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Hey everybody, welcome, here we
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Matt Connerton Unleashed and we are live
from the studios of w m n H

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five point three FM and Glorious Downtown
Manchester, New Hampshire, also on cong

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Pass ninety seven if you're in Manchester, and hello to all of our online

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Etc. Today is Thursday July thirteen,

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twenty twenty three, so nice to
have you all with me. By

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the way, played a couple couple
songs there to open the show today.

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We started with bleed Lines, the
single from our friends in the band sepsis.

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Part of why I played that is
they've got a brand new video and

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in fact, if you happen to
be in Facebook in the chat room,

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Jenny shared the link they've just released. Actually it went up last night on

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YouTube. The brand new video from
sepsis for the song bleed Lines. It's

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really cool features the brand new lineup
of the band, so I recommend checking

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that out. And I really like
that song A lot, so I figured

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i'd play that today and it's a
good excuse to let everybody know about the

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new video. And of course I
also played don't Cha, a little bit

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of garage rock from our friend grim
Rock, who joined us yesterday on the

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show for the world radio premiere of
his new single Don't Cha. He is

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from the great state of Pennsylvania and
he's by the way, he's been doing

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a lot. If he's listening,
thank you. He's been doing a lot

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for a lot to really kind of
promote the show and his appearance on the

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show yesterday, and he's got a
lot of people talking about it on Twitter,

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which is really cool. So we
appreciate that very very much. Tomorrow

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on the show, we've got a
busy show. Tomorrow we have, of

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course Eric Pilch's classic film review and
this week the subject is National Lampoon's Vacation,

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very appropriate of course for the summertime. And then at five pm tomorrow

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we're going to be joined by Dave
Wally And this is kind of a special

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one for me because Dave and I
went to high school together and I've always

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had a tremendous respect for him.
Not only is he a great guy,

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but a very talented musician, and
so he's got this band, Satellite Union,

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really really good. So he's going
to be skyping in from Chicago.

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That's where Dave is and that's where
the band is based. I spent a

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lot of time in Chicago as a
kid because when I was when I was

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a wee lad, a young urchin. Uh, you know, when my

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parents split up, my mom ended
up moving back to Chicago, where she

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where she was from originally, so
every summer I would get to spend spend

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the summers out there with her.
So I know that city pretty well myself.

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But oh, I haven't been there
in a while, I'll admit,

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but it'll be it'll be really cool
to talk to day of tomorrow and catch

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up with him. So that will
be tomorrow on the show. In fact,

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I might even, uh, at
the top of the hour today,

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I might give a little sneak preview
of a Satellite Union song. Not one

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of the ones that Dave sent me. I'm going to save those for tomorrow.

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But there's another Satellite Union song.
I found online a video of a

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performance from twenty twenty two, and
I said, oh, I really like

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this, So Melanie says, were
you a crip or a blood No,

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no, not in not in Chicago, Melanie. You're thinking of back when

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I when I was in Compton,
you know, Seetown, I was actually

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a member of both the Crips and
the Bloods. But uh, you know

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I was pretty thug. That was
a different time, though. Boy.

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I'll tell you what if if you
knew me back then, you'd be you'd

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be afraid. You'd be afraid of
me anyway. Uh, six zo three

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two five O six ZO seven as
a studio line six zo three two five

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O six Z seven. I'm never
quite sure how to go with that.

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That's an old joke. I'm never
quite sure how far to go with it.

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I don't go as far with it
as I used to. Um,

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it's different, different times. Six
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You can also text me at six
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six. I'm on social media at
Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt

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at Matt Connerton dot com. And
of course you can interact endo Pine in

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the Facebook live chat. But the
melody's making me laugh in the chat room.

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But the best thing to do so
that we can hear and enjoy your

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dulcet tones is to give us a
call at six zoo three two five zero

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six zero seven. Speaking of dulcet
tones, we have a little bit of

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a mystery um. Usually on Thursday
afternoons, we are joined via phone by

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our friend EASYG for his entertainment report. However, I realized today that I

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haven't heard from him. And usually
I hear from him in advance of his

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entertainment report because he typically has a
song request that he would like me to

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play at the end of his entertainment
report. It's usually something by either Amanda

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McCarthy, Katie Dobbins or April Cushman, one of those three, because those

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are the three entertainers he speaks about
during his entertainment report. It's really the

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it's really more of an Amanda McCarthy, Katie Dobbins, April Cushman report,

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to be very precise about it.
But I realized today, and I was

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saying to Jenny earlier, you know, I haven't heard from I haven't heard

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from EASYG. So we'll see if
he calls at four fifteen, but I

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don't know, and I don't see
him in the chat room either, So

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hopefully everything's okay. If we don't
hear from him, he'd does have I

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was. I ran into Kyle Heavy
earlier. Of course, Kyle part of

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the W M and H family.
He ows his own show called Off the

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Mark Sports on Sundays from I believe
it's ten am to noon. But Kyle

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and I were talking earlier, just
stob briefly, and I said that Jenny's

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saying Eric Agnet, Yes, easyg
Eric Agnet. I was saying, you

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know, Easy has a He has
a little bit of a history of disappearing

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for for months at a time.
So I don't know. I don't know,

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So we'll see, we'll see if
we hear from him. But we'll

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go ahead and say a load everybody
on the Facebook live chat, and we

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do have some something to get into. There's a particular a news item that

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I think is being somewhat underreported.
Shall we say that we're gonna get into

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today, But yes, I did
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And by the way, Melanie,
I hope everything is good where you

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are. Also, Jay Fed joins
us in the chat as well and says,

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good afternoon everyone, Good afternoon,
j Fed. My thoughts are with

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the two of you. Of course
you are in Vermont and Vermont areas of

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Vermont, I mean the pictures.
I'd seen something Melanie had posted on Facebook,

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and it's been in the news,
of course that the terrible torrential downpours

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of rain that left that area flooded. And to see the flooding in mont

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Pelier is. I saw one news
report that said it's actually worse than when

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Hurricane Irene had hit. So it's
pretty bad there. So I hope every

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hope everything's okay. I hope you're
both all right. It sounds like you

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are, but boy, hopefully that
that water recedes soon. And I did

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even hear something about another storm system
is moving in, so our thoughts are

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with you there and everyone in the
great state of Vermont. Jenny of course

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is in the chatroom and says shalom
peeps, and she did. She did

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share a link, like I said, to the new video from Sepsis for

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the track bleed Lines, really great
great song. Eric Street joins us in

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the chat and says, I thought
Kyle could be the new entertainment reporter since

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he sat at the desk the other
day. Ah. Yes, Kyle Clayton

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of the morning show. It was
great to see him. He hadn't been

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on the show in quite some time, but he came in the other day

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because we had the try Combs here
and he's really close friends with Ian from

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the try Combs. And it turns
out they had been in a band together

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back in the day, which I
meant to look up online. I wanted

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to find that band, and I
there might not be anything available anyway online,

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but I am super curious. But
DJ Steve is in the Facebook live

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chat. Hello. DJ Steve of
course joins us Friday Nights for Retro Spectrum

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Radio with Paul c every Friday night
from eight to eleven pm here on WMNH.

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I have the honor and privilege of
being one of Paul's co hosts on

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that show, along with DJ Steve
and of course Mike from Queen City Cabinetry.

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Melanie says, Yep, governor is
encouraging no one is on the roads

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after four pm today risk of flooding
and extreme wins. It just saysn't stop,

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does it. I'm sorry to hear
that. Melanie and Saturn, who

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is from of course Greensboro, North
Carolina, says, we say good afternoon,

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hashtag Matt yesterday hashtag Matt Connerton.
We say that new force of the

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spark just comment to you yesterday.
Alrighty, we are watching you from Greensboro,

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North Carolina. I suspect it as
much, I have to say.

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I did kind of assume that that
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Oh I do see sepsis as is
in the Facebook live chat. Hello,

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let me give the number again and
then we're gonna get into something.

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It's obviously EASYG is not called,
so I guess he's probably disappeared once again.

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Oh, Melanie says, I think
a virgin or two should be thrown

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into a volcano. You never know. It could work. Um, yes,

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um, it could, but we
don't know. Is there an active

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volcano available to do that? Is? That would be my first question,

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just, you know, because we
have to approach these things, uh from

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a pragmatic and practical standpoint. Oh
my god, I just thought of something.

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What if something happened with e ZG
And Bruce. Maybe that's why I

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haven't heard from him. So let
me give the studio line again and then

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we'll we'll get into uh. Oh, Rondo Favero joins us in the Facebook

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lift had all the way from California, She says Callie in the house.

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Uh six three two five six z
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five six zero seven. That is
the studio line. Um, what I

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wanted to get into today. And
uh I this is one of those things

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that it's not that the media is
ignoring it. Sometimes when people talk about

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things that aren't getting what they feel
is a significant amount of attention in the

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mainstream media, they'll say, oh, the mainstream media is ignoring this story.

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You hear that a lot, and
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the mainstream media is not ignoring it. I knew about that, and the

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reason I knew about it is from
the mainstream media. But this is a

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particular item that I think is being
not covered enough, and I'm a bit

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alarmed by by what is happening.
And it involves foreign policy. Obviously,

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in the times that we live in, when we talk about foreign policy,

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the first thing that people think about
and discuss is of course Russia and the

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invasion of Ukraine and NATO, and
it's been a pretty big week on that

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front. Of course, the announcement
being made at the G seven that Ukraine

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will be joining NATO in the future, not until after the current war is

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over, you know. So we
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the the decision by the Biden administration
to give Ukraine cluster bombs to use,

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which is very controversial. They're taking
a lot of criticism from that, to

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a large degree, from his own
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A lot of Democrats are criticizing him
for it. I actually agree with

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the decision. I think it's necessary
to do, but I understand it's,

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as we say, it's something upon
which reasonable people can disagree. So there's

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been a lot of news lately,
but there's something that is connected with all

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of this that is not getting talked
about that much. So again, it

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is being reported on. For example, if you go onto the Google and

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you type in Cuba, Russia,
China, you will in fact find search

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results on mainstream media outlets. Oh
hello to Dylan Reynolds who joins us in

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the Facebook live chat. It's been
a great musicians. So you will find

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stories. The mainstream media is covering
this. But again, you know,

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at any given time, there's only
so much oxygen. Yeah, because there's

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only so much time you have in
a newscast and on these shows. And

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but you'll notice again I mentioned Russia, China, and Cuba. So we

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talk a lot about Russia these days. Obviously when we talk a lot about

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China, we're always talking a lot
about China. We don't talk much about

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Cuba. Now, why is that? Well, just not much to say

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about Cuba, right, Well,
here's the problem. Actually there is,

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and this is the part that I
think is being not discussed enough. What's

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happening right now with Cuba. And
I'm pretty bothered and I'm upset that this

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is happening. And I'm going to
explain you in some detail in a moment,

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but it's these current conditions were avoidable, and there's a significant amount of

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blame to go around, and the
blame that I will be assigning today for

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the current situation, as I see
it, will be bipartisan in nature.

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I can assure you of that.
But the problem is, and if you

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saw my post on social media earlier, you might have an idea of where

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I'm going with this and why I'm
thinking about Cuba. Two things. So,

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China has been really cozying up to
Cuba, and they seem to be

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developing quite a relationship, and China
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the United States, or that seems
to be their intention. At least Cuba

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not too far. I don't remember
offhand how many miles it is off off

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of the coast of Florida, but
you know, Cuba's not far, not

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far at all. Uh. Strategically, if you are an enemy of the

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United States, and we have seen
this in history, if you are an

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enemy of the United States, if
you can somehow get yourself set up in

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Cuba where you can do things like
spy on the United States because of the

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close proximity of Cuba where you can
spy on the United States, well you're

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you're you're in a pretty good position
there. That's a that's a good thing

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for you to have, right Or
if you're in an if you're an enemy

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of the United States and you would
like to well it's been a long time

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since we've used a phrase like this, but if you're an enemy of the

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United States and you would like to
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in a nuclear standoff on the United
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missiles in Cuba would sure media or
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and Kruschev is long gone. But
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By the way, though, before
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alarm anybody. There's no I'm not
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putting nuclear weapons in Cuba to hit
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that. No, no, no, Just to be clear, no,

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no one is reporting that, nothing
like that. But I'm concerned because so

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not only is Cuba getting very cozy
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a rekindling of an of an old
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and Russia, and in fact a
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ships to Cuba, and Russia is
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Apparently Cuba needs oil, and so
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seeing a great strengthening of that relationship, a restrengthening of that relationship. That's

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a big problem. We'll get into
more details, but just looking at it

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in a broad sense, we don't
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China and Russia, to be having
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island that is not far from the
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And again, this is something that
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it if it's not being reported.
It is, but I think it's a

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bigger problem. I think it's a
bigger danger than people might realize. And

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I'm a little bit frustrated that it's
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to know what the Biden administration is
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any particular impression that they're doing much
now in terms of blame, I said,

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the blame is bipartisan. Well,
here it is. And we'll again

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we'll get into some more details about
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So the Obama administration, and we'll
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but just just broad strokes to start. So, the Obama administration really

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tried to sort of normalize relations and
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involving, in fact, not without
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but President Obama at the time actually
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in twenties, toward the end of
his presidency. We'll look at the timeline,

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but actually, some really cool pictures
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it was pretty amazing to see President
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Havannah, depending on how you say
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And I supported that. Again,
I understood some of the criticism, but

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I supported it because I felt that
strategically, again, we want to doesn't

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mean we have to like them and
buy them. I mean, I don't

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mean anything against the Cuban people,
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it doesn't mean we have to like
Castro. Of course, Fidel Castro is

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dead and he was replaced by Raoul
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people got very uneasy about images of
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game, and you know, these
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it made sense and it was probably
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and I thought so because the Cuban
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before I was even alive, which
I'm really glad about. I would not

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have wanted to live through that because
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but I thought it made sense.
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undo much of what Obama did.
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that that's not that unusual, right
when a new president comes in who's a

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different party, of a different party
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undo a lot of things that the
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that sense. But one of the
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most of the if not all,
of the progress and goodwill and all of

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it that this new relationship that Obama
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you know, hopefully they can reset
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wonderful because I thought that what the
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the Biden administration came in, and
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of the Obama era policy, but
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attempt at it. I understand coming
in they had their hands full with the

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pandemic and this and that. But
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that once Russia started indicating that they
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shock when they invaded Ukraine. It
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months before it did. You know, you would think it might occur to

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somebody, Hey, Russia's really getting
out of control here. Maybe we need

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to make sure that things are stable
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to try to rekindle that relationship with
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be at odds with Russia. But
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whole hell of a lot in terms
of that. So there's plenty of blame

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to go around. And some of
you might think, Matt, is this

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really a big deal. Why are
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anything about the Cuban missile crisis.
Some people thought that too back in during

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the JFK administration, nobody cares about
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Russians installing nuclear weapons on the island
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everybody cared a whole hell of a
lot about Cuba. Now, part

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of why I might be a little
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alive when the Cuban missile crisis happened. And again I'm very glad for that,

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because that would have been something frightening
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would not have handled it particularly well. Oh hello to Amiriam Banish in the

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chat room. I would have been
pretty freaked out because I grew up growing

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up in the eighties, you know, I grew up with obsession is too

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strong a word, but an unhealthy
preoccupation, shall we say, with the

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threat of nuclear war. I was
very worried, and I did let it.

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I expended a lot of mental energy
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Some of that is human nature.
We all tend to worry to varying

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degrees about things that we can't control. That was my big thing growing up.

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I mean, he can attest to
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about it, with my mother about
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It was it was something that was
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should have been. This may be
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I've always been so fascinated by you
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if you were to ask me,
is there a particular aspect of history that

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I'm you know, sort of that
I find more interesting than any others?

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You know, anything Cold War related
is really interesting to me. I'm fascinated

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by anything related to the Cold War. And if I were to pick a

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particular point during the Cold War that
I'm especially fascinated by, it's the Cuban

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missile crisis. I'll read any book, watch any documentary, you know,

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whatever it is about. The Cuban
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history to me. And thank god
JFK was there to get us through that,

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and he had some really good people
around him. He also had some

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people who maybe didn't have the best
judgment, but fortunately their voices were not

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ultimately the ones that JFK chose to
listen to. That's why you might have

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heard me say it on the show. Whenever I hear somebody start talking about,

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Oh, we need to be doing
so much more, and we need

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to get NATO right in there and
confront Russia directly, and we need to

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send in American troops and push rush
out. You know, I hear people

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say some things that I think sound
completely irrational and insane and potentially self destructive

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and armageddon inducing. I'll often refer
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if you know anything about the Cuban
missile crisis, and you know who General

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Curtis LeMay was, he was probably
the number one guy who was in Kennedy

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Zier telling him, Hey, look, let's let's just do this. Let's

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just go and start bombing. We
gotta bomb Cuba, we got to take

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out those missiles. Let's just do
it now. We're not gonna We shouldn't

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be waiting for them to uh,
you know, we shouldn't be doing all

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this back channel negotiation and whatnot.
We should just go in and let's let's

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hit him. And Kennedy said,
well, if we do that, how

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are they going to respond? And
by the way, Dean Atchison said at

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the time, well, what they
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us in UH, in Germany and
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the point being it would ultimately ask
scalate in a nuclear exchange and that

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would be it. None of us
would be sitting here. So but yeah,

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you know, General LeMay was you
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a good man, but he was
like, yeah, let's just because he

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told Kennedy he doesn't think that they
will respond, because if they respond,

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then things will escalate and we know
where it ends up. So but he

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was just itching. LeMay was itching
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was, you know. And Bob
McNamara too, who, of course is

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takes an incredible criticism for his role
in the Vietnam War, criticism that I

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think is warranted. And if there's
a great documentary about McNamara called Fog of

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War where he's interviewed throughout the documentary
and it's really good and really compelling.

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You should see it. If you
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McNamara was one of the cooler heads
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get us through that. So McNamara
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not for his role in Vietnam however, in my view, that's my opinion.

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off guard by what was happening in

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Cuba and the fact that those missiles
were being put in and you know,

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JFK and his administration got us through
that. But a lesson that obviously,

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some people did learn from it because
we've been warned about this over the decades.

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We've been warned about this by some
people who've said, you know,

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we might want to do something about
strengthening our relationship with Cuba, even though

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Fidel Castro and again he died and
then was replaced by Raoul Sroin, even

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though Castro is a bad guy,
and we don't ever want to look like

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we're from a human rights perspective,
we don't ever want to look like we're

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approving of anything going on there.
But you know, we have an embassy

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there obviously, but we might want
to be making a little extra effort to

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keep things very copasetic with Cuba,
because if we don't, someone else may

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come in. The Russians may come
back, or China might come in and

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fill that void that we're not filling, and we're not showing any interests or

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inclination to ever compromise. Not compromise, but but you know, in terms

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of lifting some trade restrictions or whatever
it may be, you know, maybe

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some sort of an olive branch needs
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itself as history often will. And
I'm worried that that's where we're ending up

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now. Chris Porrior was also known
as Crispy, a comedian. He says,

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we need to stop the posturing by
Russia and China, and if Trump

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was still in he just would have
handed handed us over and still might if

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Trump if Trump's are elected. Oh
do you mean Ukraine handing Ukraine over?

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Well? Trump has said that he
could have that solved within twenty four hours,

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but the problem is we all know
what that means. Well, how

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would you possibly just have that solved
in twenty four hours. There's only one

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way you could do it. You
could tell putin you can have it,

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and that's it. Trump was never
a fan of NATO to begin with,

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which means if he gets elected in
twenty twenty four, he might then have

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to deal with the reality that Ukraine
is at that point now a part of

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NATO. If if the war is
even over by the which I'm actually skeptical

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that it will be. I think
it's going to drag on, potentially for

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years. I really do. I
don't see any evidence of the contrary,

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but that's that's me. Melanie says, I have a preoccupation with the Dead

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Rising since watching Night of the Living
Dead in the third grade. Yes,

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I can understand that. You know, what film I did see when I

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was a kid was not in the
third grade, certainly, but um,

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I was pretty young actually the day
after, and I remember a conversation my

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dad probably will remember this too,
a conversation with him and my stepmother about

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whether or not to let me watch
it. But I'd say it's a good

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film. But it's weird to say
it's a good film considering what the subject

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matter is. I mean, it's
frightening, but I don't think it.

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I don't think it did any harm
seeing it because I was already so preoccupied

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with nuclear war. What you know, I don't think it made me any

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more afraid. Certainly didn't make me
any less afraid either. I think it

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was a wash. And Saturn says, in the chat room, Trump Trump,

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Trump, We say, Melanie says, true story. I've always mapped

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out at least two escape routes to
escape zombies everywhere I have ever lived.

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Well, that's very m That's like
a survivalism, except instead of planning to

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go into an underground bunker, you
plan to escape your You plan your escape

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from zombies. And Saturn says,
Trump just got something going on. We

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say, we ain't going to like
it. We said, all right,

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Melanie says. My therapist says,
I'm doing much better. I'm just kidding.

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She doesn't say that. Roni Favero
says, the day after gave me

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nightmares. Yeah. See, in
my case, I was already having those

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nightmares. So I don't I don't
think it much mattered. But so the

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point is, the broad point is, and then we'll get into some some

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of the details on what is happening
right now with Cuba. This is being

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overlooked to a large degree, and
I'm very concerned. Let's well, let's

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look at China first. We've got
a couple of things on this. Oh

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you know what this is from the
Hill dot com. Now this is actually

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this is an opinion piece written by
Arturo mcfield's who writes for the He writes

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a national security column, an opinion
column for The Hill. Let's see what

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he has to say about this.
For the last sixty four years, the

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Cuban dictatorship has been one of the
main threats to democracy in Latin America into

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the security of the US. Since
the nineteen sixty two Cuban missile crisis,

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following the Russian spy based establish in
lords the Bejucal I'm sure I'm not saying

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that correctly facility, and finally,
with the twenty nineteen chapter involving Chinese espionage,

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Havana's regime has continued to open its
stores to America's most dangerous geopolitical enemies.

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In nineteen sixty Cuba became the first
country in Latin America to establish diplomatic

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relations with Communist China. Since then, political, military, and economic exchanges

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have been increasing, particularly since the
fall of the Soviet Union. Last November,

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China approved one hundred million dollars to
rescue Cuba from itself inflicted economic collapse.

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By the way, I didn't see. I didn't even realize that.

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That totally got past me. I
did not know that. I knew that

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Cuba had a diplomatic relationship with China
going back to the sixties. I did

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not realize this though, about the
one hundred million dollars rescue package that China

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had approved for Cuba. That completely
got past me. Oh, hello to

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Greg Joseph in the Facebook live chat, he says, sending love and respect

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for the work you are doing educating
the people. Thanks a million, thank

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you. Yes. Greg Joseph,
of course from Clemento's another one of our

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great sponsors here at WMH ninety five
point three, and he's a frequent contributor

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on the Morning Show as well.
I love hearing Greg on the Morning Show.

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He's got he's got kind of an
understated sense of humor that I find

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very funny. Says here last November. Okay, so we covered that.

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Okay. So, although Havana and
Beijing have maintained a spy base since twenty

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nineteen, and by the way,
I didn't know that either. I didn't

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realize that either. I thought that
that was a more recent development, but

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it's not. Intelligence cooperation between the
two countries has continued above and beyond that.

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According to the Wall Street Journal,
the two regimes are negotiating the establishment

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of a joint military training base on
the island, just one hundred miles away

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from the Florida coast. Yeah,
that's not good. That's really not good.

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The US has also reported the activities
of the Chinese cele communications giants Huawei

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and Zte in the same area where
the spy base is supposed to be located.

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This century, the Castro dictatorship and
its progeny have helped forge and maintain

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the current dictatorships of Venezuela and Nicaragua, both politically and militarily. Cuban advisors

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are present in these two countries to
pull the strings, offering intelligence support and

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training to their policies. I'm sorry
to their police and armies. Cuba also

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maintains a close political and ideological relationship
with leftist presidents in Brazil, Colombia,

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and Mexico. Brazil and Mexico have
supported the Cuban medical brigades, considered a

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model of modern slavery. According to
the human rights organization Prisoners Defenders. The

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regime keeps ninety four of the salaries
received by fifty thousand doctors in different parts

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of the world. Yeah, I've
read. I've read some about that.

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We have a Oh thought we had
a call? Do we have a call?

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Nope? Go Yeah, I've read
some about that. And by the

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way, it's things like that that
I understand make it difficult, make it

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difficult for us to extend that olive
branch. I understand that. But I

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just wish if I could turn back
time to quote share that we could have

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at least maintained that sort of normalization
of a relationship that the Obama administration had

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established, because I cannot help.
But wonder had that not continued, even

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if it didn't necessarily progress, but
just continued, Maybe, just maybe in

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the year of twenty twenty three,
we wouldn't be sitting here talking about the

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Chinese having a military base on an
island one hundred miles off the coast of

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Florida. Maybe it says here.
Since the early days of the Cuban Revolution

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and the Missile Crisis, Russia has
been the main military partner of Cuba's regime.

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Last week, Russian Defense Minister Sergei
Shogu met with his Cuban counterpart,

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Alvero Lopez Miera. After the abort
of rebellion by Wagner mercenaries in Russia,

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Putin has reportedly looked to Cuba for
more soldiers to continue his war of aggression

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against Ukraine. According to prisoners defenders, Russia and Cuba have reached an agreement

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that would send Cuban soldiers to Ukraine, paying each of them two thousand dollars

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per month, but the island's dictatorship
would naturally keep between seventy five percent to

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ninety five of their income, since
this is how dictatorship's work. While China

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advances its commercial relationships in Latin America, seizing key industries such as lithium,

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copper, and telecommunications, Cuba has
an extensive political and ideological network throughout Latin

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America and even in the US through
the Salpolo Forum and the so called Solidarity

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Networks. Senator Bob Menendez, Democrat
of New Jersey and Congressman Michael McCall,

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Republican of Texas are calling on the
Biden administration to give a classified briefing regarding

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the reported Chinese spy facility in Cuba. Okay, well thank you Senator Bob

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Menendez and Congressman Michael McCall. I'm
glad that somebody in the government is paying

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attention, and I would support them
in that. I would hope that the

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Biden administration will give them that briefing. Giving the political, economic, and

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security threat posed by Cuba and China, a comprehensive response is urgently needed.

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Partnerships with other democratic nations in Latin
America should be strengthened, both in the

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field of security and in commercial matters. It would be a very big mistake

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to neglect such hemispheric threats or underestimate
the dangerous strategies of such regimes as Cuba,

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China and Russia. So that's the
opinion piece on the hill. And

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let's also look at this. Let's
continue on the China portion of this,

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and we'll get to the Russian part, probably in the second hour. This

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is a big topic, obviously,
so we will continue. Actually, no,

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I think change change of plans.
All right, let's look at this.

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We'll go ahead and get to the
Russia part. Here. Um,

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this is from the Havanah Times.
This is from right out of Cuba,

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right out of Cuba media. Here
it's an article titled relaunching relations between Cuba

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and Russia. Just that phrase gives
me a chill. Um. Let's see

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Cuba and Cuba and Russia have announced
plans to strengthen their economic and trade relations,

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but experts doubt that they can achieve
a new bilateral golden age, and

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they glimpse geopolitical interests in difficult times
for both countries. This week, the

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Cuban Prime Minister Manuel Marrero is in
Russia for the Eurasian inter Governmental Council in

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the International Economic Forum in Saint Petersburg, while the opposition warns of a new

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Russification quote unquote. The visit,
the last after those of several ministers and

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President mcguel diaz Canal himself last November, comes shortly after Havana announced preferential treatment

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for Russian investors from transfers of agricultural
land for thirty years to tax exemptions.

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These measures complete a flight of announcements, including the entry of three Russian ruble

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banks on the island and the presentation
of a package of reforms. This kind

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of gets into the weeds a little
more than I want to. You know

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what, I never liked the Havana
Times anyway, I'm kidding, I've never

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had any opinion. I do want
to look at the timeline though, and

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then probably in the second hour,
we'll get more into the Russia part of

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this, with um, the Russians
now supplying oil to Cuba. But there's

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a great this is from CFI dot
org Council on Foreign Relations dot org.

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It's a timeline of US Cuba relations
and it's pretty pretty informative. But where

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I want to actually pick this up
is twenty eleven to twenty thirteen, and

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we'll go forward from there because I
want to look at again, Um,

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well, we could go back.
We actually could go back to nineteen sixty

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two. Now maybe we should actually, now you know what, we should

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go back to nineteen Let's go back
to nineteen sixty growing antagonism between the United

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States and Russia. I mean,
I'm sorry, the United States in Cuba.

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Just just we'll kind of speed through
part of this. But I want

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to get to because ultimately where I
want to end up is U when you

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know, we had an opportunity to
really kind of improve things long term and

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then we didn't. But we have
a call. Hi, Welcome to Matt

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Connerton. Unleash. Who is this? Oh knee, how mom, Matt

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oh Bosha? Ridley pancha bhaja?
Uh? Is that Cantonese? What is

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that? Oh? That's Mandarin.
I just think I'm Ridley, but I'm

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a beginner, Ridley. I I
yes, I'm sorry, Dave Ridley.

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You know I often, uh,
this is a failing of mine. I

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often get Cantonese and Mandarin confused.
Yeah. I don't really know much of

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anything about Cantonese. In fact,
I don't really understand. You know,

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00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:47,480
whenever you search, like when I
if you want to say so much,

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00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:51,760
well, what happens is when you
try to figure out what you're speaking or

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what you're listening to, it will
tell you that you're speaking Chinese or you're

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here you're listening to Chinese, and
then it called it Chinese simplified in Chinese

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traditional. I know that Chinese traditional
as Mandarin, but I don't know what

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the difference is between Cantonese and Chinese
simplified. Do you uh? You know?

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I actually I do know, but
it's just too much to get into

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here. Yeah. Well, anyway, I'm just gonna say I told Cold

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War two, Cold War two point
zero, I don't know how to say

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that in Mandarin. I have no
idea. Ah, yes, yes,

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I go ahead, Dave, I
am surious, serir thoughts. Well,

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00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,679
yeah, so this is really tough. You know. Look from a pro

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freedom standpoint, if you look at
the history of the First Cold War,

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the United States was more of a
pro freedom place than the Soviet Union was.

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But in finding the Soviet Union,
it eviscerated some of its own freedoms

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and we haven't gotten those backs yet. In addition, obviously it committed a

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00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,719
lot of abuses in in beating the
Soviet Union. Does that make sense?

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Say it again, Dave, I
just, I just I'm not sure I've

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quite followed all of it. I
definitely got part of it. But yeah,

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say it again if you would.
I guess what I'm trying I guess

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what I'm trying to say is what's
happened before is what will happen again.

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The US will be more pro freedom
than China, but it will lose some

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of its freedoms in fighting China.
Does that make sense? The US will

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lose some of our freedoms in fighting
China. Yeah, just the way we

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lost some of our freedoms in fighting
the Nazis and then fighting the Soviets and

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we never get them back. Can
you expand on that, because I'm actually

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not sure exactly what you mean.
Well, I hope I'm not starting to

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drift off topic here. But just
for example, the reason we have income

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00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:51,960
tax withholding is because they started withholding
income taxes to paper World War two,

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because its temporary wartime measures that's been
in effect since I think nineteen forty two,

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So we can expect that kind of
thing to happen again in fighting this

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actual legitimate threat from China. It's
just it's gonna they're gonna use that as

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an excuse to take our freedoms away
here. But do you think that it's

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Some people think it's inevitable. I
actually don't call me an optimist. I

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think there are a lot of reasons
to believe that it's actually not inevitable war

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with China. But do you think
that it is because you sound like you're

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pretty concerned. Well, yeah,
I mean cold war is inevitable and we're

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already in one. Yes, but
there are solutions. They're all kinds of

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solutions. It don't cost taxpayers a
dime, and the government wants to cover

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those up. They don't want anyone
talking about it, and no one does

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00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,039
talk about it, it seems like, and that the obvious one is just

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to let us defend ourselves. They've
got the American people so twisted into not

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over what guns they can even own, and and all the permissions they have

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00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,679
to get to own a gun or
to carry a gun, and so for

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00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,320
some you know, that just all
needs to go away, and then we

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don't have to worry about having this
expensive, federally funded centralized defense. So

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you're not interested in So I assume
you're not interested in defending Taiwan if it

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comes to that, Well, anyone
who wants to help defend Taiwan should have

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the full moral support of the federal
government. I think they shouldn't. They

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should, you know, that should
probably be encouraged. But people, there's

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no it's not right to steal from
taxpayers to send the money off to Taiwan.

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It's just it's not right for the
federal government to centralize the process of

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defending Taiwan. It's something to be
done by individuals, companies, organizations,

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00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:59,760
militias, that sort of thing.
Yeah, well, I understand what you're

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saying, but it's not that's never
going to be the reality of how any

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of this works, so well as
not as long as the federal government is

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monopolizing defense, right, which is
what I mean by that's not ever going

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to be the reality of how any
of this works, because that's never going

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to change. What's the reality of
how it works in Switzerland. But this

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ain't Switzerland, and it's never going
to be. That's the whole point,

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and that's why we have these problems. Right. Switzerland is not having these

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problems with China. And by the
way, either is Closta Rica, which

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00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:40,480
has no military at all and no
and no allies. But when you say

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are problems with China, what do
you mean exactly? Because when I think

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of problems with China, I think
about things like them. See you know,

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they seel our intellectual property, they
spy on us. They Um,

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I mean, what do you what
do you mean by problems with China?

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Well, I'm more concerned about their
interference with free speech in America, which

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it's not very intense yet, but
there have definitely been some high profile cases

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where they interfered with people's ability to
speak against their government, even though they're

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00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:16,239
like Anglo Americans living in America or
African Americans living in America. They have

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nothing to do with China except opening
and closing their mouths in criticism of its

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00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,199
government. Are you talking about those? Uh? Well, give me an

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00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,760
example. Well, it wasn't there
an NBA guy who made some pro Taiwan

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00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,400
statement or made pro Hong Kong statement
or something that he was forced to retract

598
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:43,599
it, right, right? I
somewhat remember that, Yes, yeah,

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And there was also I think,
well there's an NBA official who was forced

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to do that, or I think
there was also a player, and you

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00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,960
know, we're there's there was also
that example of the there was a student

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00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:04,880
in Australia who just led this really
minor, like twelve person sign wave in

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00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:10,280
support of Hong Kong or something like
that at university. And he was he

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00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,719
was such a small event and such
an unimportant thing. I don't even think

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00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,519
he was on time to his own
protests, right, It was just almost

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a non event. And suddenly,
out of the blue, these these goons

607
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show up and start beating up the
protesters, like the the you know,

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the the twelve point five you know, twenty year olds holding a little sign.

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And it turned out in the Beijing
embassy got involved in the university ejected

610
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:45,000
the young man who organized up the
sign wave instead of coming after the people

611
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,760
who beat him up for no particular
reason. This is all videotaped. They

612
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,719
ejected the student because the university was
bought by the bought and paid for essentially

613
00:52:53,760 --> 00:53:01,400
by the Chinese government. And so
that's just an example of how free speech

614
00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:07,079
is interfered with closer to China,
and they're they're expanding their interference with free

615
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:13,119
speech to the US. UM.
I do remember you talking about that story

616
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,239
with the protester and getting beaten up, and uh, pretty wild. Um

617
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,760
well, I mean, you know, the reality is that there's a larger

618
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:28,480
reality and part of this is part
of why I don't think war is inevitable.

619
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:37,159
Uh particularly but um, we are
so economically interlocked with China. Um.

620
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:40,280
I think probably more than a lot
of people realize. Um, So

621
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,119
there's no it's not like it's not
like our relationship with Russia, for example,

622
00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:47,639
where we can just say, well, you know, screw you,

623
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,480
we don't want your oil, you
know, we being NATO, I guess,

624
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,440
um. But with China, it's
it's very very complicated and and we're

625
00:53:55,559 --> 00:54:00,840
very economically dependent on each other,
and the Chinese are much more economically dependent

626
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,519
on the United States. And I
think people realize too, some people I

627
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:07,400
heard. I heard one analyst saying
that, you know, people think of

628
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,960
China as like, you know,
like like the US is six feet tall

629
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,639
and China is like ten feet tall, and it's really the other way around.

630
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:19,760
But um so, I don't know
what the solution is. They're always

631
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,880
They're always going to have influence here. Dave, Are you the one who

632
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,599
originally brought up the the Chinese police
stations operating in the United States? Was

633
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:31,880
that you they're not well the ones
I was talking about, or not police

634
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,519
station, you were talking about the
Confucius Confucius Center. That's right, the

635
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:38,559
Confucius centers. Okay, it was
my dad who brought up the police stations.

636
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:44,000
Yeah, that that really shocked me. But um so, what's what

637
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:47,639
what's the answer, Dave? If
realistically, now I understand what you would

638
00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:52,760
like to happen, but realistically,
knowing that we are economically interdependent, and

639
00:54:53,000 --> 00:55:00,199
knowing that, uh, you know
that the situation is what it isn't terms

640
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,480
of the federal government controlling defense,
what what do you think should happen?

641
00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:10,000
Well? The realistic thing to hope
for is that the United States government does

642
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:16,840
not make any new steps to limit
gun rights. Right, so just make

643
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:22,559
sure making sure that Americans maintain at
least what rights they still have in terms

644
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:29,280
of the ability to defend themselves.
That would probably be the realistic thing to

645
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:37,400
hope for. Um. Well,
that's the that's not going to change.

646
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,280
I mean, you know, we're
not going to continue We're we're not going

647
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,639
to not have gun rights. Uh, certainly, even even if they are

648
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,079
somewhat more regulated. But um,
but I don't think that has any effect

649
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:52,320
on our foreign policy with China.
I mean it doesn't. Well it's it

650
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:58,559
should you know, the gun gun
rights are a key element of any sort

651
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:05,119
of domestic defense. Oh, domestic. Yes, that this is the reason

652
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:08,480
why this is the reason why Ukraine
was invaded was because they didn't There's a

653
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:12,480
key reason. I think it was
a deciding factor was if there were not

654
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:17,639
enough guns in the hands of civilians. Seven seven guns civilians. Yeah,

655
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,599
in New Hampshire. It's in New
Hampshire. It's one hundred and twenty guns

656
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,639
for hundred civilians. You can't imagine
that that doesn't have a big impact on

657
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,760
the decision of anyone to invade.
I understand, Dave. I think I

658
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:37,000
think we might have been talking about
two different things because I'm not I'm not

659
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:39,639
talking about invasion. I'm talking about
a war with China. But I'm not.

660
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,719
I'm not talking about China trying to
invade the United States. I can't

661
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,320
imagine any circumstance under which that would
happen. That would be uh. I

662
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,440
understand their long term planners. You
know, they've got fifty year plans,

663
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,159
one hundred year plans and whatnot.
But I don't think they're planning to invade

664
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:57,800
the US. I'm not. I'm
not when I talk that's yeah, go

665
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,400
ahead. That's the reason. That's
a reason why they're not planning on hitting

666
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:07,239
the United States. They would be
able to do something like that in certain

667
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,920
there'd be certain circumstances where they could
if United States people didn't have gun freedom.

668
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,599
Does that make sense? I disagree
with you there. I mean,

669
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:19,280
I'm pros I'm pro two A and
I support gun freedom. But um,

670
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,119
we've got quite the nuclear arsenal.
So even if even if we were to

671
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:30,480
do something like what Australia did and
confiscate guns, we've still got a whole

672
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:32,000
lot of nukes, So I don't
think China would be I don't think anyone

673
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:36,159
would be interested in invading the United
States. I think if if we were

674
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:37,480
to get into some sort of a
war with China, it would be over

675
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:44,320
Taiwan. It wouldn't be the Chinese
coming to American soil. Yeah, but

676
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:49,719
just just bear in mind how how
much it frees up the US military for

677
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,880
individuals in the United States that we've
kind of got their back here right Like

678
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,880
the United States military could they could
send all the US military out of the

679
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,239
United States if they want wanted to. Every last soldier could be sent away

680
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,760
from the United States and it would
still be able to defend itself because of

681
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,639
the gun freedom and the large number
of firearms. Does that make sense?

682
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,280
That does no? I understand what
you're saying logically. Mike from Queen City

683
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,039
Cabinetry points out in the chat room, they would be too tired to fight

684
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:21,840
from swimming all that way. That's
a good point. I don't know how

685
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:27,320
many boats they have. I know
they've got a huge army, because you

686
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,079
know, it's a lot of they
don't have. I think India now has

687
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:35,800
the largest global population. If I'm
not mistaken. I think China's second.

688
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,880
Is that correct? Do you know, Dave? Actually, I don't know

689
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:44,119
if India history pasted him yet.
I think India has, but I could

690
00:58:44,159 --> 00:58:49,800
be wrong. Okay, Now what
about so what about Cuba? Any any

691
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:58,519
thoughts there? Well, I'm not
sure exactly what you know should be done.

692
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:00,400
Just as long as it's not an
act of aggression, go for it.

693
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:06,679
Anything it's not an active aggression,
It's fine to do against this Chinese

694
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:14,239
base or against the government of Cuba
or anyone else. The problem is if

695
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:22,920
the federal government is taking action against
some base in Cuba using your tax dollars,

696
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:29,719
that's an active aggression against you.
Yeah, well, I know you

697
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,519
and I see that differently, both
in a broader sense, and I would

698
00:59:31,519 --> 00:59:36,199
say, more specifically, if if
something is being done using my tax dollars

699
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:42,360
and to protect to protect me,
and you might say, well, how

700
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,719
is it the government's job to decide
for me? What is it or is

701
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:52,800
not in the best interests in terms
of my protection? I understand, But

702
00:59:54,440 --> 01:00:00,840
but I guess what I'm thinking about
and what I've been taught about today really

703
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,880
is I just wish that that this
wasn't even on the table in terms of

704
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,519
China potentially having I mean, I
guess it hasn't happened yet, but potentially

705
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:15,480
even having a base in Cuba,
because I wish that we had continued the

706
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:22,639
Obama administration policy with Cuba where we
were kind of trying to normalize relations and

707
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,280
get things to a more positive place
where someone like China or Russia would not

708
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,880
come in and kind of fill that
vacuum, you know what I mean.

709
01:00:31,679 --> 01:00:37,199
Yeah, Well, but again,
it's also important to keep things in perspective.

710
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,920
Look how many military bases? Well, I don't know what you tell

711
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,199
me, what is the number of
military bases that the United States has within

712
01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:51,800
one hundred miles of China. I'm
not sure. I'm not sure what that

713
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,880
number is. I don't either,
But the US has eight hundred military bases

714
01:00:54,960 --> 01:01:01,280
overseas and constantly putting military bases right
X two countries that it's hostile towards.

715
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,679
Right, there's that saying. You
know, you know, obviously Iran is

716
01:01:05,719 --> 01:01:09,480
the aggressor because look how close they
put their country to our eight hundred military

717
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:15,920
bases. Right. I understand your
point, Dave, I do um,

718
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:22,239
But again, I just I think
back to um I don't know how much

719
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,039
of the show you heard earlier,
but I talked a lot about the Cuban

720
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:30,519
the Cuban missile crisis earlier. And
um, when you're talking about putting,

721
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:35,159
when we're talking about a Chinese base
one hundred miles off the coast of Florida,

722
01:01:35,639 --> 01:01:39,159
UM, I get very very concerned, and I just feel and that's

723
01:01:39,239 --> 01:01:42,920
I mean, that's how that's how
China looks at Taiwan. They said,

724
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,519
that's that's the American military base,
you know, ninety I guess, about

725
01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:53,000
ninety miles off the coast of mainland
China. We don't have an actual base

726
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:58,320
on Taiwan, do we, Well, not a big one. I don't

727
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,760
think there's US troops there, but
I don't think there's a de facto like

728
01:02:02,159 --> 01:02:07,079
official US MILITI. There's not an
official US military base on the island of

729
01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:10,199
my knowledge. Yeah, I didn't
think so that would be because I don't

730
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:15,119
I don't think the Chinese would tolerate
that. UM. I think if we

731
01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:19,400
tried to put an actual military base
on Taiwan, UM, I do think

732
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,639
it would be uh, that would
be akin to actually them putting a military

733
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:29,519
base on Cuba. UM. But
I'm very worried about that. Well,

734
01:02:29,719 --> 01:02:31,320
I'm sorry, oh I was saying, but I'm very worried about this go

735
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:37,679
ahead. Well again, that's the
other solution is for the Taiwanese government to

736
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:43,159
stop taking its people's guns, and
they have its situation as Taiwan is much

737
01:02:43,239 --> 01:02:47,000
worse than than the one in Ukraine
was before the invasion in terms of in

738
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:52,760
terms of guns freedom. You know, Ukrainians had seven guns per one hundred

739
01:02:52,760 --> 01:03:00,440
civilians and Taiwan has officially zero guns
in the hands of civilians per hundred civilians.

740
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:07,239
So their government has brought their their
bad defense on itself, their lack

741
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,960
of defense on itself. I see, yeah, I didn't know that about

742
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,400
Taiwan. It doesn't surprise me,
but I didn't know that what the policy

743
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,280
there was. And obviously the Thaiwan
they do have a Taiwanese military, but

744
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,559
it's it would be no um,
no match for for for China. Uh,

745
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:27,159
that's uh, that's for sure if
they do ever decide to move on

746
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:29,440
Taiwan. Well, what do you
think about that? Do you think that's

747
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,800
inevitable that the Chinese decide? I
know Ji Jingping has said it will happen,

748
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,719
but he never says when, And
again I remain cautiously optimistic that it

749
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,840
won't. But what do you think
do you think it's inevitable? No,

750
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:50,000
I don't think it's inevitable. Uh. The Chinese revert they're sort of reverting

751
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:54,000
to the reverting to totalitarian, isn't
now. So that's going to start damning

752
01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:00,679
their economy and shutting down the progress
that they made, So they will start

753
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,480
following. Probably eventually this move will
catch up with them, and it'll start

754
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:11,360
affecting their technological lead wherever they have
one, because you can't be totalitarian and

755
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:15,519
have a you know, decisive technological
lead, you can't maintain that. I

756
01:04:15,559 --> 01:04:18,119
think I think it's going to start
a rooting. I'm not sure, but

757
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,679
that's what I hope will happen.
Their economy, as pretty fragile as it

758
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,840
is, they've did a horrendous job, as we all know, managing COVID,

759
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,559
and uh, they're they're in a
lot of they're in a lot of

760
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:34,599
economic trouble right now, by the
way, and I hope you'll take this

761
01:04:34,639 --> 01:04:39,360
as a compliment. Dave Rondo Ferverro
in the chat room says, Uh,

762
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:44,000
the guy on the phone sounds exactly
like the back in the day talk show

763
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:47,559
hosts Dick Cavett. And I never
noticed it before until Ronda pointed it out.

764
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:54,960
But you do sound like Dick Cavett. Oh great, you're you know

765
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:59,519
Dick Cavett. Right, Well,
I saw just a couple episodes that I'm

766
01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:01,679
not very with him. My dad
used to watch Dick cave It when I

767
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,599
was a kid. He would he
would watch him every night. And um,

768
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:10,119
yeah, I like to have it. But you do sound like him.

769
01:05:10,159 --> 01:05:13,199
You do have a very similar voice, You're you you speak a little

770
01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:16,320
bit faster than he does. Dick
cav It kind of um speaks a little

771
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:21,440
more slowly, but but your your
actual voice is h is very very close.

772
01:05:23,199 --> 01:05:27,079
Um, well, Dave, we're
we're we're well past the top of

773
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:29,360
the hour, so we should we
should let you go and we we've got

774
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,639
to get to a break. Did
you have anything to add? No?

775
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,639
Thanks? Okay. Oh by the
way, pork Fest that's already coming,

776
01:05:35,719 --> 01:05:41,599
gone right, yeah, I could
bosh you just call him separately about all

777
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:46,559
the Porkfest news. Well, now
I'm curious did anything because when you had

778
01:05:46,599 --> 01:05:51,280
called before, you said there was
some controversy about involving a couple of the

779
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,079
speakers like RFKA didn't want any guns
in the room, and some other guy

780
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:01,119
was threatening to cause a problem if
there were trans people or something. Did

781
01:06:01,159 --> 01:06:09,360
anything, Did anything happen the rf
case thing went smoothly. Carla Garrick,

782
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,320
the president of the Foundation for New
Hampshire Independence or the former president of it,

783
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:17,719
was able to heckle him a little
bit or something, or she jumped

784
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,480
up and asked him a question about
New Hampshire declaring independence and whether he would

785
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:27,960
whether he would fight us militarily if
we did that, right, and he

786
01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:32,079
answered kind of evasively, he said
that he wants to bring people together.

787
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:40,519
And the other thing that happened with
regard to the guy that was the guy

788
01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:43,519
that was making threats against like he
said, if there anyone tries to do

789
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:45,880
a drag Queen story hour, I'm
going to come get him, you know,

790
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,920
or something. He didn't sound like
he was going to physically do something

791
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:55,559
to them. Yeah, So this
resulted in someone having like a transit story

792
01:06:55,639 --> 01:07:01,199
hour or whatnot. Uh. The
guy who was making the threats, like

793
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,880
this big speaker who was going to
come in and like a paid speaker,

794
01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:09,440
I guess he just never like he
never showed up. And I think he

795
01:07:09,559 --> 01:07:13,960
was like arrested them the week before
the fork Fast or something like that,

796
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,239
really, and I think it was
an unrelated arrest. He was in an

797
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,119
event or something like it. So
I think he was in jail or something

798
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:25,280
when when fork Fast happened, or
that's my understanding. So that's pretty dramatic,

799
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,440
and there's other stuff that happened.
But I should just call it in

800
01:07:27,559 --> 01:07:30,800
separately enlisted all. Yeah, I
am. I am very curious to hear

801
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,400
about it, so please, yeah, call call back soon about that.

802
01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:41,360
But do you do you know the
identity of the person yet or or no?

803
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,920
I feel like it's something like I
just I never can say it correctly,

804
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,239
but I'm just afraid I'll say the
wrong name and implicate the wrong person.

805
01:07:49,519 --> 01:07:53,920
Yeah, I have it, I
have it in my head, but

806
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,760
I'm just afraid to say it.
Is it a long name. It's not.

807
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:03,159
It's like a two syllable thing.
Okay. I keep meaning to know

808
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,119
that before I call you, and
keep forgetting to look it up. I'm

809
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:10,559
just super curious. I tried to
find out myself. I just I looked

810
01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:14,039
online and I couldn't. I couldn't
figure it out. But I'm just very

811
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,720
I'm just very very curious. Well, all right, Dave, did you

812
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,199
want to plug anything Ridley Report or
an NH exit or anything before you go?

813
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,920
All I've taken enough of your time, all right, Dave. Well,

814
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,159
I do enjoy talking with you,
and I appreciate the call. Thanks,

815
01:08:28,199 --> 01:08:30,720
Matt, all right, you got
it? Bye bye? All right.

816
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:38,279
That is Dave Ridley from the Ridley
Report and NH Exit. We will

817
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:43,039
let's do this because yes we are
late for Oh actually we have another call.

818
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,359
Let's see. It looks like our
friend Ron is on the line,

819
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:50,039
so we always have time for Ron. Hey, Ron, Hey, Matt.

820
01:08:50,119 --> 01:08:54,359
I'll try to be brief. I've
got kind of questions and thinks that

821
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,600
I can, you know, take
answers off the year. I'm sure I

822
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:02,840
was misinterpreting what Dave was heading at
with arming the civilians. Um, you

823
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,479
know, wars are just fought conventionally, not by you know, a handguns

824
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:11,359
and back guards. But that's I
think that would only cause anything. I

825
01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:14,720
think he knows it would only cause
walm and good. Even if everybody,

826
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,199
every family had guns, it would
just cause Woma good he does. What

827
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:25,399
I wanted to ask, so,
is um with Cuba setting up, with

828
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:32,159
China setting up a base in that
sort of up only one hundred miles from

829
01:09:32,199 --> 01:09:38,199
my from from the US? What
we would just talk about is that really

830
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:44,600
matter? Because the United States has
more nuclear vessels than anybody else, and

831
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,159
like a large of quantities of nuclear
vessels, So we kind of already have

832
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:55,119
a base at sea anywhere any time
between the air, between the carriers and

833
01:09:55,239 --> 01:09:58,399
the fighters and and all of the
above. So I don't know, it's

834
01:09:58,399 --> 01:10:01,520
just there's one hundred miles away be
matter because well, you know what,

835
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,479
what does that matter? You could
get a plane in the year I'll kind

836
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:10,439
of shoot down anything kind of rapidly
from if they're only a hundred miles away.

837
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,399
I mean, I don't know.
I'm just saying this. We don't

838
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,479
need to have a base that close
because our basis are all over the seas

839
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,680
between the submarines and everything else,
right, you know. So, And

840
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,720
the last thing I wanted to say
was this wasn't even commented. I wanted

841
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:31,319
to ask Um, I hear all
these countries you know where this one I

842
01:10:31,399 --> 01:10:33,600
wrote that just wore, and this
one and this one and this one.

843
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:39,000
But it is Japan falling all of
us. I haven't heard much about Japan.

844
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,119
Yeah, I mean just this,
Um, there was a dumb question.

845
01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:48,159
No, No, not at all. There was something about Japan recently.

846
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:55,600
Actually, um, I forget what
it was now, though I might

847
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,319
look that up during the break.
There was something. I mean, we

848
01:10:58,399 --> 01:11:00,640
don't hear a lot about Japan.
You know, they don't go to war

849
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,319
with anybody. Um, they do
have nuclear weapons, but um, we

850
01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:10,359
don't hear a lot about Japan.
But there was something recently foreign policy related

851
01:11:10,399 --> 01:11:14,760
that was important regarding Japan. And
I can't remember what it is, but

852
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,399
I will look it up. Ron. I'm glad you asked about that because

853
01:11:17,399 --> 01:11:21,680
it was okay. And last pace, Yes, the sanctions that got imposed,

854
01:11:23,239 --> 01:11:29,439
do they affect I'm not saying US
Japan. Are any of the sanctions

855
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,199
that we have polls on these other
places. Does that affect Japan's ability to

856
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:39,760
get products and manufacture and create?
I mean, I don't know. The

857
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,720
sanctions would seem like they were doing
good, but I don't hear anything about

858
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:49,479
it anymore. Sanctions on who um, Oh my god, I'm nervous,

859
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,640
and now you get me on this
spot. Oh that's okay, I mean,

860
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,600
yeah, go ahead. No.
Um, when Trump was in place,

861
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:03,800
UM, sanctions were put in place
against I wasn't as a freshet,

862
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,479
I'd tell you, I don't know, just seem the next stanctions were pres

863
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:13,199
it pulls everywhere and it was affecting
everybody. Um have we and we've been

864
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:18,439
listening the sanctions under Oh do you
mean that? Do you mean the tariffs

865
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:23,840
that were imposed on China? Because
Trump was very big on having a trade

866
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,720
war with China, and we thank
you, thank you. Yeah, not

867
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:32,640
not sanctions, but but tariffs and
um, some of those I think a

868
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,640
few of those have been rolled back
under Biden, but most of those have

869
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:40,920
remained in place from what I understand, which actually surprises me a little bit.

870
01:12:41,319 --> 01:12:43,840
I thought more of those what would
have been rolled back, but maybe

871
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,920
because things are so tense with China, they're leaving them in place. But

872
01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:50,840
but yeah, there were those tariffs
that Trump did put a lot of tariffs

873
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:58,199
on China. All right, Matt, I h I really loved you show.

874
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:01,720
I wish you could want it to
lad Flock today. Me too,

875
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,800
me too, But thank you,
Ron, I appreciate it very much,

876
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:09,279
and I appreciate the call. All
right, buddy, all right, Ron,

877
01:13:09,359 --> 01:13:12,600
take care bye bye. All right, that was our friend Ron.

878
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,560
Let's get to a break. But
Ron did ask a couple of very interesting

879
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,520
questions that will address on the other
side. But we'll get to a break.

880
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:27,600
I'm gonna play a track from Where
Did It Go? Oh? Here

881
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,319
it is. I'm gonna play this
song so tomorrow on the show. I'm

882
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,840
very excited because in the second hour, we're gonna talk to my old friend

883
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:39,039
from high school, Dave Wally,
and he's got this band, Satellite Union,

884
01:13:39,159 --> 01:13:44,359
and we're gonna play. This is
a performance, live performance of that

885
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,199
I found on the website for his
band, Satellite Union, and the website

886
01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:51,520
is Satellite Union music dot com.
Dave sent me some specific tracks to play,

887
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,560
but I'm gonna save those for tomorrow. But I found this and I

888
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,199
really like it. The name of
the song is if You Don't Go and

889
01:13:58,359 --> 01:14:00,479
this is really really cool. So
we're gonna play, and we're going to

890
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,760
show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then we will be back with

891
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:09,239
the balance of our program today and
we'll answer those questions, those other questions

892
01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:54,840
that Ron had. Welcome back everybody, as we cruising our final segment today

893
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,640
of Matt Connerton Unleashed, and we
are live from the studios of w m

894
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,720
n H ninety five point three FM
and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire,

895
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:08,319
also on Comcast ninety seven. If
you're in Manchester and hello to Oliver our

896
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:11,279
online listeners across the nation and around
the globe. You can go to my

897
01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:15,560
website Matt Connerton dot com for all
your live streaming options, social media links,

898
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,359
contact in folk show archives, etc. Etc. Today is Thursday,

899
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:24,079
July thirteen, two thousand to twenty
three, so nice to have you all

900
01:15:24,399 --> 01:15:27,880
with me. By the way,
that song I played as a live performance

901
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:32,359
of If You Don't Go from the
band Satellite Union, and tomorrow on the

902
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,800
show in the second hour, my
friend Dave Wally will be skyping in all

903
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:42,520
the way from the Windy City,
Chicago to talk about the band, and

904
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,159
Dave and I will get caught up. We're old friends. I actually went

905
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,000
to high school with Dave, so
I'm really looking forward to this. Dave's

906
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:51,039
a great guy and enormously talented,
and he sent me some tracks for tomorrow.

907
01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:54,960
But I found that live performance online
of that song and I said,

908
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,720
you know what, I think I'm
gonna play that today, kind of give

909
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,800
everybody a little sneak peak. So
that'll be tomorrow on the show. And

910
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,640
of course we also have tomorrow because
it will be Friday, Eric Pilcher's Classic

911
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:11,079
film review and this week the subject
is National Lampoon's Vacation, so that will

912
01:16:11,119 --> 01:16:13,960
be tomorrow as well. So we
have a busy, busy show tomorrow.

913
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,039
But if you'd like to join us
today, six ZO three two five six

914
01:16:17,119 --> 01:16:21,000
Z seven is a studio line six
ZO three two five six seven. You

915
01:16:21,039 --> 01:16:30,039
can also text me at six I'm
sorry six one seven. Uh see,

916
01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:33,680
I screwed myself up. Wow,
I never do that. Six one seven

917
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,960
nine one seven four four seven six. I never screw up the phone number.

918
01:16:38,199 --> 01:16:42,000
Six one seven nine one seven four
four seven six. I'm all worried

919
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:49,600
about this whole Cuba stuff. I'm
distracted. Let's see. I'm on social

920
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:54,359
media at Matt Connerton. You can
email me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com,

921
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,840
and of course you can interact and
no pine in the Facebook live chat.

922
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,880
But the best thing to do so
that we can here and enjoy your

923
01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:02,560
dulse at Tones is to give us
a call at six three two five H

924
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,439
six Z seven. By the way, speaking of the Facebook lap chat,

925
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,439
I see a new name in there. Lewis Tivee joins us in the chat.

926
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:14,720
Hello, just uh and again just
to follow up. Oh, and

927
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,239
Joe Friday joins us in sus Aloha
peeps, Aloha to you. Joe Friday.

928
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:28,560
Ron had asked some questions during his
when he called in earlier regarding Japan.

929
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,279
Mike from Queen City Cabinetry set in
the chat room. I think it

930
01:17:31,359 --> 01:17:36,520
was either we were sending troops there
to train their troops or we are having

931
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,600
our troops there. Yeah, we
um. You don't hear Japan come up

932
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:48,479
a lot in foreign policy discussions,
but I do know that Japan gets very

933
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:53,800
nervous about and we're not gonna get
into this today in detail. We won't

934
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:58,920
have time. But North Korea,
of course constantly saber rattling every now and

935
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:04,640
again, and sometimes I get concerned
that it's becoming increasingly common, these test

936
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:11,840
launches of missiles and shooting them right
over Japan. And you know, Kim

937
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:17,520
Jong un, we have to figure
out how to contain him and control him,

938
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:23,199
and that can just keeps getting kicked
down the road, doesn't it.

939
01:18:23,319 --> 01:18:27,279
But uh yeah, so Japan is
always very nervous. Another thing that Ron

940
01:18:27,359 --> 01:18:30,119
had asked about, by the way, was what Dave Ridley was saying about

941
01:18:30,199 --> 01:18:35,079
guns. No, you you did
not misunderstand him. Ron. What the

942
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:40,079
argument that Dave was making. And
this is something that you often hear.

943
01:18:40,119 --> 01:18:43,840
You'll hear Second Amendment activists say this, and you know, and I'm a

944
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:45,720
I'm a pro Second Amendment guy.
That's an issue where I tend to be

945
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:51,520
more conservative. But of course we
live in New Hampshire. Where you're in

946
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:57,239
New Hampshire, we're one of the
most heavily armed states in the entire country,

947
01:18:57,279 --> 01:19:02,960
but we're also one of the safest, interestingly enough, But you'll often

948
01:19:03,079 --> 01:19:08,600
hear activists say that part of the
reason why the United States never gets invaded

949
01:19:09,159 --> 01:19:12,760
is because so many people here have
guns. So if anyone tried to invade

950
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,359
the United States, there would be
somebody hiding behind every bush with a gun

951
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:21,439
waiting to shoot them. Now,
the context that Dave Ridley was bringing that

952
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,960
up in, though I thought,
was a little again, I had to

953
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,439
push back on it a little bit
because I understood what he was saying.

954
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,880
I understood his point but and it's
not that he's wrong. From a logical

955
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:38,680
standpoint, of course, it would
be difficult to invade the United States because

956
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:44,520
not only do we have the largest
military in the world, exponentially larger than

957
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,239
any other military, certainly with what
we spend on it, but we are

958
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:53,920
also a such a heavily armed populace. But the thing is, even with

959
01:19:54,119 --> 01:19:59,439
us being so heavily armed as individuals
gun owners in the United States, we

960
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,439
still have the largest military in the
entire world. No one is ever,

961
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:09,239
ever, ever going to invade us, regardless of whether the citizen re is

962
01:20:09,399 --> 01:20:14,960
armed or not. Joe Farriday says, shout out to firefighters, police and

963
01:20:15,079 --> 01:20:20,439
first responders. God bless them,
be safe. So I think that answers

964
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,760
Ron's question. Oh no, I'm
sorry. So the other thing that's right.

965
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:30,039
There was another thing Ron brought up, and it's it's a he makes

966
01:20:30,039 --> 01:20:38,000
a good point. Does it really
matter if the Chinese do establish a base

967
01:20:38,119 --> 01:20:41,640
on Cuba because we have bases all
over the world and we have the military

968
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:46,680
capability to shoot anything down, to
fuse any situation, etc. In other

969
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,600
words, even if they do have
a base in Cuba, is that really

970
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:54,920
a threat to US. Now,
my response to that would be whether it

971
01:20:55,319 --> 01:21:00,560
is a direct threat or not.
First of all, I think it could

972
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,640
be. But I'll circle back to
that the broader point that I would make

973
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:10,479
about that, and this is kind
of the underlining point of what I've been

974
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:16,800
talking about today in terms of Cuba
and they're ever growing relationship with China and

975
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:24,800
of course the rekindling, to an
extent of their relationship with Russia. The

976
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:31,439
broader point is that we don't need
our enemies being able to set up shop

977
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:40,680
and spy on us or established themselves
in any way militarily one hundred miles off

978
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:47,399
the coast of Florida. Even if
even if what happens there and what is

979
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:53,640
established there is not necessarily a threat
in the sense that it's not anything that

980
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:58,399
we can't handle, it certainly doesn't
feel very good, and I think it

981
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:06,720
would be destabilizing. Sorry, I
just got a weird pop up on my

982
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:14,680
computer that distracted me. But going
back to would it be a direct threat,

983
01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:18,359
Well, what if the Chinese,
the Chinese, they have nuclear weapons.

984
01:22:19,039 --> 01:22:23,119
What if the Chinese, in the
course of setting up their base there,

985
01:22:23,279 --> 01:22:27,520
they put nuclear missiles there? Allah
the Cuban missile crisis and what we

986
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,720
had to deal with with Russia.
Now that is a direct threat. The

987
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,279
whole reason in sixty two with the
Cuban missile crisis, why that was so

988
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:39,800
harrowing and so dangerous, And again, as I talked about in the first

989
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,319
hour of their show, thank god
we had a president at the time,

990
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:48,279
JFK who was able to you know, Shepherd and stewarts us through that that

991
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,079
terrible time. I mean us,
I say us as in America. I

992
01:22:51,159 --> 01:22:54,520
wasn't here yet, And like I
said, I'm glad I wasn't. I'm

993
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,760
glad I wasn't alive for that because
that would have been terrifying. So I'm

994
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,000
glad that. You know, if
you talk to somebody who does remember it,

995
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,079
yeah, they'll tell you it's pretty
pretty scary because at any given moment,

996
01:23:05,239 --> 01:23:11,520
you know, they knew it could
be the end. But the reason

997
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:17,159
that was so massively destabilizing was because
that gave the Russians first strike capability to

998
01:23:17,279 --> 01:23:21,880
the extent that first strike capability matters
in the terms of global thermonuclear war.

999
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:28,439
If nuclear war breaks out, you
know, it'll ultimately even if you're not

1000
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,079
in a blast zone, there's going
to be radiation, and there's going to

1001
01:23:31,079 --> 01:23:34,359
be a nuclear winter that will kill
everyone on the planet anyway, So it

1002
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:40,479
almost doesn't matter who has first strike
capability. But if you've got nuclear missiles

1003
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:44,560
one hundred miles off the coast of
Florida, you can probably get those in

1004
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,319
the air pretty quickly and hitting the
United States before we have any chance to

1005
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:57,359
respond. And that's scary to think
about. So it does matter in the

1006
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:04,079
sense that. Look, and I'm
not naive, I understand that even if

1007
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,239
there is not a military base near
the United States it is occupied by a

1008
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:15,560
foreign power, there are nuclear submarines
that can launch missiles, that can sail

1009
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,399
up nice and close, not sail
what do you call it sailing, You

1010
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:26,239
don't sail underwater, But anyway they
can get in there. You can get

1011
01:24:26,279 --> 01:24:30,359
in with a nuclear submarine, probably
largely undetected, and you can launch something

1012
01:24:31,119 --> 01:24:34,039
right off the coast and hit US. I understand that. I'm not naive

1013
01:24:34,119 --> 01:24:39,880
to it. But again, the
idea of the Chinese having a base,

1014
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:46,279
because once that military base has expanded, remember when the Russians first started putting,

1015
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,800
they hadn't become operational yet. Okay, they had to set them up

1016
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:56,159
and I'm sure the technology has changed
over the decades. But when the United

1017
01:24:56,199 --> 01:25:01,479
States first detected that there were Russian
missiles on the island of Cuba via that

1018
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:09,439
aerial photography, it's not like we
knew. I mean, obviously we knew

1019
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:15,920
that the Russians we're bringing something to
Cuba. Anyone could see that, could

1020
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,720
see those ships. But we didn't
know what was on those ships. And

1021
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,960
you know, it could have been
could have been anything, could have been

1022
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:26,119
food, you know, grain for
food, could have been anything. Right,

1023
01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:30,359
we didn't know they were missiles until
they were spotted from the air.

1024
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:38,920
Now you could see it with a
satellite. I mean, I think we

1025
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,880
had satellite technology then too, but
not like now. But you know,

1026
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,840
but there were flyovers that were done
by the military to they were able to

1027
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:51,920
take those pictures, and then those
pictures were you know, those were clearly

1028
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:57,359
missiles. Again, they weren't operational
yet, and then it became a race

1029
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,760
against time. Well, you know, what do we do. Do we

1030
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:05,800
go and bomb Cuba and bomb those
missiles where those missiles are and wind up

1031
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:10,319
killing a whole lot of Russians in
the process. Do we do that?

1032
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:16,039
Because those missiles were going to become
operational. And by the way that that

1033
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:20,199
timetable kept getting moved up, where
you know, JFK was told, okay,

1034
01:26:20,239 --> 01:26:26,159
well we've got we've only got so
many days until those missiles are operational,

1035
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,159
and then it became actually, probably
within the next forty eight hours,

1036
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:36,479
those missiles are going to become operational, and thank god, you know,

1037
01:26:38,079 --> 01:26:41,359
we're not for the back channel communication
that was happening, you know, thank

1038
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:45,439
god Khruschev back down and that was
the end of that. In exchange for

1039
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:51,279
the Jupiter missiles in that we're in
Turkey at the time, I think that

1040
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:59,199
we had there. Those were actually
scheduled to be decommissioned anyway because they were

1041
01:26:59,239 --> 01:27:02,399
outdated, so they need needed to
be taken down and disassembled. But the

1042
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:08,159
Russians didn't know that. So that
was something that JFK could offered a cruse

1043
01:27:08,239 --> 01:27:12,960
chef, We'll take those missiles out
that you don't like sitting there on your

1044
01:27:13,039 --> 01:27:17,640
doorstep in exchange for you taking your
missiles out of Cuba before they even become

1045
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:25,279
operational. And that's ultimately what happened. But yeah, the idea of the

1046
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:29,920
Chinese having a base on the island
of Cuba again one hundred miles off the

1047
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:36,560
coast of Florida is unacceptable and we
cannot We cannot have that. Lots of

1048
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:40,800
comments in the Facebook live chat,
so I do want to get to some

1049
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:47,199
of these. Crispy says, China
needs us and we need China, but

1050
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:54,880
NATO now out guns everybody. China
needs us and we need China, referring

1051
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,239
to of course, says Dave and
I were talking about the interdependence economically,

1052
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:08,920
we are intertwined and which I hope
will will prevent ultimately prevent war. And

1053
01:28:09,159 --> 01:28:13,840
Saturn says, we hashtag Matt Connerton. We have to take a shower and

1054
01:28:14,039 --> 01:28:16,840
so enjoy your afternoon show. Thank
you, en Saturn, you enjoy your

1055
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:25,359
shower. Crispy says, sorry,
but guns are nothing compared to bombs,

1056
01:28:25,399 --> 01:28:28,880
and China can't afford to attack us, and we can't afford to attack China.

1057
01:28:29,399 --> 01:28:32,199
But we do need to protect Taiwan
at all costs. After all,

1058
01:28:32,279 --> 01:28:39,920
a bully regime won't be stopped until
they are stopped. Yeah, I,

1059
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:45,359
and that is something that we've talked
about on the show too. I had

1060
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:56,199
some criticism of President Biden when he
said flatly that yes, we would defend

1061
01:28:56,239 --> 01:29:00,319
Taiwan when he was asked, This
was months ago, when he was asked,

1062
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,560
if China were to move on Taiwan, would we defend Taiwan? And

1063
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:10,920
Biden said yes. I'm personally a
big fan of strategic ambiguity. Although I

1064
01:29:11,119 --> 01:29:15,119
also found it fascinating that in that
moment, you know, when people were

1065
01:29:15,279 --> 01:29:18,600
kind of pulling their hair out saying, Wow, I can't believe Biden just

1066
01:29:19,079 --> 01:29:24,720
discarded strategic ambiguity. Strategic ambiguity,
of course, being where you keep your

1067
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:29,359
opponent off balance by not letting them
know exactly, by not telegraphing or saying

1068
01:29:29,399 --> 01:29:32,960
outright exactly how you might respond to
whatever move that they make. You know,

1069
01:29:33,039 --> 01:29:35,960
it's a bit of a chess game. It all is right in terms

1070
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:40,359
of foreign policy, and you don't
want to You don't want your opponent to

1071
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,079
know what your move will be in
response to their move if you can help

1072
01:29:43,119 --> 01:29:45,840
it. And I had some criticism
of Biden for that, but it was

1073
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:51,760
interesting how when everybody was so upset, everybody just kind of collectively forgot that

1074
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:56,520
George W. Bush had done the
exact same thing. When George W.

1075
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,680
Bush became president. It was very
early in his presidency, so early I

1076
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,560
believe it was before nine to eleven
happened. It was within that first eight

1077
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,000
months he was asked the same quite
almost the exact same scenario. He was

1078
01:30:05,039 --> 01:30:10,159
asked by somebody, what will you
do? What will the response be if

1079
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,840
China were to attack Taiwan? Will
you defend Taiwan? And he said yes,

1080
01:30:14,359 --> 01:30:16,399
and same thing. People people went
nuts, well, what about strategic

1081
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,920
ambiguity? He just went said it
out loud, he can't do that,

1082
01:30:19,079 --> 01:30:27,079
but so it had already been done
by a previous administration. Strangely enough,

1083
01:30:27,279 --> 01:30:32,880
I thought Trump recently in an interview
was it with Bret bare That interview with

1084
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:38,920
Bret Bair I thought was disastrous for
Trump in a lot of ways legally.

1085
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,800
But one thing I did give Trump
credit for. I thought he gave a

1086
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,560
smart answer. And you won't hear. Look the list of things that I

1087
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,279
give Trump credit for, and if
you're a regular listener, you know how

1088
01:30:48,319 --> 01:30:51,800
I feel about Donald Trump. It's
a short list. But I did think

1089
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:59,439
something really smart that he said during
that interview was when Brett Baer asked him

1090
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,199
about what would your policy be on
if China were to move on Taiwan.

1091
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:08,800
Trump said, well, I'm not
going to answer that. But but Jijing

1092
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:13,640
Ping he knows what I would do. I thought that was a smart because

1093
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,640
that is strategic ambiguity. I'm not
going to answer that hypothetical, but he

1094
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,159
knows what I would do, so
it's strategic ambiguity, but with a little

1095
01:31:21,159 --> 01:31:26,000
bit of a threat underneath. I
thought that was I thought that was a

1096
01:31:26,319 --> 01:31:39,159
smart uncharacteristically, so let's see.
Oh my goodness, Scott Robinson said in

1097
01:31:39,199 --> 01:31:42,239
the chat room. Now, this
is in response to what Ronda said about

1098
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,079
Dave Ridley. Sounds like Dick Cavett, which I'd never noticed before. But

1099
01:31:48,199 --> 01:31:53,079
Scott Robinson said, the difference being
with Dick Cavett. Dick Cavatt didn't hate

1100
01:31:53,119 --> 01:31:58,239
America. I don't think Dave Ridley
hates America, but he does want to

1101
01:31:58,359 --> 01:32:01,960
leave America. He wants for newer
listeners who don't know the reason Dave Ridley

1102
01:32:02,039 --> 01:32:05,720
mentioned Nhxit, or maybe I mentioned
it. He didn't want to be a

1103
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:12,680
shy about plugging anything. Today.
Dave Ridley is part of a secessionist movement

1104
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,319
called nh Exit, and they want
to secede from the United States and have

1105
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,680
New Hampshire be its own country.
But I don't think he hates America.

1106
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:25,399
I wouldn't. I wouldn't characterize it
quite that way. Crispy points out US

1107
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:30,159
dollar is strongest dollar than any other
country. That is true. Chrispy also

1108
01:32:30,199 --> 01:32:34,760
points out our nuke submarines are everywhere. That is also true. And I

1109
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:42,960
think that goes to Ron's point.
Joe Friday says, bad guys will get

1110
01:32:43,039 --> 01:32:45,840
weapons. Responsible weapon owners don't need
to secure them, don't leave them in

1111
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:51,359
an unlocked car or a closet.
Absolutely, we only have a little bit

1112
01:32:51,399 --> 01:32:54,640
of time left, but if you'd
like to get in with a quick call

1113
01:32:54,720 --> 01:33:00,199
six three two five six seven six
three two five six seven. I did

1114
01:33:00,279 --> 01:33:05,079
want to go through this timeline just
quickly. This is from CFR dot org,

1115
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,000
This timeline of our relationship with Cuba, which has been the subject today

1116
01:33:13,039 --> 01:33:16,840
on the show. But we're gonna
pick it up at nineteen fifty nine,

1117
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,000
and we're gonna try to get all
the way into the present day with this

1118
01:33:20,119 --> 01:33:26,439
time permitting. So in nineteen fifty
nine there was growing antagonism. Castro nationalizes

1119
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:30,439
all foreign assets in Cuba, hikes
taxes on US imports, and establishes trade

1120
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:34,199
deal with the Soviet Union. So
this is prior to just a couple of

1121
01:33:34,279 --> 01:33:40,039
years prior to the Cuban Missile crisis. So Castro is getting cozy with Cuba

1122
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:45,199
and antagonistic toward the United States.
We're going to kind of speed through this,

1123
01:33:45,279 --> 01:33:47,079
so I'm gonna leave a lot of
this out. But nineteen sixty one,

1124
01:33:47,119 --> 01:33:51,119
of course, the Bay of Pigs
invasion, Executing a plan developed and

1125
01:33:51,159 --> 01:33:57,359
approved by the Eisenhower administration, JFK
deploys a brigade of fourteen hundred CIA sponsored

1126
01:33:57,399 --> 01:34:01,279
Cuban exiles to overthrow Fidel Castro.
The Cuban military defeats a force within three

1127
01:34:01,359 --> 01:34:08,880
days after several mishaps, disadvantage the
invaders and reveal US involvement. Despite the

1128
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:13,840
failed invasion, US administrations over the
next several decades conduct covert operations against Cuba.

1129
01:34:14,039 --> 01:34:18,760
Okay, here we go the main
event, or at least we're getting

1130
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:25,600
to it, Okay, So nineteen
sixty two. In February of sixty two,

1131
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:30,239
the Kennedy administration imposes an embargo on
Cuba that prohibits all trade. Cuba,

1132
01:34:30,279 --> 01:34:33,960
whose economy greatly depended on trade with
the US, loses approximately one hundred

1133
01:34:34,079 --> 01:34:41,279
thirty billion dollars over the next sixty
years according to Cuban government and UN estimates.

1134
01:34:42,039 --> 01:34:46,960
All right here it is the Cuban
missile crisis from October fourteen to October

1135
01:34:47,079 --> 01:34:53,039
twenty eight. This is this is
the big one. This is again to

1136
01:34:53,199 --> 01:34:57,520
me, this is the single most
fascinating moment in American history and also the

1137
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,159
most terrifying. US spy Saddle I
discover the Cuba has allowed the Soviet Union

1138
01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:05,760
to build nuclear missile bases on the
island. In response, Kennedy demands the

1139
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:12,560
Soviet weapons be removed and orders a
naval quarantine of Cuba, igniting a thirteen

1140
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,520
day standoff. By the way,
they were very careful to call it a

1141
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,319
quarantine and not a blockade, even
though it really was a blockade. But

1142
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:25,720
a blockade is considered an act of
war, so they were very careful,

1143
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:30,079
you know, a little semantic game, but they called it a quarantine for

1144
01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:33,560
that reason. With the threat of
nuclear war on the horizon, the US

1145
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:41,119
negotiations with Russia. Negotiates with Russia
via back channels. As the crisis nears

1146
01:35:41,159 --> 01:35:45,159
its third week, Kennedy secretly agrees
to withdraw US nuclear missiles from Turkey within

1147
01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:49,239
a few months if the Soviet Union
withdraws its missiles from Cuba. And again

1148
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:55,439
those missiles were outdated anyways, and
they were already scheduled to be decommissioned.

1149
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:59,800
But Krushchev didn't know that, didn't
need to know that. Kennedy also pledges

1150
01:36:00,119 --> 01:36:02,279
to invade Cuba. Soviet Premier Nikita, by the way, and you know

1151
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:08,600
the reason that he needed to say
that was because of the Bay of Pig.

1152
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,319
Had the Bay of Pigs not happened, maybe there would never have been

1153
01:36:11,319 --> 01:36:16,079
any paranoia regardless. Okay, So
Nikita Khrushchev accepts the deal and announces that

1154
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:20,159
he will order the missiles removed.
The following July, Kennedy prohibits US nationals

1155
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:25,920
from traveling to Cuba. So we're
going to kind of skip forward here.

1156
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:33,159
There was a little bit of diplomacy
here and there, but in March of

1157
01:36:33,279 --> 01:36:43,920
nineteen eighty two, US labels Cuba
a terrorism sponsor nineteen ninety two US titan

1158
01:36:44,039 --> 01:36:53,279
sanctions after Soviet collapse. Um,
I'm skipping ahead because we're so low on

1159
01:36:53,520 --> 01:37:00,800
time. We're gonna go although,
oh remember the nine ten ninety nine,

1160
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:06,960
Wow, that was all the way
back then, the Elian Gonzales controversy,

1161
01:37:08,119 --> 01:37:11,239
I always thought they shouldn't have sent
him back. They took him to Disney

1162
01:37:11,279 --> 01:37:13,920
World. How could they send him
back after taking him to Disney World.

1163
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:21,479
Okay, we're gonna skip all the
way forward to the Obama administration. Okay,

1164
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:26,600
So December of twenty fourteen, A
moved to restore diplomatic ties. Barack

1165
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:30,439
Obama and Raoul Castro announced they will
restore full diplomatic ties following the exchange of

1166
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:35,960
a jail US intelligence officer for the
three remaining Cuban five prisoners. All right,

1167
01:37:36,199 --> 01:37:41,279
So that was the beginning of that. And in twenty fifteen, Cuba

1168
01:37:41,399 --> 01:37:45,680
was removed from the terrorism list in
twenty fifteen July of that year, US

1169
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:50,840
and Cuba reopen embassies. In twenty
sixteen, Obama made in March of twenty

1170
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:57,840
sixteen, Obama makes a historic visit
to Cuba. In November, Fidel Castro

1171
01:37:58,119 --> 01:38:00,800
dies, but Raoul was already running
things because Fidel was in poor health.

1172
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:10,039
And then Trump came in and in
June of twenty seventeen, Trump reinstated travel

1173
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:15,359
and business restrictions, and in September
of twenty seventeen, US cuts embassy staff

1174
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:20,520
in Cuba. This is what I
was talking about at the top of the

1175
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:32,520
show. There was a lot of
work done during the Obama administration to re

1176
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:39,880
establish diplomatic ties and try to normalize
things. And Trump came in and they

1177
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:47,439
dismantled all of that. And then
Biden came in and you know, made

1178
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:53,600
a pretty meager attempt at re establishing
some of it, but really didn't do

1179
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:59,319
much. In May of twenty twenty
two, Biden eased Trump era sanctions.

1180
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:04,640
But that's about it. So the
point of all that, and again,

1181
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,479
it was a long way to get
there, I know, because I started

1182
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,119
this all the way at the beginning
of the show today. But I go

1183
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:14,720
back to my original point, and
if you've hung in with me for the

1184
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:19,640
whole thing, I appreciate it.
But my original point was we're at a

1185
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:27,640
point now where we're worried about Cuba. They're growing relationship with China, and

1186
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:33,399
they're sort of a re establishment of
a strong relationship with Russia. Cuba this

1187
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:39,760
island that is one hundred miles off
the coast of Florida, and this is

1188
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:45,079
strategically very bad for US. And
this is being not covered enough in the

1189
01:39:45,159 --> 01:39:47,600
media in my opinion. It is
getting mainstream media coverage, but not enough.

1190
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:53,399
This is an important moment in this
whole as as as we continue to

1191
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:58,560
have problems with our two greatest adversaries
currently in the world, Russia and China,

1192
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,159
and we've got this island of Cuba, who during the Obama administration made

1193
01:40:05,199 --> 01:40:11,640
a good faith attempt and made some
real progress in terms of re establishing our

1194
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:16,760
relationship with Cuba in a very positive
way. Trump administration come in and came

1195
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:24,279
in and dismantled that. Biden administration
came in, failed to re establish most

1196
01:40:24,319 --> 01:40:29,760
of what Obama had done, and
so there's blame to go around. I

1197
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:34,479
blame both the Trump and the Biden
administrations for the fact that now again without

1198
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:42,800
us having a positive strategic relationship with
Cuba, of course, of course our

1199
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:47,680
adversaries fill that vacuum, and we
didn't even get to a lot of what

1200
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,159
Russia's doing right now. We talked
a lot about China, we didn't even

1201
01:40:51,199 --> 01:40:58,600
get to what Russia's doing with Cuba. And it's I mean, we did

1202
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:00,600
a little bit, but you know, in terms of supplying them oil and

1203
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,560
so forth, because Cuba's having a
rough time right now, kubas having a

1204
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:11,720
very difficult time. They're having their
own energy crisis. Maybe we could have

1205
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:16,720
helped with that and had a good
strategic relationship with that little island that sits

1206
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:21,600
one hundred miles off the coast of
Florida, But no, we let somebody

1207
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:31,920
else do that. And I think
that this is a very dangerous moment and

1208
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,880
it's probably too late for us to
do anything about it now in terms of

1209
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:45,079
Cuba. But none of this had
to happen, as my point, and

1210
01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:48,239
I blame both the current administration and
the previous administration for allowing this to happen.

1211
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:53,880
And it didn't have to be this
way. That's my view of it.

1212
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:58,359
All Right, we are out of
time, don't forget tomorrow. We

1213
01:41:58,399 --> 01:42:00,880
got a big show tomorrow. Of
course, we have Eric Ulter's classic film

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review National Lampoon's Vacation, the original
Vacation film, and then and then in

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the second hour tomorrow we have Dave
Wally from the band Satellite Union skyping in

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from Chicago. Really looking forward to
that. And if you miss any part

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of today's show, it'll be up
in just a little bit at WMH radio

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dot org and on my website Matt
Connerton dot com. And thank you to

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Dave Ridley and Ron of course,
both for calling in and everybody in the

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chat room and easyg if you're listening, I hope everything is okay. He

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might be taking another break. There
was no entertainment report today and I haven't

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heard from him, so hopefully he's
all right. Hopefully all as well.

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But that's gonna do it for us
for now. I'll leave you with a

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little more Satellite Union, a little
more, a little more of a preview

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for tomorrow's show. Really looking forward
to that. And I'll talk to y'all

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a little bit later. Oh and
if you're listening live on Thursday, coming

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up next immediately after this show,
Through the Stage Door, hosted by the

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Great Rob die On. All right, I'm out of here, by everybody,