54.600 --> 02:28:00.319
with an email entitled Fast seven slash
Saints Row A little podcast. Seen that

2443
02:28:00.360 --> 02:28:03.559
movie and I don't want anyone.
I don't want anyone fucking talking about specifics

2444
02:28:03.559 --> 02:28:05.680
of that movie. I thought you
didn't care about spoilers. I just I

2445
02:28:05.719 --> 02:28:11.639
don't want this question had better be
good? All right? Uh? Well,

2446
02:28:11.639 --> 02:28:13.319
you already heard that it has something
to do the Saints Row. I

2447
02:28:13.360 --> 02:28:16.639
went and saw The Fast and of
wait he calls it the Fast and the

2448
02:28:16.680 --> 02:28:20.200
Furious seven. That's not right.
Is it Furious seven? Is it Furious

2449
02:28:20.200 --> 02:28:22.040
seven? Is that the name of
the thing? Yeah, I guess yeah.

2450
02:28:22.079 --> 02:28:26.639
I went and saw the movie over
the weekend, having not seen or

2451
02:28:26.680 --> 02:28:28.760
read anything about the movie since the
original. While I enjoyed the movie,

2452
02:28:28.760 --> 02:28:33.399
I couldn't help think that if it
was named Saints Row the seventh movie,

2453
02:28:33.840 --> 02:28:37.760
almost nothing would need to change.
So I ask, what would you imagine

2454
02:28:37.760 --> 02:28:39.760
a Hollywood version of Saints Row to
be and who would be cast? I

2455
02:28:39.760 --> 02:28:45.000
mean it would be like the scary
movie Guys or whatever, making like oh

2456
02:28:45.040 --> 02:28:48.559
action movie. That's what they would
do. So you're saying that would just

2457
02:28:48.559 --> 02:28:54.040
be a parody I mean that's kind
of kind of a parody of action games

2458
02:28:54.120 --> 02:28:56.120
is GTA games. I mean it
started out that way and then went into

2459
02:28:56.200 --> 02:29:01.120
like weird other referential stuff like when
they're recreating like you know, stuff from

2460
02:29:01.200 --> 02:29:03.600
they Live in There and stuff like
that. Like it's, yeah, I

2461
02:29:03.879 --> 02:29:07.719
see what you're saying. Like it
is, there's got a weird parody element

2462
02:29:07.760 --> 02:29:11.920
to it. But that's that's not
just a strict parody. That's some kind

2463
02:29:11.920 --> 02:29:13.840
of weird like pop culture catch all. Yeah. Yeah, just like here's

2464
02:29:13.879 --> 02:29:18.079
a bunch of references from everything we
can think of, but not. But

2465
02:29:18.120 --> 02:29:22.079
I mean it's it's handled work.
It's handled more shrewdly than that in those

2466
02:29:22.120 --> 02:29:24.600
games. Yeah. Yeah, that's
that's selling it a bit short. It's

2467
02:29:24.600 --> 02:29:28.799
not well, I'm saying it's not
lazy. It's not just a lazy collection

2468
02:29:28.799 --> 02:29:31.399
of references. You know. Yes, script to the guy who made spring

2469
02:29:31.399 --> 02:29:37.000
Break, I'm gonna I'm gonna okay, yeah, sure, Harmony and Cream.

2470
02:29:37.120 --> 02:29:43.920
Yeah about that. I'm going to
make the radical suggestion, Yeah it

2471
02:29:43.959 --> 02:29:48.440
really does. I'm gonna make a
radical suggestion that we cast Keith David as

2472
02:29:48.520 --> 02:29:52.120
Keith David m They'll never work.
Uh, I don't like, I don't

2473
02:29:52.120 --> 02:29:56.079
know what you do with the Boss
though, because that's a totally malleable character,

2474
02:29:56.200 --> 02:29:58.479
you know. Yeah, the whole
movie is set in first person,

2475
02:29:58.559 --> 02:30:03.360
so you're a how to envision the
Boss as it worked for the Doom movie?

2476
02:30:03.479 --> 02:30:05.680
Yeah, nothing worked for the Doom
Movie. Nope, I own that.

2477
02:30:07.760 --> 02:30:11.920
Wow, Yeah you do, all
right, of course you do.

2478
02:30:13.559 --> 02:30:16.559
I don't really have a lot of
ideas off the top of the head.

2479
02:30:16.600 --> 02:30:20.440
But Saints Row could work as a
movie, sure. I mean yeah,

2480
02:30:20.159 --> 02:30:22.600
Saints Row was kind of a blank
slate in a lot of ways and kind

2481
02:30:22.600 --> 02:30:26.799
of fill it full of whatever fucking
dumb shit. You It's not to say

2482
02:30:26.840 --> 02:30:30.239
that there's no art to it,
but you could adapt it a lot of

2483
02:30:30.239 --> 02:30:33.319
stuff to fit in the Saints Row
world with the way that they've left things

2484
02:30:33.639 --> 02:30:37.079
truth Saints Row. Okay, all
right, I like that. Yeah,

2485
02:30:39.120 --> 02:30:43.559
keep going, Jeffrey Rush. I
need this Kinsey putting a fucking gun in

2486
02:30:43.600 --> 02:30:48.079
the Boss's mouth. And I should
watch spring Breakers again. Yeah, I

2487
02:30:48.079 --> 02:30:52.760
don't know if I can ever watch
spring Breakers again. There was actually there

2488
02:30:52.840 --> 02:30:56.280
was talk about producing a remix of
spring Breakers that they had shot enough other

2489
02:30:56.399 --> 02:31:01.319
Ship that they were just gonna cut
into another fucking movie. Wow, the

2490
02:31:01.440 --> 02:31:07.079
untold story like Anchorman. Fuck uh, I don't know if that's still happening

2491
02:31:07.600 --> 02:31:11.520
or what? All right, wait
is that what Anchorman two? Is?

2492
02:31:11.799 --> 02:31:16.520
No Anchorman two the like extra Netflix
cut is that? And also the first

2493
02:31:16.760 --> 02:31:20.200
the first Anchor Man, they produced
another like out of stuff they shot for

2494
02:31:20.280 --> 02:31:22.959
the movie. They went and cut
it into like a separate thing. It's

2495
02:31:22.959 --> 02:31:26.520
called Wake Up, Run Burgundy.
It's it's technically like a separate it's a

2496
02:31:26.559 --> 02:31:30.319
separate DVD. Yeah, I've never
heard of that. Yeah, whoa,

2497
02:31:30.479 --> 02:31:31.520
it's like it comes with Anchor Man. It's just like it's one of the

2498
02:31:31.559 --> 02:31:35.280
special features with Anchor Man. Is
it's like an hour and a half.

2499
02:31:35.399 --> 02:31:37.600
Yeah, I mean they have to
patch everything together with like weird error.

2500
02:31:37.639 --> 02:31:41.479
I was going to say, is
it a coherent thing. It's just basically

2501
02:31:41.520 --> 02:31:46.600
just a big like I'll takes real
Yeah, I mean like whole like side

2502
02:31:46.600 --> 02:31:48.639
plots that didn't happen. Like it
was this huge like bank robbery subplot that

2503
02:31:48.680 --> 02:31:52.360
never happens. And Yeah, I
got the impression that the second Anchorman was

2504
02:31:52.440 --> 02:31:56.840
not very well liked. It's not
as good as the first time. Yeah,

2505
02:31:56.159 --> 02:32:01.639
not surprising. I think too much
time had passed. Brian from Durham,

2506
02:32:01.680 --> 02:32:07.639
North Carolina wants to know what happened
to futuristic racing games even stop buying

2507
02:32:07.680 --> 02:32:09.520
them, say stop making them.
Damn it now I can't even read the

2508
02:32:09.520 --> 02:32:15.520
email. I'll read the email.
Growing up, two of my favorite games

2509
02:32:15.520 --> 02:32:18.200
were F zero X on the N
sixty four and F zero g X on

2510
02:32:18.239 --> 02:32:20.239
the GameCube. I love the attack
mechanics, the speed, and the world

2511
02:32:20.319 --> 02:32:24.559
that series created. Really, I
thought of F zero haven't having much of

2512
02:32:24.559 --> 02:32:28.440
a fiction that Captain Falcon. Yeah, Samurai Goro, Samurai, dude,

2513
02:32:30.719 --> 02:32:33.440
Nintendo hasn't made one of these games
in over a decade, and no one

2514
02:32:33.479 --> 02:32:35.239
else has really made a good knockoff. Wipe Out never did it for me.

2515
02:32:37.200 --> 02:32:39.840
There seems to be a big market
for racing games. We'd get plenty

2516
02:32:39.879 --> 02:32:43.639
of them every year, but they
all seem so similar in actual gameplay when

2517
02:32:43.680 --> 02:32:48.719
compared to something like F zero.
You don't actually get that many racing games

2518
02:32:48.719 --> 02:32:54.639
anymore either. True, I feel
like even among the established series though,

2519
02:32:54.639 --> 02:32:58.000
well, actually some of those have
even fallen off. Yeah, I was

2520
02:32:58.040 --> 02:33:01.319
gonna say there's sports. I would
have said Need for Speed if that didn't

2521
02:33:01.319 --> 02:33:03.879
even come out last year, right, although I surely there will be one

2522
02:33:03.920 --> 02:33:09.159
this year. I can't. It's
hard for me to imagine a world where

2523
02:33:09.239 --> 02:33:13.040
they don't have any need for speed
game for this year. Yeah, but

2524
02:33:13.159 --> 02:33:18.120
actually, I mean there was drive
club grants for his most too sporadic Yeah,

2525
02:33:18.200 --> 02:33:20.760
the Crew. God. Maybe you're
right, maybe there really aren't that

2526
02:33:20.760 --> 02:33:26.000
many driving games anymore, not like
there used to be. Yeah, gosh,

2527
02:33:26.239 --> 02:33:28.159
what's the futuristic one, Jeff?
He worked on Connecticut? Yeah?

2528
02:33:28.319 --> 02:33:31.479
Is that the one where it was
like people or robots and the wheels?

2529
02:33:33.399 --> 02:33:35.840
It extreme g extreme g Yeah?
Right, is the tunnel b one?

2530
02:33:37.159 --> 02:33:43.799
Uh? Stune Runner out stun Runner
making new stun Runner game? Oh yeah,

2531
02:33:43.920 --> 02:33:46.399
make a new stun Runner a game. Let's do that. Yeah.

2532
02:33:46.399 --> 02:33:52.479
I don't know. I'd be down
for some futuristic cover racing. There isstance

2533
02:33:52.799 --> 02:33:56.639
oh right, yeah, yeah,
there's there's some stuff like that, like

2534
02:33:56.719 --> 02:34:01.879
Race the Sun or whatever. Rights, Yeah, there's another cons I feel

2535
02:34:01.920 --> 02:34:07.159
like the wipe Out guys made a
new studio and are making something, uh

2536
02:34:07.959 --> 02:34:11.920
in the spirit of wipe Out.
Yeah, you know you should watch Formula

2537
02:34:11.959 --> 02:34:22.159
E. It is electric cars racing
on street circuits around the world, and

2538
02:34:22.319 --> 02:34:28.719
there is a DJ that live scores
the beginning and the end of the races.

2539
02:34:31.559 --> 02:34:39.760
That sounds pretty awesome. I'm following
the Formula ej on Twitter because it's

2540
02:34:39.760 --> 02:34:43.639
Formula E for energy for electricity for
electric cars. Also when they pit jockey,

2541
02:34:45.079 --> 02:34:52.000
Yeah, when they pit, they
don't refuel because they're electric cars and

2542
02:34:52.079 --> 02:34:54.680
they don't have time to switch out
the batteries, so they jump out of

2543
02:34:54.760 --> 02:35:00.440
their car into a new car.
I love that. Yeah, it's well,

2544
02:35:00.479 --> 02:35:03.840
fuck this car, it's dead.
Yeah, it's so weird. They

2545
02:35:03.920 --> 02:35:07.840
just need to figure out induction charging
so they can have a strip on the

2546
02:35:07.159 --> 02:35:11.200
yes road that you drive over to
fuel the car. It's gotta be purple.

2547
02:35:11.319 --> 02:35:16.920
Yeah, once they get that going. Man, the future, I

2548
02:35:16.079 --> 02:35:24.879
just want a type of racing competition
that resembles speed Racer the movie. Hmm.

2549
02:35:24.319 --> 02:35:31.399
I mean this is the eventual future
of Formula one. They are getting

2550
02:35:31.440 --> 02:35:35.680
weirder every year. Yeah, I
just want wacky races. What was the

2551
02:35:35.719 --> 02:35:39.360
snigly whiplash dude and wacky races that
had the dog space races? Yeah?

2552
02:35:39.440 --> 02:35:43.360
Yeah, what was that guy's name? I feel like we had that.

2553
02:35:43.399 --> 02:35:46.200
We just had this conversation, yeah, and figured out his name was.

2554
02:35:46.239 --> 02:35:50.799
We looked at Upaka, it's a
good name for snidly. With lash standin,

2555
02:35:50.959 --> 02:35:54.680
I will continue to say that laugh
Olympics is better than wacky races.

2556
02:35:56.319 --> 02:36:00.159
I saw an actual roadrunner in Mexico. Wow, they look like there's all

2557
02:36:00.280 --> 02:36:03.879
right, Yeah, it's about you
know. And in justest Home. Yeah,

2558
02:36:03.280 --> 02:36:07.399
was the road like flying up behind
it? H No, his feet

2559
02:36:07.440 --> 02:36:11.159
were not a spiral. Oh okay, did say meet meep? I was

2560
02:36:11.200 --> 02:36:13.680
in a car. I couldn't hear. It's unfortunate. You see the thing

2561
02:36:13.719 --> 02:36:18.000
that's gonna run the internet not that
long ago. Where was the actual rules

2562
02:36:18.079 --> 02:36:20.840
for animating the road runner? Yeah? I had like eight rules and yeah,

2563
02:36:20.920 --> 02:36:22.559
one of him was like he always
has to be on the road like

2564
02:36:22.600 --> 02:36:26.239
he's a road runner. He does
not go off the really specific stuff.

2565
02:36:26.239 --> 02:36:28.920
It was pretty smart. Yeah,
he never hurts the coyote. The coyote

2566
02:36:28.959 --> 02:36:33.799
just always hurts himself and competence.
Yeah that's the best cartoon. Yeah,

2567
02:36:35.159 --> 02:36:39.200
classic, But it did look like
that bird. All right, it's good.

2568
02:36:39.680 --> 02:36:46.399
It's a field report. Robert from
Atlanta write son about remake versus New

2569
02:36:46.479 --> 02:36:50.799
Game. Hey bodcast, love the
show. When you're considering games for Game

2570
02:36:50.799 --> 02:36:52.000
of the Year discussions, where do
you draw the line for a game that

2571
02:36:52.120 --> 02:36:56.559
draws heavily from other games. Does
a game like Majorre's Mask three D make

2572
02:36:56.639 --> 02:36:58.440
the cut with a lot of gameplay
changes to the game, like more save

2573
02:36:58.479 --> 02:37:03.200
points and five adjustment of the time
mechanic. Can you think of any game

2574
02:37:03.280 --> 02:37:05.799
that toes the line and has caused
some discussion about whether it counts or not.

2575
02:37:07.760 --> 02:37:11.799
I think generally we would disqualify stuff
like that. Even as much as

2576
02:37:11.840 --> 02:37:13.200
I liked that and the improvements,
I don't think I would consider it for

2577
02:37:13.280 --> 02:37:16.719
my top ten list or anything.
Yeah, it also gets weird when you

2578
02:37:16.799 --> 02:37:18.319
run a wiki and you have to
decide, like does this get its own

2579
02:37:18.360 --> 02:37:22.559
page or is this just listed as
a release under the old game It was

2580
02:37:22.600 --> 02:37:26.399
always weird too reviewing stuff like that. So it's like, let's say you

2581
02:37:26.440 --> 02:37:28.680
review street Fighter four and you give
it a nine point five, and then

2582
02:37:28.760 --> 02:37:31.479
like Super street Fighter four comes out
and it's like, well, this is

2583
02:37:31.799 --> 02:37:37.879
better. So I mean, like
that argument always tends to happen around gaming

2584
02:37:37.959 --> 02:37:39.479
journalism place. Yeah, well it
doesn't have the impact of the first time,

2585
02:37:39.559 --> 02:37:43.239
so even though it's a better game, maybe it'll score lower. Like

2586
02:37:43.319 --> 02:37:48.040
those are always weird conversations to have
majoras seems like a borderline case to me,

2587
02:37:50.319 --> 02:37:52.760
like they totally read it. All
the graphics, they added a bunch

2588
02:37:52.760 --> 02:37:54.440
of new mechanics. I think it's
way better, but it's on a different

2589
02:37:54.440 --> 02:37:56.799
platform. I mean, yes,
it is the basically the same content,

2590
02:37:56.959 --> 02:38:01.639
but it's kind of different names.
I mean, what would what would you

2591
02:38:01.639 --> 02:38:07.440
do with Dark Souls the Dark Souls
rerelease and not as Mud and definitely not

2592
02:38:07.520 --> 02:38:09.040
I don't think that that. No, those seem like the same thing to

2593
02:38:09.120 --> 02:38:13.200
me. Dark Souls is like a
year yea. Dark Souls is a year

2594
02:38:13.280 --> 02:38:16.280
later on the next LAM is supposed
to changes like it's similar, stuff like

2595
02:38:16.440 --> 02:38:20.719
may change to the gameplay it includes, you know, like I think you

2596
02:38:20.760 --> 02:38:22.639
got to give some consideration to how
long it's been and what platforms you can

2597
02:38:22.719 --> 02:38:28.559
play it on. Anyway, it's
all academic. It's just a bunch of

2598
02:38:28.000 --> 02:38:33.719
naval gazing conversations in the games press. Yeah, a bunch of arbitrary decisions

2599
02:38:33.840 --> 02:38:39.040
made based on what people are feeling
at that moment. It's almost things get

2600
02:38:39.079 --> 02:38:43.639
done. So no, Major's master
is not up for consideration. But weirdly

2601
02:38:43.760 --> 02:38:46.280
enough, Dark Souls two is I
don't know, Yeah, yeah, funny

2602
02:38:46.319 --> 02:38:54.120
how that works, Ray says,
greetings from Osaka. I just thought I

2603
02:38:54.399 --> 02:38:58.120
just thought i'd let you guys know
there's job opening at the Robot restaurant in

2604
02:38:58.200 --> 02:39:03.280
Tokyo. Links to the any links
to the page where you can apply for

2605
02:39:03.360 --> 02:39:07.159
that job. All right with the
rainbow afrog Whig did not quit? Did

2606
02:39:07.239 --> 02:39:09.000
he? I have to? I
don't know he was there? What Andrew?

2607
02:39:09.079 --> 02:39:11.360
I have to? But I mean
you could be that, you know

2608
02:39:11.440 --> 02:39:13.799
what if you were The next guy
was really talented. I think I saw

2609
02:39:13.840 --> 02:39:16.319
that guy playing a guitar. Oh. Man, that guy's cool. I

2610
02:39:16.399 --> 02:39:20.680
have to finish his email. Oh
there's more, and it gets intense.

2611
02:39:20.399 --> 02:39:24.920
That said, a hand to draw
a near perfect circle, let's say accuracy

2612
02:39:26.079 --> 02:39:30.440
three times for a million dollars tax
free and the rights to the much anticipated

2613
02:39:30.559 --> 02:39:33.520
Blood on the Sand two featuring g
Unit. Or spend the rest of your

2614
02:39:33.600 --> 02:39:39.239
life working as a waiter at the
Robot restaurant. Take the challenge and then

2615
02:39:39.239 --> 02:39:43.200
he signs his email piece and youcrease
Ray, Yeah, I haven't heard that

2616
02:39:43.280 --> 02:39:46.000
one before. How much money?
A million? No? Yeah, that's

2617
02:39:46.120 --> 02:39:52.319
crazy. That's not nearly enough to
risk your entire life being a waiter at

2618
02:39:52.360 --> 02:39:54.479
some weird basement future restaurant. I
mean that'd be fun for like a week.

2619
02:39:54.639 --> 02:39:56.440
Yeah, for a while, it
would, but not for the rest

2620
02:39:56.440 --> 02:40:01.600
of your life. I wonder if
they'd let me up on the diamond and

2621
02:40:01.719 --> 02:40:07.840
crusted horse you get promoted to with
the sparkly lady parade goer. Hey,

2622
02:40:07.040 --> 02:40:09.559
let me drive the tank. Yeah, oh yeah, the tank, the

2623
02:40:09.639 --> 02:40:13.000
neon tank. Yeah, this guy's
challenges nuts. Who would take that?

2624
02:40:16.239 --> 02:40:18.319
The Rubbot restaurants pretty cool, I
guess. I don't know. Don't get

2625
02:40:18.360 --> 02:40:20.280
the food. I keep waiting for
the Was it not good? No?

2626
02:40:20.520 --> 02:40:22.440
No, that's wait. Did you
just say it was bad or you just

2627
02:40:22.440 --> 02:40:26.680
didn't get much? It's nothing.
Yeah, you get this dumb little box

2628
02:40:26.879 --> 02:40:28.879
with just some like pretty generic stuff
in it, right, Like they say

2629
02:40:28.959 --> 02:40:33.200
restaurant, but it's you're paying for
the show. Yes, eat beforehand.

2630
02:40:33.200 --> 02:40:39.000
I wonder I feel like that thing
is it's just on the cusp of being

2631
02:40:39.120 --> 02:40:41.879
over exposed. I mean, it's
a tourist attraction, well it is,

2632
02:40:43.079 --> 02:40:46.159
but like it's becoming the tourist.
It's like the thing everybody's like. It's

2633
02:40:46.200 --> 02:40:48.760
because everyone already went to Super Potato, I guess, And I don't think

2634
02:40:48.760 --> 02:40:52.360
they have the chair made a cartridge
is there anymore? So I remembered hearing

2635
02:40:52.760 --> 02:40:56.200
that they moved it out and that
didn't suck on the top floor. Did

2636
02:40:56.280 --> 02:41:00.479
not see it the top top floor
with like just the arcade miss and not

2637
02:41:00.559 --> 02:41:03.399
nearly as many like games to buy
because they had the top floor that was

2638
02:41:03.479 --> 02:41:09.520
mostly arcage and I went about a
year at Super Potato. Yeah, I

2639
02:41:09.559 --> 02:41:13.680
don't know. They might have moved
stuff around or something. Let me anyway,

2640
02:41:13.159 --> 02:41:18.239
check my photos. You got a
photology of what went down. They

2641
02:41:18.280 --> 02:41:22.639
had a Big Boss statue on the
third floor last year with like a missing

2642
02:41:22.719 --> 02:41:30.680
hand. Gross. Nobody wants that
Big Boss missing a hand. I've got

2643
02:41:30.719 --> 02:41:33.319
one more email that I saved for
him a couple of weeks ago for Dan.

2644
02:41:33.840 --> 02:41:37.079
Okay, I feel like we're kind
of out of the window for it

2645
02:41:37.200 --> 02:41:41.760
now. This is when I was. I don't remember. It's about Sebastian

2646
02:41:41.760 --> 02:41:46.639
bach An Axl Rose. I guess
I could read it when they remade back

2647
02:41:46.680 --> 02:41:48.680
in the Saddle a couple of years
ago. Now that I've brought it up,

2648
02:41:48.680 --> 02:41:50.600
I guess I have to read it. It's from It's from David and

2649
02:41:50.680 --> 02:41:56.760
Melbourne hologibomb with this recent Sebastian box
talk on the podcast I talked You Welcome

2650
02:41:56.760 --> 02:42:01.879
to b Talker on the Air.
Were launching a premium Semashion Bocca only podcast

2651
02:42:03.040 --> 02:42:07.239
Premium. The whole world needs to
hear about Smashing Bach. Oh, I'm

2652
02:42:07.239 --> 02:42:11.399
sure he's perfectly willing to tell them
himself. I felt the need to share

2653
02:42:11.440 --> 02:42:13.399
this story of seeing him live.
A few years ago. Guns and Roses

2654
02:42:13.399 --> 02:42:18.159
played two shows at the Brisbane Entertainment
Center and I was present at the second

2655
02:42:18.280 --> 02:42:22.159
night. Bach was the support act, and for a man in his forties,

2656
02:42:22.559 --> 02:42:26.479
he wasn't afraid to wear leather pants
and ramble incomprehensible nonsense between songs fucking

2657
02:42:26.559 --> 02:42:31.239
a The highlight I remembered was Box
screaming at the crowd in a tone that

2658
02:42:31.280 --> 02:42:35.000
suggested he was answering a question nobody
asked by saying, this fucking song is

2659
02:42:35.040 --> 02:42:39.520
for our fucking troops. They're fighting
for our fucking freedom. The song in

2660
02:42:39.639 --> 02:42:43.719
question was you don't understand. After
baking, his band departed. Almost two

2661
02:42:43.840 --> 02:42:46.920
hours passed with no sign of Guns
and Roses. This is in Australia.

2662
02:42:48.040 --> 02:42:54.319
Yes, troops has a pretty different
connotation. Yeah, I hope that I'm

2663
02:42:54.360 --> 02:43:00.719
fucking that awesome when I'm in my
forties. Yeah, wearing leather pants,

2664
02:43:00.799 --> 02:43:03.879
no doubt, I don't buy some
other pants. Yeah, that's where it

2665
02:43:03.959 --> 02:43:07.399
starts. That leads to Once you're
leading the leather pants lifestyle, I think

2666
02:43:07.399 --> 02:43:09.319
the rest of it just clicks into
place. I guess, oh yeah,

2667
02:43:09.600 --> 02:43:15.280
everything else follows man. Almost two
hours passed when those sign of guns Roses

2668
02:43:15.319 --> 02:43:18.680
with the crowd properly pissed off.
Axel Rose ran full speed on stage to

2669
02:43:18.760 --> 02:43:22.120
the to the sounds of Welcome to
the Jungle, was out of wind after

2670
02:43:22.239 --> 02:43:26.920
doing his snake dance and his shot
an annas. He then preemptively apologized for

2671
02:43:26.959 --> 02:43:31.280
the remainder of the show because he
and Bok had been blackout drunk all day

2672
02:43:31.360 --> 02:43:35.520
due to drinking heavily until eight o'clock
in the morning after the previous night's show.

2673
02:43:35.360 --> 02:43:39.399
True to his word, the majority
of the show was half assed rubbish,

2674
02:43:39.280 --> 02:43:43.319
but everything was worth it just to
hear Axel seeing night train ps Sydney

2675
02:43:43.360 --> 02:43:46.760
is still a dumbhole. That's part
of the fun of seeing guns and Roses

2676
02:43:46.840 --> 02:43:48.639
life. I always see him once. I don't think i'd call that fun.

2677
02:43:50.479 --> 02:43:52.920
It's just not knowing what Axel,
You're gonna get pissed off leave the

2678
02:43:52.959 --> 02:43:56.200
show early acts, so I would
assume in this day and age, you

2679
02:43:56.399 --> 02:44:00.200
know roughly what kind of axle you're
gonna get. I saw him about out

2680
02:44:00.360 --> 02:44:05.000
two years ago, maybe three years
ago in Minneapolis, and like the show

2681
02:44:05.159 --> 02:44:09.600
or two before that, terrible reviews, super late, terrible voice, seemed

2682
02:44:09.680 --> 02:44:13.120
just like fatigued or whatever. Everything
I've seen him in all of his performances

2683
02:44:13.200 --> 02:44:16.239
of the last few years, he
sounds completely terrible. That the one I

2684
02:44:16.319 --> 02:44:20.120
saw Matt, he was on time. He did a four hour show and

2685
02:44:20.200 --> 02:44:24.280
it was amazing. It sounded like
old Axel the entire time. And I've

2686
02:44:24.319 --> 02:44:30.200
seen plenty of like I've seen shitty
acts arose Chinese Democracy Tour performances like he

2687
02:44:30.280 --> 02:44:31.760
can be shitty. I'm not going
to defend him when he's shitty. But

2688
02:44:31.879 --> 02:44:35.040
he was on fire that Target Center
show, Matt, Wow, it was

2689
02:44:35.239 --> 02:44:39.959
awesome. Did he ask anyone for
some reggae? No, he'd then fuck

2690
02:44:41.079 --> 02:44:46.600
that. It was a great show. That show. I can can either

2691
02:44:46.680 --> 02:44:52.520
confirm nor deny the existence of the
cartridge chair, but I do have the

2692
02:44:52.600 --> 02:44:56.200
picture here of Saal Snake. He's
not missing a hand, he's missing his

2693
02:44:56.280 --> 02:45:01.079
gun. He'll probably be fine,
ye, something tells me he can get

2694
02:45:01.120 --> 02:45:05.440
by without a gun. This is
on site procurement YEP, weapons equipment USP.

2695
02:45:07.440 --> 02:45:11.159
Uh, that's gonna do it.
For emails podcast at GiantBomb dot com.

2696
02:45:11.799 --> 02:45:16.079
Is the email address, Yeah,
put a few extra ms on it.

2697
02:45:16.799 --> 02:45:20.760
The compass. How did you do
it? We'll hear it. I

2698
02:45:20.799 --> 02:45:24.799
don't remember. You don't remember it. I don't remember where the emphasis was.

2699
02:45:24.200 --> 02:45:26.719
Yeah, I never do. Well, I'll talk about way back when

2700
02:45:26.879 --> 02:45:33.319
you're in the headier days of your
dot com delivery dot com right, But

2701
02:45:33.399 --> 02:45:35.760
it's more syllables now, so I
don't think it would come out the same.

2702
02:45:37.760 --> 02:45:39.799
Well, it just depends on because
I would stretch one of out.

2703
02:45:39.840 --> 02:45:41.079
I just don't remember which one it
was. It was usually the game,

2704
02:45:43.399 --> 02:45:46.799
No, you switched it up.
I think it's usually game game. It

2705
02:45:46.920 --> 02:45:52.920
was the long syllable sometimes you go
game SPA after three hours of talking.

2706
02:45:52.159 --> 02:45:54.719
I think I might have only done
that as like a joke, really like

2707
02:45:54.840 --> 02:45:58.239
stretching it out the other syllable,
just to make Rich laugh or something to

2708
02:45:58.440 --> 02:46:03.799
forget. But I don't know how
you could do that after three hours of

2709
02:46:03.879 --> 02:46:07.280
talking in the microphone, young throat. The throat is already kind of shot

2710
02:46:07.319 --> 02:46:09.840
after this podcast, young man.
And now actually I agree with you that.

2711
02:46:09.959 --> 02:46:13.680
Like sometimes after we're doing done doing
the show, like I'm driving home,

2712
02:46:13.719 --> 02:46:16.719
I go like my throws a little. Yeah, yeah, I can

2713
02:46:16.799 --> 02:46:18.719
feel it. I can feel its
starting to get a little little scratchy there.

2714
02:46:18.719 --> 02:46:22.719
We've got to take care of our
instruments, yes, yes, nurture

2715
02:46:22.760 --> 02:46:26.200
your instrument yeah, uh, work
on your ambaiture for next week. Yeah,

2716
02:46:26.319 --> 02:46:31.479
otherwise we're gonna end up just sounding
like morning show DJs. Al Right,

2717
02:46:33.200 --> 02:46:35.600
is that the worst thing? No? Yes? Is it? Yeah?

2718
02:46:37.360 --> 02:46:39.280
No, I don't know. I
saw the snake impressions. Yeah,

2719
02:46:39.559 --> 02:46:43.799
yeah, maybe, I don't know. Let's all start smoking. Sure,

2720
02:46:45.319 --> 02:46:48.239
my dad started when he was forty. I might do that serious. What

2721
02:46:48.399 --> 02:46:54.120
was the decision there was? He
just like it was like divorce number nineteen

2722
02:46:54.200 --> 02:46:58.200
Okay. I also started smoking for
the second half as a smoker. Yeah,

2723
02:46:58.760 --> 02:47:01.719
oh boy. Also, he loves
how every time I mentioned his divorce

2724
02:47:01.760 --> 02:47:07.479
as it goes up like five,
we're nineteen now, it's impressive. Must

2725
02:47:07.520 --> 02:47:11.920
be setting a record at this point. All right, Well, that's probably

2726
02:47:11.079 --> 02:47:15.159
gonna do it for the podcast.
Kim can't really think of anything to follow

2727
02:47:15.280 --> 02:47:18.799
that. That's probably gonna do it. Guess guarantee, I guess this thing

2728
02:47:18.920 --> 02:47:22.440
is over. Uh there anything planned
for the week that we will talk about

2729
02:47:24.680 --> 02:47:26.840
their old game show. Yeah,
yeah, we're gonna play some more games

2730
02:47:26.879 --> 02:47:33.879
on Wednesday, another togs. Yeah
sure, I can confirm that the Thursday

2731
02:47:33.959 --> 02:47:39.879
morning episode of Metal Metal Gear Scanlon
Season three will be the finale, all

2732
02:47:39.959 --> 02:47:43.799
right? Is that the next one
then will be the of this recording?

2733
02:47:43.920 --> 02:47:48.120
Yes, okay, the next episode
we'll be Thursday morning. Yeah, well,

2734
02:47:48.920 --> 02:47:54.399
technically it's wens Well for California,
it's Wednesday night and a close enough.

2735
02:47:54.600 --> 02:47:56.959
You completed your mission science, yes, great, Yeah, you gotta

2736
02:47:56.959 --> 02:48:00.680
adhere to these Metal Gear Solid three
embargoes nine pm because it's out midnight of

2737
02:48:00.680 --> 02:48:03.399
the East Coast. That's the whole
thing. It's the whole thing. Yep.

2738
02:48:03.239 --> 02:48:07.000
All right, well, stay tuned
for that stuff and whatever else happens.

2739
02:48:07.280 --> 02:48:11.040
Sure something will. Yeah, that's
gonna do it for this week's edition

2740
02:48:11.079 --> 02:48:13.319
of The Giant Podcast. Stay tuned
until next week.