WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:05.120 Justin Recla is an Army veteran and former counter intelligence agent. Now he's a 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:09.160 chief operating officer and what I'd like to call it the Chief Seeker of the 3 00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:14.080 Superpower Experts. It's a network of programming that focuses on personal development, spirituality 4 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:19.160 and inspiration. And his message simple, help others do things better and have 5 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:23.440 self dominion in everything that you do. Welcome back to another episode of The 6 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:30.239 Skeptic Metaphysician. My name is Will and unlike mulderin Scully, both want to 7 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:38.759 believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. Welcome to Skeptic Medicians 8 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:57.079 Classic. You are listening to the Classic Skeptic Metaphysicians. Welcome to Classic and 9 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:11.719 skeptics. Welcome to our version of a WALKDWN Memory Lane as we present classics 10 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:19.439 from the Skeptic Physician Library. Warts and all. Don't be sad, because 11 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:23.439 I'm sad enough for all of us. I am flying solo again today, 12 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.840 Karen not with us at this time, Justin, I could not be more 13 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.200 excited to have you on the show. Thanks for coming on, Thanks for 14 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.959 having me, and I look forward to the conversation me too. I need 15 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:40.000 to ask first and foremost, right off the bat, superpower experts, what 16 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:45.840 does that mean? Exactly? Quite the backstory on superpower experts for those that 17 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:49.239 don't know, My wife and I are both former counter intelligence agents with the 18 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:52.959 US government, and if we like to joke around, it's like we're here 19 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:55.640 from the government and we like, we're here to tell you that superpowers are 20 00:01:55.760 --> 00:02:02.040 real, but it's really superpowers was the essentially the spiritual guidance that was given 21 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:07.359 through to Tonia when we left government. When we left government, we had 22 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.479 stepped out in the world and we started our own corporate counter intelligence firm, 23 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:15.599 doing background checks, risk mitigation, and due diligence for B to B transactions. 24 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.800 But along the way, we found ourselves coaching other people CEOs and so 25 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.479 forth, and helping them stand in their own dominions. So essentially they didn't 26 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:29.960 have to hire our firm because we were empowering them to do exactly what we 27 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:32.439 were doing for them as a service. While we were happy to take their 28 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:37.800 money, we were really more focused on wanting to bring about change and get 29 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:42.840 people to think about business differently. But along the way that created a coaching 30 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:47.240 platform that was just originally just Tonia and I we called ourselves personal power Experts, 31 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:53.599 and after the fact we learned that Tony Robbins has actually got the copyright 32 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.520 on for all things personal power. So it was timely when Tonia got the 33 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:02.000 information, like she literally had a that she She's like, what are we 34 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:05.800 doing? Hear? And she just went she turned to the divine and turned 35 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:10.879 to prayer and in the next thing she heard was superpowers and she's like, 36 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:19.199 okay, but what why and which she was given the guidance to help awaken 37 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:24.120 the masses and superpowers was just how it came about. And yeah, we 38 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:29.680 actually talked about real life superpowers, mind reading, psychic ability, intuition, 39 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:34.800 empathy, and some cat two level stuff that that just came through as her 40 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:39.919 body of work from being a social scientist and understanding people and in group out 41 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:47.000 group dynamics and everything that we also did as as agents, we've encompassed into 42 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:53.840 our platform and so it's been birthed as Superpowers and Superpower Experts in the Superpower 43 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.479 Network is a collaborative coaching model because we recognize that we don't have all the 44 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.560 answers, and so we do it with the team. We broadcast our network 45 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:08.280 out and a frequency that's designed to offset the lower vibrations of mass media, 46 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:14.639 and we recognize that when we can work together and collaborate with one another, 47 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:19.000 that coming together and this person hits their circle, this person hits their circle. 48 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:24.800 Working together, we're having an impact. So I love the fact that 49 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:29.800 you just said it's a counter programming to the mass media, because I mean, 50 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:32.319 that's really what when I'm looking at your website and looked at your programs, 51 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:40.519 you really are focused in raising consciousness, helping society wake up to the 52 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:44.240 realities of why we're here, a spirituality, whatever you want to call it, 53 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:48.439 And a lot of the shows are very specific to certain modalities, and 54 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:54.600 your whole famili's involved in this. Right, it's not just you and your 55 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.560 partner, but your daughter is also part of it also, right, Yeah, 56 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:02.199 our daughter Lee Reckless, she's been bit in business since she was too 57 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:05.959 When when Tony and I left government, we meet a pact that we weren't 58 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:11.879 going to do anything that would not allow her to participate, and so we 59 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:17.199 were very selective in where we participated and were very blessed to have found several 60 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:23.759 business communities that we became a part of and started mentoring at and teaching at 61 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:28.720 and she said it in all the classes, she just absorbed thes she got 62 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:32.079 to learn from people like Bob Proctor, and Les Brown and Bernie Dorman and 63 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:41.199 some really powerhouses in the personal development field encompassed around this business concept and I 64 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:45.279 love it. She recently just did an interview on ABC News and she said 65 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:50.680 that, you know, she uses business as her modality of helping make an 66 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:54.680 impact on people's lives. And you know, we're very blessed that it's not 67 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:57.600 just that Tony and I helped raise her, but we had a good community 68 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.680 that helped us do it. And she's twelve, and she oversees our internship 69 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:08.360 program and oversees two of our production teams for the network as well, and 70 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:13.319 and she's also coached. She does a parent parent midtering and as part of 71 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.360 our community membership, she is doing her program I'm out of the program called 72 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:20.800 kid Clarity, where parents can come talk to her and get some insights from 73 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:26.720 a kid's perspective on how to build and manage relationship with thrown kids. Wow, 74 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:30.839 that is fantastic on so many different levels. First and foremost, the 75 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.480 fact that you've got a twelve year old who is self aware enough to be 76 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:40.519 able to provide insight in that at that level to to to adults who grown 77 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:45.839 ups. But also they say that kids are a lot closer to the to 78 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:49.920 the veil the mysteries of life. Right, So it's it's super intuitive, 79 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:55.360 but not a lot of people pull a trigger, so to speak, on 80 00:06:55.560 --> 00:07:00.199 having their children kind of help them along under spiritual journey. When in essence, 81 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.920 I mean, you hear all the time that kids see spirits they talk 82 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:08.079 to imagine they friends who people are saying are actually spirits or spirit guides. 83 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:11.920 They're much more psychic than growing ups because life gets in the way. So 84 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:15.560 how she exhibited a lot of these things. Well, like you said, 85 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:20.639 kids are so more closely aligned with the divine and the universe, you know, 86 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:25.560 spirit whatever you want to call it, on our abilities as as humans, 87 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.639 right, and what's possible. When I was growing up, I had 88 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:34.079 a lot of abilities that I didn't know what they were, or how they 89 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:38.600 were, or what they were, why I was seeing things, why I 90 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:41.959 was hearing things. I would I would see dead people, I would see 91 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:46.120 ghosts, and I had all these things. And my parents, God bless 92 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:47.199 them, you know, did the best they could and I think this is 93 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:51.000 the case with a lot of people nowadays, is that you just don't know 94 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:56.120 what You just don't know. And I had no framework, and my parents 95 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.519 weren't religious, enoughture and weren't spiritual enough to be able to understand it, 96 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:05.399 and the typical response of it's all in your head, right, And twenty 97 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:09.879 years later they apologized to me because they started to as they continued on their 98 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.519 own personal development, own journey and understanding of how things work, they started 99 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.720 seeing and experiencing some of the things that I saw as a kid, and 100 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.879 later learned that the house that I grew up in was a hospice home where 101 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.480 people went to die. So it all kind of like made sense and they 102 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:31.120 were able to see it. They apologized. But with Niva, I knew 103 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:35.360 that we had an opportunity to do something different and to tackle it head on. 104 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.200 And Tonia and I, and through our own experiences, through our own 105 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.720 understanding of the human psyche and how and why we function in all of that, 106 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:52.039 decided to nurture that. Rather than tell her it was on her head 107 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.360 or put it into a box over here, we helped her explore that because 108 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.879 of the very young age she saw things. She had the same abilities that 109 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.399 I had, and so rather than leave her alone to try to figure it 110 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.840 out, I would play in it with her and we would come into the 111 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:16.159 room and she'd be having full blown conversations with people and playing with their toys. 112 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:20.159 And we asked who she's talking to, and she's like, the white 113 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.519 people, they were glowing white, right, That's how she described And they're 114 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:28.039 glowing white. The white she was. She was talking to angels and having 115 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:35.279 conversations with them, and it became natural for her. And as she evolved 116 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.720 into who she is today, she's got a better understanding of how all that 117 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:46.320 works, and why that works, and how such abilities are just tools for 118 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.519 us to better understand ourselves. Right, it really doesn't matter what modality you 119 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:54.759 play in or what you call it, but it's worth exploring, so we 120 00:09:54.879 --> 00:10:01.000 better understand those concepts. And she's mastered it, and she's twelve, and 121 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.000 she's integrated a lot of the stuff, and she still has experiences and things 122 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:07.879 and stuff, but not to the point of scary, but to the point 123 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.440 of inquiry, not for the why is this happening to me? It's scary, 124 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:15.720 but why is this happening for me? To explore what does it mean 125 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:20.080 for herself? Right that that is that's truly amazing. I think to your 126 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.480 point, most people will immediately run to the fear aspect of it, like, 127 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:24.960 oh, why is this happening to me? When in essence, especially 128 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:30.159 kids, I don't think they're afraid for the most part, unless they're taught 129 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:33.120 to be afraid. And that's that's where we've gone wrong, because we've learned 130 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.279 over I don't know how many years to fear the unknown that the mass media 131 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:39.600 starts, you know, feeding us all the stories of the hauntings and the 132 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.399 horror stories and stuff. So we developed this fear and we pass it on 133 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.120 to our kids. So it's it's amazing and I'll say it again that that 134 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:50.200 you had the forethought to say, no, this this, this is an 135 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:54.519 opportunity for us to involve our daughter in something that that makes perfect sense. 136 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:58.240 Now taking a look at if you're if you're only listening to the show, 137 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:03.000 you're not watching this on YouTube, You're you're only getting half the story because 138 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.200 Justin does not like you do, not embody the typical. But someone says 139 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:15.399 this person is spiritual or goes along the sees spirits or channels, or they 140 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.519 don't necessarily think of someone that looks like you. What do you consider yourself? 141 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:24.039 What are your superpowers? I have a couple of One of my most 142 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:31.679 powerful superpowers is something that I've dubbed intelligence transferrings. I'm able to take this 143 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:37.480 information over here of what somebody puts into or describes as this modality, and 144 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:43.840 I'm able to overlay it and translate it into other things that people can identify 145 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.240 with and how it's received. So oftentimes when we when we talk about something, 146 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.960 if it's not in a vernacular or in a construct we're familiar with, 147 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:56.039 people will will shut it. Although they'll they'll turn away from it. They 148 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:58.639 don't they don't understand it, they don't want to attempt to understand it. 149 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:03.799 I have the ability to be able to take information and translate it and filter 150 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:11.960 it down to where it can be consumed by people at a level which makes 151 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:15.600 sense for them, which has worked out really well business wise. Because my 152 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:20.480 wife Tonya, she she operates in the abstract. She is up in the 153 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:26.039 ether communing with God and bringing forth information that I get. I make sense 154 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:30.519 because I've been on the journey with her for so long, and together we've 155 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.960 been able to translate that information to where people understand it, and it's it's 156 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:37.679 very high vibe. And you're right, I don't look like the typical, 157 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:43.799 the typical wu Wu spiritual guy. You know. I tend to people, 158 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.840 you know, either get feel intimidated by me or curious. You know. 159 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.320 I go to get the oil changed the car at the car dealership, They're 160 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.600 like, I didn't teg you for driving a minivan, you know, And 161 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.840 I step out of it. But then we can gauge a conversation. It's 162 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.440 like, Oh, it's it's not the biker look. It's not he's you 163 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:07.080 know, he's not big and scary. It's it's there's a I'm very I'm 164 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:13.320 very certain that I was given this look for a very particular reason that I 165 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.600 look the way that I do so I can introduce some of these concepts that 166 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.679 we're delivering through the world of the body of work that we call superpowers and 167 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.799 and share that with others. And I think it's inviting to some to recognize 168 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.759 that, you know what, you could be a man, you could be 169 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:35.279 masculine. But at the end of the day, the only thing worth exploring 170 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.559 is your own consciousness and your relationship to the vine and whatever that looks like 171 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.080 for you. It's only worthwhile winter that we are that we have on this 172 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.200 planet. And I think that's why I look the way I do. So 173 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:48.559 people go, you know what, that guy can do it, then I 174 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.080 can do it. Yeah, yeah, great point. We've been told time 175 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.440 and time again you can't judge a book, but it's cover and all that 176 00:13:54.480 --> 00:14:00.320 kind of stuff. This this is good for everybody. Doesn't matter what you 177 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.720 look like, what color your skin, whether you're male or female. This 178 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.720 is all stuff that we're all going through, right, We're all going through 179 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.799 this spiritual awakening, and it doesn't matter who you are. This means you, 180 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.240 right, it's you too, right, It's not the other guy or 181 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.200 the other girl. It's you. And no matter what you look like or 182 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.559 how you live, this is important stuff to get through. So you used 183 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.440 to be counterintelligence agents. So I've got to ask the question, because I'm 184 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.120 sure you've gotten a thousand times. Do you know all the secrets? You 185 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:35.480 know? If I would, I probably wouldn't be able to be here talking, 186 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:41.159 right, But let me assure you this is part of the part of 187 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.120 the reason why we ended up breaking off and doing our own thing and what 188 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:48.559 we eventually left government was at the time Tony and I were civilians who our 189 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:54.000 careers as agents were done, but we were now contractors as serving as teachers, 190 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:58.879 and we were training new agents and putting them into the field. Between 191 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:01.679 Tony and I that we trump probably changed a train to four or five thousand 192 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.919 agents that we put into the field over over the over the six or seven 193 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:09.000 years that we were there together. In at one point in time, the 194 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:15.200 military had come to Tonia to ask her to write a critical thinking class because 195 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.120 her because she had a master's degree. She joined the military when she was 196 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.440 twenty seven with a master's degree and had had studied in things like critical thinking 197 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:26.360 and so forth, and the military had recognized that, you know what, 198 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.960 there's time, it's time for us to do things differently. We need to 199 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.360 start training critical thinking to our agents. And in that it was a five 200 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:39.399 day course and we taught things like in group about group dynamics, ego deconstruction, 201 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:43.600 right, this theory, you know, NLP, all of the things 202 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:48.480 that were tools that are designed to help us understand who we are because in 203 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.919 the field, as an agent, if your ego gets in the way, 204 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.519 you're either going to get yourself killed, or you're going to get your source 205 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:58.279 killed, and you're going to fail the mission, right, And so we 206 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:03.320 were teaching them how to come into a level of their own self awareness. 207 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.240 It was at that point in time that Tony and I kind of realized, 208 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:11.080 Wow, this is bigger than us, that we can't just share this with 209 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:12.559 them. We have to take this out to the world. And that's what 210 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:19.080 started our entrepreneurial journey. But along the way we worked with some really cool 211 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:22.879 people. I don't know if you're familiar with it or not. I've talked 212 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:27.039 about this before in the past and other shows, but Project Stargate a class. 213 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.080 It was a classified program that the government used. It was a remote 214 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:37.080 viewing program that the government was using remote viewers viewers to pinpoint locations of Russian 215 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:41.919 subs off the coast of Cuba, and during the height of cult of the 216 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:47.799 Cold War, we actually worked with some of the very first remote viewers that 217 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:51.000 were part of that program. They were teaching at the counter Intelligence Special Agents 218 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:56.559 course. And through that, through my own desire to better understand I've I've 219 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.799 been seeking my entire life. I've been in and out of you know, 220 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:04.119 studying different religions. I've you know, and understanding religion and how that works, 221 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:08.680 and spirituality combined with the metaphysical and who I studied all of that, 222 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:15.240 and then here I was working with the government alongside people who had taken the 223 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:19.079 metaphysical and we're using it as a tool for the military. So it had 224 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:25.839 substance for me, and so I dove in even further. I studied things 225 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.680 like to road cards and remote viewing. I had studied all of that and 226 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.720 saw that, oh wow, this is bigger. And so that combined with 227 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:41.119 what we were teaching in the personal development space, the human psyche of understanding 228 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:47.400 what makes us ticked, and connection with the spirituality and the metaphysical. That's 229 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:52.079 kind of like what describes what superpowers are. It's all of that wrapped into 230 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:56.519 one to serve one purpose, to bring people into their own consciousness and awareness 231 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:00.240 of who they are and remind them of that and who they are. The 232 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.640 world product is Stargate. I think it was. I've heard it called something 233 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:11.240 else, but it were you privy to remote viewing experiments like, well, 234 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:15.079 you do you see it happen? Are you No? I've experienced it myself. 235 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:19.480 I came I came into a connection. By the time product Stargate got 236 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:22.359 shut down, I think it was in the mid seventies or early seventies. 237 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:29.440 But the gentlemen that were part of it and were contributed to that program, 238 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:33.119 it actually ended going on to create their own course, their own remote viewing 239 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:37.640 course, and so I studied some of the information they shared with me, 240 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:41.799 they shared with a couple of the other instructors that were interested in such things, 241 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.160 and so I learned how to to remote view and the military's version of 242 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:52.319 remote viewing requires requires two people a viewer in the recorder to record the events. 243 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.079 There's there's different modalities of remote viewing, but the method that that the 244 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.160 military used, at least the ones I thought I was shown and taught were 245 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:04.359 very specific for very detailed reasons and so forth. But I was unfortunately I'm 246 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.599 not that I'm a little bit young for the bit to it, but participated 247 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:12.400 in starting itself. But the fact that you know, for me, it 248 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:18.440 was the fact that the government was exploring such things gave validity to validity to 249 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:23.839 to the metaphysical that allowed me to want and you know, wanted me to 250 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.960 gave me the opportunity to dive into those even more. Right, right, 251 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.480 makes sense? Now, way, what's what's the difference between remote viewing and 252 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:38.759 astral projection or are the same thing. My understanding if a actual projection is 253 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:45.839 is that actual projections like you're actually actually taking and going somewhere with your spirit, 254 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:49.079 your energy and so forth, whereas remote viewing is you're just looking at 255 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:52.319 things. And the way it was explained to me is the concept of the 256 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.559 matrix, the idea of the matrix, the movie the matrix, and so 257 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:59.759 forth. It's got a lot of different roots, but the term itself, 258 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.920 from what I understand, actually originated in Project Stargate, because they used the 259 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:07.839 term the matrix as the energetic field, the grid, the energetic grid that 260 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:11.880 surrounds the Earth that allows remote viewers to tap into to be able to go 261 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:15.000 and transfer different places. And so the term the matrix, from my understanding 262 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:19.519 at least, originated from Project Stargate. And then of course it's been taken 263 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:25.000 and used and shared and done you know, all other places. But that's 264 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:30.400 at least how they used it in the Project Stargate. Wow, that's amazing. 265 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:34.759 We need to take a quick break, but we'll be right back with 266 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:48.079 more amazing conversation on the Skeptic Metaphysicians. For someone that wants to start looking 267 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.839 into this kind of thing, who is curious about spirituality, or is curious 268 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:57.799 about spiritual development or personal development or essentially awakening, whatever you want to call 269 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:02.359 it. What's the best way in your estimation for someone to do that. 270 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.000 Start seeking, you know, start asking questions. First and foremost, the 271 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:11.240 easiest thing for you to do is that everything in your own life, instead 272 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.960 of looking at it through a victim leans, ask yourself, why is this 273 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:19.319 happening for me? And just asking that one question in everything that you do, 274 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.319 every moment of every day will start to start. We'll start to train 275 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:29.680 the synopsis in your brain. Start looking at seeing the world differently. Start 276 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.559 reading books, go through go through all the go through all the classics. 277 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.559 Right they can grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, right Outwitting the Devil, all 278 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:41.559 of anything that piques your interest. Pick a topic, it doesn't matter, 279 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:47.079 but just start studying, start exploring. You can go listen to go listen 280 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:49.880 to a pick pick one of the shows on the super Power Network and start 281 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:55.640 just listen to one episode today because the conversations that are being had there are 282 00:21:56.160 --> 00:22:00.480 in a different frequency, in a different way of viewing an experience life. 283 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.680 And the network is really designing to attune people to a hire frequency to get 284 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.440 into the place that supports their own seeking. You bring up your network, 285 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.000 and I'm glad that you did because I love to dive a little bit further 286 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.319 into it. I'm looking at your website right now, and you've got I'm 287 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:18.000 looking at all the programs that you have, and you have a vast amount 288 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:25.440 of programs and each one is different from sex, love and Superpowers to your 289 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:29.359 daughter's Superpower Kids. Right, we can change the world. You've got we 290 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:33.519 Rise, You've got Superpower and business like you have, You've cover so many 291 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:38.000 different topics. Like you to your point, there are different vibrations for each 292 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:44.279 one. Is there something for everyone? Superpowered Mamas? Is there something for 293 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:48.440 everyone on this network? Yeah. If you're seeking and you're wanting to explore 294 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.240 different realities, you're going to explore the metaphysical. If you're wanting to explore 295 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:56.880 your own consciousness, We've got to show for it. We've got a high 296 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:03.279 frequency Healing which deals with different three different healing modalities. We've got Superpowered Mamas, 297 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:08.079 which takes a different perspective on raising conscious children. We've got Your super 298 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:14.319 Powered Mind, which our host Kristen Maxwell, she's she's she's a trained attorney, 299 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:19.480 she's she's a lawyer, and she's exploring consciousness and how we how our 300 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:23.680 mind works, and how it all interacts and how it's all connected. And 301 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:29.640 she explores it from people that like to think right. They consider themselves thinkers 302 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:33.319 first, and so thinkers go listen to go listen to your Superpowered Mind to 303 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:36.640 where is If you want or if you want to explore, if you want 304 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:41.519 to explore the way wo and thought leaders and things that are pushing the edge, 305 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:45.400 go listen to the Science Superpowers. That's Tony's show. She's she's having 306 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:52.960 conversations with people that are that are pushing the edges of known reality. And 307 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:56.519 and if you've got a family, you're married, and you want to know 308 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.119 how how to how you navigate these spaces and you have these as conversations as 309 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:04.519 a family, go listen to our family show Reclamation. We're at twenty four 310 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:11.559 to seven family and we've dubbed ourselves the first Family of Inspired Personal Development because 311 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:18.599 it's not just spiritual growth, it's not just personal development, it's inspired personal 312 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:23.200 development right, using spirit, divine God, the universe as the foundation on 313 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:30.400 which we explore our own consciousness because in that the sky's limit. I listen 314 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:37.200 to so many shows that when I look at your site, and I've subscribed 315 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:41.839 to a few of your shows because I've found them fascinating, but there's so 316 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:47.960 much that it would take me the rest of my life to listen to all 317 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:52.920 your shows. Because you do have some amazing, amazing programming. But if 318 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:59.759 someone's like just starting out, where would you direct them? Where do they 319 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:03.839 start? Because cosmic consciousness sounds amazing, High frequency healing sounds amazing. I'm 320 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:11.680 really interested in listening to your wife's show because that I'm all about pushing reality 321 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:15.440 and all that kind of stuff. But I'm at a certain level. I've 322 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.839 been looking into this stuff I've been seeking for quite a while. But a 323 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.079 lot of folks that are listening to this show specifically, are not one hundred 324 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.359 percent there, right. They maybe like me, they maybe they want to 325 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:27.839 believe, but they don't know for sure whether this stuff is real or in 326 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:32.000 their minds, or you know, they're afraid of the wou like we talked 327 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:36.400 about, but they really want to start exploring and when you look at someone 328 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:41.359 and says cosmic consciousness, it could be a little intimidating. So do you 329 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.119 have something that you would recommend if you're brand new to this stuff. Here's 330 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.599 here's where you start. Well, you know, it's funny because there are 331 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.599 there are so many starting points to take into consideration, right because my you 332 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.839 know, some of my experience, for instance, came from you know, 333 00:25:55.839 --> 00:26:00.480 I started off in the church and then left the church, studied religion, 334 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:06.759 understood religion, and then found my way back to Christ two years ago when 335 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.240 I was baptized with my daughter. And along the way, I've incorporated to 336 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.200 row cards, remote viewing, you know, I talked to go I channel, 337 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:21.119 I've incorporated all of those things as tools to understanding my relationship with Divine 338 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:27.680 with nothing but a desire to understand myself and my relationship with God. And 339 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:32.079 so it really depends on where you're coming from. Somebody like you, you've 340 00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.680 been seeking for a while, you understand some of these higher concepts, so 341 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:40.640 you can probably dive right into like the show disrupt Reality Caused and consciousness and 342 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:45.039 the science superpowers right for somebody else, Depending on where you're starting, if 343 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:52.000 you're growing out growing the constructed religion in itself. Start looking other places that 344 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:57.599 really really start studying a framework for what's possible outside of the boxes that have 345 00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:04.599 been created by religion. Right explorts Wayne Dyer's stuff is amazing. Read some 346 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:12.119 of his stuff. It's it's it's great entry way into understanding what's beyond. 347 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.559 Look at look at some of Deepak Chopra's early stuff. But they're Jesus right, 348 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:19.720 that's some great stuff there. Napoleon Hill really ties in that person of 349 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:25.240 filament aspect as well. Start looking and start reading, just finding things that 350 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:33.480 resonate with you. Recognizing that every modality, everything is saying the exact same 351 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.799 thing. Just using different vernacular, finds something that works and resonates for you. 352 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.680 For our shows, your business minded, go go to incorporating Superpowers. 353 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.720 You'll see we keep things that it's at the business level, right, it's 354 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.559 real world stuff. It's talking with people that are doing things different, but 355 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.279 the conversations that are being had are from a different construct, from a different 356 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:03.240 perspective on how to do business. Right. Go watch Navas show her, 357 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.960 Go watch her old her old Superpower kids shows, and you can kind of 358 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.480 see some of the silliness that's wrapped up and in playfulness from a kid's perspective. 359 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:15.000 Right, if you want to get real, go go listen to the 360 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.000 Reclamation Show, because we get wrong, we get real, we get we're 361 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.799 talking and transparency and some of the stuff that we have been through ourselves as 362 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:27.799 a family and what that looks like. But the best place to start open 363 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:33.200 a book, listen something different. More importantly, open your mind to the 364 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.839 fact that there's something else, bigger out there in that whatever the mass media 365 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.200 has been feeding you, whatever social media has been feeding you, that's all 366 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.240 programming designed to do one thing, and that's to keep you in your small 367 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.519 self and limit who you actually are in the world. It's funny you mentioned 368 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:53.920 people like Napoleon Hill and things like that, not that people don't realize that 369 00:28:53.920 --> 00:29:00.079 that type of concept, the concepts they were branding about, is very mired 370 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.920 in the spiritual and the and the consciousness awakening. They just think, well, 371 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:08.200 this is a self improvement or motivational for business type of thing, when 372 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.559 in essence they're using law, manifestation and all that kind of stuff in their 373 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:18.680 teachings. I mean it is. It is really accessible if you just recognize 374 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.160 it for what it is. Yeah, don't be afraid. Have the courage, 375 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.799 to have the courage just to start exploring, have the conversations, right, 376 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:27.079 you know, I love the backstory that you shared with me in your 377 00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:32.200 own journey and the how you've got the actual proof of oh wow, this 378 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:37.480 is actually real. Right, and and oftentimes in all times, and in 379 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:41.240 the movie The Matrix, right when I'm going through it again, because I'm 380 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:48.599 gear enough to watch the new one that's coming out here this year, the 381 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.359 new series, Right, I've good ready to watch it. Well, because 382 00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:55.720 it's exactly Resistance. And when you know, when Neo goes into the MAKESFX 383 00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.480 for Tommy comes out of the construct after fighting fighting Morpheus, right, he 384 00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:03.599 goes it's blood. Right, It's like I didn't think it was real. 385 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.720 It's like, well, your mind makes it real. If you don't take 386 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:12.599 anything else away from that movie, but that right there, it's your mind 387 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:18.720 that makes it real. Belief is everything, right, Science, science has 388 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.640 proven that the desk that I'm sitting in front in front of, right, 389 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.599 that I'm sitting behind right now, I can touch it. But science has 390 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:30.240 proven that there's more empty space in this desk than there is actual matter. 391 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:34.039 So how is it then that I can touch it? Well, folks, 392 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:37.559 that that's the matrix. That's kind of how it works. Why is it 393 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:42.799 solid? Because I believe in my subconscious programming, through social programming, through 394 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:49.279 everything, that it's real. But if I were to train myself to believe 395 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:55.160 that it's not and every ounce of my being, I could probably put my 396 00:30:55.160 --> 00:31:00.160 hand through it. But I had had to believe it all of me to 397 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.839 do such. I mean, you bring up things that Yogis in India have 398 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:08.559 been doing for so many years, right to hear stories of people levitating. 399 00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:12.599 We interviewed a gentleman who was telling us about one of his masters was able 400 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:18.160 to secrete water from his hands, or had fire coming into his hands, 401 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.880 all these different superpowers. I guess, for lack of a better word, 402 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.640 they feel it as a nuisance. It's just a secondary side effect to the 403 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.319 road to their self enlightenment. We just did an interview with someone who had 404 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:37.160 a near death experience, and her experience was one a very devout Catholic woman 405 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.960 who had been taught that if she was bad, she was going to hell. 406 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.279 She was good, she was going to heaven, and when she was 407 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.759 put into a coma because of a health issue that she had. She ended 408 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.759 up going to hell because that's what she expected that would be what's happened. 409 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.640 So she experienced all these terrible things in her end, and then when she 410 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:02.119 started changing her thought process to one of more aligned with God, she ended 411 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.759 up being shot up into heaven, at which point she was told no, 412 00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:07.400 no, you've got much too much work to do. You got to go 413 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:13.960 back. Or Her whole message was I created that you don't have to go 414 00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.039 to hell. Right, if you don't believe that you're going to go to 415 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:20.279 hell when you die, you won't. But you have to really truly know 416 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.680 that when you die, this is what happens. Right. We talked about 417 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.640 what dreams may come the book and the movie that when you die, they 418 00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:32.480 everyone had their own personal hell or their own personal heaven because for sure enough, 419 00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:38.759 whatever you believe is one hundred percent real for you. Right, Well, 420 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:46.039 yeah, that's that's my concept of hell is is slightly. I don't 421 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:51.200 think you have to wait for it. I think most people live in existence 422 00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.359 that is hell because they get up every morning and go to their nine to 423 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:59.640 five job rates and repeat. They might see their family on the weekends and 424 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.599 then they they're just waiting to die, or they're waiting for some miracle, 425 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.759 maybe hitting the power ball. Whatever it is, right, and it may 426 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.920 not be they You might have a great life, but even in just small 427 00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:14.240 things like getting into a fight with your spouse, and it's the same fight 428 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.680 over and over, it's a hell loop. Right. The behaviors don't change, 429 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.720 right, the reality doesn't change, the constructs don't change. Your friends 430 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:24.799 don't change. And this person is not nice, and this person never says 431 00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.480 anything. This person we create these own hell loops because it's our program when 432 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:37.440 we don't understand why. And my belief is that we create these hell loops 433 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.359 for ourselves. And Jesus even said, right, the kingdom is here and 434 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.000 now the kingdoms and you too shall do greater things than onne. Well, 435 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.720 if that's the case, and how come seven million Christians haven't been able or 436 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.279 how very many Christians are ever there there are? Right, haven't been able 437 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.160 to create heaven on earth? The promises is it's here now? Well, 438 00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:00.079 it's because of the program that's reinforced. And when religions into a box, 439 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:06.000 it limits it and it's been sold as you have to wait to die in 440 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.440 order to go to heaven. That's not what Jesus said. Jesus said that 441 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:15.400 the Kingdom is here and now, which means that, Okay, if the 442 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.599 Kingdom is here and now and I'm not seeing it, which is heaven, 443 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.920 then that must mean I'm in hell and how do I get out? Wow? 444 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:30.079 That's that is a heck of a thought. So you started in religion, 445 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.639 moved away from it, looked into touau and national projection of remote viewing, 446 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.480 all that kind of stuff, and then found your way back. Were 447 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:43.440 baptized. But I'm hearing that religion is not really your thing, but rather 448 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.920 a spirituality. Right. So one of the messaging that I get all the 449 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.400 time from people who are uber religious is why are you looking into that stuff? 450 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.760 That all that stuff is the toroau, that's all the devil, that's 451 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:59.320 the devil's work. So how do you reconcile that within yourself? It's easy 452 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:04.719 because I've played in those areas. I understand that the terureau is just understanding 453 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:08.719 their arcana in the seventy two major arcana that make up the human psyche, 454 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:15.519 and that they aren't of the devil. They are just tools to remind us 455 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:20.960 of if this card comes up, then I should probably take a look at 456 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:24.519 that within my own psyche and understand why am I doing this, Why am 457 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:29.119 I seeing this, Where is this showing up in my life? And how 458 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.360 do I improve upon it? How do I come into awareness and harmony with 459 00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:39.280 it. They're not tools to use to worship the devil. Right, God 460 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:45.199 created everything? Right, God created everything? Then how did we come to 461 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:49.679 tourou? Now A lot of people argue that that was man made. I 462 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:54.880 argue that they were tools that man used as a mechanism to better understand their 463 00:35:54.880 --> 00:36:01.039 relationship with God. And that's it, and it's for me God. God 464 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:07.920 was God. God's not a choice. Salvation is God, but God is 465 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:13.159 not a choice. You can't remove God from reality. Right when we do, 466 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.039 we get the chaos. We get the chaos of the world. And 467 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:22.800 if we're stuck in our own personal hell because we removed God and we're left 468 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:27.280 to our own constructs, then how do we get out of that? Well, 469 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:31.159 One, we have to realign ourselves with the divine and then we have 470 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:37.280 to start understanding who we are, unprogramming our own behaviors, become more in 471 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:45.000 alignment with God and that purpose. Because when we do. Spirit guides us. 472 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.599 We don't have to. We don't have to do anything. I live 473 00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:52.639 a very blessed life because of that, because I lean into spirit. I 474 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:58.159 trust God to do that for me. It was that the monarcer of Christ. 475 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.119 I accepted Christ because he gave us two rules, and the church threw 476 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.599 a whole bunch more on top of it. But the two rules that Christ 477 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:10.000 Christ gave to us right, love God, love each other. And the 478 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.400 only way that we can do that is understanding ourselves, understanding our biases, 479 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:22.280 understanding our own judgments, understanding our own fears, and coming into alignment and 480 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:28.239 a frequency of love that allows us to connect with everybody outside of the zone 481 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.480 A judgment says, if you're not me, then you're a big, bad 482 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:36.880 and scary because the fact of the matter is is that the people that we 483 00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:43.199 see in our life are just a reflection of ourselves. And believe it or 484 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.199 not, when you work through those different layers, those people that you're seeing 485 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:51.559 in your reality, if those are types, no longer see, no longer 486 00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:55.760 serve you, Those people just magically disappear and fade away from your life. 487 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.000 It's magic, you said a mouthful. I believe like you. I believe 488 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.360 that the toureau, all these things are tools. Right. The underlying message 489 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:10.599 in this show has always been that we're finding that we're all saying the same 490 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:19.800 thing in just using different words. The challenge comes when I've never made it 491 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.599 a secret that I'm not an organized religion type of guy. It just didn't 492 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.119 work for me. Didn't fit for me. If it fits for you, 493 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:30.480 wonderful. Where I have a challenge, though, is when someone says to 494 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:37.360 me or anyone, that this is the only route to take. And that's 495 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:46.360 where I start then unplugging because I know differently. I have spoken to a 496 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:50.199 lot of people that are on a very different path. I've spoken to people 497 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:54.800 that are on the complete opposite path, but their focus is be a good 498 00:38:54.840 --> 00:39:00.079 person, be a good person, and help other people, because of the 499 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.239 end of the day, what you're doing is helping yourself. And we are 500 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:06.320 all one, right, We've all. Everyone talks about the fact we all 501 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:07.519 one, we all part of God, we all come from God, we 502 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:13.119 all come from the Divine and we you and I sitting across from our computers 503 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:17.280 to each other, we are the same person in a different personage. And 504 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.039 the sooner that we start realizing that the better off we're going to be. 505 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:30.960 That's yeah, well absolutely, and it's it's the idea that anybody else outside 506 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.440 of yourself, whether it be organized religion, friends, or shared beliefs, 507 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:42.360 whatever, can tell you who or what your relationship with God is is silly. 508 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:47.119 It's a personal relationship that you have to have. No one else can 509 00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:50.880 tell you what that looks like. No one else can define that for you. 510 00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:55.119 For me, I had that relationship connection with God through through Christ right, 511 00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.280 but I'm not a believer that that's the only way. It's a tool, 512 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:04.320 it's what resonates with me. I can identify it. I see the 513 00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:08.119 power in it, but I also pool from other things and why I'm able 514 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:12.559 to do what I do because I see the value in it. And that's 515 00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.320 what in our community is really designed to do that. It's designed to support 516 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:22.199 those Regardless of what your walk is, whatever that path looks like, it's 517 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.599 a lot easier to do it alone, do it by yourself rather than alone 518 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:30.760 or find yourself amongst a big box church or religion that you don't fully agree 519 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.920 with, but to be able to get the support that you need in that 520 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:38.400 personal journey for yourself because it is just that it is, and I believe 521 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:43.960 it's lily that it's going to change the world. Is that personal, personal 522 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:47.280 journey with spirit with the divine that it's going to bring us closer together in 523 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.639 unity? Yep, I couldn't agree with you more. I salute you for 524 00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:54.760 what you're doing with your community, because you do have a lot for a 525 00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:57.800 lot of people, and you guys are doing a lot of great things for 526 00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:00.159 a lot of folks. So thank you for putting it out there. Thank 527 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.119 you for coming on the show. If someone wants to reach out to you 528 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.880 or experience their community, what's the best way to do it? Best way 529 00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.159 to do it is go to Superpowerexperts dot com. You can use the chat 530 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:14.519 feature at the bottom of the page here to to reach out and send any 531 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.400 one of our hosts the messages as well. Connect with me there as well. 532 00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.519 Just say time in and say hey, I want to connect with Justin 533 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.880 or go to the app. Download the app where you can stream all of 534 00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.960 our content and our classes on the Superparer Network app. Just it's in the 535 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.760 app. Stort go to superpart dot com. Yeah, there's just so much 536 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.360 there, just so much there that we could. I mean, we do, 537 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:39.039 we dove down into each of the individual things that you offer on that 538 00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.800 site. We would be here at least a month because it just there's just 539 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.880 so much I would I would encourage you to take a look for yourself. 540 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.840 There's a lot of really incredible resources right there that are readily available to anyone 541 00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.079 who wants to So, Justin, I'm honored that you came on the show. 542 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.679 Thank you very much for coming on and spending some time with us something 543 00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:58.920 for having me well, I want to thank you for coming along on this 544 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.159 journey of discovery. 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Thanks again for 562 00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.519 joining us, and we'll see you on the next episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician. 563 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.920 Until then, and take good care.