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It's time for coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now, here's nick coffee. All right, let's get it started

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at the five o'clock hour here on
a beautiful Thursday afternoon. I hope I'm

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not lying to you by saying it's
beautiful. It's hot and sticky outside,

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but it's been sunny all day.
Maybe it's not anymore, but I haven't

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seen outside since I walked in here
about two and a half hours ago,

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but it was beautiful when I did. Actually, I came up from Sports

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and Social Club, had lunch with
my mother, John, which is always

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a great thing, right, and
you're a big endorser of that, and

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I agree with you. Yeah,
good do to get lunch with mom.

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We enjoyed ourselves and she works not
too far from here, she's a few

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blocks away. And yeah, had
a nice lunch. But something trippy really

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happened that his kind of you know, whenever I'm not in the zone and

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locked in and focused on this radio
show, you know, during commercial breaks,

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it keeps popping up in my mind
because it just seems unreal. So

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my mom and I were talking about
how we used to meet for lunch downtown

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at Ford Street many years ago,
and there used to be a lot more.

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I mean, in fact, I
don't know if you've seen this,

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John, but the TGF Friday shut
down, which was the first original tenant

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here at four Street Live. Okay, I don't know if I knew that.

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Did you even realize it was still
open before? I remember it being

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here and I don't remember it shutting
down. Yeah, so they closed I

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think it was a couple of weeks
ago, and they were the first original

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tenant here at four Street Live.
And they'll put something in there and I'm

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hoping that it's awesome, and the
restaurants that are here are great. I

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mean, I know some people if
you for Street Live as a tourist trap.

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And I get why people say that, because if you were downtown Louisville

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in one of the nice hotels and
you're looking for like a an entertainment district,

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obviously you have Nulu now, which
is great before stoot Live. I

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mean, there's there's a lot here
and they've had some really good concerts lately

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that have brought a lot of people
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have a food court which was above
the TGF Fridays there, and there was

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a subway. There was a pizza
place, there was a different type of

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sandwich spot. There was like an
Asian buffet kind of thing. Wasn't really

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buffet, but you know, you
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you know, it's gone. And
we were just talking about some of the

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other some of the other I guess
venues that used to be businesses that used

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to be here. In fact,
where I sit right now used to be

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Tango the Bar, and you know, then it closed and I don't know

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what it was between Tango and iHeart. I'm not sure it was anything,

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but that's now where we are.
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go. There used to be either
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up here right across from where we
are, which is now where PBR is.

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So there's been a lot of different
things that have come and gone over

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the years, and one of them
is the Impro Improv comedy club. And

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my mom and I were talking about
how, you know, because she'd mentioned

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some times that she'd gone to see
comedy, a stand up comedy, different

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places, and she'd gone to the
Improv and I mentioned, yeah, we

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went to the improv years ago,
my buddy and I along with our girlfriends

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at the time. Now we're both
married. They we went and saw Ralphie

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May, who was a really successful
comedian who passed away. I feel like

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it's been quite a while since he
passed away. But he was great,

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and you know, my mom was
like, yeah, I didn't know you

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ever saw him. So, you
know, we just moved along in conversation

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over the next few minutes, and
then I looked down and my phone had

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gone off, and I had a
text message from my buddy, who happened

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to be the same buddy, my
best friend Matt, who went with me

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to see Ralphie May along with our
ladies. Well, on his Facebook memories,

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it popped up as it being I
think it was eleven years ago that

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we did that on the exact same
day, and he texted me a screenshot

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of the picture that said rip because
Ralphie May died. I don't know for

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sure, but I'm pretty sure right
around the time, like the exact second

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that I was talking about. I
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talking about it. I was like, oh, yeah, I went and

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saw Ralphie May. There the exact
second I brought that up to my mom.

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I'm pretty sure he texted me to
tell me that it was exactly twelve

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years ago to the day. That
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about going to see Ralphie May since
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how's that's unbelievable? Is it?
DoD No, I mean, I

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believe it, but it is unbelievable
that that's crazy. Yes, I feel

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like I've had he didn't believe I
don't think he believed me, by the

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way. My mom will verify because
she was. She was. We were

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sitting there talking about it, like
that's crazy. I feel like I've had

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moments like that. I don't recall
anything specific, but anytime you have that's

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not really deja vu, right,
But it is one of those things where

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you just kind of feel weird while
you're experiencing it. It just doesn't make

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any sense how that the timing of
that could line up. Yeah, you

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know what I mean, And it
reminds me a little. I was trying

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to think of it, you know, during the break there, I was

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trying to think, like, is
anything I can't anything like that ever happened

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before and the closest thing I can
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this is wild, but there's an
explanation for it. So and I think

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I may have told this story on
the show before, if not with you,

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John, I think I probably did. I think I did the day

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after it happened, because it was
trippy then and it blew my mind,

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but now it makes more sense.
I was on a flight from Jacksonville to

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Louisville, and I don't know how
it worked out this way, but I

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had the middle seat, which I
did not want, and there was a

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mother and a daughter that were that
were in the same aisle or same row

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with me, and one was on
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Uh. And you know, she
asked as if like I was gonna

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you know, it was gonna be
a hard bargain for me if I wanted

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to not have the middle seat and
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And I was like, sure,
cause you want to sit by her

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daughter? Makes total sense. And
I was like, yeah, I don't.

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I don't mind. So, you
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of a conversation on the flight.
It was a rather quick flight, but

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once we landed, I turned my
plane or turned my phone off of airplane

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mode, and you know, service
was back, and I popped open Facebook

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and I'm scrolling down and if you
have Facebook, you know that section that

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says people you may know. I've
never met this woman. I was going

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home to Louisville. She was on
a connecting flight to Louisville. Never met

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her, don't know, didn't know
anything about her. But I'm scrolling down

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and she happens to look over at
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on the people you may know.
She ended up being from I think Texas.

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We'd never met, know nothing about
each other. She was freaked out,

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almost as if like she kind of
like thought I was like messing with

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her or something, and I'm you
know, and I'm thinking, like,

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yeah, I do, I don't
know. It turns out it's because our

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phones know, I mean, our
phones knew that we were close to each

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other because of the way that like
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Like that's why when you google something, I mean, your location. That's

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why whenever you are in like if
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and you open up apps that have
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that are targeted to where you are, Like your location is known on a

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lot of the things that you're on
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lot more things that are tracked that
you don't even know about. So that's

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like the closest thing I could think
of is like, wow, that's crazy.

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That is trippy. But again I
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that's technology, that's algorithm. Yeah, yeah, that's that. You know

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that. It's still wild that it
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would happen. So anyways, like
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man, that like there's something crazy
about to happen, because that's just

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it's like something you see in a
movie. Yeah, like if in a

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a very like a flashback type of
a thing. It's wild, so little

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wild Thursday, it's been. If
that's the wildest thing that happens to me

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today, that that explains how wild
my life really is. But anyways,

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enjoyed h I enjoyed lunch with mother, And I encourage people if you work

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downtown, you know, come and
take in four Street Live. There's there's

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some good restaurants here. They're now
open during lunch. They weren't for a

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while after the pandemic. There's a
good pizza spot, there's a new Mexican

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place, uh Sports and Social has
great food. And I'm not getting paid

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to say this by any means.
I don't have any any business arrangement,

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And in fact, we don't hear
at Ihart Louvell. We're just when we're

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attended here. So there is a
if you go to if you if you

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go to lunch like every day,
which a lot of people do, honestly,

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which I'm sure that's adding up,
and that's becoming much more expensive anywhere

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you go. Like a lot of
the places here, aren't you know,

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you're I mean, fast food's no
longer cheap in my opinion, but like

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a lot of these places all sit
down, so obviously you can't do it

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every every day. But like if
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eat, I don't know, once
a week or something, come to one

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of these spots because I think you'll, you know, you'll you'll remind you'll

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remember force street life kind of used
to be the place to be and it

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still is to an extent for a
lot of people who are traveling and when

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we leave here on Fridays when they
have those hot country night concerts like it's

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packed. In fact, do you
know who's gonna be here tomorrow, John,

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Who is it? Tracy Lawrence?
Trey? Oh, Tracy Lawrence R

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Tomorrow night right here at four Street
Live folks. Or maybe it's tonight.

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It might be tonight. Let me
look here now now I got to look

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it up. Well, either way, we'll celebrate by Tracy Lawrence. Oh,

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it's tomorrow. I was gonna say, if it's tonight, I may

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have to miss Moose's base of football
practice because you know I'm already here and

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he's about to play. You know
that could be something. So yeah,

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shout out to Tracy Lawrence. He's
still a legend. All right, let's

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get let's get back into the hard
hitting sports topics that we've been discussing today.

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And I hope you can sense the
sarcasm there. So I did start

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the show by mentioning the nonsense that
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I'm sure they want to expand,
and I actually really and I talked about

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this many times, including yesterday,
I really do like Brett Yormark, the

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Big Twelve commissioner saying bold things,
trying to be innovative, keeping the Big

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Twelve in, you know, in
the headlines. I think it's actually been

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a pretty good sign for him that
right now they don't have a lot of

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momentum as far as teams in their
league. I mean, they don't have

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a top dog. They lost Texas
Oklahoma. That's not going to be something

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you can just go out and replace
probably ever. But they have a cool

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factor to them because again they're creative
to the first ones of the of the

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big conferences to say, look,
we're not We're not afraid to throw a

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sponsor on the naming rights of our
league if it gives more money to this,

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to these members of the conference to
where they can be more competitive when

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it comes to you know, paying
paying athletes directly as a school, when

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that becomes a thing, then we'll
do it. So, you know,

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it's been I actually think he's done
a really good job. I'm a little

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envious of a lot of the creativity
and the innovation, and maybe i'm exagg

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maybe I'm being a little over the
top by by throwing those words out there,

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because it's not like they've changed the
game over overall. But they're not

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afraid to do something that nobody else
has done before, just to see if

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it might benefit the league as far
as revenue, as far as notoriety.

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And that to me is a good
leader and a good commissioner. I don't

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know what's going on with the ACC
commissioner, but anyways, yesterday it really

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took off on the internet, and
I'm blown away by the people who like,

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don't think for themselves for five seconds, and oh yeah, this is

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probably just somebody trying to get clicks. This is probably somebody just you know,

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knowing what conference re alignment can do, right, it blows up on

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the internet. I don't know.
It's unexplainable as to why conference re alignment

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as a There's been a lot of
it over the years. But as I

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said earlier, I believe in the
last fifteen years, eighty percent of the

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stuff you've read on the internet about
realignment was all nonsense. And I say

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that knowing that there was a lot
of shakeup. I mean this year specifically,

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it's crazy to think about Texas and
Oklahoma in the sec USC in UCLA

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and Washington and Oregon are in the
Big ten. It's nuts, Stanford and

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cal and the ACC. So there
has been a lot of movement, but

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think about all the things that you've
seen that were in the works that was

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just nonsense, and that's what's happening
right here. So there is a Big

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Twelve website that I'm not going to
claim that they are, you know,

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one of the leaders in college football
coverage, but Heartland College sports dot com

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has covered the Big Twelve for over
a decade and they are a reputable outlet.

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They were on hand covering the Big
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stories over the years, and this, to me is just such a stretch.

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They are the ones who, at
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act like this is real, that
the Big Twelve is in early conversations to

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expand with Florida State and Clemson,
and that's just not happening. Like,

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by the way, I don't know
if they would go if it could make

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more money, but like I don't
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Twelve. If they could, they'd
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As much as I think the Big
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attractive option to land if you're Louisville
and the ACC falls apart. Like Clemson

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and Florida State are the premier programs
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the SEC or the Big Ten.
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and it's I don't want to say, it's just public information that everybody knows,

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but it's easy to find out these
two schools are assuming the ACC because

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they would like to be able to
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right now, if one of those
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hey, we're here to announce that
we're leaving the conference and we know we

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owe an exit fee, here's our
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made out for five hundred and seventy
two million dollars. Five hundred and seventy

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two million dollars is what it would
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I mean, that alone makes it
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you see about the Big twelve expansion, including these two teams, and somebody

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threw in Notre Dame, I think
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like that, that's just not realistic. It's not possible to be honest with

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you. So, in fact,
the latest story this is somebody just sent

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this in. This is an ESPN
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initially filed, and of course now
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But Florida State estimates that it would
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leave the AC without a legal victory
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suing. The ACC will never settle, they'd be stupid to do that.

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is it it reminds me that the
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about the revenue gap that is there
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and we all know it's going to
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next ten years, the ACC is
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Now there's other things they've done where
you can make more money if you're

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more successful, and that's great,
but you know, just knowing that you

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and the ACC, in five years
in your Florida State or Clemson, you

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may have a national championship under your
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what, Vandy, They're bringing in
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that doesn't sit well. It's a
competitive world out there. And what really

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is going to be wild is when
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when the Big Twelve reups and they
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in twenty thirty, I think it
is without some without without some unexpected change,

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meaning they get out of the Grand
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Florida State will make less money from
their conference than Central Florida will.

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Same thing with Miami. Like I
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that, but like that's that's the
kind of stuff that'll force somebody's hand to

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figure something out because like that's I
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college athletics, it's all about power, money and all that stuff.

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And the people who are the big
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in Miami, especially Florida State and
Clemson even like they're not going to be

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able to go to sleep at night
knowing how much they're falling behind. Not

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only known, you know, schools
that they don't feel like are up to

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the same level as them, their
rivals, they're peers. Like South Carolina

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already makes more than Clemson, and
Clemson has done way more in football than

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South Carolina has in the last fifteen
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that number is gonna be in ten
years when when Clemson, if they're still

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in the ACC, is still stuck
with that same level of money and the

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SEC's probably re upped twice since then. So you know, I'm not acting

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like things are great because I still
am very underwhelmed with the ACC and the

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leadership of the league. But I
don't there's not somebody tell me something that's

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gonna that's gonna change the situation for
what it is right now. Somebody tell

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me what would happen to where these
schools get out and they end up in

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a different league, Like there could
be expansion everywhere. Let's say the you

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know, let's say the the AC
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They go to LinkedIn, they throw
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we're looking for new members. Apply. They could be it could be an

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open door thing. The ACC schools
ain't one with them because they can't,

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and I do give the AEC a
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lawyers. Whenever they counter sued Clemson
in Florida State after both schools sued the

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league, the first thing that was
mentioned in the legal document in response to

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the lawsuit in their countersuit, I
suppose, just throwing out legal terms,

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not really knowing what it means,
hoping I'm making some sense here. But

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they started off with quotes from the
athletic director or president one of the two

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from both schools talking about how happy
they were that the ACC network deal got

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done and that all these schools are
locked in and can and united from twenty

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sixteen when it was I think till
twenty thirty four. So it's just like

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it's you know, you can't claim
now that you are bothered by this when

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you agreed to it, you signed
it. It's a contract, and not

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only that, you publicly announced how
happy you were because it keeps everybody together.

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what other looking at what other schools

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are going to be getting from their
conference, and that's tough, but like

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you agreed to it. So I
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most part like what could like what's
realistic now? Right? Like, I

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don't think the Big twelve is going
to lose teams to anybody. I don't

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think that the I mean what put
like what puts like? What what could

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be the next big move in realignment, John, because I know you mentioned

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the other big schools have already just
said they've just settled in, right Yeah,

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ten or SEC calls on, like

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an Arizona or someone like that,
to jump from the Big twelve to THEIRS

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for more money, it wouldn't surprise
me. But that And you're right because

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I still think at the end of
the day, every school, and I

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mean every school, if they could, they would go to the Big ten

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of the SEC because they'd be stupid
not to, because they'd make so much

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more money. It'd be harder to
compete, it would be a lot more

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uh you know, travel, depending
on where you are, but it would

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be worth it if it's that lucrative. I mean, the Big ten and

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the SEC are rolling in a different
level of money. So you're right they

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you know that that that that would
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it would it would what I think
would make that nearly impossible to happen,

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would be that those like the SEC
wouldn't have any interest in them, you

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know what I mean, Like,
what are they bringing unless the SEC really

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wanted like West Coast presence, right, And that's the thing I feel like,

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not Indesa, Indiana because of the
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the Big Ten they'll they'll go anywhere, and they've already showed that. So

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it would surprise me if down the
road, Yeah, especially if if they

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wanted West Coast team or something a
Texas team. Yeah, Like if they

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seem unhappy the school the new schools
and the Big twelve specifically, it wouldn't

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surprise me if the Big Ten tries
to poach them down the road. Yeah,

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But I don't know, man,
Like I look at the SEC and

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the Big Ten and if I'm looking
to expand, not just to do it,

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but I'm wanting to add brand value. I'm wanting to add more eyeballs,

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and I'm wanting to just simply be
able to look at my league from

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top to bottom and say if we
add this team and that team, we

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got better. The only way to
do that would be it would be to

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go get schools you can't get because
they're in the ACC and they're locked down.

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I don't think there's a school in
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any would give them what I just
presented, you know what I mean.

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I think you're right. But what
the Big ten's always looked at as specific

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markets and that's why they initially went
after Maryland and Rutgers to get the DC

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area in the New York. Obviously
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and then you get the Northwest with
Washington Oregon. So I've always thought

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that down the road, I don't
know how far into the future this is,

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but the Big Ten in the SEC
are on a collision course to being

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the only two conferences. Again,
maybe that never happens, but that's the

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way that it's always looked, but
we'll just have to weigh. Yeah,

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And man, the alumni base of
some Big ten schools is so humongous to

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where like maybe they have enough alum
in you know, the West Coast,

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to where they could see some value
because they would actually maybe maybe, you

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know, I don't know people on
the West Coast. I feel like I

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don't care as much about college sports, but again. Yeah. The alumni

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base of schools like Indiana's specifically,
it's it's huge, and they're all over

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the place. I mean, those
guys who run the Hoosier Hysterics or whatever.

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Aren't they from lay in California?
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all right, let's get to a
quick break. We're way too late for

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our first break here in the five
o'clock hours, so bear with me what

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I want to get to on the
other side. The first thing I said,

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once we knew first Pat Kelsey did
Mark Pope, these two guys were

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going to be the head coaches in
this state. The rivalry, it just

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you know, it was unexpected,
right, But the first thing I thought

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of was here we go the rivalries
back on, right, because we each

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have new life here and obviously little
situation is much different. But I've seen

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some things along the way, including
something that happened in the last forty eight

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hours. They really just remind me
that, like we're kind of starting not

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over, but maybe we actually I
think we are starting over here, right,

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Like Pat Kelsey at't coached a game
yet, Mark Pope hasn't. I

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think you can each make fun of
each other and feel justified in doing it,

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and you know I wouldn't have it
any other way. So we'll talk

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about something mar Pope did recently that
got everybody all worked up. So stick

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with us right here. It's Coffee
and Company. Phil but Thornton's on Sports

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Talk seven to ninety as much as
I was just telling people they should come

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out to Four Street Live, and
you know, give downtown another chance if

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you haven't in a while, because
you just have this vision of it being

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a boarded up war zone. I
gotta say, I think I don't know

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if I think Tracy Lawrence is too
good for four Street like he I mean,

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he's a legend. I'm surprised he's
not playing a bigger venue. I

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mean, this is in the level
of hearing that you know, Pitt Bull

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was going to do a concert at
the Waterfront Park last year that like nobody

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talked about and it went on and
nobody seemed to even know that it happened,

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Like that's that's not this. But
you know some of the other artists

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that have been a part of this
hot country nights here at four Street Live,

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like you know, there're no Tracy
Lawrence. I mean, come on

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now, I mean, we got
it we're talking about a guy with I

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mean, in the nineties, Can't
Break It to My Heart, number one,

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my Second Home, number one,
If the Good Die Young, number

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one, Sticks and Stones number one, the one we just played, Alibi

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is number one, Texas Tornado number
one, time marches On, I mean

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a classic, and of course number
one. I mean, this guy is

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amazing, stars over Texas, A
better man, better off. I mean,

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come on now, I mean he's
great. By the way, one

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of my buddies, his wife,
she's she's a friend of mine too.

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We're all, you know, we're
we're all friends with each other. You

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know, we're not into it the
way you might think that after I just

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said that. But like, you
know, my wife, my buddy's wife

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is my friend, just like he's
my friend. And some of you guys

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are thinking, you know, weird
stuff. That's not what I mean.

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But she was. We were at
a we were at a charity event and

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Texas Tornado came on, and I
don't know if we were just hammered,

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but like everybody was slow dancing.
I don't really, I mean, that's

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a slower song, but I don't
think it's like a like a slow I

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guess it is kind of a romantic
song, but she thought it was Texas

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Tuxedo, not Texas Tornado, which
should be more fitting for if you're just

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trying to guess what kind of vibe
the song is going to bring and you

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never heard of it, that would
be more of a guess of a slow

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song, because Texas Tornado, that's
not that'd be like a speed one.

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Well, well, to be fair, like Texas Tuxedo is all denim or

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just like an old Texas tuch,
like an old Texas cowboy kind of suit

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with jeans and like the string tie, and like I can see Tracy Lawrence

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wearing both. So therefore it's like
it. You know, she kind of

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gets a little bit of a pass
because you know, if you looked at

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him wearing what he usually wears,
you could you might believe he was saying

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Texas Tuxedo. But you know,
anyway, shout out to Tracy Lawrence.

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He's great, all right. So
I'm not sure how many people care about

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this, but the TBT team in
Lexington, lat familiar. They just took

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a big hit. They lost three
players just less than two weeks away from

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the from the event, so I
guess they tweeted this out earlier within the

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afternoon that Dron Lamb, Reed,
Travis, and Marcus Tigue are all out

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because of obligations to the professional team. This happened last year with Earl Clark,

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which by the way, David Johnson
was officially added or Clark. There's

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been no word on that and I
haven't heard that he's going to be a

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part of it, but he did
participate in yesterday's workout, which was cool

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to see. But yeah, so
they now have Aaron, the Harrison Twins,

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bled so Willie cauley Stein, James
Young, Kellen Grady, Nate Sistina,

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Daniel Orton, Brennan Canada, and
Krim Canter who's actually Ennis Cant's brother,

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who I belief played for Chris mack
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their roster didn't take that big of
a hit. I mean, Dron Lamb,

407
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.880
I don't know if he's still playing
at a high level, obviously a

408
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.160
shooter, Marcus t you know,
I mean, I feel like they're best

409
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:44.279
players probably going to be Willie colly
Stein and Eric Bledsoe unless you know,

410
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:48.920
Daniel Orton's still playing at a high
level and James Young, Kellen Grady.

411
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.000
But yeah, Louisville right now,
they're still ahead when it comes to ticket

412
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:56.640
sales. And that's important because if
Louisll wins their region and Kentucky wins their

413
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:02.480
region, whoever sells the most tickets
in the opening rounds here, which both

414
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:04.880
are hosting, will be hosting the
quarter final or the I think it's the

415
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:10.200
quarterfinals. So you're in a good
spot now, Louisville. But let's let's

416
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:14.480
keep buying tickets. Let's keep keep
that lead going, all right, real

417
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:19.240
quick before we move on from the
Big twelve expansion stuff. So I understand

418
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:23.319
you will find articles on the internet, tweets from people who have a blue

419
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:30.079
check that'll say there's interest the Big
twelve has interest in three, four,

420
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.440
five, six schools in the ACC
and that you know, wow, these

421
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.759
schools with the ACC in the future
looking uncertain maybe maybe like you know,

422
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:42.279
but again, they could be madly
in love with each other. I mean,

423
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:47.720
Josh Hurt, he could go get
a Big twelve logo tattooed on his

424
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:55.759
forehead and profess his love to the
Big twelve, and he could just make

425
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:57.599
it clear that he loves Brett your
mark and he wants to be in the

426
00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:03.160
Big twelve, who's paying five hundred
and seventy two million dollars for that relationship

427
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:08.880
to actually be a thing. So
I got to stop getting triggered by it.

428
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.279
But like, that's not happening,
that's not a story, that's not

429
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.920
real, that's not that that is
internet nonsense. The Big twelve can want

430
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.759
every member of the ACC, the
ACC, every member in the league could

431
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.240
want to go to the Big twelve. There's a contract in place that would

432
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.119
cost these schools five hundred and seventy
two million dollars to get out of that

433
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:37.359
deal. We'll move on, all
right. So when it comes to rivalries,

434
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:44.519
pettiness is rampant, right, I
mean it's that's especially around here,

435
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.480
like Indiana Producer rivals John and for
those who don't know, John's a big

436
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:53.920
Hoosier. How different is it?
Like, it's definitely not nearly as twenty

437
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:57.119
four to seven as I feel like
the Louisville Kentucky rivalry is. Why do

438
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.880
you think that is? I think
there's definitely. I don't know. I

439
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:06.519
would say, for one thing around
here, you have Louisville and Kentucky fans.

440
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.519
They're they're they're living together in the
city of Louvos. I'm talking about

441
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.440
where we live specifically, and so
there's a lot more that you interact with

442
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.839
when you're around all of it.
With Indiana, most of the Indiana the

443
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:21.200
IU fan base is south of Indianapolis, and most of the Purdue fan base

444
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.920
is north of Indianapolis, and so
there's kind of a north south divide.

445
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:27.599
Yeah, not everybody, but just
a general consensus of it. And I

446
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.079
think if you live out in the
state of Kentucky, I don't know.

447
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.079
I mean, and trust me,
there are Louisville fans that are all over

448
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.519
the place in Kentucky. And I
don't mean like there's a billion of them.

449
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.000
I mean that you know, you'll
find some everywhere, but there's just

450
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.720
they're out numbered in a major way, which I've actually learned, like actually

451
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.240
really appreciate those people because they you
know, they're in there behind enemy lines

452
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.400
like every day, and you know, they know when they're walking around with

453
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:56.200
their Louisville stuff on in Campbellsville or
you know, Paducah or something like that,

454
00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.480
or hazard like they're they most people
look at them wearing that stuff and

455
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:06.640
probably this I mean, I'm not
saying this jokingly, they look at that

456
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:08.839
without knowing them, and they don't
like them. I mean, I hope

457
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.440
they don't harm them or insult them, but like that's that's the way this

458
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:18.079
is around here, Like it's we're
crazy so but but it's different in Louisville.

459
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.519
I say that all the time.
Whenever they did that, whenever they

460
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:26.720
did that Netflix show Wrestlers, and
I was I did like a full day

461
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.319
of filming with them, with me
and with Matt and a few other people,

462
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.559
and you know, they kind of
talk to me about the Louisville side

463
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.359
of it, because they did obviously
a profile on Matt as far as just

464
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:38.720
you know, his career and him
turning CaSR into what it is. But

465
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.759
I really went above and beyond emphasizing
that it's different here than anywhere else.

466
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.359
Like I think people who live out
in those areas that it's mentioned, they

467
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.480
can't really relate to it like it
is here because there's so many of both.

468
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.119
And I know Louisville fans at times
get bothered by that, like they

469
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.279
assume that's but it's and I'm not
telling you it's fifty to fifty. But

470
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.839
like there's Kentucky fans everywhere in Louisville
like they are. And I know there

471
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.480
are people listening right now that work
with the other side of the rivalry.

472
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.920
Maybe they married into it, maybe
they have close friends that just throughout their

473
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.200
friendship, they just have always been
on the other side. Like because we're

474
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.920
all together, it makes a little
more intense. It's just different, you

475
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.160
know, And that's where the pettiness
really, I think, you know,

476
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.839
comes in and this is petty,
but I wouldn't have it any other way.

477
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.279
So if you remember when Pat Kelsey
got hired, the Louisville football spring

478
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.599
practice were going on, and he
went out and put on pads and was

479
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:34.400
catching you know, I think he
was catching punts like he was, you

480
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:38.880
know, doing some punt returning,
and he caught one pass like behind his

481
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.039
back and you know, just having
fun out there. And of course the

482
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.680
internet loved it. There was videos
that made their way to social media.

483
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.000
I'm pretty sure some of the football
staffers were sharing it, and it was

484
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.440
just, you know, Pat Kelsey
having fun supporting the football team, kind

485
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:57.279
of showing us a little bit of
his personality. Well then Mark Stoops,

486
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:02.039
not Mark Stuis, but Mark Pope
did the same thing. I guess yesterday

487
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:06.680
or something, and you know,
Kentucky fans are sharing it and you know,

488
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.799
look at Mark Pope, He's so
great, just like Louisville fans did

489
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.680
with Pat Kelsey. But now Louisvill
fans are like, oh my gosh,

490
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:18.000
he wants to be Pat Kelsey so
much like Wow, I think I've seen

491
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.960
this somewhere before. Wow. Imitation
is flattering, like like that's so petty

492
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:29.480
and silly, but like that's what
this is. And this has helped me

493
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.720
at times not really get into the
weeds with the other side. And I

494
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.119
don't mean like because you know,
they're awful people, but I'm one.

495
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:38.359
I'm never gonna change your mind.
You're never gonna change my mind. We

496
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:42.359
can argue and and you know,
but like there's no scenario if you're a

497
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:47.000
dowhard fan of one that a good
talk or an argument or a you know,

498
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.039
yelling match with your buddy who's the
fan of the other, Like you're

499
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.799
never gonna like, you know what, you were right all these years.

500
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:53.880
I'm actually I'm gonna start supporting Kentucky
because you know you were right. They're

501
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:57.640
better. Not only would that never
happen you you wouldn't want that, right,

502
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.160
Like, if my best friend,
who a diwhard Kentucky fan, just

503
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.200
decided to be a Louisville fan,
I would say, gross, no,

504
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:06.119
you're not doing that. Get the
hell out of here. That'll actually ruin

505
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:07.440
our friendship. Say what you want
about Louisville, you're not coming over to

506
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.680
this side because that's just weird.
So that's just the way it is.

507
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:15.079
But another thing that has helped me
just kind of, you know, keep

508
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.200
my sanity with it and have fun
with it is that, if you really

509
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:25.680
think about it, we make fun
of the other for doing anything, and

510
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.240
if we did it, we would
love it, you know, Like the

511
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:35.559
Pat Kelsey in Louisville basketball video of
the transfer portal. The reaction that I

512
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.160
saw most on the internet from that
was Kentucky fans making fun of it.

513
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:43.279
But if Mark Pope did it,
Louisville fans would be making fun of them,

514
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.680
and Kentucky fans will be talking about
how awesome it is, how relatable

515
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:50.200
he is. Like that's just how
this is, and it you know,

516
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.359
when you lay it out like that, it sounds kind of silly, but

517
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:54.519
again that's what's sports is not really, I mean it is serious, but

518
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:58.200
like you know what I mean,
Like it's just that's the way it works.

519
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:01.240
Are you envious of this, John, because you can't relate. You

520
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:06.039
probably are more healthy mentally when it
comes to your team than us, because

521
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.480
you know, we were always at
each other's next. Yeah. I think

522
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:14.000
there's a part of me that's envious
because during the times whenever the games are

523
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.240
going on, Like I remember being
in my family's house for specifically the Louisvill

524
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:21.440
Kentucky football game last year, and
just the tension was something that I hadn't

525
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.359
experienced in a while, being around
a different fan base that was my rival,

526
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:29.960
and even as an outsider, you
could sense it. Yeah. But

527
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:31.799
one thing I wish I could have
seen. I was already here getting ready

528
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:35.559
for the postgame show with you before
you know, the end of the game

529
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.759
actually happened. I would have loved
to have just seen the deflation from one

530
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.240
fan base and the elation from the
other, because it's just one thing you

531
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.240
don't get exactly what it was,
the rivalries. Yeah, And I mean

532
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.839
if if Kentucky and Louisville, well, first of all, they could not

533
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:53.519
play each other in sports, and
we would still be rivals. And we

534
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:58.119
would still talk smack to each other. It wouldn't end the rivalry. I

535
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.279
don't think you can in the rivalry, but not playing your rival would be

536
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.119
it would It would take away so
much from what makes all this fun.

537
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.320
And that's why, Like, if
there's ever a scenario where Louisville and Kentucky

538
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:13.840
don't play each other in football because
the SEC schedule expanding, like that would

539
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:15.519
be that would be the war.
I mean, that would that would be

540
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.119
a lot of things, but it
would be weak and it would be a

541
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.000
slap in the face to Kentucky fans
by their administration because they don't mean nobody

542
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:28.400
wants this game to not happen.
Some will tell you, well, you

543
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.760
know, there's just one game who
cares. But I don't even know if

544
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.480
I mean, I don't even believe
that you believe that because like that,

545
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.320
like Kentucky fans are the liars if
they act as if beating Louisville the way

546
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:42.440
they have in the last six seven
years, however long it's been, it

547
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:46.400
has changed how you view yourself and
your coach. So like if you had

548
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:51.719
if you would have beaten I don't
know, let's say it was an annual

549
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:57.639
game you played against a non rival. Let's say you beat West Virginia every

550
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:02.159
year or Indiana. It you wouldn't
It wouldn't be the same at all,

551
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:07.079
and you would honestly feel underwhelmed.
I would imagine, like not saying Louisville

552
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:12.239
is your super Bowl, but beating
your rival has more value than beating other

553
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.360
teams. Now, maybe not as
much if like you're beating but last year

554
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.719
Kentucky beat a Louisville team on the
road, which was an upset, and

555
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:21.880
it was a top ten win for
him. By the way, did you

556
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.400
know Indiana and Louisville or Indiana and
Kentucky used to play for a trophy in

557
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.760
football? I knew they played.
I remember as a kid seeing a lot

558
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.039
of those games, and I remember
the joke even as a kid, not

559
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:31.719
for me, but like you know, adults and parents and stuff like,

560
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:36.400
was how bad both programs always weren't
football? What was the trophy? The

561
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.480
bourbon barrel? And I think the
part of why they quit doing it was

562
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:45.079
because of the trophy was associated with
alcohol. Oh that's right, because that

563
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:49.840
was right around the time there was
a there was an alcohol related incident that

564
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.039
that someone lost their life. I
think I might have been a Kentucky football

565
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.960
player somebody. Something within the Kentucky
football program happened to where alcohol was involved.

566
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.880
And I remember that even as I
was young when that happened at our

567
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.639
remember that being a story. They
should play each other, why not?

568
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:07.440
Right? So fun fact they were
when Indiana played Tennessee and the Gator Bowl

569
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.760
that was supposed to be an Indiana
Kentucky matchup, but Tennessee fans in their

570
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:15.079
administration vouched for the volunteers to be
in that game over Kentucky. And that's

571
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.360
how that happened. I guess they
just expected to clearly be a bigger turnout

572
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.039
because it's in Tennessee. All right, we got to run quick break.

573
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:22.920
We'll come back and wrap it up
on the other side. Keep it locked

574
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:29.920
right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Some people don't get to tune in

575
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.159
until, you know, the five
o'clock hour, even maybe closer to five

576
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:36.880
thirty. And if that's the case, you know, I appreciate you listening

577
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.079
whenever you can, but always check
out the podcast. I mean, that's

578
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:43.440
something that is there for you.
No excuse to not listen to the whole

579
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.199
thing. You may not get it
live, but you can always you can

580
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.760
always go back and listen anything you
missed. We usually have it up within

581
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.599
the within the fifteen minutes or so
after the show ends, so it's on

582
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.679
the iHeartRadio app. Find it on
the Apple podcast app as well. All

583
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.400
Right, so real quick, we
talked a lot about the the I guess

584
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.000
it was Justin Edwards, who,
by the way, I'll give him credit.

585
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.920
We talked about him having a dud
at the the in his first Summer

586
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:13.039
League game after going on drafted.
He apparently played pretty well last night,

587
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:16.000
put up some good numbers and really
bounced back. But that led to just

588
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:21.239
a bigger conversation just about how a
lot of times these you know, these

589
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:25.800
athletes are these these rankings that you
see from twenty four seven sports rivals,

590
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.199
like they're just way off. And
I think it's safe to say that that

591
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:38.440
potentially, that potentially happened in this
class, because if you go to let's

592
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:44.760
see in twenty twenty, twenty twenty, here is the top like here is

593
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.599
the top ten players. Kate Cunningham, I think it's safe to say he

594
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.039
worked out. I mean, he
just signed a huge deal with Detroit and

595
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.960
they're not winning, but I can't
blame it on him. Jalen Green decent

596
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:59.440
season in Houston. I think it's
yet to be determined if he ends up

597
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.519
being worth the samecond pick that he
was taken in Evan Mobley decent player,

598
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.840
good in the NBA. Suppose Jonathan
Minga still an unknown. Here's where it

599
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.559
gets real, like Brandon Boston number
five player in America, Zire Williams number

600
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.519
six, Scottie Barnes number seven,
rip Terrence Clark number eight. But then

601
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:21.719
you get to Moosa. Cisa went
to Memphis, no clue. Greg Brown

602
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.079
at Texas mighta sniffed the NBA.
Jalen Suggs kind of an average player at

603
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:31.719
best. Josh Christopher forgot about him. Jalen Johnson duke bust, Haleb Love

604
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:37.599
still playing, day Ron Sharp kind
of a bust. Jaden Springer at Tennessee.

605
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:38.679
I think he could say the same
thing. So, you know,

606
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:42.159
I'm sure if you go back and
look at every class, you'll realize that,

607
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.719
you know, sometimes they get it
right, sometimes you know they don't,

608
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:46.840
and guys just don't have the potential
that they were believed to have when

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they were coming up out of high
school. All right, we're out of

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time. Everybody. Enjoy your Thursday
evening and come back and join us tomorrow

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right here at three o'clock on Sports
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