Justin Recla is an Army veteran and former counter intelligence agent. Now he's a
chief operating officer and what I'd like to call it the Chief Seeker of the
Superpower Experts. It's a network of programming that focuses on personal development, spirituality
and inspiration. And his message simple, help others do things better and have
self dominion in everything that you do. Welcome back to another episode of The
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Karen not with us at this time, Justin, I could not be more
excited to have you on the show. Thanks for coming on, Thanks for
having me, and I look forward to the conversation me too. I need
to ask first and foremost, right off the bat, superpower experts, what
does that mean? Exactly? Quite the backstory on superpower experts for those that
don't know, My wife and I are both former counter intelligence agents with the
US government, and if we like to joke around, it's like we're here
from the government and we like, we're here to tell you that superpowers are
real, but it's really superpowers was the essentially the spiritual guidance that was given
through to Tonia when we left government. When we left government, we had
stepped out in the world and we started our own corporate counter intelligence firm,
doing background checks, risk mitigation, and due diligence for B to B transactions.
But along the way, we found ourselves coaching other people CEOs and so
forth, and helping them stand in their own dominions. So essentially they didn't
have to hire our firm because we were empowering them to do exactly what we
were doing for them as a service. While we were happy to take their
money, we were really more focused on wanting to bring about change and get
people to think about business differently. But along the way that created a coaching
platform that was just originally just Tonia and I we called ourselves personal power Experts,
and after the fact we learned that Tony Robbins has actually got the copyright
on for all things personal power. So it was timely when Tonia got the
information, like she literally had a that she She's like, what are we
doing? Hear? And she just went she turned to the divine and turned
to prayer and in the next thing she heard was superpowers and she's like,
okay, but what why and which she was given the guidance to help awaken
the masses and superpowers was just how it came about. And yeah, we
actually talked about real life superpowers, mind reading, psychic ability, intuition,
empathy, and some cat two level stuff that that just came through as her
body of work from being a social scientist and understanding people and in group out
group dynamics and everything that we also did as as agents, we've encompassed into
our platform and so it's been birthed as Superpowers and Superpower Experts in the Superpower
Network is a collaborative coaching model because we recognize that we don't have all the
answers, and so we do it with the team. We broadcast our network
out and a frequency that's designed to offset the lower vibrations of mass media,
and we recognize that when we can work together and collaborate with one another,
that coming together and this person hits their circle, this person hits their circle.
Working together, we're having an impact. So I love the fact that
you just said it's a counter programming to the mass media, because I mean,
that's really what when I'm looking at your website and looked at your programs,
you really are focused in raising consciousness, helping society wake up to the
realities of why we're here, a spirituality, whatever you want to call it,
And a lot of the shows are very specific to certain modalities, and
your whole famili's involved in this. Right, it's not just you and your
partner, but your daughter is also part of it also, right, Yeah,
our daughter Lee Reckless, she's been bit in business since she was too
When when Tony and I left government, we meet a pact that we weren't
going to do anything that would not allow her to participate, and so we
were very selective in where we participated and were very blessed to have found several
business communities that we became a part of and started mentoring at and teaching at
and she said it in all the classes, she just absorbed thes she got
to learn from people like Bob Proctor, and Les Brown and Bernie Dorman and
some really powerhouses in the personal development field encompassed around this business concept and I
love it. She recently just did an interview on ABC News and she said
that, you know, she uses business as her modality of helping make an
impact on people's lives. And you know, we're very blessed that it's not
just that Tony and I helped raise her, but we had a good community
that helped us do it. And she's twelve, and she oversees our internship
program and oversees two of our production teams for the network as well, and
and she's also coached. She does a parent parent midtering and as part of
our community membership, she is doing her program I'm out of the program called
kid Clarity, where parents can come talk to her and get some insights from
a kid's perspective on how to build and manage relationship with thrown kids. Wow,
that is fantastic on so many different levels. First and foremost, the
fact that you've got a twelve year old who is self aware enough to be
able to provide insight in that at that level to to to adults who grown
ups. But also they say that kids are a lot closer to the to
the veil the mysteries of life. Right, So it's it's super intuitive,
but not a lot of people pull a trigger, so to speak, on
having their children kind of help them along under spiritual journey. When in essence,
I mean, you hear all the time that kids see spirits they talk
to imagine they friends who people are saying are actually spirits or spirit guides.
They're much more psychic than growing ups because life gets in the way. So
how she exhibited a lot of these things. Well, like you said,
kids are so more closely aligned with the divine and the universe, you know,
spirit whatever you want to call it, on our abilities as as humans,
right, and what's possible. When I was growing up, I had
a lot of abilities that I didn't know what they were, or how they
were, or what they were, why I was seeing things, why I
was hearing things. I would I would see dead people, I would see
ghosts, and I had all these things. And my parents, God bless
them, you know, did the best they could and I think this is
the case with a lot of people nowadays, is that you just don't know
what You just don't know. And I had no framework, and my parents
weren't religious, enoughture and weren't spiritual enough to be able to understand it,
and the typical response of it's all in your head, right, And twenty
years later they apologized to me because they started to as they continued on their
own personal development, own journey and understanding of how things work, they started
seeing and experiencing some of the things that I saw as a kid, and
later learned that the house that I grew up in was a hospice home where
people went to die. So it all kind of like made sense and they
were able to see it. They apologized. But with Niva, I knew
that we had an opportunity to do something different and to tackle it head on.
And Tonia and I, and through our own experiences, through our own
understanding of the human psyche and how and why we function in all of that,
decided to nurture that. Rather than tell her it was on her head
or put it into a box over here, we helped her explore that because
of the very young age she saw things. She had the same abilities that
I had, and so rather than leave her alone to try to figure it
out, I would play in it with her and we would come into the
room and she'd be having full blown conversations with people and playing with their toys.
And we asked who she's talking to, and she's like, the white
people, they were glowing white, right, That's how she described And they're
glowing white. The white she was. She was talking to angels and having
conversations with them, and it became natural for her. And as she evolved
into who she is today, she's got a better understanding of how all that
works, and why that works, and how such abilities are just tools for
us to better understand ourselves. Right, it really doesn't matter what modality you
play in or what you call it, but it's worth exploring, so we
better understand those concepts. And she's mastered it, and she's twelve, and
she's integrated a lot of the stuff, and she still has experiences and things
and stuff, but not to the point of scary, but to the point
of inquiry, not for the why is this happening to me? It's scary,
but why is this happening for me? To explore what does it mean
for herself? Right that that is that's truly amazing. I think to your
point, most people will immediately run to the fear aspect of it, like,
oh, why is this happening to me? When in essence, especially
kids, I don't think they're afraid for the most part, unless they're taught
to be afraid. And that's that's where we've gone wrong, because we've learned
over I don't know how many years to fear the unknown that the mass media
starts, you know, feeding us all the stories of the hauntings and the
horror stories and stuff. So we developed this fear and we pass it on
to our kids. So it's it's amazing and I'll say it again that that
you had the forethought to say, no, this this, this is an
opportunity for us to involve our daughter in something that that makes perfect sense.
Now taking a look at if you're if you're only listening to the show,
you're not watching this on YouTube, You're you're only getting half the story because
Justin does not like you do, not embody the typical. But someone says
this person is spiritual or goes along the sees spirits or channels, or they
don't necessarily think of someone that looks like you. What do you consider yourself?
What are your superpowers? I have a couple of One of my most
powerful superpowers is something that I've dubbed intelligence transferrings. I'm able to take this
information over here of what somebody puts into or describes as this modality, and
I'm able to overlay it and translate it into other things that people can identify
with and how it's received. So oftentimes when we when we talk about something,
if it's not in a vernacular or in a construct we're familiar with,
people will will shut it. Although they'll they'll turn away from it. They
don't they don't understand it, they don't want to attempt to understand it.
I have the ability to be able to take information and translate it and filter
it down to where it can be consumed by people at a level which makes
sense for them, which has worked out really well business wise. Because my
wife Tonya, she she operates in the abstract. She is up in the
ether communing with God and bringing forth information that I get. I make sense
because I've been on the journey with her for so long, and together we've
been able to translate that information to where people understand it, and it's it's
very high vibe. And you're right, I don't look like the typical,
the typical wu Wu spiritual guy. You know. I tend to people,
you know, either get feel intimidated by me or curious. You know.
I go to get the oil changed the car at the car dealership, They're
like, I didn't teg you for driving a minivan, you know, And
I step out of it. But then we can gauge a conversation. It's
like, Oh, it's it's not the biker look. It's not he's you
know, he's not big and scary. It's it's there's a I'm very I'm
very certain that I was given this look for a very particular reason that I
look the way that I do so I can introduce some of these concepts that
we're delivering through the world of the body of work that we call superpowers and
and share that with others. And I think it's inviting to some to recognize
that, you know what, you could be a man, you could be
masculine. But at the end of the day, the only thing worth exploring
is your own consciousness and your relationship to the vine and whatever that looks like
for you. It's only worthwhile winter that we are that we have on this
planet. And I think that's why I look the way I do. So
people go, you know what, that guy can do it, then I
can do it. Yeah, yeah, great point. We've been told time
and time again you can't judge a book, but it's cover and all that
kind of stuff. This this is good for everybody. Doesn't matter what you
look like, what color your skin, whether you're male or female. This
is all stuff that we're all going through, right, We're all going through
this spiritual awakening, and it doesn't matter who you are. This means you,
right, it's you too, right, It's not the other guy or
the other girl. It's you. And no matter what you look like or
how you live, this is important stuff to get through. So you used
to be counterintelligence agents. So I've got to ask the question, because I'm
sure you've gotten a thousand times. Do you know all the secrets? You
know? If I would, I probably wouldn't be able to be here talking,
right, But let me assure you this is part of the part of
the reason why we ended up breaking off and doing our own thing and what
we eventually left government was at the time Tony and I were civilians who our
careers as agents were done, but we were now contractors as serving as teachers,
and we were training new agents and putting them into the field. Between
Tony and I that we trump probably changed a train to four or five thousand
agents that we put into the field over over the over the six or seven
years that we were there together. In at one point in time, the
military had come to Tonia to ask her to write a critical thinking class because
her because she had a master's degree. She joined the military when she was
twenty seven with a master's degree and had had studied in things like critical thinking
and so forth, and the military had recognized that, you know what,
there's time, it's time for us to do things differently. We need to
start training critical thinking to our agents. And in that it was a five
day course and we taught things like in group about group dynamics, ego deconstruction,
right, this theory, you know, NLP, all of the things
that were tools that are designed to help us understand who we are because in
the field, as an agent, if your ego gets in the way,
you're either going to get yourself killed, or you're going to get your source
killed, and you're going to fail the mission, right, And so we
were teaching them how to come into a level of their own self awareness.
It was at that point in time that Tony and I kind of realized,
Wow, this is bigger than us, that we can't just share this with
them. We have to take this out to the world. And that's what
started our entrepreneurial journey. But along the way we worked with some really cool
people. I don't know if you're familiar with it or not. I've talked
about this before in the past and other shows, but Project Stargate a class.
It was a classified program that the government used. It was a remote
viewing program that the government was using remote viewers viewers to pinpoint locations of Russian
subs off the coast of Cuba, and during the height of cult of the
Cold War, we actually worked with some of the very first remote viewers that
were part of that program. They were teaching at the counter Intelligence Special Agents
course. And through that, through my own desire to better understand I've I've
been seeking my entire life. I've been in and out of you know,
studying different religions. I've you know, and understanding religion and how that works,
and spirituality combined with the metaphysical and who I studied all of that,
and then here I was working with the government alongside people who had taken the
metaphysical and we're using it as a tool for the military. So it had
substance for me, and so I dove in even further. I studied things
like to road cards and remote viewing. I had studied all of that and
saw that, oh wow, this is bigger. And so that combined with
what we were teaching in the personal development space, the human psyche of understanding
what makes us ticked, and connection with the spirituality and the metaphysical. That's
kind of like what describes what superpowers are. It's all of that wrapped into
one to serve one purpose, to bring people into their own consciousness and awareness
of who they are and remind them of that and who they are. The
world product is Stargate. I think it was. I've heard it called something
else, but it were you privy to remote viewing experiments like, well,
you do you see it happen? Are you No? I've experienced it myself.
I came I came into a connection. By the time product Stargate got
shut down, I think it was in the mid seventies or early seventies.
But the gentlemen that were part of it and were contributed to that program,
it actually ended going on to create their own course, their own remote viewing
course, and so I studied some of the information they shared with me,
they shared with a couple of the other instructors that were interested in such things,
and so I learned how to to remote view and the military's version of
remote viewing requires requires two people a viewer in the recorder to record the events.
There's there's different modalities of remote viewing, but the method that that the
military used, at least the ones I thought I was shown and taught were
very specific for very detailed reasons and so forth. But I was unfortunately I'm
not that I'm a little bit young for the bit to it, but participated
in starting itself. But the fact that you know, for me, it
was the fact that the government was exploring such things gave validity to validity to
to the metaphysical that allowed me to want and you know, wanted me to
gave me the opportunity to dive into those even more. Right, right,
makes sense? Now, way, what's what's the difference between remote viewing and
astral projection or are the same thing. My understanding if a actual projection is
is that actual projections like you're actually actually taking and going somewhere with your spirit,
your energy and so forth, whereas remote viewing is you're just looking at
things. And the way it was explained to me is the concept of the
matrix, the idea of the matrix, the movie the matrix, and so
forth. It's got a lot of different roots, but the term itself,
from what I understand, actually originated in Project Stargate, because they used the
term the matrix as the energetic field, the grid, the energetic grid that
surrounds the Earth that allows remote viewers to tap into to be able to go
and transfer different places. And so the term the matrix, from my understanding
at least, originated from Project Stargate. And then of course it's been taken
and used and shared and done you know, all other places. But that's
at least how they used it in the Project Stargate. Wow, that's amazing.
We need to take a quick break, but we'll be right back with
more amazing conversation on the Skeptic Metaphysicians. For someone that wants to start looking
into this kind of thing, who is curious about spirituality, or is curious
about spiritual development or personal development or essentially awakening, whatever you want to call
it. What's the best way in your estimation for someone to do that.
Start seeking, you know, start asking questions. First and foremost, the
easiest thing for you to do is that everything in your own life, instead
of looking at it through a victim leans, ask yourself, why is this
happening for me? And just asking that one question in everything that you do,
every moment of every day will start to start. We'll start to train
the synopsis in your brain. Start looking at seeing the world differently. Start
reading books, go through go through all the go through all the classics.
Right they can grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, right Outwitting the Devil, all
of anything that piques your interest. Pick a topic, it doesn't matter,
but just start studying, start exploring. You can go listen to go listen
to a pick pick one of the shows on the super Power Network and start
just listen to one episode today because the conversations that are being had there are
in a different frequency, in a different way of viewing an experience life.
And the network is really designing to attune people to a hire frequency to get
into the place that supports their own seeking. You bring up your network,
and I'm glad that you did because I love to dive a little bit further
into it. I'm looking at your website right now, and you've got I'm
looking at all the programs that you have, and you have a vast amount
of programs and each one is different from sex, love and Superpowers to your
daughter's Superpower Kids. Right, we can change the world. You've got we
Rise, You've got Superpower and business like you have, You've cover so many
different topics. Like you to your point, there are different vibrations for each
one. Is there something for everyone? Superpowered Mamas? Is there something for
everyone on this network? Yeah. If you're seeking and you're wanting to explore
different realities, you're going to explore the metaphysical. If you're wanting to explore
your own consciousness, We've got to show for it. We've got a high
frequency Healing which deals with different three different healing modalities. We've got Superpowered Mamas,
which takes a different perspective on raising conscious children. We've got Your super
Powered Mind, which our host Kristen Maxwell, she's she's she's a trained attorney,
she's she's a lawyer, and she's exploring consciousness and how we how our
mind works, and how it all interacts and how it's all connected. And
she explores it from people that like to think right. They consider themselves thinkers
first, and so thinkers go listen to go listen to your Superpowered Mind to
where is If you want or if you want to explore, if you want
to explore the way wo and thought leaders and things that are pushing the edge,
go listen to the Science Superpowers. That's Tony's show. She's she's having
conversations with people that are that are pushing the edges of known reality. And
and if you've got a family, you're married, and you want to know
how how to how you navigate these spaces and you have these as conversations as
a family, go listen to our family show Reclamation. We're at twenty four
to seven family and we've dubbed ourselves the first Family of Inspired Personal Development because
it's not just spiritual growth, it's not just personal development, it's inspired personal
development right, using spirit, divine God, the universe as the foundation on
which we explore our own consciousness because in that the sky's limit. I listen
to so many shows that when I look at your site, and I've subscribed
to a few of your shows because I've found them fascinating, but there's so
much that it would take me the rest of my life to listen to all
your shows. Because you do have some amazing, amazing programming. But if
someone's like just starting out, where would you direct them? Where do they
start? Because cosmic consciousness sounds amazing, High frequency healing sounds amazing. I'm
really interested in listening to your wife's show because that I'm all about pushing reality
and all that kind of stuff. But I'm at a certain level. I've
been looking into this stuff I've been seeking for quite a while. But a
lot of folks that are listening to this show specifically, are not one hundred
percent there, right. They maybe like me, they maybe they want to
believe, but they don't know for sure whether this stuff is real or in
their minds, or you know, they're afraid of the wou like we talked
about, but they really want to start exploring and when you look at someone
and says cosmic consciousness, it could be a little intimidating. So do you
have something that you would recommend if you're brand new to this stuff. Here's
here's where you start. Well, you know, it's funny because there are
there are so many starting points to take into consideration, right because my you
know, some of my experience, for instance, came from you know,
I started off in the church and then left the church, studied religion,
understood religion, and then found my way back to Christ two years ago when
I was baptized with my daughter. And along the way, I've incorporated to
row cards, remote viewing, you know, I talked to go I channel,
I've incorporated all of those things as tools to understanding my relationship with Divine
with nothing but a desire to understand myself and my relationship with God. And
so it really depends on where you're coming from. Somebody like you, you've
been seeking for a while, you understand some of these higher concepts, so
you can probably dive right into like the show disrupt Reality Caused and consciousness and
the science superpowers right for somebody else, Depending on where you're starting, if
you're growing out growing the constructed religion in itself. Start looking other places that
really really start studying a framework for what's possible outside of the boxes that have
been created by religion. Right explorts Wayne Dyer's stuff is amazing. Read some
of his stuff. It's it's it's great entry way into understanding what's beyond.
Look at look at some of Deepak Chopra's early stuff. But they're Jesus right,
that's some great stuff there. Napoleon Hill really ties in that person of
filament aspect as well. Start looking and start reading, just finding things that
resonate with you. Recognizing that every modality, everything is saying the exact same
thing. Just using different vernacular, finds something that works and resonates for you.
For our shows, your business minded, go go to incorporating Superpowers.
You'll see we keep things that it's at the business level, right, it's
real world stuff. It's talking with people that are doing things different, but
the conversations that are being had are from a different construct, from a different
perspective on how to do business. Right. Go watch Navas show her,
Go watch her old her old Superpower kids shows, and you can kind of
see some of the silliness that's wrapped up and in playfulness from a kid's perspective.
Right, if you want to get real, go go listen to the
Reclamation Show, because we get wrong, we get real, we get we're
talking and transparency and some of the stuff that we have been through ourselves as
a family and what that looks like. But the best place to start open
a book, listen something different. More importantly, open your mind to the
fact that there's something else, bigger out there in that whatever the mass media
has been feeding you, whatever social media has been feeding you, that's all
programming designed to do one thing, and that's to keep you in your small
self and limit who you actually are in the world. It's funny you mentioned
people like Napoleon Hill and things like that, not that people don't realize that
that type of concept, the concepts they were branding about, is very mired
in the spiritual and the and the consciousness awakening. They just think, well,
this is a self improvement or motivational for business type of thing, when
in essence they're using law, manifestation and all that kind of stuff in their
teachings. I mean it is. It is really accessible if you just recognize
it for what it is. Yeah, don't be afraid. Have the courage,
to have the courage just to start exploring, have the conversations, right,
you know, I love the backstory that you shared with me in your
own journey and the how you've got the actual proof of oh wow, this
is actually real. Right, and and oftentimes in all times, and in
the movie The Matrix, right when I'm going through it again, because I'm
gear enough to watch the new one that's coming out here this year, the
new series, Right, I've good ready to watch it. Well, because
it's exactly Resistance. And when you know, when Neo goes into the MAKESFX
for Tommy comes out of the construct after fighting fighting Morpheus, right, he
goes it's blood. Right, It's like I didn't think it was real.
It's like, well, your mind makes it real. If you don't take
anything else away from that movie, but that right there, it's your mind
that makes it real. Belief is everything, right, Science, science has
proven that the desk that I'm sitting in front in front of, right,
that I'm sitting behind right now, I can touch it. But science has
proven that there's more empty space in this desk than there is actual matter.
So how is it then that I can touch it? Well, folks,
that that's the matrix. That's kind of how it works. Why is it
solid? Because I believe in my subconscious programming, through social programming, through
everything, that it's real. But if I were to train myself to believe
that it's not and every ounce of my being, I could probably put my
hand through it. But I had had to believe it all of me to
do such. I mean, you bring up things that Yogis in India have
been doing for so many years, right to hear stories of people levitating.
We interviewed a gentleman who was telling us about one of his masters was able
to secrete water from his hands, or had fire coming into his hands,
all these different superpowers. I guess, for lack of a better word,
they feel it as a nuisance. It's just a secondary side effect to the
road to their self enlightenment. We just did an interview with someone who had
a near death experience, and her experience was one a very devout Catholic woman
who had been taught that if she was bad, she was going to hell.
She was good, she was going to heaven, and when she was
put into a coma because of a health issue that she had. She ended
up going to hell because that's what she expected that would be what's happened.
So she experienced all these terrible things in her end, and then when she
started changing her thought process to one of more aligned with God, she ended
up being shot up into heaven, at which point she was told no,
no, you've got much too much work to do. You got to go
back. Or Her whole message was I created that you don't have to go
to hell. Right, if you don't believe that you're going to go to
hell when you die, you won't. But you have to really truly know
that when you die, this is what happens. Right. We talked about
what dreams may come the book and the movie that when you die, they
everyone had their own personal hell or their own personal heaven because for sure enough,
whatever you believe is one hundred percent real for you. Right, Well,
yeah, that's that's my concept of hell is is slightly. I don't
think you have to wait for it. I think most people live in existence
that is hell because they get up every morning and go to their nine to
five job rates and repeat. They might see their family on the weekends and
then they they're just waiting to die, or they're waiting for some miracle,
maybe hitting the power ball. Whatever it is, right, and it may
not be they You might have a great life, but even in just small
things like getting into a fight with your spouse, and it's the same fight
over and over, it's a hell loop. Right. The behaviors don't change,
right, the reality doesn't change, the constructs don't change. Your friends
don't change. And this person is not nice, and this person never says
anything. This person we create these own hell loops because it's our program when
we don't understand why. And my belief is that we create these hell loops
for ourselves. And Jesus even said, right, the kingdom is here and
now the kingdoms and you too shall do greater things than onne. Well,
if that's the case, and how come seven million Christians haven't been able or
how very many Christians are ever there there are? Right, haven't been able
to create heaven on earth? The promises is it's here now? Well,
it's because of the program that's reinforced. And when religions into a box,
it limits it and it's been sold as you have to wait to die in
order to go to heaven. That's not what Jesus said. Jesus said that
the Kingdom is here and now, which means that, Okay, if the
Kingdom is here and now and I'm not seeing it, which is heaven,
then that must mean I'm in hell and how do I get out? Wow?
That's that is a heck of a thought. So you started in religion,
moved away from it, looked into touau and national projection of remote viewing,
all that kind of stuff, and then found your way back. Were
baptized. But I'm hearing that religion is not really your thing, but rather
a spirituality. Right. So one of the messaging that I get all the
time from people who are uber religious is why are you looking into that stuff?
That all that stuff is the toroau, that's all the devil, that's
the devil's work. So how do you reconcile that within yourself? It's easy
because I've played in those areas. I understand that the terureau is just understanding
their arcana in the seventy two major arcana that make up the human psyche,
and that they aren't of the devil. They are just tools to remind us
of if this card comes up, then I should probably take a look at
that within my own psyche and understand why am I doing this, Why am
I seeing this, Where is this showing up in my life? And how
do I improve upon it? How do I come into awareness and harmony with
it. They're not tools to use to worship the devil. Right, God
created everything? Right, God created everything? Then how did we come to
tourou? Now A lot of people argue that that was man made. I
argue that they were tools that man used as a mechanism to better understand their
relationship with God. And that's it, and it's for me God. God
was God. God's not a choice. Salvation is God, but God is
not a choice. You can't remove God from reality. Right when we do,
we get the chaos. We get the chaos of the world. And
if we're stuck in our own personal hell because we removed God and we're left
to our own constructs, then how do we get out of that? Well,
One, we have to realign ourselves with the divine and then we have
to start understanding who we are, unprogramming our own behaviors, become more in
alignment with God and that purpose. Because when we do. Spirit guides us.
We don't have to. We don't have to do anything. I live
a very blessed life because of that, because I lean into spirit. I
trust God to do that for me. It was that the monarcer of Christ.
I accepted Christ because he gave us two rules, and the church threw
a whole bunch more on top of it. But the two rules that Christ
Christ gave to us right, love God, love each other. And the
only way that we can do that is understanding ourselves, understanding our biases,
understanding our own judgments, understanding our own fears, and coming into alignment and
a frequency of love that allows us to connect with everybody outside of the zone
A judgment says, if you're not me, then you're a big, bad
and scary because the fact of the matter is is that the people that we
see in our life are just a reflection of ourselves. And believe it or
not, when you work through those different layers, those people that you're seeing
in your reality, if those are types, no longer see, no longer
serve you, Those people just magically disappear and fade away from your life.
It's magic, you said a mouthful. I believe like you. I believe
that the toureau, all these things are tools. Right. The underlying message
in this show has always been that we're finding that we're all saying the same
thing in just using different words. The challenge comes when I've never made it
a secret that I'm not an organized religion type of guy. It just didn't
work for me. Didn't fit for me. If it fits for you,
wonderful. Where I have a challenge, though, is when someone says to
me or anyone, that this is the only route to take. And that's
where I start then unplugging because I know differently. I have spoken to a
lot of people that are on a very different path. I've spoken to people
that are on the complete opposite path, but their focus is be a good
person, be a good person, and help other people, because of the
end of the day, what you're doing is helping yourself. And we are
all one, right, We've all. Everyone talks about the fact we all
one, we all part of God, we all come from God, we
all come from the Divine and we you and I sitting across from our computers
to each other, we are the same person in a different personage. And
the sooner that we start realizing that the better off we're going to be.
That's yeah, well absolutely, and it's it's the idea that anybody else outside
of yourself, whether it be organized religion, friends, or shared beliefs,
whatever, can tell you who or what your relationship with God is is silly.
It's a personal relationship that you have to have. No one else can
tell you what that looks like. No one else can define that for you.
For me, I had that relationship connection with God through through Christ right,
but I'm not a believer that that's the only way. It's a tool,
it's what resonates with me. I can identify it. I see the
power in it, but I also pool from other things and why I'm able
to do what I do because I see the value in it. And that's
what in our community is really designed to do that. It's designed to support
those Regardless of what your walk is, whatever that path looks like, it's
a lot easier to do it alone, do it by yourself rather than alone
or find yourself amongst a big box church or religion that you don't fully agree
with, but to be able to get the support that you need in that
personal journey for yourself because it is just that it is, and I believe
it's lily that it's going to change the world. Is that personal, personal
journey with spirit with the divine that it's going to bring us closer together in
unity? Yep, I couldn't agree with you more. I salute you for
what you're doing with your community, because you do have a lot for a
lot of people, and you guys are doing a lot of great things for
a lot of folks. So thank you for putting it out there. Thank
you for coming on the show. If someone wants to reach out to you
or experience their community, what's the best way to do it? Best way
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Just say time in and say hey, I want to connect with Justin
or go to the app. Download the app where you can stream all of
our content and our classes on the Superparer Network app. Just it's in the
app. Stort go to superpart dot com. Yeah, there's just so much
there, just so much there that we could. I mean, we do,
we dove down into each of the individual things that you offer on that
site. We would be here at least a month because it just there's just
so much I would I would encourage you to take a look for yourself.
There's a lot of really incredible resources right there that are readily available to anyone
who wants to So, Justin, I'm honored that you came on the show.
Thank you very much for coming on and spending some time with us something
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